Tigran Hamasyan - 37 Newlyweds (Official Video)

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Dear Friends,
About a 100 years ago Armenia was at the edge of existence when the Ottoman Army was already inside Eastern Armenia after massacring and deporting Armenians of Kars, Mush, Sassoun, Zeytoun, Karin (Erzrum), Van, the list goes on…. In 1918 when the Ottoman Army was reaching Aparan region and it was clear that this was a battle for survival of a nation (Bash Aparan battle), 37 newlywed couples from 37 surrounding villages put on black tunics, marked their foreheads red, got on white horses and rode into the battlefield to fight the Ottoman army.
About a 100 years later, Armenia is again on the brink of its existence because of dictatorial regimes in Azerbaijan and Turkey, whose governments are doing everything to take over Armenian lands and cleanse these territories from Armenian identity.
It is incredible that the release of this video is coinciding with the current aggression on Artsakh and Armenia.

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This song is dedicated to 37 Armenian newlywed couples from 37 villages who, in 1918, put on black tunics, marked their foreheads red, got on their white horses, and rode into the battle to fight the Ottoman army.

I have taken the lyrics from two different Armenian folk songs and composed a new melody for them.

Սարիցը պաղ քամին փչեց,
Վառվում եմ, վառվում,
Վառ կրակ դառնում։
Ամպել ա կամար, կամար,
Ես կմեռնիմ քեզի համար։

The cold wind blew from the mountain,
I am burning, burning,
Turning into a bright fire.
It has turned clouded as if arch after arch,
I will die for you.

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Tigran Hamasyan - piano, voice, synthesisers, effects
Back up vocals by Beth and Steve Wood
Recorded and mixed by Steve Wood at Benaji Studio
Mastered by Nate Wood
Executive Producers: Tigran Hamasyan and Robert Hurwitz
Composed and written by Tigran Hamasyan
Produced by Tigran Hamasyan

Starring:
Tigran Hamasyan
Elena Hamasyan
Aika Vallega
Ahnry Aryan

Director: Hayk Matevosyan
Cinematographer: Justin Richards
Production Design - Ani Terzian
Costume Design - Ani Hakobyan

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289 comments

1
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:18:52pm

Fuque Trump for creating this cadre of wingnuts. Anyone here still on Terrorbook should report this group to get them removed.

Grand Island Public Schools’ mask policy questioned at meeting (Grand Island, Nebr. Independent)

Grand Island Public Schools’ mask policy was front and center during the Board of Education meeting Thursday night.

Parents expressed concerns about the district’s policy mandating that all students and staff members wear masks and the need to adjust the policy. The parents are a part of the “No Masks GI” Facebook group. At least one parent outside the group supported the district’s mandatory mask policy.

Shree Arends said she hoped the board could “have an open mind and heart to hear our concerns for our children and community.” She asked the board to consider giving parents a choice on whether their students wear masks at school.

“We live in America. We deserve a choice to wear a mask or not wear a mask,” Arends said.

Shorter wingnut: We live in America. We deserve to infect your children and kill the teachers.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:20:15pm

re: #301 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is Darrel Issa advising him?

Sigh…fucking Issa is actually leading in his campaign to get back into congress.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:21:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:23:35pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More in that article says parents were also mad that visiting fans from other schools’ teams were banned by the Kearney school board.

The board said the reason opposing team fans were banned was because they received numerous death threats against the students and staff over mask requirements. The school board said they banned opposing fans to protect students and staff.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:24:56pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

Sigh…fucking Issa is actually leading in his campaign to get back into congress.

Republikkkans out number Democrats in this district by over 40k. It’s an uphill battle. The Democratic party probably should have tried talking a veteran into running here. It’s probably the only way you will ever turn all these old white pearl-clutching dudebros out here away from the mystic ᚱ rune.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:34:14pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

Car Thief is running for Hunter the Lesser’s old seat. Car Thief is not from the East County San Diego area, but he saw an opportunity in the only safely Republican district left.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:43:24pm
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Belafon  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:43:45pm

re: #305 sagehen

The John Lewis Voting Rights Act is also high priority.

Yes, but Roberts won’t hesitate to overturn it.

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teleskiguy  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:52:03pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:52:18pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fuque Trump for creating this cadre of wingnuts. Anyone here still on Terrorbook should report this group to get them removed.

Grand Island Public Schools’ mask policy questioned at meeting (Grand Island, Nebr. Independent)

Shorter wingnut: We live in America. We deserve to infect your children and kill the teachers.

The people who will scream bloody murder over the idea of having LGBT teachers in classrooms because “They’ll brainwash our kids!!!” and actually try to argue that just the presence of LGBT teachers can influence kids…think that measures meant to prevent the spread of an actual disease that has killed 200-300K Americans should be put to a vote.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:53:12pm

Random recognition of karma points today goes to Sagehen, with 63,533 as of this post.

Take a richly deserved bow. LGF karma points are backed with the full faith and credit of Mr. Johnson.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:54:26pm

538 give Car Thief an 88 (how appropriate) out of a 100 chances to win California’s 50th district:

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:55:17pm

re: #6 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Car Thief is running for Hunter the Lesser’s old seat. Car Thief is not from the East County San Diego area, but he saw an opportunity in the only safely Republican district left.

I know, I’m in the district just south of his old one and north of his new one.
And how weird is it to have two Arabs running for congress in that district? Progress, I guess? At least there’s less overt racism in the GOP campaign this time.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 13, 2020 • 10:57:51pm

Shrapnel in orbit would be bad.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:02:30pm

Interesting thing is that 538 is predicting that the House numbers will not change. Well, 1 additional seat is leaning Democrat.

The reconfiguration from the census will not change this much. A few more urban-centric congressional districts scattered around the west and south may lean Democratic but not guaranteed (save if Oregon adds one House seat, or Washington state.) Texas will probably add a seat but given how the Republicans gerrymander that state I expect it to be designed to be Republican.

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:04:05pm

Sad reality that just hit me earlier: Assuming that Trump doesn’t abandon ship on the promise of Mike granting him a pardon or tries to actually pardon himself and roll the dice with the USSC, then next year will see one of the most truly cynical acts of political theater in our lifetimes: Media pundits arguing that Biden should grant Donny a general pardon in order for the country to “heal.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:05:23pm

re: #14 Dread Pirate Ron

Folks have been asking for the Sweet Meteor of Death.

Be careful what you wish for.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:06:46pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

Sigh…fucking Issa is actually leading in his campaign to get back into congress.

Most recent polling shows them nearly neck and neck. I put whoositz-the-democrat (can’t remember all their names) on my “donate” list. Right next to TJ Cox.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:08:04pm

re: #18 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Je$u$ tells the voters of that district to vote Republican.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:08:57pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:11:55pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

That’s just the beginning.

Every pundit will strive for fame and fortune, and the need to drive ratings will keep TV a hopping with faux Democrat scandals, some nefarious object in Harris’ past, etc.

The big kicker will not be to pardon Trump but that Biden must compromise with the Trumpers and GOP minority (hopefully) in the Senate.

Let’s face it, Trump is old, not that healthy, and will face state (NY) legal charges beyond a Presidential pardon.

The real problem for Biden is that the GOP and Trump have set up the US for a great economic crash. If we have one worse than 2008 (possible), then the Trumpers will come back strong for the next demagogue that comes by in 2024.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:12:57pm

A “get out the vote” song in Spanish aimed at Puerto Ricans on the mainland for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (2:50)

¡CHANKLETA!

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Targetpractice  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:13:30pm

538 has my district remaining blue for another 2 years, projecting an 83% +/- chance that Luria will win another term. I can’t tell whether that’s due to the projected turnout on Election Day…or the fact that people haven’t forgotten that the guy running for the seat (Scott Taylor) got caught in ‘18 running an operation out of his office to get a third party candidate on the ballot in the hopes of skimming just enough votes off the final total to squeak by.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:13:35pm

re: #19 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Je$u$ tells the voters of that district to vote Republican.

They don’t always listen — Harris won in that district.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:14:51pm

re: #24 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

They don’t always listen — Harris won in that district.

Are you referencing the primary?

Or her Senate election? Remember, there were only Democrats on the Senate ballot.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:16:39pm

re: #25 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are you referencing the primary?

Or her Senate election? Remember, there were only Democrats on the Senate ballot.

Okay— they went Obama in 2008.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:17:33pm

re: #21 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That’s just the beginning.

Every pundit will strive for fame and fortune, and the need to drive ratings will keep TV a hopping with faux Democrat scandals, some nefarious object in Harris’ past, etc.

The big kicker will not be to pardon Trump but that Biden must compromise with the Trumpers and GOP minority (hopefully) in the Senate.

Let’s face it, Trump is old, not that healthy, and will face state (NY) legal charges beyond a Presidential pardon.

The real problem for Biden is that the GOP and Trump have set up the US for a great economic crash. If we have one worse than 2008 (possible), then the Trumpers will come back strong for the next demagogue that comes by in 2024.

So, business as usual for the Democrats then. When was the last time the Republicans didn’t leave a flaming Dumpster fire of a budget and economy when they were in charge?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:21:42pm

Trending on Twitter, thanks to MeidasTouch: #TrumpGraveDancer

Also trending: #ThanksPlannedParenthood

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:25:59pm

re: #18 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Most recent polling shows them nearly neck and neck. I put whoositz-the-democrat (can’t remember all their names) on my “donate” list. Right next to TJ Cox.

I live in that district and see no evidence of this “neck and neck” in my part of it. Last poll I saw was over a month ago and it was 46/45 in favor of Issa and I think that’s not remotely realistic. People are fucking with poll takers.

I hope I’m wrong and surprised.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:26:38pm

re: #25 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Okay— they went Obama in 2008.

Afraid not. In the 52nd district (this is not Car Thief’s old district by the coast, but inland) was easily won by McCain/Palin.

Like I said, Je$u$ tells the good folk of the 52nd for whom to vote.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:29:04pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Afraid not. In the 52nd district (this is not Car Thief’s old district by the coast, but inland) was easily won by McCain/Palin.

Like I said, Je$u$ tells the good folk of the 52nd for whom to vote.

It’s the 50th. The 52nd is Scott Peters’ (D) district.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:30:40pm

re: #31 Jack Burton

It’s the 50th. The 52nd is Scott Peter’s (D) district.

Today.

But in 2008 it was different.

The post 2010 census moved things around.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:40:20pm

re: #32 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Today.

But in 2008 it was different.

The post 2010 census moved things around.

Yeah but the physical boundaries did not change in any major way so that that I remember. CA 50 of today and CA 52 from before 2013 are more or less the same districts.

What is CA 49 and CA 50 today *were* the 2 safe Republican districts left in San Diego County until 2018, then CA 49 flipped and Issa was thrown out. So now he moved a few miles inland to try again here in South Jesusland, CA.

CA 50 is DEEP RED. I don’t see this changing before the 2030 census changes go into effect (assuming there is one).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:41:53pm

The Tories deep-sixed a vote to keep UK food standards for imports after 1 Jan 2021, so people are now afraid that US BigAg is heading their way (and it is):

Protest held over import of sub-standard produce

Member of the Thirsk and Malton Green Party, along with local farmers, delivered a letter to the Old Malton office of MP Kevin Hollinrake on Saturday.

Barbara Hickman, on behalf of the group, said: “We are rightly proud that here in the UK we have a reputation for having some of the best animal welfare, environmental and food safety standards in the world.

“If we allowed in mass-produced chlorinated chicken and meat from cattle and pigs raised in terrible conditions and pumped full of antibiotics and artificial hormones, we would throw all that away.

[…]

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:42:25pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:42:44pm

re: #33 Jack Burton

Yes, but for those who are going back looking at data from 2008 have to remember to look at the proper district as enumerated at that time.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:46:11pm

Speaking of looking back, I may have made a mistake. Obama may have just slightly won the old Hunter district. It was a close vote.

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Jack Burton  Oct 13, 2020 • 11:55:28pm

re: #37 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Speaking of looking back, I may have made a mistake. Obama may have just slightly won the old Hunter district. It was a close vote.

This is what I see for 2008 in the then 52nd

McCain 53.4% - 45.0%

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:00:32am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:10:31am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:12:50am

re: #39 Dread Pirate Ron

McConnell rewarding Maine’s senator for her fealty?

It’s too late, polls appear to indicate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:15:32am

Maybe I should enter this contest.

Top Ramen offering $10,000 for ‘Chief Noodle Officer’ (Goes to UPI)

Oct. 13 (UPI) — The makers of Top Ramen announced they are seeking a “Chief Noodle Officer” to get paid $10,000 to help develop and test new ramen noodle soup recipes.

Top Ramen manufacturer Nissin announced it is seeking a Chief Noodle Officer with a “passion for noodles” to help test out new Top Ramen recipes for the company.

Interested candidates are being instructed to post photos and recipes of their own Top Ramen creations to social media, and the winner will be selected by celebrity judge Melissa King, a recent winner of Top Chef: All-Stars L.A.

The winner will receive $10,000, the chance for a one-on-one “mentorship” with Nissin CEO Mike Price and a 50-year supply of various Top Ramen products.

Submissions are being accepted through Oct. 30.

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Cheechako  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:23:10am

re: #39 Dread Pirate Ron

Looks like local TV will be daylight till dark orange-man commercials.

We get all our TV from the Internet so we won’t have to suffer from local TV.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:37:29am

Youtube being a social media site of course offers suggestions based on one’s interests, so among many different topics Youtube throws up orchid videos for me.

I wasn’t expecting this though, a luxury private garden in Jamaica:

The Doctor’s visit: A fabulous Vanda garden in Mandeville

That’s quite a garden, I suspect the owner has to be one of the richest people on the island, given Jamaica is not known for being a wealthy nation.

Note: Vandas are not terrestrial orchids. Though they are shown in beds, they are in pots (with gravel), and then sunk into gravel beds. The gravel just anchors them so they don’t fall down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:40:54am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maybe I should enter this contest.

Top Ramen offering $10,000 for ‘Chief Noodle Officer’ (Goes to UPI)

I coulda won this by default as a college student: 7 for a buck, 8 when on sale meant that they were literally a daily staple (usually with some eggs, cabbage or tofu added) in my diet.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:43:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:45:29am

re: #44 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That’s quite a garden, I suspect the owner has to be one of the richest people on the island, given Jamaica is not known for being a wealthy nation.

Lots of “poor” nations have a small but wealthy upper class, it is one of the defining features of a failed economy.

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John Hughes  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:55:46am

re: #40 Dread Pirate Ron

“Ok, so I lied”.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:57:55am

It’s one of those massed-strings type of nights:

Ray Charles - Ruby

..

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:57:55am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Kids these days! ❤️❤️❤️

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:10:00am

re: #49 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s one of those massed-strings type of nights:

Video

..

beats the heck outta the Kaiser Chiefs version…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:18:53am

Surprised to know that he’s still around… given how many have died from that era. But Dion did start out quite young in his career.

Also, evidence that white folk used to be able to clap on 2:

DION ~ RUNAROUND SUE

..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:20:53am

Speaking of that, Dion writes in the description on that video (it is his channel):

RUNAROUND SUE. I recorded Runaround Sue with “The Del-Satins” and black musicians from the Apollo theater, Buddy Lucas on Sax, Sticks Evans on drums, Panama Francis on percussion,Teacho Wilshire on piano, Milt Hinton on bass, and Mickey “Guitar” Baker. ~ When Hollywood filmed this rendition they use all white actors playing musicians behind me, knowing the film wouldn’t get played in the South at that time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:26:11am

British ballistic missile sub.
Members of crew violated isolation directives and went out on the town, road-tripped to Cocoa Beach.
I bet the governors of Georgia & Florida wouldn’t agree:

“… even though Georgia and neighbouring Florida are among the worst ­coronavirus-hit states in America. …”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:27:59am

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

British ballistic missile sub.
Members of crew violated isolation directives and went out on the town, road-tripped to Cocoa Beach.
I bet the governors of Georgia & Florida wouldn’t agree:

In hono(u)r:

UK Subs-Warhead

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:32:58am

A three week family gathering (from five household) this summer.
Not feeling a lot of sympathy right now.

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:43:27am

re: #44 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, that Vanda garden is impressive! They certainly do look healthy and happy.

As you note about them, all the vandas I had ever seen were suspended in wooden frames in greenhouses.

I didn’t see any irrigation equipment so I assume that they are watered by hand. That is a lot of time. But the general cleanliness of the garden implies to me that there is a full time professional gardener. As you point out, that set up is expensive.

I didn’t see any netting, so I do wonder why there are not a lot of birds feeding on the koi in the pond.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:46:35am

re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

A three week family gathering (from five household) this summer.
Not feeling a lot of sympathy right now.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:46:38am

re: #57 ckkatz

The owner probably hires labor cheap.

The koi look rather large. I’m not sure there are birds large enough on the island to hunt them. And storks probably don’t want to have to deal with close human quarters.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:49:56am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 14, 2020 • 1:59:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:07:14am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Ron

BREAKING:

Roasting the Trump admin’s now-rescinded exclusion of New Yorkers from the DHS trusted travelers program, a federal judge vacated that decision.

He also mulls possible penalties for “misleading, if not false, representations, in some instances under oath.”

please explain background, this is all rather muddy to me…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:07:43am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Ron

Damn. I was hoping it was using a spit over a white hot flame.

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:08:47am

Apropos to nothing in particular, I suddenly realized that I have been listening to this song for early 30 years:

Daniela Mercury - Batuque

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:10:43am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

please explain background, this is all rather muddy to me…

The trusted traveler program allowed people traveling out of the country easy access back in. No long lines at customs, just scan your card and pick up your luggage.

So revoking that for NYers meant 1 plus hours standing in a line at customs when you return from a trip.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:17:15am

re: #65 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The trusted traveler program allowed people traveling out of the country easy access back in. No long lines at customs, just scan your card and pick up your luggage.

So revoking that for NYers meant 1 plus hours standing in a line at customs when you return from a trip.

Trump seems to forget that there are still Republicans living in New York and California.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:24:12am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump seems to forget that there are still Republicans living in New York and California.

He doesn’t care. Kushner literally decided to let New Yorkers die because its not a red state.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:26:14am

re: #67 NO SMOCKING GUN!

He doesn’t care. Kushner literally decided to let New Yorkers die because its not a red state.

and that is what amazes me. like reviving the principle guilt by association

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:27:16am

re: #61 Dread Pirate Ron

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There are so many people who need to be indicted next year, starting with Trump and his entire family, Tiffany and Barron excluded.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:28:31am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump seems to forget that there are still Republicans living in New York and California.

It was petty af. Pure trump stupidity.

As for Republicans in NY/CA, fewer and fewer every day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:28:44am

re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!

There are so many people who need to be indicted next year, starting with Trump and his entire family, Tiffany and Barron excluded.

In olden times, the entire spawn would be interred along with the father…

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Targetpractice  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:29:15am

re: #21 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That’s just the beginning.

Every pundit will strive for fame and fortune, and the need to drive ratings will keep TV a hopping with faux Democrat scandals, some nefarious object in Harris’ past, etc.

The big kicker will not be to pardon Trump but that Biden must compromise with the Trumpers and GOP minority (hopefully) in the Senate.

Let’s face it, Trump is old, not that healthy, and will face state (NY) legal charges beyond a Presidential pardon.

The real problem for Biden is that the GOP and Trump have set up the US for a great economic crash. If we have one worse than 2008 (possible), then the Trumpers will come back strong for the next demagogue that comes by in 2024.

Trump’s gonna be a bigger millstone for the party to carry than any in recent memory. He’ll be only the second president in the past 30 years to fail to win a second term. If the polls hold true between now and November, he won’t even have a thin-margin loss that he can spin as due to “fraud,” his loss will be a resounding one that will likely cause the party several Senate seats and perhaps the majority of the chamber. The worst part of it all? Barring a last-minute resignation in exchange for a pardon by “President” Pence,” they’re gonna have to carry this failed presidency to term.

And as much as they’ll want to, they can’t direct the angry mob towards him while screaming “HE’S THE ONE YOU WANT!” as they duck out the back. They took so much pride in keeping him from being removed from office so they can’t treat him like they did Nixon, and there’s no one policy that he enacted against their wishes like Bush Sr’s tax increases that they can pin the blame squarely on him. Every step of the way, they were willing accomplices and fought with all their might to keep him from facing the consequences of his actions.

My personal belief? They’re gonna try and make the promise of a pardon part of any negotiations for CV-19 relief/debt ceiling increase. They’ll float a trial balloon sometime in the weeks immediately after the election, acknowledging what everybody knows: Donny’s biggest fear about losing is facing federal charges for his acts both in and out of office. They’ll say it’s a way to ensure a peaceful transition: Trump gets a pardon, Biden looks magnanimous, and the country “moves forward.” Unspoken will be how it also allows them to push public anger onto Biden for Trump skipping out on the consequences of his actions.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:29:56am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In olden times, the entire spawn would be buried along with the father…

If only.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:30:46am

re: #72 Targetpractice

My personal belief? They’re gonna try and make the promise of a pardon part of any negotiations for CV-19 relief/debt ceiling increase. They’ll float a trial balloon sometime in the weeks immediately after the election, acknowledging what everybody knows: Donny’s biggest fear about losing is facing federal charges for his acts both in and out of office. They’ll say it’s a way to ensure a peaceful transition: Trump gets a pardon, Biden looks magnanimous, and the country “moves forward.” Unspoken will be how it also allows them to push public anger onto Biden for Trump skipping out on the consequences of his actions.

I can really see them already laying the groundwork for negotiations along those lines.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:31:40am

re: #72 Targetpractice

A pardon won’t get Donnie et al out of hot water in NY State.

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:32:21am

And another song from long ago:

Filhos do Tempo - Didá Banda Feminina

The picture is a famous one of the slave Anastacia who is venerated by many in Brazil.

There are a lot of conflicting stories about her and her life. But the main theme that goes through them is that although a slave she is a powerful and independent woman. This frightened her masters who forced her to wear a muzzling facemask.
en.wikipedia.org

Some background on the group, Didá Banda Feminina:

When Carnival season comes around, as it does every February, it’s the percussion groups and their electrifying rhythms that dominate Salvador’s streets over the course of the one-week event. They parade up and down and around the city, producing various beats from samba and axé to samba-reggae, a Caribbean-Afro Brazilian genre that originates from Bahia. Of all these genres, one instrument is always present - the drum. Drumming traditions are at the heart of Salvador’s music and was always an instrument played by men.

Banda Didá is proving that traditions can and do indeed change. Formed in 1993, the band is the first all-women Afro-Brazilian percussion band (known as a bloco-afro) in Brazil and are bringing visibility to black women in Brazil. Since their success on the Salvador music and Carnival scene, several other all-female percussion groups have been inspired to follow in their footsteps and bring more female-produced music to Bahia.

theculturetrip.com

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:33:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:34:34am

re: #77 dangerman

In any normal world, we would just accept that the president has completely cracked, and even the remote possibility of leaving him in office, much less re-electing him, would be unacceptable

This is the New Media Reality, which Trump helped usher in, but not without the active and willing assistance of mainstream and social media.

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Targetpractice  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:37:54am

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A pardon won’t get Donnie et al out of hot water in NY State.

They’ll burn that bridge when they get to it. While Biden and/or Congressional Dems couldn’t order NYS to make the state/local charges “go away,” it’s possible that they could hinder or even kneecap such by revoking federal support of the investigations. Or apply pressure to accept guilty pleas in exchange for light sentences that don’t include jail time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:41:38am

re: #79 Targetpractice

I fully expect that that the bastid will walk. Might cost him his assets and empire, and anyone associated with him will take a bath, but Trump will have his career made as a spokesman for the disenfranchised, genocide-endangered suburban/rural White Race of Amerika.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:44:42am

re: #79 Targetpractice

I really doubt Biden would do that. There is little reason for anyone, even Republicans, to support Trump when he no longer is in office.

I do expect that the talking-heads will be the chorus for Republicans whining about how Biden won’t compromise with them.

This is why this election is so important in being a mandate. Enough Senate seats have to flip to really scare the GOP into thinking they are looking at a future that the Republicans haven’t faced since FDR.

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:45:51am

trump has committed some real serious heinous crimes (imo)

Nixon did too but no one died, his was just an attack on the democratic process

Biden will not sign on to letting everything Trump has done just pass. certainly not before any of it is even investigated seriously.

and there will be wayyyy to much pressure from the left to allow it.

he could pardon Trump anytime for anythingf

for everything
…after a thorough vetting of the facts and with cooperation.

it doesnt have to be blanket and now

there is too much death, pain, graft and unknown uknowns

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:47:21am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:47:22am

re: #79 Targetpractice

They’ll burn that bridge when they get to it. While Biden and/or Congressional Dems couldn’t order NYS to make the state/local charges “go away,” it’s possible that they could hinder or even kneecap such by revoking federal support of the investigations. Or apply pressure to accept guilty pleas in exchange for light sentences that don’t include jail time.

I can’t see that happening under any circumstance. None.

While Biden is a go along get along guy, upwards of 300k Americans are dead (unofficial, based on regression analysis). Biden will not let that go.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:49:32am

re: #82 dangerman

trump has committed some real serious heinous crimes (imo)

Nixon did too but no one died, his was just an attack on the democratic process

Biden will not sign on to letting everything Trump has done just pass. certainly not before any of it is even investigated seriously.

and there will be wayyyy to much pressure from the left to allow it.

he could pardon Trump anytime for anythingf

for everything
…after a thorough vetting of the facts and with cooperation.

it doesnt have to be blanket and now

there is too much death, pain, graft and unknown uknowns

Cambodians would likely dispute that “noone died” due to Nixon’s crimes.

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:50:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:50:57am

re: #83 dangerman

I’m shaken to learn that Judge Barrett served on the Bd of Trustees of a group of private schools that barred children from attending their schools simply because their parents were unmarried. In the year 2017.

These are the “family values” that the GOP embraces: not valuing families enough to actually help them raise and educate their children, but working to impose a certain social and ethical model onto them.

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:53:14am

re: #81 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I really doubt Biden would do that. There is little reason for anyone, even Republicans, to support Trump when he no longer is in office.

I do expect that the talking-heads will be the chorus for Republicans whining about how Biden won’t compromise with them.

This is why this election is so important in being a mandate. Enough Senate seats have to flip to really scare the GOP into thinking they are looking at a future that the Republicans haven’t faced since FDR.

compromise is we need a covid bill and we’re arguing over how much money and what provisions

we want a pardon therefore you must work with us on it is not compromise

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Targetpractice  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:53:57am

I wanna take a sec to point out that I said that Repubs would push for a pardon, I never said that Biden would go along with it. And the reason they’re going to pursue such is because they want to make the man disappear in the worst way, but at the same time when the dust settles the MAGAts will still be there. This isn’t some horror film where the death of the Big Bad makes all his little minions scatter or dissolve into dust. The reality that he will have cost them most of their remaining “moderates,” leaving most of the TPers there to drag the party further to the right will only make matters worse for them in the short term.

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:54:52am

re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I can’t see that happening under any circumstance. None.

While Biden is a go along get along guy, upwards of 300k Americans are dead (unofficial, based on regression analysis). Biden will not let that go.

there’s four years of crimes here.
were somewhat numb to the first two

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:56:01am

re: #85 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Cambodians would likely dispute that “noone died” due to Nixon’s crimes.

strictly Watergate thinking on my part
true it was a blanket pardon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:56:11am

re: #89 Targetpractice

The reason that none of the other GOP primary candidates would attack Trump in 2016 is that they all believed he would flame out and hoped to pick up his support.

Now they are struck with an unruly base that wants only Trump (or someone worse) and has no use for moderation or compromise.

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:57:09am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I agree. My ‘thought’ for the evening…

It seems to me that Trump’s public power is due to his ability to create ‘entertaining’ content for the media. By entertaining I mean that attracts lots of viewers. (A lot of them out of fear and anger.) And Trump is very good at this.

The media love this for the revenue and power it brings them. They prioritized his content over all others in 2015-2016. Traditional campaigns using traditional methods were tied by norms, such as respect and truth while Trump, who respects nothing, did anything and everything that created more media for himself. This handicapped the ‘normal’ candidates, although I hesitate to use ‘normal’ to describe much about Cruz and Graham.

This is one reason why Clinton got buried in the media. This is what I think critics mean when they say she ran a ‘poor’ campaign.

The problem is of course, that this content-creation goal is in place of rational governance. Because the goals of the two objectives are very different. It seems to me that this is why Trump is portrayed as both brilliant and an idiot. He is just playing a very different game with very different goals.

Without rational governance, millions of citizens lives and well-being are put at risk. A lot of the media have not yet figured out that they are in as much danger as the rest of us.

Meanwhile, the entire circle around Trump are grifters, criminals, and sociopaths. Normal organizations try to filter these folks out in favor of the competent. Trump has sought them out because they are weak and compromised. This results in a weak and compromised government.

Further most of the competent people have filtered themselves out because they favor goals of competent governance.

We need to vote out the current administration before they do further damage and fatally weaken our country and its institutions. And then we need to inventory the damage, fix it and encode the lessons into law and into our institutions.

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 2:59:19am

re: #93 ckkatz

I agree. My ‘thought’ for the evening…

It seems to me that Trump’s public power is due to his ability to create ‘entertaining’ content for the media. By entertaining I mean that attracts lots of viewers. (A lot of them out of fear and anger.) And Trump is very good at this.

The media love this for the revenue and power it brings them. They prioritized his content over all others in 2015-2016. Traditional campaigns using traditional methods were tied by norms, such as respect and truth while Trump, who respects nothing, did anything and everything that created more media for himself. This handicapped the ‘normal’ candidates, although I hesitate to use ‘normal’ to describe much about Cruz and Graham.

This is one reason why Clinton got buried in the media. This is what I think critics mean when they say she ran a ‘poor’ campaign.

The problem is of course, that this content-creation goal is in place of rational governance. Because the goals of the two objectives are very different. It seems to me that this is why Trump is portrayed as both brilliant and an idiot. He is just playing a very different game with very different goals.

Without rational governance, millions of citizens lives and well-being are put at risk. A lot of the media have not yet figured out that they are in as much danger as the rest of us.

Meanwhile, the entire circle around Trump are grifters, criminals, and sociopaths. Normal organizations try to filter these folks out in favor of the competent. Trump has sought them out because they are weak and compromised. This results in a weak and compromised government.

Further most of the competent people have filtered themselves out because they favor goals of competent governance.

We need to vote out the current administration before they do further damage and fatally weaken our country and its institutions. And then we need to inventory the damage, fix it and encode the lessons into law and into our institutions.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:00:01am

Misdirected DM or nah?

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:00:58am

totally ot

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:03:28am

re: #95 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Misdirected DM or nah?

[Embedded content]

dear donny,

were dying here…
give a speech like they taught you in fifth grade public speaking class.

or did you have someone go to that class for you?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:03:57am

re: #93 ckkatz

I agree. My ‘thought’ for the evening…

It seems to me that Trump’s public power is due to his ability to create ‘entertaining’ content for the media. By entertaining I mean that attracts lots of viewers. (A lot of them out of fear and anger.) And Trump is very good at this.

The media love this for the revenue and power it brings them. They prioritized his content over all others in 2015-2016. Traditional campaigns using traditional methods were tied by norms, such as respect and truth while Trump, who respects nothing, did anything and everything that created more media for himself…

That is what I have been saying: he gives the media a 24/7 political crime/scandal reality TV show: starting out with an outrageous tweet, followed by scandalous revelations about his family or associates, topped off with totally over-the-top statements at a rally or press conference, all of which is ratings gold.

Why should they want to see him replaced by someone more competent but less exciting?

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:13:51am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is what I have been saying: he gives the media a 24/7 political crime/scandal reality TV show: starting out with an outrageous tweet, followed by scandalous revelations about his family or associates, topped off with totally over-the-top statements at a rally or press conference, all of which is ratings gold.

Why should they want to see him replaced by someone more competent but less exciting?

I guess because some may actually treasure their country and a future for themselves, their families and loved ones.

Fortunately us voters do have some free will, occasionally a few have wisdom, and even more occasionally, a small number will exercise the two. So not all will be listening to the media and obeying the media’s desires.

The US also has an advantage in that being a large, and (still) wealthy country, it has a diverse media and information industry. That will hopefully help. Many small and poorer countries lack that.

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:19:05am

Yes, you did make exactly that point. And with clarity. You got there first too. (Dangnabbit!)

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is what I have been saying: he gives the media a 24/7 political crime/scandal reality TV show: starting out with an outrageous tweet, followed by scandalous revelations about his family or associates, topped off with totally over-the-top statements at a rally or press conference, all of which is ratings gold.

Why should they want to see him replaced by someone more competent but less exciting?

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:33:21am

Okay, it’s too quiet. Time to post a picture my brother sent me:

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ckkatz  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:37:10am

“The thread is dead Jim. You get the tricorder. I’ll get the wallet.”

Off to some errands. bbl

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:11:51am

It is that time. Feel like one of the last living cells in a dying body…Just got a deadline job in, will chime in later

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Decatur Deb  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:16:08am

The pharmacy cards Trump is using to bribe Olds with their own money won’t quite work. These people are just not very ept.

Trump’s Drug-Discount Cards Expected to Reach Medicare Recipients After Election
wsj.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:22:28am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

The pharmacy cards Trump is using to bribe Olds with their own money won’t quite work. These people are just not very ept.

Trump’s Drug-Discount Cards Expected to Reach Medicare Recipients After Election
wsj.com

Did they shoot themselves in the foot over the Postal Service?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:30:52am
Police in Milan say they have arrested a 39-year-old Italian woman, who has worked for Cardinal Angelo Becciu, a senior Vatican official who was demoted last month over embezzlement claims.

Cecilia Marogna says she was paid €500,000 ($587,000; £454,000) by Cardinal Becciu.

Ms Marogna was arrested after an Interpol warrant was issued at the Holy See’s request, according to reports.

Both Ms Marogna and Cardinal Becciu have denied any wrongdoing.

In interviews with Italian media in recent days, Ms Marogna confirmed that she had been paid €500,000 by Cardinal Becciu through a company she operated in Slovenia. She said she received the money to provide “parallel diplomacy” to help missionaries in conflict areas.

A senior Vatican source told Reuters news agency that Ms Marogna was suspected of “embezzlement and aggravated misappropriation in complicity with others”.

The cardinal allegedly authorised the payments to Ms Marogna while serving as number two in the Vatican’s Secretariat of State, which manages the Church’s donations.

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The cardinal was forced out last month by Pope Francis.

Vatican: Italian woman arrested in fraud scandal (BBC)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:32:56am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more)

The cardinal was forced out last month by Pope Francis.

Vatican: Italian woman arrested in fraud scandal (BBC)

I refuse to take this organization seriously until it reforms itself from the ground up.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:34:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:35:07am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I refuse to take this organization seriously until it reforms itself from the ground up.

“Things were just so much easier when we ran Europe and enslaved the New World”—random cardinal.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:38:57am
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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:39:21am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

The pharmacy cards Trump is using to bribe Olds with their own money won’t quite work. These people are just not very ept

+1 for that

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:40:18am

re: #108 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

The pandemic really revealed the lie of the so-called “pro-life” movement. Every life matters, until they’re born, then it’s everyone for themselves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:40:40am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Things were just so much easier when we ran Europe and enslaved the New World”—random cardinal.

and when cardinals and bishops could keep mistresses openly and priests could bugger all the altar boys that their hears desired…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:43:13am

re: #111 dangerman

+1 for that

grammarphobia.com

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Axolotl  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:45:29am
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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:50:10am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

grammarphobia.com

color me gruntled

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Decatur Deb  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:53:30am

It’s been 16 days since Wife’s flight from Denver, and we are relaxing our fogey quarantine a bit—mostly for minor medical stuff. (I’m getting my flu shot—a decision that weighs the risk of flu against the risk of my doc’s waiting room.) Wife is also early voting using our absentee/walk-in loophole.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:54:00am

re: #115 Axolotl

I hate all that “drop a like” bullshit. What’s the point? RT makes some sense. I don’t get the Like stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:54:00am

re: #116 dangerman

color me gruntled

how very chalant

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Decatur Deb  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:54:03am

re: #116 dangerman

color me gruntled

Stay ane.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:56:29am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Stay ane.

I have been whelmed

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 14, 2020 • 4:59:56am

re: #70 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It was petty af. Pure trump stupidity.

As for Republicans in NY/CA, fewer and fewer every day.

But, as ever, the law of unintended consequences applies.

It wasn’t just rich international travelers in NYC and LA who used those trusted travel programs. One of them was the NEXUS card, designed to speed crossings at land borders with Canada for frequent crossers. It was a boost to the economy in places like Detroit/Windsor, Buffalo/Niagara… and up in New York’s North Country, where commerce to and from eastern Ontario and Quebec is vital.

But guess what? Between shutting them out of that program for no good reason and then ineptly handling the pandemic in a way that’s kept the border with Canada sealed shut probably into next year, Trump has seriously fucked with the North Country economy (and western NY too.)

And gerrymandering being what it is, the Republicans who still dominate the rural areas are neatly packed into a few House districts that have already been swingy the last few cycles and could be brutal this year.

The one I’m watching most avidly is Elise Stefanik in the North Country. She leeched herself so tightly to that orange ass that she has to own all his failures, especially the border. It *should* doom her and cost the GOP that House seat.

But the border regions also take in John Katko’s Syracuse-based seat, which swings back and forth with very tight margins even in normal years. And in Niagara Falls, the seat that used to belong to criminal Chris Collins (who just went to prison, finally) is super-vulnerable.

All three seats have great Democrats challenging for them: Tedra Cobb against Stefanik, Dana Balter against Katko, Nate McMurray in the old Collins seat. They’d be a nice trio of pickups.

And the icing on the cake is that redistricting will take away at least one upstate NY seat. If we put Democrats in all of those (plus the two safe D seats in Rochester and Buffalo), it will make it easy for the Democrats in Albany (at or near a supermajority) to craft new lines in 2022 that will keep those seats safe but send the Southern Tier Republican, Tom Reed, home to Corning.

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Axolotl  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:01:33am

re: #72 Targetpractice

My personal belief? They’re gonna try and make the promise of a pardon part of any negotiations for CV-19 relief/debt ceiling increase. They’ll float a trial balloon sometime in the weeks immediately after the election, acknowledging what everybody knows: Donny’s biggest fear about losing is facing federal charges for his acts both in and out of office. They’ll say it’s a way to ensure a peaceful transition: Trump gets a pardon, Biden looks magnanimous, and the country “moves forward.” Unspoken will be how it also allows them to push public anger onto Biden for Trump skipping out on the consequences of his actions.

Trump won’t need permission to pardon himself. Why would that be part of the deal?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:01:54am

re: #10 Targetpractice

The people who will scream bloody murder over the idea of having LGBT teachers in classrooms because “They’ll brainwash our kids!!!” and actually try to argue that just the presence of LGBT teachers can influence kids…think that measures meant to prevent the spread of an actual disease that has killed 200-300K Americans should be put to a vote.

And I bet most all of the ones bitching would lose their shit it I sat down next to them somewhere and lit up a smoke because the second hand smoke will kill them eventually maybe.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:11:49am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:13:11am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[Embedded content]

That’ll wake you up in the morning.

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Axolotl  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:13:27am

re: #118 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I hate all that “drop a like” bullshit. What’s the point? RT makes some sense. I don’t get the Like stuff.

I don’t understand any of that twitter stuff. The information he provided made my day.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:16:07am

One absentee ballot in the Middle East, signed sealed and delivered! :)

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:18:33am

re: #79 Targetpractice

They’ll burn that bridge when they get to it. While Biden and/or Congressional Dems couldn’t order NYS to make the state/local charges “go away,” it’s possible that they could hinder or even kneecap such by revoking federal support of the investigations. Or apply pressure to accept guilty pleas in exchange for light sentences that don’t include jail time.

Pelosi just needs to keep saying “we have a bill right here, and in January we’ll pass it without your help.”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:21:34am

Texas and my Rep……… Fuck.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:23:33am

re: #130 Dave In Austin

How are you doing? Feeling ok?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:25:25am

re: #131 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thx for asking. It all came out good.
This getting older is a bunch of crap.

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jeffreyw  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:41:23am

Gabe

Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:47:58am

Joe and Mika had Illinois Congressional candidate Jim Oberweis on this morning. I thought to myself, “didn’t my sister and her friends boycott Oberweis Dairy because it supported far-right causes and is anti-immigrant?” Yep, same asshole. Thanks, Mika.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:50:17am

Pittsburgh-area mail carrier under investigation is apparent QAnon conspiracy theorist (Pittsburgh City Paper)

According to screenshots of a Facebook page apparently belonging to Troesch, the mail carrier has been trafficking in conspiracy theories related to QAnon for at least the last several months. QAnon is a baseless pro-Trump conspiracy theory that falsely believes elites and Democrats are running an underground child prostitution ring and eating babies. Belief in this conspiracy theory has been growing over the years, and many QAnon supporters have been seen at Trump rallies.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:55:24am

re: #97 dangerman

dear donny,

were dying here…
give a speech like they taught you in fifth grade public speaking class.

or did you have someone go to that class for you?

Can somebody start a twitter trend? #FatDonnyDMs

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 5:57:27am

Missoulian now endorsing Tranel for PSC (The Missoulian)

We didn’t know she was a wingnut, honest!

Readers and business leaders contacted the Missoulian after its initial endorsement appeared Sunday morning offering their opinions and asking the Missoulian to review its endorsement, which the Missoulian did.

The Missoulian determined that it failed to give proper weight to Fielder’s connection with groups such the Coalition of Western Property Owners and the Bundy family that led an armed takeover of a wildlife refuge in 2016. She also recently helped spread baseless rumors about Antifa supposedly traveling to Missoula to foment violence at Black Lives Matter protests, which encouraged militia-style groups to attend those protests.

The Missoulian has staunchly supported Black Lives Matter peaceful protests and opposed the activities of the Bundy family and other groups posing a threat to our government. Fielder also actively supports transferring management of federal lands to the state government, which the Missoulian has long opposed.

The Missoulian erred in its initial endorsement and is rescinding it. In short, we blew it.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:01:47am

So this is the punishment Trump gets for skipping the next debate:

Fuck that noise.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:03:37am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:04:02am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

So this is the punishment Trump gets for skipping the next debate:

Fuck that noise.

BaLaNcE. Biden is doing a town hall.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:07:19am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:07:24am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

BaLaNcE. Biden is doing a town hall.

Seems like there should be a format where they can appear from different locations on the same screen. //

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A Mom Anon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:08:39am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Meh. Let him make an ass out of himself on national prime time TV. He can barely speak for two minutes coherently. His vocabulary is limited too, so every question about what he’s going to do to MAGA will be “we’re looking at that very strongly” or “we have a plan we’ll reveal after the election” or other crap. This is timed to run against Joe and syphon off viewers. Then the next day he’ll tell everyone how bigly his ratings are over Joe’s.

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mmmirele  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:10:55am

The Twitter machine is all atwitter over an obvious hit job on the Biden campaign from that paragon of journalistic probity, the New York Post. Here is our host.

I’m not going to post about the obvious hit job, but it does appear to be coordinated, with Maggie Haberman and a few other of the blithering idiots picking it up.

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makeitstop  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:11:57am

This made me laugh out loud last night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:12:51am

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

Seems like there should be a format where they can appear from different locations on the same screen. //

Trump rejected that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:17:42am
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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:18:13am

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

Seems like there should be a format where they can appear from different locations on the same screen. //

well we’ve got PIP over here so…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:19:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:19:52am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

BUSTED: Fake Black Trump ‘supporters’ — with tens of thousands of followers — purged on social media

There goes his 95% of the black vote…

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A Mom Anon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:20:58am

re: #144 mmmirele

This will stick just as well as the prior attempts. No one cares except the 25-30 percent of dumbasses who wouldn’t vote for Joe anyway. It’s all they have, and it’s not working. Anyone undecided by this point is either full of shit and doing it for attention or in a fucking coma.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:22:04am

re: #151 A Mom Anon

This will stick just as well as the prior attempts. No one cares except the 25-30 percent of dumbasses who wouldn’t vote for Joe anyway. It’s all they have, and it’s not working. Anyone undecided by this point is either full of shit and doing it for attention or in a fucking coma.

“undecideds” are people who cannot bring themselves to vote for Trump but don’t want to admit that they are going to vote for Biden…

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:22:18am

re: #144 mmmirele

Someone needs to describe it, so I know what the bs is my coworkers will be spewing.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:23:45am
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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:24:52am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:25:26am

re: #153 Belafon

Photos of a Delaware federal court subpoena given to The Post show that both the computer and hard drive were seized by the FBI in December, after the shop’s owner says he alerted the feds to their existence.
But before turning over the gear, the shop owner says he made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello.

Steve Bannon, former adviser to President Trump, told The Post about the existence of the hard drive in late September and Giuliani provided The Post with a copy of it on Sunday.

nypost.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:25:31am

re: #151 A Mom Anon

This will stick just as well as the prior attempts. No one cares except the 25-30 percent of dumbasses who wouldn’t vote for Joe anyway. It’s all they have, and it’s not working. Anyone undecided by this point is either full of shit and doing it for attention or in a fucking coma.

I was truly undecided when they handed me the ballot (Obama/HRC) for the 2008 primary election. Went with Obama because I figured that would infinitesmally piss off more Alabama Republicans.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:25:39am

Ha:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:29:46am

re: #151 A Mom Anon

This will stick just as well as the prior attempts. No one cares except the 25-30 percent of dumbasses who wouldn’t vote for Joe anyway. It’s all they have, and it’s not working. Anyone undecided by this point is either full of shit and doing it for attention or in a fucking coma.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:35:00am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:36:13am

Maga Haberman is trying to backpedal after the furious backlash.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:37:50am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maga Haberman is trying to backpedal after the furious backlash.

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I thought I had remembered that story.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:37:54am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maga Haberman is trying to backpedal after the furious backlash.

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Pretty intense backlash, not that that has mattered too much in the past.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:42:46am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maga Haberman is trying to backpedal after the furious backlash.

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So Trump’s October Surprise is more of an October Nothingburger? They can’t even do that right.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:43:59am

re: #164 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So Trump’s October Surprise is more of an October Nothingburger? They can’t even do that right.

With mail balloting being such a large part of the election this year, they really needed an August surprise.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:47:10am

Damn. I had no idea this was coming. It’s streaming on Crackle.

Robert The Bruce - Official Trailer

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:47:17am

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

With mail balloting being such a large part of the election this year, they really needed an August surprise.

The number and variety of ways in which this administration has proven that it is the most incompetent - certainly in American history, and possibly even in world history - is astounding.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:48:10am
Retired Navy Captain Rick Holdcroft has attacked State Sen. Carol Blood as a “radical Democrat” who is “too extreme for Nebraska” in a series of campaign fliers in the lead-up to the November election.

Blood this week poked fun at the ads, suggesting they be used as kindling for family bonfires, to remove gum from the bottom of a shoe or as a scoop for animal droppings.

The exchanges show how differently Blood and Holdcroft are running their campaigns for the District 3 seat in the Nebraska Legislature.

Holdcroft and Republican groups have sent out several fliers in recent weeks. Some claim Blood voted to reduce jail time for “violent convicts” and “pedophiles” and that she has “let our police down” with her votes in the Legislature.

Blood, a Democrat who touts her commitment to focusing on bipartisan cooperation, said the fliers contain half-truths and lies and go “beyond the pale” of how campaigning should be conducted. She said she doesn’t engage in “negative” campaigning.

LOL

In a video posted on Facebook Monday (1:44), Blood offered other uses for the fliers against her, at one point tossing a Frisbee with Holdcroft’s face taped to it for a dog to fetch.

omaha.com

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:48:59am

re: #166 GlutenFreeJesus

Damn. I had no idea this was coming. It’s streaming on Crackle.

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They got the guy who played Robert the Bruce in Braveheart to play Robert the Bruce.

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Jay C  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:52:46am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maga Haberman is trying to backpedal after the furious backlash.

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Geeez, I feel like I had to wash my hands after clicking on the NYPost, but - SRSLY? THIS is their BFD “smoking gun” “reveal”? Not only bullshit, but OLD bullshit at that? With Rudy Giuliani-taint all over it?
Outside of the usual cheapjack opportunity to use “Hunter Biden” “Burisma” and “Emails” in their header, what’s really “news” here?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:56:00am

As the Panhandle moves into “high risk,” Scottsbluff and Gering Public schools will continue with in-person classes.

The overwhelming majority of cases here are in Scott’s Bluff County, along with all the deaths but one.

Elections for school boards have consequences. Whether the President or a school board, the Republican genocide will continue.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:56:37am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maga Haberman is trying to backpedal after the furious backlash.

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makeitstop  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:58:14am

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

Pretty intense backlash, not that that has mattered too much in the past.

It’s a good sign. The pushback was pretty much immediate and pretty wide spread.

Like I keep saying - the old tricks are not working as well as they used to.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 6:59:55am

re: #173 makeitstop

It’s a good sign. The pushback was pretty much immediate and pretty wide spread.

Like I keep saying - the old tricks are not working as well as they used to.

You got Rudy out there butt dialing and spilling wine all over himself….

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:00:18am

The New York Post found one elderly woman who still loves Trump!

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:01:18am

re: #173 makeitstop

It’s a good sign. The pushback was pretty much immediate and pretty wide spread.

Like I keep saying - the old tricks are not working as well as they used to.

They are running into a buzz saw of their own making. Four years ago, they convinced people to overlook scandals and just focus on whether you hated the other person. Well, guess what? People hate Trump.

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makeitstop  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:01:26am

re: #174 Barefoot Grin

You got Rudy out there butt dialing and spilling wine all over himself….

Putting Rudy in charge of the October Surprise was their first mistake.

Then again, you go to war with the army you have…

This one will be as big a fail as Obamagate was yesterday.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:01:32am

Thread. Yeah, this is bullshit.

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Nojay UK  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:02:54am

re: #166 GlutenFreeJesus

Damn. I had no idea this was coming. It’s streaming on Crackle.

Oh dear. That trailer, ummm… I’d guess this depiction of an alternate-universe history was created by Americans. Oh dear.

The Bruce in our reality was, well, not much like that. At all. And what’s with all that snow and helicopter Heiland vistas? Robert the Bruce was of good Norman stock (de Brus) and like most sensible folks of that time he was a civilised Lowlander and not a hairy-arsed teuchter. Oh dear.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:03:22am

One of my son’s friends put up a tik tok video of him stepping in dog shit on his front porch. When the camera pans down to the porch, it’s yet another GA GOP mailer with Trump stupid face and that dumbass thumbs up. Hee. Hee.

This was a young man who wasn’t going to vote because “it doesn’t matter, they’re all the same”. Until we had a long chat and I helped him get registered to vote. He in turn got a few of his buddies to vote. Winning!

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:03:30am

Trump’s dancing partner at his next Superspreader Spectacle!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:05:45am

re: #175 🌹UOJB!

The New York Post found one elderly woman who still loves Trump!

GAA! That should be hidden!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:06:23am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

GAA! That should be hidden!

Sounds like somebody is looking for the brain bleach.

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steve_davis  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:09:14am

re: #108 Dave In Austin

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Personally I view all this as the heartwarming story of a dog that has been chasing a car for almost 50 years and has finally caught it. The climax is thrilling. The resolution is normally a real tear-jerker.

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dangerman  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:09:15am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:09:40am

Los Angeles Times reporter:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:15:43am

Polling porn, three tweet thread.

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William Lewis  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:26:13am

re: #169 Belafon

They got the guy who played Robert the Bruce in Braveheart to play Robert the Bruce.

So is it as great a historical farce as Braveheart was?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:27:26am

re: #169 Belafon

They got the guy who played Robert the Bruce in Braveheart to play Robert the Bruce.

I do hope they take some time to go into the background and nuance of what made The Bruce so Brucy

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:28:37am

re: #151 A Mom Anon

This will stick just as well as the prior attempts. No one cares except the 25-30 percent of dumbasses who wouldn’t vote for Joe anyway. It’s all they have, and it’s not working. Anyone undecided by this point is either full of shit and doing it for attention or in a fucking coma.

So the big October Giuliani surprise is NEPOTISM BAD? What could the downside be?

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:31:27am
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Jay C  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:32:32am

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thread. Yeah, this is bullshit.

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OMG: the bones of the story read like the treatment for an episode of some low-budget TV procedural.
Anonymous guy (who may or may not be Hunter Biden) leaves a damaged computer (with conveniently indicative sticker) in a shop for repair: never picks it up; “suspicious” tech looks it over, sees “incriminating” shit on it, so hands it over to the FBI. While meanwhile copying the HD, and giving a copy to Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer.
Who then sits on it til three weeks before the election.

Even without Rudy’s participation, the credibility factor here is so low as to be pushing Planck’s Limit. No wonder the Post went with it….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:32:59am

re: #190 jaunte

So the big October Giuliani surprise is NEPOTISM BAD? What could the downside be?

The nepotism angle is there to prompt the “There no difference between the two” angle among undecideds.

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:33:46am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How big is that bloc at this point?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:34:36am

re: #195 jaunte

How big is that bloc at this point?

Negligible, but that is the only reason to make an issue of family favoritism.

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:35:08am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t rule out incompetence!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:35:33am

re: #193 Jay C

OMG: the bones of the story read like the treatment for an episode of some low-budget TV procedural.
Anonymous guy (who may or may not be Hunter Biden) leaves a damaged computer (with conveniently indicative sticker) in a shop for repair: never picks it up; “suspicious” tech looks it over, sees “incriminating” shit on it, so hands it over to the FBI. While meanwhile copying the HD, and giving a copy to Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer.
Who then sits on it til three weeks before the election.

Even without Rudy’s participation, the credibility factor here is so low as to be pushing Planck’s Limit. No wonder the Post went with it….

The Post is a Murdoch rag. Another good thread on this hit piece, which I have no doubt Trump will be blathering about on Twitter, at his rallies, and during his Townhall on NBC.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:40:08am

re: #198 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:42:29am

Or should be.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:43:57am

re: #193 Jay C

OMG: the bones of the story read like the treatment for an episode of some low-budget TV procedural.
Anonymous guy (who may or may not be Hunter Biden) leaves a damaged computer (with conveniently indicative sticker) in a shop for repair: never picks it up; “suspicious” tech looks it over, sees “incriminating” shit on it, so hands it over to the FBI. While meanwhile copying the HD, and giving a copy to Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer.
Who then sits on it til three weeks before the election.

Even without Rudy’s participation, the credibility factor here is so low as to be pushing Planck’s Limit. No wonder the Post went with it….

Don’t forget Hunter’s doppelganger smoking crack and making amateur porn vidoes.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:44:22am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

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Magats are going to eat it up. But its not going to have the effect the Comey letter did, because its utterly lacking in credibility.

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:45:54am

Expand the Court.

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:46:16am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:46:56am

re: #202 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Magats are going to eat it up. But its not going to have the effect the Comey letter did, because its utterly lacking in credibility.

And because unlike “butter emails”, we’ve already seen this dog and pony show. If they had something fresh and new on tap, something with some shock value, I’d be worried. This is just an absolute bore.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:48:21am

This is Project Veritas level fuckery.

Surprisingly, its not Wohl level fuckery…but only because nobody left their fly open at the news conference…

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steve_davis  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:49:44am

re: #172 🌹UOJB!

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other things that are sketchy. both in the main piece, and the Devine opinion piece, Joe Biden supposedly flew to Ukraine “to fire the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.” The prosecutor was fired for not investigating Burisma. To say otherwise at this point just makes one a goddamned liar.

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:50:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:51:04am

If I worked in a newsroom I would would not trust anything that came to me by way of Rudy Giuliani. Corroborate the shit out of it, or it doesn’t run. Easy.

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:52:32am

The National Enquirer Hillary’s Alien Baby model of news delivery.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:54:05am

re: #203 jaunte

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Expand the Court.

“So, what you’re saying, Judge Barrett, is that you’re only purpose on the court is to keep the seat warm. If the president doesn’t like how you ruled, he can ignore you, am I right?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:54:52am

re: #211 Belafon

“So, what you’re saying, Judge Barrett, is that you’re only purpose on the court is to keep the seat warm. If the president doesn’t like how you ruled, he can ignore you, am I right?”

Her only purpose is to overturn ACA and Roe v. Wade

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jaunte  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:55:06am

re: #211 Belafon

“I am here to apply the law strictly to designated out groups.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:55:30am

re: #203 jaunte

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Expand the Court.

Paul Krugman thinks that SCOTUS may not strike down the ACA, which would put intense pressure on Congressional Democrats to expand the Court, because Charles Koch has another target. He wants SCOTUS to end Chevron deference and return to the Lochner era of a century ago, when SCOTUS routinely struck down laws regulating economic activity. His vision is of corporate America being freed of regulations protecting consumers, the health, safety and right to organize of workers, and especially environmental regulations.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:56:13am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

If I worked in a newsroom I would would not trust anything that came to me by way of Rudy Giuliani. Corroborate the shit out of it, or it doesn’t run. Easy.

Maggie has a vested interest in trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 7:56:38am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

If I worked in a newsroom I would would not trust anything that came to me by way of Rudy Giuliani. Corroborate the shit out of it, or it doesn’t run. Easy.

Unless you work for Rupert Murdoch.

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steve_davis  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:00:05am

re: #191 jaunte

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“The penis pump: It really is my bag, baby!”

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:04:36am

Throw the book at this CENSORED!

Amy Cooper Made Another 911 Call on Black Birder—and It Was Worse Than the First

thedailybeast.com

Amy Cooper, the white woman who called police on a Black man after he asked her to leash her dog in Central Park, called 911 twice during the Memorial Day incident, falsely stating in a previously unreported call that he “tried to assault her,” prosecutors revealed Wednesday.

Cooper, 41, was charged in July with a misdemeanor count of falsely reporting an incident in the third degree, the Manhattan District Attorney’s office said. In a 911 call captured in a viral video, she allegedly falsely reported that Christian Cooper, 57, was threatening her life. The charge is punishable by up to a year in jail.

However, Cyrus R. Vance, the Manhattan district attorney, said in a statement Wednesday that Cooper allegedly “engaged in racist criminal conduct” when she made a second 911 call in which she “falsely accused a Black man of trying to assault her.”

LOCK HER UP!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:07:51am

re: #218 🌹UOJB!

Throw the book at this CENSORED!

Amy Cooper Made Another 911 Call on Black Birder—and It Was Worse Than the First

thedailybeast.com

Amy Cooper, the white woman who called police on a Black man after he asked her to leash her dog in Central Park, called 911 twice during the Memorial Day incident, falsely stating in a previously unreported call that he “tried to assault her,” prosecutors revealed Wednesday.

Cooper, 41, was charged in July with a misdemeanor count of falsely reporting an incident in the third degree, the Manhattan District Attorney’s office said. In a 911 call captured in a viral video, she allegedly falsely reported that Christian Cooper, 57, was threatening her life. The charge is punishable by up to a year in jail.

However, Cyrus R. Vance, the Manhattan district attorney, said in a statement Wednesday that Cooper allegedly “engaged in racist criminal conduct” when she made a second 911 call in which she “falsely accused a Black man of trying to assault her.”

LOCK HER UP!

Its people like this who undermine the credibility of women reporting actual assaults. Her conduct is utterly reprehensible; she attempted to commit murder by cop, and she should go to prison.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:10:47am

re: #41 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

McConnell rewarding Maine’s senator for her fealty?

It’s too late, polls appear to indicate.

Americans have the memory of a gnat. Nothing is too late. Given limited resources, McConnell is timing everything perfectly

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:14:45am

re: #133 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:15:37am

Um yeah that picture of “Hunter Biden asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth” is totes legit, I’ll bet Donny Jr. posed for it.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:16:17am

re: #201 Shropshire Slasher

Don’t forget Hunter’s doppelganger smoking crack and making amateur porn vidoes.

Maybe they can get the videos and contrast them against the first lady’s porn vids and see which has better production value.

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jeffreyw  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:16:20am

Biscuits and Chicken Gravy

Testing 1 2 3..

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:16:37am

re: #220 Hecuba’s daughter

Americans have the memory of a gnat. Nothing is too late. Given limited resources, McConnell is timing everything perfectly

Like Rudy’s timing?

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:17:48am
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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:18:48am

re: #226 (((Archangel1)))

Hunter’s not running for president, Jake.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:20:07am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

So this is the punishment Trump gets for skipping the next debate:

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Fuck that noise.

Everybody who can should turn on Biden’s town hall and skip DTs. The ratings difference will hit him where he lives.

(I wonder who they’ll get to sit for 90 minutes in a room with a maskless covid-19 super-spreader. Will probably be a pretty wacky audience.)

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Jay C  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:22:36am

In case anybody missed it: that story from yesterday about that unexploded WWII “Tallboy” bomb they found at the bottom of a shipping canal in Poland?

The problem has been resolved: “BOOM!!!”
(via BBC: w. video)

It was described as having gone off “while being defused”, though the report also said that nobody had been injured. Since Tallboys loaded 5,200 lbs (2400kg) of explosive, that “BOOM!” was pretty big: either it was being worked remotely, or those Polish divers are a really sturdy lot…

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:23:03am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:24:17am

re: #230 (((Archangel1)))

The GOOD old days of segregation?

Bloody hell. These people are just letting it all hang out now.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:26:23am

re: #230 (((Archangel1)))

That ought to be a Harrison ad in about 30 minutes.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:27:04am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:28:12am

re: #226 (((Archangel1)))

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:35:44am
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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:37:44am

re: #232 Belafon

That ought to be a Harrison ad in about 30 minutes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:41:55am
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John Hughes  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:46:20am

Guardian headline: “Dutch government backs euthanasia for under-12s

What, all of them? I know they can be annoying, but isn’t that a bit, how can I put it, extreme?

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Jay C  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:46:28am

re: #220 Hecuba’s daughter

Americans have the memory of a gnat. Nothing is too late. Given limited resources, McConnell is timing everything perfectly

I dunno: Susan Collins’ polling is definitely NOT doing well against her (D) opponent in ME. It’s unsure (IMO) that even a vigorous stand against ACB (which Collins is unlikely to do in any case) would be enough to save her.

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Teukka  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:47:01am

re: #101 ckkatz

Okay, it’s too quiet. Time to post a picture my brother sent me:

[Embedded content]

Reminds me of this one… This little girl asked for Frozen gifts this Christmas… Check out the comments.. XD

Imgur

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:50:32am

THREAD: The NY Post story is completely bogus (but you already know that)

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:53:32am

re: #238 John Hughes

Guardian headline: “Dutch government backs euthanasia for under-12s

What, all of them? I know they can be annoying, but isn’t that a bit, how can I put it, extreme?

Well the Brick Testament reminds you when The Big G said it was OK to stone your kids…

thebricktestament.com

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Teukka  Oct 14, 2020 • 8:56:43am

re: #221 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Western good morning!

[Embedded content]

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:03:08am

re: #201 Shropshire Slasher

Don’t forget Hunter’s doppelganger smoking crack and making amateur porn vidoes.

Devastating to the Hunter Biden campaign, if true.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:04:10am

re: #201 Shropshire Slasher

Don’t forget Hunter’s doppelganger smoking crack and making amateur porn vidoes.

Don Jr. in a mask?

/

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:04:17am

Just thinking of my Dad. He LOVED this song and would sing it while he was driving.

Peggy Lee-It’s A Good Day

Hope this cheers folks up!

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plansbandc  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:06:48am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My only disappoint with all of twitter hating Maggs is I didn’t come up with MAGA Haberman.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:07:42am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Don Jr. in a mask?

/

First there was Deepthroat, now there is deepfake.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:07:52am

Teri Kanefield replued to my tweet; love it!

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:10:53am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:13:51am

re: #250 (((Archangel1)))

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:16:39am

re: #250 (((Archangel1)))

[Embedded content]

It took a minute for me to realize what the relevance of that quote was to that tweet, then I saw the tweet to which you were replying and I was like, “Oh SNAP.”

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b.d.  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:23:48am

re: #250 (((Archangel1)))

[Embedded content]

How unfair!

They should totally boycott Facebook.

I need to see some videos of people deleting Facebook and throwing their PC out the window.

C’mon wingnuts! I know you got it in ya!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:27:34am
255
Kilroy was here  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:28:39am
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Nojay UK  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:32:17am

re: #229 Jay C

The Polish EOD team were apparently using an underwater robot to deflagrate the charge in the bomb i.e. burn it out of the casing. They weren’t trying to “defuse” it since the original fuze had failed in the first place. Most bomb disposal operations on old bombs involve extracting the explosive charge by deflagration or steam injection since the fuzes are usually rusting lumps of scrap after the passage of sufficient time. They did take the precaution of evacuating residents from the area around the canal before attempting this operation. Wise.

The explosive charge in a Tallboy bomb was about 2.2 tonnes of Torpex, a compound with a high brisance. It was originally concocted for torpedo warheads as the name indicates. It used aluminium powder as an accelerant (just like modern rocket boosters) and unusually it was melted and cast into the Tallboy and Grand Slam bomb casings for maximum explosive energy and mechanical stability on impact.

I’m still a little surprised this bomb’s charge high-ordered during the attempt at deflagration. It’s possible the charge’s chemistry may have degraded a little over the 75 years or so since it was poured and become unstable.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:35:14am

re: #256 Nojay UK

Come for the politics and music, stay for the ancient underwater bomb defusing info….

I learn something new here almost everyday. The only thing I don’t like is that y’all make me feel like an idiot sometimes…ya damned smart people with all your smarty things.

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:40:15am

re: #257 A Mom Anon

Come for the politics and music, stay for the ancient underwater bomb defusing info….

I learn something new here almost everyday. The only thing I don’t like is that y’all make me feel like an idiot sometimes…ya damned smart people with all your smarty things.

Knowledge of a good crowd.

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b.d.  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:41:49am

Shocked! Shocked, I say!

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Teukka  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:43:48am

:snickers:

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:44:12am

Ron Howard is doing an adaptation of Hillbilly Elegy. I think I’ll pass.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:45:24am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:50:58am

re: #256 Nojay UK

The Polish EOD team were apparently using an underwater robot to deflagrate the charge in the bomb i.e. burn it out of the casing. They weren’t trying to “defuse” it since the original fuze had failed in the first place. Most bomb disposal operations on old bombs involve extracting the explosive charge by deflagration or steam injection since the fuzes are usually rusting lumps of scrap after the passage of sufficient time. They did take the precaution of evacuating residents from the area around the canal before attempting this operation. Wise.

The explosive charge in a Tallboy bomb was about 2.2 tonnes of Torpex, a compound with a high brisance. It was originally concocted for torpedo warheads as the name indicates. It used aluminium powder as an accelerant (just like modern rocket boosters) and unusually it was melted and cast into the Tallboy and Grand Slam bomb casings for maximum explosive energy and mechanical stability on impact.

I’m still a little surprised this bomb’s charge high-ordered during the attempt at deflagration. It’s possible the charge’s chemistry may have degraded a little over the 75 years or so since it was poured and become unstable.

Trivia note: The bomb bay dimensions of the B-52 were originally set by a requirement that it be able to carry the Grand Slam bomb internally and not, as often assumed, by the dimensions of early atomic bombs, which were much smaller.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:51:42am

re: #261 Barefoot Grin

Ron Howard is doing an adaptation of Hillbilly Elegy. I think I’ll pass.

Egad. I started to read that book once and found the first part fascinating. Because I recall that the “hillbillies” on our block in Gary, Indiana were a separate ethnicity: nominally white, but not like the other Central/Eastern European or more WASPy families on our block.

But I lost interest after his description of the great Appalachian Exodus.

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Jay C  Oct 14, 2020 • 9:59:31am

re: #256 Nojay UK

Thanks for the background (and what Mom Anon said at #257!).

While I realize that no ordnance ever has had a 0% fail rate, after reading the wiki on the Tallboys, I’m also surprised that none of its multiple detonators worked to set off the charge, given that these bombs were virtually individually hand-crafted, and machined to very exacting standards: (old Barnes Wallis really knew his craft) - I would have thought the detonators would have been quality-controlled to exacting standards.

Interesting fact about the Tallboys: they were so hard-to-make and expensive, that aircrews using them on bombing raids were forbidden to jettison them if they were unable to drop: they were considered more valuable to try to return and re-use than the aircraft (and crews)
jeopardized thereby.

266
Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:00:47am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Egad. I started to read that book once and found the first part fascinating. Because I recall that the “hillbillies” on our block in Gary, Indiana were a separate ethnicity: nominally white, but not white like the other Central/Eastern European or more WASPy families on our block.

But I lost interest after his description of the great Appalachian Exodus.

I tried to get through it, too. Maybe I should try again. If I think about seeing the movie, I’d need to give the book another try. I got this sense of victim blaming.

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makeitstop  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:01:04am

And…scene. Biden campaign comes with receipts.

The alleged meeting never took place, per official schedules.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:02:32am

re: #267 makeitstop

And…scene. Biden campaign comes with receipts.

[Embedded content]

The alleged meeting never took place, per official schedules.

Now do Jared and Ivanka.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:03:45am

re: #265 Jay C

Thanks for the background (and what Mom Anon said at #257!)

While I realize that no ordnance ever has had a 0% fail rate, after reading the wiki on the Tallboys, I’m also surprised that none of its multiple detonators worked to set off the charge, given that these bombs were virtually individually hand-crafted, and machined to very exacting standards: (old Barnes Wallis really knew his craft) I would have thought the detatonators would have been quality-controlled to exacting standards.

They probably were, but even the most exacting standard has more than a 0% fail rate.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:05:44am

I will approach every case with an open wine when my liquor outlet starts doing “Baker’s Dozens.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:06:20am

re: #269 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They probably were, but even the most exacting standard has more than a 0% fail rate.

Lots of things can happen to a piece of ordinance between production and actual delivery…and do not forget that an awful lot of the people involved in handling it were insufficiently trained and often rather clueless.

272
Shropshire Slasher  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:08:06am

re: #265 Jay C

Thanks for the background (and what Mom Anon said at #257!)

While I realize that no ordnance ever has had a 0% fail rate, after reading the wiki on the Tallboys, I’m also surprised that none of its multiple detonators worked to set off the charge, given that these bombs were virtually individually hand-crafted, and machined to very exacting standards: (old Barnes Wallis really knew his craft) I would have thought the detatonators would have been quality-controlled to exacting standards.

Interesting fact about the Tallboys: they were so hard-to-make and expensive, that aircrews using them on bombing raids were forbidden to jettison them if they were unable to drop: they were considered more valuable to try to return and re-use than the aircraft (and crews)
jeopardized thereby.

Picture from the raid where the ordnance was found: (note the different sized craters)

en.wikipedia.org

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b.d.  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:15:34am
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Nojay UK  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:17:38am

re: #263 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Trivia note: The bomb bay dimensions of the B-52 were originally set by a requirement that it be able to carry the Grand Slam bomb internally and not, as often assumed, by the dimensions of early atomic bombs, which were much smaller.

The B-series Lancaster bombers of 617 Squadron (“The Dambusters”) that flew the Tallboy and later Grand Slam missions were heavily modified — the “earthquake” bombs were carried in conformal configuration, half inside and half outside the fuselage and all the defensive weapons and some of the armour was removed to save weight.

This version of the Lancaster was a candidate to carry out the nuclear bomb attacks on Japan in 1945 as the Silverplate nuclear-capable versions of the B-29 had a difficult development. The original B-29s had two bomb bays, one in front and one behind the main wing spar that ran through the fuselage. They needed a single large bomb bay to handle the Little Boy and Fat Man bombs but the wing spar was in the way and it needed to be relocated to make space. Conversely the Lancaster had limited range so experiments in in-flight refuelling were carried out but in the end the Silverplates were ready in time for their nuclear missions.

There’s a good summary of this secret history in a Youtube by the excellent Mark Felton.

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ericblair  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:18:29am

The WPost has the tapes on what went down at one of the wingnut conventions, which is exactly what we think went down and includes obvious campaign finance violations if anyone gave a shit. This is above the fold, on my webpage anyways.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:19:48am

FLORIDA MAN STRIKES AGAIN!

cbs12.com

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Belafon  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:32:20am
Microsoft on Monday said it had seized via federal court order Internet Protocol (IP) addresses that had been directing activity on computers infected with Trickbot malware. Microsoft warned that Trickbot has infected a number of public government agencies, which could suffer worse damage if the operators encrypt files or install programs that interfere with voter registration records or the display and public disclosure of election results. Microsoft worked with companies including security firm ESET to disassemble Trickbot installations and trace them to their command IP addresses, and invoked copyright law to secure the court order. Said Microsoft’s Tom Burt, “Ransomware is one of the largest threats to the upcoming election.”

reuters.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:33:30am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Egad. I started to read that book once and found the first part fascinating. Because I recall that the “hillbillies” on our block in Gary, Indiana were a separate ethnicity: nominally white, but not white like the other Central/Eastern European or more WASPy families on our block.

But I lost interest after his description of the great Appalachian Exodus.

I thought it was a load of crap right off the bat when he said Middletown, Ohio, was part of Appalachia.

279
ericblair  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:34:18am

Good thread bringing the receipts.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:37:44am

re: #274 Nojay UK

Fun semi-random fact that I hadn’t known until a few years ago, only tangentially related: The heavily modified B-25 Mitchell medium bombers used in Jimmy Doolittle’s famous raid on Tokyo were flown from Eglin AFB in Florida to Wold-Chamberlain Field, now Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, to be modified by joint crews of the USAAF and Northwest Airlines.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:39:48am

re: #277 Belafon

Microsoft on Monday said it had seized via federal court order Internet Protocol (IP) addresses that had been directing activity on computers infected with Trickbot malware.

I wonder if any of them will track back to Mar-a-lago?

Half /

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:42:19am

re: #280 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fun semi-random fact that I hadn’t known until a few years ago, only tangentially related: The heavily modified B-25 Mitchell medium bombers used in Jimmy Doolittle’s famous raid on Tokyo were flown from Eglin AFB in Florida to Wold-Chamberlain Field, now Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, to be modified by joint crews of the USAAF and Northwest Airlines.

The book Target Tokyo by James Scott is really good, and describes the build up and all of the modifications the planes went through.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:45:57am

re: #166 GlutenFreeJesus

What, no Mel Gibson attempting to portray a Scotsman extremly poorly?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:47:28am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:54:24am

re: #283 Colère Tueur de Lapin

What, no Mel Gibson attempting to portray a Scotsman extremly poorly?

Not this one. But Robert The Bruce is continuing that legacy.

But Anna Hutchison makes up for it…

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sagehen  Oct 14, 2020 • 10:59:40am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Jon Lovitz as Tommy Flanagan

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 14, 2020 • 11:55:26am

re: #257 A Mom Anon

Come for the politics and music, stay for the ancient underwater bomb defusing info….

I learn something new here almost everyday. The only thing I don’t like is that y’all make me feel like an idiot sometimes…ya damned smart people with all your smarty things.

Wants me to go find and watch the old “Danger: UXB” series.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 14, 2020 • 12:56:22pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Teen Vogue!!

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 14, 2020 • 3:19:05pm

re: #256 Nojay UK

Well, I just learned a new word!


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