Colbert - Cruelty Was the Plan: Chilling News About the Human Toll of Trump’s Child Separation Policy

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After discussing the supremely unsettling footage of Rudy Giuliani in the new “Borat” movie, Stephen Colbert takes a moment to encourage Americans who might be considering keeping Donald Trump in office for four more years to remember the awful cruelties his administration has inflicted on families at the Southern border. #Colbert #Monologue #BetterKnowABallot

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Belafon  Oct 21, 2020 • 9:16:17pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 21, 2020 • 9:26:34pm

FT! FACB! FMMcC!

F the grimy grout in my shower!

They ALL could benefit from some bleach right now…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 21, 2020 • 9:34:50pm

You know what?

I’m weary as hell of this Pandemic too and I’m starting to find it annoying wearing a mask everywhere and I’ve got an ever growing list of “shit I can’t wait to do when this is over”.

But there’s no vaccine yet.

And as badly as I want this to be over I have to accept that it just can’t be yet.

So I’ll keep masking up.
And I’ll keep social distancing.
And I’ll keep sanitizing like a motherfucker.

Because I care about my own health and that of the people I love more than anything.

Yes this pandemic sucks balls but pretending like its over is not going to accomplish a damn thing aside from keeping ICUs and morgues packed to the gills.

Marathons take time, people. Hang in there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 9:46:41pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

In the Panhandle:

Oct 21: 65 new cases (new record, breaking Oct. 19)
Oct 20: 56 new cases
Oct 19: 64 new cases (new record, breaking Oct. 15)
More than one-third of cases have been since Oct. 1
Weekly positivity rate: 23.7%, cumulative rate since Apr. 1: 7.9%
Active cases: 486

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 9:50:50pm

Hurricane Epsilon is now a major hurricane (category three).

nhc.noaa.gov

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 21, 2020 • 9:56:02pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 21, 2020 • 9:59:12pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Small storm with a very large eye for its size:

Image: floater-floater-AL272020-band13-36fr-20201022-0055.gif

It started off as a remnant low, drifted south, took on tropical storm characteristics, now peaking.

A “fish storm” though, no land targets.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:00:01pm

Update:
Betsy Devos cannot escape by sea after all. She sold her 50m super-yacht Seaquest earlier this year. It has been renamed Chasing Daylight. Princess Amway was asking 21.9 million for it, but there is no public record of how much she got. Good thing, too, since it did indeed have the range to abscond to Russia (5250 nautical miles).

Incidentally, I am a fan of ships and nautical stuff but I absolutely loathe most of these “super-yacht” designs. Compared to the graceful and dignified yachts of the past, they look like overblown floating whorehouses, a successful coke-smuggler’s idea of a good-looking ship. This could well be indicative of how decadent the wealthy have become in recent years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:03:55pm

re: #7 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Small storm with a very large eye for its size:

Image: floater-floater-AL272020-band13-36fr-20201022-0055.gif

It started off as a remnant low, drifted south, took on tropical storm characteristics, now peaking.

A “fish storm” though, no land targets.

The tropical storm windfield is very large though; Bermuda is within the field.

Headline - TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT…
Public Synopsis - A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect as category 3 Hurricane Epsilon, to our distant southeast, moves to be east of the Island tomorrow night into early Friday. Intensifying showers with tropical storm force winds will intermittently occur into Friday then ease thereafter as Epsilon exits to the north. Hazardous to dangerous seas and surf can be expected over the next several days.
Tonight - Mostly cloudy as showers develop… Winds northeasterly strong to gale force, occasionally increasing slightly with stronger gusts in and around showers… Low near 24°C/75°F.
Thursday - Sunny breaks, dry afternoon, showery evening and night… Winds north-northeasterly strong to gale force, tending northerly by afternoon, increasing strong to gale force (at times) evening onward with stronger gusts in and around showers, tending north-northwesterly overnight… High near 27°C/80°F, low near 23°C/73°F. Clear sky UV Index forecast - 6 or high.

(more)

weather.bm (Bermuda Weather Service)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:04:46pm

From earlier thread.

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

At this point, I am going to be putting all effort (and still more money) into GOTV here in Texas.
I am reasonably confident that Biden will win convincingly enough to keep the GOP from making a serious effort to overturn the result (though they will whine, accuse, and conspirafy till hell won’t have it).
He can do this without Texas, but turning Texas blue is a dream of mine, and would be a shattering, perhaps fatal, blow to Republican morale and even to their fundamental world-view. They might finally begin to understand that they are out of touch with most of the human race.

I have almost donated all of my 1200 Stimulus check. What suggestions do you have for texas to send a few bucks to? Anyone else has suggestions. I think Biden has enough, but what senate races should I consider. Thanks in advance.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:07:31pm

re: #10 I Would Prefer Not To

From earlier thread.

I have almost donated all of my 1200 Stimulus check. What suggestions do you have for texas to send a few bucks to? Anyone else has suggestions. I think Biden has enough, but what senate races should I consider. Thanks in advance.

Wendy Davis against Chip Roy in TX-21?

wendydavisforcongress.com

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William Lewis  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:10:28pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Yes, I understand. This. THIS is a yacht.

Bogart’s racing yacht, Santana.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:11:11pm

re: #10 I Would Prefer Not To

From earlier thread.

I have almost donated all of my 1200 Stimulus check. What suggestions do you have for texas to send a few bucks to? Anyone else has suggestions. I think Biden has enough, but what senate races should I consider. Thanks in advance.

Texas League of Women Voters is a great organization and probably the top GOTV group in the state.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:15:13pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Texas League of Women Voters is a great organization and probably the top GOTV group in the state.

thanks. I will check out and send them some $.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:19:43pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

superyachtinvestor.com

Or as Abigail Disney put it when she did an advert for the midterms after the GOP Tax Scam, “go look at it. It will want to make you chew glass.”

The Wealthy Don’t Need Another Tax Break (Now This, 4:28)

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:25:11pm

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Update:
Betsy Devos cannot escape by sea after all. She sold her 50m super-yacht Seaquest earlier this year. It has been renamed Chasing Daylight. Princess Amway was asking 21.9 million for it, but there is no public record of how much she got. Good thing, too, since it did indeed have the range to abscond to Russia (5250 nautical miles).

Incidentally, I am a fan of ships and nautical stuff but I absolutely loathe most of these “super-yacht” designs. Compared to the graceful and dignified yachts of the past, they look like overblown floating whorehouses, a successful coke-smuggler’s idea of a good-looking ship. This could well be indicative of how decadent the wealthy have become in recent years.

Why shouldn’t these ships be floating whorehouses?
The skippers are the biggest pimps!

Eddie Lampert, the man who destroyed Sears, has a mega-yacht. He once parked it in Boston Harbor for god-knows-why. It should have been torched to the waterline and sunk.

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plansbandc  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:30:26pm

Letterman’s Lizzo interview is so great. Watch it.

(New season of “My Next Guest Needs No Introduction”)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:37:57pm

Speaking of Superyacht Investor, they recently ran this whinging screed.

Closing borders to non-native crews ‘draconian’, says captain

The shutting of Australian and New Zealand borders to all non-native yachts and crews is “draconian and unhelpful to say the least”, according to captain Iain Flockhart.

He was reacting to the news that crews of hundreds of ocean-going yachts fear being stranded in the Pacific islands during cyclone season with usual safe havens in New Zealand and Australia closed because of Covid-19 travel restrictions.

Flockhart told Superyacht Investor: “On the premise of the old saying ‘Any port in a storm” and given the vastness off the Pacific, with options somewhat limited, and the fact that safe havens are a considerable distance from the current danger areas, getting out of a high risk should take precedence and as long as all reasonable precautions are taken relating to Covid-19 and proper quarantine procedures are set up, this would be the favourable course of action.”

Too bad for you.

Consultation, according to Flockhart, should take place with underwriters for any vessel that has no option but to remain in a high risk area. “Underwriters have specific clauses about not being in high risk areas at certain times of the year. Any vessels in these areas should therefore contact their underwriters or insurance brokers to clarify their own situations and discuss what options are available, and to see if the underwriters are prepared to make any exceptions in the current circumstances.”

The situation is unprecedented. Flockhart cannot recall a time when the movement of yachts has been so severely impacted during the annual tourist season in the southern hemisphere.

“I think, in general, it is a silly thing to be doing,” continued Flockhart, “Yes, we are in the midst of a global pandemic but there are simple, tried and tested ways of managing such a situation. You simply set up a week controlled quarantine system.”

(More whinging about economics and shortsightedness of Australian and New Zealand politicians.)

Won’t someone think of the poor insurance companies and billionaires?

One week quarantine, he wants.

Go to some other port. As for “tried-and-true,” superyachts didn’t exist during the Spanish Flu pandemic. Try again.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:42:05pm

One of the most famous of these super-yachts was the one Steve Jobs had built for himself. He died before getting to enjoy it:

Venus

I think it’s among the ugliest ships I’ve ever seen.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:46:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:52:53pm

re: #19 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the most famous of these super-yachts was the one Steve Jobs had built for himself. He died before getting to enjoy it:

Venus

I think it’s among the ugliest ships I’ve ever seen.

Was he trying to create a XXI Century version of Noah’s Yacht Ark?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:54:35pm

en.wikipedia.org

List of superyachts by length (over 75m), with pictures. Every one of them is uglier than the last.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:59:01pm

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Mattand  Oct 21, 2020 • 10:59:47pm

re: #19 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the most famous of these super-yachts was the one Steve Jobs had built for himself. He died before getting to enjoy it:

Venus

I think it’s among the ugliest ships I’ve ever seen.

THANK YOU. That thing is an abomination. It’s also kinda odd given Jobs’s preference for designs with curved and soft edges.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:05:25pm

Disney Heiress Calls For Wealth Tax: ‘We Have To Draw A Line’ (All Things Considered, June 28, 2019).

She talks about interviewing employees at Disneyland who were rationing their insulin, &c.

She also notes no Disney family members are actually on the board of Disney any more.

The corporation, stung by Abigail Disney calling them out as a soulless empire which pays its workers starvation wages, responded with predictable apologetics which did not actually address her statements.

“Disney is at the forefront of providing workforce education, which is widely recognized as the best way to create economic opportunity for employees and empower upward mobility. Our Disney Aspire initiative is the most comprehensive employee education program in the country, covering 100% of all tuition costs, books and fees so our hourly workers can pursue higher education free of charge, and graduate free of debt. Under Bob Iger’s leadership, Disney has made an initial commitment of $150 million to fund this program in the first five years, and will continue to make significant investments to make Disney Aspire available to as many employees as possible. Disney also provides flexible schedules and subsidized childcare to make it easier for employees to take advantage of this opportunity. American workers need meaningful change; they deserve smart policies and practical programs, like Disney Aspire, that empower them to achieve their goals and ensure they are part of the most competitive workforce in the world.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:12:37pm

Hundreds of Nebraskans were potentially falsely told they could not vote (Omaha World-Herald), the lede:

Hundreds of eligible voters may have been mistakenly told that they can’t participate in the 2020 election because of problems with the handling of a Nebraska law requiring a two-year waiting period to restore felons’ voting rights.

At least 51 Nebraskans eligible and registered to vote received county letters saying they were ineligible to vote, Nebraska Secretary of State Bob Evnen told the American Civil Liberties Union of Nebraska.

But the number of potential voters who received erroneous letters is most likely higher, ACLU of Nebraska Executive Director Danielle Conrad said, based on the ACLU’s reviews of the felons sent letters.

“It’s a perfect storm of confusion and errors in the system,” Conrad said of problems with calculating the two-year waiting period required for felons after they complete their sentences. “Unfortunately, we don’t know the impact that that perfect storm may have.”

(more)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:16:54pm
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ericblair  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:16:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:20:14pm

Yay, my county. The organisers insisted that Covid-19 would not be a problem for their event. The event did comply with event size restrictions imposed by Panhandle Public Health District (because those restrictions are useless).

The Heirloom Market, held in Bayard on Saturday, Oct.10, has been listed as a community exposure site by Panhandle Public Health District.

Anyone who attended the market should monitor for COVID symptoms through Oct. 24 and if they begin experiencing any symptoms, immediately get tested and quarantine at home.

Due to recent disease investigations indicating confirmed COVID positive cases were contagious during their time at the market and unable to identify each person they were near, health officials are notifying the public of the potential for exposure. The Heirloom Market organizers have worked closely with health officials to notify their vendors of potential exposure; however, due to additional cases being present at the market during their contagious time, it has been increased to a community exposure site.

(more)

Bayard market listed as community exposure site (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, 13 hours ago)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:25:44pm

Meanwhile just to my north:

Allegations of resistance by the Alliance school district to participate in COVID-19 health investigations has gained the attention of state officials.

Vote for conservatives, get genocides.

Even the minimal restrictions put on by Pete Ricketts (report what’s going on in Alliance Public Schools) is too much for them. They aren’t gonna have no gubmint interference in their schools, even if they have to expose every student.

starherald.com

In response to a question from Nebraska Department of Education Commissioner Matthew Blomstedt, he acknowledged that the Panhandle Public Health District and state officials have encountered access problems in health investigations and enforcing requirements in the Alliance Public Schools. Blomstedt said he had met with a group of school board members from across the state on Thursday, asking for “a level of compliance.” He plans to meet with Alliance school board members.

“… Or we are going to have to step in and do a little bit more and put some other requirements onto the school,” Blomstedt said.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:32:26pm

If this is a repost sorry, but it’s a winner.

night good people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:49:15pm

Probably a glitch included to generate more profit for Terrorbook.

#deleteFacebook

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:50:56pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Facebook said an initiative to clean up conspiracy content was thwarted by a “glitch” that showed people information about QAnon even when they weren’t looking for it

Did you want to supersize that?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:52:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 21, 2020 • 11:54:18pm

“Elledge calculated life expectancy for more than 200,000 Americans who have died of COVID-19 and made two surprising findings: COVID-19 has cost Americans 2.5 million years of life - about as much as from six months of cancer deaths. And roughly half that loss has come from people who died in middle age, not their waning years. “

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:06:37am

Parliaments are no guarantee of conservative rodent copulation, as seen in Canada. The Conservatives brought their third no confidence motion against Justin Trudeau’s government.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his minority Liberal government have avoided a potential snap election.

The Liberals survived a confidence vote in the House of Commons 180 to 146, with the support of the opposition NDP.

The vote on Wednesday was over a Conservative motion demanding a special committee on coronavirus aid spending.

It comes a year to the day that Mr Trudeau retained power in a narrow election win.

The political drama concerned an opposition motion seeking to create a special parliamentary committee to probe the Liberal government’s pandemic relief spending.

(more)

Bloc Quebecois also voted with the Conservatives. Greens voted with the Liberals.

bbc.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:16:42am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:22:05am

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Was he trying to create a XX Century version of Noah’s Yacht Ark?

re: #24 Mattand

IIRC, at that time Jobs was in his shiny glass stage - the iMac had dropped the anti-glare coating and gone with very high reflectance glass.

The yacht incorporated this flat-glassy look.

So gone were the traditional wooden ship with curves (from bending wood slowly while wet, to shape it), that even metal ships often imitate.

Instead what was left for the Venus was to be an engineering ideal that no artist would sculpt except in irony of the cold heartless nature of the industrial age.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:51:04am

A famous number that was also featured in a Cagney film of the same year (1933):

1933 Rudy Vallee - Shanghai Lil

..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:53:44am

The Cagney film which featured that tune:

Footlight Parade (1933) – Shanghai Lil (Full Scene)

..

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Ming5000  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:57:15am

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

They don’t make them like that anymore!

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:58:06am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:04:42am

re: #39 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A famous number that was also featured in a Cagney film of the same year (1933):..

According to the label, it was “electrically recorded” (as opposed to steam recording I guess).

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:05:00am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:27:50am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The early recordings were direct to wax, a needle coupled to diaphragm on one end and the pointy side on a wax cylinder.

Playback was the reverse, and this is where both Edison and Bell and their teams worked to make something useful. But of course the physical transducers were weak, thus requiring a horn to get the most out of the sound.

IIRC it wasn’t until the 1920’s that an electronic pick-up mic was invented to make musical recordings.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:29:54am

A reminder that among the badness of 2020 was the death of Kirk Douglas:

Along the Great Divide - Clip

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:36:02am

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Cagney film which featured that tune:

..

“…she said she won’t be mine / for all of Palestine…”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:48:07am

Meg Whitman drives another company into the ground whilst making a lot of money. Took her six months.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:51:30am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Meg Whitman drives another company into the ground whilst making a lot of money. Took her six months.

The Mitt Romney Bain Capital model.

The Germans call it Heuschreckenkapitalismus (locust capitalism)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 1:55:30am

re: #44 Ace-o-aces

This is some weapons grade projection Greenwald’s got going here.

He recently did an interview on how “the media and Intel community are working together to manipulate the American people.”

Whose Intel community?

And of course, GG is sublimely above the media…he is Godhead

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:11:15am

So WarnerArchive puts on their Youtube channel the opening of the pilot Babylon 5:

Babylon 5: The Gathering/ In The Beginning - Clip

I notice it is a different cut than what we prior got in the US on digital distribution outlets.

Also, it seems the deinterlacing is better. Even on Amazon Prime the pilot and early episodes show off interlacing effects, which become prominent as the graphics back then didn’t dither edges as well as today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:13:50am

We’re getting freezing rain and fog now. The temperature is far below what was predicted.

forecast.weather.gov

Snow coming up later.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:15:54am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re getting freezing rain and fog now. The temperature is far below what was predicted.

forecast.weather.gov

Snow coming up later.

balmy sunny autumn weather here…for that, we are swarming with fruit flies.

Vintners dump their pressed grapes out in the vineyards. A quick frost would kill them off, but there is none in sight, wind or rain would at least keep them down but we have at best a light breeze.

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Jack Burton  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:21:12am

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

en.wikipedia.org

List of superyachts by length (over 75m), with pictures. Every one of them is uglier than the last.

My opinion on the subject is, if a boat needs a crew to be hired to operate it, it’s too big for a single person to own.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:25:23am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So WarnerArchive puts on their Youtube channel the opening of the pilot Babylon 5:

[Embedded content]

Video

I notice it is a different cut than what we prior got in the US on digital distribution outlets.

Also, it seems the deinterlacing is better. Even on Amazon Prime the pilot and early episodes show off interlacing effects, which become prominent as the graphics back then didn’t dither edges as well as today.

Sigh, I’ve never seen the show, only a few clips here and there. It is not available on Hulu. It’s $109.84 for the five seasons and the movies.

amazon.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:26:10am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sigh, I’ve never seen the show, only a few clips here and there. It is not available on Hulu. It’s $109.84 for the five seasons and the movies.

amazon.com

I have only seen fits and snatches as well. I had assumed it was another Star Trek spin-off but I gather it has nothing to do with them at all.

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Jack Burton  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:36:21am

Damn it… I just typed up a novel of a post on how great Babylon 5 was (and DS9 is great too) and I accidentally bumped my mouse and hit the back button. So I lost it.

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Jack Burton  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:37:09am

That said watch it if/when you can, it’s good sci-fi once you get past its rough beginning.

Don’t pay $100 for it though.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:43:48am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s available on Amazon Prime.

It’s also available on *cough* various *cough* online streaming *cough* free websites….

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TarHellion  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:47:57am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Looking forward to watching the Chiefs and Broncos battle it out in the snow on Sunday.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 2:49:28am

re: #28 ericblair

[Embedded content]

I always lie down on a bed when alone in a room with a young girl just to “tuck in my shirt”

and I always always do it with a lecherous smile. that’s just me

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John Hughes  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:09:33am

re: #19 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the most famous of these super-yachts was the one Steve Jobs had built for himself. He died before getting to enjoy it:

Venus

I think it’s among the ugliest ships I’ve ever seen.

Designed by Stark. Looks like everything else he designed. Bleurgh.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:10:04am

Things aren’t looking good for Nebraska on the coronavirus front, as Douglas County (seat Omaha) will spill over into the rest of the state shortly.

On Tuesday, some 86% of regular beds in the metropolitan area’s hospitals were occupied, as were 81% of intensive care beds. That’s not that unusual, she said. Hospitals prefer to be full.

But among those patients were 179 with COVID-19, 59 of whom were in intensive care. Twenty-nine more were awaiting test results. That surpasses the spring peak of 170 COVID-19 patients in metro area hospitals on May 27, according to the county’s data dashboard. And the current count is up nearly 30% from the week before.

“I think the message is, every fifth ICU bed is occupied by a (COVID-19) patient, and every 10th general hospital bed is occupied by a (COVID-19) patient,” Pour said.

Douglas County’s increase in COVID-19 hospitalizations mirrors that of the state, which had a new peak of 380 patients hospitalized with the virus on Tuesday.

New health measures announced last week by Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts require hospitals to have 10% of hospital and ICU beds available for coronavirus patients in order to continue elective procedures.

Another concern, Pour said, is that state health officials are seeing that it is taking less time for infected people to become ill enough to require hospitalization. The lag used to be four to five weeks; now it’s closer to two weeks.

(more)

Douglas County on ‘the wrong path’ with COVID-19 as cases climb, winter approaches, Adi Pour says (Omaha World-Herald)

Adi Pour is the director of the Douglas County Health Department.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:16:16am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:18:33am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:25:00am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re getting freezing rain and fog now. The temperature is far below what was predicted.

forecast.weather.gov

Snow coming up later.

I haven’t checked outside for rain and such yet, but the forecast is for an additional 1-3” of snow, which will undoubtedly be of the wet and heavy variety that is such a pain to relocate.

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John Hughes  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:40:31am

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

en.wikipedia.org

List of superyachts by length (over 75m), with pictures. Every one of them is uglier than the last.

Well, no. Those of them built before I was born are mostly rather pretty.

El Mahrousa, built 1865 for example.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:41:33am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Man, lots of people no longer with us on the credits and scenes.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2020 • 3:47:52am

re: #62 John Hughes

Designed by Stark. Looks like everything else he designed. Bleurgh.

It’s a beautiful design, in itself. However it should be seen and sited as a derivation on one of Wright’s prairie houses. Would look good in Kansas, near the geographic center of the country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 4:25:37am

They don’t want to stop at repealing Roe vs Wade: they want this:

Poland abortion: Top court to rule on almost total ban

Poland’s constitutional court is due to rule on plans to introduce an almost total ban on abortion.

Poland’s laws are already among the strictest in Europe, with abortion only allowed in cases of rape or incest, if the mother’s life is at risk, or if the foetus is seriously compromised.

But the new legislation would ban terminations in cases of foetal defects.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:08:38am

re: #65 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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ericblair  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:25:50am
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b.d.  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:27:59am

re: #72 ericblair

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OH NO! NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION! ANYTHING BUT THAT!

TYRANNY!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:33:12am

re: #73 b.d.

OH NO! NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION! ANYTHING BUT THAT!

TYRANNY!!!

“WORSE THAN HITLER!!”, the RWNJ’s cried out in unison.

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ericblair  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:33:35am

re: #73 b.d.

OH NO! NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION! ANYTHING BUT THAT!

TYRANNY!!!

Well, these days “long term” is until tomorrow lunchtime, anyways.

And welcome to journalism:

Biden: We’re going to put together a commission on solutions, it’s not to pack the court.
O’Donnell: So you’re figuring out how to pack the court?
Fantasy Biden: WHAT DID I JUST FUCKIN SAY GET THE PEANUT BUTTER OUTTA YER EARS

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Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:35:01am

Our state is not one of those most likely to have organized armed interference on the polling process. We might get some me-too randos.

Here’s Where The Threat Of Militia Activity Around The Elections Is The Highest
npr.org

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NetworkKed  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:37:02am

Babylon 5 looks a little like Star Trek. It showed up at about the same moment as Deep Space 9, and the narrative center of each (space stations fated to play pivotal roles in a (series of) wars) is similar, but B5 is special.

You could argue that B5 was the first major modern non-network television series that was a serious authorial effort, with themes and storylines that carried through all five seasons. These days with the heyday of serial drama that doesn’t seem special, but in the early 90s when everything was more or less straight episodic it really stood out.

You can argue the merits of the characters, the male leads get a little Christlike at times and some of the character arcs are… less than I’d have hoped for. The last season doesn’t do much for me. But seasons 2-3-4 are the best damn television of that era.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:37:37am

re: #76 Decatur Deb

Our state is not one of those most likely to have organized armed interference on the polling process. We might get some me-too randos.

Here’s Where The Threat Of Militia Activity Around The Elections Is The Highest
npr.org

Hey NPR, they’re not militias, they’re terrorists.

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b.d.  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:39:25am

re: #75 ericblair

Well, these days “long term” is until tomorrow lunchtime, anyways.

And welcome to journalism:

Biden: We’re going to put together a commission on solutions, it’s not to pack the court.
O’Donnell: So you’re figuring out how to pack the court?
Fantasy Biden: WHAT DID I JUST FUCKIN SAY GET THE PEANUT BUTTER OUTTA YER EARS

Ha!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:43:40am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey NPR, they’re not militias, they’re terrorists.

Terrorists have a PT standard to meet. These guys are Army Weight Control Program washouts.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:44:08am

Dr. Lukashev here better be careful about open windows. Just sayin’…-

A number of Russian regions risk facing a second wave of the coronavirus pandemic that is 10 times worse than the first, a senior Russian vector-borne disease expert said Tuesday.

“The situation in the regions is very different,” Alexander Lukashev, who heads the Sechenov First Moscow State Medical University’s (MSMU) Martsinovsky Institute of Medical Parasitology, Tropical and Vector-Borne Diseases, told state television.

Moscow, for example, is the epicenter of Russia’s Covid-19 outbreak with over 377,000 confirmed cases, followed by the Moscow region with almost 82,000. On the opposite end, Russia’s two least-populated regions, the Nenets and Chukotka autonomous districts, have a combined total caseload of 622.

“In some regions, the second wave may well be 10 times larger than the first,” Lukashev told the Rossia broadcaster.

themoscowtimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:49:10am

New surge in cases in a couple weeks.

LINCOLN — Sports bar owners and managers aren’t sure what to expect for the opening of the Husker football season, which begins Saturday morning at Ohio State and continues with the home opener on Halloween.

On one hand, they hope for somewhat close to a normal game-day experience to make up for the difficult months of the pandemic. On the other, those hopes have been dimmed by the surging virus and a renewed need to practice social distancing and limit how many people walk in their doors.

The mantra of Lincoln and Omaha bar owners: Keep your fingers crossed and be ready for anything.

“The profit comes during football,” said Eric F. Marsh, owner of Longwell’s bar in Lincoln’s Haymarket. “And that’s also where you build up your fat reserves to get through the lean times of the year. I just hope that this year that that is possible for us.”

(more)

Omaha, Lincoln sports bars gearing up for first Husker football game (Omaha World-Herald)

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:53:38am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

New surge in cases in a couple weeks.

(more)

Omaha, Lincoln sports bars gearing up for first Husker football game (Omaha World-Herald)

Damn you are earning your Soros frequent poster bucks this week.

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:54:21am

The new Lincoln Project ad is very, very good.

Got something in my eye…

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 5:58:53am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Mitt Romney Bain Capital model.

The Germans call it Heuschreckenkapitalismus (locust capitalism)

Vulture capitalism. That’s what the GOP is using the pandemic to do. They’re picking over carcasses of businesses wrecked by the pandemic.

Reality of the stock markets is that the Dow 30 and S&P 500 aren’t telling the true tale of the economy because a handful of stocks are doing exceptionally well, and market cap drives the indicies based on how they’re computed.

But when you look at wider market, you see lower percentage of businesses in the black this year. Everything else is hemorrhaging because of the pandemic. Highest number of businesses bleeding red ink in years.

And this will be sustained because the economy wont recover until the pandemic is contained.

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:00:14am

Meanwhile, stimulus funds that went out earlier this year? Well, folks who made more money stashed it for a rainy day, while those who are paycheck to paycheck needed it for basics, and to pay off their debts.

Banks and lenders are coming out great with the stimulus.

Everyone else? Not so much.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:03:52am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:07:24am

re: #83 Shropshire Slasher

Damn you are earning your Soros frequent poster bucks this week.

Thanks. Now if he’d ever get around to sending the money …

Meanwhile in the maladministration’s obstruction of Congress (goes to Stars & Stripes) and showing how much conservatives love veterans:

VA officials refuse to participate in Senate hearing on landmark veterans health care law

WASHINGTON — Officials for the Department of Veterans Affairs declined to participate Wednesday in a Senate hearing about the progress in implementing the Mission Act, a law passed two years ago to help improve health care for veterans.

“I scheduled this hearing because of my dissatisfaction with the pace of Mission implementation,” Sen. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs, said at the hearing. “While VA officials were invited to participate in today’s hearing…the department chose to decline.”

Under the VA Mission Act of 2018, standards were dramatically loosened to allow veterans to seek mental health services, urgent care and primary care outside the federal system. The landmark effort was spurred by controversies surrounding excessive wait times for care at VA facilities and long distances some veterans had to travel to federal hospitals, especially patients from rural areas.

However, the shift to more care outside the government umbrella has raised concerns from some Democrats and progressive activists about creeping privatization in the VA and how that could take precedence over investing in federal facilities and employees. Congress provided about $15 billion for community care in the VA’s latest budget. Richard Stone, executive in charge of the Veterans Health Administration, told Congress in February that outside care costs about $1 billion each month, which sets spending within funding levels. However, the full impact of the coronavirus pandemic on community care remains unclear.

(more)

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:07:41am

Uday is coming to my home town today for a Nazi rally.

Eric Trump, son of President Donald Trump, to visit Beaver County today

wtae.com

Hurts to know my town which was once bright blue is now crimson red…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:15:59am

re: #89 🌹UOJB!

Uday is coming to my home town today for a Nazi rally.

Eric Trump, son of President Donald Trump, to visit Beaver County today

wtae.com

Hurts to know my town which was once bright blue is now crimson red…

Sorry about that …

It is interesting that they are campaigning in places they are likely to win, rather than places which are close.

Also, packing all those conservatives in one place increases the risk of infection.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:19:47am

Well once again the Communist Republican Party broke the committee rules to put Trump’s stooge on the corrupted court.

washingtonpost.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:20:01am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sorry about that …

It is interesting that they are campaigning in places they are likely to win, rather than places which are close.

Also, packing all those conservatives in one place increases the risk of infection.

It’s clear that they are campaigning to stroke their own egos, rather than campaigning to try to win. I suspect internally they know they’re sinking and are simply putting on a show to try to prevent Daddy Trump from exploding on them.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:21:55am

Traditional American allies in Europe fear that the United States has been lost as a reliable partner on the world stage, even if President Donald Trump goes down in defeat.

In interviews with the New York Times, European officials said that they fear the shift of the Republican Party away from traditional American foreign policy may be permanent, which would mean that relations with the United States would depend entirely on which party controls the White House.

We are no longer the “Indispensable nation” thanks to the Communist Republican Party.

rawstory.com

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:24:04am

re: #76 Decatur Deb

We as a country, under Republican and corporate control, are now a Hybrid Regime. Any country that has acknowledged armed thug gangs are threatening polling places often with the support of local sheriffs and police departments is no longer any sort of democracy, flawed or not.

This election is in part about trying to claw our way back to Flawed Democracy status. With Biden we will still be under the control of corporate and billionaire interests, we will still be living under a Republican packed SCOTUS arrived at by pure self-interest chicanery. But at least we can attempt to strengthen the ability to vote, limit gang policing, and make sure this sort of authoritarian gangsterism cannot happen again in order to turn this big ship around.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:25:17am

When a relative posts this cartoon to his Facebook page and comments that these people are better off because they are with Jesus…you block him.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:28:03am

re: #95 🌹UOJB!

When a relative posts this cartoon to his Facebook page and comments that these people are better off because they are with Jesus…you block him.

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What. The actual. FUCK.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:28:05am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:29:14am

Sickening story of ICE using torture to force refugees facing persecution to sign deportation orders. The fascists in ICE know a regime change is coming, and like SS guards in 1945, they are trying to get rid of the evidence. theguardian.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:30:24am

re: #41 Ming5000

They don’t make them like that anymore!

Yeah, because it’s racist as shit! That was a white actress in “yellowface” as “Shanghai Lil”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:32:04am

re: #95 🌹UOJB!

When a relative posts this cartoon to his Facebook page and comments that these people are better off because they are with Jesus…you block him.

One yike. Even the religious people in my family who disowned me aren’t that crazy.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:33:42am

This guy sounds almost progressive. Michigan Republicans are probably trying to find a way to remove this guy:

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:35:46am

IF its accurate and it holds…..

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:43:17am

There’s a ratfuck op going on called #ADOS which is targeting Black people to a) not vote b) vote 3rd party c) elect Trump by claiming that Kamala Harris is “not really Black” because her mother is Indian and her father is Jamaican (hello! Jamaicans are Black!). These nutbags also claim that Obama is “not really Black”

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:44:48am

re: #101 Belafon

It’s a vivid reminder that businesses moved to shut down and take precautions against covid19 before states or Trump did.

Many businesses stopped nonessential travel, urged work from home where possible, and implemented their own policies before states did (or still have done as a bunch of GOP dominated states still don’t have masking mandates in place).

That’s not to say all businesses were responsible. There’s a bunch that weren’t, including a bunch of food production facilities all across the same states that don’t have mandatory masking.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:45:24am

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

There’s a ratfuck op going on called #ADOS which is targeting Black people to a) not vote b) vote 3rd party c) elect Trump by claiming that Kamala Harris is “not really Black” because her mother is Indian and her father is Jamaican (hello! Jamaicans are Black!). These nutbags also claim that Obama is “not really Black”

So, the same thing the Tea Party did in 2008.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:46:38am

Trump spokesperson says armed men outside Florida early voting location not hired by campaign

A Trump campaign spokesperson says two men dressed as armed security guards who set up in a tent outside an early voting location in downtown St. Petersburg, Florida, were not hired by the campaign.

Thea McDonald, Deputy National Press Secretary for the Trump campaign, told WFLA: “The Campaign did not hire these individuals nor did the Campaign direct them to go to the voting location.”

Julie Marcus, Pinellas County Supervisor of Elections, said the men set up a tent outside an early voting site on Wednesday and claimed to be with the Trump campaign. Deputies with Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office came to the polling place and spoke to the guards, who said they were hired by the Trump campaign and would be out Thursday at the early voting location.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:48:43am

IF its accurate and it holds…..

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:49:30am

You know, Donny Jr. could have posed for all those bogus photos of Hunter Biden.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:49:50am

re: #106 Amory Blaine

Not hired, just encouraged through agitprop.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:50:41am

re: #106 Amory Blaine

Trump spokesperson says armed men outside Florida early voting location not hired by campaign

Doesn’t matter if they are officially with the campaign or not; Trump encourages this shit, and we are probably going to see a lot of it. I just hope we don’t have any mass shootings on election day at any voting locations.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:50:55am

re: #19 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the most famous of these super-yachts was the one Steve Jobs had built for himself. He died before getting to enjoy it:

Venus

I think it’s among the ugliest ships I’ve ever seen.

It’s a barge

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:51:04am

“FULL, FLOWING, MAGNIFICENTLY BRILLIANT” like his famous hair.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:51:32am

re: #108 The Pie Overlord!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:53:47am
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NetworkKed  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:55:15am

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What’s going wrong in IL-17?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:55:49am

re: #102 dangerman

IF its accurate and it holds…..

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One of the things that gives me confidence of a big victory is that Democrats are backing their enthusiasm by opening their wallets and donating. People energized enough to donate in huge numbers are definitely going to vote.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:55:50am

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

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Ming5000  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:56:23am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

Yes, I know. I agree and that was the basis of my comment. My comment may not have come across the way I intended.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:57:11am

re: #92 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s clear that they are campaigning to stroke their own egos, rather than campaigning to try to win. I suspect internally they know they’re sinking and are simply putting on a show to try to prevent Daddy Trump from exploding on them.

It’s where ‘ugly’ people can be rock stars. (Ugly doesn’t have to refer in how you look on the outside. )

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 22, 2020 • 6:59:22am

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Wow, I would’ve thought Amash’s district would be deep red, but its now a tossup!

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jeffreyw  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:00:23am

Pine Siskins, mostly

Good morning!

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:01:22am

Rasmussen is giving Trump an 8 point swing over the past week. Sounds legit.

What the fuck did he do in the past week to gain 8 points? I smell ratfuckery.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:01:34am

re: #115 NetworkKed

What’s going wrong in IL-17?

Too close to Iowa?

The 17th congressional district of Illinois is represented by Democrat Cheri Bustos. It includes most of the northwestern portion of the state, with most of its population living on the Illinois side of the Quad Cities, as well as parts of Peoria and Rockford.

The 17th congressional district has shifted northward after the 2012 redistricting. It lost Quincy and Decatur, as well as its share of Springfield. It was generally thought that the redrawn map would allow the district to revert to the Democrats, who held it without interruption from 1983 to 2011. As expected, one-term Republican incumbent Bobby Schilling was defeated by Democratic opponent Cheri Bustos in the 2012 election cycle

en.wikipedia.org

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Amory Blaine  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:03:36am

Stable genius!

The Case Against Donald Trump

…But let us lay all of this aside for the moment. Let us even lay aside the extraordinary fact that Donald Trump has been credibly accused of rape. Compelling evidence suggests that his countless sins and defects are rooted in mental instability, pathological narcissism, and profound moral and cognitive impairment. Which returns us to the subject of Major Hering.

Trump’s opponent, Joe Biden, is in many ways a typically imperfect candidate, but if we judge these men on two questions alone—Who is a more trustworthy steward of America’s nuclear arsenal? Which man poses less of a threat to our collective existence?—the answer is spectacularly obvious.

The Atlantic has endorsed only three candidates in its 163-year history: Abraham Lincoln, Lyndon B. Johnson, and Hillary Clinton. The latter two endorsements had more to do with the qualities of Barry Goldwater and Donald Trump than with those of Johnson and Clinton. The same holds true in the case of Joe Biden. Biden is a man of experience, maturity, and obvious humanity, but had the Republican Party put forward a credible candidate for president, we would have felt no compulsion to state a preference. Donald Trump, however, is a clear and continuing danger to the United States, and it does not seem likely that our country would be able to emerge whole from four more years of his misrule. Two men are running for president. One is a terrible man; the other is a decent man. Vote for the decent man.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:11:31am

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

“FULL, FLOWING, MAGNIFICENTLY BRILLIANT” like his famous hair.

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It will be heavily edited and CBS will be forced to release all of their video to prove it, further damaging Trump.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:14:02am

re: #122 makeitstop

Rasmussen is giving Trump an 8 point swing over the past week. Sounds legit.

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What the fuck did he do in the past week to gain 8 points? I smell ratfuckery.

That’s a poll of all of the children and grandchildren, and Tiffany is finally on board.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:14:31am

re: #125 Belafon

It will be heavily edited and CBS will be forced to release all of their video to prove it, further damaging Trump.

Just wait till James O’Keefe edits that film for His Ass-Holeyness! 😉

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:14:47am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Did they fuck up the field order?

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:19:07am

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

“FULL, FLOWING, MAGNIFICENTLY BRILLIANT” like his famous hair.

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Trump threatens
Cbs acts

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:21:52am
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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:22:02am

Des moines register

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:22:44am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:26:34am
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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:27:40am

Here’s a good piece by Republican Stuart Stevens: Victory is Near

I don’t agree with all of what he’s saying, but this part rings like a bell.

The most vulnerable moment for any challenger facing an incumbent president is the period immediately after securing the nomination, when you are broke and trying to build a national organization out of a series of state races you were fighting just a few weeks earlier. In all of modern politics, the Biden campaign is the only campaign that actually jumped out to a lead against an incumbent during this tenuous time.

Even given all of this success in a race where Biden has held a steady and sizable lead, I sense a strange lack of confidence with Democrats, as if they have been juggling eggs for most of a marathon and can’t believe they actually might cross the finish in first place.

In these last two weeks, I would plead with Democrats to change that mindset and banish the timidity. If I ran the Democratic party, here’s what I’d be telling my troops:

We are going to crush Donald Trump and the sickness he represents. There are more of us than there are of them. We are right. They are wrong. This is our moment. This is our destiny. Walk with confidence. Do not falter. Victory will be ours.

[…]

So to my Democratic friends: Let us go forward in this final stretch with the confidence that our mission is vital and our opponent is weak.

Do not hesitate to swagger. These last two weeks belong to you. Years from now you will look back on these last days as some of the best in your lives. An evil was unleashed in the country you love and you rose to smite it. You will slay this dragon.

Trump is collapsing and his allies of convenience are panicked.

Now is when you turn a victory into a rout. We are all tired, but the other side isn’t just tired. They are frightened and confused. As they should be. Because they are losing the fight for the soul of this country. And they know it.

Victory is near.

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:31:05am

re: #134 makeitstop

It’s part and parcel of the be happy that polling shows Biden is ahead significantly, but fight as though Trump’s up 2. Take nothing for granted.

We’ve seen how national polls don’t reflect that happens in individual states. We don’t have a national election. We have 51 separate state/DC elections. Each state ultimately produces EC delegates for a candidate. First to 270 wins. Right now, it appears that Biden has more paths to 270 than Trump.

It should be a blowout, but Trumpists are impervious to facts or logic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:38:59am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:41:41am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Joe should get a restraining order against Slumlord Sean.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:43:41am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:44:11am

re: #137 🌹UOJB!

Joe should get a restraining order against Slumlord Sean.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:44:19am

Conservatives can’t be shamed, only defeated.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:45:46am
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Teukka  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:46:36am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So WarnerArchive puts on their Youtube channel the opening of the pilot Babylon 5:

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Video

I notice it is a different cut than what we prior got in the US on digital distribution outlets.

Also, it seems the deinterlacing is better. Even on Amazon Prime the pilot and early episodes show off interlacing effects, which become prominent as the graphics back then didn’t dither edges as well as today.

There are two versions of the pilot, one early with music by Copeland, another with music by the composer used for the rest of the series, Christopher Franke.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:47:29am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Slumlord Sean wants his 3%er militia pals to congregate by Joe’s home. He wants them strutting around with their AR-15s.

He’s programming the next Caesar Sayoc and/or Scott Roeder.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:47:53am
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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:47:58am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Client number 3 is an accessory to felony conduct as an intermediary between Manafort and Trump. In a just world, he would be prosecuted as such.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:55:18am

re: #143 🌹UOJB!

Slumlord Sean wants his 3%er militia pals to congregate by Joe’s home. He wants them strutting around with their AR-15s.

He’s programming the next Caesar Sayoc and/or Scott Roeder.

Perhaps someone ought to put out a large campaign sign for Joe and Kamala to make sure it’s in FOX’s shot.

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Teukka  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:55:22am

re: #113 🌹UOJB!

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I see your pic and raise you a meme…

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:58:37am

re: #147 Teukka

I see your pic and raise you a meme…

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Now that’s just downright evil…

BUT I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 7:58:43am
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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:00:01am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m pro all of those things, but I’m pro-living more than anything else, and the others do not take precedence over that.

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Teukka  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:01:23am

re: #148 🌹UOJB!

Now that’s just downright evil…

BUT I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

It’s a classic meme when you have that Chris Hansen insert,
“So your name is %name%?”
“And you like underage girls?”

:grins evily:

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:01:38am

re: #149 The Pie Overlord!

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Someone should send out a request for a lot of people in the area to show up and block that tent and those people from getting anywhere near voters until it’s removed.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:01:42am

re: #106 Amory Blaine

Trump spokesperson says armed men outside Florida early voting location not hired by campaign

In Texas, this kind of shit is illegal AF. To work as a uniformed security guard, you have to have an individual license, you have to be on the payroll of a licensed security provider and, if you’re armed, a state commission. These licenses are issued by the Department of Public Safety (state police). You also have to have a valid contract between your employer and any venue where you appear to be performing security duties.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:01:46am

Meanwhile my grandnephews in the Proud Boys are saying they will be at Pennsylvania polling places to make sure that…”no illegals are voting for Biden”…

So I clipped their Facebook post and sent an e-mail to the Pennsylvania Attorney General’s office…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:02:02am

re: #149 The Pie Overlord!

Armed dudes showed up at a St. Petersburg, FL polling location. They claimed they’re with a licensed security company. That security company claimed they were hired by the Trump Campaign.

This is just a taste of what is coming down on us all over the place and with extreme prejudice.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:06:59am

re: #154 🌹UOJB!

Meanwhile my grandnephews in the Proud Boys are saying they will be at Pennsylvania polling places to make sure that…”no illegals are voting for Biden”…

So I clipped their Facebook post and sent an e-mail to the Pennsylvania Attorney General’s office…

Man, Joe, I thought my family was awful. It seems like you would be trading up to join a family which simply hates atheists.

Did you warn them that what they plan is illegal, are they just flexing for their followers, or are they serious?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:09:05am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Man, Joe, I thought my family was awful. It seems like you would be trading up to join a family which simply hates atheists.

Did you warn them that what they plan is illegal, are they just flexing for their followers, or are they serious?

They.
Are.
Stupid.

I have had it with them. In the immortal words of Popeye That’s all I’s can stands I can’t stands no more. So they and other asshole brainwashed relatives are being blocked and unfriended on Facebook.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:10:54am

re: #157 🌹UOJB!

They.
Are.
Stupid.

I would feel bad about upfisting this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:10:56am

re: #157 🌹UOJB!

They.
Are.
Stupid.

also sounds like the sort of twisted, malicious sociopaths who derive great pleasure from annoying and intimidating people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:11:02am

Thread:

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:11:20am

Situation is very grim in Grand County, CO. The East Troublesome fire advanced more than 20 miles yesterday, scorched over 100,000 acres in less than 24 hours. Fire lines are less than two miles from the town of Grand Lake and the fire is now burning in Rocky Mountain National Park. Today’s weather forecast is more dry and windy conditions.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:11:56am

Lubbock business to host St. Louis couple that pointed guns at protesters

LUBBOCK, Texas — On Wednesday, the Lubbock restaurant Cook’s Garage announced a meet-and-greet with Mark and Patricia McCloskey, a St. Louis couple that went viral after pointing guns at protesters in June.

The McCloskey’s were indicted for felony unlawful use of a weapon October 6 for a June 28 incident where the two pointed guns at protesters while they marched on their private street, according to The Associated Press.

Since the incident, the couple was featured at the Republican National Convention and Missouri Governor Mike Parson said he will pardon the two if they are convicted.

The meet-and-greet was announced on Facebook and is slated to take place on Friday, October 23 at 12:00 p.m. The business also said that Congressman Jodey Arrington would introduce the couple at the event.

Cook’s Garage again. They sponsored the two MAGA vehicle parades that attempted (unsuccessfully) to block Loop 289, and they have also made the national media for their “decor:”
Lubbock Restaurant Under Fire for ‘Racist’ Vintage Neon Sign

A restaurant in Texas is facing backlash after a photo of a sign posted in one of its rooms went viral on social media. The vintage neon sign at Cook’s Garage in Lubbock features a caricature of an African-American man with “Coon Chicken Inn,” written across his teeth. Many are demanding the sign’s removal, calling it racist in comments circulating via social media and Yelp.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:12:51am

re: #161 teleskiguy

Just announced: Rocky Mountain National Park has been shut down.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:13:41am

re: #161 teleskiguy

Please be safe fella. A couple weeks ago the smoke got so bad here in Los Angeles I had to run all 3 of my Molekule air purifiers on full for 2 weeks nonstop.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:14:10am

And now for some good news…Loony Laura got smacked down by a reporter!

Trump-loving GOP candidate goes down in flames when reporter corners her on her own frivolous lawsuit

Laura Loomer, a far-right internet troll who won the Republican Party’s nomination for Florida’s 21st congressional district, wilted under questioning from a local news reporter during an interview this week.

In an interview with journalist Jay O’Brien, Loomer claimed that she has been banned from multiple tech platforms — including Twitter, Facebook and even Uber Eats — because of a vast far-left conspiracy against her, and not because she has regularly spread misinformation about mass shootings being staged “false flag” operations.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:15:30am

re: #161 teleskiguy

Situation is very grim in Grand County, CO. The East Troublesome fire advanced more than 20 miles yesterday, scorched over 100,000 acres in less than 24 hours. Fire lines are less than two miles from the town of Grand Lake and the fire is now burning in Rocky Mountain National Park. Today’s weather forecast is more dry and windy conditions.

Today
Widespread smoke. Mostly sunny, with a high near 54. West wind 8 to 11 mph becoming south southeast in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 18 mph.
Tonight
A chance of snow and freezing drizzle, mainly between 7pm and 4am. Widespread smoke before 7pm. Cloudy, with a low around 16. East southeast wind 3 to 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.
Friday
A slight chance of snow and freezing drizzle before 7am. Partly sunny, with a high near 44. Light and variable wind becoming south southwest 5 to 10 mph in the morning. Winds could gust as high as 16 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

forecast.weather.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:17:18am

re: #164 🌹UOJB!

Please be safe fella. A couple weeks ago the smoke got so bad here in Los Angeles I had to run all 3 of my Molekule air purifiers on full for 2 weeks nonstop.

The fires around Rocky Mountain National Park, as far as smoke goes, are not as much of a concern for Teleskiguy as they are for me.

With the winds from the south, that puts the smoke over the Nebraska Panhandle.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:19:04am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

OWTCH!

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:19:56am

re: #161 teleskiguy

Stay safe dude. I saw that they closed all the national forests around RMNP to prevent further wildfires, but that does nothing to stop existing fires from spreading.

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Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:19:57am

Hello there, Peabody here. In line for early voting, in the middle of October, in 74 degree weather. WTF?!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:21:05am

re: #170 Targetpractice

Hello there, Peabody here. In line for early voting, in the middle of October, in 74 degree weather. WTF?!

We are having thundersnow.

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SteelPH  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:21:58am

Oh boy. A Halloween parade is scheduled to happen here. What could possible go wrong?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:22:28am

re: #161 teleskiguy

The Mullen Fire, which started west of Laramie County in Wyoming and burned south into Colorado is still going, and about 3/4 contained. It’s burned 176,863 acres.

Winds from the west put that smoke over Cheyenne and the Nebraska Panhandle. Cheyenne has suffered some days as bad as Los Angeles in air quality.

inciweb.nwcg.gov

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:25:24am

Florida again…sigh…

A South Florida high school student said what happened in the virtual classroom left her shocked, as she was on the receiving end of a racial rant from one of her classmates.

According to Jasmine, who is a freshman at Miami Senior High School, what made matters worse is that she got no support from her teacher.

“Kept on seeing something pop up on the Zoom, so I look, and then, it’s like N-word — hard R — in all caps,” she said. “Then, I click on the chat, I open it and then, it’s like spammed all through, and then, it’s like ‘Unmute me ugly B-word.’”

wsvn.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:27:34am

I’m safe, all major fire activity is to the east of me. Grand County, CO is looking at potentially cataclysmic catastrophe. Hasn’t been confirmed yet, but there’s reports the Grand Lake Lodge was destroyed.

This was inevitable. All the forests in Grand County were beetle-killed in the aughts, just endless stands of dark red tinder-dry forest that’s been waiting to burn. Yesterday all the elements for a horrible fire lined up. I’m pretty sure the state of Colorado has never seen 100,000 acres get torched in a day, I know I sure haven’t.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:28:16am

Well that was fun. I just sent my ballot in.

I’ve been looking for the packet in mail but it came in email a month ago. I emailed my SoS who told me when it went out and found it. So…

Printed, completed and sent.

But because it’s so late I had to send it FedEx because our UPS store has closed. FedEx isn’t guaranteeing 2nd day or ground delivery so $53 to send it overnight with a signature.

Instructions were clear but different than what the state officials (not my county) told me when I called them. Voting ex-pat differs from voting absentee.

Weeeeee.

Now I’m waiting for the signature confirming receipt and them I’ll follow the ballot online to ensure it’s counted.

How’s your day going? 🙄

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:37:17am
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:42:19am

re: #121 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

The climes, they are a’changing.

New buds. Someone tell that plant it’s October.
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mmmirele  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:43:04am

re: #86 lawhawk

I gave my stimulus check away to the local food bank and to people I knew could use it. I don’t consider myself special or holier than thou. My thought was that I was employed for the foreseeable future, I didn’t need this extra money and other people could use it better than me spending it on shoes or something. I did ask my brother if he and Mom didn’t need it first, since they weren’t going to get money right away. He said no and gave me his blessing to give it away.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:44:12am

If these maps of the East Troublesome fire I’m looking at that were updated this morning are correct, several hundred structures have been destroyed. ☹️

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calochortus  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:44:14am

re: #175 teleskiguy

I’m safe, all major fire activity is to the east of me. Grand County, CO is looking at potentially cataclysmic catastrophe. Hasn’t been confirmed yet, but there’s reports the Grand Lake Lodge was destroyed.

This was inevitable. All the forests in Grand County were beetle-killed in the aughts, just endless stands of dark red tinder-dry forest that’s been waiting to burn. Yesterday all the elements for a horrible fire lined up. I’m pretty sure the state of Colorado has never seen 100,000 acres get torched in a day, I know I sure haven’t.

Damn. Just damn. I’m hoping CA will make it through the rest of fire season without anything major, but that doesn’t mean I just wanted it to move to CO.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:45:43am

re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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calochortus  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:46:23am

re: #179 mmmirele

I gave my stimulus check away to the local food bank and to people I knew could use it. I don’t consider myself special or holier than thou. My thought was that I was employed for the foreseeable future, I didn’t need this extra money and other people could use it better than me spending it on shoes or something. I did ask my brother if he and Mom didn’t need it first, since they weren’t going to get money right away. He said no and gave me his blessing to give it away.

Yeah, much of ours went to the local food bank, some to a couple other causes. We’re retired, so as much as we don’t enjoy being locked down, our financial situation hasn’t really changed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:47:09am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:47:39am

re: #175 teleskiguy

In local LOL news related to air quality, I punched up airnow.gov to see what the air quality is in the area.

I accidentally clicked on “allow location” on the Website. Today, I live in Urich, Missouri, a town of 505 people in the west central area near the Kansas line.

Urich doesn’t have air quality (no report).

Closer to home, in Scottsbluff it’s 19 right now, due to winds from the north.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:48:34am

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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CrookedHillary?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:51:00am

re: #177 teleskiguy

My wife just pointed me to what was then the largest fire in Colorado history, from when she lived in Colorado Springs.

The Hayman Fire was a forest fire started on June 8, 2002, 35 miles (56 km) northwest of Colorado Springs, Colorado and 22 miles (35 km) southwest of Denver, Colorado and was, for 18 years, the largest wildfire in the state’s recorded history at over 138,114 acres. During the 2020 wildfire season, the Pine Gulch Fire became the largest wildfire in state history. However, just 7 weeks later, the Cameron Peak Fire became the largest wildifire in Colorado history.

Hundreds of firefighters fought the fast-moving fire, which caused nearly $40 million in firefighting costs, burned 133 homes, 138,114 acres, and forced the evacuation of 5,340 people.

Smoke could be seen and smelled across the state from Vail, 55 miles (89 km) northwest, to Burlington, 188 miles (303 km) east, and from Broomfield, 50 miles (80 km) north, to Walsenburg, 130 miles (210 km) south.

The Hayman Fire burned from June 8, 2002, until it was classified as contained on July 18, 2002.[3] The cause of the wildfire was found to be arson.

en.wikipedia.org

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:51:38am

Season is changing. Heater switched on this morning for the first time since last April.

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:52:37am

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump’s Twitter account hacked after Dutch researcher guessed password

I guess ‘123456’ was taken.

/

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:53:33am

Ohio sheriff offers to help celebrities leave the U.S. if Trump wins reelection
NATIONAL
“Hell, I’ll even help them pack,” the sheriff said.

He needs to get himself ready to flee, together with thousands of other unregistered agents and GRU genocide tools.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:53:52am

re: #165 🌹UOJB!

More from our @CBS12 interview with Laura Loomer, who calls herself the “most banned woman in the world.” She is running for congress in FL District 21

Laura, a few ladies in the Middle East would like to have a word.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:55:48am

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

wonder if it was 12345

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:56:47am

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Jay C  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:57:54am

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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So do we think Trump’s Twitter password is/was so stupidly simple because:
A) Donald himself is stupid and simple?
B) Donald doesn’t want to deal with IT people who know better?
C) His IT people know he can’t remember anything more complex??
D) All of the above?

Personally, I would have thought it would have something he’d REALLY find easy to remember like “ivanka88“….*

*not the number I originally thought of

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:58:03am
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Targetpractice  Oct 22, 2020 • 8:59:25am

re: #192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

wonder if it was 12345

Or “password.” Or perhaps “guest.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:00:41am

re: #196 Targetpractice

Or “password.” Or perhaps “guest.”

Ivanka

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:01:04am

re: #197 I Would Prefer Not To

Ivanka

notmyresponsibility

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:01:11am

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sending a hug. I know all too well…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:01:19am

re: #192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

wonder if it was 12345

1488

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:02:34am

a rather significant point from yesterday’s electoral-vote.com regarding scotus’s handling of all these election cases so close to an election

…by virtue of a 4-4 split, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to overturn the ruling of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court that said that late mail-in ballots would be allowed for three days after the election, even without postmarks. In the moment, everyone’s focus was on the obvious move by Chief Justice John Roberts (who joined with the three liberals) to shore up his “just calling balls and strikes” reputation, and on the fact that this result will help the Democrats in a key(stone) state.

With 24 hours to reflect, however, some folks have noticed an extremely troubling undercurrent to this whole affair. CNN’s Joshua Douglas and Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern, among others, point out that the vote should have been 8-0, and not 4-4, since the Constitution is clear that elections are the province of the states, to manage (largely) as they see fit. The four non-Roberts conservatives have, in effect, announced that they are more than happy to ignore that principle, and to muck around in states’ handling of elections, even when it’s less than two weeks to Election Day. Once Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Thomas, and Alito get a fifth colleague who feels that way, they could wreak all sorts of havoc

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:02:51am

re: #192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

wonder if it was 12345

Maga2020. He previously got into Trump’s account with yourefired?

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mmmirele  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:03:18am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

1488

Not long enough. According to the article, the password was “maga2020!”

And on the subject of the Stahl interview with Trump:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:03:51am
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:04:14am

re: #179 mmmirele

I gave my stimulus check away to the local food bank and to people I knew could use it. I don’t consider myself special or holier than thou. My thought was that I was employed for the foreseeable future, I didn’t need this extra money and other people could use it better than me spending it on shoes or something. I did ask my brother if he and Mom didn’t need it first, since they weren’t going to get money right away. He said no and gave me his blessing to give it away.

Local food bank and a fund for small businesses set up by the city. My pension checks continue to arrive.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:05:13am

re: #204 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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He only likes being told he’s the best ever.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:05:20am

Parked in the Gulf of Paria for something like 2 years
1.3 million barrels onboard. That’s approximately five time the amount spilled by the Exxon Valdez.
Apparently offloading has been delayed by fear of US sanctions

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:06:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:07:04am

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of 60 Minutes and CBS. Tonight’s anchor, Kristen Welker, is far worse!

we feel sorry for someone in such a helpless, vulnerable position as yourself

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:07:27am

re: #201 dangerman

a rather significant point from yesterday’s electoral-vote.com regarding scotus’s handling of all these election cases so close to an election

It should be largely as they see fit as long as everyone who wants to vote gets to and there are safety measures to make sure that the vote gets counted properly. The problem is that Roberts doesn’t actually care about either of those. He just thinks it should be left to the states. Which is why a new VRA will not make it through his court.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:07:28am

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

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He’s already setting the tone for how he’s going to excuse shitting the bed tonight.

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:08:04am

*chef’s kiss*

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:08:57am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we feel sorry for someone in such a helpless, vulnerable position as yourself

Why does everybody make so much fun of me,
don’t they know that it hurts me so.
Can’t they see my heart is breaking on the inside,
where, oh where can I hide.

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:13:09am

Watching these two try to come back to NYC as if everything is fine is really going to be something to watch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:15:23am

re: #214 makeitstop

Watching these two try to come back to NYC as if everything is fine is really going to be something to watch.

Again, these dimwits tend to forget that there are Republicans in places like NY, CA, IL, etc…but since they cannot play any active role in getting Trump re-elected, they have been written off.

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Ming5000  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:15:26am

re: #236 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m back. Doing a set for a pop up comedy show. Thursday. 7PM ET.
All new material. Pay what you want.

bit.ly

I just received my Zoom invite. I have watched a few Stewart zoom presentations. They have been a lot of fun. Looking forward to a LIVE event.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:15:33am

re: #214 makeitstop

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Watching these two try to come back to NYC as if everything is fine is really going to be something to watch.

I hope the only time they come back is for their trials.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:18:26am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:18:32am

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Jay C  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:19:31am

re: #214 makeitstop

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Watching these two try to come back to NYC as if everything is fine is really going to be something to watch.

Yeah, somehow I don’t think Ivanka is going to be going back to her lunch dates with her besties Chelsea and Georgina…..*

*Clinton and Bloomberg - and yes, they were BFFs before 2016

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:22:07am

re: #220 Jay C

Yeah, somehow I don’t think Ivanka is going to be going back to her lunch dates with her besties Chelsea and Georgina…..*

*Clinton and Bloomberg - and yes, they were BFFs before 2016

If I was Ivanka, I’d probably just swear off eating in any NYC restaurant. You just know there are thousands of food prep workers who would love the opportunity to fuck with her order.

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gwangung  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:23:03am

re: #221 makeitstop

If I was Ivanka, I’d probably just swear off eating in any NYC restaurant. You just know there are thousands of food prep workers who would love the opportunity to fuck with their order.

They should, but I think they’re arrogant enough and stupid enough to think it’d never happen to them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:23:18am

re: #220 Jay C

Yeah, somehow I don’t think Ivanka is going to be going back to her lunch dates with her besties Chelsea and Georgina…..*

*Clinton and Bloomberg - and yes, they were BFFs before 2016

My hope is that they are publicly mocked for the rest of their lives. Let them live in the bubble/jail cell that they created. They don’t deserve a better life than the kids at the border locked in cages. Suffer bitches.

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:24:31am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

More Republicans voted in California than in AZ, AL, AR, and AK combined (for Dems and GOPers combined).

More GOPers voted in NY than all GOPers in AZ, AL, AR and AK combined.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:24:56am

re: #221 makeitstop

If I was Ivanka, I’d probably just swear off eating in any NYC restaurant. You just know there are thousands of food prep workers who would love the opportunity to fuck with her order.

Why do think Trump only eats only chain restaurant food ordered through a third party?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:24:59am

re: #214 makeitstop

Watching these two try to come back to NYC as if everything is fine is really going to be something to watch.

The folks at Lincoln Project aren’t our friends, but you really have to admire just how ruthless they are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:25:50am

re: #224 lawhawk

More Republicans voted in California than in AZ, AL, AR, and AK combined (for Dems and GOPers combined).

More GOPers voted in NY than all GOPers in AZ, AL, AR and AK combined.

But again, these guys are not able to help Trump get re-elected so fuck ‘em…

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:28:33am

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The folks at Lincoln Project aren’t our friends, but you really have to admire just how ruthless they are.

That’s true. And I consider it a good thing that they’re there. Hopefully some of that killer instinct will wear off on Democratic campaign consultants for the future. We’ll need it, I’m afraid.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:29:40am

I’m wondering how they thought this was a good idea

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:29:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:30:15am

re: #228 makeitstop

That’s true. And I consider it a good thing that they’re there. Hopefully some of that killer instinct will wear off on Democratic campaign consultants for the future. We’ll need it, I’m afraid.

The LP people will turn on Biden as soon as they can to try to re-establish their own party creds.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:32:54am

re: #230 teleskiguy

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Hopefully she loses and her stupid bar goes under too.

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Teukka  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:33:54am

re: #229 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m wondering how they thought this was a good idea

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:34:20am

re: #233 Teukka

Am I the only thing who when seeing “DT” don’t think Donald Trump but Delirium Tremens? ///

DoTard

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:34:28am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:35:53am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The LP people will turn on Biden as soon as they can to try to re-establish their own party creds.

True, but they will never have party creds. The party has become a racist/Q-anon party. It ain’t going to be “moderate” for years and years. The Lincoln Project are people without a party.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:36:23am

re: #233 Teukka

Am I the only thing who when seeing “DT” don’t think Donald Trump but Delirium Tremens? ///

I occasionally think “dr/” should precede it.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:37:41am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The LP people will turn on Biden as soon as they can to try to re-establish their own party creds.

They’re party creds under the current GOP are toast. They will only be able to go back when enough of the current leadership is gone. Which, btw, is what they want.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:38:02am

re: #236 I Would Prefer Not To

True, but they will never have party creds. The party has become a racist/Q-anon party. It ain’t going to be “moderate” for years and years. The Lincoln Project are people without a party.

Yeah they’re not going to be welcomed back with open arms after contributing to beating Trump. They’re also going after other Republicans as well too not just Trump. I don’t 100% trust them either but right now they’re allies until they prove otherwise. And I really think that Trump and especially his handling of this pandemic is going to define that party in the eyes of millions of voters in the years to come.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:38:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:39:04am

re: #236 I Would Prefer Not To

True, but they will never have party creds. The party has become a racist/Q-anon party. It ain’t going to be “moderate” for years and years. The Lincoln Project are people without a party.

If this turns into a major both-houses-and-the-presidency bloodbath for the GOP, there will be voices in the GOP urging a change of approach, if not necessarily a change of course or ideology.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:39:22am

re: #229 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:40:59am

re: #236 I Would Prefer Not To

True, but they will never have party creds. The party has become a racist/Q-anon party. It ain’t going to be “moderate” for years and years. The Lincoln Project are people without a party.

You said that way better than I was about to.

They going to be busy stomping out the remnants of Trumpism until at least the midterms.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:41:19am

Thing is there’s gonna be a Trump sized elephant in the room no matter how much he loses by. He’s going to continue to do these stupid rallies. Even if he doesn’t run, I bet he will have his son or daughter run as his natural heir.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:41:52am

“You’re so negative, you’re so negative…You just come in here with that negative attitude.”

Always with the negative waves, Moriarty. - YouTube22.flv

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:42:57am

re: #229 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m wondering how they thought this was a good idea

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Holy shit. That interview must be brutal. No wonder he stormed out.

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:43:21am

re: #244 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Thing is there’s gonna be a Trump sized elephant in the room no matter how much he loses by. He’s going to continue to do these stupid rallies. Even if he doesn’t run, I bet he will have his son or daughter run as his natural heir.

None of them are smart enough. Anyone named Trump running for office is in for a curb-stomping, IMO.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:44:27am

re: #243 makeitstop

You said that way better than I was about to.

They going to be busy stomping out the remnants of Trumpism until at least the midterms.

I think Trumpism is going to be impacting the party for at least three cycles. Remember, they were supposed to rebrand after Romney lost and they ended up with something far more ugly than what Romney ran and Romney ran the most xenophobic campaign a Republican presidential nominee had to that point. I didn’t vote for McCain and I had no love for W Bush either but they weren’t xenophobic assholes. In fact, if you ask me, the GOP’s beginnings going to the point where we are now is how they responded to Bush supporting immigration reform because Bush understandably thought he could make Hispanics a part of the GOP coalition.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:46:14am

re: #247 makeitstop

None of them are smart enough. Anyone named Trump running for office is in for a curb-stomping, IMO.

I very much agree. I do think they will be influencing the conversation. I honestly have no idea. The GOP just nominating the next man up ended after Trump got the nom four years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:46:28am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If this turns into a major both-houses-and-the-presidency bloodbath for the GOP, there will be voices in the GOP urging a change of approach, if not necessarily a change of course or ideology.

They chunked their “autopsy” after Romney’s loss.

They ignored Louisiana Governor Jindal saying they needed to stop being the stupid party.

After Michael Steele delivered for them a major electoral victory in 2010 to seize the Senate and finished his term at the RNC, several Republicans were outed as making racist comments about him saying why did they ever hire a ni*CLANG for their party?

Why should they change now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:47:04am

re: #246 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Holy shit. That interview must be brutal. No wonder he stormed out.

Brutal? Just the sort of thing that a journalist is supposed to do, not stand up and applaud his every talking point and accept his lies and unfounded claims.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:47:06am
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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:49:20am

re: #210 Belafon

It should be largely as they see fit as long as everyone who wants to vote gets to and there are safety measures to make sure that the vote gets counted properly. The problem is that Roberts doesn’t actually care about either of those. He just thinks it should be left to the states. Which is why a new VRA will not make it through his court.

that’s the point
plain text / originalist / whathaveyou
4 voted the other way

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:51:15am

re: #252 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Wingnuts crapping all over the thread like pigeons.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:51:39am

a thread. Read it.

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gwangung  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:52:07am

re: #255 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Two hands with the water.

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:52:23am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brutal? Just the sort of thing that a journalist is supposed to do, not stand up and applaud his every talking point and accept his lies and unfounded claims.

Looking at the reactions on Twitter, it’s starting to look like Trump ordered it released with the sole intention of fucking with CBS’ ratings.

He obviously thought that would be hitting them where they live. He gave zero thought to how bad it would make him look, though.

He even does the two-handed water drink during the interview. CBS probably would have edited that out!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:56:38am

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:57:00am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brutal? Just the sort of thing that a journalist is supposed to do, not stand up and applaud his every talking point and accept his lies and unfounded claims.

Oh, no, I agree - I’m actually very impressed, is what I was trying to say. There should be no sugar-coating of a man as vile as Donald J. Trump. Fuck access - when you get the shot, you TAKE IT, and then you PUBLISH IT.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:57:40am

re: #258 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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I’d rather hte Lincoln Project run the GOP than a vindictive hack like Laura who spent her college days outing gay classmates with her assclown friend DInesh D’Sousa.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:58:39am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:58:48am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:59:36am

re: #261 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I’ve never worried more about political terrorism in our country and Trump is 100% responsible for that. And it’s what sets him apart even from previously rotten Republican presidents.

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b.d.  Oct 22, 2020 • 9:59:50am

re: #252 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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LARRY BRIILIANT?!?!? FAKE NAME! FAKE NEWS! SARS!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:00:34am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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No one’s forcing Trump to continue to lie and mischaracterize shit. I miss Facebook when it wasn’t a circus for stupid political memes and talking points from people who don’t know politics from their assholes.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:01:45am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Your wife pees on the carpet?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:04:43am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:07:11am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:08:00am

re: #257 makeitstop

Looking at the reactions on Twitter, it’s starting to look like Trump ordered it released with the sole intention of fucking with CBS’ ratings.

He obviously thought that would be hitting them where they live. He gave zero thought to how bad it would make him look, though.

He even does the two-handed water drink during the interview. CBS probably would have edited that out!

So, we Democrats are going to be holding our breath until Nov. 4 & beyond thinking that 2016 is going to happen all over again because OF COURSE THE REPUBLICANS WILL PULL SOME TRICK OUT OF THEIR PANTS LIKE THEY DID 4 YEARS AGO.

The trick they pulled out of their pants was Jill Stein. (Did I mean that double entendre? Well yeah because she was a total part of the ratfuck op.)

Enough people voted 3rd party to throw Trump the majority of votes in 3 critical states. That was all they needed.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:09:07am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:09:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:10:12am

re: #263 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ve never worried more about political terrorism in our country and Trump is 100% responsible for that. And it’s what sets him apart even from previously rotten Republican presidents.

Hmmm… . the National Alliance, the Order, blowing up the Oklahoma City Federal Building, the Posse Comitatus, Montana Freedmen, Sagebrush Rebels …

Conservatives have been violent all my life.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:10:58am

re: #161 teleskiguy

Situation is very grim in Grand County, CO. The East Troublesome fire advanced more than 20 miles yesterday, scorched over 100,000 acres in less than 24 hours. Fire lines are less than two miles from the town of Grand Lake and the fire is now burning in Rocky Mountain National Park. Today’s weather forecast is more dry and windy conditions.

My friend’s family has a cabin overlooking Lake Grandby. We were there about 3 weeks ago. They are very concerned about losing the cabin. In the category of “How’s this for timing?”, because of the smoke from the Cameron Peak Fire, I asked my friend whether the fire insurance premium for the cabin was higher than for their houses in the Denver area. He said he didn’t know, and that there had never been a real threat before.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:11:02am

re: #256 gwangung

Yeah….he’s got either some kind of neurological damage or motor dysfunction.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:11:46am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

why aren’t conservatives funny
google.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:12:25am
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John Hughes  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:12:50am

re: #192 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

wonder if it was 12345

It was “maga2020!”

Really.

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:13:42am

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

Yeah….he’s got either some kind of neurological damage or motor dysfunction.

Both. One can cause the other.

The dude can’t get a grip.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:13:44am

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hmmm… . the National Alliance, the Order, blowing up the Oklahoma City Federal Building, the Posse Comitatus, Montana Freedmen, Sagebrush Rebels …

Conservatives have been violent all my life.

I think you’re missing my point. Trump encourages domestic political terrorism in a way that Reagan and the Bushes did not. It doesn’t make their presidencies less bad but Trump’s actions are what sets him apart.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:14:32am

“The enemy of my enemy” and all that… fuck that. These guys should be dropped like a hot potato when all is said and done.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:15:47am

Today’s random recognition of LGF karma points goes to Mike Lamb, with 16,392 points.

These can be used as a credit towards next year’s CPAC conference. /s

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:17:32am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:18:30am

re: #279 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think you’re missing my point. Trump encourages domestic political terrorism in a way that Reagan and the Bushes did not. It doesn’t make their presidencies less bad but Trump’s actions are what sets him apart.

Reagan explicitly called himself a Sagebrush Rebel in campaign stops. He launched his campaign on the site of a lynching of civil rights workers in Mississippi.

Trump may not be as adept at dog whistles, but Reagan was every bit as bad with both violence and racism (young bucks collecting welfare, welfare queens having babies to get more welfare, &c).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:19:29am
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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:20:02am

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

Yeah….he’s got either some kind of neurological damage or motor dysfunction.

At the event where those photos were taken - where he came out and said no stimulus deal - he looked like he could barely walk. He kind of baby-stepped his way to the podium.

McConnel is another ghoul who I won’t mourn when he goes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:21:14am

re: #285 makeitstop

At the event where those photos were taken - where he came out and said no stimulus deal - he looked like he could barely walk. He kind of baby-stepped his way to the podium.

McConnel is another ghoul who I won’t mourn when he goes.

Wing mourn? I’ll cheer that fuckers passing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:23:30am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Reagan explicitly called himself a Sagebrush Rebel in campaign stops. He launched his campaign on the site of a lynching of civil rights workers in Mississippi.

Trump may not be as adept at dog whistles, but Reagan was every bit as bad with both violence and racism (young bucks collecting welfare, welfare queens having babies to get more welfare, &c).

Gonna to just agree to disagree. I just think the amount of political violence directly inspired by this president is unprecedented. I remember the Bush years. I never worried about unhinged Bush supporters going after John Kerry and other critics of Bush nor did I think Bush wanted violence against them. It’s a low bar but it’s the difference between a F and a 0 which is imo the important albeit subtle difference between Trump and his worst predecessors.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:23:42am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:25:48am

re: #287 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fair enough.

re: #288 Dread Pirate Ron

They really are bad at this.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:26:18am

re: #276 The Pie Overlord!

Grandma Bacon’s Pear Bundt Cake Recipe!

thesouthernladycooks.com

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:26:39am

Snowflake.

‘You don’t ask Biden tough questions.’ Fuckin’ baby.

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gwangung  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:26:59am

re: #280 teleskiguy

“The enemy of my enemy” and all that… fuck that. These guys should be dropped like a hot potato when all is said and done.

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We’re not doing this to make friends. We’re using them as tactics to get us a specific goal. The moment they stop being useful is the moment we split from them.

We need to be more cold blooded in politics and not treat it like an affirmation.

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b.d.  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:28:32am

re: #284 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Not much sympathy for you CBS News, your industry is the reason he is where he is.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:28:45am

FFS.

So I’m watching Stephanie Ruhle this morning and there was a segment on undecided voters. They were in Atlanta interviewing three black women in their 30s. They were mad that Joe hasn’t apologized for the crime bill that was signed into law when they were in elementary school (he already apologized and said it was a mistake), that he hasn’t talked about income inequities in the black community (its on his damned website and he’s spoken about it recently a few times), and that Kamala did some terrible things when she was AG, locking people up for pot ,and she hasn’t apologized(google Kamala Harris AG Decisions and you get all wingnut websites in the first 10 links). They all said they would vote down ticket and leave the Presidential race blank if they didn’t see something addressing their CONCERNS before election day. I see this all the time online, “Joe hasn’t told us his plan for-insert concern here- and I can’t vote for someone who has no plan”. WHEN ITS ON THE DAMNED WEBSITE IN CLEAR LANGUAGE.

I’m not black. I have only been discriminated against for being a woman and while homeless in my teens (it was assumed I was a sex worker or an addict or deserved to be thrown out of my family). I have no idea what it feels like to have my community wrecked by racism and shitty policy decisions. But god damnit. If you are really that fucking short sighted, just stay the fuck home. Americans are fucking lazy as fuck. Most people honestly think that voting is the end of their civic duty and that one person in office can accomplish everything by themselves. Hence the “Joe was in office for 40 plus years, what did he get done?” Yes, all by themselves, a senator can just whip up any law they want and POOF! it’s magically over and done. I just am so done with this short sighted horseshit. We aren’t engaged as a nation politically, which is how we got Trump and allowed him to take the divides already there and blow them the fuck up into hatred and violence.

I swear, if I do manage to find a way to get onto the county school board, I am lobbying the fuck out of getting civics back into the school curriculum. This just annoys the living shit out of me if you haven’t guessed.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:31:16am

re: #189 makeitstop

I guess ‘123456’ was taken.

/

Trump should change it to something nobody who knows him would ever guess. Like ‘Iacceptresponsibility’

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:31:48am

re: #294 A Mom Anon

FFS.

So I’m watching Stephanie Ruhle this morning and there was a segment on undecided voters. They were in Atlanta interviewing three black women in their 30s. They were mad that Joe hasn’t apologized for the crime bill that was signed into law when they were in elementary school (he already apologized and said it was a mistake), that he hasn’t talked about income inequities in the black community (its on his damned website and he’s spoken about it recently a few times), and that Kamala did some terrible things when she was AG, locking people up for pot ,and she hasn’t apologized(google Kamala Harris AG Decisions and you get all wingnut websites in the first 10 links). They all said they would vote down ticket and leave the Presidential race blank if they didn’t see something addressing their CONCERNS before election day. I see this all the time online, “Joe hasn’t told us his plan for-insert concern here- and I can’t vote for someone who has no plan”. WHEN ITS ON THE DAMNED WEBSITE IN CLEAR LANGUAGE.

I’m not black. I have only been discriminated against for being a woman and while homeless in my teens (it was assumed I was a sex worker or an addict or deserved to be thrown out of my family). I have no idea what it feels like to have my community wrecked by racism and shitty policy decisions. But god damnit. If you are really that fucking short sighted, just stay the fuck home. Americans are fucking lazy as fuck. Most people honestly think that voting is the end of their civic duty and that one person in office can accomplish everything by themselves. Hence the “Joe was in office for 40 plus years, what did he get done?” Yes, all by themselves, a senator can just whip up any law they want and POOF! it’s magically over and done. I just am so done with this short sighted horseshit. We aren’t engaged as a nation politically, which is how we got Trump and allowed him to take the divides already there and blow them the fuck up into hatred and violence.

I swear, if I do manage to find a way to get onto the county school board, I am lobbying the fuck out of getting civics back into the school curriculum. This just annoys the living shit out of me if you haven’t guessed.

I think the ‘94 Crime Bill is one of the most mischaracterized legislations of the last 30 years and honestly I blame Sanders who voted for it for doing that with people under 30 and people who don’t understand policy. Was it perfect legislation? No, but it’s made out to be an intentional racially discriminatory law which is horseshit.

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:33:53am

re: #294 A Mom Anon

Ruhle is trying so hard to make it a horse race with suspense.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:34:08am

Thread with photos and video

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:35:09am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:35:30am

re: #297 wrenchwench

Ruhle is trying so hard to make it a horse race with suspense.

I really am hoping a lot of political journalists get discredited because of their narratives on this election. I’ve thought this for some time and I think the data supports it. Biden has consistently been beating Trump. The pandemic has just amplified that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:36:20am

Finally watched the Biden Town Hall. He’s a natural with people.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:36:23am
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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:36:24am
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KGxvi  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:36:33am

re: #296 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think the ‘94 Crime Bill is one of the most mischaracterized legislations of the last 30 years and honestly I blame Sanders who voted for it for doing that with people under 30 and people who don’t understand policy. Was it perfect legislation? No, but it’s made out to be an intentional racially discriminatory law which is horseshit.

The 90s were a weird time, politically - especially the first half of the decade. And the crime bill was absolutely a product of it’s time. I don’t think some like it could pass today, but our society has changed quite a bit (for the better, I think) since then.

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Belafon  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:36:46am

re: #280 teleskiguy

“The enemy of my enemy” and all that… fuck that. These guys should be dropped like a hot potato when all is said and done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:37:01am

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

So, we Democrats are going to be holding our breath until Nov. 4 & beyond thinking that 2016 is going to happen all over again because OF COURSE THE REPUBLICANS WILL PULL SOME TRICK OUT OF THEIR PANTS LIKE THEY DID 4 YEARS AGO.

They will pull out something unprecedented and unabashedly outrageous in its sheer in-your-face blatant brutal fuckery. Because Trump has nothing to lose.

And whereas in 2016 he only had criminal organizations (the RNC, the Trump Organization and Soviet Intelligence) to back him up, this time he has the full powers of the Executive Branch up his voluminous sleeves.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:37:23am

re: #296 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s been used as an excuse for other shitty policy choices for a long damned time. But if you ask people what’s in it, they cannot tell you anything other than it meant police could invade black communities and only applied to those places. We have had a police and racism issue in this country since the first police forces formed to bring emancipated and escaped slaves back to the South. I need to lobby for history classes too, lol. God this is frustrating. I wish to god that these damned news channels would interview an actual democratic/liberal voter like me, but they probably wouldn’t like my answers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:37:31am

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

Enough people voted 3rd party to throw Trump the majority plurality of votes in 3 critical states. That was all they needed.

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:37:48am

re: #300 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really am hoping a lot of political journalists get discredited because of their narratives on this election. I’ve thought this for some time and I think the data supports it. Biden has consistently been beating Trump. The pandemic has just amplified that.

I had to google her. She’s a business reporter, not even political.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:38:02am

re: #285 makeitstop

At the event where those photos were taken - where he came out and said no stimulus deal - he looked like he could barely walk. He kind of baby-stepped his way to the podium.

McConnel is another ghoul who I won’t mourn when he goes.

I have a feeling that if he’s gone come next January, someone in the Trump inner circle is gonna spill the beans about his overall health condition.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:38:58am

re: #304 KGxvi

The 90s were a weird time, politically - especially the first half of the decade. And the crime bill was absolutely a product of it’s time. I don’t think some like it could pass today, but our society has changed quite a bit (for the better, I think) since then.

I don’t either. I just think so much of how we understand and discuss criminal justice issues comes with hindsight bias. I’m definitely left leaning on CJ issues but even I get why people support the death penalty, three strikes laws, etc.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:39:43am

re: #291 makeitstop

Snowflake.

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‘You don’t ask Biden tough questions.’ Fuckin’ baby.

Tough is anything that doesn’t pump his ego and let him freebase an answer

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:39:58am

re: #307 A Mom Anon

It’s been used as an excuse for other shitty policy choices for a long damned time. But if you ask people what’s in it, they cannot tell you anything other than it meant police could invade black communities and only applied to those places. We have had a police and racism issue in this country since the first police forces formed to bring emancipated and escaped slaves back to the South. I need to lobby for history classes too, lol. God this is frustrating. I wish to god that these damned news channels would interview an actual democratic/liberal voter like me, but they probably wouldn’t like my answers.

We need to teach history better. I honestly would love to teach it but I’m a shitty teacher.

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KGxvi  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:39:58am

re: #305 Belafon

One of the hallmarks of good conservativism is recognizing that something they opposed is actually good when it works.

It’s also interesting because I think a lot of the Lincoln Project folks are Republicans because that’s just what they’ve “always” been. But at least listening to Rick Wilson on both With Friends Like These and The New Abnormal, he seems to be socially moderate if not liberal on a whole host of issues. That may not be the case for all of them, but from what I’ve gathered there seems to be some real disgust for the SoCons.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:39:59am

re: #310 Dr Lizardo

You gotta be pretty fucking evil to continue to operate like he does, obviously ill and determined to destroy the fuck out of everything before you take a dirt nap. It seems to be a thing with these assholes.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:40:58am

re: #313 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah, but you could help write some kick ass text books.

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wrenchwench  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:42:04am

re: #313 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We need to teach history better. I honestly would love to teach it but I’m a shitty teacher.

Sounds weird, but teaching can be learned.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:42:23am

re: #268 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:42:26am

re: #315 A Mom Anon

You gotta be pretty fucking evil to continue to operate like he does, obviously ill and determined to destroy the fuck out of everything before you take a dirt nap. It seems to be a thing with these assholes.

I think Trump will have an episode of narcissistic rage if he loses - makes no difference whether it’s a big loss or a small one - because America will have rejected him.

And he’ll lash out, seeking to burn it all to the ground in revenge.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:43:46am

I mean guys I have to deal with people who act like Biden was a warmonger over Iraq. I disagreed with Biden’s vote and I even participated in anti war rallies but to say Biden and the Bush administration had the same position on Iraq? Well that’s revisionist bullshit and a lot of the new left types around my age who came into politics after 2008 just aren’t informed. The neocons were wrong about Iraq but I fear a lot of wrong lessons about FP are taken from Iraq and that’s to never intervene.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:45:23am

re: #294 A Mom Anon

FFS.

So I’m watching Stephanie Ruhle this morning and there was a segment on undecided voters. They were in Atlanta interviewing three black women in their 30s. They were mad that Joe hasn’t apologized for the crime bill that was signed into law when they were in elementary school (he already apologized and said it was a mistake), that he hasn’t talked about income inequities in the black community (its on his damned website and he’s spoken about it recently a few times), and that Kamala did some terrible things when she was AG, locking people up for pot ,and she hasn’t apologized(google Kamala Harris AG Decisions and you get all wingnut websites in the first 10 links). They all said they would vote down ticket and leave the Presidential race blank if they didn’t see something addressing their CONCERNS before election day. I see this all the time online, “Joe hasn’t told us his plan for-insert concern here- and I can’t vote for someone who has no plan”. WHEN ITS ON THE DAMNED WEBSITE IN CLEAR LANGUAGE.

I’m not black. I have only been discriminated against for being a woman and while homeless in my teens (it was assumed I was a sex worker or an addict or deserved to be thrown out of my family). I have no idea what it feels like to have my community wrecked by racism and shitty policy decisions. But god damnit. If you are really that fucking short sighted, just stay the fuck home. Americans are fucking lazy as fuck. Most people honestly think that voting is the end of their civic duty and that one person in office can accomplish everything by themselves. Hence the “Joe was in office for 40 plus years, what did he get done?” Yes, all by themselves, a senator can just whip up any law they want and POOF! it’s magically over and done. I just am so done with this short sighted horseshit. We aren’t engaged as a nation politically, which is how we got Trump and allowed him to take the divides already there and blow them the fuck up into hatred and violence.

I swear, if I do manage to find a way to get onto the county school board, I am lobbying the fuck out of getting civics back into the school curriculum. This just annoys the living shit out of me if you haven’t guessed.

They were probably Bernie supporters — and there are still long-time BernieBots who are doing their best to kneecap Biden so they can claim that Bernie would have won as they did in 2016.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:45:52am

re: #317 wrenchwench

Sounds weird, but teaching can be learned.

Yeah true. I’m a better writer than I am speaker though. I do have a great idea for a history project though. I’d have my students create a four generation family tree and have them bring in unique food from a state or country their family are from.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:45:59am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Mitch’s hand?

1) Lovenox from DVT OR
2) Dialysis treatments?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:46:06am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Night of the Living Senate

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KGxvi  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:46:22am

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

Enough people voted 3rd party to throw Trump the majority of votes in 3 critical states. That was all they needed.

A lot of people voted 3rd party in 2016. While, yes, many who voted for Stein probably would have voted for Clinton if Stein wasn’t on the ballot - I suspect some would simply not have voted.

The same can be said for those who voted for Johnson and/or McMullin. A lot of them might have otherwise gone for Trump, and there were plenty of states where Clinton won by less than the share of the Johnson/McMullin vote. Plus those states that we suppose Clinton would have won without Stein had relatively high Johnson/McMullin voters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:48:29am

Biden has one big asset, namely that people tend to like him. Hillary did not have that. In fact, I will admit that I did not and do not like her, but I certainly found her the best candidate in 2016.

But the fact that Biden is so affable and human means that the crap they are hurling at him does not stick as it did to Hillary.

That is really messing up the GOP strategy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:48:40am

re: #316 A Mom Anon

Yeah, but you could help write some kick ass text books.

I wonder how you get such a job. What I want to do with history and this at its core is why I love genealogy is to make it relatable. I see the Civil War not just in its national implications but also through a young Hessian immigrant, the Potato Famine through a toddler, or the changes in interwar Europe through stateless people.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:49:00am

Rest In Peace Amazing Randi. He spent his entire life debunking charlatans and cons like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Jim Bakker, and Oral Roberts.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:49:43am

It’s rather weird and amazing that @CaslerNoel has spilled endless amounts of tea about the Trump Crime Family™ and *not once* has any of them called him out.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:50:06am

re: #321 Hecuba’s daughter

We have DSA members going all out for Howie Hawkins because they just can’t bring themselves to vote for “Corporate Ho-Jo”“. These are the same folks who went full sexist on me because I supported and voted for Warren in the primary.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:50:14am

re: #314 KGxvi

It’s also interesting because I think a lot of the Lincoln Project folks are Republicans because that’s just what they’ve “always” been. But at least listening to Rick Wilson on both With Friends Like These and The New Abnormal, he seems to be socially moderate if not liberal on a whole host of issues. That may not be the case for all of them, but from what I’ve gathered there seems to be some real disgust for the SoCons.

Molly Jong-Fast also works with Rick Wilson on The New Abnormal.

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Teukka  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:50:21am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Had a fall and is on Warfarin? Alternatively, given locations of bandaids, being a difficult person to get a line going on and nurses had to try several times (I was a wee bit bluish after they tried 4x to get a line going during my hospital stay).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:51:21am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:51:50am

Jeez. Play by play. Thread.

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KGxvi  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:51:55am

re: #331 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Molly Jong-Fast also works with Rick Wilson on The New Abnormal.

I hadn’t really heard of Molly Jong-Fast until the podcast. I really like her, might have to pick up a couple of her books after the election when I can enjoy things like fiction again.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:52:06am

re: #294 A Mom Anon

FFS.

So I’m watching Stephanie Ruhle this morning and there was a segment on undecided voters. They were in Atlanta interviewing three black women in their 30s. They were mad that Joe hasn’t apologized for the crime bill that was signed into law when they were in elementary school (he already apologized and said it was a mistake), that he hasn’t talked about income inequities in the black community (its on his damned website and he’s spoken about it recently a few times), and that Kamala did some terrible things when she was AG, locking people up for pot ,and she hasn’t apologized(google Kamala Harris AG Decisions and you get all wingnut websites in the first 10 links). They all said they would vote down ticket and leave the Presidential race blank if they didn’t see something addressing their CONCERNS before election day. I see this all the time online, “Joe hasn’t told us his plan for-insert concern here- and I can’t vote for someone who has no plan”. WHEN ITS ON THE DAMNED WEBSITE IN CLEAR LANGUAGE.

I’m not black. I have only been discriminated against for being a woman and while homeless in my teens (it was assumed I was a sex worker or an addict or deserved to be thrown out of my family). I have no idea what it feels like to have my community wrecked by racism and shitty policy decisions. But god damnit. If you are really that fucking short sighted, just stay the fuck home. Americans are fucking lazy as fuck. Most people honestly think that voting is the end of their civic duty and that one person in office can accomplish everything by themselves. Hence the “Joe was in office for 40 plus years, what did he get done?” Yes, all by themselves, a senator can just whip up any law they want and POOF! it’s magically over and done. I just am so done with this short sighted horseshit. We aren’t engaged as a nation politically, which is how we got Trump and allowed him to take the divides already there and blow them the fuck up into hatred and violence.

I swear, if I do manage to find a way to get onto the county school board, I am lobbying the fuck out of getting civics back into the school curriculum. This just annoys the living shit out of me if you haven’t guessed.

when i hear these kind of vagueries that are passed off as intelligent thought, i want followup questions to find out if these people are just regurgitating basic talking points they ‘heard’ or if they have actual detailed knowledge of the issues they are ‘concerned’ about:

- can you explain in detail and with specific examples, what your problems with the crime bill are…

- when you say “income inequities in the black community” give some examples of what specifically a presidential candidate should be saying 10 days before election day

- can you explain in detail and with specific examples or case names of what “terrible things” Harris did when she was AG.

and finally, we all know that in a two person race, if you don’t vote FOR biden that’s at least a 1/2 vote for trump. So why do you think trump is a better bet to address your concerns than Biden?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:52:07am
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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:52:23am

re: #330 🌹UOJB!

We have DSA members going all out for Howie Hawkins because they just can’t bring themselves to vote for “Corporate Ho-Jo”“. These are the same folks who went full sexist on me because I supported and voted for Warren in the primary.

“If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:52:39am

re: #337 Charles Johnson

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He’s too online.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:54:03am

re: #339 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s too online.

People around him have stopped even trying to tell him anything he does not want to hear.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:54:09am

re: #317 wrenchwench

Sounds weird, but teaching can be learned.

Seconded

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:54:35am

re: #335 KGxvi

I hadn’t really heard of Molly Jong-Fast until the podcast. I really like her, might have to pick up a couple of her books after the election when I can enjoy things like fiction again.

She is the daughter of Erica Jong (“Fear of Flying”). She has been a writer for a long time on subjects regarding sex, politics (sometimes those are the same thing), feminist and liberal issues.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:55:42am

re: #321 Hecuba’s daughter

No mention of Bernie, but that crossed my mind as they were being interviewed. There aren’t too many third party choices this time around, Jo Jorgenson was on the ballot, but there has not been an ad or TV appearance here so no one knows who the hell she is. I think one of the GA house seats had a libertarian candidate, but I ignored everyone but democrats this time. The Libertarians only pop up in presidential years to syphon off votes which makes me wonder who funds them. And where that money goes beyond a few yard signs.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:56:38am

This needs to be in ads NOW. Dems should be shouting it from the rooftops.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:58:00am

re: #330 🌹UOJB!

We have DSA members going all out for Howie Hawkins because they just can’t bring themselves to vote for “Corporate Ho-Jo”“. These are the same folks who went full sexist on me because I supported and voted for Warren in the primary.

Democratic Socialists in disarray.

There is a definite different vibe in the Lincoln and Omaha DSA; they are disappointed in not getting what they wanted, but they are all in on Biden, working get-out-the-vote drives, &c.

They are more pragmatic about this: To move the Overton Window left, you have to start by moving it left. Letting it slide further right because you didn’t get as much left as you want just makes it harder.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:58:19am

re: #337 Charles Johnson

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The effing president of the United States. *** and we all know this is true***

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:58:21am

re: #343 A Mom Anon

No mention of Bernie, but that crossed my mind as they were being interviewed. There aren’t too many third party choices this time around, Jo Jorgenson was on the ballot, but there has not been an ad or TV appearance here so no one knows who the hell she is. I think one of the GA house seats had a libertarian candidate, but I ignored everyone but democrats this time. The Libertarians only pop up in presidential years to syphon off votes which makes me wonder who funds them. And where that money goes beyond a few yard signs.

The initial funding for the Libertarian Party came from the Kochs, Bass and Hunt families in the 70s. Now the funding comes from the Peter Thiel types.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:58:32am

re: #334 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

LOL

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 22, 2020 • 10:59:55am

re: #336 dangerman

when i hear these kind of vagueries that are passed off as intelligent thought, i want followup questions to find out if these people are just regurgitating basic talking points they ‘heard’ or if they have actual detailed knowledge of the issues they are ‘concerned’ about:

- can you explain in detail and with specific examples, what your problems with the crime bill are…

- when you say “income inequities in the black community” give some examples of what specifically a presidential candidate should be saying 10 days before election day

- can you explain in detail and with specific examples or case names of what “terrible things” Harris did when she was AG.

and finally, we all know that in a two person race, if you don’t vote FOR biden that’s at least a 1/2 vote for trump. So why do you think trump is a better bet to address your concerns than Biden?

I’m a minimalist. “Not voting is voting for the status quo. Buh-bye, magat.”

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:00:35am
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KGxvi  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:00:59am

re: #344 Kilroy was here

What I’ve never understood is that he has constantly said “we need to strike it down in the courts before we pass a new law” and yet NO FUCKING PERSON INTERVIEWING HIM HAS BOTHERED TO FUCKING POINT OUT THAT THIS IS ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOT THE WAY THE FUCKING SYSTEM WORKS

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:01:08am

re: #343 A Mom Anon

Here the Libertarian candidate for US Senate may syphon off some votes from Ben Sasse (but not enough to make a difference). Jorgeson is on the ballot here as well. There is also a Libertarian running for the natural resources district board here, which is a frightening thought but probably won’t win.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:01:33am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:01:42am

re: #340 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People around him have stopped even trying to tell him anything he does not want to hear.

Because his advisors really aren’t so much advisors these days but lackeys. Someone like Meadows would be just another backbencher if this was Jeb or even an empty suit like Rubio’s administration.

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:02:09am

“This is the most profound undermining of the civil service in our lifetimes,” American Federation of Government Employees President Everett Kelley said in a statement. “The president has doubled down on his effort to politicize and corrupt the professional service.

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KGxvi  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:02:47am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Here the Libertarian candidate for US Senate may syphon off some votes from Ben Sasse (but not enough to make a difference). Jorgeson is on the ballot here as well. There is also a Libertarian running for the natural resources district board here, which is a frightening thought but probably won’t win.

The only Libertarian worth supporting this election cycle is the guy running for Senate in Arkansas. And that is only for 2 reasons:

1. He is running against Tom fucking Cotton, and;
2. There is no Democrat on the ballot

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Camp Waconda  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:02:49am

re: #344 Kilroy was here

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This needs to be in ads NOW. Dems should be shooting it from the rooftops.

What a weird self-own right before his last debate. Not complaining, but still.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:04:41am
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KGxvi  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:04:53am

re: #357 Camp Waconda

What a weird self-own

That is the Trump presidency in four words

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:04:59am

re: #329 teleskiguy

It’s rather weird and amazing that @CaslerNoel has spilled endless amounts of tea about the Trump Crime Family™ and *not once* has any of them called him out.

That’s always puzzled me, too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:06:51am

re: #353 jaunte

It’s more than that. The relevant section of the executive order (which I’m betting is actually unenforceable):

Pursuant to my authority under section 3302(1) of title 5, United States Code, I find that conditions of good administration make necessary an exception to the competitive hiring rules and examinations for career positions in the Federal service of a confidential, policy-determining, policy-making, or policy-advocating character. These conditions include the need to provide agency heads with additional flexibility to assess prospective appointees without the limitations imposed by competitive service selection procedures. Placing these positions in the excepted service will mitigate undue limitations on their selection. This action will also give agencies greater ability and discretion to assess critical qualities in applicants to fill these positions, such as work ethic, judgment, and ability to meet the particular needs of the agency. These are all qualities individuals should have before wielding the authority inherent in their prospective positions, and agencies should be able to assess candidates without proceeding through complicated and elaborate competitive service processes or rating procedures that do not necessarily reflect their particular needs.

It would also allow the President to discriminate, for example against minorities or LGBT.

I hope Joe Biden is keeping track of all these orders to rescind.

whitehouse.gov

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:07:49am

re: #348 Dread Pirate Ron

“Where’s my ice cream, goddammit? Why didn’t you bring me any ice cream?! This interview is over!!”

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:07:59am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s more than that. The relevant section of the executive order (which I’m betting is actually unenforceable):

It would also allow the President to discriminate, for example against minorities or LGBT.

I hope Joe Biden is keeping track of all these orders to rescind.

whitehouse.gov

first day, first order: “Everything that last guy did is bullshit”

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:08:33am

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jaunte  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:08:40am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“conditions of good administration make necessary”

So every previous administration was less good than this one.

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teleskiguy  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:10:48am

re: #364 teleskiguy

Deleted this. Almost forgot about the debate tonight, which is being held in Nashville.

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dangerman  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:11:11am
“I hope that they end it. It will be so good if they end it because we will come up with a plan.”

— President Trump, telling 60 Minutes that he hopes the Supreme Court will strike down the Affordable Care Act.

said it out loud, again

the plan that, three months ago, would be revealed in “two weeks”

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A Mom Anon  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:12:59am

re: #366 teleskiguy

That was still a fucking campaign ad. Or part of one. Who does that? A desperate loser. I mean it was produced with background music and slow motion in parts. If he was normal, it would have been a tweet maybe and that’s it.

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b.d.  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:13:45am

WHAT KIND OF MILKSHAKE IS BIDEN DRINKING?

Yours….

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:13:54am

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She is the daughter of Erica Jong (“Fear of Flying”). She has been a writer for a long time on subjects regarding sex, politics (sometimes those are the same thing), feminist and liberal issues.

Molly’s Grandfather is Howard Fast. Writer/Communist who went before the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

She has had an interesting life.

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TedStriker  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:18:03am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So WarnerArchive puts on their Youtube channel the opening of the pilot Babylon 5:

[Embedded content]

I notice it is a different cut than what we prior got in the US on digital distribution outlets.

Also, it seems the deinterlacing is better. Even on Amazon Prime the pilot and early episodes show off interlacing effects, which become prominent as the graphics back then didn’t dither edges as well as today.

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sigh, I’ve never seen the show, only a few clips here and there. It is not available on Hulu. It’s $109.84 for the five seasons and the movies.

amazon.com

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have only seen fits and snatches as well. I had assumed it was another Star Trek spin-off but I gather it has nothing to do with them at all.

re: #57 Jack Burton

Damn it… I just typed up a novel of a post on how great Babylon 5 was (and DS9 is great too) and I accidentally bumped my mouse and hit the back button. So I lost it.

Just by coincidence, here’s a video on DS9 and B5, just done a couple of days ago, by one of my favorite YTers/podcasters:

Is Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Actually a Rip Off of Babylon 5?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:19:36am

re: #363 dangerman

first day, first order: “Everything that last guy did is bullshit”

It’s clear he is doing this to purge the civil service of everyone who has stood in his way to establish a dictatorship.

And we know who the first person to be purged will be—Doctor Fauci!

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lawhawk  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:20:35am

re: #348 Dread Pirate Ron

Trump gets asked… what’s his favorite flavor, and he can’t even come up with one.

Trump. Is. A. Sociopath.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:22:28am

Tonight is going to be the mother of all clusterfucks.

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TedStriker  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:23:32am

re: #374 I Would Prefer Not To

Tonight is going to be the mother of all clusterfucks.

Don’t I know it? I live in Nashville, where Belmont University is (and work right down the road from it)…

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William Lewis  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:23:50am

re: #371 TedStriker

Far preferred DS9 to BS5. Better written, better production and moments like “root beer” or when Sisko deletes his log because he’s ashamed of lying the Romulans onto the federations side in the Dominion war.

BS5 had a lot of quips and one liners. But in the end, I remember very little of the show. OTOH, I watched DS9 only intermittently (due to life) but remember much more of it.

Here’s that moment again:

DS9 Garak drinks root beer (The Way of the Warrior)

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Mike Lamb  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:27:14am

re: #374 I Would Prefer Not To

Tonight is going to be the mother of all clusterfucks.

I’m tempted to rubber neck it.

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:27:27am
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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:28:30am

re: #377 Mike Lamb

I’m tempted to rubber neck it.

I’ll just follow on Twitter and here.

Haven’t watched Trump on purpose in over 4 years, I’m not about to start now.

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makeitstop  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:31:29am

Sarah Cooper, using her powers for good. This is a really good spot.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:35:14am

re: #255 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

a thread. Read it.

[Embedded content]

That is how my kids grasped their cups when they were first learning how to drink from them.

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NetworkKed  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:40:39am

re: #376 William Lewis

Far preferred DS9 to BS5. Better written, better production and moments like “root beer” or when Sisko deletes his log because he’s ashamed of lying the Romulans onto the federations side in the Dominion war.

BS5 had a lot of quips and one liners. But in the end, I remember very little of the show. OTOH, I watched DS9 only intermittently (due to life) but remember much more of it.

DS9 did have far better production values, on all levels. B5 space scenes looked to be generated in a (good-for-the-era) graphics workstation, with lots primitive shapes and (to the modern eye) really cringe-y textures. Costumes were mostly better, aliens were better on DS9.

But the writing… no. Don’t get me wrong - DS9 is by far the best written Star Trek ever, and the individual episode writing in the last few seasons was truly amazing. But so much of it is just generic NG-era Trek. The non-Federation characters are the ones who stand out, and even their arcs are mostly abbreviated.

If you hate the main storylines of B5, that’s fair. I think the entire series would work better with no human psychics at all. But the rise and fall of human fascism, the Centauri colonial collapse, the time loops, the elder races breaking everything around them, the galactic slide into chaos and (overly) messianic figures standing against it, all combines into a grand epic which outshines pretty much everything. (I would argue new-BSG came close, but it choked at the very last.)

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Nojay UK  Oct 22, 2020 • 11:51:34am

re: #382 NetworkKed

Both DS5 and Babylon 5 suffered, in the end, from the problem that most SF of all types has that humans need to be front and centre in the story for humans to be interested in paying for it, to watch it or read it. To Babylon 5’s credit they made the aliens more powerful, more intelligent, more capable but in the end it was a human that became the prophesied Godhead for no particular reason other than TV ratings. Look at most SF films, the current flood of superhero movies etc. and it’s Humanity Uber Alles because that’s the way the audience is wired.

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Axolotl  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:12:10pm

re: #303 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

I would like to here what Charles has to say on this topic. He went on a similar journey (perhaps without the heinous stuff).

At what point is the transformation complete?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 22, 2020 • 12:44:57pm

re: #201 dangerman

a rather significant point from yesterday’s electoral-vote.com regarding scotus’s handling of all these election cases so close to an election

It should haven ever gotten that far. Thomas should have denied the request right off the bat. (I think it was Thomas)


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