Mark Knopfler - Going Home: Theme of the Local Hero (17th Oct 2020)

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Mark Knopfler performs ‘Going Home: Theme Of The Local Hero’ at Goodwood SpeedWeek as a tribute to the late Formula One driver, Sir Stirling Moss.

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279 comments

1
Belafon  Oct 25, 2020 • 8:56:22pm
2
A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 25, 2020 • 8:57:28pm

Also, FT and GOTV.

3
William Lewis  Oct 25, 2020 • 9:03:49pm

I look at this and it doesn’t seem right. I remember the Mark Knopfler of “Alchemy” and those 80’s videos. Not this elderly gent. But then I close my eyes and just listen and he’s better than ever and everything’s all right in the world.

4
plansbandc  Oct 25, 2020 • 9:04:59pm

re: #3 William Lewis

Very similar thoughts. We all got old. Sigh.

5
Ace Rothstein  Oct 25, 2020 • 9:07:03pm

I’ve had Trump shut off for the last couple of weeks, and I can not tell you how much better life is. Hopefully, in nine days, this shit is over, and I won’t have to worry about another four year of this terrorist.

6
Belafon  Oct 25, 2020 • 9:13:55pm
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cat-tikvah  Oct 25, 2020 • 9:37:15pm

My Democratic senator Bob Casey live on C SPAN speaking against Barrett’s rushed nomination and the threat to the ACA.

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William Lewis  Oct 25, 2020 • 9:45:09pm

Any of the guitar people still around? I’ve been pondering adding an acoustic guitar to my life but the budget will be slim.

What’s the best bang/buck for a cheapish guitar?

9
Belafon  Oct 25, 2020 • 9:48:47pm
10
Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 25, 2020 • 10:05:24pm

5% is bad, 15.9% is disastrous.

11
BeachDem  Oct 25, 2020 • 10:06:07pm

re: #9 Belafon

[Embedded content]

We didn’t know at all,
We didn’t see a thing.
You can’t hold us to blame,
What could we do?
It was a terrible shame,
But we can’t bear the blame.
Oh no, not us, we didn’t know.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 25, 2020 • 10:07:34pm

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

5% is bad, 15.9% is disastrous.

[laughs in Czech] We’re at something like a 30%+ positive test rate here.

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retired cynic  Oct 25, 2020 • 10:10:44pm

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

5% is bad, 15.9% is disastrous.

Areas in IL have to stay below 8% in order to be able to stay on the level of openness they are in. NW IL, in the corner near IA and WI, it has gone above that, and they have been dialed back. Probably not accepting it well! Gov. Pritzker has maintained an even keel, while being sued and vilified unmercifully.

14
Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 25, 2020 • 10:14:30pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 25, 2020 • 10:27:10pm

NWS was right about wind in California, it’s getting windy from the north here. I have a hill on the north that goes up from my back fence about 30’ high with 2-story houses on top blocking but I’m still seeing 17 mph gusts. Summer ended Wednesday with the last 95F, now we’re down around 68-74F. I just got used to warm, I don’t like this cold.

Just had my battery backup kick in for a second. I should hear a wires arcing call on the scanner soon.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 25, 2020 • 11:36:58pm
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 25, 2020 • 11:57:41pm

re: #8 William Lewis

Any of the guitar people still around? I’ve been pondering adding an acoustic guitar to my life but the budget will be slim.

What’s the best bang/buck for a cheapish guitar?

I’m not really a guitar person, but I ran across this a while back, and the reviews are good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 12:01:34am

re: #8 William Lewis

Any of the guitar people still around? I’ve been pondering adding an acoustic guitar to my life but the budget will be slim.

What’s the best bang/buck for a cheapish guitar?

Cannot say much regarding brand, but there are two things to look for: a solid top (not plywood) and geared tuning pegs (not the open mesh gears) Those two things make a ton of difference in sound and playability.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 12:07:09am

re: #9 Belafon

The right has a new thing self-described faction, “InCons,” or “involuntary conservatives,” folks forced into voting for Trump by liberal extremism. Which sounds exactly like what Southerns demanding massive resistance said about their response Brown v. Board of Education.

Come join the swelling ranks of the InContinent!

20
Barefoot Grin  Oct 26, 2020 • 12:20:53am

Sweet. Local Hero is one of my all time favs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 12:28:52am

re: #17 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

I’m not really a guitar person, but I ran across this a while back, and the reviews are good.

Features a Spruce Top
Laminated Nato back & sides.
Satin Finish
Chrome covered Tuning Machines
Rosewood Fretboard

check and check!

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2020 • 12:45:55am

Excellent information. Thank you!

23
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 1:06:04am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 1:43:48am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 1:59:27am

I’m watching Good Morning, Veronica on Netflix. It was kinda meh through the beginning but the end of episode 1 hooked me.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:03:08am

Thread from the UK on Tory austerity:

Foraging.

I can’t even.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:21:17am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:23:08am

6,453 square miles of California burned so far this year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:25:33am

re: #26 Sherlock Hound

Thread from the UK on Tory austerity:

[Embedded content]

Foraging.

I can’t even.

at least they’re not in cages…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:27:58am

A friend of mine in London has taken up with the Hare Krishnas. She is not that terribly heavily into the spiritual aspect, she just appreciates the company and community, people who can gather and have fun without alcoholic or drugged excess and she helps with food distribution as their policy is that nobody living within ten city blocks of a HK temple should ever go hungry.

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Nojay UK  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:42:58am

re: #26 Sherlock Hound

It’s not real, it’s exaggeration for satiric effect. The “Tory scum” gives it away — a Labour MP recently got a dressing-down for calling the Tories “scum” in Parliament even though they were just saying out loud what everyone else thinks. Myself I consider them to have been overly polite.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:46:51am
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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:49:12am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:54:58am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:56:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 2:59:31am

re: #35 Patricia Kayden

Lesley Stahl: Giant health care book in Trump interview had “no comprehensive health care plan”

It was the health-care equivalent of The Wall.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:00:11am

Life on the water is never dull.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:05:57am

day 5 of the 100 miles in 10 day challenge

and im off

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:14:35am

I was gonna make some snarky comment, but this is getting close to schadenfreude overdose territory:

Several big names at Fox News Channel have been advised to quarantine after a fellow passenger on a private charter flight from New York City to Nashville for the presidential debate tested positive for Covid, including Fox News Media President Jay Wallace, chief political anchor Bret Baier, anchor of “The Story” Martha MacCallum, and two of the hosts of “The Five,” Dana Perino and Juan Williams.

The news was broken late Sunday evening by the New York Times, reporting that everyone who was on the flight has been advised to get tested and to quarantine.

Fox News has not publicly confirmed the story, citing the need to protect confidential personal health information, but the network’s affected anchors are reportedly making plans to host their shows from their homes this week.

As the Times noted, while some of Fox’s on-air commentators have “not always treated the coronavirus like the serious and potentially fatal illness that it is,” the network’s operations have shown a serious dedication to precautionary measures during this pandemic, including diligent use of face masks, avoiding close proximity to each other, and regular testing of staff members.

mediaite.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:18:04am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:25:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:39:51am

Looks like Putin is throwing Donnie under the bus….

Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Sunday that he saw nothing criminal in Hunter Biden’s past business ties with Ukraine or Russia, marking out his disagreement with one of Donald Trump’s attack lines in the U.S. presidential election.

Putin was responding to comments made by Trump during televised debates with Democratic challenger Joe Biden ahead of the Nov. 3 election.

Trump, who is trailing in opinion polls, has used the debates to make accusations that Biden and his son Hunter engaged in unethical practices in Ukraine. No evidence has been verified to support the allegations, and Joe Biden has called them false and discredited.

nbcnews.com

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:45:03am
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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:45:04am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was the health-care equivalent of The Wall.

We don’t need no health care plan
We don’t need no cost-control.
No Covid-testing for the staffroom.
Hey, Doctor, leave those poor alone.

45
Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:46:46am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:58:20am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 4:07:07am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2020 • 4:12:23am

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Did he say “I’ve got a permit”? So if you have a permit you get to point your gun at anyone you want for any reason? These mental midgets are going to be the end of this nation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 4:21:15am

re: #48 Eventual Carrion

Did he say “I’ve got a permit”? So if you have a permit you get to point your gun at anyone you want for any reason? These mental midgets are going to be the end of this nation.

He was threatened by militant feminism and was standing his ground.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2020 • 4:21:28am

re: #41 Dread Pirate Ron

I think it is more like having to write an eight page term paper, and only have enough information for four pages. Gotta quadruple space.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:06:57am

Wholly shyte!

Thread, six tweets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:09:24am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The woman beside Mike Pence is Republican activist Renea Turner who plans to kidnap Republican Ohio Gov Mike DeWine, put him on trial for tyranny so can be executed or exiled

It’s almost as if kidnapping governors is being mainstreamed as normal political activity…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:17:31am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s almost as if kidnapping governors is being mainstreamed as normal political activity…

Republicans closely resemble autocratic parties in Hungary and Turkey - study (The Guardian)

With a Nolan chart showing the shift of the GOP into fascist territory over the decades. In the same period, the study shows the Democratic Party staying in the centre-left area, near Germany’s SDP.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:18:28am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s almost as if kidnapping governors is being mainstreamed as normal political activity…

The thread goes into all the news reports implicating Ohio Republican legislators in the plot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:18:31am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

With a Nolan chart showing the shift of the GOP into fascist territory over the decades. In the same period, the study shows the Democratic Party staying in the centre-left area, near Germany’s SDP.

GOP has been off the charts since before Trump…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:19:36am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sounds like state representative John Becker there is, by his own admission, guilty of plotting terrorist activities, sedition, kidnapping and premeditated homicide.

I’m an optimist - and personally, I think this matter can be settled without too much fuss…..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:27:28am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like state representative John Becker there is, by his own admission, guilty of plotting terrorist activities, sedition, kidnapping and premeditated homicide.

I’m an optimist - and personally, I think this matter can be settled without too much fuss…..

This doofus Becker is also the person who introduced a bill in the Ohio House to require reimplantation of an embryo from ectopic pregnancy into uteri.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:29:51am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:30:36am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

I see your airborne missile attack, and raise you a ground missile salvo

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:32:10am

Today’s conservative parrot talking point, brought to you by Mr. Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:35:57am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today’s conservative parrot talking point, brought to you by Mr. Trump.

coming from a man who once referred to his own wife as “Melanie

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:42:04am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

coming from a man who once referred to his own wife as “Melanie

And referred to 9/11 as 7-11.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:42:16am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:44:01am

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

Failing and flailing. He must be drenched in flopsweat.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:45:10am

Surprising no one:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:45:57am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And referred to 9/11 as 7-11.

and to god-knows-what as “covfefe”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:53:45am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:57:16am

Today, exactly 100 years after Margaret Sanger was arrested for running a birth control clinic, Amy Coathanger Barrett will be confirmed to the Supreme Court.

blog.oup.com

Birth-control champion Margaret Sanger and two other women were arrested on October 26, 1916, when police entered the Brooklyn, New York, birth-control clinic that Sanger had started.

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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2020 • 5:57:45am

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

30% of the Utah covid19 hospitalizations are ICU-related. That pushes ICU capacity above 100% at SLC’s main hospital. SLC is a regional hospital, which takes patients from 5 nearby states because of its central location (and the lack of hospital resources in those other states that are closer to where these people actually live).

We were saying all along that people in rural America would be fucked because they have fewer hospital beds and once covid19 strikes deep into those areas, they’d face bed shortages and limits on care to a greater degree than other places.

7 day moving average for Utah is now 1500+ cases a day. That’s the opposite of having the pandemic under control. And we see this in practically every state. They’re losing containment in places like NY and NJ and states that were doing badly are doing even worse now. Not enough people are masking and social distancing, and the biggest problem is that officials are going to lack the will to close things back down because people are out of patience with a disease that Trumpworld still and never will take seriously. Had we followed the fucking playbook, we wouldn’t be in this position and Trump would be cruising to a reelection win.

Instead, he’s done gone fucked everything up, and his base thinks this is a win.

300,000+ excess deaths.
230,000+ official deaths.

States warning hospitals are exceeding ICU capacity, and we’re not even in the height of flu season yet (reminder: get your fecking flu shots to minimize chances of having to deal with flu during covid pandemic). Hospitals are struggling even now, and Trumpworld thinks it’s all dandy and that it’s personal failures that killed 230,000+ Americans, and not the lack of testing and a national mandate to mask/social distance.

Hint: it’s the latter. Every other country that imposed adequate testing and masking/social distancing mandates has done better than the US on minimizing deaths, illnesses, and economic damage. We’ve done worse and the recovery has been slower - all because of Trump’s know nothing approach.

But have no fear. Trump’s latest right wing extremist judicial pick will be seated on the Supreme Court before Election Day. Priorities.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:02:14am

re: #69 lawhawk

The first intake question should be “have you attended a trump rally?” and if answered Yes, send them home.

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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:09:14am

random raccoon

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:10:32am

re: #70 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The first intake question should be “have you attended a trump rally?” and if answered Yes, send them home.

Call it triage.

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mmmirele  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:17:48am

re: #69 lawhawk

I keep wondering if there’s a way we can make her life so terribly, terribly unpleasant that she resigns.

I know that’s an awful thing to say, but you know, I also remember life before Roe v Wade and I for damnsure am not going back there willingly.

I’d suggest organizing protests on hearing days at the Supreme Court—and yes, actually in chambers while cases are being heard—white women like me standing up and telling Amy Coney Barrett to resign—except we’re in the middle of a pandemic and the Court is not meeting publicly.

I really want Barrett to understand how much she is hated and despised and she’d do well to slink back to Indiana and her religious cult before she damages the country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:19:59am

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Call it triage.

triMAGAge

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:20:43am
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lawhawk  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:24:46am

re: #75 The Pie Overlord!

So, one less donor to right wing causes. Gotcha.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:28:06am

OMG! This thread. It’s still going.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:29:03am
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b.d.  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:30:21am

Tight!

Really ready for Trump to implode further!

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:35:08am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today’s conservative parrot talking point, brought to you by Mr. Trump.

[Embedded content]

He also called you abraham lincoln

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:36:47am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today’s conservative parrot talking point, brought to you by Mr. Trump.

[Embedded content]

“And I will hug him and squeeze him and call him George.”

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:37:07am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:38:14am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Surprising no one:

[Embedded content]

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:38:38am
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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:40:14am

re: #69 lawhawk

30% of the Utah covid19 hospitalizations are ICU-related. That pushes ICU capacity above 100% at SLC’s main hospital. SLC is a regional hospital, which takes patients from 5 nearby states because of its central location (and the lack of hospital resources in those other states that are closer to where these people actually live).

We were saying all along that people in rural America would be fucked because they have fewer hospital beds and once covid19 strikes deep into those areas, they’d face bed shortages and limits on care to a greater degree than other places.

7 day moving average for Utah is now 1500+ cases a day. That’s the opposite of having the pandemic under control. And we see this in practically every state. They’re losing containment in places like NY and NJ and states that were doing badly are doing even worse now. Not enough people are masking and social distancing, and the biggest problem is that officials are going to lack the will to close things back down because people are out of patience with a disease that Trumpworld still and never will take seriously. *****Had we followed the fucking playbook, we wouldn’t be in this position and Trump would be cruising to a reelection win.*****

Instead, he’s done gone fucked everything up, and his base thinks this is a win.

300,000+ excess deaths.
230,000+ official deaths.

States warning hospitals are exceeding ICU capacity, and we’re not even in the height of flu season yet (reminder: get your fecking flu shots to minimize chances of having to deal with flu during covid pandemic). Hospitals are struggling even now, and Trumpworld thinks it’s all dandy and that it’s personal failures that killed 230,000+ Americans, and not the lack of testing and a national mandate to mask/social distance.

Hint: it’s the latter. Every other country that imposed adequate testing and masking/social distancing mandates has done better than the US on minimizing deaths, illnesses, and economic damage. We’ve done worse and the recovery has been slower - all because of Trump’s know nothing approach.

But have no fear. Trump’s latest right wing extremist judicial pick will be seated on the Supreme Court before Election Day. Priorities.

The starred part

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:47:36am

so it took over a quarter million dead to get Trump out of office? That is twice as many as died in WW1…and more than half of what we lost in WW2

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:49:34am

re: #79 b.d.

Tight!

Really ready for Trump to implode further!

[Embedded content]

Doesn’t Georgia voting Machines have the special new unexamined Kemp-approved software?

Pretty sure that’ll keep Democrats from winning anything.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:49:58am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so it took nearly a quarter million dead to get Trump out of office? That is twice as many as died in WW1…and more than half of what we lost in WW2

He’s not gone yet. There’s lots of fuckery yet to be overcome.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:50:47am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:51:57am
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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:54:43am

re: #89 Belafon

[Embedded content]

Note who campaigns for trump:. Only people he’s paid or is paying in one way or another

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 6:55:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:00:25am

Senate Democrats are holding the Senate floor for the entire thirty hours of debate McConnell limited the Barrett hearing to. (thread, with videos)

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:02:07am

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) was interviewed by Jonathan Swan on Axios on HBO:

CRUZ: I’m very worried about the debt…Now, to be fair, Trump didn’t campaign on cutting the debt.

SWAN: He did. He said he was gonna eliminate the national debt in 8 years

.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:04:37am
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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:05:12am

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:08:07am

re: #87 sagehen

Doesn’t Georgia voting Machines have the special new unexamined Kemp-approved software?

Pretty sure that’ll keep Democrats from winning anything.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:12:34am

Mandatory on today’s news (4:16)

Eat Shit Bob! - Last Week Tonight, with John Oliver

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:13:14am

Because they got what they wanted. Fucking hell.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:14:08am

re: #99 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Because they got what they wanted. Fucking hell.

[Embedded content]

Yep. They have accomplished the mission they’ve been hell-bent on achieving for nearly 40 years. Now it’s time to pretend to be religious again.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:18:35am

re: #99 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Because they got what they wanted. Fucking hell.

[Embedded content]

But they won’t keep it if Democrats take control and fix what they did.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:22:31am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:24:54am

re: #102 jaunte

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Every white person without a sense of what racism means just nodded their head in agreement.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:25:23am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:30:11am

re: #103 Belafon

Every white person without a sense of what racism means just nodded their head in agreement.

This is exactly the attitude of garbage racist tenement owners who don’t give a shit about the people who pay way too much of their earnings in rent.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:30:12am

my favorite lyric this week:

Well I’ve loved a million women
In a belladonic haze

Queen - Keep Yourself Alive

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:30:13am

re: #104 jaunte

ared on black folks: “President Trump’s policies are the policies that can help people break out of the problems that they’re complaining about but he can’t want them to be successful more than that they want to be successful “

“They’re poor because they’re lazy!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:31:30am

re: #106 dangerman

my favorite lyric this week:

Well I’ve loved a million women
In a belladonic haze

Queen - Keep Yourself Alive

belladonna, a variety of poison nightshade, was used as a beauty treatment because it dilated the pupils, made the skin pale but flushed the cheeks, the 18-the century standard of beauty…

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:32:02am

Don’t miss that Kushner claims a “groundswell of support in the Black community” which will likely appear when Trump’s health care plan does.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:32:24am

re: #101 Belafon

But they won’t keep it if Democrats take control and fix what they did.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:33:33am

@4everNeverTrump

In fairness, Jared Kushner’s definition of success is using his dad’s name to buy an old office building nobody wants to lease space in and then using the power of his access to the Presidency to get a bailout from corrupt emirs in the Persian Gulf.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:39:33am
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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:43:35am

re: #104 jaunte

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tell us exactly and with specific references, what “policies” are these and also with examples, how ‘people’ don’t want to be successful

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:44:50am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“They’re poor because they’re lazy!”

‘they’ sure get motivated to vote when you put roadblocks in their way

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:49:49am

They may be senior citizens, but damn, they still got it…

AC/DC - Shot In The Dark (Official Video)

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A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:53:10am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

They may be senior citizens, but damn, they still got it…

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Hey! I’m a senior citizen and I’ve still got it! I just can’t remember where I put it.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:57:29am

re: #111 jaunte

@4everNeverTrump

In fairness, Jared Kushner’s definition of success is using his dad’s name to buy an old office building nobody wants to lease space in and then using the power of his access to the Presidency to get a bailout from corrupt emirs in the Persian Gulf.

Well, to be REALLY fair, buying that old office building was only part of Jared’s Master Plan: Having (over)paid $1.2B for it in the first place, it would only have required another billion or so to knock it down, and replace it with a properly gaudy Trumpian Temple Of Crass. Of course, he didn’t have any more money anyway, and no place to get it, and couldn’t even pay his original loans off without that corrupt bailout, but Hey! What are problems for if not to be overcome??

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:00:18am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:06:16am

😳🤢🤮

Not for the faint of heart.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:09:28am

George Washington’s laptop? Any hidden emails on it?

FROM: GWash#1
@realdonaldtrump

I muft thouroughley Commend and endorfe the Sterling record of Mifter Donald J. Trump in the Office of Prefident Of the United States: having been the One who hath Made America in the firft place, I muft Applaud his Diligent efforts to Make It Great Again, and urge all Worthy Citizens to caft their votes onley for him.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:15:35am

re: #119 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I….have never seen anyone’s legs break like that. Ouch.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:15:39am

It turns out when you send Mark Meadows on television on Sunday to say “we surrender,” the entire stock market tanks on Monday morning.

Even gold is down.

marketwatch.com

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plansbandc  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:16:03am

re: #119 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yeah, that’s not optimal. Reminds me of the vid of the girl who tried to jump off the roof into the pool. That one was both ankles. :(

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:17:40am

mitch acknowledging they’re gonna lose

“A lot of what we’ve done over the last four years will be undone, sooner or later, by the next election,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Sunday after the 51-48 procedural vote against Democratic objections. “But they won’t be able to do much about this for a long time to come.”

— Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), quoted by NBC News, on the coming vote to confirm Amy Coney Barrett’s nomination to the Supreme Court.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:18:34am

re: #124 dangerman

“But they won’t be able to do much about this for a long time to come.”

Watch.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:18:49am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It turns out when you send Mark Meadows on television on Sunday to say “we surrender,” the entire stock market tanks on Monday morning.

Even gold is down.

marketwatch.com

we’ve now come to accept 800+ day swings as not entirely ‘un-normal’ or panic worthy

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:21:12am

re: #123 plansbandc

Yeah, that’s not optimal.

Ya think? 😂😂😂😂😂

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:22:32am

For anyone worried that the race may be “tightening”, Trump’s odds of winning on fivethirtyeight.com remain at 12%, the same as on October 17. In contrast, on October 31, 2016, 8 days out from the election, the race had been tightening for two weeks, and Trump’s odds had already improved to 25%, on their way to peaking at 35%. Wikileaks and James Comey aren’t riding to Trump’s rescue, and he now has a record of profound failure he can’t defend with lies.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:23:52am

re: #127 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ya think? 😂😂😂😂😂

I watched that a few times, but I’ll be damned if I can figure out how on earth that happened.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:23:53am

This sycophant needs to be ratioed into the sun.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:24:01am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It turns out when you send Mark Meadows on television on Sunday to say “we surrender,” the entire stock market tanks on Monday morning.

Even gold is down.

marketwatch.com

I googled Dow to see how bad it was. This seems… appropriate.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:24:07am

re: #128 NO SMOCKING GUN!

For anyone worried that the race may be “tightening”, Trump’s odds of winning on fivethirtyeight.com remain at 12%, the same as on October 17. In contrast, on October 31, 2016, 8 days out from the election, the race had been tightening for two weeks, and Trump’s odds had already improved to 25%, on their way to peaking at 35%. Wikileaks and James Comey aren’t riding to Trump’s rescue, and he now has a record of profound failure he can’t defend with lies.

Mrs. Fish is absolutely paranoid that the Democrats are resting on their laurels and that Trump will still pull out a win. I am trying to remind her regularly that unlike 2016, there is no voter apathy toward Biden, and everyone feels such a strong sense of urgency to get rid of this douchecanoe that they are pressing to vote by any means possible.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:25:16am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From the tweet:

And why does fact-based optimism evoke hate & anger?

Because 250,000 AMERICANS ARE DEAD, and you’re telling us that you literally don’t give a shit and are just sitting on your hands waiting for someone else to produce a vaccine to fix the problem!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:25:32am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

I watched that a few times, but I’ll be damned if I can figure out how on earth that happened.

He had to be double joints or something. That was unnatural.

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plansbandc  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:25:45am

This dude does animations of stories from my favorite podcast, “My Favorite Murder.”

I love all of them.

This one is his newest. It’s about the giant skeletons Home Depot sold for lawn decorations this year…

My Favorite Murder ANIMATED - Giant Skeleton

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:27:44am

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish is absolutely paranoid that the Democrats are resting on their laurels and that Trump will still pull out a win. I am trying to remind her regularly that unlike 2016, there is no voter apathy toward Biden, and everyone feels such a strong sense of urgency to get rid of this douchecanoe that they are pressing to vote by any means possible.

People have been voting like crazy. I haven’t seen any sign of complacency, or much interest in 3rd party candidates.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:28:11am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:29:17am

re: #136 NO SMOCKING GUN!

People have been voting like crazy. I haven’t seen any sign of complacency, or much interest in 3rd party candidates.

It’s the after votes I’m worried about.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:29:22am

re: #71 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:31:36am

re: #128 NO SMOCKING GUN!

For anyone worried that the race may be “tightening”, Trump’s odds of winning on fivethirtyeight.com remain at 12%, the same as on October 17. In contrast, on October 31, 2016, 8 days out from the election, the race had been tightening for two weeks, and Trump’s odds had already improved to 25%, on their way to peaking at 35%. Wikileaks and James Comey aren’t riding to Trump’s rescue, and he now has a record of profound failure he can’t defend with lies.

further:

biden has a bit larger and way more consistent leads in mich, Wisc, and penna, than hillary did

you’re right, there won’t be a ‘comey’

and remember the 2016 ‘surprise’ was everyone assuming clinton would win those three and no one was polling there. there’s lots of polling there this time, and there’s also the correction for level of education

there should be no ‘surprises’

otoh, there are still lots of ways other than merely counting to see who got the most votes, that they can muck up the election. no polling can account for that

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:32:16am

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish is absolutely paranoid that the Democrats are resting on their laurels and that Trump will still pull out a win. I am trying to remind her regularly that unlike 2016, there is no voter apathy toward Biden, and everyone feels such a strong sense of urgency to get rid of this douchecanoe that they are pressing to vote by any means possible.

I think there are still groups out there she could help with to make sure more people get out to vote. I keep getting texts from people saying “I see you’ve voted. Can you encourage 3 more people to vote?” When I tell them “I have gotten six to vote, with two more to go” they reply “But are there three other people you can get to vote?” In my case, the answer is no. I don’t have a lot of friends I could push, but I know a lot of people I don’t want voting because I know they’ll vote for Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:33:06am

re: #137 jaunte

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Trump has been lying that he has a great plan for four years. That is plainly obvious to noncultists and people who pay attention. If Trump is still President when the Court strikes down the ACA, tens of millions of people will lose their coverage partially or entirely with no chance of getting it restored.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:33:10am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This sycophant needs to be ratioed into the sun.

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…er because you’re trying to spin this and ER visits per se are not an indication of the COVID trend

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:36:32am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This sycophant needs to be ratioed into the sun.

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pssst…. scott:

The seven-day moving average of new daily coronavirus cases stood at 68,767 after Sunday — a level not seen since the highest peak in late July, according to CNN’s analysis of data by Johns Hopkins University.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:36:34am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

I watched that a few times, but I’ll be damned if I can figure out how on earth that happened.

Looks like ACLS and/or MCLs in both legs tore allowing his knees to bend as they should not.

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:36:51am

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

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So yeah…a bad case of “both sides same thing.” Given her outlook, is there anything I can mention or angle I can take that might lead her to reconsider, or should I just accept that some so-called “never-trumpers” will forever make “Dems just as bad” excuses to themselves?

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:37:45am

re: #136 NO SMOCKING GUN!

People have been voting like crazy. I haven’t seen any sign of complacency, or much interest in 3rd party candidates.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:39:58am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

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So yeah…a bad case of “both sides same thing.” Given her outlook, is there anything I can mention or angle I can take that might lead her to reconsider, or should I just accept that some so-called “never-trumpers” will forever make “Dems just as bad” excuses to themselves?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:40:30am

re: #145 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Looks like ACLS and/or MCLs in both legs dropped allowing his knees to bend as they should not.

Oof. I looked that up and suddenly, my knees began spontaneously aching. Gaaah, I can’t even imagine that.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:41:15am

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish is absolutely paranoid that the Democrats are resting on their laurels and that Trump will still pull out a win. I am trying to remind her regularly that unlike 2016, there is no voter apathy toward Biden, and everyone feels such a strong sense of urgency to get rid of this douchecanoe that they are pressing to vote by any means possible.

My sister, who already voted for Biden, is terrified that FFVCS has some superpower to pull off another 2016. I explained that his “superpower” 4 years ago was 3rd party votes. Yeah that’s not happening again.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:42:24am

re: #126 dangerman

we’ve now come to accept 800+ day swings as not entirely ‘un-normal’ or panic worthy

800 points is not particularly noteworthy when the starting base is 28,000. What matters is the percentage drop not the point drop.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:42:31am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

[Embedded content]

So yeah…a bad case of “both sides same thing.” Given her outlook, is there anything I can mention or angle I can take that might lead her to reconsider, or should I just accept that some so-called “never-trumpers” will forever make “Dems just as bad” excuses to themselves?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:43:46am

re: #149 Dr Lizardo

Oof. I looked that up and suddenly, my knees began spontaneously aching. Gaaah, I can’t even imagine that.

Humans are not flamingos. Except for that guy.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:45:04am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:45:55am

re: #140 dangerman

further:

biden has a bit larger and way more consistent leads in mich, Wisc, and penna, than hillary did

you’re right, there won’t be a ‘comey’

and remember the 2016 ‘surprise’ was everyone assuming clinton would win those three and no one was polling there. there’s lots of polling there this time, and there’s also the correction for level of education

there should be no ‘surprises’

otoh, there are still lots of ways other than merely counting to see who got the most votes, that they can muck up the election. no polling can account for that

If Biden wins a 10 point victory, there just isn’t any way Trump can cheat enough to turn that around. Since every state votes differently, a one size fits all conspiracy can’t work.

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:46:15am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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garzooma  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:46:33am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

I just saw an article on the Atlantic “How We Got Voters to Change Their Mind.”
I just skimmed through it, but it might provide some insights. A couple of points:

Research has shown time and again that people vote from an emotional place. It’s not so much that facts don’t matter. It’s that facts and talking points do not change minds.

but:

We don’t try to directly persuade people to change their minds on a candidate or an issue. Rather, we create intimacy, in the faith that people have an ability to reexamine their politics, and their long-term worldview, if given the right context. We’ve found that when people start to see the dissonance between what they believe and what they actually want, their views change—many of them come around to a more progressive perspective.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:49:46am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

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So yeah…a bad case of “both sides same thing.” Given her outlook, is there anything I can mention or angle I can take that might lead her to reconsider, or should I just accept that some so-called “never-trumpers” will forever make “Dems just as bad” excuses to themselves?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:50:53am

re: #156 Interesting Times

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:52:21am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

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So yeah…a bad case of “both sides same thing.” Given her outlook, is there anything I can mention or angle I can take that might lead her to reconsider, or should I just accept that some so-called “never-trumpers” will forever make “Dems just as bad” excuses to themselves?

Is there some way to discuss COVID-19 and how Trump mishandled it from the beginning? With his dismantling the pandemic team, pulling doctors out of China, etc ? Maybe pointing out that both Bush 43 and Obama were very concerned about pandemics and worked on establishing protocols to prevent one from developing. How we have now lost over 225,000 Americans and Trump doesn’t care. Would that be an approach that might work on her?

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ericblair  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:52:54am

Big, muscular pollsters, who never cried since they were babies, saying “sir, sir”…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:52:57am

re: #158 dangerman

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:54:56am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

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So yeah…a bad case of “both sides same thing.” Given her outlook, is there anything I can mention or angle I can take that might lead her to reconsider, or should I just accept that some so-called “never-trumpers” will forever make “Dems just as bad” excuses to themselves?

Maybe some coverage about the FBI arresting Boogaloos for murder and arson at BLM protests; they’re trying to help Trump pin the violence on the left, and hoping to start a civil war.

Minnesota, Oregon, California, Texas… google will give you more details of available FBI press releases and news coverage.

Plus the kidnap plots against Governors in Michigan, Virginia and Ohio. All by right-wingers.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:56:39am

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If Biden wins a 10 point victory, there just isn’t any way Trump can cheat enough to turn that around. Since every state votes differently, a one size fits all conspiracy can’t work.

exactly
and moreso, it’s actually not even the states, but the counties - well more than 3000 of them

but if you want to panic, politico is there for ya

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A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:57:09am

re: #146 Interesting Times

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piratedan  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:57:11am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

I have a page posted that outlines each crappy decision point and the choices made… feel free to review it. If you need to, you could likely find a media source that looks at each decision point…

I believe that there is even an ad out there that outlines the development of the Pandemic and the administrative response, or lack thereof.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:59:52am

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish is absolutely paranoid that the Democrats are resting on their laurels and that Trump will still pull out a win. I am trying to remind her regularly that unlike 2016, there is no voter apathy toward Biden, and everyone feels such a strong sense of urgency to get rid of this douchecanoe that they are pressing to vote by any means possible.

Dems are not resting on anything, but again, Trump is criminal and desperate and has a lot of resources at his disposal. He is not above doing anything to avoid losing.

We must keep that in mind until the final results are tallied and announced.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:01:27am

re: #156 Interesting Times

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Also, if the economy is a big deal to her… Moody’s, Goldman, and all the others are predicting better economic growth and stock market growth under Biden than Trump (if I’m correctly estimating her mindset, WSJ and Forbes coverage of those forecasts would be most persuasive).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:01:42am

re: #146 Interesting Times

Need advice from The Lizard Collective® about what (if anything) I can meaningfully say in response to some rather disappointing comments from an “undecided” friend : ( Background and details below:

So yeah…a bad case of “both sides same thing.” Given her outlook, is there anything I can mention or angle I can take that might lead her to reconsider, or should I just accept that some so-called “never-trumpers” will forever make “Dems just as bad” excuses to themselves?

Simply: Your argument is “both sides same thing.” All that other stuff is just going around your elbow to get to your asshole.

If you cannot see how both sides aren’t the same thing, I cannot help you. If pardoning war criminals, ripping infants from mothers arms to deport the mother and kidnap the child, denying asylum, teargassing protestors to hold a Bible upside down at a church, if a quarter million dead can’t help you choose, then I can’t help you choose.

Then cut that person out of your life.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:05:53am

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish is absolutely paranoid that the Democrats are resting on their laurels and that Trump will still pull out a win. I am trying to remind her regularly that unlike 2016, there is no voter apathy toward Biden, and everyone feels such a strong sense of urgency to get rid of this douchecanoe that they are pressing to vote by any means possible.

Not sure who is “resting on their laurels”, but the national Democratic campaign people sure aren’t. For many days now, my email inbox has been flooded with panicky solicitations from my BFFs Joe, Kamala, Barack, Michelle, Aunt Nancy, Uncle Chuck, and a whole raft of Democratic guest-stars: all of whom seem to be acting as if the polls have suddenly flipped 88-12 to Trump. And exhorting the faithful to GOTV and do something about it (and contribute, of course).
I can’t really say I blame them, though: “2016 PTSD” really is a justified thing….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:06:53am

re: #170 Jay C

Not sure who is “resting on their laurels”, but the national Democratic campaign people sure aren’t. For many days now, my email inbox has been flooded with panicky solicitations from my BFFs Joe, Kamala, Barack, Michelle, Aunt Nancy, Uncle Chuck, and a whole raft of Democratic guest-stars: all of whom seem to be acting as if the polls have suddenly flipped 88-12 to Trump. And exhorting the faithful to GOTV and do something about it (and contribute, of course).
I can’t really say I blame them, though: “2016 PTSD” really is a justified thing….

She doesn’t really follow the politics like I do, so she’s mainly just afraid of a repeat, not that she has any concrete examples of people being apathetic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:09:14am

re: #170 Jay C

Not sure who is “resting on their laurels”, but the national Democratic campaign people sure aren’t. For many days now, my email inbox has been flooded with panicky solicitations from my BFFs Joe, Kamala, Barack, Michelle, Aunt Nancy, Uncle Chuck, and a whole raft of Democratic guest-stars: all of whom seem to be acting as if the polls have suddenly flipped 88-12 to Trump. And exhorting the faithful to GOTV and do something about it (and contribute, of course).
I can’t really say I blame them, though: “2016 PTSD” really is a justified thing….

I had an issue with the Cubs after their debacle in 1969 that I refused to even pay attention to them until they finally won the world series again a few years back and break the Curse.

And I will stop worrying about 2020 when the results are in and tallied and certified.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:10:59am
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danarchy  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:13:58am

re: #119 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Not for the faint of heart.

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WCW Sid Breaks His Leg

Also shades of Joe Theisman

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:14:18am

A lot of people disliked Hillary, were fed up with politicians and “politics as usual” and simply stayed home, registered a vote for a third party in protest or decided to give Trump a chance because they had been convinced that there was “no real difference”.

People like Biden, and after four years of Trump’s politics at its most unusual, they are ready to have someone with experience again. And Trump has managed to convince a lot of people that staying home or voting in protest is not a good option this time around.

I am not worried about the outcome of a fair election, I am more worried about what Trump is going to try to pull out of his voluminous sleeves to undermine the results and have the election thrown to the courts or the House where he stands a chance of winning, which is not the case with the popular vote or even the EC at this point.

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Jay C  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:14:56am

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

White man steals bulldozer and rolls over Biden lawn signs in predominantly Black neighborhood

So the “Trump Train” is actually a doofus with a stolen ‘dozer? Seems appropriate…

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And I will stop worrying about 2020 when the results are in and tallied and certified.

Believe me, Wendell: you are not alone in this….

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:15:01am

re: #159 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I fear it may be exactly that. Check out this recent tweet:

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:16:10am

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:18:26am

After doing 2 weekends of phone banking with a lot of calls into Pennsylvania I’m not optimistic that Joe will carry it. I am far more optimistic that Joe will win Ohio and Texas.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:18:39am

re: #113 dangerman

Yes because Trump wants is Black people to be more successful than we want to be because we’re stupid, amirite Jared?

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:22:02am

re: #179 🌹UOJB!

After doing 2 weekends of phone banking with a lot of calls into Pennsylvania I’m not optimistic that Joe will carry it. I am far more optimistic that Joe will win Ohio and Texas.

You’re calling the hard cases.

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:23:10am

Quite a number of photography affectionados here. This should interest you.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:25:04am

re: #181 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

You’re calling the hard cases.

UNDERSTATEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:27:50am

re: #183 🌹UOJB!

UNDERSTATEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are also reaching people who are willing to answer their phone. I answer my landline about once out of 50 calls (if even that) and almost always on a whim.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:32:11am

re: #183 🌹UOJB!

UNDERSTATEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, been there. Done that. Didn’t like it either.

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:32:17am

re: #179 🌹UOJB!

After doing 2 weekends of phone banking with a lot of calls into Pennsylvania I’m not optimistic that Joe will carry it. I am far more optimistic that Joe will win Ohio and Texas.

You’re probably locked into Greene County.
Judging by the amount of Trump signs and banners here in North Central Pa it’s not in the bag. But this area has always been GOP. And dumb. Can’t buy a clue.
But think. How many times do you pick up when you do not recognize the number?
And no way of you knowing land line or cell.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:35:32am

re: #186 nines09

You’re probably locked into Greene County.
Judging by the amount of Trump signs and banners here in North Central Pa it’s not in the bag. But this area has always been GOP. And dumb. Can’t buy a clue.
But think. How many times do you pick up when you do not recognize the number?
And no way of you knowing land line or cell.

I do not pick up calls that come up “Unavailable” (which are almost all the calls that come in on the landline)

I do answer calls from unfamiliar numbers that come in on my cell phone, but those usually (BUT NOT ALWAYS) turn out to be scams from “Medicare,” “Social Security,” and “Vehicle warranty.” If they are actually legit calls they will leave a voice mail.

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:37:29am

re: #187 The Pie Overlord!

Exactly. After the 500th one I just ignored them all. If it’s someone I know or important they will leave a voicemail.
We ditched our land line years ago. Saves quite a bit of money.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:37:38am

re: #186 nines09

You’re probably locked into Greene County.
Judging by the amount of Trump signs and banners here in North Central Pa it’s not in the bag. But this area has always been GOP. And dumb. Can’t buy a clue.
But think. How many times do you pick up when you do not recognize the number?
And no way of you knowing land line or cell.

It also depends where you’re talking. Here in Northern Va, we’re going Biden but what’s going to make this state go bigger for Joe than any previous Democrat in years including Obama is that Trump has really alienated people in the Richmond suburbs and in the military areas. Likewise with Pennsylvania, I feel Joe will clobber Trump in the burbs and his popularity in Scranton as a favorite son will be enough. This is why I’m seeing a lot of pollsters poll Congressional districts rather than just focus on the state.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:38:02am

re: #179 🌹UOJB!

After doing 2 weekends of phone banking with a lot of calls into Pennsylvania I’m not optimistic that Joe will carry it. I am far more optimistic that Joe will win Ohio and Texas.

I think that you data may be skewed. If you were calling the people that are independents/conservative of course you got a lot of resistance. My friends from Brooklyn drive out to Long Island and see lots of trump signs. No way is trump going to win Ny state. PA is similar.

You may be right, but we all salute you for doing the hard job of calling people.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:38:17am

re: #188 nines09

Exactly. After the 500th one I just ignored them all. If it’s someone I know or important they will leave a voicemail.
We ditched our land line years ago. Saves quite a bit of money.

Finally got rid of ours after my grandmother died. She was the only one really using it anymore.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:38:22am

re: #186 nines09

You’re probably locked into Greene County.
Judging by the amount of Trump signs and banners here in North Central Pa it’s not in the bag. But this area has always been GOP. And dumb. Can’t buy a clue.
But think. How many times do you pick up when you do not recognize the number?
And no way of you knowing land line or cell.

What is so depressing is that Greene County used to be the Democratic bedrock in Southwestern PA.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:38:40am

re: #182 nines09

Quite a number of photography affectionados here. This should interest you.

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Did this come out of that rabbit hole? No bottles broken, this time…

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:39:14am

re: #192 🌹UOJB!

Pennsylvania lost so many Union jobs, the fucking idiots blamed the Unions.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:39:32am

re: #190 I Would Prefer Not To

I think that you data may be skewed. If you were calling the people that are independents/conservative of course you got a lot of resistance. My friends from Brooklyn drive out to Long Island and see lots of trump signs. No way is trump going to win Ny state. PA is similar.

You may be right, but we all salute you for doing the hard job of calling people.

Indeed. The part of Va where I am. I see tons of Biden signs. Where I moved from, less so and I discovered that my old precinct went for Trump by 13% four years ago and my new one went to Clinton by close to 20%.

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Danack  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:39:36am

re: #119 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Please don’t post disturbing content without describing what is gross about it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:39:58am

re: #187 The Pie Overlord!

I do not pick up calls that come up “Unavailable” (which are almost all the calls that come in on the landline)

I do answer calls from unfamiliar numbers that come in on my cell phone, but those usually (BUT NOT ALWAYS) turn out to be scams from “Medicare,” “Social Security,” and “Vehicle warranty.” If they are actually legit calls they will leave a voice mail.

My answering machine picks up all calls, unless I’m expecting a call. Because my message does not contain the words “hi” or “hello,” automated calling will hang up after a few seconds.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:39:59am

Stuff making waves on this side of the pond:
Vastaamo breach

I hope and pray this is just your J. Random extortionists and not a state actor.

Bombshell data breach ransom incident exploded in Finland. Psychotherapy center Vastaamo patient records were breached and ransom demands for not publishing data was sent to both company and patients. Patient data of 300 were already published on-line.

Vastaamo, which has branches throughout the Nordic country of 5.5 million and operates as a sub-contractor for Finland’s public health system, said its client register with intimate patient information was likely stolen during two attacks that started almost two years ago. The size of register is over 40 000 patients, so almost 1% of country population. Also some public hospital records could have leaked as company was a sub-contractor for handling records for some hospitals.

The privately-run psychotherapy centre Vastamo announced that sensitive information about its clients was leaked after its database was (not so) recently hacked.
The criminals demanded from the psychotherapy center Vastaamo 450,000 euros in exchange for stopping publishing the data. The center said the unknown perpetrator or perpetrators had published at least 300 patient records containing names and contact information using the anonymous Tor communication software.

The National Bureau of Investigations, and other agencies, have launched an investigation into how the data might have become compromised.

Hackers hijack and publish mental health data of hundreds of people

foreigner.fi

Finland shocked by therapy center hacking, client blackmail

abcnews.go.com

Hacking may have compromised privacy of thousands of psychotherapy clients in Finland

helsinkitimes.fi

Hackers hold patient information for ransom in psychotherapy data breach

newsnowfinland.fi

Hacking may have compromised privacy of thousands of psychotherapy clients in Finland

helsinkitimes.fi

Psychotherapy centre’s database hacked, patient info held ransom
The company did not reveal when the hack took place, nor how extensive it was.

yle.fi

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:40:32am

re: #194 nines09

Pennsylvania lost so many Union jobs, the fucking idiots blamed the Unions.

and they are still convinced that all they have to do is remove all safety, health and environmental regulations and the well-paid jobs will come back (without unions)

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:40:32am

re: #193 wrenchwench

“His sword.” …………

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:42:33am

re: #196 Danack

Please don’t post disturbing content without describing what is gross about it.

I just waited for someone else to give a descriptions, and even that gave me the willies.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:42:37am

re: #177 Interesting Times

I fear it may be exactly that. Check out this recent tweet:

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How about a link to the article in Yeah Sure WhatEVs comment #99? Might get her to think.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:43:05am

re: #174 danarchy

Owww…reminds me of the Sid Vicious leg break

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Also shades of Joe Theisman

My husband had one of those. Horse he was riding on wet grass (bad idea) slipped on the single foreleg support of the canter and came down with him. And he walked too much on the walking cast and tore his hip up, so that had to be replaced. And a boy I know did one on a trampoline, going down when his friends were going up. Nasty, nasty breaks.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:44:52am

VB is right though. An elephant in the room is that there’s really no Jill Stein or Gary Johnson. Howie Hawkins and Jo Jorgensen are nowhere near as high profile. Plus we’re seeing more under 30 people turn out too.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:46:41am

re: #200 nines09

“His sword.” …………

Ordinarily, I wouldn’t post something so, whatever it is, but the persistence the practice must have taken… I hope he was his own clean-up crew.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:47:32am

If 2020 was a scented candle?

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:48:43am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and they are still convinced that all they have to do is remove all safety, health and environmental regulations and the well-paid jobs will come back (without unions)

The boogieman OSHA. Exactly. “If we could only cripple a few more people, we could give you a raise.”
I watched people use toluene to wash off over glued windows and doors in airless rooms. Guys blowing rockwool into manufactured housing as insulation in rooms with no ventilation. Welding inside tanks with no fans. On and on.
But those OSHA regulations….

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:49:40am

re: #205 wrenchwench

Ordinarily, I wouldn’t post something so, whatever it is, but the persistence the practice must have taken… I hope he was his own clean-up crew.

The only time I want to hear “sword” and “bottle” together is sabering open a bottle of champagne.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:50:51am

re: #187 The Pie Overlord!

I do not pick up calls that come up “Unavailable” (which are almost all the calls that come in on the landline)

I do answer calls from unfamiliar numbers that come in on my cell phone, but those usually (BUT NOT ALWAYS) turn out to be scams from “Medicare,” “Social Security,” and “Vehicle warranty.” If they are actually legit calls they will leave a voice mail.

Funny(?) but true story. Girl friend called me Thursday afternoon on my cell. I was unable to pick up at that time but saw she called and got back to her later that day. Suddenly this morning at 2 am local time, over 3 days late, the voicemail she left on Thursday showed up on my cell. So is this an AT&T problem?

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:50:53am

re: #205 wrenchwench

Ah. You missed his other works?

【Corona beer challenge】

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:51:22am

re: #208 William Lewis

The only time I want to hear “sword” and “bottle” together is sabering open a bottle of champagne.

That’s gotta take some practice.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:54:04am

re: #211 wrenchwench

That’s gotta take some practice.

Yep. But the result is always delicious ;)

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:54:08am

re: #177 Interesting Times

I fear it may be exactly that. Check out this recent tweet:

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:54:44am

re: #210 nines09

Ah. You missed his other works?

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Video

I had! I missed all of it, until today!

Is he sponsored by Corona? Timely.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:55:16am

Ah, here’s my favorite video on the topic.

Champagne Saber Time

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:56:46am

re: #215 William Lewis

Ah, here’s my favorite video on the topic.

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You can never go wrong with Alton Brown. I adore that man.

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:01:42am

re: #213 dangerman

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:04:10am

re: #215 William Lewis

Ah, here’s my favorite video on the topic.

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Video

‘stop snickering’

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:04:15am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:05:11am

re: #217 nines09

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:08:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:09:39am

re: #204 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

VB is right though. An elephant in the room is that there’s really no Jill Stein or Gary Johnson. Howie Hawkins and Jo Jorgensen are nowhere near as high profile. Plus we’re seeing more under 30 people turn out too.

the 2016 model was based on voter suppression. Apathy and indifference are the best suppressants going. They are not working this time, which is why they are leaning so heavily on other methods.

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b.d.  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:10:23am

Who the hell knows with Texas!?!?!

No pollster and analyst can be reasonably confident about what the final Texas electorate will look like, given that a significant departure from prior turnout patterns is all but an inevitability.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:14:52am

re: #223 b.d.

Who the hell knows with Texas!?!?!

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As a Texan, I’m pushing everyone I know will vote for Biden to vote. I don’t really expect Texas to turn, but I will be overjoyed if it does.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:15:03am

re: #223 b.d.

Who the hell knows with Texas!?!?!

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Trump being unable to crack 50 in many states is encouraging

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:15:11am

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:16:31am

It’s the last Monday of October, it’s the penultimate Monday before Election Day…

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:16:45am

re: #217 nines09

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b.d.  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:17:41am

re: #224 Belafon

As a Texan, I’m pushing everyone I know will vote for Biden to vote. I don’t really expect Texas to turn, but I will be overjoyed if it does.

I’m a lifelong Texan and that article sounds like every Texas Dem obit ever, “if the Latin vote came out”.

Who the hell knows, GOP sure does seem to be banking on all their guys showing up on election day? This is a different year though?

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:19:00am

re: #227 wrenchwench

It’s the last Monday of October, it’s the penultimate Monday before Election Day…

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That is a great quote.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:19:11am

re: #227 wrenchwench

Click on the little picture-seeing icon to see the birb. It helps.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:21:11am

Water on the Moon could sustain a lunar base

Under the rocks and stones, there is water underground
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again after the money’s gone
Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:21:54am

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Still 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:26:11am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the 2016 model was based on voter suppression. Apathy and indifference are the best suppressants going. They are not working this time, which is why they are leaning so heavily on other methods.

Nationally, voters have cast 44.4% of the total votes counted in the 2016 general election.
Total Early Votes: 61,268,367 • Mail Ballots: 40,805,345 • In-Person Votes: 20,463,022
Note: Some states do not differentiate between mail ballots and in-person votes.
Voters have requested a total of 86,838,265 ballots in the reporting states.
electproject.github.io

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:26:40am

re: #224 Belafon

As a Texan, I’m pushing everyone I know will vote for Biden to vote. I don’t really expect Texas to turn, but I will be overjoyed if it does.

Based on my phone banking the last 2 weeks I am optimistic that Texas will pull an upset for Joe. Callers HATE Trump and Especially HATE Governor Ironside.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:27:37am

re: #210 nines09

Ah. You missed his other works?

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Video

I love how he looks at the camera after he is done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:27:46am

Scary part is that if not for Covid, Trump would be much stronger, probably ahead in most polls.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:29:00am

re: #233 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Still 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You left one out.

😂

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:29:38am

re: #229 b.d.

Where are you originally from? I was born and raised in Abilene, though I’m now in the DFW area.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:30:35am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Scary part is that if not for Covid, Trump would be much stronger, probably ahead in most polls.

He was behind Biden in February. He just might not be as far behind as he is now.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:31:02am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You left one out.

😂

If I could (still) stop watching and (still) laughing I’d have added more.

I believe I’m in my 15th viewing. I’m dying here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:31:46am

re: #240 Belafon

He was behind Biden in February. He just might not be as far behind as he is now.

A legitimate horse race instead of what could be, if trends hold, possibly one of the biggest blowout elections of the modern political era.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:32:34am

re: #224 Belafon

As a Texan, I’m pushing everyone I know will vote for Biden to vote. I don’t really expect Texas to turn, but I will be overjoyed if it does.

A mere five point win in texas is a humiliation

Eta..trump win

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b.d.  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:33:27am

re: #239 Belafon

Where are you originally from? I was born and raised in Abilene, though I’m now in the DFW area.

I was raised in Austin but have been in Ft. Worth for 20 years

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:34:54am

re: #230 Belafon

That is a great quote.

It’s going in my marathon prep notes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:36:59am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:39:54am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:41:26am

re: #247 Belafon

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Joe has seen his favorables improve which I think is both a testament to his campaign and also a failure of Trump’s.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:42:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:43:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:44:19am

re: #248 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Joe has seen his favorables improve which I think is both a testament to his campaign and also a failure of Trump’s.

Trump has done an incredible job of sabotaging not only himself but his entire party.

Again, my only worry is that he is going to try to pull off something outrageous, unheard-of and so over the top that are momentarily frozen and unable to react to it until the damage has already been done and the voter counts invalidated.

Because that is looking to be his only chance of not losing.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:46:10am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m sorry. Whose commonwealth is he talking about? Wisconsin isn’t, as far as I know, a commonwealth.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:46:25am

re: #247 Belafon

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Sure it’s a horserace
73 belmont

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:46:57am

re: #249 dangerman

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This provides a great framework for pushing back at any bad-faith both-siderist horseshit, e.g. wHY arE yoU pROSeCUTiNG tRuMp adMiN OffiCials tHAT’S JuSt AS BaD as tRUmP saYing LoCk HEr Up - “Hey, our DoJ is completely independent, so we’re not telling them who and who not to prosecute.”

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:47:06am

re: #252 calochortus

I’m sorry. Whose commonwealth is he talking about? Wisconsin isn’t, as far as I know, a commonwealth.

Pennsylvania is a Commonwealth, along with Kentucky, Massachusetts and Virginia.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:47:21am

re: #252 calochortus

I’m sorry. Whose commonwealth is he talking about? Wisconsin isn’t, as far as I know, a commonwealth.

Pennsylvania.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:47:33am

re: #252 calochortus

I’m sorry. Whose commonwealth is he talking about? Wisconsin isn’t, as far as I know, a commonwealth.

Pennsylvania, most likely

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:47:37am

re: #255 🌹UOJB!

Pennsylvania is a Commonwealth, along with Kentucky, Massachusetts and Virginia.

But he apparently said this in Wisconsin.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:48:08am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asshole making excuses for himself.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:49:15am

re: #240 Belafon

He was behind Biden in February. He just might not be as far behind as he is now.

We do not know where the economy would be at this time if it weren’t for the pandemic. It’s a disaster now that can all be attributed to coronavirus. But what if there were a significant downturn due to Trump’s trade policies? Trump wouldn’t be able to legitimately pin it on outside factors. So who knows where we would be.

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:49:19am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump has done an incredible job of sabotaging not only himself but his entire party.

Again, my only worry is that he is going to try to pull off something outrageous, unheard-of and so over the top that are momentarily frozen and unable to react to it until the damage has already been done and the voter counts invalidated.

Because that is looking to be his only chance of not losing.

We don’t hear as much about it
The Dems have planned and are well prepared
They’ve got all the counter moves already lined up

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:49:58am

re: #258 calochortus

But he apparently said this in Wisconsin.

Or maybe the clip is completely unconnected to the content of the Tweet.
Whatever.

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:50:29am

re: #252 calochortus

I’m sorry. Whose commonwealth is he talking about? Wisconsin isn’t, as far as I know, a commonwealth.

He doesn’t mention it in that clip, maybe he did in his Pennsylvania rally this morning, or maybe he is just reusing the teleprompter text.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:50:32am

re: #258 calochortus

But he apparently said this in Wisconsin.

Well that’s just like him. He’s whined about governors in states that aren’t even bordering the ones he’s in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:50:33am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump has done an incredible job of sabotaging not only himself but his entire party.

Again, my only worry is that he is going to try to pull off something outrageous, unheard-of and so over the top that are momentarily frozen and unable to react to it until the damage has already been done and the voter counts invalidated.

Because that is looking to be his only chance of not losing.

GOP senators pondering action if Trump loses and refuses to step down, Carl Bernstein says (New York Daily News via MSN)

Several “terribly concerned” Republican senators are starting to plan how they’ll crack down on President Trump if he loses the election but refuses to accept defeat, journalist Carl Bernstein says.

“They are very, very worried about it,” the famed Watergate journalist told CNN’s Ana Cabrera on Sunday.

He said as many as 10 senators are “trying to come together” to “make a plan that if the president provokes a constitutional crisis, which they believe he will, they will try to find a way to let law and order and the Constitution prevail.”

The GOP senators are “talking with each other about how to restrain what they regard as an out-of-control, almost madman” who is “determined to do anything to hold on to office regardless of its legality, regardless of how far it crosses lines that are unthinkable in terms of authoritarianism,” Bernstein said.

(more)

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:52:10am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

GOP senators pondering action if Trump loses and refuses to step down, Carl Bernstein says (New York Daily News via MSN)

(more)

Alas these gop senators are voting in lock step right?

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:52:43am

re: #258 calochortus

here’s the clip:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:52:52am
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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:53:25am

re: #262 calochortus

Or maybe the clip is completely unconnected to the content of the Tweet.
Whatever.

No offense intended. Just muh.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:53:27am

re: #258 calochortus

But he apparently said this in Wisconsin.

Hmmmmm…didn’t they say one of the lingering effects of Covid is cognitive impairments? But when it comes to His Ass-Holeyness how would one know?

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:54:07am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Swear Biden in, declare him president, and let him run the Executive, which includes removing Trump from the White House.

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calochortus  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:54:18am

re: #267 jaunte

here’s the clip:

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Ahh, thanks. I think I’d have heard if PA was totally shut down, though, since we have relatives there who seem to still be going about their lives.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:54:35am

re: #266 dangerman

Alas these gop senators are voting in lock step right?

Seems to me this was apparent back in February, when they could have removed him from office. Partei über alles.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:57:36am

“Just call up France. How is Paris doing?”

Numbskull.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:58:17am

Intentionally CLed, which means not CLed in the slightest:

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nines09  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:01:02am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:03:45am

re: #275 wrenchwench

Intentionally CLed, which means not CLed in the slightest:

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:42:24am

re: #252 calochortus

I’m sorry. Whose commonwealth is he talking about? Wisconsin isn’t, as far as I know, a commonwealth.

Maybe he thought he was still in Pennsylvania

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 26, 2020 • 3:40:33pm

re: #190 I Would Prefer Not To

I think that you data may be skewed. If you were calling the people that are independents/conservative of course you got a lot of resistance. My friends from Brooklyn drive out to Long Island and see lots of trump signs. No way is trump going to win Ny state. PA is similar.

You may be right, but we all salute you for doing the hard job of calling people.

Hear, hear!


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