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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:37:28pm

I’m pissed so I just gave money to all the candidates opposing the assholes who supported ACB.

FT

my new slogan is unpack the court

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:41:08pm

Wait a minute. Now they said they gave up. They actually did give up in March or April.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:42:36pm
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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:43:26pm

Got CL’d

After 2012 the Republicans had a choice. And they chose to become a party of White supremacists. They could have been de Klerk. Instead they opted for Botha.

This will not end well.

What will prevent them from declaring us “enemy combatants?”

So many authoritarian regimes derived their power from “democratic” means. And the flaws within our Constitution - from the Connecticut Compromise to the Electoral College - will have allowed the unimaginable become reality.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:44:47pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

Wait a minute. Now they said they gave up. They actually did give up in March or April.

I don’t even know that they tried at all. It was always of little concern to Trump. Meanwhile Biden was warning about a pandemic this time last fall. He was paying attention to the world. Trump cared more about having his balls wetted by the hacks at FNC.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:47:09pm

re: #5 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Because he KNEW a pandemic was coming, just like Soros and Gates. ///////////////////////// s

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:47:25pm

Arghhhhh

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:48:21pm
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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:48:21pm

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

Assholes do what assholes do.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:49:03pm

Reposted from last thread:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:49:20pm

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

Arghhhhh

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But fuck Democrats for their lack of civility.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:49:47pm

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

Arghhhhh

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Nazis can’t resist taking a victory lap. And that’s why I cut off all of my relatives today as they were gloating over this “great victory for the Lord”.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:50:44pm

Goddamn, this is so insane.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:50:45pm

re: #5 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I don’t even know that they tried at all. It was always of little concern to Trump. Meanwhile Biden was warning about a pandemic this time last fall. He was paying attention to the world. Trump cared more about having his balls wetted by the hacks at FNC.

Good point, I think my reaction includes the ready responses available by CDC, FDA, and the Defense Mfg act. All spurned.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:51:10pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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I hope there are no mass shootings on election day.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:51:45pm

Gonna be fucking shameful when we eventually see Twitter threads from women sharing their stories about back alley abortions.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:51:51pm

My dance when they’re dead list is getting a lot longer.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:52:22pm

re: #12 🌹UOJB!

Nazis can’t resist taking a victory lap. And that’s why I cut off all of my relatives today as they were gloating over this “great victory for the Lord”.

I’m going to stay positive and hope that as soon as the Senate and White House are controlled by Democrats, they’ll get to work expanding SCOTUS. This is ridiculous!! We have to be as ruthless as Republicans or we’re going to be totally screwed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:52:23pm

re: #8 Ace-o-aces

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I’m gonna say it here but fuck the leftists. I’m glad Biden is the nominee and not Bernie. And I’ll be even more glad to have him as President too since he’ll be consequential and not stuck in nonstop EO-judicial cat and mouse games.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:53:20pm

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hope there are no mass shootings on election day.

…Is something NO OTHER DEMOCRACY has to worry about.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:53:34pm

re: #19 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s no way Bernie would have won a general election. He’s easily painted as a radical Socialist.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:53:49pm

If, if, if, if, IF we are allowed to regain control it should be one of no compromise. Two years to do what can be done to repair democracy as we once knew it.

Obama wanted to try to work within the “norms.” Biden CAN’T do that.

This is an existential crisis. And timidity will not be rewarded.

Otherwise we will face President Cotton declaring war on Iran on Jan 21, 2025. And rounding up all opposition under emergency powers granted by Speaker Scalise and Senate Majority Leader Cruz.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:53:50pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:55:11pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

I strongly suspect that in March it wasn’t just that they decided on herd immunity: it’s that they decided that by not doing an overarching plan they could hurt blue states and set up corrupt money giveaways…and, frankly, because the president and a bunch of his conservative ilk are eugenicists. “Herd immunity” just emerged as the somewhat scientific-sounding excuse to not have a plan.

Now in additional to the disaster capitalism there’s the incentive to cause pain and damage because it will (1) make the task of recovery harder for their opponents, (2) create further pain and distress that feed into their sadopopulist method of managing their base.

But at the same time…these are not smart people. They’ve never shown any ability to understand the problem of the disease as material rather than a problem of marketing and rhetoric, so in a sense they have had a consistent policy of how to manage the disease…by treating it as a special rhetorical exercise in which the point is to argue the real, material thing isn’t real.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:55:12pm

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hope there are no mass shootings on election day.

The sad truth is that Republicans have already burned ballot deposit boxes and are carrying guns in Michigan. And they’re being protected by “Constitutional Sheriffs” and sympathetic racist cops.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:56:31pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

There’s no way Bernie would have won a general election. He’s easily painted as a radical Socialist.

I can’t say for sure but he wasn’t a good candidate and the leftists need to acknowledge that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:56:42pm

The Dems better make Covid relief priority #1 if they win the Senate and the WH.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:56:55pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

Bernie would be losing 54-46, if not worse.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:57:06pm

Manchin is on fire and he is pissed off.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:58:29pm

re: #28 TarHellion

Bernie would be losing 54-46, if not worse.

Bernie would join McGovern and Mondale in the One State Plus DC Club.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:59:03pm

Question: How hard is it for Trump to win if he loses Wisconsin?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:59:07pm

re: #28 TarHellion

Bernie would be losing 54-46, if not worse.

I think a lot of it would be sticking because it’s true. I can definitely see why people would have a problem with a candidate who honeymooned in the USSR. Now do I know that it was Perestroika and Bernie’s town was in a twin town program? Yes but we know how complexity doesn’t matter.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 7:59:29pm

re: #29 🌹UOJB!

Manchin is on fire and he is pissed off.

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If I read that right, Manchin is going to oppose reforming the filibuster, which doesn’t really surprise me.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:01:01pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: How hard is it for Trump to win if he loses Wisconsin?

If he loses Wisconsin, he has to win Pennsylvania or Michigan, or something really bizarre, like Nevada and New Hampshire.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:01:06pm

Well I got a feeling I know why McConnell adjourned the Senate with no Covid relief. He wants to trigger riots and protests. He wants the Proud Boys and Trump’s Thugs to gun down innocent protesters while police look the other way.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:01:10pm

re: #33 NO SMOCKING GUN!

So he’s pretty much going to let Republicans continue to sabotage the judiciary. Sigh.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:01:58pm

As if today wasn’t already bad enough:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:02:17pm

Lore: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Question: How hard is it for Trump to win if he loses Wisconsin?

Very. If he loses Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, & Michigan. He’s done. I think Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania’s margins are in that order. Pennsylvania is Biden’s homestate but I see it having a smaller margin than the former.

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aatharuv  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:02:43pm

Anyone know of any Democratic voter turn out organizations that can use last minute money. Especially in swing states, _especially_ where there are voter suppression court cases working their way up the court hierarchy?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:02:52pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

So he’s pretty much going to let Republicans continue to sabotage the judiciary. Sigh.

Which is why we need to get enough Senators so we don’t need the votes of Manchin or Feinstein. At least 52.

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JC1  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:02:56pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

The Dems better make Covid relief priority #1 if they win the Senate and the WH.

1st priority is to nuke the fillibuster. If Schumer doesn’t push for that he needs to be primaried. If Dems win the Senate, the GOP will go back to obstructing everything and nothing will get done.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:03:27pm

re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Lo

Very. If he loses Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, & Michigan. He’s done. I think Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania’s margins are in that order. Pennsylvania is Biden’s homestate but I see it having a smaller margin than the former.

Based on the phone banking I did for the past 2 weekends Pennsylvania is the state that I fear will go to Trump.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:03:28pm

re: #29 🌹UOJB!

Credit to Manchin. He easily could have become (and possibly still could be) a Zell Miller. But for now he is holding the line in a state he cannot win re-election. If he allows himself to die (politically) in an honorable way, he should be admired.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:03:54pm

re: #29 🌹UOJB!

Manchin is on fire and he is pissed off.

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He’s grown a little on me. Far from my favorite Senate Dem but I’m glad we have him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:05:09pm

re: #44 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s grown a little on me. Far from my favorite Senate Dem but I’m glad we have him.

Obviously better than the alternative, a fascist.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:05:28pm

re: #32 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think a lot of it would be sticking because it’s true. I can definitely see why people would have a problem with a candidate who honeymooned in the USSR. Now do I know that it was Perestroika and Bernie’s town was in a twin town program? Yes but we know how complexity doesn’t matter.

Bernie was and is a very poor manager. In fact, I consider him no less a narcissist than Trump. They’re alike, and neither would admit that.

A Bernie administration would be wide-open to corruption. Putin would be pleased at how well his plans could be adapted to Sanders. And Brie Brie…McEnany would blush at the things she would do as Press Secretary.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:05:30pm

re: #42 🌹UOJB!

Based on the phone banking I did for the past 2 weekends Pennsylvania is the state that I fear will go to Trump.

They call it Pennsyltucky for good reason.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:06:24pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Win the other states he won in 2016 - except Michigan - lose NE-2 but win ME-2, it is FFVCS 279-259.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:06:48pm

re: #42 🌹UOJB!

Based on the phone banking I did for the past 2 weekends Pennsylvania is the state that I fear will go to Trump.

I know you do and I honestly respectfully disagree. I think the Philly burbs and the Scranton area will provide the margin of his victory. I don’t think the fracking stuff is the deal breaker. I don’t see the margin as being as big as it will be in Michigan or Wisconsin but I think it will be a steady win for Joe in Pennsylvania. And the good news is the campaign seems to see how important it is per Obama’s appearance in Philly last week and I think Joe was in Delaware County today.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:07:30pm

re: #35 🌹UOJB!

Well I got a feeling I know why McConnell adjourned the Senate with no Covid relief. He wants to trigger riots and protests. He wants the Proud Boys and Trump’s Thugs to gun down innocent protesters while police look the other way.

Our best response:
“I’m a proud liberal and I believe in the 2nd Amendment”
Click.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:08:08pm

re: #45 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Obviously better than the alternative, a fascist.

Oh without a doubt. It’s just damn never thought he’d vote to impeach Trump(I wasn’t even sure he’d back our nominee openly) or oppose a Trump SCOTUS pick. That seat is going to be targeted in 2024. I do hope that Manchin is ready because the GOP Is going to throw a lot at his opponent.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:09:33pm

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

They call it Pennsyltucky for good reason.

They do indeed but look at how the incumbent governor did in the midterms and how Congressional candidates did. That and I think Joe speaks the language of Pennsylvania Democrats will help. It won’t be a ten plus margin but I think it will be between five and nine. Our strength is in our numbers.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:10:17pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:11:12pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:11:59pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:12:45pm

re: #48 TarHellion

Win the other states he won in 2016 - except Michigan - lose NE-2 but win ME-2, it is FFVCS 279-259.

I actually see him winning NE-2. It’s a well educated district and he’s polled well there. The only historical swing state worries have some doubt about is Ohio and Iowa. But I likewise have optimism in Arizona and North Carolina with to a smaller extent in Georgia and Texas.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:13:49pm

This scares me…

buzzfeednews.com

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:15:42pm

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue…

Airplane! - Sniffing Glue

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:17:11pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:18:35pm

re: #58 TarHellion

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue…

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I’m going to triple up on the Gorilla Glue #4 this month.

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stpaulbear  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:19:37pm

I’m just doing a hit and run with a song tonight. I can’t stand to deal with the news tonight. I pulled out UB44 and this song came on and I want to share it right now.

UB40 - I Won’t Close My Eyes (lyrics)

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:20:56pm

re: #57 🌹UOJB!

I would hope that folks here in Western NC would accept Biden winning the state. But our young state rep would be under enormous pressure to vote to send a separate set of electors. And personally knowing how spineless he is, he would do it. Especially if there were “unrest” in his local jurisdiction. And his law partner is one of my best friends. Yeah, it gets messed up in the smaller communities.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:22:17pm

re: #62 TarHellion

I would hope that folks here in Western NC would accept Biden winning the state. But our young state rep would be under enormous pressure to vote to send a separate set of electors. And personally knowing how spineless he is, he would do it. Especially if there were “unrest” in his local jurisdiction. And his law partner is one of my best friends. Yeah, it gets messed up in the smaller communities.

Radical Republicans in PA have openly discussed certifying a slate of Trump electors no matter how the state votes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:22:27pm

Right, Eric because the USPS never misplaces or misdirects a piece of mail…

I’d bet you’d be screaming bloody fucking murder if your vote ever got rejected for being late.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:23:07pm

re: #63 🌹UOJB!

Radical Republicans in PA have openly discussed certifying a slate of Trump electors no matter how the state votes.

Is that shit legal?

If so, fucking hell.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:25:18pm

re: #57 🌹UOJB!

This is the inevitable conclusion of Dems playing nice for decades, while fascists spread conspiracy theories and straw man outrage, devalued integrity, encouraged racism, and Fox News fed red meat to dimwitted masses for years.

It isn’t enough to say they’re bad or breaking the law, they have never, ever, been accountable since before Iran/Contra; they’ve never suffered consequences.

This is the result of they go low, we go high. Nazis never concerned themselves with integrity, they were only concerned with winning. Integrity alone will not stamp out fascists, as evidenced by what it took to win WWII. Likewise, it will take a lot more than integrity to stomp out well fed, well supported, well tolerated, fascism in America.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:25:26pm

re: #56 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Biden will win NE-2. Was speaking of FFVCS in other areas.

Like I said the other day, I have a VERY plugged in Democrat who thinks NC is in the bag for Biden. So it would require some major fuckery to deny Biden the presidency.

We shall see.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:28:10pm

re: #52 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They do indeed but look at how the incumbent governor did in the midterms and how Congressional candidates did. That and I think Joe speaks the language of Pennsylvania Democrats will help. It won’t be a ten plus margin but I think it will be between five and nine. Our strength is in our numbers.

I’m guessing Biden +3 after whatever additional fuckery the PA legislature and state courts try to pull with counting ballots.

Here’s my math:

Trump won by only a slim margin in 2016. If the voter pool in 2020 were exactly the same voters, some have died (and actuarially, those are likely to have been disproportionately Trump voters - older, poorer health). That alone might be enough to erase Trump’s margin.

But we KNOW that there’s a substantial pool of Trump 2016/Biden 2020 voters, especially women in the suburbs.

And for all the Cletus Safari spotlights trained on the relatively small number of voters in the T (and out in the Pittsburgh suburbs), what haven’t we seen? There’s no evidence of any significant numbers of Clinton 2016/Trump 2020 voters.

Which is to say, even in the universe limited by those voters still alive and voting from 2016, it appears Trump’s tiny edge has been erased and he has nowhere to go but down.

Except that we also KNOW there are hundreds of thousands of voters who didn’t vote in 2016 for Clinton, Trump or (mostly) for anyone at all. They won’t all break for Biden - there are new young Republican voters and some small number of Libertarian 2016/Trump 2020 voters. But Biden doesn’t need all of them. He just needs a majority of them, and likely in numbers that will just completely drown out the statistical noise that is a low-population county like the ones the Cletus Safari lazy reporters keep visiting.

The story, in short, isn’t the angry blue-collar white guy in Ambridge. It’s the young Black woman in Philadelphia who didn’t vote last time but is engaged this time. Just because we don’t see her on the news doesn’t mean we won’t hear her next week.

Have some faith. Keep fighting like hell, but have some faith, too… because what I just said about PA could be edited only slightly to apply just as weil to Michigan or Wisconsin or even Ohio.

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BeachDem  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:28:48pm

re: #29 🌹UOJB!

Manchin is on fire and he is pissed off.

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But he still manages to slip in a little bothersiderism.

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bratwurst  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:29:53pm

Ladies and gentlemen, the rats are officially abandoning the sinking ship:

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:30:18pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

So 20,000 military ballots received in Madison on November 4 will not count, right Erick son of Erick? Yeah, let’s see how that plays out.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:31:10pm

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

Is that shit legal?

If so, fucking hell.

No, but they may try anyway, unless we bury them in votes.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:32:18pm

re: #70 bratwurst

Ladies and gentlemen, the rats are officially abandoning the sinking ship:

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In that photo, ACB (Bony Carrot, snerk), looks like Justice Roberts in drag.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:33:51pm

re: #72 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No, but they may try anyway, unless we bury them in votes.

The Electoral College needs to be abolished.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:34:11pm

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danarchy  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:34:32pm

re: #67 TarHellion

Biden will win NE-2. Was speaking of FFVCS in other areas.

Like I said the other day, I have a VERY plugged in Democrat who thinks NC is in the bag for Biden. So it would require some major fuckery to deny Biden the presidency.

We shall see.

Sorry polling in NC is way to close for anyone, no matter how plugged in they are to know how it is going to go one way or another. They may have some internal polls that are slightly better than the public polls, but if they are so much batter as to say that it is in the bag, then I have to question those polls.

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cat-tikvah  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:35:28pm

re: #63 🌹UOJB!

PA legislature is seated December, before electoral votes are certified.
Critical to flip PA legislature to Dem control. Only need 9 seats in House, 4 in Senate.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:35:31pm
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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:36:24pm

re: #70 bratwurst

“I didn’t mean to send all of Democrats to the gas chamber. I felt I OWED it to them.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:36:52pm

re: #67 TarHellion

Do not underestimate the desperation or the duplicity of the current Republican party, a party in which the very rich freely manipulate the easily-fooled religious fundamentalists.

The latest SCOTUS maneuvers should convince you of that.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:40:26pm

Chins up people. Don’t let the horse race media turn your heads.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:42:44pm

Nick Foles is competent only in playoff games. Bears lone TD is from the defense.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:43:29pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:44:35pm

Brazen fuckin’ scumbag.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:44:58pm

re: #29 🌹UOJB!

Manchin is on fire and he is pissed off.

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I hope his statement doesn’t mean he’ll oppose changes to rules so that Democrats can fix this mess.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:45:11pm

re: #81 Rightwingconspirator

The chin is up, especially after latest 54-42 Yahoo/YouGov national poll. But tonight’s fuckery just totally and completely and utterly pisses me off!

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:45:28pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:46:07pm

re: #57 🌹UOJB!

Those curves in the linked post look too smooth. This is too much interpolation, not just numerically but even conceptually.

Now, under Trump the hate-right certainly have been energized. I do not expect them to go away. As in the Obama years, the violent-right will try stunts.

But I have little to believe that there is a particularly nasty ending to the current American society. As far as I can tell, we’re pretty much going to stumble our way into the future, and if I had to guess I’ll say we’ will go out with a wimper and not a bang.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:47:04pm

Interactive toy to play with from Nate silver.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-biden-election-map/

Pick Your Own Scenario
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:47:16pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:50:05pm

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:51:23pm

re: #86 TarHellion

The chin is up, especially after latest 54-42 Yahoo/YouGov national poll. But tonight’s fuckery just totally and completely and utterly pisses me off!

We knew it would happen. We’re gonna make them pay.

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bratwurst  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:53:08pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:57:22pm

re: #89 Rightwingconspirator

I call it the FF (Full Fuckery) model:

All the places where the GOP can get away with their scheme.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 8:58:25pm

Like Hoover, the Republicans should face the FFVCS albatross for a generation.

Unfortunately, it will be forgotten in fewer than 12 months. Give that it is actually allowed to lose.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:00:13pm

re: #81 Rightwingconspirator

Chins up people. Don’t let the horse race media turn your heads.

In the immortal words of Chico Escuela…

Keep….you eye…on the ball.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:01:02pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:01:17pm

re: #91 GlutenFreeJesus

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It’s just a matter of time now until there will be no legal abortion clinics in most of the U. S.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:03:09pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:04:18pm

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I call the the FF (Full Fuckery) model:

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All the places where the GOP can get away with their scheme.

Florida and NC should have their votes counted November 3, so I don’t know how you conclude the GOP can get away with their scheme there.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:05:32pm

re: #100 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Initial vote counts don’t matter. It’s how the electoral college can be decided.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:07:12pm

re: #77 cat-tikvah

PA legislature is seated December, before electoral votes are certified.
Critical to flip PA legislature to Dem control. Only need 9 seats in House, 4 in Senate.

Is there a way to contribute to all these contests at once, rather then by individual?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:07:24pm

re: #101 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Initial vote counts don’t matter. It’s how the electoral college can be decided.

If you are suggesting they can ignore the vote and select Trump electors, they can’t.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:09:32pm

re: #103 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If you are suggesting they can ignore the vote and select Trump electors, they can’t.

There’s a lot more to it than that. Gore. v. Bush should have taught us that.

First, courts will be involved to discount votes. Then appellate courts. Then supreme courts.

And yes, electors can do what they want. You may claim it is illegal because some elector is from a state where the law says the elector has to vote a certain way, but what happens if the elector chooses to be unfaithful?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:14:41pm

re: #104 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There’s a lot more to it than that. Gore. v. Bush should have taught us that.

First, courts will be involved to discount votes. Then appellate courts. Then supreme courts.

And yes, electors can do what they want. You may claim it is illegal because some elector is from a state where the law says the elector has to vote a certain way, but what happens if the elector chooses to be unfaithful?

There are 33 states (plus the District of Columbia) that require electors to vote for a pledged candidate. Most of those states (16 plus DC) nonetheless do not provide for any penalty or any mechanism to prevent the deviant vote from counting as cast. Five states provide a penalty of some sort for a deviant vote, and 14 states provide for the vote to be canceled and the elector replaced (two states do both). The constitutionality of these laws was upheld by the Supreme Court in Chiafalo v. Washington on July 6, 2020.

Source: FairVote

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:15:15pm

I’m still in a mood. Gave $25 to Wendy Davis in TX.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:17:09pm

re: #104 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There’s a lot more to it than that. Gore. v. Bush should have taught us that.

First, courts will be involved to discount votes. Then appellate courts. Then supreme courts.

And yes, electors can do what they want. You may claim it is illegal because some elector is from a state where the law says the elector has to vote a certain way, but what happens if the elector chooses to be unfaithful?

SCOTUS just ruled that the states can impose whatever penalties they have enacted against faithless electors. You have to be really paranoid to imagine Trumpists have infiltrated Biden’s electors in numbers sufficient to throw the election to him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:18:28pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there a way to contribute to all these contests at once, rather then by individual?

I saw some organization on Twitter, but I can’t remember it’s name.

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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:23:06pm

re: #107 NO SMOCKING GUN!

SCOTUS just ruled that the states can impose whatever penalties they have enacted against faithless electors. You have to be really paranoid to imagine Trumpists have infiltrated Biden’s electors in numbers sufficient to throw the election to him.

Paranoia seems to be gaining a lot of ground these days.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:24:53pm

re: #107 NO SMOCKING GUN!

SCOTUS just ruled that the states can impose whatever penalties they have enacted against faithless electors. You have to be really paranoid to imagine Trumpists have infiltrated Biden’s electors in numbers sufficient to throw the election to him.

Wasn’t the nightmare scenario we discussed several days ago that, per Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, a Republican legislature could ignore the results of the election and select their own set of electors? This would require that the legislature pass a law to change the method of selection, but Republicans have no problem in discarding precedents or ignoring rules when it suits their purposes. The Constitution is silent on how electors are chosen; there is nothing that requires they reflect the results of an election.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:25:19pm

re: #109 makeitstop

Paranoia seems to be gaining a lot of ground these days.

It’s not paranoia to think that the GOP will challenge results in court. Unless Biden wins overwhelmingly in a state, that can and will happen.

And in states where the GOP controls the legislature and Governor, then there are ways to change elector-laws.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:27:29pm

re: #104 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There’s a lot more to it than that. Gore. v. Bush should have taught us that.

First, courts will be involved to discount votes. Then appellate courts. Then supreme courts.

And yes, electors can do what they want. You may claim it is illegal because some elector is from a state where the law says the elector has to vote a certain way, but what happens if the elector chooses to be unfaithful?

Funnily enough, the conservative Supreme Court ruled they have to follow their states laws.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:27:32pm

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s not paranoia to think that the GOP will challenge results in court. Unless Biden wins overwhelmingly in a state, that can and will happen.

And in states where the GOP controls the legislature and Governor, then there are ways to change elector-laws.

They can’t change the law after the election to reject the election results. That is just paranoia talking.

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gwangung  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:27:40pm

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s not paranoia to think that the GOP will challenge results in court. Unless Biden wins overwhelmingly in a state, that can and will happen.

And in states where the GOP controls the legislature and Governor, then there are ways to change elector-laws.

And which states are those? And, more importantly, how many of them are in contention?

You seem to have more paranoia than thought put into this conversation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:28:39pm

re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, only 14 states allow for an elector to be replaced and the vote changed. But again, the problem is the GOP controlled legislatures and GOP governors.

And don’t forget, courts can rule to throw out votes. This is Trump’s first line of defense.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:28:52pm

re: #72 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No, but they may try anyway, unless we bury them in votes.

The state has a Democratic governor. That makes such shenanigans more difficult to pull off.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:29:02pm

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t the nightmare scenario we discussed several days ago that, per Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, a Republican legislature could ignore the results of the election and select their own set of electors? This would require that the legislature pass a law to change the method of selection, but Republicans have no problem in discarding precedents or ignoring rules when it suits their purposes. The Constitution is silent on how electors are chosen; there is nothing that requires they reflect the results of an election.

No, they have laws in place for the election now. They can’t retroactively change the law because they don’t like the election results.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:29:31pm
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:29:55pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there a way to contribute to all these contests at once, rather then by individual?

One way would be to look up the state Democratic party and donate to them. I just donated to the Texas Democrats that way.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:30:23pm

re: #114 gwangung

You seem to have more paranoia than thought put into this conversation.

It is not paranoia to suggest that what happened in the past may happen again.

Votes can be thrown out. Again, even today, we see that the post-mark issue lost in WI. The late votes will be thrown out.

Any vote can be thrown out if a court decides it is necessary.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:31:38pm

re: #118 Ace-o-aces

Yeah, that one was especially dark, and I’m not just talking about the lighting.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:31:46pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there a way to contribute to all these contests at once, rather then by individual?

Google “actblue state legislative races”, and you can find a link to donate to multiple candidates to turn state legislatures blue.

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gwangung  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:31:57pm

re: #120 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It is not paranoia to suggest that what happened in the past may happen again.

Votes can be thrown out. Again, even today, we see that the post-mark issue lost in WI. The late votes will be thrown out.

Any vote can be thrown out if a court decides it is necessary.

I asked, how many states with both Republican governors and legislatures. And which of them are battleground states?

No thought. Just paranoia.

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cat-tikvah  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:33:20pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

Consider TurnPABlue.
turnpablue.org
secure.actblue.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:34:48pm

re: #120 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It is not paranoia to suggest that what happened in the past may happen again.

Votes can be thrown out. Again, even today, we see that the post-mark issue lost in WI. The late votes will be thrown out.

Any vote can be thrown out if a court decides it is necessary.

A court can’t rule “throw out Democratic votes until Trump is leading.” Nate Silver pointed out that Democrats have been returning their ballots early, so late ballots may well actually favor Republicans.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:35:44pm

re: #116 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

The state has a Democratic governor. That makes such shenanigans more difficult to pull off.

Not to mention the voters themselves. I know people have convinced themselves of this don’t believe the polls gospel but the polls weren’t as off as people think four years ago. Trump is unpopular. He honestly seems more popular than he is because his supporters won’t shut up. I’m a huge Biden supporter but I’m not advertising that even on my social media. People who know me to talk to me know how I feel.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:35:52pm
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makeitstop  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:35:59pm

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s not paranoia to think that the GOP will challenge results in court. Unless Biden wins overwhelmingly in a state, that can and will happen.

And in states where the GOP controls the legislature and Governor, then there are ways to change elector-laws.

I realize that they’re going to try to challenge the vote. We’ve known that all along.

And I’m familiar with the saying “hope for the best, expect the worst.”

But for crying out loud, guys. It’s like we’re having a contest to see who can come up with the worst worst-case scenario here.

People are nervous, I get it. I am, too. I just don’t understand why we always do this.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:38:33pm

re: #128 makeitstop

I realize that they’re going to try to challenge the vote. We’ve known that all along.

And I’m familiar with the saying “hope for the best, expect the worst.”

But for crying out loud, guys. It’s like we’re having a contest to see who can come up with the worst worst-case scenario here.

People are nervous, I get it. I am, too. I just don’t understand why we always do this.

We’re an echo chamber, and we post a lot of gloomy stuff. The really hard thing to do is to keep this blog from being the world.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:38:34pm

re: #125 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A court can’t rule “throw out Democratic votes until Trump is leading.” Nate Silver pointed out that Democrats have been returning their ballots early, so late ballots may well actually favor Republicans.

And honestly I do have some trust in some Republican appointed judges. I don’t see them throwing out a considerable margin of victory out. They’re assholes but not stupid. I’ll say it again but it’s very possible that Trumpism becomes a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP who increasingly are unable to adapt in electoral politics. This pandemic response isn’t going to be easily done away with amnesia.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:38:40pm

re: #128 makeitstop

Me, either. I’d like to get some sleep tonight!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:39:58pm

Just for the record, and this is what I’ve written several times so far on LGF, I do expect Biden to win, if only because he was the right guy to nominate to flip both MI and PA.

However, I’m expecting the vote to be closer than many of you are hoping it will be.

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piratedan  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:41:14pm

think it’ll play out this way..

If Trump performs better than expected, they’ll toss him the election…if they feel they can do so if the media allows them to…

If he crashes and burns, then GOP will challenge each and every bill passed in the courts and try and kill each and every progressive measure by making it “unconstitutional”

I think that’s their game plan….
I think that they believe that the Dems will play by the rules, but since the GOP writes the rules they have nothing to fear from a Biden administration.

If that is indeed their game plan , the Biden team will likely have to “release the whirlwind” via a fair DOJ. If that is done, we’ll see the DOJ prosecute everyone, from the 45 administration, GOP politicians and those compromised in the media. I think we see Kavanaugh impeached. May see the same happen with Barrett too. Perjury. An Augean stables like cleaning. Will see if the media allows it, but if the Russians coordinated with the GOP (and they did) in funneling cash and logistics in the 2016 (and 2020) elections, the gloves will come off. Partisanship be damned.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:42:03pm

Let’s call this the WF (Wisconsin Fuckery) scenario. I ONLY changed:
1) Iowa to lean Trump;
2) Wisconsin a win for Trump.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:42:29pm

First major snowstorm of the season in these parts is officially over. A couple of inches shy of a foot at my twenty, which is actually a few inches more than the ski areas up the road got. Overnight low tonight -6° F. Forecast high temperature this weekend closer to 60° F. *sigh*

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:43:02pm

BTW, Nate’s model is very very sensitive to Iowa. Changing it from one value-state to another seems to impact quite a bit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:44:32pm

Llre: #128 makeitstop

I realize that they’re going to try to challenge the vote. We’ve known that all along.

And I’m familiar with the saying “hope for the best, expect the worst.”

But for crying out loud, guys. It’s like we’re having a contest to see who can come up with the worst worst-case scenario here.

People are nervous, I get it. I am, too. I just don’t understand why we always do this.

2016 Trauma is very real and hell I can go back to 2000 too but whereas I’ve experienced tough days as a Democratic first supporter, voter, & later volunteer. I’ve been there for good days too. And I feel with all my heart that next Tuesday will be the start of a better day. We may not know immediately Tuesday night but as the votes come in, Trump’s fall will be apparent.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:44:38pm

re: #127 Belafon

That’s IT! That is the ad!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:45:59pm

re: #136 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

BTW, Nate’s model is very very sensitive to Iowa. Changing it from one state to another seems to impact quite a bit.

It screws Trump if Biden wins, because Nate’s model assumes that if Biden wins Iowa, he’s winning the rest of the upper Midwest. It only helps Trump to win Iowa a little.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:48:06pm

re: #136 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

BTW, Nate’s model is very very sensitive to Iowa. Changing it from one value-state to another seems to impact quite a bit.

Is it just Iowa changing, or is it that, to change the conditions in Iowa, you would also be changing the conditions in other states as well?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:48:21pm

re: #138 TarHellion

That’s IT! That is the ad!

Biden gets it. He’s gotten it from the start. And I’m glad to have given him my vote twice this year precisely because of that.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:48:32pm

re: #137 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ll

2016 Trauma is very real and hell I can go back to 2000 too but whereas I’ve experienced tough days as a Democratic first supporter, voter, & later volunteer. I’ve been there for good days too. And I feel with all my heart that next Tuesday will be the start of a better day. We may not know immediately Tuesday night but as the votes come in, Trump’s fall will be apparent.

If after everything that’s happened Democrats can’t go out enmasse and absolutely bury Trump, we are fucked as a nation. He should lose by 10 points, minimum.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:51:00pm

re: #139 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It’s one of the problems with Nate’s model: it has built in preference for regions/sets-of-states to be more sensitive to a few select outcomes in particular states, based on past performances.

Now the past influences us today. But the usual disclaimer forced upon the financial industry is past performances do not guarantee future results, and that ought to be added in heavy doses to the 538 model.

re: #140 Belafon

See above. The model appears to also link historically the migration into Iowa, as the population of Iowa was early on settled by people from Ohio, whose families a generation earlier came from PA. Demographical connections tied to history.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:51:46pm

And it looks like Roe is going to be reversed even faster than I thought. cbsnews.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:54:07pm

re: #142 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If after everything that’s happened Democrats can’t go out enmasse and absolutely bury Trump, we are fucked as a nation. He should lose by 10 points, minimum.

I really think it’s going to be a repudiation. And he’ll tbh I was optimistic before the pandemic about beating Trump. The real work begins after this. It begins when we realize that every election matters. It begins when we read instead of merely click. It begins when we call out voices of demagogues loudly. The Age of Trump can be ended if we value our suffrage and ability to participate in this democracy.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:55:23pm

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s one of the problems with Nate’s model: it has built in preference for regions/sets-of-states to be more sensitive to a few select outcomes in particular states, based on past performances.

Now the past influences us today. But the usual disclaimer forced upon the financial industry is past performances do not guarantee future results, and that ought to be added in heavy doses to the 538 model.

See above. The model appears to also link historically the migration into Iowa, as the population of Iowa was early on settled by people from Ohio, whose families a generation earlier came from PA. Demographical connections tied to history.

Nate links them because the key error Wang made was treating each state election as an independent variable, making it extremely unlikely Trump could overcome the odds in all if them, when in reality it’s a national election so demographically similar states will move in tandem, so if Trump was gaining in one of them, he was probably gaining in all if them.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:56:27pm

re: #144 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And it looks like Roe is going to be reversed even faster than I thought. cbsnews.com

Another in a slew of laws Democrats will have to pass early.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:58:04pm

re: #147 Belafon

Another in a slew of laws Democrats will have to pass early.

If they have enough votes in the Senate to abolish the filibuster; fingers crossed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:58:37pm

re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Exactly. Which is why smart politicians spend more time in only certain states. Candidates rarely come out here to the Left coast because we are not going to vote for the Republican party in it’s current form.

So the swing states really are swing states, and their demographics are bell-weathers.

Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Iowa… these are the states whose outcome more directly either controls (FL, OH, PA) or indicates (WI, IA) what is happening nation-wide.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:58:48pm

Ok.. anyone who is freaked out by today.. Don’t watch this..

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 9:58:51pm

re: #142 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I guess that is what you have to say at this point. If FFVCS wins again, there is no blame but upon us as a country. And we shall bear the same shame as Germany in 1933.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:00:35pm
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BeachDem  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:00:58pm

re: #127 Belafon

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Wow—that is powerful.

There’s a grief that can’t be spoken,
There’s a pain goes on and on.
Empty chairs at empty tables,
Now my friends are dead and gone.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:02:00pm

re: #150 Kilroy was here

Ok.. anyone who is freaked out by today.. Don’t watch this..

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I expect if he wins to use his kids as a loophole. Don for four more years and Don Jr for eight (I disagree with those of you who think Ivanka is his political heir, she is his business heir.) Fortunately I think they’re gonna be foiled but we can’t let up.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:03:41pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:08:26pm

re: #153 BeachDem

Wow—that is powerful.

There’s a grief that can’t be spoken,
There’s a pain goes on and on.
Empty chairs at empty tables,
Now my friends are dead and gone.

I haven’t lost anyone to Covid but I worry about my parents and older relatives constantly. I also feel so sad since this is the world that my niece is coming of age in and the one that my youngest brother and his girlfriend are becoming adults in. 2016 America was far from a perfect place but we had a good President. A decent man who could move us with his words like he did after a mass shooting or could make us laugh as he roasted himself at the WHCD. The past four years I can’t even describe what we’ve had. I’ve lived through six presidents- Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, W Bush, Obama, and now Trump. One stands out for not even trying to act like a President. I’m no admirer of W. Hell I’m always proud that I spent part of my teenage years opposing his policies and met many now lifelong friends through that but this is something much darker.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:08:36pm

re: #154 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That is assuming there is another “vote” allowed in 2024. A 5-4 SC (with Roberts “dissenting”) would allow the elimination of elections due to the “national interests.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:08:58pm

re: #155 Belafon

She was nominated barely a month ago.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:10:57pm

re: #157 TarHellion

That is assuming there is another “vote” allowed in 2024. A 5-4 SC (with Roberts “dissenting”) would allow the elimination of elections due to the “national interests.”

I have no idea. FWIW I think they’ve done a lot to ensure if they tried shit like that, it would backfire big time on them. Trump and his cronies have done a lot to alienate people that they would need for a hostile takeover.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:14:28pm

I got a feeling the JCS has had enough of Shithead and the GOP.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:17:52pm

Only once in our history has a candidate received a majority of the votes and lost. That was 1876 when Tilden was denied the presidency over Hayes. Probably for the better, given how Tilden likely would have been more extreme with the elimination of Northern rule and the establishment of Jim Crow.

It is just utterly sickening to see today’s GOP looking to rule in today’s America the same way Democrats did 70 to 125 years ago. Yeah, my party is no longer the one of Wilson. But the GOP long has ceased to the be the party of Lincoln.

If Lincoln were alive today and saw what the GOP was doing in his name, he would never stop throwing up.

I just so fear we are going the way of Turkey, Hungary, and Poland.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:18:15pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:21:21pm

re: #161 TarHellion

Only once in our history has a candidate received a majority of the votes and lost. That was 1876 when Tilden was denied the presidency over Hayes. Probably for the better, given how Tilden likely would have been more extreme with the elimination of Northern rule and the establishment of Jim Crow.

It is just utterly sickening to see today’s GOP looking to rule in today’s America the same way Democrats did 70 to 125 years ago. Yeah, my party is no longer the one of Wilson. But the GOP long has ceased to the be the party of Lincoln.

If Lincoln were alive today and saw what the GOP was doing in his name, he would never stop throwing up.

I just so fear we are going the way of Turkey, Hungary, and Poland.

It makes me sad to see how Poland and Hungary have gone. It goes to show you that capitalism doesn’t always translate to liberal democracy which was the consensus that emerged after the fall of the wall. And I say this as someone who doesn’t see what’s called democratic socialism as a panacea to systemic inequality.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:24:47pm

re: #160 🌹UOJB!

I got a feeling the JCS has had enough of Shithead and the GOP.

Trump can fire the entire JCS and replace them with his toadies. As long as the GOP controls the Senate, he can do whatever his little heart pleases. And if the Democrats have a majority in the Senate? If he is re-elected, he can still do whatever he pleases unless the Democrats have a 2/3 majority in the Senate. He will continue to govern as he does now, by executive order. The only limitation would be that he wouldn’t get to appoint judges to any court.

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BeachDem  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:26:01pm

re: #156 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I haven’t lost anyone to Covid but I worry about my parents and older relatives constantly. I also feel so sad since this is the world that my niece is coming of age in and the one that my youngest brother and his girlfriend are becoming adults in. 2016 America was far from a perfect place but we had a good President. A decent man who could move us with his words like he did after a mass shooting or could make us laugh as he roasted himself at the WHCD. The past four years I can’t even describe what we’ve had. I’ve lived through six presidents- Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, W Bush, Obama, and now Trump. One stands out for not even trying to act like a President. I’m no admirer of W. Hell I’m always proud that I spent part of my teenage years opposing his policies and met many now lifelong friends through that but this is something much darker.

I’m on unlucky 13—been kicking since Truman was in office (first one I actually remember was Eisenhower.) I lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Kennedy assassination, Viet Nam, Kent State, no legal abortions, inability to get birth control, and on and on. I have never experienced the horror that is today. I know I’ve lived a relatively privileged and comfortable life, and I’ll probably be dead by the time the true ugly impact of current events is felt, but I’ll fight till my last breath for you and the rest of the “kids” who will have to deal with what is upcoming.

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:26:05pm

What is wrong with counting votes? Hell, look to the election of 1916 when California was decided by 3,773 votes and New Hampshire by 56 votes.

As a political science graduate, I never could have imagined that in our country the simple act of voting and the total votes tabulated would be called into general question. THIS is how democracies die. The classes I took and the classes I taught mentioned how fragile a democratically-elected republic could be. I never imagined that the enemy of this system would exist from within.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:30:10pm

re: #165 BeachDem

I’m on unlucky 13—been kicking since Truman was in office (first one I actually remember was Eisenhower.) I lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Kennedy assassination, Viet Nam, Kent State, no legal abortions, inability to get birth control, and on and on. I have never experienced the horror that is today. I know I’ve lived a relatively privileged and comfortable life, and I’ll probably be dead by the time the true ugly impact of current events is felt, but I’ll fight till my last breath for you and the rest of the “kids” who will have to deal with what is upcoming.

And I’m fighting along with anyone who sees that liberal democracy is worth fighting for. I’ve had enough of divisions. I’ll stand with boomers and silvers who believe in liberal democracy over people who don’t.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:30:45pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:35:51pm

re: #162 Citizen K

In this case apparently the state law itself specifies that the ballots must arrive by election day; since Republicans control the legislature, they had no interest in extending the date and revising the legislation. I didn’t read the decision, but if a state has a later deadline, wouldn’t that later date still be in force?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:36:33pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

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A man who knows less about the law than me has appointed 1/3 of the scotus judges. Yep I need some whiskey.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:38:57pm

And note to the scotus observers, please do not think HRC, either Obama, or your favorite here should be on scotus. There’s a lot of great legal minds that will write just as good liberal rulings who the right would never be able to use as a lightening rod on confirmation and a lot of them aren’t household names (that’s good). I still think Judge Brown-Jackson will be Biden’s likely pick ( I expect Breyer to retire and she’s his former clerk too)

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:39:19pm

Despite my fears this evening, I will go to bed thinking this:

“I Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Let’s get more people out to vote! I will be driving people to the polls Friday and Saturday. Anything you can do - even if it is 1 vote - can make all of the difference.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:39:46pm

re: #166 TarHellion

What is wrong with counting votes? Hell, look to the election of 1916 when California was decided by 3,773 votes and New Hampshire by 56 votes.

As a political science graduate, I never could have imagined that in our country the simple act of voting and the total votes tabulated would be called into general question. THIS is how democracies die. The classes I took and the classes I taught mentioned how fragile a democratically-elected republic could be. I never imagined that the enemy of this system would exist from within.

Fortunately, like a comic book villain Trump told us his plan, inspiring a tsunami of very early voting by Democrats. 62 million votes have already been cast, mostly by Democrats and independents, who are breaking against Trump. Trump’s margin of defeat will be too large to enable him to cheat his way to victory.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:40:41pm

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

In this case apparently the state law itself specifies that the ballots must arrive by election day; since Republicans control the legislature, they had no interest in extending the date and revising the legislation. I didn’t read the decision, but if a state has a later deadline, wouldn’t that later date still be in force?

Yes it would.

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Mattand  Oct 26, 2020 • 10:48:18pm

re: #134 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Let’s call this the WF (Wisconsin Fuckery) scenario. I ONLY changed:
1) Iowa to lean Trump;
2) Wisconsin a win for Trump.

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Gee, thanks for making me feel better.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:22:32pm

re: #175 Mattand

Gee, thanks for making me feel better.

If you look at the map as it was set up, you see Biden with an 88% chance of winning the electoral college. What is the justification for changing things from blue to red from the couch in your living room except to make you feel bad? You could just as reasonably change red states to blue — it won’t change 538’s data, but it’s a much prettier picture.

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Nyet  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:24:12pm

ACB is now RBG’s legacy.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:31:09pm
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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:42:44pm

re: #163 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Democracy was supposed to “liberate” these Iron Curtain nations. But what we have seen is that supposedly “democratic” leaders have used the power of the ballot to subvert “republican” norms. (Yes, these labels are interchangeable in political science, i.e. the Liberal Democrats are conservatives in Japan).

What we have in the US is the Nationalist-Republicans in opposition to the Constitutional-Democrats. Mind you, I am just describing how each party thinks not fringe parties such as Libertarian or Constitution.

What is clear is that the GOP has become a party more akin to Hungary, Poland or far-right France than the UK, Germany or Japan.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:48:28pm

re: #179 TarHellion

What is clear is that the GOP has become a party more akin to Hungary, Poland or far-right France than the UK, Germany or Japan.

But we have a Corporate Controlled Conservative Press that merely recites Republican talking points and endlessly “both sides” every fucking thing. Note how the DC Press Corpse has endlessly normalized the Republican march to theocratic fascism.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:55:00pm

Retro tweet:

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TarHellion  Oct 26, 2020 • 11:56:48pm

re: #180 🌹UOJB!

I can’t disagree with that sentiment. At the same time, there has been a majority/minority party complicit in allowing this to happen. If Democrats had drawn a line in the sand after Thomas, some of this could have been avoided.

What Democrats did not foresee was a party hell-bent on expunging all norms for total control. And, after Monday’s decisions, means absolute and total control, regardless of what the people decide.

TRUMP UBER ALLES!!!!!!! //////////////////////////////////////////////// sssssssssssss

But I shudder to think this could be our Nov. 4 reality.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:03:52am
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TarHellion  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:09:00am

Bush v Gore was just the beginning

They saw the handwriting on the wall. The attacks on 9/11 allowed them to squeak by, when a normal election year would have seen them lose. They could not escape 2008 but did all they could to gum up the works and lead a white revolt in 2010.

Despite winning in 2012, the incumbent shied away in 2014 and in 2016, not realizing the dire implications.

Meanwhile, the opposition hardened and deepened. Long ago was forgotten the idea of free-thought or independence. All that mattered was purity. Apostates were primaried thanks to unlimited cash. A Turtle got control. And ran with it.

And now a Supreme Court implicitly says that at 12:00 a.m. on Wednesday, November 4, 2020, the election will end.

Fuck me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:13:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:17:24am

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hope there are no mass shootings on election day.

There will be some kind of militia violence connected with elections. I hope it is minimal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:23:42am

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s not paranoia to think that the GOP will challenge results in court. Unless Biden wins overwhelmingly in a state, that can and will happen.

And in states where the GOP controls the legislature and Governor, then there are ways to change elector-laws.

I see that as an inevitability. Trump has zero chance of winning the popular vote and little chance of pulling out a straight EC victory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:25:19am

re: #128 makeitstop

But for crying out loud, guys. It’s like we’re having a contest to see who can come up with the worst worst-case scenario here.

People are nervous, I get it. I am, too. I just don’t understand why we always do this.

Because this is an unprecedented situation: an incumbent who knows that he faces criminal charges the moment he loses Presidential immunity. He will not shy away from desperate measures to avoid losing at all costs.

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TarHellion  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:34:16am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And a Supreme Court has already indicated they will protect him at all costs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:35:52am

re: #189 TarHellion

And a Supreme Court has already indicated they will protect him at all costs.

really unprecedented: he now has the backing of criminal organizations (The RNC and the Trump Organization), of foreign governments and now SCOTUS.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:37:58am
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TarHellion  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:40:07am

10 million vote majority? Who gives a fuck. WE (The 6) re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Filling the streets will be the ultimate resort. And shutting down the economy. (At least until that is outlawed). A coup d’etat of will of the people cannot be sanctioned. This already happened once in NC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:43:09am

re: #192 TarHellion

10 million vote majority? Who gives a fuck. WE (The 6)

Filling the streets will be the ultimate resort. And shutting down the economy. (At least until that is outlawed). A coup d’etat of will of the people cannot be sanctioned. This already happened once in NC.

Then he will send the Bat Signal to his Boogaloo/Proud Boys and they will get their Civil War.

Police will stand by and defend property and only intervene if anti-Trump protesters are getting the upper hand.

Might as well just set fire to the Reichstag while we’re at it…

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:43:44am

Well, I’ve taken a week-long semi-vacation from politics, let’s see how things are…oh…oh dear…

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:45:41am

re: #194 Targetpractice

Well, I’ve taken a week-long semi-vacation from politics, let’s see how things are…oh…oh dear…

Shall I pass the glue?

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:48:57am

re: #195 wrenchwench

Shall I pass the glue?

I picked the wrong week…

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:50:35am

re: #196 Targetpractice

I picked the wrong week…

Sometimes the week picks you…

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TarHellion  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:51:14am

re: #58 TarHellion

Repeat

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TarHellion  Oct 27, 2020 • 12:53:44am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:00:11am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:08:31am

re: #117 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No, they have laws in place for the election now. They can’t retroactively change the law because they don’t like the election results.

Still won’t prevent them from trying. One of the goals is simply to muddy the waters and attempt to throw the result in doubt enough to make a SC decision a’la Bush vs Gore to be the key.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:12:57am

re: #201 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Still won’t prevent them from trying. One of the goals is simply to muddy the waters and attempt to throw the result in doubt enough to make a SC decision a’la Bush vs Gore to be the key.

you nailed it

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:13:01am

re: #130 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And honestly I do have some trust in some Republican appointed judges. I don’t see them throwing out a considerable margin of victory out. They’re assholes but not stupid. I’ll say it again but it’s very possible that Trumpism becomes a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP who increasingly are unable to adapt in electoral politics. This pandemic response isn’t going to be easily done away with amnesia.

Might also prove Pyrrhic in that they overplayed their hand too early supporting Trump; who is quite obviously incompetent and corrupt enough for all to see. if they’d waited for someone who had the populist vibe without being a complete ass things would slip over the line in authoritarianism with much less fanfare.

Trump and company might well have woken the giant before they had a firm enough grasp. And a lot of these last gasp challenges and voter suppression tactics are less effective when an aware base gets information, organizes and votes early.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:19:33am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:33:44am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:39:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:41:03am

re: #206 Dread Pirate Ron

BREAKING—huge CDC report on hospitalized healthcare workers w/ COVID19, which comprise 1 in 16.7 (6%) of all hospitalized cases!

📌10% hospitalized had zero risk factor! (Median age only 49, so not old at all)

📌Whopping 36% hospitalized were nurses!

Herd Immunity at its finest…

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:44:54am

re: #205 Dread Pirate Ron

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Mike’s gonna get a pardon before January, regardless of whether or not Donny is reelected.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:50:05am
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Teukka  Oct 27, 2020 • 1:51:32am
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Ming5000  Oct 27, 2020 • 2:13:46am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m pissed so I just gave money to all the candidates opposing the assholes who supported ACB.

FT

my new slogan is unpack the court

“unpack the court”

To the point. Accurate. Perfect for a sign or chant. I love it.

Unpack The Court!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 2:20:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 2:25:10am

re: #212 Dread Pirate Ron

Covid: Antibodies ‘fall rapidly after infection’

Again, we know very little about any long-term effects of Covid. Herd Immunity was simply pushed because it seemed to offer the least economic damage to countries like the UK and USA where politicians were worried about how damage to the economy would hurt their chances of re-election.

The sad part again is that people will rally around a strong leader even in times of social or even economic crises, if they show strong leadership and act in the country’s benefit.

But Trump has neither the knowledge, character nor the right people in place to offer such leadership, hence the excuses like “I didn’t want to cause a panic”, etc…

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2020 • 2:26:45am

re: #212 Dread Pirate Ron

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In order for herd immunity to work, you need enough people to either have vaccinations or acquired antibodies that make it difficult for a specific virus to take hold in a community. In the absence of a safe and effective vaccine, getting to herd immunity requires enough people to get sick and develop antibodies that the number of vulnerable persons is less than it takes to sustain an outbreak.

If immunity doesn’t last and antibodies decline, then you can’t reach herd immunity. Not without efforts to isolate vulnerable persons until the virus burns itself out in those already infected.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 2:30:52am

re: #18 Patricia Kayden

I’m going to stay positive and hope that as soon as the Senate and White House are controlled by Democrats, they’ll get to work expanding SCOTUS. This is ridiculous!! We have to be as ruthless as Republicans or we’re going to be totally screwed.

we must now stay on our sens and reps so there can be no question / they are absolutely certain how we feel

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 3:17:36am

Morning Lizardim. This is your daily reminder that despite how bad things look right now, we CAN fix this. All is not lost just yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 3:18:50am

re: #216 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim. This is your daily reminder that despite how bad things look right now, we CAN fix this. All is not lost just yet.

optimism level is very low right now

trump has gained a key ally and will try to use SCOTUS to ensure that he does not lose the upcoming election, regardless of voting results

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 3:29:20am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

optimism level is very low right now

trump has gained a key ally and will try to use SCOTUS to ensure that he does not lose the upcoming election, regardless of voting results

I understand. I don’t disagree. I’m FORCING myself to say optimistic things right now, because I believe them, even though I don’t feel them. We CAN fix this. It’s just going to suck very badly for however long until we do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 3:34:51am

re: #218 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I understand. I don’t disagree. I’m FORCING myself to say optimistic things right now, because I believe them, even though I don’t feel them. We CAN fix this. It’s just going to suck very badly for however long until we do.

he is counting on most people being to honest and good-natured to deal with the level of major electoral fuckery he is going to whip on us and that we will be so gobsmacked that we do not realize what he has just dumped on us, and will not start to react until the damage has been done.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 4:09:23am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he is counting on most people being to honest and good-natured to deal with the level of major electoral fuckery he is going to whip on us and that we will be so gobsmacked that we do not realize what he has just dumped on us, and will not start to react until the damage has been done.

The thing is, I don’t want us to get so lost in aggressively defending our democracy that we forget our good and kind-hearted nature. Yes, we need to stand up to this bully, and to do what must be done to protect ourselves from both the current group of assholes, and any others who might come later who try to do the same thing. I just don’t want us to sacrifice our own souls in the process, becoming the very thing which we swore to destroy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 4:13:38am

re: #220 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The other issue is that our entire electoral system has been built up on the principle of mutual trust and goodwill and he is going to every thing he can to sow distrust and ill will to sabotage it. It is simply not robust or regulated enough to withstand such industrial-strength fuckery.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 4:20:22am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The other issue is that our entire electoral system has been built up on the principle of mutual trust and goodwill and he is going to every thing he can to sow distrust and ill will to sabotage it. It is simply not robust or regulated enough to withstand such industrial-strength fuckery.

I agree, and that is why I also agree that our campaign to our Democratic senators and congresscritters should be on writing legislation that enforces whatever we things have been considered “norms”, whether by ancient precedent or modern invention, with actionable penalties against any bad actor at any level - including the President. Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell have shown very clearly what can happen when bad actors are allowed to take power in a system built on trust and goodwill, and we can’t allow that to happen again. With that said, We’re not out of the fight yet. It’s not over until they round us up and kill us all, and I assure you - I have no intention of going quietly.

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BigPapa  Oct 27, 2020 • 4:31:29am

#RuthSentMe

Aggressively asking Biden if he intends to pack the courts is ruthlessly weaponized projection. The Banana Republicans have packed the courts for a decade. They now politicize and weaponize that concept to prop up their deceit and morally reprehensible skulduggery. If you believe in a just and fair society you will absolutely support a packing of the courts which will mean and unpacking or rebalancing of them to fix what the Banana Republicans have done.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 27, 2020 • 4:46:02am

Regarding the SCOTUS, the only thing Republicans need to be told is that they made their bed and they need to just be prepared to lay in it. #RuthSentMe

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2020 • 4:57:47am

re: #53 teleskiguy

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Why isn’t she home tending to them?

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:03:44am

Nevermind.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:06:28am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

optimism level is very low right now

trump has gained a key ally and will try to use SCOTUS to ensure that he does not lose the upcoming election, regardless of voting results

We new this was going to happen. Nothing changed from Sunday. We continue in and get people to vote.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:14:28am

A milestone today:

Whitney Houston’s Grammy-winning smash “I Will Always Love You” is the fourth song from the ’90s — and the first solo track from the decade — to join YouTube’s billion-views club.

Originally written and recorded by Dolly Parton in 1973, the song was recorded and released by Houston in 1992. The Houston version of “I Will Always Love You” topped the charts in the early part of that decade after it was featured in “The Bodyguard,” in which Houston co-starred with Kevin Costner. Houston’s rendition spent 14 weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and is one of the bestselling singles of all time.

The Houston power ballad joins three other ’90s favorites on YouTube’s billion-plus views list: Guns N’ Roses’ “November Rain,” Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit” and the Cranberries’ “Zombie.”

and no auto tune.

variety.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:28:56am

re: #227 Belafon

We new this was going to happen. Nothing changed from Sunday. We continue in and get people to vote.

Yep. We knew this was gonna happen. Just vote the bastards out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:39:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:49:52am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Trump has sparked a rise of “Patriot Churches.”

Time for Church and State to get back together, don’t you think?

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:50:54am

John Roberts has lost the court.
And his “legacy.”

to be fair, it’s not all his fault - he doesnt choose the makeup of the court.

now, when the balance has been forced to be so one sided and with obviously agenda driven zealots, John sitting there “calling balls and strikes” is gonna look all kinds of foolish.

- Decisions can now be predicted.
- The very cases likely to come before it can be predicted with a great degree of certainty.
Therefore the court has lost its legitimacy.

The court is not there as a last resort to undo social history that you can’t pass legislatively because there is no popular support.

Clearly revisiting and dismantling 50-100+ years of decisions is not going to be a great legacy for him.

While Johnny didn’t lose the court, he will be remembered as the man presiding over a lost court.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:54:45am

Lol, I am getting olds, at least I have heard of Lil Pump.

Lil Pump is the latest rapper to publicly support President Donald Trump.

The Florida rapper, whose real name is Gazzy Garcia, took to Instagram on Sunday to give Trump his official endorsement, first posting a photoshopped picture of himself with the president.
“All I gotta say is Trump 2020 b***h. F**k I look like paying 33 in tax for Biden, b**h a** n***a. F**k sleepy Joe n***a. Trump 2020 b***h,” Pump said.
(snip)
Fans were in an uproar on Thursday when Atlanta rapper Waka Flocka Flame insinuated that Trump was more fit for the presidency than his predecessor President Barack Obama.
(snip)
Curtis “50 Cent” Jackson sided with Trump after learning of Biden’s tax proposal as well. On October 19, he tweeted a screenshot of a Fox News segment which depicted just how heavily people in California, New York City, New York State and New Jersey would be taxed under Biden’s plan and wrote: “WHAT THE F*CK! (VOTE ForTRUMP) IM OUT, F*CK NEW YORK The KNICKS never win anyway. I don’t care Trump doesn’t like black people 62% are you out of ya fucking mind.”

newsweek.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:55:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 5:57:51am

JFC

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:05:25am

Assume facts not in evidence. There are five hyper-partisan reactionary justices - Roberts is one too, so six. His legacy will be the corruption of ‘murika and the destruction of rights. I expect he is fine with that.

It’s up to John Roberts to save his court

Monday’s Senate confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court, preceded by a pell-mell scramble to seat her before next week’s election and followed by an unseemly campaign-style celebration at the White House, shreds whatever remained of the high court’s integrity and independence.

Whether the court regains its independence or cements itself as a third partisan branch of government is now largely up to Chief Justice John Roberts. If he does not act, and fast, to mitigate the court’s politicization, Democrats will be fully justified in expanding the court’s membership to restore balance — and indeed will face a public outcry if they don’t.

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A Cranky One  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:09:21am

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:09:21am

I look forward to ACB’s future votes fucking over Donnie’s white trash base. And yet, they will be happy about it because they are fucking sheeple.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:10:55am

re: #239 Dr. Matt

I look forward to ACB’s future votes fucking over Donnie’s white trash base. And yet, they will be happy about it because they are fucking sheeple.

A lot of them will be happy about it and then when her rulings negatively impact their lives, like good Republican sheep they’ll blame the Dems.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:14:18am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:16:52am

re: #225 Eventual Carrion

Why isn’t she home tending to them?

Bwaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa.

Cute. That’s what nannies are for, doesn’t everyone have one?

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jeffreyw  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:20:25am

Good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:23:29am

re: #243 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

ZOMBIE DEER!

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:25:00am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:25:18am

re: #209 Dread Pirate Ron

RIP to the Fox producer who’s been there since 1999?

Rest in hell!

Seriously, we’re supposed to feel what here?

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:26:30am
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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:28:17am
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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:29:25am

re: #233 dangerman

John Roberts has lost the court.
And his “legacy.”

to be fair, it’s not all his fault - he doesnt choose the makeup of the court.

now, when the balance has been forced to be so one sided and with obviously agenda driven zealots, John sitting there “calling balls and strikes” is gonna look all kinds of foolish.

- Decisions can now be predicted.
- The very cases likely to come before it can be predicted with a great degree of certainty.
Therefore the court has lost its legitimacy.

The court is not there as a last resort to undo social history that you can’t pass legislatively because there is no popular support.

Clearly revisiting and dismantling 50-100+ years of decisions is not going to be a great legacy for him.

While Johnny didn’t lose the court, he will be remembered as the man presiding over a lost court.

He doesn’t really care - his only purpose on the court has been clear: The absolute theft of voting rights from anyone who is not rich, white and male. He doesn’t care about abortion, ACA or LGBT rights, those decisions aren’t important to him. No, the only thing Johnny cares about is restricting voting. Just look at the history of his decisions.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:33:28am

re: #166 TarHellion

What is wrong with counting votes? Hell, look to the election of 1916 when California was decided by 3,773 votes and New Hampshire by 56 votes.

As a political science graduate, I never could have imagined that in our country the simple act of voting and the total votes tabulated would be called into general question. THIS is how democracies die. The classes I took and the classes I taught mentioned how fragile a democratically-elected republic could be. I never imagined that the enemy of this system would exist from within.

Counting votes is fine as long as they’re our votes. //

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b.d.  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:35:37am

Good morning Lizards!

Thanks Mike!

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A Cranky One  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:43:02am

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:43:16am

re: #251 b.d.

Good morning Lizards!

Thanks Mike!

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Strangely enough, I think the best kind of ad Bloomberg could make, especially here in the DFW area, would be an ad featuring Bloomberg. Any other ad is going to get lost in the ads running.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:43:33am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:44:36am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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b.d.  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:46:17am

re: #253 Belafon

Strangely enough, I think the best kind of ad Bloomberg could make, especially here in the DFW area, would be an ad featuring Bloomberg. Any other ad is going to get lost in the ads running.

His primary ads were good and gave him momentum until Warren gutted him live and on stage.

The ads begin running Wednesday and will go through Election Day, or Nov. 3. In Texas, the ads will focus on “[President Donald] Trump’s mismanagement of COVID-19 crisis,” according to a Bloomberg spokesperson. The commercials will run in both English and Spanish.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:50:56am

Don’t let the conman fool you. If we vote him out in the numbers I think we will, no court is going to install him as President. Good polling numbers turned Georgia light blue this morning (still a tossup), and increased Biden’s lead in Pennsylvania.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:53:55am

Oh boy. I just scheduled my first COVID-19 test for tomorrow afternoon, following my news from yesterday. Mrs. Fish insisted, for the family’s safety, and I can understand her point.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:54:16am

re: #49 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I know you do and I honestly respectfully disagree. I think the Philly burbs and the Scranton area will provide the margin of his victory. I don’t think the fracking stuff is the deal breaker. I don’t see the margin as being as big as it will be in Michigan or Wisconsin but I think it will be a steady win for Joe in Pennsylvania. And the good news is the campaign seems to see how important it is per Obama’s appearance in Philly last week and I think Joe was in Delaware County today.

That’s how I feel as well. The urban centers in PA are deep blue so I’m optimistic that Biden will win overall.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:54:37am

Breaking: A federal judge denied the DOJ to intervene in Donnie’s rape defamation lawsuit brought by E. Jean Carroll.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:55:09am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You beat me to it.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:55:46am

re: #257 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:57:13am

re: #261 Dr. Matt

You beat me to it.

That’s OK, have an upding anyway.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:57:14am

Down the fucking rabbit hole.

Trump’s USPS sabotages ability to process mail as efficiently and effectively as before Trump took office. The sabotage was coordinated to time with election returns by mail as we’re dealing with a fucking pandemic that Trump has botched the response for.

Trump’s Supreme Court is intent on gaming the rules to benefit Trump by restricting time by which people can return ballots and have them counted. We’d have to ignore that the USPS got fucked up by Trump’s handpicked thugs to make it harder to vote by mail (when we get photo of Ivanka and Jared showing off their mail in ballots, it makes me want to rip their heart out Mola Ram style and feed it to them, but only after showing it off Ivanka style). We know they’ll get their votes counted, but the GOP is suing in states all around the nation to thwart counting ballots received after Election Day, even though it’s indisputable that the USPS has been fucked up by the Trump admin with the express purpose of denying people having their votes counted by slowing return rates.

The extensions of time apply to all state residents who vote by mail, not merely some group of people, or some counties. That’s why anyone mentioning Bush v. Gore needs to stuff it. There’s no disproportionate or discriminatory action here in allowing vote by mail to have ballots counted after election day - if the returns were postmarked before election day, it should count even if received after. The receipt is on the corrupted USPS, not the voter. The voter did their duty. Trump’s failed.

The GOP have no intention of governing all Americans or protecting rights of all Americans. They’re a party of racist misogynists, and their actions and outcomes are evident for all to see.

Fuck ‘em all. Vote as if your life depends on it (because it fucking does as the GOP is in court to deny millions their health coverage, suing to make it easier to hike premiums on nearly half of all Americans with preexisting conditions, along with gutting the safety net programs up to and including Medicare, Medicaid, Social Secuirty, and SNAP - during a pandemic no less).

GOP delenda est. When (if) Democrats win, Democrats need to engage in scorched earth tactics to undo the criminal conduct by the past administration. Grow Congress. Grow the judiciary. Grow the Supreme Court. Prosecute the fuckers in Trumpworld. Seat Democrats at DOJ, FBI, and dismantle ICE and BCP as the corrupt thugocracies Trump has enabled. End immunity for the president so that he can be indicted on federal charges (Trump was and is an unindicted coconspirator on Cohen’s felony case - he should have been indicted but for DOJ policy saying you can’t indict a sitting president, which functionally makes him above the law). No one should be above the law.

Don’t let the caterwauling of the GOP stop Democrats from doing what must be done. The GOP shredded comity and ignored centuries of practice to shrink the judiciary under President Obama only to pack the courts with unqualified right wing hacks including Barrett. GOP control means that they operate with impunity. They game the rules to protect their minority control over the nation. End it.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2020 • 6:58:17am

re: #257 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Don’t let the conman fool you. If we vote him out in the numbers I think we will, no court is going to install him as President. Good polling numbers turned Georgia light blue this morning (still a tossup), and increased Biden’s lead in Pennsylvania.

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And I’ll say it again - if we get to midnight and Biden is in the lead, you can bet every goddamn thing that Trump will be screaming to keep counting the votes.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:00:17am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, we know very little about any long-term effects of Covid. Herd Immunity was simply pushed because it seemed to offer the least economic damage to countries like the UK and USA where politicians were worried about how damage to the economy would hurt their chances of re-election.

The sad part again is that people will rally around a strong leader even in times of social or even economic crises, if they show strong leadership and act in the country’s benefit.

But Trump has neither the knowledge, character nor the right people in place to offer such leadership, hence the excuses like “I didn’t want to cause a panic”, etc…

Herd immunity was pushed because it requires the least amount of work

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:01:04am

re: #262 Patricia Kayden

Fuck the GOP scum after lecturing us they have “the constitutional right” to seat ACB.
The same constitution doesn’t say the winner has to be known on election night.

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BigPapa  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:01:30am

re: #266 dangerman

Herd immunity was pushed because it requires the least amount of work

The Cult of Bootstraps is actually lazy? GTFO! NO WAY!

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jeffreyw  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:03:43am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

ZOMBIE DEER!

Grains! Grains!

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:05:01am

re: #265 makeitstop

And I’ll say it again - if we get to midnight and Biden is in the lead, you can bet every goddamn thing that Trump will be screaming to keep counting the votes.

We should set-up a bingo card of the Donnie’s reactions on elections night:

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:10:11am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes we always had a Birch Church back home. And we ridiculed the assholes that went there every Sunday. They would staple their mimeographed sheets on telephone poles where we’d look and laugh at them before they were torn off.

But now the Internet has powered and mainstreamed those assholes.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:10:27am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:13:21am

re: #272 jaunte

Two of those senators were not elected, they were appointed.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:14:54am

re: #240 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

A lot of them will be happy about it and then when her rulings negatively impact their lives, like good Republican sheep they’ll blame the Dems.

Read the Daily Kos diaries documenting white racists terminally ill refusing to sign up for what they call “N-CLANG care” especially those who say they are willing to die for their race and want the ACA gone because they want to hurt colored people and queers.

Among those assholes are relatives of mine with disabled children who refuse to sign up for “N-Word” care and instead rely on their church, 7-11 coin cans and GoFundMe.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:15:23am
a legitimately elected President

Marco doth protest too much. What does he know?

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:16:31am

re: #273 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Two of those senators were not elected, they were appointed.

The President was also the loser of the majority vote and possibly not legitimately elected; the nominee was not highly qualified, and was, in fact, not qualified at all; and the whole thing was a sham deliberately designed by the GOP to have enough of a veneer of legality to satisfy the base whilst doing nothing but securing their own power for the rest of their lives.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:18:38am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:21:24am

You know what would be funny. If everyone that already voted (For Biden) went out to red districts the night before, camped out and just kept circling to the back of the line whenever it was their turn to enter the polling station. See how the cult likes waiting for hours in line to vote. I bet many would give up.

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:24:39am
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jaunte  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:25:45am
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Egregious Philbin  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:27:17am

re: #258 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I got covid back in early June when the state was overwhelmed. My mate got it at the behavioral health hospital she works at from a nurse that wasn’t wearing a mask, she got in and got a test and results in 2 days, it took me 3 days to get a test and 8 to get results, but I knew I had it, thankfully it wasn’t horrible. Fast forward, and another wave has hit her hospital, the top two execs (who never wore masks) got it, bad. Hospitalization and all that, neither are back to work after 3 weeks. Its real, it sucks. We gave it 1/2 star on Yelp.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:27:47am

re: #270 Dr. Matt

If it’s obvious that Biden has won by 11:00 pm or so, Biden shouldn’t wait for Trump to concede. Biden should go ahead and give a victory speech. Romney pulled that nonsense in 2012 when he waited way past a reasonable hour to give a concession speech although President Obama was easily re-elected.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:30:05am

re: #272 jaunte

Democrats in the Senate should be sharpening their knives right about now. They know what has to be done in our judiciary.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:31:10am

re: #281 Egregious Philbin

Oof, that hurts. This is the second time we’ve had a close exposure, though in all previous cases we have been negative. I’m expecting a negative result here, since I haven’t interacted with any of the individuals in question or contacted by any contact tracing, either from the state or from the church.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:31:47am

re: #282 Patricia Kayden

If it’s obvious that Biden has won by 11:00 pm or so, Biden shouldn’t wait for Trump to concede. Biden should go ahead and give a victory speech. Romney pulled that nonsense in 2012 when he waited way past a reasonable hour to give a concession speech although President Obama was easily re-elected.

Trump may run his own victory speech even if he’s behind 150 EV. Why? Because he’s going to try and bully his way into remaining in power to avoid prosecution after he leaves office. He’s going to crow about how all the mail in ballots don’t count and that the polling is rigged and that he wins on the votes cast (he isn’t expected to).

It’s going to be one hell of a shitshow, and the media is going to enable this crap too, when they run the numbers election night.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:31:55am
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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:31:57am

re: #282 Patricia Kayden

If it’s obvious that Biden has won by 11:00 pm or so, Biden shouldn’t wait for Trump to concede. Biden should go ahead and give a victory speech. Romney pulled that nonsense in 2012 when he waited way past a reasonable hour to give a concession speech although President Obama was easily re-elected.

Yep. If we’re headed for a Bush v. Gore scenario, then Biden should follow the Bush playbook - declare victory and put Trump back on his heels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:33:45am

re: #266 dangerman

Herd immunity was pushed because it requires the least amount of work

and causes the least economic damage.

the human damage is seen as acceptable collateral risk

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:33:57am

re: #275 jaunte

Marco doth protest too much. What does he know?

Fake piety. I hope the DSCC has him in mind for a target in 2022. He’s only still a Senator because he thought Trump would lose in 2016 and he’d be able portray himself as the right’s Obama this year.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:35:00am

re: #283 Patricia Kayden

Democrats in the Senate should be sharpening their knives right about now. They know what has to be done in our judiciary.

January 3rd…Democrats take over the Senate and send Kavanaugh a subpoena to appear and disclose what Sugar Daddy paid off his bills…Kavanaugh refuses…then Special Prosecutor Richard Painter indicts him on tax evasion charges…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:36:36am

re: #286 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Well yeah. We’re in a pandemic. Every day we are reminded of that. A sketchy NY Post story about Hunter who has no role in his father’s presidential team isn’t gonna change minds and then Javanka remind us of their intimate involvement in Dumbo’s when they sue the LP.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:37:08am

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

January 3rd…Democrats take over the Senate and send Kavanaugh a subpoena to appear and disclose what Sugar Daddy paid off his bills…Kavanaugh refuses…then Special Prosecutor Richard Painter indicts him on tax evasion charges…

I’m still amazed that this hasn’t been somehow leaked by now.

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:39:33am

While we’re expanding the House (how many seats would fit into the chamber? 600, 650? and the courts (a supreme for every circuit; and are some of the circuits too big, too unwieldy, too many cases, maybe some of them should be split in half), we also need to expand the immigration courts. There’s a huge backlog of people who are legitimately entitled to a hearing before a judge.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:41:02am

re: #279 sagehen

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Klain needs to be a key part of Biden’s WH staff. I think Chief of Staff sounds good. He’s got the experience and a working relationship with Biden.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:42:54am

re: #293 sagehen

While we’re expanding the House (how many seat would fit into the chamber? 600, 650? and the courts (a supreme for every circuit; and are some of the circuits too big, too unwieldy, too many cases, maybe some of them should be split in half), we also need to expand the immigration courts. There’s a huge backlog of people who are legitimately entitled to a hearing before a judge.

I think the 5th, 9th, and 11th should be split. The Supreme Court should match the overall number of circuits, as had been the case for decades. Require that the Senate must consider and vote on all judicial nominations regardless of party - up/down vote.

More/better representation in Congress is a good thing. GOP knows that growing Congress and the EC would undermine their control further, because they are already a minority party.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:43:05am

Alternative facts, “Real” polls.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:44:19am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:44:56am

Lre: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

Alternative facts, “Real” polls.

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Gonna be all the more sweeter when he’s clobbered but hey maybe he’ll get crowds for his last speech before Albany indicts him and his brats.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:46:44am

I awoke this morning from uneasy dreams to find myself transformed into a gigantic…. DOOMSCROLLER!

Lizards are such Debbie Downers.

All this bullshit to overturn the election can only happen in states where the vote totals are razor thin.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:47:29am

re: #295 lawhawk

I think the 5th, 9th, and 11th should be split. The Supreme Court should match the overall number of circuits, as had been the case for decades. Require that the Senate must consider and vote on all judicial nominations regardless of party - up/down vote.

More/better representation in Congress is a good thing. GOP knows that growing Congress and the EC would undermine their control further, because they are already a minority party.

I definitely think increasing it would be good. Nothing says we have to be at 435-100-9 forever. We’ve just accepted it. I think new states could be a great moment for our country going forward. DC and PR are already closer to the lower 48 than Hawaii and Alaska.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:47:55am

re: #299 The Pie Overlord!

I awoke this morning from uneasy dreams to find myself transformed in a gigantic…. DOOMSCROLLER!

Lizards are such Debbie Downers.

All this bullshit to overturn the election can only happen in states where the vote totals are razor thin.

I’m not saying it’s gonna happen, but I am having trouble being optimistic.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:49:00am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

Alternative facts, “Real” polls.

A 53% from Rasmussen means 47% in reality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:49:11am

re: #300 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I definitely think increasing it would be good. Nothing says we have to be at 435-100-9 forever. We’ve just accepted it. I think new states could be a great moment for our country going forward. DC and PR are already closer to the lower 48 than Hawaii and Alaska.

And while we are ruling based on about accepted “norms”, when was the first time that America had definitive electoral results on election day eve? Remember “Dewey Defeats Truman?”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:50:55am

re: #299 The Pie Overlord!

I awoke this morning from uneasy dreams to find myself transformed into a gigantic…. DOOMSCROLLER!

Lizards are such Debbie Downers.

All this bullshit to overturn the election can only happen in states where the vote totals are razor thin.

I woke up and saw Biden and Ossoff are both over 50% in Georgia. And you’re absolutely right VB. That overturn crap can only happen in razor thin margins. What made 2000 in Florida possible was that it was so close. I can see Biden winning between 1-5% there and that’s not enough. We can do this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:51:00am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And while we are at accepting “norms”, when was the first time that America had definitive electoral results on election day eve? Remember “Dewey Defeats Truman?”

That was the result of a newspaper making a particularly early call based on their assumptions of how the rest of the night would go.

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Egregious Philbin  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:51:18am

re: #284 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I had only one day of fever, she had 4. Lots of fatigue, loss of taste/smell, and I have had nasty sinus/allergy headaches ever since. We are both well now, but it sucked, not so much that we thought that we would be in danger, but that we might have exposed others.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:52:55am

One more week, while everything looks like it is going the right way I can’t help but be stressed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:53:06am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And while we are at accepting “norms”, when was the first time that America had definitive electoral results on election day eve? Remember “Dewey Defeats Truman?”

You can go more recently. Bush wasn’t declared the victor over Kerry until the day after. As for Dewey v Truman, Biden isn’t complacent like Dewey was and Trump isn’t the sharp campaigner that Truman was.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:55:42am

Look at all the side-eye going on in this clip.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:58:12am

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

That was the result of a newspaper making a particularly early call based on their assumptions of how the rest of the night would go.

Yes and polling was much different then. Oh and hello pandemic. Guys it’s an elephant in the room that Trump can’t run from.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:58:47am

re: #299 The Pie Overlord!

I awoke this morning from uneasy dreams to find myself transformed into a gigantic…. DOOMSCROLLER!

Lizards are such Debbie Downers.

All this bullshit to overturn the election can only happen in states where the vote totals are razor thin.

Red shift is 5%. In electoral terms, 5% is a solid win, and for 20 years, Republicans have simply discarded votes until a 5% loss turns into a win. They will do so again.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 27, 2020 • 7:58:53am

re: #243 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:00:43am

re: #309 The Pie Overlord!

Look at all the side-eye going on in this clip.

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I really hate how dumb people are sometimes. I have a friend who wrote in Hamrabe. Knowing what John Lewis and millions of others experienced like him to get that right and people wrote in a dead fucking gorilla. Nihilistic bullshit and taking progress as inevitable got us here. The future bends towards progress but as citizens we must always be vigilant.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:00:55am
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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:01:59am

re: #290 🌹UOJB!

January 3rd…Democrats take over the Senate and send Kavanaugh a subpoena to appear and disclose what Sugar Daddy paid off his bills…Kavanaugh refuses…then Special Prosecutor Richard Painter indicts him on tax evasion charges…

And since we’re gaming things out…

If it happens that Dems take both houses of Congress and Trump ‘wins,’ by whatever means, Pelosi should announce that the impeachment hearings for Donald J. Trump will proceed by November 6 - this time with the House of Representatives fully exercising their powers of inherent contempt.

Hearings will run until January 20, 2021. Just to keep them from further gumming up the works. And a vote for removal immediately following Trump’s swearing in.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:03:19am

re: #314 lawhawk

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We need to make him the most hated man in politics after Trump. Paint him for what he if. An out of touch extremist only out to protect the GOP donor class and fringe values out of touch with the average American.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:04:42am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m not saying it’s gonna happen, but I am having trouble being optimistic.

“I used to be a pessimist before I gave up…” Pat Paulsen

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:05:20am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:07:44am

re: #318 lawhawk

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I want him on trial for his gross criminal negligence in this.

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nines09  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:08:05am
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:08:12am

re: #295 lawhawk

I think the 5th, 9th, and 11th should be split. The Supreme Court should match the overall number of circuits, as had been the case for decades. Require that the Senate must consider and vote on all judicial nominations regardless of party - up/down vote.

More/better representation in Congress is a good thing. GOP knows that growing Congress and the EC would undermine their control further, because they are already a minority party.

Doesn’t splitting the ninth mean two circuits for one state, California? Not my area, but I’ve been hearing that it would cause all sorts of problems for the state.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:08:34am

re: #319 🌹UOJB!

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Yeah because that’s what we need. A President who has to have the camera on him 24/7/365.

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Dizzy  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:09:50am

re: #309 The Pie Overlord!

Look at all the side-eye going on in this clip.

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My mother would have called this person a ‘yutz’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:10:39am

re: #321 nines09

Do none of these assholes ever consider wearing masks?

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:10:58am

recovery running began 272 days ago
in the beginning it was just every other day
i was allowed to start every day 249 days ago
i’ve taken 4 days off out of the last 249 days
16 out of the total 272

and today is day 200 of my run every day insanity

last 7 days i’ve run 69 miles, averaging just over an hour and a half a day

over the last 30 days, 240 miles, averaging 1:15 a day

I log minutes, not miles. i estimate maybe 1,250-1,350 miles since I began.

today is day 6 of the keys 100 miles in 10 days virtual race
klys and I are both doing well.

and 4 more days of the WWF Species Step Challenge remain.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:11:25am

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

Do none of these assholes ever consider wearing masks?

Nope, because they’re not trying to control the pandemic. They literally just want life as usual to resume, and to hell with anyone who gets sick or dies.

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steve_davis  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:13:14am

re: #4 TarHellion

Got CL’d

After 2012 the Republicans had a choice. And they chose to become a party of White supremacists. They could have been de Klerk. Instead they opted for Botha.

This will not end well.

What will prevent them from declaring us “enemy combatants?”

So many authoritarian regimes derived their power from “democratic” means. And the flaws within our Constitution - from the Connecticut Compromise to the Electoral College - will have allowed the unimaginable become reality.

the beautiful thing is that the electoral college is fixing to become the device that keeps Democrats in power nationally for at least a couple of generations. Once Texas and Georgia go blue, there will really be no path back to the white house for Republicans.

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:13:53am

re: #322 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

The 9th covers a huge geographical area: Hawaii, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Arizona, and California. Splitting it could leave California in its own circuit and the other states being in a new circuit or circuits. All would start off having adopted the 9th precedent, and they can diverge over time.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:15:58am

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

Do none of these assholes ever consider wearing masks?

No.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:16:22am

re: #329 lawhawk

The 9th covers a huge geographical area: Hawaii, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, and California. Splitting it could leave California in its own circuit and the other states being in a new circuit. All would start off having adopted the 9th precedent, and they can diverge over time.

Okay, that works, except it leaves the state with a larger population to serve than any of the others. Do all the circuits need to have the same number of judges?

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:17:48am

re: #279 sagehen

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- for an election to be legitimate, all legally cast votes must be canvassed and counted.
- counting the votes is an entirely separate process from controlling the casting of votes.
- any requirement that all votes must be counted by the end of the last day to cast an in-person vote is arbitrary and a meaningless ‘correlation’.
- yes there needs to be a limit on when counting stops after election night. could be a few days, a week, or more. even 2 weeks is not unreasonable.

- finally, there must be a uniform definition of when a non-in-person vote is ‘cast’

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:20:08am

re: #278 GlutenFreeJesus

You know what would be funny. If everyone that already voted (For Biden) went out to red districts the night before, camped out and just kept circling to the back of the line whenever it was their turn to enter the polling station. See how the cult likes waiting for hours in line to vote. I bet many would give up.

Dear Tik Tok Kids,

Here’s your marching orders for November 3.

Go forth to the suburbs and exurbs and do your thing!

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:21:18am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and causes the least economic damage.

the human damage is seen as acceptable collateral risk

that may be a factor now
i dont think it was then

then i think it was the easiest ‘strategy’ to pretend to have because otherwise they had nothing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:22:10am

A friend and I were video chatting over breakfast today and she said she felt that if Trump was running against a woman or a person of color (or a combination thereof), there’s a good chance he would win despite this Pandemic.

Sad part is, I think she’s probably right about that.

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steve_davis  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:22:37am

re: #40 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Which is why we need to get enough Senators so we don’t need the votes of Manchin or Feinstein. At least 52.

I have read that it is at least possible 8 seats could flip. In a blue tidal wave, maybe.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:23:03am

re: #328 steve_davis

the beautiful thing is that the electoral college is fixing to become the device that keeps Democrats in power nationally for at least a couple of generations. Once Texas and Georgia go blue, there will really be no path back to the white house for Republicans.

I think North Carolina grows more blue too. A lot of what we first saw here in Virginia is happening throughout the urban/suburban South. It’s why NC, GA, & TX are competitive and why SC is in the Senate. Keep on going back to this but Trump could well be the right as we know it’s final Pyrrhic victory.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:24:11am

re: #335 Eclectic Cyborg

A friend and I were video chatting over breakfast today and she said she felt that if Trump was running against a woman or a person of color (or a combination thereof), there’s a good chance he would win despite this Pandemic.

Sad part is, I think she’s probably right about that.

Without a doubt. 100%.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:25:03am

re: #299 The Pie Overlord!

I awoke this morning from uneasy dreams to find myself transformed into a gigantic…. DOOMSCROLLER!

Lizards are such Debbie Downers.

All this bullshit to overturn the election can only happen in states where the vote totals are razor thin.

electoral-vote.com has a good counter to the gloom and doom politico story yesterday about everything that could go wrong (most of which, as you say, cant)

Six Reasons Not to Panic About the Election [go here for their summary]

Yesterday, we had a summary of a Politico item listing some of the many things that could go wrong with the election. Let us now summarize a counterpoint [go here for the politico article] the site ran a couple of weeks ago under the headline “6 Reasons Not to Panic About the Election”:

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:27:46am

re: #317 🌹UOJB!

“I used to be a pessimist before I gave up…” Pat Paulsen

i used to be disgusted, now i try to be amused….

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:28:08am

re: #331 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Okay, that works, except it leaves the state with a larger population to serve than any of the others. Do all the circuits need to have the same number of judges?

There’s no relationship between population and circuit size. They don’t need the same number of judges either. The issue is more about the docket size than population size. Some circuits generate more cases than others. NY, CA as part of the 2d and 9th generate more than other circuits, but that’s because they’re business centers. SD and DE also generate cases because that’s where companies form for business reasons.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:30:45am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

I’m still amazed that this hasn’t been somehow leaked by now.

The brain dead DC Press Corpse is too busy fabricating the horse race bullshit.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:31:02am

re: #278 GlutenFreeJesus

You know what would be funny. If everyone that already voted (For Biden) went out to red districts the night before, camped out and just kept circling to the back of the line whenever it was their turn to enter the polling station. See how the cult likes waiting for hours in line to vote. I bet many would give up.

Just go about 2/3 of the way, and disappear for a few minutes before lining up, that way no one recognizes you. It would still have the same effect.

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:31:40am

re: #305 Eclectic Cyborg

That was the result of a newspaper making a particularly early call based on their assumptions of how the rest of the night would go.

More-or-less correct: however, I believe the actual circumstances were more that it wasn’t an “early” call, but a very late one: I think it was that the pressmen at the Chicago Tribune (famously owned by a rabid Republican wingnut) had had two front pages set up to run depending on the results, and since late returns from the West hadn’t been certified by their “drop-dead” press time, they went with the one that seemed likeliest (and they knew would please their boss). The rest, as they say, is history….

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:31:49am

re: #309 The Pie Overlord!

Look at all the side-eye going on in this clip.

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this clip fully validates everything I think and feel about Bernie and his supporters.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:33:46am

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

Do none of these assholes ever consider wearing masks?

Now why would they need masks when they done got Jay-Zuss?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:35:18am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

His bank knows all, unless he avoided the banking system in its entirety - which would be rather interesting in of itself.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:35:26am

re: #345 sagehen

this clip fully validates everything I think and feel about Bernie and his supporters.

I hate what Bernie did to left politics. I appreciate what he’s doing for Biden now but I don’t forgive 2016 and I still think he misleads people about economics. Our battle has never been socialism vs capitalism. I’m a capitalist. I also believe that we could benefit from more social democracy while at the same time wanting us to encourage and stimulate small businesses.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:36:07am

Praise The Lawd and Pass The Oxycontin!

GOP lawmaker in Tennessee admits to prescribing opioids to his second cousin — who was also his lover

An attorney for Tennessee Sen. Joey Hensley conceded Monday the politician, a small-town doctor, prescribed opioids to family members and an employee with whom he was in a romantic relationship, in what the state contends is a violation of medical ethics.

During opening arguments in a medical discipline proceeding, attorney David Steed said it was well-intentioned, harmless and all but unavoidable for Hensley to prescribe to relatives in a small Tennessee town where he is the only available drug pusher doctor

tennessean.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:36:43am

re: #344 Jay C

More-or-less correct: however, I believe the actual circumstances were more that it wasn’t an “early” call, but a very late one: I think it was that the pressmen at the Chicago Tribune (famously owned by a rabid Republican wingnut) had had two front pages set up to run depending on the results, and since late returns from the West hadn’t been certified by their “drop-dead” press time, they went with the one that seemed likeliest (and they knew would please their boss). The rest, as they say, is history….

Robert McCormack, chair of the original America First Movement.

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BeachDem  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:41:02am

re: #294 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Klain needs to be a key part of Biden’s WH staff. I think Chief of Staff sounds good. He’s got the experience and a working relationship with Biden.

According to Bloomberg:

Longtime Democratic aide Ron Klain is the leading candidate to be presidential nominee Joe Biden’s chief of staff if Biden wins the election, according to several people familiar with the situation.

bloomberg.com

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:45:31am

re: #328 steve_davis

the beautiful thing is that the electoral college is fixing to become the device that keeps Democrats in power nationally for at least a couple of generations. Once Texas and Georgia go blue, there will really be no path back to the white house for Republicans.

This.
And yes, a hearty Heh! to the notion: I’m guessing that (as with a lot of other things) calls to “reform” a “corrupt system” will become somewhat muted when said system turns out to work in “Our” favor, rather than “Theirs”….

That said, though: That said, I’d disagree that (TX and GA aside) there is NO path to another/any future GOP President: I’m just thinking that the big hope would have to be that said candidate would be more of a “Romney” than a “Trump”…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:48:25am

moron

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:48:40am

re: #352 Jay C

I’m just thinking that the big hope would have to be that said candidate would be more of a “Romney” than a “Trump”…

Just imagine the 2024 GOP shitshow with Cruz, Gym Neighbors, Marky Marco, KKKotton, Nimrod Nimrata and Princess Ivanka…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:49:00am

re: #351 BeachDem

According to Bloomberg:

Longtime Democratic aide Ron Klain is the leading candidate to be presidential nominee Joe Biden’s chief of staff if Biden wins the election, according to several people familiar with the situation.

bloomberg.com

I’m a good scout aren’t I? :) I’ve also been pushing for Judge a Brown-Jackson to replace her old boss, Justice Breyer while it seems like everyone else thinks it will be Michelle Obama. I love Mrs. Obama. A great FLOTUS and stateswoman but she doesn’t want this. After this, I hope her, Barack, & the girls take a nice trip together. They’ve earned it.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:50:33am

Another reason why I haven’t watched Today in years.

Falling for a flat-out GOP fabrication, NBC’s “Today” show on Monday maligned Joe Biden by suggesting he forgot who he was running against during the final days of the campaign. The morning wake-up show then compounded its error by not apologizing for the egregious mistake, and instead offered up a timid explanation for how the news show got duped by the Trump campaign.

pressrun.media

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:54:13am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:54:25am

Once a pussy beta snowflake, always a pussy beta snowflake:

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:54:55am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

😐😑

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Teukka  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:56:38am

Continuing pattern of high value targets being targeted for data theft and then extorted for money. There are strong indications the actors are a russian grouping, tho whether it is state sponsored or not is unclear at this juncture. This time it’s the Gunnebo security firm, last time it was the Finnish health care firm Vastaamo. I really, really hope this isn’t a sign of things to come :(

Iframe


Sensitive information, such as bank vault layouts, alarm systems and even Swedish Parliament building documents has been hacked from a Swedish security company.
After failing to secure a ransom, the hackers made good of their threat to place the files on the Internet’s dark web.
We spoke to the company in question, as well as two IT experts to hear their thoughts on the data breach.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:56:51am

re: #334 dangerman

that may be a factor now
i dont think it was then

then i think it was the easiest ‘strategy’ to pretend to have because otherwise they had nothing.

In the case of the UK, they knew that between Brexit and Covid, the economy would tank. And Trump was worried about losing revenue streams from his highly-leveraged properties.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:58:59am

O_o

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 8:59:09am

re: #360 Teukka

Continuing pattern of high value targets being targeted for data theft and then extorted for money. There are strong indications the actors are a russian grouping, tho whether it is state sponsored or not is unclear at this juncture. This time it’s the Gunnebo security firm, last time it was the Finnish health care firm Vastaamo. I really, really hope this isn’t a sign of things to come :(

Nope, they are just getting warmed up. We have to get used to living in a world where nothing can be kept secret.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:00:05am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

Does the author of that endorsement drink himself/herself to sleep every night?

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:00:10am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

What is he talking about?

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Teukka  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:01:08am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nope, they are just getting warmed up. We have to get used to living in a world where nothing can be kept secret.

And where not dancing to some foreign dicktaters tune means their secret police forces going after your soft IT targets.
Also, extorsion like above could be a revenue stream which is harder to tie to a state directly.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:01:24am

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Did you expect anything else from the Moonie Moron Journal?

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:01:29am

re: #356 🌹UOJB!

Another reason why I haven’t watched Today in years.

Falling for a flat-out GOP fabrication, NBC’s “Today” show on Monday maligned Joe Biden by suggesting he forgot who he was running against during the final days of the campaign. The morning wake-up show then compounded its error by not apologizing for the egregious mistake, and instead offered up a timid explanation for how the news show got duped by the Trump campaign.

pressrun.media

in the last debate, biden also called trump ‘abraham lincoln’ to his face

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:02:17am

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:06:11am

re: #184 TarHellion

…..

And now a Supreme Court implicitly says that at 12:00 a.m. on Wednesday, November 4, 2020, the election will end.

….

Whatever Kavanaugh (may his soul rot in perdition for all time) may have said, the ruling applies only to Wisconsin, which apparently has an explicit law that the ballots must be returned by November 3. I believe that the other justices did not so rule. So it’s more limited in scope.

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nines09  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:06:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:07:03am

re: #365 Belafon

What is he talking about?

I was hoping someone would know, because I sure don’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:08:59am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:10:12am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kavanaugh is who he is, a partisan operative in judges’ robes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:11:25am

re: #233 dangerman

John Roberts has lost the court.
And his “legacy.”

to be fair, it’s not all his fault - he doesnt choose the makeup of the court.


While Johnny didn’t lose the court, he will be remembered as the man presiding over a lost court.

It is his legacy — he is a total piece of trash, just like every other Republican. He did have a few good rulings: preservation of the ACA and authorization of the release of the Trump tax returns. But his gutting of the VRA and his abominable Citizens United ruling has left this country in shatters. Whenever it comes to limiting voting, he is on board. If our nation survives, may his name be as reviled as that of Roger Taney.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:16:21am

re: #283 Patricia Kayden

Democrats in the Senate should be sharpening their knives right about now. They know what has to be done in our judiciary.

Let’s wait for the results of November 3rd first. If we triumph, then we can talk about retribution; otherwise we are tempting the fates and a successful GOP will adopt these measures to end hope permanently.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:19:42am

Llre: #376 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s wait for the results of November 3rd first. If we triumph, then we can talk about retribution; otherwise we are tempting the fates and a successful GOP will adopt these measures to end hope permanently.

We need to give them a mandate. I think we will.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:19:48am

re: #376 Hecuba’s daughter

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:22:21am

re: #315 makeitstop

And since we’re gaming things out…

If it happens that Dems take both houses of Congress and Trump ‘wins,’ by whatever means, Pelosi should announce that the impeachment hearings for Donald J. Trump will proceed by November 6 - this time with the House of Representatives fully exercising their powers of inherent contempt.

Hearings will run until January 20, 2021. Just to keep them from further gumming up the works. And a vote for removal immediately following Trump’s swearing in.

Even if the Democrats win the Senate, they will not have sufficient votes to evict Trump. He will continue to mock our institutions and escape any consequences.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:23:23am

re: #333 i(m)p(each)sos

Dear Tik Tok Kids,

Here’s your marching orders for November 3.

Go forth to the suburbs and exurbs and do your thing!

They usually aren’t out of bed until after 3 pm.

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Teukka  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:23:47am

So I made a tweet dust devil :P

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b_sharp  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:24:36am

The CTV had an interview with an American talking head this morning that claimed the difference between the numbers of Republican voters and Democratic voters is only around 150,000 in all of the votes already accepted even though the number of votes is higher than usual.

If this is true, the Democratic voters need to step up and overcome the Republican intentional vote suppression.

This means half of the voting public are gullible fools. The steps Trumps admin has taken will only exacerbate that. He’s not only taking apart the system - the swamp - he’s instituted an intentional dumbing down of the voting public. He’s turning ‘the swamp’ into a lethal gaseous bog.

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:25:55am
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BeachDem  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:27:20am

OK, on scale of 1-10 of importance, this ranks at 15, but what was up with the dirty, tattered flags during last night’s Evita balcony scene?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:27:43am

re: #382 b_sharp

The CTV had an interview with an American talking head this morning that claimed the difference between the numbers of Republican voters and Democratic voters is only around 150,000 in all of the votes already accepted even though the number of votes is higher than usual.

If this is true, the Democratic voters need to step up and overcome the Republican intentional vote suppression.

This means half of the voting public are gullible fools. The steps Trumps admin has taken will only exacerbate that. He’s not only taking apart the system - the swamp - he’s instituted an intentional dumbing down of the voting public. He’s turning ‘the swamp’ into a lethal gaseous bog.

150,000 seems low considering the areas that are early voting. Who is this talking head? could be Republican disinfo. It’s all they have.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:32:24am

re: #382 b_sharp

The CTV had an interview with an American talking head this morning that claimed the difference between the numbers of Republican voters and Democratic voters is only around 150,000 in all of the votes already accepted even though the number of votes is higher than usual.

If this is true, the Democratic voters need to step up and overcome the Republican intentional vote suppression.

This means half of the voting public are gullible fools. The steps Trumps admin has taken will only exacerbate that. He’s not only taking apart the system - the swamp - he’s instituted an intentional dumbing down of the voting public. He’s turning ‘the swamp’ into a lethal gaseous bog.

how could anyone possibly know this?

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:33:17am
ALBANY N.Y. — All college students at SUNY schools will need to test negative for COVID-19 before returning home for Thanksgiving break.

SUNY Chancellor Jim Malatras announced the new policy Tuesday morning and said it was to decrease the risk of community spread as about 140,000 students return to their families for the holiday.

Any student using an on-campus facility in any way must test negative within 10 days before leaving campus.

Each SUNY school must develop a testing schedule and submit plans by November 5.

Good luck with that.
cnycentral.com

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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:40:29am

re: #387 Shropshire Slasher

Colleges had plans when they first opened up. SUNY’s 64 campuses should follow the same example. Make sure everyone has access to the testing and results in a timely fashion to allow safe travel back home. Then they need to have testing back in place so classes can resume following Thanksgiving break.

The alternative is everyone goes remote after Thanksgiving and no one returns to campus until after January break.

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b_sharp  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:46:24am

re: #385 I Would Prefer Not To

150,000 seems low considering the areas that are early voting. Who is this talking head? could be Republican disinfo. It’s all they have.

I don’t know, I was making breakfast when I heard. I’ve been watching to see if they repeat the segment.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:48:08am

re: #388 lawhawk

Colleges had plans when they first opened up. SUNY’s 64 campuses should follow the same example. Make sure everyone has access to the testing and results in a timely fashion to allow safe travel back home. Then they need to have testing back in place so classes can resume following Thanksgiving break.

The alternative is everyone goes remote after Thanksgiving and no one returns to campus until after January break.

So you are OK with SUNY schools holding students hostage?

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:49:11am

re: #385 I Would Prefer Not To

150,000 seems low considering the areas that are early voting. Who is this talking head? could be Republican disinfo. It’s all they have.

This smells like horse-race bullshit to me. There is simply no way, with the way polling has been going, unless there is some industrial-level vote tampering. Hell, in many places, they’re not even allowed to process the mail-in votes yet.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:50:13am

re: #382 b_sharp

….

This means half of the voting public are gullible fools. The steps Trumps admin has taken will only exacerbate that. He’s not only taking apart the system - the swamp - he’s instituted an intentional dumbing down of the voting public. He’s turning ‘the swamp’ into a lethal gaseous bog.

Not necessarily gullible fools — just racist to the core, looking for someone who will carry their banner of white supremacism and patriarchy, and with Trump they found their man.

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:52:34am

re: #391 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This smells like horse-race bullshit to me. There is simply no way, with the way polling has been going, unless there is some industrial-level vote tampering. Hell, in many places, they’re not even allowed to process the mail-in votes yet.

the story did say ‘already accepted’
but it still doesnt matter

many states do not release D/R breakdowns, just totals

and the ones that do, i believe are releasing registration info, not who a person voted for in the presidential or any other election

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Dizzy  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:54:03am

“As cowardly as a Republican” should become part of our lexicon.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:54:30am

re: #393 dangerman

the story did say ‘already accepted’
but it still doesnt matter

many states do not release D/R breakdowns, just totals

and the ones that do, i believe are releasing registration info, not who a person voted for in the presidential or any other election

My ballot is accepted, but it will not be counted until later (I don’t remember when MN is allowed to start counting mail-in ballots); there is no way anyone can know what is on it, as we do not have party registrations here, and the ballot itself is still sealed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:54:30am

re: #390 Shropshire Slasher

So you are OK with SUNY schools holding students hostage?

Let them go if they insist. But they can’t come back.

Choose the public good or not.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:55:27am

re: #393 dangerman

the story did say ‘already accepted’
but it still doesnt matter

many states do not release D/R breakdowns, just totals

and the ones that do, i believe are releasing registration info, not who a person voted for in the presidential or any other election

I’m technically an independent voter since we have no party registration here. I’m not. I’ve voted for a Democrat every election and I voted a straight ticket this year.

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jimmyvluv4u  Oct 27, 2020 • 9:56:54am

Totally OT… Oingo Boingo covered in the style of Iron Maiden, with the singer Iron Maiden should pick up if Bruce Dickinson ever decides to leave again… This is seriously cool.

YouTube

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dangerman  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:00:40am

it is shocking that the president as the defendant in a defamation case about a rape case isn’t bigger news.

i mean it should be taken at least as seriously as the allegations that Biden hugged a woman a couple seconds too long for her comfort, right?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:02:08am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:02:36am

re: #399 dangerman

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it is shocking that the president as the defendant in a defamation case about a rape case isn’t bigger news.

i mean it should be taken at least as seriously as the allegations that Biden hugged a woman a couple seconds too long for her comfort, right?

It amazes me that the Trumpers call Joe “creepy” when this is their guy but then again Trump is one projection after another.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:03:50am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

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Obama didn’t endorse Biden because he wanted to let the voters decide. Trump meanwhile has no living President supporting him. Biden has three.

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piratedan  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:04:33am

re: #272 jaunte

exactly who elected Loeffler and McSally?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:05:26am

Thanks for the ad. You should never be allowed in polite society again.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:07:01am

re: #404 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thanks for the ad. You should never be allowed in polite society again.

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Bolton should take up knitting.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:10:53am

re: #399 dangerman

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it is shocking that the president as the defendant in a defamation case about a rape case isn’t bigger news.

i mean it should be taken at least as seriously as the allegations that Biden hugged a woman a couple seconds too long for her comfort, right?

Yes it is but the CCCP is obsessed with anything that will kneecap Joe and turn the election into a horse race.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:12:37am
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Teukka  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:14:02am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:14:29am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Declaring victory while five people in the VP office have it. Yeah.. Maybe if they got off social media and had Trump watch something that wasn’t a FNC blowjob they’d realize this is far from over.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:14:53am

re: #405 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bolton should take up knitting.

Bolton has never explained why he fired the pandemic response team. Unless he provides a satisfactory explanation for this action, he should be considered as culpable as Trump in our failure to prevent the pandemic from exploding outside of China.

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John Hughes  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:16:37am

re: #309 The Pie Overlord!

I can’t believe that the others stayed. I would have walked out. The only way I’d have been able to avoid violence.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:16:48am

re: #410 Hecuba’s daughter

Bolton has never explained why he fired the pandemic response team. Unless he provides a satisfactory explanation for this action, he should be considered as culpable as Trump in our failure to prevent the pandemic from exploding outside of China.

Yep. Bolton’s still a shithead. The point I was trying to make sardonically is I don’t want that asshole on my TV from 21-25.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:16:52am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Hmmmmm…wondering if they would retract that allegation if a couple GOP Senators & Congressmen were put on respirators…or maybe a Supreme Court Justice or two…or three…

Remember Grandma Bacon talking about the 1932 election when every GOP candidate insisted that “prosperity was just around the corner”…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:19:59am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:21:03am

How desperate are RepubliKKKlans in Pennsylvania getting?

Answer—Conservative group texts Pa. voters false claim that Biden backs sex reassignment surgery for kids

Voters across Pennsylvania are receiving text messages with a surprising — and false — claim about Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

“Hi, I’m a Democratic volunteer with APP PAC,” the text says. “Did you see Joe Biden endorsed sex change operations for children as young as 8? That’s way too extreme and frankly it’s really weird.”

The text, sent by the conservative Super PAC American Principles Project, asks voters to watch a 30-second video, in which a narrator falsely claims Biden endorsed such medical procedures. The video includes images of Biden speaking to Mieke Haeck, the mother of an 8-year-old transgender child at an Oct. 15 ABC town hall in Philadelphia.

inquirer.com

This is what I was hearing from some Pennsylvania voters when I was phone banking for Joe last weekend.

Fuck the GOP. Every last GOP operative is a piece of Nazi scum. Every. Last. One. Of. Them.

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plansbandc  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:22:44am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:23:12am

re: #414 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m guessing these are not the only states they targeted with their robocall scheme, i.e., there will be more charges. Sleep well, fucktards!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:23:38am

Lllre: #414 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Wohl and Burkman are the CCJs of O’Keefe. I hope Little Jagoff spends his time in prison regretting spending his early 20’s being a henchman for Trump and is miserable.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:24:08am

re: #417 Dr. Matt

I’m guessing these are not the only states they targeted with their robocall scheme, i.e., there will be more charges. Sleep well, fucktards!

They’re such asses.

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:24:20am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

To say that making these kinds of claims undermines credibility is an understatement.

To me, this is one of the biggest failings of the Democratic campaign this year (OK, not much of a “failing”, as the (D) ticket is still nominally well ahead) - not making the Administration’s (and especially the President’s) lack of credibility more of a campaign issue. Yes, we know that everyone expects Trump do do nothing but spout a bunch of minimally-credible bullshit, brag, bluster, misstatement and outright falsehood as a matter of course: but seriously, why is Team Biden not pushing the question of whether this is actually GOOD for the country as a whole*?
I realize the media may find it “boring”, but is it really such a negative to imagine a POTUS who might be accepted to tell the truth as a matter of course - with the occasional misstatement - rather than the other way round?

*MAGAt rabble excluded: they seem to WANT to be lied to: or don’t ever care if they are

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:26:42am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:27:39am

re: #420 Jay C

To me, this is one of the biggest failings of the Democratic campaign this year (OK, not much of a “failing”, as the (D) ticket is still nominally well ahead) - not making the Administration’s (and especially the President’s) lack of credibility more of a campaign issue. Yes, we know that everyone expects Trump do do nothing but spout a bunch of minimally-credible bullshit, brag, bluster, misstatement and outright falsehood as a matter of course: but seriously, why is Team Biden not pushing the question of whether this is actually GOOD for the country as a whole*?
I realize the media may find it “boring”, but is it really such a negative to imagine a POTUS who might be accepted to tell the truth as a matter of course - with the occasional misstatement - rather than the other way round?

*MAGAt rabble excluded: they seem to WANT to be lied to: or don’t ever care if they are

Joe HAS brought up how Trump lies, but the CCCP surpasses that. And the brain-dead DC Press Corpse continues to genuflect in the presence of Gawd’s Anointed King.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:31:51am

re: #380 Shropshire Slasher

They usually aren’t out of bed until after 3 pm.

Mine are usually up by 7.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:33:44am
425
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:33:50am

re: #421 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“It would be very very proper and very nice if a winner were declared on November 3rd, instead of counting ballots for two weeks, which is totally inappropriate and I don’t believe that that’s by our laws. I don’t believe that. So we’ll see what happens,” Trump before leaving WH.

Yes, our Founding Fathers used trans-warp carrier pigeons to send ballot results to Washington within minutes after polls closed…

FFS

He is telegraphing his punches: regardless of the outcome, he is going to declare victory, challenge the results and try to get it into the courts and before his now loyally packed SCOTUS

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:36:56am
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lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:37:18am

re: #390 Shropshire Slasher

So you are OK with SUNY schools holding students hostage?

Am I okay holding people responsible for their actions? Yes.

This isn’t about holding anyone hostage. This about making sure that they’re safe during a pandemic and that everyone gets adequate testing before potentially spreading covid19 to everyone they contact between the campus and their home wherever that may be.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:40:24am

The CIA wishes to give you a way to while away the time

I found 8

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:41:41am

re: #420 Jay C

To me, this is one of the biggest failings of the Democratic campaign this year (OK, not much of a “failing”, as the (D) ticket is still nominally well ahead) - not making the Administration’s (and especially the President’s) lack of credibility more of a campaign issue. Yes, we know that everyone expects Trump do do nothing but spout a bunch of minimally-credible bullshit, brag, bluster, misstatement and outright falsehood as a matter of course: but seriously, why is Team Biden not pushing the question of whether this is actually GOOD for the country as a whole*?
I realize the media may find it “boring”, but is it really such a negative to imagine a POTUS who might be accepted to tell the truth as a matter of course - with the occasional misstatement - rather than the other way round?

*MAGAt rabble excluded: they seem to WANT to be lied to: or don’t ever care if they are

I think you’ve missed some of their ads.

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gwangung  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:42:22am

“Packing” the court makes sense when you keep the size the same.

Expanding the courts, particularly when the courts have stayed the same size for over a century, is different.

431
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:42:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:44:06am

“The Pandemic is over because I say it’s over” - Donald Trump, probably.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:44:56am

re: #427 lawhawk

Am I okay holding people responsible for their actions? Yes.

This isn’t about holding anyone hostage. This about making sure that they’re safe during a pandemic and that everyone gets adequate testing before potentially spreading covid19 to everyone they contact between the campus and their home wherever that may be.

Padlock the doors or put up a fence to keep the adults in?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:46:17am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I found 9.

435
Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:46:18am

re: #390 Shropshire Slasher

So you are OK with SUNY schools holding students hostage?

I am perfectly fine with colleges isolating infected students. My son’s school has a dorm entirely devoted to that. Letting them know that they’re sick before they go home would be a great service.

436
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:49:36am

re: #434 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I found 9.

I bet it was a star

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:50:43am

I’ve seen this movie:

Technology that allows people to perform physical work remotely is proliferating across a host of occupations. In Tokyo, workers miles away control humanoid robots to stock convenience store shelves via a virtual reality interface; the robots, built by Telexistence, are the world’s first commercial application of telepresence. Telexistence’s Model T robot is built from relatively inexpensive parts, to ensure the teleoperated machine and remote worker cost less than an equivalent physically present human. The company hopes a system fully puppeteered by humans will collect sufficient training data to teach an artificial intelligence to assume at least some of their tasks. Another form of telepresence lets front-line workers use smart glasses to share what they are seeing with remote experts, who can consult and send images to assist with problems.

wsj.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:51:04am

In other news from the press corpse, the Boston Herald has gone over to the enemy:

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BeachDem  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:53:43am

re: #438 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

In other news from the press corpse, the Boston Herald has gone over to the enemy:

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The Boston Herald has always been a right-wing rag.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:54:07am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I found 10.

441
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:54:30am

re: #434 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I found 9.

re: #436 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I bet it was a star

I have 10 now

442
jaunte  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:54:56am

Kavanaugh is a purchased tool.

443
Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:55:23am

re: #439 BeachDem

The Boston Herald has always been a right-wing rag.

It’s owned by Murdoch now. So endorsement is what you expect.

444
makeitstop  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:56:26am

re: #442 jaunte

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Kavanaugh is a purchased tool.

An errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:56:34am

I reading some of the recent stories about Jacob Wohl and saw that earlier this year he was circulating was “a copy of a lab report” showing that Biden had contracted COVID-19 and had 30 days to live.

Am I the only one who missed this?

446
Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:58:14am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

Nope. I didn’t know about it either, but then again, I only know enough about Wohl to laugh at him. The tell is the 30 days. No one knows.

447
b_sharp  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:58:18am

re: #441 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I have 10 now

My condolences.

448
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:59:09am

re: #437 Belafon

Teach robot how to take over so humans become unnecessary.

449
451_Montag  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:00:57am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

How to solve them reaaaaally quick…

Look at the image side by side and cross your eyes. Focus on the middle image. You will see the errors easily because they are half-exposed and seem to just jump out at you.

450
Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:01:10am

re: #448 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Teach robot how to take over so humans become unnecessary.

I’ve seen that (animated) movie, too. It ends with us becoming batteries.

451
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:03:56am

re: #439 BeachDem

The Boston Herald has always been a right-wing rag.

Is it possible SK confused it with The Globe who did the investigatory journalism that formed the basis of Spotlight? I wonder if not for Watergate and it being national that people would confuse the WaPo- how I learned to read btw with the Wash Times who also recently endorsed Trump. I’m not worried about the media though. As we said last night, this is your 13th President and my 6th. People know this shit ain’t normal. I’ve never seen my parents more aware of the stakes.

452
Jay C  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:04:20am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The CIA wishes to give you a way to while away the time

[Embedded content]

So is this how the CIA trains its intelligence analysts?
I found 10 differences: can I get a government job??

453
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:04:39am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

I reading some of the recent stories about Jacob Wohl and saw that earlier he was circulating was “a copy of a lab report” showing that Biden had contracted COVID-19 and had 30 days to live.

[Embedded content]

Am I the only one who missed this?

No, I missed that too.

454
Dr Lizardo  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:05:20am

re: #450 Belafon

I’ve seen that (animated) movie, too. It ends with us becoming batteries.

The Second Renaissance (parts 1 and 2) were the only sequels/prequels The Matrix needed.

455
Dr. Matt  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:08:11am

re: #454 Dr Lizardo

The Second Renaissance (parts 1 and 2) were the only sequels/prequels The Matrix needed.

Those are awesome. Would love to see them turned into full length films.

456
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:09:42am

re: #452 Jay C

So is this how the CIA trains its intelligence analysts?
I found 10 differences: can I get a government job??

Only if you spotted the aluminum tubes for uranium enrichment centrifuges

457
lawhawk  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:11:30am

re: #456 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

They’re in the van, down by the river….

458
Interesting Times  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:12:03am

He’s not wrong:

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:12:53am

re: #456 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Only if you spotted the aluminum tubes for uranium enrichment centrifuges

I did: but I classified them as missile fuselages…

460
makeitstop  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:13:38am

Lincoln Project ads are getting heavy.

461
Nyet  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:14:27am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

I reading some of the recent stories about Jacob Wohl and saw that earlier this year he was circulating was “a copy of a lab report” showing that Biden had contracted COVID-19 and had 30 days to live.

[Embedded content]

Am I the only one who missed this?

So, enough to win this election? //

462
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:19:33am

re: #461 Nyet

So, enough to win this election? //

Their CT is that Biden is just a stalking horse for Harris and the CBC.

463
wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:20:23am

re: #461 Nyet

So, enough to win this election? //

Does Kamala get inaugurated?

464
i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:23:54am

re: #443 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s owned by Murdoch now. So endorsement is what you expect.

Murdoch hasn’t owned it in decades. It was owned by Pat Purcell, and now belongs to one of the shadier of the big national newspaper conglomerates. But it’s a very right-wing rag trying to carve out a niche in a not very right-wing market. And its circulation is down to nearly nothing.

465
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:24:06am

re: #436 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I bet it was a star

Coulda been. The upside down bay and the witch flying in the other direction were ones I almost missed.

466
Interesting Times  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:24:10am

re: #461 Nyet

When you said this:

ACB is now RBG’s legacy.

…it reminded me of people saying that Obama’s legacy was trump. I see how it makes sense, in a terribly depressing way - both of them suffered from a failure of imagination, unable to realize just how horrid, vile, and cynical their opposition was.

467
John Hughes  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:26:52am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The CIA wishes to give you a way to while away the time

[Embedded content]

The CIA is trying to recruit astronomers?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:27:09am

re: #465 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Coulda been. The upside down bay and the witch flying in the other direction were ones I almost missed.

I initially missed the missing star and the brighter star

469
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:28:09am

re: #449 451_Montag

How to solve them reaaaaally quick…

Look at the image side by side and cross your eyes. Focus on the middle image. You will see the errors easily because they are half-exposed and seem to just jump out at you.

That totally didn’t work for me.

470
Nyet  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:29:15am

re: #466 Interesting Times

When you said this:

…it reminded me of people saying that Obama’s legacy was trump. I see how it makes sense, in a terribly depressing way - both of them suffered from a failure of imagination, unable to realize just how horrid, vile, and cynical their opposition was.

She should have gone in 2013 and she was asked to. This is on her.

chicagotribune.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:29:40am

re: #466 Interesting Times

When you said this:

…it reminded me of people saying that Obama’s legacy was trump. I see how it makes sense, in a terribly depressing way - both of them suffered from a failure of imagination, unable to realize just how horrid, vile, and cynical their opposition was.

Well I think part of Obama’s legacy is Biden too. I knew about Biden before 2008. Delaware is close to here after all and his family actually has a beach house in the neighboring town from where I went as a kid- it’s well known for being very welcoming to the LGBT community fwiw but I digress. My early impression of Biden was he was a little arrogant but as I’ve come to learn about who he is. I think he was a great compliment to Obama. I admire Obama but Biden was the proverbial peanut butter to the chocolate. They made each other better. I don’t blame Obama for Trump at all. Obama’s identity as a first generation biracial black Kenyan-American with an unique started the rise of Trump and also the Tea Party rather than anything Obama actually proposed.

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John Hughes  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:50:53am

re: #445 Dr. Matt

I reading some of the recent stories about Jacob Wohl and saw that earlier this year he was circulating was “a copy of a lab report” showing that Biden had contracted COVID-19 and had 30 days to live.

[Embedded content]

Am I the only one who missed this?

You and about 7 billion others


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