GroundUP Music With Becca Stevens, Bokanté, Alina Engibaryan and More: Tiny Desk (Home) Concert

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The Tiny Desk is working from home for the foreseeable future. Introducing NPR Music’s Tiny Desk (home) concerts, bringing you performances from across the country and the world. It’s the same spirit — stripped-down sets, an intimate setting — just a different space.

Oct. 27, 2020 | Suraya Mohamed, Colin Marshall — This three-act, 18-person Tiny Desk (home) concert was conceived by Michael League, Snarky Puppy’s composer and bandleader. He and his cadre of artists on the GroundUP record label believe in two important points: that music and politics are inextricably linked, and the best way to connect people is through song.

League’s rolodex is impressive. If you’re a jazz fan, you’re almost certain to know many of the performers in this ambitious Tiny Desk, which includes (among others) Grammy winners Gregory Porter, Brad Mehldau and Chris Potter.

The concert features three distinct ensembles, beginning with Becca Stevens and her song “Heather’s Letters To Her Mother.” “I wrote this for Heather Heyer, who was killed on August 12, 2017, while peacefully protesting the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville,” she says. “In my heart this song has always been a rallying cry to come from a place of compassion in our actions and reactions. It’s a reminder to continue the fight for equality from a determined and compassionate stance regardless of what is happening around us. And it’s a reminder to stay grounded in love because without a foundation of love we are truly lost.”

The second song features League’s world music group Bokanté performing the Creole song “Réparasyon,” meaning “reparations.” Bokanté vocalist Malika Tirolien wrote the song, which appears on the band’s Grammy-nominated album What Heat. “With the rise of black liberation movements around the world, this is a crucial time to remind everyone that people of African descent need the slave trade officially recognized as a crime against humanity and need reparations and restitutions of stolen goods,” Tirolien says. “Getting justice is the only way we can begin a process of forgiveness and healing.”

Keyboard player and vocalist Alina Engibaryan leads the last song, “We Are,” which strives to bring people together, “I wanted to write a song that has a message about people, where regardless of our beliefs, our political views, our race, color, we are all human beings and made of the same thing,” Engibaryan says. “I hope people will understand that one day and will learn to love, respect and accept one another.”

SET LIST & MUSICIANS

“Heather’s Letters to Her Mother” performed by Becca Stevens

Becca Stevens: vocals, guitar
Brad Mehldau: piano, vocals
Chris Tordini: bass, vocals

“Réparasyon” performed by Bokanté

Malika Tirolien: vocals
Kurt Rosenwinkel: guitar
Roosevelt Collier: lap steel guitar
Bob Lanzetti: guitar
Chris McQueen: guitar
Michael League: bass
Keita Ogawa: percussion
Jamey Haddad: percussion
André Ferrari: percussion
Weedie Braimah: percussion

“We Are” performed by Alina Engibaryan

Alina Engibaryan: vocals, Rhodes, Moog bass
Gregory Porter: vocals
Chris Potter: tenor saxophone
Taylor Eigsti: piano
Eric Harland: drums
Michael League: vocals

CREDITS
Video By: Chris McQueen
Audio By: Chris McQueen, Michael League
Producers: Colin Marshall, Suraya Mohamed
Video Producer: Maia Stern
Audio Mastering: Josh Rogosin
Associate Producer: Bobby Carter
Executive Producer: Lauren Onkey
Senior VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann

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327 comments

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:01:08pm
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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:01:08pm
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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:03:04pm
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BigPapa  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:06:37pm
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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:06:45pm

I was thinking about Manchin’s statement earlier, and I do think we are misreading it a little. We’re worried that he won’t change the rules at the beginning of the next term, but I think he was actually just talking about the two changes that occurred to get Barrett in: appointing a judge close to the election and Graham rewriting committee rules so they could get around Democrats boycotting.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:07:18pm
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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:08:56pm

re: #4 BigPapa

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It’s too late now, I bet, but Democrats should have found some buses, slapped some Biden/Harris signs on them, and driven them to pick people up.

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Mattand  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:10:43pm

re: #3 Belafon

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I can almost understand Biden’s hesitancy on this. Mainly because he’s worried the average non-politics following American would probably accuse him of “court packing”, despite the fact that’s what Republicans have been doing since Merrick Garland. Flash forward two years and presto! A 2010-style drubbing Obama got for making it marginally easier for poor people to see a fucking doctor.

Then I’m all like “Fuck that noise. Fight fire with fucking fire, for once.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:12:34pm

re: #5 Belafon

I was thinking about Manchin’s statement earlier, and I do think we are misreading it a little. We’re worried that he won’t change the rules at the beginning of the next term, but I think he was actually just talking about the two changes that occurred to get Barrett in: appointing a judge close to the election and Graham rewriting committee rules so they could get around Democrats boycotting.

Him voting against her was a sign. I think we’re going to get expansion. We just need the political capital. Taking back the Senate and winning the presidency big will do that imo. Seeing some of the stuff that this new majority might gut might change some minds too. I think people don’t realize the gravity of how reactionary minded this new majority is.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:13:56pm

re: #8 Mattand

I can almost understand Biden’s hesitancy on this. Mainly because he’s worried the average non-politics following American would probably accuse him of “court packing”, despite the fact that’s what Republicans have been doing since Merrick Garland. Flash forward two years and presto! A 2010-style drubbing Obama got for making it marginally easier for poor people to see a fucking doctor.

Then I’m all like “Fuck that noise. Fight fire with fucking fire, for once.”

This could also be Biden pulling a “they talked me into it” thing. But I also think, right now, the real goal should be getting people to the polls. That’s the only real cure to all of this. We have to get Congress and the presidency, then we fix the courts. Part of the problem Obama had is too many people thought someone else would fix it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:14:13pm

re: #8 Mattand

I can almost understand Biden’s hesitancy on this. Mainly because he’s worried the average non-politics following American would probably accuse him of “court packing”, despite the fact that’s what Republicans have been doing since Merrick Garland. Flash forward two years and presto! A 2010-style drubbing Obama got for making it marginally easier for poor people to see a fucking doctor.

Then I’m all like “Fuck that noise. Fight fire with fucking fire, for once.”

I think he’s adverse to it as I honestly was before Barrett but I think he’s more open to it because of the blatant duplicity and putting Barrett’s nomination before relief.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:15:53pm

re: #4 BigPapa

I have to ask if this is even real. As I follow the thread, which has pictures, it just seems outlandish. Like ridiculously so.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:16:19pm

re: #5 Belafon

I was thinking about Manchin’s statement earlier, and I do think we are misreading it a little. We’re worried that he won’t change the rules at the beginning of the next term, but I think he was actually just talking about the two changes that occurred to get Barrett in: appointing a judge close to the election and Graham rewriting committee rules so they could get around Democrats boycotting.

When the corrupted court kills the ACA you will see Manchin blow his stack on the floor of the Senate. Democrats will march in lockstep to neuter McConnell and the Republicans.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:16:41pm

re: #10 Belafon

This could also be Biden pulling a “they talked me into it” thing. But I also think, right now, the real goal should be getting people to the polls. That’s the only real cure to all of this. We have to get Congress and the presidency, then we fix the courts. Part of the problem Obama had is too many people thought someone else would fix it.

I really think Obama had unfair expectations on him and I blame that partially for inspiring the conditions that made Trump possible. Obama was treated like he needed to be a progressive savior and as a two time Obama voter and a staunch liberal at that, that’s not what I voted for.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:18:24pm

People have asked me what a Biden presidency would be like and I’ll point out that if you want an idea see how Jerry Brown governed California in his fourth term. He turned the state around, put the budget in the black and laid the path down for Newsom to follow.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:22:26pm

re: #15 🌹UOJB!

People have asked me what a Biden presidency would be like and I’ll point out that if you want an idea see how Jerry Brown governed California in his fourth term. He turned the state around, put the budget in the black and laid the path down for Newsom to follow.

I might compare it here in Virginia to Northam. Northam was actually once courted by Virginia Republicans to switch parties. He never considered it as far as I know but it’s true that Northam had a more moderate reputation than any Democrat that has run for governor here in the past 20 years except maybe Creigh Deeds. However, we also gave him a lot of Democrats in the state legislature. IF you want Biden to have a progressive agenda, work your ass for a Democratic majority in Congress. It is so frustrating that there’s a loud minority of people who do not get that and think that crying that Biden isn’t Bernie is how to make this work.

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BigPapa  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:25:14pm

re: #12 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Seems legit according to Zeleny. Have to weed through Twitter tho.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:27:59pm

re: #12 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have to ask if this is even real. As I follow the thread, which has pictures, it just seems outlandish. Like ridiculously so.

It’s real. One of the press folks covering the event is talking about it.

Holy shit. That’s literally unbelievable. Like so out there I would have sworn we were being punked.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:29:12pm

re: #17 BigPapa

Seems legit according to Zeleny. Have to week through Twitter tho.
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This guy is who I saw. He was tweeting the whole event.

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:32:39pm

YOU KNEW I WAS A SNAKE

Disgusting sociopathic behavior. And these people will still think he’s a demigod. It’s a fucking cult.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:32:50pm

re: #8 Mattand

I can almost understand Biden’s hesitancy on this. Mainly because he’s worried the average non-politics following American would probably accuse him of “court packing”, despite the fact that’s what Republicans have been doing since Merrick Garland. Flash forward two years and presto! A 2010-style drubbing Obama got for making it marginally easier for poor people to see a fucking doctor.

Then I’m all like “Fuck that noise. Fight fire with fucking fire, for once.”

But he got the 2010 drubbing before anyone benefited from the ACA. After all, the ACA passed in March 2010 followed by the rollout fiasco later that year. The GOP seized on that to demonize the entire program. Voters gave control of the House to GOP and the the election of Scott Brown in early 2010 made it impossible to prevent filibusters in the Senate, given McConnell’s nonstop efforts to destroy Obama. It was impossible to correct any flaws in the legislation.

Republicans have always seemed more successful at marketing than Democrats, probably because they are more willing to lie about everything. They christened the ACA Obamacare and made it very unpopular until people started benefiting from it — but that was too late to prevent GOP domination of Congress.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:35:45pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

YOU KNEW I WAS A SNAKE

Disgusting sociopathic behavior. And these people will still think he’s a demigod. It’s a fucking cult.

He really is one of the worst things to happen to this country in a long time. I’d love for a Trumper to answer this but what is the issue that got Trump into presidential politics. They can’t tell you that because the answer isn’t a political issue but rather Trump’s pathetic jealously and hatred of Obama.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:36:30pm

More coming from the Lincoln Project:

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:39:57pm

What Cadet Bonespurs did tonight in Omaha would immediately sink any other candidate’s campaign for good.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:41:24pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:42:56pm

re: #23 Belafon

More coming from the Lincoln Project:

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Please, Please, Please, Please let Steve Schmidt go after Nunes and Gym Neighbors!

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Jay C  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:52:31pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

What Cadet Bonespurs did tonight in Omaha would immediately sink any other candidate’s campaign for good.

Except that Trump is more likely to crow over the YUUUGE crowd he got to turn out….

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 27, 2020 • 10:54:00pm

re: #27 Jay C

Except that Trump is more likely to crow over the YUUUGE crowd he got to turn out….

And those stranded idiots will STILL kiss Trump’s ass no matter what.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:07:21pm

re: #6 Dread Pirate Ron

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:08:14pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

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Well yes, Musk is a “genius” a lot like Edison was: He knew jack-shit about inventing, but he knew a great deal about marketing. His greatest invention was one that corporations follow to this day: Creating an R&D department whose work you can profit off of by slapping your name all over the patents and then suing anybody (including your own employees) for “infringing” upon them. While we know Tesla and alternating current only because the man was able to find a patron in George Westinghouse, Zod only knows how many other brilliant inventions were killed because Edison’s basic 19th century education made it impossible for him to see the profit in them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:11:15pm

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I take it he’s a Republican.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:18:11pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:19:21pm

re: #32 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Shouldn’t they be rejecting “socialism” and pulling their wrinkly asses up by their bootstraps?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:24:06pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Shouldn’t they be rejecting “socialism” and pulling their wrinkly asses up by their bootstraps?

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I just hope they haven’t voted yet. Some may not make it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:26:20pm

This defies physics.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:37:12pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:46:32pm

re: #35 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This defies physics.

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I wanna trade my old dog in. ///

Now I want a Malinois for my next dog.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:46:43pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 27, 2020 • 11:58:47pm
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Ming5000  Oct 28, 2020 • 12:17:55am

Interesting additional information about the post Trump rally:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 28, 2020 • 12:35:00am

Stolen from FB:

IDLE HANDS ARE THE DEVIL’S WORKSHOP
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 12:35:58am
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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 12:43:48am

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Stolen from FB:

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Hail Satin!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 12:48:41am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 12:51:58am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:02:41am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:05:15am
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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:08:20am

re: #47 Dread Pirate Ron

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I’m gonna call it now: It doesn’t matter who Biden nominates next year for AG, they will be declared “anti-cop/pro-crime” by the Repubs, the FOP, every police union in the country, and every wingnut pundit from here to Azerbaijan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:12:43am

re: #4 BigPapa

President Trump took off in Air Force One 1 hr 20 minutes ago, but thousands of his supporters remain stranded on a dark road outside the rally. “We need at least 30 more buses,” an Omaha police officer just said, shaking his head at the chaotic cluster that is unfolding.

it will be spun as a sign of how popular he is

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:13:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:18:27am

re: #50 Dread Pirate Ron

The family of a Latino former Obama admin. official, Patrick Hidalgo, were told his death was due to heart failure. They found out on their own that he died of Covid-19.

I hear people claiming on the Internet that “if you die in a car crash it turns out you had Covid, they report you as a Covid death!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:19:38am

The Dodgers’ win will always have an asterisk after it in the books. This was not a real World Series, because the season was broken and the playoff games were cobbled together out of the ashes.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:22:31am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The family of a Latino former Obama admin. official, Patrick Hidalgo, were told his death was due to heart failure. They found out on their own that he died of Covid-19.

I hear people claiming on the Internet that “if you die in a car crash it turns out you had Covid, they report you as a Covid death!”

I see that on the Czech internet as well - unfortunately, COVID-related conspiracy theories have found fertile ground here and have started sprouting like deadly nightshade mushrooms.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:26:00am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

I see that on the Czech internet as well - unfortunately, COVID-related conspiracy theories have found fertile ground here and have started sprouting like deadly nightshade mushrooms.

A relative sent me a video link to some US-German lawyer promoting a class action suit against the companies who sell test kits.

Here’s the catch: unlike most class-action suits, where you just sign on, this fellow is asking 800 euros in advance. In other words, if he can get 10,000 people to sign on, he has made eight million euros and doesn’t have to produce any results…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:36:27am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:37:01am

re: #28 🌹UOJB!

And those stranded idiots will STILL kiss Trump’s ass no matter what.

And the media in Nebraska covers for them.

Governor Ricketts was also at the superspreader event. I imagine he could get out without trouble (perhaps by private aircraft).

The Republican [Senator Deb Fischer] said President Trump supports our troops, so she supports him.

“We have a president who stands tall and rebuilds our military, we have a president who cares for our veterans,” Fischer said.

It’s all about the message, not the actions.

I went through every television and radio station in the Omaha/Council Bluffs market. They are all, regardless of network, reporting breathlessly on the size of the crowd at Eppley Airfield (the Omaha airport), and not on the clusterfuque Trump caused there stranding his supporters.

In addition the the stuck crowd, there is only one major street in the area (Abbott Road, it goes from downtown, past Eppley, through Carter Lake Iowa, then to North Omaha). It is the principal commuter route from North Omaha to downtown. That meant his drop-in at Eppley also fouled up rush hour traffic (since the route had to be secured by the Secret Service).

This is what the area around Eppley Airfield looks like. This is why no one could walk back to downtown parking.

mapquest.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:51:25am
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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:51:36am

“He rebuilt the military!”

Obama spent more in his first 4 years ($3.3T) on defense budgets than Trump did ($2.7T). Only in his second term did Obama spend less, due entirely to the budget cap imposed by the sequester that Repubs shackled the federal budget with in order to look “responsible.”

Amazing how nobody has heard about the sequester during the Trump years, isn’t it?//////

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:52:09am

Panhandle Covid-19 update:

Deaths: 14 (+2, both Dawes County, seat Chadron)
Cases: 2,064 (+39)
Weekly positivity rate: 41.8% (the conservative genocide continues apace)
Cumulative rate (since the first case on April 1): 10.4%

More than half the cases have been since October 6.

pphd.org

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:54:19am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A relative sent me a video link to some US-German lawyer promoting a class action suit against the companies who sell test kits.

Here’s the catch: unlike most class-action suits, where you just sign on, this fellow is asking 800 euros in advance. In other words, if he can get 10,000 people to sign on, he has made eight million euros and doesn’t have to produce any results…

A lucrative scam; class-action lawsuits are a relatively new concept in the Czech legal system (only being introduced in the last couple of years or so) so it probably won’t be much longer before Attorney Jan Novák from Horní Dolní* figures out it’d be a great way to hustle the rubes.

* Jan Novák is the equivalent of “John Smith” and Horní Dolní literally means “Upper Lower”, a Czech way of saying “Anytown”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:55:29am

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

A lucrative scam; class-action lawsuits are a relatively new concept in the Czech legal system (only being introduced in the last couple of years or so) so it probably won’t be much longer before Attorney Jan Novák from Horní Dolní* figures out it’d be a great way to hustle the rubes.

* [tiny]Jan Novák is the equivalent of “John Smith” and Horní Dolní literally means “Upper Lower”, a Czech way of saying “Anytown”[/tiny]

Does he feed the fishes?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:56:40am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does he feed the fishes?

I don’t know. But the real question is does he pick his feet in Poughkeepsie?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:58:18am

Back in a few - gotta do something here in the apartment, need to replace a light switch so I’mma switch off the electricity for a bit while I do that.

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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:58:33am

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

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It’s not gonna end for another 2 months…minimum. Even if Biden puts the election away next week, we’re stuck with a tantrum-throwing baby-man in the White House until Inauguration Day. Even if all he does is closes up shop and retreats to MaL, damage will be done through inaction. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again: Don’t expect to see another relief bill before January. Needi Amin is going to let the country burn for spiting him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 1:59:28am

re: #8 Mattand

I can almost understand Biden’s hesitancy on this. Mainly because he’s worried the average non-politics following American would probably accuse him of “court packing”, despite the fact that’s what Republicans have been doing since Merrick Garland. Flash forward two years and presto! A 2010-style drubbing Obama got for making it marginally easier for poor people to see a fucking doctor.

Then I’m all like “Fuck that noise. Fight fire with fucking fire, for once.”

In 2010, several conservative states ran state constitutional amendment bills to prevent Teh Geyhs from being recognised as having equal marriage rights. Republicans did the same in swing states to drive up their voter turnout through fear.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:00:51am
Back in a few - gotta do something here in the apartment, need to replace a light switch so I’mma switch off the electricity for a bit while I do that.

Pussy, we traffic signal techs do it with the power on.

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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:01:20am

re: #66 Dread Pirate Ron

Pussy, we traffic signal techs do it with the power on.

Is that why you have no eyebrows?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:02:34am

re: #67 Targetpractice

Is that why you have no eyebrows?

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I tend to twitch a lot after getting 220-2 phase from one hand to the other.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:10:37am

re: #68 Dread Pirate Ron

I tend to twitch a lot after getting 220-2 phase from one hand to the other.

The worst was fixing a knockdown median pole in the dark while it was flashing red in the rain and fishing in the dark pull-box for the wires that are now bare due to the stretching of the copper wire and the the pulling back of the insulation. I had one hand in the wet dirt and the other on the red light line.a half second jolt every second. I took 5 pulses of 120V before I could let go. I can take a good jolt and shake it off.

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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:13:35am

re: #69 Dread Pirate Ron

The worst was fixing a knockdown median pole in the dark while it was flashing red in the rain and fishing in the dark pull-box for the wires that are now bare due to the stretching of the copper wire and the the pulling back of the insulation. I had one hand in the wet dirt and the other on the red light line.a half second jolt every second. I took 5 pulses of 120V before I could let go. I can take a good jolt and shake it off.

And yet you still have more brain cells left than the average Republican.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:13:59am

My regional newspaper’s senior editor, after being dragged so thoroughly about his endorsement of Donald Trump since as a Christian he’s the right choice, and flogging the propaganda of “why isn’t the media reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop,” has pulled down the endorsement from their Website.

They didn’t retract it, they just memory-holed it.

They have a Jonah Goldberg column up today though, flogging the same Hunter Biden laptop propaganda.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:19:28am

re: #66 Dread Pirate Ron

Pussy, we traffic signal techs do it with the power on.

And that’s taken care of. Nice and easy household repairs.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:19:40am
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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:21:31am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My regional newspaper’s senior editor, after being dragged so thoroughly about his endorsement of Donald Trump since as a Christian he’s the right choice, and flogging the propaganda of “why isn’t the media reporting on Hunter Biden’s laptop,” has pulled down the endorsement from their Website.

They didn’t retract it, they just memory-holed it.

They have a Jonah Goldberg column up today though, flogging the same Hunter Biden laptop propaganda.

I really encourage folks to get out there and get screenshots of every such endorsement before next week. Because the moment it becomes clear that Trump has lost, the reinvention of the GOP as “always being opposed to Trump!” will begin in earnest.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:23:14am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:23:16am

I do fine changing outlets and switches with power on but I almost always get bitten as I try to push it back in and touch the screw terminals with my fingers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:26:27am

re: #74 Targetpractice

I really encourage folks to get out there and get screenshots of every such endorsement before next week. Because the moment it becomes clear that Trump has lost, the reinvention of the GOP as “always being opposed to Trump!” will begin in earnest.

I have. I have the link to the endorsement as well, which is still up on the site but does not show up in the newspaper’s searches.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:28:22am

Cook Political Report editor: Time to ‘sound the alarm’ on Biden’s likely victory

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:29:16am

re: #76 Dread Pirate Ron

I do fine changing outlets and switches with power on but I almost always get bitten as I try to push it back in and touch the screw terminals with my fingers.

I just learned from my dad back in the day to always switch the power off when doing any kind of electrical repairs. I’ve replaced light switches before - a couple of years ago, I had to replace a junction box in the bathroom….the commie-era original burned out completely. Still, it held up for a little over 40 years, so that’s not too bad, but seeing as I’d never done that before, I was extra careful, LOL.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:32:23am

re: #8 Mattand

I can almost understand Biden’s hesitancy on this. Mainly because he’s worried the average non-politics following American would probably accuse him of “court packing”, despite the fact that’s what Republicans have been doing since Merrick Garland. Flash forward two years and presto! A 2010-style drubbing Obama got for making it marginally easier for poor people to see a fucking doctor.

Then I’m all like “Fuck that noise. Fight fire with fucking fire, for once.”

it will become clear that this is driven from Congress’s power. their decision.

sure Biden has to agree…

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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:33:21am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have. I have the link to the endorsement as well, which is still up on the site but does not show up in the newspaper’s searches.

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After next week, millions of our fellow Americans will suddenly be “Good Republicans,” insisting that they only voted for Trump because (insert lame-ass excuse). They’ll be calling family, calling friends, begging for forgiveness for the last four years because they were “in a bad place,” but they suddenly want to make amends for all the mean things they said the last four years.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:36:56am

re: #81 Targetpractice

After next week, millions of our fellow Americans will suddenly be “Good Republicans,” insisting that they only voted for Trump because (insert lame-ass excuse). They’ll be calling family, calling friends, begging for forgiveness for the last four years because they were “in a bad place,” but they suddenly want to make amends for all the mean things they said the last four years.

Rorschach had the best response to that one…..

Watchmen Rorschach’s Monologue “And I’ll whisper… No” [Non-Meme]

BTW, Jackie Earle Haley is probably the best reason to watch that film. He gave one hell of a performance.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:38:13am

re: #81 Targetpractice

And all of a sudden the Never Trumpers will find that Biden is a socialist and decry the lurch to the left by the Democrats.

And the hunt for the first Biden scandal will be intense. The Hunter Biden thing didn’t pan out, but that won’t stop the usual suspects from bringing it up over and over.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:38:34am

re: #24 teleskiguy

What Cadet Bonespurs did tonight in Omaha would immediately sink any other candidate’s campaign for good.

example number fifty billion

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:42:29am

re: #35 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This defies physics.

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this applies physics. ;-)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:45:55am

Zeta is booking across the Gulf of Mexico, and appears to have re-strengthened after the Yucatan encounter:

Image: floater-floater-AL282020-band13-48fr-20201028-0542.gif

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:48:33am
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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:49:02am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

Rorschach had the best response to that one…..

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BTW, Jackie Earle Haley is probably the best reason to watch that film. He gave one hell of a performance.

Agreed on both points.

Really, expect to spent the next 2-4 years listening to pundits whining about how it’s liberals who are perpetuating partisanship in America by not “moving on” from the Trump years. The Cletus Safari will change from “This small town in Nowhere, PA still supports Trump” to “This small town in Backwoods, NY has been torn apart by anti-Trump hate.” And the “moderates” who whine now that their family won’t speak to them because of their support for Trump will whine that their family won’t forgive them for defending Trump even after he’s gone.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:52:51am

re: #81 Targetpractice

After next week, millions of our fellow Americans will suddenly be “Good Republicans,” insisting that they only voted for Trump because (insert lame-ass excuse). They’ll be calling family, calling friends, begging for forgiveness for the last four years because they were “in a bad place,” but they suddenly want to make amends for all the mean things they said the last four years.

your banishment is just as long as Barrett’s on the court

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:53:26am

re: #78 dangerman

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Cook Political Report editor: Time to ‘sound the alarm’ on Biden’s likely victory

I’ll be glad to raise that alarm. “Attention Republicans! Get the hell out of Dodge, you varmints, there’s new sheriff in town!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:55:44am

re: #88 Targetpractice

This would be a good day to #deleteFacebook.

They are either racists, or they’re fine with a racist. If I had any Trumpers in my family, I wouldn’t associate with them either.

The bad behaviour of conservatism only will continue until it’s made apparent there is a price for being a conservative (like all the whinging articles in the Washington Post from Trump supporters or workers a couple years ago about how liberals wouldn’t date them; like all the Trump dating sites that got set up just to rip off conservatives’ money).

We have no obligation to help or even feel sympathy for people like the woman in Mexico Beach, Fla. who on a Cletus Safari after Hurricane Matthew said “he’s not hurting the right people.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:56:04am

Regarding the COVID situation here in Czech Republic, today, another 15,000 infected. A night curfew has been imposed and shopping on Sundays - and after 8 pm the rest of the week - is now prohibited.

That last measure, to be honest, seems counter-productive. What will end up happening is that people will now attack the supermarkets on Saturdays, thereby concentrating even more people into an indoor space.

There’s rock-solid statistical evidence that the primary transmission vector here is workplaces, particularly factories, production halls, warehouses and distribution centers. Unfortunately, the government has decided not to close those places, despite having done so earlier this year - which proved to be a successful tactic in stopping COVID transmission. They’re afraid that a 30-day (or 60-day) total industrial shutdown would absolutely sink the Czech economy well into next year…..and there’s elections coming in 2021.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 28, 2020 • 2:57:22am

re: #81 Targetpractice

After next week, millions of our fellow Americans will suddenly be “Good Republicans,” insisting that they only voted for Trump because (insert lame-ass excuse). They’ll be calling family, calling friends, begging for forgiveness for the last four years because they were “in a bad place,” but they suddenly want to make amends for all the mean things they said the last four years.

I wish I could remember which famous reporter it was who wrote a sarcastic essay on how hard it was to find Nazis in Berlin two months after V-E Day. For years I thought it was John Hersey but I think he had switched to the Pacific by then.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:08:56am

The special prosecutor appointed to investigate the shooting of James Scurlock by the Omaha bar owner during the George Floyd protests has moved to drop the investigation, following the receipt of the shooter’s death certificate from Oregon.

Special Prosecutor Frederick Franklin said Tuesday that he has received the death certificate for Jake Gardner and he intends to motion to dismiss the pending charges against him.

Franklin said the death certificate, from Washington County, Oregon, lists suicide by gunshot as the cause of Gardner’s death.

Additionally, Franklin released a lengthy statement on the case due to “community interest.” Much of the statement was previously discussed when Franklin held a press conference, but the entire document can be read here.

The article at KETV TV channel 7 (ABC) in Omaha goes into much more detail about the case and the grand jury which overturned the county prosecutor’s assertion that the shooting was in self-defence.

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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:12:08am

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I wish I could remember which famous reporter it was who wrote a sarcastic essay on how hard it was to find Nazis in Berlin two months after V-E Day. For years I thought it was John Hersey but I think he had switched to the Pacific by then.

In a perfect world, there would be a form of de-Trumpification starting next year that would go hard on making it clear to MAGAts just what it was they were supporting. Raw video footage from the camps that they insisted were “better” for immigrants than “anything back home.” Testimonials from the unemployed and destitute in industries ravaged by Trump’s trade war that was supposed to be “easy to win.” Images of tons of soybeans left to rot due to the Chinese market being closed off effectively forever. Forcing them to view the mass graves of CV-19 victims who could not be given proper burials because the resources necessary for such were being snatched by federal agents under Jared’s orders.

But in the real world, the people who most need to see all this are the ones who are going to go absolutely apeshit next week, insisting that the election was “stolen” by Biden and the Dems because Faux told them the election was gonna be a landslide victory for Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:16:32am

re: #95 Targetpractice

There can be both. Of course, the MAGAts are gonna scream and whine and pout. Let them pitch their little temper tantrum.

Then, sometime next year, when they’ve calmed down a bit….then comes the spanking. That’ll be the time for full-on, hardcore de-Trumpification.

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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:23:02am

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

There can be both. Of course, the MAGAt’s are gonna scream and whine and pout. Let them pitch their little temper tantrum.

Then, sometime next year, when they’ve calmed down a bit….then comes the spanking. That’ll be the time for full-on, hardcore de-Trumpification.

There are plenty of MAGAts out there who are still convinced that Obama “stole” one or both elections. I’ve heard more than a few opine that Trump won despite massive “fraud” by the Dems in 2016. And everybody from Faux to the Washington Examiner has them totally convinced that Trump is not only leading the race but there’s gonna be that “red wave” that they are totally convinced they were cheated out of in the midterms.

Trust me, these assholes are not gonna simmer down. If anything, the same voices right now telling them that the only way Trump can lose is through massive “fraud” are gonna be telling them everyday for the next 2-4 years that that is exactly what happened and Biden’s presidency is “illegitimate.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:26:36am

re: #97 Targetpractice

There are plenty of MAGAts out there who are still convinced that Obama “stole” one or both elections. I’ve heard more than a few opine that Trump won despite massive “fraud” by the Dems in 2016. And everybody from Faux to the Washington Examiner has them totally convinced that Trump is not only leading the race but there’s gonna be that “red wave” that they are totally convinced they were cheated out of in the midterms.

Trust me, these assholes are not gonna simmer down. If anything, the same voices right now telling them that the only way Trump can lose is through massive “fraud” are gonna be telling them everyday for the next 2-4 years that that is exactly what happened and Biden’s presidency is “illegitimate.”

True enough, but they are a minority, albeit, a highly vocal and obstreperous one. They need to be told “take a seat”. Or less politely, “sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, no one cares what you think anymore.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:30:12am

I wonder how Rabbi Michael Lerner feels after synagogue shootings, vandalism, marches of “Jews will not replace us,” &c, after writing this steaming pile of apologia in the New York Times right after the 2016 election: Stop Shaming Trump Supporters.

In that op-ed, he hit all the “liberal” media’s talking points: Liberals are elitists and out of touch, “economic anxiety,” not interested in advancing the Christian right’s agenda, &c.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:31:31am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is Omaha going to bill the Trump campaign for any of this fiasco?

Or simply watch some seniors get zapped by a hefty ambulance/emergency service bill that will somehow be the fault of liberals and socialism?
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:32:19am

re: #100 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Is Omaha going to bill the Trump campaign for any of this fiasco?

Or simply watch some seniors get zapped by a hefty ambulance/emergency service bill that will somehow be the fault of liberals and socialism?
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Omaha is run by a wingnut Republican, Mayor Jean Stothert. I doubt it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:35:35am

re: #97 Targetpractice

And that’s why you shun them, regardless of whether family or acquaintances. They are not fit for polite company.

And, Delete Terrorbook. Do it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:50:51am

I have many elderly relatives, who are only on Facebook, so I’m not going to delete my Facebook account. I don’t post but rarely, and usually just to respond to a relative.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:55:10am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 28, 2020 • 3:55:10am

re: #88 Targetpractice

Agreed on both points.

Really, expect to spent the next 2-4 years listening to pundits whining about how it’s liberals who are perpetuating partisanship in America by not “moving on” from the Trump years. The Cletus Safari will change from “This small town in Nowhere, PA still supports Trump” to “This small town in Backwoods, NY has been torn apart by anti-Trump hate.” And the “moderates” who whine now that their family won’t speak to them because of their support for Trump will whine that their family won’t forgive them for defending Trump even after he’s gone.

Seeing this already on Facebook from people who cast ballots for Trump twice while lamenting that there wasn’t “a choice” or good candidates in either 2016 or 2020. They’ve gotten their conservative judiciary, “punishment” of immigrant brown people and women, and “owning” of the liberals over the past four years. Along with a serious erosion of the country’s foreign reputation, domestic governing institutions, and in essence locking in total partisan power politics for at least the next two decades if not longer.

Trump, the GOP, and Covid-19 have essentially made complete a sea change in the American political and cultural landscape. Things are not going back to what they were in 2019, and certainly not regressing to a make believer golden era 1950 either.

(Aside: Curse you MS Edge. Memory leak, or something, just BSOD’d my laptop and trashed the first version of this comment. Grrr.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:00:35am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

True enough, but they are a minority, albeit, a highly vocal and obstreperous one. They need to be told “take a seat”. Or less politely, “sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, no one cares what you think anymore.”

If, and a big if, the GOP intends to reform and save itself, it will have to do more than say “take a seat” to these people. It needs to send them back into the wilderness.

I don’t think the GOP has realized that the past four years has also created a voting bloc that will not pull the lever for any GOP candidate at any level. Arguably monolithic voting is not necessarily good, but a group that is “party uber alles” expressly makes such a response logical since independence of action is not something inherent in the GOP at any level.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:23:39am

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I wish I could remember which famous reporter it was who wrote a sarcastic essay on how hard it was to find Nazis in Berlin two months after V-E Day. For years I thought it was John Hersey but I think he had switched to the Pacific by then.

—-

“I give her credit for having the courage to write and publish ‘Fazit’ (Account Rendered, 1963, the memoirs of a girl who joined the Hitler Youth and became a propagandist for the Nazi Party, and a leader of ejecting Polish farmers from their farms to resettle Germans in the General Government area) at the time she did. In 1963, nobody I met admitted to having been a Nazi. She may have been the first German, and certainly the first German woman, who tried to face her past with honesty. No other book at that time said, unequivocally, ‘I was a Nazi, and here’s why.’ I am certainly treated well in her memoir, with insight and respect. Melita eventually came to be horrified by Nazism, and I believe she really meant the book as an apology.”

The writer of the book was trying to tell her one-time friend in a series of letters how she became enmeshed in the Nazi Party, and apologising for being a spy for the Gestapo on her family.

The friend, who eventually wound up in the USA just as the war was breaking out, never contacted her again. She destroyed all the letters.

After “Account Rendered” came out, she wrote her own memoirs on their time as a counter to conservative/Nazi apologia which did not sell nearly as well.

A deft writer and practiced propagandist who understood the power of a vivid quote, detail, or anecdote, [Melita] Maschmann portrayed herself as a girl who came of age in a culture imbued with the shame of Germany’s defeat in the First World War. “Before I understood the meaning of the word ‘Germany,’ I loved it as something mysteriously overshadowed with grief…,” she writes. Her wealthy parents, avid newspaper readers and members of the conservative German National Party, complained about “the chaotic squabbling of Parliament” and the millions of people out of work, but had a sign affixed to their door that read “No Hawkers or Beggars.” Melita sympathized with them, and with the maid, chauffeur, and house seamstress. The latter wore an embossed metal swastika under the lapel of her coat, spoke movingly of Hitler, and was instrumental in Melita’s resolve “to follow a different road from the conservative one prescribed for me by family tradition.” The book documents twelve years of following that road.

Having betrayed her friends, and having been condemned by unrepentant Nazis after the war for writing the book, she left Germany and went to live in an Indian ashram with a person said to be a living prophet. None of the people who knew her during her time before or as a Nazi ever forgave her. She paid the price for her choices.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:26:01am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oops, the link at The New Yorker for the whole article:

I Was a Nazi, and Here’s Why (May 29, 1993)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:33:13am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Wow. After Trump’s rally tonight, he left thousands of supporters stranded in the blistering cold miles away from their cars.
omaha scanner
is currently reporting at least 30 patient contacts and 7 patient transports to the hospital. Elderly supporters were hit the hardest.

this will be spun as overwhelming proof of how popular he is

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:33:45am

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits me this morning?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:34:56am

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nice fear-mongering headline there, FOX.

they have already warned us what “Biden’s America” will look like…defunded police, religion banned, mandatory abortions, forced gay conversion, armed Mau-Mau rape/revenge gangs terrorizing our white suburbs, etc…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:35:53am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

this will be spun as overwhelming proof of how popular he is

That’s exactly how the entire Nebraska media presented it overnight and in the early morning now. Interestingly, the Scottsbluff Star-Herald does not cover the rally at all.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:37:01am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s exactly how the entire Nebraska media presented it overnight and in the early morning now. Interestingly, the Scottsbluff Star-Herald does not cover the rally at all.

Look, we already know he has popular support in some places (and in Nebraska, I’m not surprised that he was able to draw thousands). That was never in doubt. He is a lot less popular than he thinks he is, but this does nothing to either prove or disprove that statement.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:38:35am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

this will be spun as overwhelming proof of how popular he is

YEAH, I MEAN LOOK, YOU DON’T SEE PEOPLE WILLING TO DIE TO GO SEE BIDEN, DO YOU?!!

Yeah, that’s cult-like behavior in a nutshell right there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:47:49am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

YEAH, I MEAN LOOK, YOU DON’T SEE PEOPLE WILLING TO DIE TO GO SEE BIDEN, DO YOU?!!

Yeah, that’s cult-like behavior in a nutshell right there.

Biden will kill us all in due time, according to Fox News

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:47:52am

re: #113 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Look, we already know he has popular support in some places (and in Nebraska, I’m not surprised that he was able to draw thousands). That was never in doubt. He is a lot less popular than he thinks he is, but this does nothing to either prove or disprove that statement.

I agree, but what will happen is

a) The media here will continue flogging the idea Trump is popular to keep the voters in line here (and maybe flip NE-2 back to red, which is where the rally was) without mentioning he left his supporters in bitter cold afterward, and

b) the national media will pick up Nebraska reporting and pass it on uncritically, because the must maintain a horse race. They will not report NE-3 is the most conservative House district in the country, nor will they report that this rally at Eppley also included a bunch of MAGAs from Steve King’s district in Iowa.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:48:57am

re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits me this morning?

Herr Stephen Miller plans a flurry of executive orders, such as stripping Americans of birthright citizenship, making it harder for immigrants to become citizens, and reducing the number of refugees the US accepts to zero. theguardian.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:53:32am

re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits me this morning?

The first thing I check every morning is whether trump has stroked out yet.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:57:01am

re: #117 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Re: All These Executive Orders:

Can they be undone with one big EO that says “Most of this shit is harmful it’s gotta go.” type EO or does each individual one have to be physically undone, first on paper and then what happens? How quickly does shit stop? How is it enforced? Paper is great, it’s the truly horrible people carrying out these plans and orders that scare the fuck outta me.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:57:44am

re: #117 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Herr Stephen Miller plans a flurry of executive orders, such as stripping Americans of birthright citizenship, making it harder for immigrants to become citizens, and reducing the number of refugees the US accepts to zero. theguardian.com

Fuck that guy. Hang his ass for crimes against humanity.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 4:59:05am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:01:31am

re: #119 A Mom Anon

Re: All These Executive Orders:

Can they be undone with one big EO that says “Most of this shit is harmful it’s gotta go.” type EO or does each individual one have to be physically undone, first on paper and then what happens? How quickly does shit stop? How is it enforced? Paper is great, it’s the truly horrible people carrying out these plans and orders that scare the fuck outta me.

I believe there is a single piece of paper for each one that says something like “this notes that Executive Order 22222 had been recinded” and is signed.

I have seen them before but don’t recall exact wording.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:04:41am

re: #119 A Mom Anon

Re: All These Executive Orders:

Can they be undone with one big EO that says “Most of this shit is harmful it’s gotta go.” type EO or does each individual one have to be physically undone, first on paper and then what happens? How quickly does shit stop? How is it enforced? Paper is great, it’s the truly horrible people carrying out these plans and orders that scare the fuck outta me.

These are planned for a second term, which, dog willing, Trump won’t get. If he issues them as a lame duck, I assume Biden can repeal them all with one EO on January 21.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:12:44am

Good polling this morning has improved Biden’s odds of winning to 89% at fivethirtyeight.com. Remember that a week out in 2016, Trump’s odds were rapidly improving until they peaked at 35.4%, 4 days before the election, then they decreased as pollsters starting herding to play it safe. This is not a replay of 2016.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:14:12am

re: #120 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fuck that guy. Hang his ass for crimes against humanity.

Keep him in a child cage on the border for the rest of his life.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:16:26am

re: #124 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Good polling this morning has improved Biden’s odds of winning to 89% at fivethirtyeight.com. Remember that a week out in 2016, Trump’s odds were rapidly improving until they peaked at 35.4%, 4 days before the election, then they decreased as pollsters starting herding to play it safe. This is not a replay of 2016.

Nope, this is an unprecedented situation: the incumbent is desperate, aware that he faces criminal charges the moment he loses immunity, and clearly not about to shy away from using criminal methods to ensure that he does not lose.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:20:10am
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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:21:58am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nope, this is an unprecedented situation: the incumbent is desperate, aware that he faces criminal charges the moment he loses immunity, and clearly not about to shy away from using criminal methods to ensure that he does not lose.

He’s going to try; on that, we all agree. Where we vary is the degree of success we expect him to attain.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:22:17am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Let them eat cake” has been transformed into “let them wear couture.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:22:45am

re: #117 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Herr Stephen Miller plans a flurry of executive orders, such as stripping Americans of birthright citizenship, making it harder for immigrants to become citizens, and reducing the number of refugees the US accepts to zero. theguardian.com

Great, I can be deported to a country which no longer exists.

I recall my discussions with the village attorney in December 2016 about this, with him saying “they can’t do that.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:24:21am

re: #129 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“Let them eat cake” has been transformed into “let them wear couture.”

She is being memed to death on Twitter.

twitter.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:27:44am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:28:33am
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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:30:20am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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It shows how much he cares about his supporters - literally, not even in the slightest. He only cares about them showing up to support him; once he’s used them for his photo ops, they’re discarded like garbage.

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Targetpractice  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:39:07am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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So they were bused in, and then the buses left? What sort of logic does that make?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:40:15am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

ASK NOT WHAT A CON-ARTIST CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR A CON-ARTIST!!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:41:25am

re: #135 Targetpractice

So they were bused in, and then the buses left? What sort of logic does that make?

Chartered on an hourly basis, and the Trump campaign too cheap to have them waiting around until the rally was over? That sounds like Trump all the way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:47:28am

re: #128 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s going to try; on that, we all agree. Where we vary is the degree of success we expect him to attain.

Last time he just had criminal organizations and foreign governments backing him, this time he has the powers of the Presidency at his disposal.

What is slightly diminished is his ability to manipulate the media and dictate the narrative.

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jeffreyw  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:48:33am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:51:44am

Win. That’s all that matters. All the plans and suggestions for what to do after winning are just that - plans and suggestions that don’t matter if you don’t win the fucking election.

Biden has to win.

Democrats have to retake control of the Senate.

If Democrats fail on either, any talk of expanding the courts is moot.

Win both, and then you can start executing on the plans to expand the courts - to split circuits, add justices to all levels of the federal judiciary and immigration courts to deal with the backlog there. And you can then enact a law that requires the number of justices on the Supreme Court matches the number of circuits.

Concurrently, you can roll back all of Trump’s EOs with the wave of a pen, and order the DOJ to investigate and prosecute Trump for his felony conduct that was delayed due to a DOJ policy that prevents indicting a sitting president while in office.

And have the DOJ throw out that policy too. No one is above the law. The DOJ is not the president’s personal lawyer. You must divest your businesses entirely. You cannot hire nepotism picks to surround you in the WH so that they can profit personally and directly from the WH actions and threats, as with pushing Fed Reserve to lower interest rates that is a major benefit to Trump in reducing his debt load or tax breaks that specifically benefit Trump and his spawn.

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:56:22am

Trump’s Omaha superspreader rally already has significant casualties.

The botched logistics of getting people out of the venue has sent a bunch of people to the hospital:

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:58:15am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Last time he just had criminal organizations and foreign governments backing him, this time he has the powers of the Presidency at his disposal.

What is slightly diminished is his ability to manipulate the media and dictate the narrative.

This time, everyone is also fully aware of who he is and what he will, or could try to, do. It feels like we have war-gamed this quite thoroughly, and while I don’t know what the plan is for handling many of the contingencies, I’m having a hard time coming up with a new thing he could do that we haven’t thought of yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:58:51am

re: #141 lawhawk

Trump’s Omaha superspreader rally already has significant casualties.

The botched logistics of getting people out of the venue has sent a bunch of people to the hospital:

Make America Gangrenous Again!

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:59:17am

re: #119 A Mom Anon

Re: All These Executive Orders:

Can they be undone with one big EO that says “Most of this shit is harmful it’s gotta go.” type EO or does each individual one have to be physically undone, first on paper and then what happens? How quickly does shit stop? How is it enforced? Paper is great, it’s the truly horrible people carrying out these plans and orders that scare the fuck outta me.

EOs can be undone with the stroke of a pen by any future president.

Biden can undo all the EOs he wants. Expect the GOP to suddenly claim that Biden’s engaging in imperial power and stealing power from the legislature by doing this all while they were silent on Trump actually stealing the power of the legislature by purposefully breaking the law to take appropriated money from the Defense Department and other agencies to build his boondoggle wall.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 5:59:41am

re: #142 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This time, everyone is also fully aware of who he is and what he will, or could try to, do. It feels like we have war-gamed this quite thoroughly, and while I don’t know what the plan is for handling many of the contingencies, I’m having a hard time coming up with a new thing he could do that we haven’t thought of yet.

Because we do not have twisted criminal minds like he does…we can only hope that he will shoot himself in the foot or be hoist by his own petard.

But all he has to do is ensure that we are unable to recover and respond from whatever flash grenade he tosses at us until the damage is done and it is too late.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:03:28am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because we do not have twisted criminal minds like he does…we can only hope that he will shoot himself in the foot or be hoist by his own petard.

The one saving grace in all of this is Trump’s near-perfect incompetence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:06:57am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

The one saving grace in all of this is Trump’s near-perfect incompetence.

Brett Kavanaugh Lays Out a Plan to Help Trump Steal the Election
A Bush v. Gore 2.0 crisis just became much more likely.

He also has the SCOTUS behind him, which makes it all the more distressing…

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:10:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:11:49am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brett Kavanaugh Lays Out a Plan to Help Trump Steal the Election
A Bush v. Gore 2.0 crisis just became much more likely.

He also has the SCOTUS behind him, which makes it all the more distressing…

Then the margin of a Biden victory needs to be big enough to deter SCOTUS from looking at such a possibility. If the SCOTUS overturns a legit Biden victory, then it’s not too difficult to foresee Republicans decorating lamp posts from sea to shining sea.

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A Cranky One  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:12:08am

re: #4 BigPapa

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:13:08am

re: #149 Dr Lizardo

Then the margin of a Biden victory needs to be big enough to deter SCOTUS from looking at such a possibility. If the SCOTUS overturns a legit Biden victory, then it’s not too difficult to foresee Republicans decorating lamp posts from sea to shining sea.

To be honest, this is my biggest election related fear. That that this will happen and send the country right off the fucking rails.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:16:23am

re: #135 Targetpractice

So they were bused in, and then the buses left? What sort of logic does that make?

Saves Trump money.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:16:29am

read today’s electoral-vote.com
it won’t take long
you want hope and comfort? it’s there

Melania Trump Hits the Campaign Trail with an awfully negative speech (she’s not helping)
*Jared Kushner Is Not Helping His Father-in-Law
Biden has the ‘luxury’ to (and is) campaigning in GA, ME, IA, AZ, NC
The Ballots Are Pouring In - the news looks good
Abbott Wins the Ballot Box Battle, But Appears to be Losing the War
Trump Campaign Backs Off in Florida
One Last Funny Feeling - definitely read this - it’s very calming

*re blacks need to want to be successful:

It would appear that the First Son-in-Law is unfamiliar with the rules that govern white men sharing “hard truths” about the Black experience:

1. Don’t do it.
2. If you think this time might be the one exception to the first rule, it’s not.
3. If you’re a rich kid who had everything in life handed to you, then rules one and two apply doubly. Or triply.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:17:25am

I keep riding this emotional roller coaster between despair and optimism, but as we approach the election, I’m on the optimism upswing. Yes, Trump is a vile despicable human being. Yes, he no doubt has multiple plans to avoid losing this election. Yes, the Senate GOP and the Supreme Court will back him no matter what, even to their own deaths. But you know what? I believe that someone, somewhere, has accounted for these scenarios. If us armchair quarterbacks can imagine all these ideas - and the media has been reporting many of them in their breathless fear-mongering tone, as well - then there’s somebody out there who does this for a living who has imagined them as well. I am growing in my confidence that no matter what manner of fuckery Trump and his complicit traitors employ, come January 20th, his ass will belong to the Southern District of New York.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:18:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:18:49am

re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg

To be honest, this is my biggest election related fear. That that this will happen and send the country right off the fucking rails.

Those who are longing for a civil war will have their wish…

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:22:03am

My only concern is that Biden/Harris should make a final week sweep through MI, OH, WI, AZ, and PA. Take nothing for granted.

Running up the popular vote is all well and good, but if the distribution of votes falls the same way it did last time, we’re fooked.

Don’t be fooked. Vote. And fight for every last vote to be cast and counted as per the law and rules of each of the states.

The GOP is fighting tooth and nail to suppress turnout, deny votes as illegitimate, and to claim that votes cast or counted after election day don’t count or matter. That’s not the law. It was never the law.

They want to give the perception that we know who wins officially on election night. That’s never been the case. We have a presumptive winner usually on election night, but the final official counts are required before the December 14 deadline.

That usually means states have official count by the first week of December.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:22:06am

As to pennsylvania specifically because we’ve been talking about it,
Trump has never led there in a poll this year
Today’s poll has biden 52 to 45
They can’t all be wrong

That’s over 50% and outside the moe
No, maybe don’t relax.
It’s ok to feel a bit cautiously confident

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:23:37am

re: #3 Belafon

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The latest polls from EV give me a lot more hope today, seeing how they were showing reps with more senate seats until a few days ago…

I’m fine with Biden not carrying Texas if Greenfield, Cunningham, Ossoff, Bullock and even Warnock are taking their respective states now.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:24:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:26:06am

re: #157 lawhawk

Don’t be fooked. Vote. And fight for every last vote to be cast and counted as per the law and rules of each of the states.

They want to give the perception that we know who wins officially on election night. That’s never been the case. We have a presumptive winner usually on election night, but the final official counts are required before the December 14 deadline.

That usually means states have official count by the first week of December.

Two important points.

So when was the first time that election results were known on Election Day Eve? Especially before computerized vote tallies, the process took weeks, and before modern telephony & telegraphy, even months…

So Trump is really tipping his hand with his claim that “we need a final count on Election Day”, he is counting on being able to claim a majority at that point and then to try to disqualify anything else coming in as “suspect”…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:27:48am

re: #141 lawhawk

Trump’s Omaha superspreader rally already has significant casualties.

The botched logistics of getting people out of the venue has sent a bunch of people to the hospital:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:27:57am

Well Mike Espy tried, but our asshole GOP senator Cindy Hyde-Smith is still holding an 8 point lead in the latest polls so I don’t the Democrats will flip this one. Not that it’s ever easy for them to win in Mississippi.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:28:24am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And that’s all the shit going on BEFORE the inevitable Covid outbreak that will follow.

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JC1  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:31:01am

re: #30 Targetpractice

Well yes, Musk is a “genius” a lot like Edison was: He knew jack-shit about inventing, but he knew a great deal about marketing. His greatest invention was one that corporations follow to this day: Creating an R&D department whose work you can profit off of by slapping your name all over the patents and then suing anybody (including your own employees) for “infringing” upon them. While we know Tesla and alternating current only because the man was able to find a patron in George Westinghouse, Zod only knows how many other brilliant inventions were killed because Edison’s basic 19th century education made it impossible for him to see the profit in them.

I just don’t get the Musk hate. He’s nothing like Edison. If Edison wasn’t on the scene, nothing much would have changed except some other people would have gotten more historical credit. I see musk as a slightly less eccentric Howard Hughes.

Tesla and SpaceX are so far beyond the competition that without Musk on the scene we’d still be launching non reusable rockets and admiring the Chevy Volt as the pinnacle of electric car possibilities.
He’s a bit eccentric and weird, and I hope he doesn’t go full Howard Hughes, but he’s no Edison.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:31:25am

Trump needs to use this at his next rally:

Baby it’s cold outside

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:31:42am

re: #144 lawhawk

EOs can be undone with the stroke of a pen by any future president.

Biden can undo all the EOs he wants. Expect the GOP to suddenly claim that Biden’s engaging in imperial power and stealing power from the legislature by doing this all while they were silent on Trump actually stealing the power of the legislature by purposefully breaking the law to take appropriated money from the Defense Department and other agencies to build his boondoggle wall.

Well they just spent 3.5 years telling us the president can do any fucking thing the president wants, so they can just shut the fuck up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:32:38am
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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:34:44am

re: #167 Eventual Carrion

Well they just spent 3.5 years telling us the president can do any fucking thing the president wants, so they can just shut the fuck up.

Wont stop them though… because IOKIYAR.

It’s okay if you’re a Republican. The rules don’t apply equally or evenly. It’s not just hypocrisy. It’s pure power. They don’t want Democrats exercising the power that the GOP just straight up steals by ignoring the rule of law and the Constitution (as with the reappropriations without Congressional approval to build Trump’s wall).

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JC1  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:37:41am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

Rorschach had the best response to that one…..

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In my top 5 comic book movies of all time.

BTW, Jackie Earle Haley is probably the best reason to watch that film. He gave one hell of a performance.

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Belafon  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:43:31am

re: #165 JC1

I just don’t get the Musk hate. He’s nothing like Edison. If Edison wasn’t on the scene, nothing much would have changed except some other people would have gotten more historical credit. I see musk as a slightly less eccentric Howard Hughes.

Tesla and SpaceX are so far beyond the competition that without Musk on the scene we’d still be launching non reusable rockets and admiring the Chevy Volt as the pinnacle of electric car possibilities.
He’s a bit eccentric and weird, and I hope he doesn’t go full Howard Hughes, but he’s no Edison.

Tesla hasn’t launched dogs and elephants from the top of rockets to prove his competitors’ designs are flawed. Edison executed a few to make his points.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:45:07am

Another tick downward for Trump

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:45:24am

I really need to brush up on my Adobe Premiere/Final Cut video-making skills. Last night’s fiasco in Nebraska has the making of so many brutal anti-trump ads. You wouldn’t even need anything more than the scenes from the rally (during/after) and a voiceover.
When it comes to shooting yourself in the foot, tRump really is the gift that keeps on giving.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:45:40am

re: #172 Kilroy was here

Another tick downward for Trump

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Beat me to it ;)

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:49:03am

re: #95 Targetpractice

In a perfect world, there would be a form of de-Trumpification starting next year that would go hard on making it clear to MAGAts just what it was they were supporting. Raw video footage from the camps that they insisted were “better” for immigrants than “anything back home.” Testimonials from the unemployed and destitute in industries ravaged by Trump’s trade war that was supposed to be “easy to win.” Images of tons of soybeans left to rot due to the Chinese market being closed off effectively forever. Forcing them to view the mass graves of CV-19 victims who could not be given proper burials because the resources necessary for such were being snatched by federal agents under Jared’s orders.

But in the real world, the people who most need to see all this are the ones who are going to go absolutely apeshit next week, insisting that the election was “stolen” by Biden and the Dems because Faux told them the election was gonna be a landslide victory for Trump.

With a mona lisa smile, I will quietly drink my champagne and play my tiny tiny violin

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garzooma  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:50:30am

re: #172 Kilroy was here

Another tick downward for Trump

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FiveThirtyEight mentions that Biden got very good news on Wisconsin from a high quality poll, leading by 17% (not a typo).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:51:15am

re: #176 garzooma

FiveThirtyEight mentions that Biden got very good news on Wisconsin from a high quality poll, leading by 17% (not a typo).

margins like that are what we need to pre-empt any sort of legal or procedural challenges from Trump

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:52:00am

re: #173 (((Archangel1)))

I really need to brush up on my Adobe Premiere/Final Cut skills. Last night’s fiasco in Nebraska has the making of so many brutal anti-trump ads. You wouldn’t even need anything more than the scenes from the rally and a voiceover.
When it comes to shooting yourself in the foot, tRump really is the gift that keeps on giving.

I am trying to get together in my mind who’s job it was to get those busses back in to pick these people up. Were they contracted through the tRump campaign or some other outside group? What reason was there for them not showing up to pick these people up? If just congested roads, why didn’t the people just wait somewhere out of the elements until the busses finally got there? Guess I should go try and find a valid source of this story, but everything so far has been kinda sketchy to me.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:53:57am

re: #113 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Look, we already know he has popular support in some places (and in Nebraska, I’m not surprised that he was able to draw thousands). That was never in doubt. He is a lot less popular than he thinks he is, but this does nothing to either prove or disprove that statement.

it was a trump rally of course there will only be supporters there

this is about organization, planning and logistics. nothing else.
and they suck at this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:55:17am

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s all the shit going on BEFORE the inevitable Covid outbreak that will follow.

Statewide:

Positive test percentage: 11.1%
New cases: 877
Every county had new cases except two
experience.arcgis.com

Douglas County [seat: Omaha]
Positive test percentage: 16.7%
New cases: 770 (Douglas County accumulates new cases once a week, this week ends October 31)
Most by age: 20-29, 30-39, then 40-49
Deaths: 223 (+4 so far this week)
Most by age: 85+, 75-84, then 65-74 (taking Covid home from the rally last night to kill mom, dad, or grandparents)
experience.arcgis.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:56:14am

re: #179 dangerman

it was a trump rally of course there will only be supporters there

this is about organization, planning and logistics. nothing else.
and they suck at this.

they are not known for thinking things through or sweating the operational details

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:56:29am
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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:57:34am

re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits me this morning?

5:30-6 AM is dark these days.
And quiet. — i dont carry a phone or music or headphones. nothing.

some birds are awake, insects, and my feet (hopefully) lightly plodding along.
traffic sounds when i get near the main drags.

no lights on the trails and many sections of many roads.
just the small light on my belt to maybe avoid hitting a hazard or two or a hanging spider….

it is peaceful.
then the sun rises and I’m a part of it and WOW!

not a hint of politics or elections or courts.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 6:59:20am

re: #119 A Mom Anon

Re: All These Executive Orders:

Can they be undone with one big EO that says “Most of this shit is harmful it’s gotta go.” type EO or does each individual one have to be physically undone, first on paper and then what happens? How quickly does shit stop? How is it enforced? Paper is great, it’s the truly horrible people carrying out these plans and orders that scare the fuck outta me.

First day, first EO:. Everything that last guy did is bullshit.
Invite joe pesci to the signing and let him read it out loud

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:00:32am

re: #184 dangerman

First day, first EO:. Everything that last guy did is bullshit.
Invite joe pesci to the signing and let him read it out loud

That. Is. Perfect.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:02:36am

re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That. Is. Perfect.

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:02:56am

re: #184 dangerman

First day, first EO:. Everything that last guy did is bullshit.
Invite joe pesci to the signing and let him read it out loud

Alternate Joe Pesci with Samuel L Jackson.

Joe Pesci can be Biden’s anger translator.
Samuel L Jackson can be Kamala’s (or Queen Latifah or Leslie Jones).

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:03:57am

Yeah, she was a hottie back then. She’s still a gorgeous woman.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:04:14am

re: #184 dangerman

First day, first EO:. Everything that last guy did is bullshit.
Invite joe pesci to the signing and let him read it out loud

Or Samuel L Jackson.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:05:01am

re: #30 Targetpractice

Well yes, Musk is a “genius” a lot like Edison was: He knew jack-shit about inventing, but he knew a great deal about marketing. His greatest invention was one that corporations follow to this day: Creating an R&D department whose work you can profit off of by slapping your name all over the patents and then suing anybody (including your own employees) for “infringing” upon them. While we know Tesla and alternating current only because the man was able to find a patron in George Westinghouse, Zod only knows how many other brilliant inventions were killed because Edison’s basic 19th century education made it impossible for him to see the profit in them.

Edison’s patron was Henry Ford, who probably taught him all he needed to know about marketing products and crushing the competition. The Henry Ford in Dearborn has “Edison’s Dying Breath” in a bottle. How creepy is that?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:07:17am

re: #187 lawhawk

Joe Pesci is probably a Trump supporter so that may not work.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:07:25am

re: #178 Eventual Carrion

I am trying to get together in my mind who’s job it was to get those busses back in to pick these people up. Were they contracted through the tRump campaign or some other outside group? What reason was there for them not showing up to pick these people up? If just congested roads, why didn’t the people just wait somewhere out of the elements until the busses finally got there? Guess I should go try and find a valid source of this story, but everything so far has been kinda sketchy to me.

——

Local Democrats criticized Trump for having a large rally during the pandemic, calling it a superspreader event.

“This is a reckless act by a chaotic president,” said Jane Kleeb, chair of the Nebraska Democratic Party.

The Trump campaign held the rally outside at Omaha’s Eppley Airfield. Although the campaign said every attendee was given a mask and instructed to wear it, many people went without.

A reporter estimated more than 6,000 people attended the rally. Law enforcement and campaign sources estimated the crowd above 10,000. Trump said the crowd was 29,000.

Angela Schock, 52, of Lincoln, said she came to see the president because “I’m an American, and I love Trump. He gets things done.”

Asked what he got done, she said “Israel, that he takes care of our military,” and she has a lot of military in her family.

Schock, who wasn’t wearing a mask, says she wasn’t worried about catching coronavirus in the crowd, though she brought a face covering in case. “You have to live life while you’re here. No concerns.”

(more)

Thousands attend President Trump’s rally in Omaha (Daily Nonpareil, Council Bluffs, Iowa)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:07:40am

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

Edison’s patron was Henry Ford, who probably taught him all he needed to know about marketing products and crushing the competition. The Henry Ford in Dearborn has “Edison’s Dying Breath” in a bottle. How creepy is that?

A lot of Social Darwinism takes this “survival of the fittest” to mean “survival of the biggest and the baddest”.

So where are all the big bad T-Rexes, Megalodons and Saber-Tooth Tigers?

Over-specialized and unable to adapt…

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A Cranky One  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:17:07am

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:17:41am

re: #188 lawhawk

Damn, she’s looking fine for almost 70! Wonder Woman indeed!

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:20:25am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they are not known for thinking things through or sweating the operational details

Bingo

The equivalent of “herd immunity”
I’m leaving. The herd will figure it out after I’m gone

You *know* joe would have stayed around directing traffic

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lawhawk  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:22:49am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Damn, she’s looking fine for almost 70! Wonder Woman indeed!

No kidding. She looks 30-40 years younger than that.

I’ll have what she’s having.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:25:33am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:29:52am

Lre: #187 lawhawk

Alternate Joe Pesci with Samuel L Jackson.

Joe Pesci can be Biden’s anger translator.
Samuel L Jackson can be Kamala’s (or Queen Latifah or Leslie Jones).

Nah you need an Irish guy to be Biden’s anger translator.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:30:49am

re: #191 Patricia Kayden

Joe Pesci is probably a Trump supporter so that may not work.

I dunno. He’s pals with Scorsese and DeNiro and they hate Trump.

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BigPapa  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:40:24am

Trump’s new campaign anthem:

Baby it’s cold outside

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:45:04am

From yesterday:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:47:39am
CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — Wyoming now ranks among the worst states for spread of the coronavirus as its residents grow weary of measures to protect themselves and state officials refrain from reimposing public-health orders to try to force compliance.

Wyoming ranks among the top five states for new coronavirus infections per capita over the past week of surging cases nationwide, according to Johns Hopkins and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Almost 3,300 people in the state had tested positive for the coronavirus as of Tuesday and not yet recovered, up from about 500 in July, according to the Wyoming Department of Health.

People hospitalized with COVID-19 in the state this week topped 100, more than double the number just two weeks ago.

The state’s death toll increased by seven in the past week to reach 77. The recent deaths announced Monday by the state health department included five residents of New Horizons Care Center, a long-term care facility in Lovell.

(more)

Wyoming among top five ‘worst’ states for COVID-19 infection rate (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:47:55am

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Parking at the TRUMP rally is full. Shuttles will no longer be transporting people to the event. You will not be able to access the rally by foot, UBER,or any other means of transportation. Parking is not allowed in surrounding neighborhoods, roadways or businesses.

aren’t the shuttles a matter for the organizers to take care of?

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sagehen  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:48:21am

re: #81 Targetpractice

After next week, millions of our fellow Americans will suddenly be “Good Republicans,” insisting that they only voted for Trump because (insert lame-ass excuse). They’ll be calling family, calling friends, begging for forgiveness for the last four years because they were “in a bad place,” but they suddenly want to make amends for all the mean things they said the last four years.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:51:34am

Dow is down.
Again
So Trump’s dream of 30k isn’t happening before the election.
Wouldn’t help anyway.

Wanna bet it will too after biden wins?**

** And that trump will take the credit, of course

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:51:45am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

aren’t the shuttles a matter for the organizers to take care of?

Yup. There is no way to walk to Eppley Field either.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:53:31am

re: #205 sagehen

And hopefully some day “Republican” will have the same historic equivalence to “evil.”

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BigPapa  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:53:42am

Trump is an utter clown and will go out as he came in: an oft falling upward failure and complete fuckup. Because it was never about Trump: it was about White American grievance pulling it’s last hurrah before its demographic demise, requiring the assistance of it’s former enemy to cling to power for a little longer, it’s final figurehead representing what a cartoonish failure it’s existence is. The American right and Trump deserve each other.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:53:50am

re: #206 dangerman

Dow is down.
Again
So Trump’s dream of 30k isn’t happening before the election.
Wouldn’t help anyway.

Wanna bet it will too after biden wins?

nope, the stock market is going to tank. the only thing keeping it afloat is the artificial boost that Trump gave to it: Biden will have to choose between further increasing the deficit, aiding working & middle class people people and bailing out the stock market again.

it will be a rough, no-win decision either way.

And of course the GOP will tell us all about how it is fully his fault…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:56:04am

Hopefully if Biden wins and passes a real ass Covid relief bill in the new year and starting taking serious measures to actually control this pandemic, the stock market will tick up a little.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:58:17am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:58:19am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:58:56am

re: #205 sagehen

All roads lead to Hillary.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 7:59:51am

re: #214 Dave In Austin

All roads lead to Hillary.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:00:00am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Hopefully if Biden wins and passes a real ass Covid relief bill in the new year and starting taking serious measures to actually control this pandemic, the stock market will tick up a little.

—-

If Joe Biden wins next week’s election, he says he’ll immediately call Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease expert. He’ll work with governors and local officials to institute a nationwide mask-wearing mandate and ask Congress to pass a sweeping spending bill by the end of January to address the coronavirus and its fallout.

That alone would mark a significant shift from President Donald Trump, who has feuded with scientists, struggled to broker a new stimulus deal and reacted to the recent surge in U.S. virus cases by insisting the country is “rounding the turn.”

But Biden would still face significant political challenges in combating the worst public health crisis in a century. He will encounter the limits of federal powers when it comes to mask requirements and is sure to face resistance from Republicans who may buck additional spending.

starherald.com

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Dave In Austin  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:01:21am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have some funds in need to pull from Fidelity. We are waiting till after the 3rd to see what happens.

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dangerman  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:01:56am

Remember “only the best”?

The Daily Beast counts at least 18 people connected to President Trump who “have been locked up, indicted, or arrested since the real-estate mogul announced his candidacy in 2015

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:02:46am

re: #216 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

starherald.com

A nationwide mask mandate: Could it look something like manipulating federal funding to encourage states to pass a legislature bill (thus doing an end run around the BUTBUTBUT THE GUBNOR CAN’T DO THAT that the Republicans have been engaging in for months) to implement a mandatory mask/social distancing/indoor capacity limit mandate?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:04:40am

re: #209 BigPapa

Trump is an utter clown and will go out as he came in: a falling upward failure and complete fuckup. Because it was never about Trump: it was about White American grievance pulling it’s last hurrah before it demographic demise, requiring the assistance of it’s former enemy to cling to power for a little longer, it’s final figurehead representing what a cartoonish failure it’s existence is. The American right and Trump deserve each other.

Exactomundo.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:07:08am

Sportsball will go on no matter how many people we have to kill.

What does it take for a Big Ten game to get canceled because of the coronavirus? Perhaps only a team’s own discretion and caution.

Word leaked out this week about positive COVID-19 tests inside Wisconsin’s football program — specifically with its quarterbacks. The Badger athletic department and coach Paul Chryst declined to comment publicly about specific players. But Chryst said Monday he was confident about the game with Nebraska being played, presumably because of roster size and players available at given positions.

(more, top story at the Omaha World-Herald)

How can a Big Ten football game get canceled due to COVID?

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makeitstop  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:09:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:10:23am

re: #217 Dave In Austin

I have some funds in need to pull from Fidelity. We are waiting till after the 3rd to see what happens.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:13:01am

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Facebook did NOT like the Don Winslow link I posted. Said it went against “community standards” yet my brainwashed relatives post multiple lies about Hunter Biden molesting kids and harvesting them for adrenochrome and Marky Mark won’t lift a finger.

So I”m going to cut way back on Fascistbook. I deleted it from my iPhone and iPads because I don’t like Marky Mark tracing where I go on the net.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:14:13am

re: #224 🌹UOJB!

I’ve mentioned before, I cut myself off from Facebook a few months ago, when my mom was posting Ron Paul coronavirus denial memes. And then she wonders why we don’t want to come home for Thanksgiving this year.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:16:40am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I wonder how Rabbi Michael Lerner feels after synagogue shootings, vandalism, marches of “Jews will not replace us,” &c, after writing this steaming pile of apologia in the New York Times right after the 2016 election: Stop Shaming Trump Supporters.

In that op-ed, he hit all the “liberal” media’s talking points: Liberals are elitists and out of touch, “economic anxiety,” not interested in advancing the Christian right’s agenda, &c.

2 years ago yesterday the MAGAT slaughtered 11 people at the Tree Of Life synagogue. Not a peep from Lerner. Let that sink in.

NEVER FORGET. NEVER FORGIVE.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:17:34am

re: #222 makeitstop

There is a Christian Wingnut on that thread spamming every last comment with this. I presume the Twitterati here could report them as spammers.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:18:23am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There is a Christian Wingnut on that thread spamming every last comment with this. I presume the Twitterati here could report them as spammers.

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What does that even mean? Like, it makes zero sense.

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mmmirele  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:19:28am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:20:33am

re: #4 BigPapa

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Even the most fiendish, cruel Democratic ratfucker would not do what Trump did to GOP supporters last night. And yet, they delight in being treated with cruel disdain.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:21:34am

re: #139 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:23:57am

re: #230 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

If you watch through to the end, the woman is clearly doing a deadpan piss-take…but a convincing one.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:24:06am

re: #228 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What does that even mean? Like, it makes zero sense.

I have no idea. If nothing else, he’s cluttering up the Lincoln Project’s thread with it.

The account was created Sept 2011 and has 74 followers and 90 following.

HIs bio makes about no sense either.

King, Prophet and Supreme Cohen Gadol in the Melquisedec Order, King of Salem. Judah-PR
🇵🇷
& Israel-USA
🇺🇸
. My Father’s (Abraham L.) Kingdom. Ezekiel 37

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:24:51am

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wow, that is a super hard-core religious zealot. I haven’t seen a bio like that in… dear God, probably 25 years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:26:14am

re: #230 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Questioner: What was that lesson?

Woman: I don’t think you need to know, and that was nasty of you to ask.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:27:14am

re: #216 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Republicans can just shut right the fuck up about “additional spending”.

RIGHT. THE FUCK. UP.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:27:37am

re: #230 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

You know she’s a comedian, right?

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:28:09am
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BigPapa  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:28:50am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you watch through to the end, the woman is clearly doing a deadpan piss-take…but a convincing one.

Blaire Erskine is hilarious. That was as good as it gets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:30:51am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you watch through to the end, the woman is clearly doing a deadpan piss-take…but a convincing one.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:31:01am

re: #154 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I keep riding this emotional roller coaster between despair and optimism, but as we approach the election, I’m on the optimism upswing. Yes, Trump is a vile despicable human being. Yes, he no doubt has multiple plans to avoid losing this election. Yes, the Senate GOP and the Supreme Court will back him no matter what, even to their own deaths. But you know what? I believe that someone, somewhere, has accounted for these scenarios. If us armchair quarterbacks can imagine all these ideas - and the media has been reporting many of them in their breathless fear-mongering tone, as well - then there’s somebody out there who does this for a living who has imagined them as well. I am growing in my confidence that no matter what manner of fuckery Trump and his complicit traitors employ, come January 20th, his ass will belong to the Southern District of New York.

I believe our Moaning Myrtle lizards would be happier (as would the rest of us) if they didn’t rehash exactly the same arguments Every. Single. Day.

Also too, if they didn’t create and post right-wing talking points every time something happens that reflects badly on the repugs.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:32:33am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you watch through to the end, the woman is clearly doing a deadpan piss-take…but a convincing one.

Yeah, she has a few video’s out there I have seen. She is just goofing on tRump supporters.

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BigPapa  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:33:38am

re: #238 (((Archangel1)))

OMG they’re on fire. I woke Wife Unit up laughing.

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makeitstop  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:36:23am

re: #230 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

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Blair Erskine is a comedian whose specialty is imitating brain-dead Trumpers.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:36:37am

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:38:03am

re: #183 dangerman

5:30-6 AM is dark these days.
And quiet. — i dont carry a phone or music or headphones. nothing.

some birds are awake, insects, and my feet (hopefully) lightly plodding along.
traffic sounds when i get near the main drags.

no lights on the trails and many sections of many roads.
just the small light on my belt to maybe avoid hitting a hazard or two or a hanging spider….

it is peaceful.
then the sun rises and I’m a part of it and WOW!

not a hint of politics or elections or courts.

Carry your damn phone. Turned off or on night mode, but carry it. All sorts of things can happen.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:38:19am

re: #245 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Hey, better than surströmming soda.

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ericblair  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:39:03am

If anyone’s into some light reading, Lawfare’s walkthrough of contested elections is here. I think we’ve kicked around most of this stuff here at some point or another.

The upshot I got out of this is that, if things really go to hell, control of the House is key. Then, the real super duper nuclear option if the Republicans play insane games with the electors is for the Democrats to walk out of the Joint Session, making it fail a quorum and have no electoral votes counted, and then say hi to President Pelosi.

My personal view about the argument “well, the Supreme Court will ignore the law and the Constitution to re-elect Trump”, is that the Supreme Court could ignore the law and the Constitution to proclaim Trump President-for-Life tomorrow. Neither statement is very useful without some sort of real-world context.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:42:01am

re: #246 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Carry your damn phone. Turned off or on night mode, but carry it. All sorts of thongs can happen.

Indeed.

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steve_davis  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:42:25am

re: #45 Dread Pirate Ron

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“You’re the best I’ve ever had” is not five words, you illiterate, sexually satisfied morons.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:45:50am
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:47:43am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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makeitstop  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:50:22am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:55:17am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This sub-thread is kinda sad. They see it and know the ramifications. I feel bad for people of faith, real people of faith.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:59:01am

re: #52 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Dodgers’ win will always have an asterisk after it in the books. This was not a real World Series, because the season was broken and the playoff games were cobbled together out of the ashes.

Don’t agree. If the Yankees won I would have added another World Championship to the list. They had one of the best records and had to beat everyone else in the playoffs. They pandemic had nothing to do with them. The number of games has been expanded at least once and the playoff sked changed multiple times. They won the series. On to next year.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 8:59:39am

Quarantine Questions: Pre-Election Survival Guide - Part 2 | Full Frontal on TBS

Quarantine Questions: Pre-Election Survival Guide - Part 2 | Full Frontal on TBS

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:04:11am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Indeed.

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Okay, I went back and corrected it. Neener.

(After seeing the new Borat mask-kini, I’ve been thinking about the picture you posted, still my nominee for most obscene picture I’ve ever seen. No, I don’t want to see your candidates for “more obscene, thank you very much.)

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nines09  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:05:25am

And good morning to…..what the………hell………….

Almost a foot long. 2020 Bingo sucks.

Antarctic Scale Worm it looks like.

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ericblair  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:06:48am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:07:09am

re: #230 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

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Just so you know, Blair Erskine is a comedian, not an actual Trump supporter; but very funny!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:12:01am

re: #260 ericblair

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Its traumatizing that there is still an 11% chance that Trump could close the 5 point gap in Pennsylvania and win. It has soared to a 40% probability of being the tipping point state.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:13:51am

re: #253 makeitstop

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:14:54am

Seems a real shame the Dodger celebration turned destructive downtown. I will never understand why breaking and burning stores or cars are fun things to do. On a less destructive note, there were a lot of fireworks set off.

I’m starting to ponder election night. How wild is that gonna be?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:21:31am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:22:27am

re: #264 Rightwingconspirator

Seems a real shame the Dodger celebration turned destructive downtown. I will never understand why breaking and burning stores or cars are fun things to do. On a less destructive note, there were a lot of fireworks set off.

I’m starting to ponder election night. How wild is that gonna be?

Drunk people are prone to doing stupid things. Also, herd mentality.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:23:45am

Like re: #265 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Bring it bloated assholes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:24:59am

re: #258 nines09

And good morning to…..what the………hell………….

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Jay C  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:25:24am

I know it’s just a random musing, but the latest campaign debacle in Omaha got me thinking. For all The Orange Anus loves to blather on about the size of the crowds he draws: if there were no Coronavirus pandemic, and Joe and Kamala could be doing the “normal” campaign touring, I wonder how large the crowds might be that THEY would draw?

The answer, of course, is probably somewhere between “humongous” and “ginormous”.

Not that they’re doing too badly without the big rallies…

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:26:38am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sportsball will go on no matter how many people we have to kill.

(more, top story at the Omaha World-Herald)

How can a Big Ten football game get canceled due to COVID?

Rome must have her gladiators.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:28:31am

I kind of love this because my mom use to have a large orange tabby Shijo.
I used to call him Rex, pat him on the head, and tell him he was a good dog.
That ‘dog’ adored me
lol

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:28:40am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

People are starting to see the handwriting on the wall - better get a deal now before a new AG takes over….and sends them all to the slammer for the rest of their lives.

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nines09  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:34:31am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:36:28am

re: #273 nines09

“Are they still behind me?”

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Jay C  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:37:14am

re: #273 nines09

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That look….

You mess with me, asshole: you mess with my friends….
And my friends ain’t as friendly as me…..

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nines09  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:38:11am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

re: #275 Jay C

“Step right up…….”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:38:35am

re: #269 Jay C

I know it’s just a random musing, but the latest campaign debacle in Omaha got me thinking. For all The Orange Anus loves to blather on about the size of the crowds he draws: if there were no Coronavirus pandemic, and Joe and Kamala could be doing the “normal” campaign touring, I wonder how large the crowds might be that THEY would draw?

The answer, of course, is probably somewhere between “humongous” and “ginormous”.

Not that they’re doing too badly without the big rallies…

I don’t doubt it. People really like Kamala and the campaign knows that. And honestly while Biden isn’t Obama, I do find him in his own way inspiring because he’s willing to listen as times change. It’s why I think he’s a better example of what a liberal is than Bernie who quite frankly is still fighting the same class reductionist battle.

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Jay C  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:40:01am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

People are starting to see the handwriting on the wall - better get a deal now before a new AG takes over….and sends them all to the slammer for the rest of their lives.

“Rest of their lives” is probably an overestimation: though the prospect of the US Attorney arranging them a multi-year lease at the Greybar Hotel is probably an “inspiring” prospect.

Think they’d make Rudy Giuliani a trusty??

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Dave In Austin  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:41:08am
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steve_davis  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:41:10am

re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg

To be honest, this is my biggest election related fear. That that this will happen and send the country right off the fucking rails.

I was just about to write that exact same thing. Unless this election literally is something that is dependent on hanging chads, there would be justices hanging from lamp posts if they tried to overturn the results. Democracy sublimates the passions of the mob. If democracy goes out the window, so do the restraints it places on the actions of the vox populi.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:41:24am

re: #230 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:42:31am

This is an ACTUAL TRUMP AD not a Lincoln Project parody. Yes he has gone Full Benito.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:42:57am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

They better hurry up if they’re going to flip, because we’re getting ready to burn the lifeboats.

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Teukka  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:44:33am

re: #245 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Well, at least it isn’t Surströmming or Hákarl

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jaunte  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:45:14am

re: #282 The Pie Overlord!

That was amazingly moronic.

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Jay C  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:45:15am

re: #282 The Pie Overlord!

This is an ACTUAL TRUMP AD not a Lincoln Project parody. Yes he has gone Full Benito.

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He better stay away from gas stations……

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jaunte  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:46:52am
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nines09  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:47:20am
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jaunte  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:47:27am

And then he figured out he didn’t need to bus them home.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:47:37am

re: #264 Rightwingconspirator

Seems a real shame the Dodger celebration turned destructive downtown. I will never understand why breaking and burning stores or cars are fun things to do. On a less destructive note, there were a lot of fireworks set off.

I’m starting to ponder election night. How wild is that gonna be?

Clusterf*ck of the Century

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:48:21am

re: #265 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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So we should stand our ground and shoot any of them we see in self defense in light of these direct threats and fear for our lives?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:49:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:49:31am

re: #282 The Pie Overlord!

This is an ACTUAL TRUMP AD not a Lincoln Project parody. Yes he has gone Full Benito.

88022?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:50:53am

re: #292 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Jared, no contest.

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Renaissance_Man  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:51:10am

re: #280 steve_davis

I was just about to write that exact same thing. Unless this election literally is something that is dependent on hanging chads, there would be justices hanging from lamp posts if they tried to overturn the results. Democracy sublimates the passions of the mob. If democracy goes out the window, so do the restraints it places on the actions of the vox populi.

I think that’s a bit optimistic unfortunately. I think Americans will largely accept a blatantly stolen election, just as they have accepted thousands of unnecessary gun deaths a year, widespread poverty and medical bankruptcy, and indeed previously stolen elections. They accept all of these because their major media sources tell them to accept it, either subtly or overtly.

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piratedan  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:51:30am

re: #292 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

McConnell for me

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:51:32am

re: #294 Dr Lizardo

Jared, no contest.

That was my vote

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:52:37am

Llre: #294 Dr Lizardo

Jared, no contest.

Ditto. Dorsey sucks but Jared is worse.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:53:34am

re: #296 piratedan

McConnell for me

Well shit if we get write ins, I want Stephen Miller.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:54:03am

re: #264 Rightwingconspirator

Seems a real shame the Dodger celebration turned destructive downtown. I will never understand why breaking and burning stores or cars are fun things to do. On a less destructive note, there were a lot of fireworks set off.

I’m starting to ponder election night. How wild is that gonna be?

Antifa supersoldier liberal radical socialists are Dodgers fans. You learn something new here every day. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:55:09am

re: #299 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Well shit if we get write ins, I want Stephen Miller.

I’ll take Gina Haspel for the dark horse candidate.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:58:14am

It looks like Lindsey is going to win reelection. Not sure if anything can be done at this point. I throw more money in if I thought it would help.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:59:41am

re: #265 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why don’t the Qnuts go after the Oath Keepers? They’re such charming people.

Charles Alan Dyer was a Marine sergeant who operated as an advocate for the Oath Keepers, an anti-government, far-right group described as domestic terrorists by several monitors. Dyer was charged in 2010 with child rape and illegal weapons possession. Dyer evaded authorities and a manhunt ensued, followed by capture ten days later. In 2012, Dyer was convicted on his child rape charge.

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Citizen K  Oct 28, 2020 • 9:59:44am

re: #302 I Would Prefer Not To

It looks like Lindsey is going to win reelection. Not sure if anything can be done at this point. I throw more money in if I thought it would help.

Did Harrison’s numbers crater in the past few days or something?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:03:01am

Jeez. Read this.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:03:24am

re: #284 Teukka

Well, at least it isn’t Surströmming or Hákarl

I’ve heard stories about unsuspecting people nearby when a can of Surströmming is opened - makes a skunk smell positively pleasant, and has been known to clean out a room of people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:03:35am

re: #302 I Would Prefer Not To

It looks like Lindsey is going to win reelection. Not sure if anything can be done at this point. I throw more money in if I thought it would help.

We’ll have to see. If Graham wins reëlection, Mr. Harrison will have done what Beto O’Rourke did for Texas Democratic politicians.

Speaking of Texas, just up:

Cook Political Moves Texas to Toss-up in Presidential Race (270 to win)

Less than a week out from the presidential election, The Cook Political Report has moved Texas to Toss-up status. The Lone Star State hasn’t voted for a Democratic presidential nominee since 1976 (Jimmy Carter) and hasn’t elected a Democrat to any statewide office since 1994. However, recent elections have been increasingly competitive. Donald Trump’s nine-point win in 2016 was the smallest GOP margin since 1996. In 2018, Sen. Ted Cruz narrowly won reelection, defeating Beto O’Rourke by about 2.6%.

The president currently holds a one-point lead in the 270toWin polling average, reflecting recent polls that have ranged from a Trump lead of five points to Biden being ahead by three.

270 to Win now shows Texas as a toss-up.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:04:34am

re: #302 I Would Prefer Not To

It looks like Lindsey is going to win reelection. Not sure if anything can be done at this point. I throw more money in if I thought it would help.

Don’t give up. He still can do it.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:05:04am

re: #304 Citizen K

Did Harrison’s numbers crater in the past few days or something?

He down two points on electoral vote.com. He’s polling a little better than Biden.

I get texts every few hours or so. Same say he is up, others down. some tied. I don’t know anymore.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:05:11am

re: #305 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Jeez. Read this.

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Who knew that a whiny President was a turnoff.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:05:58am

re: #309 I Would Prefer Not To

He down two points on electoral vote.com. He’s polling a little better than Biden.

I get texts every few hours or so. Same say he is up, others down. some tied. I don’t know anymore.

Two points dude. In a smaller state like SC, good turnout can change that.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:06:16am

re: #309 I Would Prefer Not To

He down two points on electoral vote.com. He’s polling a little better than Biden.

I get texts every few hours or so. Same say he is up, others down. some tied. I don’t know anymore.

Two points down is a perfectly good fighting position in the last week of GOTV.

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steve_davis  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:06:26am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Hopefully if Biden wins and passes a real ass Covid relief bill in the new year and starting taking serious measures to actually control this pandemic, the stock market will tick up a little.

Not only that, but immediately extend citizenship to all Dreamers and their families, and then make a point of providing citizenship to 3 million asylum seekers, while giving a state of the union address that includes both a nod to a child sitting next to Jill Biden who survived the concentration camps in Texas, and also a nod to a couple of Hispanic refugees whose child has still not been recovered from those stolen from their parents at the border. “I pledge to you tonight that America will do everything in its power to restore your child to you, and to harshly those responsible for the immoral, ungodly actions that stole your child from you,” says Biden.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:06:44am

I’m going to log off and work on Comedy. I’ve got two zoom shows this week.

More latter.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:08:50am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

Two points down is a perfectly good fighting position in the last week of GOTV.

Yep. Honestly when Webb beat Allen here, none of us saw it coming. I wouldn’t have Harrison as a flip I’m strongly certain about but I think it’s possible too.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:10:05am

re: #315 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yep. Honestly when Webb beat Allen here, none of us saw it coming. I wouldn’t have Harrison as a flip I’m strongly certain about but I think it’s possible too.

Senator Doug Jones was never two points ahead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:10:33am

Above, someone wanted to wait until they had more solid confirmation about Trump leaving supporters in the snow and sub-freezing temperatures before they would believe it.

Hundreds of Trump supporters stuck on freezing cold Omaha airfield after rally, 7 taken to hospitals (NBC News)

Overall, 30 people were “contacted” for medical reasons, the Omaha police department said in a statement.

Hundreds of President Donald Trump’s supporters were left in the freezing cold for hours after a rally at an airfield in Omaha, Nebraska, on Tuesday night, with some walking around 3 miles to waiting buses and others being taken away in ambulances.

Seven people were taken to area hospitals, suffering from a variety of conditions, and there were a total of 30 “contacted” for medical reasons, the Omaha Police Department said in a statement. The Omaha Airport Authority had a slightly different figure of the number taken to hospitals — it said six were “throughout the duration of the event” and added that it could not confirm that the people were taken to hospitals because of the cold.

The temperature in the area was in the mid-30s at the time.

Many of those at the rally at the Eppley Airfield faced hours in long lines to get in and clogged parking lots and busy crowds to get out, hours after Air Force One departed around 9 p.m. The police said the last person was loaded onto a bus at the rally site at 11:50 p.m. — about three hours after the event had ended.

The police department said 25,000 people had been taken to the rally site by 40 buses running from 10:00 a.m. until the rally began at 8:00 p.m.

(more)

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:10:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:10:38am

He’s like the kid in high school who waits until 7 PM the night before to start writing a term paper that’s due the next day.

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John Hughes  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:11:04am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

But this:

Believers in Jesus Christ need to understand something important: the secular world forms a lot of its opinion of God based on how people who claim that they represent Christ behave.

Is just not true.

If I believed in the existence of a god I’d form my opinion of him on how he behaved — and I’d hate the lying bastard.

I don’t believe in a god, so I base my opinion of “christians” on how they behave. And, of course, in many cases that means I hate the lying bastards.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:11:23am

re: #316 Decatur Deb

Senator Doug Jones was never two points ahead.

Yep. Don’t underestimate the black ladies and props to Jaime too. He’s running an impressive campaign and is someone with a bright future ahead of him.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:11:29am

re: #306 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’ve heard stories about unsuspecting people nearby when a can of Surströmming is opened - makes a skunk smell positively pleasant, and has been known to clean out a room of people.

Irish People Try Surströmming (World’s Smelliest Food)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:13:08am

I think we’ve found a winner

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steve_davis  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:16:26am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Damn, she’s looking fine for almost 70! Wonder Woman indeed!

trivia point: they originally showed her clothes gradually disappearing as she spun and changed into the wonder woman garb, but decided that cost too much, so she got a cheap clothes change over like something out of Bewitched.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:18:50am

re: #320 John Hughes

But this:

Is just not true.

If I believed in the existence of a god I’d form my opinion of him on how he behaved — and I’d hate the lying bastard.

I don’t believe in a god, so I base my opinion of “christians” on how they behave. And, of course, in many cases that means I hate the lying bastards.

That is a common strawman of atheists by Christians, that they “reject God” because of the way some Christians behave.

Many Christians simply cannot accept that:

a) most atheists in the USA were Christians at one time
b) after actually examining what they believe or what they are taught and the claims of the Bible are unsubstantiated

therefore

c) They withhold belief pending further evidence.

All the framing from Christians “atheists just want to sin” “atheists hate God” “atheists worship the Devil” and the favourite in the Bible’s Psalms 14:1 “The fool in says in his heart ‘There is no God’ all are intended to insult atheists and misrepresent them to believers.

While Evangelicals are most vocal about it, that mindset permeates even the so-called moderates of the faith.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:18:56am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This sub-thread is kinda sad. They see it and know the ramifications. I feel bad for people of faith, real people of faith.

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Wish I could say the same thing because those “real people of faith” are mostly silent.

When someone like Rev. Barber or Bishop Swan speak up the CCCP slanders them as radical Communists.

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VegasGolfer  Oct 28, 2020 • 10:36:47am

re: #52 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Dodgers’ win will always have an asterisk after it in the books. This was not a real World Series, because the season was broken and the playoff games were cobbled together out of the ashes.

Total bullshit. Every team had to quarantine for the 60 games plus during the condensed playoff format. That only further shows that the best team won under the toughest of circumstances.


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