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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:45:33am
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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:45:38am

FT! GOTV and win so big they can’t hide it or deny it!

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:47:26am

BTW have the Dimwitted Duo of Wohl and Burkman been found in contempt of court yet?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:48:07am
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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:51:49am

re: #4 Dave In Austin

Just four?

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:53:51am

re: #3 🌹UOJB!

BTW have the Dimwitted Duo of Wohl and Burkman been found in contempt of court yet?

What’s happening now with the fucktard twins?

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:54:04am

re: #2 i(m)p(each)sos

FT! GOTV and win so big they can’t hide it or deny it!

Win big so scotus can’t touch it!

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:56:33am

re: #6 Dr. Matt

What’s happening now with the fucktard twins?

lawandcrime.com

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:56:42am

Religious school retreat led to coronavirus outbreak in Wisconsin

The coronavirus tore through a religious school retreat in Wisconsin over the summer, fueled by a lack of proper mitigation measures. Although nobody fell seriously ill, the scope of the outbreak — an exceptionally high 76 percent infection rate — suggests the intensity with which the airborne pathogen can proliferate in the absence of appropriate measures.

The outbreak is discussed in a new study published on Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC does not name the camp in question, describing it only as a “faith-based educational retreat for boys in grades 9-11” in Wisconsin.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:57:10am
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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:57:11am

re: #4 Dave In Austin

It’s a Trafalgar Group poll, which 538 grades out as a C- so probably not something to hang a hat on…

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:57:11am

re: #5 Belafon

Just four?

Gee, they forgot to add #5—Jesusland!

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b.d.  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:58:16am

re: #11 KGxvi

It’s a Trafalgar Group poll, which 538 grades out as a C- so probably not something to hang a hat on…

You go with the polls you have, not the polls you wish you had.

//

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:58:27am

re: #6 Dr. Matt

What’s happening now with the fucktard twins?

They’re supposed to have a conference with prosecutors and indicate their compliance email was sent. They were supposed to do this compliance email before today - to send an email to everyone they tried to dupe correcting all the nonsense they spewed.

Now they’re trying to claim that they need to find a different email service to do this and hardship nonsense.

If they don’t comply, the judge may well throw the book at ‘em (as he should - law and order and all).

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:58:40am

re: #3 🌹UOJB!

BTW have the Dimwitted Duo of Wohl and Burkman been found in contempt of court yet?

I suspect, with a criminal case still pending, the judge’s order that they essentially admit guilt of a crime is probably going to get tossed on appeal.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 10:58:54am

re: #516 Hecuba’s daughter

A FB FOAF described Trump as the “imperfect vessel” who he supports because he likes his policies. They may not like his personal immorality nor his grifting nor his bullying, but they do like his policies on a whole range of issues, both foreign and domestic. They don’t care about the personal behavior of an official, no matter how heinous or illegal, if the policies comport with their views.

Any excuse so they don’t have to say “I’m a racist.”

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:00:06am

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Any excuse so they don’t have to say “I’m a racist.”

Sure is amazing how The Cult Of The Fetus LOVES seeing them colored kids taken away from their parents and tossed in cages.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:00:08am

re: #15 KGxvi

Their lawyers don’t seem to grasp the seriousness of the issue, or any of the issues as it were. Burkman and Wohl will probably have a better defense on inadequate counsel than on the merits of the actual case at this point.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:01:13am

re: #18 lawhawk

Their lawyers don’t seem to grasp the seriousness of the issue, or any of the issues as it were. Burkman and Wohl will probably have a better defense on inadequate counsel than on the merits of the actual case at this point.

The “I have the worst fucking lawyers” defense.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:01:27am

re: #8 🌹UOJB!

re: #14 lawhawk

*Insert countless womp womp gifs*

I hope they spend election night in jail.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:02:01am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

The “I have the worst fucking lawyers” defense.

Maybe they should have gotten Chuck C’s shyster to defend them!

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:02:11am

Didn’t 538 end up kicking Trafalgar off the model in the last few weeks? I’d noticed they stopped showing up there. And their weighting is like Ras, except they ADMIT to it.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:03:42am
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:05:55am

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

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‘understand’ is the wrong word.

the right word is ‘care’

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:06:36am

Jail Cheeto and his accomplices. I don’t care if a hundred thousand of them are complicit, cage them all. Great though Lincoln was, there can be no “charity for all” this time. Seven generations of African-Americans have paid in blood and misery for that lesson. Bind up their wounds for once and let the traitors rot.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:06:56am

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

The Trumps don’t seem to understand CARE that their supporters are dying from the coronavirus

Dear Washington Post,

I fixed your headline for you.

XOXO

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:07:10am

re: #11 KGxvi

It’s a Trafalgar Group poll, which 538 grades out as a C- so probably not something to hang a hat on…

ok, how about these:

NBC News/Marist College:
NORTH CAROLINA: Biden 52%, Trump 46%

YouGov:
FLORIDA: Biden 48%, Trump 46%

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:09:47am

Who Wants to Die for Art?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:11:01am
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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:11:26am

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:11:40am

re: #25 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Jail Cheeto and his accomplices. I don’t care if a hundred thousand of them are complicit, cage them all. Great though Lincoln was, there can be no “charity for all” this time. Seven generations of African-Americans have paid in blood and misery for that lesson. Bind up their wounds for once and let the traitors rot.

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There are real pictures of kids imprisoned by the US government, why propagate a fake one?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:14:18am
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:14:53am

they are not gonna be able to put the ‘only votes on election day count’ genie back in the bottle

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:15:43am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:16:12am

Last month.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:16:23am

re: #9 Dr. Matt

Religious school retreat led to coronavirus outbreak in Wisconsin

My guess is it isn’t going to take long for someone to track down which place this is.

The CDC report on this assholishness:

COVID-19 Outbreak at an Overnight Summer School Retreat ― Wisconsin, July-August 2020

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:17:37am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Last month.

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Fauci: “Don’t make any plans through 2021.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:19:05am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I have no sympathy for Laura Ingraham, as part of the propaganda network which relentlessly pushed this. It is fitting that Trump turns on her, as conservatism always eats its own.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:19:29am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Last month.

*Checks calendar*

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:20:24am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:21:38am
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cat-tikvah  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:22:13am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My daughter’s wedding was two weeks ago. We had 36 guests total, reception was in a covered pavilion with open sides, people wore masks except when eating or drinking.

I didn’t even hug my almost-90 year old parents; I haven’t since March.

I missed that the most but we still had a joyful joyful day and minimized everyone’s risk.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:23:30am

re: #510 🌹UOJB!

Aw shit here come the Recall Newsom assholes setting up at the corner…with NO FUCKING MASKS ON…

You could set up near them playing “Yakety Sax” on endless repeat.

Or sign the petition with a bogus name and address.

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:24:52am

re: #42 cat-tikvah

My daughter’s wedding was two weeks ago. We had 36 guests total, reception was in a covered pavilion with open sides, people wore masks except when eating or drinking.

I didn’t even hug my almost-90 year old parents; I haven’t since March.

I missed that the most but we still had a joyful joyful day and minimized everyone’s risk.

Pondering fully-masked wedding.
“You may nuzzle the bride.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:25:24am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

The same as the UK’s Conservative Party: Letting the virus rip through the population was deliberate.

The same here. It requires no special planning, no experts, no intelligence. Denigrate “elites” as conservatives have done as long as conservatism has existed, and that’s all you need to do.

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mmmirele  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:25:38am

We have similar scolds here in the USA who don’t want the poor to actually enjoy their food. It has to be cheap, bland, tedious and demonstrate that the poor are suffering. This is about the British Tories.

Every time child poverty enters the news cycle, social media feeds are swept up in po-faced scold-recipes for frugal, joyless struggle meals, each complete with a smug price breakdown. A slew of half-raw eggs, boiled chicken and grey potatoes are offered up as exhibits in an ongoing moral case against the working class. To prove once and for all that hunger is a symptom of household mismanagement, profligacy and stupidity - and that they therefore deserve the punishments of poverty.

Recently, Annunziata Rees-Mogg took a moment out of her busy schedule of managing her family mansion and hefty stock portfolio to chide an unspecified public for eating ready-made oven chips rather than the marginally cheaper option of raw potatoes. Her implicit message - that choosing the latter is a symptom of laziness, stupidity or both - telegraphs the idea that the struggles of poverty are a choice continually taken by feckless plebs who waste their money on fags and football tickets. Why should we (and the “we” here is important) indulge such irresponsible behaviour? it asks. Why should the state pick up the tab for individual moral laxity?

More at the link.

novaramedia.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:25:47am

re: #44 NetworkKed

The ring is kept in a bleach solution until the last minute.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:25:53am
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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:26:27am

re: #33 dangerman

they are not gonna be able to put the ‘only votes on election day count’ genie back in the bottle

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And I’ve been wondering for a while just how many mailed-in ballots there are going to be. Maybe from very rural areas (which, by the way, tend to skew red), but everyone who can vote in person seems to be doing it, probably scared off by USPS tampering.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:26:30am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Laura made her bed with Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:26:39am

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

Analysis: The Trumps don’t seem to understand that their supporters are dying from the coronavirus

Just like they fail to understand that there are still lots of Republicans living in NY, CA and IL…

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:26:57am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

“Everybody dies. Get over it.”
My money is on he never had CV19. It was a ruse. A con. A lie. And I know nobody can see him doing that.
So now you enter into territory involving Commander In Chief, and what he can make those under him in that chain do/lie/hide.
So think of the hundreds, if not more, people who had to sign onto this for it to fly.
He’s destroyed the integrity of thousands and will bring us down if allowed.
If he is allowed to somehow win this, it will not be pretty, and it will be televised.
Because everywhere will be burning. Maybe right outside your window.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:27:18am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Thing is, this is the kind of guy where what he’s actually saying is “I’m going to make sure this happens.”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:27:29am
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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:27:41am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Last month.

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And here we are, at the end of October. Where are the doses?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:27:49am

Rounding the corner to the edge of the cliff maybe…

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:28:16am

re: #55 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

And here we are, at the end of October. Where are the doses?

Soros is hoarding them at the FEMA camps.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:28:18am

Another Panhandle school district has defied the governor’s orders against requiring masks in any place which provides government services, as Harrison Public School (Sioux County, pop 1,311, the northwest corner of the Panhandle) has now gone to mandatory masks for all students and staff.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:29:12am

re: #53 The Ghost of a Flea

What the fuck am I saying?

He’s literally making it happen right now.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:29:27am

re: #55 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

And here we are, at the end of October. Where are the doses?

Happy October Surprise!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:29:27am

re: #44 NetworkKed

Pondering fully-masked wedding.
“You may nuzzle the bride.”

“I now pronounce y’all a bubble..”

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:29:50am
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:30:03am

re: #41 Dread Pirate Ron

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Chuck U is stupid enough to do that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:30:08am

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

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Rounding the corner to the edge of the cliff maybe…

Fuck you Donald, Ronna, & Roma in no particular order.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:30:38am

When you piss off welders, you’re losing.

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:31:00am

a welding mask? at night?

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:31:40am

re: #66 NetworkKed

A lost Blues Brother.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:32:09am

re: #66 NetworkKed

a welding mask? at night?

Early Halloween party.

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:33:03am

I see Politico is in full “both sides” mode. Yesterday was a “Are the shy Trump voters going to fool the pollsters YET AGAIN????” article. Today it’s “Trump needs a miracle to win.”

I realize it’s FUD, but I have to admit, it does make me pause. Last election, I was really worried Trump could somehow win, but then on the night before, I kinda zenned out and was like, “Nah, it’ll be close, but HRC will be fine.” History, of course, decided to be an asshole the next day.

Here’s my understanding about the shy Trump idiocy: the polls at the time were actually more “Ya know, he has a real shot at this”, and the shy Trump voter was waaaaay overblown.

Do I have that right?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:33:36am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:33:44am

re: #49 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

And I’ve been wondering for a while just how many mailed-in ballots there are going to be. Maybe from very rural areas (which, by the way, tend to skew red), but everyone who can vote in person seems to be doing it, probably scared off by USPS tampering.

This very rural voter drove our ballots sixteen miles into the county seat.

Because of the way the delivery routes from the sorting centers are in the Panhandle, for me to mail a letter from Broadwater to Bridgeport requires this route. Broadwater is at the end of the delivery route which comes from North Platte up US-26. The truck arrives in the morning, sits all day here, then returns, picking up mail along the way.

Bridgeport is at the end of the route going east down US-26 from Scottsbluff, and they are last on their route.

So a letter from here to Bridgeport actually takes the route Broadwater-North Platte-Denver-Scottsbluff-Bridgeport. (That was before DeJoy’s fuquery, the route hasn’t changed though the mail has slowed.)

Or, I can drop off ballots when we go to town for other stuff, which we did.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:33:47am

re: #69 Mattand

Is any Trump voter still shy about it?

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:34:55am
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Mike Lamb  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:35:05am

Random thought I had: was Trump contracting COVID the absolute worst thing that could have happened? He clearly feels bulletproof, and the Admin has abandoned all pretenses of trying to control the virus. As a result, we are going to hit numbers never dreamt of in terms of daily positives and the like. Maybe deaths don’t hit the April peaks and the death rate is lower, but 2k dead/day seems like a foregone conclusion, with nothing done to stem the tide (at the federal level at least) until (dog willing) Biden is inaugurated.

The whole thing is like Trump’s response to the Senate not voting to convict.

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:35:34am

re: #67 jaunte

A lost Blues Brother.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:36:10am

Did this make the rounds? Asshole from Idaho…

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:36:20am

re: #66 NetworkKed
First thought. But there is varying degrees of darkness in lenses. Could have had the lens visor up. Or he just has really good vision, or he was dropped off or he is an alien lifeform.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:37:56am

re: #55 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

And here we are, at the end of October. Where are the doses?

Who needs vaccines when John MacArthur and his fellow Pulpit Pimps tell their marks that Jay-Zuss will shield them from the Satan Bug?

And we’re not talking about that hokey movie with George Maharis…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:38:36am

re: #74 Mike Lamb

Random thought I had: was Trump contracting COVID the absolute worst thing that could have happened? He clearly feels bulletproof, and the Admin has abandoned all pretenses of trying to control the virus. As a result, we are going to hit numbers never dreamt of in terms of daily positives and the like. Maybe deaths don’t hit the April peaks and the death rate is lower, but 2k dead/day seems like a foregone conclusion, with nothing done to stem the tide (at the federal level at least) until (dog willing) Biden is inaugurated.

The whole thing is like Trump’s response to the Senate not voting to convict.

America low key stans eugenics, and Trump is absolutely believes he’s a better kind of person who shouldn’t care about lesser kinds of people.

Trump getting a mild case and getting effective treatment has just boosted that sense that the disease is inevitable and people that die just need to die.

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:38:42am

re: #69 Mattand

Here’s my understanding about the shy Trump idiocy: the polls at the time were actually more “Ya know, he has a real shot at this”, and the shy Trump voter was waaaaay overblown.

Do I have that right?

The national polls were actually REALLY GOOD.

The state polls were not balanced right, but if you go back and look you see they were really squishy in the post-Comey mess. “shy Trump voter” simply did not exist.

I spent the Sunday before the election writing a post at GOS about how the polls were better than Nate was claiming. I was so embarrassed that I never posted there again. But it took me a lot of arguing to make that case. This year, the only polls that look bad are the grossly biased ones. FL is getting close, but PA really is not. And what looks to be happening in turnout argues for polls to be undercounting Dems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:39:21am

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Did this make the rounds? Asshole from Idaho…

that is actually an astute and subtle dig at why mail-in voting is “unamerican”…

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:39:50am

Now this asshole chimes in…

COME AGAIN? Jeanine Pirro: Trump brought back saying ‘Merry Christmas’ so I ‘stare people down’ when saying it

deadstate.org

Really makes me want to say Bah Fucking Humbug

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:40:54am

re: #82 🌹UOJB!

Now this asshole chimes in…

COME AGAIN? Jeanine Pirro: Trump brought back saying ‘Merry Christmas’ so I ‘stare people down’ when saying it

deadstate.org

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She can say Merry Christmas to Trump when they’re both in Hell.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:41:36am

re: #41 Dread Pirate Ron

(0:32)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:42:22am

re: #80 NetworkKed

The national polls were actually REALLY GOOD.

The state polls were not balanced right, but if you go back and look you see they were really squishy in the post-Comey mess. “shy Trump voter” simply did not exist.

I spent the Sunday before the election writing a post at GOS about how the polls were better than Nate was claiming. I was so embarrassed that I never posted there again. But it took me a lot of arguing to make that case. This year, the only polls that look bad are the grossly biased ones. FL is getting close, but PA really is not. And what looks to be happening in turnout argues for polls to be undercounting Dems.

The district polls were a clue last time too.

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:44:14am

Chucky was actually something of a breath of fresh air back when he started, but he got promoted way past his ability.

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:44:47am

re: #80 NetworkKed

The national polls were actually REALLY GOOD.

The state polls were not balanced right, but if you go back and look you see they were really squishy in the post-Comey mess. “shy Trump voter” simply did not exist.

I spent the Sunday before the election writing a post at GOS about how the polls were better than Nate was claiming. I was so embarrassed that I never posted there again. But it took me a lot of arguing to make that case. This year, the only polls that look bad are the grossly biased ones. FL is getting close, but PA really is not. And what looks to be happening in turnout argues for polls to be undercounting Dems.

Appreciate that. Like I said, Politico needs their Magic Balance Fairy fix, so grain of salt and what not.

I can sort of vouch for the PA stuff. One of Philly’s western counties, Montgomery, tends to lean GOP and they seem to have buyer’s remorse. I’m not sure about Bucks County, which is north of the city. It’s pretty MAGAty and I don’t see that changing, but who knows?

EDIT: ignore that last paragraph, as it’s me not knowing what I’m talking about.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:45:17am
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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:45:32am

re: #62 jaunte

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Trump’s so bad even Michael Myers voted. He wore a welder’s mask to hide his face.

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:45:47am

re: #42 cat-tikvah

My daughter’s wedding was two weeks ago. We had 36 guests total, reception was in a covered pavilion with open sides, people wore masks except when eating or drinking.

I didn’t even hug my almost-90 year old parents; I haven’t since March.

I missed that the most but we still had a joyful joyful day and minimized everyone’s risk.

My niece’s wedding was originally supposed to be in early May; hundreds of guests, synagogue and rabbi, country club reception, catered dinner, live band, video crew etc.

Instead… late March, at my brother’s house. 6 people present; other niece officiated with an on-line ULC ordination. The catered dinner, that they’d already paid for, became boxed meals given to a food bank for distribution. The band and video crew could keep their deposit if they if they spent the day delivering food bank boxes to the elderly.

We’ll have a proper reception when this is all over.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:46:00am

re: #82 🌹UOJB!

Now this asshole chimes in…

COME AGAIN? Jeanine Pirro: Trump brought back saying ‘Merry Christmas’ so I ‘stare people down’ when saying it

deadstate.org

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Really makes me want to say Bah Fucking Humbug

Merry fucking Christmas more than 2 months out from the holiday?

Really?

I’ve been seeing Costco selling Christmas related stuff since Labor Day. They were already on Christmas alongside Halloween and Labor Day clearance.

Christmas never went away. If anything, these pulpit pimps and grifters have made Christmas year round.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:46:17am

re: #42 cat-tikvah

My daughter’s wedding was two weeks ago. We had 36 guests total, reception was in a covered pavilion with open sides, people wore masks except when eating or drinking.

I didn’t even hug my almost-90 year old parents; I haven’t since March.

I missed that the most but we still had a joyful joyful day and minimized everyone’s risk.

as you all know,
- dangermom (my mom) lives 8 miles from us. she’s 92
- mrsdm is extremely high risk due to her lung condition and surgery a couple of years back. doc says she should be following the rules with zero tolerance, after all it’s a respiratory infection.

except for me driving her to a doctor now and again, mom never goes out. she’s got real good at watching zoom lectures.

i go over to mom’s every wednesday with groceries
mrsdm and i bring take out every sunday (cause we’re toast after ponding all day)

we never touch mom. we dont wear masks

we do eat at a small-ish kitchen table.

we think we’ve created a fairly good operational ‘pod’ of the three of us.
sure anything could happen. we’re very careful at home and ‘assume’ the protocols we’ve been following (and what we have not been doing) has been working.

mrsdm’s parents (also 92 and 93) live in NJ.
we’ve missed both their birthdays, a wedding last week that they were at, and there won’t be our annual pilgrimage to NJ and Massachusetts this holiday season.
i’ve gone over lots of scenarios on how to get her safely to NJ and back. - driving, renting an RV, flying, whatever.

there is no way that doesnt significantly risk getting mrsdm infected, or infecting her parents, or bringing something back and infecting dangermom.

as much as it hurts, it’s just not worth it.
‘doing nothing’ is not easy.
it is best.

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:47:37am

re: #86 NetworkKed

Chucky was actually something of a breath of fresh air back when he started, but he got promoted way past his ability.

Said it before, will say it again: he’s the political journalism equivalent of the kid eating paste in the far corner of the classroom.

He’s so far up the Magic Balance Fairy’s ass that his entire run on Meet The Press feels like one multi-year audition tape to be the new Alan Colmes for Fox.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:47:50am

re: #80 NetworkKed

The national polls were actually REALLY GOOD.

Yup. Every reputable national poll indicated HRC would win by several percentage points. That happened.

Very late in the election cycle, Nate Silver did publish an article explaining how HRC may win the popular vote and lose the electoral college. I think he published that just a couple days before the election (maybe the day before).

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:48:46am

re: #92 dangerman

as you all know,
- dangermom (my mom) lives 8 miles from us. she’s 92
- mrsdm is extremely high risk due to her lung condition and surgery a couple of years back. doc says she should be following the rules with zero tolerance, after all it’s a respiratory infection.

except for me driving her to a doctor now and again, mom never goes out. she’s got real good at watching zoom lectures.

i go over to mom’s every wednesday with groceries
mrsdm and i bring take out every sunday (cause we’re toast after ponding all day)

we never touch mom. we dont wear masks

we do eat at a small-ish kitchen table.

we think we’ve created a fairly good operational ‘pod’ of the three of us.
sure anything could happen. we’re very careful at home and ‘assume’ the protocols we’ve been following (and what we have not been doing) has been working.

mrsdm’s parents (also 92 and 93) live in NJ.
we’ve missed both their birthdays, a wedding last week that they were at, and there won’t be our annual pilgrimage to NJ and Massachusetts this holiday season.
i’ve gone over lots of scenarios on how to get her safely to NJ and back. - driving, renting an RV, flying, whatever.

there is no way that doesnt significantly risk getting mrsdm infected, or infecting her parents, or bringing something back and infecting dangermom.

as much as it hurts, it’s just not worth it.
‘doing nothing’ is not easy.
it is best.

Hang in there. That’s rough.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:48:48am

re: #87 Mattand

Appreciate that. Like I said, Politico needs their Magic Balance Fairy fix, so grain of salt and what not.

I can sort of vouch for the PA stuff. One of Philly’s western counties, Montgomery, tends to lean GOP and they seem have buyer’s remorse. I’m not sure about Bucks County, which is north of the city. It’s pretty MAGAty and I don’t see that changing, but who knows?

Uhhhh…. Montgomery went 59-38 Clinton in 2016. The only two counties that were bluer were Delaware and Philly itself. And even Bucks tipped just barely blue (by a fraction of a percentage point) that year.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:48:59am

re: #91 lawhawk

Merry fucking Christmas more than 2 months out from the holiday?

Really?

I’ve been seeing Costco selling Christmas related stuff since Labor Day. They were already on Christmas alongside Halloween and Labor Day clearance.

Christmas never went away. If anything, these pulpit pimps and grifters have made Christmas year round.

That’s nothing. Trump’s done the Merry Christmas bit in July.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:49:20am

re: #89 Belafon

The bad interpretation of that guy wearing his welder’s mask is that was the safest way to be photographed for publication if he works around a bunch of Trump supporters who are just fine with voter suppression.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:49:56am

re: #96 i(m)p(each)sos

Uhhhh…. Montgomery went 59-38 Clinton in 2016. The only two counties that were bluer were Delaware and Philly itself. And even Bucks tipped just barely blue (by a fraction of a percentage point) that year.

If anyone can run up the score in the Philly metro, it’s Joe.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:50:09am

re: #46 mmmirele

We have similar scolds here in the USA who don’t want the poor to actually enjoy their food. It has to be cheap, bland, tedious and demonstrate that the poor are suffering. This is about the British Tories.

More at the link.

novaramedia.com

you mean like jared the other day?

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:50:43am

re: #96 i(m)p(each)sos

Uhhhh…. Montgomery went 59-38 Clinton in 2016. The only two counties that were bluer were Delaware and Philly itself. And even Bucks tipped just barely blue (by a fraction of a percentage point) that year.

Urghh. It’s apparently who I know in PA. Sorry about that.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:50:57am

deleted, wrong tweet

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:50:58am

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cat-tikvah  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:52:17am

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Actually they could have taken the masks off….just kidding around here.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:52:45am

Lre: #102 Dread Pirate Ron

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Related but the Scots didn’t fall for Brexit but the English and Welsh did. Wonder how Northern Ireland is doing.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:52:51am

re: #99 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If anyone can run up the score in the Philly metro, it’s Joe.

And I expect he will! There was a Billy Penn article I posted here yesterday about how massive the voter registration surge in Philly has been this year. Over 1.1 million registered voters, which is past the 90% mark of ALL ELIGIBLE VOTERS - and compare that to just over 700,000 votes out of Philly in 2016.

In a city that goes 90% Democratic, that could be a wave of several hundred thousand more Democratic votes this year. And remember Trump only took PA by about 70,000 votes four years ago.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:53:06am
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sagehen  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:53:09am

re: #48 Charles Johnson

“There will be school. No graduations. No weddings, no Thanksgiving. No Christmas. No Fourth of July.

So… just like this year?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:53:46am

re: #105 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

L

Related but the Scots didn’t fall for Brexit but the English and Welsh did. Wonder how Northern Ireland is doing.

sorry, that was a second post of that tweet. I wanted this one..

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:54:09am

And, yes, I know that a camel can’t really eat a child.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:54:36am

re: #49 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

And I’ve been wondering for a while just how many mailed-in ballots there are going to be. Maybe from very rural areas (which, by the way, tend to skew red), but everyone who can vote in person seems to be doing it, probably scared off by USPS tampering.

we ordered up the mail in ballots
then considered in person / early - it might be safe enough for me and mrs dm.
but not mom

then i realized florida counts when received so we figured we’d drop them at the SOE and monitor the web site. if there’s a problem we’d still have early voting.

results were posted in one day.
i remain cautiously optimistic
the champagne is on ice and at the ready

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:56:04am

re: #52 nines09

“Everybody dies. Get over it.”
My money is on he never had CV19. It was a ruse. A con. A lie. And I know nobody can see him doing that.
So now you enter into territory involving Commander In Chief, and what he can make those under him in that chain do/lie/hide.
So think of the hundreds, if not more, people who had to sign onto this for it to fly.
He’s destroyed the integrity of thousands and will bring us down if allowed.
If he is allowed to somehow win this, it will not be pretty, and it will be televised.
Because everywhere will be burning. Maybe right outside your window.

i personally dont see all the doctors and nurses signing on for this and keeping mum.

that we have to even consider it as a real possibility though….wow

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 11:58:40am

re: #69 Mattand

I see Politico is in full “both sides” mode. Yesterday was a “Are the shy Trump voters going to fool the pollsters YET AGAIN????” article. Today it’s “Trump needs a miracle to win.”

I realize it’s FUD, but I have to admit, it does make me pause. Last election, I was really worried Trump could somehow win, but then on the night before, I kinda zenned out and was like, “Nah, it’ll be close, but HRC will be fine.” History, of course, decided to be an asshole the next day.

Here’s my understanding about the shy Trump idiocy: the polls at the time were actually more “Ya know, he has a real shot at this”, and the shy Trump voter was waaaaay overblown.

Do I have that right?

go here

Again, anything is possible. But from where we sit, it takes an awful lot of bending and twisting to try to make the data conform with the existence of all these alleged shy Trump voters

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:00:09pm

re: #106 i(m)p(each)sos

And I expect he will! There was a Billy Penn article I posted here yesterday about how massive the voter registration surge in Philly has been this year. Over 1.1 million registered voters, which is past the 90% mark of ALL ELIGIBLE VOTERS - and compare that to just over 700,000 votes out of Philly in 2016.

In a city that goes 90% Democratic, that could be a wave of several hundred thousand more Democratic votes this year. And remember Trump only took PA by about 70,000 votes four years ago.

Wow so Philly alone could be the margin of victory.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:00:13pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:00:29pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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And, yes, I know that a camel can’t really eat a child.

c) get your smaller child for the donkey

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:02:06pm

This might be fun with marijuana edibles…….

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:02:10pm

re: #106 i(m)p(each)sos

And I expect he will! There was a Billy Penn article I posted here yesterday about how massive the voter registration surge in Philly has been this year. Over 1.1 million registered voters, which is past the 90% mark of ALL ELIGIBLE VOTERS - and compare that to just over 700,000 votes out of Philly in 2016.

In a city that goes 90% Democratic, that could be a wave of several hundred thousand more Democratic votes this year. And remember Trump only took PA by about 70,000 votes four years ago.

I’ve been spending a lot of time staring at PA election results from 2016, and the longer and harder I stare at them, the more I realize just what a fluke it was that Trump pulled out an EC win at all.

A smidge more turnout in Philadelphia and Clinton would have won the state.

Less active third-party candidates (Johnson got 146,715 votes, Stein got 49,941, and Trump won by 44,292 votes) and Clinton might well have won the state.

It was the narrowest possible way Trump could have squeaked in, and then he somehow ran the table and did it the same way in Michigan and Wisconsin.

The factors are so different this year. I have a lot of confidence that Trump cannot repeat what he did in 2016.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:02:23pm

re: #112 dangerman

Under close care, his stooges can keep it under wraps. His presidential ward is private and secure. One nurse could tend to needs. Now the doctors are the ones who would be in charge of the paperwork and what is entered.
Think.
He’s running non stop. He’s telling people CV19 ain’t nothing. He beat it.
He never had it.
Glorious leader beats virus that killed thousands and YOU CAN TOO!
I can see it.
Set up.
Another act, a play, a lie.

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:02:42pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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And, yes, I know that a camel can’t really eat a child.

…maybe not eat, but I’d be worried about breaking that kid’s neck. Good god.

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Nyet  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:03:09pm

Authoritarian jerk-off using Stalinist language.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:03:37pm
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:04:11pm

Just posted this, after reading a deep dive on what the next decade is likely to be like:
Are Trump Supporters Committing Mass Suicide At His Rallies? Why?

Not wearing a mask at this point in the pandemic is pure oppositional defiance disorder, carried to the point of suicidal petulance.

The 40-year run of ignorant white yahoos getting their way in national politics is hitting a brick wall. It’s impossible to deny any longer that there is NO RATIONAL GOVERNING PHILOSOPHY at the heart of the modern GOP other than the “Suck it, libtard!” screech of outrage fed to them by Hate Radio and Fox.

What will the reaction be? Will Trump’s people take to the streets in a national orgy of mass murder if/when he loses?

Or will there be a few isolated violent incidents, a lot of noise, and then a huge uptick in suicide, deaths by alcohol/opioids and domestic violence in rural areas?

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:04:15pm

re: #114 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Wow so Philly alone could be the margin of victory.

And then some!

For all the focus on the Cletus Safari counties and the fracking towns, their total vote counts are just a fraction of what Philly can deliver if turnout there is as high as it looks like it will be. It’s California and NY vs. Wyoming and North Dakota, writ in miniature.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:04:18pm

re: #119 nines09

Under close care, his stooges can keep it under wraps. His presidential ward is private and secure. One nurse could tend to needs. Now the doctors are the ones who would be in charge of the paperwork and what is entered.
Think.
He’s running non stop. He’s telling people CV19 ain’t nothing. He beat it.
He never had it.
Glorious leader beats virus that killed thousands and YOU CAN TOO!
I can see it.
Set up.
Another act, a play, a lie.

HIPAA could play a necessary role. It’s double-edged.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:04:47pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

We will see.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:05:08pm

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:05:13pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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NBC really needs to can Chuck U. Replace him with Joy. Replace him with Nicole. Replace him with Rachel. Hell, Replace him with even with this guy!

Mister Ed 1961 - 1966 Opening and Closing Theme (With Snippet)

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:05:58pm

re: #106 i(m)p(each)sos

And I expect he will! There was a Billy Penn article I posted here yesterday about how massive the voter registration surge in Philly has been this year. Over 1.1 million registered voters, which is past the 90% mark of ALL ELIGIBLE VOTERS - and compare that to just over 700,000 votes out of Philly in 2016.

In a city that goes 90% Democratic, that could be a wave of several hundred thousand more Democratic votes this year. And remember Trump only took PA by about 70,000 votes four years ago.

That’s insane. There’s 1.5 million people in Philly. I hadn’t heard those numbers before.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:06:05pm

Consider the contrast:

Doctors are bad and liars because they theoretically could profit from covid-related assistance.

Everyone else who stand to profit from opening the economy and just ignoring disease casualties is somehow not bad…especially not the billionaire class that risks nothing but disproportionately profits.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:06:57pm

I found these paragraphs compelling:

If racial and cultural moderates abandon the GOP, the voters left in the party will tilt even further toward Trump’s message of racial and cultural resentment. “The Republican Party is going to continue to shrink and become more monolithic and less relevant and more regionalized,” Madrid, the Lincoln Project co-founder, told me. “They believe they are the last stand for America and [that] America is the white Christian nation. They believe they are what America is. And that kind of identity gets stronger as it loses—it becomes more self-righteous as it loses.”

The inexorable change coming to the Democratic Party could make the GOP even more reactionary. Biden has defined himself as a “transitional” figure, and demands are already building for a Democratic leadership corps that reflects the party’s increasing reliance on young people and people of color. It’s not hard to imagine that by 2024, Democrats will be led by presidential nominee Kamala Harris, who is of Jamaican and Indian descent; vice-presidential nominee Pete Buttigieg, an openly gay man; and House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, who would be the first Black person to hold that post. Much like Obama did in 2008, such a roster would symbolize a changing America in a way that inspires the coalition of transformation—but terrifies many in the coalition of restoration. “It would touch on everything that a lot of Trump supporters were reacting to when they supported him in 2016—this sense of feeling threatened by the [challenge] to white supremacy in the U.S,” Schaffner told me.

Smug hatred. Ignorance brandished as a weapon. Malice disguising itself as a governing philosophy.
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:08:58pm

re: #95 Mattand

Hang in there. That’s rough.

i felt, and feel, a lot of guilt because i have my mom and mrsdm doesnt have hers (or her dad)
we talked about it and i said i was sorry
she said i was an idiot (nicely and with a smile)
but she understood why it bothers me

i havent seen my brother’s family in a year or more - philadelphia
and my niece is coming for a visit from israel after 2 years. we wont see her either.
it’ll all be by zoom
my sister was able do drive down here more or less nonstop from north carolina - no overnight. - immediate laundry, shower etc - so we figured she was safe enough. stayed 2 weeks. that was good for mom.

it’s tough.
we cope

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:09:41pm
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:10:12pm

I’m seeing the difference here in the Midwest.

Blue counties - ie Cook in Illinois, Dane in Wisconsin - people are wearing masks in stores, bars are not crammed, folks seem to be careful even in parking lots.

Rural areas: bars are full of maskless rednecks shouting defiance at the TV. Parking lots are shouting war zones at Walmart.

The effects are being felt:

Think of it as evolution in action.
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:10:25pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:11:11pm

re: #129 Mattand

That’s insane. There’s 1.5 million people in Philly. I hadn’t heard those numbers before.

I know, RIGHT? :)

And I forgot to repost the link. The numbers are indeed insane, if they translate from registered voters to actual votes that get counted.

billypenn.com

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:12:03pm

re: #132 dangerman

i felt, and feel, a lot of guilt because i have my mom and mrsdm doesnt have hers (or her dad)
we talked about it and i said i was soory
she said i was an idiot (nicely and with a smile)
but she understood why it bothers me

i havent seen my brother’s family in a year or more - philadelphia
and my niece is coming for a visit from israel after 2 years. we wont see her either.
it’ll all be by zoom
my sister was able do drive down here more or less nonstop from north carolina - no overnight. - immediate laundry, shower etc - so we figured she was safe enough. stayed 2 weeks. that was good for mom.

it’s tough.
we cope

There’s a young family a few yards down from us that have had at least three parties, teeming with elementary school-age kids, since the pandemic began. Fucking pisses me off to no end.

We’re doing our damnedest to not spread this thing and when you see people doing that shit? Ugh.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:13:08pm

He appears to be tweeting roughly every 30 seconds today.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:13:32pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

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imagine not understanding that fossil fuels are NOT ‘the entire U.S Energy Industry’

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:15:00pm

re: #118 i(m)p(each)sos

I’ve been spending a lot of time staring at PA election results from 2016, and the longer and harder I stare at them, the more I realize just what a fluke it was that Trump pulled out an EC win at all.

A smidge more turnout in Philadelphia and Clinton would have won the state.

Less active third-party candidates (Johnson got 146,715 votes, Stein got 49,941, and Trump won by 44,292 votes) and Clinton might well have won the state.

It was the narrowest possible way Trump could have squeaked in, and then he somehow ran the table and did it the same way in Michigan and Wisconsin.

The factors are so different this year. I have a lot of confidence that Trump cannot repeat what he did in 2016.

a lot of people are recognizing this from last time and are determined to not let it happen again.

your vote, every vote, does matter

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:18:18pm

Rep. Don Bacon certainly won’t. He’s a conservative first and the representative for NE-2 second.

To Rep. Bacon’s grudging credit, he did do this.

DHS does not work for the people, they work for Donald Trump. The letter is useless, because conservatives want to deport anyone who wasn’t born here, including foreign medical workers.

The genocide is deliberate. Perhaps Bacon’s opponent Kara Eastman could address this on her Twitter account, but I’m not on Twitter so I can’t reach her that way.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:19:18pm

Memories of the 1948 election from Grandma Bacon.

They were at the County Democratic Party HQ waiting for the vote counts to come in. Had the radio on Union people BOOED when they projected Dewey the winner.

CBS commentator Kaltenborn said Dewey would give his victory speech at 9PM.

Didn’t happen. Truman surge outside of the East and Deep South.

Kaltenborn kept saying “When The Country Vote Comes In, Dewey would win handily”. The hall broke out in laughter.

Ohio was declared for Truman at midnight, the hall cheered. 3AM California was called for Truman and the beer kegs were set up.

Kaltenborn still insisting that the country vote would turn the tide for Dewey at 6AM the next morning…

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:20:59pm

re: #134 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

I’m seeing the difference here in the Midwest.

Blue counties - ie Cook in Illinois, Dane in Wisconsin - people are wearing masks in stores, bars are not crammed, folks seem to be careful even in parking lots.

Rural areas: bars are full of maskless rednecks shouting defiance at the TV. Parking lots are shouting war zones at Walmart.

The effects are being felt:

[Embedded content]think of it as evolution in action

when i was actively teaching scuba and people just would not listen to what could easily happen to them and ruin their day, we used to say ‘natural selection is a slow process’

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retired cynic  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:24:01pm
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Teukka  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:24:55pm
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Teukka  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:25:22pm

re: #145 Teukka

Fresh from the feeds, part deux:

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:25:37pm

re: #137 Mattand

There’s a young family a few yards down from us that have had at least three parties, teeming with elementary school-age kids, since the pandemic began. Fucking pisses me off to no end.

We’re doing our damnedest to not spread this thing and when you see people doing that shit? Ugh.

yes and that’s the stunningly idiotic national response posture
- very early on i had hope
- ‘the government’ would be on top of this - the cdc, nih, WHO etc would do what they do
- a worldwide common pull toward a solution
- yeah it would be tough for a while but we’d all work together and keep it in check
- then a vaccine would come along in a year or so (from last march/april) and we could ease up

it’s all been wasted
all this time, all this knowledge
now this instead is going to be the new normal for quite some time.
i’m not thrilled. i’ve adjusted my thinking.

but gah. how we could have beat this so much more quickly.
otoh, then we might be looking at a trump reelection, so…

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:26:41pm
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calochortus  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:27:25pm

Enjoyed getting out and taking a walk earlier. Did wonders for my mental state. Amusingly the story on NPR while I drove to my walking place of choice had a piece on election anxiety.
One item mentioned was the fact that people’s coping skills are better than we think because we descend from people who underestimate their skills rather than overestimate them. The people who just know they can jump that gap, or whatever, didn’t leave as many descendants.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:27:39pm

re: #146 Teukka

Fresh from the feeds, part deux:

[Embedded content]

Seven.

Been there, done that. Seven.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:28:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:29:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:29:51pm

re: #50 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Laura made her bed with Trump.

After she made it with Dinesh D’Felon.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:29:55pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Fuckin’ A

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:30:28pm

Well, this is an interesting development.

Looks like all of iHeart Radio’s local station websites got hacked this afternoon.

Here’s what it looks like if you go to WBZ in Boston, for instance… or KFI in LA, WOR in NY, WLW in Chicago, WHO in Des Moines…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:31:13pm

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like they fail to understand that there are still lots of Republicans living in NY, CA and IL…

They don’t care. As long as the electoral college exists, Republican voters in those states do not matter for grasping and expanding power. If every one of them died, they would lose a couple US House seats.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:31:16pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:31:36pm

according to The Hill, mitch says nope, not so fast:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) says he expects Congress to move another coronavirus relief package “right at the beginning” of 2021,

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:32:23pm
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Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:33:07pm

re: #74 Mike Lamb

Random thought I had: was Trump contracting COVID the absolute worst thing that could have happened? He clearly feels bulletproof, and the Admin has abandoned all pretenses of trying to control the virus. As a result, we are going to hit numbers never dreamt of in terms of daily positives and the like. Maybe deaths don’t hit the April peaks and the death rate is lower, but 2k dead/day seems like a foregone conclusion, with nothing done to stem the tide (at the federal level at least) until (dog willing) Biden is inaugurated.

The whole thing is like Trump’s response to the Senate not voting to convict.

Another random thought: one (I.e., me) has to wonder if Trump’s relatively mild case of COVID was due to some sort of prophylactic treatment regimen (?? Convalescent plasma??) he had (has) been receiving? IOW, some sort of preventative treatment unavailable to the public/plebes, but kept under wraps because The Orange Anus wanted to maintain his image as “COVID-proof Superman”…?

PS: been following this thread,and commenting, on my iPad, without (for a change) any problems.
Maybe it IS an issue with number-of-comments?

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Teukka  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:33:49pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

Seven.

Been there, done that. Seven.

O.O
Not gonna ask…

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:34:19pm

re: #148 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Sorry, man: they all look like Murder Hornets to me….

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:34:27pm

re: #155 i(m)p(each)sos

Well, this is an interesting development.

Looks like all of iHeart Radio’s local station websites got hacked this afternoon.

Here’s what it looks like if you go to WBZ in Boston, for instance… or KFI in LA, WOR in NY, WLW in Chicago, WHO in Des Moines…

[Embedded content]

Oh, and also rush limbaugh dot com.

Hee hee.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:34:29pm

re: #54 Dave In Austin

#UnwantedIvanka

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:34:34pm

re: #158 dangerman

Early 2021 - after Democrats have retaken the Senate and the WH.

McConnell is fixated on packing the courts. He has no time to help the nation deal with the pandemic or Trump’s failures.

Trump is clueless and his lies are even more hollow when they don’t even pass the smell test. There’s no reason anyone should believe he’d pass a relief bill after the election. Why not pass one before when it mattered?

Because there’s no way the GOP controlled Senate passes anything - the same scenario we’ve had since May.

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jeffreyw  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:35:54pm

re: #119 nines09

Under close care, his stooges can keep it under wraps. His presidential ward is private and secure. One nurse could tend to needs. Now the doctors are the ones who would be in charge of the paperwork and what is entered.
Think.
He’s running non stop. He’s telling people CV19 ain’t nothing. He beat it.
He never had it.
Glorious leader beats virus that killed thousands and YOU CAN TOO!
I can see it.
Set up.
Another act, a play, a lie.

I think Melania caught it and Gave it to the boy. Trump’s aides were saying “not a good look, if you know what I mean (wink wink), that she has it and you don’t”.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:36:54pm

re: #161 Teukka

O.O
Not gonna ask…

That’s good—I can’t answer. It just all looked so familiar, starting with the walking on ice cream. Seven gravies.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:37:03pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They don’t care. As long as the electoral college exists, Republican voters in those states do not matter for grasping and expanding power. If every one of them died, they would lose a couple US House seats.

whatever year texas goes blue and stays, watch how fast they’ll want to abandon the EC

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:38:31pm

As always, thanks for the signal-boost, boss.

I’ve been dealing with Trumpist relatives who claim it’s all a hoax and refuse to wear a mask or take precautions, despite some family members getting deathly ill.

Even death itself will not snap them out of their preferred delusion.

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BigPapa  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:38:46pm

re: #159 jaunte

‘all politics is local’

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:39:10pm

re: #160 Jay C

It’s not the number of comments, actually, it’s the amount of memory used. Threads with a lot of embedded tweets use much more memory because Twitter has recently changed their embed code quite a bit and they now use a lot more memory than before.

I have a 256G iPhone and it’s able to load longer threads without a problem, but a lot of mobile devices have much less memory available.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:40:51pm

re: #131 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

I found these paragraphs compelling:

[Embedded content]

That’s more or less what has happened in CA.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:41:31pm

re: #166 jeffreyw

I don’t want to sound like a loon, but how would a man of his age do what he’s doing after that? Sure he can up the Dexedrine derivatives, but it just doesn’t sit with me.
And you may have hit the nail on the head. Because they do not spend time together, how could he avoid infection with the lie that they do?
I just look at the lies he just throws in our faces and think this is one more con.
Glorious Leader. Remember when he came back to the White House? That fucking Benito moment? All he had to do was act hard and breathe a little differently.
And who thinks his wife and kid caught it?
One more “Invincible First Family” lie.
ETTD

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:41:45pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

I have a 256 as well. I’ve cleared cache and reset and still get the same results.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:41:47pm

re: #146 Teukka

Fresh from the feeds, part deux:

[Embedded content]

Memories of Math Class Hell where I had an absolute white hot hatred for the “Candy Store” problem…”Billy sees one candy at $3.85 a pound and another candy at $2.89 a pound. Billy has $5.19. What is the optimal mixture Billy can buy with all of his money”?

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:42:47pm

re: #143 dangerman

when i was actively teaching scuba and people just would not listen to what could easily happen to them and ruin their day, we used to say ‘natural selection is a slow process’

Heh. I remember going through scuba class, and realizing the classroom section is basically teaching you all the stupid things you could do that would kill you.

Reminds me of what snakebite specialists said about the prevailing patient demographics they’d see coming in suffering from rattlesnake bites: “They had a high T-to-T ratio.”

That is: more tattoos than teeth.

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Mattand  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:44:46pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

It’s not the number of comments, actually, it’s the amount of memory used. Threads with a lot of embedded tweets use much more memory because Twitter has recently changed their embed code quite a bit and they now use a lot more memory than before.

I have a 256G iPhone and it’s able to load longer threads without a problem, but a lot of mobile devices have much less memory available.

I have been struggling to read this site and a boatload of others in Safari on my iPad. Phone is okay, iMac is perfect. I keep getting “can’t load this site” errors constantly. Tried killing both javascript and flushing the cache. Nada.

Restarting the iPad seems to help, but the problem eventually creeps back in. Real close to switching to Chrome on the iPad for the time being.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:45:51pm

re: #149 calochortus

Enjoyed getting out and taking a walk earlier. Did wonders for my mental state. Amusingly the story on NPR while I drove to my walking place of choice had a piece on election anxiety.
One item mentioned was the fact that people’s coping skills are better than we think because we descend from people who underestimate their skills rather than overestimate them. The people who just know they can jump that gap, or whatever, didn’t leave as many descendants.

Redneck last words:

“Hey y’all! Watch this!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:46:49pm

re: #83 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

She can say Merry Christmas to Trump when they’re both in Hell.

south park christmas time in hell full video full HD

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:47:11pm

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Did this make the rounds? Asshole from Idaho…

LOL

Every time one of these guys speaks up, another atheist gets her wings.

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:47:36pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

It’s not the number of comments, actually, it’s the amount of memory used. Threads with a lot of embedded tweets use much more memory because Twitter has recently changed their embed code quite a bit and they now use a lot more memory than before.

I have a 256G iPhone and it’s able to load longer threads without a problem, but a lot of mobile devices have much less memory available.

How does the on board storage affect how a page loads? Wouldn’t that be a function of the available ram? On the iphone 11 it was 4Gb, the 12 pro has 6Gb but the other 12 models are still only 4Gb. The iphone 10 I think had 3Gb.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:48:14pm

re: #175 🌹UOJB!

Memories of Math Class Hell where I had an absolute white hot hatred for the “Candy Store” problem…”Billy sees one candy at $3.85 a pound and another candy at $2.89 a pound. Billy has $5.19. What is the optimal mixture Billy can buy with all of his money”?

If either isn’t chocolate, who cares. I’ll save the $5.19. If they’re both chocolate, but only one is dark chocolate, that’s the one I buy. If both are dark chocolate, then I buy the higher quality version.

/the only correct answer (other than 42)

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:48:35pm

re: #172 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

That’s more or less what has happened in CA.

Yeah, I was there for a lot of this. Remember when Prop 187 passed, and the outrage in the state. I met Gray Davis way back in ‘92 in a law office, where he was doing the donations dance in front of a bunch of Los Angeles kingmakers.

Not impressed then. He really blew it, leading to the disastrous Governator experiment - about as close as California came to electing a Trump.

Only Arnie is actually kinda smart and has a soul. He worked for what he got. Not like rich-baby Trump.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:49:06pm

This is why I will concentrate on targeting Ohio, Georgia and ESPECIALLY Texas when I do my final round of phone banking this weekend! I’m Dreaming Of A BLUE TEXAS!

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:50:07pm

re: #174 Dave In Austin

I have a 256 as well. I’ve cleared cache and reset and still get the same results.

Is there a way, around comment 150 or so, to start a new page automatically, with a title like “[First page title] page 2?”

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:51:59pm

re: #183 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Yeah, I was there for a lot of this. Remember when Prop 187 passed, and the outrage in the state. I met Gray Davis way back in ‘92 in a law office, where he was doing the donations dance in front of a bunch of Los Angeles kingmakers.

Not impressed then. He really blew it, leading to the disastrous Governator experiment - about as close as California came to electing a Trump.

Only Arnie is actually kinda smart and has a soul. He worked for what he got. Not like rich-baby Trump.

Yeah. IIRC Ahh-nold ran as a lark (along with a bazillion other people) but when he was elected, he really did make an effort.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:52:11pm

I walked my ballot over to the drop box at the townhall. Yay, me!!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:56:52pm

re: #90 sagehen

My niece’s wedding was originally supposed to be in early May; hundreds of guests, synagogue and rabbi, country club reception, catered dinner, live band, video crew etc.

Instead… late March, at my brother’s house. 6 people present; other niece officiated with an on-line UCC ordination. The catered dinner, that they’d already paid for, became boxed meals given to a food bank for distribution. The band and video crew could keep their deposit if they if they spent the day delivering food bank boxes to the elderly.

We’ll have a proper reception when this is all over.

The donation of food and allowing the band and video crew to keep their deposits was very kind of you.

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:57:16pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

People trying to get rid of daylight savings time piss me off. People have spent decades of their lives trying to get the software right to make this shit work and now it mostly does.

And now we’re just going to throw all this hard work in the trash.

Infuriating.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 12:57:57pm

re: #186 calochortus

Yeah. IIRC Ahh-nold ran as a lark (along with a bazillion other people) but when he was elected, he really did make an effort.

Yes Ahnold made an effort to pass school vouchers and break unions. He failed at both of those but he let the red ink flow like the dam was broke.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:01:04pm

re: #97 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That’s nothing. Trump’s done the Merry Christmas bit in July.

Gov. Rick Perry was way ahead of Trump’s curve back on June 14, 2013.

Merry Christmas Bill (Wikipedia)

They have to have their culture wars. They cannot run honestly on what they support (grasping more power and feudalism for everyone else).

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:01:13pm

re: #189 John Hughes

People trying to get rid of daylight savings time piss me off. People have spent decades of their lives trying to get the software right to make this shit work and now it mostly does.

And now we’re just going to throw all this hard work in the trash.

Infuriating.

It’s one of those things that sounds great on paper, but for people north of 35 degrees N, the complaints that would start up as soon as people realize they’ll never see a summer sunset after 8 PM (but hey, they’ll have sunrise at 3:45 AM!) would be loud and persistent.

Year-round DST might go over a little better, but sunrise at 9 AM won’t be welcome in the northern winter, either.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:02:10pm

re: #190 🌹UOJB!

Yes Ahnold made an effort to pass school vouchers and break unions. He failed at both of those but he let the red ink flow like the dam was broke.

I didn’t say I agreed with the majority of his positions, and he had no government experience, but he wasn’t all that Trump-like.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:02:46pm

Kentucky State Police were trained to be fascist killers with quotes urging violence from Der Führer himself. manualredeye.com

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:04:12pm

re: #186 calochortus

Yeah. IIRC Ahh-nold ran as a lark (along with a bazillion other people) but when he was elected, he really did make an effort.

I dunno: Arnold’s running for Governor wasn’t *quite* a “lark”; - if I recall the history correctly, he had been pushing the CA GOP to let him front for public office for years: and for years, the Party had been pushing him off: happy enough to take his money, but hesitant to put him up for office because they thought he was way too much the “Hollywood liberal” to fit the Party Line (i.e. not a xenophobic, homophobic racist for whom political time had frozen in 1928); so he grabbed the opportunity afforded by the Gray Davis recall to run “on his own”, and won: for which the CA Republicans never forgave him….

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:04:22pm

re: #190 🌹UOJB!

Yes Ahnold made an effort to pass school vouchers and break unions. He failed at both of those but he let the red ink flow like the dam was broke.

Also let Enron off the hook for pennies on the dollar didn’t he?

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:05:37pm

re: #189 John Hughes

People trying to get rid of daylight savings time piss me off. People have spent decades of their lives trying to get the software right to make this shit work and now it mostly does.

And now we’re just going to throw all this hard work in the trash.

Infuriating.

As a software developer, I’ll say that if you can’t delete the code you wrote, you shouldn’t be a software developer.

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:08:10pm

re: #195 Jay C

I dunno: Arnold’s running for Governor wasn’t *quite* a “lark”; - if I recall the history correctly, he had been pushing the CA GOP to let him front for public office for years: and for years, the Party had been pushing him off: happy enough to take his money, but hesitant to put him up for office because they thought he was way too much the “Hollywood liberal” to fit the Party Line (i.e. not a xenophobic, homophobic racist for whom political time had frozen in 1928); so he grabbed the opportunity afforded by the Gray Davis recall to run “on his own”, and won: for which the CA Republicans never forgave him….

That could be. It was the year after my Mom died and I was (and had been) following politics less.

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dat_said  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:09:15pm

Pre: #192 i(m)p(each)sos

It’s one of those things that sounds great on paper, but for people north of 35 degrees N, the complaints that would start up as soon as people realize they’ll never see a summer sunset after 8 PM (but hey, they’ll have sunrise at 3:45 AM!) would be loud and persistent.

Year-round DST might go over a little better, but sunrise at 9 AM won’t be welcome in the northern winter, either.

I remember when DST was extended in 1974 by Nixon. They gave us these little reflective white dot stickers to put on our parkas so we wouldn’t get run over by snowplow as we walked to school on those dark and cold ND winter mornings.

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EPR-radar  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:10:10pm

re: #175 🌹UOJB!

Memories of Math Class Hell where I had an absolute white hot hatred for the “Candy Store” problem…”Billy sees one candy at $3.85 a pound and another candy at $2.89 a pound. Billy has $5.19. What is the optimal mixture Billy can buy with all of his money”?

It’s reasonable to dislike this problem because it’s ill-defined (what is ‘optimal’?, is the candy only sold in 1 pound units?).

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EPR-radar  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:12:05pm

re: #183 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Yeah, I was there for a lot of this. Remember when Prop 187 passed, and the outrage in the state. I met Gray Davis way back in ‘92 in a law office, where he was doing the donations dance in front of a bunch of Los Angeles kingmakers.

Not impressed then. He really blew it, leading to the disastrous Governator experiment - about as close as California came to electing a Trump.

Only Arnie is actually kinda smart and has a soul. He worked for what he got. Not like rich-baby Trump.

The main problem with Gray Davis is that he so transparently viewed being CA governor exclusively as a stepping stone toward the presidency. That said, he was ratfucked to hell and back again by the W Bushies when the energy deregulation disaster hit.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:13:08pm

re: #193 calochortus

I didn’t say I agreed with the majority of his positions, and he had no government experience, but he wasn’t all that Trump-like.

The reason why Asshole Ah-Nold is on my shit list is because of the way he fucked up the state disability determination service when he was Governor. He forced the entire staff to take a 20% pay cut by furloughing them one day a week. Money appropriated to process claims INSTEAD went to other state government servies—like taking care of that motherfather’s plane that he flew to Sacramento and back.

Cases backlogged and a lot of them wound up elsewhere, including on my desk but we had the same timeframe to process them.

The week after Jerry Brown took over the furlough was over and the cases were off my desk along with the pissed off people yelling about why it was taking so long to process the claims…

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:14:15pm

re: #196 Eventual Carrion

Also let Enron off the hook for pennies on the dollar didn’t he?

Why yes he did! Like every other fucking Republican!

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:15:42pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

The main problem with Gray Davis is that he so transparently viewed being CA governor exclusively as a stepping stone toward the presidency. That said, he was ratfucked to hell and back again by the W Bushies when the energy deregulation disaster hit.

Well, there was also his cozying up to anyone with a checkbook. He really saw the governorship as a vehicle to line his pockets.

Remember the insurance commissioner letting all the insurance companies off the hook for shafting their customers after the ‘94 Northridge Quake?

‘Cause I sure do.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:15:58pm

FB post about tomorrow’s Halloween Comedy show.

facebook.com

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:19:08pm
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Mike Lamb  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:20:34pm

re: #192 i(m)p(each)sos

It’s one of those things that sounds great on paper, but for people north of 35 degrees N, the complaints that would start up as soon as people realize they’ll never see a summer sunset after 8 PM (but hey, they’ll have sunrise at 3:45 AM!) would be loud and persistent.

Year-round DST might go over a little better, but sunrise at 9 AM won’t be welcome in the northern winter, either.

In Colorado, at the height of winter, sun is up around 730 AM and sunset is 440 or so. I’d 10x rather have sunrise at 830 AM, with sunset at 540.

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EPR-radar  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:22:51pm

re: #204 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Well, there was also his cozying up to anyone with a checkbook. He really saw the governorship as a vehicle to line his pockets.

Remember the insurance commissioner letting all the insurance companies off the hook for shafting their customers after the ‘94 Northridge Quake?

‘Cause I sure do.

There was also that business of (total lack of) executive clemency. Davis’s approach to the possibility of having a future Willie Horton style attack vs. his candidacy was to just deny everything that came to him from the state parole board.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:24:32pm

I am also having the issue with my browser choking on large threads (using iPhone 11 256GB).

It was never a problem until a month or so ago which is when I assume Twitter changed up their backend.

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:25:52pm

The problem is DST works well if you’re in the middle of a timezone.

In Indiana, we’re starting to get daylight somewhere around 830 right now. IT SUCKS SO MUCH.

We used to not do DST - only have EST all year, and it worked a lot better.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:28:21pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:33:20pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:34:42pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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And we won’t have a federal government that gives a damn until January 20.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:34:43pm

Just a little longer now…..

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ckkatz  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:34:59pm

Thread - Kurt Eichenwald (former journalist with NY Times and Newsweek) on Glen Greenwald tantrum:

TL;DR: “congrats on what must be a good day that this guy is finally gone”

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:38:08pm

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calochortus  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:38:47pm

Time to go clean stuff. My window screens can finally come out for the winter. Usually at this time of year they are dirty and can use a bit of cleaning. This year? With all the smoke? Utterly filthy. Even the screens on the casement windows that are on the inside. Yuck. So are the windows. And everything else. The whole outdoors needs a good rain.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:41:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:41:57pm
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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:42:14pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Those are all signs that there’s not enough testing. That’s not a sign that there’s more testing revealing cases that otherwise wouldn’t be a problem.

It means that community spread is so pervasive that contact tracing can’t be done due to the volume/percentage of cases.

The states with the highest positive rates strongly correlates with whether Trumpists are in charge.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:45:06pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Yes. He’s that batcrap insane *and* he’s doing a performance.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:48:30pm

Another “October surprise”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:48:59pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL

Every time one of these guys speaks up, another atheist gets her wings.

*Snort* I can imagine how my late wife would have reacted if I had suggested this:

“OUT! OUT! OUT! The doghouse for you!”
“But we don’t have a doghouse!”
“Then build one with all that scrap lumber you’ve been hoarding for your non-existent projects! You have a couple of hours before it gets really cold. Get to it!”

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cat-tikvah  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:49:01pm

re: #140 dangerman

SCREW THE GOP! Let’s get those ballots in Philly!

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:49:58pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Another “October surprise”

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Here we go again.

My wife and I don’t make enough to be an elite, and we haven’t lived in a coastal state since 1991, Bernie.

Sanders’ “stick the shiv in after he’s used us to get the legitimacy he craves” act is well past its sell-by date. Just like Bernie.

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BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:50:00pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

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I can’t say for sure, but WTF is “coverage in the spirit of faith” supposed to mean?

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:50:25pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Insane

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jamesfirecat  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:51:44pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Another “October surprise”

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Couldn’t keep your mouth shut for five more days? Really?

I mean I don’t expect this to make a difference but fuck you very much Bernie.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:52:18pm

This is just batshit, all the time.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:52:45pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Who?

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:53:52pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Right on time.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:54:31pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

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No, Glenn, Trump is a loathsome creature and massively evil, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say he is actually Satan. He isn’t smart enough for one thing and Satan would certainly choose to be more athletic and better looking.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:54:51pm

re: #226 BeachDem

That’s the beauty of it!
What do you think it means?

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:55:26pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Another “October surprise”

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He just can’t keep from stepping in the white poop.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:58:30pm

I can think of a few “Coastal Elites” that Bernie needs to talk to:

Joe Manchin
Ilhan Omar
Collin Allred
John Kelly
Doug Jones
Gretchen Whitmer
Me

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:58:42pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Water is wet and Bernie’s still butthurt he’s not the nominee.

His concern is duly noted and delivered to the proper authority: circular file.

We have bigger fish to fry than Bernie, but he’s going to keep doing his bulkshit routine and purity ponies will line up behind him regardless of the consequences. And even after Biden wins, they’ll undercut his efforts as being insufficient. Just you watch.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Oct 30, 2020 • 1:59:21pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Another “October surprise”

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This is how Bernie pays back Joe Biden for giving him a seat at the table of the gathering of his advisors. We really do not need his “cult of personality” to replace the Trump one for last four years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:01:56pm

re: #189 John Hughes

People trying to get rid of daylight savings time piss me off. People have spent decades of their lives trying to get the software right to make this shit work and now it mostly does.

And now we’re just going to throw all this hard work in the trash.

Infuriating.

Sunk cost fallacy.

Anyway, the software would still work.

Most cell phones get their time from cell towers, which are calibrated to the NIST. NIST’s time broadcasts on WWV or WWVH have a bit which says “Daylight Saving Time.”

Not every area uses Daylight Saving Time anyway, so operating systems like Windows have a checkbox to click it off. Microsoft also has to push an update for the dates it starts and ends.

For the clocks in my house, none of them set automatically. I have to reset all of them twice a year.

As for agricultural areas, livestock don’t pay attention the the whinging of engineers and all their hard work to make Daylight Saving Time work in California, but not in Arizona, except on the Navajo Reservation, but not on the Hopi Reservation inside it.

Daylight Saving Time in northern areas mean children are waiting for school buses in full dark (and it’s also colder because it’s full dark).

Most of the landmass outside North America and Europe does not use Daylight Saving Time. Only a minority of the world’s population actually uses DST.

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nines09  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:03:49pm

I follow this guy on Twitter. He’s been through hell. Read his bio by looking him up but look at the joy on this young mans face. He’s young, he’s a motivational speaker, and is just a really good human. Great story.

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:06:16pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Another “October surprise”

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“please make me labor secretary”

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ericblair  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:08:08pm

re: #240 dangerman

“please make me labor secretary”

Chairman of the Standing Subcommittee on Office Supplies. Fuck him.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:08:28pm

re: #240 dangerman

“please make me labor secretary”

[Embedded content]

I’m also fascinated by the idea that “Coastal Elite” really means “listens to minorities and women.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:08:47pm

re: #199 dat_said

P

I remember when DST was extended in 1974 by Nixon. They gave us these little reflective white dot stickers to put on our parkas so we wouldn’t get run over by snowplow as we walked to school on those dark and cold ND winter mornings.

Same thing in Michigan for me, except waiting by the road for the school bus.

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BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:09:06pm

And as Bernie rears his obnoxious head, Sirota has a brand new grift.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:09:53pm

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Did this make the rounds? Asshole from Idaho…

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Here is another asshole from Idaho.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:10:45pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Most of the landmass outside North America and Europe does not use Daylight Saving Time. Only a minority of the world’s population actually uses DST.

What percentage of the world’s population lives within 35 degrees of the equator, where the length of daylight doesn’t vary enough from winter to summer to make DST a useful concept?

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:11:35pm

re: #244 BeachDem

And as Bernie rears his obnoxious head, Sirota has a brand new grift.

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Looks to me like Sirota wants to create a new workplace for his old buddy Greenwald.

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:12:09pm

re: #242 Belafon

I’m also fascinated by the idea that “Coastal Elite” really means “listens to minorities and women.”

Or that Bernie’s notion of “working class” seems to be rooted sometime around 1940, rather than the reality that said class is way more Donald Trump’s electoral base than his….

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:14:11pm

re: #245 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Here is another asshole from Idaho.

[Embedded content]

pendanting here
that’s not ‘flashing’
that’s posing
and with the specific intention of, ahem, triggering the libs

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:14:26pm

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

I am also having the issue with my browser choking on large threads (using iPhone 11 256GB).

It was never a problem until a month or so ago which is when I assume Twitter changed up their backend.

I have the same problem which got worse when I installed the latest iOS update.

I know Twitter embeds are bad and some embeds are worse than others (sometimes I can get to 475 comments before hitting Spy, others like today, I had to hit Spy at 250 comments.)

I have an iPhone Xs with the largest possible memory (which I don’t remember what is, just that I went all out on it.).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:15:43pm

re: #207 Mike Lamb

In Colorado, at the height of winter, sun is up around 730 AM and sunset is 440 or so. I’d 10x rather have sunrise at 830 AM, with sunset at 540.

We’re further north, so the day is shorter in the winter.

DST is also not a problem of north-south, it’s also a problem of east-west. I live near the eastern boundary of Mythical Time Zone (it’s only a few miles from here). As such, the sun comes up much earlier in the morning by the clock (DST or not) than it does over on the west side of Utah.

We could go like the People’s Republic of China and just put the whole country on one time zone with no DST. That solves everything (and they don’t seem to have any software issues with that either).

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:15:59pm

re: #240 dangerman

“please make me labor secretary”

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Vermont has a Republican governor, Bernie is staying in the Senate.

(So is Warren)

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Mike Lamb  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:17:13pm

So, how long after Biden is inaugurated do we hear “Why hasn’t the pandemic ended? We were told that Biden would end the pandemic.”? 24 hours?

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William Lewis  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:17:16pm

re: #240 dangerman

“please make me labor secretary”

I told a Bro what I thought of Bernie the other day:

He lost because he’s a lousy candidate and got his rear quarter whipped both cycles by far superior candidates.

And that’s a good thing - we don’t need a racist who hid it by moving to lily white Vermont as our candidate, has accomplished nothing in the either branch of Congress and his wife is almost as corrupt as a Trump child.

He’d have been stomped into the ground in a general election.

Bro’s response was “well, I disagree.” Pffft.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:17:52pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My goal is to shift to a 28 hour day, and people will just have to deal with the sun rising at a different 4 hour block every day. No savings time needed.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:18:00pm

re: #253 Mike Lamb

So, how long after Biden is inaugurated do we hear “Why hasn’t the pandemic ended? We were told that Biden would end the pandemic.”? 24 hours?

Inaugurated?

Hell, we’ll be hearing that in about 5 days…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:18:39pm

re: #249 dangerman

pendanting here
that’s not ‘flashing’
that’s posing
and with the specific intention of, ahem, triggering the libs

[Embedded content]

Whatever. She’s still an asshole.

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wrenchwench  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:19:10pm

re: #255 Belafon

My goal is to shift to a 28 hour day, and people will just have to deal with the sun rising at a different 4 hour block every day.

The seven day week is too long, and entirely artificial.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:19:25pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re further north, so the day is shorter in the winter.

DST is also not a problem of north-south, it’s also a problem of east-west. I live near the eastern boundary of Mythical Time Zone (it’s only a few miles from here). As such, the sun comes up much earlier in the morning by the clock (DST or not) than it does over on the west side of Utah.

We could go like the People’s Republic of China and just put the whole country on one time zone with no DST. That solves everything (and they don’t seem to have any software issues with that either).

Not sure why that would be a problem.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:19:37pm

re: #249 dangerman

pendanting here
that’s not ‘flashing’
that’s posing
and with the specific intention of, ahem, triggering the libs

[Embedded content]

Looks like a gang-member to me. Having a gun isn’t weird; Posing with them is.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:20:10pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Nevada, Nebraska, Alabama and Kansas are above 20%

Iowa, Wyoming and Idaho are above 30%

Yay us.

And that doesn’t capture more granular data: Panhandle Public Health District has us on a seven-day running average positivity rate of 59%.

I’m going to grow old in my house I guess.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:20:51pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re further north, so the day is shorter.

DST is also not a problem of north-south, it’s also a problem of east-west. I live near the eastern boundary of Mythical Time Zone (it’s only a few miles from here). As such, the sun comes up much earlier in the morning by the clock (DST or not) than it does over on the west side of Utah.

We could go like the People’s Republic of China and just put the whole country on one time zone with no DST. That solves everything (and they don’t seem to have any software issues with that either).

I don’t think a single time zone would work… if only because the work around would be “people further west starting the day later”.

Personally, I’d be fine with ending day light savings time - whether we go permanent standard time or permanent day light time, I don’t really care.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:22:29pm

Yup that’s exactly what the chart shows.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:23:56pm

re: #258 wrenchwench

The seven day week is too long, and entirely artificial.

Five day weeks, that gives us a 73 week calendar, 11 months at 6 weeks, one month at 7 weeks (let’s make it February to make up for the fact that it’s been short for so long).

Also, work weeks are now 3 days. Three days on, two days off.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:24:15pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Most cell phones get their time from cell towers, which are calibrated to the NIST. NIST’s time broadcasts on WWV or WWVH have a bit which says “Daylight Saving Time.”

I thought that cell towers got their time source from GPS, not WWV.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:25:12pm

The SPLC has listed a set of projects to protect individual election site rights. These urls send you into their long version and associated links:

splcenter.org

splcenter.org

lawyerscommittee.org

Keep it real-world.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:25:14pm

re: #246 i(m)p(each)sos

What percentage of the world’s population lives within 35 degrees of the equator, where the length of daylight doesn’t vary enough from winter to summer to make DST a useful concept?

I can’t say. Wikipedia has a map of all the areas with and without DST.
Image: File:DST_Countries_Map.png

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Charles Johnson  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:26:12pm
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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:26:16pm

my experience:

- dell desktop windows 7, 8gb - never chokes
- new / recent samsung s10e phone, android 10, 6gb is also lightning fast and never chokes

- zte AT&T K88 tablet, android 7, 1.8gb is a dog
slooooowwww to load long lgf pages, but eventually does and then things are fine.
until i click on another chrome tab to copy/ paste some text or a link.
90% of the time, when i click back, lgf (or any other site) **reloads all over again**.

plus, in landscape mode the edit controls dont work - ie can’t bold, italics, blockquote etc

first world problems

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:27:05pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Vermont has a Republican governor, Bernie is staying in the Senate.

(So is Warren)

yup

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:27:44pm

re: #253 Mike Lamb

So, how long after Biden is inaugurated do we hear “Why hasn’t the pandemic ended? We were told that Biden would end the pandemic.”? 24 hours?

i predicted last thread that trump will again state that he ended it, then it came back worse under biden

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:28:41pm

re: #258 wrenchwench

The seven day week is too long, and entirely artificial.

train accidents tend to damage the first or last cars more than the others
.:. remove them

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dangerman  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:29:39pm

re: #262 KGxvi

I don’t think a single time zone would work… if only because the work around would be “people further west starting the day later”.

Personally, I’d be fine with ending day light savings time - whether we go permanent standard time or permanent day light time, I don’t really care.

time is fleeting…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:29:48pm

re: #272 dangerman

train accidents tend to damage the first or last cars more than the others
.:. remove them

Most car accidents take place within a mile of home, so park your car a mile from home and walk from there…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:29:59pm

re: #254 William Lewis

I told a Bro what I thought of Bernie the other day:

Bro’s response was “well, I disagree.” Pffft.

Imagine, if you will, the presidential debates wish two old guys screaming at each other. Because that would have been Bernie and trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:30:39pm

re: #265 Eric The Fruit Bat

I thought that cell towers got their time source from GPS, not WWV.

——

Master time from a GPS

A common source of accurate time for a master clock is a global positioning satellite (GPS) signal. Satellites in space broadcast precise time all over the world. This time is received from the atomic clock, which is located at the National Institute of Standards and Technology or NIST in Colorado. The master clock in a school or business must have an antenna located outdoors in order to receive the GPS time signal and synchronize to it. The master clock communicates with the GPS every hour to acquire the correct time, which it passes along to the other clocks within the environment.
Master time from a cellular phone tower

Cellular phone towers seem to be everywhere these days, and they serve a larger purpose beyond providing phone signals to hundreds of millions of cell phones. These towers also send out a time signal, which our cell phones receive to keep precise time. Master clocks also acquire these time signals, thanks to an internal module, which communicates with the tower, collects the time information, and passes it along to the clocks within the system. If you’re curious about where the cell tower gets it’s time — the atomic clock in Colorado is the source.

(emphasis mine, more at the link): The Sync Operations for a Master Clock (Goes to American Time Blog, May 17, 2017)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:32:35pm

re: #262 KGxvi

I don’t think a single time zone would work… if only because the work around would be “people further west starting the day later”.

Personally, I’d be fine with ending day light savings time - whether we go permanent standard time or permanent day light time, I don’t really care.

I grew up in Indiana where they did not change the clocks (they later adopted it) and in Arizona where they still don’t*

*Except on the Navajo Reservation**

**But the Hopi Reservation, completely surrounded by Navajo Land, does not change, so you can find yourself changing your clock four times going from Flagstaff to Gallup…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:35:10pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Vermont has a Republican governor, Bernie is staying in the Senate.

(So is Warren)

Massachusetts’s constitution requires a special election if a senator leaves her post for some reason. That’s how Scott Brown got in (on the death of Ted Kennedy).

malegislature.gov

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Alephnaught  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:36:06pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The same as the UK’s Conservative Party: Letting the virus rip through the population was deliberate.

The same here. It requires no special planning, no experts, no intelligence. Denigrate “elites” as conservatives have done as long as conservatism has existed, and that’s all you need to do.

The “herd immunity” approach was definitely Boris Johnson’s initial approach. However, his scientific advisors managed to talk him out of it.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:38:19pm

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

True, but the governor still gets to appoint a replacement until the election, that’s still one less vote in a close Senate. And then we could end up with the appointee actually winning the special election, which also happened with Brown.

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William Lewis  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:38:38pm

re: #264 KGxvi

Also, work weeks are now 3 days. Three days on, two days off.

I have read a serious suggestion of a four day work week that I liked. Sunday off, Monday & Tuesday on, then Wednesday off, Thursday & Friday on, with Saturday still the usual weekend.

Combine this with universal health care and a guaranteed minimum income for serious long term societal gains in productivity and happiness.

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:39:41pm

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Massachusetts’s constitution requires a special election if a senator leaves her post for some reason. That’s how Scott Brown got in (on the death of Ted Kennedy).

malegislature.gov

Yes: I think MA had had a “til next general election” provision for replacing Senators, then changed it when they thought Teddy K was going to croak, since they didn’t want an (R) replacing him. But unfortunately, they got Scott Brown instead (until Warren got in).

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Nojay UK  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:41:20pm

re: #279 Alephnaught

The “herd immunity” approach was definitely Boris Johnson’s initial approach. However, his scientific advisors managed to talk him out of it.

Yep, quite quickly. The UK was in a stay-at-home lockdown by late March — I live city centre on an A road, a city-to-city 4-lane thoroughfare that usually has about a hundred coaches and buses an hour going both ways at rush-hour plus cars, taxis, vans, trucks, bicycles etc. I looked out the window at 6:00 p.m. and there was nothing but a plastic bag blowing down the road like a tumbleweed.

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KGxvi  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:41:36pm

re: #281 William Lewis

I have read a serious suggestion of a four day work week that I liked. Sunday off, Monday & Tuesday on, then Wednesday off, Thursday & Friday on, with Saturday still the usual weekend.

Combine this with universal health care and a guaranteed minimum income for serious long term societal gains in productivity and happiness.

I’ve heard about that. Apparently a lot of doctors work some schedule like that because it’s best for mental health/productivity.

I’d be good with a four day work week and letting people pick whether they go MTTF, M-T, or T-F

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:42:15pm

re: #264 KGxvi

Five day weeks, that gives us a 73 week calendar, 11 months at 6 weeks, one month at 7 weeks (let’s make it February to make up for the fact that it’s been short for so long).

Also, work weeks are now 3 days. Three days on, two days off.

Discordianism for the win.

As described in the Principia Discordia, the Discordian calendar has five 73-day seasons: Chaos, Discord, Confusion, Bureaucracy, and The Aftermath. The Discordian year is aligned with the Gregorian calendar and begins on January 1, thus Chaos 1, 3186 YOLD is January 1, 2020 Gregorian.

The Erisian week consists of five days: Sweetmorn, Boomtime, Pungenday, Prickle-Prickle, and Setting Orange. The days of the week are named after the five basic Discordian elements: Sweet, Boom, Pungent, Prickle, and Orange. There are 73 of these weeks per year and every year begins with Sweetmorn.

Every fourth year in the Discordian calendar, starting in 2 YOLD, an extra day is inserted between Chaos 59 and Chaos 60 called St. Tib’s Day. This is because 4 years + 1 day = 5, a holy number, but the Discordian leap year also coincides with the Gregorian one. The result of this is that any given day of the year in the Discordian calendar may be taken to correspond to the same day of the year in the Gregorian calendar, and vice versa, although some users of the calendar believe that it is tied to the Julian calendar and so will diverge from the Gregorian in 3266 YOLD (CE 2100). St. Tib’s day is considered outside the Discordian week.

There are Apostle Holydays on the 5th day of each season, named after the 5 Discordian apostles: Mungday, for Hung Mung; Mojoday, for Dr Van Van Mojo; Syaday, for Sri Syadasti; Zaraday, for Zarathud; and Maladay, for Malaclypse the Elder. There are also Season Holydays on the 50th of each season: Chaoflux, Discoflux, Confuflux, Bureflux, and Afflux.

(more at Wikipedia)

Discordian Calendar

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:42:35pm

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Another “October surprise”

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I’ve got a response for them, “Fuck Bernie Sanders!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:43:26pm
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piratedan  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:44:00pm

happy to see Hunter Biden evaporate as an election issue…. just saying. Never was anything there to begin with but still happy to let this travesty submerge back into the muck without a ripple.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:44:43pm

re: #281 William Lewis

I have read a serious suggestion of a four day work week that I liked. Sunday off, Monday & Tuesday on, then Wednesday off, Thursday & Friday on, with Saturday still the usual weekend.

Combine this with universal health care and a guaranteed minimum income for serious long term societal gains in productivity and happiness.

One of our Army offices experimented with a 4X10 schedule, allowing people to choose the day off. Most went with Fri and Mon. The test came and went after a few months without explanation.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:45:21pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:45:34pm
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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:47:20pm

re: #291 The Pie Overlord!

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Ahhh, this was a beautiful headline to log into.

Evening Lizardim.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:49:35pm

re: #279 Alephnaught

The “herd immunity” approach was definitely Boris Johnson’s initial approach. However, his scientific advisors managed to talk him out of it.

Because it seemed at first like the least economically damaging approach, and they knew that between a shutdown and Brexit, they would send their entire economy into a tailspin.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:50:09pm

re: #287 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Seth Andrews is always good at these topics, since he used to be an Evangelical broadcaster in Oklahoma.

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BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:52:28pm

Quelle surprise—Florida.

As of Thursday, election officials had set aside twice as many ballots from Black and Hispanic voters as those from White voters, according to an analysis by University of Florida political science professor Daniel Smith. For people younger than 24, the rate was more than four times what it was for those 65 and older.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:54:23pm

I finally got my electricity back about an hour ago. Yard still needs a decent bit of work and I’ve probably lost $100 of food in my fridge but could have been a lot worse.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:55:17pm

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If you’re curious about where the cell tower gets it’s time — the atomic clock in Colorado is the source.

The cell towers could also get their time source from their internet backbones as well, via NTP - it would certainly be cheaper than equipping each cell tower with a specialized WWVL receiver that feeds a digital time source into the tower (especially if the tower is hosting multiple cellular providers.)

That’s what your Windows boxes use to set their time - and adjust - automatically.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:55:18pm

re: #295 BeachDem

Set aside for what reason?

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BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:57:26pm

And another big “surprise.”

Over the past five days, the on-time rate for ballots in 17 postal districts representing 10 battleground states and 151 electoral votes was 89.1 percent — 5.9 percentage points lower than the national average. By that measure, more than 1 in 10 ballots are arriving outside the Postal Service’s one-to-three-day delivery window for first-class mail.

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BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:58:07pm

re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg

Set aside for what reason?

The deficient ballots — which have been tagged for issues such as a missing signature — could be rejected if voters do not remedy the problems by 5 p.m. Nov. 5.

From WaPo—no other detail in the clip.

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:58:14pm

re: #248 Jay C

Or that Bernie’s notion of “working class” seems to be rooted sometime around 1940, rather than the reality that said class is way more Donald Trump’s electoral base than his….

In Bernie’s head the working class is white, male, cis and hetro.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 2:58:35pm

re: #297 Eric The Fruit Bat

The cell towers could also get their time source from their internet backbones as well, via NTP - it would certainly be cheaper than equipping each cell tower with a specialized WWVL receiver that feeds a digital time source into the tower (especially if the tower is hosting multiple cellular providers.)

That’s what your Windows boxes use to set their time - and adjust - automatically.

And if the internet goes down, you’re screwed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:01:03pm

re: #301 John Hughes

In Bernie’s head the working class is white, male, cis and hetro.

THIS.

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Tyrion  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:01:25pm

Wonder why it is that right wingers seem so confident all the time but liberals are always fretting the outcome. As a liberal, I’m scared to death Trump somehow pulls this out.

I really can’t understand anyone voting for the Mr. Orange Blossom.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:02:13pm

We could hit 100,000 new cases of Covid-19 today. (1000 deaths). Current 95,000. source: WashPost (not DTjr.)

FT

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:02:34pm

re: #297 Eric The Fruit Bat

The cell towers could also get their time source from their internet backbones as well, via NTP - it would certainly be cheaper than equipping each cell tower with a specialized WWVL receiver that feeds a digital time source into the tower (especially if the tower is hosting multiple cellular providers.)

That’s what your Windows boxes use to set their time - and adjust - automatically.

The idea is WWV is the source of all good things like time. GPS satellites are calibrated to WWV, and many cell companies use GPS to receive the time. Verizon uses a different system but also traces back to WWV, however, they are going to phase out that system in 2022. (They have repeatedly pushed back the date they would phase it out.)

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:03:13pm

re: #304 Tyrion

Wonder why it is that right wingers seem so confident all the time but liberals are always fretting the outcome. As a liberal, I’m scared to death Trump somehow pulls this out.

I really can’t understand anyone voting for the Mr. Orange Blossom.

Right-wingers live in an alternate reality, that they construct. Hence, they can be supremely confident, because they determine what is real.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:04:02pm

Welp.

I voted in KY.

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:05:31pm

re: #301 John Hughes

In Bernie’s head the working class is white, male, cis and hetro.

And: despite virtually every scintilla of objective evidence about their political views and voting patterns since the late 1960s, still assumed to be swayable to the “democratic socialist” viewpoint based on stock “classist” dialectic.

Bernie Sanders really is an American Jeremy Corbyn, isn’t he? Though, thankfully, never with the comparable influence.

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:06:18pm

re: #258 wrenchwench

The seven day week is too long, and entirely artificial.

We should all move to the French revolutionary calendar.

Today is, aptly, le 9 Brumaire CCXXIX. (To lazy to work out the day of the week).

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Alephnaught  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:06:21pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate Ron

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I have to be honest here. I don’t think the Scottish Government (and also the other devolved parliaments in Wales and Northern Ireland) are doing things that much differently or doing that much better than England in terms of combatting the coronavirus.

However, the difference in the devolved parliaments seems to be a heightened sense of publically perceived transparency in the public officials involved. For example, Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister of the Scottish Government, does her daily briefings on the Coronavirus, in a very Glaswegian no-nonsense style. Here’s an example from just over a week ago.

Coronavirus: Scotland’s five-tier Covid alert system revealed

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Tyrion  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:06:48pm

re: #307 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Right-wingers live in an alternate reality, that they construct. Hence, they can be supremely confident, because they determine what is real.

I try really hard not to hate people, but it’s really, really hard not to with some of these right wing asshats.

I want so badly to shove it down their throat come Tuesday night.

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Nojay UK  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:06:49pm

re: #297 Eric The Fruit Bat

The cell towers could also get their time source from their internet backbones as well, via NTP - it would certainly be cheaper than equipping each cell tower with a specialized WWVL receiver that feeds a digital time source into the tower (especially if the tower is hosting multiple cellular providers.)

That presumes the cabled network lag from the NPT Stratum 1 source can be precisely characterised. For most desktop and mobile phone applications etc. being half a second out in either direction is not critical, for a lot of niggly technical purposes that’s unacceptably sloppy.

GPS time signals can be assumed accurate to within fractions of a microsecond since the transmission path length is known to within a metre or two and compensation applied. If better than that is required then further calculations involving airpath changes to the speed of the radio transmission can be made to correct the time data even further. This of course can be further improved by using a dozen or more GPS downlinks together.

A long time back (not quite pre-GPS but close) I was involved in designing an accurate time clock system for financial transactions recording with a required accuracy of plus/minus 0.5 milliseconds. That used a broadcast time signal with geographical corrections to allow for speed-of-light delays from the transmitter to fine-tune the clock.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:09:25pm

re: #313 Nojay UK

GPS is currently the main practical application of both of Einstein’s theories of relativity, as both special and general relativity must be accounted for in order for the time signals to be accurate enough to enable the system to any usable resolution.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:09:37pm

re: #302 Belafon

And if the internet goes down, you’re screwed.

Maybe. Remember that all providers will always take the most inexpensive route to deploy their networks, and if they can cut corners by using something that has a high-enough reliability (like NTP), they will - I haven’t heard of any attacks against NTP services.

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:10:07pm

re: #264 KGxvi

My wife (a nursing assistant) works mostly 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1 off.

Makes coordination a bit hard.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:10:46pm

NHL Legend Bobby Orr took out a full page as to endorse Donald Trump. Many Canadians not happy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:10:59pm

re: #287 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

(6:59)

The Real God: An Epiphany

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BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:12:05pm

re: #312 Tyrion

I try really hard not to hate people, but it’s really, really hard not to with some of these right wing asshats.

I want so badly to shove it down their throat come Tuesday night.

Right there with you.

Apparently, there are four Dems, that they seem to be up in arms about. I just got an email (don’t ask me how I got on this list—ugh) from the Senate Conservative Fund warning me of Four Dangerous Democrats

Jon Ossoff, GA
Steve Bullock, MT (not MO—sorry)
Gary Peters, MI
Theresa Greenfield, IA

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Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:21:25pm

re: #319 BeachDem

Right there with you.

Apparently, there are four Dems, that they seem to be up in arms about. I just got an email (don’t ask me how I got on this list—ugh) from the Senate Conservative Fund warning me of Four Dangerous Democrats

Jon Ossoff, GA
Steve Bullock, MO
Gary Peters, MI
Theresa Greenfield, IA

Weird: I can understand wingers’ trepidations about Ossoff, Bullock and Greenfield (all D challengers with a good chance to unseat Republicans), Peters is the incumbent in MI (and favored) and not with much of a rep as “dangerous”, but, well… wingers.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:21:46pm

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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And, yes, I know that a camel can’t really eat a child.

Transferring its nicotine spit.

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:22:18pm

re: #319 BeachDem

Right there with you.

Apparently, there are four Dems, that they seem to be up in arms about. I just got an email (don’t ask me how I got on this list—ugh) from the Senate Conservative Fund warning me of Four Dangerous Democrats

Jon Ossoff, GA
Steve Bullock, MO
Gary Peters, MI
Theresa Greenfield, IA

Ossoff just hurt their feefees, that’s all.

Gah, CNN keeps showing the 2016 map for comparison and theorycrafting, and my acid reflux kicks each time.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:23:02pm

re: #309 Jay C

And: despite virtually every scintilla of objective evidence about their political views and voting patterns since the late 1960s, still assumed to be swayable to the “democratic socialist” viewpoint based on stock “classist” dialectic.

Bernie Sanders really is an American Jeremy Corbyn, isn’t he? Though, thankfully, never with the comparable influence.

Bernie loves to talk about how proud he is to be from Brooklyn, one of the most diverse places in the country but he hightailed it to lily white Vermont as soon as he could. I don’t want him as Labor Secretary. I’ve never been impressed with him as a political leader. As for coastal elites, our nominee is someone who took the train to and from work everyday and our VP is someone who is the daughter of immigrants and was raised by her single mom in Oakland. Who the fuck is Bernie whose biggest surrogates are millionaires like Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon to spew this shit?

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:23:29pm

re: #302 Belafon

And if the internet goes down, you’re screwed.

Uh, in the modern world if the internet goes down most of us are screwed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:23:48pm

re: #320 Jay C

Weird: I can understand wingers’ trepidations about Ossoff, Bullock and Greenfield (all D challengers with a good chance to unseat Republicans), Peters is the incumbent in MI (and favored) and not with much of a rep as “dangerous”, but, well… wingers.

Yeah Peters is a weird one.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:24:09pm

Here’s the fun part: Next week, I will be working shifts from 1:30 AM-10:00 AM CST. I won’t be able to watch the election results live. I am hoping I wake up very early on Wednesday morning to find that America has finally found their spine.

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William Lewis  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:24:15pm

re: #301 John Hughes

In Bernie’s head the working class is white, male, cis and hetro.

It really bugs me that he’s the symbol of democratic socialism at this point in America. I seriously doubt Mike Harrington would have wanted anything to do with him. He was everything Bernie isn’t.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:24:37pm

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò is at it again:

Mister President,

Allow me to address you at this hour in which the fate of the whole world is being threatened by a global conspiracy against God and humanity. I write to you as an Archbishop, as a Successor of the Apostles, as the former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America. I am writing to you in the midst of the silence of both civil and religious authorities. May you accept these words of mine as the “voice of one crying out in the desert” (Jn 1:23).

A global plan called the Great Reset is underway. Its architect is a global élite that wants to subdue all of humanity, imposing coercive measures with which to drastically limit individual freedoms and those of entire populations. In several nations this plan has already been approved and financed; in others it is still in an early stage. Behind the world leaders who are the accomplices and executors of this infernal project, there are unscrupulous characters who finance the World Economic Forum and Event 201, promoting their agenda.

The purpose of the Great Reset is the imposition of a health dictatorship aiming at the imposition of liberticidal measures, hidden behind tempting promises of ensuring a universal income and cancelling individual debt. The price of these concessions from the International Monetary Fund will be the renunciation of private property and adherence to a program of vaccination against Covid-19 and Covid-21 promoted by Bill Gates with the collaboration of the main pharmaceutical groups. Beyond the enormous economic interests that motivate the promoters of the Great Reset, the imposition of the vaccination will be accompanied by the requirement of a health passport and a digital ID, with the consequent contact tracing of the population of the entire world. Those who do not accept these measures will be confined in detention camps or placed under house arrest, and all their assets will be confiscated.

Mr. President, I imagine that you are already aware that in some countries the Great Reset will be activated between the end of this year and the first trimester of 2021. For this purpose, further lockdowns are planned, which will be officially justified by a supposed second and third wave of the pandemic. You are well aware of the means that have been deployed to sow panic and legitimize draconian limitations on individual liberties, artfully provoking a world-wide economic crisis. In the intentions of its architects, this crisis will serve to make the recourse of nations to the Great Reset irreversible, thereby giving the final blow to a world whose existence and very memory they want to completely cancel. But this world, Mr. President, includes people, affections, institutions, faith, culture, traditions, and ideals: people and values that do not act like automatons, who do not obey like machines, because they are endowed with a soul and a heart, because they are tied together by a spiritual bond that draws its strength from above, from that God that our adversaries want to challenge, just as Lucifer did at the beginning of time with his “non serviam.”

Until a few months ago, it was easy to smear as “conspiracy theorists” those who denounced these terrible plans, which we now see being carried out down to the smallest detail. No one, up until last February, would ever have thought that, in all of our cities, citizens would be arrested simply for wanting to walk down the street, to breathe, to want to keep their business open, to want to go to church on Sunday. Yet now it is happening all over the world, even in picture-postcard Italy that many Americans consider to be a small enchanted country, with its ancient monuments, its churches, its charming cities, its characteristic villages. And while the politicians are barricaded inside their palaces promulgating decrees like Persian satraps, businesses are failing, shops are closing, and people are prevented from living, traveling, working, and praying. The disastrous psychological consequences of this operation are already being seen, beginning with the suicides of desperate entrepreneurs and of our children, segregated from friends and classmates, told to follow their classes while sitting at home alone in front of a computer.

In Sacred Scripture, Saint Paul speaks to us of “the one who opposes” the manifestation of the mystery of iniquity, the kathèkon (2 Thess 2:6-7). In the religious sphere, this obstacle to evil is the Church, and in particular the papacy; in the political sphere, it is those who impede the establishment of the New World Order.

As is now clear, the one who occupies the Chair of Peter has betrayed his role from the very beginning in order to defend and promote the globalist ideology, supporting the agenda of the deep church, who chose him from its ranks.

Pope Francis wasn’t available for comment.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:25:53pm

re: #327 William Lewis

It really bugs me that he’s the symbol of democratic socialism at this point in America. I seriously doubt Mike Harrington would have wanted anything to do with him. He was everything Bernie isn’t.

I really hate what he’s done with younger people in this country. Am I glad that they’re interested in politics? Sure but I’m not happy with how he’s sold politics to them as an all or nothing game.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:25:57pm

re: #328 Eric The Fruit Bat

Who the fuck is this guy, and who does he think he is?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:27:33pm

re: #284 KGxvi

I’ve heard about that. Apparently a lot of doctors work some schedule like that because it’s best for mental health/productivity.

I’d be good with a four day work week and letting people pick whether they go MTTF, M-T, or T-F

What I’ve seen is two shifts of workers, one MTWT and the other TWThF. That gives five day coverage but progress work 4 10 hour days in a row.

I like that.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:27:37pm

re: #330 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Who the fuck is this guy, and who does he think he is?

And what the hell is “Covid-21”?!?!?

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:28:19pm

re: #309 Jay C

Bernie Sanders really is an American Jeremy Corbyn, isn’t he?

Well, no. Corbyn is a long time committed anti-racist, feminist and fighter for gay rights.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:29:36pm

re: #332 i(m)p(each)sos

And what the hell is “Covid-21”?!?!?

They (tm) are going to mutate the virus again, to keep us all under Their virtual control.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:30:16pm

re: #287 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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White Americans are in no danger but this is the gotterdamerung of “White America,” and the system of inherited privilege for which it has been the framework since colonial times. The local elites have been in a wild panic for decades, with many inheritable businesses having collapsed outright because of online sales and the related technologies that make the Big Boxes possible. The others, whose businesses are not so easily out-sourced or conducted virtually, face stiff competition from demographic sectors that were formerly suppressed and of no consequence. There is also the problem of generational decay that I have highlighted from time to time. This is a real thing, the result of culturally embedded flaws in the lifestyle of the hinterland upper crust. Their fear is real, too, almost palpable. It has been deepening since the Civil Rights movement and we are approaching a climax. I have actually been waiting, and working, for this all my life but I have gained a useful understanding of these issues only recently, ie in the last 15-20 years.
That climax might be only days away.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:30:32pm

re: #315 Eric The Fruit Bat

Maybe. Remember that all providers will always take the most inexpensive route to deploy their networks, and if they can cut corners by using something that has a high-enough reliability (like NTP), they will - I haven’t heard of any attacks against NTP services.

NTP server misuse and abuse (Wikipedia)

NTP server misuse and abuse covers a number of practices which cause damage or degradation to a Network Time Protocol (NTP) server, ranging from flooding it with traffic (effectively a DDoS attack) or violating the server’s access policy or the NTP rules of engagement. One incident was branded NTP vandalism in an open letter from Poul-Henning Kamp to the router manufacturer D-Link in 2006. This term has later been extended by others to retroactively include other incidents. There is, however, no evidence that any of these problems are deliberate vandalism. They are more usually caused by shortsighted or poorly chosen default configurations.

A deliberate form of NTP server abuse came to note at the end of 2013, when NTP servers were used as part of amplification denial-of-service attacks. Some NTP servers would respond to a single “monlist” UDP request packet, with packets describing up to 600 associations. By using a request with a spoofed IP address attackers could direct an amplified stream of packets at a network. This resulted in one of the largest distributed denial-of-service attacks known at the time.

(Internal link goes to Ars Technica with an article on a massive DDOS attack against Cloudflare’s NTP service). That article also details a previous attack on the anti-spam site Spamhaus.

From the last paragraph in the Ars Technica article:

Further, a recently discovered vulnerability in NTP allows for amplification attacks similar to those previously performed with DNS, exploiting a command in the protocol called “monlist” that sends the IP addresses of the last 600 devices connected to the server. These requests, sent via a packet with the forged address of the victim, send a torrent of data back at the targeted site. Like DNS reflection attacks, NTP attacks can be diminished in effectiveness by network operators if they configure firewalls to block external requests.

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BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:32:06pm

re: #320 Jay C

Weird: I can understand wingers’ trepidations about Ossoff, Bullock and Greenfield (all D challengers with a good chance to unseat Republicans), Peters is the incumbent in MI (and favored) and not with much of a rep as “dangerous”, but, well… wingers.

Sorry—I already deleted it FOREVER, so can’t go check.

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William Lewis  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:32:19pm

re: #333 John Hughes

Well, no. Corbyn is a long time committed anti-racist, feminist and fighter for gay rights.

Just ignore the anti-Semitism behind the curtain?

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William Lewis  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:33:15pm

re: #330 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Who the fuck is this guy, and who does he think he is?

Appears to be one of the far far far right whackados in the Roman branch.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:34:37pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Vermont has a Republican governor, Bernie is staying in the Senate.

(So is Warren)

I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this already, but both Vermont and Massachusetts use special elections if a Senate seat falls vacant, so it doesn’t matter who the governor is.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:34:55pm

re: #330 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #332 i(m)p(each)sos

This is what Wikipedia has on the dear Archbishop:

He is best known for his role in two major Vatican scandals. These were the Vatican leaks scandal in 2012 revealing financial corruption in the Vatican and a 2018 letter in which he accused Pope Francis and other Church leaders of covering up sexual abuse allegations against former cardinal Theodore McCarrick.

He’s the kind of Catholic clergy that Rob Dreher loves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:39:30pm

re: #324 John Hughes

Uh, in the modern world if the internet goes down most of us are screwed.

Aside from me not being on LGF, Wonkette, or other sites, my day will pretty much go as always.

Read the news in the morning newspaper and do the crossword puzzle, if I need to go to the store take my checkbook or get cash from the bank teller, my finger still can work the dial on my telephone (bonus: I never get spam texts because I do not have a Telex machine connected to my telephone), still can listen to the radio (well, KMOR Scottsbluff, rock, or KTNE Alliance, NPR, KAAQ Alliance, C&W - everything else here is right wing and Christian hate radio).

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:39:31pm

re: #338 William Lewis

Just ignore the anti-Semitism behind the curtain?

I’ve been seeing a lot of pushback lately from brits about this actually being a thing… but it’s definitely been something that’s stuck to him for a long time.

I will say that Corbyn does seem to channel the stupid-left vibe pretty well, and Labour as a party doesn’t make any real sense to me as an American. That’s the R vs. D lens of the world, of course, but no one in any party in London seems to have their head screwed on straight re Brexit, which seems to have been pushed across the line by both large parties despite half the population knowing better.

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:40:35pm

re: #338 William Lewis

Just ignore the anti-Semitism behind the curtain?

Corbyn has never been personally accused of anti-Semitism. Other than by people close to the real anti-Semitic party in the UK, the Tories.

(Yes, various people in the party have, to be polite, some pretty dodgy views, and the party, as an institution, fucked up its handling of reports of anti-Semitism).

When Edwina Curry said that Michel Howard was unfit to be party leader because there was “something if the night” about him just what exactly do you think she was saying?

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NetworkKed  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:40:58pm

Oh fuck, Worldometers is showing 90k and it’s got a couple hours to go yet today.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:41:29pm

re: #325 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah Peters is a weird one.

If there’s a D it means dangerous to them.

To me, R means rancid absy repulsive.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:41:55pm

re: #326 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Here’s the fun part: Next week, I will be working shifts from 1:30 AM-10:00 AM CST. I won’t be able to watch the election results live. I am hoping I wake up very early on Wednesday morning to find that America has finally found their spine.

That sounds like a blessing to me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:43:49pm

re: #346 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If there’s a D it means dangerous to them.

To me, R means rancid absy repulsive.

I know. I’m just saying Peters is an odd boogeyman to use. My own Senator Warner might even make more sense due to him being Ranking on Intel.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:44:37pm

re: #332 i(m)p(each)sos

And what the hell is “Covid-21”?!?!?

Stuff “they” don’t want you to know (yet).

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:46:53pm

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Aside from me not being on LGF, Wonkette, or other sites, my day will pretty much go as always.

Read the news in the morning newspaper

— which, oddly, was not published today.

get cash from the bank teller,

— who tells you he can’t give you any because the “system is down”

my finger still can work the dial on my telephone

— which can’t connect to anything outside local calls because the supplier of the supplier of your supplier went VOIP years ago.

Also, you’ll be luck if your electricity is working in a few hours.

351
Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:48:58pm

re: #345 NetworkKed

I still can’t believe China’s infection numbers are so insanely low.

352
🌹UOJB!  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:49:17pm

re: #320 Jay C

Weird: I can understand wingers’ trepidations about Ossoff, Bullock and Greenfield (all D challengers with a good chance to unseat Republicans), Peters is the incumbent in MI (and favored) and not with much of a rep as “dangerous”, but, well… wingers.

John James, Peters GOP opponent, is an Allen West clone.

353
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:49:30pm

I just got a text message from “Lt. Col. Allen West”. Dear God in heaven, they’re bringing out ALL the retreads.

354
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:49:47pm

re: #350 John Hughes

Aside from me not being on LGF, Wonkette, or other sites, my day will pretty much go as always.

Read the news in the morning newspaper

— which, oddly, was not published today.
(the paper isn’t published on Mondays)

get cash from the bank teller,
— who tells you he can’t give you any because the “system is down”
(We have a passbook savings account, both my banks use written ledgers and we have a real passbook)

my finger still can work the dial on my telephone
— which can’t connect to anything outside local calls because the supplier of the supplier of your supplier went VOIP years ago.
(I think CenturyLink is still using two cans and a string)

Also, you’ll be luck if your electricity is working in a few hours.

(It takes that long for the truck to get here … after the last tornado we went without electricity for nearly a month)

355
Danack  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:50:49pm

Once it’s seen, it cannot be unseen.

356
BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:51:45pm

re: #348 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I know. I’m just saying Peters is an odd boogeyman to use. My own Senator Warner might even make more sense due to him being Ranking on Intel.

Found it on their website—

GARY PETERS - MICHIGAN
Gary Peters (D-MI) has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood Action Fund and has fought to keep taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers.

Oooohh, scary!!

357
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:52:05pm
358
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:52:13pm

re: #353 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just got a text message from “Lt. Col. Allen West”. Dear God in heaven, they’re bringing out ALL the retreads.

Chair of the Texas GOP. That’s why they went all wingnut civil war on each other over Gov. Abbot’s very modest epidemic response.

359
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:52:50pm

re: #356 BeachDem

Found it on their website—

GARY PETERS - MICHIGAN
Gary Peters (D-MI) has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood Action Fund and has fought to keep taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers.

Oooohh, scary!!

I’m skeered.//

360
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:53:21pm

re: #358 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Chair of the Texas GOP. That’s why they went all wingnut civil war on each other over Gov. Abbot’s very modest epidemic response.

Oh no, I know exactly who he is. It does amuse me that the chair of the TEXAS GOP is reaching out to a voter in MINNESOTA; I suspect they are hoping his military title will add some weight.

361
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:53:34pm

re: #357 jaunte

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Coming from the guy who sucks off the guy who calls the media the enemy of the people.

362
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:54:49pm

re: #361 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ted Cruz is incoherent. It’s all just whining now.

363
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:55:01pm

re: #360 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh no, I know exactly who he is. It does amuse me that the chair of the TEXAS GOP is reaching out to a voter in MINNESOTA; I suspect they are hoping his military title will add some weight.

Makes more sense than Nigel Farrage talking to Arizona voters. Next they’ll have Orban talking to Florida voters or Duerte talking to Pennsylvanians.

364
Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:55:11pm

re: #355 Danack

[Embedded content]

Once it’s seen, it cannot be unseen.

Extremely clever!

365
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:55:36pm

re: #362 jaunte

Ted Cruz is incoherent. It’s all just whining now.

It’s only ever been whining with that one. The only man with a more annoying voice than Trump.

366
BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:56:51pm

re: #353 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just got a text message from “Lt. Col. Allen West”. Dear God in heaven, they’re bringing out ALL the retreads.

But on the plus side, I got one earlier today from Luci Baines Johnson about GOTV in Texas—that’s a name I hadn’t heard in a long time.

This section was really moving:

On the 49th anniversary of Bloody Sunday, I held Civil Rights Leader Congressman John Lewis’s left hand while Joe Biden held his right. We walked across the Pettus Bridge together to commemorate the sacrifice made in pursuit of that right. Alas this year we lost our hero John Lewis to the scourge of cancer. But Joe Biden and I continue to walk together in pursuit of John’s dream and ours for a more perfect union.

367
John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:58:07pm

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“I think CenturyLink is still using two cans and a string”.

Yup, that’s VOIP all right.

368
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:58:28pm
369
Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 30, 2020 • 3:59:13pm
370
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:00:35pm

re: #368 jaunte

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He’s always been angry at Walz, ever since the beginning, when we told Trump “fuck you” over trying to force 3M to send all their ventilators to the federal government.

371
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:00:59pm

re: #357 jaunte

Wingnuts still going with this nonsensical thought-stopping talking point.

If Jack Dorsey wrote on Twitter that Ted Cruz’s father killed President John F. Kennedy, Ted Cruz would be in his rights to sue him for defamation regardless of their distinction without a difference. You know, like he should have done to Donald Trump.

372
Grunthos the Flatulent  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:02:11pm

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Interesting variation on the Four Yorkshiremen sketch you two are working up.

373
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:02:39pm

...

374
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:03:23pm

re: #355 Danack

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Once it’s seen, it cannot be unseen.

I completely missed it at first.

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William Lewis  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:04:47pm

If you enjoy hunting, there is a beautiful video behind the tags.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:06:24pm

re: #371 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnuts still going with this nonsensical thought-stopping talking point.

[Embedded content]

If Jack Dorsey wrote on Twitter that Ted Cruz’s father killed President John F. Kennedy, Ted Cruz would be in his rights to sue him for defamation regardless of their distinction without a difference. You know, like he should have done to Donald Trump.

I need to publish my conclusion that one Rafael Cruz is both the Zodiac killer and a Castro sympathizer. Oh? That’s slander. But what about my free speech, Ted.

377
John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:06:33pm

re: #372 Grunthos the Flatulent

Interesting variation on the Four Yorkshiremen sketch you two are working up.

Full disclosure. I actually am a Yorkshireman.

378
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:07:17pm

re: #366 BeachDem

But on the plus side, I got one earlier today from Luci Baines Johnson about GOTV in Texas—that’s a name I hadn’t heard in a long time.

This section was really moving:

On the 49th anniversary of Bloody Sunday, I held Civil Rights Leader Congressman John Lewis’s left hand while Joe Biden held his right. We walked across the Pettus Bridge together to commemorate the sacrifice made in pursuit of that right. Alas this year we lost our hero John Lewis to the scourge of cancer. But Joe Biden and I continue to walk together in pursuit of John’s dream and ours for a more perfect union.

I got that as well.,

379
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:07:46pm
380
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:08:33pm

re: #379 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Part of me wants to say there’s no way anyone could be that deluded. But…

381
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:10:22pm

re: #373 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I always upfist blank comments. +1

382
BeachDem  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:10:29pm

Looking for anything cheerful—

Madame Tussauds in Berlin Throws their Wax Trump into a Dumpster

“Today’s activity is rather of a symbolic character ahead of the elections in the United States,” said the museum’s marketing manager Orkide Yalcindag. “We here at Madame Tussauds Berlin removed Donald Trump’s waxwork as a preparatory measure.”

dailykos.com

383
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:11:38pm

re: #382 BeachDem

Looking for anything cheerful—

Madame Tussauds in Berlin Throws their Wax Trump into a Dumpster

“Today’s activity is rather of a symbolic character ahead of the elections in the United States,” said the museum’s marketing manager Orkide Yalcindag. “We here at Madame Tussauds Berlin removed Donald Trump’s waxwork as a preparatory measure.”

dailykos.com

Can we do that with the real one? I’ll pay.

384
Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:14:49pm

Check out this sign here in Rockwall:

Wtf?
385
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:15:17pm

re: #383 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Can we do that with the real one? I’ll pay.

Sure but we need to wear masks while doing so.

386
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:16:04pm

re: #385 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Sure but we need to wear masks while doing so.

I’d wear a mask around Trump even if COVID wasn’t a thing.

387
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:17:28pm

Power outage caused by squirrel temporarily shuts down Douglas County election office (Omaha World-Herald)

Before the squirrel bar-b-qued itself, there was a three-hour line to get in for early voting in Douglas County.

A power outage at the Douglas County Election Commission on Friday caused officials to temporarily shut down the office.

The outage was caused by a squirrel that had interacted with electrical equipment, according to the Omaha Power District.

But the election commissioner said that everyone who wanted to cast an early ballot will still be able to do so.

Omaha Public Power District crews restored power about 4:50 p.m. Friday afternoon to the election office at 12220 W. Center Road. However, the office’s phones and computers were still down, said Valerie Stoj, a spokeswoman.

Voters who were still in line Friday were asked to fill out forms that were expected to be processed through the afternoon and evening, said Brian Kruse, Douglas County Election Commissioner​. They were being asked to return Saturday morning to pick up their ballots at a dock on the east end of the building.

The office will be open for an extended period Saturday, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. It was originally set to close at 1 p.m. (more)

Kruse said any voters who said they could not return Saturday were going to be helped Friday evening.

388
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:17:34pm

re: #386 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’d wear a mask around Trump even if COVID wasn’t a thing.

Exactly

389
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:19:48pm
390
Belafon  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:20:06pm

re: #329 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really hate what he’s done with younger people in this country. Am I glad that they’re interested in politics? Sure but I’m not happy with how he’s sold politics to them as an all or nothing game.

I doubt the Parkland kids are listening to him.

391
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:20:26pm

re: #384 Belafon

Check out this sign here un Rockwall:

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Boy are they gonna be shocked when they find out where your Lt Governor and AG is from. And for all our downstaters hate of the “Yankee carpetbaggers”, they’re the ones who embraced the Confederate from Duluth.

392
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:20:35pm

re: #387 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Earlier in the day, facing a three-hour wait to get into the election office, Omaha injury attorney Aaron Brown dialed up Papa John’s and ordered four pizzas from his spot in line.

The pizzas were delivered to the election commission itself, but Brown eventually received his order and handed three boxes to strangers, sharing slices with some of the hundreds of other people waiting to cast their votes ahead of Election Day.

393
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:21:31pm

re: #390 Belafon

I doubt the Parkland kids are listening to him.

I hope not because he’s as shitty as most Republicans are on guns and uses racist rhetoric to justify it.

394
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:22:03pm

Cruise industry wild to kill off their customers

395
Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:22:42pm

re: #210 NetworkKed

The problem is DST works well if you’re in the middle of a timezone.

In Indiana, we’re starting to get daylight somewhere around 830 right now. IT SUCKS SO MUCH.

We used to not do DST - only have EST all year, and it worked a lot better.

Thanks, Mitch Daniels.

396
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:24:14pm

re: #394 jaunte

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Cruise industry wild to kill off their customers

I’m glad my cousin and her husband who like cruises aren’t stupid but damn is this stupid or what.

397
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:24:18pm

re: #394 jaunte

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Cruise industry wild to kill off their customers

This is why I wish we had our battleships back. Sink these fucking plague ships when they’re still 20 miles offshore.

398
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:24:37pm
399
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:25:00pm

Voted (Easy Peasy)
Turned in damaged modem to Xfinity (dog damned traffic & about damned time too)
Picked up fluorescents for the kitchen (finally)
Forgot to grab some mustard and pepper (damn it)
Crossed Dames Point Bridge, twice (SOAB)

400
Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:25:45pm
401
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:25:54pm

re: #396 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’d like to have the recordings of the lobbyists talking with Desantis.

402
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:26:37pm

re: #397 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This is why I wish we had our battleships back. Sink these fucking plague ships when they’re still 20 miles offshore.

That’s what cruise missiles are for. /s

403
Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:26:37pm

re: #387 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Squirrelicide is always hazardous to power distribution.

404
jaunte  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:27:44pm

re: #402 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thursday unrest totally calmed down by Friday after Wal-Mart ran the numbers.

405
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:28:33pm

re: #402 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s what cruise missiles are for. /s

I know, but there’s something hauntingly beautiful looking at the photographs of the Iowa-class firing a broadside.

406
John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:29:03pm

re: #392 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pineapple?

407
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:29:20pm

re: #400 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

I wonder what he likes more from autocrats, being told he’s great or their money.

408
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:31:13pm

To quote Fats Domino, ain’t that a shame?

409
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:32:24pm

👀

410
gocart mozart  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:33:41pm

re: #229 The Pie Overlord!

El Presidente

411
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:34:41pm

re: #409 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Halloween going terribly wrong I see.

412
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:34:50pm

Scientists find Madagascar chameleon last seen 100 years ago (AP, with photo of the elusive critter)

Scientists say they have found an elusive chameleon species that was last spotted in Madagascar 100 years ago.

Researchers from Madagascar and Germany said Friday that they discovered several living specimens of Voeltzkow’s chameleon during an expedition to the northwest of the African island nation.

In a report published in the journal Salamandra, the team led by scientists from the Bavarian Natural History Collections ZSM said genetic analysis determined that the species is closely related to Labord’s chameleon.

(more)

413
sagehen  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:37:15pm

re: #412 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Scientists find Madagascar chameleon last seen 100 years ago (AP, with photo of the elusive critter)

(more)

isn’t the whole point of chameleons that they’re hard to see?

414
John Hughes  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:37:38pm

re: #412 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, duh. It’s a chameleon.

Happy news.

415
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:37:44pm

re: #398 jaunte

The replies to those posts follow an all too familiar pattern.

Specifically, like in climate change graphs, those who want to deny reality look at every little squiggle and try to make a case for their own beliefs.

E.g., one can look at a smoothing curve of deaths and conclude that deaths have leveled off. But only if compared to a single week (last week, in which there was a noticeable spike on one day, a reporting anomaly.)

416
bmoak  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:38:33pm

re: #356 BeachDem

Found it on their website—

GARY PETERS - MICHIGAN
Gary Peters (D-MI) has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood Action Fund and has fought to keep taxpayer dollars going to Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers.

Oooohh, scary!!

Didn’t his wife nearly die from an ectopic pregnancy that the religion-affiliated hospital they went to refused to abort?

417
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:39:19pm
418
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:40:00pm

re: #416 bmoak

Didn’t his wife nearly die from an ectopic pregnancy that the religion-affiliated hospital they went to refused to abort?

Yes.

419
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:40:01pm

re: #417 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Good. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

420
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:41:01pm

re: #417 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

Lucky you Minnesota, he’s never going back to your state again. If only my state was so lucky but one of his favorite golf clubs is here.

421
Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:41:49pm

re: #417 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Apparently, the state put their foot down on the number of participants.

422
Jay C  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:41:49pm

re: #417 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

“Trump is already done in Minnesota”

I know there was more context following, but that lede made me smile…. :)

423
Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:42:22pm

re: #420 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Lucky you Minnesota, he’s never going back to your state again. If only my state was so lucky but one of his favorite golf clubs is here.

We’ll still have to deal with Republican asshattery, especially in the circles I run in, but it’ll be nice never to have to deal with the tangerine wankmaggot ever again.

424
b.d.  Oct 30, 2020 • 4:47:35pm

re: #412 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Scientists find Madagascar chameleon last seen 100 years ago (AP, with photo of the elusive critter)

(more)

Are they sure that it wasn’t a regular chameleon trying to look like an extinct one?

425
steve_davis  Oct 30, 2020 • 5:11:50pm

re: #99 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If anyone can run up the score in the Philly metro, it’s Joe.

setting up a kitchen is expensive. i’ve lived in cheap rental housing before. refrigerators are not dependable, which means you are taking a chance keeping more than 20 bucks’ worth of food in one. counter space is typically minimal. it easily cost a thousand bucks to set up a kitchen in terms of pots, pans, utensils. Fuck, I just 300 bucks on a bread maker. it’s possible to make bread without one, but it’s damned tedious and it’s still not all that cheap. it’s hours of idle time proofing stuff, then oven time, cooling time, etc. If you’re a stay-at-home, you can do it. If you’re working a couple of full-time jobs because you’re getting paid 7 bucks an hour, good luck.

426
steve_davis  Oct 30, 2020 • 5:17:15pm

re: #118 i(m)p(each)sos

I’ve been spending a lot of time staring at PA election results from 2016, and the longer and harder I stare at them, the more I realize just what a fluke it was that Trump pulled out an EC win at all.

A smidge more turnout in Philadelphia and Clinton would have won the state.

Less active third-party candidates (Johnson got 146,715 votes, Stein got 49,941, and Trump won by 44,292 votes) and Clinton might well have won the state.

It was the narrowest possible way Trump could have squeaked in, and then he somehow ran the table and did it the same way in Michigan and Wisconsin.

The factors are so different this year. I have a lot of confidence that Trump cannot repeat what he did in 2016.

msnbc is wringing its hands about trump having a “massive red wave” on election day. they seem to forget that democrats are actually going to be voting on election day as well, and they’re certainly motivated.

427
steve_davis  Oct 30, 2020 • 5:51:11pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

well, without knowing the context, there’s a 50% chance I’d agree with him.

428
steve_davis  Oct 30, 2020 • 6:02:04pm

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

I finally got my electricity back about an hour ago. Yard still needs a decent bit of work and I’ve probably lost $100 of food in my fridge but could have been a lot worse.

same here. i didn’t lose a hundred bucks’ worth, but I’d just driven all the damned way to Seneca because the boar’s head lady told me they still got olive loaf, and the next day, power went out. I decided 25 bucks’ worth of food wasn’t worth chancing food poisoning over, so almost everything went.

429
steve_davis  Oct 30, 2020 • 6:25:21pm

re: #403 Eric The Fruit Bat

Squirrelicide is always hazardous to power distribution.

In 2020, does anyone really blame them?


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Nduduzo Makhathini - UmlothaMusic video by Nduduzo Makhathini performing Umlotha. © 2020 Universal Music (Pty) Ltd South Africa vevo.ly
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Brian Eno - Decline and Fall (From ‘O Nome Da Morte’) The official music video for "Decline and Fall”, a track from the new album “Film Music 1976 - 2020”, is a cinematic collaboration between Brian Eno and acclaimed Brazilian film director Henrique Goldman which contemplates rain and fire, fiction ...
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Brian Eno - Like I Was a Spectator 'Like I Was A Spectator', a brand new track by Brian Eno with Daniel Lanois and Roger Eno from ‘Apollo – Atmospheres & Soundtracks – Extended Edition’. The video was created using rare N.A.S.A. footage.Order now: brianeno.lnk.to Follow Brian ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201115After two really sunny and swell days since Eta left, Saturday was a mix of mostly sun and a bit of rain.We still managed to be really productive both days anyway. Got all the lava rock washed and shoveled into ...
dangerman
6 days, 23 hours ago
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Michael Kiwanuka - Solid Ground (Live at the V&A) Listen to the Mercury Prize winning album ’KIWANUKA' now: michaelkiwanuka.lnk.to Michael Kiwanuka performing Solid Ground taken from the Mercury Prize winning album 'KIWANUKA' live at the Victoria & Albert museum in London. Sign up to Michael's mailing list: michaelkiwanuka.lnk.toFollow ...
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1 week, 1 day ago
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Deep Sea Diver - Impossible Weight Featuring Sharon Van Etten (Official Video) “Impossible Weight” off Deep Sea Diver’s new album 'Impossible Weight' out now. Order 'Impossible Weight' here smarturl.it Distributed by ATO Records ~~~~~~~~~ Directors: Jessica Dobson, Peter Mansen, Tyler KalbergArt direction: Jessica Dobson, Tyler KalbergDirector of photography: Tyler KalbergCamera operator ...
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1 week, 1 day ago
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Black Pumas - ‘I’m Ready’ (Timelapse Mural Video) Artist: Aaron Darling Videographer/Editor: Don RayFilmed at: Native Hostel - Austin, TXSong: Black Pumas - I'm Ready “I'm Ready” is available on the deluxe edition of the Black Pumas’ debut album, out everywhere now - smarturl.it "I'm Ready" (Official ...
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1 week, 2 days ago
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Jackie Venson on Austin City Limits ‘Back to Earth’ Jackie Venson performs "Back to Earth" on Austin City Limits. Her episode premieres November 14, 2020 on PBS. Check your local listings for details. About the EpisodeEnjoy innovative Austin rock & roll from Jackie Venson, plus a vintage 2012 ...
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1 week, 2 days ago
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201108 Saturday we started washing lava rock then Eta came in with the fury of a tropical storm. Something ironic about getting out of the rain while we were getting soaked from the power washer.Electricity and all we thought it ...
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1 week, 4 days ago
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David Bowie - the Man Who Sold the World [2020 Mix] [Official Lyric Video] Official lyric video for David Bowie's The Man Who Sold The World [2020 Mix]. Order Metrobolist on CD and LP now: lnk.to Subscribe now: bit.ly Read more about David Bowie's 'The Man Who Sold The World' and how it ...
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1 week, 6 days ago
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