The Bob Cesca Podcast: 15 Days a Week

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

15 Days A Week — [Explicit Language] A Rocky Mountain Mike tribute to Buzz Burbank; Buzz talks about his impending retirement from his podcast; Trump admitted Biden won; Rudy will represent Trump in Pennsylvania; Lindsey Graham is violating Senate ethics rules; Trump probably has kompromat on Lindsey; GSA chief Emily Murphy is job hunting; Michigan Republicans trying to impeach Gretchen Whitmer; Bob and Buzz disagree on investigations and calling out the Red Hats; With music by Rocky Mountain Mike, Freekbass and Astral Summer; and more!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:29:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:29:09pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:29:53pm

Mitch, the quicker you quit breathing my oxygen the better.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:30:07pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Whaddya wanna bet that tweet is the first former Director Krebs knew of his termination?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:31:14pm

Thank you for the new thread. My phone can’t keep up after about #350.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:32:21pm

Trump & his cult are going total Scorched Earth. They will fuck up everything they possibly can between now and 1/20/2021

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lawhawk  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:32:21pm
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Schweppes7  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:33:04pm

re: #4 thedopefishlives

That is almost a certainty. That said I am also confident that he knew he would likely be fired the moment he wrote that report saying the election was secure and specifically debunking the president’s lies.

I do wonder if there is literally anything Trump could do, be it fire someone or take some action that would lead Republicans to dump him en masse. I am not confident that there is….. What a depressing state of affairs.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:33:25pm

I think that it is kind of cool that 1/20/2021 is a numeric palindrome. We should enjoy these fleeting moments when we can.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:33:46pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:35:13pm

re: #8 Schweppes7

That is almost a certainty. That said I am also confident that he knew he would likely be fired the moment he wrote that report saying the election was secure and specifically debunking the president’s lies.

I do wonder if there is literally anything Trump could do, be it fire someone or take some action that would lead Republicans to dump him en masse. I am not confident that there is….. What a depressing state of affairs.

Trump nuking a major American city is about the only thing I can think of that might shake his GOP support in the Senate, but much would depend on the details there.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:35:59pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

Trump nuking a major American city is about the only thing I can think of that might shake his GOP support in the Senate, but much would depend on the details there.

If he nukes Philly, Detroit, Minneapolis, or any of California’s beautiful cities, they’d probably applaud.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:37:35pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:40:04pm

THREAD on the fuckery in Nevada:

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:40:13pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He’d be the life of Tuktoyaktuk.

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EPR-radar  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:42:03pm

re: #12 thedopefishlives

If he nukes Philly, Detroit, Minneapolis, or any of California’s beautiful cities, they’d probably applaud.

Any GOP senators who lost relatives in such an event would at least need large bribes to continue supporting Trump, as opposed to their normal instinct to do it for free.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:42:06pm

re: #15 jaunte

He’d be the life of Tuktoyaktuk.

Yeah, he’s got enough fat on him to light the village for a month and they could certainly scavenge enough meat in there somewhere for at least a week.

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marcusgorillius  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:42:36pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

I hope sometime, somewhere in the future Trump and his enablers get their due justice. Maybe they can all die or be disabled with COVID. America needs to be cleansed of the scourge known as the GOP.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:43:15pm
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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:44:24pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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If nobody follows through on his tweets will he know?

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:44:34pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:44:37pm

re: #9 The Pie Overlord!

I think that it is kind of cool that 1/20/2021 is a numeric palindrome. We should enjoy these fleeting moments when we can.

I knew there was some reason I was waiting for that day.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:46:56pm
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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:48:03pm
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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:49:22pm
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PrairieQueen  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:50:20pm

re: #7 lawhawk

A lot of decent people died of COVID, that mattered, that are missed by other decent people who loved them. I don’t count Weinstein in that group. Don’t care. In fact, the sooner, the better.

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Schweppes7  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:51:27pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:54:34pm

re: #27 Schweppes7

Imagine if Obama lost in 2012 by 6,000,000 votes, spent weeks claiming he won but the race was stolen, flirted with seizing electors in states he lost and then someone who’d tweeted “the right is crazy” helped try to block vote certification in a heavily red county.

All over the country, we depend on having Dem and GOP election officials who are at least as honest as a Little League coach. It almost always works.

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PrairieQueen  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:58:33pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

I know a former Little League coach spending 21 years in federal prison for bilking investors. Used to hide behind baseball, good old fashioned conservative values, and religion, to con people. This predates Trump, but they’re very similar in their behaviors. Both bullies, shameless liars, and grifters, and surrounded themselves with other cons running on the same platform.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2020 • 4:59:51pm

re: #29 PrairieQueen

I know a former Little League coach spending 21 years in federal prison for bilking investors. Used to hide behind baseball, good old fashioned conservative values, and religion, to con people. This predates Trump, but they’re very similar in their behaviors. Both bullies, shameless liars, and grifters, and surrounded themselves with other cons running on the same platform.

Yeah, but would he throw a game?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:03:48pm

re: #24 jaunte

Her Twitter feed is a Dumpster fire of derp as well.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:04:29pm

Looks like he was planning to do this even while the election was called. Isn’t this, oh I dunno, like, ILLEGAL?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:05:06pm
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PrairieQueen  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:05:16pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

I don’t know, didn’t follow his illustrious baseball career. But I do know many people that lost their homes, savings and retirements to him because they believed his all-American bullshit.

Thing is, his stuff was as obviously dishonest as Trump’s, but people want to believe their favorite con.

Thing is with GOPs, it’s okay when it happens to someone else.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:11:02pm
Construction has begun on Omaha’s new $101 million riverfront science center, which now has a name: Kiewit Luminarium.

Luminarium appears to be rooted in the word illuminate, and that’s just what community leaders hope the new science center will do: shine light on subjects like science, technology, engineering and math, and perhaps inspire the next generation of STEM workers in Omaha.

“The wonder that comes from a name like that is the kind of wonder we’re trying to inspire in this place,” said Trent Demulling, an executive at Omaha’s Kiewit construction company who is chairing the board of the new nonprofit that will build and operate the center.

The ground-breaking ceremony for Omaha’s privately funded science museum — set to open at Lewis & Clark Landing in 2023 — was scheduled to be held on Monday.

But concerns over the state’s fast-rising coronavirus numbers led organizers to call off the ceremony. Instead, they provided new information on the project, including its name and details on some of its signature exhibits.

(more, with drawings of what it should look like when completed)

omaha.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:11:49pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:13:23pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:14:08pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

All over the country, we depend on having Dem and GOP election officials who are at least as honest as a Little League coach. It almost always works.

True, but it is also true that a major lesson learned by the GOP from the 2020 election is to make sure every Republican official everywhere is as corrupt as the DC Republicans.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:15:02pm

The other GOP canvasser in Detroit:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:18:35pm

re: #18 marcusgorillius

I hope sometime, somewhere in the future Trump and his enablers get their due justice. Maybe they can all die or be disabled with COVID. America needs to be cleansed of the scourge known as the GOP.

They’re working on it as I type.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:18:40pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is some fucked up shit.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:19:07pm
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Florida Panhandler  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:19:26pm

re: #37 The Pie Overlord!

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A General Strike is always in the cards if these nutjobs don’t certify.

$Billions of dollars lost from unbuilt and unsold cars would give Billionaire Republican investors a sad.

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BeachDem  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:21:10pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

All over the country, we depend on having Dem and GOP election officials who are at least as honest as a Little League coach. It almost always works.

And then there are the Boy Scouts—

At least 92,000 have filed sex abuse claims against the Boy Scouts, legal team says

Sex abuse in the BSA was an “unspoken norm,” according to Van Arsdale, one of the lead attorneys who says he has communicated with thousands of alleged survivors over the past 19 months.

“Based on what we are hearing from survivors, sexual abuse was a rite of passage in troops across the country, similar to other tasks where children had to … perform certain duties to earn their coveted merit badges,” he said in a statement.

cnn.com

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:21:43pm

And now the PA Supreme Court hands DT another failure.
whyy.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:22:38pm

re: #41 GlutenFreeJesus

This is some fucked up shit.

She was also involved in an ethics violation a few weeks ago which should have had her removed from the canvassing board.

“Monica Palmer should resign or be removed for her conflicts of interest as Chairperson of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, which certifies elections, and her operation of a dark money PAC promoting candidates in the Grosse Pointe school board election,” says Thomas Bruetsch, attorney at the Detroit law firm of Schenk & Bruetsch.

“Palmer’s involvement in the PAC is incompatible with her public office, violates the county’s ethics ordinance, and undermines voters’ confidence in the free and fair elections she is charged with overseeing.”

Canvassers chair faces ethics complaint tied to Grosse Pointe school race (October 30)

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lawhawk  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:23:39pm

re: #44 BeachDem

And then there are the Boy Scouts—

At least 92,000 have filed sex abuse claims against the Boy Scouts, legal team says

Sex abuse in the BSA was an “unspoken norm,” according to Van Arsdale, one of the lead attorneys who says he has communicated with thousands of alleged survivors over the past 19 months.

“Based on what we are hearing from survivors, sexual abuse was a rite of passage in troops across the country, similar to other tasks where children had to … perform certain duties to earn their coveted merit badges,” he said in a statement.
cnn.com

Bankrupt them and distribute the proceeds to the victims.

The entity deserves the death penalty. Permanently. Same as with the Catholic Church. They knew and hid this for decades. They had complicit coverups with local officials that ignored all the evidence until it was so pervasive and overwhelming that they eventually acted.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:23:40pm

re: #44 BeachDem

I would be fine with the Boy Scouts dying in a fire.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:27:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:31:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:31:35pm

Nebraska statewide surpasses 100,000 cases today.

experience.arcgis.com

Total cases: 101,601 (+3,440, new record, surpassing the previous record set Nov. 5)
Doubled since October 9
Daily active hospitalisations: 938 (+21, new record, surpassing the previous record yesterday)
Recovered: 54,095
Deaths: 797 (+18)

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:33:02pm

re: #49 Dread Pirate Ron

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She’s got a level head on her shoulders.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:33:42pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:33:47pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more, with drawings of what it should look like when completed)

omaha.com

Will there be cavemen riding dinosaurs?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:34:46pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

How could anyone think this is a real Twitter warning? But they do!

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Jack Burton  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:36:39pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

How could anyone think this is a real Twitter warning? But they do!

Most of these people think Noah’s Ark was an actual thing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:37:16pm

I have to confess I am experiencing high levels of anxiety due to these GOP efforts to reverse the results of the election. The only thing helping in the infamous 3 states (WI, MI, PA) is that the governors are Democrats, but the legislatures are Republican and there is no perfidy that is beyond their capacity. The FB Trumpster with whom I engaged a couple days ago was very certain that the election results would not stand and it appears that he may have been aware that throughout this nation members of the GOP are diligently working to destroy our Constitution and impose a white supremacist autocracy on all who remain here.

Someone talk me down from the ledge.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:39:31pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:40:01pm

re: #57 Hecuba’s daughter

You are not the only one. I am having higher levels of anxiety due to the fact that the state and the city have not completely shut down. I understand why they do not want to do it but I think it will come to that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:40:32pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

How could anyone think this is a real Twitter warning? But they do!

Does this surprise you in a nation which has widespread belief in QAnon? Sarcasm, humor, irony do not go over well among the vast majority of our citizens.

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stpaulbear  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:40:49pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She was also involved in an ethics violation a few weeks ago which should have had her removed from the canvassing board.

Canvassers chair faces ethics complaint tied to Grosse Pointe school race (October 30)

She wanted to be famous, and she’s going to get her wish.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:45:16pm
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plansbandc  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:48:21pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Our country is getting overrun by profoundly stupid people.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:48:31pm

re: #57 Hecuba’s daughter

I have to confess I am experiencing high levels of anxiety due to these GOP efforts to reverse the results of the election. The only thing helping in the infamous 3 states (WI, MI, PA) is that the governors are Democrats, but the legislatures are Republican and there is no perfidy that is beyond their capacity. The FB Trumpster with whom I engaged a couple days ago was very certain that the election results would not stand and it appears that he may have been aware that throughout this nation members of the GOP are diligently working to destroy our Constitution and impose a white supremacist autocracy on all who remain here.

Someone talk me down from the ledge.

Would you please come down off that ledge?

But yeah, I’m anxious as fuck, because Trump seems to be coming apart at the seams and it’s not something you ever want to see in a president of the US and it’s fucking scary.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:52:45pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:53:29pm

re: #65 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Yay. Go Joe Go. :)

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:55:42pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

It’s good that Republicans keep getting exposed for the racists they are. So glad that Trump lost so they don’t have anyone in our White House.

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stpaulbear  Nov 17, 2020 • 5:57:37pm

I’m watching a guy from Biden’s covid team being interviewed on MSNBC. He’s talking about how the team needs to see and coordinate with Trump’s current vaccination distribution plans. I’m hoping that they’re prepared for the realization that Trump doesn’t have any plans for the vaccination other than claiming credit for it and selling it to their buddies. Behind the scenes they must already know that they’ll find nothing but failure.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:01:23pm

re: #44 BeachDem

And then there are the Boy Scouts—

At least 92,000 have filed sex abuse claims against the Boy Scouts, legal team says

Sex abuse in the BSA was an “unspoken norm,” according to Van Arsdale, one of the lead attorneys who says he has communicated with thousands of alleged survivors over the past 19 months.

“Based on what we are hearing from survivors, sexual abuse was a rite of passage in troops across the country, similar to other tasks where children had to … perform certain duties to earn their coveted merit badges,” he said in a statement.

cnn.com

It was an open secret back in the 60s about sexual abuse in the Boy Scouts which is why Mom and Dad FORBADE me to even think about being a scout.

But then the boys in gym class would talk about the priests they knew to stay away from.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:02:07pm

re: #68 stpaulbear

Joe and his people know this and they are making a gesture toward DT and his group.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:05:14pm

Today’s Covid numbers, missing LA County and Nebraska. Approximately 5000 cases and 25 deaths missing. Graphs and totals will probably be different in the morning.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:05:50pm

re: #57 Hecuba’s daughter

I have to confess I am experiencing high levels of anxiety due to these GOP efforts to reverse the results of the election. The only thing helping in the infamous 3 states (WI, MI, PA) is that the governors are Democrats, but the legislatures are Republican and there is no perfidy that is beyond their capacity. The FB Trumpster with whom I engaged a couple days ago was very certain that the election results would not stand and it appears that he may have been aware that throughout this nation members of the GOP are diligently working to destroy our Constitution and impose a white supremacist autocracy on all who remain here.

Someone talk me down from the ledge.

The breaking point is going to come.

Republicans have overplayed their hand and they are going to pay for their crimes.

The JCS may have to step in, Wall Street may have to step in, the UN may step in, Europe may step in but something will step in to take Trump and the Republican Party out.

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Citizen K  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:07:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:07:24pm
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plansbandc  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:09:22pm

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Jack Burton  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:09:32pm

re: #72 🌹UOJB!

The breaking point is going to come.

Republicans have overplayed their hand and they are going to pay for their crimes.

The JCS may have to step in, Wall Street may have to step in, the UN may step in, Europe may step in but something will step in to take Trump and the Republican Party out.

I’m not sure what anyone other than maybe the JCS can do and if that’s even a good idea precedent-wise.

*Everyone* needs to be serious as a heart attack about a General Strike if Electoral College is either ignored or fucked with.

It shouldn’t be hard to stay the fuck home… you know… *now*

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Decatur Deb  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:09:43pm

Roll, Tide.

Alabama Sorority Cancels 600-Person Farm Party After Daily Beast Story on ‘Superspreader’ Uproar

“Alcohol will be served, but we’re expecting them to wear their masks,” said Katie Sandlin, a 33-year-old biologist who works at the university-affiliated Genomics Education Partnership. “Are you serious? Do you know college students? Do you see how they behave at football games? Come on now, get real.”

thedailybeast.com

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SerialUpDinger  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:09:59pm

Thank God for the good people…..
from the WAPO
washingtonpost.com
On Sunday, March 11, 1945, as his infantry unit paused in Acht, Germany, to prepare for the dangerous crossings of two rivers, the Moselle and the Main, a slender, bespectacled captain and former violinist in the Kansas City Philharmonic found a typewriter and wrote a letter to his son.

The captain, my father, had landed on Utah Beach on June 8, fought in Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge and been awarded two Purple Hearts, two Silver Stars and a Bronze Star with a “V” for valor. As he sat at the typewriter, I was in Kansas, only four months old. Although the end of the war seemed to be in sight, he was undoubtedly aware that he might not live to see me.

He did not mail his letter but put it with his personal effects, knowing it would be safely shipped to my mother should he be killed. The letter remained in his personal papers until my younger sister found it in the spring of 2019.

I wept when I read it.Link

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thecommodore  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:10:58pm

In light of this evening’s events, Biden would be out of his skull to avoid any Trump investigations.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:12:37pm

re: #73 Citizen K

I see why Ken Vogel had a blocking party today. He blocked Josh Marshall and others. Now I get it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:13:26pm
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Belafon  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:14:25pm

re: #79 thecommodore

In light of this evening’s events, Biden would be out of his skull to avoid any Trump investigations.

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He said he’s wary, but he said he’d leave it up to an independent DOJ.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:14:26pm

re: #79 thecommodore

In light of this evening’s events, Biden would be out of his skull to avoid any Trump investigations.

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Joe can stay above the fray while the AG should charge ahead with tons of indictments, ruing having to do it. The independent judiciary gets a much needed boost, justice gets a much needed boost, the rule of law gets a much needed boost and democracy gets a much needed boost.

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Citizen K  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:15:13pm

re: #80 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I see why Ken Vogel had a blocking party today. He blocked Josh Marshall and others. Now I get it.

He manages to outdo Maggie Haberman and others at the Times for having the thinnest of thin skin, on top of having the biggest case of tunnel vision forever, where no matter what happens, the GOP is held overly accountable and Dems never held accountable enough.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:17:56pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:18:41pm

It’s stupid Tuesday.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:19:51pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:19:59pm

re: #57 Hecuba’s daughter

What makes me feel better is that they sent Rudy fucking Giuliani into court. They are floundering, flailing, and failing. Where are they now, zero for 22? If any of their bullshit shenanigans had any chance of prevailing, they would have been able to secure better counsel. The fact that they are relying on the Clown Squad instead of talented litigators means a) their case is shit and b) they are relying on counsel that would be able to still fail spectacularly even with a much stronger case (or just a coherent one…)

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:20:37pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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I don’t think we can, Bob, but at the very least, I don’t know if there’s anything meaningful they can do with only 65 days before inauguration. Government action moves slow, which is a blessing in this case.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:21:16pm

Twitter did their thing.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:21:17pm
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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:21:34pm

Ranting racist maniac.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:21:43pm

re: #54 Decatur Deb

Will there be cavemen riding dinosaurs?

That’s Ken Ham’s thing in Kentucky. This is a science museum. They are working with a science museum in California to help them with interactive displays and accuracy.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:22:03pm

re: #91 jaunte

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SHUT THE FUCK UP, DONNIE! You’re out of your element!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:23:01pm

re: #87 HRH Stanley Sea

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The evil fuckers blinked.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:24:15pm

My congress person:

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:24:41pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:25:06pm

re: #97 jaunte

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Clever girl.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:25:29pm

re: #61 stpaulbear

She wanted to be famous, and she’s going to get her wish.

I imagine two Republican canvassers trying to disenfranchise the largest city in Michigan are not in a safe position tonight. I don’t condone violence, but I can see it happening.

Someone suggested rolling up outside her house and playing Lawrence Welk on blast day and night.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:25:31pm
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thecommodore  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:25:52pm

re: #90 The Pie Overlord!

Twitter did their thing.

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Thank God!

Meanwhile, Fat Donnie’s a little slow on the uptake.

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garzooma  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:26:09pm

re: #83 b.d. (We Won!)

Joe can stay above the fray while the AG should charge ahead with tons of indictments, ruing having to do it. The independent judiciary gets a much needed boost, justice gets a much needed boost, the rule of law gets a much needed boost and democracy gets a much needed boost.

Josh Marshall at TPM had an article reiterating a point he made before about how what we really need is an executive branch audit, since:

1.) We don’t know what happened, so we’re better off reserving judgement until we find out.
2.) It’s bad for the President to be directing the Justice Department
3.) The Justice Department is the wrong tool, since it’s concerned with prosecutable crimes and is designed to not divulge findings of non-criminal bad acts.

The executive branch needs an audit. And now it should get it. It’s not the President’s place to tell the DOJ who to prosecute, though he will set the tone there. That’s the real point of this NBC article. Biden wants to get out of the business of using the DOJ as a weapon, as he should. First, find out what happened. After that things will become more clear.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:26:47pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I imagine two Republican canvassers trying to disenfranchise the largest city in Michigan are not in a safe position tonight. I don’t condone violence, but I can see it happening.

Someone suggested rolling up outside her house and playing Lawrence Welk on blast day and night.

It’s Detroit. There are few places I would want to piss off a large proportion of the voting population, and Detroit is near the bottom of the list.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:30:15pm

Push them back.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:30:19pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I imagine two Republican canvassers trying to disenfranchise the largest city in Michigan are not in a safe position tonight. I don’t condone violence, but I can see it happening.

Someone suggested rolling up outside her house and playing Lawrence Welk on blast day and night.

Welcome to the Jungle.

That’s what we did for Noriega, right?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:30:25pm

Still behind the 8-ball

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Belafon  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:30:50pm

re: #87 HRH Stanley Sea

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Did not match what?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:31:52pm

re: #45 PhillyPretzel

And now the PA Supreme Court hands DT another failure.
whyy.org

The NPR station in Alliance is back on the air in our area.

A 100-foot antenna fell from the tower in 2015, and fell 1,500 feet, destroying it.

It has now been replaced, and we have NPR here again.

netnebraska.org

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:32:03pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:32:12pm

re: #102 garzooma

Josh Marshall at TPM had an article reiterating a point he made before about how what we really need is an executive branch audit, since:

1.) We don’t know what happened, so we’re better off reserving judgement until we find out.
2.) It’s bad for the President to be directing the Justice Department
3.) The Justice Department is the wrong tool, since it’s concerned with prosecutable crimes and is designed to not divulge findings of non-criminal bad acts.

GITMO!

Useful since the REPUBLICANS refused to close it.

Treason and GITMO goes together like ham and eggs, PB&J, or for mah southern peeps, chicken and waffles.

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retired cynic  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:32:30pm

re: #9 The Pie Overlord!

I think that it is kind of cool that 1/20/2021 is a numeric palindrome. We should enjoy these fleeting moments when we can.

A palindrome, and my birthday. I get to celebrate (or not) each inauguration day.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:33:09pm

re: #110 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

GITMO!

Useful since the REPUBLICANS refused to close it.

Treason and GITMO goes together like ham and eggs, PB&J, or for mah southern peeps, chicken and waffles.

As a northerner, chicken and waffles is delicious, but weird. I also enjoyed having grits; I like mine savory, with cheese and butter.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:33:43pm
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thecommodore  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:33:44pm

re: #102 garzooma

Josh Marshall at TPM had an article reiterating a point he made before about how what we really need is an executive branch audit, since:

1.) We don’t know what happened, so we’re better off reserving judgement until we find out.
2.) It’s bad for the President to be directing the Justice Department
3.) The Justice Department is the wrong tool, since it’s concerned with prosecutable crimes and is designed to not divulge findings of non-criminal bad acts.

I only worry about it because there were no prosecutions of the Bush administration over torture, as well as of the banksters responsible for the crash in ‘08. Meanwhile, the GOP got more corrupt, unhinged, and dangerous.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:36:19pm

re: #114 thecommodore

Would it be enough to just expose all of it? I think part of what lets the GOP get away with it is that they think nobody will ever find out.

Applying a healthy dose of sunshine followed by laws intended to prevent such things, and then daring the GOP to vote against it, might be enough to put some teeth in the rules and discourage future occurances.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:36:56pm
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jamesfirecat  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:37:18pm

re: #115 Schroedinger’s Dog

Would it be enough to just expose all of it? I think part of what lets the GOP get away with it is that they think nobody will ever find out.

Applying a healthy dose of sunshine followed by laws intended to prevent such things, and then daring the GOP to vote against it, might be enough to put some teeth in the rules and discourage future occurances.

I want my [Nazi] scalps.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:37:43pm
119
Schroedinger's Dog  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:38:32pm

re: #117 jamesfirecat

I want my [Nazi] scalps.

I want to see all of them in prison for decades, but unless we make this kind of behavior completely unacceptable, it won’t fix anything. We take scalps we make them martyrs.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:39:54pm

This really points out a major problem right now. part of the population will tolerate any kind of behavior as long as it was one of theirs what done it.

Until we can return things to a baseline of ethical behavior, then we are going to see somebody try this again, and next time they won’t be quite as venal and stupid as Trump was. I fear for our future once that happens.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:40:46pm

re: #97 jaunte

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Sadly this is saying it in a better way than I ever could.

We have 2 parties and 1 of them is ok in ignoring every rule, law and norm that this country was built upon.

Once you break those rules there is no going back. The GOP is willing to flush the entire American experiment, including every life given in defense of democracy, to protect Donald Trump.

Let that sink in…..

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plansbandc  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:41:25pm

I never considered we would ever have a “president” who truly hates this country.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:41:25pm

re: #119 Schroedinger’s Dog

I want to see all of them in prison for decades, but unless we make this kind of behavior completely unacceptable, it won’t fix anything. We take scalps we make them martyrs.

To clarify, I was speaking metaphorically in opposition to the idea of just instituting firmer laws and revealing what they’d done, I want to see them all in prison for decades /the rest of their lives also rather than anything more extrajudicial in nature.

Your post 115 talked about exposing what they did, creating new laws, but not any actual punishment.

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EPR-radar  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:42:04pm

re: #57 Hecuba’s daughter

I have to confess I am experiencing high levels of anxiety due to these GOP efforts to reverse the results of the election. The only thing helping in the infamous 3 states (WI, MI, PA) is that the governors are Democrats, but the legislatures are Republican and there is no perfidy that is beyond their capacity. The FB Trumpster with whom I engaged a couple days ago was very certain that the election results would not stand and it appears that he may have been aware that throughout this nation members of the GOP are diligently working to destroy our Constitution and impose a white supremacist autocracy on all who remain here.

Someone talk me down from the ledge.

I think the solidest point to make against the likelihood of the GOP state legislatures in these states stealing their states’ electoral votes for Trump is their public statements that the will of the voters in their states will prevail. This has been said at least in PA.

Now of course since these people are Republicans, we have to take the possibility they are lying very seriously. If they are lying, the plan is obviously to do a last minute “shock and awe” substitution of the electors in multiple states just before the EC vote on Dec 6. IMO that scenario ends up with GOP legislators getting their guts yanked out by angry mobs, and I think they know that.

IMO if they were going to switch electors, they would be talking it up as a real possibility to give time for their enablers in the media to normalize the idea. God knows that works too damn well in nearly all cases. That’s not happening.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:42:09pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Roll, Tide.

Alabama Sorority Cancels 600-Person Farm Party After Daily Beast Story on ‘Superspreader’ Uproar

thedailybeast.com

From that article this little tidbit about halfway down:

Pulmonologist and critical care doctor David Thrasher, who is based in Montgomery, Alabama, had a similar view of the danger: “It doesn’t take but one mistake to get critically ill or die.”

“I’m treating a person right now who was going to have a four-person event outside, and it rained, and they held it indoors, and now they’re critically ill,” Thrasher told The Daily Beast.

(my emphasis)

People will justify why “their” Thanksgiving gathering is perfectly fine though.

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Jay C  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:42:13pm

re: #65 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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86-13% ? Gee, ya think maybe Philadelphia just isn’t Trump Country….???

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:42:48pm

Just in case you wanted details.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:43:07pm

re: #122 plansbandc

I never considered we would ever have a “president” who truly hates this country.

Nobody did, which is why he got away with it. I have to believe that if we thought somebody would be this corrupt and stupid, there would have been laws on the books already.

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thecommodore  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:43:27pm

re: #115 Schroedinger’s Dog

Would it be enough to just expose all of it? I think part of what lets the GOP get away with it is that they think nobody will ever find out.

Applying a healthy dose of sunshine followed by laws intended to prevent such things, and then daring the GOP to vote against it, might be enough to put some teeth in the rules and discourage future occurances.

The Mueller and Senate Reports into Russian interference in the 2016 election detailed the Trump campaign’s involvement in all of that, as well as Trump’s attempts to obstruct and even end the probes, and thanks in part to William Barr, GOPers just sneered and gloated, “NO COLLUSION NO OBSTRUCTION!!!!.

A serious price must be paid for all this shit!

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EPR-radar  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:43:33pm

re: #117 jamesfirecat

I want my [Nazi] scalps.

I’ll settle for the Inglorious Basterds approach for Nazi identification.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:44:14pm

re: #122 plansbandc

He’s disordered. He hates the whole world.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:44:24pm

re: #113 jaunte

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So Donnie still is paying attention

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:45:57pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:46:48pm

re: #128 Schroedinger’s Dog

Nobody did, which is why he got away with it. I have to believe that if we thought somebody would be this corrupt and stupid, there would have been laws on the books already.

Laws are basically meaningless for Republicans unless the political will exists to change this sorry state of affairs.

Hopefully we see that will in action starting Jan 2021.

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garzooma  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:47:12pm

re: #115 Schroedinger’s Dog

Would it be enough to just expose all of it? I think part of what lets the GOP get away with it is that they think nobody will ever find out.

The aforementioned Josh Marshall article addresses this:

When President Biden becomes President he will inherit all the documentary records of the last four years. All the people who continue to staff the government will answer to and work for him. Just as importantly, all the powers and invocations of privilege will translate from Donald Trump to Joe Biden. Former Presidents have zero say in claims of privilege or secrecy. What has been extended to them in the past is purely a courtesy of the current occupant of the office. That puts the real and critical power of finding out what happened into Biden’s hands.

re: #115 Schroedinger’s Dog

Applying a healthy dose of sunshine followed by laws intended to prevent such things, and then daring the GOP to vote against it, might be enough to put some teeth in the rules and discourage future occurances.

I’m surprised the Democratic House didn’t pass a law criminalizing the BridgeGate abuses of power, if only to see if the GOP Senate would dare to block it.

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EPR-radar  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:48:14pm

re: #131 jaunte

He’s disordered. He hates the whole world.

To be a little more precise, Trump loves himself and thinks he is literally the only thing that exists. That means the rest of the universe gets short shrift, but that’s not his problem.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:49:12pm
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PrairieQueen  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:49:33pm

re: #122 plansbandc

I never considered we would ever have a “president” who truly hates this country.

I remember the Right maintained Obama hated the United States. So technically, this would be a repeat.//

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:50:33pm

re: #76 Jack Burton

I’m not sure what anyone other than maybe the JCS can do and if that’s even a good idea precedent-wise.

*Everyone* needs to be serious as a heart attack about a General Strike if Electoral College is either ignored or fucked with.

It shouldn’t be hard to stay the fuck home… you know… *now*

My Great Grandpa Bacon was one of the organizers of the IWW back in the 1910’s. He actually worked with Eugene Debs. Knew him personally. If he were alive today he’d be working full time to trigger a general strike. He believed that if workers walked off the job and just held out the rich would capitulate.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:51:03pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:52:08pm

re: #133 jaunte

Oy. She’s a Q nut.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:54:04pm

re: #113 jaunte

GOP members reverse course, vote to certify Wayne County election results (Detroit Free-Press)

After what was an unprecedented 2-2 deadlock along partisan lines, with the two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers voting against certifying the county’s November election results, the board unanimously voted to certify the results late Tuesday night.

The board also passed a resolution calling on Michigan Democratic Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to conduct an independent comprehensive audit of all of the jurisdictions in the county that recorded unexplained discrepancies between the number of absentee ballots recorded as cast and the number of absentee ballots counted.

All four members of the board unanimously supported the certification of the August primary election, which also saw unexplained discrepancies.

(more)

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retired cynic  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:55:12pm

re: #98 thedopefishlives

Clever girl.

Elie Mystal is very much a guy!

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:55:35pm

re: #143 retired cynic

Raptor joke.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:55:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:55:58pm
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Belafon  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:59:54pm

re: #137 jaunte

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Same thing they filed in Pennsylvania.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 17, 2020 • 6:59:57pm

re: #127 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’re (still) lucky that someone didn’t call in Smith & Wesson to perform an audit of the Republicans.

Half /

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Citizen K  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:01:57pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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This is certainly not helped by media already acting like Dems are overstepping their bounds and becoming tyrants just by doing normal fucking transition things too.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:02:48pm
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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:03:17pm

If only that was all it took.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:03:43pm

👍👍

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:05:13pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:05:36pm

Jesus.

It’s like watching Laurel and Hardy try to be serial killers.

It’s hilarious as long as you forgot the finish line they’re running towards.

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gwangung  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:05:59pm

re: #151 jaunte

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If only that was all it took.

Looked like it was four continuous hours of bitching phone calls and in person complaints.

Made them face the people they were dismissing in person and in full living color.

re: #153 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yep. Facing the consequences of their actions doesn’t seem like a thing they’re used to.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:06:49pm
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lawhawk  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:07:00pm

99% of the time, boards of elections work in obscurity and anonymity because they’re bureaucrats who do the job of counting votes and preserving the image that the election results are sacrosanct.

2020 has ripped the mask off the GOP and their willingness to throw all of it away for a fascist fucker in the WH. The names of those GOPers on the Wayne County board are now known nationwide precisely because of their intent to purposefully disenfranchise half a million voters because they wanted Trump to win despite knowing full well he lost precisely because those half a million voters overwhelmingly voted for Trump’s rival.

Trump has encouraged all kinds of election related crimes, from voter fraud to election fraud (these are different actions and crimes - in size and scope). Voter fraud where he encouraged people to vote twice. Election fraud where he called on GOPers in various states to nullify the results of actual elections and millions of voters so he could claim victory.

We know that he’s tried interfering in elections. He’s had others try to interfere. Just today we learned that Graham tried to get Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada officials to flip the switch for Trump despite Trump losing by hefty margins.

The GOP election interference campaign must be investigated and prosecuted. We need to expose the criminality and misconduct and how the GOP has abrogated the social contract putting party above nation and that there are consequences for this.

Democrats simultaneously must GOTV and keep GOTV in every election from the local level on up. All elections matter, and as we head into redistricting, this too matters.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:07:28pm

re: #155 gwangung

And it had to be in a situation as racially disproportionate as Detroit. Shaming people in Jim Jordan’s district for being racist will just get yawns.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:08:26pm

re: #127 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Just in case you wanted details.

[Embedded content]

And I’m sure those details included Monica Palmer and William Hartmann having visions of themselves being invited to an impromptu necktie party for attempting to disenfranchise the voters of Detroit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:09:24pm

re: #73 Citizen K

Reminder to all: Ken Vogel was the one who in May 2019 was carrying Giuliani’s water in trying to smear Biden as part of the Ukraine fiasco. Vogel is NY Times new Judith Miller, except that instead of trying to lie us into a war to help a Republican President, he is trying to discredit a Democratic President-Elect to help Republicans.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:10:12pm
162
dangerman  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:10:27pm

re: #155 gwangung

Looked like it was four continuous hours of bitching phone calls and in person complaints.

Made them face the people they were dismissing in person and in full living color.

Yep. Facing the consequences of their actions doesn’t seem like a thing they’re used to.

profiles in courage

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:13:22pm

re: #157 lawhawk

99% of the time, boards of elections work in obscurity and anonymity because they’re bureaucrats who do the job of counting votes and preserving the image that the election results are sacrosanct.

This election experience means that the former obscurity and anonymity (and presumption of neutrality) is probably going to disappear. Welcome to the spotlight, board of election members!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:19:05pm

re: #118 Dread Pirate Ron

Note that once the fired actually leave government service, they can still discuss things with the Biden transition team. There may be some issues with classified material, but items such as incriminations of law breaking, etc., will be fair game.

Trump cannot win this. He’s trying. I expected him to try. At best all Trump can do is to try to keep his marks engaged long enough to have them as customers for his post-Presidency scams.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:24:00pm

Tropical Storm Iota is near the southern Honduras/El Salvador border. There are still tropical storm warnings along the coastline of Honduras.

SUMMARY OF 900 PM CST…0300 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…13.7N 87.3W
ABOUT 25 MI…40 KM SSW OF TEGUCIGALPA HONDURAS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…40 MPH…65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…W OR 270 DEGREES AT 12 MPH…19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1000 MB…29.53 INCHES

National Hurricane Center 2100 CST Storm Discussion

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:25:28pm

We elected the right guy but America needs a loud Joe Biden as President, a quiet Joe Biden does nobody any good.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:27:13pm
169
Patricia Kayden  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:27:24pm

re: #116 jaunte

Incentives such as life saving PPE during a pandemic which has killed many of their people.

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jaunte  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:28:24pm
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jamesfirecat  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:28:29pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

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Notice he doesn’t actually name who he supports.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:29:27pm

re: #167 b.d. (We Won!)

We elected the right guy but America needs a loud Joe Biden as President, a quiet Joe Biden does nobody any good.

The “we must unify after a contentious election” is pretty much the same message every president says after an election.

What we need are loud surrogates and attack dogs in the DOJ.

There are plenty of people who can fill the roll of William Barr, such as Preet Baraha or Sally Yates.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:29:40pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Charles I would answer your question but my going rate is $20,000 a day.

Please let me know if you would still like the answer.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:32:07pm

Got a call tonight from a friend who moved to Texas last year to be near her children. She was sharing her depression over the continuing dispute over the election — and she didn’t understand why someone could not just take and evict him. Her children who have resided in Texas for decades are apparently all Republicans as is the senior housing where she resides — and she confesses she cannot discuss politics with any of them because they all believe in Trump, their lord and master. She is bewildered as to why they have such loyalty to such a liar. Anyone can be brainwashed if all around you and the media you watch spread a single message; and if you ever switch to a different channel, your brain won’t accept a contrary message.

Democrats have to figure out some way of winning over with an alternative story. How a monster who killed a quarter million Americans retains such loyalty is almost beyond understanding — except that most of his supporters don’t have a close family member or friend who was struck by a serious case of the disease. And even if they do, they blame the problem on China or Cuomo or anyone/anything other than the king of superspreaders himself.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:32:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:37:17pm

re: #170 jaunte

More of that conservative love for veterans.

They especially love using us when they don’t want to spend money on something else: Why aren’t we spending this on homeless veterans? Yet when homeless veterans ask for help, the GOP has never been anywhere to be found.

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stpaulbear  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:37:30pm

re: #167 b.d. (We Won!)

We elected the right guy but America needs a loud Joe Biden as President, a quiet Joe Biden does nobody any good.

A quiet Joe Biden won the election.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 17, 2020 • 7:47:09pm

re: #177 stpaulbear

A quiet Joe Biden won the election.

Plus Biden being quiet about any prosecution sort of hurts their inevitable complaints that the criminal investigation will be politically motivated. Having a professional at AG rather than a bigot or hack like Sessions or Barr will do wonders.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 17, 2020 • 9:41:53pm

re: #44 BeachDem

And then there are the Boy Scouts—

At least 92,000 have filed sex abuse claims against the Boy Scouts, legal team says

Sex abuse in the BSA was an “unspoken norm,” according to Van Arsdale, one of the lead attorneys who says he has communicated with thousands of alleged survivors over the past 19 months.

“Based on what we are hearing from survivors, sexual abuse was a rite of passage in troops across the country, similar to other tasks where children had to … perform certain duties to earn their coveted merit badges,” he said in a statement.

cnn.com

There are ambulance chaser lawyer ads on TV about this. Essentially the remoras trying to drum up people so that they can join any sort of class action suit and get whatever money they can from the BSA. Said ads also claim that the BSA will soon claim bankruptcy - but I’m pretty sure that’s just boilerplate for the ads to try to get an immediate response to their appeal.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 17, 2020 • 9:49:07pm

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The evil fuckers blinked.

Wonder if they called someone during a recess and were told they were going to be hung out to be dried.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 17, 2020 • 9:51:55pm

re: #102 garzooma

Josh Marshall at TPM had an article reiterating a point he made before about how what we really need is an executive branch audit, since:

1.) We don’t know what happened, so we’re better off reserving judgement until we find out.
2.) It’s bad for the President to be directing the Justice Department
3.) The Justice Department is the wrong tool, since it’s concerned with prosecutable crimes and is designed to not divulge findings of non-criminal bad acts.

Government needs a audit/investigative section or branch that is outside the control of either the President or Congress. And one with some teeth in terms of investigative power and ability to sanction those who attempt obstruction.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 17, 2020 • 10:00:45pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

I think the solidest point to make against the likelihood of the GOP state legislatures in these states stealing their states’ electoral votes for Trump is their public statements that the will of the voters in their states will prevail. This has been said at least in PA.

Now of course since these people are Republicans, we have to take the possibility they are lying very seriously. If they are lying, the plan is obviously to do a last minute “shock and awe” substitution of the electors in multiple states just before the EC vote on Dec 6. IMO that scenario ends up with GOP legislators getting their guts yanked out by angry mobs, and I think they know that.

IMO if they were going to switch electors, they would be talking it up as a real possibility to give time for their enablers in the media to normalize the idea. God knows that works too damn well in nearly all cases. That’s not happening.

Also, even a cynical calculation by them should show the following:
1. Throwing the election to Trump carries a serious implication towards their future careers. And for what? Trump won’t be grateful.

2. A GOP coup and authoritarian dictatorship to follow really does nothing for them. Once the coup happens all the legislatures are essentially rubber stamps. They serve at the whim of the dictator and whatever lackey he puts in charge of that region. An individual might toady to some degree of power, but also is in a new dog-eat-dog environment where you have to constantly watch out for that knife in the back from a colleague or denouncement to whatever the party commissar equivalent is.

3. As also mentioned, such a attempted coup might also result in a close relationship with a lamp post.

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John Hughes  Nov 18, 2020 • 8:48:45am

re: #118 Dread Pirate Ron
This is why the UK (and even France FFS) have a tradition of an apolitical civil service. If the boss is changed the civil servants (or fonctionaires) can bring the new boss up to speed about what’s going on.

Most countries don’t have a “transition period’. The new guy arrives as the old guy is leaving.


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Boarghazi Ain’t Going Away! - SOME MORE NEWS [VIDEO] Get the best discount of the year on Raycons! Now through the end of December, go to buyraycon.com to get 15% off your order! Show those boars how you feel with our brand new "NO MOAR BOARS" t-shirt available ...
teleskiguy
20 hours, 50 minutes ago
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201129Saturday was limited to some light and general work, owing to an early morning 16 mile run.We (well she) painted another 25% of the deck. Almost done for the first coat.Then there will be a ton of touch up and ...
dangerman
1 day, 9 hours ago
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The Big Moon - Why Director/Editor - Jonjo LoweProducer - Rosie BrearDoP - Alistair LittleCinema 4D Animation - Jay DarlingtonGrade - Myles Bevan @ Time Based ArtsEdit/FX Assistant - Carina EtaeCollage Design Assist - Bex LiuChoreography - Grace Nicol Special thanks - Thrds Studio, ...
Thanos
3 days, 6 hours ago
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Deep Sea Diver - Impossible Weight (Studio Video) “Impossible Weight” off Deep Sea Diver’s new album 'Impossible Weight' out now. Filmed during the recording of Impossible Weight at Hall of Justice in Seattle WA. STREAM / BUY "Impossible Weight" here smarturl.it WATCH OFFICAL MUSIC VIDEO HERE : ...
Thanos
1 week ago
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Eddie Vedder - Matter of Time (Official Music Video) The official music video for "Matter of Time" by Eddie Vedder. Written for everyone worldwide afflicted with Epidermolysis Bullosa (EB). To help fund research aimed at treating and curing EB, please donate to the EB Research Partnership: ebresearch.org “Matter ...
Thanos
1 week ago
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201122 Saturday was general maintenance around the place.Mowing, weed whacking, palm tree trimming, etc.Nothing picture worthy or really, even pond related. Sunday was more rain. We really were lucky for that first year. Not one Sunday did we get rained ...
dangerman
1 week, 2 days ago
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Nduduzo Makhathini - UmlothaMusic video by Nduduzo Makhathini performing Umlotha. © 2020 Universal Music (Pty) Ltd South Africa vevo.ly
Thanos
1 week, 4 days ago
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Brian Eno - Decline and Fall (From ‘O Nome Da Morte’) The official music video for "Decline and Fall”, a track from the new album “Film Music 1976 - 2020”, is a cinematic collaboration between Brian Eno and acclaimed Brazilian film director Henrique Goldman which contemplates rain and fire, fiction ...
Thanos
2 weeks ago
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Brian Eno - Like I Was a Spectator 'Like I Was A Spectator', a brand new track by Brian Eno with Daniel Lanois and Roger Eno from ‘Apollo – Atmospheres & Soundtracks – Extended Edition’. The video was created using rare N.A.S.A. footage.Order now: brianeno.lnk.to Follow Brian ...
Thanos
2 weeks ago
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201115After two really sunny and swell days since Eta left, Saturday was a mix of mostly sun and a bit of rain.We still managed to be really productive both days anyway. Got all the lava rock washed and shoveled into ...
dangerman
2 weeks, 2 days ago
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