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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:10:58am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:10:58am

Trump’s Team America: What a bunch of assholes.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:13:30am

Check out the freeper threads on the presser, illuminating what the other side will believe. Well, not really. Always knew they were a bunch of rubes.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:15:07am

‘Elite strikeforce team.’

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:15:08am

re: #3 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Check out the freeper threads on the presser, illuminating what the other side will believe. Well, not really. Always knew they were a bunch of rubes.

I’m going to remember the silence of so called libertarians like Ron and Rand Paul here who love to act like they’re anti big government and authoritarianism but choose to stay silent and in Rand’s case outright complicit in an attempted coup. It’s a failing an attempted coup but yes Sideshow Don, they still give out punishments for attempting coups.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:15:48am

re: #4 makeitstop

‘Elite strikeforce team.’

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Sick of this disinformation bullshit.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:17:23am

re: #4 makeitstop

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‘Elite strikeforce team.’

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:20:24am

re: #1 The Pie Overlord!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:21:20am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:21:39am

Does LGF have an elite strike force task team thing?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:23:03am

IF YOU DON’T COUNT DETROIT & YOU DON’T COUNT PHILADELPHIA, WHEE WIN!!!!1!!1!!!!

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thedopefishlives  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:23:16am

re: #10 Sir John Barron

Does LGF have an elite strike force task team thing?

We could tell you, but then we’d have to kill you.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:26:54am
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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:27:39am

re: #13 dangerman

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and yes, i know the margin in the three close states is less than trump’s 77k in 2016

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:28:11am

Elite strikeforce team, part 2…

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:29:26am
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plansbandc  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:30:03am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:30:05am

re: #15 makeitstop

Elite strikeforce team, part 2…

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Does that make Dead Hugo Chavez part of someone’s elite strike force?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:31:09am

re: #15 makeitstop

Elite strikeforce team, part 2…

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God damn it, people. I thought we said that the Weekend at Bernie’s plan WAS NOT ACTUALLY A PLAN!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:31:12am

re: #15 makeitstop

Elite strikeforce team, part 2…

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Hey, now. I mean if dead people can vote why can’t they rig elections?

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:32:07am

Kinda sad that I didn’t choose to watch live now.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:34:13am

re: #15 makeitstop

Elite strikeforce team, part 2…

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Not only are dead people voting, they’re running the vote rigging

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:34:57am

re: #18 Sir John Barron

Does that make Dead Hugo Chavez part of someone’s elite strike force?

This one, I guess.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:35:39am

re: #5 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Modern Libertarianism rejects democracy because ordinary citizens can have Reps introduce public sector spending legislation, regulations, and other limitations rather than just 100% “free market” bullshit. Democracy is now the enemy of Libertarians and in its place is the notion of a fantasy dictatorship that enforces Capitalism at all costs. Think Pinochet as an example.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:39:19am

re: #23 makeitstop

This one, I guess.

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I fucking hate Rothman. Rub this shit in his smug fucking face.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:39:32am

re: #23 makeitstop

This one, I guess.

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“If the majority of Americans had not voted against Trump, he would have won.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:39:52am

J. Fucking. C.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:41:13am

re: #27 The Pie Overlord!

J. Fucking. C.

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What the… I can’t even.

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bratwurst  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:45:41am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:50:31am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:51:42am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:53:49am

Note how NOT ONE FUCKING C.R.A.P. (Communist Republican Asshole Party) Representative or Senator is even trying to put the brakes on this shit.

Not one.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:58:49am
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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:58:51am

re: #31 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2020 • 10:59:03am

re: #31 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The 70+ million voters also share the blame for Trump’s anti-democratic antics. They’re cheering him on.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:01:40am

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

The 70+ million voters also share the blame for Trump’s anti-democratic antics. They’re cheering him on.

Some of them are cheering him on, some of them are so ensconced in White Privilege that they’re free to vote for a Republican on Election day, for whatever reason they tell themselves, and then stop caring about what happens in politics after that.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:02:32am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:03:08am

re: #37 jamesfirecat

Some of them are cheering him on, some of them are so ensconced in White Privilege that they’re free to vote for a Republican on Election day, for whatever reason they tell themselves, and then stop caring about what happens in politics after that.

That would be the people working around me.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:03:23am

When you’ve lost Czech President Miloš Zeman, well……

Donald Trump would be wiser to acknowledge losing the U.S. presidential election and quit, Czech President Milos Zeman, an early Trump supporter, said on Thursday.

Zeman, one of the few European politicians who backed Trump before his 2016 election victory but who made no such endorsement this year, told news website parlamentnilisty.cz that while it was possible to demand recounts and go to court, Trump should take a different route.

“I personally believe that it would be much more reasonable to give up, not to be embarrassing, and allow the new president to take office,” he said.

ca.reuters.com

In truth, Miloš Zeman is pretty embarrassing to most Czechs too; he’s a notorious drunk among other things. He’s nowhere near as bad as Trump but he’s still seen as a colossal embarrassment which makes him saying this even more significant.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:03:35am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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This will *not* be over after the inauguration.

He will not stop

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:03:40am

Can’t stop. Won’t stop.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:04:47am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:05:00am

re: #42 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t stop. Won’t stop.

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“…& maybe Fox News”

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:05:49am

re: #42 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t stop. Won’t stop.

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The future of icy cold prison bars have already settled into his dim mind. Trump will stop at nothing to subvert this election.

Nothing.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:06:52am
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jamesfirecat  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:07:09am

re: #39 Belafon

That would be the people working around me.

I think at the end of the day even more than the right to not be hassled by cops or anything else, the ultimate zenith of White Privilege is the ability to be politically uniformed, not misinformed like the people who are into Fox News or OANN but to just be so certain of your standing in society that you can afford to cast your vote and then stop worrying about the election.

I think this also is the seed from which the “can’t both sides just get along” poisoned tree springs, because you’ve done as much political stuff as you want to do every four years, why do people have to keep bringing politics into everything?

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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:07:11am

re: #34 Charles Johnson

There isn’t a shortage of morally bankrupt assholes that support this fuckery. Literally, tens of millions. They push any falsehood for a payday and tell the gullible what they desperately want to hear. Facts don’t matter, the narrative does. It’s very much like a religious cult.

“I told you so,” doesn’t feel satisfying or affect the outcome. All day long, for years, people point out the lies, but here we are.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:07:11am
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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:08:44am

re: #43 jaunte

Is he going to give the MI folks the Lindsey Graham golf outing treatment?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:08:47am
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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:09:05am

re: #48 PrairieQueen

There isn’t a shortage of morally bankrupt assholes that support this fuckery. Literally, tens of millions. They push any falsehood for a payday and tell the gullible what they desperately want to hear. Facts don’t matter, the narrative does. It’s very much like a religious cult.

“I told you so,” doesn’t feel satisfying or affect the outcome. All day long, for years, people point out the lies, but here we are.

Remember back at the impeachment..how far would they go to support this guy?….

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:11:21am
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:11:40am

re: #24 Florida Panhandler

Modern Libertarianism rejects democracy because ordinary citizens can have Reps introduce public sector spending legislation, regulations, and other limitations rather than just 100% “free market” bullshit. Democracy is now the enemy of Libertarians and in its place is the notion of a fantasy dictatorship that enforces Capitalism at all costs. Think Pinochet as an example.

Pre-modern libertarianism has a more common name:

Feudalism

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:11:42am

re: #43 jaunte

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While they’re gone, the remaining officials should just certify the results state-wide.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:12:24am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:13:15am
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bratwurst  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:13:33am

re: #53 Dread Pirate Ron

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calochortus  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:13:49am

re: #54 Sherlock Hound

Pre-modern libertarianism has a more common name:

Feudalism

Of course, that’s not precisely true. Everyone in the chain had, at least in theory, responsibilities towards those both above and below them. The latter was probably more honored in the breach than the observance.

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:15:19am
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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:15:52am

re: #52 dangerman

Yeah, which is one of many reasons so many people got off their asses and voted to get rid of him this past election. And that path is still not clear.

The biggest problem is no consequences. Ever. Used to be, treasonous shit got somebody executed. It was treated very seriously. At the least, the accused might go ahead and brush their teeth with cyanide. Now, there are literally no consequences, and haven’t been for quite some time. The inmates run the asylum.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:16:04am

re: #57 jaunte

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In actual reality, an injunction is only issued if the plaintiff is likely to prevail on the merits, and not issuing the injunction would be injurious to the plaintiff. They are 1-29 in federal and state courts so far, I don’t think they can even come close to meeting the “likely to prevail” bar to get a preliminary injunction issued.

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bratwurst  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:17:35am

BBC chief for the Americas!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:17:53am

Time to call it a day. Have fun, Lizards and stay healthy.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:18:26am

re: #62 thedopefishlives

I guess this is why McConnell has been so busy sticking fanatics and unqualified goobers onto the courts.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:18:43am
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thedopefishlives  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:19:09am

re: #65 jaunte

I guess this is why McConnell has been so busy sticking fanatics and unqualified goobers onto the courts.

Well, that and because this is his one singular goal - to preserve and expand power by any means necessary. He rammed through all of Trump’s judicial appointments just to say “Fuck you” to America.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:22:25am

re: #59 calochortus

Of course, that’s not precisely true. Everyone in the chain had, at least in theory, responsibilities towards those both above and below them. The latter was probably more honored in the breach than the observance.

This point remains: NO form of libertarianism has ever been Democratic. Not a one. Curtis Yarvin’s end argument was always: “Abolish democracy. I got mine. And always will.” It’s always appealed to upper-upper-middle class white Anglo serfs who will be OK whatever the politics. I remember reading an interview with the late SF author Jerry Pournelle, where he actually said this thing.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:25:47am

re: #68 Sherlock Hound

This point remains: NO form of libertarianism has ever been Democratic. Not a one. Curtis Yarvin’s end argument was always: “Abolish democracy. I got mine. And always will.” It’s always appealed to upper-upper-middle class white Anglo serfs who will be OK whatever the politics. I remember reading an interview with the late SF author Jerry Pournelle, where he actually said this thing.

I got mine

Until you don’t and then “this is so unfair”

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calochortus  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:26:24am

re: #68 Sherlock Hound

This point remains: NO form of libertarianism has ever been Democratic. Not a one. Curtis Yarvin’s end argument was always: “Abolish democracy. I got mine. And always will.” It’s always appealed to upper-upper-middle class white Anglo serfs who will be OK whatever the politics. I remember reading an interview with the late SF author Jerry Pournelle, where he actually said this thing.

Oh, absolutely. When the upper crust gives up on noblesse oblige. Others have obligations to them, but they have no obligations to anyone else.

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Thanos  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:27:02am

re: #68 Sherlock Hound

This point remains: NO form of libertarianism has ever been Democratic. Not a one. Curtis Yarvin’s end argument was always: “Abolish democracy. I got mine. And always will.” It’s always appealed to upper-upper-middle class white Anglo serfs who will be OK whatever the politics. I remember reading an interview with the late SF author Jerry Pournelle, where he actually said this thing.

Iggy Pop - Bang Bang 1981

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:29:39am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:31:43am

Zombies at the window.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:33:00am

I’ve had enough of this shit

I’m ready for the red pill

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:35:21am
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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:35:41am

Their heart is in the right place.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:36:30am

re: #73 jaunte

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Zombies at the window.

The Republican model for the USA has accelerated even more towards the old Apartheid South African Government. A small percentage of the population is able to carve out all the power and a massive amount of wealth along with it by directly subjugating most of the people.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:36:31am

re: #75 Dread Pirate Ron

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“The role played by Dead Hugo Chavez is real, OK? Believe me.”

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:38:43am

Rudy sure put a new spin on The Tammy Faye Bakker Thing!

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:40:00am

re: #78 Sir John Barron

“The role played by Dead Hugo Chavez is real, OK? Believe me.”

Who’s playing that role—James Woods, Kelsey Grammar, Kirk Cameron or Robert Davi?

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Varek Raith  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:40:34am

Hugo Chavev?!
Fucking hell, has the zombie apocalypse started without me?

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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:41:15am

re: #79 🌹UOJB!

Between Trump and Rudy, they wear more makeup than a lot of ladies I know to cover their rot. They honestly look like Death Becomes Her, the last couple scenes. Animated corpses way past their fresh date.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:41:21am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:41:52am

re: #49 jaunte

And this goes back to 2018, fer chrissakes….

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:42:02am

re: #80 🌹UOJB!

Who’s playing that role—James Woods, Kelsey Grammar, Kirk Cameron or Robert Davi?

Robert Davi seems like a lock.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:42:35am

re: #81 Varek Raith

Hugo Chavev?!
Fucking hell, has the zombie apocalypse started without me?

[Blank stare.]
Dude, where the fuck you been for the last four years? The zombie apocalypse has been ongoing since at least that far back. Now then, might I trouble you for some brains? We’re going hungry here in Wingnuttia.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:44:14am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:46:06am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:47:48am
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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:48:30am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:48:32am

re: #89 Dread Pirate Ron

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Once you claim to understand them then you undermine the vast super strike force quality of the conspiracy.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:48:45am

re: #89 Dread Pirate Ron

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Every one of those fucking assholes must be disbarred and banned from practicing law for the rest of their lives.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:49:32am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:51:23am

re: #87 jaunte

Trying to stay calm but I’m not finding Trump’s antics funny. Nothing would surprise me. This country is slipping into “It Can’t Happen Here” territory.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:52:35am

re: #93 Dread Pirate Ron

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It doesn’t matter because my batshit insane relatives are already posting and sharing that Merlino stuffed the ballot boxes in Philly.

This is why we need British style libel laws to shut these liars down.

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:52:47am

See the third point - too harsh, or just right?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:52:53am

re: #88 jaunte

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I’m not really sure what the whole flying the MI legislatures into town tonight is supposed to accomplish? I don’t think they can block certification, or even more bizarrely try to replace the state’s popular vote with a vote for EC votes in the state legislature at this point, but what do I know

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:53:12am

re: #88 jaunte

I wonder how many Michigan voters could see them off at the airport?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:53:25am

Uh huh.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:54:24am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:55:04am

re: #100 Dread Pirate Ron

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It all makes perfect nonsense

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:55:31am

re: #100 Dread Pirate Ron

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obviously a lot can change between yesterday and today.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:55:40am

re: #96 Interesting Times

See the third point - too harsh, or just right?

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It’s crap.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:55:56am

re: #99 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Uh huh.

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Wow. Another sternly worded letter from that Rock of Jell-0 Mitt…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:56:13am

re: #80 🌹UOJB!

Who’s playing that role—James Woods, Kelsey Grammar, Kirk Cameron or Robert Davi?

I’ve always thought Mark Labbett from The Chase bears a resemblance to Chavez.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:57:16am

re: #96 Interesting Times

See the third point - too harsh, or just right?

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I’m a bit too concerned about Trump’s current coup attempts at the moment to evaluate Nancy Smash’s merits or liabilities as House Speaker.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:57:27am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:57:36am

re: #99 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Uh huh.

Has Susan Collins responded yet that she’s “concerned”?

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:58:49am

re: #108 Dr. Matt

Has Susan Collins responded yet that she’s “concerned”?

Oh she no longer has to. She’s already said that she will abandon LGBTQ people because they supported her opponent. So she’s finally showing her true swastikas.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 11:59:08am

re: #96 Interesting Times

See the third point - too harsh, or just right?

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Did they f’n forget the impeachment and the near unanimous votes by Democrats in both chambers? Did they forget the hundreds of bills that the House passed?

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jamesfirecat  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:00:51pm

re: #110 Belafon

Did they f-in forget the impeachment and the near unanimous votes by Democrats in both chambers? Did they forget the hundreds of bills that the House passed?

But other than what have the Romans has Nancy Pelosi really done for us?

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:01:42pm

re: #110 Belafon

The D Rep from MN who voted against impeachment lost his election. Sad to see a seat flip R but there were probably a lot of voters who just said fuck that guy.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:02:24pm

re: #112 stpaulbear

The D Rep from MN who voted against impeachment lost his election. Sad to see a seat flip R but there were probably a lot of voters who just said fuck that guy.

Hmm, who was that?

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:05:14pm

re: #97 Sir John Barron

I think it’s as simple as this: Trump’s default move is to rant at and bully whoever he thinks will give him what he wants until they fold.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:06:45pm

re: #93 Dread Pirate Ron

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In which a mob boss has more credibility than the president.

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:07:19pm

re: #113 Sir John Barron

Hmm, who was that?

Collin Peterson MN-7. He was one of the founding ‘blue dogs’.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:08:05pm
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:08:34pm

Turning a political party into a mob.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:09:02pm

re: #116 stpaulbear

Collin Peterson MN-7. He was one of the founding ‘blue dogs’.

wow, really? amazing. he’s been in Congress a long time hasn’t he?

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:09:17pm

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

Trying to stay calm but I’m not finding Trump’s antics funny. Nothing would surprise me. This country is slipping into “It Can’t Happen Here” territory.

I thought that we already had, four years ago.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:10:39pm

re: #57 jaunte

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She isn’t entirely wrong about the process for obtaining an injunction. You don’t have to put on your entire case in chief. But there are few standard elements for obtaining an injunction—one of which is likelihood of success on the merits. In order to properly evaluate in whose favor that prong points, the person requesting the injunction needs to present some evidence showing they have a good case.

But aside from all of that…a press conference isn’t a court of law. Show us the fucking evidence.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:11:34pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:12:27pm

re: #121 Mike Lamb

She isn’t entirely wrong about the process for obtaining an injunction. You don’t have to put on your entire case in chief. But there are few standard elements for obtaining an injunction—one of which is likelihood of success on the merits. In order to properly evaluate in whose favor that prong points, the person requesting the injunction needs to present some evidence showing they have a good case.

But aside from all of that…a press conference isn’t a court of law. Show us the fucking evidence.

a press conference is something for the cult “news” networks to carry so the cult followers can flood their FB and instagram feeds with “important news and evidence” about all the voter fraud, etc.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:12:47pm

re: #103 Belafon

It’s crap.

Seconded.

She should explain how Pelosi could have done anything differently, given McConnell’s Senate.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:13:17pm

re: #122 jaunte

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yeah i’m not sure our side was prepared for the campaign after the election.

The next phase is the campaign after the inauguration.

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:15:34pm

re: #124 makeitstop

She should explain how Pelosi could have done anything differently, given McConnell’s Senate.

Her most common complaint is the refusal to use inherent contempt:

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:17:32pm

Ha, there’s video of Rudy being mocked.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:17:56pm

re: #127 makeitstop

Ha, there’s video of Rudy being mocked.

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Ssssh, he’s a part of the super duper strike team special

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:19:03pm
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Florida Panhandler  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:19:07pm

re: #117 jaunte

Look up “Hybrid Regime”.

Under Republican Congressional dominance we have been trending towards being just another Russia or Turkey for a long while now. Trump sent us firmly over the threshold defining a Flawed Democracy and a Hybrid Regime. The only hope of at least attempting a reversal back to Flawed Democracy is for Biden and Democrats to RIGHT NOW start publicly shaming Trump and his gangster efforts to billy his way to a 2nd term.

Trump will dispense with elections altogether in his 2nd term with the full support of Republicans.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:19:33pm

re: #96 Interesting Times

I don’t trust Kendzior one bit. She is like all the survivalists and preppers I know of: She started with rational fears and understandable trauma.

Then she joined a podcast. Now fear and trauma are her fucking product. I’ve seen that trope over and over.

The Democrats?

We accept that the Republicans are spreading disinfo. But what if Kendzior is doing the same?

“Everybody’s at fault. Everyone’s crooked.”

Fine. Don’t expect anyone to rise to the occasion.

Thanks, Putin.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:20:40pm

re: #131 Sherlock Hound

I don’t trust Kendzior one bit. She is like all the survivalists and preppers I know of: She started with rational fears and understandable trauma.

Then she joined a podcast. Now fear and trauma are her fucking product.

Bingo.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:21:07pm

re: #130 Florida Panhandler

Look up “Hybrid Regime”.

Under Republican Congressional dominance we have been trending towards being just another Russia or Turkey for a long while now. Trump sent us firmly over the threshold defining a Flawed Democracy and a Hybrid Regime. The only hope of at least attempting a reversal back to Flawed Democracy is for Biden and Democrats to RIGHT NOW start publicly shaming Trump and his gangster efforts to billy his way to a 2nd term.

Trump will dispense with elections altogether in his 2nd term with the full support of Republicans.

I disagree, they wouldn’t/won’t disperse with elections, Americans are too fond of them and it is too obvious. They’d just want to figure out a better more effective way of rigging them to make sure that the right people always win like how Putin keeps getting 90%+ of the vote.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:23:38pm

re: #133 jamesfirecat

I disagree, they won’t disperse with elections, Americans are too fond of them, they’d just want to figure out a better more effective way of rigging them to make sure that the right people always win like how Putin keeps getting 90%+ of the vote.

When you have a relative actually advocating that only ordained Xtian ministers should have the vote…

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garzooma  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:25:25pm

re: #133 jamesfirecat

I disagree, they wouldn’t/won’t disperse with elections, Americans are too fond of them and it is too obvious. They’d just want to figure out a better more effective way of rigging them to make sure that the right people always win like how Putin keeps getting 90%+ of the vote.

Yeah, hybrid regimes typically do have elections.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:29:25pm

Fox News, credibly fact-checking Rudy. I gotta go lie down now.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:29:48pm

re: #133 jamesfirecat

I disagree, they wouldn’t/won’t disperse with elections, Americans are too fond of them and it is too obvious. They’d just want to figure out a better more effective way of rigging them to make sure that the right people always win like how Putin keeps getting 90%+ of the vote.

People love the pageantry of elections. They won’t go away, if only because of the enormous number of down-ballot races. In other authoritarian countries, elections persist. (There is no “free and fair” in the definition of the word.)

Putin himself even complained about the low turnout in his last election!

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Acemarilllion  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:31:41pm

Has the Vatican begun digging in to this blood-weeping statue? This could be a miracle.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:34:09pm

re: #122 jaunte

Yep. I’m not understanding the nonchalant attitude of many on the left. It’s almost as if they have nothing to lose. Given how much Trump has stacked the courts, the election results aren’t secured as yet. Trying not to be paranoid but this is nerve wracking.

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Teukka  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:35:04pm

re: #138 Acemarilllion

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Has the Vatican begun digging in to this blood-weeping statue? This could be a miracle.

It would be over within a day, result coming in as excess hair dye being flushed out by means of copious sweat.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:36:24pm

re: #139 Patricia Kayden

Yep. I’m not understanding the nonchalant attitude of many on the left. It’s almost as if they have nothing to lose. Given how much Trump has stacked the courts, the election results aren’t secured as yet. Trying not to be paranoid but this is nerve wracking.

New York Times: “A key part of the G.O.P. strategy has been to delay certification processes in battleground states that Mr. Biden won, in the hopes that, if state officials miss their deadlines, legislators will subvert the popular vote and appoint pro-Trump slates to the Electoral College. But that’s extremely unlikely to happen.

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:36:50pm

re: #139 Patricia Kayden

Yep. I’m not understanding the nonchalant attitude of many on the left. It’s almost as if they have nothing to lose.

This is also what Sarah Kendzior is complaining about - that, obscene GOPer senate obstructionism aside, high-profile Dems like Pelosi aren’t even conducting a good PR campaign against all the crap. At the very least, they should be doing this:

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:37:05pm

re: #119 Sir John Barron

wow, really? amazing. he’s been in Congress a long time hasn’t he?

30 years

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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:38:46pm

re: #138 Acemarilllion

Aren’t his pupils awfully dilated for being in front of TV lighting?

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:38:49pm

al.com

Tennessee mayor won’t require COVID masks until Holy Spirit says so

uh, Mayor Asshole, this is The Big G reminding you doctors have warned you about Covid and you’re too fucking stupid to listen to them.

Asking for The Holy Ghost? Oh he’s too busy with The Bar-Kays

The Bar-Kays “Holy Ghost”

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:39:03pm

GA certifies tomorrow
MI and PA on Monday
if there’s any steam left in the Trump-Guilianni “plan” to overturn the election results it will evaporate then.

granted they don’t expect to change anything about the election. They’re trying to preload resistance against the Biden presidency but that’s another matter

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:39:08pm

re: #141 dangerman

It’s unlikely to happen until it happens. Nothing is normal right now. But again, let me stop being alarmist. We’re still a democracy.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:39:17pm

re: #144 A Mom Anon

Aren’t his pupils awfully dilated for being in front of TV lighting?

Oh my, they are!

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:39:17pm

re: #136 makeitstop

Fox News, credibly fact-checking Rudy. I gotta go lie down now.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:40:57pm

re: #142 Interesting Times

This is also what Sarah Kendzior is complaining about - that, obscene GOPer senate obstructionism aside, high-profile Dems like Pelosi aren’t even conducting a good PR campaign against all the crap. At the very least, they should be doing this:

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That isn’t actually Nancy Pelosi’s job. She is very good at running her caucus. She is not, and never has been, good at rabble rousing and inspiring the troops. I don’t know who is in charge of this - maybe the DNC chair? But it isn’t Nancy.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:45:04pm

re: #96 Interesting Times

I can’t stand Sarah Kendzior. Attacking and undermining your own side is just annoying and unhelpful. I am all for holding them accountable and urging them to do better - but saying that Nancy and her Vichy Democrats are the third greatest threat is Glenn Greenwald territory.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:45:40pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:46:48pm
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:47:26pm

re: #149 (((Archangel1)))

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As Dante said it was.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:47:38pm

re: #149 (((Archangel1)))

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sweet fancy moses

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jamesfirecat  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:48:43pm

re: #151 Charmingly Persistent

I can’t stand Sarah Kendzior. Attacking and undermining your own side is just annoying and unhelpful. I am all for holding them accountable and urging them to do better - but saying that Nancy and her Vichy Democrats are the third greatest threat is Glenn Greenwald territory.

She puts trump first, the GOP senate second, and Nancy third… thus completely ignoring the political arm of the GOP IE Fox OANN and similar organizations that which helps them win so much shit by getting some people to vote for it believe it. There’s your proof that she’s not being serious and is just a shit stirrer, that or if she’s not actively malicious she’s so uniformed as to be unworthy of having her comments given any real consideration.

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baileylamb  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:49:57pm

re: #150 Charmingly Persistent

If only there were one of two Democratic politicans with cults if personality and could command media from a safe spot.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:51:13pm
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:52:59pm

re: #150 Charmingly Persistent

That isn’t actually Nancy Pelosi’s job. She is very good at running her caucus. She is not, and never has been, good at rabble rousing and inspiring the troops. I don’t know who is in charge of this - maybe the DNC chair? But it isn’t Nancy.

The only thing we want out of the DNC chair is to rally the supporters and the donors.

That’s it.

The Berners are the ones spreading conspiracy theories about the DNC uber alles, that everyone believes now. ANY of the Dem congressmen could pick up the cudgel—if we made them! (Hint)

(Am I the only person who noticed that the call to action is “Subscribe to my podcast!”, “Sign petition on change.org!”, “Scream at Pelosi!”, or “Scream on Twitter!”, instead of, “Scream at your Congressman!”, which the system is at least made for.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:54:46pm

Co-sign on the whole “Dems need to start making a bigger deal out of this shit” thing.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:55:56pm

re: #145 🌹UOJB!

al.com

Tennessee mayor won’t require COVID masks until Holy Spirit says so

uh, Mayor Asshole, this is The Big G reminding you doctors have warned you about Covid and you’re too fucking stupid to listen to them.

Asking for The Holy Ghost? Oh he’s too busy with The Bar-Kays

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the big man:

i sent you masks
i sent you social distancing
i sent you soap
i even sent you examples to follow of NY and NJ and other countries and their experiences 6 months ago

what were you waiting for?

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2020 • 12:59:38pm

re: #161 dangerman

the big man:

i sent you masks
i sent you social distancing
i sent you soap
i even sent you examples to follow of NY and NJ and other countries and their experiences 6 months ago

what were you waiting for?

That or go the “thou shall not put the Lord thy God to the test” route.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:01:17pm

re: #157 baileylamb

If only there were one of two Democratic politicans with cults if personality and could command media from a safe spot.

I mean I do wish the Dems were better at commanding attention and getting their message out (I know it’s an uphill battle with the press being the way it is).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:03:08pm

Corona Virus press show is about to start.

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baileylamb  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:05:01pm

re: #163 Charmingly Persistent

Maybe I’m being too subtle, why aren’t the more outspoken, outsider Democrats shouting from the roof tops, especially Bernie and AOC?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:05:03pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:05:37pm
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sagehen  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:06:24pm

re: #165 baileylamb

Maybe I’m being too subtle, why aren’t the more outspoken,. outsiders Democrats shouting from the roof tops, especially Bernie and AOC?

Because they’ve made themselves counter-productive.

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:10:35pm

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

Co-sign on the whole “Dems need to start making a bigger deal out of this shit” thing.

I think that if we get those election certifications on schedule, we’re going to start to see a bit (and hopefully more than a bit) of pushback on the bullshit from PE Biden (and Dems in general). Once the numbers are all in and “finalized”, The Trump gang’s only options are more lawsuits (presumably in higher courts) - which, since virtually NONE of their lower-court claims have gotten any traction, doesn’t bode well for their prospects; and/or attempted fuckery with state Legislatures and electors, etc. - which probably violates numerous state laws, and is likely (unlike the Trump suits) to get tossed by the first judge they encounter.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:10:39pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:11:21pm

re: #146 dangerman

GA certifies tomorrow
MI and PA on Monday
if there’s any steam left in the Trump-Guilianni “plan” to overturn the election results it will evaporate then.

granted they don’t expect to change anything about the election. They’re trying to preload resistance against the Biden presidency but that’s another matter

I was away. Did GA have their conference?

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:13:14pm

re: #154 Belafon

As Dante said it was.

Only at the center. The saying refers to the rest of it freezing as well.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:14:11pm
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ericblair  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:14:58pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:15:44pm
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austin_blue  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:16:11pm

re: #150 Charmingly Persistent

That isn’t actually Nancy Pelosi’s job. She is very good at running her caucus. She is not, and never has been, good at rabble rousing and inspiring the troops. I don’t know who is in charge of this - maybe the DNC chair? But it isn’t Nancy.

I agree. The Senate, on the other foot, representing the “Loyal Opposition” in the upper house, should be yelling bloody murder.

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piratedan  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:16:48pm

re: #168 sagehen

and it all is enabled by our main networks and CNN, because they would rather have their pundits on describing what they think Democrats are going to do instead of simply booking them and asking them. You see them book GOP legislators all the time and then they get to either prattle on unchallenged or paired with a like-minded pundit to lead them along.

Dems are not getting those opportunities… not even on MSNBC which is supposed to at least present the Dem POV.

There are a number of erudite Dem legislators, Lieu, Porter etc and I don’t even need a camera secure person, just someone who can explain what is going on and what the bill does and does not do… but when the people who control the message and control the frame of the message not giving you a chance, that makes it tougher.

It’s all well and good to say, throw it on Instagram, the problem is the people that need to see and hear the message are NOT using FUCKING INSTAGRAM, much less know how to consume its content.

the people who are driving this bus are the news directors and booking staff and THEY are not friendly to Dem interests or the other possibility is that Dems are working, the GOP is not, so THEY”RE ALWAYS FUCKING AVIALABLE.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:17:33pm

re: #166 Dread Pirate Ron

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dood:

the president has long ago abdicated, except for the perks and the trappings of office

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:18:22pm
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:18:51pm

Yes, I know they don’t feel shame. But they should feel pressure.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:21:12pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:22:08pm
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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:22:56pm

re: #170 The Pie Overlord!

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as a strategy it’s a loser and has been since we started discussing it months ago

a bunch of R states would have to do it and there arent enough R states where someone in the correct position of power (ie not the legislatures) would be willing to bring the entire country down over this

the legislatures they are targeting ‘creating’ their own slate of electors out of whole cloth has about as much authority as if I did it myself. Congress would not be receiving two opposing slates. they’d be receiving one real, legitimate and legal and one meaningless and worthless.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:23:17pm

re: #181 The Pie Overlord!

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Really this thing was more terroristic than the Lincoln murder conspiracy. It’s a testament to the investigators that it was uncovered before these assholes could act.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:24:04pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:24:52pm

re: #179 jaunte

We should commence naming and shaming every single lawmaker who makes this trip.

Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, and House Speaker Lee Chatfield, R-Levering,

amp.detroitnews.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:25:42pm

re: #185 jaunte

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Charles Donald Stuart Trump.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:27:01pm

Trump counterargument: “Fuck the law, I want my win!!!”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:27:05pm

re: #170 The Pie Overlord!

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so change the rules after the election, which is what Donald’s special strike force team just said today that Dems were doing.

Super gaslighting

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:31:03pm
Associated Press: “Fighting to challenge an election he lost to President-elect Joe Biden, Trump has launched a barrage of lawsuits across the country. Top Republicans have stood behind him and said they will wait for those cases to be resolved before officially recognizing the winner, a standard that has no modern precedent.”

“But his attorneys have repeatedly made elementary errors in those high-profile cases: misspelling ‘poll watcher’ as ‘pole watcher,’ forgetting the name of the presiding judge during a hearing, inadvertently filing a Michigan lawsuit before an obscure court in Washington and having to refile complaints after erasing entire arguments they’re using to challenge results.”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:31:59pm

re: #190 dangerman

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Narrator: The issue has never been about the so-called lawsuits

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:32:28pm

re: #173 Dread Pirate Ron

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For an audience of one.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:32:58pm

By any means possible.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:34:01pm

re: #153 The Pie Overlord!

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Define “landslide” in this context, Sydney.

EVs? Biden’s won exactly as many EVs as Trump did in ‘16. And even if you flipped the states you insist that he Trump “won,” he would only increase his winning margin by 6 votes. For context, that would make him only slightly more of a “winner” than George the Lesser was and only the third president since Nixon in ‘68 to win less than 330 EVs.

PV? Again, even if you somehow flip those states, the vote margins in CA and NY mean Trump will never be able to claim a PV “landslide.” It would simply be another notch in the “EV win/PV loss” column for the Repubs.

Stick to conspiracy theories about the FBI out to get Flynn to make Trump look bad. Those at least seemed believable, even if totally at odds with…well, everything.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:34:25pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:37:47pm

The two minute warning for the Covid presser was 19 minutes ago.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:38:00pm

The last two weeks have demonstrated why “Run up the score” was such a vital and necessary strategy. If we were looking at 2016 turnout, Trump would be taking victory laps as we speak while the Dem leadership prepared to watch Congress return to a Repub majority for the next 2 years.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:39:44pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

It would be so delightful if both of these representatives jokers Told Trump to take a hike - sadly, I think they’ll wilt like delicate flowers that the GOP has become.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:39:59pm

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:40:34pm

At about the 1:40-1:50 mark of this trailer there’s a scene between the late great Sydney Pollack and George Clooney that I think is apt for this moment, and for the past four years:

Michael Clayton Trailer

“What would they do if he went public?”

“What would they do?….they’re doing it!”

This is basically the whole Trump presidency

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:40:46pm

re: #24 Florida Panhandler

Modern Libertarianism rejects democracy because ordinary citizens can have Reps introduce public sector spending legislation, regulations, and other limitations rather than just 100% “free market” bullshit. Democracy is now the enemy of Libertarians and in its place is the notion of a fantasy dictatorship that enforces Capitalism at all costs. Think Pinochet as an example.

They would like to see the voting franchise limited to white landowners, yes…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:41:45pm

re: #195 jaunte

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See how all the corporations and lawyers and countries are arrayed against the poor, defenseless, and noble Trump campaign?

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:45:43pm

re: #179 jaunte

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Quisling.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:46:11pm

Nebraska finally sneaked yesterday’s count into the old data.

Yesterday’s count.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:46:17pm

re: #179 jaunte

They’re going to be lucky if it’s only name and shame. It’s Michigan.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:46:20pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:48:00pm

I need some LGF expertise: Anyone have a recommendation for a cheap webcam/headset to hook up to my desktop so that I can resume some contact with the outside world (ie: sisters, friends and doctors). What apps should I use? We used Skype at work but I never used a cam, just audio. I’m extremely clueless.

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:49:10pm

re: #205 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’re going to be lucky if it’s only name and shame. It’s Michigan.

They should get a warm sendoff at the airport.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:49:17pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

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changing the rules after the election, etc

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:50:16pm

re: #151 Charmingly Persistent

I can’t stand Sarah Kendzior. Attacking and undermining your own side is just annoying and unhelpful. I am all for holding them accountable and urging them to do better - but saying that Nancy and her Vichy Democrats are the third greatest threat is Glenn Greenwald territory.

I used to have such a crush on Sarah, but what is her problem with Nancy Pelosi?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:51:23pm

re: #199 Rightwingconspirator

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:52:12pm

Did GA have their presser about the recount? I was away for a while.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:52:29pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

As #188 jaunte points out:

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:52:46pm

re: #212 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Did GA have their presser about the recount? I was away for a while.

Can’t find any sign of it.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:53:06pm

re: #212 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Did GA have their presser about the recount? I was away for a while.

I’m wondering that, too.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:53:20pm

re: #214 Decatur Deb

Can’t find any sign of it.

Donnie said that he and the RNC were having a YUGE presser today about GA. How’d that go? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:53:27pm

The longer Trump drags this out, the more likely that violence will erupt when he is officially declared the Loser

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:53:55pm

re: #213 Belafon

As #188 jaunte points out:

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In other words, Michigan law, and no fckin law anywhere in the US allows the Republicans to change the rules after an election

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:54:41pm

re: #216 Sir John Barron

Donnie said that he and the RNC were having a YUGE presser today about GA. How’d that go? //

Think that was Rudy and the other nutcase lawyers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:54:46pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

Somehow I have my doubts on how many GOP legislators are willing to throw themselves in front of a bus for Trump.

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mmmirele  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:56:59pm

Follow up story on the “affinity fraud” aka Ponzi scheme at Bethel Church Redding, where they love them some Donald Trump and have prophets saying he won the election. This is fallout from the Ponzi scheme where the perp tried to escape from the FBI by diving into Lake Shasta. Highlights:

1) The church’s website has had to warn about affinity fraud since at least 2014.

2) A massive affinity fraud took place there in the ’00s abd that perp is in prison.

3) This guy and his family had gone to Bethel dor a few years but weren’t actually members.

4) The scammer claimed to gave a personal line to Donald Trump.

This goes along with the usual Bethel stuff: prosperity gospel, COVID hotspot and “Christian Hogwarts”, and IMHO malign influence on Redding.

Worth a read.

sacbee.com

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:57:35pm
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bratwurst  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:57:55pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:59:32pm

I’m sure the plot to kidnap and possibly assassinate the MI governor wasn’t planned in conjunction with the idea of getting her out of the way so that the MI legislature could somehow overturn the election results in their state and award the state’s EC votes to the donald.

half sarc

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2020 • 1:59:44pm

re: #166 Dread Pirate Ron

I wish all Trump was doing was nothing. Instead he’s doing all he can to overturn the election results and mess things up for President Biden.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:01:20pm

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

Somehow I have my doubts on how many GOP legislators are willing to throw themselves in front of a bus for Trump.

We’ve said that before.

This is beyond impeachment, it’s our democracy.

I’m not so sure REPUBLICANS are on the side of democracy. So…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:02:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:03:00pm

re: #226 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Given that none have come out against what Trump is doing with the election, it’s obvious that Republicans will do anything (including keeping silent) to support him.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:04:18pm

re: #226 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

We’ve said that before.

This is beyond impeachment, it’s our democracy.

I’m not so sure REPUBLICANS are on the side of democracy. So…

The problem Trump has is that he has to get almost all of them to throw themselves in front of the bus. If a small fraction don’t, it won’t work.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:05:31pm

re: #229 Belafon

The problem Trump has is that he has to get almost all of them to throw themselves in front of the bus. If a small fraction don’t, it won’t work.

amazing that the GA SoS refused to bow before Zog.

That’s where we’re at, that I’m amazed by that.

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EPR-radar  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:06:45pm

re: #226 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

We’ve said that before.

This is beyond impeachment, it’s our democracy.

I’m not so sure REPUBLICANS are on the side of democracy. So…

Of course Republicans aren’t for democracy. So the thing to hope for is that these GOP state legislators realize that doing what Trump wants them to do is inconsistent with their innards remaining where they belong.

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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:06:45pm

re: #221 mmmirele

If they stood in front of a train, it would be the same thing. They’re that stupid, that gullible, and that deserving of being fleeced by one of their own. En masse, and individually, they are despicable people.

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EPR-radar  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:07:58pm

re: #230 Sir John Barron

amazing that the GA SoS refused to bow before Zog.

That’s where we’re at, that I’m amazed by that.

I’m sure the GOP will get right on that, by ensuring there is never again a GOP secretary of state in GA who isn’t a partisan hack.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:08:17pm

Yep.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:09:21pm

re: #234 Patricia Kayden

Yep.

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“He’ll be gone in 12 months” syndrome.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:10:09pm

re: #234 Patricia Kayden

Yep.

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As long as we’re all mad at Republicans and not Democrats because of it.

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EPR-radar  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:10:25pm

re: #234 Patricia Kayden

IMO that’s a false comparison. Impeachment was always doomed because GOP Senate and the Russia investigation was crippled by GOP control of DOJ. Trump’s legal clown shows were irrelevant to those travesties.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:10:49pm

re: #233 EPR-radar

I’m sure the GOP will get right on that, by ensuring there is never again a GOP secretary of state in GA who isn’t a partisan hack.

they hadn’t planned on losing GA. They’ll be more careful next time. //

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:10:57pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:11:29pm

re: #239 Dread Pirate Ron

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Charlie Kirk wants someone fired for this.

/

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:12:37pm

J. Fucking. C.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:13:08pm

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

J. Fucking. C.

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we lost because we won!

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:13:09pm

re: #237 EPR-radar

IMO that’s a false comparison. Impeachment was always doomed because GOP Senate and the Russia investigation was crippled by GOP control of DOJ. Trump’s legal clown shows were irrelevant to those travesties.

Pretty much. Saying that his lawyers “won” against impeachment assumes there was ever a realistic chance that he would be removed from office. Since there wasn’t, the “win” goes to his willing accomplices in the Senate Repub ranks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:13:41pm

The US has now cleared 12 million Covid cases. It was only four days and change ago that we cleared 11 million.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:13:48pm

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

J. Fucking. C.

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The certification that was completed?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:13:53pm

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

J. Fucking. C.

[Embedded content]

“we withdrew because we’re going to try to swing the state legislature!”

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:13:55pm

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

J. Fucking. C.

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It doesn’t work like that, you tangerine twat!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:14:05pm

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

J. Fucking. C.

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Down is up.
White is black.
Losing is winning.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:14:33pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Down is up.
White is black.
Losing is winning.

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:15:19pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Down is up.
White is black.
Losing is winning.

I prefer the original.

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:20:01pm

re: #242 Sir John Barron

we lost because we won!

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Down is up.
White is black.
Losing is winning.

re: #249 Targetpractice

We’re kind of like the media in that we can’t help but treat every statement he makes as if it’s law.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:21:34pm

i gotta get working

crispy panfried tofu with stir fried vegetables

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:22:44pm

Link for tonight’s pop up comedy show:

lwGzv9C2tolaOkzKaf+ak2piFHffY1HmxMnXOT+n9OHWLPlnnIbu/hMuVvBIFimcDUTcKbWGuuYdp49IE+Fh4T8GiWNppwC4Vs/uxSRCjGBaLCr2agtIzDYb0jieGUKa0IhCbqjoVcSDS76rye9g0A==

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:23:12pm

re: #244 Eclectic Cyborg

The US has now cleared 12 million Covid cases. It was only four days and change ago that we cleared 11 million.

Herd Immunity on the way!!!!!

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:24:06pm

re: #243 Targetpractice

Pretty much. Saying that his lawyers “won” against impeachment assumes there was ever a realistic chance that he would be removed from office. Since there wasn’t, the “win” goes to his willing accomplices in the Senate Repub ranks.

they stated the verdict they would render before they were sworn in

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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:27:35pm

Signs your inside guy might be defective.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:28:44pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

You know, people were unhappy that I was in such a sour mood on election night, but I stand by my initial, gut, reaction: that the inability of Biden to have coattails means that Trump could exploit the Republican dominated legislative bodies.

The sad realization I came to is that too many Republican Senators would be fine with a dictator Trump, as long as Trump dropped enough “Jesus” in his declaration.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:31:06pm
259
makeitstop  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:31:42pm

Here’s hoping Michigan isn’t the pushover that Trump hopes it’ll be.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:32:32pm

re: #258 Dread Pirate Ron

I love Raygun. One of the best thing about visiting my son when he was attending college near Des Moines.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:35:00pm

re: #259 makeitstop

Here’s hoping Michigan isn’t the pushover that Trump hopes it’ll be.

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good gosh man didn’t you watch Rudy’s elite strike force presser today?

////

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:35:48pm

re: #259 makeitstop

Here’s hoping Michigan isn’t the pushover that Trump hopes it’ll be.

[Embedded content]

He should also state that it’s dumb for the senate and house leaders to be going to DC at this time.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:38:23pm

LOL the new borat movie is hilarious

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:39:45pm

re: #263 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

LOL the new borat movie is hilarious

Have you gotten to the country song yet?

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:40:58pm

re: #230 Sir John Barron

amazing that the GA SoS refused to bow before Zog.

That’s where we’re at, that I’m amazed by that.

Krebs and his commission involving state and local election officials in proactive measures against voting fraud meant the election officials would have to admit they failed to do their job, in order to substantiate Trump’s unverifiable claims of fraudulent absentee and polling ballots.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:43:32pm

re: #265 BeenHereAwhile

Krebs and his commission involving state and local election officials in proactive measures against voting fraud meant the election officials would have to admit they failed to do their job, in order to substantiate Trump’s unverifiable claims of fraudulent absentee and polling ballots.

almost as if all the bulksmoke about voting “fraud” led to at least token efforts to prevent such ‘fraud’, which sort of interfered with attempts to claim such voter fraud actually occured later.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:45:02pm

Yikes

kron4.com

KRON4’s Ashley Zavala first reported that the limited stay-at-home order will put the curfew in place for 40+ counties in the purple tier and will be in effect from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. effective Saturday, Nov. 21 through 5 a.m. Dec. 21.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:46:15pm

re: #138 Acemarilllion

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Has the Vatican begun digging in to this blood-weeping statue? This could be a miracle.

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austin_blue  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:48:42pm

re: #266 Sir John Barron

almost as if all the bulksmoke about voting “fraud” led to at least token efforts to prevent such ‘fraud’, which sort of interfered with attempts to claim such voter fraud actually occured later.

Well, God is an Iron.

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:48:55pm
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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:50:38pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:51:30pm

re: #269 austin_blue

Well, God is an Iron.

Upding for the Spider Robinson reference.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:52:09pm

Let’s talk about 2020, 2021, food, and billionaires….

$15 billion.

Gates, Bezos or Bloomberg could do that without flinching.

Will one of them step up?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:52:46pm

re: #271 PrairieQueen

Huh?

Since when does the Second Amendment say shit about infectious diseases???

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austin_blue  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:53:40pm

re: #272 BeenHereAwhile

Upding for the Spider Robinson reference.

My dream is to be reborn in Callahan’s Saloon.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:53:50pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

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goodness gracious this is impeccable logic how can these states not automatically and immediately certify new election results based on Rudy’s claim?

///

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:54:46pm
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calochortus  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:54:47pm

I saw this posted over at FR. It seems perilously close to declaring Trump to be the Second Coming. And remarkably stupid.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:55:13pm

re: #278 calochortus

I saw this posted over at FR. It seems perilously close to declaring Trump to be the Second Coming. And remarkably stupid.

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all this meme is missing is a cross

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jamesfirecat  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:55:58pm

re: #279 Sir John Barron

all this meme is missing is a cross

For your viewing pleasure….

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calochortus  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:57:17pm

re: #279 Sir John Barron

all this meme is missing is a cross

Actually, it strikes me as an invitation for a nutcase to try to crucify (or otherwise ritually kill) Trump and wait for him to return to life. Maybe at Bethel Church in Redding? Oh wait, that didn’t work for them with that poor girl that died.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:57:35pm

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Huh?

Since when does the Second Amendment say shit about infection diseases???

Because the whiney pukes won’t want to wear a mask. much less stand 6 feet away from each other
They’ll stay away from the show
They won’t spend money on more un-needed firearms and accessories.
Therefore the disease controls are impacting their 2nd Amendment Grifting Rights.

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PrairieQueen  Nov 19, 2020 • 2:58:30pm

Remember when it was “person, woman, man, camera, TV”? I dare him to be evaluated now, because all they’d have to ask is who won the election, and he’d go off in his fantasy tirade.

He’s not sane and he’s not fit for office. That’s aside from all the lying and manipulation. The guy is batshit fucking crazy.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:02:16pm

re: #283 PrairieQueen

Remember when it was “person, woman, man, camera, TV”? I dare him to be evaluated now, because all they’d have to ask is who won the election, and he’d go off in his fantasy tirade.

He’s not sane and he’s not fit for office. That’s aside from all the lying and manipulation. The guy is batshit fucking crazy.

He must be impeached again.

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:02:19pm

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:04:23pm

re: #278 calochortus

I saw this posted over at FR. It seems perilously close to declaring Trump to be the Second Coming. And remarkably stupid.

[Embedded content]

Idjits.

Mark 13:21-22
Revised Standard Version
21 And then if any one says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. 22 False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:05:09pm

NEW THREAD, PEOPLE!!!

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:07:52pm

re: #250 jamesfirecat

I prefer the original.

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

and also

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:16:52pm

re: #282 William Lewis

Because the whiney pukes won’t want to wear a mask. much less stand 6 feet away from each other
They’ll stay away from the show
They won’t spend money on more un-needed firearms and accessories.
Therefore the disease controls are impacting their 2nd Amendment Grifting Rights.

Let them have their gunshow. Widows sell serious pieces for a song.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:18:37pm

re: #275 austin_blue

My dream is to be reborn in Callahan’s Saloon.

The only money that’s good is a stack of US $1.00 bills.

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Danack  Nov 19, 2020 • 3:37:12pm

re: #207 stpaulbear

I need some LGF expertise: Anyone have a recommendation for a cheap webcam/headset to hook up to my desktop so that I can resume some contact with the outside world (ie: sisters, friends and doctors). What apps should I use? We used Skype at work but I never used a cam, just audio. I’m extremely clueless.

For webcams, Logitech are all pretty good. Both the Logitech C270 (about $40) and Logitech C525 ($60) Logitech C920 (around $100) are fine for normal work.

I strongly recommend using whereby rather than skype or zoom, which are both terrible.

Whereby works in a browser, doesn’t spy on your computer, and is actually pleasant to use: whereby.com

I’d also recommend getting a 3.5mm extension cable, and any old headphones. Although you can have one-to-one meetings and the software is able to cancel out one persons noise, as soon as you have more than two people on a call, background and echo’ing noise becomes quite annoying.

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2020 • 4:58:00pm

re: #291 Danack

Thanks! I’m glad I kept reading all the way to the bottom.


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