A Story About the Power of Baseball: James Taylor, “Angels of Fenway”

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James Taylor’s tribute to the @Boston Red Sox from the 2015 album “Before This World.” Available now: http://smarturl.it/BeforeThisWorldD2C

LYRICS
86 summers gone by
Bambino put a hex on the Bean
We were livin’ on a tear and a sigh
In the shadow of the Bronx machine

Man, you could feel it smolder
Whole town had an attitude
Tend to get a little chip on your shoulder
Say something that’s downright rude

Damn them Yankees
Outspending everybody 2 to 1
Picking up on the cream of the crop
Stealing everyone’s favorite son

Angels of Fenway – hear our prayer
We have been chastened
We have been patient

Grandmama was a Fenway fan
Even after grandad died
I still remember her holding my hand
Takin’ me along for the ride
She was born in 1918
Last year that the Red Sox won
Back then when they sold the Babe
Something that they never should have
Ever have done

“Hey Nanna can I have another Coke
Here comes the hot dog man
Look at that! His bat just broke
Gee, that’s got to kill his hand”

Riding home on the Green Line
Watching the town go by
Nanna made another Red Sox fan
‘Til the day I die

That was back in ’65
Doesn’t seem like a long time ago
Grandmama keeping hope alive
Watched them win in ‘004

Oh my god, it was beyond belief
Down 3 needing 4 in a row
Holding on by the skin of our teeth
Like a hungry dog on a bone

Angels of Fenway – give them peace
They have been patient
Red Sox Nation

The whole world held its breath
People got down on their knees
Ready for the sudden death
Praying to heaven for hell to freeze

Nanna watched from her hospital bed
She was there ’til the end of the race
I couldn’t hear the last words she said
But she was lying there with a smile on her face

Just a little smile on her face
Doesn’t feel like a long time ago

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153 comments
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:17:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:21:17pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:21:23pm

You know trump, the whiney bitch that he is, is going to try to upstage the inauguration.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:21:55pm

Hey, we don’t need to say FUCK TRUMP any more because Trump is fucked.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:22:38pm

re: #3 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You know trump, the whiney bitch that he is, is going to try to upstage the inauguration.

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I’m sure Four Seasons Landscaping would be willing to host Trump for his “inauguration”.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:23:29pm

CL (pbuh)ed from last thread.
re: #164 teleskiguy

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dangerman  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:25:48pm

They’re falling fast now
toomey
Now cheney

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:27:12pm

That was a nice song. Thanks, Charles. I love James Taylor.

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TarHellion  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:29:35pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

Some 50 years from now, historians will unearth the truth as to why Geraldo Rivera had a media career after the Al Capone fiasco.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:30:02pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:32:44pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:33:21pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:33:27pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

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Ho-ly SHIT.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:34:23pm

re: #7 dangerman

They’re falling fast now
toomey
Now cheney

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Yeah Trump attacked Cheney pretty quick.

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Cheechako  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:36:51pm

Thanks for the memories Charles. My Nana was a life long Red Sox fan. Took the bus into Boston to watch many a game and otherwise, listened to every game on the radio. She knew the statistics for every player. She loved the Sox.

Unfortunately, didn’t live long enough to see them win the World Series.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:37:19pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

I don’t think trump is going to be able be the disruption he wants to be because I think NY State is going to keep him really busy.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:38:06pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:39:56pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:40:09pm

re: #17 jaunte

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In two weeks.

No, but seriously: Time is kinda of the essence for these idjits. Do they not realize that there isn’t a lot of time before the appointed slates of electors meet and vote this fucker out?

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:40:49pm

@AndrewFeinberg

Powell is now claiming that Democrats somehow added 35,000 votes to every Democratic candidate’s vote total in every state.

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A Cranky One  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:40:52pm

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:42:20pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:42:26pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:42:30pm

re: #20 jaunte

@AndrewFeinberg

Powell is now claiming that Democrats somehow added 35,000 votes to every Democratic candidate’s vote total in every state.

If we could do that, wouldn’t we have won, um, ALL the elections?

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:42:42pm
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TarHellion  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:43:58pm

While we may have won, I remain in fear of our democracy. The folks I work with - college educated, yet utterly devout fundamentalists - are but a fraction of the core support FFVCS has tapped into. The uneducated, racist goobers long ago went that way.

My county went 76 percent for FFVCS, which was an INCREASE of his total from 4 years ago. The only solace is that my county likely lost population when and if an accurate census it totaled.

But as a student of political science, I cannot deny we are at a Weimar Republic stage in our history. One of our two major parties is willing to completely undermine democratic election results. They are desperate to maintain white, authoritarian control.

By whatever means necessary.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:44:41pm

Typical thousands-involved-super-sekrit plot.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:45:00pm

re: #22 jaunte

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Holy fucking shit. They’re literally insane. They’re rapidly approaching the tipping point which defines the worst possible conspiracy theory - the point in which every single person in the world, except for the conspiracy theorists themselves, must have been “in on it”. This happens when the number of people and groups who are supposedly “in on it” grows so large that, by extension, literally everyone in the world must have knowledge of the plot.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:46:19pm

re: #180 Cheechako

Covid continuing…

Alaska virus cases continue to swell, with 676 new cases and one new death reported Saturday

We’re having the same problem here.

State of Nebraska Covid-19 Dashboard

Testing percentage positive: 17.6%
Active hospitalisations: 963 (-24)
Deaths: 905 (+43, woman and girls are 43% of deaths)
Total positive cases: 113,029 (approaching 1% of the state population)
Total hospital beds available: 27% (at 25% Governor Ricketts will impose closures)

Locally:

Panhandle Public Health District Covid-19 Dashboard

Testing percentage positive: 20.7%
Active hospitalisations: 82
Deaths: 47 (no change since yesterday)
Total positive cases: 5,212 (more than 5% of the Panhandle population)
Total hospital beds available: 32%

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TarHellion  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:46:20pm

re: #27 jaunte

And yet they gained seats in the House and did not outright lose the Senate.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:46:55pm

re: #27 jaunte

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Typical thousands-involved-super-sekrit plot.

Blaming the front line poll workers is going to work against Trump Team…….

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b.d. (We Won!)  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:47:36pm

re: #30 TarHellion

And yet they gained seats in the House and did not outright lose the Senate.

Worst/Best rigging ever!

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:48:03pm

re: #30 TarHellion

She’s just hallucinating now.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:48:56pm

re: #33 jaunte

She’s just hallucinating now.

Whatever she’s on, that shit needs to get destroyed, for everybody’s sake.

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:49:43pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:49:46pm

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:49:55pm

Squid beasts from the Crab Nebula re-inked critical Trump ballots in battleground states.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:50:30pm
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jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:50:35pm

re: #26 TarHellion

While we may have won, I remain in fear of our democracy. The folks I work with - college educated, yet utterly devout fundamentalists - are but a fraction of the core support FFVCS has tapped into. The uneducated, racist goobers long ago went that way.

My county went 76 percent for FFVCS, which was an INCREASE of his total from 4 years ago. The only solace is that my county likely lost population when and if an accurate census it totaled.

But as a student of political science, I cannot deny we are at a Wehrmacht Republic in our history. One of our two major parties is willing to completely undermine democratic election results. They are desperate to maintain white, authoritarian control.

By whatever means necessary.

I think you mean Weimar Republic, the Wehrmacht was the German Army in WW2.

That said we have something the Weimar Repulic didn’t, it was created in the wake of loosing a war and had only been around for less than four decades before Hitler came to power, America has been a democracy for over 200 years, we can still all too easily slip into being a “democracy” with “elections” like Russia is right now, but the fact that we’ve established rules and institutions does count for something even if it isn’t as much as it should have.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:51:22pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:52:14pm

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:52:37pm

re: #25 Belafon

The judge in the Pennsylvania case, Matthew Brann, is a Republican who,before his nomination, was involved in Republican politics

That’s actually pretty depressing.

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lawhawk  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:52:48pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

There’s no indication that AG James has 67 indictments ready.

I think that’s someone pulling a number out of their arse. I do believe indictments are coming, but have no idea of the scope or number.

I do know that if the SDNY is able to pursue cases against Trump, Trump faces at least 4 charges in connection to Michael Cohen’s felony case: wire/mail fraud, election finance fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy.

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TarHellion  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:53:10pm

re: #39 jamesfirecat

You are correct. Too much bourbon, my friend.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:53:12pm

re: #38 jaunte

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It truly frightens me to see conspiracy theories go mainstream. 9/11 Trutherism was just the beginning.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:54:23pm

re: #44 TarHellion

You are correct. Too much bourbon, my friend.

Liar. There is no such thing.

/half
//I have had “those mornings”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:54:24pm

Plague city update:

11% of the population has tested positive.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:54:35pm

re: #42 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s actually pretty depressing.

Given how he dismissed their motion with prejudice (or am I talking about the wrong person?), I actually find it invigorating and encouraging, they stacked the courts with the biggest Republican followers they could find… and these people are still ruling in favor of the law instead of putting party over country.

Like I’m sure they’re gonna go be horrible in a million other small and not so small ways… but they’re not on board the coup train to Banana Republicville…

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:55:40pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Understood. TYT appears to be the source.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:56:12pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Just 18 beds left doesn’t sound good.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:58:50pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:59:04pm

re: #50 jaunte

Just 18 beds left doesn’t sound good.

They’re getting tents ready at the two big medical centers. I have never been gladder that I got out of that place. We have had zero cases here at the Conspiracy Compound (pop. 4).

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lawhawk  Nov 21, 2020 • 6:59:53pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

They have nothing on South Dakota, which apparently has decided to lie about ICU bed availability statewide.

They’ve conflated ICU and NICU beds to give appearance that they have more capacity than they actually do.

And it doesn’t matter, because the deaths will come, the ICUs and hospitals will be overwhelmed, and the staff will continue to get sick from exposures, and the GOPers will claim all is well as their constituents die horribly.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:01:20pm

re: #42 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s actually pretty depressing.

And totally contradicts Powell.

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Skandal  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:01:49pm
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lawhawk  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:02:21pm

re: #53 lawhawk

You know the nation is fucked…. when 1/3 of the Mayo Clinic staff is out due to covid19 - either directly infected or quarantining to prevent spread to other staff.

93% of the infections there were community spread with the remainder from eating in the break room.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:03:26pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:04:22pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:05:58pm

re: #45 thedopefishlives

It truly frightens me to see conspiracy theories go mainstream. 9/11 Trutherism was just the beginning.

But they’re so stupid now I think may be turning a corner back to sanity.

Sure, some are lost but any we can get back are welcome.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:06:01pm

re: #58 jaunte

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“Big Tech, Big Media, Corrupt Democrat”

Ugh. This turning of everything into an us-versus-them slugfest is making me ill.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:07:11pm

re: #60 thedopefishlives

I encourage conservatives to throw away all their Big Tech in protest.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:07:46pm

re: #48 jamesfirecat

Given how he dismissed their motion with prejudice (or am I talking about the wrong person?), I actually find it invigorating and encouraging, they stacked the courts with the biggest Republican followers they could find… and these people are still ruling in favor of the law instead of putting party over country.

Like I’m sure they’re gonna go be horrible in a million other small and not so small ways… but they’re not on board the coup train to Banana Republicville…

Don’t get me wrong, I’m thankful, but I can’t imagine the vast majority of judges playing this Sedition game.

What do the re rest of his decisions look like. That’s all I’m saying.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:07:58pm

Bring back Letters to the Editor!

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:12:42pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

Understood. TYT appears to be the source.

Remember too: SDNY has the nickname “Sovereign District of New York”. They seem to keep stuff under their hat. Hoping for many press releases from them in late January!

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calochortus  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:19:20pm

According to one Jordan Sekulow (son of Jay and also apparently a Trump lawyer) there is going to be a new, huge and entirely new lawsuit coming to Georgia on Monday or Tuesday. Whole new issue which will blow the election wide open.
Freepers are ranging from cautious to enthusiastic. More and more seem to be becoming resigned to the fact that the election may have been stolen, but they can’t stop it.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:20:38pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:20:53pm

re: #27 jaunte

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Typical thousands-involved-super-sekrit plot.

Oh sure, thousands of people just managed to conceal a huge conspiracy without a SINGLE one of them leaking or wavering.

Seems legit.

/

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:21:06pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:21:17pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:21:40pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

The fabled super-disciplined Libninjas.

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:23:21pm

Invest in tin foil hat futures.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:23:41pm

re: #70 jaunte

The fabled super-disciplined Libninjas.

Soros Samurai.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:24:16pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:24:18pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:26:42pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

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Mattand  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:27:13pm

I’m very proud of the fact that I just figured out FFVCS means without any help.

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retired cynic  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:28:21pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Glad to see GDF! Thanks!

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Mattand  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:31:29pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

Invest in tin foil hat futures.

Powell now telling Newsmax that Bernie Sanders actually won the Democratic primary in 2016 but the machines were rigged to give Hillary Clinton the win, says Sanders knows but he was paid off to keep quiet.

Unfortunately, my Bernie Bro former neighbor would believe this without hesitation.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:33:12pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:34:25pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:35:42pm

This thread is hysterical. Mostly Canadian with some US thrown in. Just for fun.

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TarHellion  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:38:10pm

I covered local news - from sports to local government - until 2012. Saw the handwriting on the wall. Up until that time, we would give the masses a report of EVERYTHING that happened at a ballgame, council meeting, or county commission gathering.

Once I left the local newspaper, I saw its gradual destruction. The paper no longer is printed on-site. Instead, any government meeting gets a “round-up” three days after it happens. And no reporter has any local ties to the community.

I had already seen the horrors of a local website - Topix - posting any and all social commentary as a forerunner to Facebook. Now it is in full, global display.

Even when FFVCS ultimately loses, he will be running a shadow presidency for the next four years, with the full support of our “unbiased” and utterly biased media. And just like Berlusconi in Italy, he will continue his grip of power.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:42:37pm

re: #82 TarHellion

I covered local news - from sports to local government - until 2012. Saw the handwriting on the wall. Up until that time, we would give the masses a report of EVERYTHING that happened at a ballgame, council meeting, or county commission gathering.

Once I left the local newspaper, I saw its gradual destruction. The paper no longer is printed on-site. Instead, any government meeting gets a “round-up” three days after it happens. And no reporter has any local ties to the community.

I had already seen the horrors of a local website - Topix - posting any and all social commentary as a forerunner to Facebook. Now it is in full, global display.

Even when FFVCS ultimately loses, he will be running a shadow presidency for the next four years, with the full support of our “unbiased” and utterly biased media. And just like Berlusconi in Italy, he will continue his grip of power.

No one in America has even been able to convince the media to depict them as a “shadow president” and it’ll be even harder to do while either holding rallies and or fighting off court cases.

Please remember Trump isn’t some brilliant mastermind, yeah he’ll keep flailing away, but once he’s no longer actually the President, he’ll just be another kook in a country full of them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:44:01pm

re: #75 jaunte

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Unfortunately, she will probably have a mild or even asymptomatic case and then be free to reinforce the lie that there is nothing to it.

I was going to ask the group here whether anyone knew the status of Crede Bailey, the one WH staffer who apparently contracted a serious case of the disease. He seemed to have dropped off the face of the earth since early October when it was reported that he was gravely ill. But I just found the following gofundme page which is very disturbing if true. The WH has been absolutely silent about this.

This is a campaign to help Crede Bailey and his family with medical and healing expenses necessary as a result of Crede’s COVID-19 illness and the life-altering results. First let me say that Crede will NOT be happy I’ve done this as he is a proud man who is the first to help everyone else but would never ask for help himself.

But the reality is this. His family has staggering medical bills from a hospital stay of 2+ months and still counting in the ICU and a long road ahead in rehab before he can go home. When he does make it home there will be major changes necessary to deal with his new, and permanent, disability.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:44:24pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:45:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:45:25pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Maybe you should run against her in 2022.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:46:30pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:49:18pm

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:49:25pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:49:38pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maybe you should run against her in 2022.

I’d rather ski everyday.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:51:11pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:51:48pm

re: #84 Hecuba’s daughter

I see a lot of questions being asked about Crede Bailey on twitter, but no answers.

$25,000 seems like a relative pittance to cover this:

“His family has staggering medical bills from a hospital stay of 2+ months and still counting in the ICU and a long road ahead in rehab before he can go home. When he does make it home there will be major changes necessary to deal with his new, and permanent, disability. “

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:55:13pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 21, 2020 • 7:57:56pm

re: #93 jaunte

I see a lot of questions being asked about Crede Bailey on twitter, but no answers.

$25,000 seems like a relative pittance to cover this:

I am skeptical about the legitimacy of this fundraiser but do wonder if there is something to the health claims. It certainly suggests he is still in ICU. I would imagine as a WH employee that he has good health care.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:01:46pm

re: #91 teleskiguy

I’d rather ski everyday.

Well, Trump already set that standard with golf.

I imagine you could do more in two hours than he does in two weeks.

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William Lewis  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:03:13pm

I see that Jonathan Pollard has officially finished his parole and is expected to move to Israel soon. Pity. Pardon me but I am one of those who feels he should have never been released.

npr.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:06:11pm

re: #84 Hecuba’s daughter

There’s a second GoFundMe also set up by her, but it has no money.

ca.gofundme.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:07:28pm

If we only had competent leadership and no REPUBLICANS.

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:08:53pm

Jesus fuck, this fucking guy.

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garzooma  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:15:43pm

re: #82 TarHellion

Even when FFVCS ultimately loses, he will be running a shadow presidency for the next four years, with the full support of our “unbiased” and utterly biased media. And just like Berlusconi in Italy, he will continue his grip of power.

Another example was in Mexico. From the Atlantic:

The World Leader Backing Trump’s State of Denial
Presidents and their challengers haven’t always admitted defeat. Just look at Mexico.
[…]
And in this way, too, López Obrador’s experience highlights the tensions inherent in the implicit requirement of democracies that losers concede: He didn’t admit defeat, and, in the end, he was more successful for it.

His two unsuccessful campaigns for president, and his insistence both times that victory had been wrongfully taken from him, sowed the seeds for a third and eventually successful bid.[…]

In López Obrador’s case, refusing to concede didn’t doom his political career. Instead, his obstinacy helped him triumph.

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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:24:41pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:28:58pm

El Paso Texas, which Ted Cruz “represents.”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:29:06pm

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stpaulbear  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:31:12pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:32:51pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:33:20pm

re: #102 jaunte

Ted Cruz: COME AND TAKE GET IT.

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BeachDem  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:37:03pm

re: #15 Cheechako

Thanks for the memories Charles. My Nana was a life long Red Sox fan. Took the bus into Boston to watch many a game and otherwise, listened to every game on the radio. She knew the statistics for every player. She loved the Sox.

Unfortunately, didn’t live long enough to see them win the World Series.

My parents were Boston-born in 1919 and died in 1988/1989, so lived their whole lives without ever seeing the Sox win a series.

As a lifelong Red Sox fan and a huge James Taylor fan, this song made my night—can’t believe I never heard it before.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:38:06pm

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BeachDem  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:39:06pm

re: #17 jaunte

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Just wanted to point out that before Brann was appointed by Obama, per wiki, he also spent years as a Republican Party official in Pennsylvania and was active in the Federalist Society and National Rifle Association

Sorry for repeated this info—that’s what I get for not reading the whole thread first.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:39:26pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:40:14pm

Black Rifle Coffee isn’t sponsoring him, though they are using him for promotion.

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BigPapa  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:42:03pm

I don’t mean to popcorn ceiling shame but heya ho hum:

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stpaulbear  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:46:39pm
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jaunte  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:47:17pm

A Georgia Republican, counting votes.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:50:44pm

re: #88 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Bridge too far for Senator Toomey. Best he can manage is Biden is “projected winner” and other such profiles in courage.
Yes, he did acknowledge Biden won PA, but nothing on assault on democracy and attempted sedition. Real profile in courage.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 21, 2020 • 8:53:55pm

To quote an emperor from a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, “Good…..good. Let the hate flow through you!”

“Do it!”

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BigPapa  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:14:28pm

I just found out that the GOP governor is in on a conspiracy to have Hugo Chavez getting Biden elected.

We thought Le Rudes is brilliant but Sidney Powell is next level.

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:17:42pm

I genuinely am beginning to suspect that I’m going to wake up sometime in the next 1-2 months to hear “WH preparing for second Trump inauguration.”

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:20:55pm

❤️Matthew Brann❤️

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cat-tikvah  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:21:13pm

Well, color me amazed.
Spineless Pat Toomey DID put out a statement that it’s time for Trump to concede and congratulate Biden.
I give him a full vertebra for that.
Still needs to condemn attempted sedition.

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:26:10pm

re: #121 cat-tikvah

Well, color me amazed.
Spineless Pat Toomey DID put out a statement that it’s time for Trump to concede and congratulate Biden.
I give him a full vertebra for that.
Still needs to condemn attempted sedition.

It’s never going to happen. The farthest that the “brave” Repubs will ever go is saying that Donny gave it his best, he lost, so he needs to concede. When challenged on the seditious nature of his efforts to overturn the election in the courts or by bribing/threatening legislatures to override the will of voters, they’ll suddenly notice they’re “late” for a meeting and disappear.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:29:59pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

Looks like it’s been deleted.

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thecommodore  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:31:48pm

re: #32 b.d. (We Won!)

Worst/Best rigging ever!

Just like the deep state paid Christopher Steele to compile the “fake dossier” only to have the Clinton campaign not use it.

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teleskiguy  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:32:38pm

re: #123 Belafon

He deleted that two tweet thread to correct a typo.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:34:02pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

I genuinely am beginning to suspect that I’m going to wake up sometime in the next 1-2 months to hear “WH preparing for second Trump inauguration.”

If Trump manages to win because of depraved courts or depraved legislatures, there will be blood. It will be the end of the American experiment accompanied by widespread violence on the streets. And Putin will be celebrating in Moscow.

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:34:48pm

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

If Trump manages to win because of depraved courts or depraved legislatures, there will be blood. It will be the end of the American experiment accompanied by widespread violence on the streets. And Putin will be celebrating in Moscow.

If pigs fly there will be shit falling from the skies.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:37:49pm

re: #125 teleskiguy

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cat-tikvah  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:38:11pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

Oh I know! He only got one vertebra for that. Not a whole spine, which he lacks and will never find.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:39:00pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

I genuinely am beginning to suspect that I’m going to wake up sometime in the next 1-2 months to hear “WH preparing for second Trump inauguration.”

33 losses in court is causing you to think he’s going to get a second term?

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:40:09pm

And BTW, while it’s unlikely the SCOTUS will ever accept a Trump election case that could overturn the election in the first place, if they do, the worst I expect is 8:1. (Because Thomas is that bad.)

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:40:54pm

re: #130 Belafon

33 losses in court is causing you to think he’s going to get a second term?

Pretty sure he is pointing out their distance from reality.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:41:44pm

re: #132 Nyet

Pretty sure he is pointing out their distance from reality.

On a second read, I can see that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:43:31pm

re: #131 Nyet

And BTW, while it’s unlikely the SCOTUS will ever accept a Trump election case that could overturn the election in the first place, if they do, the worst I expect is 8:1. (Because Thomas is that bad.)

And so are Kavanaugh, Alito, and Aunt Lydia.

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Belafon  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:43:49pm

re: #131 Nyet

And BTW, while it’s unlikely the SCOTUS will ever accept a Trump election case that could overturn the election in the first place, if they do, the worst I expect is 8:1. (Because Thomas is that bad.)

Yep, because all of these are state level decisions, and they’re all based on state laws. And Robert’s and company are leading us down a states’ rights uber alles path.

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:44:23pm

re: #134 Hecuba’s daughter

And so are Kavanaugh, Alito, and Aunt Lydia.

And they would vote against Trump on this issue.

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:50:38pm

re: #130 Belafon

33 losses in court is causing you to think he’s going to get a second term?

Look at his screaming at Biden beginning to pick and vet a cabinet, which is something totally expected of a president-elect. Donny is so deluded that he’s still gonna pull this off that it’s almost inevitable that the orders to begin preparing for his second inauguration will come down any day now.

138
William Lewis  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:50:54pm

re: #131 Nyet

And BTW, while it’s unlikely the SCOTUS will ever accept a Trump election case that could overturn the election in the first place, if they do, the worst I expect is 8:1. (Because Thomas is that bad.)

Alito, Barret and Kavanaugh all make Thomas look competent and honorable. The fascists will always have at least 4 votes on any case.

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:51:04pm

re: #135 Belafon

Yep, because all of these are state level decisions, and they’re all based on state laws. And Robert’s and company are leading us down a states’ rights uber alles path.

That, and there is, very simply, no case. Even to use as a fig leaf. This has been shown time again by numerous Republican judges, including Trump appointees, tossing out the lawsuits without further ado. No “there” there. SCOTUS would not be different, but since everything is that clear after that many cases at this point of time, it’s unlikely SCOTUS will even accept any such case for a review.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:52:20pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

I genuinely am beginning to suspect that I’m going to wake up sometime in the next 1-2 months to hear “WH preparing for second Trump inauguration.”

At Mar-a-Lago, presumably. Where Trump can be the President-for-Life of the Republic of Mar-a-Lago. 😄

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:52:59pm

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

At Mar-a-Lago, presumably. Where Trump can be the President-for-Life of the Republic of Mar-a-Lago. 😄

Don’t wish that on the good people of Mar-a-Lago. Away with the dicktater!

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Targetpractice  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:53:47pm

Smartest thing the USSC bench could choose to do at this point would be simply to announce that they won’t hear the appeal, that the lower court dismissal will be allowed to stand. Barring that, the next most likely would be to agree to hear the appeal, allow Rudy and Co. to make fools of themselves on the national stage, and then rule to allow the lower court ruling to stand. And the last most likely would to be hear the appeal, and then bounce it back down to the lower court for the final kick in the jimmies.

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thecommodore  Nov 21, 2020 • 9:56:15pm

re: #131 Nyet

And BTW, while it’s unlikely the SCOTUS will ever accept a Trump election case that could overturn the election in the first place, if they do, the worst I expect is 8:1. (Because Thomas is that bad.)

Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Barrett are all that bad. I don’t see Roberts or Gorsuch going along with it.

But then again, you can barely be sure the sun will come up in the morning these days…

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 21, 2020 • 10:00:28pm

re: #139 Nyet

That, and there is, very simply, no case. Even to use as a fig leaf. This has been shown time again by numerous Republican judges, including Trump appointees, tossing out the lawsuits without further ado. No “there” there. SCOTUS would not be different, but since everything is that clear after that many cases at this point of time, it’s unlikely SCOTUS will even accept any such case for a review.

It’s not these law suits that concern me; it’s questions like: what if state level Republicans refuse to certify results or if GOP legislatures appoint a competing slate of electors (as happened in 1876). What if those are the decisions facing SCOTUS? An originalist interpretation of Article II may allow that to go forward.

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Nyet  Nov 21, 2020 • 10:07:09pm

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not these law suits that concern me; it’s questions like: what if state level Republicans refuse to certify results or if GOP legislatures appoint a competing slate of electors (as happened in 1876). What if those are the decisions facing SCOTUS? An originalist interpretation of Article II may allow that to go forward.

In PA case I will start worrying about that only if and when this changes (and the time is running out, and after the decision I don’t see it happening):

“We have said it many times and we will happily say it again,” Corman and House Majority leader Kerry Benninghoff wrote in an op-ed earlier last month. “The Pennsylvania General Assembly does not have and will not have a hand in choosing the state’s presidential electors or in deciding the outcome of the presidential election.”

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 21, 2020 • 10:22:49pm

This is a “Flight 93 Election”?

Who are the terrorists?

Who’s on the flight deck?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 22, 2020 • 4:57:36am

re: #9 TarHellion

Some 50 years from now, historians will unearth the truth as to why Geraldo Rivera had a media career after the Al Capone fiasco.

The Stonecutters obviously.
/

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 22, 2020 • 5:00:36am

re: #28 thedopefishlives

Holy fucking shit. They’re literally insane. They’re rapidly approaching the tipping point which defines the worst possible conspiracy theory - the point in which every single person in the world, except for the conspiracy theorists themselves, must have been “in on it”. This happens when the number of people and groups who are supposedly “in on it” grows so large that, by extension, literally everyone in the world must have knowledge of the plot.

Which is enough people to not need a conspiracy since if they voted for Biden legitimately… Biden would win.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 22, 2020 • 5:10:36am

re: #115 jaunte

And I doubt this is “Antifa” doing the attempted hacks and making threats.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 22, 2020 • 5:13:20am

re: #131 Nyet

And BTW, while it’s unlikely the SCOTUS will ever accept a Trump election case that could overturn the election in the first place, if they do, the worst I expect is 8:1. (Because Thomas is that bad.)

The dissent on that decision would probably be interesting just to see how wackadoodle and convoluted its logic (or lack of) would be.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 22, 2020 • 5:19:43am

re: #134 Hecuba’s daughter

Clarence Thomas is the type who will help send blacks “back to Africa“ or simply shoved into the Atlantic. He is a true believer and a psychopath.

The rest of the Conservative court will not back Trump as his usefulness towards their cause is dead for now. He has failed and they know it. But they are continuing the long game of erasing the era of 1870-2016 from US memory and rewriting all of US history in the process. Trump has been nothing more to them but a tool to be used and nothing more. He is expendable in their war against 98% of the world.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 22, 2020 • 5:20:17am

re: #137 Targetpractice

Look at his screaming at Biden beginning to pick and vet a cabinet, which is something totally expected of a president-elect. Donny is so deluded that he’s still gonna pull this off that it’s almost inevitable that the orders to begin preparing for his second inauguration will come down any day now.

He seems to have made stolen a lot of money from the last one, why not.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 22, 2020 • 5:56:08am

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

I cannot tell the satire from the true-believers; Poe’s Law holds.


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