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1
Sherlock Hound  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:09:03am

FT

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:09:29am

Don’t go in the shed, you can have something yummy later on.

Even for TR, this is kinda weird.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:10:21am

Fucking asshole.

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:11:04am

Boris Johnson: Yay, the UK is the first country to authorize an anti COVID-19 vaccine!

Vladimir Putin: Who needs authorization — Start the vaccinations immediately!

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:12:50am

This brings back memories of a trick Dad pulled on me.

When I was 4 years old we had dinner in our living room. TV was showing Warner Brothers cartoons. Mom bought out the dinner plates and hmmm thought it was chicken I was eating.

Bugs Bunny cartoon was on the TV. Dad said, “You know what you’re eating, Joey? You’re eating Bugs Bunny!”

I was horrified ran upstairs to my bedroom and cried thinking Mom and Dad killed Bugs Bunny. Dad went upstairs to try to calm me but I kept screaming at him…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:13:21am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking asshole.

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Be Best!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:13:44am

re: #4 John Hughes

Boris Johnson: Yay, the UK is the first country to authorize an anti COVID-19 vaccine!

Vladimir Putin: Who needs authorization — Start the vaccinations immediately!

Weren’t there reports that Russians refused to take the vaccine because they were skeptical about its safety and effectiveness?

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:14:05am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking asshole.

Yes, he’s an asshole. Frankly the 224 who refused to admit that Biden won are worse.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:15:23am

re: #5 🌹UOJB!

This brings back memories of a trick Dad pulled on me.

When I was 4 years old we had dinner in our living room. TV was showing Warner Brothers cartoons. Mom bought out the dinner plates and hmmm thought it was chicken I was eating.

Bugs Bunny cartoon was on the TV. Dad said, “You know what you’re eating, Joey? You’re eating Bugs Bunny!”

I was horrified ran upstairs to my bedroom and cried thinking Mom and Dad killed Bugs Bunny. Dad went upstairs to try to calm me but I kept screaming at him…

Heh. About that same age, my son was putting ketchup son something. I started pronouncing it “cat soup” and he freaked out at me for saying something so mean about our cats.

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dat_said  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:18:03am

re: #314 Barefoot Grin

That’s really something—great photos. After college a couple of friends and I met up at a friend’s uncle’s place in Minnesota in order to drive around the PNW. When driving across ND my friend was going about 100MPH saying “you can see fifty miles in front of you, it’s not like they can set a speed trap here” before a state trooper appeared behind us.

The folks who run ghostsofnorthdakota.com and ghostsofminnesota.com do a great job with their photos. I can get lost on those for hours.

Yeah, some places you can see for miles. So can the troopers. Plus, they sometimes use planes as part of the speed limit enforcement. Montana used to have no defined daytime speed limit beyond “reasonable and prudent”. Back in the 70s when federal law (loss of highway funds) set nationwide speed limit to 55mph, Montana would issue $5 fines for “unnecessary waste of natural resources” so they could keep getting federal highway funds. I had heard that some jurisdictions allowed you to prepurchase coupon books and you’d rip out a $5 coupon and hand it to the trooper if you were stopped. That, though, might be urban legend.

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:19:09am

re: #5 🌹UOJB!

Damn but that’s a pretty bad dad fuck up.

My daughter said to me, on the way to école maternelle, so she was about 3-4 years old, “dad, is it true that father Christmas doesn’t exist?”. Impressed by her maturity I confirmed the truth. And was stuck outside the school with my daughter howling in inconsolable grief while all the other parents stared at me in disgust.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:22:51am

re: #10 dat_said

The folks who run ghostsofnorthdakota.com and ghostsofminnesota.com do a great job with their photos. I can get lost on those for hours.

Yeah, some places you can see for miles. So can the troopers. Plus, they sometimes use planes as part of the speed limit enforcement. Montana used to have no defined daytime speed limit beyond “reasonable and prudent”. Back in the 70s when federal law (loss of highway funds) set nationwide speed limit to 55mph, Montana would issue $5 fines for “unnecessary waste of natural resources” so they could keep getting federal highway funds. I had heard that some jurisdictions allowed you to prepurchase coupon books and you’d rip out a $5 coupon and hand it to the trooper if you were stopped. That, though, might be urban legend.

I had a friend who moved to Montana. He said the only thing that kept him from going at super high speeds were dangerous cross winds.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:24:19am

re: #8 John Hughes

Yes, he’s an asshole. Frankly the 224 who refused to admit that Biden won are worse.

You’re right. It’s Trump being Trump. The GOP is being spineless cowards who treasure their power and position beyond anything else and essentially are quaking in fear of the Trump base and far right media yahoos who will egg said base on.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:24:44am

re: #5 🌹UOJB!

I ate canned spinach once because of Popeye.

Fuck that guy.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:24:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:25:53am

re: #5 🌹UOJB!

re: #9 William Lewis

Reminds me of a joke Phyllis Diller used to tell.

“My husband is incredibly cheap. Every year, on Christmas Eve, he’d get on the roof with a shotgun, fire it off into the air, then come down and tell the kids there’d be no presents under the tree because Santa just killed himself.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:30:17am

re: #13 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

You’re right. It’s Trump being Trump. The GOP is being spineless cowards who treasure their power and position beyond anything else and essentially are quaking in fear of the Trump base and far right media yahoos who will egg said base on.

Most aren’t spineless cowards — they are as malign as he and are delighted to finally have a leader who can give them the permanent power they crave.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:33:39am

re: #2 makeitstop

Don’t go in the shed, you can have something yummy later on.

Even for TR, this is kinda weird.

Can’t you just feel that Christmas spirit?

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:34:24am

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

Most aren’t spineless cowards — they are as malign as he and are delighted to finally have a leader who can give them the permanent power they crave.

¿Por qué no los dos?

They are malign spineless cowards, only able to reveal their full vileness because Trump has shown the way. They used to have to pretend, now they know they don’t need to.

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ericblair  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:35:26am

There is going to be a shit river of petty and large-scale corruption evidence pouring out in the next years as all this gets exposed by either prosecutors following the money or angry people with scores to settle. In Russia, the cover you get from the powerful to commit and hide your own crimes is called “krisha”, the roof. You lose that, you’re fucked. Same with Republicans now.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:38:51am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

The original!

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A friend in The Netherlands says that Todd did a good job, that it was a very accurate translation.

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jamesfirecat  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:39:18am

re: #318 Hecuba’s daughter

And this morning Trump called Kemp to ask him to overturn the results. Trump may have no interest in doing his Constitutionally required job, but he does work overtime to protect and enrich himself. Kemp has been silent over the past few days while other Republican members of his administration have stood up for justice. Kemp is a man with no morals or ethics — let’s see if this one time in his life, he will stand for the rule of law when facing pressure.

I think the Republicans’ own craven nature actually works in our favor in this case.

Because Biden won 306 electoral votes, no state in contention flipping on its own will be enough to give Donald Trump the presidency. Thus no Republican wants to be the first to possibly light their political future on fire/be the first to get an appointment with madame guillotine when they have no proof it will make a difference who in the White House come February.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:39:54am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Can’t you just feel that Christmas spirit?

I gotta admit, it is kinda festive. Maybe not if you’re a rabbit, though.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:40:32am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:41:33am

re: #20 ericblair

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There is going to be a shit river of petty and large-scale corruption evidence pouring out in the next years as all this gets exposed by either prosecutors following the money or angry people with scores to settle. In Russia, the cover you get from the powerful to commit and hide your own crimes is called “krisha”, the roof. You lose that, you’re fucked. Same with Republicans now.

Bloodhound gang- The roof is on fire (HQ sound)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:42:04am

re: #20 ericblair

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There is going to be a shit river of petty and large-scale corruption evidence pouring out in the next years as all this gets exposed by either prosecutors following the money or angry people with scores to settle. In Russia, the cover you get from the powerful to commit and hide your own crimes is called “krisha”, the roof. You lose that, you’re fucked. Same with Republicans now.

This is so embarrassing. There have been various articles and tweets that referred to “Miller” and I always translated that to Stephen Miller! It was only reading Delgado’s tweets that it suddenly dawned on me that most of those citations were of her baby daddy!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:43:43am

re: #20 ericblair

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There is going to be a shit river of petty and large-scale corruption evidence pouring out in the next years as all this gets exposed by either prosecutors following the money or angry people with scores to settle. In Russia, the cover you get from the powerful to commit and hide your own crimes is called “krisha”, the roof. You lose that, you’re fucked. Same with Republicans now.

I hope they all lose.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:45:53am

re: #22 jamesfirecat

I think the Republicans’ own craven nature actually works in our favor in this case.

Because Biden won 306 electoral votes, no state in contention flipping on its own will be enough to give Donald Trump the presidency. Thus no Republican wants to be the first to possibly light their political future on fire/be the first to get an appointment with madame guillotine when they have no proof it will make a difference who in the White House come February.

Two contrary arguments —
Not if they think this will get the ball rolling and allow the coup to proceed. Or if they think this won’t make any difference so it will only help them with the base. Then if it succeeds with one, other states may decide to join in.

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jamesfirecat  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:48:44am

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

Two contrary arguments —
Not if they think this will get the ball rolling and allow the coup to proceed. Or if they think this won’t make any difference so it will only help them with the base. Then if it succeeds with one, other states may decide to join in.

Then my argument would be thank goodness for Tom Wolf (Democratic Goveneror of PA) because without him engaging in this craziness it takes three states flipping their results, so once again we’re back to the argument of two people have to go “first” for this crazy coup to work.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:51:51am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:54:53am

re: #30 jaunte

Who can press charges?

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:56:02am

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

I don’t know, but we have 80 million ideas.

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calochortus  Dec 5, 2020 • 11:57:54am

My brother had an interesting idea. If Trump can pardon himself, then presumably Biden could shoot the conservative Supreme Court Justices, pardon himself, and then appoint replacements. (Confirmations could be difficult, of course.)

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ericblair  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:00:12pm

Take it for what it’s worth, but the goopers don’t seem quite as certain that Republicans are going to win in GA as the Democrats seem to be.

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:03:21pm

re: #30 jaunte

The only thing to stop this behavior is to stop electing Republicans into office. This is why I also think we can only hope to maintain our Flawed Democracy status. Evolving from our present Hybrid Regime to a Full Democracy is not in the cards to at least 20 years. Entirely gone are the George Will types who were always a tiny tiny minority in the Republican Party to begin with.

47% of the country is just fine with authoritarian rule as long as it secures white supremacy and/or “owning Libs.” This is especially true for the craven Republicans in Congress who for decades pretended to care about the country, service members, and national security and all the while only serve themselves personally and cynically use their constituent’s own prejudices against everyone. Fuck them all. They are traitors.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:05:30pm

re: #11 John Hughes

I’m in a windowless, beige conference room meeting around Christmas 2009, and this lady comes in with skank glitter clothes and she has smeared mascara because she has been crying

We are concerned and ask
My kid just learned there is no Santa!

Awww. How old is the kid?
15

15!?! Let’s get back to the meeting

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:05:38pm
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jamesfirecat  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:06:23pm

re: #33 calochortus

My brother had an interesting idea. If Trump can pardon himself, then presumably Biden could shoot the conservative Supreme Court Justices, pardon himself, and then appoint replacements. (Confirmations could be difficult, of course.)

Or you know he Kamala Harris could do it and then Biden could pardon her, that’s much more “constitutionally sound”.

As for making confirmations easier, right now Kentucky has two GOP Senators but a Democratic Governor and the rules say that if those senators die the Governor gets to pick their replacements….

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:06:48pm

Who creates exactly the same signature every time? This is just another means of tossing out votes.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:06:58pm

From FB

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:09:46pm

Before The Star Wars Holiday Special there was this…

LIZA MINNELLI in rare perk singing “Ding-a-ling, I Feel SO ChRiStMaS-eY!”

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sagehen  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:10:08pm

re: #34 ericblair

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Take it for what it’s worth, but the goopers don’t seem quite as certain that Republicans are going to win in GA as the Democrats seem to be.

if the last 5 years have taught us anything, it’s that “internal polling” might as well be reading chicken entrails.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:10:25pm
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jamesfirecat  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:10:29pm

re: #39 jaunte

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Who creates exactly the same signature every time? This is just another means of tossing out votes.

I’m pretty sure it’s just BS from top to bottom, a signature match is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE at this point, because they threw out/destroyed the envelopes with the signatures on them after doing the initial match to protect the secret ballot.

eastcobbnews.com

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:11:52pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

Exactly. And no one signs their name exactly the same way every time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:17:13pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:21:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:21:15pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

I’m pretty sure it’s just BS from top to bottom, a signature match is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE at this point, because they threw out/destroyed the envelopes with the signatures on them after doing the initial match to protect the secret ballot.

eastcobbnews.com

Actually that article says the envelopes with signatures were preserved.

The privacy envelopes were among the items that were also shredded—after the election was certified—but not the mailing envelopes with the signatures.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:26:20pm
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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:26:41pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Does anyone doubt that if Trump thought he could rely on the military to stage a REAL fucking coup instead of this never-ending grift, he’d do it in a heartbeat?

He would have done it on Election Night, as soon as it started to look like he was losing.

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jamesfirecat  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:26:52pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Actually that article says the envelopes with signatures were preserved.

Ah sorry my bad, though of course there’s no way to get the milk back in to the cow because if you find a signature that doesn’t match, how do you tell which ballot to throw out?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:29:06pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:30:41pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

Ah sorry my bad, though of course there’s no way to get the milk back in to the cow because if you find a signature that doesn’t match, how do you tell which ballot to throw out?

I think they’re all numbered. But they’re supposed to be hidden (completely secret) so you never know who voted for whom.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:32:13pm

re: #33 calochortus

My brother had an interesting idea. If Trump can pardon himself, then presumably Biden could shoot the conservative Supreme Court Justices, pardon himself, and then appoint replacements. (Confirmations could be difficult, of course.)

You wouldn’t need confirmations if 4 conservative justices perished — and I know which 4 should go first.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:35:15pm

Thread

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:35:44pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

Ah sorry my bad, though of course there’s no way to get the milk back in to the cow because if you find a signature that doesn’t match, how do you tell which ballot to throw out?

You throw out all mail-in ballots in Democratic strongholds — which heavily favor the Democrats. You know that’s what Kemp wants — his whole career has been in suppressing votes and he sounds as though he’s on team Trump.

Hopefully the Democrats are prepared to fight viciously with no hold bars to stop this.

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jamesfirecat  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:38:19pm

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

You throw out all mail-in ballots in Democratic strongholds — which heavily favor the Democrats. You know that’s what Kemp wants — his whole career has been in suppressing votes and he sounds as though he’s on team Trump.

Hopefully the Democrats are prepared to fight viciously with no hold bars to stop this.

If he’s already called for a signature audit three times but hasn’t gotten one yet then something is stopping him from getting one, don’t know enough about Georgia to say what at the moment. That or there already has been one and it didn’t throw out enough votes to matter…

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:40:21pm

re: #40 I Would Prefer Not To

I think I’ve figured out why Trump is so convinced the election was rigged: someone told him Joe Biden came second to last in the presidential race.

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Jack Burton  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:43:58pm

re: #33 calochortus

My brother had an interesting idea. If Trump can pardon himself, then presumably Biden could shoot the conservative Supreme Court Justices, pardon himself, and then appoint replacements. (Confirmations could be difficult, of course.)

This is the reason that self-pardons are obviously not legal. You don’t make a list of instructions and rules for the president to follow and then have the last one be “You can just ignore this and do whatever you want with no consequences if you fill out this form.”

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DesertDenizen  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:44:23pm

re: #10 dat_said

The folks who run ghostsofnorthdakota.com and ghostsofminnesota.com do a great job with their photos. I can get lost on those for hours.

Yeah, some places you can see for miles. So can the troopers. Plus, they sometimes use planes as part of the speed limit enforcement. Montana used to have no defined daytime speed limit beyond “reasonable and prudent”. Back in the 70s when federal law (loss of highway funds) set nationwide speed limit to 55mph, Montana would issue $5 fines for “unnecessary waste of natural resources” so they could keep getting federal highway funds. I had heard that some jurisdictions allowed you to prepurchase coupon books and you’d rip out a $5 coupon and hand it to the trooper if you were stopped. That, though, might be urban legend.

Arizona still treats less than 10mph over the limit as “Waste of Finite Resources” and it doesn’t go against your record since it isn’t a traffic violation.

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calochortus  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:46:10pm

re: #59 Jack Burton

This is the reason that self-pardons are obviously not legal. You don’t make a list of instructions and rules for the president to follow and then have the last one be “You can just ignore this and do whatever you want with no consequences if you fill out this form.”

Well, yes. I wonder if anyone will point this out to the Trumpers?

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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:46:38pm

Teddy contemplating life on a sunny Pacific Northwest Day.

Can’t wait to see first dogs - Champ and Major - in the White House
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:47:21pm

re: #61 calochortus

Even pointing this out DT’s followers will still insist that he is perfect.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:48:52pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:49:26pm

re: #57 jamesfirecat

If he’s already called for a signature audit three times but hasn’t gotten one yet then something is stopping him from getting one, don’t know enough about Georgia to say what at the moment. That or there already has been one and it didn’t throw out enough votes to matter…

Signature audits are impossible due to the way things work in Georgia. The signatures are verified, then detached from the ballots so that the vote itself is kept secret. This is a feature of the system, designed to prevent pay-for-vote schemes where corrupt election officials can verify that the bought voters did, in fact, vote the way they were told to.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:50:08pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:51:45pm

A thread. TL:DR; a huge nothingburger with respect to the Presidential election, but potentially unpleasant litigation for Dominion ahead if these assholes decide to be unscrupulous… in other words, a certainty.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 5, 2020 • 12:55:16pm

OK I’m getting in the holiday sprit.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:00:35pm

JFC

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ericblair  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:03:10pm

re: #69 Teddy’s Person ✌

JFC

That looks like a blackmail angle against the GOP that I hadn’t considered. I would think that it was totally inappropriate for us to spread it as widely as possible.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:05:04pm

re: #62 Teddy’s Person ✌

Teddy contemplating life on a sunny Pacific Northwest Day.

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You get sun? 😁

(Rubbing Teddy’s little head) Hi buddy!

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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:06:33pm

re: #70 ericblair

That looks like a blackmail angle against the GOP that I hadn’t considered. I would think that it was totally inappropriate for us to spread it as widely as possible.

Yes, it would be quite regrettable if Georgia’s Republican voters heeded that advice. My concern would be at Susan Collins levels.

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Jack Burton  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:09:12pm

re: #72 Teddy’s Person ✌

Yes, it would be quite regrettable if Georgia’s Republican voters heeded that advice. My concern would be at Susan Collins levels.

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dangerman  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:09:13pm

re: #59 Jack Burton

This is the reason that self-pardons are obviously not legal. You don’t make a list of instructions and rules for the president to follow and then have the last one be “You can just ignore this and do whatever you want with no consequences if you fill out this form.”

further, by the plain text you cannot “grant” something to yourself

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:11:01pm

re: #4 John Hughes

Boris Johnson: Yay, the UK is the first country to authorize an anti COVID-19 vaccine!

Vladimir Putin: Who needs authorization — Start the vaccinations immediately!

I just heard about the Russian vaccination on NPR. Guess it is still in trial but Putin said put it out anyway. The trial is just expanding to include the whole country it seems, or at least anybody that wants it. Reported that doctors and other hospital staff have no choice but to get it, others can get it if they want it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:12:11pm

re: #68 🌹UOJB!

OK I’m getting in the holiday sprit.

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my Florida sister’s elf contribution:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:13:19pm
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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:14:50pm

Current mood.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:22:20pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:24:01pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:24:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:27:24pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:28:49pm

re: #46 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Wonder if that shark has been fighting with killer whales. Those are some pretty impressive scars on its body.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:33:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:33:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:34:55pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

RIP Mr Lander. 2020 is a b* of a year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:36:07pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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one of my fave L&S scenes:
Squiggy:
Can we borrow your sheets?

Laverne De Fazio:
Oh God, no.

Shirley Feeney:
Why do you wanna borrow our sheets?

Squiggy:
Well, we have a couple of gorgeous chickaroonies coming over tonight for dinner and crackers, and we kind of like to get to first base with them.

Leonard ‘Lenny’ Kosnowski:
We figure some clean sheets will bring ‘em over the old goal line.

Laverne De Fazio:
What’s the matter with your own sheets?

Squiggy:
They’re hard.

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🌹UOJB!  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:36:14pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So sad.

David fought Multiple Sclerosis with all his might for years.

RIP, David. Safe journey across the rainbow bridge…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:38:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:39:23pm
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lizardofid  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:40:15pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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An MS fellow traveler if memory serves. RIP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:40:35pm
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KGxvi  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:44:49pm

re: #74 dangerman

further, by the plain text you cannot “grant” something to yourself

Added point: as I’ve explained during impeachment you can’t indict a sitting president because he would effectively be on both sides of the “v” as the DOJ exercises delegated presidential power under our system. The point of pardons is to avoid or repair miscarriages of justice. Since the president, at least theoretically/technically, has ultimate control of the DOJ he couldn’t be subject to such miscarriages of justice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:49:10pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:50:13pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:50:19pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

Performance art.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:51:42pm

re: #33 calochortus

My brother had an interesting idea. If Trump can pardon himself, then presumably Biden could shoot the conservative Supreme Court Justices, pardon himself, and then appoint replacements. (Confirmations could be difficult, of course.)

Gotta say, I posted the same idea here a while back. Minus the confirmation note.

I don’t suppose your brother and I are the only people to have thought of it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:52:34pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

Ah sorry my bad, though of course there’s no way to get the milk back in to the cow because if you find a signature that doesn’t match, how do you tell which ballot to throw out?

That’s easy, throw out A Biden vote, duh!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:53:34pm

moron

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:54:21pm

re: #35 Florida Panhandler

The only thing to stop this behavior is to stop electing Republicans into office. This is why I also think we can only hope to maintain our Flawed Democracy status. Evolving from our present Hybrid Regime to a Full Democracy is not in the cards to at least 20 years. Entirely gone are the George Will types who were always a tiny tiny minority in the Republican Party to begin with.

47% of the country is just fine with authoritarian rule as long as it secures white supremacy and/or “owning Libs.” This is especially true for the craven Republicans in Congress who for decades pretended to care about the country, service members, and national security and all the while only serve themselves personally and cynically use their constituent’s own prejudices against everyone. Fuck them all. They are traitors.

If George Will is the model of a good repug, we’re in even worse trouble than I thought.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:54:52pm
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sagehen  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:55:53pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NEVERMORE!!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:56:03pm
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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:56:07pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Both of them. Kemp asking for something that can’t be done (since the ballots and signatures have long been separated) to try to appease Needy Amin is pretty weasely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:58:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:59:00pm

I’m seriously wondering if Trump’s rally tonight might turn into a riot.

He’s whipping up his cult into a real frenzy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 1:59:55pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:00:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:01:30pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:02:14pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Three days, like jebuses resurrection?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:03:08pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh the horror of the PornHub group losing money because ED issues….

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:04:36pm

I think Barr will flip and will actually turn out to be the best source on Republican treason, blackmail and bribery.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:04:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:05:36pm
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calochortus  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:05:48pm

re: #97 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Gotta say, I posted the same idea here a while back. Minus the confirmation note.

I don’t suppose your brother and I are the only people to have thought of it.

Hardly. I would assume anyone thinking about deciding on the legality of a self pardon would do so as well.

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:05:58pm

I learned today that my uncle (father’s brother, last of his generation) passed away from Covid at age 97. My cousin said he was fighting it off well, and then suddenly just couldn’t hold on any longer. We spoke every week: he was so looking forward to making 100. Walked every day, keeping as fit as possible. Damn. He was a good man.

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calochortus  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:09:15pm

re: #110 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Three days, like jebuses resurrection?

It can’t ever be right now for some reason.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:11:36pm

re: #116 retired cynic

I am so sorry. Sending love and hugs from far away…❤️

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:12:37pm

I’m dying…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:15:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:17:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:20:01pm
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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:22:51pm

I wonder how much groveling Perdue and Loeffler will have to do before the rally to get Trump to tell his rabid crowd to vote for them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:22:52pm
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thedopefishlives  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:24:52pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

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Oh, fuck a duck.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:26:06pm

re: #124 Dread Pirate Ron

I really wish we were like other countries where the new guy (or gal) takes over almost immediately.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:27:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:29:16pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

I really wish we were like other countries where the new guy (or gal) takes over almost immediately.

I have no problem with the notion of a transition period. Assuming that the side transitioning out accepts that fact.

But it was clear to all that this was going to happen, Trump’s brand depends on it.

What upsets me still is how close he came to pulling it off. Without Covid, he would have won handily.

Only the record turnout is what got enough GOP operatives to see that trying to turn it for Trump was just not a viable option and stop intervening on his behalf.

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lizardofid  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:29:52pm

re: #123 Teddy’s Person ✌

I wonder how much groveling Perdue and Loeffler will have to do before the rally to get Trump to tell his rabid crowd to vote for them.

The Devil went down to Georgia
He was lookin’ for a soul to steal
He was in a bind ‘cause he was way behind
And he was willin’ to make a deal

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calochortus  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:30:19pm

In seasonally appropriate news: I actually went so far as to hang a wreath on the front door and throw some holiday lights on our little camellias out front. We used to have somewhat more robust shrubs to put lights on, but replaced them a couple years ago. I think it will take a couple more years before they don’t look a bit silly lit up-but what the heck.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:30:35pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

I really wish we were like other countries where the new guy (or gal) takes over almost immediately.

This. The current situation demonstrates why a lame-duck with power is a problem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:31:32pm

re: #130 calochortus

In seasonally appropriate news: I actually went so far as to hang a wreath on the front door and throw some holiday lights on our little camellias out front. We used to have somewhat more robust shrubs to put lights on, but replaced them a couple years ago. I think it will take a couple more years before they don’t look a bit silly lit up-but what the heck.

Next weekend is the annual Christmas tree sale in our village, we will be down to fetch us a proper family tree. But I will wait for the Schmuckfest until the other kids arrive on the 19th.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:32:32pm
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jamesfirecat  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:35:51pm

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have no problem with the notion of a transition period. Assuming that the side transitioning out accepts that fact.

But it was clear to all that this was going to happen, Trump’s brand depends on it.

What upsets me still is how close he came to pulling it off. Without Covid, he would have won handily.

Only the record turnout is what got enough GOP operatives to see that trying to turn it for Trump was just not a viable option and stop intervening on his behalf.

I’m actually not so sure about that… take a look at the polls throughout the entire year of 2020

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

If Covid actually was why Biden won we would have seen some major spikes as Trump’s handling of it got worse and worse, instead the major spike in Biden’s favor happened at the tail end of September, though I’d need to go review exactly what was happening then to give better data…

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:38:48pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:41:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:50:06pm
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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:51:10pm
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BeachDem  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:53:23pm

re: #129 lizardofid

The Devil went down to Georgia
He was lookin’ for a soul to steal
He was in a bind ‘cause he was way behind
And he was willin’ to make a deal

And that’s the night that the lights went out in Georgia…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:53:47pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2020 • 2:58:49pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course Biden would say these kind of things. It’s the kind of politician he learned to be, and probably his own personality is such that he wants/needs to think better of people.

But I think the people who need to hear that kind of message don’t care. All those people giving Newsom the middle finger will despise Biden for being so kind.

Trumpers like Trump because of his ugliness, not in spite of it.

Biden wants to be Presidential. But half the country despises “presidential.”

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Renaissance_Man  Dec 5, 2020 • 3:16:11pm

re: #131 Colère Tueur de Lapin

This. The current situation demonstrates why a lame-duck with power is a problem.

Lame ducks with power aren’t generally a problem in democracies. In failed states like the US it becomes much more of an issue.


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