Washington Post Editorial Board Calls for Trump to Be Removed From Office via 25th Amendment

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It took them until two weeks before the end of his presidency, but apparently storming the Capitol building was the Washington Post’s red line: Trump caused the assault on the Capitol. He must be removed.

PRESIDENT TRUMP’S refusal to accept his election defeat and his relentless incitement of his supporters led Wednesday to the unthinkable: an assault on the U.S. Capitol by a violent mob that overwhelmed police and drove Congress from its chambers as it was debating the counting of electoral votes. Responsibility for this act of sedition lies squarely with the president, who has shown that his continued tenure in office poses a grave threat to U.S. democracy. He should be removed.

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:28:58pm

F him and his name for all eternity.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:29:22pm

The consensus is building, and once most think that way, the formerly unlikely becomes probable.

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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:29:29pm

No.

Not acceptable, but here’s why:

25th leaves him eligible to serve again in theory.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:30:34pm

If ever there was a question about Donald J. Trump going down into the history books as the worst President in United States history, today put all those questions to rest. There will never be a worse President - the only way it could get worse is if someone takes the Presidency by actual force, and then they would not be a President, but an actual dictator.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:30:46pm

That’s what I think too. Objections are for the cameras. Hold a closed session.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:31:20pm
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b.d. (We Won!)  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:31:23pm

Looks like they are pulling an unofficial 25th and already using Pence as the go to guy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:31:23pm

re: #24 Nyet

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:31:37pm

re: #3 Chrysicat

No.

Not acceptable, but here’s why:

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25th leaves him eligible to serve again in theory.

Yes. But you won’t find 17 principled R senators needed for a conviction.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:32:01pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:32:31pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:32:35pm

re: #6 jaunte

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The only difference is that this time, somebody actually acted on it. So now they’re in “oh, SHIT” mode.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:32:40pm

re: #7 b.d. (We Won!)

Looks like they are pulling an unofficial 25th and already using Pence as the go to guy.

Well Trump doesn’t want to do the job anyway

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:33:01pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:33:18pm

re: #10 jaunte

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I got tired of the yapping.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:33:27pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:33:42pm

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Yeah, I muted him.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:33:57pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

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they were either acts of patriotism or were insurrectionist acts perpetrated by Antifa

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:34:14pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:34:51pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:35:00pm

...

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:35:34pm

re: #18 Sir John Barron

they were either acts of patriotism or were insurrectionist acts perpetrated by Antifa

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Don’t be sarcastic. Expect the latter to be the official take of the right wing hate machine. Even they don’t want to be on record as supporting this; that would be political suicide. This is the perfect opportunity to try to set up Those People (tm) to take the fall for their own colossal fuckup.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:36:13pm
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Scout  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:36:13pm

There was an official announcement about the security response, and it put pence in the decision-making process. People were asking why it didn’t include trump.

But I wonder how pence has any authority to decide anything? I thought that was the whole thing about the VP office — it does absolutely nothing.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:37:16pm

Germany was having trouble; what a sad, sad story.
We need our new leader to restore its former glory.
Where, oh where was he?
Where could that man be?
We looked around, and then we found the man for you and me!
And now it’s
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay
We’re marching to a faster pace.
Look out! Here comes the master race!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
Winter for Poland and France.
Springtime for Hitler and Germany,
Come on Germans! Go into your dance!
I was born in Dusseldorf and that is why they call me Rolfe.
Don’t be stupid, be a smarty! Come and join the Nazi Party!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany!…

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:37:21pm

There should be hearings on the security failure and heads must roll, whether this was intentional or not.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:37:47pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:38:06pm

re: #26 Nyet

There should be hearings on the security failure and heads must roll, whether this was intentional or not.

Either somebody fucked up, or somebody FUCKED UP. The only difference is intent. The end result is the same: That’s a firin’ offense.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:38:10pm

re: #24 Scout

As President of the Senate, I suppose Pence has the authority needed to do what is required to protect the chambers and the Capitol.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:38:24pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:38:55pm
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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:39:09pm

re: #30 HRH Stanley Sea

He had a Facebook account?

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:40:35pm

McConnell is letting Loeffler talk.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:40:45pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

yessssss

so that *was* a signal earlier.

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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:41:01pm

re: #9 Nyet

Yes. But you won’t find 17 principled R senators needed for a conviction.

I want to downding that based not on its inaccuracy—it’s not—but based on how depressing a thought that is after he set off a coup that had a high-water mark as great as Moscow ‘91.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:41:58pm

And she’s not going to contest the results.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:42:04pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:42:10pm

re: #33 Belafon

McConnell is letting Loeffler talk.

I assume this is still over the objection to Arizona’s electors.

Each additional objection, another two hours.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:42:36pm

re: #36 Belafon

And she’s not going to contest the results.

Thanks, Donald.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:43:26pm

Hmm. I have some reading to do.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:44:00pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:44:44pm

re: #41 DodgerFan1988

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“Tucker Carlson saying right now—”

Oh wait I think I see the problem

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:44:46pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:44:57pm

It’s The Onion, so you know what that means… it’ll happen soon:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:45:10pm

re: #7 b.d. (We Won!)

Looks like they are pulling an unofficial 25th and already using Pence as the go to guy.

But does Trump still have access to the nuclear football?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:45:23pm

Daily Covid deaths broke through 4000 today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:46:16pm

Trump , in utter frustration, is desperately searching for the name on, and password for his Myspace account.

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:46:49pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Trial balloon?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:47:14pm

re: #48 sagehen

Trial balloon?

Time for Donny to read the room

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:47:50pm

re: #40 thedopefishlives

Hmm. I have some reading to do.

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As I read it, it would be a real shit show if the President’s term were more than another two weeks. But I’d rather see him impeached.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:47:56pm

re: #40 thedopefishlives

Hmm. I have some reading to do.

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Yeah. The problem is that Trump can just day “I’m ok” and he can stay.

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:48:53pm

re: #51 Belafon

Yeah. The problem is that Trump can just day “I’m ok” and he can stay.

Keep reading…

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:48:57pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:49:30pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:49:30pm

re: #24 Scout

There was an official announcement about the security response, and it put pence in the decision-making process. People were asking why it didn’t include trump.

But I wonder how pence has any authority to decide anything? I thought that was the whole thing about the VP office — it does absolutely nothing.

VP is President of the Senate.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:50:12pm

re: #51 Belafon

Yeah. The problem is that Trump can just day “I’m ok” and he can stay.

It’s more complicated than that. He can say, “I’m OK”, and if the VP and Cabinet let that stand, he can stay. If they submit another declaration, then it goes to Congress, who have 21 days to debate the issue and approve by 2/3 majority IN BOTH HOUSES. Now, the way I see it, the Cabinet could use this to run out the clock to January 20, but they would have to have the cooperation of the Republicans in the Senate, or else they could just immediately force a floor vote and get Trump back in the Oval Office as soon as the 4-day period expires.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:51:09pm

Bullshit is their brand, their raison d’etre, their soul.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:51:27pm

I mean, just listen to Sasse.

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:51:50pm

Sasse and his sanctimonious smiley preacher buddy bullshit can just sit the fuck down.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:52:46pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:52:55pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:53:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:53:15pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:54:01pm

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:54:22pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:54:32pm

re: #57 jaunte

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Bullshit is their brand, their raison d’etre, their soul.

are they actually agreeing not to raise additional objections?

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b.d. (We Won!)  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:54:52pm

re: #45 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But does Trump still have access to the nuclear football?

I guessing the military took Al Franken’s advice and gave the football guy the wrong codes.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:55:01pm

re: #40 thedopefishlives

It won’t happen but that the cabinet discusses it is good; they should work around Trump in the remaining 2 weeks like they did today.

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2020 Blue Wisconsin  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:55:05pm

re: #64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

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Dances With Traitors.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:55:08pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:55:40pm

re: #66 Sir John Barron

are they actually agreeing not to raise additional objections?

Some do! But certainly not all…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:56:12pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:56:56pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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No one who is a “good person” can be proud of the policies Trump enacted. Sorry, John. Fuck you, try again.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:58:52pm

re: #24 Scout

There was an official announcement about the security response, and it put pence in the decision-making process. People were asking why it didn’t include trump.

But I wonder how pence has any authority to decide anything? I thought that was the whole thing about the VP office — it does absolutely nothing.

“To inquire daily about the President’s health and attend the funerals of minor heads of state.”

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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:59:16pm

re: #59 i(m)p(each)(again!)sos

MUTE

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:59:43pm

re: #73 thedopefishlives

No one who is a “good person” can be proud of the policies Trump enacted. Sorry, John. Fuck you, try again.

“I was honored to serve in the Trump administration and proud of the policies we enacted putting children in cages.”

Fixed it for her.

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Skandal  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:59:44pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:59:55pm

Gabe Sterling retweeted this.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 5:59:56pm

re: #64 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Oh my…did he stuff a sock in his jock?

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:00:55pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:01:49pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:01:55pm

re: #80 lawhawk

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Of course because no true Trump supporter….

Even after Trump and Guliani and Flynn urged them on to kick ass and wreck havoc and stand by and stand up but of course Antifa

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:01:59pm

re: #56 thedopefishlives

It’s more complicated than that. He can say, “I’m OK”, and if the VP and Cabinet let that stand, he can stay. If they submit another declaration, then it goes to Congress, who have 21 days to debate the issue and approve by 2/3 majority IN BOTH HOUSES. Now, the way I see it, the Cabinet could use this to run out the clock to January 20, but they would have to have the cooperation of the Republicans in the Senate, or else they could just immediately force a floor vote and get Trump back in the Oval Office as soon as the 4-day period expires.

That was my interpretation too. Plus at this point, I don’t see a problem in getting 2/3rds majorities in both houses.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:03:38pm

re: #80 lawhawk

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It would be irresponsible not to speculate

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:04:35pm

Meanwhile at TheDonald.

-Rattlefrog 65 points 2 hours ago +71 / -6
Time to take the ultimate red pill and recall what happened the last time a nationalist uprising posed a legitimate threat to the globalist status quo, and now realize that we will all go down in history the same way as they did if we lose.

Every piece of media you consume about contemporary events has been manipulated by globalists to shape your opinion. The same thing has been done to our history books.

-Throwaway9001 10 points 2 hours ago +18 / -8
Nazi Germany? They were invading other countries and Hitler actually took over his country, like what the Uniparty is doing now. All Americans want is to be left in peace from the tyrannical government.

-TeflonD0N 31 points 1 hour ago +32 / -1
”We defeated the wrong enemy” -General George S. Patton

-Julia_J 1 point 1 hour ago +10 / -9
Are you saying the Nazis were good? That we shouldn’t have defeated Hitler and Nazi Germany? I’m Polish-American and this is incredibly insulting.

-BraveAmerican 7 points 1 hour ago +7 / -0
I’m saying history was written by the winners

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:04:46pm

re: #78 Nyet

Gabe Sterling retweeted this.

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Sterling seems like a decent, smart guy who’s been programmed with a right wing brain virus he’ll never overcome.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:05:04pm

re: #83 A hollow voice says, Expel them for sedition!

That was my interpretation too. Plus at this point, I don’t see a problem in getting 2/3rds majorities in both houses.

If they could, or if they could at least convince Congress to run out the clock, then this is a viable plan. I agree with Sergey that I doubt it’ll happen.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:05:35pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:05:56pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:06:29pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:07:09pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:07:25pm

re: #90 Nyet

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That picture breaks me every time. At NO POINT should we EVER have armed officers of the law in our government’s chambers, weapons drawn, ready to repel an enemy.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:07:45pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

Sterling seems like a decent, smart guy who’s been programmed with a right wing brain virus he’ll never overcome.

I think the same about Matt Lewis. They operate from weird premises, but mean well.

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:08:01pm

re: #80 lawhawk

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Here’s a good article debunking all that bad-faith, butt-covering bilge: No, antifa did not invade the Capitol today, despite what Trump supporters say

Soon after that though, a photo spread on Twitter showing Angeli at a Black Lives Matter protest earlier this year. This was proof enough for conservatives that Angeli must be an antifa infiltrator and not a real Trump supporter.

The photo and the caption are accurate, Angeli was indeed at a BLM protest. However, the photo is manipulated to crop out his QAnon sign. Angeli was photographed at a BLM protest…because he was there as a pro-Trump counter-protestor.

So projection as always with these creeps - they’re accusing antifa of what they themselves do.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:08:36pm

-ChuckedBeef 448 points 57 minutes ago +453 / -5 (edited)
Listen to this PIECE OF SHIT Mike Pence trying to play President. FUCK YOU PENCE,

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:09:05pm

re: #87 thedopefishlives

If they could, or if they could at least convince Congress to run out the clock, then this is a viable plan. I agree with Sergey that I doubt it’ll happen.

That makes three of us. But when I got up this morning, I didn’t expect to see a bunch of thugs storming the Capitol, so who knows?

(The Democrats took the Senate yesterday, remember?)

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:09:22pm

re: #94 Interesting Times

Heimbach, Baked Alaska and Fuentes are Antifa!//

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:09:23pm

re: #95 Nyet

YOU ASSHOLES TRIED TO ASSASSINATE HIM TODAY. Make no mistake; I firmly believe that if Pence had been in chambers when they broke in, they would have killed him without hesitation.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:10:28pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:10:42pm

Fucking Ron Paul.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:10:46pm

Paul.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:11:12pm

re: #100 jaunte

Fucking Ron Paul.

Rand. Same thing.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:11:36pm

Wait, he is talking sense?

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:11:40pm

re: #102 Nyet

Would that he never reproduced.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:12:18pm

He’s against the coup. States’ rights.
Hmm. Okaaay.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:12:37pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:12:49pm

Hm. I agree with Rand Paul. Gah.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:13:00pm

re: #105 Nyet

He’s against the coup. States’ rights.
Hmm. Okaaay.

Fucking libertarian gasbags.

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:13:19pm

Whoever had this on their trump admin bingo card, collect your winnings :/

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:13:24pm

Weathervane.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:14:01pm
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thecommodore  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:14:26pm

re: #40 thedopefishlives

Hmm. I have some reading to do.

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It’s even harder to remove a POTUS via the 25th, than impeachment. Especially if you want to remove him forever.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:14:37pm

Their cynicism is bone deep.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:15:03pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:15:31pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:15:49pm

re: #112 thecommodore

It’s even harder to remove a POTUS via the 25th, than impeachment. Especially if you want to remove him forever.

So we’ll hope he’s “isolated” for the remaining 2 weeks and then chokes on a Big Mac during a prison stint.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:15:50pm

re: #83 A hollow voice says, Expel them for sedition!

Then impeachment would be faster.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:15:50pm

re: #109 Interesting Times

Whoever had this on their trump admin bingo card, collect your winnings :/

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America will be Respected again around the World! MAGA!

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:16:27pm

Booooooooooo

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:16:32pm

HAAAAWLEY

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:17:05pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:17:07pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:17:12pm

re: #120 Nyet

HAAAAWLEY

Everybody’s gotta have their 15 min. of fame. I would rather his have been the camera shot of him holding up a fist of solidarity with the soon-to-be rioters.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:17:15pm

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thecommodore  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:17:32pm

Five minutes alone with Josh Hawley. That’s all I need.

Fuck that guy!

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:17:38pm

re: #117 Belafon

Then impeachment would be faster.

But impeachment alone is only a rebuke. Do you think conviction is achievable?

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:18:06pm

re: #120 Nyet

HAAAAWLEY

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:18:28pm

Fuck Josh Hawley, you instigating asshole. (Romney, seated behind him, looks like he want to deck the motherfucker)

Edit to add—he just said “irregardless,” so he’s also an ignorant motherfucking asshole.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:18:51pm
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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:19:42pm

re: #127 Interesting Times

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Goddamn, I hope @ProjectLincoln hounds the shit out of Hawley for his entire term, however long that ends up being (that being, hopefully less than one term, because you know that he’s just gonna fuck it up).

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:19:47pm

re: #128 BeachDem

Fuck Josh Hawley, you instigating asshole. (Romney, seated behind him, looks like he want to deck the motherfucker)

Considering how genuinely upset Romney seems to be at this whole debacle, and how Romney knows just how much Hawley and his bullshittery contributed to today’s events, I’m pretty sure he does. I can almost hear him praying silently for just ONE chance to get a room alone with that little prick…

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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:20:01pm

re: #126 Nyet

But impeachment alone is only a rebuke. Do you think conviction is achievable?

At this point, I think you could literally argue that refusal to convict is treason.

And sitting senators are not immune to prosecution by DoJ.

Just sayin’…

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Jack Burton  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:20:08pm

re: #112 thecommodore

It’s even harder to remove a POTUS via the 25th, than impeachment. Especially if you want to remove him forever.

If they can get him to resign the 25th amendment section 3 comes into play.

I’d be willing to drop the charges on all crimes he’s committed in just 2021if he’d put his John Hancock on that. There’s still a thousand things he can be prosecuted over that will put him away basically forever even if we trade taking crimes of the past few weeks off the table.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:20:36pm

re: #132 Chrysicat

At this point, I think you could literally argue that refusal to convict is treason.

And sitting senators are not immune to prosecution by DoJ.

Just sayin’…

Nah.

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IngisKahn  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:20:53pm

Fucker said irregardless.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:22:44pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:23:11pm

re: #136 jaunte

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You might say he is a… Proud Boy.

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:23:42pm

More of this, please:

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:24:17pm

Is Mitt actually mad enough to DO something, though? As in, refuse to caucus with the Rs in the new Senate? Would Toomey or Murkowski go with him? (Collins? Nah. She’s just concerned.)

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:24:58pm

TheDonald . win is gonna be shut down. Tho there are mirrors.

No - mods are not compromised.

Mods are continuing to fight against… well, who aren’t we fighting against?

What do you want? Us to try to lead a fucking revolution (directly against President Trump’s order) from a forum on the internet, which ends up getting the site shut down in a matter of days and all of us sent to the gulag?

We are between a rock and a hard place.

Free speech, always. Win was built to provide a free speech platform for all communities and all legal speech. Progress has been made on that front.

Now our hosts have jumped on this opportunity to try to shut us down.

Please consider the two routes. Let free speech run wild for a few more hours and soon after cease to exist - or accept that a public facing website isn’t the best place for some discussions?

We have 21 hours.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:26:03pm

re: #128 BeachDem

Fuck Josh Hawley, you instigating asshole. (Romney, seated behind him, looks like he want to deck the motherfucker)

Agree! He turned so red!

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Jack Burton  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:26:49pm

re: #139 i(m)p(each)(again!)sos

Is Mitt actually mad enough to DO something, though? As in, refuse to caucus with the Rs in the new Senate? Would Toomey or Murkowski go with him? (Collins? Nah. She’s just concerned.)

I think while maybe not likely, it’s a non-zero possibility of Mitt Romney leaving the Republican party and going independent.

Despite his problematic stance on many things, treason doesn’t seem to be one of them. He seems like he’s thoroughly done with this bullshit.

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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:26:50pm

re: #139 i(m)p(each)(again!)sos

Is Mitt actually mad enough to DO something, though? As in, refuse to caucus with the Rs in the new Senate? Would Toomey or Murkowski go with him? (Collins? Nah. She’s just concerned.)

Not for everything, certainly.

He’d temporarily go back to caucusing with the GOP as much as Manchin would in order to ensure that a SCOTUS Expansion Act or PR Statehood Act coming from the House was never even introduced to committee in the Senate.

But he might be more useful on other issues than JNoe.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:27:12pm

Romney.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:27:44pm

re: #53 jaunte

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There are plenty of MAGA terrorist gang members who would gladly contact Russian Intel services directly and offer them data and items lifted from Congress and other Government sites. No FSB operations necessary.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:28:44pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:29:02pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

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considering

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:29:22pm

re: #144 Nyet

Romney.

He’s on fire.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:29:52pm

Enablers of the tyrant have no standing to speak against the said tyrant. The theater is how we got here.

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:29:57pm

re: #144 Nyet

Romney.

Seems to have no more fucks to give.

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:30:40pm

I hate to agree with Mitt, but he’s making some good points here about how no audit is ever going to convince the crazies, and leadership is about simply telling them the truth.

I’d love to know if he’s had any conversations with his niece in the last eight hours. Her leadership of the RNC has to be awfully damn tenuous at this point.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:30:53pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

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b.d. (We Won!)  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:31:05pm

Thanks Mittens

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:31:11pm

re: #150 BeachDem

Seems to have no more fucks to give.

And he’s the only one with the moral right.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:31:37pm

Since some of the rest of you know more about such things than I do, what are the chances that Trump will follow Hitler and kill himself?

I really hope he doesn’t since, among other things, it would tend to put too much of the guilt on him personally rather than on the Republican party that has loyally nurtured, abetted and supported him throughout his reign of insanity.
As we have said many times here, Trump is not an aberration. He is the entirely logical outcome of 50 years of Republican malfeasance and corruption. If he offs himself, they will try to put as much of it as possible on him, and go right on with a new standard-bearer. It’s obvious that quite a few younger GOPers are angling for that job right now.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:32:04pm

re: #151 i(m)p(each)(again!)sos

I hate to agree with Mitt, but he’s making some good points here about how no audit is ever going to convince the crazies, and leadership is about simply telling them the truth.

I’d love to know if he’s had any conversations with his niece in the last eight hours. Her leadership of the RNC has to be awfully damn tenuous at this point.

Romney is one of the rare Republicans that has at least some principles. He may not have many, but he has a lot more than anyone else on that side of the aisle. The man seemed genuinely outraged this afternoon, and for that reason alone, for today, I’m a fan.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:32:24pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Since some of the rest of you know more about such things than I do, what are the chances that Trump will follow Hitler and kill himself?

I really hope he doesn’t because since, among other things, it would tend to put too much of the guilt on him personally rather than on the Republican that has loyally nurtured, abetted and supported him throughout his reign of insanity.
As we have said many times here, Trump is not an aberration. He is the entirely logical outcome of 50 years of Republican malfeasance and corruption. If he offs himself, they will try to put as much of it as possible on him, and go right on with a new standard-bearer. It’s obvious that quite a few younger GOPers are angling for that job right now.

I don’t think that Trump has the intestinal fortitude to do the deed; he loves himself too much.

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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:32:28pm

I know y’all don’t like him, but I’m enjoying Righteous Mitt.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:33:00pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I don’t see it tbh.

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Skandal  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:33:11pm
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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:33:13pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I don’t see him doing it. He can never fail, only be failed. And anyway, the Secret Service surely has made certain there are no firearms available to him in the WH, though who knows about pills?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:33:15pm

My expectations have shifted to the point where Romney and McConnell look like decent people. Fuck.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:33:36pm

re: #158 makeitstop

I know y’all don’t like him, but I’m enjoying Righteous Mitt.

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Wait, doesn’t Mitt know it was Antifa?

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:33:48pm

re: #158 makeitstop

I know y’all don’t like him, but I’m enjoying Righteous Mitt.

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And let’s also admit he was right about Putin’s Russia and Obama was wrong.

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:34:22pm

CNN just said that only Democrats were clapping for Romney, not his traitorous treasonweasle Republican colleagues.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:34:26pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

He’s lived through total bankruptcy before; he’ll likely be able to find other people to blame for this too.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:35:35pm

re: #165 BeachDem

CNN just said that only Democrats were clapping for Romney, not his traitorous treasonweasle Republican colleagues.

I’m watching. Total scum.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:35:37pm

re: #162 Punish Domestic Terrorists

My expectations have shifted to the point where Romney and McConnell look like decent people. Fuck.

Romney - maybe.

McConnell will NEVER look like a decent person.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:36:18pm
-BenPoolDiceTuckStyx 1 point moments ago +1 / -0
So, we went from 13-14 senators to…. half a Hawley? Did Cruz cuck out too? There isn’t a MAGA senator nor there will ever be a conscious chance of a MAGA senate majority….

Boyz, you did it.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:36:51pm

re: #168 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

Romney - maybe.

McConnell will NEVER look like a decent person.

At best, McConnell is doing the absolute bare minimum, given the events of today.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:37:43pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

For malignant narcissists suicide is the only way out of the largest narcissistic injury they experience. I think the only narcissistic injury that could happen where Agolf Twitler might consider suicide is imprisonment. Think Jeffrey Epstein.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:37:53pm

re: #168 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

Romney - maybe.

McConnell will NEVER look like a decent person.

By decent standards, they’re both trash.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:37:55pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Since some of the rest of you know more about such things than I do, what are the chances that Trump will follow Hitler and kill himself?

He will never do that. That would require a sense of shame.

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DesertDenizen  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:38:00pm

I was arguing with a stupid mother fucker who tried to equate today’s events with CHAZ. Then it got worse. He acknowledged that he hadn’t seen the news today and didn’t actually know what happened. I went ballistic.

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:38:02pm

Speaking of treasonweasels, the vile Elise Stefanik from New York’s North Country is up now in the House.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:38:08pm

re: #152 lawhawk

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I think the road is open to impeachment and conviction. McTurtle is evil but not stupid. He knows that Trump has long outlasted his usefulness and that the Trumpite embrace of conspiracy culture has begun to work against the interests of the party and its wealthy supporters. He cannot save Trump and, possibly thanks to Trump, he cannot save his own dictatorship of the senate. The best he can do is try to preserve as much wealth and privilege as possible for his supporters by not allowing the entire party to go down with Trump. He may not be able to pull that off, but it is the best chance he has.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:38:10pm

Was that the plan? lol

-MrWWonka 1 point 3 minutes ago +1 / -0
how is that building not a fucking crime scene right now. disgusted. a Sad day for America, or whats left of it

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:38:16pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Since some of the rest of you know more about such things than I do, what are the chances that Trump will follow Hitler and kill himself?

As I’ve said before when someone else asked the same question, absolutely not. Malignant narcissists like him would - if they ever saw death as the only way out - take as many others down with them as they could:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:38:58pm

re: #116 Nyet

So we’ll hope he’s “isolated” for the remaining 2 weeks and then chokes on a Big Mac during a prison stint.

I was right that it would’ve been so much better if Trump had been put into a coma and intubated when he got sick.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:39:07pm

re: #125 thecommodore

Five minutes alone with Josh Hawley. That’s all I need.

Fuck that guy!

30 seconds. More than enough for me.
He’ll quit politics and launch a career in opera once I’d be done with him. /mostly

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:40:19pm

Remember when we won GA?

Seems like a week ago.

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:40:35pm

re: #179 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I was right that it would’ve been so much better if Trump had been put into a coma and intubated when he got sick.

Indeed. Now we all have to worry if the sick and evil freak will, on his way out, start a nuclear war for the lulz.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:40:56pm

re: #165 BeachDem

CNN just said that only Democrats were clapping for Romney, not his traitorous treasonweasle Republican colleagues.

re: #167 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’m watching. Total scum.

I wonder how many of them sat on their hands because they ARE treasonweasels vs. how many of them are genuinely afraid that what happened today at the Capitol could have been much, much worse and that they fear outwardly agreeing with Romney here marks them for reprisal (including death) from those same insurrectionists…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:41:32pm

Today’s Covid numbers.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:42:31pm

jetxlife1 1 point 7 minutes ago +1 / -0
i honestly can’t believe trump requested us to attend for this…

i really thought he had something better then this.. i dunno if they spoiled his plan or if he had nothing but… wowee.. i love the man but this was not the play

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:42:44pm

re: #182 Interesting Times

Indeed. Now we all have to worry if the sick and evil freak will, on his way out, start a nuclear war for the lulz.

I’m not the only one then. He’s utterly unhinged, and I just hope he remembers that Ivanka lives in the world he could destroy.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:42:49pm
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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:43:15pm

The mustache of righteousness is speaking!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:43:26pm
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A Mom Anon  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:43:38pm

re: #181 HRH Stanley Sea

I have done several happy dances over this today, but then the events of today sucked the joy right out of things. I’m trying not to be angry, but today has pissed me off beyond all recognition.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:44:03pm

I couldn’t stop myself.

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:44:17pm

re: #190 A Mom Anon

I have done several happy dances over this today, but then the events of today sucked the joy right out of things. I’m trying not to be angry, but today has pissed me off beyond all recognition.

I said this exactly to mrsdm

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:45:12pm

DeWaltJoggingHammer 10 points 12 minutes ago +10 / -0
Trump won’t be president on the 20th. God I hate to say that. It’s up to us. Trump led the way and pulled back the curtain on the swamp, but there is only so much a man can do. Daddy gave us a lesson on what to do today.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:45:39pm

This is unsustainable. Two more weeks of Fuckface Von Clownstick in the White House? More awful things are going to happen.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:45:50pm

COVID reached 950 Benghazis today.

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DesertDenizen  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:45:51pm

re: #193 Nyet

Daddy? That’s fucking sick.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:46:13pm

re: #193 Nyet

-agent2421 1 point 10 minutes ago +1 / -0
Still the best president of our time … but it’s over and people can yell Doomers all they want — but let’s be realistic.

This was all planned. None of these people are cucking because of the violence - theey expected and knew what would happen today and now using it as an excuse to whatever remains of their base.

We lost …. it was rigged … but it’s over. Time to start planning ahead

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:46:40pm

re: #190 A Mom Anon

I have done several happy dances over this today, but then the events of today sucked the joy right out of things. I’m trying not to be angry, but today has pissed me off beyond all recognition.

You think you had a bummer day?

Today’s my birthday and I had taken it off from work; this morning was going great with the GA results being finalized, then all hell breaks loose in DC this afternoon/evening.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:46:46pm

re: #197 Nyet

Thlayli 4 points 13 minutes ago +5 / -1
It’s over.

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:47:37pm

re: #193 Nyet

DeWaltJoggingHammer 10 points 12 minutes ago +10 / -0
Trump won’t be president on the 20th. God I hate to say that. It’s up to us. Trump led the way and pulled back the curtain on the swamp, but there is only so much a man can do. Daddy gave us a lesson on what to do today.

No repressed homoerotic desires there, nope, none at all…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:47:50pm

I hope someone has taken away the biscuit from Hair Furor…

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Jack Burton  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:48:04pm

re: #184 Dread Pirate Ron

Today’s Covid numbers.

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We might actually be peaking now or within the next week or two unless something unexpected happens. There are no real major get together with family and friends holidays for months now.

Vaccines should be starting to get to normal people within that time. (Assuming that the worst case scenario of one or more of the other strains are not covered by current vaccines EDIT: Isn’t the case).

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:48:05pm

re: #135 IngisKahn

Fucker said irregardless.

Next he’ll say “ATM machine” and “PIN number.”

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:48:26pm

re: #200 Interesting Times

No repressed homoerotic desires there, nope, none at all…

Probably learning from Milo, that’s was his Trump moniker.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:48:43pm

-MAGAlomaniac77 12 points 16 minutes ago +12 / -0
Everyone: “Welp, I was gonna follow the constitution and say that we need to follow the process of the state legislatures… but some stuff happened, so now I’m not gonna follow the constitution out of a sense of petty vengeance.”

Primary every single one of this treasonous fucks!

-LoobintheToobin 1 point 12 minutes ago +1 / -0
Right?!

What a great excuse we scheduled just before session!

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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:49:03pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

I’m genuine worried about a nuke.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:49:20pm
-Lord_Nekro 9 points 17 minutes ago +9 / -0
It’s no longer a republic Mitt, thanks to shitstains like you. It’s a full Corporatist Oligarchy

* Oligarhy

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William Lewis  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:49:44pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Since some of the rest of you know more about such things than I do, what are the chances that Trump will follow Hitler and kill himself?

I really hope he doesn’t since, among other things, it would tend to put too much of the guilt on him personally rather than on the Republican party that has loyally nurtured, abetted and supported him throughout his reign of insanity.
As we have said many times here, Trump is not an aberration. He is the entirely logical outcome of 50 years of Republican malfeasance and corruption. If he offs himself, they will try to put as much of it as possible on him, and go right on with a new standard-bearer. It’s obvious that quite a few younger GOPers are angling for that job right now.

Unlike Hitler, Cadet Bonespurs is a coward. I doubt he’d be able to off himself even if he wanted to.

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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:50:19pm

re: #198 TedStriker

Damn it. Happy Birthday. Sorry. You can join my former best friend whose birthday is on 9/11. :(

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:50:27pm
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Amory Blaine  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:50:56pm

Trump still holds the football. Removal now.

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William Lewis  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:51:34pm

re: #162 Punish Domestic Terrorists

My expectations have shifted to the point where Romney and McConnell look like decent people. Fuck.

No, McConnell is just a cynical POS. Mittens, for whatever reason, actually has a spine today.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:53:05pm

re: #196 DesertDenizen

I’ve been thinking about this today, Daddy Issues. Trump is a monster made by a monster, or monsters.His dad was awful. His kids all have serious Daddy Issues, you can tell by their demeanor when talking about him and their desire to emulate what a piece of shit he is. All his followers are weak, scared, lost losers who need a Strong Man father figure because they cannot function without one or many of them. This tough guy as savior crap is part of what’s at the heart of this. Along with a completely irrational ,unhinged and paranoid hate for anything to the left of Atilla the Hun. It’s a toxic waste dump of evil. And it’s not going away any time soon.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:53:06pm

Graham.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:53:16pm

And now the most useless Senator.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:53:27pm

Lady G is speaking. Another repulsive rodent.

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cat-tikvah  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:53:28pm

re: #157 TedStriker

Perhaps a Caligula ending? Or Julius Caesar?

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:53:32pm

Oh gross, Lindsey—I may puke.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:53:41pm

Here’s a motherfucker that needs to be going to jail:

Members of Congress fleeing a pro-Trump mob left their offices so quickly that at least one staffer left their computer on and logged into their official email, according to a screenshot posted by a conservative reporter. Elijah Schaffer, a reporter for the Glenn Beck publication The Blaze, wrote that he was “inside Nancy Pelosi’s office” with what he called “revolutionaries” who have “stormed the building.”

“To put into perspective how quickly staff evacuated, emails are still on the screen along side a federal alert warning members of the current revolution,” Schaffer wrote.

A text box on the lower-right corner of the staffer’s screen read “Capitol: Internal Security Threat: Police Activity.”

Schaffer has since deleted the tweet.

Ars Technica: Pro-Trump reporter gloats over access to fleeing Hill staffer’s computer

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:04pm

re: #216 Ace Rothstein

Lady G is speaking. Another repulsive rodent.

Yeah, but he’s actually exactly right about not using 1876 as an example of how to do anything right.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:05pm

re: #189 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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what were the instances of fraud, Senator?

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:29pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:49pm

Graham has had a drink or two.

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:51pm

Lindsey looks and sounds drunk.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:54pm

re: #219 TedStriker

Here’s a motherfucker that needs to be going to jail:

Ars Technica: Pro-Trump reporter gloats over access to fleeing Hill staffer’s computer

Didn’t realize my dude from Glenn Beck’s The Blaze was Antifa.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:54:54pm

re: #214 Nyet

Graham.

Now THAT is a weathervane.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:55:08pm

re: #224 jaunte

Graham has had a drink or two.

That’s my thought. He’s high.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:55:25pm

re: #219 TedStriker

Illegal access of federal computers to go along with all the other crimes.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:55:26pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:55:29pm

No principles whatsoever.

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:55:42pm
Several of President Trump’s top aides — including national security adviser Robert O’Brien — are considering resigning in the wake of his response to a pro-Trump mob breaching the US Capitol on Wednesday,” CNN reports.

“O’Brien, deputy national security adviser Matt Pottinger and deputy chief of staff Chris Liddell are all considering resigning… Pottinger’s resignation appears to be imminent, while others could sleep on it.”

“considering”. meh

(apparently as is Elaine chao)

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:55:51pm

re: #229 lawhawk

Illegal access of federal computers to go along with all the other crimes.

!!!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:56:08pm

re: #206 plansbandc

I’m genuine worried about a nuke.

My wife is too. I’m betting the military has instituted safeguards to prevent Trump from launching.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:56:41pm

re: #232 Dangerman

“considering”. meh

(apparently as is Elaine chao)

I am considering marrying Scarlett Johansson.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:56:47pm

So all it takes is an insurrection to get Republicans to accept the election results when a Democrat wins. Hell of a thing.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:56:48pm

Rand agrees.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:56:53pm

Cinnamon Bread!

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:57:02pm

The more I hear from Cori the more I love her.

I’d love to see her rip Hawley to pieces!

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BigPapa  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:57:19pm

I’ve been at work getting a network up all day, anything happen?

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:57:26pm

re: #231 Nyet

No principles whatsoever.

So much so that if Mitt leaves the caucus, and Lindsey thinks there’s power in doing that, I could see him following suit… except I don’t think Schumer’s going to want him caucusing with us in any useful way.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:57:36pm

re: #240 BigPapa

I’ve been at work getting a network up all day, anything happen?

*WHACK!*

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:57:37pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

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NetworkKed  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:57:46pm

So… this afternoon is going to be mocked and laughed at as a lame, half-baked coup attempt - and there’s a lot of truth to that, as it took gross incompetence to allow it to get as close as it did. Trump sent his crowd down the street like some sort of preprogrammed congress-seeking missile, but he didn’t actually follow it up with more than passive obstruction. A more creative, more active president with the right nudges through the executive agencies could have actually won with this gambit.

…but even so, this was a close run thing. People were streaming into the Capitol while the houses were actually debating. I haven’t seen confirmation but there’s a reasonable amount of evidence that someone was shooting into the Senate chamber while senators were still in it. If a half dozen of those thugs had entered carrying automatic weapons, there could have been enough dead senators and even congresspeople to break a Dem majority. And then if enough R’s decide to lean into the opportunity, we have an actual coup on our hands.

As it is, there’s been descriptions of the invaders rampaging through the halls right outside the office doors where reps were sheltering. It’s hard to believe none of them got assaulted. I suspect that part of the answer is that rather fewer rioters managed to enter than we think, that the cap police closed or limited whatever entrances were broken relatively quickly. And that not escalating probably was the right option, at least at that stage.

Fuck, I need to get drunk. I was going to try to go two months this time but I’m not going to make it.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:57:48pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:58:02pm

What’s Lindsey going on about? Never mind, don’t want to know.

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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:58:11pm

re: #234 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I really hope so.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:58:31pm
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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:58:43pm

re: #236 Ace Rothstein

So all it takes is an insurrection to get Republicans to accept the election results when a Democrat wins. Hell of a thing.

State of the Union.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:59:13pm

Despite what he says, Lindsey Graham is still a piece of shit stuck to a rent boy.

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Danack  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:59:22pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:59:26pm

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

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Get bent, you salty bitch. I thank God that you got your too-skinny ass whipped by Warnock.

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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 6:59:42pm

re: #244 NetworkKed

I don’t find it at all funny in any way.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:01pm

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

uh, it’s because YOU LOST and Merrick Garland’s Justice Department is gonna roast you for insider trading, Loeffler!

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thecommodore  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:17pm

Lindsey Graham is hammered.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:27pm

Mrs. Collins…

“Concerned”

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:29pm

Senate is now voting on Cruz’s objection to the Electoral College vote.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:38pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:39pm

re: #255 thecommodore

Lindsey Graham is hammered.

He was clearly shaken and stirred by the events of this afternoon.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:40pm

Cruz: Aye

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:42pm

If they had the votes to invoke the 25th amendment, how long would the process take?

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:00:45pm

re: #240 BigPapa

I’ve been at work getting a network up all day, anything happen?

Nah, just the usual shit show.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:01:32pm

Good to hear Cruz put the final nail in his political coffin.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:02:22pm

re: #263 darthstar

Good to hear Cruz put the final nail in his political coffin.

Nah, it’s Texas, bro. He’ll be running for President again in ‘24.

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DesertDenizen  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:02:32pm

re: #240 BigPapa

I’ve been at work getting a network up all day, anything happen?

That’s pretty much what the asshole telling me CHAZ was equivalent to day told me when I called him on his bullshit.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:02:57pm
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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:03:04pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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And Satan’s Tinkerbelle (thanks Chris Titus) is still perched on Hair Furor’s shoulder.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:03:54pm
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NetworkKed  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:04:19pm

re: #261 Ace Rothstein

If they had the votes to invoke the 25th amendment, how long would the process take?

If the cabinet goes for it, it’s literally instant.

Some of the fightback steps could be problematic, but if enough of the cabinet decides to back the play, Congress can run out the clock on Trump’s presidency before it has to come to a vote.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:04:33pm

re: #190 A Mom Anon

I have done several happy dances over this today, but then the events of today sucked the joy right out of things. I’m trying not to be angry, but today has pissed me off beyond all recognition.

It’s sad a stupid kid got herself killed. OTOH, the course for a just and decent future is far better than it was 24 hours ago.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:04:59pm

re: #264 thedopefishlives

This week is a good time to talk with Beto O’Rourke about putting a stick in his spokes.

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:05:24pm

With 13 days left in President Trump’s term, confidants and Republican officials are considering drastic steps to stop him,” Axios reports.

“These measures include censure, impeachment or invoking the 25th Amendment — a move, long dismissed as a liberal fantasy, in which Vice President Pence would step in if Trump were found to be unable to perform his duties.”

“There’s concern about whether the country can withstand another two weeks with Trump at the helm, and what additional chaos and division could be sowed. There’s also rage inside the GOP at Sens. Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz and others whose plans to object to Biden’s certification gave oxygen to Trump, the protests and the notion that Congress could be used to overturn the will of voters.”

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thecommodore  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:05:58pm

re: #264 thedopefishlives

Nah, it’s Texas, bro. He’ll be running for President again in ‘24.

re: #261 Ace Rothstein

If they had the votes to invoke the 25th amendment, how long would the process take?

Longer than it would take to impeach him. The cabinet could vote to remove him, but Trump could appeal to Congress, where it would take a 2/3 vote in *both* chambers to defeat it. Then I think he could keep appealing.

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IngisKahn  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:06:04pm

What a waste of time this is.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:06:54pm

re: #273 thecommodore

If he’s impeached, convicted and removed, can he serve again?

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BigPapa  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:07:04pm

Oh wow

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:07:12pm

re: #273 thecommodore

Longer than it would take to impeach him. The cabinet could vote to remove him, but Trump could appeal to Congress, where it would take a 2/3 vote in *both* chambers to defeat it. Then I think he could keep appealing.

That last part, I believe, is incorrect. If a miracle occurred and he were declared unfit by a 2/3 majority in both chambers, that’s permanent until and unless Congress, the VP, and Cabinet reverse it.

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Dangerman  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:07:17pm

re: #275 Ace Rothstein

If he’s impeached, convicted, and removed, can he serve again?

nope

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thecommodore  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:07:22pm

re: #268 Ace-o-aces

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He’s 100% right.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:07:31pm

re: #217 cat-tikvah

Perhaps a Caligula ending? Or Julius Caesar?

This is the point in a toga-opera where the imperator calls for his praetorians. Then it goes badly.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:08:16pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:08:44pm

re: #281 (((Archangel1)))

One of her viewers.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:08:47pm

re: #213 A Mom Anon

Escape From Freedom

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:09:10pm

re: #275 Ace Rothstein

If he’s impeached, convicted and removed, can he serve again?

Nope.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:09:11pm

All of them encouraging more violence to overthrow the majority vote.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:09:16pm

Ugh, fuck. Smoke on the steps of the US Capitol, another picture that punches me in the gut every time I see it. I don’t deal well with images of my country under attack; 9/11 was horrific, and this is hitting me in a lot of the same places.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:10:00pm

Nos: 3 or 4
Ayes: 96 or 97
Fuck Ted Cruz

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:10:24pm

Not only can he no longer serve if he’s convicted, he loses all of the stuff he would get for being president, such as a salary and security.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:10:43pm

re: #287 darthstar

Nos: 3 or 4
Ayes: 96 or 97
Fuck Ted Cruz

Clearly they didn’t fully rein in the shitheads in the time period following their evacuation.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:10:57pm

re: #181 HRH Stanley Sea

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:11:05pm
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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:12:24pm

re: #287 darthstar

Nos: 3 or 4
Ayes: 96 or 97
Fuck Ted Cruz

93-6…so much for the solid 16

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NetworkKed  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:13:47pm

re: #273 thecommodore

Longer than it would take to impeach him. The cabinet could vote to remove him, but Trump could appeal to Congress, where it would take a 2/3 vote in *both* chambers to defeat it. Then I think he could keep appealing.

No.

There are multiple steps involved.

1. Veep and majority of (cabinet) notify that Prez is incapacitated. He is immediately removed from power.

2. President can (immediately if desired) notify that he is NOT incapacitated. The Veep and majority of (cabinet) have four days to disagree (or agree), and on disagreement the clock starts on:

3. Congress has 21 days to vote on whether they think the prez is incapacitated. They need 2/3rds to override the president’s cert, but we’re 14 days from the end of the term.

So Pence + cabinet could effectively sack Trump at this point. It would be messy as fuck, but they can make it stick.

Really the proper way is impeachment, but 25th would work with enough of the correct people behind it.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:15:32pm

brianirons1 5 points 2 hours ago +10 / -5
I think concentration camps for 6 million people is a little more than an “error”.


-becky21k1 6 points 2 hours ago +9 / -3
600,000, if that

-brianirons1 1 point 2 hours ago +2 / -1
Would more than half a million people not be an error?

Why do you disagree with more or less every historian who has studied it, from all across the world? Please don’t give a “they’re run by the Jews” answer, even if some are, that would only be a minority

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:16:01pm

One of McConnell’s final acts as majority leader is to illustrate how flexible Senate rules are.

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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:17:16pm

Four years too fucking late. Trump had been violating the TOS for more than 4 years. He had been inciting to violence for more than 4 years.

It is only one of Trump’s insurrectionists died in the halls of Congress as other insurrectionists stormed the Capitol in a display of lawlessness not seen in decades today that Twitter acted in the mildest fashion to give Trump a timeout.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:17:29pm

re: #293 NetworkKed

No.

There are multiple steps involved.

1. Veep and majority of (cabinet) notify that Prez is incapacitated. He is immediately removed from power.

2. President can (immediately if desired) notify that he is NOT incapacitated. The Veep and majority of (cabinet) have four days to disagree (or agree), and on disagreement the clock starts on:

3. Congress has 21 days to vote on whether they think the prez is incapacitated. They need 2/3rds to override the president’s cert, but we’re 14 days from the end of the term.

So Pence + cabinet could effectively sack Trump at this point. It would be messy as fuck, but they can make it stick.

Really the proper way is impeachment, but 25th would work with enough of the correct people behind it.

Pence’s political career is over, and if a majority of Cabinet members don’t have political aspirations, they could remove Trump, without any Republican Senator having to take a career ending vote.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:18:03pm

re: #295 darthstar

One of McConnell’s final acts as majority leader is to illustrate how flexible Senate rules are.

What happened?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:18:47pm

There are a lot more objections in the house. Matt Gaetz is up now.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:18:53pm

re: #296 lawhawk

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Four years too fucking late. Trump had been violating the TOS for more than 4 years. He had been inciting to violence for more than 4 years.

It is only one of Trump’s insurrectionists died in the halls of Congress as other insurrectionists stormed the Capitol in a display of lawlessness not seen in decades today that Twitter acted in the mildest fashion to give Trump a timeout.

@jerk, I mean @jack should have banned Shithead from Twitter the minute he started the Birther shit.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:19:07pm

re: #299 Dread Pirate Ron

There are a lot more objections in the house. Matt Gaetz is up now.

Somebody needs to step on his nuts again.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:19:21pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:19:36pm

Racist Republicans applaud his attack on BLM.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:19:49pm

I hope the fence post the Senate just fucked Ted Cruz with was wrapped in barbed wire.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:20:02pm
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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:20:15pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:20:20pm

re: #299 Dread Pirate Ron

There are a lot more objections in the house. Matt Gaetz is up now.

fortunately they still only get two hours

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William Lewis  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:20:23pm

re: #283 Romantic Heretic

Escape From Freedom

Mmmm, I got more value from Eric Hoffer & Albert Camus :)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:21:06pm

Fuck these guys!

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:21:24pm

re: #302 teleskiguy

I could give a rat’s ass about her opinion. She’s trying to elevate her personal political capital. Nothing more. Castigate her like that asshole with the Viking helmet and faux fir and tribal tattoos.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:21:39pm
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stpaulbear  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:21:50pm

re: #244 NetworkKed

Fuck, I need to get drunk. I was going to try to go two months this time but I’m not going to make it.

You can always have a drink tomorrow if you feel like you do now. Try to not have one tonight. It won’t undo anything that’s happened today.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:21:52pm

re: #309 Dread Pirate Ron

Fuck these guys!

Sideways, with a rake.

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DesertDenizen  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:22:37pm

re: #311 The Pie Overlord!

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I hope they’re recording this so we know who to expel and charge with sedition.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:23:13pm

re: #314 DesertDenizen

I hope they’re recording this so we know who to expel and charge with sedition.

Don’t worry, they are.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:23:15pm

re: #244 NetworkKed
Think about it for another eight hours. Trust me, having a buzz doesn’t numb the pain right now. It just makes you type shittier.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:23:53pm

re: #315 The Pie Overlord!

Don’t worry, they are.

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Matt Gaetz needs to spend a couple weeks on a ventilator.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:23:53pm

re: #305 Ace-o-aces

They’re really going to have to work on their form if they want to take on Mexico in the Summer Games.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:24:04pm

Just waiting for the next Garrison Cartoon and McNaughton painting showing Trump as a crucified christ…

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:24:41pm

re: #317 darthstar

Matt Gaetz needs to spend a couple weeks on a ventilator.

Just wait a week or two…he did go to that Mar A Lardo party…

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:26:34pm

In normal times, the certification of the electors’ votes would barely garner a mention in tomorrow’s papers. Now look where we are.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:27:00pm

re: #315 The Pie Overlord!

Holy shit. Matt Gaetz just said, “some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters, they were masquerading as Trump supporters and in fact were members of the violent terrorist group antifa.”

Lame. Sad.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:27:11pm

re: #320 🌹UOJB!

Just wait a week or two…he did go to that Mar A Lardo party…

I don’t wish ill upon people, but if he were to succumb to Covid I would stop calling for his disbarment…win-win.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:27:24pm
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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:27:48pm

re: #313 darthstar

Sideways, with a rake.

Rusty pitchfork.

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NetworkKed  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:27:49pm

re: #316 darthstar

Think about it for another eight hours. Trust me, having a buzz doesn’t numb the pain right now. It just makes you type shittier.

Nothing in the house anyway, have to work in the morning. I’m really not trying to go teetotaller, but I’d been reducing over the last year due to assorted health and it’s easy not to buy anything when the grocery pickup service won’t let you buy alcohol.

…unfortunately, I’ve been substituting with coffee this evening. Starting to twitch.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:28:43pm

The House appears to be voting

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:29:26pm

re: #327 Sir John Barron

The House appears to be voting

Which will apparently take a little over an hour because of COVID protocols as members rotate on and off the floor.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:31:03pm

Little Marco smarming his way along the tightrope.

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:31:07pm

F Marco Rubio

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:31:16pm

re: #324 DodgerFan1988

“Team Tangerine”

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:31:44pm

re: #324 DodgerFan1988

That shit was just velcro’d on? I want to see him replace it with Chuck-E-Cheese and a pair of mouse ears…

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:33:07pm

re: #324 DodgerFan1988

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:33:32pm

re: #324 DodgerFan1988

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:33:56pm

re: #324 DodgerFan1988

I doubt it’s a real one.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:34:07pm

re: #331 Belafon

“Team Tangerine”

Not to be confused with Tangerine Dream…

Tangerine Dream - Live at Conventry Cathedral 1975 (1/2)

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:35:09pm

re: #336 darthstar

The soundtrack they did for “Thief” was fucking killer.

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Belafon  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:35:15pm

re: #334 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I think the video is a joke.

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Jack Burton  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:36:26pm

Pretty sure that video is… satire.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:36:46pm

For the life of me, how were these terrorists that got onto the floors and into congressional offices not gang-tackled and arrested en masse?

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:36:54pm

re: #336 darthstar

Not to be confused with Tangerine Dream…

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This explains why I loved tripping balls during Drums>Space at Dead shows.

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Jack Burton  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:37:20pm

re: #340 Ace Rothstein

For the life of me, how were these terrorists that got onto the floors and into congressional offices not gang-tackled and arrested en masse?

Lack of melanin.

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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:37:22pm

re: #336 darthstar

I love them so much. Friend was into them and taught me about them. Then I went full fan dude after Risky Business.

Part of the reason I loved “Halt and Catch Fire” also.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:37:24pm

re: #337 Ace Rothstein

The soundtrack they did for “Thief” was fucking killer.

One of my all time favorites…I still listen to it regularly.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:37:32pm

re: #340 Ace Rothstein

For the life of me, how were these terrorists that got onto the floors and into congressional offices not gang-tackled and arrested en masse?

It’s white a mystery.

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danarchy  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:37:54pm

re: #335 Nyet

I doubt it’s a real one.

Yeah, that has to be a poe

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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:38:17pm

re: #340 Ace Rothstein

The answer is two-fold. White and the police were in on it.

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darthstar  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:39:10pm

re: #343 plansbandc

I love them so much. Friend was into them and taught me about them. Then I went full fan dude after Risky Business.

Part of the reason I loved “Halt and Catch Fire” also.

I forgot they did Risky Business. I was such a fan that, as a high school kid at the theatre, I said, “Holy shit, the band doing the soundtrack is Tangerine Dream!” to which my friends said, “What?” - I made them sit through the credits so I could prove it.

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Jack Burton  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:41:30pm

re: #346 danarchy

Yeah, that has to be a poe

Someone trying to do a Brent Terhune type thing.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:41:35pm

re: #344 darthstar

One of my all time favorites…I still listen to it regularly.

And a great fucking film directed by Michael Mann. “Heat” (another Mann film) is clearly an extension of “Thief” with much more polish.

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Nyet  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:42:47pm

-bubbletea -34 points 1 hour ago +42 / -76 (edited)
Ivanka **** was condemning violent protest earlier on twatter 🖕

-MartinLuther2 60 points 1 hour ago +78 / -18
Trump is just the current figurehead of the American populist movement. Yea most the people on TD uncritically followed Trump for the moment because of the position he held in it but ultimately he is just a manifestation of a pre-existing movement. All the retards who call him Hitler and all that need to realize that he isn’t Hitler he is Hindenburg. Trump was the compromise of a centrist populist politician who did a little course correction but ultimately failed to stop things from getting worse. The institutional opposition was just too high for him to be effective on the issues he was good on. Between the “deep state” and republican establishment and the democrats it was just too much to overcome. The republican establishment in particular has effectively committed suicide with this betrayal and over the next several years i think an enormous amount of them will be primaried and removed. This isnt normal level cuckservativism this is an outright betrayal and attempt to tell the voters to get back in line and accept the neocon leadership again.

The person who eventually follows Trump up is almost certainly going to be all the things they accuse Trump of that he isn’t. So when we get a president who is some mixture of E Michael Jones, Jarod Taylor and Pinochet 4 years or 8 years from now they will have no one to blame but themselves.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:42:48pm
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plansbandc  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:43:57pm

re: #352 HRH Stanley Sea

Now this makes me want to cry.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:43:59pm

It’s critical that Trump be indicted. If he is ambulatory and not in prison, Trump will be the GOP nominee for President in 2024. If the GOP gains control of Congress in the midterms, with Trump supporting candidates, they will elect him President regardless of how the people vote, resulting in a civil war. Trump must be in prison or in exile by then.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:44:06pm
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lawhawk  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:44:22pm

re: #352 HRH Stanley Sea

Every last person who illegally entered the Capitol should face minimum 10 years prison (you know, like what Trump said for damaging federal property).

Trespass, vandalism, accessory, conspiracy, insurrection, and every other applicable crime under 18 USC we can find.

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thecommodore  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:44:42pm

The violence in DC today was caused by ANTIFA!!!

SEE THE TRUTH!

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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:44:50pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:45:14pm

I fear that Trump is right now preparing a blanket pardon for all the thugs that trashed the capitol today…

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:45:16pm

They’re showing footage of the terrorists breaking Associated Press video equipment outside the Capitol today. Identify, indict, and incarcerate every one of those fuckers.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:45:45pm

re: #359 🌹UOJB!

I fear that Trump is right now preparing a blanket pardon for all the thugs that trashed the capitol today…

There is a 100% chance that it’s going to happen.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:45:57pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:46:49pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:48:25pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:48:28pm

re: #359 🌹UOJB!

I fear that Trump is right now preparing a blanket pardon for all the thugs that trashed the capitol today…

But Antifa—oh never mind

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:48:44pm

re: #361 Ace Rothstein

There is a 100% chance that is going to happen.

if that happens I hope that the concept of blanket pardons is tested in the courts. As far as I understand, it is not legal. Also, don’t you have to name the person being pardoned? Seems like a list that we could go after and sue for civil damages. Plus trump and his minions are too fucking unorganized to do it proper.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:51:04pm

re: #366 I Would Prefer Not To

Didn’t President Carter issue a blanket pardon for Vietnam War defectors?

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:51:22pm

re: #367 Ace Rothstein

Didn’t President Carter issue a blanket pardon for Vietnam War defectors?

Yup.

Proclamation 4483, also known as the Granting Pardon for Violations of the Selective Service Act, was a presidential proclamation issued by Jimmy Carter in 1977. It granted pardons to those who violated the Military Selective Service Act during the Vietnam War era, from August 4, 1964 to March 28, 1973.[1] It was implemented through Executive Order 11967.[2]

en.wikipedia.org

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:52:42pm

re: #368 TedStriker

It was Carter. Jan. 21, 1977.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:53:14pm

re: #369 Ace Rothstein

It was Carter. Jan. 21, 1977.

I corrected it…could have swore it was Ford.

Damn, and it was done on Carter’s first full day in office, too.

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thecommodore  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:54:04pm

re: #364 jaunte

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Didn’t he invite Chuck Johnson to a SOTU?

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:55:16pm
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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:55:55pm

re: #371 thecommodore

Didn’t he invite Chuck Johnson to a SOTU?

Yup, 2018’s:

politico.com

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 7:57:20pm

re: #364 jaunte

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I feel The Ghost of a Flea is the only person who could possibly do justice in words to the degree of cognitive dissonance required to believe that along with this:

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:01:02pm

re: #374 Interesting Times

They are sick, sick people.

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Jay C  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:01:52pm

re: #374 Interesting Times

I feel The Ghost of a Flea is the only person who could possibly do justice in words to the degree of cognitive dissonance required to believe that along with this:

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The most shocking figure on that chart AFAIC is the one on the bottom: if I’m reading that correctly, 56% Of ALL voters believe there was significant fraud in last November’s election?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:03:16pm

re: #353 plansbandc

Now this makes me want to cry.

It just fucking pisses me off even more than I already am.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:03:29pm

re: #370 TedStriker

I corrected it…could have swore it was Ford.

Damn, and it was done on Carter’s first full day in office, too.

Also, fuck Goldwater’s ghost too:

Barry Goldwater, a supporter of the Vietnam War, referred to the proclamation as “the most disgraceful thing that a president has ever done”. Carter was accused of showing favoritism towards middle-class evaders who were able to successfully stay out of the war.[2] Some veterans of the war were opposed to amnesty for evaders, while anti-war activists said it fell short by not pardoning deserters.[6]

Goldwater may have been a WWII vet that ferried planes and supplies all over India and SE Asia (including over The Hump, which would be hazardous under normal circumstances back in the day, then add enemy fighters hunting for you). However, Carter was also a vet, an Annapolis graduate who served in the Navy as a submarine officer and was starting his training as an engineer on early US nuclear sub powerplants before he had to resign his commission to take over the family farm, so Goldwater held no “moral high ground” to me.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:04:09pm
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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:04:31pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:04:38pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:06:59pm

re: #379 jaunte

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:09:02pm

re: #381 jaunte

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I wonder if it was the boot on neck kind of complications, or the overweight diabetic that got caught up in a fascist mob and overexerted themselves kind of complications.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:09:28pm
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makeitstop  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:09:51pm

This guy is insane.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:10:51pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:12:31pm

re: #367 Ace Rothstein

Didn’t President Carter issue a blanket pardon for Vietnam War defectors?

Yes he did. But that was for one specific crime not a host of crimes. Not sure if this is the same or if Carter’s pardon was tested in court. The difference here is that there are many that want to see justice done. No one wanted to refight the Vietnam War.

Also FT

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:12:46pm

re: #380 makeitstop

A great chapter for your book, Mags. Fuck off.

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:13:23pm

re: #376 Jay C

The most shocking figure on that chart AFAIC is the one on the bottom: if I’m reading that correctly, 56% Of ALL voters believe there was significant fraud in last November’s election?

That’s confusing wording which should be cleared up if you read the whole thread - what it actually means is that, of the people who believe the wackadoo disinfo, 56% supported the mob. I don’t think that poll actually shows how many voters total are Qcumber election truthers.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:13:38pm

re: #387 I Would Prefer Not To

Yes he did. But that was for one specific crime not a host of crimes. Not sure if this is the same or if Carter’s pardon was tested in court. The difference here is that there are many that want to see justice done. No one wanted to refight the Vietnam War.

Also FT

And Carter specifically excluded deserters; he only pardoned those who fled to avoid being drafted, not those who were already under oath.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:15:17pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:16:22pm

The Right Wing now have their martyr and are calling for blood.

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:17:44pm

re: #392 DodgerFan1988

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The Right Wing now have their martyr and are calling for blood.

Ashli-Babbit-Lied just doesn’t have that same ring as the original…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:19:40pm

re: #393 TedStriker

Ashli Babbit Lied just doesn’t have that same ring as the original…

The local news did a segment on her. Like she was a fucking hero. It disgusted me.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:21:45pm

So counting the electoral votes will take until next week?

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TedStriker  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:22:09pm

re: #394 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The local news did a segment on her. Like she was a fucking hero. It disgusted me.

I feel bad for those who loved her, but, as they say, “do stupid things, win stupid prizes”…and she paid for it with her life.

In any case, fuck her…she chose to “mount the barricades” and became one of the year’s first Darwin Award winners.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:22:33pm

re: #393 TedStriker

Ashli Babbit Lied Insurrectionist just doesn’t have that same ring as the original…

FIFY. 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:22:50pm

theguardian.com

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:23:35pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:23:58pm

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b.d. (We Won!)  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:25:19pm

re: #392 DodgerFan1988

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The Right Wing now have their martyr and are calling for blood.

So Ashli Babbit wasn’t an ANTIFA plant, it was all the other folks?

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austin_blue  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:26:01pm

re: #392 DodgerFan1988

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The Right Wing now have their martyr and are calling for blood.

Called it, and I’m not bragging.

Of course they have made a martyr of her after completely failing in their primary job of attacking and holding the Capitol.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:28:01pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:28:52pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:29:06pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:29:46pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:30:20pm

re: #306 lawhawk

Per source, White House counsel Pat Cipollone told west wing staffers today not to help Trump stage a coup or else they could be prosecuted for treason.

So — is the refusal of the DOD to cooperate with the Biden transition team due to their awareness of Trump’s plans for a coup and wished to conceal this insurrection from the new administration.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:32:32pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:33:22pm

re: #406 Ace-o-aces

Voicemail. Lol boomer.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:34:37pm

Adam Silverman over at balloons juice that Prince’s action in calling out the National Guard was illegal, because Pence isn’t in the chain of command - and he basically says our only hope is to impeach him tonight, ,otherwise Trump will invoke the insurrection act and declare martial law.

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Citizen K  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:35:11pm

The sad takeaway I’m getting from this is that this is going to happen again, and again, because the GOP by and large have decided this is good for them and to double down, and the media has decided that labeling these chuds as amorphous ‘anarchists’ in the end is the most appropriate and balanced way, despite the very accurate storm and fury from specific pundits and commentators earlier.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:35:59pm

This is I’m assuming the last tweet by that terrorist that got shot today.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:37:23pm

re: #311 The Pie Overlord!

An IRL acquaintance and FB friend posted a long meandering comment claiming that this attack was all due to Democrats who never accepted Trump as President and how they refused to acknowledge that the election was stolen in at least 6 states and cities were burned during the summer by BLM protesters. A few moments later, she posted “This was Antifa”. It is so pathetic — an educated businesswoman who is totally brainwashed.

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BigPapa  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:38:09pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:40:45pm

re: #414 BigPapa

Fucking gross.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:43:32pm

re: #408 The Pie Overlord!

He has no loyalty to anyone.

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PrairieQueen  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:43:52pm

re: #392 DodgerFan1988

If she was with them, then I DNGAF. Timothy McVeigh was also a veteran. So what? The real harm here is misplaced blame on who was responsible, who stormed the building, and how the police were less than adequate, if not accommodating.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:46:41pm

re: #417 PrairieQueen

If she was with them, then I DNGAF. Timothy McVeigh was also a veteran. So what? The real harm here is misplaced blame on who was responsible, who stormed the building, and how the police were less than adequate, if not accommodating.

They want a martyr sigh. Honestly this is the saddest day in American history. Yet another deadly day from Covid and then this domestic terrorism.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:47:12pm

So, if McConnell is on board with impeachment, how quickly could it be done?

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:48:12pm
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PrairieQueen  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:48:52pm

re: #418 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m sad for the state of America, but I am righteously pissed off and I will not forgive or forget how this bunch of right wing zealots facilitated all of it. all.of.it.

I don’t give two shits about dead terrorists, I don’t give a damn what flavor they are.

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DesertDenizen  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:49:25pm

re: #419 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

So, if McConnell is on board with impeachment, how quickly could it be done?

As I understand it, as soon as the Electoral Vote counting is done.

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Teukka  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:49:52pm

re: #417 PrairieQueen

If she was with them, then I DNGAF. Timothy McVeigh was also a veteran. So what? The real harm here is misplaced blame on who was responsible, who stormed the building, and how the police were less than adequate, if not accommodating.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:49:57pm

re: #421 PrairieQueen

I’m sad for the state of America, but I am righteously pissed off and I will not forgive or forget how this bunch of right wing zealots facilitated all of it. all.of.it.

I don’t give two shits about dead terrorists, I don’t give a damn what flavor they are.

Yeah I’m not going to forget or forgive the people who accepted this bullshit.

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Interesting Times  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:51:26pm

re: #421 PrairieQueen

I don’t give two shits about dead terrorists, I don’t give a damn what flavor they are.

Indeed. “Martyrdom” potential aside, I’m relieved it was a member of the mob who got killed as opposed to an innocent congressional staffer (my initial thought when news of the shooting first broke).

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:51:44pm
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Citizen K  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:51:52pm
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PrairieQueen  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:54:06pm

re: #424 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I’m not going to forget or forgive the people who accepted this bullshit.

Can you imagine if a group of Muslim ladies in hijabs - not a bunch of aggrieved white folks in riot gear and MAGA hats - had stormed the capitol? Can you even think of the headlines? I sure as fuck can, and it would be a helluva different than what we’re seeing today.

These fuckers are not heroes, their dead are not martyrs, and the people they idolize are literal traitors to this country.

And yeah, it is that fucking black and white.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:54:10pm

Expel This Nazi

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 6, 2021 • 8:55:43pm

re: #428 PrairieQueen

Can you imagine if a group of Muslim ladies in hijabs - not a bunch of aggrieved white folks in riot gear and MAGA hats - had stormed the capitol? Can you even think of the headlines? I sure as fuck can, and it would be a helluva different than what we’re seeing today.

These fuckers are not heroes, their dead are not martyrs, and the people they idolize are literal traitors to this country.

And yeah, it is that fucking black and white.

No argument here. It’s fucking awful. I was talking with a friend who lives in the part of DC near the MD border. He was hearing sirens all day. I hate what these assholes have done to our capital city. If I have a “home city”, it’s DC. I’ve worked in DC. I’ve been to many a concert in DC. It’s home and what these assholes did today.

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gocart mozart  Jan 6, 2021 • 9:06:37pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 6, 2021 • 10:04:17pm

re: #397 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

FIFY. 🤬🤬🤬🤬

“Lied” pronounced “leed”.

Song.

I didn’t get it either and was also thinking “past tense of lie” until I moused over the link to the Horst-Wessel-Lied.

And that’s where we are.

They’re no longer convinced that we’re after 1933, but the thing is, if they think we’re in the Nazi—Red Wars of the 20s and early 30s, that’s arguably an even worse future for some. Because it means they’re convinced they can still get back to 1933.

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Semper Fi  Jan 7, 2021 • 2:10:53am

re: #288 Belafon

Not only can he no longer serve if he’s convicted, he loses all of the stuff he would get for being president, such as a salary and security.

This sounds like it is right out of Trump’s playbook. He would screw up a persons pension, retirement, insurance, etc.


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