New Feature: Lazy Loading of Embedded Tweets

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We’ve been getting a lot of reports here at Lizard Central that LGF members were having crashing problems in the longer comment threads, and after a lot of head-scritching and puzzlement I finally narrowed down the cause to… the embedded tweets.

Twitter’s embedded tweets work like this; when you post the URL of a tweet in a comment, our code calls Twitter’s API and gets a special block of HTML code that includes the text of the tweet, the author’s info, and its creation time. This HTML code is what first appears in a comment; it’s the “un-rendered” version of the tweet.

Once this HTML is placed in a web page, Twitter’s Javascript code (loaded in a file named widgets.js) finds those special blocks of HTML and transforms (or “renders”) them with the Twitter look, and with images, videos, etc.

But Twitter has been messing around with their code for rendering embedded tweets lately, and while it has expanded some of their functionality, the downside is they’ve been getting slower and slower to load. I investigated a bit, and discovered each rendered tweet is now loading no fewer than EIGHT external Javascript files, which probably explains a lot of the slowdown.

All of which leads us to the new feature.

When a page of comments loads now, instead of going through all of them and rendering them, our code stops that automatic rendering and leaves the tweets in their initial “un-rendered” text-only state.

And to let you see the actual fully rendered tweet, a button (that looks like a recycling symbol) is added to our blue action bar beneath the tweet. Click it and the tweet will be rendered by Twitter’s code, which works fast enough when it’s only doing one at a time.

And there’s actually a big advantage to this new approach; long comment threads now finish loading a whole lot faster, and people with limited memory devices like phones and tablets should be able to participate in much longer threads than before.

If you’re using a desktop computer and don’t have any crashing issues with pages full of embedded tweets, you can set it to always show embedded tweets with the checkbox at the top right of the comments.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:21:47pm
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:23:19pm

Bravo for the on-the-fly problem solving, Charles.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:25:44pm
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:27:52pm
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:32:29pm

Trump’s scheme to steal the election was under way for a long time.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:44:32pm

Looking back at this with a post 1/6 perspective, it’s all sedition.

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:49:01pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:54:21pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 14, 2021 • 7:57:03pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:05:35pm

re: #8 Barefoot Grin

I never thought Charlie Kirk would take an interest in terrorism. He had a cushy gig.

He brainwashed idiots to try to use them to steal an election, and bused them to the Capitol to at the very least intimidate lawmakers, with some believing they were participants in a violent revolution.

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:18:16pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:30:11pm

Never thought I would say this but once restaurants open again I may pay a visit to Olive Garden…

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:30:34pm

re: #11 Teukka

[Embedded content]

OCR’d the text:

As viruses go, SARS-CoV-2, is quite easy to neutralize with antibodies and, it turns out, straightforward to generate effective vaccines based on the spike protein. Perhaps, even probably, those two properties are causally related. Moreover, it appears that it is quite hard (albeit not impossible) to generate resistant spike variants that evade the polyclonal antibody responses elicited by said vaccines. This is all excellent news.

However, if I had a nefarious nature and wanted to ensure that the new SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were rendered impotent, these are a few things I would try.

First, we’d want to maximize the viral population size and diversity. Because SARS-CoV-2 has a proofreading polymerase, we might have to work hard to do this. The four measures outlined below might help accomplish this, assisting the virus to explore as much genetic diversity as possible, generating every conceivable point mutation as frequently as possible.

1. Delay the rollout of testing, so that the virus could spread undetected, seeding outbreaks in geographically, demographically and culturally diverse host populations, rendering it virtually impossible to quash with test-trace-isolate approaches.

2. Implement partial and patchy restrictions on movement and social interactions, thus maintaining consistently large pools of infected individuals.

3. Keep schools open, claiming that children don’t frequently transmit SARS-CoV-2. Because children have generally mild and perhaps more frequently asymptomatic infections, diversifying viral populations are more likely to spread undetected.

4. Start a rumor-mill, making full use of social media and other outlets, with topics such as masks are unnecessary or don’t work, that PCR tests are too sensitive or unreliable, that infection-induced “herd immunity” is a reasonable strategy, or even that SARS-CoV-2 isn’t real. Undermining already inadequate public health measures helps keep viral population sizes large.

Second, during or after the establishment of large and diverse viral populations, we’d begin to apply selection pressure to enrich antibody resistance mutations. For that, we would elicit the help of the medical establishment to implement measures 5 and 6. They, laudably, want to help as many people as possible as quickly as possible — we could exploit this.

5. Treat tens of thousands of people with uncharacterized convalescent plasma of weak unknown potency, without proper clinical trials, to get the ball rolling in applying some selection pressure to enrich for antibody resistant variants. (Again, I don’t know how effective this would be since it is mostly done in hospitals, where onward transmission would presumably be rare, but it would certainly be worth a try) Immunocompromised individuals with persistent infection might be especially helpful here.

6. Finally, and here’s the kicker: having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, that is extraordinarily effective, ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE - BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. Generating a pool of hosts with just the right amount of neutralizing antibody to apply selection pressure, but also maintain sufficient levels of partially antibody-resistant virus to allow onward transmission is key here. We might not achieve this shortly after the first dose, but if we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot.

Of course, I don’t know if the above would be successful, but that’s what I’d try if I wanted to generate vaccine-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:40:45pm

re: #12 🌹UOJB!

Never thought I would say this but once restaurants open again I may pay a visit to Olive Garden…

[Embedded content]

Err…..A Portland Designer Tricked the Internet Into Thinking Olive Garden Had Revoked a “Lifetime Pasta Pass” for Sean Hannity

That led to Hannity having to address the issue on Fox. Naturally, he called it “fake news.”

It’s not “news” of any kind, fake or otherwise. Pretty funny that Lumpy had to go on Fox to deny it though.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:43:56pm

re: #14 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Err…..A Portland Designer Tricked the Internet Into Thinking Olive Garden Had Revoked a “Lifetime Pasta Pass” for Sean Hannity

It’s not “news” of any kind, fake or otherwise. Pretty funny that Lumpy had to go on Fox to deny it though.

I just can’t stop laughing that Lumpy had to deny it!

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:45:45pm

re: #14 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Err…..A Portland Designer Tricked the Internet Into Thinking Olive Garden Had Revoked a “Lifetime Pasta Pass” for Sean Hannity

It’s not “news” of any kind, fake or otherwise. Pretty funny that Lumpy had to go on Fox to deny it though.

Tagged as fake in my image library.

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:45:51pm

Xx

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:50:57pm

The Right is gonna be milking this FBI arrest as evidence that Antifa & BLM were responsible for the Capitol attack.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:56:51pm

re: #18 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

The Right is gonna be milking this FBI arrest as evidence that Antifa & BLM were responsible for the Capitol attack.

Yeah, Sullivan is a half-baked communard who makes a minor career out of rioting in DC. Looks like he’s out of business for a while though.

In the meantime, another undoubted Q-ball bites the dust:
Former Cleveland schools’ therapist arrested on federal charges involving attack at U.S. Capitol

The day after the rally, Priola submitted her resignation from the school district in a conspiracy-laden letter to officials. In it, she said refused to take a coronavirus vaccine to return to classes and did not agree with union dues “which help fund people and groups that support the killing of unborn children.”

She also said she will be “switching paths to expose the global evil of human trafficking and pedophilia, including in our government agencies and children’s services agencies.”

Priola graduated from Eastlake North High School and earned a bachelor’s degree in biology at Capital University before attending the University of Indianapolis for her graduate degree, according to her personnel file. She began working as an occupational therapist with Cleveland Schools in August 2000. She has a grown daughter.

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 8:57:12pm

re: #18 DodgerFan1988

The Right is gonna be milking this FBI arrest as evidence that Antifa & BLM were responsible for the Capitol attack.

“Activist John” is a known individual to the left, and is kicked out from most places because of his ties to the extreme right, and if I remember correctly for exposing such views.

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raistuumum  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:00:01pm

*employers to pay

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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:02:22pm

High Don!!

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bratwurst  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:04:46pm

Uh, kinda kills the joke when it is not visible that Ms Warwick is being asked her biggest regret.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:07:33pm
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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:07:43pm

re: #20 Teukka

“Activist John” is a known individual to the left, and is kicked out from most places because of his ties to the extreme right, and if I remember correctly for exposing such views.

I hope that the feds apply the (figuratively) thumbscrews on this one, and manage to (figuratively) crack him, making him squeal loud, long, and in detail… It won’t surprise me the least if he is a paid AP (Agent Provocateur) of the extreme right.

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mmmirele  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:10:00pm

re: #18 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

The Right is gonna be milking this FBI arrest as evidence that Antifa & BLM were responsible for the Capitol attack.

Sullivan was excluded from Black Lives Matter and anti-fascist protesting in Salt Lake City for his chaos.

That said, and this is from a few days ago, but the very, very conservative and Christian World magazine posted an article saying the FBI did not see signs of antifa.

world.wng.org

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piratedan  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:15:09pm

re: #26 mmmirele

true, but this is Faux News, you think they’re gonna let the truth stand in the way of a good narrative.

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:16:32pm

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:25:17pm

re: #26 mmmirele

Sullivan was excluded from Black Lives Matter and anti-fascist protesting in Salt Lake City for his chaos.

That said, and this is from a few days ago, but the very, very conservative and Christian World magazine posted an article saying the FBI did not see signs of antifa.

world.wng.org

Moar on “Activist John”:

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:29:40pm

re: #29 Teukka

Moar on “Activist John”:

“According to self-described BLM and anti-fascist activists familiar with the 26-year-old Sullivan, he is best known for his propensity for inspiring chaos, engaging in counterproductive tactics that often trigger arrests, and consistently undermining BLM objectives. From Salt Lake City to Portland to Washington, DC, left-wing activists consider him persona non grata.”

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:30:19pm

The Answer to comments about Activist John is that he has never been invited to the White House and he’s not allowed in any actual BLM groups. Thus, he doesn’t represent anyone at any level in the Democratic Party.

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:34:31pm
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Teukka  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:38:00pm

Ohlawdhavmercee….

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Mattand  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:39:15pm
I investigated a bit, and discovered each rendered tweet is now loading no fewer than EIGHT external Javascript files, which probably explains a lot of the slowdown.

Wow.

Why on God’s green earth would they be doing that? Code bloat?

Anyways, like I said before, good job on the update. I’ve seen a marked improvement on the iPad.

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Jack Burton  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:47:18pm

re: #21 raistuumum

[Embedded content]

Weren’t all the BernieBros telling us Biden was against this?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:48:30pm
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Jack Burton  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:53:21pm

I just found out there’s an assault rifle in Cyberpunk 2077 called “Moron Labe”.

HAHAHAHAHA

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 14, 2021 • 9:58:17pm

re: #21 raistuumum

Good! I was an HR Director at a non profit that employed developmentally disabled people at a lower than minimum wage. When AZ raised the minimum wage, there was no carve out for developmentally disabled, the assholes got it removed. No matter who you are: You do the work, you get the wage afforded to you.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2021 • 10:05:16pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2021 • 10:31:14pm

Musical interlude at 9:45. Worth it. Cody Frye is extremely talented.

Cory and The Wongnotes // COLLABORATION (feat. Cody Fry) [Ep. 1]

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jan 14, 2021 • 10:44:57pm

re: #35 Jack Burton

Weren’t all the BernieBros telling us Biden was against this?

They still are.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2021 • 10:45:24pm
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electrotek  Jan 14, 2021 • 10:45:44pm

Donald Trump is the American Shoko Asahara

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:06:23pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:08:46pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:16:43pm

re: #43 electrotek

Donald Trump is the American Shoko Asahara

Wiki did tell me who Shoko Asahara was — but other than both men being cult leaders and evil bullies, they are dissimilar in personal background, influence, and damage they caused to their nations. Shoko did not rise to leader of Japan; the destruction he inflicted was terrifying but very limited in scope and had little impact on Japanese economy, foreign relationships, or the future. OTOH Trump has had a devastating impact on all aspects of American society and, through negligence, has successfully murdered far more citizens than Shoko did through direct malicious attack.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:19:34pm

re: #45 Dread Pirate Ron

It’s the latest hot take from the evangelical crowd. In order to sound above-it-all, some in the evangelical crowd (such as the Al Mohler gang) are doing their best to obfuscate by throwing up miscellaneous objections to those trying to rightly assign cause and effect. Even if this gang of evangelicals state they are against what happened on the 6th, they are desperate to not blame white evangelicals.

On the other hand, Franklin Graham represents the division of the fundamentalists, those who are all in on the insurrection.

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electrotek  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:22:07pm

re: #46 Hecuba’s daughter

Wiki did tell me who Shoko Asahara was — but other than both men being cult leaders and evil bullies, they are dissimilar in personal background, influence, and damage they caused to their nations. Shoko did not rise to leader of Japan; the destruction he inflicted was terrifying but very limited in scope and had little impact on Japanese economy, foreign relationships, or the future. OTOH Trump has had a devastating impact on all aspects of American society and, through negligence, has successfully murdered far more citizens than Shoko did through direct malicious attack.

True. The impact of Trump was severe than that of Asahara.

But like Trump, Asahara was not only able to attract upper-classes into his fold, but even many JSDF military service members were swayed by him as well (similar to how Trump commands much support among many in the military, alarmingly enough).

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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:25:27pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:32:45pm

The Lazy Tweet solution is a clever work around the awfulness of Twitter baggage.

May I suggest a different icon than the recycle icon? (It looks quite a bit like the retweet button.)

Maybe something like the film projector: 📽 (for “roll ‘em”.)

Or a key: 🔑 (for “unlock”) or lock 🔓 .

Perhaps a box to open? 🎁

Or perhaps most appropriate for social media, a radioactive warning: ☢️

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:41:28pm

Most here are dismissive of efforts by Biden to reach out to Republicans, but it does not hurt for him to talk to those who did not challenge the electoral votes. At least they are legislators who are tethered to reality and support the Constitution (except for McConnell). It would be great if there were some way to expel the 8 Senators who betrayed their oath (and Ron Johnson) and most of the House members who did the same, especially McCarthy, Scalise, Nunes, Jordan, Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Gohmert, Miller, and Cawthorn. But that’s not likely to happen.

Biden shouldn’t constrain himself by what GOP legislators demand, but it would allow him the opportunity to try to rebuild some semblance of comity and start deprogramming the 74 million Americans who thought that Trump deserved another term.

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Scout  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:46:39pm

re: #43 electrotek

Donald Trump is the American Shoko Asahara

I was on the Keihin-Tohoku Line rolling into Tokyo on the morning of March 20, 1995. You do not bring up pleasant memories.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 14, 2021 • 11:47:27pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:00:35am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:10:29am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:14:51am

re: #45 Dread Pirate Ron

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Dave In Austin  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:19:23am

re: #55 Ace-o-aces

I took me about 30 sec, then I fell out of my chair……. Doesn’t he have a portrait of Jackson in there as well?

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:20:47am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

I took me about 30 sec, then I fell out of my chair……. Doesn’t he have a portrait of Jackson in there as well?

Yeah, first order of business for the Biden administration will be to inventory everything in the White House to see what’s missing.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:21:18am
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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:25:47am

re: #51 Hecuba’s daughter

Most here are dismissive of efforts by Biden to reach out to Republicans, but it does not hurt for him to talk to those who did not challenge the electoral votes. At least they are legislators who are tethered to reality and support the Constitution (except for McConnell). It would be great if there were some way to expel the 8 Senators who betrayed their oath (and Ron Johnson) and most of the House members who did the same, especially McCarthy, Scalise, Nunes, Jordan, Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Gohmert, Miller, and Cawthorn. But that’s not likely to happen.

Biden shouldn’t constrain himself by what GOP legislators demand, but it would allow him the opportunity to try to rebuild some semblance of comity and start deprogramming the 74 million Americans who thought that Trump deserved another term.

I don’t expect it to work, but he does have to try. And he has Obama’s experience to remind him that he shouldn’t waste his time after they turn him down once.

I understand that the House members who voted to challenge the election will be frozen out — can’t introduce bills, won’t get committee memberships. I don’t know what, if anything can be done about Senators.

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Targetpractice  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:46:27am

re: #60 A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!

I don’t expect it to work, but he does have to try. And he has Obama’s experience to remind him that he shouldn’t waste his time after they turn him down once.

I understand that the House members who voted to challenge the election will be frozen out — can’t introduce bills, won’t get committee memberships. I don’t know what, if anything can be done about Senators.

The answer to that question depends on Manchin and Feinstein, who both seem to still believe it’s 1981 and they’re dealing with Repubs who are willing to work together with them instead of constantly turn every bill into a political statement.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 15, 2021 • 12:52:43am

Russia is working a PR battle against the US in Vaccine safety, bringing up deaths in Norway allegedly related to Pfizer vaccine after bad reports about the Russia vaccine.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:01:37am

re: #51 Hecuba’s daughter

Most here are dismissive of efforts by Biden to reach out to Republicans, but it does not hurt for him to talk to those who did not challenge the electoral votes. At least they are legislators who are tethered to reality and support the Constitution (except for McConnell). It would be great if there were some way to expel the 8 Senators who betrayed their oath (and Ron Johnson) and most of the House members who did the same, especially McCarthy, Scalise, Nunes, Jordan, Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Gohmert, Miller, and Cawthorn. But that’s not likely to happen.

Biden shouldn’t constrain himself by what GOP legislators demand, but it would allow him the opportunity to try to rebuild some semblance of comity and start deprogramming the 74 million Americans who thought that Trump deserved another term.

Mo Brooks of AL5 and his senatorial mirror, Tuberville, need to be in that bunch. Throw in Barry Moore, AL2, who jumped in even before he took his seat.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:02:58am

re: #63 Decatur Deb

Mo Brooks of AL5 and his senatorial mirror, Tuberville, need to be in that bunch. Throw in Barry Moore, AL2, who jumped in even before he took his seat.

There’s a lot of cleanup to be done in the state legislatures as well. Pennsylvania’s in particular could use a good scrubbing out.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:05:51am

re: #60 A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!

I don’t know what, if anything can be done about Senators.

Put Tuberville in a broom-closet office, and hang Nick Saban’s portrait opposite the door.

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steve_davis  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:06:33am

re: #9 The Pie Overlord!

I love how when he writes “folks” I can freakin’ hear him saying it in my head.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:17:52am

Marianne Faithfull’s CV19 ICU story—it fits her very well. (Her survivor-fu makes Keith Richards look like a woose,)

Marianne Faithfull: ‘I was in a dark place. Presumably it was death’
theguardian.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:24:22am

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Marianne Faithfull’s CV19 ICU story—it fits her very well. (Her survivor-fu makes Keith Richards look like a woose,)

Marianne Faithfull: ‘I was in a dark place. Presumably it was death’
theguardian.com

tell me, Sister Morphine

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:25:58am

re: #67 Decatur Deb

Marianne Faithfull’s CV19 ICU story—it fits her very well. (Her survivor-fu makes Keith Richards look like a woose,)

Marianne Faithfull: ‘I was in a dark place. Presumably it was death’
theguardian.com

Ellis says that She Walks in Beauty is the album Faithfull has “wanted to make all her life”. There’s a chance that it might also be her last: the after-effects of Covid on her lungs mean she is currently unable to sing. “And I may not be able to sing ever again,” she says. “Maybe that’s over. I would be incredibly upset if that was the case, but, on the other hand, I am 74. I don’t feel cursed and I don’t feel invincible. I just feel fucking human. But what I do believe in, which gives me hope, I do believe in miracles. You know, the doctor, this really nice National Health doctor, she came to see me and she told me that she didn’t think my lungs would ever recover. And where I finally ended up is: OK, maybe they won’t, but maybe, by a miracle, they will.

I fell in love with her later-in-life ‘whisky and cigarettes’ voice. I saw her on an Austin City Limits concert, iirc, in the early 90s.

YouTube

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Ming5000  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:34:59am

Decent people need to continue to root out these MAGA cultists. They are an ongoing threat to society and our children.
From the Ben Shapiro / Politico discussion, they are not cute or impish or quirky; they need a realignment.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:46:50am

A ‘new to me’ Lisa LeBlanc performance.

YouTube

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:48:44am

re: #70 Ming5000

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:51:41am
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Ming5000  Jan 15, 2021 • 1:58:14am

re: #62 Dread Pirate Ron

Russia is working a PR battle against the US in Vaccine safety, bringing up deaths in Norway allegedly related to Pfizer vaccine after bad reports about the Russia vaccine.

[Embedded content]

Twitter doesn’t have a good way to report something like this; a misinformation campaign. Reported anyway, as best I could

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Ming5000  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:00:08am

Free WaPo 30 day pass.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:08:29am

re: #71 Dread Pirate Ron

New to me—quite cool.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:16:29am

re: #76 Decatur Deb

New to me—quite cool.

I found her through the Canadian TV show Letterkenny. When they fight with the Quebecois they played the lead-in to this song and I hunted it down.

YouTube

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Ming5000  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:20:54am

To the insurrectionists who falsely claim to be patriots:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:23:20am

…followed by higher tax tiers.

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Ming5000  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:29:42am

re: #79 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

…followed by higher tax tiers.

Good. The rich have a whole economy based on reducing tax liability.

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Targetpractice  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:45:06am

re: #79 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

…followed by higher tax tiers.

Rebuilding the economy so that the economy can be taxed to pay off the federal debt.

What a novel concept.//////

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 2:54:18am

re: #44 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

petty true to form.

this is not the end.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:13:57am

I’m not for “putting it all behind us”

however if you were serious, a first step might be every single republican admitting and apologizing Biden won. no ifs ands or equivocation

and now
not after inauguration

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:16:08am

because this

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:16:46am

re: #83 Dangerman

I’m not for “putting it all behind us”

would be tantamount to Lincoln making peace with the Confederacy…

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Teukka  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:22:30am

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Ming5000  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:24:08am

re: #86 Teukka

What is this? What are all the numbers?
I am clueless

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Teukka  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:26:13am

re: #87 Ming5000

What is this? What are all the numbers?
I am clueless

Some chan board, likely 8kun or 4chan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:26:20am

re: #87 Ming5000

What is this? What are all the numbers?
I am clueless

“red pill” is a reference to The Matrix

the main point is that America along with its social/political discourse has grown increasingly detached from reality.

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Teukka  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:28:58am

Fresh off the presses at Oxford U:
Industrialized Disinformation: 2020 Global Inventory of Organized Social Media Manipulation
Executive Summary:

The manipulation of public opinion over social media remains a critical threat to democracy. Over the past four years, we have monitored the global organization of social media manipulation by governments and political parties, and the various private companies and other organizations they work with to spread disinformation.
Our 2020 report highlights the recent trends of computational propaganda across 81 countries and the evolving tools, capacities, strategies, and resources used to manipulate public opinion around the globe. We identify three key trends in this year’s inventory of disinformation activity:
(1) Cyber troop activity continues to increase around the world. This year, we found evidence of 81 countries using social media to spread computational propaganda and disinformation about politics. This has increased from last years’ report, in which we identified 70 countries with cyber troop activity.
(2) Over the last year, social media firms have taken important steps to combat the misuse of their platforms by cyber troops. Public announcements by Facebook and Twitter between January 2019 and December 2020 reveal that more than 317,000 accounts and pages have been removed by the platforms. Nonetheless, almost US $10 million has still been spent on political advertisements by cyber troops operating around the world.
(3) Private firms increasingly provide manipulation campaigns. Over the last year, we found forty- eight instances of private companies deploying computational propaganda on behalf of a political actor. Since 2018 there have been more than 65 firms offering computational propaganda as a service. In total, we have found almost US $60 million was spent on hiring these firms since 2009.

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 3:56:47am

Refreshing to hear Morning Joe flat out call Republicans fascists. Call a spade a spade.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:06:38am

re: #86 Teukka

Those numbers are probably referencing previous QAnon “drops”.

Meanwhile, here in Czech Republic, the government’s much-vaunted vaccine registration system crashed within minutes of going live.

Apparently, the contract was awarded to some rinky-dink outfit no one’s ever heard of and it never occurred to anyone to see what kind of data traffic load the system could handle.

I imagine the “amazingly high-tech, thoroughly state-of-the-art” computer being used to run this whole thing probably looks a lot like this….

Another day, another episode of one of the more surreal sitcoms I’ve ever seen. 🙄

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:10:18am

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

Those numbers are probably referencing previous QAnon “drops”.

Meanwhile, here in Czech Republic, the government’s much-vaunted vaccine registration system crashed within minutes of going live.

Apparently, the contract was awarded to some rinky-dink outfit no one’s ever heard of and it never occurred to anyone to see what kind of data traffic load the system could handle.

I imagine the “amazingly high-tech, thoroughly state-of-the-art” computer being used to run this whole thing probably looks a lot like this….

[Embedded content]

Another day, another episode of one of the more surreal sitcoms I’ve ever seen. 🙄

It would be funny if so many people weren’t dying.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:11:50am

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, here in Czech Republic, the government’s much-vaunted vaccine registration system crashed within minutes of going live.

Apparently, the contract was awarded to some rinky-dink outfit no one’s ever heard of and it never occurred to anyone to see what kind of data traffic load the system could handle.

This, right here? This is why bad programmers and shady programming outfits should be lined up against the wall and shot. In my profession, depending on the job you take, if you fuck up, PEOPLE DIE. Get good or get the fuck out.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:17:05am

Hunting the Wren (Live in Dublin)

The wren is a small bird
How pretty she sings
She bested the eagle
When she hid in its wings

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:17:27am

re: #93 NO SMOCKING GUN!

re: #94 thedopefishlives

Here, it’s becoming tragicomic farce.

The reason the government went with some no-name rinky-dink outfit is quite simple….they want to save money and/or the owner of the aforementioned no-name rinky-dink outfit is well-connected to someone high-up in the government (friend or relative or something). Unfortunately, because the ongoing official state of emergency allows the government to procure necessary goods and services without competitive bidding, and in total secrecy, there’s a good chance we’ll never know for sure. But I really wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t some cronyism or nepotism involved.

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:18:34am

Important. With more contagious variants of Covid spreading, and being hopefully only weeks or a few months away from getting vaccinated, now is the time to clamp down harder on safety measures to get through this pandemic. I ordered N95 masks, will double mask, and will order my groceries online for curbside pickup. Don’t contract Covid in 2021! vox.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:27:51am

hi briefly

In regional news, Gov. Pete Ricketts has cancelled his trip to Scottsbluff due to the continuing high winds in the area. Winds are forty miles per hour, higher in gusts. The wind warning expires at 11AM Friday. Further east in this area, winds are currently fifty-five miles per hour, higher in gusts. My neighbour reclaimed his gutter lying in my yard.

A bench trial of the Dawes County Sheriff (county seat Chadron) has concluded. If convicted he would be sentenced to six months in jail and be referred to the state review board for removal of his police certification.

According to the Chadron Record he was arrested by the Chadron Police Department for refusing to book into the county jail a kidnapper and rapist arrested by the Nebraska State Patrol of a native American woman from the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. After holding her several days there, he drove her into Nebraska and held her in a Chadron motel, then dropped her off at the Chadron hospital. She suffered from broken bones and other injuries in addition to the rape.

The Dawes County Sheriff refused to take him alleging the Chadron jail has no medical facilities and the county would be liable for lawsuits (the prisoner has no medical issues). The Chadron police then took him to the Scott’s Bluff County jail in Gering.

Prosecutors allege that the sheriff had long running animus with both the Chadron Police Department and the State Patrol, which was his actual motivation for refusing the prisoner.

It is a violation of state law for a county sheriff to refuse reception of a prisoner duly arrested. If the actual concern was medical issues, he could have booked the prisoner into jail then transferred him.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:31:09am

Wrens of the Curragh

The Wrens of the Curragh were a community of women in nineteenth-century Ireland who lived outside society on the plains of Kildare, many of whom were sex workers at Curragh Camp. Records date back to the 1840s of women living on the Curragh nearby the army camp. Many of the women were orphans because of the Great Famine, resulting in them using prostitution to provide for themselves. The women developed a lifestyle in which money, homes, belongings, food, and childcare were shared. The community of women was originally covered by Charles Dickens in his journal, later being covered in novels, a poem, music, a podcast, and art.

en.wikipedia.org

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ericblair  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:34:40am

re: #96 Dr Lizardo

Here, it’s becoming tragicomic farce.

The reason the government went with some no-name rinky-dink outfit is quite simple….they want to save money and/or the owner of the aforementioned no-name rinky-dink outfit is well-connected to someone high-up in the government (friend or relative or something). Unfortunately, because the ongoing official state of emergency allows the government to procure necessary goods and services without competitive bidding, and in total secrecy, there’s a good chance we’ll never know for sure. But I really wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t some cronyism or nepotism involved.

Yep. If you’ve been on the contractor side of a real, formal, correctly executed IT service request for proposal, it’s a difficult and extensive process. Past Performance on similar tasks is a thing, and they want a full technical and staffing plan. However, if you’re stuffing money in your buddies’ pockets, it’s considerably less so. See also Brexit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:43:17am

An article about the twentieth-highest state high point in the USA, higher than Denver.

State’s highest point: Visiting Panorama Point near Bushnell (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, with photographs)

Nebraska, known more for rolling prairies than dramatic vistas, is home to a point where the elevation is higher than that of Denver, the famed Mile High City.

Checking in at 5,424 feet above sea level, Panorama Point, also known as Constable Mountain, in southwestern Kimball County is the highest natural point in Nebraska, having been recognized as such more than 70 years ago when it was found by Art Henrickson and Claude Aiden using a World War I altimeter. The elevation makes it the 20th highest high point among the 50 states. As reference, the highest point on Scotts Bluff National Monument is 4,659 feet.

Panorama Point itself is located on the High Point Bison Ranch, which allows visitors to drive to the site as long as they avoid the ranging bison and drop a $3 fee at the entry gate. The ranch is a working bison ranch, owned and operated by Glen and Jill Klawonn, and is now in its fourth generation on the land. The donation is used to assist with maintaining the road to the site, which can be accessed from either Bushnell or Pine Bluffs, Wyoming.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 4:49:34am

KCNC-TV (Denver, CBS)

DENVER (CBS4) - A Denver woman has lodged an official complaint with Denver’s Ethics Board against Denver Mayor Michael Hancock [D] over his out-of-state travel during the 2020 Thanksgiving holiday. The complaint states the mayor’s actions were unethical and showed him “abusing his office for his own benefit and for the benefit of his immediate family members.”

Tonia Wilson, who filed the complaint, told CBS4 she filed the ethics complaint “because so many Denver residents, including myself, were angered by the hypocrisy of our Mayor’s actions.”

The ethics board voted 5-0 to seek a formal response from Hancock on Wilson’s complaint.

Just before Thanksgiving, Hancock urged Denver residents not to travel.

“Stay home as much as you can,” tweeted Hancock. “Host virtual gatherings instead of in person dinners. Avoid travel if you can.”

He then boarded a flight an hour later to celebrate Thanksgiving in Mississippi with his wife and daughter. Hancock later apologized for his actions.

(more)

Ethics Complaint Filed Against Mayor Hancock Over His Thanksgiving Travel

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:04:05am

re: #22 Dave In Austin

High Don!!

Honestly, not having Twitter is killing trump. 👏🏻👏🏻

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:04:56am

Tomorrow is National Religious Freedom Day, originally adopted to commemorate the landmark adoption of Thomas Jefferson’s “Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom,” the basis for the later I Amendment Free Exercise clause.

It is annually proclaimed by the President.

In recent decades, Christians have hijacked the date to proclaim “our religion” and to declare days of (Christian) prayer against abortion, such as my governor has done this year.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:27:15am

re: #52 Scout

I was on the Keihin-Tohoku Line rolling into Tokyo on the morning of March 20, 1995. You do not bring up pleasant memories.

I was touring the old Imperial Palace in Kyoto with a friend. I was living in Kansai at the time, so it was surreal from a distance. I did run across these folks in Tokyo in the late 1980s when they wore fluffy white robes and danced with elephant hats in places like Yoyogi. Seemed harmless at the time.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:28:20am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:29:27am

re: #103 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Honestly, not having Twitter is killing trump. 👏🏻👏🏻

WTF are “manned people?”

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:30:09am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

WTF are “manned people?”

As opposed to unmanned people, which are the drones us lizardoids use when we need to interact with the vast unwashed.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:34:19am

I always think of trickle-down as crumbs-down economics: let the rich have 90% of the cake and everyone else below hope that a few crumbs fall out of their mouths and hope they don’t get stuck to their shirts or fall in their laps.

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b.d. (Be Best!)  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:38:09am

re: #106 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

I am totally fine with a “why did the cops allow ANTIFA to storm the Capitol” inquiries and hearings if that is what it takes to get the GOP on board and serious.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:38:23am

re: #109 Barefoot Grin

I always think of trickle-down as crumbs-down economics: let the rich have 90% of the cake and everyone else below hope that a few crumbs fall out of their mouths and hope they don’t get stuck to their shirts or fall in their laps.

In the 1890’s it was referred to as “horse and sparrow” economics (same system, different century).

As promoted then, you feed the horse (the rich) oats, and some of them would pass out with the horse apples so that the sparrows (the poor) could pick out remains.

This was a serious Republican argument, which also tells you what they think about poor people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:39:29am

re: #110 b.d. (We Won!)

I am totally fine with a “why did the cops allow ANTIFA to storm the Capitol” inquiries and hearings if that is what it takes to get the GOP on board and serious.

I’m not. Propaganda must be opposed. If that narrative is allowed to go on in Congress, they will be using the power of their office to continue to spread insurrection.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:39:30am

re: #97 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Important. With more contagious variants of Covid spreading, and being hopefully only weeks or a few months away from getting vaccinated, now is the time to clamp down harder on safety measures to get through this pandemic. I ordered N95 masks, will double mask, and will order my groceries online for curbside pickup. Don’t contract Covid in 2021! vox.com

Exactly.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:41:33am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not. Propaganda must be opposed. If that narrative is allowed to go on in Congress, they will be using the power of their office to continue to spread insurrection.

Not to mention that if they allow a hearing on it, then it will become a fact in wingnut circles, like so: IF THERE WASN’T ANYTHING THERE THEN WHY WOULD CONGRESS HOLD HEARINGS ON IT HUH?!?!?!? We saw the same thing with the eleventy-billion Benghazi hearings; constantly about how it was being investigated, literally zero about the outcome of those investigations.

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b.d. (Be Best!)  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:42:06am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not. Propaganda must be opposed. If that narrative is allowed to go on in Congress, they will be using the power of their office to continue to spread insurrection.

I offer that because ANTIFA is a nothingburger and it will be exposed as the MAGA cult.

But I see your point.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:42:07am

re: #109 Barefoot Grin

I always think of trickle-down as crumbs-down economics: let the rich have 90% of the cake and everyone else below hope that a few crumbs fall out of their mouths and hope they don’t get stuck to their shirts or fall in their laps.

Yeah, but who made the cake?

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:46:34am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:46:54am

re: #8 Barefoot Grin

Is posting misinformation a crime? Unfortunately, Conservatives see no contradiction between claiming to be Christians and lying their butts off. Unless they can be held criminally liable, they’re more than happy to lie.

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:49:02am

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

Is posting misinformation a crime? Unfortunately, Conservatives see no contradiction between claiming to be Christians and lying their butts off. Unless they can be held criminally liable, they’re more than happy to lie.

No, merely lying is protected by the first amendment. This is important, because if people could be prosecuted for “lying”, authoritarian governments would abuse that power by prosecuting people who tell the truth.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:49:49am

re: #110 b.d. (We Won!)

Antifa didn’t storm the Capitol so that would just be perpetuating a rightwing lie. Any serious inquiry needs to focus on the facts and not on b.s.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:50:16am

re: #29 Teukka

Moar on “Activist John”:

Kinda hard to take this seriously unless there’s stuff I’m not aware of.

“And, again, what I said is that Antifa goes off of basic psychological warfare, and they’re seeing that the Trump supporters are very, very emotional - kind of on a knife’s edge… [Antifa is] organized. You know, they’re a well oiled machine. So like, they planned this, to change the public opinion against Trump supporters, and to create anarchy in the country.”

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:50:32am

re: #120 Patricia Kayden

Antifa didn’t storm the Capitol so that would just be perpetuating a rightwing lie. Any serious inquiry needs to focus on the facts and not on b.s.

Once again, I refer you to my #114 and the Benghazi boondoggle.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:52:01am

re: #116 BlueSpotinAL

Yeah, but who made the cake?

Yes!

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A Cranky One  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:53:40am

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:53:52am

This is what I wake up to

“I think the president for all intents and purposes is not the president. He’s just nuts. He’s going crazy,”

— Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), quoted by CBS News.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:57:22am

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:57:44am

re: #54 Dread Pirate Ron

At least Langford did have the grace not to vote with the seditionists when they reconvened; too bad his speech showed that he was onboard with giving credence to the Trump lies, which he most definitely knew were lies. Ye olde — “because so many people believed in these lies, instead of my denouncing them as fabrications not worthy of investigation, I’m going to pretend that they have merit so that I can retain the support of the Trump base and not be primaried”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 5:59:04am

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

Is posting misinformation a crime? Unfortunately, Conservatives see no contradiction between claiming to be Christians and lying their butts off. Unless they can be held criminally liable, they’re more than happy to lie.

Lying their butts off (pious fraud, ends justify the means) has been going on as long as Christianity has. Lactantius wildly exaggerated Roman orgies as evidence Christianity was somehow more moral than Roman paganism.

It’s amazing how many Christians are suddenly shocked to find gambling in this establishment.

How it may be lawful and fitting to use falsehood as a medicine, and for the benefit of those who want to be deceived.—Eusebius, c. 260-c. 340

Protestants carried on the tradition

What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church … a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.—Martin Luther

Christians will also lie about other Christians (Protestants: Catholics aren’t real Christians)

Christians also lie about secular issues (America was founded as a Christian state), lying about atheists, lying about conversions during school shootings (Columbine being a very famous example where Christians claimed the shooters were only killing Christians after asking what they believed).

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:02:34am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:04:33am

From this day forward, we can change the religious name of January 6 from the Feast of the Epiphany to the Feast of the Insurrection.

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lizardofid  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:09:26am

Good morning!

This may be old, but the link is to a World Tree page on the President Carter Collection of instruments. They were made from the wood of a Paulownia tree, cultivated by the ex president on his GA farm. It includes a short video.

Link

Edit collection name.

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Teukka  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:12:37am

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

Those numbers are probably referencing previous QAnon “drops”.

Meanwhile, here in Czech Republic, the government’s much-vaunted vaccine registration system crashed within minutes of going live.

Apparently, the contract was awarded to some rinky-dink outfit no one’s ever heard of and it never occurred to anyone to see what kind of data traffic load the system could handle.

I imagine the “amazingly high-tech, thoroughly state-of-the-art” computer being used to run this whole thing probably looks a lot like this….

[Embedded content]

Another day, another episode of one of the more surreal sitcoms I’ve ever seen. 🙄

Nah, could also refer to previous posts in a given thread.

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ericblair  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:13:29am

re: #119 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No, merely lying is protected by the first amendment. This is important, because if people could be prosecuted for “lying”, authoritarian governments would abuse that power by prosecuting people who tell the truth.

It would be good to have a primer on this by some law-talking-guy/gal: lying is protected, but fraud isn’t. Obscenity isn’t protected, but apparently “kill all the jews” isn’t obscene. It doesn’t sound terribly hard for the Supreme Court to redefine protected categories of speech or their contents, but I would assume that, historically, banning hate speech would have criminalized a lot of important people’s speech, period.

Sort of like how Twitter couldn’t figure out how to ban hate speech without blocking a number of Republican politicians. There’s a simple reason for that.

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Acemarilllion  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:18:25am

re: #22 Dave In Austin

“Manned people” sounds like a 2 x commie plot, Donnie Dickweed.

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Chrysicat  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:20:25am
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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:21:22am

re: #79 Dread Pirate Ron

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jeffreyw  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:22:35am

Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:22:58am

I checked Audrey Ann’s FB. She doubles down.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:24:15am

re: #137 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Morning, yes. Good, no.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:27:39am

Deleted - scam site.

UPDATE:
Baked Alaska isn’t quite toast. Arrest warrants have been issued, but he has not been arrested.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:28:41am

re: #140 lawhawk

Edited per removal of a fake tweet.

The wheels of justice grind slow but exceedingly fine. For all that the justice system has been infiltrated by right-wing douchecanoes, there are enough people who will still do their jobs that eventually, they will find you and they will catch you.

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Chrysicat  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:30:54am

OK, it’s probably Twitter to blame for the “click anything in the Tweet aside from the expand wheel, the Tweet page opens IN THIS TAB and then the LGF page is erased from the history” issue.

And of course it clears up and works normally once the tweet is a full expanded tweet.

Doesn’t change the fact that it is damn hard to remember every time you see a tweet that you either need to right-click it, or expand it, to keep from corrupting your session.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:31:27am

re: #142 Chrysicat

OK, it’s probably Twitter to blame for the “click anything in the Tweet aside from the expand wheel, the Tweet page opens IN THIS TAB and then the LGF page is erased from the history” issue.

Doesn’t change the fact that it is damn hard to remember every time you see a tweet that you either need to right-click it, or expand it, to keep from corrupting your session.

Interesting. I don’t see this behavior in Spy mode.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:32:45am

re: #140 lawhawk

Good, he is also in big trouble back in AZ for traveling out of state against his bail agreement. He pepper sprayed a bouncer at a Scottsdale night club. Before that, he nearly got arrested for going into REI without a mask and causing a disturbance. He needs to be put away for a long time.

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John Vreeland  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:32:46am

I do not think that Twitter envisioned their product being capsulated multiple times in a long comment thread.

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b.d. (Be Best!)  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:33:29am

re: #140 lawhawk

Baked Alaska is toast.

Fake Site that is Breaking 9 L L (lower case though)

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ericblair  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:34:56am

re: #141 thedopefishlives

The wheels of justice grind slow but exceedingly fine. For all that the justice system has been infiltrated by right-wing douchecanoes, there are enough people who will still do their jobs that eventually, they will find you and they will catch you.

For reference, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, dealing with the events of 1991, closed up shop in 2017. Not everything in the world operates on Twitter time.

In related matters, Javanka have been stupid and entitled enough not to realize that when you get on the dictator treadmill, getting off means exile, prison, or a suitably long piece of rope.

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John Vreeland  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:38:06am

re: #146 b.d. (We Won!)

Why fake?
And what is up with “Half-Baked” Alaska’s eyebrows? Is he modding them or was he born that way?

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:38:22am

Two convicted felons and an indicted felon

ABC news

Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, and retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn all participated in efforts to promote the Jan. 6 ‘Stop the Steal’ event that ultimately devolved into a riotous and deadly melee at the United States Capitol, leaving five dead and causing Trump to become the only president to be impeached for a second time.”

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:40:12am

re: #146 b.d. (We Won!)

Everyone, please reload my prior comment. I’ve deleted that tweet since b.d. pointed out that it was a scam site.

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b.d. (Be Best!)  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:40:16am

re: #148 John Vreeland

Why fake?
And what is up with “Half-Baked” Alaska’s eyebrows? Is he modding them or was he born that way?

Here is that Twitter account’s only other tweet ever:


It is a fake site
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:41:25am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:41:28am

re: #150 lawhawk

Everyone, please reload my prior comment. I’ve deleted that tweet since b.d. pointed out that it was a scam site.

I also edited my quoted reply; however, my overall point still stands, so I left the post itself.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:44:00am

re: #147 ericblair

I’m sure Ivanka and Jared will be just fine. They’re White, straight multimillionaires. I’ll save my sympathy for those who have lost loved ones to Covid or lost their employment because of pandemic-related shutdowns.

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:44:20am

re: #152 DodgerFan1988

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:44:30am

US retail sales dropped last month, the Commerce Department said Friday, marking the third straight month without any growth.

Retail sales fell 0.7% in December from the month prior. Economists surveyed by Refinitiv expected sales to be flat. The Commerce Department also revised November’s retail sales lower from a 1.1% decline to a 1.4% drop.

America’s economic recovery took a hit in the final months of 2020, and the retail sector hasn’t been spared. Rising Covid-19 infections and renewed lockdown measures, as well as job losses, have weighed on consumer spending and were a drag on retail sales. The economy shed 140,000 jobs in December, the first decline since April.

“The further slump in retail sales in December confirms that the continued surge in coronavirus infections is now weighing heavily on the economy,” Andrew Hunter, senior U.S. economist at Capital Economics, said in a note to clients Friday.

Yet more negative impacts of the GOP dragging their heels for MONTHS on any kind of meaningful economic relief (which if we’re being honest, STILL hasn’t come).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:45:07am

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

I’m sure Ivanka and Jared will be just fine. They’re White, straight multimillionaires. I’ll save my sympathy for those who have lost loved ones to Covid or lost their employment because of pandemic-related shutdowns.

They live in a house with six bathrooms. They can fuck right off for all I care.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:45:32am
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PrairieQueen  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:45:50am

From Ronan Farrow, The New Yorker

Legal records show that, last year, Crowl was arrested in Ohio for driving under the influence, and he has been charged with misdemeanors for violating probation and for domestic violence. During the Obama Administration, the family members and friend recalled, Crowl expressed fury at the President, along with wider animosity toward Black people. “The only good Black person is a dead Black person,” his mother, Teresa Joann Rowe, a retired nurse, recalled Crowl saying—though she stipulated that Crowl used a racial epithet…

“It’s stuff he heard from that psychopath Alex Jones and those echo chambers on the Internet,” his sister Denissa Crowl, who is also a nurse, told me. She said that such radicalization was a familiar phenomenon in Crowl’s rural Ohio community. “That’s like ground zero,” she told me. “I fear him,” she added. “He’s very skilled in firearms. He was an expert sharpshooter.”

A typical “progressive” Trump supporter.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:46:52am

*choke* *cough*

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:47:57am

re: #21 raistuumum

Good!

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:48:01am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

An article about the twentieth-highest state high point in the USA, higher than Denver.

State’s highest point: Visiting Panorama Point near Bushnell (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, with photographs)

(more)

Highest point in sofla is about 70 feet
A grassed over landfill

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:48:08am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:50:04am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:50:11am

re: #163 Belafon

Everyone okay with ignoring every damn thing Trump says for the next five days?

/

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:51:10am

I fuckin’ love this.

The island community — one of the wealthiest in the US — has just 29 residences, and residents include Julio Iglesias, Carl Icahn, Tom Brady and Gisele Bündchen — but owning a home there doesn’t mean you get automatic membership in the country club.

A local source sniped, “You have to be nominated and make a formal application. But it only takes one member to object against any new member, and many members are objecting, particularly after the events at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:51:55am

re: #38 Egregious Philbin

The less than minimum wage thing is a travesty and it’s why I despise Goodwill. Do not donate to those assholes. Donate to Big Brothers Big Sisters.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:51:56am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Tomorrow is National Religious Freedom Day, originally adopted to commemorate the landmark adoption of Thomas Jefferson’s “Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom,” the basis for the later I Amendment Free Exercise clause.

It is annually proclaimed by the President.

In recent decades, Christians have hijacked the date to proclaim “our religion” and to declare days of (Christian) prayer against abortion, such as my governor has done this year.

Do we fast?

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:52:12am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

Everyone okay with ignoring every damn thing Trump says for the next five days?

/

LOL, that is one of the most conditional requests I will ever see in my lifetime.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:52:48am

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

US retail sales dropped last month, the Commerce Department said Friday, marking the third straight month without any growth.

Retail sales fell 0.7% in December from the month prior. Economists surveyed by Refinitiv expected sales to be flat. The Commerce Department also revised November’s retail sales lower from a 1.1% decline to a 1.4% drop.

America’s economic recovery took a hit in the final months of 2020, and the retail sector hasn’t been spared. Rising Covid-19 infections and renewed lockdown measures, as well as job losses, have weighed on consumer spending and were a drag on retail sales. The economy shed 140,000 jobs in December, the first decline since April.

“The further slump in retail sales in December confirms that the continued surge in coronavirus infections is now weighing heavily on the economy,” Andrew Hunter, senior U.S. economist at Capital Economics, said in a note to clients Friday.

Yet more negative impacts of the GOP dragging their heels for MONTHS on any kind meaningful relief (which if we’re being honest, STILL hasn’t come).

All the GOP footdragging on relief has consequences. CARES Act funding ran dry, and the consequences was losing jobs (and nearly all those who did lose jobs were women). This was avoidable had the GOP allowed action on relief sooner. They obstructed and blocked relief for months, knowing what would happen.

Trump wrecked the economy, but GOP cares only if the stock markets went up. That’s their only consideration. The stock market has completely divorced itself from Main Street and reality for that matter. The economy is hollowed out in so many ways - precisely because the pandemic has wrecked things and the GOP has refused to take even basic public health measures to try and get things reopened safely. They don’t care that 400,000+ are dead from their malfeasance. They don’t care if 400,000+ more die.

They don’t care. They never did. They’re too busy watching wealth redistribution to millionaires like Trump and the burdens fall to everyone else.

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:54:29am

re: #53 Dread Pirate Ron

Maybe they could name a sewage plant after him.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:57:13am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the 1890’s it was referred to as “horse and sparrow” economics (same system, different century).

As promoted then, you feed the horse (the rich) oats, and some of them would pass out with the horse apples so that the sparrows (the poor) could pick out remains.

This was a serious Republican argument, which also tells you what they think about poor people.

If you want nice fresh oats, there’s a market price
If your willing to wait till they’ve been processed by a horse, they’re a little cheaper

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:57:24am
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PrairieQueen  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:57:45am

re: #166 darthstar

I fuckin’ love this.

PageSix is on par with the Enquirer, but if they already purchased a $30 million building site there, they’ll just turn around and sell it to another wealthy person.

I get people being rich, what I can’t stomach is how Javanka stole so much goddamned money and profited from the Trump grift. That’s what I’d like to see dissected and taken away. They flat don’t deserve to profit from crime.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 6:59:48am

re: #114 thedopefishlives

Not to mention that if they allow a hearing on it, then it will become a fact in wingnut circles, like so: IF THERE WASN’T ANYTHING THERE THEN WHY WOULD CONGRESS HOLD HEARINGS ON IT HUH?!?!?!? We saw the same thing with the eleventy-billion Benghazi hearings; constantly about how it was being investigated, literally zero about the outcome of those investigations.

I have said it time and again and wrote an article thats in the archives, do not legitimize crackpots.

A seat at the table does that.
Its what they want.

Qanon is in the fucking congress!!!!

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b.d. (Be Best!)  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:02:06am
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sagehen  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:02:23am
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lizardofid  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:02:55am

re: #172 Dangerman

If you want nice fresh oats, there’s a market price
If your willing to wait till they’ve been processed by a horse, they’re a little cheaper

Explanation of the value of quality. ; )

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:09:41am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:09:43am

re: #171 plansbandc

Maybe they could name a sewage plant after him.

The Outer Trump Shit Post?

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:09:58am

re: #159 PrairieQueen

From Ronan Farrow, The New Yorker

A typical “progressive” Trump supporter.

“It’s stuff he heard from that psychopath Alex Jones and those echo chambers on the Internet,” his sister Denissa Crowl, who is also a nurse, told me.

Mentioned it before, but this is the less violent version of what happened to my ‘independent voting’ friend when he discovered Rush Limbaugh 30-odd years ago. At age 20, no less.

I still, to this day, cannot wrap my head around being 20 and deciding you want to live the rest of your life with Archie Bunker as your role model. It was the 80s, so being smack dab in the Reagan years didn’t help.

Started out as laughing at the jolly fat man on the radio making fun of hippies. 22 years later, he’s in a car with his then 5 year old son, dropping the phrase “jungle bunny” because whatever yapping chancre sore on right wing Philly talk radio is complaining about political correctness.

The weird thing is he insists that he stopped listening to Limbaugh years ago, borderline denying he ever did it. Still listens to the conservative talk station, though. He’s a huge fan of Michael Smerconish. I think he latched on to Smerconish when he made the transition to ‘independent’ in Obama’ terms, although I guarantee that unlike Smerconish, my bud never voted for Obama.

The Limbaugh denial thing is odd, too. This guy used to be crazy for Blue Oyster Cult and the NBA, and now looks at you funny when you bring it up. He used to take a personal day to watch the NBA draft. Now? He either pretends these things never happened or that it was something he was into for like a few days and then moved on.

Getting married and having kids affects people in strange ways sometimes, I guess.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:13:38am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

They live in a house with six bathrooms****. They can fuck right off for all I care.

****that they don’t clean themselves

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:14:57am

He wants to stage a coup…on live TV.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:15:33am

re: #177 sagehen

This fucking country, man.

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:15:59am

re: #182 Dangerman

****that they don’t clean themselves

I read this as “they don’t clean themselves” and I wouldn’t be surprised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:16:34am

re: #183 darthstar

He wants to stage a coup…on live TV.

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This was my worry. He wants to do some kind of party/rally/gathering to try and upstage Bidens Inauguration on 1/20.

Hopefully the people that would have to organize that mess will leave him twisting in the wind.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:17:32am

re: #170 lawhawk

……The economy is hollowed out in so many ways - precisely because the pandemic has wrecked things and the GOP has refused to take even basic public health measures to try and get things reopened safely. They don’t care that 400,000+ are dead from their malfeasance. They don’t care if 400,000+ more die.

They don’t care. They never did. They’re too busy watching wealth redistribution to millionaires like Trump and the burdens fall to everyone else.

The reason most of them don’t care is because they aren’t losing loved ones: they and their family can protect themselves by working from home and limiting exposure to others. Essential workers are slaves to them, who must sacrifice their lives to preserve the comfort of the wealthy.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:17:49am

Sucks to be a trump

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:18:49am

re: #166 darthstar

I fuckin’ love this.

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“We don’t play golf anyway. That’s just daddy”

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:19:21am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

This was my worry. He wants to do some kind of party/rally/gathering to try and upstage Bidens Inauguration on 1/20.

Hopefully the people that would have to organize that mess will leave him twisting in the wind.

They can slow-walk him. The podium will be available at 10:26. PM.

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:19:43am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

This was my worry. He wants to do some kind of party/rally/gathering to try and upstage Bidens Inauguration on 1/20.

Hopefully the people that would have to organize that mess will leave him twisting in the wind.

It’s not like he can repurpose the Inauguration set up for his own fest. DC is in lockdown for the inauguration, so saying he wants a ‘big party’ with 4 days to prepare isn’t very likely. He’s just butt-hurt because when he looks out the window now he sees “BIDEN-HARRIS INAUGURATION” banners everywhere.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:20:36am
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ericblair  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:20:50am

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

I’m sure Ivanka and Jared will be just fine. They’re White, straight multimillionaires. I’ll save my sympathy for those who have lost loved ones to Covid or lost their employment because of pandemic-related shutdowns.

The DC and State AGs are making a beeline for the inauguration funding. That’s the kids’ grift. I don’t think they’ll be just fine this time.

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sagehen  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:21:35am
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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:23:38am

The GOP treasonweasels are hoping everyone overlooks the fact that the insurrectionists nearly assassinated both VP Pence and Speaker Pelosi - a decapitation strike against the line of succession.

Fuck the GOP; they’re still refusing to hold a trial against Trump in the Senate before January 20. Why would they refuse? Because even now they’re covering for Trump and their fellow armed insurrectionist GOPers who backed this failed coup.

That’s why. There’s no other plausible explanation. They could hold a trial starting today if they wanted, and they could hold a vote to remove too. There’s already enough evidence to warrant it. McConnell is simply passing the buck and trying to cover for other GOPers so that they don’t have to cast a ballot against one of their own treasonweasels.

Fuck all this. They are willing to cover up crimes once again, including an armed insurrection and failed coup. That’s what every GOPer must be held to account for. Democrats must be highlighting this every step of the way. The way to get unity in the nation isn’t to sweep this under the rug. It’s to prosecute these fuckers who destroyed the social compact and wanted to overthrow the government. You don’t seek unity with these people. You throw them in prison for sedition and attempting to overthrowing the govt. There’s no negotiating with them. There’s no compromise with people this broken and corrupt and criminal.

Democrats need to start treating GOPers no differently than the Confederate treasonweasels/insurrectionists in the Civil War.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:24:18am

re: #183 darthstar

He wants to stage a coup…on live TV.

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If he refuses to leave he’ll get a big crowd cheering as he’s dragged out.

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PrairieQueen  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:25:11am

re: #181 Mattand

The Limbaugh denial thing is odd, too. This guy used to be crazy for Blue Oyster Cult and the NBA, and now looks at you funny when you bring it up. He used to take a personal day to watch the NBA draft. Now? He either pretends these things never happened or that it was something he was into for like a few days and then moved on.

Getting married and having kids affects people in strange ways sometimes, I guess.

They pat themselves on the back for being so well informed by conservative crackpots, but can’t admit they worship the wingnut pieces of shit they admire unless they’re in a comfortable situation, like a herd of like-minded wingnuts.

Trust, he’s telling n*gger jokes when you’re not around. I don’t know one of these assholes that doesn’t like to get really down dirty and racist when they think they’re safe from criticism, and then it’s all about poor white folk and their burdens, and the daily assault on White America forced on them by the Libs. Bank on it.

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ericblair  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:25:37am

re: #179 darthstar

From the CNN article:

They also said Chansley suffers from mental illness and is a regular drug user, according to prosecutors’ detention memo.

So, uh, this is the “poor baby let him off the hook” mental illness/drug abuse, and not the “he’s no angel” mental illness/drug abuse, I guess?

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PrairieQueen  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:30:01am

re: #198 ericblair

From the CNN article:

So, uh, this is the “poor baby let him off the hook” mental illness/drug abuse, and not the “he’s no angel” mental illness/drug abuse, I guess?

I feel for people who can’t get past substance abuse. That’s no excuse for cruelty and being an all around piece of shit through and through. He was never so disabled from his addiction that he missed a day plotting insurrection with his buddies, or probably a day at the gun range. Fuck him.

My empathy for substance abusers ends 100% when they hurt other people.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:30:44am

re: #192 (((Archangel1)))

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A Parliament of owls

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:30:58am

Johnson & Johnson’s single dose Covid vaccine is looking promising in trials. Apparently they’ve been pretty confident about its approval and have been in production for some time. 100 million doses in 100 days may not be a moon shot after all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:32:46am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Tomorrow is National Religious Freedom Day, originally adopted to commemorate the landmark adoption of Thomas Jefferson’s “Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom,” the basis for the later I Amendment Free Exercise clause.

It is annually proclaimed by the President.

In recent decades, Christians have hijacked the date to proclaim “our religion” and to declare days of (Christian) prayer against abortion, such as my governor has done this year.

We were taught in grade school that the Pilgrims came to America to seek “religious freedom” when the reason they came was because the rest of Europe could not put up with their intolerance.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:32:58am

re: #200 Dangerman

Funky.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:33:53am

re: #195 lawhawk

They almost killed Pence. They came THAT CLOSE. And Pence doesn’t give a shit, he’ll support Trump and his mob until he dies, alone and bitter.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:34:13am

re: #195 lawhawk

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The GOP treasonweasels are hoping everyone overlooks the fact that the insurrectionists nearly assassinated both VP Pence and Speaker Pelosi - a decapitation strike against the line of succession.

Fuck the GOP; they’re still refusing to hold a trial against Trump in the Senate before January 20. Why would they refuse? Because even now they’re covering for Trump and their fellow armed insurrectionist GOPers who backed this failed coup.

That’s why. There’s no other plausible explanation. They could hold a trial starting today if they wanted, and they could hold a vote to remove too. There’s already enough evidence to warrant it. McConnell is simply passing the buck and trying to cover for other GOPers so that they don’t have to cast a ballot against one of their own treasonweasels.

Fuck all this. They are willing to cover up crimes once again, including an armed insurrection and failed coup. That’s what every GOPer must be held to account for. Democrats must be highlighting this every step of the way. The way to get unity in the nation isn’t to sweep this under the rug. It’s to prosecute these fuckers who destroyed the social compact and wanted to overthrow the government. You don’t seek unity with these people. You throw them in prison for sedition and attempting to overthrowing the govt. There’s no negotiating with them. There’s no compromise with people this broken and corrupt and criminal.

Democrats need to start treating GOPers no differently than the Confederate treasonweasels/insurrectionists in the Civil War.

There is absolute no bottom for these people.

Shooting someone on fifth avenue wasn’t nearly predictive Or outrageous enough of what they’d let him get away with

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:34:14am

re: #201 darthstar

100 million doses in 100 days gets you to 30% of US population. That’s not great. It’s actually where you would hope to be in a smooth rollout. It’s essentially 1 million doses distributed and jabbed per day.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:35:27am

re: #193 ericblair

Hmmm. We will have to wait and see because I’m not overly optimistic that any of the Trumps will face justice. Would love to be proven wrong.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:37:15am

re: #204 thedopefishlives

They almost killed Pence. They came THAT CLOSE. And Pence doesn’t give a shit, he’ll support Trump and his mob until he dies, alone and bitter.

…and not president

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:38:25am

Joe McCarthy, 1950, : “I have a list of 205 names known to be members of the Communist Party…”

Rudy Giuliani, 2021: “I have a list of 226 names of known Antifa members…”

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:39:42am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Joe McCarthy, 1950, : “I have a list of 205 names known to be members of the Communist Party…”

Rudy Giuliani, 2021: “I have a list of 226 names of known Antifa members…”

Except we don’t need to ask the question; we already know Rudy has no dignity. We saw him with his hand down his pants, FFS.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:39:57am

re: #206 lawhawk

100 million doses in 100 days gets you to 30% of US population. That’s not great. It’s actually where you would hope to be in a smooth rollout. It’s essentially 1 million doses distributed and jabbed per day.

Tbf he’s starting on the one yard line saddled with an acme anvil on his back (rs in congress)

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:43:03am

re: #206 lawhawk

100 million doses in 100 days gets you to 30% of US population. That’s not great. It’s actually where you would hope to be in a smooth rollout. It’s essentially 1 million doses distributed and jabbed per day.

I suspect as distribution develops we’ll actually exceed that mark, so we could be looking at 120-130 million by the end of April, and if we could ramp up further by using National Guard for distribution, knock out another 120M by the end of June.

But remember, these companies need to produce enough vaccine for billions of people…so this is gonna take some time.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:43:31am

re: #206 lawhawk

100 million doses in 100 days gets you to 30% of US population. That’s not great. It’s actually where you would hope to be in a smooth rollout. It’s essentially 1 million doses distributed and jabbed per day.

That’s where we would hope to be. Where would we actually be even if Trump had cared? No plan survives when it meets the enemy, which in this case is just reality.

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lizardofid  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:44:16am

re: #206 lawhawk

100 million doses in 100 days gets you to 30% of US population. That’s not great. It’s actually where you would hope to be in a smooth rollout. It’s essentially 1 million doses distributed and jabbed per day.

To ever hope to get it done, it’s going to require more than increased production too. There are huge bottlenecks at state and local levels.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:45:07am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Joe McCarthy, 1950, : “I have a list of 205 names known to be members of the Communist Party…”

Rudy Giuliani, 2021: “I have a list of 226 names of known Antifa members…”

DOJ: we have 100s of arrests and charge sheets against Trump’s treasonweasels, and more to follow.

*checking notes* Rudy is in legal jeopardy across multiple jurisdictions and for multiple crimes to say nothing of facing likely disbarment.

Rudy really needs to get himself a better lawyer than his client did.

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calochortus  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:45:45am

re: #182 Dangerman

****that they don’t clean themselves

I think anyone with more than perhaps 3 bathrooms should be legally required to clean them themselves. Then they can have as many as they like.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:47:37am

Does the J&J vaccine require two shots?

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sagehen  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:50:06am

re: #179 darthstar

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“He loved Trump, every word. He listened to him. He felt like he was answering the call of our president,” Chansley’s attorney Al Watkins, appearing on CNN Thursday night, said. ” My client wasn’t violent. He didn’t cross over any police lines. He didn’t assault anyone.” Watkins said Chansley also hopes for a presidential pardon.

Prosecutors describe those who took over the Capitol as “insurrectionists” and offer new details about Chansley’s role in the violent siege last week, including that after standing at the dais where Vice President Mike Pence had stood that morning, Chansley wrote a note saying “it’s only a matter of time, justice is coming.”
Chansley later told the FBI he did not mean the note as a threat but said the Vice President was a “child-trafficking traitor” and went on a long diatribe about Pence, Biden and other politicians as traitors.

Before he was arrested, Chansley told the FBI he wanted to return to Washington for the inauguration to protest.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:50:55am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

Does the J&J vaccine require two shots?

Nope.

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PrairieQueen  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:52:41am

re: #218 sagehen

Asshole needs some refined sugar to get his mind right. Eat a goddamned donut and chill, MF.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:54:47am

re: #168 Dangerman

Do we fast?

Hell no.

Gonna order the famous #19 sandwich from Langer’s Deli

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darthstar  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:54:56am

re: #214 lizardofid

To ever hope to get it done, it’s going to require more than increased production too. There are huge bottlenecks at state and local levels.

Watch for ballparks to be used as vaccination centers in larger metropolitan areas. Incentivize companies to give employees paid time off (even hourly) for getting vaccinated. Expect companies to provide in office vaccination (I got a flu shot at one company when the CEO had a nurse come in and jab everyone in a single day). Send vaccination vans into rural areas…vaccinate schools of children (and their parents) at the same time. There are ways to get around bottlenecks if we’re willing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:57:05am

So right now, the German state I live in, Rhineland-Palatinate, is prioritizing elderly people over 80 for vaccination appointments.

I will have to wait a while until they get down to the 60+ crowd…

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:57:09am

re: #221 🌹UOJB!

Hell no.

Gonna order the famous #19 sandwich from Langer’s Deli

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That looks… absolutely delicious!

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Dr. Matt  Jan 15, 2021 • 7:59:29am

Interesting interview with Dr. Brian May about his politics and viewpoints

Personality Politics: Queen guitarist Brian May

He discussed how his views have evolved over time. Today he is an environmental and animal activist. He thinks Brexit was stupid. He’s such a wholesome person. Humankind needs more Dr. Mays.

Personality Politics: Queen guitarist Brian May

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:02:06am

re: #224 lawhawk

That looks… absolutely delicious!

The #19 on Langer’s Twice Baked Rye melts in your mouth BUT put it on an onion roll and it goes into another dimension of decadence…

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Jay C  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:03:52am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Joe McCarthy, 1950, : “I have a list of 205 names known to be members of the Communist Party…”

Rudy Giuliani, 2021: “I have a list of 226 names of known Antifa members…”

About the only difference is that McCarthy went public bullshitting about “lists of names” before he had shot his public credibility, unlike Rudy…

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:09:09am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

They live in a house with six bathrooms. They can fuck right off for all I care.

They live in a house with six bathrooms that the people who protect their lives are not allowed to use. The USSS had to schlep on over the Obama’s house when they needed to piss.

“Ding Dong”.

“Oh, hello Tom, nice to see you again”.

“Hello Mr President Obama, may I use your bathroom”?

“Of course”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:11:14am

re: #228 John Hughes

Exactly. No sympathy for the devils.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:12:08am

re: #228 John Hughes

I wouldn’t be surprised if Barrack and Michelle offered the Secret Service agents lunch as well…and the agents dropped lots of juicy gossip about Javanka…

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:12:17am

re: #227 Jay C

I’ve been watching a bunch of Broadway musicals and movie adaptations lately, and a couple of Zero Mostel movies made that list: Producers and A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum.

Mostel was blacklisted by Hollywood after Jerome Robbins named names. That meant that Mostel was blacklisted during the prime of his career and went to Broadway to ply his craft. But when it came time to turn Forum into a movie, Robbins was asked to step in to direct after the first director ran into problems on set, and Mostel was asked if he’s okay with that.

He was.

First day on the set, Robbins went around introducing himself, and Mostel boomed out - Hey Loose Lips! Everyone laughed, including Robbins and the production went on without a hitch.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:14:30am

I wonder what happened in 1980 to make the debt/GDP ratio go up, dumbass?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:15:17am
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lizardofid  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:16:36am

re: #222 darthstar

Watch for ballparks to be used as vaccination centers in larger metropolitan areas. Incentivize companies to give employees paid time off (even hourly) for getting vaccinated. Expect companies to provide in office vaccination (I got a flu shot at one company when the CEO had a nurse come in and jab everyone in a single day). Send vaccination vans into rural areas…vaccinate schools of children (and their parents) at the same time. There are ways to get around bottlenecks if we’re willing.

No doubt. I guess my disappointment/concern lies in the fact that these many months in those plans have yet to be articulated , in advance of the availability of the doses. Locally, registration and administration (for front line workers and the most vulnerable) has been disorganized.

One thing I feel is sorely needed is a universal registration data base program, that could have been provided to the states, to be shared with, and administrate by. their local governing bodies, counties for instance. This data base could then be sorted for prioritization by age, zip codes for hot zones, ect for appointments. A plan would prevent a lot of the chaos for the most vulnerable.

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garzooma  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:17:34am

re: #119 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No, merely lying is protected by the first amendment. This is important, because if people could be prosecuted for “lying”, authoritarian governments would abuse that power by prosecuting people who tell the truth.

Although the first amendment doesn’t protect you from being sued for libel, which the Kraken lady is finding out.

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:18:16am

re: #197 PrairieQueen

They pat themselves on the back for being so well informed by conservative crackpots, but can’t admit they worship the wingnut pieces of shit they admire unless they’re in a comfortable situation, like a herd of like-minded wingnuts.

Trust, he’s telling n*gger jokes when you’re not around. I don’t know one of these assholes that doesn’t like to get really down dirty and racist when they think they’re safe from criticism, and then it’s all about poor white folk and their burdens, and the daily assault on White America forced on them by the Libs. Bank on it.

Never say never, but that’s the closest I’ve ever heard this guy use a racial slur. Like you said, all bets were off when I wasn’t around, but my experience with this guy is that he would only drop the n-bomb, or something similar, if he felt he could provoke someone like me into an “own the lib” situation.

I’ve known the guy for (God, I’m old) 36 years now, part of a group I met when I was 18. I’ve got a pretty good idea of who’s the unapologetic racist in the group (spoiler alert: the one who eventually got a federal job with a gun and badge.)

I just worry about what his son is like. The kid is 20 now. The last time I was around his son, he was offering critiques about Jean Grey from the X-Men movies that were, shall we say, a little problematic for a 13 year old. From what his mom has said, it’s only gotten worse.

Turns out they were letting the son watch YouTube channels where guys were critiquing movies and dropping F-bombs left and right. I think that revelation right there really clued me in on the unique set of challenges people face raising kids in the social media era.

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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:19:16am

re: #137 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:20:33am

re: #225 Dr. Matt

Interesting interview with Dr. Brian May about his politics and viewpoints

Personality Politics: Queen guitarist Brian May

He discussed how his views have evolved over time. Today he is an environmental and animal activist. He thinks Brexit was stupid. He’s such a wholesome person. Humankind needs more Dr. Mays.

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no one questions whether he should be called ‘doctor’. //

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:20:48am
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Mattand  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:21:02am

re: #230 🌹UOJB!

I wouldn’t be surprised if Barrack and Michelle offered the Secret Service agents lunch as well…and the agents dropped lots of juicy gossip about Javanka…

Much as I dislike Reagan, from what I’ve read, he treated the Secret Service guys with the utmost respect. I think Nixon and Clinton treated them like hired help.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:21:22am

re: #232 BlueSpotinAL

I wonder what happened in 1980 to make the debt/GDP ratio go up, dumbass?

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He should also list the debt at the beginning of 2017.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:21:30am

re: #238 Dangerman

no one questions whether he should be called ‘doctor’. //

Let’s review his dissertation for typos!!!!!

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:21:37am

re: #232 BlueSpotinAL

On cue the “fiscal responsibility” conservatives recognize debt is unsustainable after yet another massive tax redistribution scheme that delivers trillions in wealth to the millionaire class and wrecks everyone else leaving them with the debts.

They only care about debt when a Democrat’s in the White House.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:21:41am
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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:23:23am

re: #222 darthstar

Watch for ballparks to be used as vaccination centers in larger metropolitan areas. Incentivize companies to give employees paid time off (even hourly) for getting vaccinated. Expect companies to provide in office vaccination (I got a flu shot at one company when the CEO had a nurse come in and jab everyone in a single day). Send vaccination vans into rural areas…vaccinate schools of children (and their parents) at the same time. There are ways to get around bottlenecks if we’re willing.

Dallas county has already sent out an email to any emergency response group in the area, such as CERT, to see if people can volunteer to work at the new Texas Rangers stadium to help with vaccine administration.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:23:54am

re: #234 lizardofid

No doubt. I guess my disappointment/concern lies in the fact that these many months in those plans have yet to be articulated , in advance of the availability of the doses. Locally, registration and administration (for front line workers and the most vulnerable) has been disorganized.

One thing I feel is sorely needed is a universal registration data base program, that could have been provided to the states, to be shared with, and administrate by. their local governing bodies, counties for instance. This data base could then be sorted for prioritization by age, zip codes for hot zones, ect for appointments. A plan would prevent a lot of the chaos for the most vulnerable.

trump et al squandered a year
on the prevention - 400k dead - (masks, distancing, hand washing)
and on the preparation for vaccination

that’s why i said joe’s starting on the 1 yard line with an acme anvil on is back

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:24:51am

re: #232 BlueSpotinAL

we need a plan for the debt. soon. Unsustainable

And if that plan is to reduce spending to pay off the debt you know what will happen? You’ll shrink the GDP and so increase the ratio of debt:GDP.

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Thanos  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:26:06am

Off to get my blood test to check hemoglobin levels, but here’s something to think on, latest polls show Trump falling like a rock, which makes me wonder how many of his voters have had a Post Insurrection Pinkman moment?

BreakingBad: Im the bad guy.

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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:26:31am

re: #149 Dangerman

Two convicted felons and an indicted felon

ABC news

Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, and retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn all participated in efforts to promote the Jan. 6 ‘Stop the Steal’ event that ultimately devolved into a riotous and deadly melee at the United States Capitol, leaving five dead and causing Trump to become the only president to be impeached for a second time.”

And they haven’t been pardoned for any of that. And I haven’t heard of any new pardons from sulky Donnie. He has five more days… somebody keep him sulking, please!

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:26:42am

re: #243 lawhawk

On cue the “fiscal responsibility” conservatives recognize debt is unsustainable after yet another massive tax redistribution scheme that delivers trillions in wealth to the millionaire class and wrecks everyone else leaving them with the debts.

They only care about debt when a Democrat’s in the White House.

‘so you guys are on board and will vote to repeal trumps tax cut, right?’

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:26:44am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

This was my worry. He wants to do some kind of party/rally/gathering to try and upstage Bidens Inauguration on 1/20.

I don’t see that as a problem, unless there is lack of security at the inauguration. Let the shit go out on yet another note showing him unworthy. A quiet ceremony for Biden, the country moves forward, the clown’s hubris will be forgotten.

YMMV.

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Teukka  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:29:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:35:11am

re: #227 Jay C

About the only difference is that McCarthy went public bullshitting about “lists of names” before he had shot his public credibility, unlike Rudy…

McCarthy actually believed in his cause, Giuliani is a mere opportunist.

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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:44:14am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

This was my worry. He wants to do some kind of party/rally/gathering to try and upstage Bidens Inauguration on 1/20.

Hopefully the people that would have to organize that mess will leave him twisting in the wind.

Something like that would take more than five days to plan. He’ll have to settle for a gaggle of police serving warrants on him.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:46:33am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:48:26am

re: #255 The Pie Overlord!

Rome 2018, before the pandemic, back when things were simpler and my personal life wasn’t so utterly fucked up, when it was expected that we would sleep until 11:00 PM and stay up until 2:00 AM.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:48:35am

You must repeat one trip. Same cities, same experiences, same people. Where are you going?

The island of Salina, off the north coast of Sicily, in September 2015 with a side outing to Stromboli to watch the volcano erupt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:50:19am

re: #256 thedopefishlives

Rome 2019, before the pandemic, back when things were simpler and my personal life wasn’t so utterly fucked up, when it was expected that we would sleep until 11:00 PM and stay up until 2:00 AM.

I read a study that most people if left to their own devices would keep a similar schedule, I also prefer to go to bed around 2am and sleep until about 10.30…

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mmmirele  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:50:29am

My idiot congressman, Andy Biggs, had a lawyer send a letter to his Dem opponent Joan Greene saying she needed to take down a tweet or he would sue her for defamation.

google.com

Her attorney sent Biggs’ attorney a response quoting Gen. Anthony McAuliffe’s famius letter to the Germans: “NUTS!”

Andy graduated from ASU law but you’d never know it. He’s a quintessential public figure.

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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:50:53am

re: #195 lawhawk

Democrats need to start treating GOPers no differently than the Confederate treasonweasels/insurrectionists in the Civil War.

Oh, very differently. The Civil War crew were pardoned and allowed to rebuild the Jim Crow south.

Never again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:51:35am

re: #260 A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!

Democrats need to start treating GOPers no differently than the Confederate treasonweasels/insurrectionists in the Civil War.

Oh, very differently. The Civil War crew were pardoned and allowed to rebuild the Jim Crow south.

Never again.

In a sense, that is where all of of our current mess got started…

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:54:16am

Gen. Honore is the person tapped by President Bush to lead the reconstruction/building of new flood control systems around NOLA after Katrina.

He’s explicitly calling out leadership of Capitol Police for complicity in the armed insurrection and failed coup. Their slow response, failure to have plans in place despite knowing of the planned protests on January 6 show that they didn’t take any of it seriously (negligent) or were actively minimizing the response (complicit).

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HypnoToad  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:55:09am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You must repeat one trip. Same cities, same experiences, same people. Where are you going?

Total eclipse on Easter Island, July 2010. The trip of several lifetimes!

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:58:25am
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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:59:15am

re: #234 lizardofid

No doubt. I guess my disappointment/concern lies in the fact that these many months in those plans have yet to be articulated , in advance of the availability of the doses. Locally, registration and administration (for front line workers and the most vulnerable) has been disorganized.

One thing I feel is sorely needed is a universal registration data base program, that could have been provided to the states, to be shared with, and administrate by. their local governing bodies, counties for instance. This data base could then be sorted for prioritization by age, zip codes for hot zones, ect for appointments. A plan would prevent a lot of the chaos for the most vulnerable.

That’s what happens when someone like DT is in the white house. But I agree.

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Teukka  Jan 15, 2021 • 8:59:36am

Pun-ishments will continue until morale improves 😉

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Dr. Matt  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:01:13am

re: #262 lawhawk

General Honore is a freaking badass. Great leader. He was the general that was yelling and law enforcement to put their weapons down as they were patrolling NOLA after Katrina yet

Put those damn weapons down. I’m not going to tell you again, goddamn it. Get those goddamn weapons down.” That was the first command of one of Louisiana’s most revered figures, General Russell Honore, when he arrived in New Orleans in 2005 to direct the military recovery after Hurricane Katrina. The General’s directions have not been followed in Baton Rouge.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:02:28am

re: #249 A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!

And they haven’t been pardoned for any of that. And I haven’t heard of any new pardons from sulky Donnie. He has five more days… somebody keep him sulking, please!

Trump knows he can’t pardon himself. I doubt he’d put anyone above him even Ivanka.

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:02:47am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Everybody who entered the Capitol illegally, with the exception of journalists documenting the events, must be arrested and given a criminal record. Everyone who participated in violent attacks must be convicted of felonies and do time. Everyone who plotted sedition needs to be charged with felony murder and given life sentences, including Trump. If we don’t break the back of fascism now, there will be a civil war in this country.

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HypnoToad  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:03:32am

Tongariki from Rano Raraku July 2010

Third Contact (End of totality) Cloud free up to this moment!
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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:06:57am

re: #255 The Pie Overlord!

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Trip to London, where I stayed in South Kensington in a hotel that used to be a mansion in the royal family (Earl of Strathmore). gemhotels.com

Went to the 1995 Great British Beer festival, got a bit woozy, late to meet family at British museum. Ate at multiple pubs. Also saw Mousetrap at St. Martin’s theater. Tower of London tour, ate at KFC near the tower of London which had KFC gravy on chips. Took wrong double decker bus, it was longer trip than going to Hogwarts.

Also attended a scientific conference from US, to be served Rolling Rock at the opening reception. WTH!

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:07:07am

re: #264 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m fine with them hanging with the Proud Boys knowing that that terror group will start getting rolled up as a group and face criminal prosecution.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:08:05am

re: #271 BlueSpotinAL

London is the next trip we want to take, as soon as the pandemic eases enough for international travel to be safe(ish) again.

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Interesting Times  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:08:42am

re: #260 A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!

Oh, very differently. The Civil War crew were pardoned and allowed to rebuild the Jim Crow south.

Never again.

You know what would be well and truly ironic? If all the trump-humpers see the Insurrection Act invoked…by Biden (who, unlike their Cheeto Jesus, would actually be justified in doing so)

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stpaulbear  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:09:25am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

This was my worry. He wants to do some kind of party/rally/gathering to try and upstage Bidens Inauguration on 1/20.

Hopefully the people that would have to organize that mess will leave him twisting in the wind.

I remember the happy crowds singing the ‘hey hey hey goodbye’ song as GWB’s helicopter flew away from the White House. The happy crowds will be nowhere in sight due to security issues in DC. Trump’s goodbye is more likely to be one of the confused insurrectionists taking a shot at the helicopter as it flies overhead thinking it’s the deep state national guard.

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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:09:26am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

An article about the twentieth-highest state high point in the USA, higher than Denver.

State’s highest point: Visiting Panorama Point near Bushnell (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, with photographs)

(more)

Anymouse, thank you for this link. It was interesting, but what really got me was the link to a link that led to a blog by a cowman, fascinated by the short grass prairie. First post I hit got my attention, and I’ve added it to my Follows.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:09:27am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:10:42am

The next trip we want to take,

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:13:21am

re: #263 HypnoToad

Quick day trip to Riems for the 1999 total eclipse.

I’d bought a train ticket a few days before but when I got to the station I discovered that the SNCF had gone into full disaster mode — every train leaving Paris was going to the zone of totality, no tickets were being checked, all trains were packed full, people standing in all the corridors.

Got to Reims, got a seat outside a café in time for the eclipse, it was wonderful.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:14:28am

lolz

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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:14:42am

re: #270 HypnoToad

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January 2020. Hasn’t changed much. (Gorgeous eclipse picture.)

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:14:53am

re: #234 lizardofid

The Pit (bball arena) is our newest vaccination site.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:15:01am
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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:15:19am

And if the fascists want to take over state capitols this weekend? Everyone who works in them stay home, leave the doors unlocked, let the fascists enter, then surround the buildings, seal them off, and arrest every single damn one of them and charge them with sedition when they surrender.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:15:59am

re: #195 lawhawk

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The GOP treasonweasels are hoping everyone overlooks the fact that the insurrectionists nearly assassinated both VP Pence and Speaker Pelosi - a decapitation strike against the line of succession.

Here’s a thought experiment:

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:16:40am

re: #284 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And if the fascists want to take over state capitols this weekend? Everyone who works in them stay home, leave the doors unlocked, let the fascists enter, then surround the buildings, seal them off, and arrest every single damn one of them and charge them with sedition when they surrender.

Minnesota already has one captured seditionist flag on display. I’m sure we wouldn’t mind adding a few more.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:18:23am

re: #255 The Pie Overlord!

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1993-1994
a year and 25k miles motorcycling around america

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Dr. Matt  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:18:56am

re: #283 jaunte

Great account!

—> Bench warrant issued for “Baked Alaska”.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:19:01am
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A hollow voice says Plugh (says it all)  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:20:12am

re: #255 The Pie Overlord!

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I can’t decide!

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:20:41am

re: #255 The Pie Overlord!

San Francisco, 1980. Honorable mention: Mazatlán, 1982.

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ericblair  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:23:04am

re: #284 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And if the fascists want to take over state capitols this weekend? Everyone who works in them stay home, leave the doors unlocked, let the fascists enter, then surround the buildings, seal them off, and arrest every single damn one of them and charge them with sedition when they surrender.

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:23:09am

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Jay C  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:24:20am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

McCarthy actually believed in his cause, Giuliani is a mere opportunist.

Did he really?
While Tailgunner Joe certainly jumped on the Red-baiting bandwagon to boost his career, his actual efforts to “uncover Communists in government” were, at best, inconsistent and inefficient (I think it was a fellow Senator who famously remarked that “Joe McCarthy couldn’t find a communist in Red Square”); and always, first to last, engineered mainly to create the appearance of bold, incisive action, and to derive the maximum exposure and PR.
Of course, what he had mostly was fear, smear, innuendo and conspiracy-theory-style “connections” (sort of the proto-Q) to bolster his red-hunting creds: I’d say he “believed” in his cause enough to outweigh pure cynicism as a factor in his relentless self-promotion - but just barely.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:25:53am

re: #284 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And if the fascists want to take over state capitols this weekend? Everyone who works in them stay home, leave the doors unlocked, let the fascists enter, then surround the buildings, seal them off, and arrest every single damn one of them and charge them with sedition when they surrender.

I am concerned that people are going to get shot and even killed this weekend. There is just too much pent-up rage out there that is likely to find a chaotic outlet.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:26:28am

re: #293 plansbandc

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*WHACK!*

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:29:01am

re: #296 thedopefishlives

LGF supports pigeon English!

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:34:41am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am concerned that people are going to het shot and even killed this weekend. There is just too much pent-up rage out there that is likely to find a chaotic outlet.

I won’t mourn a few dead fascists. Though it will be tragic if any guardsmen, cops or innocent bystanders die.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:34:47am

re: #294 Jay C

Did he really?

He was a bit less of a pure opportunist and self-aggrandizer than Rudy in any case

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:35:35am

re: #298 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I won’t mourn a few dead fascists. Though it will be tragic if any guardsmen, cops or innocent bystanders die.

nobody needs this shit

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:36:05am

washingtonpost.com

When Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar announced this week that the federal government would begin releasing coronavirus vaccine doses held in reserve for second shots, no such reserve existed, according to state and federal officials briefed on distribution plans. The Trump administration had already begun shipping out what was available beginning at the end of December, taking second doses directly off the manufacturing line.

..

Now, health officials across the country who had anticipated their extremely limited vaccine supply as much as doubling beginning next week are confronting the reality that their allocations will not immediately increase, dashing hopes of dramatically expanding eligibility for millions of elderly people and those with high-risk medical conditions. Health officials in some cities and states were informed in recent days about the reality of the situation, while others are still in the dark.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:36:21am
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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:36:55am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was a bit less of a pure opportunist and self-aggrandizer than Rudy in any case

Great opportunism there Rudy. You could have had a nice retirement, giving occasional speeches off of your reputation for an income. Now you’re a national disgrace, and may end up being tried for sedition.

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Ming5000  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:38:00am

re: #283 jaunte

Oof…. I don’t want to look too closely, but this dude looks jacked up.

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:38:09am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

nobody needs this shit

If the fascists are smart, they will stay home. But that’s the problem, they aren’t.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:38:43am

re: #303 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Great opportunism there Rudy. You could have had a nice retirement, giving occasional speeches off of your reputation for an income. Now you’re a national disgrace, and may end up being tried for sedition.

He’s the Lance Armstrong of politicians.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:39:03am

re: #305 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If the fascists are smart, they will stay home. But that’s the problem, they aren’t.

they have been puffing up their chests and stockpiling weapons for years, and they see this as their big chance…that is what scares me.

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Dangerman  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:39:40am

re: #305 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If the fascists are smart, they will stay home. But that’s the problem, they aren’t.

i repeat
some time in the future someone is gonna brag about ‘getting away with it’
either in public or directly on social media
and then will get nabbed

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PrairieQueen  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:40:12am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am concerned that people are going to het shot and even killed this weekend. There is just too much pent-up rage out there that is likely to find a chaotic outlet.

Unfortunately, there’s no way to mitigate who might get killed if these nuts storm government buildings, take hostages or set off bombs.

No, I don’t care how many terrorists die, but the damage they can inflict on others affects everyone. This is why it’s so important to make examples of the failed attempts. The prosecution and sentencing of these treasonous assholes should be merciless.

Used to be, people were executed for this kind of shit.

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aagcobb  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:41:10am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they have been puffing up their chests and stockpiling weapons for years, and they see this as their big chance…that is what scares me.

January 6 was their big chance, and they blew it. Now law enforcement is ready for them.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:41:12am

re: #287 Dangerman

I’m thinking either SFO and Napa or trip to Yellowstone/Grand Teton via SLC.

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HypnoToad  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:43:05am

Given the insurrection and the COVID pandemic, and how a distressingly large number of people in our society are supportive of one and in denial of the other, I’m wondering if many of the rest of us will be far warier of the other people around them from now on.

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Thanos  Jan 15, 2021 • 9:51:58am

re: #267 Dr. Matt

General Honore is a freaking badass. Great leader. He was the general that was yelling and law enforcement to put their weapons down as they were patrolling NOLA after Katrina yet

He’s also the fellow who coined the phrase “Stuck on Stupid” iirc


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