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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2021 • 2:53:45pm

Seriously, while I have little sympathy for Qanon folks, I have enough to say that there needs to be hotlines with de-culting experts at the ready to help guide them past the stage of suicidal ideation and into a place where family and friends can step in to talk to them and guide them back to some normalcy.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 16, 2021 • 2:54:12pm

In the next 6 months, most of the things we want to happen will not happen. Most of the things we are afraid of will not happen. Blessed Inertia will reassert itself.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 16, 2021 • 2:54:16pm

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

That sounds good to me.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:00:49pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:01:39pm
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Teukka  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:02:27pm
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No Malarkey!  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:02:34pm

re: #2 Decatur Deb

In the next 6 months, most of the things we want to happen will not happen. Most of the things we are afraid of will not happen. Blessed Inertia will reassert itself.

One thing is for sure, we won’t have to worry about what crazy or terrible thing the President will do or say when we get up every morning.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:04:48pm

re: #7 NO SMOCKING GUN!

One thing is for sure, we won’t have to worry about what crazy or terrible thing the President will do or say when we get up every morning.

He was fascinating, like a chimpanzee with a hand grenade.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:05:41pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Hmm. That might be an insult to chimps.

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LadyBehir  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:07:27pm

What are we going to use to start off threads now that we won’t need to “FT” anymore?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:07:49pm

DeathSantis is having a scientist arrested for telling the truth. This is fascism.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:08:47pm

re: #9 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. That might be an insult to chimps.

Not the chimp’s fault he’s a chimp, not even Trump’s fault he’s a Trump. The cynical motherfuckers who put him in power need to be bulldozed into a volcano.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:09:16pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

He was fascinating, like a chimpanzee with a hand grenade.

Never Give an Ape an AK-47

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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:09:34pm

re: #10 LadyBehir

What are we going to use to start off threads now that we won’t need to “FT” anymore?

How about AT for Arrest Trump?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:12:38pm

re: #10 LadyBehir

What are we going to use to start off threads now that we won’t need to “FT” anymore?

GOTV.

I have a lame coronavirus-limited voter registration action on Monday. Our League of Women Voters leader, who thinks her episode has immunized her, held one on Friday.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:15:28pm

re: #10 LadyBehir

What are we going to use to start off threads now that we won’t need to “FT” anymore?

re: #14 William Lewis

How about AT for Arrest Trump?

CT: Convict Trump
ST: Sentence Trump

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:18:13pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

CT: Convict Trump
ST: Sentence Trump

I’m thinking of something on a positive note: GBH

Go Biden Harris

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:25:29pm

Plus, FT is still a good catchall…

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:25:42pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:25:53pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:26:38pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:27:56pm

“Not Pockets”

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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:28:01pm

Rod Stewart - Every picture tells a story (Live Philadelphia 1988)
Spent some time feeling inferior
Standing in front of my mirror
Combed my hair in a thousand ways
But I came out looking just the same
Daddy said, son, you better see the world
I wouldn’t blame you if you wanted to leave
But remember one thing, don’t lose your head
To a woman that’ll spend your bread
So I got out, whoo
Paris was a place you could hide away
If you felt you didn’t fit in
The French police wouldn’t give me no peace
They claimed I was a nasty person
Down along the Left Bank, minding my own, whoo
Was knocked down by a human stampede
Got arrested for inciting a peaceful riot
When all I wanted was a cup of tea
I was accused, whoo
I moved on
Down in Rome, I wasn’t getting enough
Of the things that keep a young man alive
My body stunk, but I kept my funk, whoo
At a time when I was right outta luck
Getting desperate, indeed I was, yeah
Looking like a tourist attraction
Oh my dear, I better get out of here
For the Vatican don’t give no sanction
I wasn’t ready for that, no, no
I moved right out east, yeah
Listen, on the Peeking ferry, I was feelin merry
Sailing on my way back here
I fell in love with a slit-eyed lady
By the light of an eastern moon
Shanghai Lil never used the pill
She claimed that it just ain’t natural
She took me up on deck and bit my neck
Oh, people, I was glad I found her
Oh, yes I was glad I found her, woo-hoo
Wait a minute
I firmly believed that I
Didn’t need anyone but me
I sincerely thought I was so complete
Look how wrong you can be
The women I’ve known I wouldn’t let tie my shoe
They wouldn’t give you the time of day
But the slit-eyed lady knocked me off my feet
God, I was glad I found her
And if they had the words I could tell to you
To help you on the way down the road
I couldn’t quote you no Dickens, Shelley or Keats
‘Cause it’s all been said before
Make the best out of the bad, just laugh it off, ha
You didn’t have to come here anyway
So remember, every picture tells a story, don’t it
Every picture tells a story, don’t it
Every picture tells a story, don’t it, whoo
Every picture tells a story, don’t it

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:28:09pm

So we talked to our RW brother today; little of the conversation involved politics. But the part that did: he claimed people had entered the Capitol while Trump was still speaking, thereby proving that some non-Trump organization was behind the invasion. It was so clearly not Trump supporters behind the attack. And he retains belief in all the lies about a stolen election, especially the dead people voting and people voting from empty lots. And, of course, on the coronavirus front, the early nursing home deaths in NY were all Cuomo’s fault, no blame due to the incompetent federal response at the beginning of the epidemic.

And then he rants about how 2022 the GOP will sweep in and get a huge majority. It’s possible he’s right on that one — there is a strong likelihood that we might be experiencing an economic meltdown due to the continuing economic effects of the pandemic.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:28:44pm

re: #18 TedStriker

BBB, not Better Business Bureau, but Build Back Better.

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gwangung  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:30:42pm

re: #24 Hecuba’s daughter

So we talked to our RW brother today; little of the conversation involved politics. But the part that did: he claimed people had entered the Capitol while Trump was still speaking, thereby proving that some non-Trump organization was behind the invasion. It was so clearly not Trump supporters behind the attack. And he retains belief in all the lies about a stolen election, especially the dead people voting and people voting from empty lots. And, of course, on the coronavirus front, the early nursing home deaths in NY were all Cuomo’s fault, no blame due to the incompetent federal response at the beginning of the epidemic.

And then he rants about how 2022 the GOP will sweep in and get a huge majority. It’s possible he’s right on that one — there is a strong likelihood that we might be experiencing an economic meltdown due to the continuing economic effects of the pandemic.

I’m sure the list of “dead” voters will be a surprise to the voters, as it turns out half of them voted quite legally, since they were alive (and the other half were misidentifications).

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LadyBehir  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:31:57pm

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

I was thinking GJ for Go, Joe!

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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:33:12pm

They never stop moving the goalposts.

Pathetic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:33:33pm

re: #11 NO SMOCKING GUN!

DeathSantis is having a scientist arrested for telling the truth. This is fascism.

That’s how you get rid of asshat politicians whether it’s police misconduct or conservative overreach. You punish the taxpayers who voted for them (and make sure no general bonds are passed which can be used to pay off the fines).

That is literally the only way people have to stop conservatives from abuse of power.

It was massive lawsuits against Maricopa County which got Joe Arapaio ejected in the election for sheriff.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:33:51pm

Hey does anyone have that screenshot of that stupid 45/19 Q conspiracy?

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A Mom Anon  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:39:14pm

I’ve been doing chores most of the day, did I miss anything? Today was Cleo’s Bath Day. I hurt. And there’s a giant load of towels in the washer. Her skin is still dry and flaky, but nothing even close to the awful it was a couple of weeks ago. The infection appears to be gone. Fingers crossed. She’s also done with the excessive shedding, thanks to all the deities that ever were. The Husband has been brushing her more regularly and that helps too. Here she is a moment ago after being naughty:

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:39:37pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:41:04pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:43:37pm

re: #31 A Mom Anon

She’s gorgeous. Reminds me of my boy!

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:46:35pm

re: #28 makeitstop

I’m not surprised that Bin Laden hates the party responsible for her Uncle’s death.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:47:36pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:50:25pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

GOTV.

I have a lame coronavirus-limited voter registration action on Monday. Our League of Women Voters leader, who thinks her episode has immunized her, held one on Friday.

My group will be sending postcards about the insurrection to voters who might not have been paying attention (yes, there are such people), and thus don’t know that their representatives were part of it.

No rest …

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:50:27pm
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makeitstop  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:51:50pm

Seb Gorka comes for Steve Schmidt, has his ass handed to him. Thread.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:53:17pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

Chef Jose Andres deserves a medal for what he has done all over the world.

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Mattand  Jan 16, 2021 • 3:58:02pm

re: #19 jaunte

Speaking of election lies, I’m reminded that Dominion has sent “preservation” notices to the following, telling them to preserve all relevant documents and communication:

Melissa Carone
Maria Bartiromo
Lou Dobbs
Greg Kelly
Sean Hannity
Rush Limbaugh
Newsmax
OAN
Fox News…

It’d be a real shame if his last moments on Earth were knowing that his entire estate was being wiped out due to losing a slander lawsuit against Dominion.

Yep; be a reeeeallll shame…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:01:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:03:00pm

re: #40 PhillyPretzel

Chef Jose Andres deserves a medal for what he has done all over the world.

The Congressional Gold Medal or the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:05:18pm
Within one day of last week’s attack on the Capitol, at least three states introduced legislation to criminalize protest. The bills, advanced by Republican lawmakers in Florida, Mississippi, and Indiana, do not represent new strategies designed specifically to prevent future right-wing insurrections. Rather, they draw from a set of policies that numerous state legislators introduced this summer in order to appear tough on protests against police brutality.

Florida’s and Mississippi’s bills in particular represent a new brand of anti-protest laws on steroids, creating penalties for a wide array of activities, from damaging monuments to obstructing traffic. The bills include measures that could encourage harsh law enforcement responses to protests as well as provisions meant to prevent local governments from reducing police funding.

The narrower Indiana bill would broaden the definition of rioting — which the Florida bill did as well — and would criminalize camping at the Indiana state Capitol. The Mississippi bill would also allow the state to strip unemployment benefits from anyone who pleads guilty to participating in disruptive protests.

(more)

In Wake of Capitol Riot, GOP Legislatures “Rebrand” Old Anti-BLM Protest Laws (The Intercept)

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:05:26pm

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:06:00pm

re: #40 PhillyPretzel

Chef Jose Andres deserves a medal for what he has done all over the world.

Better yet, he deserves a huge statue.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:06:35pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:09:49pm

After being offline for 26 hours, what did I miss?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:15:48pm

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

After being offline for 26 hours, what did I miss?

The CEO of MyPillow trying to get Trump to declare martial law.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:17:32pm

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

After being offline for 26 hours, what did I miss?

Oh, yeah, and that little seditionist twat Jenna Ryan, the woman who was loudly proclaiming her crimes on Twitter and elsewhere, now begging for a pardon after being arrested.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:19:21pm

🙌🏿 🎉 😆

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:21:05pm

Oh, and Baked Alaska is toast after being arrested by the FBI.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:21:18pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Oh, and Baked Alaska is toast after being arrested by the FBI.

Oh yeah, that happened too.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:23:06pm

I had to go with McTurtle for the magnitude of the damage he has done over the years. Hawley edges out Cruz for sheer depravity while Graham is simply pathetic.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:23:09pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:26:51pm

re: #24 Hecuba’s daughter

So we talked to our RW brother today; little of the conversation involved politics. But the part that did: he claimed people had entered the Capitol while Trump was still speaking, thereby proving that some non-Trump organization was behind the invasion. It was so clearly not Trump supporters behind the attack. And he retains belief in all the lies about a stolen election, especially the dead people voting and people voting from empty lots. And, of course, on the coronavirus front, the early nursing home deaths in NY were all Cuomo’s fault, no blame due to the incompetent federal response at the beginning of the epidemic.

And then he rants about how 2022 the GOP will sweep in and get a huge majority. It’s possible he’s right on that one — there is a strong likelihood that we might be experiencing an economic meltdown due to the continuing economic effects of the pandemic.

Share this with him:

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:30:54pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:34:49pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:35:01pm

It’s curious that Trump wouldn’t pay Giuliani, except of course it isn’t. In a rational world, Trump would understand that RG has more shit on him than virtually anyone. So I guess RG will get paid via pardon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:35:29pm

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

After being offline for 26 hours, what did I miss?

This?

Critics warn National Guard lacks exit strategy for presidential inauguration (Duffel Blog)

“We have no metric for what success looks like,” said one high ranking officer.

WASHINGTON — More than 20,000 national guardsmen are expected to deploy to the nation’s capital to provide additional security during President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20, but critics warn the National Guard appears to lack an exit strategy.

“We have no metric for what success looks like,” said one high ranking officer. “Is it an hour after the man is sworn in? Is it when the protesters have all left? We just don’t know.”

The ongoing military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq have left many questioning if this deployment to Washington has a defined objective or could be instead a so-called “Forever Civil War.”

Pentagon officials assured members of the public on Thursday the activation would be strictly limited to the events surrounding the presidential inauguration, but military watchdog groups are skeptical after observing a newly constructed Green Beans Coffee shop inside the Capitol visitors center. Green Beans Coffee is a popular cafe typically found in military bases located in forward-deployed bases in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Africa.

(more)

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:35:38pm

re: #60 Barefoot Grin

It’s curious that Trump wouldn’t pay Giuliani, except of course it isn’t. In a rational world, Trump would understand that RG has more shit on him than virtually anyone. So I guess RG will get paid via pardon.

I’m questioning that now. I think Trump is firmly in The Incredible Sulk mode, and if he can’t get a pardon, then fuck everybody else.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:36:08pm

re: #59 Dread Pirate Ron

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Maybe coulda done it during the election?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:36:49pm

Damnit! I forgot to throw away money on the Megamillions while I was grocery shopping today.

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b.d. (Be Best!)  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:37:09pm

Crazed cartoonist creates second account after being banned.

I didn’t think you could do that?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:37:51pm

re: #65 b.d. (We Won!)

Crazed cartoonist creates second account after being banned.

I didn’t think you could do that?

You can’t. He’ll get banned again in short order. Ask our favorite little rage furby; he’s on account number… 26?

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A Three Hour Tour  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:41:31pm

re: #66 thedopefishlives

You can’t. He’ll get banned again in short order. Ask our favorite little rage furby; he’s on account number… 26?

Well, you can do it. It’s against the rules, but if you don’t draw undue attention to yourself and nobody reports you, you can get away with it for a time.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:41:49pm

re: #64 Barefoot Grin

Damnit! I forgot to throw away money on the Megamillions while I was grocery shopping today.

Today’s drawing is PowerBall. Next MegaMillions is on Tuesday.

PowerBall jackpot is trailing MegaMillions. Currently only at $650M (annuitized), but if no one wins tonight then it too will creep into real-money territory.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:42:19pm

re: #58 Patricia Kayden

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So they held onto Trump with an iron grip a year ago, thinking that he was gonna be the key to not only keeping the White House, but also taking back one-party rule of Congress.

Great plan, eh?///////

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:42:51pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:43:11pm

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Today’s drawing is PowerBall. Next MegaMillions is on Tuesday.

PowerBall jackpot is trailing MegaMillions. Currently only at $650M (annuitized), but if no one wins tonight then it too will creep into real-money territory.

So I still have time! Being serious for a moment, I do occasionally buy a ticket as a passport to dreamland.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:49:20pm

re: #60 Barefoot Grin

It’s curious that Trump wouldn’t pay Giuliani, except of course it isn’t. In a rational world, Trump would understand that RG has more shit on him than virtually anyone. So I guess RG will get paid via pardon.

Trump has always screwed everyone who worked for him. He shafted contractors and businesses who fulfilled the terms of their contracts, because the only thing he and Trumpworld ever cared about was pulling one over on everyone else. It was his profit, and you weren’t allowed to take a penny more. Trump would engage in lawfare to reduce smaller businesses to nothing - because they couldn’t afford to fight Trumpworld.

Trump even fucked over his lawyers, even when they did their jobs competently.

Rudy’s a weird case, because Rudy has done a spectacularly awful job, but Trump screwing Rudy gives Rudy incentive to fight to get the money he wants or else spill the beans to avoid prison. Weird dynamics here, but nothing surprising. Trumpworld loyalty always flows to Trump and nothing goes the other way.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:52:55pm

re: #72 lawhawk

Trump has always screwed everyone who worked for him. He shafted contractors and businesses who fulfilled the terms of their contracts, because the only thing he and Trumpworld ever cared about was pulling one over on everyone else. It was his profit, and you weren’t allowed to take a penny more. Trump would engage in lawfare to reduce smaller businesses to nothing - because they couldn’t afford to fight Trumpworld.

Trump even fucked over his lawyers, even when they did their jobs competently.

Rudy’s a weird case, because Rudy has done a spectacularly awful job, but Trump screwing Rudy gives Rudy incentive to fight to get the money he wants or else spill the beans to avoid prison. Weird dynamics here, but nothing surprising. Trumpworld loyalty always flows to Trump and nothing goes the other way.

It is so weird how we can see him as a pantload and all of these others get cowed into loyalty. It’s really the only thing I give Comey credit for.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:53:24pm

re: #64 Barefoot Grin

Damnit! I forgot to throw away money on the Megamillions while I was grocery shopping today.

Good. I won’t have to split the jackpot with you. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:54:02pm

re: #65 b.d. (We Won!)

Crazed cartoonist creates second account after being banned.

I didn’t think you could do that?

He can be reported on Twitter for that (if you’re on Twitter).

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:54:13pm

JFCFT on the way out the door

“…The concern of Nakasone and others, current and former officials said, is that the White House is seeking to “burrow” Ellis into the job in violation of a long-standing policy that prevents embedding political personnel into career civilian positions prior to a change in administration.

Nakasone recently got a verbal indication from the Office of Personnel Management that the policy did not apply to intelligence community employees, according to one U.S. official. On Thursday, he requested a written legal opinion on that point, according to two officials. He has not yet received that written opinion, the officials said.

Ellis previously was chief counsel to Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), a staunch Trump supporter and former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Ellis joined the White House in 2017, when he became a lawyer on the National Security Council and in 2019 he was elevated to senior director for intelligence.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:54:16pm

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

PowerBall tends to be a bit more popular because it pays out more in the most-likely winning plays - powerball only or pb+one_wb. Typically PB pays out $4 for a powerball only play win.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:55:47pm

re: #76 jaunte

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darthstar  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:58:26pm

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2021 • 4:59:39pm
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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:00:47pm

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

So I still have time! Being serious for a moment, I do occasionally buy a ticket as a passport to dreamland.

Depends on the cutoff time where you are, but here in Nashville, it’s generally about 9 PM CST the night of the draw.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:03:07pm

PowerBall boffins expect today’s drawing to be 29.9% coverage (of the possible combinations), which means a lot of ticket buys.

Also means a good chance of someone winning it.

Which is why it is very rare to get jackpots higher than tonight’s $640M.

re: #81 TedStriker

PowerBall cuts off buying at 7PM Pacific Time. MegaMillions allows one to buy up to 15 minutes before draw (7:45PM Pacific.)

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:04:03pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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From the sort of brain trust that no doubt believed stationing many of the same NG troops in DC this past summer was indicative of how “violent” BLM and Antifa are.

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darthstar  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:05:35pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:06:57pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This?

Critics warn National Guard lacks exit strategy for presidential inauguration (Duffel Blog)

“We have no metric for what success looks like,” said one high ranking officer.

(more)

So the gov already has a contract with them and used them for the coffee shop.

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darthstar  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:07:53pm

It’s a good thing Boebert’s mom wasn’t photographed storming the Capitol.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:09:32pm

MAGAts are just pissed that there will be more troops at Biden’s inauguration than total attendees at Trump’s.

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darthstar  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:10:13pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:14:52pm

Read this thread by Rebekah Jones, who is being persecuted by FL Governor DeSantis for contradicting his propaganda about Covid 19 in the state:

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:17:10pm

re: #65 b.d. (We Won!)

Crazed cartoonist creates second account after being banned.

[Embedded content]

I didn’t think you could do that?

He doubled down on the asshole shit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:17:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:20:21pm

re: #89 jaunte

Read this thread by Rebekah Jones, who is being persecuted by FL Governor DeSantis for contradicting his propaganda about Covid 19 in the state:

Using the power of the state to stifle speech is precisely what the I Amendment protects against, not the horseshit that conservatives are complaining about in the Twitter honkycaust.

The lawsuit needs to be for billions against the state. Enough to bankrupt their libertarian paradise flat tax system. Make the taxpayers pay for electing fascists.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:23:48pm

re: #88 darthstar

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Might explain how the detailed maps of the interior got into the hands of the terrorists.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:25:02pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:27:25pm
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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:28:17pm

They seem to be trying to pull some late shenanigan at the DoD.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:29:34pm

re: #96 jaunte

They seem to be trying to pull some late shenanigan at the DoD.

One possibility is to cover up the failed coup and armed insurrection and the failed response by the DOD to come to the Capitol in a timely manner. That delay lacks sufficient explanation and Occam’s Razor points to Trump interfering and delaying to give the insurrectionists time to succeed.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:30:07pm

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:30:26pm

re: #97 lawhawk

It doesn’t seem like he has a big enough crew to destroy all the records.

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:31:19pm

re: #98 Patricia Kayden

Waiting for the zombie hand to violently reach up out of the dirt.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:35:56pm
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:35:57pm

re: #95 jaunte

All the easier to fire him then.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:39:28pm
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:39:38pm

re: #100 jaunte

Waiting for the zombie hand to violently reach up out of the dirt.

We’re in the part of the movie where we find out that the guy who just seemed to control everything can also transform into a monster creature.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:40:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:40:57pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:41:58pm

Went searching for “Value Village Palin” on the new Boebert news.

Hit this within a few:

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:42:12pm

re: #102 Belafon

All the easier to fire him then.

Is it?
OK, I will freely claim absolutely NO expertise in the details of Federal hiring laws, but ISTR reading somewhere that many of the Trump Admin’s spate of “last-minute” appointments were being done to insert (or TRY to insert) loyal wingnuts into various administrative positions that fall under some sort or other of “civil service” protection, so that they can’t just “be fired”. Or at least not as easily as the “political” appointees.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:42:16pm
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PrairieQueen  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:45:13pm

re: #59 Dread Pirate Ron

Put a broom handle through his spokes and leave him to rot someplace. He’s a disgusting human being. 80 years ago he’d be a full-on, unapologetic, Nazi, doing whatever he could to climb the ladder within the org. Really, just fuck this guy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:45:56pm

re: #108 Jay C

Is it?
OK, I will freely claim absolutely NO expertise in the details of Federal hiring laws, but ISTR reading somewhere that many of the Trump Admin’s spate of “last-minute” appointments were being done to insert loyal wingnuts into various administrative positions that fall under some sort or other of “civil service” protection, so that they can’t just “be fired”. Or at least not as easily as the “political” appointees.

That has to do with Trump’s executive order regarding the Civil Service.

Executive Order on Creating Schedule F In The Excepted Service (White House proclamation page)

Get rid of this EO, get rid of the people he’s embedding to subvert the government.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:47:06pm

re: #108 Jay C

Is it?
OK, I will freely claim absolutely NO expertise in the details of Federal hiring laws, but ISTR reading somewhere that many of the Trump Admin’s spate of “last-minute” appointments were being done to insert loyal wingnuts into various administrative positions that fall under some sort or other of “civil service” protection, so that they can’t just “be fired”. Or at least not as easily as the “political” appointees.

“Acting” director circumventing normal chain of appointment. I’d think Joe/Kamala would have a good case.

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Dangerman  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:50:55pm
Online misinformation about election fraud plunged 73 percent after several social media sites suspended President Trump and key allies last week, research firm Zignal Labs has found, underscoring the power of tech companies to limit the falsehoods poisoning public debate when they act aggressively,” the Washington Post reports.

who is surprised by this?

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Dangerman  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:51:57pm

re: #105 Patricia Kayden

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no

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:52:08pm

re: #112 Eventual Carrion

“Acting” director circumventing normal chain of appointment. I’d think Joe/Kamala would have a good case.

That EO up there allows any director (acting or not) to circumvent normal federal hiring rules and allows that director to hire anyone he or she wants.

Since directors are normally political appointees, that means they can hire partisans rather than those actually qualified for the job.

That EO was written on October 20, 2020, and it predicted at the time he would do precisely this (install hacks in various departments such as VOA, DOD, NSA, &c).

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:52:27pm

re: #113 Dangerman

Isn’t that amazing? They could have done this from the get go.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:52:30pm

re: #113 Dangerman

Not in the slightest.

It’s the disruption of the circle of derp. Trump can’t plum the fever swamps and elevate conspiracy theories that Fox and OAN can then report Trump saying, and Trump then citing those same news sources as how this is real, and then back to the fever swamps where they go even more batcrap insane.

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Dangerman  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:53:42pm

re: #98 Patricia Kayden

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wait until dark. (hepburn/arkin)
(hes not dead)

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:53:48pm

re: #114 Dangerman

The GOHMERT of the Senate.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:53:56pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fire anyone employed via this EO or laterally transfer the employees to dead end positions.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:55:18pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t that amazing? They could have done this from the get go.

As Twitter noted, if you kick off the Nazis you’d also get a lot of Republican politicians.

They could have done it, but never get between a libertarian and his money. They only did it because they see the incoming Democratic administration and they’re trying to stave off regulation by saying “see we can regulate ourselves.” (Narrator: No corporation ever regulated itself.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 5:56:56pm

re: #120 Patricia Kayden

Fire anyone employed via this EO or laterally transfer the employees to dead end positions.

Utqiagvik AK - National Weather Service

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gwangung  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:00:13pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Utqiagvik AK - National Weather Service

Ah. Kyril Island, Camp Permafrost.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:00:34pm

Seeing this picture made me cry a little. (Happy tears)

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jaunte  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:03:03pm

I look forward to smiling more in 2021.

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b.d. (Be Best!)  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:08:22pm

Beware 1st reports:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:13:04pm

1. This is stupid.
2. Moving back the inauguration would NOT change the end date of Trumps term.
3. NO
4. This is stupid.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:15:47pm

The inauguration could be moved…but it would just mean that President Pelosi took over until Repubs finally got over their hurt feelings and agreed to allow Biden to be sworn in.

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retired cynic  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:17:31pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

The article says Biden would be sworn in, there just wouldn’t be an inauguration. Makes no sense.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:22:45pm

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m thinking of something on a positive note: GBH

Go Biden Harris

What about try em and fry em? That’s positive.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:24:33pm

re: #129 retired cynic

The article says Biden would be sworn in, there just wouldn’t be an inauguration. Makes no sense.

Tater apparently believes that “the inauguration” and the swearing in are two different things, possibly that the former refers to various celebrations and public events and the latter to the legal start of the new administration. In fact, they are one and the same, whether all the hoopla goes ahead or not.

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Dangerman  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:25:46pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As Twitter noted, if you kick off the Nazis you’d also get a lot of Republican politicians nazis.

They could have done it, but never get between a libertarian and his money. They only did it because they see the incoming Democratic administration and they’re trying to stave off regulation by saying “see we can regulate ourselves.” (Narrator: No corporation ever regulated itself.)

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:27:11pm

re: #131 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Tater apparently believes that “the inauguration” and the swearing in are two different things, possibly that the former refers to various celebrations and public events and the latter to the legal start of the new administration. In fact, they are one and the same, wether all the hoopla goes ahead or not.

It’s the usual Repub concern trolling, in this case the idea that the public ceremonies be “postponed” due to the danger posed by the pandemic to attendees.

I’m sure he’d be every bit as vocal about such “concerns” if it were Trump being sworn in for the second time next week.//////

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:32:30pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

1. This is stupid.
2. Moving back the inauguration would NOT change the end date of Trumps term.
3. NO
4. This is stupid.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:35:58pm

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

So I still have time! Being serious for a moment, I do occasionally buy a ticket as a passport to dreamland.

For the first time in 2 years, I purchased lottery tickets yesterday. Told the store clerk I was wasting some money on the Megamillions. Maybe I’ll get tickets for the Tuesday game — or not. As you say, it’s fun to fantasize for a few hours about a prize that few of us will ever see. As long as it’s money you can spare, there’s probably no harm.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:37:48pm

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

For the first time in 2 years, I purchased lottery tickets yesterday. Told the store clerk I was wasting some money on the Megamillions. Maybe I’ll get tickets for the Tuesday game — or not. As you say, it’s fun to fantasize for a few hours about a prize that few of us will ever see. As long as it’s money you can spare, there’s probably no harm.

This is my plan as far as gambling in general. Mrs. Fish has never been to Vegas (I have, once, but as a teenager so I couldn’t participate in any activities) and would love to go. I told her the ground rules: We’ll set up a budget. There will be no deviating from that budget; once we’ve lost that money, we’re done, period. It will be treated as spending money for the purposes of accounting. If we come away with some wins, or less losses than the budget allowed, then good for us.

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still stpaulbear  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:39:26pm

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

For the first time in 2 years, I purchased lottery tickets yesterday. Told the store clerk I was wasting some money on the Megamillions. Maybe I’ll get tickets for the Tuesday game — or not. As you say, it’s fun to fantasize for a few hours about a prize that few of us will ever see. As long as it’s money you can spare, there’s probably no harm.

I always call the evening that I buy a lottery ticket my ‘Night of Hope”.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:40:18pm

re: #136 thedopefishlives

This is my plan as far as gambling in general. Mrs. Fish has never been to Vegas (I have, once, but as a teenager so I couldn’t participate in any activities) and would love to go. I told her the ground rules: We’ll set up a budget. There will be no deviating from that budget; once we’ve lost that money, we’re done, period. It will be treated as spending money for the purposes of accounting. If we come away with some wins, or less losses than the budget allowed, then good for us.

It’s the only way to do Vegas. Plus there are hundreds of restaurants and shows. Walking around is also fun. (When the $%%$#% pandemic is over).

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:41:27pm

re: #138 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s the only way to do Vegas. Plus there are hundreds of restaurants and shows. Walking around is also fun. (When the $%%$#% pandemic is over).

Yep. I ate at some good places, and some of the outdoor displays are astounding. However, since we were traveling as part of a Bible Quiz tournament, it was… amusing to hear my parents say, “Don’t look at the sidewalk!” as we were walking. The scattered paraphernalia of Vegas hookers was everywhere.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:42:04pm

You know I bet Donald is still hoping for some kind of insane last minute miracle that will keep him President for another term.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:43:36pm

re: #139 thedopefishlives

Yep. I ate at some good places, and some of the outdoor displays are astounding. However, since we were traveling as part of a Bible Quiz tournament, it was… amusing to hear my parents say, “Don’t look at the sidewalk!” as we were walking. The scattered paraphernalia of Vegas hookers was everywhere.

LOL. Last time I was in Vegas there was a billboard truck advertising hookers going up and down the Strip almost the entire time.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:44:28pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

LOL. Last time I was in Vegas there was a billboard truck advertising hookers going up and down the Strip almost the entire time.

The best part was the naive innocent young home-schooled girl we had with us as part of our team. She saw things she can never unsee, poor lady.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:46:01pm

re: #126 b.d. (We Won!)

Beware 1st reports:

Because I’m going to believe his wife and parents.

Besides, what security guard needs an unregistered weapon and five hundred rounds of ammunition? Security guards normally follow the law, and every weapon in DC requires registration. Presumably someone living in Virginia near the state line would know that.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:47:47pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Because I’m going to believe his wife and parents.

Besides, what security guard needs an unregistered weapon and five hundred rounds of ammunition? Security guards normally follow the law, and every weapon in DC requires registration. Presumably someone living in Virginia near the state line would know that.

I’d go so far as to say security guards always follow the law, because if they don’t, their employers will be liable for not advising their employees as to the law in the area where they are providing security, and I doubt that any security company worth its salt would allow that to happen.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:50:12pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

1. This is stupid.
2. Moving back the inauguration would NOT change the end date of Trumps term.
3. NO
4. This is stupid.

I swear no conservative knows a damn thing about the Constitution. All those things this guy mentioned could be changed by an amendment.

The inauguration date and time could be changed by an amendment as well: Good luck with getting that done before January 20 at noon. There is no need to delay the inauguration for a pandemic.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:53:09pm

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Exactly. As DT’s term ends Joe will be sworn in. Joe can be sworn in almost anywhere. It can be in Washington DC or in Wilmington DE.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:57:43pm

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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I swear no conservative knows a damn thing about the Constitution. All those things this guy mentioned could be changed by an amendment.

The inauguration date and time could be changed by an amendment as well: Good luck with getting that done before January 20 at noon. There is no need to delay the inauguration for a pandemic.

The talk about “delaying” the inauguration started only in the last couple weeks. And it wasn’t started due to “concern” over the pandemic, it was started as a way to respond to people pointing out that any “fraud” concerns would be moot on Jan 20th. So they can feel free to spare me the BS about it being due to the pandemic.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2021 • 6:57:58pm

re: #146 PhillyPretzel

Exactly. As DT’s term ends Joe will be sworn in. Joe can be sworn in almost anywhere. It can be in Washington DC or in Wilmington DE.

And by any Federal official that can meet the minimaI definition of “official”.
(I think)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:01:53pm

re: #58 Patricia Kayden

Still team GOP even as he gets the threats against his life.

Republicanism is a cult.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:02:58pm

Here is something I found a little while ago regarding JFK’s assassination and LBJ’s swearing in.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:04:18pm

re: #136 thedopefishlives

That’s a solid strategy. I’m not a gambler, so walking through the casinos with the Mrs. was only to show her the sights on the Strip and downtown. If you’re going to spend money in Vegas, do it with the shows and food. They’ve got Broadway quality shows and acts, and there’s a seemingly endless supply of good restaurants.

We are partial to the Hugo’s Cellar at the Four Queens Casino on Freemont St. if you want a nice steakhouse experience that goes old school. There’s also the free stuff, like watching the fountains at the Bellagio like Danny Ocean or Treasure Island or the Mirage volcano or the lights on Freemont St.

Or drive out to Valley of Fire State Park or further out to Zion NP or Grand Canyon. :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:08:33pm

re: #151 lawhawk

Valley of Fire is great. But go in the spring if you can.

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dat_said  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:09:14pm

re: #136 thedopefishlives

This is my plan as far as gambling in general. Mrs. Fish has never been to Vegas (I have, once, but as a teenager so I couldn’t participate in any activities) and would love to go. I told her the ground rules: We’ll set up a budget. There will be no deviating from that budget; once we’ve lost that money, we’re done, period. It will be treated as spending money for the purposes of accounting. If we come away with some wins, or less losses than the budget allowed, then good for us.

Doubt I’ll go to Las Vegas again for just Las Vegas. The last few times it’s just been a convenient place to get somewhere else like Death Valley or Zion. Actually, quite a bit of scenic stuff not too far from Vegas if that’s your thing. Besides Death Valley and Zion, there’s hiking at Red Rock Canyon, Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire SP, and Snow Canyon SP within two hours and kayaking Black Canyon below Hoover Dam is a way fun diversion from all the noise and neon. Road trip up US93 and catch Valley of Fire and Cathedral Gorge and other state parks up to Great Basin National Park with a side trip on the ET highway or along the NV part of the Loneliest Road in the US (US50).

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:09:25pm

re: #151 lawhawk

The Grand Canyon I didn’t get to see, but we did drive out to the Hoover Dam, because my dad has been a civil engineer for decades and what engineering nerd could pass up an opportunity to see one of the greatest engineering wonders of the world? I admit it gave me vertigo to see the drop into the river bed on the far side of the dam, but I thoroughly enjoyed the experience overall.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:10:54pm

re: #154 thedopefishlives

The Grand Canyon is amazing. I can’t wait to go back.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:14:42pm

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

If you have the chance, try the North Rim. It’s less crowded, but that’s because it’s harder to get to and has fewer amenities than the South Rim.

If we go back, we’d look to hike down into the Canyon and maybe stay at the ranch.

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lawhawk  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:19:33pm

re: #156 lawhawk

Oh, and getting to the North Rim via Page means driving through the Vermillion Cliffs - that’s worth the effort right there, especially around sunrise/sunset.

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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:20:03pm

Didn’t do much today so I thought I’d take a quick snap of me and my best buddy taking in Da Game…

well, a game any way, the one we actually cared about was the early one and we were having too much fun to play with the camera!

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:22:42pm

Boeing

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:23:49pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:24:03pm
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:24:23pm

Yeah I’m Tree, tree falling

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:27:27pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:31:41pm

Damnit, I can’t find my old View Master!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:33:47pm

re: #136 thedopefishlives

re: #153 dat_said

I detest Las Vegas. I’ve stayed there a few times, but only because I was visiting dance competitions.

As for gambling - this should be your entertainment/discretionary budget. I don’t go to movies (even when the theaters were open), I don’t go to fancy restaurants.

The lotteries are my entertainment. (Besides whatever I can find on Youtube, etc.)

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:33:47pm

re: #40 PhillyPretzel

Chef Jose Andres deserves a medal for what he has done all over the world.

I think we’re going to split our “stimulus” money between a local food bank and World Central Kitchen since we are in the fortunate position of not needing the money.

We had a discussion with Mr. C.’s sister and brother-in-law this afternoon about whether the stimulus should have gone to people who don’t need it. We were on the side of it being easier and faster to send it to everyone and many of us who don’t need it will just send it on to food banks and the like.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:35:50pm

Images

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:36:44pm

BTW, Vegas pays out much much better on their games, than do the state lotteries.

The state lotteries are horrible for payouts. Really really bad.

Most casinos, whether Vegas or your local outfit, pay out pretty well on their games because they know they are in competition with each other.

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retired cynic  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:36:47pm

re: #167 Belafon

sssssssss

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:40:01pm

re: #153 dat_said

Doubt I’ll go to Las Vegas again for just Las Vegas. The last few times it’s just been a convenient place to get somewhere else like Death Valley or Zion. Actually, quite a bit of scenic stuff not too far from Vegas if that’s your thing. Besides Death Valley and Zion, there’s hiking at Red Rock Canyon, Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire SP, and Snow Canyon SP within two hours and kayaking Black Canyon below Hoover Dam is a way fun diversion from all the noise and neon. Road trip up US93 and catch Valley of Fire and Cathedral Gorge and other state parks up to Great Basin National Park with a side trip on the ET highway or along the NV part of the Loneliest Road in the US (US50).

Yeah, I’m not a Vegas fan, but there is lots of cool stuff in NV. Great Basin NP is amazing (IMHO) Spring can be gorgeous, but if you want to go all the way up Wheeler Peak and see the Bristlecone Pines, you need to wait for the snow to have melted. And therein lies the problem with the Intermountain West-massive elevation changes to see the cool stuff so it will be too hot or too cold (or both) for part of your trip.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:40:48pm

I’d love to do the Hoover dam tour sometime.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:44:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:46:13pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:49:08pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:52:31pm

I’ve lived in Vegas since ‘96 (with 5 yr break for job in San Diego). I’ve tried to figure out another place to live that has as much to offer as Vegas. World class dining, entertainment and access anywhere in the world from McCarran airport.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:54:03pm

re: #156 lawhawk

If you have the chance, try the North Rim. It’s less crowded, but that’s because it’s harder to get to and has fewer amenities than the South Rim.

If we go back, we’d look to hike down into the Canyon and maybe stay at the ranch.

My mother did a 3-4 day rafting tour down a section of the canyon. I think they might have stayed at the ranch one of the nights.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:55:53pm

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 7:59:13pm

re: #175 EstebanTornado1963

I’ve lived in Vegas since ‘96 (with 5 yr break for job in San Diego). I’ve tried to figure out another place to live that has as much to offer as Vegas. World class dining, entertainment and access anywhere in the world from McCarran airport.

To each his own. I don’t do well in that kind of heat and I’m not that interested in the shows, so I won’t be joining you, but I can understand the appeal.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:00:28pm

Funniest thread I’ve read in awhile.

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:03:37pm

Just felt an earthquake here. Gentle shaking for several seconds.

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:04:19pm

re: #180 calochortus

Just felt an earthquake here. Gentle shaking for several seconds.

Where is “here”?

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:05:01pm

re: #181 Jay C

Where is “here”?

Just west of Palo Alto on the SF Peninsula

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Jay C  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:06:22pm

re: #182 calochortus

Just west of Palo Alto on the SF Peninsula

So Earthquake Country, then.
Hope it’s the only one for a long while…

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:07:07pm

The quake was apparently a 4.5 near Salinas

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:07:44pm

re: #183 Jay C

So Earthquake Country, then.
Hope it’s the only one for a long while…

Yep. We had another little one last week, but we really don’t feel all that many.

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:08:07pm

re: #154 thedopefishlives

The Grand Canyon lived up to the hype for me. I thought it was glorious. Had to wait until I was almost 50 to see it, but it was worth the wait.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:18:03pm

re: #186 plansbandc

The Grand Canyon lived up to the hype for me. I thought it was glorious. Had to wait until I was almost 50 to see it, but it was worth the wait.

In the 1980’s, my husband and I took several trips out west to see various parks. We rented a car and usually spent a night in Las Vegas between visits to Death Valley, Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, and Zion National Park. It was convenient place to stay but our interest was in nature and not gambling.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:22:23pm

I’m off to bed. Or my bed is off to me. Something like that, I get confused about these things.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:23:15pm

Cow comes home

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:28:18pm

Mr. C. has just appeared with a glass of wine, so I’m going to say goodnight.
Hasta mañana, all.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:30:33pm
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Belafon  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:35:18pm

BTW, if you’re in the DFW area, these two dogs, as the nextdoor post put it, lost their owner. They are nine years old. They are good with people, just not cats. If you know someone who could take them both, I could notify the person who has them.

Rex or Rennie
Rex or Rennie 2
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:45:15pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

President Biden needs to push for legislation protecting first amendment rights that overrules these outrageous state laws.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 16, 2021 • 8:52:53pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 16, 2021 • 9:53:06pm

re: #175 EstebanTornado1963

I’m sure there are many wonderful people in Las Vegas, and many aspects there that make it a good place for some.

I was referring to the casino industry.

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darthstar  Jan 17, 2021 • 7:28:52am

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Fuckin’ nihilists.


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