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🌹UOJB!  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:19:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:20:20pm

re: #1 🌹UOJB!

Hell, she’s about a half step away from a “sir”
story at this point.

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austin_blue  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:21:28pm

Huh. It’s almost as if Faux News and R Electeds think that it pays to lie through their teeth, either economically, politically, or both.

Where did they get such an idea?

::checks notes::

Ah, they *invented* it!

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:34:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:37:21pm

re: #108 HRH Stanley Sea

Very good insights here

Moved from the previous thread:

re: #289 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Insights that “inside baseball” blogs like Little Green Footballs and Wonkette noted as the coverage of Donald Trump in 2015 was unfolding.

He writes about how he monitored political pundits and mainstream media outlets, along with Twitter feeds like FOX News Channel.

He did not mention looking at any of the blogs no matter where they are on the political spectrum to see how people analysed what was happening in real time.

Journalists seem to have a very negative opinion of bloggers of any stripe, even though people who ran blogs like Jennifer Rubin became respected political opinion writers. He name drops a lot of people such as Sarah Kendzior, but notes he ignored those warnings, and of African-Americans in general (who damn well knew what they saw in Donald Trump).

In Ms. Rubin’s case, I would imagine it was her extensive knowledge about politics and the prominence of her blog which made her a valuable opinion writer, even if I don’t agree with her political opinions.

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gocart mozart  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:42:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:42:41pm

Things are slowly moving more leftward here.

Getting a hearing for a bill is the hardest part of passing legislation in the Unicameral.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:44:49pm

re: #1 🌹UOJB!

Hey, welcome to politics, Marjorie. If you didn’t want people prying into your life, maybe you should have considered sitting with your millions back in Georgia. Even local politicians have their lives inspected.

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retired cynic  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:57:10pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 8:58:35pm

Other people with similar handles as the anti-Semite who CPAC cancelled have set their Twitter feeds to “private.”

I imagine he was on blast.

His Instagram account is open.

instagram.com

He seems upset.

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austin_blue  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:03:02pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Other people with similar handles as the anti-Semite who CPAC cancelled have set their Twitter feed to “private.”

I imagine he was on blast.

His Instagram account is open.

instagram.com

He seems upset.

Wait, can Censorship be “best”? I always thought it was a free speech issue and suspect.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:03:23pm
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mmmirele  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:08:06pm

re: #9 retired cynic

I love my cat so much…

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austin_blue  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:08:39pm

re: #12 🌹UOJB!

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Mother Jones
@MotherJones
I’m a historian, and I studied the fall of Rome. Here’s what life is like in a dying empire. bit.ly
10:59 PM • Feb 22, 2021

Welp, it took Rome, like, over 150 years to die as an Empire, getting nibbled at for generations. Get back to me in a century and we’ll talk.

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William Lewis  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:10:24pm

re: #12 🌹UOJB!

eh, closer to the fall of the Republic and the transition to empire. We’re arguably at the point right after the Ides of March and waiting to see if the GQP has an Octavian in the insurrectionists.

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gocart mozart  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:12:08pm
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🌹UOJB!  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:15:18pm

re: #16 gocart mozart

What about the butcher who backed into a meat grinder and got a little behind in his work?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:19:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:20:43pm

Who is Young Pharaoh and why should I give a shit?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:36:30pm

re: #247 🌹UOJB!

Anymouse, did you get a CDC sheet requesting you to register with V-Safe to track vaccine effects? Kaiser gave me that request sheet today and I registered with the site. They will do daily check-ins with me for the next 5 weeks minimum.

The Veterans Administration has a form to fill in with unusual effects you might experience, to be filled in over the next month. Once completed, it is to be turned in to the VA. The form says it is information being collected for both the VA and the CDC. It doesn’t say anything about registering with a Website though.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:38:05pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ok. The VA probably has a separate channel for data collection.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:42:00pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Who is Young Pharaoh and why should I give a shit?

Short version: No one and you shouldn’t.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:42:00pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:43:56pm

re: #23 Ace-o-aces

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He’s trying to justify his wife’s part in the insurrection.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:44:53pm

re: #273 Hecuba’s daughter

Our Five Guys has 2 outside tables and the temperature this Saturday is supposed to reach a balmy 43. So hopefully my girlfriend and I will get together for our weekly walk and then visit the restaurant for outdoor dining.

We were indoors, as it is too fookin’ cold here to eat outside.

That said, the restaurant was vacant except us and the employees (timing is everything I guess).

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austin_blue  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:53:37pm

Well, night all. We’re happy. We have running water we can drink again.

The back house is still unusable except for emergency shelter and we can’t wash our clothes, but we are hardly alone in that and neighbors have stepped up and said “Use our washing machine!”

It’s a great neighborhood, we have great neighbors, and the people that run this fucking State are still just as crazy as Q-tips.

Be well.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:54:03pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Who is Young Pharaoh and why should I give a shit?

He claims to be a philosopher, polymath, and artist.

He also runs a scam called Aten Nation, Inc., which also has a Twitter feed (reading it is a bunch of New Age woo combined with untrue Egyptian woo).

Over on his personal account, he’s accusing the American Jewish Committee of slander (for quoting his tweets and asking CPAC to disinvite him).

He also has a fundraiser (linked in his bio on Twitter) to sue YouTube, where he has raised over $96,000.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2021 • 9:55:05pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 10:06:06pm

Something something huge fookin’ winter storm and arctic temperatures kept everyone home.

Nebraska had 1,724 new coronavirus cases for the week ending Saturday, down from 3,606 the previous week. And the number of people being vaccinated increased 59%, to 87,000, for the week ending Sunday.

Nebraska sees big drop in COVID cases, surge in vaccinations (Omaha World-Herald, forty-five minutes ago)

[Gov. Pete] Ricketts again defended his administration’s decision to prioritize shots, during the state’s current vaccination stage, for people 65 and older over those with preexisting medical conditions.

The state’s data, he said, shows that age is the single biggest factor in serious or fatal cases of COVID-19, adding that many people 65 and older have preexisting health conditions.

Ricketts said that he understands the frustration of those with comorbidities, but that “we’re doing this based on risk.”

(more)

The risk being “what hurts me politically.”

Nebraska now ranks 24th in total shots administered per capita, improving from 33rd the previous week. It continues to rank particularly well in the rate of those who have received both of their shots (20th) and in rate of shot distribution (13th).

Where the state doesn’t rank so well is in the percentage of distributed shots that had been administered. That figure was 77% last week, which ranked only 45th among the states.

Ricketts said Monday that Nebraska has to do a better job on data reporting and that the state has been talking with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention about how it is reporting that information to make sure it’s accurate.

Hey, Pete, on that “do a better job reporting thing?” Maybe you ought to talk to the guy in charge (you).

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2021 • 10:16:18pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 22, 2021 • 10:17:37pm

re: #26 austin_blue

Well, night all. We’re happy. We have running water we can drink again.

The back house is still unusable except for emergency shelter and we can’t wash our clothes, but we are hardly alone in that and neighbors have stepped up and said “Use our washing machine!”

It’s a great neighborhood, we have great neighbors, and the people that run this fucking State are still just as crazy as Q-tips.

Be well.

Good that neighbors will lend you their washing machines, but people did manage somehow to clean their clothes before the machine age.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 10:25:31pm

re: #31 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Good that neighbors will lend you their washing machines, but people did manage somehow to clean their clothes before the machine age.

It did take longer and more effort though. I could loan my washboard to him if he wants to come up here and get it. /s

In the early days of the XX Century, people who lived out in places like this would pool money for a wringer washer and use it as a community machine.

As it happens, I have a wringer washer (my neighbour sold it to me when they were moving away to Arizona). It came in handy when my front-loader crapped the bed.

That beats the washboard, or a thirty-two mile round trip to a Laundromat.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 22, 2021 • 10:31:04pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Seems a lot like Moorish Science woowoo.

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EstebanTornado1963  Feb 22, 2021 • 10:37:54pm

re: #30 Belafon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 22, 2021 • 10:51:05pm

I’m off to bed, as we have to go to Scottsbluff tomorrow (another 120-mile round trip).

I’ll leave off with a nice bit of insanity from the Weekly World News.

VENDING MACHINE MAFIA EXPOSED! (February 21, 2021)

On the surface, it looks like a collection of childish whims and cheap toys all for the affordable price of a couple of coins. At its heart it is ruthless and deadly serious business. Deadly enough in fact that the name of our contact for this article has been changed in order to protect the man who finally broke his silence.

We spoke to Terrence a low level filler-ooney. (A filler-ooney is one of the people who trots around town filling the machines for their organized crime syndicate.) WWN met with Terrence at the Burger de Burgaure for an interview and some tasty fried chicken.

“It ain’t no glamour gig, but I keep food on the table and coins in my pocket” Terrence proclaims. “I got started when those little figures of people in your neighborhood were hot. At the time, I was only thirteen. I had to drop out of school just to be able to have enough time to fill all the machines. It was a gold mine back then.”

Since that time, decline in sales, turf wars and paid hits on some of the more prominent filler-ooneys have made it a dangerous job. Terrence doesn’t seem to worry about his safety much it seems.

“Yeah, it happens. You got your hands full of bouncy balls and mini puzzle cubes, and then POP! POP! POP! someone is throwing a few ounces of lead in your general direction.” Terrence giggles, “I’d quit if I could, but you get addicted to the money and lifestyle pretty quick. Do you know what it’s like to be able to splash your kids kindergarten class with thousands of bouncy balls? It’s magic baby, magic”

(more)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 22, 2021 • 11:35:27pm

So this Young Pharaoh dude was apparently born in 1993.

That means he doesn’t have the right to lecture me about shit.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 22, 2021 • 11:35:55pm

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, the wisdom of the uneducated masses in our local blog think because the dropping cases we have reached herd immunity already….

We are a nation of the poorly educated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 22, 2021 • 11:44:22pm

I was surprised to see that newsmax did a rather objective and balanced piece on the Texas energy crisis, and noted clearly that frozen wind turbines were the least of Texas’ problems.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 22, 2021 • 11:51:43pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:03:00am

For you genealogy folk who have done DNA testing (AncestryDNA, 23andMe, etc.):

MyHeritage is currently running (until 28 Feb) a promo where you can upload your DNA genotyped raw data for not cost. Included is full access to their DNA tools forever.

If your ancestry is colonial American it probably duplicates AncestryDNA’s service. However, if your recent ancestors were immigrants from the old country then MyHeritage may connect you to cousins in said old country that AncestryDNA probably won’t do, as MyHeritage has much more of a global mix of customers than AncestryDNA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:04:27am

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

For you genealogy folk who have done DNA testing (AncestryDNA, 23andMe, etc.):

MyHeritage is currently running (until 28 Feb) a promo where you can upload your DNA genotyped raw data for not cost. Included is full access to their DNA tools forever.

My ex GF did both and says that MyHeritage was the better of the two.

(PS: She found out that she is 15% Jewish)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:06:12am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mostly I ignore the ethnicity stuff. I am looking for cousins.

In regards to the ethnicity stuff, 23andMe has me pegged pretty well, and AncestryDNA put me into the correct “Communities” globally.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:07:18am

Tried to upload this image unsuccessfully, was it because I had titled it “c*nt tree roads” and that set off a block mechanism?

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:14:49am

Oh my, but the wingnuts love ACB. Enter the spoiler at your own risk.

–magayd45 8 points 15 hours ago +10 / -2
ACB is a fucking cum guzzling whore

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:18:08am

Also for you genealogy/history buffs: Rootstech is virtual this year and the virtual attendance fee is free!

rootstech.org

Say what you will about the Mormons (and we could say a lot), but they do put on a good genealogy conference. I usual find at least one technical session of use.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:18:56am

re: #44 Nyet

Oh my, but the wingnuts love ACB. Enter the spoiler at your own risk.

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Of course of three DT appointments, they picked the woman to “describe.”

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Ming5000  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:49:54am

I saw this via Kragar:

The comments are full of emotion, longing for the before times:

I miss the random 420 friends..
I remember seeing this video for the first time back in March or April and just bursting into tears.

There are parts of culture that I have missed out on.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:53:13am

re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Mostly I ignore the ethnicity stuff. I am looking for cousins.

In regards to the ethnicity stuff, 23andMe has me pegged pretty well, and AncestryDNA put me into the correct “Communities” globally.

You’re looking for cousins? You can have mine. You have to be a Christian though or they will shun you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 12:56:13am

Gaaa. I hate Oxycontin. The principle side effect it has on me is what woke me up (and why I’ve avoided taking it until tonight for my hand surgery).

It makes me itch in places no living being should ever itch. It makes me itch everywhere. Think of some of the horrible places you could itch but can’t scratch, and intensify it to something which cannot be ignored.

On the plus side, I could never become addicted to this stuff because I would itch to death first.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:05:53am

Who Funds the Federalist? Finally, We Know. (Center for Media and Democracy, December 9, 2020)

Interestingly, Mollie Hemmingway has characterised this question as “a veiled threat.”

It turns out FDRLST Media Foundation changed its not-for-profit status to 501(c)3, so their donors could get charitable tax write-offs.

That change however means the question can now be answered, as that donor information is publicly available from the IRS.

If you guessed extremely wealthy libertarians and their money foundations, which finance white supremacist organisations like VDARE and American Renissance, alleged paedophiles like Roy Moore, the Real Clear Foundation (which runs Real Clear Politics), &c.

The article linked above is a fascinating read into the web of financing between libertarians, conservatives, and white nationalist groups.

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:17:21am

Good morning from bonny Scotland:

Edinburgh woman bit off man’s tongue in street brawl before seagull swooped down and ate it

A man who had a large chunk of his tongue bitten off by a female thug was left horrified when a seagull swooped down and ate it.[…]

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Ming5000  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:34:47am

re: #51 iceweasel

OOoph… That has to make one think about different paths that could have been taken.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:38:33am

Governor Ricketts being petty, as is his wont.

When former President Trump issued a half-mast notice for anything, his press office was quick to release the same, tailored to Nebraska.

On President Biden’s half-mast notice marking respect and remembrance for a half-million people felled by Covid-19, nothing. No notice from the governor’s office.

I have issues with Biden’s proclamation (due to a government document dripping with Christian religious statements from top to bottom, along with his speech yesterday exclusive of all who are not Christians) but that isn’t what Ricketts’s issue is (Pete Ricketts is a Roman Catholic as well). The end of President Biden’s speech:

May God bless you all, particularly those who have lost someone. God bless you.

My wife lost someone in her family. By your faith, she now receives some sort of eternal punishment for the crime of not believing as you.

Interestingly, Gov. Ricketts is such a strong supporter of the death penalty (a position the Roman Catholic Church universally condemns) that he financed the statewide referendum to restore that abomination.

He justifies his position vis the Catholic Church’s position by citing Cardinal Dulles, who maintains the Church’s Fathers and Doctors of old supported the penalty to justify his own “pro-life” position (as Christianity is often the grab bag of moral philosophy).

Popes John Paul II and Francis oppose(d) the death penalty, but no Pope or Catechism is going to tell Pete Ricketts how to Catholic. But he’s going to tell everyone else how to Catholic.

But those blastocysts: They need the power of the State to support them.

Catholicism and Capital Punishment (Catholic Resource Education Center, article by Avery Cardinal Dulles)

The contortions in that article by Cardinal Dulles to justify capital punishment over the overwhelming condemnation of that practice by Catholic bishops is a marvel of pretzel logic, even within the rubric of theology.

I would argue my governor is a hypocrite, but hypocrisy is a feature of Conservative faith, not a bug. It fits right in with so many conservatives who call on the Church to expel prominent Democrats from the Church (which has already happened with Joe Biden).

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:39:02am

re: #52 Ming5000

OOoph… That has to make one think about different paths that could have been taken.

The best part is that they didn’t even know each other:

Prosecutor Susan Dickson said the pair clashed as they passed each other on Leith Walk at around 8pm on August 1, 2019.

Ms Dickson said the pair were strangers but “an argument developed” between them.[…]

I don’t quite know how you get from walking by someone to fighting and biting a tongue off, but, whatever. Maybe this is just how the kids say hello these days.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:43:58am

re: #54 iceweasel

The best part is that they didn’t even know each other:

I don’t quite know how you get from walking by someone to fighting and biting a tongue off, but, whatever. Maybe this is just how the kids say hello these days.

Are we going to have to come up with a category of “Scotland Man” to add to “Florida Man?”

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:46:35am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Are we going to have to come up with a category of “Scotland Man” to add to “Florida Man?”

In this case it’s a ‘Scotland Woman’ who did the biting and maiming, but yeah. ;)

Wasn’t there a dcumentary a few years ago called ‘Florida Man’? —always thought that would be worth seeing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:48:32am

re: #56 iceweasel

In this case it’s a ‘Scotland Woman’ who did the biting and maiming, but yeah. ;)

Wasn’t there a dcumentary a few years ago called ‘Florida Man’? —always thought that would be worth seeing.

(49:45)

Florida Man

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:50:15am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Brilliant. Thank you!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:51:41am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Are we going to have to come up with a category of “Scotland Man” to add to “Florida Man?”

Glaswegians are a class unto themselves.

Fire departments are on high alert at weekends immediately after pub closing time because it is a regular occurrence for people to then head home, start frying up some bacon and eggs and passing out while the stove catches on fire…

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:52:57am

Hehehe.

NickFury 4 points 7 hours ago +4 / -0
Mark Pomerantz is on this case? He took down Teflon Don. This is fucked up. Makes me sick to my stomach.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:53:19am

re: #56 iceweasel

Wasn’t there a documentary a few years ago called ‘Florida Man’? —always thought that would be worth seeing.

Back in the 18th and early 19th century, before there was the Wild West for all the misfits, miscreants, outcasts and fugitives to escape to, there was Florida…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 1:55:47am

re: #60 Nyet

Hehehe.

NickFury 4 points 7 hours ago +4 / -0
Mark Pomerantz is on this case? He took down Teflon Don. This is fucked up. Makes me sick to my stomach.

From what site do these comments occasionally posted here come from?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:01:19am

On the night bus from downtown Glasgow back to the housing projects on a Saturday night.

A woman carrying her little dog gets on, takes the last available seat next to a passed-out drunk. She sets the little dog at her feet. Halfway home, the drunk wakes up, bends over and pukes all over her dog.

He looks up incredulously and exclaims: “I don’t remember eatin’ that!

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:02:42am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Glaswegians are a class unto themselves.

Fire departments are on high alert at weekends immediately after closing time because it is a regular occurrence for people to then head home, start frying up some bacon and eggs and passing out while the stove catches on fire…

All this is,sadly, true. I guess an Edinburgh Kiss is when you bite the guy’s tongue off; to go with the Glasgow Kiss.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:07:12am

Dammit my bile duct and gall bladder itch. (That might be a bit of an exaggeration, but something in there itches.)

Interestingly, the pain from my hand is almost non-existent, but my friggin’ Covid-19 injection site really friggin’ hurts. (I’d rather have the pain than the itching though. It feels like someone made my pyjamas out of poison ivy fibres.)

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:19:39am

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Who is Young Pharaoh and why should I give a shit?

Don’t “tut tut”, old boy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:23:16am

re: #66 Decatur Deb

Don’t “tut tut”, old boy.

born in babylonia, moved to arizonia

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:23:33am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Back in the 18th and early 19th century, before there was the Wild West for all the misfits, miscreants, outcasts and fugitives to escape to, there was Florida…

With a good mix of escaped slaves and refuseniks from the Trail of Tears.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:26:03am

Atheist Republic’s last board member has been permabanned from Twitter. She is an ex-Christian in the United States.

AR is a worldwide group which provides outreach and support for atheists who are marginalised or threatened in their nations.

Their ex-Muslim and ex-Jew members were already permabanned by Twitter.

Atheist Republic recently expanded outreach to the United States for atheists who are harassed or threatened here, which caused her to come under attack from Christians.

Twitter offered to her the reason she was initially suspended that “atheism is hate speech.” As a result, she contacted the Better Business Bureau noting that Twitter is violating the law. The day after the BBB responded back they tried to contact Twitter and received no response from them, Twitter permabanned her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:33:46am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Twitter offered to her the reason she was initially suspended that “atheism is hate speech.”

?!?

Calling for violence against members of a religion is hate speech

Calling for people to respect the Constitutionally established separation of church and state is not.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:34:22am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

greatawakening. win and patriots. win

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:36:53am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Twitter offered to her the reason she was initially suspended that “atheism is hate speech.”

Twitter certainly doesn’t have that among the canned responses so it’s a far-fetched claim. Is there credible evidence to support it?

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:38:28am

Speaking of organized atheism, Madalyn Murray O’Hair turned out to be a Holocaust denier.

facebook.com

I added this to her wiki page too.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:40:54am

re: #73 Nyet

MMO:

The good news for the Jews of the world is that they did not lose as many of “the clan” as they had thought they lost. Central Europe was, substantially, cleared of Jews, but that was primarily through emigration. The high death rate, from starvation, in the camps during the last months of the war was due largely to the “Allied extermination policies.” Perhaps that is why the United States continues to send Israel $6 billion a year as a gift; guilt has its obligation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:40:59am

re: #73 Nyet

Speaking of organized atheism, Madalyn Murray O’Hair turned out to be a Holocaust denier.

facebook.com

I added this to her wiki page too.

and Margaret Sanger advocated euthanasia.

Therefore we should make Christianity our state religion and ban Planned Parenthood, both as an institution and as a practice…

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:41:42am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and Margaret Sanger advocated euthanasia…

Therefore we should make Christianity our state religion and ban Planned Parenthood, both as an institution and as a practice…

I hope you know it’s a non sequitur.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:42:13am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They note they aren’t going to bother any more pursuing this with Twitter or the BBB, as they view outreach on Twitter as basically a time-suck. They have to wade through hundreds of death threats and long screeds of proselytisation to find tweets which are relevant to their mission of providing support and assistance to those who are marginalised or threatened.

I can understand their position: While religious views are a protected class under civil rights law and the I Amendment, trying to go after a mammoth corporation when you’re a little not-for-profit support group is an awfully big task, and would take time away from their real mission in the USA (finding housing for minor children thrown out of their homes by parents [all sects do this here, not just Evangelicals], arranging legal representation for those threatened here for not believing the same way as someone else, &c.)

Unlike the entire Republican Party whinging about fascists, misogynists, and other assorted flavours of actual haters being thrown off the platform (their base voters), AR says they can do their work of providing aid to atheists in the USA without Twitter.

So far their Facebook pages are safe, though they’ve been banned by a number of nations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:43:08am

re: #76 Nyet

I hope you know it’s a non sequitur.

It is God’s Divine Will.
/s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:46:49am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So far their Facebook pages are safe, though they’ve been banned by a number of nations.

There are over 70 countries counties in the world that have anti-blasphemy laws or ones against “offending religious sensibilities”

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:47:49am

re: #74 Nyet

To Americans from the ’50s, MMO was the face of atheism. And she is much of the reason atheism was seen as “anti-gods”, not “without gods”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:54:05am

My wife and I were discussing the topic posed here yesterday “if you could bring back a dead musician, who would that person be?”

She told me her choice would be Tchaikovsky.

We then discussed who each of us had seen in concerts before we were married. My wife is not a crowd person, so I was surprised she actually went to any concerts at all.

She said she went to many local groups in Colorado Springs and Denver. She also saw Uncle Bonsai three times, U. Utah Phillips twice, and Bruce Springsteen. (I didn’t know she liked Bruce Springsteen. I like the fact I learn new things about my sweetie every day we are married.)

I’ve been to more concerts because crowds don’t bother me as much: John Denver (I was dragged to that one by my mother for my sister’s birthday, it wasn’t my idea), Yes three times, The Irish Rovers, Sarah Brightman, Rasputina, Rush, Juice Newton, Alabama, Bob Hope, Loretta Lynn (USO concert aboard ship), and Alice Cooper.

Since we’ve been married, we’ve only been to three concerts: The Green Mountain Homesteaders (here in my village so that wasn’t tough to get to), Shelley Segal (in Denver), and Garfunkel and Oates (in Denver)

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John Hughes  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:54:37am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the night bus from downtown Glasgow back to the housing projects on a Saturday night.

A woman carrying her little dog gets on, takes the last available seat next to a passed-out drunk. She sets the little dog at her feet. Halfway home, the drunk wakes up, bends over and pukes all over her dog.

He looks up incredulously and exclaims: “I don’t remember eatin’ that!

I don’t know which version of the story came first but I read it in Barry Humphries’ “Bazza Mackenzie” strip in Private Eye:

My favourite vignette is of him boarding a tube train very late at night, much the worse for wear from grog. He sits down opposite the only other passenger in the carriage. She is an exceedingly posh lady with a tiny, pampered Chihuahua on her lap.

The hot carriage and its swaying motion have their inevitable effect upon the inebriated Bazza. He suddenly and abruptly stands up to deliver a great technicolour yawn all over the lady and her Chihuahua. She jumps up in horror, and poor Bazza is mortified. “I’m sorry, Lady, I’m sorry Lady” he keeps saying. Then, looking down at the contents of his stomach on the floor, he spots something that puzzles him. He picks up a wriggling, chunder-smothered Chihuahua and says: “Geez I don’t remember eating that.”

andrewneaum.com

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:56:03am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

To Americans from the ’50s, MMO was the face of atheism. And she is much of the reason atheism was seen as “anti”, not “without” gods.

I think this goes to the heart of the matter— ‘atheism’ doesn’t have to mean anti-religion, just ‘without gods’— but for people who are ex-catholics, or ex-christians, or whatever, they might have an antireligious bias that atheism alone doesn’t convey or connote.
I can see an argument made for ‘antireligion’ being separate from ‘atheism’ — if that makes sense. i need more coffee!—

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 2:59:48am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

To Americans from the ’50s, MMO was the face of atheism. And she is much of the reason atheism was seen as “anti”, not “without” gods.

She’s also the reason her son is a Baptist minister.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:01:00am

re: #83 iceweasel

Plus anticlericalism. Which is much needed, IMHO - much more so than anti-religion (because religious ppl can be anticlerical too).

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:03:23am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

For pop music, I would have gone for Richie Valens, classical: Jacquelin du Pre. Both were chosen just because I liked them, though du Pre was particularly tragic—disabled by MS at 28. She and Barenboim were the power couple of the 60s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:03:29am

re: #85 Nyet

Plus anticlericalism. Which is much needed, IMHO - much more so than anti-religion (because religious ppl can be anticlerical too).

That is what I am: against religious leaders having undue influence on politics.

In fact, if I were against religion itself, I would even support a state religion that makes people associate religion with political power and not with faith in God.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:04:35am

re: #83 iceweasel

I think this goes to the heart of the matter— ‘atheism’ doesn’t have to mean anti-religion, just ‘without gods’— but for people who are ex-catholics, or ex-christians, or whatever, they might have an antireligious bias that atheism alone doesn’t convey or connote.
I can see an argument made for ‘antireligion’ being separate from ‘atheism’ — if that makes sense. i need more coffee!—

Anti-theists are all atheists; most atheists are not anti-theists.

But all of us are an existential threat: We exist amongst religious people with lower crime rates, lower divorce rates, lower incarceration rates. That is a direct repudiation of the idea you must have a text telling you how to be moral, or every sex act with your spouse must include a voyeur in your bedroom.

The usual counter-apologetics argument goes something like “you are an atheist about every god which was ever proposed except the one you believe in—I just don’t believe in yours either.”

No Christian in the United States worries about Kali-ma, possession by jinn, being reincarnated as a goat, or any other assertion of any other religious faith.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:12:13am

re: #83 iceweasel

I think this goes to the heart of the matter— ‘atheism’ doesn’t have to mean anti-religion, just ‘without gods’— but for people who are ex-catholics, or ex-christians, or whatever, they might have an antireligious bias that atheism alone doesn’t convey or connote.
I can see an argument made for ‘antireligion’ being separate from ‘atheism’ — if that makes sense. i need more coffee!—

It really doesn’t mean anti-religious, but the evangelical atheists are just the most noticeable kind. Everyone in my Army unit knew I was agnostic and it brought me no shit, even though one of my senior raters was the head of Protestant Men of the Chapel.
(One day he showed up on a Habitat site with the PMOC, to be shocked to find me on top of the truck, directing the wall drop—confused the hell out of him, since Habitat is expressly a Christian ministry.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:12:40am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife and I do have an “our song” though: Hot Rod Lincoln (2:48). That song was playing on a jukebox in a Spangles restaurant in Kansas when needed to wait a couple hours for a mechanic after our Smart threw its rear tire balance weights.

Hot Rod Lincoln Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen with Lyrics

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:16:21am

I am happy that Germany is a country in which a large share of the population are de facto atheists/agnostics who still attend church services but more out of a sense of family and cultural tradition: it is where your children are baptized, where you get married and where you hold a funeral service.

I find that church leaders still have way too much political and media influence and use it to get away with some pretty egregious scandals, but otherwise, nobody takes you to task for being an atheist.

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:18:21am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Anti-theists are all atheists; most atheists are not anti-theists.

But all of us are an existential threat: We exist amongst religious people with lower crime rates, lower divorce rates, lower incarceration rates. That is a direct repudiation of the idea you must have a text telling you how to be moral, or every sex act with your spouse must include a voyeur in your bedroom.

The usual counter-apologetics argument goes something like “you are an atheist about every god which was ever proposed except the one you believe in—I just don’t believe in yours either.”

No Christian in the United States worries about Kali-ma, possession by jinn, being reincarnated as a goat, or any other assertion of any other religious faith.

What is it to be an ‘anti-theist’, though? — does this mean believing in a god but hating it? —- i think it’s like calling someone an anti-santaist, or anti-tooth fairyist.
don’t get me wrong; i’m an atheist! but it seems to me that if you have the experience of being brought up in a certain religion, —and then disavowing it— gives one a different perspective than if they were raised atheist. A formerly religious person has an insider’s perspective on that religion.

and i would beg to differ with some of this— it seems to me that Christians in the US are VERY concerned about evil spirits, possession, their harry potter books corrupting them— etc. It’s pointless to note that they don’t worry about specific cultural anxieties, like the belief that their penis has been stolen by a witch— common in some cultures at some times, but not in every one.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:20:27am

There’s also this trend of calling critics of a religion “anti-” that religion. Like the Mormon apologists calling the books that show the Book of Mormon or the Book of Abraham were Joseph Smith’s fakes (duh!) “anti-Mormon”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:21:40am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

It really doesn’t mean anti-religious, but the evangelical atheists are just the most noticeable kind. Everyone in my Army unit knew I was agnostic and it brought me no shit, even though one of my senior raters was the head of Protestant Men of the Chapel.
(One day he showed up on a Habitat site with the PMOC, to be shocked to find me on top of the truck, directing the wall drop—confused the hell out of him, since Habitat is expressly a Christian ministry.)

The same happened to me when I was living (homelessly) in Omaha and would help out with the Metropolitan Community Church’s morning breakfasts.

Jacklyn Glenn once did an experiment where she collected money for a children’s hospital, the video of which she has on YouTube.

The first day she was collecting money on behalf of an atheist group to donate to a children’s hospital, with a friend from a United Methodist church. She got a stream of hate, accusations she was trying to steal money in the name of sick children, &c. There was no “evangelical atheism” (the phrase often used by people when an atheist says they’re one, or questions someone’s beliefs—I never heard of any atheist knocking on doors on Saturday or condemning religious people in the streets for being religious).

The second day they did the same thing except as representing the United Methodist church. Tons of “God bless,” money in the basket, &c.

The end of the experiment showed they collected more money working for the atheist group, as atheists were far more ready to donate to a good cause than Christians.

(This is also reflected in the tips Christians give to waitstaff in restaurants. No atheist ever leaves a tract disguised as money.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:31:36am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The same happened to me when I was living (homelessly) in Omaha and would help out with the Metropolitan Community Church’s morning breakfasts.

We regularly participated in the local village chapel’s Christmas presentation for children even though we were not members at all. Again, it was about community and family and holiday traditions, not religion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:32:16am

re: #92 iceweasel

What is it to be an ‘anti-theist’, though? — does this mean believing in a god but hating it? —- i think it’s like calling someone an anti-santaist, or anti-tooth fairyist.
don’t get me wrong; i’m an atheist! but it seems to me that if you have the experience of being brought up in a certain religion, —and then disavowing it— gives one a different perspective than if they were raised atheist. A formerly religious person has an insider’s perspective on that religion.

and i would beg to differ with some of this— it seems to me that Christians in the US are VERY concerned about evil spirits, possession, their harry potter books corrupting them— etc. It’s pointless to note that they don’t worry about specific cultural anxieties, like the belief that their penis has been stolen by a witch— common in some cultures at some times, but not in every one.

An anti-theist is a person who is opposed to religion (organised or not) because that person believes religion is a pernicious, dangerous, or destructive influence on society. Most anti-theists are not public figures, nor do they speak out (as they don’t want their house burned down or be fired from their jobs).

The term is dated by the Oxford English Dictionary as coming into use in 1833.

“Evangelical atheism” is also substituted with fundamentalist atheism or militant atheism, that is, having the same right to say your beliefs as everyone else, and are pejoratives only used by apologists.

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Dizzy  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:33:56am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

+2 for the Irish Rovers

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:33:58am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

An anti-theist is a person who is opposed to religion (organised or not)

No, as religion is not synonymous with theism.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:35:21am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The end of the experiment showed they collected more money working for the atheist group, as atheists were far more ready to donate to a good cause than Christians.

(This is also reflected in the tips Christians give to waitstaff in restaurants. No atheist ever leaves a tract disguised as money.)

And this is why I don’t blame you for being an atheist. Obviously, my beliefs are different, but given how completely so-called Christians have abandoned the principles of Christ in favor of their selfish and petty rituals that make them feel better about themselves, I don’t hold any animosity toward anyone who refuses to believe in the existence of such a petty and capricious God as they show.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:35:47am

re: #97 Dizzy

+2 for the Irish Rovers

Spent a long night at a couple of their sets at the Erin Isle in Chicago. Great group if you can get past that damned unicorn.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:36:56am

Also, “anti-theist” can be interpreted as “against theists”, i.e. an asshole, rather than “against theism”. Why would anyone want to call themselves that?

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:39:37am

re: #93 Nyet

There’s also this trend of calling critics of a religion “anti-” that religion. Like the Mormon apologists calling the books that show the Book of Mormon or the Book of Abraham were Joseph Smith’s fakes (duh!) “anti-Mormon”.

I guess this is my real worry. Criticising a religion doesn’t necessarily entail being ‘anti-’ that religion. but i find it worrying when people want to make it all about being ‘anti’. i think it’s often an excuse to demonize one group in particular (as with antisemitism and holocaust denial). They’re not the same, but related, i think.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:40:33am

re: #97 Dizzy

+2 for the Irish Rovers

I saw them at the Florida Theatre in Jacksonville, Florida.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:42:04am

Off to get ready for an eye check. Doc likes to see people at 0700, when I can’t remember the names of the letters on the chart. Really hate the Visual Field machine; I’m convinced it’s a psychology exam, not an eye test.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:42:25am

re: #98 Nyet

No, as religion is not synonymous with theism.

There are precious few religions which are not synonymous with theism (some Buddhists are about the only one I can think of).

Ask the Rohinga if they think Buddhism is a pernicious influence on their society (and lives).

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:42:56am

re: #102 iceweasel

I guess this is my real worry. Criticising a religion doesn’t necessarily entail being ‘anti-’ that religion. but i find it worrying when people want to make it all about being ‘anti’. i think it’s often an excuse to demonize one group in particular (as with antisemitism and holocaust denial). They’re not the same, but related, i think.

Such as, more recently, the coining of the term “antifa” to describe people who protest police brutality and the rise of American fascism. It’s not like “anti-fascist” is actually a bad thing, but the fascists are using it to try to demonize, and eventually de-humanize, their opponents. The effect it has is to make it easier to kill them, since they’re “anti-” and thus “the enemy” in the war that they created in their heads.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:44:21am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There are precious few religions which are not synonymous with theism (some Buddhists are about the only one I can think of).

Ask the Rohinga if they think Buddhism is a pernicious influence on their society (and lives).

So you admit there are some, which makes your def wrong.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:45:11am

re: #106 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Such as, more recently, the coining of the term “antifa” to describe people who protest police brutality and the rise of American fascism. It’s not like “anti-fascist” is actually a bad thing, but the fascists are using it to try to demonize, and eventually de-humanize, their opponents. The effect it has is to make it easier to kill them, since they’re “anti-” and thus “the enemy” in the war that they created in their heads.

Antifa is a self-description.
There’s nothing wrong with antifascism, there’s lots that is wrong with the antifa.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:45:21am

re: #106 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Such as, more recently, the coining of the term “antifa” to describe people who protest police brutality and the rise of American fascism.

and somehow “Black Lives Matters” is construed to imply that white lives don’t…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:46:19am

re: #102 iceweasel

I guess this is my real worry. Criticising a religion doesn’t necessarily entail being ‘anti-’ that religion. but i find it worrying when people want to make it all about being ‘anti’. i think it’s often an excuse to demonize one group in particular (as with antisemitism and holocaust denial). They’re not the same, but related, i think.

Some people who are anti-theists will identify as such but most don’t (it can be dangerous).

That’s why Eric Swalwell was able to defeat Pete Stark in his primary (and why I won’t vote for Swalwell unless I have no other choice, if he runs for higher office). Stark, openly an atheist, was painted as anti-American by Swalwell for being an atheist.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:46:53am

re: #108 Nyet

Antifa is a self-description.
There’s nothing wrong with antifascism, there’s lots that is wrong with the antifa.

I’m not going to get into it too deeply, but I will say that while it started out that way, the term was twisted by the fascists to refer to anyone that does something they don’t like. I have no comment on antifa itself, as I don’t have a clear enough definition of the self-identified group to make that judgment.

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:47:06am

re: #101 Nyet

Also, “anti-theist” can be interpreted as “against theists”, i.e. an asshole, rather than “against theism”. Why would anyone want to call themselves that?

Exactly— i’m unfamiliar with this partcular way of delineating the logical space around these questions. ‘Anti-theist’ to me just sounds like ‘asshole’, maybe with a particular animus towards a few groups.

I think it’s possible to be an atheist but not bear animus towards religion, per se. In the same way that one might be heterosexual, but bear no animus towards others who don’t identify that way.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:48:32am

Well, I have to admit that a vigorous and thought-provoking debate wasn’t what I was expecting when I sat down at my keyboard at 5:30 this AM. Morning, friendly Lizardim.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:49:01am

re: #113 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Coffee?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:52:19am

re: #107 Nyet

So you admit there are some, which makes your def wrong.

I concede the pedantic point. /s

Nevertheless, Buddhists are a danger to Rohinga (sp?) people, whether they are religious or no, with a military-run government enforcing that.

Buddhism doesn’t preclude theism however. So-called “secular Buddhism” is an American invention of the XX Century.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:53:14am

re: #114 Nyet

Coffee?

Yuck. I also have been avoiding keeping caffeine in my house, in an effort to reduce sources of increased blood pressure. Similar to why I’m trying to continue to lose weight.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:54:27am

re: #113 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Well, I have to admit that a vigorous and thought-provoking debate wasn’t what I was expecting when I sat down at my keyboard at 5:30 this AM. Morning, friendly Lizardim.

I’m going to try to go back to sleep; the itching has slowed down a bit, and I still have a trip to Scottsbluff later today.

Catch y’all later.

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Dizzy  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:55:17am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Spent a long night at a couple of their sets at the Erin Isle in Chicago. Great group if you can get past that damned unicorn.

LOVE THE UNICORN :)

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:55:33am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I concede the pedantic point. /s

Nevertheless, Buddhists are a danger to Rohinga (sp?) people, whether they are religious or no, with a military-run government enforcing that.

Buddhism doesn’t preclude theism however. So-called “secular Buddhism” is an American invention of the XX Century.

None of those points contradict the fact that anti-theism is not synonymous with anti-religion.

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:56:55am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey Anymouse— thanks for the debate, and the link to the Florida Man doc— i’m going to check that out!
good luck getting back to sleep, and i hope everything goes well for you today.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:57:26am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m going to try to go back to sleep; the itching has slowed down a bit, and I still have a trip to Scottsbluff later today.

Catch y’all later.

Good luck. Hope you get better rest than I’ve been having lately. I need stronger sleeping pills (and a real damn vacation).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:57:30am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 3:58:42am

re: #119 Nyet

None of those points contradict the fact that anti-theism is not synonymous with anti-religion.

I tend to agree with you from the simple principle that while most religions with a vague semblance of “organization” worship some form of deity, not all of them would necessarily be categorized as gods in the theistic sense.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:01:48am

re: #123 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Plus there’s always scientology.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:02:08am

re: #119 Nyet

None of those points contradict the fact that anti-theism is not synonymous with anti-religion.

to Twitter it is, and that is what launched the discussion

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Dizzy  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:02:22am

re: #118 Dizzy

LOVE THE UNICORN :)

Damn! Now I’ve got the unicorn song stuck in my head.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:03:17am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

to Twitter it is

I don’t think so. Is there evidence for this assertion?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:04:17am

re: #127 Nyet

I don’t think so. Is there evidence for this assertion?

Forget it, Jake. It’s Twitter-town.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:04:49am

re: #124 Nyet

Plus there’s always scientology.

Germany does not recognize Scientology as a religion and sees it as a threat.

To the point that the late Chick Corea, a practicing scientologist, was not allowed to play gigs at any publicly-owned venues, only private ones.

And when I worked as a teacher/tutor in Germany I also had to sign a document declaring that I was not a member of the Church of Scientology.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:05:34am

re: #128 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Forget it, Jake. It’s Twitter-town.

ok

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:06:44am

re: #127 Nyet

I don’t think so. Is there evidence for this assertion?

check AMs earlier post about Atheist Republic being banned from Twitter because they consider atheism to be “hate speech”.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:11:26am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany does not recognize Scientology as a religion and sees it as a threat.

Would be neither here nor there, if true, but:

bverwg.de

1. Die Klägerin kann für ihre Betätigung als Scientologin den Schutz des religiösen oder weltanschaulichen Bekenntnisses nach Art. 4 Abs. 1 GG in Anspruch nehmen.

13Unter Religion oder Weltanschauung ist eine mit der Person des Menschen verbundene Gewissheit über bestimmte Aussagen zum Weltganzen sowie zur Herkunft und zum Ziel des menschlichen Lebens zu verstehen; dabei legt die Religion eine den Menschen überschreitende und umgreifende (“transzendente”) Wirklichkeit zugrunde, während sich die Weltanschauung auf innerweltliche (“immanente”) Bezüge beschränkt (Urteil vom 27. März 1992 - BVerwG 7 C 21.90 - BVerwGE 90, 112 <115>).

14Das Oberverwaltungsgericht hat der Sache nach festgestellt, die Lehren von L. Ron Hubbard bestimmten die Ziele des Menschen, sprächen ihn im Kern seiner Persönlichkeit an und erklärten auf eine umfassende Weise den Sinn der Welt und des menschlichen Lebens. Es hat hierfür beispielhaft verwiesen auf die Lehren von L. Ron Hubbard über die unsterbliche Seele als Träger einer Lebensenergie, die sich durch unzählige Leben wandele, sowie über den an Erlösungsstufen erinnernden Weg zu höheren Daseinsstufen als Ziel des menschlichen Daseins.

15Das Oberverwaltungsgericht hat zutreffend angenommen, derartige Aussagen der scientologischen Lehre seien geeignet, den Begriff des Glaubens oder der Weltanschauung zu erfüllen. Unbegründet ist deshalb die Rüge der Beklagten, dem angefochtenen Urteil liege ein fehlerhaftes rechtliches Verständnis dieser Begriffe zugrunde, weil den Lehren von L. Ron Hubbard Aussagen zum Weltganzen sowie zur Herkunft und zum Ziel des menschlichen Lebens im Sinne transzendenter oder immanenter Bezüge fehlten.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:13:49am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

check AMs earlier post about Atheist Republic being banned from Twitter because they consider atheism to be “hate speech”.

Why? I asked you about your assertion that anti-theism is not synonymous with anti-religion acc. to Twitter.

What does atheism have to do with this assertion?

Also:

Twitter certainly doesn’t have that among the canned responses so it’s a far-fetched claim. Is there credible evidence to support it?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:15:41am

re: #132 Nyet

Would be neither here nor there, if true, but:

bverwg.de

Well, as recently as 2010, I had to sign a piece of paper declaring that I was not a Scientologist in order to be allowed to teach or tutor children.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:16:48am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

OK, but scientology is still a religion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:17:35am

re: #135 Nyet

OK, but scientology is still a religion.

Just one that the “established” religions in Germany see as a threat.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:18:20am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just one that the “established” religions in Germany see as a threat.

Which is neither here, nor there.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:19:09am

Meanwhile the wingnuts are still harrassing a black woman who volunteered to help with the elections.

patriots.win

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:20:10am

re: #137 Nyet

Which is neither here, nor there.

Catholicism and Lutheranism are not established churches in Germany, but pretty damn close: they have a (voluntary) church tax and enjoy a privileged legal status.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:21:15am

Thanks for the random trivia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:22:22am

re: #140 Nyet

Thanks for the random trivia.

thanks for clearing me up on the legal status of Scientology in Germany. I was under the impression that they were not recognized as a church or even a non-profit organization.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:25:38am

re: #113 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Well, I have to admit that a vigorous and thought-provoking debate wasn’t what I was expecting when I sat down at my keyboard at 5:30 this AM.

I used to do a normal 8-9 ET (7-8AM CT, ‘cuz that was my schedule when I lived in MN) - but then I had to undergo 3 weeks of hyperbaric oxygen treatments to see if I could get my hearing back, and since the only block of time the facility was open was at 6AM.

I’ve been stuck in this mode now since the treatments.

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Dangerman  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:26:51am

re: #17 🌹UOJB!

What about the butcher who backed into a meat grinder and got a little behind in his work?

deli fired a guy for sticking his dick in the pickle slicer. it was a mess!

fired the pickle slicer too. was she mad!

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:27:42am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

scientology.de

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:27:46am

re: #142 Eric The Fruit Bat

I used to do a normal 8-9 ET (7-8AM CT, ‘cuz that was my schedule when I lived in MN) - but then I had to undergo 3 weeks of hyperbaric oxygen treatments to see if I could get my hearing back, and since the only block of time the facility was open was at 6AM.

I’ve been stuck in this mode now since the treatments.

I did 7-8 AM CT until my first snowstorm when I lived in MN. That winter, I rapidly shifted my schedule to the early side. Nowadays, I usually shoot to be in the office by 6:00 or 6:30 AM CT, and I get up at 5:00 in case there’s snowfall that needs to be dealt with before I leave.

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steve_davis  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:28:01am

Jesse only comes over to observe when I’m working with Gershwin. I assume it’s moral support. Or possibly that I’m singing numbers and she thinks I’ve gone pleasantly mad. Prelude 1. I’m at the stage where I’m pretending there are 8 beats in a measure and a sixteenth note counts one. But hey, at least I’m not just guessing where stuff goes in cut time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:34:49am

re: #144 Nyet

scientology.de

I recall a big brouhaha in Frankfurt around 2000 when they wanted to open a Scientology center there over great opposition from the local authorities.

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Dangerman  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:36:57am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is God’s Divine Will.
/s

sending that to the department of redundancy department

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 4:50:24am

Oh. I missed this.

Shocking news out of Sylvania, Georgia today. Ginger Sugerman, 58, tells us that on Friday night her husband, Arnaldo “Arnie” Lerma, shot her in the face with a 9mm handgun, and then later that night turned the gun on himself and committed suicide. He was 67.

When we talked to Ginger, she was back at their home after being released from a local hospital. We spoke to her and to Lerma’s son, Joseph Fox, 24, who confirmed that Ginger had been injured and that his father had died.

Lerma was a former Scientologist who became one of the church’s fiercest critics and was a central player in Scientology’s struggles with the early Internet. It was Lerma who first posted the famous “Fishman papers,” and also helped to propagate the “Xenu” story from “OT 3” through Usenet groups. For that he was sued by the church, and his house was raided.

Lerma’s personal website became a huge repository for information critical of the church, and it made him a frequent guest of radio and television programs. His involvement in Scientology criticism decreased after the early 2000s, but his website was still a useful resource.

On July 14, 2015, Lerma married Sugerman, another former church member whose mother, Barbara Ayash, had been well known in the church for her work with the front group The Way to Happiness Foundation. We hadn’t heard from Ginger in quite a while, but Lerma continued to post things on Facebook and commented here at the Bunker just days ago.

Ginger tells us that Lerma was suffering from severe back problems, and after a second surgery, was still in great pain and was taking increasing amounts of oxycodone.

“He was miserable. He would talk about suicide,” she tells us.

Then, this week, she says that she found out that Lerma had taken money from her without telling her, leading to a row on Thursday evening.

“We had an argument over it. It just floored me. I told him I wanted a divorce and would file a civil suit. I went down to the court to get paperwork. I told him he had 72 hours to pay me back. That was the argument. He called me names, I called him names. A neighbor heard us and called the cops.”

Ginger says that at this point she became aware that Lerma was armed, and she asked the police to take his gun away. “If they’d done that this wouldn’t have happened,” she says.

The next night, on Friday, she says she was on the couch watching television when she noticed their dog’s tail begin wagging.

“That dog loved him, and that’s how I knew Arnie was coming. He walked down the hall, pulled out his gun, aimed it and click,” she says, making the sound of the gun being cocked.

“I ran, and I fell, and I was helpless on the ground. I held my hands in front of me saying I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m so sorry. No, you’re not, he said, and he just shot. And that was it.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:00:12am

As I recall, the German government’s problem with Scientology was its network of not always transparent business involvements.

This of course, would put them into competition with the established Lutheran and Catholic churches, whose business dealings as for example, involving the Bishop of Limburg’s multi-million-euro private residence, are also rather lacking in transparency.

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:05:47am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As far as I can recall, noam Chomsky said, ‘a dialect with an army is a language’— as an atheist, i’ve always thought that ‘a cult with an army is a religion’— these distinctions are quite contingent upon something just being widespread.

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:08:37am

re: #149 Nyet

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:09:10am

re: #151 iceweasel

As far as I can recall, noam Chomsky said, ‘a dialect with an army is a language’— as an atheist, i’ve always thought that ‘a cult with an army is a religion’— these distinctions are quite contingent upon something just being widespread.

That reminds me of the timeless quote I shamelessly stole from bash.org, a repository of IRC wittiness:

“Do you believe in God?”
“No.”
*BLAM*

“Do you believe in God?”
“Yes.”
“Do you believe in my God?”
“No.”
*BLAM* “My God’s dick is bigger than your God’s dick.”

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iceweasel  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:11:29am

re: #153 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I’m saving that to use later! thank you.

ok, it’s afternoon here, so i have to go— hope everyone has a great day! see you soon, fishy. :)

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:12:52am

re: #154 iceweasel

I’m saving that to use later! thank you.

ok, it’s afternoon here, so i have to go— hope everyone has a great day! see you soon, fishy. :)

Farewell *waves vaguely eastward*

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:33:18am

Like Republicans try to control women’s bodies?

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jeffreyw  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:37:37am

Good morning!

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 23, 2021 • 5:39:00am

re: #154 iceweasel

I’m saving that to use later! thank you.

ok, it’s afternoon here, so i have to go— hope everyone has a great day! see you soon, fishy. :)

Hello!
Missed her that much…

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:01:23am

Good morning folks. Los Angeles County reported less than 1000 new cases yesterday. The lowest number in many many months.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:16:46am
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:19:25am
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:19:49am
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jeffreyw  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:22:08am

re: #15 William Lewis

eh, closer to the fall of the Republic and the transition to empire. We’re arguably at the point right after the Ides of March and waiting to see if the GQP has an Octavian in the insurrectionists.

Don’t know if there is an Octavian but that Hawley has a lean and hungry look.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:22:25am

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:22:32am
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:24:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:29:05am

re: #166 Belafon

“Proof of residency and citizenship are NOT required to get the vaccine, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services”

Why is this even a thing? You can catch the disease from a non-citizen/legal resident just as easily as from a citizen…

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PrairieQueen  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:41:13am

How long will the country have to wake up to this kind of bullshit? How did these people even pass the bar exam?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:45:03am

re: #168 PrairieQueen

Texas…… Again. Go figure

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PrairieQueen  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:53:42am

re: #169 Dave In Austin

Texas…… Again. Go figure

And this prick will benefit from federal aid from what he claims is an illegitimate government.

Fuck these people in the neck.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 6:57:31am

re: #168 PrairieQueen

How long will the country have to wake up to this kind of bullshit? How did these people even pass the bar exam?

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He’s out of a job and needs a way to get on the grifter circuit.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:02:11am

the Interior Conformation for Deb Haaland hearing is on CSAN2.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:02:13am

re: #168 PrairieQueen

How long will the country have to wake up to this kind of bullshit? How did these people even pass the bar exam?

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In a similar vein…

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Teukka  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:04:55am

Meme fodder incomin’!

“Big brother gave me his HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPY D~~~UST”
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garzooma  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:08:13am

re: #12 🌹UOJB!

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I’m a historian, and I studied the fall of Rome. Here’s what life is like in a dying empire.

I got a chuckle from this line:

Are we Rome? It’s a question people in the United States have been asking for almost as long as there’s been a United States. It’s also the title of a 2007 book by Cullen Murphy, editor-­at-large of the Atlantic and—full disclosure—­my dad. […] So with the fall of Rome on everyone’s minds again, I called up my paterfamilias a few months ago to ask a variation of another age-old question: Are we there yet?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:14:38am

re: #174 Teukka

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:15:57am

re: #172 Dave In Austin

the Interior Conformation for Deb Haaland hearing is on CSAN2.

Portrait.
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Dangerman  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:16:23am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Proof of residency and citizenship are NOT required to get the vaccine, according to the Texas Department of State Health Services”

Why is this even a thing? You can catch the disease from a non-citizen/legal resident just as easily as from a citizen…

Because “free medical care” //

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:16:31am

re: #176 Dave In Austin

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Mattand  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:17:39am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

An anti-theist is a person who is opposed to religion (organised or not) because that person believes religion is a pernicious, dangerous, or destructive influence on society. Most anti-theists are not public figures, nor do they speak out (as they don’t want their house burned down or be fired from their jobs).

The term is dated by the Oxford English Dictionary as coming into use in 1833.

“Evangelical atheism” is also substituted with fundamentalist atheism or militant atheism, that is, having the same right to say your beliefs as everyone else, and are pejoratives only used by apologists.

Worth noting as well that simply saying “I don’t believe in the Christian god” in America gets you the “militant atheism” label.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:23:48am
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plansbandc  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:26:45am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m allergic to it.

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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:28:11am

re: #177 wrenchwench

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She looks so fierce…no wonder Republicans are scared of her.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:31:43am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Former coworker had a second job as a waitress on weekends until the Sunday where 5 jerks in a row left Chick tracts on her tables and no tip. She walked out and quit because she couldn’t take any more shit from Jesusbots.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:33:27am
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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:34:38am

re: #173 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

In a similar vein…

That’s that Paul Davis asshole. Sounds like he’s out of money.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:34:48am

re: #183 darthstar

She looks so fierce…no wonder Republicans are scared of her.

I don’t know much about her, but she looks smart, no bullshit, and why not? Why the hell shouldn’t a qualified NA get a cabinet position? The fucking GOP can’t even spell or punctuate, FFS.

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Dangerman  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:35:04am

re: #180 Mattand

Worth noting as well that simply saying “I don’t believe in the Christian god” in America gets you the “militant atheism” label.

They don’t do nuance well

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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:35:05am

re: #186 darthstar

That’s that Paul Davis asshole. Sounds like he’s out of money.

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Dangerman  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:35:53am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

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Generous of them

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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:36:37am

re: #187 PrairieQueen

I don’t know much about her, but she looks smart, no bullshit, and why not? Why the hell shouldn’t a qualified NA get a cabinet position? The fucking GOP can’t even spell or punctuate, FFS.

Fierce was probably a bad word choice on my part..but yeah. No bullshit, smart, focused.

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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:37:42am
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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:40:08am

And in other legaltainment news:

In re Gondor… is back now with even more dumbassery from Paul Davis.

It turns out Davis was involved in the 1/6 armed insurrection. That may be one of the reasons his clients booted him from the case. But now, Davis is seeking legal fees from his clients he represented “pro bono”.

So, not only should Davis face criminal charges from the insurrection activities, but prosecutors should be looking into his “legal practice” and state authorities move to disbar. Everything this guy is doing is in violation of Code of Professional Responsibility.

And it gets worse from there. This case is a procedural nightmare since none of the rules were followed.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:40:28am

This is so how I feel right now. How much money has the government pissed or given away without a peep? Don’t act like it ain’t there, just re-prioritize it. We have enough bombs already, okay? No to mention, that stupid fucking border wall.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:41:23am

re: #184 🌹UOJB!

Former coworker had a second job as a waitress on weekends until the Sunday where 5 jerks in a row left Chick tracts on her tables and no tip. She walked out and quit because she couldn’t take any more shit from Jesusbots.

Several Sundays ago, my Pastor was talking about this in his sermon and he warned our entire congregation NOT to do that. He straight up said people who do that have no place in our church because it goes completely against the way we should be treating others.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:42:14am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:42:21am

re: #193 lawhawk

And in other legaltainment news:

In re Gondor… is back now with even more dumbassery from Paul Davis.

Brad Heath’s take had me dying of laughter:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:43:45am

re: #194 PrairieQueen

This is so how I feel right now. How much money has the government pissed or given away without a peep? Don’t act like it ain’t there, just re-prioritize it. We have enough bombs already, okay? No to mention, that stupid fucking border wall.

The U.S. government has given most of its citizens only $1800 through this entire pandemic (coming up on a year since lockdowns and all that started).

Most other developed countries are giving their people over $1000 a MONTH.

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Teukka  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:45:50am

re: #190 Dangerman

Generous of them

What happens here is that you have something called “Prisbasbelopp” (~= Price Base Amount), from which various payouts and fees are calculated. It’s based on an initial amount and is increased according to the Consumer Price Index (CPI).
The series for the last 10 years (including current one) is 44 000, 44 500, 44 400, 44 500, 44 300, 44 800, 45 500, 46 500, 47 300, 47 600. It began with 4 000 SEK back in 1957…
Any proposal for a minimum wage is a poor one without it being locked to the CPI or something equivalent of the “Prisbasbelopp”.
Just my €.02 worth…

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:46:13am

re: #197 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Which law school did this Paul Davis Ass go to—Trump or Orly Taitz U?

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:46:29am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:48:28am
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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:51:35am

re: #197 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:52:37am

re: #200 🌹UOJB!

Middle Earth.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:54:10am

re: #203 lawhawk

If you find yourself using “lack of sleep” as an excuse for submitting a train wreck of a filing to a federal court, lack of sleep is not your real problem.

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Teukka  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:56:31am

re: #202 Dave In Austin

Noticed the discussion about the Japanese text on the guys cap, マガ (Maga). And how it relates to バカ (Baka). So it gave me the idea to make Maga synonymous with baka (or Aho). Some ideas on ways to verbally deliver “Maga” from how “Baka” is delivered:

“Baka” Compilation Anime | 2020

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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:57:44am
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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 7:59:30am

Read a great thread on the drop in infections and deaths…under 2000 on the 7 day average for the first time in 78 days.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:00:13am

re: #186 darthstar

That’s that Paul Davis asshole. Sounds like he’s out of money.

And the Bob he’s referring to, I think, is the Proud Boy who’s maybe a FBI informant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:03:38am

re: #208 darthstar

Read a great thread on the drop in infections and deaths…under 2000 on the 7 day average for the first time in 78 days.

I think as warmer weather rolls in and people are able to get out doors and space out more effectively, along with the continuing increase in vaccinations, there will be a sustained decline through spring and summer.

I think the real test will be to see how next winter will go. Though I must say, I find myself more optimistic in relation to the pandemic than I have been in some time (having a real President again certainly helps).

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:04:33am

1 in 3 Americans know someone who’s died from covid19. I figure that number increases if you’re in a densely populated state or in urban areas as compared to rural (though there are notable exceptions to that as some outbreaks were in rural areas - like around meatpacking plants and the like).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:09:51am

re: #211 lawhawk

I honestly think it’s almost 1 in 1 at this point considering all the underreporting of deaths.

I can’t think of anyone I know who hasn’t lost at least one person they care about to this thing.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:10:23am

The fact this happened is shameful.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:10:52am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

I honestly think it’s almost 1 in 1 at this point considering all the underreporting of deaths.

I can’t think of anyone I know who hasn’t lost at least one person they care about to this thing.

*raises hand*

I’ve heard of friends of friends or friends of family who have got it and died, but no one I know personally - that I am aware of - has died from COVID-19. That may be a function of my social circles being exceptionally small.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:13:56am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey, welcome to politics, Marjorie. If you didn’t want people prying into your life, maybe you should have considered sitting with your millions back in Georgia. Even local politicians have their lives inspected.

She wants everyone ELSE to be investigated, not herself.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:16:22am

re: #215 Eventual Carrion

She wants everyone ELSE to be investigated, not herself.

Just like the former president she’s emulating.

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danarchy  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:16:40am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

I honestly think it’s almost 1 in 1 at this point considering all the underreporting of deaths.

I can’t think of anyone I know who hasn’t lost at least one person they care about to this thing.

I do not personally know anyone who has died of covid. I actually only know 2 people who got it. As far as I am aware, nobody I know has lost anyone either. My mom has some acquaintances who lost family, so I guess only a couple degrees of separation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:17:22am

re: #214 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

You are very lucky. I’ve been lucky too, to a point. Most of the recent losses have been on my wifes extended family (an uncle, a cousin, a cousins husband, a great aunt). I met all those people though I wasn’t particularly close to any of them. The cousin was a cool dude though. I’ll miss him a bit.

My sister-in-laws uncle also died recently of Covid. I had also had a good friend die on 3/12/20, which was the week when the first wave of shutdowns started and everything went off the rails. He was never able to have a proper funeral. Officially, his cause of death was not Covid, but looking back on it…I wonder if it just didn’t get missed as we didn’t know a lot at that point.

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jaunte  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:18:09am
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jaunte  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:22:45am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:27:06am

re: #157 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Interesting Times  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:46:19am

Dumb LGF site question: how do you search LGF pages? If you go to the official LGF Search page, it gives you the option to search only three things:

1) Articles (i.e. front-page posts)
2) Comments for Articles
3) Comments for Pages

But how would I do a keyword search to find a particular page itself?

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danarchy  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:48:58am

Every time I watch senate or congressional proceedings on cspan I am struck by how anachronistic the whole thing is. Everywhere else we strive for efficiency and increased productivity. Yet somehow it can take the senate an hour for 100 people to cast what are invariably predetermined votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:49:29am

re: #211 lawhawk

1 in 3 Americans know someone who’s died from covid19. I figure that number increases if you’re in a densely populated state or in urban areas as compared to rural (though there are notable exceptions to that as some outbreaks were in rural areas - like around meatpacking plants and the like).

I know two people with whom I have met and interacted in real life so far: former musical colleague from AZ and my ex-GF’s father from PA.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:52:54am

And now for something completely different. Foxes laughing:

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:52:55am

re: #222 Interesting Times

Dumb LGF site question: how do you search LGF pages? If you go to the official LGF Search page, it gives you the option to search only three things:

1) Articles (i.e. front-page posts)
2) Comments for Articles
3) Comments for Pages

But how would I do a keyword search to find a particular page itself?

I’d try google search like this:

keyword site:http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/

Example.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:53:14am

I wonder what the wind-power industry will do with all the yokel radio stations and other Repug bullshit outlets they’ll end up owning once their Dominion style defamation suits are settled?

The Windbag Network, maybe?

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:53:22am

WUT

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 23, 2021 • 8:56:25am

They spent YEARS embedding themselves into the Trumpist movement.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:00:39am
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:01:54am

re: #230 lawhawk

Cassidy’s running into the problem that reality has a liberal bias.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:02:49am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know two people with whom I have met and interacted in real life so far: former musical colleague from AZ and my ex-GF’s father from PA.

A close friend was hospitalized for the disease, but I’ve been lucky and haven’t lost anyone yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:03:11am

re: #231 Belafon

Cassidy’s running into the problem that reality has a liberal bias.

beat me to it by seconds: science is the domain of elitist liberal professors, fossil fuels is where Real Men work!

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retired cynic  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:03:14am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife and I do have an “our song” though: Hot Rod Lincoln (2:48). That song was playing on a jukebox in a Spangles restaurant in Kansas when needed to wait a couple hours for a mechanic after our Smart threw its rear tire balance weights.

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Ours was “Gimme One More Last Chance” because it refers to an ol’ John Deere, and we had a flock of those that we farmed with. I could always get my hubby to dance with me when that one came on.

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nines09  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:05:51am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:06:57am

re: #234 retired cynic

Ours was “Gimme One More Last Chance” because it refers to an ol’ John Deere, and we had a flock of those that we farmed with. I could always get my hubby to dance with me when that one came on.

This was “our song”….whatever else my ex-wife and I had in the way of incompatibility, we always shared a certain taste in music:

Legendary Stardust Cowboy Paralyzed

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:07:26am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife and I do have an “our song” though: Hot Rod Lincoln (2:48). That song was playing on a jukebox in a Spangles restaurant in Kansas when needed to wait a couple hours for a mechanic after our Smart threw its rear tire balance weights.

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It’s not a song, but something like this is part of the reason why Mrs. Fish and I are Pokemon Go addicts. One summer, driving back from fish country, I pulled into a gas station in El Paso, IL, to top up on fuel and check the oil before getting on the freeway. Damn good thing I did; I popped open the hood, and the upper radiator hose was swollen to approximately 1.5 times the diameter of my upper arm. If we had wound the engine up to 70 mph on I-39, it would’ve blown wide open and probably taken the whole engine with it. There was a Ford dealer literally right next door where I stopped and had them flush the system and replace both hoses. We wound up spending like 6 hours in El Paso, and we walked the kiddos around the town, catching Pokemon while we waited. We got home really late, but we had a good time.

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danarchy  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:07:44am

re: #225 lawhawk

And now for something completely different. Foxes laughing:

Why isn’t there a bigger market for domesticated foxes as pets? Apparently after just a couple generations of selective breeding they can be as docile as any house pet.

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jaunte  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:10:58am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:11:54am

If Haaland was a white dude, he would have been confirmed a week ago.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:12:40am

re: #239 jaunte

Because it’s trying to let Washington officials - Trump, Cruz, Hawley - off the hook.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:12:50am

re: #235 nines09

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:13:25am

re: #238 danarchy

Why isn’t there a bigger market for domesticated foxes as pets? Apparently after just a couple generations of selective breeding they can be as docile as any house pet.

Why You Shouldn’t Get A Fox As A Pet. No Matter How Instagram Friendly They Are

Has to do with the fact that wolves are social animals, whereas foxes are more solitary.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:13:31am

re: #238 danarchy

Why isn’t there a bigger market for domesticated foxes as pets? Apparently after just a couple generations of selective breeding they can be as docile as any house pet.

There are probably laws against breeding them in some countries. If it was legal, breeders would be doing it in American to get rich.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:13:56am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why You Shouldn’t Get A Fox As A Pet. No Matter How Instagram Friendly They Are

Has to do with the fact that wolves are social animals, whereas foxes are more solitary.

Cats are mostly solitary.

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jaunte  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:14:17am

Lankford, throwing up lots of smoke around the delay in getting the National Guard activated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:15:00am

re: #245 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Cats are mostly solitary.

that was just the first result of a cursory google search, have not read the article inasmuch as I have no interest in pets of any kind…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:15:26am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why You Shouldn’t Get A Fox As A Pet. No Matter How Instagram Friendly They Are

Has to do with the fact that wolves are social animals, whereas foxes are more solitary.

This is a good reason not to have them as pets.

‘Foxes smell.’ She said to Bored Panda. ‘Bad. Their urine and faeces smell like skunk mixed with ammonia. There is no way to ‘de-scent’ a fox.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:16:12am

re: #232 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I haven’t lost anyone I know. It has left me miserable and, I fear, alienated. I couldn’t feel a thing when Biden made his speech last night. That worries me.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:16:42am

re: #217 danarchy

I do not personally know anyone who has died of covid. I actually only know 2 people who got it. As far as I am aware, nobody I know has lost anyone either. My mom has some acquaintances who lost family, so I guess only a couple degrees of separation.

Like you, I do not know personally anyone who died of covid; my closest connection is an acquaintance who lost his brother but I had never met him. I know a few people who recovered from the disease, only one of whom was hospitalized.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:18:54am

They can be made friendly, but are still poor pets.

Why domesticated foxes are genetically fascinating (and terrible pets) (PBS)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:19:26am

re: #249 Sherlock Hound

I haven’t lost anyone I know. It has left me miserable and, I fear, alienated. I couldn’t feel a thing when Biden made his speech last night. That worries me.

It is just finally beginning to wear on me. I got through last year just fine, but since Christmas, things are really unravelling.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:20:14am

re: #245 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Cats are mostly solitary.

But foxes typically cannot be housebroken.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:26:11am

re: #226 Nyet

I’d try google search like this:

keyword site:littlegreenfootballs.comExample.

Thanks for the tip. Helped me find some pages I posted ages ago under my old nick.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:32:44am

re: #119 Nyet

None of those points contradict the fact that anti-theism is not synonymous with anti-religion.

I use apatheist to describe my faith or lack thereof. To me, questions about gods or not is of no importance. I don’t care. And might well be anti-theist if I thought there were gods or a god.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:33:27am
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Dangerman  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:35:28am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210221 edition ———————->
“Back to Normal”

Here’s an index of all the postings in #thegreatpoolpondconversion

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jaunte  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:35:29am

So Sund lets a sergeant control what intelligence he receives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:37:15am

re: #255 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I use apatheist to describe my faith or lack thereof. To me, questions about gods or not is of no importance. I don’t care. And might well be anti-theist if I thought there were gods or a god.

I have always been terribly interested in questions of religion and faith but have not believed in any sort of religion since I abandoned being a Catholic ages ago (cannot say that I ever really believed, I just went along until I was seven years old)…

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darthstar  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:41:37am

re: #209 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And the Bob he’s referring to, I think, is the Proud Boy who’s maybe a FBI informant.

Nobody could have predicted the FBI would court informants within terrorist orgs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:44:36am

re: #260 darthstar

Nobody could have predicted the FBI would court informants within terrorist orgs.

The FBI is on a political witch hunt!!!

/

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:55:06am

re: #223 danarchy

Every time I watch senate or congressional proceedings on cspan I am struck by how anachronistic the whole thing is. Everywhere else we strive for efficiency and increased productivity. Yet somehow it can take the senate an hour for 100 people to cast what are invariably predetermined votes.

It’s all for soundbites. Everyone has to get their 15 second bite whick takes longer than 15 seconds to come by.

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piratedan  Feb 23, 2021 • 9:58:54am

re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

although these types of hearings let you know who is really a serious public servant and who is doing populist public art. This is unfettered, uncut viewing opportunitiees to see what public representatives know what they are doing. I can forgive someone not being as polished a public speaker, but when they’re uninformed or misinformed, that’s really kind of unforgivable and you can tell which people have done their homework and which ones are just beating off (like our less than distinguished Senator from Wisc.)

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Feb 23, 2021 • 10:00:06am

Needs more stilsuits & crysknives

Sure, sure, it looks good NOW - but wait a few years, as Melange is over-prescribed, and next thing, there’ll be “Spice Mills” springing up all over Appalachia, where desperate addicts hock their stilsuits & crysknives to get just another whiff …

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Feb 23, 2021 • 10:00:52am

Also, having Sting fight you to the death is pretty much a standard side-effect of basically anything these days, so meh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 23, 2021 • 10:02:20am

re: #265 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Also, having Sting fight you to the death is pretty much a standard side-effect of basically anything these days, so meh.

not to mention what will happen if there is a winter storm and the mining equipment freezes up

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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2021 • 10:02:32am

re: #251 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They can be made friendly, but are still poor pets.

Why domesticated foxes are genetically fascinating (and terrible pets) (PBS)

I love dogs…. I’m not fond of dogs with keening personalities or behavior . Foxes have keening pack behavior x100 towards their humans.

And then they get spots.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 23, 2021 • 10:02:47am

Have these dumbasses ever tried lighting an ice cube on fire? SNOW IS JUST FROZEN WATER YOU DUMBSHITS.

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gocart mozart  Feb 23, 2021 • 10:21:12am

re: #17 🌹UOJB!

I stole your pun


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