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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 24, 2021 • 9:14:36pm

It’s midnight and I’m on the phone with my son as he makes his vaccine appointment. I’m the driver.

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thecommodore  Feb 24, 2021 • 9:17:59pm

CL’d

re: #93 thecommodore

Close ally of Marjorie Taylor Greene among those in Capitol mob

Greene and Aguero have worked closely together over the years on causes such as immigration and the border wall and have attended pro-Trump rallies together. In many since-deleted videos saved by CNN’s KFile, Greene repeatedly calls Aguero “amazing” and a “friend.” On social media, Aguero has called Greene “one of my closest friends.”

“A message was sent,” Aguero said in the video streamed live on January 6 while walking away from the Capitol on Pennsylvania Avenue following the riot. “These politicians are not going to continue to get away with the abuse as they’ve been doing. We will continue to press on these individuals.”

“The National Guard has just been called in,” he continued. “A woman was shot in the face earlier. There was blood all over the floor. I recorded it for y’all. I could not go live during the whole event because the signal was either jammed purposely or there was just too many, too many people out there. Guys, I was able to make it inside the chambers and I have footage that I’m going to provide for you guys as we made our way in there.”

Congress held its first hearing on the Capitol riots on Tuesday, in which law enforcement officials testified the attacks were likely coordinated.

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2021 • 9:28:14pm

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s midnight and I’m on the phone with my son as he makes his vaccine appointment. I’m the driver.

I’m getting my first Phizer shot tomorrow afternoon. My GP doctor’s office called me today to ask if I wanted an appointment.

Yes, I said.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 24, 2021 • 9:28:39pm
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austin_blue  Feb 24, 2021 • 9:33:32pm

re: #4 Dread Pirate Ron

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Are *ALL* of these people center-left, often *well* to the left…

of the IQ Bell-curve?

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austin_blue  Feb 24, 2021 • 9:42:03pm

Night all.

GOP delenda est, and let’s start with Stephen Miller.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 24, 2021 • 9:58:09pm

hi

There was discussion in the previous thread about stories about the Covid vaccines having a stronger reaction on the second shot over the first, with some claiming these are anecdotal and really don’t prove anything.

As it turns out, I posed that question to the doc at the VA when I got my second Moderna vaccine Monday.

The doctor pointed out the second dose is a booster, and such inoculations are intended to elicit a stronger response than the first shot, and that’s how all multi-shot vaccines work.

The reason for the stronger reaction is the first shot has primed the body’s immune system to create antibodies for the virus the vaccine targets. Thus the booster should elicit a stronger response, because the body should be primed by the first shot to recognise the proteins the vaccine replicates.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 24, 2021 • 10:03:15pm

On first jobs in the previous thread, my first job was as a delivery boy for the Detroit Free-Press when I was fourteen. The pay for that was a few cents for every paper delivered to one customer.

My route was about three miles long and had about fifty customers.

My second job was the Navy.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Feb 24, 2021 • 10:15:29pm

I’ve noticed that since inauguration day I’ve had to block almost as many “progressive” unicorn hunters bitching about how horrible and useless Biden is as I have had to block Redhats and Al Qaren operatives.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 24, 2021 • 10:28:54pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Feb 24, 2021 • 10:58:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 24, 2021 • 10:58:43pm

More waste of taxpayer time and money. Sanctuary laws, but for guns.

Hopefully LB 188, “The Second Amendment Preservation Act” will die a crib death in committee.

LINCOLN — Gun rights advocates expressed fears Wednesday that their rights were in jeopardy because of the election of President Joe Biden and a promised push in Washington to address gun violence.

“We’re at a dangerous point of losing our constitutional rights,” said Anthony Arnold of Ashland.

Quick! Joe Biden is a popular president, and even won an electoral vote in Nebraska! Gin up some more fear about guns!

Most backers voiced worries about losing rights to hunt, participate in shooting sports or the ability to protect themselves. But the sponsor of the proposal said his main goal would be to block the confiscation of guns, ammunition or accessories in the event the president or Congress made such a move.

While State Sen. Steve Halloran [wingnut party] of Hastings said he was unaware of any current federal moves to do that, he described his “Second Amendment Preservation Act” as “an effort to anticipate something happening.”

The bill would block the National Guard, State Patrol, or county sheriffs from enforcing any new restrictions on gun rights (restriction being defined as any law a wingnut doesn’t like).

Other senators on the Legislature’s Government, Military and Veterans Affairs Committee expressed doubts about the power of states to supersede federal laws, and about whether Legislative Bill 188 was even necessary.

Haven’t the courts already upheld Americans’ rights to hold and bear arms, asked Bellevue Sen. Carol Blood [sane party].

“What are we trying to fix that’s broken?” she said.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:04:54pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

But wait, there’s more!

A second bill heard by the Government Committee on Wednesday would give counties the power, by ordinance, to allow their citizens to carry concealed firearms without a permit.

Such “constitutional” or “permitless carry” is allowed in about 18 states, including Kansas, Missouri, Wyoming and South Dakota. Gordon Sen. Tom Brewer said his LB 236 would allow Nebraska counties to decide, enhancing local control.

Sgt. Aaron Hanson of the Omaha Police Officers Association testified in favor of the bill, saying that metro areas, as well as Sand Hill counties, could decide what’s appropriate.

I don’t understand why a police officer would want permitless concealed carry. I would think that would make police officers’ jobs more dangerous. To use a wingnut example, criminals aren’t going to follow laws. If law-abiding citizens have a concealed carry permit for a handgun, it helps sort out law-abiding gun owners from criminals.

If you equalise the criminals (by not requiring a permit for a law-abiding owner), it makes the police officer’s job harder.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:08:05pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

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I think one theory I’ve seen floated is right, spiking Tanden’s nomination is Manchin’s ask to support the Relief Bill. He can BS all he likes about how “it’s not personal,” but it’s obvious he still holds a grudge.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:09:24pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

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Trump showed that you can run a government (into the ground) without getting approval for your Cabinet appointments. Before he gained confidence through the realization that his power was essentially unbound, he did put his appointments through the normal process, but once Barr became AG, Trump realized that no one was going to stop him from any action he chose to take.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:20:06pm

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

“Empty G”

Hahahaha. That’s a good one, but not as good as “Klan of Green Gables”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:24:46pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oops forgot the link to the article: omaha.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:27:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:31:23pm

The “pro-life party”:

Not those lives in the back seat of the car, though.

The small “l” libertarians are weighing in about excessive government overreach and erosion of freedom to horrify onlookers as they see a child catapulted out of a windscreen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:34:24pm

Nation writer David Klion excoriates the Tanden nomination from the left:

I am not a fan of Neera Tanden—the head of the Center for American Progress (CAP), and President Joe Biden’s nominee for director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB)—and to the best of my knowledge, the feeling is mutual. This doesn’t make me special. Ask any number of leftist writers who spend a lot of time on Twitter about Tanden, and they’ll tell you the same stories: how she announced plans to fire the unionized employees of CAP’s affiliated website, ThinkProgress, and to replace them with scabs (ultimately she just shuttered the site following public backlash); how she allegedly hit a colleague, future Bernie Sanders campaign manager Faiz Shakir, for daring to ask Hillary Clinton about her support for the Iraq War; how she named a victim of workplace sexual harassment in a staff meeting; how she pressured critics of Israel at ThinkProgress, bowing to the demands of pro-Israel lobbyists; how she accepted tens of millions in donations to her ostensibly progressive think tank from Wall Street, Silicon Valley, insurance companies, and the autocratic regime of the United Arab Emirates; how she once suggested compelling Libya to use its oil wealth to pay the United States for its 2011 regime change operation. And that’s to say nothing of the many times Tanden has tried to bully or intimidate journalists (such as The Week’s Ryan Cooper, or me) for writing accurate sentences about her, or complained to managers or editors about comments that she didn’t appreciate—not to mention her open contempt for Sanders and his millions of supporters.

As her own mother acknowledged to The New York Times, Tanden “can be very aggressive.” Personally, I would not have selected her for a powerful position in the executive branch, and the news that her appointment may fail to pass Senate confirmation gives me and many of my peers a fair bit of schadenfreude.

But he is not a fan of the reasons she is being attacked: her vicious but accurate tweets, most of which are directed at Republicans. After all, who here would object to her calling McConnell “Moscow Mitch” and “Voldemort”? The author didn’t seem to realize that Manchin wasn’t really standing up for his Republican colleagues but for his daughter.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:44:04pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The bill would block the National Guard, State Patrol, or county sheriffs from enforcing any new restrictions on gun rights (restriction being defined as any law a wingnut doesn’t like).

A well-regulated militia is what, again?// Funny, but regulated is the first part of the second amendment. Second part basically says, “Everybody can have guns.” Actually, for how goddamned smart these founding fathers were, that sentence is written like shit.

And I am sick to death of worshiping the founding fucking fathers as infallible clairvoyants, because they weren’t, and there is no way they could be. Upon closer inspection, many were as failed and fallible and human as any other mortal.

The founding fathers could not see the future. They had no idea what a bunch of tactical gunhumpers the country would host. They’d probably never heard of a school shooting or a random mass shooting, and assumed any attempt to storm the nation’s capitol would be met with deadly force (it wasn’t). They were still hard from giving the British the finger. Slavery and indigenous peoples? Women’s rights? Ha, as if. Infallible? Hardly.

So here we are, and everybody gets their guns, including crazy people, and they aren’t part of a well-regulated anything. And yet, we’re supposed preserve the sanctity of often outdated texts the same way idiots cherry-pick the Old Testament.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2021 • 11:58:16pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The bill would block the National Guard, State Patrol, or county sheriffs from enforcing any new restrictions on gun rights (restriction being defined as any law a wingnut doesn’t like).

And Arizona wants to pass a bill allowing the State Legislature to overturn any election results it doesn’t like.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:05:23am

re: #21 PrairieQueen

A well-regulated militia is what, again?// Funny, but regulated is the first part of the second amendment. Second part basically says, “Everybody can have guns.” Actually, for how goddamned smart these founding fathers were, that sentence is written like shit.

And I am sick to death of worshiping the founding fucking fathers as infallible clairvoyants, because they weren’t, and there is no way they could be. Upon closer inspection, many were as failed and fallible and human as any other mortal.

….

You and me both. Hate this worship of mostly slave holders as though they had the answer to everything. Their design of the government and the rights accorded states and individuals was a good, but very flawed, start. We have certainly learned from the Trump regime how flawed it remains after over 2 centuries of tinkering with the Constitution. The persistence of the Electoral College, the poison of gerrymandering, and the determined efforts to suppress voting rights, all legal under the Constitution, will ultimately destroy us all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:08:20am

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

…The persistence of the Electoral College, the poison of gerrymandering, and the determined efforts to suppress voting rights, all legal under the Constitution, will ultimately destroy us all.

And the notion of an open southern border with masses of immigrants crossing it to perform menial labor was also not considered or even conceived of by our Founding Fathers.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:09:19am

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Arizona wants to pass a bill allowing the State Legislature to overturn any election results it doesn’t like.

This, and voter suppression, are the tools these traitorous fucksticks will use to overthrow any election whose results they wish to change. It is imperative every law abridging the rights of voters is overturned, and quickly. It is also crucial to criminally prosecute any person that tries to overthrow results of an election, and swiftly, or democracy loses.

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ericblair  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:12:42am

Now that the Putin regime knows that Amnesty can be bullied, this will be the first of many political U-turns.

Navalny has said a lot of nasty nationalist shit in the past. Not anymore, but I assume he’s still a Russian nationalist in the way Putin isn’t. Putin doesn’t give a shit about any resident of Russia besides himself, so he’s very egalitarian that way, but he’s quite happy to support fascist parties all over the world if they suit his purposes.

Navalny is not a tool of the West. He’s Russian, and in the (IMO) unlikely event that he gained political power he’d advance Russian interests, though without all the corruption and invading neighbors, most likely.

His history was well known before now, but Amnesty got what they know was a coordinated troll attack to discredit him, and Amnesty just then decided that Navalny broke their rules and gave in. I assume that the Ukrainians and Syrian White Helmets are next.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:15:28am

re: #25 PrairieQueen

This, and voter suppression, are the tools these traitorous fucksticks will use to overthrow any election whose results they wish to change. It is imperative every law abridging the rights of voters is overturned, and quickly. It is also crucial to criminally prosecute any person that tries to overthrow results of an election, and swiftly, or democracy loses.

We have to be reminded that had it not been for a record number of votes and a clear popular majority, Trump might well have pulled off an EC victory, or if it had only come down to one or two disputed states, he might have won it through the courts.

Let us also not forget that despite an overall majority of votes cast for Democratic Senators and Representatives, that the Democrats have only the thinnest of majorities in the Senate.

We cannot let the New Normal just be a replay of the Old Normal

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:16:42am

Former faculty advisor to Omaha’s Westside High School newspaper. He resigned rather than follow orders of the school board to spike a student’s article because the school board disagreed with the student’s political position.

(edited to put in correct tweet)

As a result of his resignation, State Senator Adam Morfeld (D-Legislative District 46, part of Lincoln) introduced Legislative Bill 88 (PDF), which would prohibit school boards or other officials from restricting the freedom of speech or press of students over political opinions (with limited exceptions, such as illegal content). The bill covers all press output (traditional newspapers or newsletters, school blogs, radio and television, &c).

Lining up against it: Republican-controlled school boards. In favour: Democratic-controlled school boards, students, and parents.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:18:13am

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

fixed to put in correct tweet

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:20:54am

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Former faculty advisor to Omaha’s Westside High School newspaper. He resigned rather than follow orders of the school board to spike a student’s article because the school board disagreed with the student’s political position.

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(edited to put in correct tweet)

As a result of his resignation, State Senator Adam Morfeld (D-Legislative District 46, part of Lincoln) introduced Legislative Bill 88 (PDF), which would prohibit school boards or other officials from restricting the freedom of speech or press of students over political opinions (with limited exceptions, such as illegal content). The bill covers all press output (traditional newspapers or newsletters, school blogs, radio and television, &c).

Lining up against it: Republican-controlled school boards. In favour: Democratic-controlled school boards, students, and parents.

Good to see the whole party’s on the same page about that whole opposition to “cancel culture,” eh?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:31:28am

“American Girl Magazine” (published by the doll company) printed an article about children who sometimes need foster parents and why that is necessary.

Christian bigots came howling out of the woodwork because American Girl’s article featured a same-sex couple.

X of Utah Outcasts weighs in on the issue; caution for coarse language and calling out religious bigots (13:36)

SHOCKER! Christians Angry About American Girl Dolls

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:39:39am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This all goes back to the RW doctrine that homosexuality is “unnatural”, and since homosexuals cannot propagate, the only way they spread is by “recruiting” innocent heteros, especially impressionable children.

This is the basis of a lot of anti-gay legislation in places like Russia, where homosexuality is not banned outright, just “spreading homosexual propaganda” and “corrupting youth”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:46:12am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This all goes back to the RW doctrine that homosexuality is “unnatural”, and since homosexuals cannot propagate, the only way they spread is by “recruiting” innocent heteros, especially impressionable children.

This is the basis of a lot of anti-gay legislation in places like Russia, where homosexuality is not banned outright, just “spreading homosexual propaganda” and “corrupting youth”.

And behind that is the Christian doctrine that says “you can’t be moral unless you do things the way we tell you that you have to do them.”

LGBT people don’t recruit. Religions recruit. Christians are fine with all the murder, rape, and slavery in the Bible. If the New Testament is to be believed, Jesus was conceived by child rape, which might be why so many churches cover it up and oppose banning child marriage in the United States.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:51:27am

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And behind that is the Christian doctrine that says “you can’t be moral unless you do things the way we tell you that you have to do them.”

And they cling to the notion that America is God’s Chosen Country but our “special relationship” with him will be endangered unless we shape our laws to reflect (their own narrow-minded interpretation of) His Divine Laws.

Which is why we cannot have abortion or gay marriage or socialized medicine or legal weed or nipples on TV, etc., or God will feel compelled to open up a big can of Smite and whup it on us.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 12:59:46am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And they cling to the notion that America is God’s Chosen Country but our “special relationship” with him will be endangered unless we shape our laws to reflect (their own narrow-minded interpretation of) His Divine Laws.

Which is why we cannot have abortion or gay marriage or socialized medicine or legal weed or nipples on TV, etc., or God will feel compelled to open up a big can of Smite and whup it on us.

Plus God keeps punishing the Bible Belt with hurricanes, tornadoes, and lately a deep freeze because of Teh Geyhs and abortion.

God must have pretty bad aim (though the abortion rate and out-of-wedlock births are far higher amongst Christians than it is amongst atheists, so maybe not).

I don’t believe I ever heard of a tornado striking a gay pride parade, but lots of churches have been demolished.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:02:04am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t believe I ever heard of a tornado striking a gay pride parade, but lots of churches have been demolished.

If one ever did, we would hear no end of it

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:10:36am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This all go backs to the RW doctrine that homosexuality is “unnatural”, and since homosexuals cannot propagate, the only way they spread is by “recruiting” innocent heteros, especially impressionable children.

This is the basis of a lot of anti-gay legislation in places like Russia, where homosexuality is not banned outright, just “spreading homosexual propaganda” and “corrupting youth”.

That horseshit totally ignores the theory that one or more of the genes that contribute to male homosexuality, are likely on the X chromosome, passed by women not men, and appear to result in increased fertility in those women who carry it.

But that would require… thought…. reading… good faith discussions.

Can’t have that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:15:50am
AUSTIN, Texas — The Department of Homeland Security wants troops to remain at the U.S.-Mexico border for at least the next three years, its officials told the Government Accountability Office during a review of the Pentagon’s mission there.

“DHS anticipates needing at least the current amount of [Defense Department] support for the next three to five years, possibly more,” stated the 90-page report titled “Southwest Border Security: Actions Are Needed to Address the Cost and Readiness Implications of Continued DOD Support to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.”

The ongoing mission is approved through Sept. 30, which is the end of fiscal year 2021, with about 3,600 troops now serving in support of Border Patrol, according to the Defense Department.

Since President Joe Biden took office in January, he has rolled back some of former President Donald Trump’s border actions, including the national emergency declared at the border in February 2019. That declaration and other Trump memos served as the Pentagon’s basis for approving Homeland Security’s support requests, according to the report.

(more)

Troops at U.S.-Mexico border could stay there for three to five years, report says (Stars & Stripes)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:21:39am

Gory details about my not-very-well recovering hand behind the hide bar.

It has been eight days. My right hand is still bleeding, and it still looks like Mitch McConnell’s hand.

I’m supposed to have the stitches out next Wednesday, but I don’t know what happens if it doesn’t stop bleeding. Blood is still being forced under the skin well up to my elbow.

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ericblair  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:22:45am

So Amnesty tries to walk it back. Nice job destroying your reputation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:26:36am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Further down in the Stripes article, the Department of Defense responded to the government that any problem at the border is really Homeland Security’s problem, not theirs, and the DOD does not want to build an impression that it has some sort of border mission. They also note they are below strength on personnel and being on the border takes away from the DOD’s primary mission.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:29:33am

re: #40 ericblair

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:43:51am

YouTube atheist college student and counter-apologist Unholy Sara had her home outed by her local newspaper, the doxxing information which they also posted on their Faceborg page.

She notes the Faceplant articles before and after the one doxxing her got no comments.

The one about her got over six hundred comments, some supportive but most carrying threats of hell, death threats, rape threats, the usual things that happen to atheists when they are outed in the community in the United States.

(16:36)

Wow, These People Really Hate Me

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ericblair  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:54:46am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He is still considered a political prisoner by Amnesty, just not a prisoner of conscience. Problem with Internet and social media is we too often neglect to find out what is being written or said on something, and react based on first emotion, i.e. pretty blindly.

Not quite. From the statement from Amnesty,

They pulled his prisoner of conscience designation after a concerted pressure campaign from the Russian government. His old statements were well known; nothing had changed but the fact that they got bullied. And guess what the Russian media is saying, of course?

Apparently the head of Amnesty also got tricked by a prank call from well-known Russian radio jocks/government cutouts, pretending to be one of Navalny’s aides. All Amnesty has is credibility, and they managed to blow a lot of it on this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 1:59:09am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Part of the issue here is she is also trans, which gins up the Christian hatred.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 2:09:37am

Opening with a scene of a murderous guinea pig, John Oliver has a segment on meatpacking (18:41)

Meatpacking: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 2:10:20am

Navalny’s old shit is bad, but most of it (some of his tastless edgelord jokes aside, which were quite typical for the Russian internet culture back in the day tho) doesn’t come close to, say, Pamela Geller or even old LGF.

Notably, Katya Kazbek, who denounced Navalny on Twitter, is commie scum.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Feb 25, 2021 • 2:20:26am

I’m headed off to bed. G’night.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 2:35:13am

...

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 2:41:11am

These fuckers are insane.

equitablemath.org

Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction

Center Ethnomathematics

White supremacy culture shows up in math classrooms when…
The focus is on getting the “right” answer.
Instead…
The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false, and teaching it is even much less so. Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as well as fear of open conflict

• Classroom Activity: Challenge standardized test
questions by getting the “right” answer, but justify
other answers by unpacking the assumptions that
are made in the problem.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 2:46:18am

Got forbid the dreaded objectivity will get perpetuated!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 2:52:14am

re: #50 Nyet

These things happen.

I suspect, and it is only a suspicion, that the real problem is educational institutionalism and hasn’t anything to do specific with mathematics as an abstract concept.

Let’s face it - most math instruction isn’t that good, at least at the grade school level and even into middle school.

I remember at most one good math teacher in my 12 years of primary education. And I’m using “good” relatively as the other memories I have of the other math classes are sort of negative.

re: #51 Nyet

I also think that activist groups like the one you share lack a bit of philosophical depth. These kind of groups are reactive, responding to larger social problems.

Technically, I do agree that the teaching of math is not objective, because I think education as a whole is a human activity by which we conform children to our current social norms.

Mathematics as a discipline is pretty rigid, and the philosophy of mathematics is pretty obtuse. Arguments over the reality of numbers, for example.

In the end, what works works, so to speak, for us humans. If a society finds itself falling apart because, for example, no one remembers how to build bridges, then obviously a failure can be so critical that the society can end.

I also think that almost all of what we think of as necessary for things being “right” is a pretty recent invention. In the 200k years or so that our species has been an identifiable population, it’s only the past couple of thousand years that we’ve even had a sizable share of said population work with abstract disciplines like mathematics.

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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:16:01am

general answer to the op q is “when most people have been vaccinated “

so re florida maybe another year at this rate

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Nojay UK  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:19:38am

re: #50 Nyet

Parody site.

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iceweasel  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:22:20am

re: #51 Nyet

hey sergey— found this this morning, thought you’d be interested:
Woman Accused of Stealing Nancy Pelosi’s Laptop Appears in Video Making Nazi Salute

It’s bellingcat, and a long read, but highly interesting about the antisemitic freaks and nazis she’s been linked to. Worth a look!
bellingcat.com

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:22:30am

re: #54 Nojay UK

Parody site.

If only.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:22:53am

re: #55 iceweasel

Great! Thanks for the heads-up.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:34:17am

Morning Lizardim.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:34:23am

re: #50 Nyet

Funny thing is, in “Stride” 4 they had to acknowledge that there is “correct” math thinking and there are misconceptions and errors (duh). Which is obviously what one cannot get around when teaching math. So what was the initial mumbo-jumbo all about?

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:39:07am

re: #26 ericblair

How’s about this justification from Amnesty:

“He cannot be a prisoner of conscience: that is someone who never advocates hate or violence or uses hate speech,” Mr Artemev argued, adding that Nelson Mandela had also been stripped of the status in the 1960s after advocating the use of force against the apartheid regime in South Africa

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:41:53am

re: #60 John Hughes

How’s about this justification from Amnesty:

They’re really not doing themselves any favors by mentioning they did the same thing to Nelson Mandela. Yikes.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:42:47am

re: #60 John Hughes

Interesting! Didn’t know.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:43:22am

re: #61 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

They’re really not doing themselves any favors by mentioning they did the same thing to Nelson Mandela. Yikes.

I can respect the consistency, if not the decisions.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:45:29am

re: #63 Nyet

I can respect the consistency, if not the decisions.

I’ll grant them that, but yes, my point was on the outcome of the decisions themselves. Not a super good look there.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:45:55am

re: #59 Nyet

Funny thing is, in “Stride” 4 they had to acknowledge that there is “correct” math thinking and there are misconceptions and errors (duh). Which is obviously what one cannot get around when teaching math. So what was the initial mumbo-jumbo all about?

And just if you wonder, yes, stuff from this group is being taught in real schools.

A Pathway to Math Equity Micro-Course
Are you or your Professional Learning Team looking for a deeper dive into equity work? Our friends at the Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction are offering a virtual micro-course beginning February 25, 2021, titled “Pathway to Math Equity Micro-Course 2.0: Valuing and elevating student discourse in the math classroom.” The course consists of five synchronous sessions.

In this online course, educators will learn key tools for engagement, develop strategies to improve equitable outcomes for Black, Latinx, and multilingual students, and join communities of practice. View the micro-course flyer and register here. For information about “A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction,” visit equitablemath.org.

content.govdelivery.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:49:06am
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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:49:10am

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The “pro-life party”:

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Not those lives in the back seat of the car, though.

The small “l” libertarians are weighing in about excessive government overreach and erosion of freedom to horrify onlookers as they see a child catapulted out of a windscreen.

I would not wear a lap belt in a back seat. my understanding has always been that is a good way to wind up paralyzed after a wreck. better off back there just bouncing around. now my new car has full seat belts back there. I would wear that.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:50:30am

So I was a bit premature in announcing this the other day, but the NY Times has made it official: Boeing is calling for all airlines to ground their 777’s equipped with Pratt and Whitney engines.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 3:53:21am

re: #68 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

As a note, it says that only the 777 uses the PW4000 engine. That is true; I mentioned that the 747 Freighter that blew an engine over Maastricht in the Netherlands has a derivative engine of the same family, but not identical to, the large-diameter PW4000’s. The NY Times article helpfully mentions that most 777’s are powered with GE’s GE90 engines.

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BlackPearl  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:01:30am

Hey, long time no see! I took… a long time off after November 2016 (but continued financially supporting the site). I return bearing a sighting of the Chuck Johnson who CHARLES IS NOT, hanging out with Rohrabacher offering Assange a pardon in return for saying Russians didn’t hack the Democrats.

(If the crappy redhead is no longer allowed to be mentioned, please tell me and I apologize in advance.)

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:03:19am

re: #70 BlackPearl

Charles discussed it yesterday.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:05:27am

re: #44 ericblair

Not quite. From the statement from Amnesty,

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They pulled his prisoner of conscience designation after a concerted pressure campaign from the Russian government. His old statements were well known; nothing had changed but the fact that they got bullied. And guess what the Russian media is saying, of course?

Apparently the head of Amnesty also got tricked by a prank call from well-known Russian radio jocks/government cutouts, pretending to be one of Navalny’s aides. All Amnesty has is credibility, and they managed to blow a lot of it on this.

I consider them a typical organizationn like the U.N., with everything done by committee, meaning pretty much everything gets bolloxed up. Anyone ever seen a war or conflict in a movie fought with U.N. forces that doesn’t involve lots of generals saying stuff like “our rules of engagement don’t actually allow us to rescue the village full of women and children about to be slaughtered”?

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:08:30am

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

Thank you, Jennifer!! Shame on Manchin for playing along with the charade.

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BlackPearl  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:11:35am

re: #71 Nyet

Thank you!

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:11:57am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So Facebook allows doxxing? Alrighty then.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:12:23am

re: #51 Nyet

Got forbid the dreaded objectivity will get perpetuated!

There was a highschool math teacher in 1967-68 who loudly quit, in the classroom, saying “Mathematics is the nazification of the intellect”. Seemed a little harsh, even for 1968.

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:17:33am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He is still considered a political prisoner by Amnesty, just not a prisoner of conscience.

Nitpicking.

Of course they didn’t consider Nelson Mandela a “prisoner of conscience”.

Quakers. Ptff.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:41:28am

re: #76 Decatur Deb

It must have been a tough haul in 2968, to declare mathematics a nazification of anything.

Even today activists shy away from that.

But yet again, I will maintain that all these social-angst tidbits arise out of our fundamental existential problem (our finite lives, of which we are aware), and the unwillingness to accept that we really are only animals.

Not only will we personally go extinct, but our society will, and then our entire species will.

It’s a dim outlook… but that is what we face.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:42:22am

Meanwhile something happening in Armenia.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:53:01am

While I admire people who want to pursue education for education’s sake, at some point we all reach (eventually, perhaps some more than others) the end of what is actually useful to our fellow humans and their society. I fear that has happened to some involved in the educational enterprise itself.

The group Sergey linked may mean well (in their own minds anyway), but I have yet to see any issue in the American hegemonic-Euro education system that isn’t manifested somewhere else. If all one has is a hammer then everything looks like a nail, etc. So if one is concerned about LatinX students in the US, any problem can be cast as a White Supremacist dominating the LatinX student. (I’m not denying the reality of white supremacism in the US. Rather, white supremacism seems like an oddly specific charge to bring against math education.)

All the basic issues that organization laments can be found in Japan, for example. Out-groups are stigmatized, the hegemony of the state-social beliefs crush local cultures, etc. E.g., if a student is a “half” (meaning not fully Japanese), they will be stigmatized by some of their fellow students and possibly even staff.

You can go anywhere in the world and find group A dominating group B, including in the educational establishments of group A.

This is what we do as humans. We are an aggressive ape, bent on dominating anything and everything.

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jeffreyw  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:57:41am

Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2021 • 4:59:52am

re: #80 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Note someone said above that Sergei’s stuff came from a “parody” site. There is still a bit of bullshit woo-thought out there that holds disciplined teaching as elitism.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:02:43am

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Note someone said above that Sergei’s stuff came from a “parody” site.

I guess it’s still hard for some people steeped in rationality to believe that something so dumb is real.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:06:22am

A counter-aphorism from the 50s-60s: “Education is an inherently hierarchic process.”

When a teacher gushes “I love teaching, I learn so much from my students”, my first thought is “Then you should be paying them 25 Large each year.”

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:09:21am

re: #83 Nyet

I guess it’s still hard for some people steeped in rationality to believe that something so dumb is real.

When a literate person can’t tell it’s a joke, that’s Joke Fail.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:14:11am

A friend in the food biz dropped 5 lbs of expiring mushrooms on our porch. I am tasked to rummage the attic and find the dehydrators. BBL

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:15:15am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

When a literate person can’t tell it’s a joke, that’s Joke Fail.

And vice versa. When Nojay thought this site was a parody, this was a confirmation of how bad it really was.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:15:59am
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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:19:55am

The problem with such “programs” is not that they exist but that they’re taken seriously by people who should know better. In this case by Oregon DoE. Moreover, that nonsense was sponsored by the Gates foundation.
🤷

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:25:13am

re: #54 Nojay UK

Parody site.

re: #82 Decatur Deb

See:

The Math Equity Toolkit (A pathway to equitable math instruction)

and

scoe.net

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:25:26am

Gotta love it.

Newsweek reached out the Gates Foundation, asking if it agrees with those assertions and asking it to explain their exact meaning. The group confirmed the donation but was unavailable to comment further.

newsweek.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:25:54am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

YouTube atheist college student and counter-apologist Unholy Sara had her home outed by her local newspaper, the doxxing information which they also posted on their Faceborg page.

She notes the Faceplant articles before and after the one doxxing her got no comments.

The one about her got over six hundred comments, some supportive but most carrying threats of hell, death threats, rape threats, the usual things that happen to atheists when they are outed in the community in the United States.

(16:36)

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Well suck me dry and call me Dusty. Guess who’s home town rag that is? Yep mine. The Times-News of Twin Falls, Idaho. Looks like I need to try and look this gal up. Thanks for posting this AM.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:41:37am

My feeling is that educators who work in a bubble (with other educators) fail rather remarkably in reaching out to the populace outside of academia.

There are exceptions, of course. There are a few college profs here and there who excel at public outreach. But they are a small minority.

The uncomfortable truth that the Math Equity proponents skirt is that one can’t unscramble an egg.

By which I mean: if a parent, or a society, or a school fails a student in their early years, educators later (whether a couple of years later in middle school, or high school, or community college) can only patch over the damage.

This may seem harsh and even cruel of me, but time cannot be undone. A child is only age 5 for a single year, for example. In that year her brain will develop and that development sticks. 10 years later you can’t go back and undo that, you can only try to remediate any damage that was done.

So if a child was failed in their mathematics instruction at age 7, some community college math instructor is going to have a hard time helping that student comprehend quantitatively what their fellow students who were privilidged at age 7 can do.

This is a very tough thing to accept. Educators like to think they are helpers, and they are. But we each are much more destined by early childhood experiences than is commonly preached.

It’s not really genetics that determines quantitative ability or mathematics (which is a language), but early childhood. Sure, many people try to find genetic determinism for these things, the the evidence appears to show only a weak influence of genetics for these things.

As a society we suffer a lot from the lack of attention given to early childhood problems. How many social ills could be reduced if only we helped families with young children more?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2021 • 5:54:10am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As a society we suffer a lot from the lack of attention given to early childhood problems. How many social ills could be reduced if only we helped families with young children more?

“Round the guttersnipes up”.
WKRP’s greatest hire—the child psychologist

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A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:03:25am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sweet piece for a sweet harpsichord:

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..

There was a discussion about what musician folks would bring back from the dead.

J.S. Bach would be my choice. My favorite composer. I’d love to have heard him perform.

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mmmirele  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:19:35am

Worth a read…this was part of the background of my teen years. And this shit STILL goes on!

Texas’ oldest Black university was built on a former plantation. Its students still fight a legacy of voter suppression.

Jayla Allen was her family’s third generation to attend Prairie View A&M University. She inherited a battle for voting rights in Waller County extending before her grandfather’s time at the Southeast Texas college.

texastribune.org

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:24:55am

re: #44 ericblair

Not quite. From the statement from Amnesty,

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They pulled his prisoner of conscience designation after a concerted pressure campaign from the Russian government. His old statements were well known; nothing had changed but the fact that they got bullied. And guess what the Russian media is saying, of course?

Apparently the head of Amnesty also got tricked by a prank call from well-known Russian radio jocks/government cutouts, pretending to be one of Navalny’s aides. All Amnesty has is credibility, and they managed to blow a lot of it on this.

We humans have a nasty tendency of attacking the people whose only power is credibility, rather than keeping our focus on the people with real power.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:26:28am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:28:57am

Oh Jesus. The crazy “In re Gondor” lawsuit, that has now been re-filed as a class action with separate defendants because the original defendants fired the inimitable Mr. Davis, was the brainchild of… wait for it… JEROME FUCKING CORSI. Read this thread.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:29:52am

re: #98 Dave In Austin

Scaremongering over brown-skinned people is one of the core planks of the contemporary Republican party platform.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:30:09am

re: #84 Decatur Deb

A counter-aphorism from the 50s-60s: “Education is an inherently hierarchic process.”

When a teacher gushes “I love teaching, I learn so much from my students”, my first thought is “Then you should be paying them 25 Large each year.”

Well, I’m kind of glad someone decided to teach their children how to make tools.

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mmmirele  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:34:27am

re: #98 Dave In Austin

You don’t even know how many times I get on to Twitter and that’s what I want to say. However, I restrain myself and usually go with “stick a gross of socks in your festering gob”. Yeah, it’s not much restraint.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:35:18am

re: #102 mmmirele

#NFTG

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:38:59am

Another day, another Asshole Karen.

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:42:02am

re: #50 Nyet

The thing is:

There are actual Nazis who were close to the government of the United States of America. Who are not so far from getting back to that position.

Who, with their not Nazi, but authoritarian, friends are plotting to get back into power in two years.

And you’re all bent out of shape shape over some well meaning but powerless fools.

Why?

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:45:55am

Mornin’ everyone. This is actually a pretty good read about Cleta Mitchell.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:46:43am

Fat Donny’s tax returns were just released

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:48:23am

re: #107 Dave In Austin

Fat Donny’s tax returns were just released

Oh the joy knowing he can’t Twitter On The Shitter!

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:48:25am

re: #107 Dave In Austin

Fat Donny’s tax returns were just released

Now he can honestly say he’s under some form of audit.

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:49:31am

re: #80 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

, but I have yet to see any issue in the American hegemonic-Euro education system that isn’t manifested somewhere else.

So if sin is universal one should do what?

Just shut up because it’s “human nature”?

Well, it isn’t. It’s part of human nature.

Yes, right wing authoritarian traits (per Altemeyer) exist in all societies, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight against them, even if some of the people fighting miss their targets.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:52:26am
Cleta Mitchell was born Cleta Deatherage

Welp, I know what my next barbarian character’s name will be.

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 6:56:56am

re: #67 steve_davis

now my new car has full seat belts back there. I would wear that.

cars have had full back seatbelts in Europe for at least 40 years, with mandatory wearing since around 30 years.

And this is nuts:

my understanding has always been that is a good way to wind up paralyzed after a wreck. better off back there just bouncing around.

If you’re in the back seat in a crash with no restraints you don’t “just bounce around”, you go crashing through the windshield, snapping the necks of the front seat passengers as you go.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:01:27am

Fuck Politico

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:04:37am

re: #105 John Hughes

The thing is:

There are actual Nazis who were close to the government of the United States of America. Who are not so far from getting back to that position.

Who, with their not Nazi, but authoritarian, friends are plotting to get back into power in two years.

And you’re all bent out of shape shape over some well meaning but powerless fools.

Why?

Em, what does one has to do with another? Are you alright?

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:07:31am

Fuck Marjorie Taylor Greene.

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:09:03am

re: #114 Nyet

Are you alright?

Yes, thank you.
Where did that come from?

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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:09:10am

you have to remember they’re just not very bright guys….

Standing on the Capitol steps on Jan. 6, Richard Michetti allegedly took a break from the rioting to argue with his ex-girlfriend over text message. After sending photos and videos of the mob and boasting how he had avoided tear gas, Michetti parroted Donald Trump’s false claims of election fraud,” the Washington Post reports.

Texted Michetti: “If you can’t see the election was stolen you’re a moron.”

“The next day, the woman he had insulted promptly told the FBI that her ex was at the Capitol, handing over to law enforcement the string of texts, photos and videos he had sent to her.”

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:11:16am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Your writing on the topic sounds exactly like the ivory tower types you claim to be arguing against. David Hilbert and Albert Einstein didn’t attend special schools just for them, and yet somehow they ended up being the ones who excelled at using math. I am far better at math - and I suck at parsing sentences, by the way - than people I know whose parents paid for tutoring when they were young, even though I went to schools with far less resources. And you can’t explain our last president, who grew up in a wealthy family but only seemed to have learned how to con people.

The biggest flaw in our education system is that it assumes everyone learns the same way - Listen to the teacher, do a few practice problems, and test - and that everyone interacts with the world the same way. But the difference between my brother and me completely disproves that. My brother is not the “sit down and work through problems” type, and was never going to grasp the parts of math that require that. Our education system needs to take that into account.

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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:11:28am

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:11:53am

re: #111 Sufficient unto the day…

Welp, I know what my next barbarian character’s name will be.

Drop the middle “e” in the last name.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:13:31am

Could be weeks, but will probably be a couple of months…

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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:13:50am

re: #118 Belafon

The biggest flaw in our education system is that it assumes everyone learns the same way

an effective teacher knows how to present the same material at least 3 different ways

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:14:21am

re: #116 John Hughes

Yes, thank you.
Where did that come from?

From the place where your “not as bad as” fallacy stuff came from?

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PrairieQueen  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:15:38am

re: #115 darthstar

Fuck Marjorie Taylor Greene.

The kinda POS that face to face, I’d call her a See You Next Tuesday. Because she 100% is. If ever anyone deserved that moniker, it’s her. And goddamnit, she’s ugly too.

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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:16:30am

re: #124 PrairieQueen

The kinda POS that face to face, I’d call her a See You Next Tuesday. Because she 100% is. If ever anyone deserved that moniker, it’s her. And goddamnit, she’s ugly too.

and her mother dresses her funny?

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:17:00am

re: #121 darthstar

Could be weeks, but will probably be a couple of months…

So if not by Easter maybe by Mother’s Day. The thing is, Vance won’t take too long to file charges. They’re not investigating him just because it’s entertaining. There is a cost involved and other criminals to investigate.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:19:48am

re: #124 PrairieQueen

The kinda POS that face to face, I’d call her a See You Next Tuesday. Because she 100% is. If ever anyone deserved that moniker, it’s her. And goddamnit, she’s ugly too.

@rschooley on Twitter greenscreened the poster for those who like to play.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:19:55am

re: #125 Dangerman

Never paid much attention to her clothes. Militant Karen Soccer Mom Just Got Home From The Gun Range, IIRC?

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:21:41am

re: #127 darthstar

She’s deliberately pulling this shit because she wants to be expelled.

Christians love to whine about being a martyr for Jay-Zuss!

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:21:58am

re: #118 Belafon

And far too often we, as a society (and I’m not always immune to this), judge way too many people by how far up the education ladder they made it or just by how much money they have made. It really should be entirely based on the work they do, and how well they do it.

I constantly remind myself that I pay others to take care of my garbage because I couldn’t do it.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:28:40am

This woman is one of my favorite journalists. And her reporting is almost always spot on.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:31:46am


Just

It’s scary to see this kind of crazy… [Sauce: Reddit]
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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:33:39am

re: #104 🌹UOJB!

Ugh. This is what it looks like when mind viruses collide and recombine in empty heads. This has been the claim about Michelle Obama. Now that another strong black woman is in charge, of course they automatically begin to say that about her, without thinking.

PS: this is also what it looks like when Stephen King’s characters come to life.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:35:45am

ABC had a chyron this morning stating that McConnell opposes Pelosi’s call for an investigating commission into the insurrection because it would be partisan. And the answer is that yes, it will be because only one party participated in it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:36:07am

Welp all the little pecan pie hamantaschen that I made for Purim (which happens tonight and tomorrow) are already eated so I have to bake more.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:36:21am

re: #132 Teukka

Here it is: patriots.win

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:41:55am

re: #136 Nyet

The stupid never stops. No doubt in my mind my brainwashed relatives post to that page.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:42:30am

re: #118 Belafon

Well, then, let me expand:

The equity-folk are trying to address situations like this: a native-Spanish speaking youngster gets put into an English speaking math class. She does poorly because she doesn’t understand the teacher as well as her fellow students. So she tests not as well. By emphasizing test scores (being “right”) a reification happens that she is not good at math, but the real problem is a language barrier.

This can happen even in English speaking math classes with a student whose native language is nominally English but whose language abilities have been stunted. The quantitive abilities of said student aren’t going to be addressed by the teacher as well if the teacher doesn’t take into account the language ability.

Regarding Einstein and Hilbert: personality types are important when it comes to these sort of skills and professions. Whatever their other childhood experiences, both of those ended up interested in highly technical, abstract fields. BTW, Einstein was not as sharp in math as some may suppose. His math professor Minkowski is the one who brought the heavy lifting to Relativity.

Hilbert and Minkowski came from the same part of the world. Both were privileged to enroll in highly academic institutions (something which the vast majority of people in the world at the time did not.)

The world is not fair. “Equity” is not a common thing in a society. Many people have accomplished great things without formal education, and a great many people without formal education end up doing not much in their lives.

While I think the Equity Math people stumble over their agendas, I do not doubt that there is a fundamental skew in our society that continues to propagate societal advantages of a long dominant group (European ancestry) over particular other groups (of darker skin.)

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:42:32am

re: #136 Nyet

Here it is: patriots.win

Dammit. I clicked. 👀
Lawdhavmercee! Lawd! Have! Merceeeeeee!
NSFS (Not Safe For Sanity) tier crazy…

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:43:19am

re: #137 🌹UOJB!

The stupid never stops. No doubt in my mind my brainwashed relatives post to that page.

Believe it or not, in that swamp those are actually “moderates”. They still generally dislike Q. If your relatives are Qucks, they’re probably over at greatawakening.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:45:14am
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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:46:34am

re: #134 Belafon

ABC had a chyron this morning stating that McConnell opposes Pelosi’s call for an investigating commission into the insurrection because it would be partisan. And the answer is that yes, it will be because only one party participated in it.

this is true
and everyone knows it

however the response should be:
it will not be partisan
it will elicit facts and those facts will speak for themselves

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:46:35am

re: #140 Nyet

And the Qucks at GA usually speak of the “patriots” site (formerly TheDonald) with disdain, describing them as blackpilled and doomers.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:47:14am

re: #142 Dangerman

this is true
and everyone knows it

however the response should be:
it will not be partisan
it will elicit facts and those facts will speak for themselves

“The Nuremberg trials were not fair, why were the Nazis not among the judges?!”

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:49:53am

re: #138 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I do not doubt that there is a fundamental skew in our society that continues to propagate societal advantages of a long dominant group (European ancestry) over particular other groups (of darker skin.)

I don’t disagree with the idea that we push a European-centric view of the world, but the mathematics would still be the same if any version of humanity pursued any kind of technological progress. Prime numbers, quarks, and Fermat’s theorem still exist even if they are in Indian, Chinese, or Spanish.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:52:01am

re: #141 Belafon

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:54:08am

re: #141 Belafon

I had a dream last night about losing my mask and getting yelled at by someone for being without it, and scrambling to try and find it.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 7:55:16am

re: #145 Belafon

I don’t disagree with the idea that we push a European-centric view of the world, but the mathematics would still be the same if any version of humanity pursued any kind of technological progress. Prime numbers, quarks, and Fermat’s theorem still exist even if they are in Indian, Chinese, or Spanish.

There are some cultural aspects to maths one can think of but they pertain to the form rather than content. Our use of the Hindu-Arabic numerals, the terminology that we use, our choice of the numeral system, our definition of infinite sums etc. etc.
But if we took e.g. Cesaro summation as our “default” way of assigning values to infinite sums, rather then what we currently use, or if we used the non-Euclidean geometry by default, our current default choices would still be available, “out there”, just expressed differently, but delivering the exact same results as they do now.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:00:09am

re: #136 Nyet

Here it is: patriots.win

Take heart: “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:02:40am
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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:03:38am

Meanwhile the Russian prof. Matveev, who denies the Holocaust, has been fired from yet another university.

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I wonder if the usual suspects will cry “cancel culture” lol.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:06:07am

re: #149 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Take heart: “Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”

Does this mean that God is taking this here option against them? Image: tenor.gif

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PrairieQueen  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:18:05am

Another day, another crazy armed asshole amongst us. Possibly a car thief, but last I checked nobody needs a bomb to boost a car.

Yeah, what a dick.

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A Cranky One  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:18:15am

Should be a cat…

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:21:01am

re: #141 Belafon

English speakers make great play over English’s tendency to “borrow” words from other languages.

A case could be made that English has to to that because Anglophones are not very inventive.

(-10 points to the first person who replies with something about dark alleys).

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:21:13am

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PrairieQueen  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:27:00am

re: #156 Dave In Austin

And fuck the poor if they can’t afford one.//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:28:56am

re: #146 Teukka

Fun fact: the covid crisis has produced over 1200 new words in German over the past year. Personal favourites are coronamüde (tired of covid) & Impfneid (envy of those who have been vaccinated).

My favorite is Impfschleicher (someone who sneaks their way into the line to get vaccinated) just because it contains a cluster of seven (count ‘em) consonants in a row.

“1200 new words” is also misleading as German allows you to combine almost any two (or more) existing words to make a new one.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:35:14am

re: #26 ericblair

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Now that the Putin regime knows that Amnesty can be bullied, this will be the first of many political U-turns.

Navalny has said a lot of nasty nationalist shit in the past. Not anymore, but I assume he’s still a Russian nationalist in the way Putin isn’t. Putin doesn’t give a shit about any resident of Russia besides himself, so he’s very egalitarian that way, but he’s quite happy to support fascist parties all over the world if they suit his purposes.

Navalny is not a tool of the West. He’s Russian, and in the (IMO) unlikely event that he gained political power he’d advance Russian interests, though without all the corruption and invading neighbors, most likely.

His history was well known before now, but Amnesty got what they know was a coordinated troll attack to discredit him, and Amnesty just then decided that Navalny broke their rules and gave in. I assume that the Ukrainians and Syrian White Helmets are next.

Or maybe they’re feeling burned after what happened with that other great humanitarian symbol and prisoner of conscience, Aung San Suu Kyi.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:40:09am

re: #50 Nyet

These fuckers are insane.

equitablemath.org

I once froze on a question in a test and couldn’t come up with the solution BUT was awarded 24 out of 25 points because I had set up the correct equations and almost all the intermediate steps. So getting the right answer there was less important than showing my understanding of the process.

There are problems in mathematics that don’t have a “right” solution. But not among those typically taught in elementary school.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:40:38am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“1200 new words” is also misleading as German allows you to combine almost any two (or more) words to make a new one.

This. The concept is pretty useless when it comes to German, so wortneuschöpfbereit* it is.

* A “non-existent” word if you google for it, and yet it will be understood by Google Translate.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:42:54am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

I once froze on a question in a test and couldn’t come up with the solution BUT was awarded 24 out of 25 points because I had set up the correct equations and almost all the intermediate steps. So getting the right answer there was less important than showing my understanding of the process.

Your correct equations were a part of the right answer; the answer may not have been *complete*, but that’s another issue. OTOH, 2+2=4 (in base 10), never 5. There’s only one right answer.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:47:48am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

I once froze on a question in a test and couldn’t come up with the solution BUT was awarded 24 out of 25 points because I had set up the correct equations and almost all the intermediate steps. So getting the right answer there was less important than showing my understanding of the process.

I wasn’t so lucky. I had the Algebra Teacher From Beyond Hell in 8th grade who loved to scream and yell at me right from the start. Left me with math anxiety that still requires me to use a calculator whenever numbers are involved.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:48:39am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:49:08am

re: #81 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:50:25am

re: #162 Nyet

Your correct equations were a part of the right answer; the answer may not have been *complete*, but that’s another issue. OTOH, 2+2=4 (in base 10), never 5. There’s only one right answer.

PS: also, in even slightly complex tasks merely giving the correct number at the end, without the solution steps, will usually (at least in Russia and some other countries, hopefully also in the US) result in zero points. So it’s already a part of the teachers’ understanding that it’s the solution that counts together with the answer. It’s not, however, the “right answer” those particular pomo woo-woo peddlers mean.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:51:06am

re: #166 Nyet

PS: also, in even slightly complex tasks merely giving the correct number at the end, without the solution steps, will usually (at least in Russia and some other countries, hopefully also in the US) result in zero points. So it’s already a part of the teachers’ understanding that it’s the solution that counts together with the answer. It’s not, however, the “right answer” these particular pomo woo-woo peddlers mean.

Not usually zero points in the US, but most problems state, “Show your work,” and a failure to do so - even with a correct result - will result in a deduction.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:52:11am

re: #167 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Not usually zero points in the US, but most problems state, “Show your work,” and a failure to do so - even with a correct result - will result in a deduction.

Rightly so.

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nines09  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:53:26am

re: #81 jeffreyw

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re: #165 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Western good morning!

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:54:02am

re: #159 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Or maybe they’re feeling burned after what happened with that other great humanitarian symbol and prisoner of conscience, Aung San Suu Kyi.

The whole problem is that “prisoner of conscience” is a stupid idea — it means “someone who was unjustly imprisoned who a Quaker can support”.

They should be fighting against unjust imprisonment, not unjust imprisonment for people who are whiter than snow.

This whole thing didn’t start because of Aung San Suu Kyi, it started because Quakers were unhappy supporting Nelson Mandela who called for violence against the Apartheid state.

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jeffreyw  Feb 25, 2021 • 8:57:55am

re: #169 nines09

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:03:25am

re: #129 🌹UOJB!

She’s deliberately pulling this shit because she wants to be expelled.

Christians love to whine about being a martyr for Jay-Zuss!

She’s irritated that she cannot serve on committees and interrogate witnesses with the same dumb questions and speeches as Ron Johnson or Jim Jordan. She probably wonders why they allowed to be considered full members of their respective bodies when she isn’t. Which is a totally valid question.

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:06:59am

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

She’s irritated that she cannot serve on committees and interrogate witnesses with the same dumb questions and speeches as Ron Johnson or Jim Jordan. She probably wonders why they allowed to be considered full members of their respective bodies when she isn’t. Which is a totally valid question.

She’s in full grifter mode and lots of brainwashed assholes are sending her cash because she stands up for Jay-Zuss. She’s crying all the way to her bank while she buys a couple more certificates of deposit and T-Bills!

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:07:43am

re: #155 John Hughes

English speakers make great play over English’s tendency to “borrow” words from other languages.

A case could be made that English has to to that because Anglophones are not very inventive.

(-10 points to the first person who replies with something about dark alleys).

Hybridization almost always creates something stronger than the originals. English is an excellent example of the effect; a hybrid of welsh, dutch, german, norse, french and latin.

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:10:44am

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

She probably wonders why they allowed to be considered full members of their respective bodies when she isn’t. Which is a totally valid question.

Do you think she’ll ever work out it’s because they regard her as subhuman?

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:10:47am

re: #174 William Lewis

Hybridization almost always creates something stronger than the originals. English is an excellent example of the effect; a hybrid of welsh, dutch, german, norse, french and latin.

And thanks to being the language of the common folk for centuries (while the elites preferred Norman French) it also has a relatively simple grammar compared to so many other languages, a big plus.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:13:36am

re: #145 Belafon

I don’t disagree with the idea that we push a European-centric view of the world, but the mathematics would still be the same if any version of humanity pursued any kind of technological progress. Prime numbers, quarks, and Fermat’s theorem still exist even if they are in Indian, Chinese, or Spanish.

The movie “Stand and Deliver” showed that a great teacher can transform students who were abandoned by the establishment into accomplished practitioners of mathematics. There really are serious flaws in how math is taught in this country — flaws that hamper our nation’s ability to compete in the modern world. Well, that and the focus on Ayn Randish economics which lead to brilliant physicists working in finance instead of science.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:16:06am

re: #176 Nyet

And thanks to being the language of the common folk for centuries (while the elites preferred Norman French) it also has a relatively simple grammar compared to so many other languages, a big plus.

English makes up for its simplicity of grammar with being impossible to spell or pronounce, even to people who grow up with it.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:16:31am

re: #176 Nyet

And thanks to being the language of the common folk for centuries (while the elites preferred Norman French) it also has a relatively simple grammar compared to so many other languages, a big plus.

I’d love to see some examples of “language of the common folk” producing “relatively simple grammar.” I would argue rather that “commonly spoken by people to whom the language is not native,” leading to pidgins, creole, and Mandarin Chinese, would be more of a factor.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:17:14am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

English makes up for its simplicity of grammar with being impossible to spell or pronounce, even to people who grow up with it.

There’s that. Tho no language is immune from this.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:20:32am
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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:20:46am

re: #163 🌹UOJB!

I wasn’t so lucky. I had the Algebra Teacher From Beyond Hell in 8th grade who loved to scream and yell at me right from the start. Left me with math anxiety that still requires me to use a calculator whenever numbers are involved.

i took calculus my first semester at college
wasn’t sure i needed it but ‘everybody took it’ was the advice i got
i was totally lost at sea the entire time. clueless through lectures, labs, exams.
(i was honors math in high school so it was a bit of a blow first semester and all)
not sure if i passed. probably not.

year and a half later transferred to another school
now i needed calc for my major so I tried it again

very early on, one day it clicked.
like a light switch. i still remember it. a true aha moment.

i had it.
and i knew it.

different teacher
different book
different approach
maybe the different surroundings helped too

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:25:01am

re: #179 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Do you mean then that it’s rather the Norman French language that resulted in the simplification of the English grammar?

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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:26:28am

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

The movie “Stand and Deliver” showed that a great teacher can transform students who were abandoned by the establishment into accomplished practitioners of mathematics. There really are serious flaws in how math is taught in this country — flaws that hamper our nation’s ability to compete in the modern world. Well, that and the focus on Ayn Randish economics which lead to brilliant physicists working in finance instead of science.

—————-

Jaime Escalante: …Did you know that neither the Greeks nor the Romans were capable of using the concept of zero? It was your ancestors, the Mayans, who first contemplated the zero. The absence of value. True story. You *burros* have math in your blood… A negative times a negative equals a positive. Why?

[the whole class looks at him blankly; he sighs deeply and shakes his head]

Jaime Escalante: We’re gonna need a lot of Kleenexes - there’s gonna be a lot of bloodshed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:26:32am

re: #180 Nyet

There’s that. Tho no language is immune from this.

Finnish and Hungarian, although nearly impossible for their grammar, are both entirely phonetic.

Megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért is pronounced “Megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért” and not “throat-warbler mangrove”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:27:40am

The Amnesty International news pisses me off so much.

My grandmother worked for Amnesty for years (retired mid-90s). My brother and I used to love coming to get her at the office because all her coworkers seemed so cool (and inevitably, some of them gave us cookies).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:28:25am

re: #183 Nyet

Do you mean then that it’s rather the Norman French language that resulted in the simplification of the English grammar?

I understood that it was the mix of Anglo-Saxon and Danish, each with their own articles and declensions, that resulted in us just abandoning them for the most part.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:28:47am

re: #184 Dangerman

I fucking love that movie. Tour De Force by EJO.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:31:42am

re: #182 Dangerman

i took calculus my first semester at college
wasn’t sure i needed it but ‘everybody took it’ was the advice i got
i was totally lost at sea the entire time. clueless through lectures, labs, exams.
(i was honors math in high school so it was a bit of a blow first semester and all)
not sure if i passed. probably not.

year and a half later transferred to another school
now i needed calc for my major so I tried it again

very early on, one day it clicked.
like a light switch. i still remember it. a true aha moment.

i had it.
and i knew it.

different teacher
different book
different approach
maybe the different surroundings helped too

I started college as a math major but in my second quarter, I was totally lost. I understood the text but not the logic needed for exam questions. The instructor was available for limited tutoring and after several sessions, as with you, the light bulb clicked and my difficulty ended.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:32:40am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Maybe, but the fact that it was not the language of the elites is, I think, directly relevant to the relatively quick change, since it’s the written language that holds back the change.

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Thanos  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:37:34am

re: #55 iceweasel

hey sergey— found this this morning, thought you’d be interested:
Woman Accused of Stealing Nancy Pelosi’s Laptop Appears in Video Making Nazi Salute

It’s bellingcat, and a long read, but highly interesting about the antisemitic freaks and nazis she’s been linked to. Worth a look!
bellingcat.com

You can pre order “We are BellingCat” now, release 3/2
amazon.com

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PrairieQueen  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:38:06am

If I was casting a serious movie with a serious villain, I could choose Stephen Miller because he looks like the soulless re-animated prick that would rep Zyklon B without batting an eye, he’d only want to know how much the order was for.

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:40:21am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

The Amnesty International news pisses me off so much.

My grandmother worked for Amnesty for years (retired mid-90s). My brother and I used to love coming to get her at the office because all her coworkers seemed so cool (and inevitably, some of them gave us cookies).

What now? Or is this about them rolling over for the Russian government?

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:41:23am

re: #193 William Lewis

What now? Or is this about them rolling over for the Russian government?

Navalny stuff.

But it’s interesting that it turns out they did the same thing to Mandela too.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:43:22am

re: #182 Dangerman

i took calculus my first semester at college
wasn’t sure i needed it but ‘everybody took it’ was the advice i got
i was totally lost at sea the entire time. clueless through lectures, labs, exams.
(i was honors math in high school so it was a bit of a blow first semester and all)
not sure if i passed. probably not.

year and a half later transferred to another school
now i needed calc for my major so I tried it again

very early on, one day it clicked.
like a light switch. i still remember it. a true aha moment.

i had it.
and i knew it.

different teacher
different book
different approach
maybe the different surroundings helped too

It clicked for me the first time I took it (right book not right Professor — his lectures consisted in summarizing the book). For the first time, all the math I’d learned previously made sense.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:43:54am
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sagehen  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:45:01am

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

The movie “Stand and Deliver” showed that a great teacher can transform students who were abandoned by the establishment into accomplished practitioners of mathematics. There really are serious flaws in how math is taught in this country — flaws that hamper our nation’s ability to compete in the modern world. Well, that and the focus on Ayn Randish economics which lead to brilliant physicists working in finance instead of science.

and then they made the students repeat the test, because the school board didn’t believe a bunch of hispanics could have scored so well without cheating…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:48:32am

re: #197 sagehen

and then they made the students repeat the test, because the school board didn’t believe a bunch of hispanics could have scored so well without cheating…

they take their Bell Curves seriously…

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:50:09am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

English makes up for its simplicity of grammar with being impossible to spell or pronounce, even to people who grow up with it.

Many so-called rules are littered with exceptions. The ditty learned in grammar school
“i” before “e” except after “c” or when pronounced as “a” as in “neighbor” or “weigh” applies except for “weird” and “leisure” and a host of other common terms.

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plansbandc  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:51:16am

re: #163 🌹UOJB!

I had a terrible Algebra teacher who basically convinced me I couldn’t do higher math. (I believe my brain wasn’t ready for it.) Lots of math anxiety to the point where I never took any in undergrad. (Astronomy counted for some math credit, I did great in that.) Biopsychology counted for the other. (Not so great in that.)

Many years later, I got and A in Algebra and an A in Accounting. (My VERY math oriented father was stunned.)

Was advance in other subjects, so the schools just assumed I could handle higher math. I wasn’t ready. Caused much trauma and sadness over the year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:51:55am

re: #199 Hecuba’s daughter

Many so-called rules are littered with exceptions. The ditty learned in grammar school
“i” before “e” except after “c” or when pronounced as “a” as in “neighbor” or “weigh” applies except for “weird” and “leisure” and a host of other common terms.

ghoti

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:52:37am

re: #183 Nyet

Do you mean then that it’s rather the Norman French language that resulted in the simplification of the English grammar?

I think not directly. All the Indo-European languages I’ve looked at tend toward simplification of their formal grammar — I mean accidence mostly, as syntax is an entirely different can of worms (e.g. compare Classical Sanskrit to English for the end points, Latin to Romance languages, or Old Church Slavic to modern Slavic languages).

Also, English still had some of that complexity 350 years after the Conquest.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:56:04am
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nines09  Feb 25, 2021 • 9:58:06am

re: #171 jeffreyw

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:00:14am

Wingnut heads exploding already.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:01:34am

LOL I am so old I remember when “Mr. Potato Head” was a literal POTATO. You had to provide your own, it did not come with the kit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:01:58am

re: #205 The Pie Overlord!

Mr. Potato Head is no longer a mister. Hasbro, the company that makes the potato-shaped plastic toy, is giving the spud a gender neutral new name: Potato Head. The change will appear on boxes this year

I yam what I yam!!!

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:02:47am

re: #205 The Pie Overlord!

Wingnut heads exploding already.

I prefer Mr. Tortilla Head anyway.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:02:57am

Don Jr. made a joke…I actually laughed at it. So he must have stolen it from a funnier person…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:03:06am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

LOL I am so old I remember when “Mr. Potato Head” was a literal POTATO. You had to provide your own, it did not come with the kit.

I tried to explain that to some Germans and they were aghast that one would used potatoes as playthings…next, we will be making cabbage dolls…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:05:05am

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

She’s irritated that she cannot serve on committees and interrogate witnesses with the same dumb questions and speeches as Ron Johnson or Jim Jordan. She probably wonders why they allowed to be considered full members of their respective bodies when she isn’t. Which is a totally valid question.

Obviously crazy, violent, disloyal women are less accepted than crazy, violent, disloyal men.

An example from a different field can be found in the two Kremlin operatives featured in that prescient font of American political and cultural lore, the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. Natasha was much the more clever and nefarious of the two spies but it was the bungler Boris who was usually in charge.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:06:14am
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Jay C  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:06:17am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I yam what I yam!!!

Sweet!

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

LOL I am so old I remember when “Mr. Potato Head” was a literal POTATO. You had to provide your own, it did not come with the kit.

Heh I remember those, too (and must be a function of age, ‘cause I don’t recall when they changed from organic (potato) to synthetic (plastic potato). Though the latter might be a better idea, considering probably not a few kids got an unexpected lesson in the dynamics of organic decomposition via sticking Mr. PH away in the bottom of the toy chest…..

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:09:08am

re: #184 Dangerman

Jaime Escalante was a hard core Republican who supported racist Ron Unz’s challenge to Pete Wilson in 1994.

When he campaigned for Unz and pushed for Prop 65 requiring people speak in English…just another Republican I’d flip the bird to.

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:09:48am

re: #208 Belafon

I prefer Mr. Tortilla Head anyway.

Shouldn’t that be Sr. Tortilla Head?
(and come with a little taco truck to park on every corner)?

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:09:52am

re: #214 🌹UOJB!

Jaime Escalante was a hard core Republican who supported racist Ron Unz’s challenge to Pete Wilson in 1994.

When he campaigned for Unz and pushed for Prop 65 requiring people speak in English…just another Republican I’d flip the bird to.

Ugh, Unz. Nowadays a full on neo-Nazi.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:09:54am

re: #213 Jay C

Sweet!

Heh I remember those, too (and must be a function of age, ‘cause I don’t recall when they changed from organic (potato) to synthetic (plastic potato). Though the latter might be a better idea, considering probably not a few kids got an unexpected lesson in the dynamics of organic decomposition via sticking Mr. PH away in the bottom of the toy chest…..

Although originally produced as separate plastic parts to be stuck into a real potato or other vegetable, a plastic potato was added to the kit in 1964. In the 1960s, government regulations forced the Potato Head parts to be less sharp, leaving them unable to prick vegetables easily.

[beavis]Huh hu…they said “prick.”[/beavis]
Having your kids play with a potato sounds like bad parenting today.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:11:11am

re: #215 Jay C

Shouldn’t that be Sr. Tortilla Head?
(and come with a little taco truck to park on every corner)?

Now I want tacos. Why didn’t the Biden Presidency come with taco trucks? Does a woman have to win for that to happen?

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🌹UOJB!  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:11:28am

re: #197 sagehen

and then they made the students repeat the test, because the school board didn’t believe a bunch of hispanics could have scored so well without cheating…

Just like I was required to retake the SAT & Achievement tests in 1973 because that 8th Grade Math Teacher From Hell alleged I cheated. The son of a CENSORED actually sent a letter to the College Board saying he had proof I cheated and he’d reveal it to them.

The Retests showed a higher score and he STILL alleged I cheated. Even as I was the only one being retested with FOUR ASSHOLES watching my every move including that fucking piece of shit math teacher!

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IngisKahn  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:12:51am

English grammar is infinitely complex compared to Mandarin Chinese.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:16:37am

re: #219 🌹UOJB!

Just like I was required to retake the SAT & Achievement tests in 1973 because that 8th Grade Math Teacher From Hell alleged I cheated. The son of a CENSORED actually sent a letter to the College Board saying he had proof I cheated and he’d reveal it to them.

The Retests showed a higher score and he STILL alleged I cheated.

Must be a Republican. He’ll have the proof any day now.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:16:39am

re: #220 IngisKahn

English grammar is infinitely complex compared to Mandarin Chinese.

If only the rest of Mandarin Chinese weren’t infinitely more complex than English. /

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Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:17:37am

Over at the Bulwark, they’re wishing REALLY REALLY HARD that someone would roll the clock back 40 years to when the GOP used to not be full of evil, deranged freaks screaming racism, misogyny, ignorance & hate.

Maybe 55 years? Back to before when the Civil Rights Act drove all the white racists into the GOP, and Southern Baptist preachers started their campaign to burn down anything that threatened their grasp on The Sacred Grift?

Ok, here’s the easy part: The Republican Party is what it is, it’s the Trump/Trumpy party, it’s the party of nationalism, protectionism, authoritarianism, wall-building, intolerance, fear, resentments, grievances, middle fingers to the rest of the world, lying, and utter disdain for democracy and the rule of law. In other words, it’s Donald Trump’s party. All this talk about a GOP “civil war” is just wrong. There is no war. There is no great divide. The party is pretty darn unified. Republican voters, by really solid majorities, want Trumpism.

Here’s the hard part: What about all the rest of us? What about all the conservatives, former Republicans, moderate Republicans, independents, and even moderate Democrats who want absolutely nothing to do with this new Trumpy Republican Party? What do we do?

The options are actually pretty straightforward. Stay and try to reform the Republican Party; hang out in the land of independents; join the Democratic Party; or, start a new political party.

The chief objections to each of these options are pretty straightforward as well. The Republican Party isn’t changing, so it’s not reforming. If you hang out in the land of independents, you’ll probably be hanging out there for the rest of your natural life. Though many have enormous respect for the Democratic Party, issues and policies matter, and the vast majority of conservatives, when it comes to issues and policies, just have a fundamentally different world view than today’s Democratic Party

Abortion. I’m betting it all comes down to abortion.

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jeffreyw  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:17:48am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:19:06am

re: #222 Nyet

If only the rest of Mandarin Chinese weren’t infinitely more complex than English. /

Half my team at work is from China, which included my director until she was laid off during covid cutbacks. They’d often switch to Mandarin, and I didn’t pick up a single word of the language. Tonal languages are just too alien to me.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:21:38am

re: #225 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Half my team at work is from China, which included my director until she was laid off during covid cutbacks. They’d often switch to Mandarin, and I didn’t pick up a single word of the language. Tonal languages are just too alien to me.

Right. Personally, I would be afraid to use the incorrect tones and thus to insult someone incidentally …
And don’t start me on the beautiful but deadly writing system. /

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:23:33am

re: #223 Khal Wimpo (exhaling for 1st time in 4 yrs)

Abortion, guns, and spending on “others”.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:24:51am

re: #226 Nyet

Right. Personally, I would be afraid to use the incorrect tones and thus to insult someone incidentally …
And don’t start me on the beautiful but deadly writing system. /

As someone with terrible handwriting, I’m amazed that Chinese kids can learn to use a writing system that looks like art.

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Nyet  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:26:21am

re: #228 Punish Domestic Terrorists

As someone with terrible handwriting,

Hahaha! My fellow sufferer.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:31:49am

re: #229 Nyet

Hahaha! My fellow sufferer.

It drew me to computers, which I built my career on, so it worked out fine.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2021 • 10:46:27am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

LOL I am so old I remember when “Mr. Potato Head” was a literal POTATO. You had to provide your own, it did not come with the kit.

Pretty sure there were materials to make Mrs. Potato Head in those days.


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