Trevor Noah Explains: The Filibuster Edition

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What is the filibuster? What do first ladies do? Why do presidents lie about their health? If you don’t know, now you know everything about the government. #DailyShow #IfYouDontKnowNowYouKnow #TrevorNoah

00:00 - What Is the Filibuster?
09:12 -Why Do Presidents Lie About Their Health?
15:45 - What Do First Ladies Do?
25:35 - What Are Faithless Electors?

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1
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:43:33am

Even the House of Lords can only delay legislation, not block it entirely

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:48:37am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even the House of Lords can only delay legislation, not block it entirely

That took some changes since they used to be able to. And did it consistently enough that there were threats to have the monarch appoint enough peers to be able to change their rules.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:54:59am

wsj

Vaccine reluctance dropping across the country fast

A shrinking percentage of Americans are expressing reluctance to get a Covid-19 vaccine: 17%, down from 22% in January. Vaccine hesitancy is declining in most states.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:55:36am
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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:58:08am

the manner in which the R’s interpret every clause of the constitution to their favor

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:59:40am

Vice news.
the least quelle surprise thing of the day

“As Republicans make a sweeping voter suppression push nationwide, they insist it won’t have any real impact on voters’ ability to cast their ballots. But a look at how voter turnout shifted in 2020 shows a strong link between states making it easier to vote and voters actually turning out,” Vice News reports.

“In 2020, the states that showed the biggest jumps in voter turnout were almost uniformly states that also made it dramatically easier to vote, often by allowing everyone to vote by mail. And the states that saw the lowest turnout increases were all ones where it’s hard to vote—and where lawmakers kept onerous rules in place—like bans on mail voting—in spite of the pandemic.”

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:00:07am

re: #5 Dangerman

But it only looks like that for young and non-white voters. Old white voters who more reliably vote Republican get a nice stroll in the park.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:02:39am
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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:03:16am

re: #7 DesertDenizen

But it only looks like that for young and non-white voters. Old white voters who more reliably vote Republican get a nice stroll in the park.

Old white male voters. Women have to prove that their name change for marriage or divorce is their real name. And closing off mail in voting affected people who were disabled.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:05:12am

I’m really going to be pissed if Biden doesn’t get to fill at least two SCOTUS vacancies.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:05:44am

re: #5 Dangerman

My reply would be you first sir. After you go it should be clear for me to go. This is why we should never let our collective guard down. They will always look for a way to twist it to their own advantage.

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:05:58am

re: #9 Belafon

Old white male voters. Women have to prove that their name change for marriage or divorce is their real name. And closing off mail in voting affected people who were disabled.

Good point. It’s easy for me to vote because demographicly I am likely to be a solid R voter. Surprise on them that I’m a solid D and have been since my first election during the Clinton years. I came of political age during the last gasps of bipartisanship before Newt and Hastert murdered it.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:05:58am

re: #7 DesertDenizen

But it only looks like that for young and non-white voters. Old white voters who more reliably vote Republican get a nice stroll in the park.

you’re right about the specific - voting

i was going for the more general - as in that’s not what the FF meant by ‘exercise’, or well regulated, or ‘receiving…a thing of value’, or high crimes and misdemeanors, or, or or

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:07:18am

re: #13 Dangerman

you’re right about the specific - voting

i was going for the more general - as in that’s not what the FF meant by ‘exercise’, or well regulated, or ‘receiving…a thing of value’, or high crimes and misdemeanors, or, or or

Gotcha. Other than owning guns the Republicans makes it difficult to exercise pretty much any right.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:09:11am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m really going to be pissed if Biden doesn’t get to fill at least two SCOTUS vacancies.

Dunno: I’m thinking he’ll be lucky to get one (via Breyer resigning): the others are either too young - or too pigheadedly stubborn to leave the Court any way but in a body bag…..

Oh, and I hope Chuck Schumer pushes Biden’s slate of court nominees through utilizing the same process the GOPers did with Trump’s picks….

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:09:47am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m really going to be pissed if Biden doesn’t get to fill at least two SCOTUS vacancies.

Ketanji Brown Jackson was widely expected, and she clerked for Justice Breyer, whom we hope will retire this year or next, so that fits together nicely. I hope he doesn’t wait until 2023, just in case, knock wood, we lose the Senate in the midterms.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:10:14am

re: #15 Jay C

Dunno: I’m thinking he’ll be lucky to get one (via Breyer resigning): the others are either too young - or too pigheadedly stubborn to leave the Court any way but in a body bag…..

Imagine if Kavanagh died of a heart attack around September 2024…

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:11:10am

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine if Kavanagh died of a heart attack around September 2024…

More like cirrhosis of the liver based on his favorite beverage and his reported quantities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:12:07am

re: #18 DesertDenizen

More like cirrhosis of the liver based on his favorite beverage and his reported quantities.

He might get a blocked tear duct and drown internally…

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:12:41am

reuters

New York state’s highest court on Tuesday cleared the way for a former contestant on “The Apprentice” to sue Donald Trump for defamation, after the former U.S. president called her a liar for accusing him of sexual assault.

Trump had argued before leaving the White House on Jan. 20 that Summer Zervos could not pursue her case because a sitting president could not be sued, but the state Court of Appeals said in a brief order that “the issues presented have become moot.”

Zervos’ case will now return to a Manhattan trial court, where her lawyers may have an opportunity to question Trump under oath. The case had been on hold during Trump’s appeal.

“Now a private citizen, the defendant has no further excuse to delay justice for Ms. Zervos, and we are eager to get back to the trial court and prove her claims,” Beth Wilkinson, a lawyer for Zervos, said in an email.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:19:23am

re: #20 Dangerman

Good. Let us hope that Letitia James has an opportunity to get a piece of him too.

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steve_davis  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:33:13am

By the way, continuing on from last-thread comments, my cat’s nips are kind of funny, because with the black hair, it really accents the perfectly round little “breasts” that she has, which can be a little disconcerting due to the multiple rows of them. I expect nips on a cat, but little rows of breasties can catch one by surprise.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:40:12am

re: #6 Dangerman

Vice news.
the least quelle surprise thing of the day

Meanwhile Kentucky isn’t returning Georgia’s calls

The Kentucky General Assembly passed significant legislation Monday night that will make three days of widespread early voting a regular part of the state’s future elections and expand people’s access to the ballot in other ways while also instituting new security measures,” the Louisville Courier Journal reports.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:43:24am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Trump Appointees Are Sabotaging Biden’s Stimulus Checks

Fuck that asshole and all of his acolytes.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:45:07am

re: #8 Dangerman

Biden didn’t waste political capital on trying to build bipartisanship in Congress when he had bipartisan support for his bill nationwide. Poll after poll showed strong support for doing this, regardless of the obstructionist GOP in Congress. So he got it to done.

They’ll do the same with judicial picks, and next up is the infrastructure plan.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:46:09am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Trump Appointees Are Sabotaging Biden’s Stimulus Checks

Does the article mention if he can fire them and if so why he hasn’t?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:46:22am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:47:50am

re: #27 Belafon

Does the article mention if he can fire them and if so why he hasn’t?

I believe he can fire them, but no idea why he hasn’t yet, except maybe that he’s a little busy.

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No Malarkey!  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:48:08am

re: #4 Dangerman

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:50:11am
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:50:20am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I believe he can fire them, but no idea why he hasn’t yet, except maybe that he’s a little busy.

He’s busy and he’s probably giving them a chance to dig their own graves. He’s going to get reamed if he’s seen as just firing people because they worked for the former guy; if he lets them build a case that they’re incompetent or (as in this case) actively malicious, it’s an easier sell to say, “Look, these jackwagons are why all you SS-receiving Americans aren’t getting your checks, and here’s the proof, so I’m canning their asses effective immediately.” Even a Republican can’t argue with that.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:51:48am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I believe he can fire them, but no idea why he hasn’t yet, except maybe that he’s a little busy.

I believe that he’s got right to fire the SSA administrators. That’s not the case with DeJoy at USPS. Biden would need the Board of Governors at the USPS to dismiss DeJoy.

My gut feeling is that he’s trying to maintain some continuity all while trying to move things forward. USPS and SSA are two parts where he’s running into the obstructionist treasonweasel GOPers Trump installed.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:52:53am

re: #30 No Malarkey!

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Mrsdm was just saying how much we owe to warnocks campaign

And yes I know every seat matters. He was last over the line. And Georgja!

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No Malarkey!  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:52:57am

re: #12 DesertDenizen

Good point. It’s easy for me to vote because demographicly I am likely to be a solid R voter. Surprise on them that I’m a solid D and have been since my first election during the Clinton years. I came of political age during the last gasps of bipartisanship before Newt and Hastert murdered it.

The GQP may be shooting itself in the foot. With high propensity college educated voters shifting blue and non college educated low propensity voters shifting red, they may be blocking their own voters. If course, they are planning on ignoring the results and declaring victory anyway.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:52:59am

re: #22 steve_davis

By the way, continuing on from last-thread comments, my cat’s nips are kind of funny, because with the black hair, it really accents the perfectly round little “breasts” that she has, which can be a little disconcerting due to the multiple rows of them. I expect nips on a cat, but little rows of breasties can catch one by surprise.

You’re hysterical. And she’s a beauty.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:53:38am

re: #33 lawhawk

I believe that he’s got right to fire the SSA administrators. That’s not the case with DeJoy at USPS. Biden would need the Board of Governors at the USPS to dismiss DeJoy.

My gut feeling is that he’s trying to maintain some continuity all while trying to move things forward. USPS and SSA are two parts where he’s running into the obstructionist treasonweasel GOPers Trump installed.

Continuity of government is the other reason I forgot to put in my post, and it is a big one. People underestimate just how much gets disrupted when there is a mass exodus of seasoned and trained personnel.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:54:03am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Sux being g irrelevant huh?

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:56:08am

re: #32 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

He’s busy and he’s probably giving them a chance to dig their own graves. He’s going to get reamed if he’s seen as just firing people because they worked for the former guy; if he lets them build a case that they’re incompetent or (as in this case) actively malicious, it’s an easier sell to say, “Look, these jackwagons are why all you SS-receiving Americans aren’t getting your checks, and here’s the proof, so I’m canning their asses effective immediately.” Even a Republican can’t argue with that.

Can I politely disagree? ;-)

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:57:28am

re: #39 Dangerman

Can I politely disagree? ;-)

I’m going to put on my Jen Psaki hat: No. Next question.

But seriously. Yes, they will argue with that, because they’re incredibly thick. But they shouldn’t be able to. Sigh.

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Ming5000  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:59:05am

Michigan’s Attorney General!
I am so proud of our Gov, SOS, and AG.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 10:59:49am

re: #22 steve_davis

By the way, continuing on from last-thread comments, my cat’s nips are kind of funny, because with the black hair, it really accents the perfectly round little “breasts” that she has, which can be a little disconcerting due to the multiple rows of them. I expect nips on a cat, but little rows of breasties can catch one by surprise.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:00:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:07:46am

re: #27 Belafon

Does the article mention if he can fire them and if so why he hasn’t?

Probably just a pain in the ass to weed them all out and get them gone.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:11:12am

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:11:52am

re: #45 Dangerman

And golf.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:13:00am

re: #5 Dangerman

the manner in which the R’s interpret every clause of the constitution to their favor

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:13:15am

re: #27 Belafon

Does the article mention if he can fire them and if so why he hasn’t?

Letting them do this temporarily painful and inconvenient stuff makes it clearer who’s working for the people and who isnt

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:14:38am

re: #27 Belafon

Does the article mention if he can fire them and if so why he hasn’t?

Yes and no.

And the Dems on the postal board seen to like DeJoy. That article is nothing but disappointment.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:14:54am

Imagine if the Second Amendment guaranteed everyone the right to vote instead of guaranteeing them the right to have guns.

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John Hughes  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:15:03am

re: #22 steve_davis

I expect nips on a cat, but little rows of breasties can catch one by surprise.

m.imdb.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:15:36am

re: #49 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yes and no.

And the Dems on the postal board seen to like DeJoy. That article is nothing but disappointment.

Sigh. So USPS may be fucked long term then. Greeeeeat.

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Teukka  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:16:04am

[Sauce]

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Semper Fi  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:17:35am

re: #49 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yes and no.

And the Dems on the postal board seen to like DeJoy. That article is nothing but disappointment.

Apparently Trump also likes him.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:18:01am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Trump Appointees Are Sabotaging Biden’s Stimulus Checks

We did not get ours yet even though we received a letter from the IRS telling us to expect direct deposit within a week (it has been longer than a week).

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:18:31am

re: #45 Dangerman

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Well I’m Frisbeeterian and Tuesday’s are my holy day that I go on the roof for the whole day. So quit voting on Tuesday’s.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:20:09am

re: #32 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

He’s busy and he’s probably giving them a chance to dig their own graves. He’s going to get reamed if he’s seen as just firing people because they worked for the former guy; if he lets them build a case that they’re incompetent or (as in this case) actively malicious, it’s an easier sell to say, “Look, these jackwagons are why all you SS-receiving Americans aren’t getting your checks, and here’s the proof, so I’m canning their asses effective immediately.” Even a Republican can’t argue with that.

And fire them in a way that they’d be toxic to rehire by anyone else.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:20:58am

re: #55 The Pie Overlord!

I got a letter yesterday telling me I am supposed to get $600. I have already received my refund and the $1400 that Joe said we were supposed to get. This is completely messed up.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:24:50am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

Fuck that asshole and all of his acolytes.

DON’T. GET. ME. STARTED. WITH. THE. “DO MORE WITH LESS” BULLSHIT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH FROM THEM!

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:28:24am

re: #49 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yes and no.

And the Dems on the postal board seen to like DeJoy. That article is nothing but disappointment.

Why do the Democrats like him?

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:29:04am

Also, how many Democrats are there?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:30:41am

re: #60 Belafon

Why do the Democrats like him?

It didn’t say.

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:30:56am

re: #61 Belafon

Also, how many Democrats are there?

I think there are 4 or 5. Two are carryovers, and they say they approve of DeJoy. I doubt the new ones do. Not sure if they have been confirmed, or need to be confirmed, by the Senate yet.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:33:40am

re: #61 Belafon

Also, how many Democrats are there?

There are six in total now. All old white guys. IIRC, 2 are Dems.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:35:02am

re: #64 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I gotta say, old Bobby Duncan had a hell of a dyed combover.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:35:12am

Antioch, California:
WATCH: Man throws rocks at church windows, causes $40K in damage days before Easter

An unidentified man threw dozens of rocks into nearly 50 windows and doors at a California church early Monday morning, causing thousands in damage.
The man was caught on camera throwing rocks at Cornerstone Christian Church in Antioch just days before Easter.

“The video cameras, all the surveillance doesn’t even look like he tried to get in, and he could’ve because some of the windows were totally broken out,” Senior Pastor Steve Miner said.

The church had just finished landscaping the property.

The man picked up some of the newly placed river rocks and threw them at about 50 windows on the church, causing about $40,000 in damage.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:36:17am

re: #64 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There are six in total now. All old white guys. IIRC, 2 are Dems.

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Same old story. 30% of the overall population. 100% of the power.

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Citizen K  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:44:28am

re: #63 retired cynic

I think there are 4 or 5. Two are carryovers, and they say they approve of DeJoy. I doubt the new ones do. Not sure if they have been confirmed, or need to be confirmed, by the Senate yet.

So basically, even if we get the vacancies filled post-haste, DeJoy is still essentially untouchable?

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:44:44am

Our Criteria for What Constitutes ‘Terrorism’ Have Been Laughable for Years Now
Charlie Pierce

Discussion of the judge’s decision to not charge those three Michigan men for terrorism, “intent to commit mayhem,” by kidnapping the Michigan governor.

I think allegedly plotting to kidnap the governor of Michigan implies an intent to do some things that can reasonably be defined as mayhem, but I am not a judge. And this judge wasn’t done belaboring logic just yet.

Klaeren added that an encrypted communication network, not accessible to the general public, was “in many respects no different than thinking the thought to yourself.”

Exactly how many ways is an encrypted communication network no different from woolgathering at your desk on a sunny spring afternoon? One way? Three? Fifteen? The judge declined to say.

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:45:27am

re: #68 Citizen K

So basically, even if we get the vacancies filled post-haste, DeJoy is still essentially untouchable?

Unless the two existing D old white guys “see the light.”

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sagehen  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:50:53am

re: #60 Belafon

Why do the Democrats like him?

not all of, not the new guys. Just 2 of the holdovers who’d been there for a number of years.

My guess? They’re blue-dog dems of an age who registered Dem when that meant something different than it does now.

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:51:39am

re: #71 sagehen

not all of, not the new guys. Just 2 of the holdovers who’d been there for a number of years.

My guess? They’re blue-dog dems of an age who registered Dem when that meant something different than it does now.

Old white guys have to stick together. We all know how oppressed they are.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 11:56:45am

re: #68 Citizen K

So basically, even if we get the vacancies filled post-haste, DeJoy is still essentially untouchable?

Unknown at this time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:05:12pm

Whose brilliant idea was all this bullshit anyway? Why can’t the President just appoint the Postmaster General directly?

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:06:25pm

Red Seaweed Defeats Cows’ Methane-Filled Burps
When it comes to battling the climate-damaging gas in belches, a little of the macroalgae goes a long way.
Atlas Obscura

60-80% reduction! BFD. If they can manage to produce enough of it cheaply that cattle producers will buy it.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:06:29pm

re: #74 Eclectic Cyborg

Whose brilliant idea was all this bullshit anyway? Why can’t the President just appoint the Postmaster General directly?

Generally this layer is meant to keep the nominee from being political. But, as with all things, the GOP has destroyed the independence of the board.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:12:40pm

re: #74 Eclectic Cyborg

Whose brilliant idea was all this bullshit anyway? Why can’t the President just appoint the Postmaster General directly?

I think it goes back to the Nixon Administration: standard (longstanding) GOP bullshit about the Post Office costing too much, too much Civil Service protection, too much “political” interference, etc. (i.e. BS) - so it got spun off into the quasi-independent “Postal Service” it is today.
Which of course, did little/nothing to deal with the main dichotomy in how the PO was looked at: i.e. “deliver the mail in a timely manner” vs. “don’t lose money”

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:16:49pm

re: #76 Belafon

Generally this layer is meant to keep the nominee from being political. But, as with all things, the GOP has destroyed the independence of the board.

Immersive, far-right media has poisoned not only political independence, but it has poisoned the American people themselves. In theory, taking power out of the hands of a few people and spreading it among larger subgroups and committees should prevent corruption. But when you have a full 40% of the population fully immersed in a cult that thinks exactly alike on every political topic, there is no end to the corruption.

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No Malarkey!  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:23:25pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:31:33pm

re: #79 No Malarkey!

She did the only thing she could and made the world aware of it.

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:32:43pm

re: #80 Belafon

She did the only thing she could and made the world aware of it.

And feels guilty that she couldn’t do more. It’s tough to be a good person in an uncaring world.

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Mattand  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:39:40pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I believe he can fire them, but no idea why he hasn’t yet, except maybe that he’s a little busy.

As infuriating as this is, I would imagine getting rid of the motherfucker running/ruining the USPS is probably a bigger priority, especially since Biden can’t straight-up fire him.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:39:51pm

re: #77 Jay C

I think it goes back to the Nixon Administration: standard (longstanding) GOP bullshit about the Post Office costing too much, too much Civil Service protection, too much “political” interference, etc. (i.e. BS) - so it got spun off into the quasi-independent “Postal Service” it is today.
Which of course, did little/nothing to deal with the main dichotomy in how the PO was looked at: i.e. “deliver the mail in a timely manner” vs. “don’t lose money”

USPS was designed to deliver mail to everyone and the postal rates were determined not by distance or density, but on the cost to process on average. That’s why a first class mail to someone living in the middle of nowhere Alaska costs as much as sending it to someone the next town over in NJ. It’s not about money, it’s about the constitutional obligation to provide mail service. It was an essential part of government, and the GOP has decided that it should be run like a business, because that’s how they view everything.

Never mind that businesses routinely fail (see also, Trump, Donald J), and that the post office is not supposed to fail.

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:42:13pm

re: #83 lawhawk

I hate that “government should be run like a business” canard. Business exists to make money, government exists for the good of the people, and much of that includes doing things the private sector cannot or will not do. To accomplish this we pay taxes and for some uses, pay fees to offset cost to tax dollars. It’s not about profit.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:43:26pm

re: #4 Dangerman

Hallalloo. President Biden also needs to fill the vacant EEOC and MSPB leadership positions.

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Mattand  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:45:13pm

re: #82 Mattand

As infuriating as this is, I would imagine getting rid of the motherfucker running/ruining the USPS is probably a bigger priority, especially since Biden can’t straight-up fire him.

Sorry, didn’t realize this was being covered above. Came in late and didn’t read the whole thread, as usual.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:46:30pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately I have no doubt that those thug cops would have killed her or anyone else who tried to intervene. Filming Floyd’s murder was a genius move because otherwise the cops wouldn’t even be facing justice. They would have lied their way out of criminal charges altogether. Floyd is not the first or only Black man to be choked to death by cops.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:47:52pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

Unfortunately I have no doubt that those thug cops would have killed her or anyone else who tried to intervene. Filming Floyd’s murder was a genius move because otherwise the cops wouldn’t even be facing justice. They would have lied their way out of criminal charges altogether. Floyd is not the first or only Black man to be choked to death by cops.

This. This. This. 💯 This.

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Mattand  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:50:12pm

re: #83 lawhawk

USPS was designed to deliver mail to everyone and the postal rates were determined not by distance or density, but on the cost to process on average. That’s why a first class mail to someone living in the middle of nowhere Alaska costs as much as sending it to someone the next town over in NJ. It’s not about money, it’s about the constitutional obligation to provide mail service. It was an essential part of government, and the GOP has decided that it should be run like a business, because that’s how they view everything.

Never mind that businesses routinely fail (see also, Trump, Donald J), and that the post office is not supposed to fail.

I have a relative who works for FedEx and while to say that he hates the USPS might be a bit extreme, he will not cut them any slack whatsoever.

Point out that the current Postmaster General is literally trying to destroy the Post Office from within, basically at Trump’s order?

Doesn’t care.

Point out that the USPS has to literally fund pensions for worker who haven’t been born yet?

Doesn’t care.

Point out that the USPS is a literal lifeline for many poor Americans though out the US?

Doesn’t care.

I’m willing to bet he doesn’t know that the damn thing is Constitutionally-mandated, despite his spouse being a history teacher.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:50:27pm

Darnella Frazier, at 17, changed the world by filming George Floyd’s death.

Her video is at the heart of this trial, the $27M settlement for Floyd’s family, the national racial reckoning, and so much more.

And, she is haunted by what more she could have done.

Tell me this couldn’t be one hell of an origin story for a black female superhero.

Someone get Marvel on the phone.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:53:46pm
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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:54:03pm

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

Darnella Frazier, at 17, changed the world by filming George Floyd’s death.

Her video is at the heart of this trial, the $27M settlement for Floyd’s family, the national racial reckoning, and so much more.

And, she is haunted by what more she could have done.

Tell me this couldn’t be one hell of an origin story for a black female superhero.

Someone get Marvel on the phone.

People like Ms. Frazier are how the world changes. It must be hard to be Good in a world that is Neutral at best, but she’s a light for us all.

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Mattand  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:55:39pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

Unfortunately I have no doubt that those thug cops would have killed her or anyone else who tried to intervene. Filming Floyd’s murder was a genius move because otherwise the cops wouldn’t even be facing justice. They would have lied their way out of criminal charges altogether. Floyd is not the first or only Black man to be choked to death by cops.

One of the few cops I know is a retired trooper from a Western state. She dropped me from FB because I was spreading “hate” about cops, allegedly.

The hate being I was pointing out cops know they are being filmed at every given moment and they’re still killing Black folks left and right.

You know, radical shit like that.

She also wasn’t convinced by the initial video of Chauvin killing Floyd because we weren’t getting the full story, or some similar bullshit.

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gwangung  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:56:59pm

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

Darnella Frazier, at 17, changed the world by filming George Floyd’s death.

Her video is at the heart of this trial, the $27M settlement for Floyd’s family, the national racial reckoning, and so much more.

And, she is haunted by what more she could have done.

Tell me this couldn’t be one hell of an origin story for a black female superhero.

Someone get Marvel on the phone.

White folks….you’re lucky that it ISN’T one.

Because it wouldn’t be a Captain America story. It’d be a Punisher story. Ar best.

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sagehen  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:57:41pm

re: #93 Mattand

She also wasn’t convinced by the initial video of Chauvin killing Floyd because we weren’t getting the full story, or some similar bullshit.

True. The initial video made it seem like Chauvin knelt on Floyd’s neck for 8:46
There’s now another video, from another angle, that shows it was 9:29

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:57:47pm

re: #89 Mattand

I have a relative who works for FedEx and while to say that he hates the USPS might be a bit extreme, he will not cut them any slack whatsoever.

Point out that the current Postmaster General is literally trying to destroy the Post Office from within, basically at Trump’s order?

Doesn’t care.

Point out that the USPS has to literally fund pensions for worker who haven’t been born yet?

Doesn’t care.

Point out that the USPS is a literal lifeline for many poor Americans though out the US?

Doesn’t care.

I’m willing to bet he doesn’t know that the damn thing is Constitutionally-mandated, despite his spouse being a history teacher.

The real question is whether he thinks the person living 30 miles outside of Cheyenne should have to pay more for his prescriptions to be delivered than someone in Dallas does.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 12:59:16pm

re: #94 gwangung

White folks….you’re lucky that it ISN’T one.

Because it wouldn’t be a Captain America story. It’d be a Punisher story. Ar best.

Have you seen last week’s episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier?

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gwangung  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:03:06pm

re: #97 Belafon

Have you seen last week’s episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier?

Yeah. And you still have to say white folks are lucky that the Bradleys are written to be as good natured as they are….

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:10:59pm

re: #98 gwangung

Yeah. And you still have to say white folks are lucky that the Bradleys are written to be as good natured as they are….

They managed to package a whole lot of race history in the US in that one little segment.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:12:01pm

Gotta turn this trial coverage off. Looking at the video of George Floyd unconscious and noticing the trail of liquid that’s evidence of his bladder releasing. Heartbreaking.

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:12:18pm

re: #99 Belafon

They managed to package a whole lot of race history in the US in that one little segment.

Including White ignorance of it.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:12:45pm

re: #101 DesertDenizen

Including White ignorance of it.

Yep.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:15:50pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:16:08pm

“… At least three men inside of the building, who have not been publicly identified, can be seen either witnessing the attack or observing the woman lying on the sidewalk afterward. None of them are seen in the video intervening in the violence.

One of them appeared to close a door next to the woman after she was kicked to the ground.

Some of the men appeared to be security guards, according to reports. The Hill has reached out to the Brodsky Organization for comment. …”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:17:49pm

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

Welp. The cows with guns are screwed now.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:22:18pm

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

What in the ever-loving hell did I just watch.

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JC1  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:25:23pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Antioch, California:
WATCH: Man throws rocks at church windows, causes $40K in damage days before Easter

[Embedded content]

If I paid $800/window I’d expect it to be bulletproof.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:32:19pm

re: #96 Belafon

The real question is whether he thinks the person living 30 miles outside of Cheyenne should have to pay more for his prescriptions to be delivered than someone in Dallas does.

And what every red state house member will say when their constituents start whining about the new prices.

Also, every single member of the current board is a Trump appointee. Two of them have terms expiring this year, and one the year after. With two more members (plus the three Biden has already named), there will be a Biden majority.

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danarchy  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:34:34pm

re: #107 JC1

If I paid $800/window I’d expect it to be bulletproof.

A good triple pane window can cost that or more easily. Those windows did not appear to be particularly standard sizes either.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:35:33pm
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b.d. (America is Great Again)  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:45:37pm

Not good but the Biden team is a lot more transparent than the other team which kept covering up the Stephen Miller biting incidents.

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:52:08pm
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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:53:01pm

Okay - TV back on. EMT testimony is killing this defense attorney.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:55:46pm

WTF

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:56:33pm

re: #114 The Pie Overlord!

WTF

They are absolutely determined to demonstrate that both sides are bad, aren’t they?

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sagehen  Mar 30, 2021 • 1:57:26pm

re: #111 b.d. (America is Great Again)

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Not good but the Biden team is a lot more transparent than the other team which kept covering up the Stephen Miller biting incidents.

Major’s going to be exiled to Delaware, isn’t he?

Just want to point out, Bo was perfectly behaved (although Sunny once tried to be playful with a 2-year-old human, and knocked the kid down. good thing it was on the carpet).

Jenna Bush Hager: Former First Dog Barney ‘was a real jerk’
today.com

In fairness, Barney isn’t the only presidential pet who’s ever gotten into trouble. For example, Bill Clinton’s chocolate Labrador, Buddy, was once caught on camera relieving himself on the carpet.

But that’s nothing compared to the international incident nearly created by Ronald Reagan’s dog. Photographers caught Lucky, a Bouvier des Flandres, dragging Reagan across the White House lawn in front of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher during a diplomatic visit.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:03:20pm

re: #116 sagehen

Photographers caught Lucky, a Bouvier des Flandres, dragging Reagan across the White House lawn in front of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher during a diplomatic visit.

This reminds me of the line from the Pink Panther movie “Revenge of the Pink Panther”:

You mean Douvier killed a wandering transvestite just to impress his godfather?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:06:11pm

“What’s wrong with Barney today, he was snapping at everybody”

Raw Video: President’s Dog Bites Reporter

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:09:44pm

Our favorite font of legal batshittery, L. Lin Wood, Jr., Esq., has apparently found the wherewithal to up the crazy:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:14:07pm

Totally…
F.A.B.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:24:22pm

This defense attorney is getting his ass handed to him.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:26:01pm

Defense attorney tries playing numbers games with the firefighter and she calls bullshit.

123
DodgerFan1988  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:27:03pm

Oh my fucking god! Derek Chauvin’s defense lawyer gaslighting the Firefighter witness, trying to blame her for George Floyd’s death. What a piece of shit!

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:28:28pm

re: #123 DodgerFan1988

Oh my fucking god! Derek Chauvin’s defense lawyer gaslighting the Firefighter witness, trying to blame her for George Floyd’s death. What a piece of shit!

She’s not having it, either.

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gwangung  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:30:09pm

re: #122 darthstar

Defense attorney tries playing numbers games with the firefighter and she calls bullshit.

Meh. Given the wide attitude that juries give the police, I still expect very little.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:31:52pm

re: #125 gwangung

Meh. Given the wide attitude that juries give the police, I still expect very little.

There’s a part of me that wants to say Minnesotans are built different, and there isn’t a lot of love for the Minneapolis Police Department specifically, but the sad fact remains that too many Americans believe that police require power and permission to summarily execute anyone they see fit in order to properly do their job.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:32:26pm
128
DodgerFan1988  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:32:43pm

The bottom feeders at Fox News are going to use this as their talking point tonight: “firefighters incompetence killed George Floyd.”

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:33:33pm

So my wife and I had lunch at this wonderful Greek place a friend runs, and they have one of these fancy heated bidet seats in their bathroom…fast forward three days.

The adventure begins.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:33:40pm

re: #127 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s just….wow, they are REALLY not very good at this.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:35:17pm

“I was quite angry after we loaded Mr. Floyd into the ambulance and realized there was no point because these police just murdered somebody.” - not the answer the defense attorney was looking for.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:36:07pm

re: #131 darthstar

“I was quite angry after we loaded Mr. Floyd into the ambulance and realized there was no point because these police just murdered somebody.” - not the answer the defense attorney was looking for.

Ouch. That is going to leave a mark.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:36:58pm

re: #131 darthstar

The defense is not going to get what they want in this case.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:37:00pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s just….wow, they are REALLY not very good at this.

They assumed they were going to get pardoned or that Trump wouldn’t prosecute them. They didn’t consider the fact that he had actually lost the election and someone else would be attorney general in three weeks.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:37:26pm

re: #133 PhillyPretzel

The defense is not going to get what they want in this case.

Unless they pay off one juror, they’re screwed.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:38:23pm

re: #129 darthstar

So my wife and I had lunch at this wonderful Greek place a friend runs, and they have one of these fancy heated bidet seats in their bathroom…fast forward three days.

The adventure begins.

[Embedded content]

Japan really has perfected toilet technology.

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:39:12pm

my placemat as a bed.
my napkin as a pillow

Squeak in bliss.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:40:53pm

She doesn’t like this asshole very much. You can see it in her eyes.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:41:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:46:08pm

re: #136 Barefoot Grin

Japan really has perfected toilet technology.

The Simpsons - Japan toilet

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Citizen K  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:48:44pm

re: #126 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

There’s a part of me that wants to say Minnesotans are built different, and there isn’t a lot of love for the Minneapolis Police Department specifically, but the sad fact remains that too many Americans believe that police require power and permission to summarily execute anyone they see fit in order to properly do their job.

It’s why the Defense isn’t actually trying to defend Chauvin beyond ‘doing what he was trained to do’. It’s all about indicting George Floyd for his own murder and using the witnesses’ “disrespect” as justification.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:49:13pm
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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:51:16pm

Economists Praise Biden’s Infrastructure Plan, SK Ashby on BobCesca dot com

I liked this:

The next session of Congress won’t be seated for nearly two years, but I’m certain this is the best path to retaining control of both chambers.

Pass the bills. Spend the money. Run on the results.

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TedStriker  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:53:27pm

re: #129 darthstar

So my wife and I had lunch at this wonderful Greek place a friend runs, and they have one of these fancy heated bidet seats in their bathroom…fast forward three days.

The adventure begins.

[Embedded content]

Ooooh, me want…

*looks on Amazon*

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:54:10pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

LOL!

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:54:35pm

Fuck this judge! The fix for acquittal is in.

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Citizen K  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:55:01pm

Poor Gertz. He’s gonna be facing a deluge because of 1 (actually two) letters.

Article in question:

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DesertDenizen  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:55:42pm

re: #125 gwangung

Meh. Given the wide attitude that juries give the police, I still expect very little.

But people like firefighters more than cops, so this might be very bad for the defense.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:56:12pm

re: #146 DodgerFan1988

Dang. Someone ought to call it a mistrial. I doubt that will happen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:56:24pm

re: #147 Citizen K

This shit is always so predictable with the “Family Values” crowd, isn’t it?

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:56:50pm

re: #141 Citizen K

It’s why the Defense isn’t actually trying to defend Chauvin beyond ‘doing what he was trained to do’. It’s all about indicting George Floyd for his own murder and using the witnesses’ “disrespect” as justification.

8 minutes
handcuffed
fuck him

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Dangerman  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:57:40pm

re: #142 Ace-o-aces

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and all very very small
easier to manage

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piratedan  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:57:47pm

re: #129 darthstar

SOON TO BE A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE…. A BIDET RUNS THRU IT…..

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Mar 30, 2021 • 2:59:22pm

re: #147 Citizen K

That may be why he said he wants to leave politics and attack the country by lying to idiots at Newsmax, rather than from within Congress.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:00:39pm

re: #147 Citizen K

So he went to Ding Dong School with a 17 year old girl.

I’m sure JC will forgive him since he’s a Republican.

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Citizen K  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:01:09pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

This shit is always so predictable with the “Family Values” crowd, isn’t it?

It’s always projection, all the way down.

I just feel bad for Gertz almost always getting the blowback of something Gaetz did.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:01:11pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Given their earlier public statement and actions I can’t help but think they’re trying to protect themselves legally from all directions

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:01:25pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:06:07pm

re: #158 darthstar

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:08:36pm
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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:08:57pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Given their earlier public statement and actions I can’t help but think they’re trying to protect themselves legally from all directions

Like getting a subpoena for this publicized an assault would be difficult?

But yeah, the odor of frantic CYA is wafting up strong…..

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:22:17pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:24:58pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:26:22pm

And Nestor makes 3

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:28:25pm

re: #164 Dave In Austin

And Nestor makes 3

Criswell Bacon predicts Nestor is one of the sources for the New York Times article.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:32:05pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:32:05pm

This is not good news. Philly’s infection numbers are going up again.
whyy.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:33:13pm

re: #167 PhillyPretzel

This is not good news. Philly’s infection numbers are going up again.
whyy.org

It’s the fucking variants I bet.

Dammit people, this is NOT OVER YET!

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Egregious Philbin  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:34:09pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

I am amazed….it was with a girl.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:34:35pm

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes. At least now we have real leadership and the right people are in most of the right places.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:35:58pm

re: #169 Egregious Philbin

I am amazed….it was with a girl.

If she’s still alive, Republicans will forget about it.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:37:03pm

re: #171 Belafon

If she’s still alive, Republicans will forget about it.

Forget about it? They’ll laud him for it. Also, they’ll make her out to be a whore and imply that she is a gold-digger or seeking to discredit him, and isn’t to be believed.

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sagehen  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:37:43pm

re: #152 Dangerman

and all very very small
easier to manage

[Embedded content]

Aren’t these countries with a national ID?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:38:18pm

re: #173 sagehen

Aren’t these countries with a national ID?

Hush, you fool! We can’t do that here! It’s the Mark of the Bloody Beast!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:41:29pm

re: #170 PhillyPretzel

Yes. At least now we have real leadership and the right people are in most of the right places.

I was reading the stuff about Brazil earlier and thinking about how fucked we’d be if Trump were still in office.

Thank God we got rid of that fucker.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:42:24pm
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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:42:33pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

I was reading the stuff about Brazil earlier and thinking about how fucked we’d be if Trump were still in office.

Thank God we got rid of that fucker.

We got insanely lucky that the variants weren’t more widespread before the new administration’s vaccination catch-up effort kicked in. If we had been stuck with the former administration’s complete lack of a plan, we’d all be dead.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:42:37pm

re: #173 sagehen

Aren’t these countries with a national ID?

Canada has no national ID card I am aware of. We do have something akin to a U.S. SSN but that document has no photos and nothing on it except a name so pretty much useless to ID someone with.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:44:30pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes but we cannot stop fighting those idiots. There are people who still believe DT is some sort of g-d. We still have to get people registered to vote. Ignorance is similar to COVID-19 we have to constantly fight it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:47:30pm

re: #169 Egregious Philbin

I am amazed….it was with a girl.

That’s exactly what I said! Was he pimping Nestor or what?

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:48:10pm

re: #179 PhillyPretzel

Yes but we cannot stop fighting those idiots. There are people who still believe DT is some sort of g-d. We still have to get people registered to vote. Ignorance is similar to COVID-19 we have to constantly fight it.

Unfortunately, there’s no vaccine against ignorance.
Nor does herd immunity seem to work, either.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:48:30pm

re: #181 Jay C

Unfortunately, there’s no vaccine against ignorance.
Nor does herd immunity seem to work, either.

When there’s a sucker born every minute, it’s hard for herd immunity to keep up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:49:36pm

re: #37 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Continuity of government is the other reason I forgot to put in my post, and it is a big one. People underestimate just how much gets disrupted when there is a mass exodus of seasoned and trained personnel.

Not one of trump’s appointees is “seasoned” nor “trained”.

Not a single one.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:50:52pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not one of trump’s appointees is “seasoned” nor “trained”.

Not a single one.

Seasoned, yes. They’ve held the positions for some amount of time. I didn’t say they were well seasoned. Though maybe they will be, with salt and pepper, if they skate from the horrific damage they’ve done and the vast unwashed break out the pitchforks and torches.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:53:05pm
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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:54:59pm

Gaetz has bigger problems than his salacious side stuff…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:56:45pm

Whomever gave me my 53,000 karma points Thanks. There will be Champagne a little later this evening.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:56:48pm

re: #172 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Forget about it? They’ll laud him for it. Also, they’ll make her out to be a whore and imply that she is a gold-digger or seeking to discredit him, and isn’t to be believed.

To be fair, at 17 I was living away from home and managing my own affairs (my parents were out of the country). If people had suggested I was too young to manage my own sex life, I’d have laughed in their faces.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:56:57pm

re: #129 darthstar

So my wife and I had lunch at this wonderful Greek place a friend runs, and they have one of these fancy heated bidet seats in their bathroom…fast forward three days.

The adventure begins.

[Embedded content]

Toto’s big advertising line, by the way, “Everyone deserves a happy bottom!”

It was wildly successful.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:57:53pm

re: #186 darthstar

Gaetz has bigger problems than his salacious side stuff…

Please let it be so.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 3:59:27pm

re: #144 TedStriker

Ooooh, me want…

*looks on Amazon*

$450 bucks. I can speak to Toto products. They are first rate.

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:01:39pm
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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:01:39pm

re: #191 austin_blue

$450 bucks. I can speak to Toto products. They are first rate.

Seconded.
We (well, Mrs. Jay, anyway) has been using the Toto seat for about a decade now.
Wouldn’t want to be without it….

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:03:10pm
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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:04:28pm

re: #181 Jay C

Unfortunately, there’s no vaccine against ignorance.
Nor does herd immunity seem to work, either.

Well, there *is* a cure for stupid, but put plastic sheets on the carpet before you take that step, or you’ll ruin your rugs.

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:06:19pm
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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:10:33pm

re: #196 jaunte

“Over the past several weeks my family and I have been victims of an organized criminal extortion involving a former DOJ official seeking $25 million while threatening to smear my name. We have been cooperating with federal authorities in this matter…”

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) March 30, 2021>>

Huh!! You’d think he’d call the extortion false, or ridiculous, or, well, something, right up front!

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:11:15pm
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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:14:38pm

re: #197 austin_blue

“Over the past several weeks my family and I have been victims of an organized criminal extortion involving a former DOJ official seeking $25 million while threatening to smear my name. We have been cooperating with federal authorities in this matter…”

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) March 30, 2021>>

Huh!! You’d think he’d call the extortion false, or ridiculous, or, well, something, right up front!

I like the fact that the investigation started under Barr in the Trump admin. If the Trump admin found it worthy of investigation, he’s screwed.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:15:23pm

re: #198 jaunte

And yet, he had to flap his cake hole, didn’t he?

And so Matt Gaetz —> No more self awareness than a dog licking its asshole on a street corner.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:15:44pm
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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:17:07pm

re: #196 jaunte

Gee, so the good Congressman decides to reveal the existence of this “organized criminal extortion” only AFTER reports of his jailbait-juggling go public?

Yeah, very credible…. ////

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:17:57pm

re: #201 nines09

Well, there is certainly no age where Gaetz was sexy.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:20:21pm

re: #203 austin_blue

He cruises grade school parking lots and it’s not for the mothers.

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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:21:33pm

This tweet didn’t age well.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:23:34pm

re: #205 darthstar

This tweet didn’t age well.

I think he just said he wants to take a deal.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:23:44pm
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darthstar  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:28:10pm

Protected tweet…
Pastor Dan lamenting that #floridaman isn’t trending.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:28:42pm

re: #207 nines09

And Greenberg and Stone are like:

“Gross! The fat floating head of that suck-up Matt Gaetz photobombed us!”

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:28:55pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:29:13pm

re: #152 Dangerman

and all very very small
easier to manage

[Embedded content]

Brazil is not a small country nor is Bangladesh. There are many first world developed nations there.

If an id is to be required, it needs to be free and conveniently available.

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KGxvi  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:29:24pm

re: #9 Belafon

Old white male voters. Women have to prove that their name change for marriage or divorce is their real name. And closing off mail in voting affected people who were disabled.

Republicans used to dominate mail/absentee voting. But Trump’s ranting against it likely contributed to them getting burned last year. Which, I mean, good, fuck them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:29:36pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:29:57pm

re: #198 jaunte

Matt Gaetz’ lawyer right now: “For the love of God man, SHUT UP!”

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:30:31pm

re: #209 austin_blue

They were comparing the best pickup lines for 16 year old girls.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:31:04pm

re: #210 nines09

Now *that’s* disturbing.

Does he look more like Alvin, Simon, or Theodore?

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KGxvi  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:34:19pm

re: #211 Hecuba’s daughter

Brazil is not a small country nor is Bangladesh. There are many first world developed nations there.

If an id is to be required, it needs to be free and conveniently available.

According to wikipedia, a lot of those countries have ID as a secondary thing. And in many cases, the “ID” includes things that don’t have a photo.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:35:05pm

I feel good great knowing Matt Gaetz is losing his shit right now.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:39:10pm

Dinner. Roast chicken, Mac ‘n’ cheese, ‘mater/cuke salad, and red wine. BBIAB.

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dat_said  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:39:19pm

Being self-centered, my first thought was “I wonder how many would show up at my house located in one of the ‘good’ Twin Cities suburban school districts?” instead of “wow, that’s crazy and unsustainable”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:40:38pm

re: #220 dat_said

Being self-centered, my first thought was “I wonder how many would show up at my house located in one of the ‘good’ Twin Cities suburban school districts?” instead of “wow, that’s crazy and unsustainable”.

That would have been my first thought, too. Cut yourself a break.

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prairiefire  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:42:16pm

Good school districts can add as much as 30% or more. (To home retail value)

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:42:19pm

Watch for the candy commercials.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:43:37pm
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dat_said  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:43:48pm

re: #221 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That would have been my first thought, too. Cut yourself a break.

I wasn’t apologizing or sorry for thinking that way. It’s just my way of an odd sort of humble brag.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:44:45pm

re: #225 dat_said

I wasn’t apologizing or sorry for thinking that way. It’s just my way of an odd sort of humble brag.

You’re definitely Minnesotan, ya betcha.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:44:46pm

Uh oh……………

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:46:07pm

re: #227 nines09

Uh oh……………

More like WOO HOOOO! 🍾

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:46:57pm

re: #227 nines09

And how many other things are going to break? A whole lot I hope.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:50:04pm

re: #229 PhillyPretzel

I used to say I did not need to be there when justice was served.
Now I want a front row seat.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:50:14pm

re: #229 PhillyPretzel

And how many other things are going to break? A whole lot I hope.

My it be Ever Given sized.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:51:28pm

re: #230 nines09

With plenty of pop-corn and soda. :)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:55:26pm
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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:56:21pm

re: #233 Dread Pirate Ron

Panic. Pure panic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:56:39pm

re: #147 Citizen K

Gaetz should have “adopted” her, like he did the boy…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:57:06pm

Please tell me that Nestor set him up?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:59:33pm

I just shaved my winter beard off. It’s 81 and my chin is cold.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 4:59:57pm

re: #233 Dread Pirate Ron

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Sorry, the odor of bullshit just billowed up like Etna on a bad day: if this is such a BFD “FBI” investigation, why is Gaetz suddenly blowing it on Twitter???

And who in their right mind would think that Matt Gaetz would be able to raise $25 mil in the first place??

And WTF is the “former DOJ official” supposedly putting the arm on him?
10 LGF Karma Points sez it’s a “Democrat” - he’ll probably try to finger Eric Holder….

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:01:36pm

re: #236 I Would Prefer Not To

Would be the ribbon on the gift this is.
I can see the Trump DOJ really investigating…..Yeah. Sure. Uh huh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:02:26pm

re: #172 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Forget about it? They’ll laud him for it. Also, they’ll make her out to be a whore and imply that she is a gold-digger or seeking to discredit him, and isn’t to be believed.

Matt Gaetz was the only Republican who defended Katie Hill and did not feel she needed to resign. I always thought his reaction reflected his concern that if his personal life became public he would suffer the same fate. Any district that willingly elected him repeatedly is a diehard GOP district who would vote for a rattlesnake if it had an R after its name.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:06:31pm

Asshole.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:08:53pm

re: #241 DodgerFan1988

Huh? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Someone should yank Fox’s FCC license.

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ipsos  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:10:19pm

G. Gordon Liddy has died.

Raise your hand if you thought he was already dead.

(raises hand)

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b.d. (America is Great Again)  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:12:32pm

Time to blame the dems!

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:12:42pm

re: #243 ipsos

G. Gordon Liddy has died.

Raise your hand if you thought he was already dead.

(raises hand)

They say things come in 3’s!

1) Gaetz caught with 17 year old girl
2) Liddy Dies
3) ?????????

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b.d. (America is Great Again)  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:13:25pm

re: #243 ipsos

G. Gordon Liddy has died.

Raise your hand if you thought he was already dead.

(raises hand)

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:13:52pm

Let me guess!

Gaetz and Insanity will bring up Hunter Biden’s alleged gun…

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:15:55pm

So has Liddy met Nixon in Hell yet?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:16:29pm

re: #245 🌹UOJB!

They say things come in 3’s!

1) Gaetz caught with 17 year old girl
2) Liddy Dies
3) ?????????

Trump lost his bid to silence people with an NDA.

Trump lost his ability to shit down his sexual abusers because “can’t sue the president” is now moot.

More! Please!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:16:31pm

re: #248 🌹UOJB!

He bumped into Rush first.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:17:23pm

re: #220 dat_said

[Embedded content]

Being self-centered, my first thought was “I wonder how many would show up at my house located in one of the ‘good’ Twin Cities suburban school districts?” instead of “wow, that’s crazy and unsustainable”.

I promised my wife that we’d buy a home once we knew we were staying and we paid down our debt. We’ve done both, but now the market is insane here. I’m worried that our landlord, who has been cool as heck to us, will want to sell and we’ll have nowhere to go. There’s nothing to rent and very little to buy that isn’t way in the hills, and even that is now gobbled up by the kinds of homes that the Ghislaine Maxwells of the world scoop up on a whim. I’m really anxious.

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A Three Hour Tour  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:17:26pm

re: #242 PhillyPretzel

Huh? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Someone should yank Fox’s FCC license.

Fox News Channel doesn’t have an FCC license to yank.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:17:26pm

Hmmmm I wonder if THE DICK and HIS DAUGHTER found out about Matt’s 17 year old?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:18:27pm

re: #243 ipsos

G. Gordon Liddy has died.

Raise your hand if you thought he was already dead.

(raises hand)

And not because you’re holding a burning candle under your palm.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:20:02pm

re: #241 DodgerFan1988

I’m so happy that everyone (except Fox of course) is catching on to the fact that Peter Navarro is a fucking racist lunatic. I don’t care if he’s registered as a democrat and worked with the Clinton Administration. He’s a fucking racist lunatic.

If I’m ever at another seminar where they think it’s a good idea to have him speak about China policy (and I’ve had to sit through his bullshit in such a forum once already), if I can work past the anxiety to bitch loudly, or confront him on his bullshit I will. Otherwise I’m walking out.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:21:45pm

re: #255 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I couldn’t be in the same room with Navarro unless I had my hands on a crucifix and carried a bag with a wooden stake, holy water and a mallet.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:25:27pm

re: #217 KGxvi

According to wikipedia, a lot of those countries have ID as a secondary thing. And in many cases, the “ID” includes things that don’t have a photo.

New Zealand has no national ID. A driver’s licence, passport, or Kiwi Access card is the de facto photo identification. The last of these is primarily to provide proof of legal drinking age where you don’t posses the other two forms of identification.

The standard “voter ID” used for our elections is a small card, printed on heavy paper, mailed out to every voter on the rolls by the Electoral Commission. You take it with you to the polls, the poll worker takes it off you, crosses out your name in a copy of the roll for your electorate, and hands you your voting papers.

Postal and early voting are no more onerous.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:25:31pm

Just waiting for Gaetz to say…“I did not have sex with that woman, er, teen, er, girl…”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:27:15pm

re: #255 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’m so happy that everyone (except Fox of course) is catching on to the fact that Peter Navarro is a fucking racist lunatic. I don’t care if he’s registered as a democrat and worked with the Clinton Administration. He’s a fucking racist lunatic.

If I’m ever at another seminar where they think it’s a good idea to have him speak about China policy (and I’ve had to sit through his bullshit in such a forum once already), if I can work past the anxiety to bitch loudly, or confront him on his bullshit I will. Otherwise I’m walking out.

The two craziest anti-China kooks were Navarro and Stephen Moore (ok, there are many of them) and they easily found their way into the administration. But once they put up a couple of tariffs, they were only around to talk bigly and kiss Trump’s ass biggerly. We need a measured approach to China, I believe. They are not adversaries, but our most important competitor. And we need to maintain that distinction because we need to cooperate with China on a range of issues. I think these guys share a lot of blame with Trump for the anti-China/Asian sentiment we’re seeing now.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:27:52pm

re: #258 🌹UOJB!

Just waiting for Gaetz to say…“I did not have sex with that woman, er, teen, er, girl…”

“Nestor, come in here and corroborate!”

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:30:44pm

If there is a stained blue dress I’m going to the cannabis store and splurge on the Colorado Candy Bars!

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Nojay UK  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:32:10pm

re: #152 Dangerman

The UK doesn’t require voter ID, I don’t know why it’s on that list.

We have an Electoral Register, that’s a bit like the US registration to vote system but it’s more inclusive, being resident and eligible gets you placed on the Register automatically. When an election is forthcoming (we have Scottish Parliamentary elections on May 8th, by coincidence) the Electoral Commission sends out a reminder card to all voters on the Registers saying which ward they’re registered in, where they can vote, the date of the election, what the election is for and the like.

I like to vote in person if I can and I usually take my reminder card to the poll because it’s got all the info the poll operators need but I don’t have to, I could just turn up and give my name and address, no specific ID required.

Personation is a specific criminal offence, pretending to be someone else and voting in their place but it happens so infrequently it’s headline news when someone actually does it.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:35:06pm

re: #262 Nojay UK

The UK doesn’t require voter ID, I don’t know why it’s on that list.

I think it’s perfectly clear now that it’s because the list is a work of fiction.

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JC1  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:35:53pm

re: #152 Dangerman

and all very very small
easier to manage

In fairness, India is 1+ Billion people and quite large.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:36:08pm

re: #262 Nojay UK

The UK doesn’t require voter ID, I don’t know why it’s on that list.

Long lists like that remind me of the “30,000 scientists” who declared that AGW was false. Etc.

It’s a typical propaganda tactic.

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:38:11pm

re: #257 Grunthos the Flatulent

I don’t know about other states, but IL has a voter’s registration card, to carry in your wallet.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:38:27pm

::: pulling out large tub filled with iced Champagne:::

As I promised earlier today in honor of hitting 53,000 Karma points.

::: pouring Champagne for the room :::

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:41:14pm

That Gaetz is being investigated for sex trafficking is unsurprising. That he’s admitting that it somehow involves someone who is underage means that he’s being investigated for child sex trafficking. His own statements essentially corroborate the sex trafficking bit, and he’s quibbling over the child part.

He is entirely fucked (legal opinion).

He was trying to get ahead of it by floating notion of quitting Congress early to work for Newsmax.

The final straw of his dumbfuckery is that he botched a separate investigation by exposing his father was wearing a wire in an FBI investigation.

So fuck all of them and here’s hoping he spends a good long time in a federal B&B.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:44:16pm

re: #268 lawhawk

The final straw of his dumbfuckery is that he botched a separate investigation by exposing his father was wearing a wire in an FBI investigation.

Who does this? Who announces on the Internet they or someone in their family is wearing a wire?

Maybe he really is Mr. Head (as in Butthead).

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:46:02pm

“Hey Beavis… I’m like going to move to Florida, and like run for Congress or some thing.”

“Heh heh heh eh heh no way asswipe!”

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:46:21pm

re: #268 lawhawk

That Gaetz is being investigated for sex trafficking is unsurprising. That he’s admitting that it somehow involves someone who is underage means that he’s being investigated for child sex trafficking. His own statements essentially corroborate the sex trafficking bit, and he’s quibbling over the child part.

He is entirely fucked (legal opinion).

He was trying to get ahead of it by floating notion of quitting Congress early to work for Newsmax.

The final straw of his dumbfuckery is that he botched a separate investigation by exposing his father was wearing a wire in an FBI investigation.

So fuck all of them and here’s hoping he spends a good long time in a federal B&B.

That’s what stuck out to me: He’s not denying he had sex with this “ex-girlfriend,” he’s denying that she was underage. And yet he thinks his best defense is to present himself as the “victim” in all this by concocting this story of “extortion” that the FBI allegedly is covering up to protect one of their own.

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:49:48pm

Gaetz claims he’s being smeared to “take him out of the conversation.”
As if he had something to say.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:50:41pm

re: #268 lawhawk

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:51:46pm
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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:53:34pm

re: #274 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That’s #3!

1) Gaetz played Ding Dong School with a teenager
2) Liddy Died
3) Judge kills Trump’s NDA’s

HOT DAMN!!!!

COLORADO CANDY BAR TIME!

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:53:40pm

re: #272 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Gaetz claims he’s being smeared to “take him out of the conversation.”
As if he had something to say.

Simplest explanation: He intended to “retire” to take up a job at Newsmax in order to get ahead of the allegations. But now that they’re out there, that job offer is likely to get quickly rescinded as he’s been rendered radioactive.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:55:19pm

It had never occurred to me, but someone posted a kind of “don’t fuck with the Cheneys” and it all kind of falls into place.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:55:51pm

re: #257 Grunthos the Flatulent

New Zealand has no national ID. A driver’s licence, passport, or Kiwi Access card is the de facto photo identification. The last of these is primarily to provide proof of legal drinking age where you don’t posses the other two forms of identification.

The standard “voter ID” used for our elections is a small card, printed on heavy paper, mailed out to every voter on the rolls by the Electoral Commission. You take it with you to the polls, the poll worker takes it off you, crosses out your name in a copy of the roll for your electorate, and hands you your voting papers.

Postal and early voting are no more onerous.

That’s how it worked here until about ten years ago when Republicans here in Texas needed to keep more blacks and Latinos off the rolls.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:56:25pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:58:32pm

re: #279 nines09

[Embedded content]

Live look at Matt’s attorney as he gave this interview:

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:58:47pm

re: #279 nines09

I was thinking the panic was audio or video evidence.
No problem. Matt can counter sue and go under oath and clear himself.

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 5:59:59pm

Shocking, innit?

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:00:55pm
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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:01:46pm

Gaetz implicates… Tucker Carlson in improprieties?

Wait. What?

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:02:47pm

After getting elected:

“See Beavis I’m in Congress now. So ummm I can like get money and chicks!”

“No way asswipe!”

*High school girls enter*

“Hi, I’m Lolita and this here is Tanqueray. Do you want to go somewhere and make out or something?”

“I’m going to score…”

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:03:28pm

Via LG&M:

Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro isn’t having a good week/month/year: in addition to the country taking over the “COVID Death Spot #1” distinction, all three of Brazil’s military services resigned in unison, as a protest against Bolsonaro’s misgovernment.
Kinda like the opposite of a coup, though: usually the President goes, and the generals stay: but it’s still pretty unprecedented. More to come, I’m sure.

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danarchy  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:04:09pm

re: #269 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Who does this? Who announces on the Internet they or someone in their family is wearing a wire?

Maybe he really is Mr. Head (as in Butthead).

On Tucker he claimed the sting was already blown by the nyt article because the information they were being blackmailed with had been made public so the cash exchang e that was supposed to happen tomorrow was off.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:07:06pm

re: #266 retired cynic

I don’t know about other states, but IL has a voter’s registration card, to carry in your wallet.

But I’ve never had to produce it to vote.

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Nojay UK  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:07:28pm

re: #279 nines09

It sorts of makes sense, Gaetz’ claim of someone saying they have photo evidence of him with child prostitutes — assume that in the real world there are no pictures because even he wasn’t stupid enough to go there. That means there’s no evidence so “someone” saying that there are such pictures is a lie. That means the accusations of under-age sex are also lies because the two accusations look the same and one is a lie so the other accusation is false too. QED.

Basically say anything and everything like an octopus spraying squid ink, scuttle scuttle scuttle and hide under a rock for a while and hope the news cycle finds another Shiny! real quick. Isn’t it about time for another Hunter Biden revelation?

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:08:09pm

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:08:28pm

re: #287 danarchy

On Tucker he claimed the sting was already blown by the nyt article because the information they were being blackmailed with had been made public so the cash exchang e that was supposed to happen tomorrow was off.

The only way such makes sense is if Matty is trying to implicate the DOJ/FBI in a cover-up, that the target of this alleged “extortion” sting knew that the sting was coming and burned Gaetz preemptively.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:08:40pm

Matt has Tweets. Boy oh boy.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:11:03pm

re: #283 Belafon

Yet the Judge has the nerve to chastise her. He’s showing his bias.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:14:59pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:15:33pm

re: #287 danarchy

On Tucker he claimed the sting was already blown by the nyt article because the information they were being blackmailed with had been made public so the cash exchange that was supposed to happen tomorrow was off.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:15:48pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Treasonous fuck Liddy dies at 90.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:17:36pm

re: #294 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I wonder if “High-Pockets” knew about this before recording his podcast today.

That said I thought he was already dead years ago.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:18:40pm

If you aren’t watching Rachel, tune in!

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:21:22pm
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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:25:29pm

re: #293 Patricia Kayden

Yet the Judge has the nerve to chastise her. He’s showing his bias.

There are people in the replies thinking it hurts her credibility.

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:26:43pm

So Matty’s “defense” is that his dad was approached on March 16th by a retired DOJ official who demanded $25m or else he’d go to the press with false allegations that Matt had engaged in sex trafficking with an underaged girl. So his dad immediately went to the local FBI office, who asked him to wear a wire in order to catch the alleged ex-DOJ official on tape detailing the extortion. And the whole thing was supposed to end in a sting tomorrow that would catch the guy, which is why he went to the NYT tonight to burn Matt with this story. And is demanding the FBI make the tapes of this alleged conversation public to prove his innocence.

Atop this, Gaetz also insists that the DOJ tried to get a woman he brought to a dinner with Tucker Carlson and his wife to accuse Matt of…something, apparently hoping that Tucker would give back him up on live TV by suddenly “remembering” this dinner and the woman in question (spoiler: Tucker doesn’t remember).

And Matt babbled about how the alleged ex-official also claimed to have pictures of him engaged in sex with kids, which he insisted don’t exist and so will never be made public.

It says something that once he came back from commercial, Tucker characterized this as the weirdest interview he’s ever conducted.

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gwangung  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:27:03pm

re: #300 Belafon

There are people in the replies thinking it hurts her credibility.

Those are the ones who’d never give her credibility in the first place.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:27:11pm

re: #300 Belafon

There are people in the replies thinking it hurts her credibility.

they are the obligatory morons

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:27:24pm

Casey, I’d like to make a long distance dedication to Matt Gaetz!

Rick James - 17

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:28:47pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:29:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:32:13pm
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DodgerFan1988  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:32:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:33:20pm
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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:33:26pm

Fucker’s toast:

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:33:41pm

re: #308 DodgerFan1988

Guys in the studio; “Who farted?”

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:34:27pm

Oh, and I forgot to mention that at the beginning of the interview, Matt made a point of saying “17 year old woman,” which is an odd thing to put emphasis upon when you’re trying to deny engaging in sex trafficking with an underage girl.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:36:06pm

re: #312 Targetpractice

“How did you know she was a “woman”?”
The candy didn’t work.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:37:26pm

re: #310 lawhawk

Fucker’s toast:

Watch for the “ …but she was hot. “ defense starting later tomorrow.

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:39:18pm

The definition of protesting too much.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:40:19pm

re: #305 nines09

Sadly the tweet is gone.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:41:45pm
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b.d. (America is Great Again)  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:41:45pm

How many dinners with pedophiles has Tucker had?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:42:24pm

re: #314 Florida Panhandler

Watch for the “ …but she was hot. “ defense starting later tomorrow.

she was a temptress….

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:42:53pm

Trump’s 2016 Kentucky campaign chair agreed to spend 20 years in prison for human trafficking. (Eligible for parole in 2022).

Nolan faced more than 100 years in prison on 28 felony charges, including four counts of human trafficking of a minor. The total number of victims covered by the 21 charges he pleaded to is 19, including some juveniles.

cincinnati.com

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:43:42pm

re: #316 Belafon

Huh. He’s done that before.
No idea why.

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nines09  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:44:10pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Well she dressed like an older woman.”

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:50:49pm

re: #318 b.d. (America is Great Again)

He does hang out with wealthy Republicans.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:53:09pm

re: #314 Florida Panhandler

Watch for the “ …but she was hot. “ defense starting later tomorrow.

“She was 18! She showed me her ID!!”

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 30, 2021 • 6:55:03pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:04:33pm

re: #308 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

I’m all filled with fraudenshade.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:04:43pm

Tweets that haven’t aged well for $100 Alex:

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:05:32pm

What stands out to me about Gaetz’s interview…is that Tucker was effectively an observer. He sat there and allowed Matt to hang himself on live TV, seemingly at a loss of how to steer this interview in a direction that would look and sound less incriminating. When the alleged dinner was brought up, Tucker could only lamely say he didn’t remember the woman that Matt claims he brought as a guest.

I’m not sure you could have orchestrated a more damning display short of his declaring on live TV that “THE BITCH SET ME UP!!!”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:05:58pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

she was a temptress….

My whole life I was waiting for one….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:06:07pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:07:20pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Party of “small government” declaring that they will tell private businesses who they can and can’t do business with.

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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:07:44pm

I thought we were done with nonstop Friday night news dumps… Guess that’s what 2021 decided to do as a encore to 2020…

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jaunte  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:08:35pm

re: #332 lawhawk

Good news.

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:12:41pm
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lawhawk  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:13:14pm

We knew that DHS officials were among those hacked by Russians in the Solar Winds breach. Well, that includes DHS Chair Chad Wolf.

Trump did nothing. He let Russia walk all over the US and furthered Russia’s interests.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:14:44pm

“The allegations of sexual misconduct against me are false” said initially by every piece of garbage found to have participated in sexual misconduct

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plansbandc  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:15:08pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s down for any policy that has the potential to kill more people.

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Jay C  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:16:56pm

No ln re: #335 lawhawk

We knew that DHS officials were among those hacked by Russians in the Solar Winds breach. Well, that includes DHS Chair Chad Wolf.

Trump did nothing. He let Russia walk all over the US and furthered Russia’s interests.

I hope Biden’s new crew have taken at least SOME cybersecurity measures to try to ensure that this doesn’t happen again.

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:21:44pm

re: #332 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

I thought we were done with nonstop Friday night news dumps… Guess that’s what 2021 decided to do as a encore to 2020…

Two policemen suing Trump.

Holy Shaving Cream, That’s 4 great things today!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:21:46pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:24:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:25:29pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:25:31pm
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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:26:12pm

re: #311 nines09

Guys in the studio; “Who farted?”

Here? It was my skunk. My stink weasel. GAH!

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:28:22pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Who wants to bet that Fucker Carlson called his lawyer right after tonight’s show?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:30:13pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:30:55pm

re: #345 🌹UOJB!

Who wants to bet that Fucker Carlson called his lawyer right after tonight’s show?

Matt not only brought up a past “false” allegation made against Tucker, but then tried to use him to establish an alibi. If their friendship isn’t over after tonight, it’s gonna need some serious rehab. “Sorry I involved you in my sex scandal” is not something that usually gets smoothed over with a couple of beers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:32:20pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:34:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:34:41pm
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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:35:43pm
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Semper Fi  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:45:24pm

I always thought kneeling on the neck was reserved for those exhibiting violent resistance and ended when the guy was hog-tied. These cops were on George Floyd but didn’t seem to be restraining him as Floyd didn’t appear to be offering any resistance from the beginning. They remained on his dead body until the ambulance arrived.

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Semper Fi  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:49:25pm

I think I killed the thread.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 30, 2021 • 7:50:23pm

re: #351 Belafon

(prays) Dear God. Please don’t let me like Joe Walsh.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:02:44pm

Matt Gaetz: “a couple years ago we had dinner. She was there. You’ll remember her!”

Tucker Carlson: “New phone, who’s this?”

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sagehen  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:05:26pm

re: #351 Belafon

[Embedded content]

not almost nine minutes; more than nine minutes. Streetcam from another angle shows this clearly.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:06:22pm
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A Mom Anon  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:08:24pm

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:10:06pm

re: #358 A Mom Anon

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plansbandc  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:14:22pm

re: #358 A Mom Anon

bdPkXEFsk3l2YNdnaBjMZZ5BNbkcF50O2RcBYYRmqP6rjCMxO66FNA==

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:14:32pm

re: #358 A Mom Anon

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:21:11pm

Decided to pop in on re: #357 The Pie Overlord!

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The response over at FR is total denial. They’re absolutely convinced that not only is Gaetz being totally truthful, but that the whole thing is (unsurprisingly) a coordinated hit job by the DOJ to destroy Gaetz. And there seems to be a growing undercurrent that I imagine to crest tomorrow: That this is all somehow “revenge” for Hillary and “Emailgate.” How could that be when the whole thing started under Barr? Obviously Barr was “Deep State,” he wanted to protect the DOJ and so started an FBI investigation…that was kept quiet until after the election, because he wanted to just suddenly spring all of this months after he’d left office.

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wrenchwench  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:25:30pm

re: #359 retired cynic

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stpaulbear  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:27:01pm

re: #220 dat_said

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Being self-centered, my first thought was “I wonder how many would show up at my house located in one of the ‘good’ Twin Cities suburban school districts?” instead of “wow, that’s crazy and unsustainable”.

I’m thinking the same thing. My house is in an urban neighborhood that has become ‘hot’ over the last few years (it was definitely not hot when I moved in). I joined the waiting list for a senior co-op about a year ago, and I’m hoping that it hasn’t peaked before the unit I like opens up.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:34:46pm

re: #362 Targetpractice

Decided to pop in on

The response over at FR is total denial. They’re absolutely convinced that not only is Gaetz being totally truthful, but that the whole thing is (unsurprisingly) a coordinated hit job by the DOJ to destroy Gaetz. And there seems to be a growing undercurrent that I imagine to crest tomorrow: That this is all somehow “revenge” for Hillary and “Emailgate.” How could that be when the whole thing started under Barr? Obviously Barr was “Deep State,” he wanted to protect the DOJ and so started an FBI investigation…that was kept quiet until after the election, because he wanted to just suddenly spring all of this months after he’d left office.

“Then explain why it started under Barr.”

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🌹UOJB!  Mar 30, 2021 • 8:34:55pm

re: #358 A Mom Anon

c6rL+N5s0PDEanJHlNOFdIz8yp2vwaR7qMK2hZx99hEHLqCMmhnsvQ==

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Mattand  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:14:13pm

re: #96 Belafon

The real question is whether he thinks the person living 30 miles outside of Cheyenne should have to pay more for his prescriptions to be delivered than someone in Dallas does.

Probably, under the “They should move if it’s that much of a problem” shit response.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 30, 2021 • 9:40:37pm

re: #358 A Mom Anon

Sending strength and positive vibes.


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