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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2021 • 10:59:04am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:12:32am

From downstairs:
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re: #275 DesertDenizen

I am not surprised. France has a long history of granting citizenship to immigrants who have performed a great service. A few years back they did so for a young man who Spider-Man climbed up a building to rescue a dangling toddler.

Yeah, I recall that. Quite amazing and the young man certainly did the right thing, not choosing to just hang back and be a bystander.

Malian hero scales Paris building to save child

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:14:29am

re: #2 Dr Lizardo

From downstairs:
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Yeah, I recall that. Quite amazing and the young man certainly did the right thing, not choosing to just hang back and be a bystander.

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I believe that they not only granted him citizenship but also fulfilled his otherwise impossible dream of becoming a firefighter. Quite a hero.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:18:30am
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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:24:11am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Glenn like apartheid states.

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IngisKahn  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:29:19am

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:29:57am

re: #6 IngisKahn

ROFL

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:30:52am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Equal, not outsized

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:34:53am

Now this is some old-school self-defense. Real old school, LOL

Robber pulls out machete; Clerk pulls out sword

“So I use this one, when I see him with the sword, to make him afraid.” I’d say it worked quite nicely.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:36:53am

re: #8 Dangerman

Equal, not outsized

Right. What other system in the world has a tyranny of the minority/ridiculous anti-democratic institution? And in what universe does it make sense that a population the size of DC is not represented in Congress? Didn’t we fight a rather important war over a similar circumstance?

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:37:49am

re: #10 Mike Lamb

Right. What other system in the world has a tyranny of the minority/ridiculous anti-democratic institution? And in what universe does it make sense that a population the size of DC is not represented in Congress? Didn’t we fight a rather important war over a similar circumstance?

But those unrepresented people were white.

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plansbandc  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:39:48am

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sagehen  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:40:01am

At least DC can vote in presidential elections, they have 3 electoral votes, and Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Puerto Rico has more American citizens than Wyoming, Montana and both Dakotas all added together. Zero members of the House, zero Senators, zero electoral votes.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:40:24am

re: #8 Dangerman

Equal, not outsized

And sweet jay-zeus, calling it “tyrannical” and “repressive” to want to change a system that is, in fact, repressive and tyrannical to more populous states is just too much. Does Greenwald really think the idea behind the Senate was to have a single senator get to play king maker on important legislation? Is he out of his fucking mind?

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Mike Lamb  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:41:59am

re: #14 Mike Lamb

And sweet jay-zeus, calling it “tyrannical” and “repressive” to want to change a system that is, in fact, repressive and tyrannical to more populous states is just too much. Does Greenwald really think the idea behind the Senate was to have a single senator get to play king maker on important legislation? Is he out of his fucking mind?

And as long as North and South Dakota exist as separate states, he can fuck right off about gaming the system.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:43:28am

re: #14 Mike Lamb

And sweet jay-zeus, calling it “tyrannical” and “repressive” to want to change a system that is, in fact, repressive and tyrannical to more populous states is just too much. Does Greenwald really think the idea behind the Senate was to have a single senator get to play king maker on important legislation? Is he out of his fucking mind?

Glenn won’t take a whiz without getting Putin’s permission.

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Teukka  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:44:09am

re: #9 Dr Lizardo

Now this is some old-school self-defense. Real old school, LOL

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Video

“So I use this one, when I see him with the sword, to make him afraid.” I’d say it worked quite nicely.

Really old skool would be a huge Halberd like Rory Mercury’s… :P

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:45:12am

Greenwald is neither left wing nor right wing. He’s a nihilist libertarian - a fancy term for “asshole.”

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:46:17am

Greenwald might be a Russian asset, I wouldn’t rule it out. But he’s the kind of person who would do this shit for free anyway.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:49:39am
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austin_blue  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:51:54am

re: #20 jaunte

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No tongue! No tongue! I’m saving myself for divorce!

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:53:18am

re: #20 jaunte

Wow! That seems to be a mutual dislike. What a great couple.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:54:38am

re: #20 jaunte

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Looks like he learned to kiss from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:56:51am

re: #20 jaunte

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Hawley graduated from the Eric Greitens School Of Seduction.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:58:30am
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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 11:59:28am

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

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You can’t be selfish and claim to be patriotic.

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sagehen  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:08:21pm

hey Philly pretzel… have you been watching the PBS series Philly D.A., about Larry Krasner? What think you, about him and about the documentary? (and what thinks the city in general about him?)

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:09:15pm

On a zoom call and one of the guys has a treadmill desk, so he’s walking in front of his forest background and it’s really annoying.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:10:31pm

re: #27 sagehen

No I am not watching that series. There are a few bill boards around the city calling for his firing so from that I can see not many people like him.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:10:33pm

re: #28 darthstar

On a zoom call and one of the guys has a treadmill desk, so he’s walking in front of his forest background and it’s really annoying.

He needs videos of things exploding behind him.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:11:48pm
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ericblair  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:13:10pm

re: #10 Mike Lamb

Right. What other system in the world has a tyranny of the minority/ridiculous anti-democratic institution? And in what universe does it make sense that a population the size of DC is not represented in Congress? Didn’t we fight a rather important war over a similar circumstance?

Most of them, unfortunately, depending on what you consider a minority. Any worldwide democracy index looks pretty bad.

The US has a problem where there is a shrinking and increasingly crazy minority is exploiting the zillion veto points in an archaic system where the inventors were pretty leery of this democracy thing, plus an ingrained reflex that This Is The Way It Is and can’t be changed. In a software context you’d call it cruft, and unlike continental Europe we haven’t had a foreign occupation to rewrite the whole codebase from scratch.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:21:02pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:23:50pm

re: #28 darthstar

On a zoom call and one of the guys has a treadmill desk, so he’s walking in front of his forest background and it’s really annoying.

Never heard of a treadmill desk before. Now I have to look them up.

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lawhawk  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:25:58pm

re: #31 jaunte

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:29:25pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

Never heard of a treadmill desk before. Now I have to look them up.

I had one at my previous office…was kind of cool. Basically a standing desk with a belt under it.

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:31:56pm

re: #32 ericblair

Most of them, unfortunately, depending on what you consider a minority. Any worldwide democracy index looks pretty bad.

The US has a problem where there is a shrinking and increasingly crazy minority is exploiting the zillion veto points in an archaic system where the inventors were pretty leery of this democracy thing, plus an ingrained reflex that This Is The Way It Is and can’t be changed. In a software context you’d call it cruft, and unlike continental Europe we haven’t had a foreign occupation to rewrite the whole codebase from scratch.

The Framer’s original vision collapsed pretty quickly, and we’ve been restuccoing the facade ever since. The appointment of Senators and Electors quickly became the dominant issue in most state legislative elections, to the point that the state legislatures (mostly) pretty quickly set up elections for those offices.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:33:56pm

re: #37 KGxvi

The Framer’s original vision collapsed pretty quickly, and we’ve been restuccoing the facade ever since. The appointment of Senators and Electors quickly became the dominant issue in most state legislative elections, to the point that the state legislatures (mostly) pretty quickly set up elections for those offices.

I can’t even imagine how terrible our Arizona Senators would be if our whackadoodle fascist adjacent Legislature got to pick them. We’d have Kelli Ward and Joe Arpaio at best.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:40:46pm

The filibuster is nuts because small states are already heavily overrepresented in the Senate. To also require a supermajority to pass any legislation is simply a recipe for gridlock. It doesn’t encourage compromise, only obstruction. Compromise legislation is what you get when a bill passes that everyone from Bernie Sanders to Joe Manchin votes for. There is no way to get 10 GOP votes for anything worth doing.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:42:38pm

re: #36 darthstar

I had one at my previous office…was kind of cool. Basically a standing desk with a belt under it.

To do it right, you put a generator on the belt rather than a motor, and power your monitor while you work. The workday does become more of a marathon than usual.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:47:24pm

re: #40 Punish Domestic Terrorists

To do it right, you put a generator on the belt rather than a motor, and power your monitor while you work. The workday does become more of a marathon than usual.

If wi-fi was powered by treadmills or exercise bikes we’d be the most fit society ever.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:47:33pm

I wish this front would go through the area. I have a bad headache and aches in my shoulders from it.
wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:49:46pm

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

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massive access to stupidity

though that doesnt explain 1918 so much

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:50:29pm

Heheheh.

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lawhawk  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:50:53pm

re: #39 No Malarkey!

The filibuster is nuts because small states are already heavily overrepresented in the Senate. To also require a supermajority to pass any legislation is simply a recipe for gridlock. It doesn’t encourage compromise, only obstruction. Compromise legislation is what you get when a bill passes that everyone from Bernie Sanders to Joe Manchin votes for. There is no way to get 10 GOP votes for anything worth doing.

The whole reason we have these omnibus bills that are chock full of stuff that may or may not be 100% related to the original intent has entirely to do with the filibuster. When you are the party of obstructionism and sabotage, you will block everything, no matter how important or critical. That’s how the VRA remains without authorization. It’s how the GOP have completely fucked up the legislative process and we have to rely on a parliamentarian to say that a bill is okay to move ahead on reconciliation or it remains in a legislative graveyard, joining everything from gun control to immigration reform, to voting and civil rights.

Eliminate the filibuster, and all these bills would proceed with regular order, and get up/down votes. Reform the filibuster, and you’d force the GOP to stand there and actually oppose on the merits (they have none, but that wont stop them from trying to sabotage and delay).

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JC1  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:51:22pm

re: #13 sagehen

At least DC can vote in presidential elections, they have 3 electoral votes, and Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Puerto Rico has more American citizens than Wyoming, Montana and both Dakotas all added together. Zero members of the House, zero Senators, zero electoral votes.

And in exchange, residents of PR don’t pay IRS/federal taxes on income derived from PR.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:52:35pm

re: #35 lawhawk

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i just had to explain to someone how their marginal rate went up while the effective rate went down. fun times.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:52:36pm

Conservative performer confused by conservative performances.

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lawhawk  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:54:10pm

re: #48 jaunte

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:54:16pm

re: #45 lawhawk

The GOP hasn’t had an actual political idea or real policy beyond tax cuts since I was a child. I came of political age during Clinton’s Impeachment and Newt’s Contract With America. I don’t believe we have had an actual functioning Federal Government since then, courtesy of the GOP.

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:54:59pm

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

Faux News happened.

I was at lunch today and the local pawn shop owner was talking about how he’s going to the school board meeting to say that since the GQP majority on the state supreme court struck down the state wide mask requirement, they schools can’t force the teachers/bus drivers/students/etc to wear a mask because “Freedumb”. He’s not all that stupid and not even impossibly right wing but that fucking Faux garbage is playing on the TV in his shop all day long and he doesn’t get that they’re lying through their teeth to him.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:55:50pm

re: #49 lawhawk

Or where local right wing politicians lie about the situation and put on a performance for their right wing voters, a la Jan Brewer finger wagging Obama.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:56:14pm

re: #44 William Lewis

Heheheh.

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Damn, he looks like an evil Winky Dink!

Winky Dink and You

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:57:43pm

re: #51 William Lewis

Arizona’s governor struck down school mask requirements and even conservative districts are ignoring him and maintaining masking.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:57:56pm

re: #39 No Malarkey!

The filibuster is nuts because small states are already heavily overrepresented in the Senate. To also require a supermajority to pass any legislation is simply a recipe for gridlock. It doesn’t encourage compromise, only obstruction. Compromise legislation is what you get when a bill passes that everyone from Bernie Sanders to Joe Manchin votes for. There is no way to get 10 GOP votes for anything worth doing.

lets be clear though we are talking about two things

- representation of the people - ie 2 senators per state - in the constitution and hard to change and with some justification

- the rules of the senate. this is where the real problems lie. mechanically easily changeable, but politics…

ok, and third that a large bunch of pseudo-brains think every senate rule is inviolate, was there from ‘the start’ in it’s current form and use, and is exactly what the ‘framer’s intended (when it’s to their benefit).

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:58:08pm

re: #50 DesertDenizen

The GOP hasn’t had an actual political idea or real policy beyond tax cuts since I was a child. I came of political age during Clinton’s Impeachment and Newt’s Contract With America. I don’t believe we have had an actual functioning Federal Government since then, courtesy of the GOP.

Let’s give it its proper name: “Contract on America”.

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 12:58:25pm

re: #43 Dangerman

Annoyingly, there has always been a virulent strain of populism in the US. It takes many forms, and is not the sole domain of the left or right. From Jefferson’s “yeomen farmers” to Jacksonian Democracy to Huey Long and George Wallace to Ross Perot, Sarah Palin, Trump and Sanders.

Anti-elite/anti-expert, trust the people, every man a king, etc etc etc

It’s bred deep in the DNA of the country, part of the nation’s creation myths, really. Usually it can be tempered, but occasionally it becomes dominate and we end up fucking ourselves for a decade or two.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:01:52pm

re: #51 William Lewis

Faux News happened.

I was at lunch today and the local pawn shop owner was talking about how he’s going to the school board meeting to say that since the GQP majority on the state supreme court struck down the state wide mask requirement, they schools can’t force the teachers/bus drivers/students/etc to wear a mask because “Freedumb”. He’s not all that stupid and not even impossibly right wing but that fucking Faux garbage is playing on the TV in his shop all day long and he doesn’t get that they’re lying through their teeth to him.

and why would it matter one way or the other what teachers, bus drivers, students not in his shop, etc do?

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:02:46pm

re: #13 sagehen

At least DC can vote in presidential elections, they have 3 electoral votes, and Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Puerto Rico has more American citizens than Wyoming, Montana and both Dakotas all added together. Zero members of the House, zero Senators, zero electoral votes.

PR does have a non-voting delegate in the House. Jenniffer Gonzalez. She’s from the pro-statehood party The New Progressive Party, and caucuses with the Republicans in the House. And a good reminder that Puerto Rico statehood wouldn’t automatically benefit the Democratic Party in DC, more likely it would probably create another swing state.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:04:26pm

re: #57 KGxvi

Annoyingly, there has always been a virulent strain of populism in the US. It takes many forms, and is not the sole domain of the left or right. From Jefferson’s “yeomen farmers” to Jacksonian Democracy to Huey Long and George Wallace to Ross Perot, Sarah Palin, Trump and Sanders.

Anti-elite/anti-expert, trust the people, every man a king, etc etc etc

It’s bred deep in the DNA of the country, part of the nation’s creation myths, really. Usually it can be tempered, but occasionally it becomes dominate and we end up fucking ourselves for a decade or two.

interesting story, today’s bloomberg re: populism

Michael Strain: “Hawley, Cruz and other GOP politicians will likely find that their Trumpian style appeals to their party’s base, which remains enamored of the former president. But this style likely won’t appeal far outside it. These politicians seem to think they have the numbers on their side, representing ‘the people’ against a much smaller number of “elites.” They don’t. There is no silent majority.

“And the politics they are practicing is going to be less successful after years of rising wages than it was in 2016. The unemployment rate is currently 6%, and 2021 is going to see record-setting employment growth.”

“Populism peters out as incomes grow.
The sooner Republicans realize this, the better.”

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:04:38pm

re: #51 William Lewis

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:05:20pm

re: #55 Dangerman

lets be clear though we are talking about two things

- representation of the people - ie 2 senators per state - in the constitution and hard to change and with some justification

- the rules of the senate. this is where the real problems lie. mechanically easily changeable, but politics…

ok, and third that a large bunch of pseudo-brains think every senate rule is inviolate, was there from ‘the start’ in it’s current form and use, and is exactly what the ‘framer’s intended (when it’s to their benefit).

McConnell ended the filibuster when it stood in the way of getting a Justice confirmed that he wanted. If there was legislation he wanted to pass badly enough, he would end the filibuster to pass it. Instead he wants to keep the filibuster to block everything he doesn’t want to do.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:05:32pm

re: #49 lawhawk

He’s just salty that she isn’t to his southern border cos-play kink.

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:05:49pm

re: #59 KGxvi

PR does have a non-voting delegate in the House. Jenniffer Gonzalez. She’s from the pro-statehood party The New Progressive Party, and caucuses with the Republicans in the House. And a good reminder that Puerto Rico statehood wouldn’t automatically benefit the Democratic Party in DC, more likely it would probably create another swing state.

PR politics must be bizarre for the GOP to be so strong there.

Imagine a normal person caucusing with House Republicans. I’d be scared of catching something that would transform me into an idiot.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:06:21pm

re: #63 Mike Lamb

Hey, the man’s been officially taunted by “cartels.”

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:06:42pm

re: #63 Mike Lamb

He’s just salty that she isn’t to his southern border cos-play kink.

Yep. I saw a photo of the cosplaying Republicans sailing past a water park, dressed for war.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:07:35pm

re: #61 jaunte

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ditto my immuno compromised wife - who is fully vaccinated
ditto my 92 y/o mom - who is fully vaccinated
and the more or less healthy me - also fully vaccinated

we havent changed any habits and aren’t doing anything differently except for occasional lapses in strict and rigorous hand washing.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:09:14pm

re: #67 Dangerman

ditto my immuno compromised wife - who is fully vaccinated
ditto my 92 y/o mom - who is fully vaccinated
and the more or less healthy me - also fully vaccinated

we havent changed any habits and aren’t doing anything differently except for occasional lapses in strict and rigorous hand washing.

I’m planning on getting lunch at a restaurant with a couple of old friends next week, now that we are all vaccinated. The risk seems minimal.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:10:59pm

re: #60 Dangerman

That’s one more reason the GOP wants to keep wages low. Not only does it help their donors get richer, it gets them votes. Which is a massive ball of irony.

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:11:17pm

re: #64 EPR-radar

PR politics must be bizarre for the GOP to be so strong there.

Imagine a normal person caucusing with House Republicans. I’d be scared of catching something that would transform me into an idiot.

From what I’ve read about PR politics, most all of it centers around the statehood issue. There are two major parties - the New Progressives (pro-statehood) and the Popular Democratic Party (pro-status quo). Then there’s a third minor party that is pro-independence. The two major parties each get right around 47% of the popular vote.

So, Gonzalez (who caucuses with the House GOP) and the current governor, Pedro Pierluisi, are both in the NPP, but Pierluisi caucused with the Dems when he was the resident delegate.

Statehood is basically the driving issue in Puerto Rican politics, everything else is secondary.

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:13:25pm

re: #62 No Malarkey!

McConnell ended the filibuster when it stood in the way of getting a Justice confirmed that he wanted. If there was legislation he wanted to pass badly enough, he would end the filibuster to pass it. Instead he wants to keep the filibuster to block everything he doesn’t want to do.

This. The only laws Republicans actually want to pass are tax cuts, which can be done via reconciliation. That means keeping the filibuster in place is 100.000% to the advantage of Republicans.

Of course, if/when Democrats actually eliminate the filibuster, Republicans will naturally massively retaliate out of spite the first chance they get. My baseline assumption in that situation is that everything decent passed into law at the Federal level since 1900 or so would be on the chipping block with an R president, senate and house.

As detestable as I find the filibuster to be, it does have one solid benefit. It prevents what engineers refer to as bang-bang control (e.g., slam on the brakes when going too fast, floor the accelerator when going too slow).

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:15:17pm

I wonder who she thinks her base is:

Caitlyn Jenner is officially throwing her name into the hat: The former Olympic decathlete is running for governor of California.

I really doubt that what remains of GOP voters is California are going to rally to her. Maybe her thinking is that the Dems will be stupid and not put someone on the replacement ballot and she’ll be the best default option for non-Republican voters?

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:15:59pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

Let’s give it its proper name: “Contract on America”.

I have been calling it that since Newt came out with his slogan.

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:20:57pm

Why does everything taste like chicken? A scientific study of convergent evolution vs ancestral inheritance.

improbable.com

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:21:51pm

re: #72 KGxvi

I wonder who she thinks her base is:

I really doubt that what remains of GOP voters is California are going to rally to her. Maybe her thinking is that the Dems will be stupid and not put someone on the replacement ballot and she’ll be the best default option for non-Republican voters?

Jenner is even more of an asshole than Ah-Nold the Steroid Junky was.

What is making me ROTFLMAO is seeing how all these right wing Pulpit Pimps are backing Jenner and the recall. No doubt Jay-Zuss forgives Jenner for killing a person in a hit and run…

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:22:05pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

This. The only laws Republicans actually want to pass are tax cuts, which can be done via reconciliation. That means keeping the filibuster in place is 100.000% to the advantage of Republicans.

Of course, if/when Democrats actually eliminate the filibuster, Republicans will naturally massively retaliate out of spite the first chance they get. My baseline assumption in that situation is that everything decent passed into law at the Federal level since 1900 or so would be on the chipping block with an R president, senate and house.

As detestable as I find the filibuster to be, it does have one solid benefit. It prevents what engineers refer to as bang-bang control (e.g., slam on the brakes when going too fast, floor the accelerator when going too slow).

The filibuster doesn’t do that. That’s what debate among the Congressmembers are for.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:23:40pm

re: #68 No Malarkey!

I’m planning on getting lunch at a restaurant with a couple of old friends next week, now that we are all vaccinated. The risk seems minimal.

we will be traveling by air and uber in May. first time in 2 years.
being vaccinated the ‘risk’ seems a bit more psychologically creepy than actual

and we’ll take the same precautions
masks
no face touching
spacing where possible
no eating
lots of hand washing

its still unclear what the airline is doing w/r/t center seats and requiring proof of vaccination, but overall i’m not toooo worried (yet)

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:25:09pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

This. The only laws Republicans actually want to pass are tax cuts, which can be done via reconciliation. That means keeping the filibuster in place is 100.000% to the advantage of Republicans.

Of course, if/when Democrats actually eliminate the filibuster, Republicans will naturally massively retaliate out of spite the first chance they get. My baseline assumption in that situation is that everything decent passed into law at the Federal level since 1900 or so would be on the chipping block with an R president, senate and house.

As detestable as I find the filibuster to be, it does have one solid benefit. It prevents what engineers refer to as bang-bang control (e.g., slam on the brakes when going too fast, floor the accelerator when going too slow).

Thing is, the GOP loves the filibuster because it’s a lot easier to block good legislation than it is to repeal it once it’s passed. They couldn’t repeal the ACA after running against it for 8 years, even while trying to use reconciliation to do so. Elections should have consequences, otherwise, what’s the point in even having a Senate?

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:27:02pm

Too bad there isn’t a way to bill the Republican Party for this boondoggle.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:28:30pm

re: #72 KGxvi

I wonder who she thinks her base is:

I really doubt that what remains of GOP voters is California are going to rally to her. Maybe her thinking is that the Dems will be stupid and not put someone on the replacement ballot and she’ll be the best default option for non-Republican voters?

Name recognition is the name of the game. If a strong Democratic challenger runs, the votes of Democrats might be split, and Jenner might squeeze through. It’s a long shot, but I doubt any other Republican has a chance.

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:28:32pm

re: #78 No Malarkey!

Thing is, the GOP loves the filibuster because it’s a lot easier to block good legislation than it is to repeal it once it’s passed. They couldn’t repeal the ACA after running against it for 8 years, even while trying to use reconciliation to do so. Elections should have consequences, otherwise, what’s the point in even having a Senate?

I think among politicians who support the filibuster as it exists today the answer is really cynical…

It means they don’t actually have to do anything. It relieves them of the responsibility of governing and allows them to basically just continually run. And let’s face it, campaigning is probably a lot more fun than governing. And probably much easier when you can literally run on the same thing over and over again because “the other side is in the throes of special interests and won’t let us pass this good and just and common sense legislation”.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:29:51pm

re: #79 jaunte

Where there is a will there is a way.

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:30:15pm

re: #76 Belafon

The filibuster doesn’t do that. That’s what debate among the Congressmembers are for.

We haven’t had meaningful debate in Congress in our lifetimes (except for the oldest among us). So I view that as a pipe dream.

Without a filibuster, a GOP president, house and senate would undo every piece of Federal progressive legislation ever passed into law, out of spite and to piss off liberals.

If that happens, the GOP would likely lose the presidency and Congress (assuming they don’t succeed in their inevitable attempt to lock in a dictatorship).

Then Democrats would have to try to put it all back together again, and when perfection in this nearly impossible task is not achieved, then the electorate will put Republicans back in charge (or we end up with a divided government where nothing gets done).

Thus bang-bang control (or stasis). Mind you, this is not a argument to keep the filibuster in place. It is an argument to be prepared for the shit that will hit the fan if it is removed.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:30:50pm

re: #80 No Malarkey!

Name recognition is the name of the game. If a strong Democratic challenger runs, the votes of Democrats might be split, and Jenner might squeeze through. It’s a long shot, but I doubt any other Republican has a chance.

In the Oh, Shit department—DSA members are pushing Tulsi Gabbard to run in the recall…

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:31:07pm

re: #81 KGxvi

I think among politicians who support the filibuster as it exists today the answer is really cynical…

It means they don’t actually have to do anything. It relieves them of the responsibility of governing and allows them to basically just continually run. And let’s face it, campaigning is probably a lot more fun than governing. And probably much easier when you can literally run on the same thing over and over again because “the other side is in the throes of special interests and won’t let us pass this good and just and common sense legislation”.

Right, the GOP doesn’t have any policy ideas, they just want to posture about culture wars, and there are probably some Democrats who don’t want to take tough votes either.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:32:24pm
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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:35:38pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

We haven’t had meaningful debate in Congress in our lifetimes (except for the oldest among us). So I view that as a pipe dream.

Without a filibuster, a GOP president, house and senate would undo every piece of Federal progressive legislation ever passed into law, out of spite and to piss off liberals.

If that happens, the GOP would likely lose the presidency and Congress (assuming they don’t succeed in their inevitable attempt to lock in a dictatorship).

Then Democrats would have to try to put it all back together again, and when perfection in this nearly impossible task is not achieved, then the electorate will put Republicans back in charge (or we end up with a divided government where nothing gets done).

Thus bang-bang control (or stasis). Mind you, this is not a argument to keep the filibuster in place. It is an argument to be prepared for the shit that will hit the fan if it is removed.

The GOP actually wouldn’t. They couldn’t even repeal Obamacare, which they loathed. They couldn’t privatize Social Security when that was Bush’s top priority. All they would do is cut taxes again, because their libertarian agenda is toxic with their elderly base dependent on social security, medicare and medicaid.

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:35:54pm

re: #80 No Malarkey!

Name recognition is the name of the game. If a strong Democratic challenger runs, the votes of Democrats might be split, and Jenner might squeeze through. It’s a long shot, but I doubt any other Republican has a chance.

So, I mentioned the Dems being stupid… here’s the real scary part:

The way recalls work in California is that it is a two part question. First you vote on whether the incumbent should be removed. Then regardless of how you voted on that question, you get to vote for a potential replacement. So, if no Dem is on the replacement ballot, and the Yes campaign somehow manages to win*, then whoever gets the most votes on the replacement ballot becomes governor.

When Davis was recalled, he tried to freeze out other Dems from getting on the replacement ballot - one did, Cruz Bustamonte, the Lt Gov (he finished second, and had Arnold not been on the ballot, might have actually won). Davis tried to make it a race against Arnold but failed (I think) to understand that the real question for him was whether he was doing a good job.

*My hunch is that the Yes campaign is likely going to lose. But if we end up with low overall turnout with an energized pro-recall base, Newsom could lose on the retaining question. It would be incredibly stupid to not have a back up plan.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:35:57pm

So the vaccine site is two doors down from us on the corner. People were lined up past our house before they started at noon. It’s now 1:30 and I went outside to put the last box of Girl Scout cookies we have on the hood of our cleaning lady’s car (today’s her first day back in over a year. We’re all masked up in the house though as she doesn’t get her first shot until this afternoon. But having her return doesn’t impact our budget as we’ve been paying her full salary for the 14 months we were afraid to have her come.)…anyway, the line of people goes all the way down to the end of the block, so another seven houses.

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:36:04pm

re: #84 🌹UOJB!

In the Oh, Shit department—DSA members are pushing Tulsi Gabbard to run in the recall…

I don’t think she will do well in CA. IIRC she’s got a track record of bigotry so most on the left won’t like her, and the right wants more blatant bigots.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:38:08pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

Without a filibuster, a GOP president, house and senate would undo every piece of Federal progressive legislation ever passed into law, out of spite and to piss off liberals.

I don’t expect the next GOP controlled trifecta to keep the filibuster.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:38:14pm

re: #90 EPR-radar

I don’t think she will do well in CA. IIRC she’s got a track record of bigotry so most on the left won’t like her, and the right wants more blatant bigots.

Tucker would have her on a lot though.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:39:05pm

re: #87 No Malarkey!

The GOP actually wouldn’t. They couldn’t even repeal Obamacare, which they loathed. They couldn’t privatize Social Security when that was Bush’s top priority. All they would do is cut taxes again, because their libertarian agenda is toxic with their elderly base dependent on social security, medicare and medicaid.

That’s only because they’ve kept the requirement that 60 votes have to be used for cloture.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:39:17pm

re: #91 Belafon

I don’t expect the next GOP controlled trifecta to keep the filibuster.

They will. All they want to do is cut taxes, and they can do that through reconciliation.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:40:14pm

re: #83 EPR-radar

We haven’t had meaningful debate in Congress in our lifetimes (except for the oldest among us). So I view that as a pipe dream.

Without a filibuster, a GOP president, house and senate would undo every piece of Federal progressive legislation ever passed into law, out of spite and to piss off liberals.

If that happens, the GOP would likely lose the presidency and Congress (assuming they don’t succeed in their inevitable attempt to lock in a dictatorship).

Then Democrats would have to try to put it all back together again, and when perfection in this nearly impossible task is not achieved, then the electorate will put Republicans back in charge (or we end up with a divided government where nothing gets done).

Thus bang-bang control (or stasis). Mind you, this is not a argument to keep the filibuster in place. It is an argument to be prepared for the shit that will hit the fan if it is removed.

If the Republican Party succeeds in gaining control again of the WH, the House, and the Senate sans the filibuster, they will pass nationwide voting restrictions that will instate Jim Crow everywhere, put white supremacists in power permanently and silence anyone who doesn’t adhere to their fanaticism and religious intolerance. The GOP is the party of Trump, McConnell, and Gingrich; they are rotten to the core. Let’s not forget that DeSantis imposed a poll tax approved by the Supreme Court that keeps poor minorities from voting and has just signed into law an effective ban on protests and permission to their base to murder protestors who don’t support Trumpism.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:40:33pm

re: #93 Belafon

That’s only because they’ve kept the requirement that 60 votes have to be used for cloture.

They tried to repeal Obamacare through reconciliation, and couldn’t get the 50 votes they needed.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:40:54pm

re: #87 No Malarkey!

The GOP actually wouldn’t. They couldn’t even repeal Obamacare, which they loathed. They couldn’t privatize Social Security when that was Bush’s top priority. All they would do is cut taxes again, because their libertarian agenda is toxic with their elderly base dependent on social security, medicare and medicaid.

Don’t forget the judges since the GOP has packed every last asshole possible on the Federal benches.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:42:15pm

re: #97 🌹UOJB!

Don’t forget the judges since the GOP has packed every last asshole possible on the Federal benches.

Correct. Activist judges is how the GOP is going to enact it’s reactionary agenda.

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:42:45pm

re: #87 No Malarkey!

The GOP actually wouldn’t. They couldn’t even repeal Obamacare, which they loathed. They couldn’t privatize Social Security when that was Bush’s top priority. All they would do is cut taxes again, because their libertarian agenda is toxic with their elderly base dependent on social security, medicare and medicaid.

That’s only true as long as Congressional Republicans retain enough of a connection to reality to recognize that ending Social security etc. really would be a disaster for the GOP.

MTG et al. lack this appreciation of reality, this insanity is growing in the GOP caucuses, and ‘moderate’ Republicans never rein in their extremists.

E.g., The only thing that saved Obamacare was that McConnell pissed off McCain.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:44:39pm

re: #96 No Malarkey!

They tried to repeal Obamacare through reconciliation, and couldn’t get the 50 votes they needed.

Thanks for the clarification. Who do you think would play the role of McCain now?

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:46:47pm

re: #99 EPR-radar

That’s only true as long as Congressional Republicans retain enough of a connection to reality to recognize that ending Social security etc. really would be a disaster for the GOP.

MTG et al. lack this appreciation of reality, this insanity is growing in the GOP caucuses, and ‘moderate’ Republicans never rein in their extremists.

E.g., The only thing that saved Obamacare was that McConnell pissed off McCain.

If the Q Caucus gains power in a trifecta, the filibuster is beside the point because the US will become a fascist state, and elections will be purely ceremonial.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:47:52pm

re: #100 Belafon

Thanks for the clarification. Who do you think would play the role of McCain now?

Murkowski, Collins, Romney come to mind.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:52:41pm

re: #102 No Malarkey!

Murkowski, Collins, Romney come to mind.

Was Romney a senator when that vote happened, because I know the other two were?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:52:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:53:58pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:54:22pm

re: #102 No Malarkey!

Murkowski, Collins, Romney come to mind.

So, no one, then.
/

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:55:46pm

re: #103 Belafon

Was Romney a senator when that vote happened, because I know the other two were?

I don’t think so.

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sagehen  Apr 23, 2021 • 1:56:40pm

re: #84 🌹UOJB!

In the Oh, Shit department—DSA members are pushing Tulsi Gabbard to run in the recall…

how long does one have to be a Californian to be eligible?

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sagehen  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:00:47pm

re: #96 No Malarkey!

They tried to repeal Obamacare through reconciliation, and couldn’t get the 50 votes they needed.

because John McCain.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:02:05pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Still slower than Usain Bolt.

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steve_davis  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:04:46pm

The very grey men in their very grey suits are doing their very grey best to burn down my house dreams. The good news is that if this all goes away, I’ll have learned something for the next time. Mainly, never open your front door if there are a flock of young bicycle-riding lads with white pressed shirts and ties on, looking earnest, outside. That never ends well. You could find yourself being post-deceased baptized in something odd. Something very odd indeed. I did whisper to Jesse about a backyard with a chain-link fence, and I’ll be especially disappointed for her. I did mention to my loan officer that “I’m not asking you to do anything illegal. But if there’s anything unethical we could try…..”

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:07:08pm

re: #108 sagehen

how long does one have to be a Californian to be eligible?

I don’t think we have a residency requirement beyond being domiciled in the state and registered to vote in the state.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:10:44pm

re: #110 Belafon

Still slower than Usain Bolt.

And almost went full Tonya Harding on his/her fellow racer at the end there.

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steve_davis  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:11:46pm

re: #20 jaunte

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god, that looks like a man whose wife has some stank breath and just can’t work up the courage to tell her no, the morning coffee does not kill the morning breath.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:18:19pm

BREAKING: J&J’s COVID-19 vaccine has been given the all-clear to resume vaccination in the US.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:20:42pm

re: #115 Eric The Fruit Bat

With a warning of course.
washingtonpost.com

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:23:46pm

Huh. I’m sitting here and I suddenly get an email from the electric company that a $350 payment has been applied to my account. I start panicking because I had recently set up a payment arrangement to get caught up and had to make a $35 down payment. Did they screw up and add a 0 on the end? I check online - energy assistance? But I got that in December? I call them and yep, payment was made, only a small bit left on the bill and we can cancel the arrangement.

Only thing I can imagine is that a bunch of money from the Covid bill got dumped into the state’s energy assistance program and they went through and gave a second disbursement like the previous one last fall/winter.

Not really complaining but damn, I could have used a heads up on it!

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:28:51pm

re: #117 William Lewis

I’m getting too old for surprises. Like an email I recently got from my Dad with the subject line “Bad news about (my sister’s name)”.

It turns out that her dog had to be put to sleep (shortly after another dog had also passed away), so it was sad news but not nearly as bad as what I first thought of.

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Teukka  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:35:56pm

Heartbreaking 😢

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KGxvi  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:43:20pm

re: #114 steve_davis

god, that looks like a man whose wife has some stank breath and just can’t work up the courage to tell her no, the morning coffee does not kill the morning breath.

That looks like what they might have called a “marriage of convenience” back in the day. Probably because they both like to visit certain bars and clubs where “they can more freely be themselves…”

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:46:38pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:48:00pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:50:09pm

re: #122 HRH Stanley Sea

That’s why Republicans want there to be lots of riots. They think widespread unrest will make the military more likely to obey illegal orders from Republicans.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:56:23pm

These fucking idiots:

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:58:12pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

This sounds like the stuff that was used against DT.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:58:16pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

These fucking idiots:

Not even responding to that tweet.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2021 • 2:58:50pm

re: #125 PhillyPretzel

This sounds like the stuff that was used against DT.

In that case it was true.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:00:08pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:00:48pm

I went back to the eye dr. today. I go back again in 3 weeks. I expected that, but I expected it to be to pick up glasses. Nope. It’s to see how the new prescription is working. I got contacts.

The prisms I would have needed in glasses would have been awkward, probably, to get good use of them. Instead, to get around a double-vision, non-convergence issue, we went to a ‘one eye for close, one eye for distant’ prescription with contacts. The dr. said he even has patients without my problems who go that way. I have heard of it, in the distant past. I’ve had them in for about 4 hours, and already I feel like I’m not working so hard on the vision thing. With any luck, we’ll see.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:01:11pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:01:42pm
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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:01:57pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

These fucking idiots:

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second sentence has nothing to do with the first.
and in any event none those are high crimes or misdemeanors

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:02:05pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

Anyone calling Chauvin a “hero cop” is a fucking Nazi. Period. Full stop.

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Jay C  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:02:27pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

These fucking idiots:

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“…slander a hero cop….”
SRSLY?
These maroons bother noting that it was a jury (not Joe Biden) that determined that Chauvin was, indeed, a murderer??

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:04:03pm

re: #133 EPR-radar

Anyone calling Chauvin a “hero cop” is a fucking Nazi. Period. Full stop.

We’re at the point where the white supremacy is out in the open, which I hope is the part before it gets crushed, rather than where we wind up white minority rule for decades of hell before they get crushed.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:04:58pm

But wait, there’s more!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:05:25pm

re: #134 Jay C

“…slander a hero cop….”
SRSLY?
These maroons bother noting that it was a jury (not Joe Biden) that determined that Chauvin was, indeed, a murderer??

But Biden made them do it by speaking after they were sequestered.
In case you Liberals don’t know, sequestered means forced to listen to the president speak.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:05:30pm

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

Qwhite the trio.

A word that may be qwhite useful.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:07:32pm

Klan of Greene Gables should be in prison, not Congress. Why the fuck hasn’t she been expelled yet? Seriously? If anyone should be taking the insurrection seriously as a fucking attempted coup and not “boys will be boys” it should be the Democrats in Congress FFS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:08:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:08:26pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:09:51pm

re: #135 Punish Domestic Terrorists

We’re at the point where the white supremacy is out in the open, which I hope is the part before it gets crushed, rather than where we wind up white minority rule for decades of hell before they get crushed.

That’s how I see it as well. There is no pathology in Trump that was not already a dominant force in the GOP in 2016. Trump just exposed it for all the world to see. What is dismaying is that total exposure of the GOP as the fascist death cult that it is has had remarkably little impact on elections.

One would like the repudiation of fascism in America to be decisive, instead of what we’re getting

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:13:02pm

re: #128 Punish Domestic Terrorists

If you are being relentlessly stalked by RWNJ trolls. Expect to get a vacation from Twitter for that too BTW.

Twitter apparently thinks calling someone trash is “Hate Speech against Saltine Americans” and worse than the N-word*. I think that very word might have been what got Driftglass his perma-boot.

*It’s not obviously. And here’s how you know Twitter: If you are comparing the badness of two words and you won’t even say or write out one of them… that’s the worse word.

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teleskiguy  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:15:48pm

Skied some rad gnarly shit today at Arapahoe Basin

North Pole from the lift, East Wall, Arapahoe Basin, CO 2021/04/23
Looking down North Pole, Arapahoe Basin, CO 2021/04/23. Picture above was taken from the lift, far far below.
Steep Gully #3, Arapahoe Basin, CO 2021/04/23. You can see these imposing gullies from Highway 6, west side of Loveland Pass.

Lot of hiking. My legs are jello.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:16:40pm

The South Carolina congressman, 80, is serving his 15th term in the House. He has appealed the fine, the committee said in a statement.

Clyburn is the first Democrat to be fined under security screening rules the House imposed this year after the violent Jan. 6 storming of the Capitol by supporters of then-President Donald Trump. Three Republicans have been fined, most recently Kentucky Rep. Harold Rogers, who is 83 and has also appealed.

Clyburn entered the chamber Tuesday and “deliberately avoided being screened by refusing to submit to screening,” according to a Capitol Police memorandum released by the ethics panel. A handwritten report said Clyburn “walked around” a metal detector.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:16:54pm

re: #143 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

If you are being relentlessly stalked by RWNJ trolls. Expect to get a vacation from Twitter for that too BTW.

Twitter apparently thinks calling someone trash is “Hate Speech against Saltine Americans” and worse than the N-word*. I think that very word might have been what got Driftglass his perma-boot.

*It’s not obviously. And here’s how you know Twitter: If you are comparing the badness of two words and you won’t even say or write out one of them… that’s the worse word.

That’s cool. I like vacations.

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:18:26pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, that’s fucking stupid. Stupid should be left to Republicans.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:23:32pm

re: #147 EPR-radar

I wonder if he did it deliberately to show that he’d be fined but R’s would get off scot free.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:25:26pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I went back to the eye dr. today. I go back again in 3 weeks. I expected that, but I expected it to be to pick up glasses. Nope. It’s to see how the new prescription is working. I got contacts.

The prisms I would have needed in glasses would have been awkward, probably, to get good use of them. Instead, to get around a double-vision, non-convergence issue, we went to a ‘one eye for close, one eye for distant’ prescription with contacts. The dr. said he even has patients without my problems who go that way. I have heard of it, in the distant past. I’ve had them in for about 4 hours, and already I feel like I’m not working so hard on the vision thing. With any luck, we’ll see.

i have been dealing with both of those my whole life
behind the button for those who don’t care to read about it

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here’s the cautionary tale:
I turned out ok in spite of my teacher, not because of.
multiply her by thousands and then by all their students…who didn’t have an astute optometrist.

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:25:38pm

re: #148 DesertDenizen

I wonder if he did it deliberately to show that he’d be fined but R’s would get off scot free.

Why would the Rs not get fined?

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:26:03pm

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

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getting a lot of work done in congress, is she?

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:26:19pm

re: #128 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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If you use the phrase “white trash” in Facebook or Twitter you get put in jail. But my relatives can post the N word and @jack & Marky Mark see nothing wrong with that.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:27:46pm

re: #150 EPR-radar

Why would the Rs not get fined?

Because IOKIYAR. When do they ever face real consequences?

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:28:38pm

re: #149 Dangerman

Wow.

All the updings.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:29:34pm

re: #134 Jay C

“…slander a hero cop….”
SRSLY?
These maroons bother noting that it was a jury (not Joe Biden) that determined that Chauvin was, indeed, a murderer??

Right. Absent a successful appeal (unlikely), it is now established beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin is a murderer. I know they don’t care, but they don’t get their own facts.

And if you want to call the guy a “hero”, yikes. And that goes even if Chauvin had somehow managed to avoid a guilty verdict.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:30:12pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:30:35pm

re: #149 Dangerman

Eye tests in school caught my nearsightedness. It was quite the surprise to actually see clearly for the first time in grade school.

What they missed at the time was a mild convergence/double vision issue. Not severe, but it probably contributed to my complete inability to catch a baseball etc.

Many years later, the double vision got worse, and I spent a few months driving around with one eye closed. Fortunately a simple prism correction in the glasses dealt with that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:31:49pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:32:04pm

re: #149 Dangerman

I did not have the eye problem that you have but my first grade teacher said I would never graduate high school. She said I was too quiet. I graduated La Salle University in 1994.

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retired cynic  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:32:57pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I went back to the eye dr. today. I go back again in 3 weeks. I expected that, but I expected it to be to pick up glasses. Nope. It’s to see how the new prescription is working. I got contacts.

The prisms I would have needed in glasses would have been awkward, probably, to get good use of them. Instead, to get around a double-vision, non-convergence issue, we went to a ‘one eye for close, one eye for distant’ prescription with contacts. The dr. said he even has patients without my problems who go that way. I have heard of it, in the distant past. I’ve had them in for about 4 hours, and already I feel like I’m not working so hard on the vision thing. With any luck, we’ll see.

Best of luck! I got that prescription when I was 15 (nearly 60 years ago), and wore them until after lens replacement cataract surgery after blessed Medicare. The doc even did the lens replacements the same way, and all is wonderful!

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:33:09pm

re: #153 DesertDenizen

Because IOKIYAR. When do they ever face real consequences?

As I understand it, the fines are imposed under rules set up by House Democrats. It would be most disappointing (but not too surprising) if IOKIYAR applies there.

In any case, the original article mentioned a GOP house member that is appealing his fine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:34:15pm
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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:41:59pm

re: #157 EPR-radar

Eye tests in school caught my nearsightedness. It was quite the surprise to actually see clearly for the first time in grade school.

What they missed at the time was a mild convergence/double vision issue. Not severe, but it probably contributed to my complete inability to catch a baseball etc.

Many years later, the double vision got worse, and I spent a few months driving around with one eye closed. Fortunately a simple prism correction in the glasses dealt with that.

oh yes lets talk sports
i couldnt throw straight
i couldnt hit a ball
i could mostly catch
basketball, forget it
tennis, ping pong etc not a chance
i never ever passed penmanship. no one can read my scrawl, including me - a lot
and i still have a hard time drawing a straight line using a straight edge

learning to type in 11th grade and then computers were salvation

except i absolute hate mice
hand/eye coordination once again.
i know what i want to do, it just…wont
and thumb typing as well.

i use a stationary trackball that helped a lot
and after 30 years, one day went - duh and moved it to the left side, me being left handed.
and reversed the keys too.
everyone else hates it, but you know, it’s my damned computer

im aces with the command line because i can do that without looking
i live in windows 7 and use all sorts of hot key combinations to blast along.
faster and way more accurate than effing mice that have to be so picky about accuracy.

wow. look at me.
i just did an eyesight, left hand discrimination, mouse rant…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:46:37pm
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mmmirele  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:47:20pm

re: #84 🌹UOJB!

In the Oh, Shit department—DSA members are pushing Tulsi Gabbard to run in the recall…

Hey, speaking of the DSA have you heard the story about… oh God, here’s a tweet.

I learned a new word (to describe an old behavior) from this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:48:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:51:02pm
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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:51:08pm

re: #163 Dangerman

one more quickie

being bad at sports took the toll you’d expect
no one cares why you cant throw straight

at age 11 i was introduced to fencing
just by chance

i loved it and for some reason had no problem with the hand/eye coordination.
for some reason i was dead on accurate.

and the first time in my life being lefty was a plus.
there are (or were) scant few left handed fencers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:53:40pm

the last words of dad…

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2021 • 3:59:53pm

re: #160 retired cynic

Best of luck! I got that prescription when I was 15 (nearly 60 years ago), and wore them until after lens replacement cataract surgery after blessed Medicare. The doc even did the lens replacements the same way, and all is wonderful!

That is so good to see. Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:05:20pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:06:14pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of the many legacies of DT and his so-called administration.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:11:02pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:15:45pm

Just saw this trending on Twitter.

Wow. I’m definitely going to catch I am the Doorway tomorrow & Survivor Type on Sunday. Maybe others!!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:16:48pm

re: #172 PhillyPretzel

And by sending it off to a collection agency, the city has written that debt off. Whoever bought the debt figures they got a way of getting the full amount - we’ll see.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:17:02pm
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Belafon  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:25:52pm

Be ready to cry:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:29:22pm

re: #177 Belafon

Be ready to cry:

OMG. I’m balling here. Like a freaking baby. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:30:44pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:33:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:35:49pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:37:56pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. Jurors should not be threatened during and after the trial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:38:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:39:52pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

whoa. twins? OMG Get into the basement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:44:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:48:44pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:50:13pm

re: #186 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

You have just entered the Twilight Zone …

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teleskiguy  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:55:43pm

re: #186 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

@patriottakes is non-stop weapons-grade bad craziness. Oy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 23, 2021 • 4:56:18pm

So the Telegraph appears desperate for webhits:

twitter.com

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EPR-radar  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:01:20pm

re: #187 PhillyPretzel

You have just entered the Twilight Zone …

That business about Jim Morrison -> Rush Limbaugh -> Jim Morrison looks like satire to me. Wingnuts that are high enough on their own supply to be in ALL CAPS mode can’t spell that amount of text correctly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:03:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:07:28pm
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BigPapa  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:14:51pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:16:59pm

re: #186 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I’m sorry. Could you please provide a diagram of that batshit crazy?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:33:36pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:36:07pm

re: #195 Dread Pirate Ron

I’ve seen that on one of the Pantanal shows I watch. The jaguar carries it up into a tree after it finally makes it out of the river (it took three tries at different locations).

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Charles Johnson  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:37:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:37:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 23, 2021 • 5:44:16pm

This is barbaric:
Remains Of Black Children Killed in MOVE Bombing Cannot Be Located

Both were identified shortly after the incident. One victim’s mother is still alive.


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