Jackson Browne and Greg Leisz: Buffy Sainte-Marie’s “Piney Wood Hills”

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Jackson Browne performs Buffy Sainte-Marie’s “Piney Wood Hills” live from home with Greg Leisz for Forest Fete 2021.

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Lyrics
I’m a rambler and a rover
And a wanderer it seems
I’ve traveled all over
Chasing after my dreams
But a dream should come true
And a heart should be filled
And a life should be lived
In the piney wood hills

I’ll return to the woodlands
I’ll return to the snow
I’ll return to the hills
And the valley below
I’ll return like a poor man
Or a king if God wills
But I’m on my way home
To the piney wood hills

I was raised on a song there
I done right I done wrong there
And it’s true I belong there
And it’s true it’s my home

From ocean to ocean
I’ve rambled and roamed
And soon I’ll return
To my piney wood home
Maybe someday I’ll find
Someone who will
Love as I love my piney wood hills

I was raised on a song there
I done right I done wrong there
And it’s true I belong there
And it’s true it’s my home

I’ll return to the woodlands
I’ll return to the snow
I’ll return to the hills
And the valley below
I’ll return like a poor man
Or a king if God wills
But I’m on my way home
To the piney wood hills

Written by: Buffy Sainte Marie
Lyrics © Kobalt Music Publishing Ltd.

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214 comments
1
The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:36:51am

Buffy Ste-Marie. Wow. I saw her in concert in 1968. MUCH BETTER THAN JOAN BAEZ.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:41:54am
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teleskiguy  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:44:37am

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gwangung  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:45:23am

re: #2 No Malarkey!

THe reactionaries are counting on liberals/Dems to take it.

Not sure that’s going to happen…and there’s going to be a Cold Civil War turned hot.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:46:23am

Oil Facility Fires Reported in Iran’s Southwestern Ahvaz Region (Voice of America)

Several facility fires have been reported in the last forty-eight hours.

CAIRO - Several oil facility fires have occurred in Iran’s southwestern Ahvaz region during the past 48 hours, Arab media reported Saturday. The reports came on the heels of a massive oil refinery fire this week in the capital, Tehran.

The fires followed the suspicious sinking of Iran’s largest naval ship, the Kharg, earlier in the week.

The string of fires and the sinking of the ship caused speculation among Arab media and internationally based Persian news channels that Israel might have been behind the incidents. Iran, however, said both events were “accidents.”

London-based Iran analyst Ali Nourizadeh told VOA that he thought the latest fires in Ahvaz probably weren’t acts of sabotage, because there are oil field fires in Ahvaz every summer. The sinking of the Kharg and the Tehran refinery fire, he argued, probably were sabotage, despite Iranian government denials.

The Tehran refinery, Nourizadeh said, “was not a natural fire. It was very precise, very detailed and the damage is huge. Actually, they have to rebuild the refinery because most of the parts were destroyed.”

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:46:34am

re: #4 gwangung

THe reactionaries are counting on liberals/Dems to take it.

Not sure that’s going to happen…and there’s going to be a Cold Civil War turned hot.

The assumption is that liberals/Democrats are too soft, too weak, too emasculated to resist the manly and aggressive Republican conservatives. They are going to be very surprised.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:50:50am

So I finally got clarification on pics taken at the parade. Here’s our float. Can you pick me out. I’m in disguise. :-)

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No Malarkey!  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:51:58am

re: #4 gwangung

THe reactionaries are counting on liberals/Dems to take it.

Not sure that’s going to happen…and there’s going to be a Cold Civil War turned hot.

I can only hope the courts will step in when states try to nullify Black votes. Secondly, I hope the Democrats at least retain control of the Senate. If the GOP nominee goes along with the steal attempt we are going to have the worst constitutional crisis since the Civil War. Trump would go for the steal; maybe a more conventional politician will concede after they lose to prevent all Hell breaking lose.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:54:16am

re: #2 No Malarkey!

Thank you to Manchin and Sinema for playing along with the racist GOP plan to suppress minority voters. They can shut the hell up about bipartisanship when they have nothing to say about partisan voter suppression laws.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:54:29am

re: #2 No Malarkey!

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retired cynic  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:54:53am

re: #7 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Sure! You’re on the right, on the float.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:55:22am

re: #7 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So I finally got clarification on pics taken at the parade. Here’s our float. Can you pick me out. I’m in disguise. :-)

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You’re one of the electric poles. /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:57:09am

Republicans don’t really think Dems are going to sit back and be cool if they use all kinds of cheating to hand an election to a guy who clearly lost it, do they?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:57:20am

re: #7 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So I finally got clarification on pics taken at the parade. Here’s our float. Can you pick me out. I’m in disguise. :-)

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 11:59:11am

Keep an eye on the Virginia & New Jersey governor races this year because Republicans will pull the fraud shit when they lose…

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:01:12pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t that what happened in 2000? Democrats lost the Supreme Court decision and that was that. We have a Republican controlled SCOTUS so I don’t see a different outcome.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:02:57pm

re: #11 retired cynic

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

re: #14 The Pie Overlord!

Guess I’m in need a better disguise then. :-)

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:03:06pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Republicans don’t really think Dems are going to sit back and be cool if they use all kinds of cheating to hand an election to a guy who clearly lost it, do they?

What I think is almost worse—Dem leadership seem to have no understanding of the depth of anger of their base. Everyone is worried about Trump’s base. But failure to fight a real fight will, in my view, lead to abandonment of the Democratic party by lots of young people who are tired and getting cynical about politicians and politics. There’s a lot at stake.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:03:09pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Republicans don’t really think Dems are going to sit back and be cool if they use all kinds of cheating to hand an election to a guy who clearly lost it, do they?

I’m going to say they do, and worse: I think they’re hoping that we don’t, and that they finally get to start killing us when we resist. The reactionaries have been priming the pump for all-out extermination of “liberals” for decades. It feels like we’re getting to that moment.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:03:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:04:22pm

I admit I do not know how much of a concern this is.

Russia Starts Rollout Of New COVID-19 Vaccine For Cats And Dogs (Radio Free Europe)

Several Russian regions have started vaccinating domestic animals against COVID-19 at veterinary clinics. Russia’s agricultural safety watchdog Rosselkhoznadzor made the announcement on May 26. Russia said in March it had registered the world’s first vaccine for animals against the coronavirus after tests showed it generated antibodies against it in dogs, cats, foxes, and mink.

(video, 2:46)

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:16:29pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

But freedom of speech, right?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:17:15pm

re: #15 JOE 🥓

Not gonna work in Virginia. Northern Virginia always comes through for Democrats.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:22:09pm

re: #24 Patricia Kayden

Not gonna work in Virginia. Northern Virginia always comes through for Democrats.

It won’t stop the MAGAT from claiming fraud!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:22:56pm

Supreme Court asked to review men-only draft registration law (Military Times)

Cue Sen. Cruz on the “feminisation” of the military.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court is being asked to decide whether it’s sex discrimination for the government to require only men to register for the draft when they turn 18.

The question of whether it’s unconstitutional to require men but not women to register could be viewed as one with little practical impact. The last time there was a draft was during the Vietnam War, and the military has been all-volunteer since. But the registration requirement is one of the few remaining places where federal law treats men and women differently, and women’s groups are among those arguing that allowing it to stand is harmful.

The justices could say as soon as Monday whether they will hear a case involving the Military Selective Service Act, which requires men to register for the draft.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:27:42pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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mmmirele  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:28:43pm

My friend David Gerard, expert on bitcoin, the blockchain and the associated scams, has two recent articles about countries attempting to make Bitcoin (or its own coin) legal tender.

This article from Thursday talks about the wind down of the Marshall Islands attempt at a cryptocurrency (there’s a lot more detail at the link). Basically, it’s dead, it’s pining for the fjords, etc.

On 11 April 2018, the US ambassador sent the Marshall Islands government a letter expressing US concerns about the abuse of the SOV for money laundering and terrorist financing, and warned that the islands could be cut off from the world financial system entirely.

First Hawaiian told the Marshall Islands that they would almost certainly leave immediately if the government did the SOV as a cryptocurrency without the strictest of anti-money-laundering procedures in place.

The plan was for the SOV only to be sold to fully documented buyers, with every holder to be checked against the US Office of Foreign Asset Control — but this didn’t convince the US or First Hawaiian.

The International Monetary Fund further warned the government in September 2018 against releasing the SOV. As well as the risk of being cut off from the finance system, a volatile second official currency risked balance sheet problems for both the government and for private enterprise. [IMF, 2018; IMF report, 2018, PDF]

The SOV plan prompted a vote of no confidence in President Hilda Heine, who was pushing the scheme, in November 2018. [Guardian, 2018]

davidgerard.co.uk

The second article is about El Salvador going all in on accepting Bitcoin as legal tender.

El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, has announced, via video at the Bitcoin Miami conference yesterday evening, that El Salvador will be adopting Bitcoin as “legal tender”! [Reuters]

El Salvador has used the US dollar as its currency since 2001. What’s happening here appears to be: El Salvador says “take that!” to the US by bringing in a proprietary payment network, which claims to be denominated in BTC rather than US dollars.

I wrote a couple of days ago about how this sort of thing worked out for the Marshall Islands. I expect that various institutions will shortly be phoning El Salvador, and asking if they really want to be cut off from the world financial system absolutely and utterly. Given that $2 out of every $10 coming into El Salvador comes from remittances [WSJ], I’d hope they don’t.

davidgerard.co.uk

Gerard goes into considerable detail on what a cluster this would be. And if you weren’t aware, the Miami conference was interrupted by a Doge coin promoter yesterday.

PS How is “doge” pronounced? I pronounce it “doj” (as in “Doge of Venice”) but my brother says it’s “dog-e”, like “doggy”. Everything I’ve looked at agrees with me, but hey, I could be wrong.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:29:16pm

re: #25 JOE 🥓

It won’t stop the MAGAT from claiming fraud!

They can claim all they want. It’s not going to work in Virginia. Virginia hasn’t been a red state for quite some time now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:30:03pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:31:09pm

re: #28 mmmirele

I personally would stick with the 1st one you listed. Doge of Venice is probably where it came from.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:32:26pm

re: #28 mmmirele

(cut)

PS How is “doge” pronounced? I pronounce it “doj” (as in “Doge of Venice”) but my brother says it’s “dog-e”, like “doggy”. Everything I’ve looked at agrees with me, but hey, I could be wrong.

Dodgy

as in “sketchy”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:34:07pm

re: #4 gwangung

THe reactionaries are counting on liberals/Dems to take it.

Not sure that’s going to happen…and there’s going to be a Cold Civil War turned hot.

What they imagine is that all the institutions that have license to perform violence and condone violence will be on their side. Ideally they can use legal means to limit franchise and have a de facto one party state while maintaining the premise of democracy…creating a a situation in which anyone that resists through vigorous means—protests, property damage—is an insurgent while everyone with an oath of service reflexively sides with the status quo because the alternative is Evil Alien Ideology that doesn’t need to responded to, only destroyed.

Their wager is that there’s a lot of people, including centrist liberals, who will allow anything to happen so long as their sense of “normalcy” and “safety” is satiated…and they’re not wrong. Lots of fucking people are perfectly fine with protesters getting gassed because some private property was damaged; lots of people still don’t acknowledge how often cops lie to get convictions or explain arbitrary shootings. America is already primed for this because our entire culture is denying the horrific shit we’ve done in the past and currently overseas—look at the chafing about acknowledging Tulsa. Folks want to be comfortable and are often willing to jettison their own morals when the following those morals means risk and uncertainty and feeling uncomfortable within oneself. Prompted enough with fear, people cleave to tribal expedience—find the person causing the discomfort, make them an outsider, and shut them up.

This is why they make shit worse on purpose: desperate people are easier to gull with the promise of a return to the old status quo. Change is terrifying because it requires effort and experimentation and nuanced contemplation of failure. The reactionary past and the “normal” are fictions curated to have no sharp edges: things were just better, don’t be curious about whether this was generally true or why.

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Mattand  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:34:51pm

Just here to stress how much I fucking hate Joe Manchin right now.

At best, he’s a fucking delusional left wing Republican who is in denial over how the GQP are trying to permanently take over the country, and only occasionally does the right thing only due to the “Blind pig finding an acorn” rule.

At worst, he’s been promised something by some wing of the GQP for knifing the Democratic party in the back, and is more than happy to fill the useful idiot rule.

And spare me the whole “Well, at least he’s a Democrat” bullshit. His current actions, in the here and now, are helping pave the way for Republicans to finally kick the legs out from under true democratic elections.

Any past actions are null and void given his current actions and the straight-up fucking danger he is personally putting the country right now.

I’m not thrilled with Sinema either, but she strikes me as someone one with zero spine, and will follow Manchin’s lead in order to avoid being directly in the line of fire.

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Mattand  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:37:26pm

re: #28 mmmirele

Based on all the tech podcasts I listen to, it’s “dough-zhuh”.

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mmmirele  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:37:27pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Dodgy

as in “sketchy”

Aw hell yasss.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:41:33pm

A virus doesn’t give a crap about whether it is within the borders of an ally of the USA, or an adversary.

Rep. Lieu is doubling down on this.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:43:49pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A virus doesn’t give a crap about whether it is within the borders of an ally of the USA, or an adversary.

Rep. Lieu is doubling down on this.

I like Rep. Lieu, most of the time. He is very, very wrong on this. Vaccines as diplomacy is setting a scary precedent. I don’t want to go there.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:44:32pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Turning vaccine distribution of our horded supply into a transaction is monstrous, but also is so nakedly coercive that even if you don’t care about the moral implications it’s just bad optics.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:44:44pm

re: #38 Dopamine Fish

I like Rep. Lieu, most of the time. He is very, very wrong on this. Vaccines as diplomacy is setting a scary precedent. I don’t want to go there.

I agree with this take.

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Mattand  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:45:30pm

re: #15 JOE 🥓

Keep an eye on the Virginia & New Jersey governor races this year because Republicans will pull the fraud shit when they lose…

As of right now, I think we’re okay in NJ. We just don’t have the mouthbreathing MAGAt population that some states have. Not that they won’t try, but that shit doesn’t seem to gain too much traction here.

That said: I mentioned a few weeks ago, we were leaving Liberty State Park and a fellow Jerseyite struck up a discussion about my car. Turns out he was a MAGAt: won’t get a COVID shot and just had to complain about Murphy’s COVID lockdown.

Completely unprompted and he was completely unmoved by the fact that more people would have died without the lockdown.

They’re here, but I don’t think they’ll reach critical mass.

Then again, I’m like one of about 70 people in the whole state who didn’t vote for Christie either time, so we have our occasional bouts of conservative-flavored gubernatorial idiocy.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:48:00pm

re: #34 Mattand

I guess it’s based on status and career and that’s all. I cannot for the life of me understand why you would not want the country you live in to be successful and have low poverty, fair wages, excellent educational system, great healthcare, a safety net to help as many people as possible, how is that bad? And if you have the power to make it better, why the hell wouldn’t you? Does being wealthy turn you into an idiot? Or just a calculating asshole? Both?

I hate this shit. I guess the upside, if we survive this at least somewhat in tact, is that this madness has exposed a LOT of flaws and weaknesses in this system of governance. And going forward there have to be mechanisms in place to deal with government officials and employees who think the rules are theirs to break. I’m talking jail time, loss of assets, etc.

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:48:53pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I agree with this take.

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Who is running the “international alliance” that is supposedly making better choices than the US and how are they deciding who should be getting it?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:50:37pm

re: #43 b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)

Who is running the “international alliance” that is supposedly making better choices than the US and how are they deciding who should be getting it?

COVID-19 Vaccines Global Access, abbreviated as COVAX, is a worldwide initiative aimed at equitable access to COVID-19 vaccines directed by Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance (formerly the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization, or GAVI), the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), and the World Health Organization (WHO). It is one of the three pillars of the Access to COVID-19 Tools Accelerator, an initiative begun in April 2020 by the WHO, the European Commission, and the government of France as a response to the COVID-19 pandemic. COVAX coordinates international resources to enable low-to-middle-income countries equitable access to COVID-19 tests, therapies, and vaccines. By 15 July 2020, 165 countries - representing 60% of the human population - had joined COVAX. However, as of 11 April 2021, COVAX is falling short of its goal, having delivered 38.5 million doses despite a goal of 100 million by the end of March.

en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:51:05pm

I also agree with this take.

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Mattand  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:53:53pm

re: #42 A Mom Anon

I guess it’s based on status and career and that’s all. I cannot for the life of me understand why you would not want the country you live in to be successful and have low poverty, fair wages, excellent educational system, great healthcare, a safety net to help as many people as possible, how is that bad? And if you have the power to make it better, why the hell wouldn’t you? Does being wealthy turn you into an idiot? Or just a calculating asshole? Both?

I hate this shit. I guess the upside, if we survive this at least somewhat in tact, is that this madness has exposed a LOT of flaws and weaknesses in this system of governance. And going forward there have to be mechanisms in place to deal with government officials and employees who think the rules are theirs to break. I’m talking jail time, loss of assets, etc.

I hope so. What got me fired up was I read the recap of Manchin’s chit chat with Chris Wallace, and Wallace was all “Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? I’m a Republican apologist and even I think what you’re doing is insane!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:55:15pm

The ground keeps moving:

There isn’t a real-time monitor of the fumaroles online, as far as I know. But these quakes are now getting to be pretty shallow, up to about 1km below the surface. And it’s pretty much nothing but sediment all the way down to where the quakes are happening.

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steve_davis  Jun 6, 2021 • 12:59:20pm

re: #34 Mattand

Just here to stress how much I fucking hate Joe Manchin right now.

At best, he’s a fucking delusional left wing Republican who is in denial over how the GQP are trying to permanently take over the country, and only occasionally does the right thing only due to the “Blind pig finding an acorn” rule.

At worst, he’s been promised something by some wing of the GQP for knifing the Democratic party in the back, and is more than happy to fill the useful idiot rule.

And spare me the whole “Well, at least he’s a Democrat” bullshit. His current actions, in the here and now, are helping pave the way for Republicans to finally kick the legs out from under true democratic elections.

Any past actions are null and void given his current actions and the straight-up fucking danger he is personally putting the country right now.

I’m not thrilled with Sinema either, but she strikes me as someone one with zero spine, and will follow Manchin’s lead in order to avoid being directly in the line of fire.

He supports the John Lewis bill, which basically returns us to the situation before the Supreme Court blew up the voting rights law several years ago. I just keep making the same mistake, where I think people are taking perhaps cagey, but smart, positions on stuff, only to discover they’re nitwits. Mike Wallace very intelligently asked if Manchin’s position wasn’t in fact encouraging Republican stonewalling, to which he said, “no, because there were 7 brave Republicans who supported the Jan 6 commission.” To which the follow-up is, and what did that get you, senator?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:00:52pm

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Is the Salton Sea going to turn into a volcano?

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Citizen K  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:04:21pm

This shit is exhausting, and Manchin’s bullshit is not helping. And of course, all that ends up happening it seems is that most folks don’t get mad at Manchin and/or Sinema specifically, but the entirety of the Dems, acting like they’re all compromised, so fuck everything, lets not vote and teach those worthless Dems a lesson, huh?!

Because that worked out so fucking well the last few times we’ve had lynchpin midterms, hasn’t it?

And we wonder why Republicans get away with everything they ever fucking wanted: even our own side decides Dems are to blame for everything so fuck them and let the GOP get away without the blame.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:06:03pm

Doje soft j. The e is silent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:10:28pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:10:29pm

So Manchin is a Kochsucker!

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:11:28pm

re: #53 JOE 🥓

So Manchin is a Kochsucker!

I guess McConnell wasn’t lying when he said Manchin and Sinema were bought and paid for…

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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:13:58pm

re: #46 Mattand

Another part of the equation is that federal level elected officials are incredibly isolated from the people they supposedly represent. Some of that is practical and security related of course. But not to the degree that has been allowed. There should be regular and required meetings with constituents as part of the job. At the top of that list are families living on less than 50K a year. You help make those families lives better, it will have a huge impact for the better for everyone. You don’t stop there, but help the people who need it most first. Again, how is this so damned difficult for all these supposedly educated and smart people to understand? How is that even difficult at all for anyone to get? I get these are not simple problems to solve, but the way we’ve been doing things isn’t working. I’m old and impatient, this shit is getting really fucking tiresome.

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Mattand  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:15:59pm

re: #50 Citizen K

I’m sorry, but what good is having the majority if two people in general, and one in particular, constantly knifing you in the fucking back? If I see Democrats acting contrary to why they supposedly signed up for the party in the first place, in addition to possibly endangering the ability for free elections, you’re goddamned right I’m going to say something.

Looking the other way and not making a fuss is unmitigated bullshit.

What’s exhausting is people excusing Manchin enabling Republicans to gut what passes for our democracy so they can go full ruling party for the next 50-100 years.

Manchin and Sinema are siding with Republicans on the filibuster and basically gutting the popular vote.

I’m not a political expert by any definition, but that strikes me as a bit of a fucking character flaw with these two “Democrats”.

Others milage may vary.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:16:17pm

Vaccines are for people, not governments.

“Vaccine diplomacy” isn’t going to make existing bonds, government to government, stronger, because mostly those bonds are rooted in shit like economics and defense that fundamentally aren’t about the needs and wants of individual citizens.

Conversely—what fucking country would we choose not to help the citizens of on the basis of the government positioned over them? Because the ones I can think of aren’t really democracies…so what the fuck are we punishing? This is like the sanctions on Iraq after the first Gulf War…your average Iraqi was fucked by the embargo which made them like the USA less and cleave to Saddam slightly more.

Beyond (D) and (R) Americans just can’t fucking get over the idea that people have to prove the worth of their life through compliance. “We could protect you specifically and the world generally from a disease that mutates and doesn’t fucking care about borders, but your government isn’t nice to us. Maybe you should make your government be nicer to us, hm?”

We’re a empire that gets angry when anyone points out its imperialism playbook.

Maybe, just maybe, one time we could live up to our purported values —Christian, Enlightenment, whatever—and do something for people without it being a transaction.

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IngisKahn  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:20:00pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is the Salton Sea going to turn into a volcano?

At least then it will finally get tourists.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:23:09pm

More! Female! Mice! (The Cut)

I didn’t know this.

Today in gender biases you didn’t know existed: Many drug trials on mice and rats (i.e., most drug trials) are conducted only on males of the species. Historically, researchers have claimed that the short reproductive cycles of female rodents (which repeat every four to five days) could throw off the reliability of their findings. Yes, even in the animal kingdom, females are considered too hormonal to take seriously.

By skipping over females, researchers may be missing important information about how hormonal shifts could interact with our medicines, said Dr. Rebecca Shansky, a neuroscientist and associate professor at Northeastern University. “The excuse that I would hear over and over again is that the estrous cycle” — the mouse version of a menstrual cycle — “would just make the data too complicated,” she explained. Dr. Shansky has been studying the implications of excluding female mice from trials for years, and her 2019 article in the journal Science helped ignite conversation around it.

“Some researchers would say that because one day the animals have high levels of estrogen and the next day they have low levels of estrogen, you couldn’t possibly understand anything about the brain or physiology or the effects of the drug in a drug trial,” she added. But of course, males of any species, be they mice or men, have hormones too. “Male mice and rats [also] have lots of fluctuating hormones, but there’s such a myopic focus on female hormones,” said Dr. Shansky. “It comes from longstanding gender stereotypes that essentially, male is the norm and female is deviation from that.”

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Further down, they note the famous case of Ambien, which metabolises slower in women than men, causing all sorts of problems for women when the drug was first released (today the FDA recommends lower doses for women). However, many drugs have differing effects between men and women.

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Ferdinand  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:24:01pm

re: #48 steve_davis

He supports the John Lewis bill, which basically returns us to the situation before the Supreme Court blew up the voting rights law several years ago. I just keep making the same mistake, where I think people are taking perhaps cagey, but smart, positions on stuff, only to discover they’re nitwits. Mike Wallace very intelligently asked if Manchin’s position wasn’t in fact encouraging Republican stonewalling, to which he said, “no, because there were 7 brave Republicans who supported the Jan 6 commission.” To which the follow-up is, and what did that get you, senator?

This is precisely what I think was wrongheaded about my understanding of the Mueller investigation, and I’m hoping to not fall into the same trap with the Biden administration in general. It’s too easy for me to be a fanboi and I’m really old enough to know better.

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:24:36pm

re: #25 JOE 🥓

It won’t stop the MAGAT from claiming fraud!

And it won’t stop me from telling them they’re full of shit.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:32:19pm

The fix is in.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:32:42pm

There is never enough money to be unconditionally kind.

There is always enough money to maintain the powerful in their comfort.

There is always enough money to hurt people deemed undeserving of compassion by the powerful.

As the world gets worse, the triage will cut away more and more of humanity, but the basic premise that those who already have resources cannot be expected to cede back resources for the common good will be retained.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:39:56pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Republicans don’t really think Dems are going to sit back and be cool if they use all kinds of cheating to hand an election to a guy who clearly lost it, do they?

A lot of them are fantasizing about killing us.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:39:56pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:43:19pm

Make Israel Great Again.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:44:58pm
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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:47:03pm

re: #63 The Ghost of a Flea

I try to look for bright spots, but even those can be difficult to find. I don’t know how an entire country can fight its way out of this spiteful, mean and basically hateful set of beliefs that seem to rule every fucking thing. Punishment and deprivation is just evil after awhile. If the majority of us are good humans, why are the awful humans winning?

Sorry, I am just tired. In every way I can be.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:47:51pm

re: #68 A Mom Anon

I try to look for bright spots, but even those can be difficult to find. I don’t know how an entire country can fight it’s way out of this spiteful, mean and basically hateful set of beliefs that seem to rule every fucking thing. Punishment and deprivation is just evil after awhile. If the majority of us are good humans, why are the awful humans winning?

Sorry, I am just tired. In every way I can be.

I’m also struggling.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:48:07pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

Make Israel Great Again.

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steve_davis  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:51:01pm

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m also struggling.

The bright spot is federalism. We don’t all have to flee to Canada. Just Virginia, or California, for instance.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:53:55pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is the Salton Sea going to turn into a volcano?

It already has volcanos:

The Salton Buttes are a group of volcanoes in California, on the Salton Sea. They consist of a 7-kilometer (4.3 mi)-long row of five lava domes, named Mullet Island, North Red Hill, Obsidian Butte, Rock Hill and South Red Hill. They are closely associated with a fumarolic field and a geothermal field, and there is evidence of buried volcanoes underground. In pre-modern times Obsidian Butte was an important regional source of obsidian.

[… ] A number of geothermal and volcanic features are located in the area, which is a region of active seafloor spreading.

While the Salton Buttes were formerly considered to be of the late Pleistocene epoch (which ended with the end of the last glacial maximum), newer dating efforts have determined that all of them formed more recently, during the current Holocene epoch, mostly through effusive eruptions. Future eruptions are possible and could endanger the surroundings.

This geothermal field, which to repeat is on top of a spreading center (between the North American and Pacific plates), and said field is used to generate electricity and as a source of minerals.

You can see such a plant here, just south of some fumarole
goo.gl

As the operator of the facility notes:

Geothermal power plants use superheated fluids from the Earth’s geothermal resources to generate electricity. Production wells tap into reservoirs thousands of feet beneath the Earth’s surface, releasing tremendous pressure that brings the superheated fluids to the Earth’s surface. The superheated fluids are turned into steam that is used to drive a turbine and generate electricity; all remaining geothermal fluids are injected back into the reservoirs for reuse.

And all those earthquakes in the recent swarm? Yeah, they are in very shallow, and spreading, crust that gives the heat that makes those “reservoirs thousands of feet beneath” said plant.

Besides generating electricity, the hot water that is brought up has added value. Again from the operator of the geothermal plant:

Geothermal fluids are a mixture of hot water and a saline solution of dissolved metals, such as iron, calcium, manganese, magnesium, zinc, boron, barium, silica and lithium. These metals can be removed from the geothermal fluids - or brine - before they are injected back into the reservoirs for reuse. BHE Renewables is advancing research to recover lithium from the brine for potential use in the production of lithium-ion batteries.

Here I will note that the geothermal plant just to the south, across the border in Mexicali, has been quite problematic because of metal pollution.

Do the swarms (the recent one is just several the past couple of years) of earthquakes signal something more to come? Eventually, yes.

Perhaps what Tolkien wrote of the elves applies to us too?

[They] dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness …

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:54:45pm

re: #48 steve_davis

He supports the John Lewis bill, which basically returns us to the situation before the Supreme Court blew up the voting rights law several years ago. I just keep making the same mistake, where I think people are taking perhaps cagey, but smart, positions on stuff, only to discover they’re nitwits. Mike Wallace very intelligently asked if Manchin’s position wasn’t in fact encouraging Republican stonewalling, to which he said, “no, because there were 7 brave Republicans who supported the Jan 6 commission.” To which the follow-up is, and what did that get you, senator?

Joe doesn’t quite seem to get that those 7 “brave Republicans” would happily see him voted out of office in 2024 in favor of someone like Jim Justice. And that Jim’s party is working towards creating a scenario where Joe gets unseated not because he lost the vote, but because the GQP-dominated WV legislature decides that the margin was victory was due to “fraud” and overturns the results to give the win to Jim.

At that point, what will Joe do, go to the courts packed with Trump appointees that those “7 brave Republicans” voted for and hope that he wins there?

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Citizen K  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:55:23pm

re: #56 Mattand

I’m sorry, but what good is having the majority if two people in general, and one in particular, constantly knifing you in the fucking back? If I see Democrats acting contrary to why they supposedly signed up for the party in the first place, in addition to possibly endangering the ability for free elections, you’re goddamned right I’m going to say something.

Looking the other way and not making a fuss is unmitigated bullshit.

What’s exhausting is people excusing Manchin enabling Republicans to gut what passes for our democracy so they can go full ruling party for the next 50-100 years.

Manchin and Sinema are siding with Republicans on the filibuster and basically gutting the popular vote.

I’m not a political expert by any definition, but that strikes me as a bit of a fucking character flaw with these two “Democrats”.

Others milage may vary.

I’m far and away from saying to not get mad. I’m pissed that Manchin is playing these games, and know just how unhelpful and selfish it is. My problem is how many people are laying it at the feet of the entirety of the Dem party and acting like Manchin pulling this shit is proof that the entire party is complicit and don’t really want to help. People looking for every excuse to withhold their vote as if that’s going to prove something and either get Dems to behave better or to get a better Party to replace the Dems. And that shit is a fucking pipe dream, because all that will create is an even more permanent GOP dominance that we will not be able to come back from.

Yes, Dem leadership should lean on Manchin on this, but folks have to understand that the margins we’re left with after 2020 don’t exactly give us a lot of leverage in the Senate at this point. We literally can’t afford to simply shove Manchin or Sinema out of the party or we get McConnell back in charge, and we literally cannot afford that either. That’s not an excuse: that’s reality. Manchin is able to do what he’s doing because he knows he ‘s Vote #50. Barring a freak GOP retirement and subsequent Dem replacement, that’s not changing until at least ‘22, and Manchin’s seat isn’t up for grabs until ‘24. That, plus his positioning as one of the few Dems in WV that could win more than a scratch-off lottery jackpot leaves him with little fear of reprisal. That’s just ugly fact. It fucking sucks, but that’s where the ball lies. The only way we can remove that without handing the Senate back to the GOP is increasing our margins in ‘22.

And yes, that’s a difficult slate with how many anti-voting laws are being implemented state-level across the country. But with the US Congress on that razor’s edge, and the court system packed with Federalists Society and BIrcher plants, we’re left on leaving those fights on the state level unless we can actually make the concessions enough to appease the bipartisanship fetish of the folks we’re really negotiating with: Manchin and Sinema.

And wishing a pox on the entire party for fecklessness is as useless as it is self-sabotaging. If we decide to lay the blame at the Dems’ feet and decide that beatings must continue until morale improves, that just means we’ll end up with another midterm disaster that will destroy any hopes we have of even beginning to address the mess Republicans have left us yet again. We literally cannot afford purity politics at this point. Yes, the hand we’re dealt sucks, but that’s why people were making as big a deal of trying to run up the margins in 2020 as they were. And now we have to hope we can do the same in ‘22, even against the tide of the GOP rigging the game.

If we need to be angry? Be angry at Manchin and Sinema specifically. Be angry at a media landscape that still continues to privilege the GOP narrative over everything else, that still demands Dems justify their very existence, much less their policies while treating the GOP as the default truth for everything. That still treats GOP madness as legitimate political platforms even after the attempted coups. Be mad at voting groups that think it’s more important to ‘send a message’ to Dems by withholding their vote, the most counterproductive shit possible.

I mean, look, if there was a more effective alternative to the Dem party at this point, I’d gladly take it. But we don’t have it. We have to play with the cards we’re dealt right now.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:55:29pm

re: #64 No Malarkey!

A lot of them are fantasizing about killing us.

They think they have all the guns.

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William Lewis  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:56:50pm

re: #71 steve_davis

The bright spot is federalism. We don’t all have to flee to Canada. Just Virginia, or California, for instance.

That’s ok, I’ll be working the gun running trail from Canada south to the Rebel Alliance. ‘Cause you just know Democrats are Star Wars fans…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 1:56:52pm

re: #63 The Ghost of a Flea

There is never enough money to be unconditionally kind.

There is always enough money to maintain the powerful in their comfort.

There is always enough money to hurt people deemed undeserving of compassion by the powerful.

As the world gets worse, the triage will cut away more and more of humanity, but the basic premise that those who already have resources cannot be expected to cede back resources for the common good will be retained.

The overwhelming majority of human history is governance by some form of autocracy (monarchy, religion, dictators, &c). Ofttimes when an autocracy is overthrown, it is just replaced by another autocracy.

From the very moment the idea of popular democracies came up, conservative thinkers started working on ways to control those.

There have been setbacks throughout the history of the world’s first secular democracy. I imagine living through any of those setbacks is not fun.

Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King’s “arc of the moral universe” doesn’t necessarily take into account that sometimes the arc is made of spring steel.

Those who came before us fought back against the conservative desire to drag society back to the Dark Ages. It’s our turn now.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:01:32pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:05:31pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

That was beautiful. Nothing could be more fitting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:06:12pm

Robyn Pennacchia tears apart Sen. Manchin’s op-ed in the Charleston, WV Gazette-Mail.

Joe Manchin Can Name 12 Logical Fallacies Preventing Him From Supporting Voting Rights (Wonkette)

This morning, West Virginia newspaper the Charleston Gazette-Mail published an op-ed from Senator Joe Manchin, titled, very simply, “Why I’m Voting Against the For the People Act.”

Is it particularly surprising that Joe Manchin is voting against the For the People Act? Of course not. That’s what he does. He’s a scorpion and that’s just his nature. But the way I figure it, if he is going to write an entire article titled “Why I’m Voting Against the For the People Act,” he should at least have the decency to explain why he is voting against the For the People Act.

He does not.

In this op-ed, Manchin spends lots of time explaining why he’s opposed to ending the filibuster, but the only explanation he gives for why he opposes the For the People Act is that it’s “partisan.”

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:11:56pm

Here’s the reality that’s being set up going forward: We won’t need to run Manchin or Sinema out of office, they’re happily going along with the GQP plan to eject them both from the Senate in 2024. Both won their elections by less than 3% of the total vote and less than 51% when the final votes were counted. These are the sorts of state level elections that the GQP are eagerly working to prepare for “fraud” allegations in 2024.

Between that and the way they both seem to be eagerly killing any support in the party ranks for their reelection bids, there’s a very good chance we’re going to wake up the day after Election Night ‘24 to find out that both are gone in favor of “moderate” Republicans who promise to support the efforts by their state parties to further concentrate control over electoral outcomes in the hands of red-dominated legislatures.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:15:14pm

::: refilling banquet tables with more turkey, brisket and another 6ft hoagie plus coffee, tea, juices, soda and of course more iced Champagne :::

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:19:00pm

MLK called it almost 60 years ago:

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:20:19pm

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

And unfortunately we have not learned from history not to make the same mistakes going forward.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:20:35pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:22:11pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:22:47pm

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

If I liked the person I would quietly show them the problem. If I did not like them I would have my iPhone ready to record what happens and put it on the internet.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:23:13pm

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

Big hugs to you. This world has lost its damned mind. I’m not sure how we win this. It’s the first time I have ever felt this way. It’s stressful on its own. Throw in health issues and family stuff and, well…(insert eternal scream here). It could get seriously gruesome. All it takes is one determined sociopath, let alone a group of them. We seem to have an overstock of determined sociopaths, like I have nothing else to worry about. Fuck.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:23:47pm

re: #76 William Lewis

Nice thing about meeting gun runners - they’re A higher caliber class of people….

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:24:31pm

The Tolkien rings. This is a surpassingly strange story.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:29:20pm

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

[Embedded content]

Ah, a future feature on “Just Rolled In.” If you don’t know what that is:

Customer States “I Installed The Radio Myself!”

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:37:26pm

Life comes at you fast:

Friday:

“Neener neener, you can’t find me!”

Today:

“HEY! NO FAIR SERVING TO MY WIFE!”

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nines09  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:39:40pm

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

When you gots money and influence?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:42:32pm

re: #72 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

*snip*
Perhaps what Tolkien wrote of the elves Dwarves applies to us too?

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nines09  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:44:55pm

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:46:59pm

Just finished grilling up salmon filets and turkey burgers for the fam. First time I did turkey burgers where I didn’t just season the meat and slap it on the grill, and I’m glad I did my homework - they were incredibly juicy and full of flavor. And this fish… Oh my God, I guess binge-watching Food Network all through the pandemic is paying off.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:47:50pm

re: #86 The Pie Overlord!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:48:05pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

Life comes at you fast:

Friday:

“Neener neener, you can’t find me!”

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:49:25pm

re: #98 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:50:58pm

re: #99 JOE 🥓

That’s even better.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2021 • 2:55:32pm

Deleted.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:06:39pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

They think they have all the guns.

They are wrong.

TENACIOUS | Documentary Trailer | The Tenacious Unicorn Ranch (2021) - Trans Documentary

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:09:34pm

re: #53 JOE 🥓

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:10:56pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

Life comes at you fast:

Friday:

“Neener neener, you can’t find me!”

That’s a cropped photograph as well, after deleting the original. The original has his PIN and GMail passwords on a sticker on his computer.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:12:59pm

re: #42 A Mom Anon

….. I cannot for the life of me understand why you would not want the country you live in to be successful and have low poverty, fair wages, excellent educational system, great healthcare, a safety net to help as many people as possible, how is that bad? And if you have the power to make it better, why the hell wouldn’t you? Does being wealthy turn you into an idiot? Or just a calculating asshole? Both?
……

This country is — and has been for much of its existence — an oligarchy where the privileged few are only interested in maintaining their wealth and status; if others are given the opportunity to participate — especially if it means money out of your pocket and the potential loss of your prestige to others of different races or ethnic background — you may discover that you are not so special after all. These people have no loyalty to our nation, but only the imaginary heritage of the brilliant founding fathers who created a republic, not a democracy, and created a senate that can silence the will of the majority.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:16:56pm

re: #42 A Mom Anon

I guess it’s based on status and career and that’s all. I cannot for the life of me understand why you would not want the country you live in to be successful and have low poverty, fair wages, excellent educational system, great healthcare, a safety net to help as many people as possible, how is that bad? And if you have the power to make it better, why the hell wouldn’t you? Does being wealthy turn you into an idiot? Or just a calculating asshole? Both?

There is a common thread throughout all of American history from the moment when whites first settled in Jamestown and Plymouth until now.

That thread is selfishness. No country has ever embraced and encouraged selfishness more than the US of A. And that is going to be the downfall of us.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:19:22pm

re: #106 JOE 🥓

There is a common thread throughout all of American history from the moment when whites first settled in Jamestown and Plymouth until now.

That thread is selfishness. No country has ever embraced and encouraged selfishness more than the US of A. And that is going to be the downfall of us.

Amazing that for a country that currently claims to be founded as a “Christian nation”, we’re the biggest bunch of assholes by any objective measure.

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BigPapa  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:21:24pm

I would much rather live modestly in a wealthy society than live wealthy in a struggling society. Besides wanting a better life for all, which one is truly wealthy?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:21:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:24:45pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

Rep. Mo Brooks is a conservative, therefore he’s a liar. The default is for him to provide evidence that the lawsuit service was somehow illegal.

Surely Rep. Brooks has video of this home invasion by process servers or something.

Forbes is already calling BS on the story.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:25:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:25:37pm

re: #107 Dopamine Fish

Amazing that for a country that currently claims to be founded as a “Christian nation”, we’re the biggest bunch of assholes by any objective measure.

Christians claim we’re a Christian nation. The Constitution does not.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:26:24pm

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Rep. Mo Brooks is a conservative, therefore he’s a liar. The default is for him to provide evidence that the lawsuit service was somehow illegal.

Surely Rep. Brooks has video of this home invasion by process servers or something.

Forbes is already calling BS on the story.

Well, no shit. Process servers wouldn’t do something illegal to obtain service. That would fuck over the people who were requesting service, and by extension, they’d just be fucking over themselves. You can be sure that whatever they did, it was entirely aboveboard.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:26:25pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:27:03pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christians claim we’re a Christian nation. The Constitution does not.

This is what I was trying to imply by use of the phrase, “currently claims.” America was not founded as a Christian nation, and even Christians didn’t claim it was founded as a Christian nation for much of its history.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:28:46pm

re: #94 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Yes, I was in such a hurry to slap that together that I didn’t think about the original. I knew it was dwarves, but I had elves on the brain for some reason.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:31:05pm

I never thought much about the dwarves, in Tolkien’s universe. They just don’t do much for me. Perhaps because “dwarves” come with such baggage from the English language.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:34:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:35:47pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:36:01pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christians claim we’re a Christian nation. The Constitution does not.

Yeah, but the Christians that claim we’re a Christian Nation invented a new theology in which Jesus gives them material prizes for perfunctory acts of conservative virtue-signalling (built atop the previous invention of a theology in which America is deeded to white people to do with as they please).

What I’m saying is, they already attacked and dethroned God by running his sacred text through a shredder, I’m not sure they’re even capable of taking the Constitution as meaningful…the words on the paper will mean exactly what they need them to mean.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:37:17pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

When Democrats work together:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:38:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:38:20pm

re: #115 Dopamine Fish

This is what I was trying to imply by use of the phrase, “currently claims.” America was not founded as a Christian nation, and even Christians didn’t claim it was founded as a Christian nation for much of its history.

In each of the four Great Awakenings, they proclaimed precisely that (the first doesn’t count because the country was not yet founded).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:39:52pm

re: #120 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, but the Christians that claim we’re a Christian Nation invented a new theology (cut)

All theology is invented, and at some point is new.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:42:58pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“WE MUST KEEP MINIMUM WAGE LOW TO PROTECT THE DOLLAR MENU!!!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:49:13pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s another interesting tidbit about Heather Bresch:

In 2007, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported that Bresch had claimed to have an MBA degree from West Virginia University, but the university disputed that. The university subsequently awarded her an EMBA despite her having completed only 26 of the required 48 credits. Her father was governor of the state of West Virginia at the time.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:51:51pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s another interesting tidbit about Heather Bresch:

In 2007, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported that Bresch had claimed to have an MBA degree from West Virginia University, but the university disputed that. The university subsequently awarded her an EMBA despite her having completed only 26 of the required 48 credits. Her father was governor of the state of West Virginia at the time.

Sounds about white.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:55:31pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

All theology is invented, and at some point is new.

Technically correct but orthogonal to my point.

I’m pointing out that these people don’t care about the content of the texts they cite as a source of authority.

What “the Constitution” says doesn’t matter if they have power…kind of like how what the Constitution said didn’t matter in the past when white supremacy was just the unspoken norm.

I’m not doing New Atheist roast mode about how terribad religion is, I’m making a cultural anthropological observation that all the shit Americans view as defining their character—and thus the status quo—aren’t solid.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:56:44pm

Unlike Joe, Kyrsten doesn’t have the luxury of arguing that only “moderate” Dems can get elected in her state:

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 3:58:43pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:00:55pm

re: #130 JOE 🥓

They’re making excuses and will continue to do so going forward. Even when the vaccines receive full approval from the FDA, they’ll just come up with new reasons why they simply can’t take it.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:01:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:01:19pm

re: #128 The Ghost of a Flea

Technically correct but orthogonal to my point.

I’m pointing out that these people don’t care about the content of the texts they cite as a source of authority.

What “the Constitution” says doesn’t matter if they have power…kind of like how what the Constitution said didn’t matter in the past when white supremacy was just the unspoken norm.

I’m not doing New Atheist roast mode about how terribad religion is, I’m making a cultural anthropological observation that all the shit Americans view as defining their character—and thus the status quo—isn’t solid.

I’m not sure they ever cared. They slaughtered each other over points of theology for two thousand years (including in this country).

At any rate, I’m going to move on from this, though I am going to keep the word “terribad” for my on-line vocabulary. Thanks for that.

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mmmirele  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:03:21pm

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The ground keeps moving:

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There isn’t a real-time monitor of the fumaroles online, as far as I know. But these quakes are now getting to be pretty shallow, up to about 1km below the surface. And it’s pretty much nothing but sediment all the way down to where the quakes are happening.

Ummm, this is the sort of thing that happened in Iceland, lots and lots of little earthquakes, a few larger earthquakes and then BOOM, they got the current volcano.

Here’s what Wikipedia has to say about historical eruptions at the Salton Buttes:

While the Salton Buttes were formerly considered to be of the late Pleistocene epoch (which ended with the end of the last glacial maximum), newer dating efforts have determined that all of them formed more recently, during the current Holocene epoch, mostly through effusive eruptions. Future eruptions are possible and could endanger the surroundings.

en.wikipedia.org

Late Pleistocene/glacial maximum = more than 11,700 years ago.

Current Holocene epoch = less than 11,700 years ago. As in potentially within time periods when the area may have been inhabited or settled. Like now.

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BigPapa  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:04:11pm

re: #130 JOE 🥓

A fanatic is not encumbered by intellectual consistency or an aversion to hypocrisy. Nor to truth or objectivity. Their only allegiance is to The Truth as embodied and asserted by their Leader or the cult.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:06:04pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:09:54pm

Ho-Hum, another shooting incident in FloriDUMB…

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teleskiguy  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:17:18pm

Huh?!? Floyd Mayweather v. Logan Paul, that’s actually going down?!?

When was the last time someone died in a big boxing match?

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:19:21pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:19:30pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, the thing is I’m not talking about the religious, I’m talking about anyone that treats concepts and texts in a specific way.

It’s not the state (religious/non-religious) that creates the problem we’re dealing with, it’s the process (good faith reading/bad faith reading/not reading but claiming authority).

Basically—we’re dealing with people who will say they “believe” things that define their world and then contradict themselves immediately. What they believe isn’t reliable—sometimes they’re liars, sometimes they’re just so internally bifurcated they don’t see their own contradictions—isn’t meaningful, so we have to look at how they think and believe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:21:12pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s another interesting tidbit about Heather Bresch:

In 2007, The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported that Bresch had claimed to have an MBA degree from West Virginia University, but the university disputed that. The university subsequently awarded her an EMBA despite her having completed only 26 of the required 48 credits. Her father was governor of the state of West Virginia at the time.

I remember when that happened.
That entire family are crooked as the Trumps. Just google Mrs. Manchin and she what SHE has been up to all this time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:24:59pm

In determining Illinois performance in handling Covid, my sister has relied on the positivity rate, which has remained less than 2%, and declining, over the past week. I look at the average daily death count and that still remains higher than it was two months ago. Until the average drops into the single digits, I will remain skeptical about how well we are actually doing and troubled by the fact that we don’t appear to be doing better than Texas or Florida; indeed Texas seems to be managing far better than we are doing when it comes to the mortality metric.

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Interesting Times  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:25:44pm

Not sure if this was already posted, but bears repeating nonetheless:

And from the founder of Indivisible:

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:27:33pm

re: #142 Hecuba’s daughter

In determining Illinois performance in handling Covid, my sister has relied on the positivity rate, which has remained less than 2%, and declining, over the past week. I look at the average daily death count and that still remains higher than it was two months ago. Until the average drops into the single digits, I will remain skeptical about how well we are actually doing and troubled by the fact that we don’t appear to be doing better than Texas or Florida; indeed Texas seems to be managing far better than we are doing when it comes to the mortality metric.

That’s how I’ve been judging it, as it looks like Minnesota’s testing has declined along with their positive case counts, but I am watching deaths (knowing it is a lagging indicator) and hospitalization rates to determine how we’re doing. As it turns out, we’re making progress as we reopen, largely on the back of an effective vaccination campaign.

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plansbandc  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:34:03pm

Can’t stay signed on in here anymore. Wonder what happened?

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:35:22pm

re: #145 plansbandc

I am here. Nothing happened on my end.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:38:20pm

re: #145 plansbandc

I’ve been getting signed off nearly all day. It hasn’t happened in the last hour or so, maybe Charles is adjusting things in the background?

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Interesting Times  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:42:38pm

re: #142 Hecuba’s daughter

Until the average drops into the single digits, I will remain skeptical about how well we are actually doing and troubled by the fact that we don’t appear to be doing better than Texas or Florida; indeed Texas seems to be managing far better than we are doing when it comes to the mortality metric.

You’ll forgive me if I don’t trust the metrics coming out of those particular states (especially Flori-DeSantis-persecutes-whistleblowers).

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:46:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:47:37pm

re: #132 JOE 🥓

He’s a snapping poodle.

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:50:06pm

re: #2 No Malarkey!

At this moment, Joe Manchin, Krysten Sinema, and Merrick Garland are doing more to make this scenario play out than Trump or any Republican could dream of.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:54:18pm

re: #144 Dopamine Fish

That’s how I’ve been judging it, as it looks like Minnesota’s testing has declined along with their positive case counts, but I am watching deaths (knowing it is a lagging indicator) and hospitalization rates to determine how we’re doing. As it turns out, we’re making progress as we reopen, largely on the back of an effective vaccination campaign.

Nebraska is grinding to a halt in new cases. Statewide only fifty-eight people are in hospital.

According to the state dashboard, of our population of 1,961,000; 1,623,000 have now been vaccinated.

The highest risk continues to be the Panhandle (sigh), because of the very low uptake of the vaccine in Wyoming, South Dakota, and Weld Co., Colorado’s rural area.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:54:58pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

He’s a snapping poodle.

Poodle Bites, Poodle Chews it… COME ON FRENCHIE! ……………….. SNAP IT!

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:55:21pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

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Trump has backwards bending knees like a pig or a hyena but I repeat myself…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:55:53pm

re: #145 plansbandc

Can’t stay signed on in here anymore. Wonder what happened?

same thing here.
started late yesterday, have to sign in every time.

yes, annoying because sign in tosses me back to the main page.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:56:13pm

If you sign out and sign back in, it may fix any issues you’ve been having with staying logged in.

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:56:46pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

He’s a snapping poodle.

Poodles don’t have that fancy of a hairdo.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:58:35pm

Jake has snapped at me a couple of times too. He’s kinda known for being a thin-skinned gasbag.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:58:38pm

MY G-D

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 4:59:14pm

I just went into my bedroom and turned on the A/C and the read out said it was 88.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:01:07pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

If you sign out and sign back in, it may fix any issues you’ve been having with staying logged in.

thanks, that worked!

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calochortus  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:02:08pm

re: #145 plansbandc

Can’t stay signed on in here anymore. Wonder what happened?

I was signed out this morning, but it’s been fine since I signed back in.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:03:23pm

Facebook, Kenneth French

This is a bakery in Lufkin, TX. A customer canceled an order of 5 dozen cookies because they saw an image of a rainbow cookie on the bakery’s Facebook page. The bakery posted about it and asked if anyone wanted to buy the extra cookies. That’s a line of people wrapped around the block waiting to buy cookies.
Happy Pride month!

This is the bakery itself:
Confections Bakery Lufkin

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:04:59pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Now that is a good thing. :)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:07:25pm

Claiming it would bring well-being to society, Sindh MPA seeks to bring law, making it mandatory for parents to wed off children at 18 (Dawn)

The draft of the proposed bill, a copy of which is available with dawn.com, stated that the parents of an adult who is not being married off after turning 18 will have to “submit an undertaking with justified reason of delay before the Deputy Commissioner of the District”.

Parents who fail to submit the undertaking would have to pay a fine of Rs500 each, it added.

“This will bring well-being in the society,” the objects and reasons section of the draft states.

and

In a video statement released after the submission of the proposed bill, he said that “societal ills, child rapes, immoral activities and crime” were rising in the country.

“To control all of this … according to the shariat of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Islamic teachings, Muslim males and females have been given the right to marry after attaining puberty or after 18 years of age and fulfilling this is the responsibility of their guardians, especially their parents.”

He said that obstacles in the way of marriages such as unemployment and high costs were a “result of distancing from Islamic teachings”. If we follow Islamic teachings, a lot of ease and blessings will descend upon the family, he added.

(more)

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calochortus  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:10:51pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Facebook, Kenneth French

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This is the bakery itself:
Confections Bakery Lufkin

People are idiots. My daughter informs me that Leslie Patricelli’s books (for toddlers) “Mommy” and “Daddy” got more negative reviews than such classics as “Binky,” “Toot,” and “Mad, Mad, Mad” because they have same sex parents shown (once in each book.) I’m extremely unobservant and read both to my granddaughter without really noticing, because the focus of the book is that Mommies and Daddies are great people who love their children and doesn’t really discuss their sex lives.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:11:37pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:17:15pm

I went for a 30 mile e-bike ride today. It was fun but that’s my upper limit for now. I’ll work my way up to 60 miles over the summer. I kept the pedal assist down to level 1 and 2, mostly. I was getting tired and sore on the last 2 miles so I kicked up the assist to 3-4 and used the throttle a bit. I saw a half dozen e-bikes on the trails.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:18:09pm

Six kilogrammes were seized. The packages were stamped “Made in USA,” but the police do not know whether the stamp is counterfeit. The uranium has been sent to a lab for testing.

Uranium packets seized from Jharkhand’s Bokaro have ‘Made in USA’ Stamp (Times of India, June 5)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:18:55pm

re: #168 Dread Pirate Ron

I went for a 30 mile e-bike ride today. It was fun but that’s my upper limit for now. I’ll work my way up to 60 miles over the summer. I kept the pedal assist down to level 1 and 2, mostly. I was getting tired and sore on the last 2 miles so I kicked up the assist to 3-4 and used the throttle a bit. I saw a half dozen e-bikes on the trails.

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One of the B&Bs I was staying at in Albuquerque had an e-bike in it. Owner used it to get around for some errands and riding. Which for the immediate terrain there made a lot of sense to me.

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William Lewis  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:25:08pm

re: #168 Dread Pirate Ron

Do they have a “I’m a lazy fat old fart” setting?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:27:21pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

GOMERT!!!!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:30:51pm

re: #171 William Lewis

Do they have a “I’m a lazy fat old fart” setting?

It is surprisingly easy to pedal with the assist, you could ride the throttle but you’ll get less mileage out of a battery charge. I still have about 55% of a charge left after 30 miles.

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mmmirele  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:31:01pm

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Six kilogrammes were seized. The packages were stamped “Made in USA,” but the police do not know whether the stamp is counterfeit. The uranium has been sent to a lab for testing.

Uranium packets seized from Jharkhand’s Bokaro have ‘Made in USA’ Stamp (Times of India, June 5)

Not the first time recently either, and Pakistan is concerned, presumably because of the possibility of black market sales. However, in order to actually use the uranium, it would have to be enriched, and for that you’d need a lot more than 6 or 7 kilograms at a time to get enough enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon.

Back when I was in university four decades ago, the general belief was that any country (Nauru was the example given) could become a nuclear power in 10 years if the country went straight at it and made it a top priority. Which is why we have India, Pakistan and North Korea as nuclear states.

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:33:57pm

re: #139 HRH Stanley Sea

The girl on Mod Squad, Peggy Lipton, married Quincy Jones.

She gave up her career for awhile to do the stay-at-home mom thing, but when the kids were old enough went back to work. She’s Twin Peaks’ Log Lady. (and Rashida Jones’ mom).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:36:42pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:38:03pm

re: #168 Dread Pirate Ron

I went for a 30 mile e-bike ride today. It was fun but that’s my upper limit for now. I’ll work my way up to 60 miles over the summer. I kept the pedal assist down to level 1 and 2, mostly. I was getting tired and sore on the last 2 miles so I kicked up the assist to 3-4 and used the throttle a bit. I saw a half dozen e-bikes on the trails.

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That’s awesome.

I’ll be honest: me of 10 years ago would have sniffed at this and said, “electrical is for losers.” Me of today says: “that’s awesome and I wish I could do it because I’ve let myself get so out of shape that I wouldn’t be able to climb a decent hill anymore.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:41:40pm

Still going through the fallout of the previous maladministration.

Hundreds of PPP loans went to phantom farms in Nebraska, elsewhere (Lincoln, Nebr. Journal-Star, today)

The shoreline communities of Ocean County, New Jersey, are a summertime getaway for throngs of urbanites, lined with vacation homes and ice cream parlors. Not exactly pastoral — which is odd, considering the dozens of Paycheck Protection Program loans to supposed farms that flowed into the beach towns last year.

As the first round of the federal government’s relief program for small businesses wound down last summer, “Ritter Wheat Club” and “Deely Nuts,” ostensibly a wheat farm and a tree nut farm, each got $20,833, the maximum amount available for sole proprietorships. “Tomato Cramber,” up the coast in Brielle, got $12,739, while “Seaweed Bleiman” in Manahawkin got $19,957.

None of these entities exist in New Jersey’s business records, and the owners of the homes at which they are purportedly located expressed surprise when contacted by ProPublica. One entity categorized as a cattle ranch, “Beefy King,” was registered in PPP records to the home address of Joe Mancini, the mayor of Long Beach Township.

“There’s no farming here: We’re a sandbar, for Christ’s sake,” said Mancini, reached by telephone. Mancini said that he had no cows at his home, just three dogs.

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:43:13pm

I’m really enjoying the Kennedy Center Honors.

They already did the Debbie Allen and Joan Baez bits, after this commercial Dick Van Dyke is next. (Lin-Manuel Miranda and Bryan Cranston are among the people speaking for this segment).

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:43:27pm

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Why am I not surprised?

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:44:31pm

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Someone was happy about their new fonts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:45:01pm

re: #180 PhillyPretzel

Why am I not surprised?

More:

All of the loans to nonexistent businesses came through Kabbage, an online lending platform that processed nearly 300,000 PPP loans before the first round of funds ran out in August, second only to Bank of America.

In total, ProPublica found 378 small loans totaling $7 million to fake business entities, all of which were structured as single-person operations and received close to the largest loan for which such micro-businesses were eligible. The overwhelming majority of them are categorized as farms, even in the unlikeliest of locales, from potato fields in Palm Beach to orange groves in Minnesota.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:48:33pm

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My family used to take day trips to Long Beach Island NJ. The causeway that takes you to LBI starts in Manahawkin NJ and it is mostly sand.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:52:03pm

Stuart is becoming justly famous for his mesmerizing autochrome restorations but that is not all he does.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:52:05pm

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

My family used to take day trips to Long Beach Island NJ. The causeway that takes you to LBI starts in Manahawkin NJ and it is mostly sand.

No ranches at all? /s

Driving around here is mostly sand and we have lots of ranches.

Maybe they have invisible cattle. /s

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:54:01pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You might get some of those ugly but very good tasting Jersey Tomatoes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:55:41pm

re: #186 PhillyPretzel

You might get some of those ugly but very good tasting Jersey Tomatoes.

A new meaning for red Angus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:56:49pm

It’s about nap time, so I’m going to sign out.

Perhaps I’ll dream of cattle frolicking on the New Jersey beaches.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 6, 2021 • 5:57:31pm

re: #187 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There is supposed to be some good fishing near Barnegat Lighthouse.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:03:25pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Stuart is becoming justly famous for his mesmerizing autochrome restorations but that is not all he does.

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Wonderful.

Brilliant!

‘kin hell!!

Incredible.

Incredible!

Witchcraft!

Wow. How?

Incredible.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:04:41pm

re: #186 PhillyPretzel

You might get some of those ugly but very good tasting Jersey Tomatoes.

Z’s family used to summer on the Jersey Shore when he was a child, he has a memory of Jersey Tomatoes being the best he ever tasted. He asked why I don’t plant “Jersey Tomatoes” in my summer garden and I’m like “because you have to plant them in Jersey dirt.”

BTW there is a place in the Poconos called “Jersey Shore.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:06:01pm

re: #181 jaunte

Someone was happy about their new fonts.

Either that or Batman was in town.

/

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:06:24pm

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:12:24pm

OK, we actually are having connection issues, it wasn’t something in the login code, I just experienced one myself.

I have a support ticket open with HM to upgrade the server soon. It’s been more than five years since the last major upgrade.

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danarchy  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:14:58pm

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More:

for a $320 billion dollar program(first half) $7 million in fraud isn’t bad. I assume there was probably a lot more than that. Unemployment was scammed to the tune of 36 billion.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:36:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:38:08pm
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sagehen  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:49:16pm

re: #195 danarchy

for a $320 billion dollar program(first half) $7 million in fraud isn’t bad. I assume there was probably a lot more than that. Unemployment was scammed to the tune of 36 billion.

“You don’t need congressional oversight. I’m the oversight”

—TFG

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:53:40pm

Kennedy Center is doing a great job of meeting putting on a hell of a show while following Covid protocols. There’s two outdoor stages for musical performances, dance troupes performing on various parts of the grounds (I especially enjoyed Debbie Allen’s students performing in the fountain while Midori’s students played around the perimeter, just far enough back to avoid the splashes).

For Dick Van Dyke, Pentatonix did a heck of a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and Derek Hough led an appropriately costumed dance troupe in Step in Time.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:58:55pm

Well I Googled “Trump’s baggy pants” and most of the links that came up were about yesterday’s “Pants On Backwards” brouhaha, but I did find some articles that were puzzled by why Trump doesn’t wear bespoke suits that would, ya know, make him look good.

One article suggested that he wants to present the image of a “Man Of The People Who Buys Suits At Men’s Wearhouse” except in that case, why buy expensive Brioni suits and not actual Men’s Wearhouse suits?

A second theory is that he is so vain he can’t stand the thought of stripping down to his skivvies to be measured and having the tailor know his real measurements, maybe he could not find a tailor who would agree to sign an NDA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 6:59:26pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Stuart is becoming justly famous for his mesmerizing autochrome restorations but that is not all he does.

That is just…I have no words because I’m stunned

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:02:40pm

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Still going through the fallout of the previous maladministration.

Hundreds of PPP loans went to phantom farms in Nebraska, elsewhere (Lincoln, Nebr. Journal-Star, today)

(more)

I have a legit farm.

Who knew I could have applied for this and provided some jobs?
OTOH, I’m not a factory farm and/or a crook.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:05:03pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:07:35pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:10:42pm
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BeachDem  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:10:53pm

re: #179 sagehen

I’m really enjoying the Kennedy Center Honors.

They already did the Debbie Allen and Joan Baez bits, after this commercial Dick Van Dyke is next. (Lin-Manuel Miranda and Bryan Cranston are among the people speaking for this segment).

The whole show was great—but Garth’s reactions were priceless. When Kelly Clarkson sang “The Dance” he was just weeping.

Edit to add a short clip of it;

Youtube Video

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:12:53pm

re: #179 sagehen

I’m really enjoying the Kennedy Center Honors.

They already did the Debbie Allen and Joan Baez bits, after this commercial Dick Van Dyke is next. (Lin-Manuel Miranda and Bryan Cranston are among the people speaking for this segment).

It’s great to be able to watch this awards show again. Very much loved the ones during the Obama years and this one was great as well.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:18:08pm

re: #203 JOE 🥓

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JOE 🥓  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:23:02pm

re: #205 The Pie Overlord!

And here’s M.C. Stupid!

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No Malarkey!  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:23:31pm

Manchin isn’t the only problem.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:28:18pm

re: #210 No Malarkey!

“If we just pay attention to all these ice warnings, the Titanic will be fine.”

“Nah, fuck that. This ship won’t sink. Full speed ahead!”

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:28:42pm

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m also struggling.

There are lots of people in this country struggling with way worse problems and they need us to keep fighting.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:41:28pm

re: #68 A Mom Anon

I try to look for bright spots, but even those can be difficult to find. I don’t know how an entire country can fight its way out of this spiteful, mean and basically hateful set of beliefs that seem to rule every fucking thing. Punishment and deprivation is just evil after awhile. If the majority of us are good humans, why are the awful humans winning?

Sorry, I am just tired. In every way I can be.

Because good people aren’t willing to do awful things in the name of good. It’s like the paradox of tolerance; if a society wishes to remain tolerant, it must more-or-less ruthlessly suppress the intolerant or else the intolerant will take over.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2021 • 7:44:46pm

re: #213 Dr Lizardo

Because good people aren’t willing to do awful things in the name of good. It’s like the paradox of tolerance; if a society wishes to remain tolerant, it must more-or-less ruthlessly suppress the intolerant or else the intolerant will take over.

And the intolerant are on the ascendancy here.


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