The Bob Cesca Podcast: Frumpkin

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Frumpkin — [Explicit Content] We debut a new game show called America’s Dumbest Dumbstupid, with Ben Shapiro, Louie Gohmert, and a crazy QAnon disciple. Brought to you by Geritol. The world feels really bleak, but there’s reason for hope. Koch network pressuring Joe Manchin; House Dems have passed nearly everything we’ve asked for; House Dems also introduce bill to protect abortion access; Liz Cheney says Republicans feared for their lives; Trump wants to ban Twitter and Facebook; With Jody Hamilton and David TRex Ferguson; Music by Our New Autumn and Robby Bright; and more!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2021 • 9:52:41am

re: #248 wrenchwench

I’m all for replacing the labyrinth of insurance mechanisms with a single-payer system.

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However, I doubt that can happen in the US until enough companies with large employee counts will stand up and acknowledge that health insurance can no longer be provided as an element of employment, unless the US gov’t does something about managing costs.

And that’s the thing: health care is such a big expense because costs are not well managed. Oh, there are vast armies of bean counters involved. It’s not the accounting which is bad, it’s the concept that one gets medical care only at the last moment for some issue.

It is so much cheaper to solve a problem before it is big, than try to tackle the health problem after it becomes a crisis.

But too many Americans can’t afford the preventative care, or early care… so they put things off until they have to go to the emergency room, or some very expensive procedure, etc.

We’re in much that situation with Covid-19. Instead of taking a simple shot, it appear a quarter to a third of Americans would rather have the FREEDUMB to end up in the ICU.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2021 • 9:53:47am

re: #247 Belafon

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dailykos.com

The Repubs are lying for the reason they always do: They want to hem the Dems in by saying that an “agreement” has been reached, so that when things fail to move forward they can blame the Dems for failure to “compromise.”

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 11, 2021 • 9:54:19am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We’re in much that situation with Covid-19. Instead of taking a simple shot, it appear a quarter to a third of Americans would rather have the FREEDUMB to end up in the ICU.

Bear in mind, that shot is completely free, too. It’s not like there’s any financial burden to getting vaccinated against this virulent disease. It’s literally just down to people being assholes. When you factor in financial components, it gets so much worse, as you noted.

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 11, 2021 • 9:55:18am

Really don’t care about the morale of the people working at the DOJ or their feelings, what Garland is perpetuating there is BS.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2021 • 9:56:59am

End-of-Life care is very expensive. This is a major national expense. We don’t talk about that much because we don’t like talking about death.

But if we accept that the care at the end of life is pretty much a universal given, and just accept that (we sort of do now - emergency rooms can’t turn people away just because they feel like it, so hospitals amortize the cost of non-payers across all the insurance billings), then we should also accept that care before death makes even more sense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2021 • 9:57:45am

re: #3 Dopamine Fish

Bear in mind, that shot is completely free, too. It’s not like there’s any financial burden to getting vaccinated against this virulent disease. It’s literally just down to people being assholes. When you factor in financial components, it gets so much worse, as you noted.

And although they cannot turn you away from the IC, they can bill you. And if you cannot pay, then the cost gets passed onto other people who can.

Which is another reason that insurance costs are galloping out of control: poor management.

A vaccine is a lot cheaper than a ventilator.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2021 • 9:59:48am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m all for replacing the labyrinth of insurance mechanisms with a single-payer system.

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However, I doubt that can happen in the US until enough companies with large employee counts will stand up and acknowledge that health insurance can no longer be provided as an element of employment, unless the US gov’t does something about managing costs.

And that’s the thing: health care is such a big expense because costs are not well managed. Oh, there are vast armies of bean counters involved. It’s not the accounting which is bad, it’s the concept that one gets medical care only at the last moment for some issue.

It is so much cheaper to solve a problem before it is big, than try to tackle the health problem after it becomes a crisis.

But too many Americans can’t afford the preventative care, or early care… so they put things off until they have to go to the emergency room, or some very expensive procedure, etc.

We’re in much that situation with Covid-19. Instead of taking a simple shot, it appear a quarter to a third of Americans would rather have the FREEDUMB to end up in the ICU.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:02:43am

re: #2 Targetpractice

The Repubs are lying for the reason they always do: They want to hem the Dems in by saying that an “agreement” has been reached, so that when things fail to move forward they can blame the Dems for failure to “compromise.”

as i just posted below:

we agree on everything except like the two core issues:

“total spending and how to pay for it”

ffs
they havent agreed on where the bunsen burners are gonna go
or whether they’ll be drinking coffee or sanka during the experiments

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:07:21am

having a pretty good friday so far

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:10:02am

Asshole Baked Alaska continues to encourage violence while he’s out of jail.

rawstory.com

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:13:29am

“Interviews with more than a dozen election workers and top officials - and a review of disturbing texts, voicemails and emails that they and their families received - reveal the previously hidden breadth and severity of the menacing tactics,” Reuters reports.

Two particularly disturbing incidents come from Tricia Raffensperger, wife of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R-GA): “In late November, the family went into hiding for nearly a week after intruders broke into the home of the Raffenspergers’ widowed daughter-in-law, an incident the family believed was intended to intimidate them. That evening, people who identified themselves to police as Oath Keepers - a far-right militia group that has supported Trump’s bid to overturn the election - were found outside the Raffenspergers’ home.”

She also received a chilling text message: “You and your family will be killed very slowly.”

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:13:56am

re: #5 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

End-of-Life care is very expensive. This is a major national expense. We don’t talk about that much because we don’t like talking about death.

But if we accept that the care at the end of life is pretty much a universal given, and just accept that (we sort of do now - emergency rooms can’t turn people away just because they feel like it, so hospitals amortize the cost of non-payers across all the insurance billings), then we should also accept that care before death makes even more sense.

a lot of end-of-life care (“heroic measures”) is ineffective, supremely expensive, and torturous to the patient. Most doctors, when they themselves get to that stage, don’t want it. They’d rather go into hospice and spend their remaining time with their family.

But of course, when Obama-care wanted to include covering the meeting where old people discuss their wishes with their primary care physician, Sarah Palin called it “death panels” and so much for that sensible idea.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:18:18am
It all started when 23-year-old Kevin Schoolcraft became angry that a woman had cut him off on I-25 northeast of downtown Albuquerque, New Mexico.

As reported by KOB 4 Albuquerque, to express his displeasure with this lack of respect for his space, Schoolcraft pointed a gun at the woman.

In the process, the road rager shot himself in the leg.

It gets better.

After the shooting, Schoolcraft had to drive his wounded self to the hospital, where police arrested the gunslinger and charged him with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

dailykos.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:18:18am

re: #9 Dangerman

Biden deputy attorney general asks Justice Department watchdog to probe Trump-era seizure of Democrats’ data.

He should call the President of Ukraine and ask him to look into Trump…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:18:26am

re: #5 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

End-of-Life care is very expensive. This is a major national expense. We don’t talk about that much because we don’t like talking about death.

But if we accept that the care at the end of life is pretty much a universal given, and just accept that (we sort of do now - emergency rooms can’t turn people away just because they feel like it, so hospitals amortize the cost of non-payers across all the insurance billings), then we should also accept that care before death makes even more sense.

For example, the FDA just approved a new medication for Alzheimer’s against the advise of the advisory panel which will cost $56,000 annually.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:19:13am

re: #5 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

End-of-Life care is very expensive. This is a major national expense. We don’t talk about that much because we don’t like talking about death.

Germany enacted a old-age care insurance bill some decades ago. America is still decades away from doing that.

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:20:31am

Carryover from the overnight dead thread:

re: #247 Belafon

Broadly speaking, gas taxes (and use taxes generally) are regressive since they disproportionately affect those with lower incomes than those with higher incomes. GOP is trying to have yet another gotcha moment for Biden by trying to get him to violate his no tax on those making $400k or less pledge. It’s entirely predictable that the GOP would refuse to allow any taxes hit precisely those above the $400k threshold.

The following two things can both be true:
1) motor fuel taxes are regressive; and
2) motor fuel taxes should be adjusted for inflation annually.

Maintaining infrastructure is paid for out of fuel taxes and the federal fuel tax hasn’t been increased in years. At time when GOP refuses to increase taxes and wont look at per mile use tax as alternative (to deal with EVs and hybrids that are far more efficient or don’t use gas at all), there has to be some way to raise that revenue.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:21:05am

Just to get ahead of the next right-wing outrage, Dr. Biden and her husband wore sneakers to a bar after the president’s meeting with Boris.

dailykos.com

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:22:00am

re: #18 Belafon

Just to get ahead of the next right-wing outrage, Dr. Biden and her husband wore sneakers to a bar after the president’s meeting with Boris.

dailykos.com

Were they on backwards?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:22:04am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There are also a lot of of extremely wealthy and powerful health care companies that are diligently lining the pockets of politicians to maintain the status quo.

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A Cranky One  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:22:10am

re: #18 Belafon

Could have been worse.

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:22:21am

re: #15 No Malarkey!

For example, the FDA just approved a new medication for Alzheimer’s against the advise of the advisory panel which will cost $56,000 annually.

And that new drug has not been shown to actually improve or roll back actual symptoms of Alzheimers. Rather, it seems to reduce plaque buildup in the brain - which is not the same thing.

Given how it’s being touted as a treatment, you can bet people and doctors will clamor to get/use the drug, and it will end up draining Medicare budget for good measure.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:22:22am

re: #17 lawhawk

Agree, and we need to be putting something in place now for electric cars.

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:23:11am

re: #21 A Cranky One

Could have been worse.

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1970’s.

The decade that fashion forgot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:24:21am

re: #24 sagehen

1970’s.

The decade that fashion forgot.

Gotta love those socks though.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:27:12am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

Gotta love those socks though.

//

would look good with a kilt

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:27:41am

re: #24 sagehen

1970’s.

The decade that fashion forgot.

Especially 1975-80 when I wore neon bright leisure suits…

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:28:27am

re: #24 sagehen

1970’s.

The decade that fashion forgot.

On purpose.

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Targetpractice  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:32:30am

re: #24 sagehen

1970’s.

The decade that fashion forgot.

I just look at what was considered “fashion” and assume drugs were involved.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:32:40am

re: #13 Belafon

dailykos.com

Loss of freedom finances and future 2a rights.
Total misuse of a weapon.
She ddint have a gun
She was not a threat nor being threatening
He was not in fear of imminent death or injury
This is not why the nra says everyone needs a gun

Loss of control of the weapon besides is just the icing

But no gun owner want to cull this knucklehead out of their herd.
They want this loser as their poster boy

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:36:00am

re: #16 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Medicare covers a large portion of the end-of-life care here in the US. Few people can really afford to pay out of their own pockets these big ticket items.

Medicaid can pay for some, but each state has its own peculiarities about this.

Few Americans will go through life without needing some big-ticket health care service.

If we just acknowledge this, and accept that the best way to live our lives is to manage our care right from the start (the womb), we will be so much ahead of where we are today.

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:38:16am

re: #23 Belafon

Agree, and we need to be putting something in place now for electric cars.

Interesting diary on this subject over at dKos:

Short version: new battery technology MAY improve storage performance (and, more importantly, drastically reduce charging times).
Caveats: still in the experimental stage: commercial introduction is likely many years away; and charging issues (5 minutes for 300 miles) will likely stress the electrical grid.
Still possible good news, though.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:38:53am

re: #14 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He should call the President of Ukraine and ask him to look into Trump…

Right, if it’s legal and all…
It could be a great phone call. The best

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:43:02am

re: #6 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And although they cannot turn you away from the IC, they can bill you. And if you cannot pay, then the cost gets passed onto other people who can.

Which is another reason that insurance costs are galloping out of control: poor management.

A vaccine is a lot cheaper than a ventilator.

Another reason insurance costs are rising - when W passed the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act, it prohibited the federal government from negotiating discounts with drug companies.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:44:36am

re: #34 BeenHereAwhile

Another reason insurance costs are rising - when W passed the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act, it prohibited the federal government from negotiating discounts with drug companies.

And remember that the clown who wrote the bill became the head of PhRMA.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:44:46am

Why it’s still useful to fund space research:

Two scientific teams at the Wake Forest Institute for Regenerative Medicine (WFIRM) have placed first and second in the U.S. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Vascular Tissue Challenge, a contest to advance tissue engineering to benefit people on Earth and future space explorers. Teams Winston and WFRIM three-dimensionally (3D)-printed laboratory-cultured human liver tissues that could survive and function in a manner like their in-body counterparts. Each team assembled a cube-shaped tissue that could function for 30 days in the lab, using gel-like scaffolds with a network of channels to maintain oxygen and nutrient levels. Team Winston will work with the International Space Station U.S. National Laboratory to adapt its technique for space.

nasa.gov

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:46:50am

re: #15 No Malarkey!

For example, the FDA just approved a new medication for Alzheimer’s against the advise of the advisory panel which will cost $56,000 annually.

And might not actually do anything it claims

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:48:10am

re: #33 Dangerman

Right, if it’s legal and all…
It could be a great phone call. The best

A perfect call. Tremendously perfect.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:49:43am

re: #24 sagehen

1970’s.

The decade that fashion forgot.

The fashion decade id like to forget

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:50:09am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

Gotta love those socks though.

//

The hell I do

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:50:39am

re: #29 Targetpractice

I just look at what was considered “fashion” and assume drugs were involved.

Copious

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A Mom Anon  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:51:00am

But wait!! There’s More!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:52:31am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:52:52am
A spokesperson for video game publisher Electronic Arts (EA) verified that hackers have compromised the company’s systems and stolen game source code and other assets. The hackers claimed in online forum posts that they had acquired 780 gigabytes of data, including the Frostbite source code undergirding a series of video games, and were offering “full capability of exploiting on all EA services.” The hackers also said they had stolen software development tools and server code for player matchmaking in several other games. The EA spokesperson said, “No player data was accessed, and we have no reason to believe there is any risk to player privacy,” adding that the company is “actively working with law enforcement officials and other experts as part of this ongoing criminal investigation.”

cnn.com

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:55:21am

Are we surprised?

Nope.

‘People of Praise leaders failed me’: Christian group tied to Justice Amy Coney Barrett faces reckoning over sexual misconduct

Yep, they cover up molestation allegations in the grand Catholic tradition!

washingtonpost.com

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:56:22am

re: #13 Belafon

It all started when 23-year-old Kevin Schoolcraft became angry that a woman had cut him off on I-25 northeast of downtown Albuquerque, New Mexico.

It would be helpful if all media reporting on these stories pointed out that being “cut off” in traffic is an extreme form of victim thinking, making it sound like a real injury has happened. Being prevented by a second or two from going where they wanted to go would be better described as being “very slightly delayed” but it doesn’t carry the same drama.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 11, 2021 • 10:57:31am
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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:07:19am
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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:07:30am
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retired cynic  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:10:36am

re: #42 A Mom Anon

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calochortus  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:11:11am

re: #37 Dangerman

And might not actually do anything it claims

Apparently one trial showed no improvement and the other only showed positive results after they went back and futzed around with the analysis.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:14:32am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:22:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:26:17am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:27:51am

re: #50 retired cynic

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:28:29am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:29:39am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She’s making sure that the border South Carolina shares with Mexico is secure.

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:30:39am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

AG Garland delivers major policy speech on voting rights

Is he fer ‘em or agen ‘em?

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:31:11am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:32:31am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:32:49am

These numbnuts will never realize that immigration issues aren’t actually addressed AT THE BORDER.

Like, you have to actually change the laws and policies to address these things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:33:42am

burn…

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retired cynic  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:36:39am

re: #55 A Mom Anon

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:37:15am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:42:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:42:34am
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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:43:24am

re: #44 Belafon

cnn.com

Pricks ripped me off 15 years ago and never paid me for game code I wrote…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:44:40am

re: #67 JOE 🥓

Pricks ripped me off 15 years ago and never paid me for game code I wrote…

Damn. I already hate EA to be clear, but…damn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:45:19am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:45:30am

re: #65 Charles Johnson

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Someone should also propose talking about critical class theory and maybe we can explain that we’re not going to be able to fix the rich screwing everyone over until we fix our race problem.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:49:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:50:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:51:07am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:53:05am

I can’t think of the G-7 anymore without thinking of this:

“Now, listen here you ignorant orange bastard…”

Also, wasn’t this where Trump shoved another world leader out of the way during a photo op?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:53:08am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:54:55am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

On that topic, apparently Texas Dumbass-in-Chief Greg Abbott says that he’s gonna build the goddamn wall, though it is not immediately apparent how he’s going to accomplish this.

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retired cynic  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:55:43am

Deb Haaland: My grandparents were stolen from their families as children. We must learn about this history.
washingtonpost.com

It shames me to say it, but my husband, as a child, had a Native American girl as a “nanny” and as help for his mother, who was confined to bed for over a year. They stayed in touch with her for years, and considered her a dear family friend. She came from one of the “schools” in Kansas.

This is an excellent opinion piece. Just be careful in the comments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:56:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:57:48am
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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:58:07am

re: #76 Dopamine Fish

On that topic, apparently Texas Dumbass-in-Chief Greg Abbott says that he’s gonna build the goddamn wall, though it is not immediately apparent how he’s going to accomplish this.

At this point I am not sure if Abbott is trying to keep the Mexicans out or the Texans in.

//

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:58:12am

re: #71 Dread Pirate Ron

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Meh.
100% of the people in every other country on Earth could have 100% approval of Pres. Biden’s FP; and his domestic opponents are still likely to bitch and moan endlessly about how he isn’t “putting America First”, and what a disgrace he is compared to TFG’s “tough” policies…..

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:58:59am

re: #32 Jay C

Interesting diary on this subject over at dKos:

Short version: new battery technology MAY improve storage performance (and, more importantly, drastically reduce charging times).
Caveats: still in the experimental stage: commercial introduction is likely many years away; and charging issues (5 minutes for 300 miles) will likely stress the electrical grid.
Still possible good news, though.

“Time to full charge: 16 milliseconds.
NOTE: Please observe all arc flash precautions. Protective clothing may be necessary.”
///

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2021 • 11:59:22am

83 degrees and 60% humidity. Bleah. Not as bad as yesterday to be sure, but still…

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:00:16pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

There are a number of articles about the SBC meeting starting on Sunday from non-religious news sources:

“The Southern Baptist Convention is going to hell in a handbasket.”
nymag.com
(racism and child sexual abuse)

“The Fight for the Heart of the Southern Baptist Convention”
newyorker.com
(centers around Black Southern Baptist pastor Dwight McKissic, who is on the verge of taking his church out of the SBC due to the racism and the CRT madness. There is no discussion about the abuse, which, while it’s been an issue for years, only popped back up into prominence in the last two weeks when Not A Nice Guy Russell Moore resigned from a SBC organization over coverups on sexual abuse, and it’s gotten worse.)

“The Scandal Rocking the Evangelical World”
theatlantic.com
(This gives more background about Not A Nice Guy Russell Moore.)

I expect more stories will come out in the next several days.

And I’m serious about the (figuratively) burn down part. The person who sent the quoted document in this tweet is one Augie Boto. He used to be the SBC’s lawyer, he retired in 2019. But he’s a horrible, evil person and says advocates of sexual abuse victims like Christa Brown and Rachael Denhollander are “a satanic scheme to completely distract us from evangelism”

Hell isn’t hot enough for these people yet (if I even believed in hell).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:00:51pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:01:41pm

re: #81 Jay C

Meh.
100% of the people in every other country on Earth could have 100% approval of Pres. Biden’s FP; and his domestic opponents are still likely to bitch and moan endlessly about how he isn’t “putting America First”, and what a disgrace he is compared to TFG’s “tough” policies…..

But now at least we’ll be told when foreign intelligence detects something that might interest us.

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Citizen K  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:02:29pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:02:45pm

re: #74 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t think of the G-7 anymore without thinking of this:

[Embedded content]

“Now, listen here you ignorant orange bastard…”

Also, wasn’t this where Trump shoved another world leader out of the way during a photo op?

Oh and this was also when Trump tossed starbursts at Merkel.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:03:26pm

re: #76 Dopamine Fish

On that topic, apparently Texas Dumbass-in-Chief Greg Abbott says that he’s gonna build the goddamn wall, though it is not immediately apparent how he’s going to accomplish this.

Mexico will pay for it

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:03:54pm

re: #87 Citizen K

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“If we’d only make the name more palatable to whites then I’m sure they’d accept it.”

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calochortus  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:04:20pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ummm, drinking eau de cologne without anyone smelling it???? When I was in 7th grade a kid drank some (because 7th grade boy) and he reeked of it. Which is how everyone knew he’d done that. Unless women were pouring it on their exteriors in massive quantities as well, everyone would know.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:07:14pm

re: #84 mmmirele

Nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing the Southern Fried Baptists shatter into pieces during that convention.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:12:43pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

And several Democratic Senators are playing along.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:12:49pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:13:20pm

re: #64 lawhawk

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Well that’s good. Now what about him continuing with some of Barr’s policies…..

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:15:03pm

TexASS again…

Texas tourist charged with hate crime against Asian family visiting Okaloosa Island

weartv.com

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:18:28pm

re: #92 JOE 🥓

Nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing the Southern Fried Baptists shatter into pieces during that convention.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the recordings that dropped yesterday.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:19:06pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:25:01pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate Ron

The plague boat soon will be making another run
The plague boat promises sickness for everyone

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:29:03pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate Ron

Who could have ever imagined?

Oh right, everyone with three brain cells.

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lawhawk  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:29:50pm
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sagehen  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:33:56pm

re: #74 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t think of the G-7 anymore without thinking of this:

[Embedded content]

“Now, listen here you ignorant orange bastard…”

Also, wasn’t this where Trump shoved another world leader out of the way during a photo op?

nah, that was G-20. Or maybe that was a NATO or EU thing? I don’t think Montenegro is a G-20 nation.

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Ferdinand  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:37:21pm

Here’s a weird convergence. I just cancelled a job interview scheduled for this afternoon, a digital content writer gig for local media here in Seattle — a set of websites and broadcast stations including local news and the local ESPN radio affiliate. The job description passed my initial sniff test when I applied, the company (Bonneville) has a presence in a lot of markets.
Then I found out they’re owned by the Church of Latter Day Saints. OK, not necessarily a deal breaker. I’ve worked for religiously owned organizations before. Then in my interview prep I caught that one of the handful of properties for which I’d be responsible is the local station broadcasting Dan Bongino. DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
Here’s the meat of the email I just sent. It felt good to write it.
After more closely reviewing the websites linked in the job description in preparation for speaking, I am withdrawing from consideration for the Digital Content Writer role. While much of your material is professional and well-crafted, I cannot in good conscience support some of the voices and perspectives for whom you are a platform — Dan Bongino in particular. His crass and intellectually flabby rhetoric is a major contributor to the dangerous paranoia currently threatening the well-being of our civic order, and not something with which I can associate.
I’m hustling for new work, but I’m not that desperate. I’ve got enough contract copywriting work and academic editing right now to get by, and Amazon has finally reached out to interview me for a full-time job after about my 10th application to them. Yeah Bezos. But fuck Bongino. Oh and they publish Michael fucking Medved too. I’d never get the stink off … :)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:39:40pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:46:59pm

This seems like a pretty big deal for people who were enslaved by Sony Music.

Sony Music writes off artists’ decades-old debts (BBC News)

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:50:28pm

re: #97 mmmirele

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:53:36pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate Ron

2 asymptomatic positives in a 95% vaccinated group. That’s what it looks like when a disease is well-controlled by vaccination.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 11, 2021 • 12:56:49pm

Now I want to read a book about Critical Race Theory. Can anyone recommend a good one?

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:07:04pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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once again, why hasnt head of NASA been to the moon yet?

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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:08:34pm

re: #108 The Pie Overlord!

Now I want to read a book about Critical Race Theory. Can anyone recommend a good one?

Take a look at Amazon where right wingers are flooding those books with negative one star reviews…and they recite word for word the exact same things…

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:13:06pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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it’s a way to get a foot in the curriculum door

see: creation science

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:13:22pm

re: #110 JOE 🥓

Take a look at Amazon where right wingers are flooding those books with negative one star reviews…and they recite word for word the exact same things…

You can report fake reviews, but I don’t know if they’ll care.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:14:59pm

re: #76 Dopamine Fish

On that topic, apparently Texas Dumbass-in-Chief Greg Abbott says that he’s gonna build the goddamn wall, though it is not immediately apparent how he’s going to accomplish this.

he’s got an entire plan, except for the funding, the land, or a schedule

kind of like that gang of 20 on infrastrutcure, where only 10 of them ‘have a deal’ except how to pay for it and how much to spend

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:17:56pm

re: #100 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who could have ever imagined?

Oh right, everyone with three brain cells.

The vaccination significantly reduces the risk of contracting the disease and also reduces the likelihood of serious symptoms if you actually become ill. But it doesn’t entirely eliminate adverse consequences. The question does become when will it be possible to return to a truly normal existence or are we fated to have to avoid crowds for the rest of our lives? And not just crowds, but any environment when we might be exposed to unmasked people outside our pod.

Also have to say the decisions of certain states to reduce frequency of reporting somewhat reeks of Trump’s comments last year. From a VOA report June 2020:

“We’re at a low mark,” Trump told reporters in the Cabinet Room on Monday afternoon.
…..
“If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any,” Trump asserted.

The situation is certainly different, but I don’t trust anything reported from Florida or Texas or any state under Republican control. And the upsurge in cases (though not yet deaths) in the UK remains very concerning about the harm from new variants, especially Delta out of India.

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teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:18:00pm

Not being on Twitter has actually been good for my mental health. Not seeing the most egregious oatmeal-brained word vomit spill from Bobo’s pie hole a few times a day is nice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:18:22pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:18:50pm

re: #76 Dopamine Fish

Is Governor Ironside going to use the same Russian steel Trump ordered for the wall?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:20:24pm
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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:21:20pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate Ron

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no no no no no - there is no need for this

two people of a total of 600 passengers and 700 crew
it says both were vaccinated and asymptomatic

two people tested positive is not an ‘outbreak’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:22:13pm

oh…

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:24:04pm

re: #103 Ferdinand

Here’s a weird convergence. I just cancelled a job interview scheduled for this afternoon, a digital content writer gig for local media here in Seattle — a set of websites and broadcast stations including local news and the local ESPN radio affiliate. The job description passed my initial sniff test when I applied, the company (Bonneville) has a presence in a lot of markets.
Then I found out they’re owned by the Church of Latter Day Saints. OK, not necessarily a deal breaker. I’ve worked for religiously owned organizations before. Then in my interview prep I caught that one of the handful of properties for which I’d be responsible is the local station broadcasting Dan Bongino. DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
Here’s the meat of the email I just sent. It felt good to write it.
After more closely reviewing the websites linked in the job description in preparation for speaking, I am withdrawing from consideration for the Digital Content Writer role. While much of your material is professional and well-crafted, I cannot in good conscience support some of the voices and perspectives for whom you are a platform — Dan Bongino in particular. His crass and intellectually flabby rhetoric is a major contributor to the dangerous paranoia currently threatening the well-being of our civic order, and not something with which I can associate.
I’m hustling for new work, but I’m not that desperate. I’ve got enough contract copywriting work and academic editing right now to get by, and Amazon has finally reached out to interview me for a full-time job after about my 10th application to them. Yeah Bezos. But fuck Bongino. Oh and they publish Michael fucking Medved too. I’d never get the stink off … :)

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teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:24:56pm

I’ve talked to a few folks about our congressmoron Lauren Boebert since my article came out. The common refrain, among the folks I know who did and didn’t vote for her, is that she’s the best at one thing: promoting herself. Narcissists are very good at that.

My congressmoron Lauren Boebert will be 35 in December. Unless she goes to prison I’ll be paying attention to her whether I like it or not for a long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:25:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:27:03pm
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John Hughes  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:28:13pm

re: #67 JOE 🥓

Pricks ripped me off 15 years ago and never paid me for game code I wrote…

EA Games, the Computer Associates of gaming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:28:22pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:29:56pm

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

“If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any,” Trump asserted.

how this man became president….

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:31:13pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

The US has huge tracts of land.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:31:30pm
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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:32:25pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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smiling

not smiling

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:35:08pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

I’ve talked to a few folks about our congressmoron Lauren Boebert since my article came out. The common refrain, among the folks I know who did and didn’t vote for her, is that she’s the best at one thing: promoting herself. Narcissists are very good at that.

My congressmoron Lauren Boebert will be 35 in December. Unless she goes to prison I’ll be paying attention to her whether I like it or not for a long time.

meanwhile people, even people in your district, want results.
they don’t really care who delivers or whether it’s ‘bipartisan’
they also know who didnt do shit for them

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:35:25pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

The funniest from that article:

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:36:17pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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i believe that there might be an allusion to “The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin”
some of the best brit comedy ever

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:36:43pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve never seen a dog switch to crab-mode on a slippery surface before.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:39:27pm

re: #133 Dangerman

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:39:47pm

re: #134 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’ve never seen a dog switch to crab-mode on a slippery surface before.

now, with theme music…

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:42:48pm

re: #135 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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yup
and imma be pissed if #133 doesnt get more upvotes

“11 minutes late, staff difficulties at Hamton Wick” indeed

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:43:12pm
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sagehen  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:45:00pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

this one was my favorite:

“I know it looks daunting and it’s natural to doubt yourself, but you have to do this: Every Prime Minister since Gladstone has swum a mile out to sea, caught and subdued a seal bare-handed, and brought it back to shore as an offering to the US President. There’s no other way.”

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:45:35pm

we all know what ‘didnt recall’ means

barr is saying he didnt know what was going on in his own DOJ

Politico: “In a phone interview, Barr said he didn’t recall getting briefed on the moves… Barr also said that while he was attorney general, he was ‘not aware of any congressman’s records being sought in a leak case.’”

eta:

He also said Trump never encouraged him to target the Democratic lawmakers in this case.

so he and the DOJ did it of their own accord? that’s not better.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:46:04pm

re: #103 Ferdinand

Very interested in their reply.

Bravo.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:46:08pm

re: #108 The Pie Overlord!

Now I want to read a book about Critical Race Theory. Can anyone recommend a good one?

I’d start with these:
1619 Project A New Origin Story

Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement

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No Malarkey!  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:46:13pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:47:17pm

re: #140 Dangerman

we all know what ‘didnt recall’ means

barr is saying he didnt know what was going on in his own DOJ

eta:

so he and the DOJ did it of their own accord? that’s not better.

It’s better for Trump, the person that Barr placed above the law.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:47:18pm
“The Republican National Committee would consider circumventing major television networks if the presidential debate process is not overhauled,” Politico reports.

shorter: RNC expects no one to watch debates.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:47:49pm

re: #103 Ferdinand

Your honor serves you well. Good luck finding decent work and value for your labor.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:49:59pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

This one killed me:

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:50:09pm

WUT THE ACTUAL…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:50:53pm

re: #145 Dangerman

shorter: RNC expects no one to watch debates.

It’s a bluff. Trump can’t refuse to debate Biden. I wonder if they would hold the debate in the prison he is incarcerated in?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:51:34pm

I’m trying to pay back taxes. Yesterday I got two stimulus checks in my bank account. I can’t go online and see what the balance is because you need a credit card or a mortgage to establish your identity online. Debit cards don’t work. Why? I want to give them money. Not willing to wait on hold for an hour.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:54:03pm

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

WUT THE ACTUAL…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:56:26pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m trying to pay back taxes. Yesterday I got two stimulus checks in my bank account. I can’t go online and see what the balance is because you need a credit card or a mortgage to establish your identity online. Debit cards don’t work. Why? I want to give them money. Not willing to wait on hold for an hour.

I have neither, so if they wanted money from me, I’d leave it to them to try to take it, but that probably winds up as a 2nd amendment solution as things escalate.

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Ferdinand  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:58:14pm

re: #108 The Pie Overlord!

Now I want to read a book about Critical Race Theory. Can anyone recommend a good one?

This is really all about Kendi’s work, for better and worse, so these are the books to read: ibramxkendi.com. We’ve got How to Be an Anti-Racist on audiobook, and are making our way through. My wife just wrapped up working on an educator’s institute on the Tulsa Race Massacre and we’ve been doing a deep dive.

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:58:33pm

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

WUT THE ACTUAL…

I wonder what state they’re in that these morons want the AG to “investigate” this nonsense?
I’m guessing (well, hoping, actually) that most state AG’s offices would tell Newsmax to go take a good hard flying, but who knows these days…?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 11, 2021 • 1:59:33pm

re: #152 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I have neither, so if they wanted money from me, I’d leave it to them to try to take it, but that probably winds up as a 2nd amendment solution as things escalate.

What’s worse is that I have no idea what address I used in 2015. I really want to pay, but they are making it difficult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:01:12pm
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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:03:33pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

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i see you posted it in the original Greek

re: #130 Dangerman

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:08:25pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Are they under some kind of geodesic force field :-)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:09:04pm

My brain has fried. I know this can’t possibly be real but the image won’t go away.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:10:20pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:11:18pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh…

But nothing was planned. He just wanted to stake out the best place to have his tourist picnic lunch the next day.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:12:55pm

re: #128 BlueSpotinAL

The US has huge tracts of land.

Unless we are talking about immigrants, then we are full.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:14:36pm

re: #125 John Hughes

EA Games, the Computer Associates of gaming.

Wonder if Broadcom adopted that particular behaviour of CA, whom they recently swallowed for ghod knows why….

(for those who aren’t aware: Computer Asoociates had a notorious reputation that when they acquired firms that they would comb through their employee files and if CA had terminated an employee they would unilaterally fire them inpertuity.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:15:44pm

re: #158 Eventual Carrion

Are they under some kind of geodesic force field :-)

I saw that.
I have questions…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:17:54pm

re: #158 Eventual Carrion

Are they under some kind of geodesic force field :-)

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

I saw that.
I have questions…

ah:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:20:38pm

The Eden Project in Cornwall

medium.com

Established in Cornwall, England in 1998, the Eden Project consists of a pair of geodesic domes made from inflated EFTE membrane facets, atop the remains of a depleted clay quarry. The domes, covering a total of 5.5 acres, are not fully sealed off from the outside environment except during the colder months. This is because their purpose is mainly to keep the interiors warm for the various tropical plants and animals which have been transplanted into them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:22:02pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Eden Project in Cornwall

medium.com

also a wiki page
en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:22:43pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:23:02pm

re: #155 I Would Prefer Not To

What’s worse is that I have no idea what address I used in 2015. I really want to pay, but they are making it difficult.

Is there a tax office you can just show up at?

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:23:06pm

My once and future lady found some photos and shared them with me today. I wanted to share this one because it was the only really good portrait I ever had taken. Cell phone of an old print but it’s ok. Illeshiem, FRG 1984 assigned to C 1st Bn 13th Tank 1AD.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:27:37pm

re: #170 William Lewis

My once and future lady found some photos and shared them with me today. I wanted to share this one because it was the only really good portrait I ever had taken. Cell phone of an old print but it’s ok. Illeshiem, FRG 1984 assigned to C 1st Bn 13th Tank 1AD.

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i knew you were taller

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:27:43pm
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:29:27pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Though I am going to make sure my kids understand what the phrase means.

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:30:50pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m all for replacing the labyrinth of insurance mechanisms with a single-payer system.

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However, I doubt that can happen in the US until enough companies with large employee counts will stand up and acknowledge that health insurance can no longer be provided as an element of employment, unless the US gov’t does something about managing costs.

And that’s the thing: health care is such a big expense because costs are not well managed. Oh, there are vast armies of bean counters involved. It’s not the accounting which is bad, it’s the concept that one gets medical care only at the last moment for some issue.

It is so much cheaper to solve a problem before it is big, than try to tackle the health problem after it becomes a crisis.

But too many Americans can’t afford the preventative care, or early care… so they put things off until they have to go to the emergency room, or some very expensive procedure, etc.

We’re in much that situation with Covid-19. Instead of taking a simple shot, it appear a quarter to a third of Americans would rather have the FREEDUMB to end up in the ICU.

This is one of the reasons I tend to favor a public option. There’s too many complications with replacing the entire system with something new. But if each year when employers give employees the form to decide which policy they want, there’s a little box to check for Medicare (or whatever we are going to call it), there’s a better chance that it catches on and works.

But as you mentioned, there’s a deeper problem and it involves a lot of corporate cultures… the fact that employers/managers tend to question or look down on employees for taking time off - whether it’s vacation or sick time, or even just going to the doctor. That makes it hard to get preventative care, when you’re facing judgment, even if it doesn’t rise to the level of retaliation, for taking an hour or two on a random Tuesday to see the doctor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:34:11pm
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John Hughes  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:40:05pm

re: #94 Dread Pirate Ron

The US is no longer a “shining city upon a hill.”

fucking delusional. It never was, nobody ever thought it was.

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John Hughes  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:43:04pm

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

But it doesn’t entirely eliminate adverse consequences.

citation needed.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:43:25pm

re: #128 BlueSpotinAL

The US has huge tracts of land.

I want to… siiiing!

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:43:25pm

re: #176 John Hughes

fucking delusional. It never was, nobody ever thought it was.

I never did care for the phrase.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:47:35pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2021 • 2:48:35pm

re: #94 Dread Pirate Ron

Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed—
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

— Langston Hughes, “Let America Be America Again”

(Just to be clear, I’m responding to Klaas)

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:04:53pm
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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:06:00pm

re: #181 The Ghost of a Flea

(Just to be clear, I’m responding to Klaas)

The Call - Become America

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:06:09pm

“Doublethink is a process of indoctrination whereby the subject is expected to simultaneously accept two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in contravention to one’s own memories or sense of reality”
en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:09:35pm

re: #182 jaunte

that makes no sense

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:12:57pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

I guess the students can talk about the issues raised by the 1619 project and CRT as long as they don’t use those terms and the teacher doesn’t agree with them.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:13:19pm

This is going to cause some lawsuits.

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:14:03pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

that makes no sense

It’s a public expression of self-righteous right-wing denialism about racism: it doesn’t have to…

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:14:45pm

Outlawing ideas doesn’t end well.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:15:16pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:15:20pm

re: #187 jaunte

This is going to cause some lawsuits.

They don’t care. If it sticks, great, they get rid of something that bothers them because it pricks at what’s left of their conscience. If it doesn’t, oh well, it’s great performance art, red meat for the slavering masses who just want to vote for someone who makes them feel less evil.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:24:24pm

Another insurance story:

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:33:14pm
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:34:22pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:37:29pm

re: #192 Sherlock Hound

Another insurance story:

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But at least we don’t have ‘death panels’.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:39:22pm

re: #192 Sherlock Hound

Another insurance story:

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:39:43pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:39:52pm

re: #195 Eventual Carrion

But at least we don’t have ‘death panels’.

“Quality-Adusted-Life-Years” has entered the chat.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:39:53pm

The idea that someone could talk about how poll taxes or literacy tests or funding allocation during the New Deal help sustain racism without announcing race is precisely why they’re suddenly terrified of Critical Race Theory.

Since the Reconstruction era the white supremacists have put an enormous quantity of work to building layers and layers of these structures—racism without the word racism front and center. It’s been around so long that it’s part of the culture: there are a lot of conservatives that say words about how parts of the status quo are FINE, but get angry if you ask for precision, ask what the actual shape of the general statement in application would be.

The current moral panic…like all past moral panics the right has propagated…exists specifically to deny that the status quo…what is and what has been…can produce bad outcomes:

The problem isn’t the established system that just keeps creating certain negative outcomes—abused children, dead black folks, different shades of outcast herded into a demimonde where they are used and brutalized—it’s the dangerous alien forces pointing out the pattern that make things go bad.

The general conservative belief in hierarchy, and the specific hierarchical systems that generations of effort have assembled, cannot acknowledge that the system fails to produce the moral and material outcomes it uses to justify itself. The people and at the top and their facilitators in the middle can’t fail, and can’t be medicroties, so the only alternatives are that the people at the bottom are immoral and incompetent in a way that mandates they be further stripped of franchise or just thrown away, and anyone who questions the frame…the premise of hierarchy…has been corrupted from outside.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:41:02pm

re: #197 Belafon

That’s enormous. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Mike Pence!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:46:39pm

my regional NWS office is holding a weather webinar next Wednesday. It’s free and open to anyone, anywhere. Topic this time is lightning.

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BeachDem  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:52:29pm

re: #194 Belafon

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Politico—seldom correct, always annoying:

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:54:25pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

my regional NWS office is holding a weather webinar next Wednesday. It’s free and open to anyone, anywhere. Topic this time is lightning.

Thunder and lightning.

Very very frightening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 3:55:27pm

re: #203 sagehen

Thunder and lightning.

Very very frightening.

hearing the boom boom boom right now as the storms cross the river

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:03:56pm

re: #202 BeachDem

Politico—seldom correct, always annoying:

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I doubt Biden cared about the cost of the bike or the source of the gift. He doesn’t seem petty.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:03:57pm

LOL WUT TEH AKSHUL…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:06:55pm

This cultural pattern on a national or even global scale ultimately retains the justifications and distortions that abusers use to not-think about the implications of their abuse: People that deny race and class as sources of systemic abuse of power develop comorbid beliefs for why individuals with power are permitted to physically control and use the bodies of others.

There is an irreducible conceit that there are classes of people that are not entitled to their bodies on their own terms. At any given moment a body must function as the powerful, as individuals or a collective, want.

The people that have only a little power but have accepted the premise of the hierarchy exist in a kind of false consciousness imagining that the rules about bodies—who gets fucked, who gets killed, who is allowed to be in pain—are both internally-consistent and stable, and thus that their position as mid-levels goons is safe. But there’s only one rule of bodies—the subordinate must suffer what the superordinate administer—and the distinctions are constantly re-negotiated.

There’s been a bunch of events and movements that jab at this premise by accurately described the arbitrary and pointless suffering of the status quo—MeToo, Black Lives Matter, journalistic coverage of the War on Terror—and the reactionary response to all of them has included the exact same features, because the same core premise…those bodies are ours to be used or destroyed…is being protected.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:10:01pm
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No Malarkey!  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:10:39pm

This guy was next to me while we waited to get seated at Applebee’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:11:59pm

re: #209 No Malarkey!

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This guy was next to me while we waited to get seated at Applebee’s.

and I am positive he isn’t lying about being vaccinated…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:14:27pm

We are dealing with cannibals that want to be told they’re not cannibals, but also that their cannibalism is a sign of their merit and good taste…

…by the people that are in the process of consuming.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:17:14pm

re: #177 John Hughes

citation needed.

One example: nbcchicago.com

Another: nytimes.com

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No Malarkey!  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:18:03pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

and I am positive he isn’t lying about being vaccinated…

He doesn’t have to in Kentucky as of today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:18:53pm

re: #213 No Malarkey!

He doesn’t have to in Kentucky as of today.

I know.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:19:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:20:29pm
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John Hughes  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:22:20pm

re: #192 Sherlock Hound

Is this how car insurance works in America?
What you get in a fender bender do they insist that you try and fix it with a bit of super glue and only go and see a qualified mechanic when the car falls apart?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:23:27pm

re: #211 The Ghost of a Flea

Well, that’s the whimsical way of putting it that has rhetoric flair because people like hyperbole and comedy.

It’s actually this

We are dealing with cannibals wife-beaters that want to be told they’re not cannibals wife—beaters, but also that their cannibalism hitting their family is a sign of their merit and good taste piety and moral rectitude

…by the people spouse and children that are in the process of consuming domestically abusing.

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John Hughes  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:24:35pm

re: #193 Belafon

“Wife” should be in quotes according to the publically known religious positions of the two people in question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:26:23pm

re: #217 John Hughes

Is this how car insurance works in America?
What you get in a fender bender do they insist that you try and fix it with a bit of super glue and only go and see a qualified mechanic when the car falls apart?

they pay 70% and then jack up your premiums.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:27:55pm

Here is a blast from a past G7, where Macron beats TFG at his own handshake game.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:28:05pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

they pay 70% and then jack up your premiums.

that is, 70% of what the adjuster determines how much the damage is.

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John Hughes  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:28:31pm

re: #194 Belafon

Actually to be fair to Alexander there is a reason to not give good prezzies to a US prez, they have to give them up at the end of their term.

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John Hughes  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:30:49pm

re: #198 Sherlock Hound

“Quality-Adusted-Life-Years” has entered the chat.

QALYS are used as a measure of aggregate treatment performance, they are not used for individual cases.

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teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:31:00pm

re: #209 No Malarkey!

I would pull up my tweet, but…

Opening day at Beaver Creek years ago, sat on the bus near a dude with ‘9/11 was an inside job’ and Infowars stickers on his snowboard. I stealthily took a picture and tweeted it with some snark. Well, we get off the bus and a few minutes later there I am sitting with him on the chairlift. Dude was silent the whole lift ride while I commiserated with my friend.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:31:47pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

My son got a 1560 on his SAT. My wife: “so, about those other 40 points….” (She was kidding. She loves to play the “tiger mom” to get a rise out of the kids, but knows that she was a pretty bad student who often skipped school herself.)

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:32:47pm

re: #226 Barefoot Grin

My son got a 1560 on his SAT. My wife: “so, about those other 40 points….” (She was kidding. She loves to play the “tiger mom” to get a rise out of the kids, but knows that she was a pretty bad student how often skipped school herself.)

That’s pretty outstanding.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:34:38pm

Whether it’s a kid in a hoodie dead after being chased by a vigilante with a gun, or an adult coping with the trauma of being abused by an adult and then blamed for that abuse because of “temptation,” or another drone strike…

…there’s a chunk of America that likes standing over a broken body and declaring, ripe with indignation, “Why did you make me do this?”

Because we’ve been trained to find solidarity with the status quo and “trust” that there was a reason, that direct empathy with the suffering is somehow a trick, a mistake. It’s what empires require of their subjects.

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gwangung  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:38:14pm

re: #226 Barefoot Grin

My son got a 1560 on his SAT. My wife: “so, about those other 40 points….” (She was kidding.

Obviously not Asian.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 11, 2021 • 4:43:51pm

re: #229 gwangung

Obviously not Asian.

Only the 1540 part. I think I can account for about 20.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 11, 2021 • 7:55:16pm

re: #217 John Hughes

Is this how car insurance works in America?
What you get in a fender bender do they insist that you try and fix it with a bit of super glue and only go and see a qualified mechanic when the car falls apart?

I don’t dive, but I would not be surprised if a cheap carrier did that.


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