Southern Poverty Law Center: Donors Pumped Millions Into White Nationalist Group

The conservative donor class going all in on white supremacy
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The SPLC’s new report shines a light on the multi-million dollar funding mechanism for hate website VDARE.

Donors gave the prominent white nationalist hate group VDARE $4.3 million in 2019, over eight times more than the year before, according to tax records the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) obtained and shared with Hatewatch.

The large sum represents an unprecedented annual haul for an American white nationalist group and suggests that big-money donors of the conservative movement may be moving their riches to more extreme causes in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s rise.

In an era when white nationalists increasingly embrace decentralized online activism, VDARE stands out for its organizational prowess and links to power. Hatewatch connected former Trump administration officials Stephen Miller and Julia Hahn to its founder, Peter Brimelow (pictured above), in a series of stories. (Miller invited Brimelow to speak at Duke University when he studied there, and Brimelow referred to a writers workshop Hahn attended with him in private emails leaked to Hatewatch.) Celebrity anti-immigrant columnist Ann Coulter contributes to the group’s online publication. Fox News pundit Laura Ingraham retweeted a VDARE post blaming non-white workers for a COVID-19 outbreak last year.

Even with such visible ties to the mainstream right, VDARE embraces an agenda that directly or indirectly cultivates a radical far-right world view in its sympathizers. Brimelow’s group published apologia about both a terrorist’s manifesto in 2019 and the deadly 2017 “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, on its third anniversary. The group promotes the white genocide conspiracy theory, which many view as having inspired far-right terror attacks in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; El Paso, Texas; and Christchurch, New Zealand, in recent years. Unite the Right organizer Jason Kessler published a post on VDARE’s website titled “Yes, Virginia (Dare), There Is Such A Thing As White Genocide,” less than two months before a neo-Nazi murdered antiracist demonstrator Heather Heyer at his event. VDARE has also written in romantic terms about the insurrection waged on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

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DonorsTrust, a right-wing funding vehicle tied to Charles Koch, the Mercer family and other like-minded billionaires, pumped $1.5 million into VDARE in 2019, CMD previously reported. These tax records demonstrate that the dark money flowing from DonorsTrust accounts for only a little more than a third of VDARE’s revenue from that year.

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The big increase in revenue worked out well for Brimelow, whose salary nearly doubled from the year before. According to the documents, Brimelow made about $182,000 in 2018. In 2019, VDARE paid him roughly $345,000. The VDARE Foundation appears prepared to maintain his salary, as the nonprofit ended the year with over $3.5 million in the bank.

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1
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:17:33am

How much of that money was from churches and religious organizations?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:19:47am

I was going to post something about this today but teleskiguy beat me to it, so he gets a promotion.

(Note: I switched out the image for one in my library, because I don’t want to get in trouble with Getty.)

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:21:43am

re: #282 The Ghost of a Flea

Y’all.
I realize I’m going at this real hard, but..this thing with presenting Trump as subbing to Putin is not a good look because it’s just the liberal version of nationalism, and nationalism is not only generally horseshit, but specifically the horseshit that gets the USA into trouble over and over.
Like, of course a bunch of American reactionaries defer to Putin…he’s the localized strain of American kleptocracy and authoritarianism, run rampant in a country with no immune system. You literally have the line of attribution backwards…Putin is doing what white American dudes used to do everywhere—steal shit and kill people because they’re inconvenient; blur nation, faith, and personal gain into a slurry—while using identical justifications give or take a few search/replace terms. Trump has no filter and a more basic, primal love of cruelty, but he’s not an exception within his time or across time.
I hammer on this because it’s worse than “these guys love a foreign dictator”…you’re doing that thing where you imagine that the problem is some kind of alien influence, and it’s the exact opposite: the people that used to destroy other places and people have realized that, yeah, they actually can shit where they eat. The cannibals are no longer willing to commute for a meal, and the perverts have realized that your suffering is actually more tangible than the suffering of some random brown person around the Equator.
And Putin is just another case of the short term money coming back to fuck us. Kind of like China…the “Communist” country we offshored all of our production to because, putatively, that would result in capitalism and therefore democracy, but instead resulted in a bigger authoritarian state playing with ethnic nationalism and the obliteration of manufacturing (but also helped murder retail).
I talk about this over and over because there’s no influence to purge, and the status quo has always involved somebody getting screwed over…it just wasn’t local. Now it’s local…the Dracula Factory finally got the paperwork in and can sell off its own floor rather than package all models for export.

I’m going to have to disagree. Expecting our leaders to not bow to the leader of another country is not nationalism, it’s expecting our leaders to govern our country in its own interests. And that’s not nationalism. Sometimes our interests are served by paying attention to other leaders. What Trump did is not that. His attempt to destroy NATO was not in our interests. His turning our back on the Kurds was not in our interests.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:22:15am

And now the Catholic Bishops are moving to deny communion to Joe Biden…

washingtonpost.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:25:35am
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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:25:49am

Thanks Gov. Abbott!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:25:51am

re: #4 JOE 🥓

And now the Catholic Bishops are moving to deny communion to Joe Biden…

washingtonpost.com

I was always taught communion was between you and God.

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William Lewis  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:27:06am

re: #4 JOE 🥓

And now the Catholic Bishops are moving to deny communion to Joe Biden…

washingtonpost.com

It will be interesting to see their reaction to being disciplined for going against direct orders from Rome. Francis remains an absolute dictator of their government and he’s told them not to do that because he has other higher priorities than their infatuation with being anti-abortion.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:28:20am
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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:30:16am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

The Catholic Bishops are making it clear that they march lockstep with the Republican Party just like every other Xtian Pulpit Pimps!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:30:58am

From the previous thread:

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ted Cruz says critical race theory “is every bit as racist as the Klan in white sheets,” at Faith and Freedom Coalition.

Has he even bothered to read up on CRT?

I am sure he has no idea of what it is other than to cite it as another example of what the Left is trying to foist on America to divide and conquer.

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As a lawyer, I’m sure he knows exactly what it is, and is lying because he is a conservative. He lies to gain and maintain power with the Republican base, who do not know what anything is except what they are told to think or believe.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:31:25am

re: #8 William Lewis

It will be interesting to see their reaction to being disciplined for going against direct orders from Rome. Francis remains an absolute dictator of their government and he’s told them not to do that because he has other higher priorities than their infatuation with being anti-abortion.

The Cult Of The Fetus does not care what the “Marxist” Pope says.

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William Lewis  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:31:59am

Vatican Warns U.S. Bishops: Don’t Deny Biden Communion Over Abortion

June 14, 2021
ROME — The Vatican has warned conservative American bishops to hit the brakes on their push to deny communion to politicians supportive of abortion rights — including President Biden, a faithful churchgoer and the first Roman Catholic to occupy the Oval Office in 60 years.

But despite the remarkably public stop sign from Rome, the American bishops are pressing ahead anyway and are expected to force a debate on the communion issue at a remote meeting that starts on Wednesday.

Some leading bishops, whose priorities clearly aligned with former President Donald J. Trump, now want to reassert the centrality of opposition to abortion in the Catholic faith and lay down a hard line — especially with a liberal Catholic in the Oval Office.

The vote threatens to shatter the facade of unity with Rome, highlight the political polarization within the American church and set what church historians consider a dangerous precedent for bishops’ conferences across the globe.

“The concern in the Vatican,” said Antonio Spadaro, a Jesuit priest and close ally of Francis “is not to use access to the Eucharist as a political weapon.”

Pope Francis, who has explicitly identified the United States as the source of opposition to his pontificate, preached this month that communion “is not the reward of saints, but the bread of sinners.” His top doctrinal official, Cardinal Luis Ladaria, wrote a letter to the American bishops, warning them that the vote could “become a source of discord rather than unity within the episcopate and the larger church in the United States.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:32:02am

re: #12 JOE 🥓

Upding for “cult of the Fetus”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:32:07am

re: #289 JOE 🥓

Wow!

The Republican National Committee, er, Catholic Bishops are now moving to deny communion to Joe Biden and any other politician who supports abortion rights.

washingtonpost.com

If you are a Catholic, your donations support this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:32:38am

re: #8 William Lewis

It will be interesting to see their reaction to being disciplined for going against direct orders from Rome. Francis remains an absolute dictator of their government and he’s told them not to do that because he has other higher priorities than their infatuation with being anti-abortion.

There is a brouhaha in Germany involving a Bishop offering his retirement and the Vatican refusing to accept it.

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William Lewis  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:33:20am

re: #12 JOE 🥓

The Cult Of The Fetus does not care what the “Marxist” Pope says.

When he “retires” them to a monastery and appoints a replacement, they might find themselves in a bit of a spot.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:33:48am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

I didn’t go to Catholic schools. My mom sent my older brother to one for one year, and said, ‘No more of that.’ Saturday CCD was what I got. My mom sent a question with me once: ‘What about the dinosaurs?’ My mom was and is a trouble maker.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:35:24am

re: #17 William Lewis

When he “retires” them to a monastery and appoints a replacement, they might find themselves in a bit of a spot.

I doubt it will happen. There is a significant block of Conservative Catholics who hate that Marxist Pope so much that they will split off and put the Koch puppet Dolan on the throne. Remember that the Kochs financed Dolan’s campaign to succeed Benedict.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:36:04am
“Our credibility is on the line. … The eyes of the whole country are on us. If we don’t act courageously, clearly and convincingly on this core Catholic value, how can we expect to be taken seriously on another matter?” asked San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone. He was among the members who urged the creation of the document, an idea that grew from Biden’s election in November and concern about the image of him receiving Communion at Mass each week.

I don’t take you seriously. I take you as bigots and child rape supporters, and have a dim view of anyone’s morals who attends your churches or gives you money.

Your evil empire cannot be reformed, it is corrupt to the core.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:36:45am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t take you seriously. I take you as bigots and child rape supporters, and have a dim view of anyone’s morals who attends your churches or gives you money.

Your evil empire cannot be reformed, it is corrupt to the core.

I’m interested to know what their rationale is for doing this now, when he’s been who he is for decades.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:37:13am

re: #18 wrenchwench

My Catholic upbringing and all the Campus Crusade for Christ yahoos really put me off Christianity for a long time.

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William Lewis  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:37:39am

re: #19 JOE 🥓

I doubt it will happen. There is a significant block of Conservative Catholics who hate that Marxist Pope so much that they will split off and put the Koch puppet Dolan on the throne. Remember that the Kochs financed Dolan’s campaign to succeed Benedict.

There have been Anti-Popes historically. They always lose in the long run and the game Francis plays looks at very long time frames. A schism would be beneficial to Rome as it would allow them to paint the conservatives as unrepentant sinners.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:40:30am

re: #21 Dopamine Fish

I’m interested to know what their rationale is for doing this now, when he’s been who he is for decades.

Call it the “Trump Effect”.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:41:22am

re: #21 Dopamine Fish

I’m interested to know what their rationale is for doing this now, when he’s been who he is for decades.

As I posted in the previous thread and Anymouse posted here every catholic bishop marches lock step with the Republican Party. Republicans will stop at nothing to remove Joe from office and they won’t rest until Trump is put back on the throne.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:42:08am

re: #21 Dopamine Fish

I’m interested to know what their rationale is for doing this now, when he’s been who he is for decades.

According to the Washington Post article, they have been debating the issue for decades. (Biden is not the only target here.)

They are also considering at the same time anyone who supports LGBT+ rights, also a violation of Catholic teaching.

This won’t end with a ban on the Eucharist for women’s health support. The Church is trying to reimpose their mediæval control of government.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:42:30am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t take you seriously. I take you as bigots and child rape supporters, and have a dim view of anyone’s morals who attends your churches or gives you money.

Your evil empire cannot be reformed, it is corrupt to the core.

I pretty much agree with you, but this part

have a dim view of anyone’s morals who attends your churches

doesn’t allow much room for being a human born into circumstances not of one’s own making. Or otherwise falling into a situation (other than born-into). People need to take resposibility at some point, but nobody is teaching them how, in most cases. Grifters are teaching them how, in many cases.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:43:19am

There was a time when the Catholic Church was less extreme on social issues than the Calvinists and Protestants, but those days are LONG gone.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:45:05am

As someone who has faced harassment, bullying and discrimination from catholics all my life I have no love for that cult just as I have no love for other Xtian scams.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:45:16am

re: #4 JOE 🥓

And now the Catholic Bishops are moving to deny communion to Joe Biden…

washingtonpost.com

The article says that the Washington D.C
churches will not.

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:45:31am

Scalise again criticizes the socialist empires of New York and California.

Scalise represents Louisiana.

Scalise tries to reference “freedom” in Florida and Texas.

This doesn’t end well for Scalise on the facts or the logic.

Florida and Texas selling point is climate, and even then that doesn’t work in their favor year round. Texas has power issues winter and summer. Florida is unbearably hot in the summer, which is why people come down there in the winter and flee in the summer for nicer climes.

Low taxes? When you have high user taxes and regressive taxes as the basis of your taxing scheme, you’re pushing the burdens on those least able to endure them while the rich make out like bandits.

Even in Wallethub’s latest ranking of best states to live in FL and TX fare poorly.

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Jay C  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:45:35am

re: #13 William Lewis

Vatican Warns U.S. Bishops: Don’t Deny Biden Communion Over Abortion

Nut graf:

“The concern in the Vatican,” said Antonio Spadaro, a Jesuit priest and close ally of Francis “is not to use access to the Eucharist as a political weapon.”

Of course, what they’re eliding here is the good-old-fashioned Catholic Church doctrine that if access to the Sacraments IS used as a “political weapon” it’s damn well going to be the Church and the Pope wielding it: not some cabal of national bishops obsessed with pushing their own political agendas…..

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:46:25am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If you are a Catholic, your donations support this.

I haven’t been Catholic for 44 years, which is nice. I got out before even being aware of the molestation so don’t have that on my conscience.

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:46:46am

Only the best people:

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:47:16am

re: #30 No Malarkey!

The article says that the Washington D.C
churches will not.

for now…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:47:40am

re: #27 wrenchwench

I pretty much agree with you, but this part

doesn’t allow much room for being a human born into circumstances not of one’s own making. Or otherwise falling into a situation (other than born-into). People need to take resposibility at some point, but nobody is teaching them how, in most cases. Grifters are teaching them how, in many cases.

They can leave the church when they are able to do so.

I don’t give a pass to people who are born into the circumstances of racism who do not leave that behind when they are able.

In the days of the Internet, there are countless resources for people to find non-racist or non-paedophile information.

In the case of a hypothetical Catholic adult who had no access to such information, that might be one thing.

In the case of every Catholic with access to the Internet, they might oppose child rape, but they still support it with their money or time. That is immoral.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:48:22am

re: #35 JOE 🥓

for now…

I don’t think Joe is going to change his positions either way. Let them piss in the wind.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:50:51am

This is a national disgrace.

The US is one of relatively few countries that allow non-citizens to join their armed forces. It is a very old tradition in the US military and has never NOT been policy. A few years ago, I happened to mention to a wingnut I knew (a non-veteran ammosexual) that there were many non-citizens in the US armed forces. He was enraged: “WHEN THE HELL DID OBAMA START ALLOWING THAT?” he demanded. I patiently explained that every President since George Washington has “allowed” it. He was skeptical. I said, “Ok, even if you don’t jack about real history, you have surely seen some John Ford movies. All those Irish sergeants are stock characters for a reason.”

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sagehen  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:50:55am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

According to the Washington Post article, they have been debating the issue for decades. (Biden is not the only target here.)

They are also considering at the same time anyone who supports LGBT+ rights, also a violation of Catholic teaching.

This won’t end with a ban on the Eucharist for women’s health support. The Church is trying to reimpose their mediæval control of government.

It’s only an American thing.

Italy, Spain and Ireland are 90+ percent Catholic, but their legalization of abortion and LGBT rights hasn’t resulted in any similar move there.

Israel has the most permissive abortion and gay policies within 1000 miles, and self-identified Christians have kept their mouths shut about that too.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:51:33am

re: #31 lawhawk

Scalise again criticizes the socialist empires of New York and California.

Scalise represents Louisiana.

Scalise tries to reference “freedom” in Florida and Texas.

This doesn’t end well for Scalise on the facts or the logic.

Florida and Texas selling point is climate, and even then that doesn’t work in their favor year round. Texas has power issues winter and summer. Florida is unbearably hot in the summer, which is why people come down there in the winter and flee in the summer for nicer climes.

Low taxes? When you have high user taxes and regressive taxes as the basis of your taxing scheme, you’re pushing the burdens on those least able to endure them while the rich make out like bandits.

Even in Wallethub’s latest ranking of best states to live in FL and TX fare poorly.

They don’t care what’s real. They talk about mainstream media not being able to go against “the narrative,” meaning reality, while Republicans can’t go against what propagandists tell an audience they have zero respect for.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:52:21am

re: #33 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I haven’t been Catholic for 44 years, which is nice. I got out before even being aware of the molestation so don’t have that on my conscience.

Same here. I had already seen through the church’s power and control mechanisms long before the abuse of children was known. But it certainly didn’t surprise me when it started to come out.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:53:35am

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:53:44am

re: #39 sagehen

It’s only an American thing.

Italy, Spain and Ireland are 90+ percent Catholic, but their legalization of abortion and LGBT rights hasn’t resulted in any similar move there.

Israel has the most permissive abortion and gay policies within 1000 miles, and self-identified Christians have kept their mouths shut about that too.

The American-right is held together by their urge to make women property of the state. Until recently their old approach, racism, wasn’t acceptable anymore, so they do this.
Right-wing Catholics in other nations may still be able to rely on open racism.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:53:48am

Testing.

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JC1  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:55:35am

re: #18 wrenchwench

I didn’t go to Catholic schools. My mom sent my older brother to one for one year, and said, ‘No more of that.’ Saturday CCD was what I got. My mom sent a question with me once: ‘What about the dinosaurs?’ My mom was and is a trouble maker.

Catholic church accepts evolution; they’re not young earth creationists.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:56:24am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They can leave the church when they are able to do so.

I don’t give a pass to people who are born into the circumstances of racism who do not leave that behind when they are able.

In the days of the Internet, there are countless resources for people to find non-racist or non-paedophile information.

In the case of a hypothetical Catholic adult who had no access to such information, that might be one thing.

In the case of every Catholic with access to the Internet, they might oppose child rape, but they still support it with their money or time. That is immoral.

I think I’m hanging out (mentally) in the pre-internet age, with a bunch of old people. But I’m finding some accord with a new co-worker who just turned 18. There’s hope for me yet…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:56:30am

If CA and NY seceded, the U.S. Economy would promptly nosedive.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:56:38am

re: #45 JC1

Catholic church accepts evolution; they’re not young earth creationists.

Oh not all do. I have Catholic relatives who reject evolution.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:57:26am

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This is a national disgrace.

[Embedded content]

The US is one of relatively few countries that allow non-citizens to join their armed forces. It is a very old tradition in the US military and has never NOT been policy. A few years ago, I happened to mention to a wingnut I knew (a non-veteran ammosexual) that there were many non-citizens in the US armed forces. He was enraged: “WHEN THE HELL DID OBAMA START ALLOWING THAT?” he demanded. I patiently explained that every President since George Washington has “allowed” it. He was skeptical. I said, “Ok, even if you don’t jack about real history, you have surely seen some John Ford movies. All those Irish sergeants are stock characters for a reason.”

I don’t know
Were watching Borgen and all those Danes have an array of UK accents
None Irish though

//

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sagehen  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:58:18am

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

If CA and NY seceded, the U.S. Economy would promptly nosedive.

And Cali would be a G-7 nation.

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JC1  Jun 18, 2021 • 10:58:52am

re: #31 lawhawk

Scalise again criticizes the socialist empires of New York and California.

Scalise represents Louisiana.

Scalise tries to reference “freedom” in Florida and Texas.

This doesn’t end well for Scalise on the facts or the logic.

[Embedded content]

Florida and Texas selling point is climate, and even then that doesn’t work in their favor year round. Texas has power issues winter and summer. Florida is unbearably hot in the summer, which is why people come down there in the winter and flee in the summer for nicer climes.

Low taxes? When you have high user taxes and regressive taxes as the basis of your taxing scheme, you’re pushing the burdens on those least able to endure them while the rich make out like bandits.

Even in Wallethub’s latest ranking of best states to live in FL and TX fare poorly.

If low taxes mattered all that much, Nevada, Alaska, and Puerto Rico would be crushing it.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:00:07am

re: #45 JC1

Catholic church accepts evolution; they’re not young earth creationists.

The Vatican accepted it, but Conservative Catholics are just as regressive as their Protestants are.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:01:44am

Texas and Florida also have hurricanes.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:03:19am

re: #45 JC1

Catholic church accepts evolution; they’re not young earth creationists.

Officially the church accepts evolution, but there are many US Catholics (including a lot of these bishops) who are hard core creationists.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:06:30am

I always have to zip my lip when I see people on Twitter gushing about Taylor Swift.

Not a fan. At all.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:06:52am

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Texas and Florida also have hurricanes.

And when hurricanes strike those states along with Louisiana they sure do love all that socialist help from FEMA..the same FEMA they insist are setting up “concentration camps to imprison conservatives”!

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Jay C  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:06:52am

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

If CA and NY seceded, the U.S. Economy would promptly nosedive.

I read somewhere that California’s GDP (a recent figure, even allowing for COVID disruptions) would, if CA were an independent country, make it the fifth-largest economy on the planet.’
Scarcely the definition of “failure”….

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JC1  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:07:11am

re: #48 JOE 🥓

Oh not all do. I have Catholic relatives who reject evolution.

I should have said that the official Catholic dogma is that evolution is happening and earth is billions of years old. Of course I would wager that many/most Catholics don’t know much about the official dogma. How many realize that the bread wafers and wine become the literal, not figurative, body and blood of Christ? Cannibals, each and every last one of them.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:07:56am

re: #57 Jay C

I read somewhere that California’s GDP (a recent figure, even allowing for COVID disruptions) would, if CA were an independent country, make it the fifth-largest economy on the planet.’
Scarcely the definition of “failure”….

Big doesn’t mean better. //

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:09:13am

Oh hey! A byline! Of a page I posted at like two in the morning.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:09:20am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:09:38am
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Dopamine Fish  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:09:56am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Be nice to Ben of the Corn. He’s the smartest conservative they can find.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:10:11am

For reference, Ben’s dumbass tweet.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:11:53am

re: #3 Belafon

I’m going to have to disagree. Expecting our leaders to not bow to the leader of another country is not nationalism, it’s expecting our leaders to govern our country in its own interests. And that’s not nationalism. Sometimes our interests are served by paying attention to other leaders. What Trump did is not that. His attempt to destroy NATO was not in our interests. His turning our back on the Kurds was not in our interests.

My point was that the entire paradigm of “Trump bowed to a foreign leader” isn’t productive, and that coding a much larger problem as “Trump bowed to a foreign leader” is nationalism because it makes a world-system problem—authoritarians all back each other, and the USA (along with the post-imperial nations of Europe) has been cool with authoritarians and their activities as long as there was money in it—into something about dual nations in opposition. And presenting all of the above as subbing—passive Orange Man gets fucked by dominant Russian Man—is a pre-established ideoform that precisely conveys that.

And, yeah, it really bugs me because (1) it belies that Trump is a sadist that openly admires Putin because he hurts people, (2) his followers grok what’s he doing because they’re also down with that, (3) this is a pre-existing thing we do with strongmen all the time. Correcting the grammar of an active serial killer that writes “I’m going to fuck you’re corpse” on the wall in blood isn’t really much of a counting coup.

Trump is an outlier; he’s the first President wiling to visibly get under another leader because he’s just uninterested in the standard cultural presentation of power, and only interested in his own appetites…which is fine for a lot of people because they also believe that fawning is an appropriate way to react to people with more license and power. Like, there is a chunk of Americans that’s fine with Trump’s behavior because it mirrors their own deference to power—cops, celebrities, assholes—because there’s an inegalitarian part to our culture. They exist whether the President does the thing or not.

But I don’t care about optics. America doesn’t have problems because we’re perceived as weak or our leaders are perceived as weak, we have problems because we have real weakness and have a lot of actually-weak leaders who have their position only because they do theater good enough. Better theater does not solve the long term problem that our weakness is precisely because we keep conceptualizeding of strength as…the kind of shit that leads to backing Saddam Hussein, and being friends with Saudi Arabia, and setting up a bunch of South American dictators. Like…what’s new or different about what Trump does?

The very idea that there is something in Russia that can be defeated that will improve America is empty, because at this point everyone has the same problem—an international shift towards authoritarian oligarchy—that the US helped into existence by having a foreign policy that elevated oligarchs in developing nations and wannabe oligarchs in internal politics. The call is coming from inside the house.

Trump didn’t doing very much that’s new, it was reprehensible in manner consistent with and compounding of previous reprehensible behavior. Him eroding NATO isn’t appreciably different than the US slowly hamstringing the UN—and teaming up with China to do it. We’re on round 2—or round 3?— of promising the Kurds stuff and then betraying them. We previously haven’t publically kissed up to dictators and tyrants like Trump does Putin…we just provided the logistical basis for their rule and the ideological basis for the actions (anti-communism and anti-terrorism).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:12:16am

So at what point does Israel resort to force to drag Bibi out of there?

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:12:49am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

When crime is outlawed only criminals will do crime.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:13:23am

Ken Cuccinelli, who served as Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security under Trump, said that a recent job opportunity slipped through his fingers because they “decided they didn’t want Trump people.”

“It was just flat out—you can call it Trump discrimination,” he said.

Good for you Mr. Bedroom Snooper.

Former Attorney General William Barr, former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, former U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, and former White House counsel Pat Cipollone are among those who still haven’t found full time jobs.

Gee, that’s a shame!!!!

bloomberg.com

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:14:29am

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

So at what point does Israel resort to force to drag Bibi out of there?

Nothing would give Hagee more joy than finishing what Hitler started.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:16:12am

re: #68 JOE 🥓

“It was just flat out—you can call it Trump discrimination,” he said.

He fucked around. He’s finding out. There are consequences for being a part of the most toxic, vile, disgusting, and outright evil administration in American history, filled with liars, cheats, yes-men, toadies, bullies, murderers, and Nazis.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:19:56am

To be fair, Ken Cuccinelli was a gross far right clown long before Trump came on the scene.

This is the idiot who wanted to put clothes on a statue of Lady Liberty so he wouldn’t see the statue’s breasts. He’s not a well man.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:19:56am

Before Texas filed a lawsuit that asked the Supreme Court to block President Biden’s win in four battleground states, a draft of the petition was circulated to the Louisiana attorney general’s office.

The template then was very similar to what was eventually filed by Texas on Dec. 8. Much of the same language proposed in the draft lawsuit made it into the final Texas complaint, and certain sections of the two versions are almost word-for-word the same. But there was one main difference. It was written to be filed by Louisiana, as well as some yet-to-be-determined states, listed as states “A” and “B.” The draft complaint left template language for the future plaintiff state for fill in its lawyer and contact info. It also targeted six battleground states that went for Biden, while the final Texas version only sued four.

As the New York Times previously reported, a group of lawyers seeking to reverse Trump’s loss had turned to Louisiana in late November to bring a case before the Supreme Court, after they had initially been rebuffed by the Texas attorney general’s office. The previously-unreleased draft of the lawsuit they floated to Louisiana’s attorney general was recently obtained by TPM, via a public records request filed by the left-leaning watchdog group American Oversight. Internal communications between the Louisiana office and the Trump-aligned lawyers, which included a former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, were also obtained in American Oversight’s request and shared with TPM.

They show how Kobach repeatedly pestered Attorney General Jeff Landry’s office and what materials were used to pitch Landry on bringing the lawsuit. Much of the content of the emails is redacted. But, as the New York Times reported, the outreach to Attorney General Landry was part of a larger campaign that targeted Republican attorneys general who had previously aligned themselves with Trump. Landry was one of nine attorneys general part of a group called Lawyers for Trump, and at the time also led the Republican Attorneys General Association.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:20:40am

Not sure how reliable the source is, but per the Times of Israel:

Despite ongoing criticism, opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu won’t be vacating the official prime minister’s residence in Jerusalem for at least several more weeks, sources involved in the matter said on Friday.

At the official residence, the Netanyahus are packing up and preparing to move to their private Caesarea residence, but this may take several weeks, the sources said.

They said that the family will only spend a number of months in Caesarea, while an apartment they own on the capital’s Azza Street is brought up to security standards. Once ready, the Netanyahus will move in there.

Netannyahu is also a part-owner of his late father’s home on Haportzim St. in the city, but apparently will not be moving into it with his family.

For the time being, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who was sworn in on Sunday, apparently does not plan to move with his family from his Ra’anana home to the official residence.

A group that led anti-Netanyahu protests over the past year sent a letter to the Prime Minister’s Office on Tuesday threatening to petition the High Court of Justice if Netanyahu does not vacate the residence by June 27.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:22:20am

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Just a reminder of what a creep Kookynelly is!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:22:23am

I’m blaming COVID for my inability to do subject/verb agreement.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:26:06am

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Shut off the power, the water, and post guards at the door.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:26:46am

re: #72 JOE 🥓

Kris Kobach, he of the “the court ordered remedial classes as sanctions” persuasion? If you’re signing on to any lawsuit that has his name anywhere within about 150 miles of it, you’ve already lost.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:28:24am
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sagehen  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:29:50am

re: #68 JOE 🥓

Ken Cuccinelli, who served as Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security under Trump, said that a recent job opportunity slipped through his fingers because they “decided they didn’t want Trump people.”

“It was just flat out—you can call it Trump discrimination,” he said.

Good for you Mr. Bedroom Snooper.

Former Attorney General William Barr, former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, former U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, and former White House counsel Pat Cipollone are among those who still haven’t found full time jobs.

Gee, that’s a shame!!!!

bloomberg.com

Alberto Gonzalez had a similar problem; after leaving his position as GWB’s AG, he spent a year and a half looking for work with a law firm. Nobody wanted him on their letterhead. He ended up getting a part-time teaching gig at a junior college.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:32:02am
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:33:10am

re: #65 The Ghost of a Flea

OK, but the reason the rest I am glad to be opposing Putin is he still has the Cold View of the world that as long as the US exists it’s bad for Russia. Even China, for all their actions, would not like a sudden collapse of the US. Prior to Trump, our treatment of him and Russia had to do with their attacks on the US and other countries, whether physical or, in our case, through other means. I’m not sure why it’s a bad thing to think those should be stopped.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:35:07am

I’ve got to add that I also really don’t like the use of homoeroticism as an element of satire in general, and in this case it deeply bugs me.

Like…one of these guys is a rapist who probably ran a trafficking ring through a modeling firm and the other one runs a gangster state that feeds Russian women to escort services over the entire continent of Asia while also being a stern social conservative.

Offloading that they’re monsters-in-camaraderie into man-on-man fucking is tepid mockery but also a kind of unintended disavowal of the very things that they do that make them the same kind of terrible person.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:35:16am

re: #50 sagehen

And Cali would be a G-7 nation.

Sorry Boris Johnson, y’all have to leave the G-7. There’s a new kid in town.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:36:59am

re: #60 teleskiguy

Oh hey! A byline! Of a page I posted at like two in the morning.

Congradumalashuns, you have arrived.

I will never get a byline here; I will languish in the pool of LGF obscurity forever. /s

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:38:26am

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t like the sexual implications, but I consider ass kissing to be just a slightly worse form of ring kissing.

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Jay C  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:38:33am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sorry Boris Johnson, y’all have to leave the G-7. There’s a new kid in town.

Heh.
A new definition of “Brexit”….??

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:39:59am

re: #50 sagehen

And Cali would be a G-7 nation.

So too would NY. Bigger than Canada. Texas would be bigger than NY or Canada.

Russia is smaller than Canada.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:44:25am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I will never get a byline here

Never say never. Though it is rare. This is my ninth byline.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:45:26am

re: #85 Belafon

I don’t like the sexual implications, but I consider ass kissing to be just a slightly worse form of ring kissing.

Eh.

I’m a touch hyperbolic right now, so my language choices are probably conveying an intensity that isn’t really a hard criticism of anyone on the board, but an intense engagement with how urgent this stuff feels inside me that does lead to me making admonitions because I see a smaller patterns and match to a larger pattern.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:45:28am

re: #71 Charles Johnson

To be fair, Ken Cuccinelli was a gross far right clown long before Trump came on the scene.

This is the idiot who wanted to put clothes on a statue of Lady Liberty so he wouldn’t see the statue’s breasts. He’s not a well man.

Shades of John Ashcroft, who did the same thing.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:45:48am

Hate to link Fox, but it is nice that the segment of their audience that doesn’t just watch the white nationalist shows is exposed to this.

Orgy, underage girls, sex games and extortion: Inside the allegations surrounding Rep. Matt Gaetz (Fox News)

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Mike Lamb  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:45:55am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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I hereby and forthwith ban CRIME!

Done and dusted. We in utopia yet?

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A Mom Anon  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:46:15am

My mom was raised super duper ultra Catholic. By a mom who was an alcoholic, and just really mean. My mom’s dad was a lot less of an ass, but he never really stood up to grandma. Mom did leave the church, over the way she was treated when she was pregnant with me and after I was born. But the damage was done and it set her up to become one of those End Times Christians. Holier than thou, willing to destroy the family in the name of God.

When my grandmother found out my mom was pregnant, she disowned her, kicked her out on the street. My dad was at Ft. Bragg at the time and my dad’s parents took mom in. On the day I was born grandma came to the hospital, drunk, and burst into my mom’s room, screaming and cursing at her for being a whore with a bastard child and the both of us were doomed to roast in hell for all eternity.

There is a pic of my mom the day she brought me home from the hospital. I am laying across her lap and she’s not even looking at me or touching me. She never fed or picked me up til I was nearly two months old and that’s because the doctor told my dad’s parents to stop coddling her and basically force her to take care of me. To this day, I am the outcast in the family. I blame the abusive form of religion my grandmother practiced. The same was likely done to her. I was tossed aside like garbage at 17, because I smoked weed and managed to get in trouble with the cops at age 15. Since I didn’t conform enough, and rebelled because I was not even allowed to go to the bathroom with the door closed. They removed the door to my room and the bathroom us kids used. I was treated like I was diseased. And yet no one gets why I don’t go to church and refused to let my kids get messed up by that shit. The world is mean enough, why add more to it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:47:42am

re: #91 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’m surprised that smarmy fucker hasn’t been arrested yet.

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mmmirele  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:48:01am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If you are a Catholic, your donations support this.

Yeah, this kind of nonsense is why my formerly very devout (but of the Dorothy Day/Thomas Merton type of Catholic) ex-boyfriend first stopped giving to the parish, then to any Catholic charities, then cut back his attendance at mass and now, finally, is an adult Sunday school teacher at an affirming Methodist church. As for where his money now goes? Well, it could include giving $3,000 to a cat rescue organization.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:51:03am

re: #93 A Mom Anon

I am so sorry those sorts of things happened to you growing up.

There are plenty of people here who would be your substitute family, Mom.

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steve_davis  Jun 18, 2021 • 11:57:08am

re: #45 JC1

Catholic church accepts evolution; they’re not young earth creationists.

yeah, the catholic church has been fine with evolution since at least vatican ii. their only requirement in the interests of dogma is that evolution not be taught in a way that suggests man does not have a special relationship with his creator, which he does: his creator tried to kill him off, had second thoughts about it, and probably has some days when he listens to Steve Scalise where he really wonders about that decision.

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mmmirele  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:01:31pm

re: #45 JC1

Catholic church accepts evolution; they’re not young earth creationists.

Yeah, here’s a story about that. My ex-bf had signed up to mentor a kid whose parent was in the Arizona prison system. However, that came to a screeching halt when he was asked to sign a document saying that he believed in young earth creationism. It turned out that the program was being run by “MentorKids USA,” and in order to participate, you had to sign off on their doctrinal statement. My ex-bf was all, “I can’t sign this, we’re Catholic, we’re not young earth creationists!” The coordinator, who was Catholic, just told him to sign it, but he couldn’t.

He did tell me about it though. I squirreled it away in my head, and when I heard that the Freedom From Religion Foundation was suing over the “MentorKids USA” program, I sent an email to them explaining that the statement of faith was so limited that it excluded Catholics. I said that while my bf was unwilling to be a part of any lawsuit, they could likely use this information in discovery to get the statement of faith. Which they did. Bf was annoyed with me, but hey, it worked—they got the statement of faith and a judge ruled back in 2005 that “MentorKids USA” should not receive federal funds in part because of the statement of faith.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:01:34pm

Not going to happen.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:03:06pm

Man-eating geodes dug up. It begins.

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steve_davis  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:03:44pm

re: #58 JC1

I should have said that the official Catholic dogma is that evolution is happening and earth is billions of years old. Of course I would wager that many/most Catholics don’t know much about the official dogma. How many realize that the bread wafers and wine become the literal, not figurative, body and blood of Christ? Cannibals, each and every last one of them.

they all went through catechism. they all understand it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:05:52pm

Yesterday Rebecca Shoenkopf wrote a righteous rant against her representative.

Today Wonkette has a list of the runners-up on Juneteenth bad takes.

Holiday Celebrating End Of Slavery Very Divisive, Say Assholes

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:09:23pm

re: #101 steve_davis

they all went through catechism. they all understand it.

That creepiness is one of the reasons I was able to get free from religion. That and all the other unsupportable supernatural claims.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:09:44pm

It’s Umphrey’s Red Rocks weekend! It was cancelled last year. Umphrey’s McGee are the last act with restricted capacity limits in the amphitheatre at 6,300 (the joint holds 9,545). Starting on Monday The City and County of Denver is allowing full capacity shows.

It’s been 535 days since I’ve seen Umphrey’s McGee in concert, the longest stretch in 16 years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:10:24pm

How long before some wingnut group tries to bring a court case to try to abolish Juneteenth as a federal holiday?

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William Lewis  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:10:40pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I always have to zip my lip when I see people on Twitter gushing about Taylor Swift.

Not a fan. At all.

Heh. Not as bad as some but…

My two weak spots are Miley Cyrus and Pink.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:11:39pm

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

Not sure how reliable the source is, but per the Times of Israel:

Despite ongoing criticism, opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu won’t be vacating the official prime minister’s residence in Jerusalem for at least several more weeks, sources involved in the matter said on Friday.

At the official residence, the Netanyahus are packing up and preparing to move to their private Caesarea residence, but this may take several weeks, the sources said.

They said that the family will only spend a number of months in Caesarea, while an apartment they own on the capital’s Azza Street is brought up to security standards. Once ready, the Netanyahus will move in there.

Netannyahu is also a part-owner of his late father’s home on Haportzim St. in the city, but apparently will not be moving into it with his family.

For the time being, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who was sworn in on Sunday, apparently does not plan to move with his family from his Ra’anana home to the official residence.

A group that led anti-Netanyahu protests over the past year sent a letter to the Prime Minister’s Office on Tuesday threatening to petition the High Court of Justice if Netanyahu does not vacate the residence by June 27.

heh
we can do it in 4 hours and we’re a much bigger country //

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:12:12pm

re: #106 William Lewis

My two weak spots are Miley Cyrus and Pink.

I have a soft spot for Lady Gaga.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:14:08pm

re: #4 JOE 🥓

And now the Catholic Bishops are moving to deny communion to Joe Biden…

washingtonpost.com

Pres. Joe was asked about this in his presser this afternoon. His answer was “ I consider this a private matter, and I can assure you nothing will happen.” He then dropped the mike and walked off the Dias.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:14:57pm

PSA: DO NOT TRUST ANY OL’ BACKROAD IN THE MOUNTAINS ON GOOGLE MAPS

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:16:42pm

It would be hilarious if the Pope showed up and gave communion to Biden himself. And then fired the Cardinals.

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:17:13pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:17:23pm

re: #99 jaunte

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Not going to happen.

trump
divorce
plus the actual adultery
anyone?
no?
bearing false witness; unequivocally?
what about stealing or coveting?

really? no one?

says it all

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A Mom Anon  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:18:35pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I know, that’s a big thing about LGF. We’re good people who care for each other. I am so grateful for all of you.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:19:54pm

re: #112 lawhawk

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he can stay but he should have to pay - for the sodas, the food, the rent, everything
he’s not the PM
they are not his perks

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:22:56pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Congradumalashuns, you have arrived.

I will never get a byline here; I will languish in the pool of LGF obscurity forever. /s

But you get all the updings.

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b.d. (Lock Him Up, Lock Him Up!)  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:26:47pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

Oh hey! A byline! Of a page I posted at like two in the morning.

You should start a Substack now!

//

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:26:50pm

re: #115 Dangerman

he can stay but he should have to pay - for the sodas, the food, the rent, everything
he’s not the PM
they are not his perks

I read the Count of Monte Cristo as a kid.

Board the fucker in and charge him $20K per soda and $50K per sandwich.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:28:49pm

I have no personal issues with Taylor Swift.

Her music just doesn’t appeal to me at all.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:29:31pm

re: #116 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But you get all the updings.

Maybe we need a Lizard Loyalty program: xxxxx updings can be exchanged for one byline.

/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:29:45pm
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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:30:41pm

re: #111 Belafon

Nitzer Ebb-Join in the Chant

Join in the Chant - Nitzer Ebb lyrics.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:31:14pm

re: #116 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But you get all the updings.

My house is littered with them. I can hardly move around here.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:31:55pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I love how they think black people were suddenly equal in all things once the war ended.

Jim fucking Crow wasn’t struck down until almost ONE HUNDRED YEARS later!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:35:32pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

I have no personal issues with Taylor Swift.

Her music just doesn’t appeal to me at all.

Not to me either, but she is very pretty and tells white nationalists to fuck off, so I’m kind of a fan.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:35:40pm

re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg

I love how they think black people were suddenly equal in all things once the war ended.

Jim fucking Crow wasn’t struck down until almost ONE HUNDRED YEARS later!

And states tried to disestablish public schools afterward.

Heck, the city of Norfolk, VA was still fighting desegregation when I was stationed in Virginia Beach in the Eighties.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:36:02pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:37:19pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:38:11pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And states tried to disestablish public schools afterward.

Heck, the city of Norfolk, VA was still fighting desegregation when I was stationed in Virginia Beach in the Eighties.

Trump was sued by the Federal DOJ for housing discrimination in the 1970s because he refused to rent to persons of color.

He and his dad were forced to enter into a consent decree.

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garzooma  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:38:50pm

re: #125 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Not to me either, but she is very pretty and tells white nationalists to fuck off, so I’m kind of a fan.

There’s also this moment at Boston Children’s Hospital:

YouTube

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sagehen  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:39:46pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

700,000 white christian men died in the conflict to save the union and end slavery. Their descendants, such as they exist, are still waiting for a thank you from the Congressional Black Caucus. Instead, they demand slavery reparations. Blood is far more precious than sweat.

700,000 men died in the Civil War, he’s got that part right.

Half of them were Confederates; they died to dismantle the union and save slavery. And the union troops who died… a significant percentage of them were the Colored Troops.

The CBC owes no thank you’s.

From Lincoln’s 2nd Inaugural Address:

Fondly do we hope — fervently do we pray — that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said f[our] three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether”

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DesertDenizen  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:40:11pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who enslaved them in the first place Steve?.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:41:07pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And states tried to disestablish public schools afterward.

Heck, the city of Norfolk, VA was still fighting desegregation when I was stationed in Virginia Beach in the Eighties.

The city itself, or parents’ groups in affluent neighborhoods suing over the so-called “Robin Hood” funding plan?

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:43:22pm

re: #131 sagehen

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:45:10pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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700,000 white christian men died in the conflict to save the union and end slavery.

wait..
i thought the war wasnt about slavery

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sagehen  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:46:19pm

re: #125 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Not to me either, but she is very pretty and tells white nationalists to fuck off, so I’m kind of a fan.

Arianna Grande irritates the hell out of me. I’m not sure why. She has a lovely voice, I like a number of her songs, her personal and political public positions are fine. But she just irritates me. Maybe it’s the ponytail.

Also, I dislike Katy Perry.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:46:24pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:46:50pm

Oh look, Umphrey’s McGee put a brand new song on YouTube.

Restrung

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:48:59pm

re: #136 sagehen

I’m not a fan of “pop” music such as it is, including Swift or Perry. I’m sure there’s a few songs that I don’t mind by them, but I wouldn’t go out of way to listen to either. I’d much rather listen to alt rock, metal, industrial, etc.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 12:49:33pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And states tried to disestablish public schools afterward.

Heck, the city of Norfolk, VA was still fighting desegregation when I was stationed in Virginia Beach in the Eighties.

they;re still doing it today w/r/t voting

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:00:48pm

QAnons Are Harassing People at the Whim of a Woman They Say Is Canada’s Queen

Here’s my standing theory.

The Qanon sphere of conspiracy theories are about finding the information that justifies a behavior the believers wants to, but cannot find a normal avenue of justification for. In most cases, it’s about justifying an antisocial behavior—ranging from merely being self-important to violent—by creating an antagonist so malevolent that anything can be justified.

And for most, QAnon provides the opportunity to engage in violent fantasy twice over: first, in a moralistic obsession with physical and sexual abuse of children, and second in a moralistic obsession with visualizing the punishment of non-reactionaries who are, a priori, the perpetrators of all bad things. Public performance of this outrage is a form of titillation: of push boundaries between fantasy and reality. When they feel safe, they are willing to go farther with doing what they want…even when it has no direct effect on the purported cause of their effort.

Everything they do is orthogonal to the task they claim justifies what they’re doing. They don’t make any progress towards solving the problem because that’s not the point, the point is enjoyment…they are intoxicated, high on sadism, bloodlust, and a sense of moral imperviousness.

As a consequence, the leaders don’t’ really have to be more than passable actors, doing improv in which the central justifications—why we can be who we want to be—are reiterated and elaborated on. Interpreters of the basic form are always welcome, as new versions of the core premise permit for both more violent fantasy and reasons to engage, in public, in anti-social behavior.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:01:24pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Their descendants didn’t fight in the war and are owed nothing. Blacks, on the other hand, are still dealing with the effects of slavery and Jim Crow.

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mmmirele  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:03:38pm

re: #115 Dangerman

he can stay but he should have to pay - for the sodas, the food, the rent, everything
he’s not the PM
they are not his perks

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Maybe they should cut the electric and water and force him to negotiate with the local utilities to set up service in his name.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:03:39pm

re: #139 lawhawk

I’m not a fan of “pop” music such as it is, including Swift or Perry. I’m sure there’s a few songs that I don’t mind by them, but I wouldn’t go out of way to listen to either. I’d much rather listen to alt rock, metal, industrial, etc.

My kids got me the newest Lacuna Coil album for Father’s Day.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:04:00pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:05:38pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

To summarize:

Do these people believe this woman is the Queen of Canada?

They do to the exact extent it permits them to do what they want; it is not binary true or false, it’s suspended, an intentional cognitive dissonance.

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ericblair  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:07:26pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

700,000 white christian men died in the conflict to save the union and end slavery. Their descendants, such as they exist, are still waiting for a thank you from the Congressional Black Caucus. Instead, they demand slavery reparations. Blood is far more precious than sweat.

The kidnappers let you go after the cops surrounded their house! You should thank the kidnappers; they’re heroes!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:08:07pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

QAnons Are Harassing People at the Whim of a Woman They Say Is Canada’s Queen

Here’s my standing theory.

The Qanon sphere of conspiracy theories are about finding the information that justifies a behavior the believers wants to, but cannot find a normal avenue of justification for. In most cases, it’s about justifying an antisocial behavior—ranging from merely being self-important to violent—by creating an antagonist so malevolent that anything can be justified.

That’s just the Republican baseline. They pretend that civilized people are murdering babies to justify putting fascists in charge.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:10:17pm

This is an absolutely bizarre response to Jen Psaki’s tweet about her sister. There was no “derision” in it. Shaub seems to be going off the rails lately.

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:10:58pm

He deleted because of a typo. He should have left it deleted.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:11:43pm

re: #143 mmmirele

Maybe they should cut the electric and water and force him to negotiate with the local utilities to set up service in his name.

‘prove’ you’re a citizen…

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ericblair  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:11:51pm

re: #146 The Ghost of a Flea

To summarize:

Do these people believe this woman is the Queen of Canada?

They do to the exact extent it permits them to do what they want; it is not binary true or false, it’s suspended, an intentional cognitive dissonance.

I think you could say that the word “believe”, to them, doesn’t mean anything like what it means to normal people. You can’t decide that something is objectively real if you have given up on objective reality; it’s a tribal marker or wish fulfillment.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:13:30pm

Remember yesterday I told you all that Amazon had canceled the order for the back-up camera/monitor & refunded my money? (1) The order left Nampa, Id. (2) this morning and will supposedly be delivered today by 8:00 P.M. :-) LoL. And no, Bezos, you aren’t getting either the money OR the camera back.

(1.) Jun 17 2021
Point Of Sale Deposit amazon.com refundamazon.com SEATTLE WAUS
$116.59

(2.) 11:21 AM Package has left the carrier facility.
Nampa, ID US

Edit. Damn. Amazon is really loving me today.

Hi Michele, Your package is arriving earlier than we previously expected. It’s now arriving:
Monday, June 21
Previously expected:
Wednesday, June 23

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:14:47pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

Many of Didulo’s followers seem to believe she’s holding tribunals behind the scenes, which are resulting in the executions they’re thirsting for. These followers use extremely tenuous scraps of evidence to prove Didulo is actually in power—including the fact that Romana Didulo is an anagram for “I Am Our Donald.”

Good fucking grief.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:17:34pm

re: #152 ericblair

I think you could say that the word “believe”, to them, doesn’t mean anything like what it means to normal people. You can’t decide that something is objectively real if you have given up on objective reality; it’s a tribal marker or wish fulfillment.

the word belief tends to have two definitions:

1 belief that - an assertion of generally accepted objective universal truth - such that there can actually be one (it accepts that there is a reality and that people can ‘know’ things)

2 belief in - an assertion of faith where faith is belief without proof. it is by definition subjective, and the standards of evidence - in any other but a personally acceptable sense of the word, do not apply

they try to make it appear that they are using definition 1 while they are squarely operating inside 2

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:18:20pm

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

Also:

“Served Dairy Queen (a) Cease and Desist,” wrote one woman. “Very rude. Patrons were laughing at us. Two employees walked out and videotaped us. One said we can’t go there anymore. Felt good though.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:20:08pm

re: #148 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That’s just the Republican baseline. They pretend that civilized people are murdering babies to justify putting fascists in charge.

Yes, but the pattern is bigger than Republicans. I mean, the article linked is about Canuck QAnons who think that their latest social media favorite is Queen of Canada.

It’s localization: the pattern remains the same because it’s what’s actually important to the “believers” who don’t believe in any particular thing, just whatever works to get them what they want.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:22:12pm

re: #155 Dangerman

the word belief tends to have two definitions:

1 belief that - an assertion of generally accepted objective universal truth - such that there can actually be one (it accepts that there is a reality and that people can ‘know’ things)

2 belief in - an assertion of faith where faith is belief without proof. it is by definition subjective, and the standards of evidence - in any other but a personally acceptable sense of the word, do not apply

they try to make it appear that they are using definition 1 while they are squarely operating inside 2

See, I’m not sure they even have faith.

They glide from one explanatory structure to another very easily, and adopt new features with very little prompting.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:22:16pm

Teddy is having a very low-key, lazy day.

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mmmirele  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:24:26pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

QAnons Are Harassing People at the Whim of a Woman They Say Is Canada’s Queen

I have a bet with a coworker who thinks her QAnon sister (who lives in Iowa) has heard of this woman. I’m going to be astonished if Iowa sister knows, but I’ll happily pay up.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:25:02pm

re: #153 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Remember yesterday I told you all that Amazon had canceled the order for the back-up camera/monitor & refunded my money? (1) The order left Nampa, Id. (2) this morning and will supposedly be delivered today by 8:00 P.M. :-) LoL. And no, Bezos, you aren’t getting either the money OR the camera back.

(1.) Jun 17 2021
Point Of Sale Deposit amazon.com refundamazon.com SEATTLE WAUS
$116.59

(2.) 11:21 AM Package has left the carrier facility.
Nampa, ID US

Amazon’s actually good about that. I have gotten a refund, and the order, if the order doesn’t get delivered in the window they expected it to be delivered.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:27:34pm

i’m confused about Ashli Babbitt. was she:

- antifa
- the first FBI agent to die in the line of duty while attacking the Capitol
- a tourist minding her own business just standing in the middle of a crowd

?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:28:49pm

re: #162 Dangerman

i’m confused about Ashli Babbitt. was she:

- antifa
- the first FBI agent to die in the line of duty while attacking the Capitol
- a tourist minding her own business just standing in the middle of a crowd

?

Yes.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:29:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:29:21pm

I WON THE LOTTO!

Two free tickets.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:31:17pm

re: #164 HRH Stanley Sea

Science. How the fuck does it work?

/

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:35:32pm

re: #161 Belafon

Amazon’s actually good about that. I have gotten a refund, and the order, if the order doesn’t get delivered in the window they expected it to be delivered.

Really? This will be a first for me. I just assumed they canceled the order for some reason and refunded my money. Either way, I’m getting a free back-up camera that I will install & test tomorrow.

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KingKenrod  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:35:33pm

I’ve never seen this before - the final bit at the end burned my brain out.

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mmmirele  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:36:06pm

In between the SBC voting a resolution to “abolish” abortion (and punish women who obtain abortions) and this bullshit, I am so very very very tired of “godly men” trying to own women’s bodies.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:37:10pm

Like…if she turns out not to be Queen of Canada in some way, I don’t think they’ll stop doing what they’re doing, having the fantasies they’re having. They’ll find someone else willing to play that part of granter-of-license.

Which…another interesting part of this is the implicit cowardice.

Their premise story is that something unspeakable is happening and many identified people are culpable…but the moral thing to do is to symbolic things while the problem is resolved by others who require adulation and cash.

Get enough of these people together such that they feel safe—for example, a part of a reactionary mob on Jan 6th—and they still don’t really have a plan, they just kind of flail between ineffectual violence (sorry…cold blooded statement but given the riot if these people had any fucking competence to match their convictions they could done the shit they preen about) and basic petulance (floor shitting and throwing shit).

They are not brave people. They are also not disciplined people. The thing they’re doing is a murderous tantrum…and I think that’s a part of what defines them, that just total lack of continence that they view as a right.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:39:49pm

re: #168 KingKenrod

Giphy

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:39:51pm

re: #170 The Ghost of a Flea

They need another Q now that Q has stopped posting.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:41:46pm

re: #168 KingKenrod

I’ve never seen this before - the final bit at the end burned my brain out.

I wonder if it works in person, or if you have to have monoscopic vision for the illusion to work.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:45:48pm

re: #162 Dangerman

i’m confused about Ashli Babbitt. was she:

- antifa
- the first FBI agent to die in the line of duty while attacking the Capitol
- a tourist minding her own business just standing in the middle of a crowd

?

See, this is exactly why I think about this shit all the time.

If they’re just saying that to us, it’s bullshit, in the Harry Frankfurter sense of “doesn’t matter if it’s true, say what works.”

But they’re saying it to themselves, so it’s self-bullshiting?

Anyone, I’m obsessed with it because it’s a rejection of the very idea of epistemology—nothing is true—but because they constantly justify themselves using existing frameworks that they modify to say whatever they want, they also wittingly or unwittingly destroy the concept of meaning itself?

It bugs me. It says something about how people think that the standard Enlightenment model of the mind doesn’t address, but is more complicated and nuanced than “people are dumb panicky animals” fast and dirty takes. I don’t think it’s an abnormality, either, because it’s a thing anyone can fall into.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:45:49pm

Autonomous Research Boat Gets Under Way for Transatlantic Voyage (Maritime Executive Magazine, June 15, 2021)

(Mission statement of the magazine: To provide business leaders, professionals and executives with high-quality, incisive commentary on critical maritime issues. Our media platforms are not only a source of Intellectual Capital but also create enormous value for advertisers. Our goal is to be the top media venue for readers and advertisers.)

The IBM-sponsored autonomous vessel prototype Mayflower has departed the UK, bound on a transatlantic voyage to Plymouth, Massachusetts.

The AI-enabled, electric-powered vessel was developed by IBM with the non-profit ocean research organization ProMare and a partnership of scientific organizations. It was formally launched in Plymouth, England in September, and after conducting final outfitting and sea trials - and waiting out COVID-related delays and some bad weather - it is now under way.

The Mayflower measures 15 meters in length and weights five tons, and it has a top speed of 20 knots. It is equipped with a range of scientific instruments to take measurements during its long journey, covering everything from water chemistry to microplastic pollution to whale song.

The vessel’s navigation is powered by a new class of marine AI, underpinned by IBM’s automation software, computer vision technology, and Red Hat Open Source software. According to IBM, the vessel’s scientific package also leverages AI capabilities to further its mission.

(more at the link)

It departed Plymouth, England, bound for Plymouth, Massachusetts.

There are no crew aboard. I suppose if someone could track it down on its North Atlantic voyage, they could steal the vessel, damage it, or sink it.

Could also make for good naval gunfire practice.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:46:45pm

re: #172 Belafon

They need another Q now that Q has stopped posting.

I’m surprised that no bullshitter has stepped up to fill the gap. Maybe the number of people who will attack democracy for the lulz is lower than I imagine it to be.

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mmmirele  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:49:54pm

This.

I’m hoping the people who are squawking about threatening the Catholic church’s tax exemption follow through.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:50:21pm

re: #176 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’m surprised that no bullshitter has stepped up to fill the gap. Maybe the number of people who will attack democracy for the lulz is lower than I imagine it to be.

People such as this erstwhile Queen of Canada are filling in.

Eventually, one of the grifters will take over the majority of the Qverse, with others splintering off in a schism.

It really is a religion.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:51:01pm

re: #176 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’m surprised that no bullshitter has stepped up to fill the gap. Maybe the number of people who will attack democracy for the lulz is lower than I imagine it to be.

Oh, there are people doing successor bits to Q.

Some are aping the style exactly trying to be clocked as Q, others are controlling the narrative by acting as explainers re-interpreting existing Q material, others are claiming to have their own mysterious sources.

There’s just no central consensus…but I also don’t think consensus matters because they want the same thing—to think all the time about abused kids and how bad they’ll hurt their abusers.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:51:21pm

re: #174 The Ghost of a Flea

The ends justify the means.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:52:29pm

re: #180 Belafon

The ends justify the means.

This variation seems to better reflect conservatives.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:52:47pm

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Could also make for good naval gunfire practice.

It’s already failed and heading back home:
AP: AI-powered Mayflower, beset with glitch, returns to England

PLYMOUTH, England (AP) — The Mayflower had a few false starts before its trailblazing sea voyage to America more than 400 years ago. Now, its artificial intelligence-powered namesake is having some glitches of its own.

A sleek robotic trimaran retracing the 1620 journey of the famous English vessel had to turn back Friday to fix a mechanical problem.

Nonprofit marine research organization ProMare, which worked with IBM to build the autonomous ship, said it made the decision to return to base “to investigate and fix a minor mechanical issue” but hopes to be back on the trans-Atlantic journey as soon as possible.

With no humans on board the ship, there’s no one to make repairs while it’s at sea.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:54:09pm

re: #180 Belafon

The ends justify the means.

…but also the ends justify darker more horny ends that can only be talked about elliptically?

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:54:59pm

re: #158 The Ghost of a Flea

See, I’m not sure they even have faith.

They glide from one explanatory structure to another very easily, and adopt new features with very little prompting.

this came from my notes w/r/t science vs religion, hence, faith

yes, ‘faith’ is being charitable in this case

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:56:00pm

re: #164 HRH Stanley Sea

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but we’re open!!!!
(well we were)

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:57:27pm

re: #183 The Ghost of a Flea

…but also the ends justify darker more horny ends that can only be talked about elliptically?

Only on the internet. ‘Cause rules.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:57:32pm

re: #168 KingKenrod

I’ve never seen this before - the final bit at the end burned my brain out.

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I’ve seen this before in one of the youtube videos about optical illusions.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:58:11pm

re: #162 Dangerman

i’m confused about Ashli Babbitt. was she:

- antifa
- the first FBI agent to die in the line of duty while attacking the Capitol
- a tourist minding her own business just standing in the middle of a crowd window.

?

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:59:38pm

re: #168 KingKenrod

I’ve never seen this before - the final bit at the end burned my brain out.

[Embedded content]

dems: there’s a logical explanation if we can just gain perspective

rs: i can see. the pen is going through the window. it’s plain as day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 1:59:42pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:00:00pm

re: #183 The Ghost of a Flea

…but also the ends justify darker more horny ends that can only be talked about elliptically?

Not that this is just a QAnon thing.

Reactionaries are thirsty for a return to the days of sun down towns and demimondes stocked with the desperate and stigmatized.

Like, they created a rigid moral system that forgives their transgressions with perfunctory rituals of repentance, but completely isolates people without power from society leading them to privation, for a reason?

Like, this shape recurs not because it’s moral, but because it’s convenient, right??

There’s all the stuff they like but can’t talk about, but that leaks into their moralism because they have to construct explanations for why they’re not responsible for indulging that thing they know is immoral even in their own standards.

Which is why all reactionary movements have long, detailed explanations for why girls are just too tempting and need to be punished for being too tempting.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:06:25pm

Awwwwww

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:07:28pm

re: #191 The Ghost of a Flea

Such as porn. The highest consumption seems to be Christian communities. In the South, interracial porn seems to be the big thing.

So the women are slatterns for making porn, but they are poor slobs who are being misled by those Jezebels (but are forgiven, because Jesus).

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:08:57pm

re: #174 The Ghost of a Flea

See, this is exactly why I think about this shit all the time.

If they’re just saying that to us, it’s bullshit, in the Harry Frankfurter sense of “doesn’t matter if it’s true, say what works.”

But they’re saying it to themselves, so it’s self-bullshiting?

Anyone, I’m obsessed with it because it’s a rejection of the very idea of epistemology—nothing is true—but because they constantly justify themselves using existing frameworks that they modify to say whatever they want, they also wittingly or unwittingly destroy the concept of meaning itself?

It bugs me. It says something about how people think that the standard Enlightenment model of the mind doesn’t address, but is more complicated and nuanced than “people are dumb panicky animals” fast and dirty takes. I don’t think it’s an abnormality, either, because it’s a thing anyone can fall into.

yes exactly.
partially because they have not come up against enough hard truths that force a re-calibration or even any consequences for their bizarre thought processes.

“from now on, 95+ % of those who die from covid will be be unvaccinated.”
should be enough and it isn’t.

Sting wrote “Russians” trying to identify some visceral common humanity.
then we got people willing to suicide themselves or their children for a ‘cause’.

so while none of them would walk in front of a moving crosstown bus, because they know, they might toss members of their family.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:11:26pm

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s already failed and heading back home:
AP: AI-powered Mayflower, beset with glitch, returns to England

With no humans on board the ship, there’s no one to make repairs while it’s at sea.

sucks to not have opposable thumbs, huh?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:13:11pm

Okay, final thing because I’ve been at this longer than I noticed:

I think this is why the right is so prone to being grifted.

If everything’s just a story to do what you want, you let in anybody that gives you a little hit of rhetoric.

Accepting the premise of truth as a transaction spirals down into more and more expensive pursuit of that hit.

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ericblair  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:13:57pm

re: #174 The Ghost of a Flea

Anyone, I’m obsessed with it because it’s a rejection of the very idea of epistemology—nothing is true—but because they constantly justify themselves using existing frameworks that they modify to say whatever they want, they also wittingly or unwittingly destroy the concept of meaning itself?

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away” - Philip K. Dick.

You can be as psychotic as you like, but if you step off a tall building believing you’ll fly like Superman it’s not going to help you when you smack the pavement at terminal velocity.

What their beliefs mean to us is that they will not stop themselves and will need to be stopped.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:16:22pm

re: #192 JOE 🥓

Awwwwww

[Embedded content]

they all want special privileges and think the things they ask for are reasonable and somehow justifiable. A car show, my job, my diet, my doctor, i’m responsible for….

talk to Kalief Browder. Oh wait, you can’t

Three years in Rikers without a trial.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:17:04pm

Tricare just sent the statement for the visit to the cardiologist I had.

$7,740.63

Amount paid by CHAMPUS:

$7,740.63

I like single payer healthcare. I’d really like to see everyone have that.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:17:55pm

re: #195 Dangerman

sucks to not have opposable thumbs, huh?

Should have had one of these guys aboard.

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steve_davis  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:22:33pm

re: #111 Belafon

It would be hilarious if the Pope showed up and gave communion to Biden himself. And then fired the Cardinals.

I gather it isn’t the cardinal, but the bishops who are instigating this. Don’t be completely surprised if the pope is playing a bit softy-softy with this one because he plans to call all bishops to rome who vote in favor of this and chew their hides, possibly removing some of them or relegating them to vatican positions where they’re basically in charge of licking the s&h greenstamps into the books.

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Jay C  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:22:55pm

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

Many of Didulo’s followers seem to believe she’s holding tribunals behind the scenes, which are resulting in the executions they’re thirsting for. These followers use extremely tenuous scraps of evidence to prove Didulo is actually in power—including the fact that Romana Didulo is an anagram for “I Am Our Donald.”

Good fucking grief.

“Romana Didulo” is also an anagram for “A rum on a dildo
So…??

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EPR-radar  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:25:05pm

re: #196 The Ghost of a Flea

One way to look at this is viewing every conservative lie as having an implicit “and I’d really like to force you to agree with my obvious bullshit” tacked on at the end.

US conservatism in the 21st century is just a recent and perhaps the most successful attempt to ‘justify’ might makes right. The most recent prior example of true conservatism in action ended in a bunker in Berlin in 1945.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:25:41pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

We’re reaching the point where, since the Biden administration isn’t full of lying, cheating, conniving criminals, everyone is demanding perfection and for everyone to fix everything last week. This is the shit that does a damn fine job of keeping that Both Sides Do It/Dems In Disarray thing going and going like an evil Energizer Bunny.

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Dangerman  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:27:36pm

re: #202 Jay C

“Romana Didulo” is also an anagram for “A rum on a dildo
So…??

and backwards it’s “Paul is a dead man. Miss him.”

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:28:51pm

re: #195 Dangerman

sucks to not have opposable thumbs, huh?

I remember, from a few years ago, where DARPA had a self-navigating car contest. No one passed the first time. So, they held it again a couple of years later, but upped the challenge, and multiple vehicles passed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:34:15pm

Brisket was on sale again today at Kroger

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:36:13pm

There already is a Queen of Canada. She is Queen Elizabeth II. Her picture is on all the money.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:36:34pm

re: #200 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Or one of these:

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:37:55pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He’s trash, but that’s popular with other trash.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:39:07pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:39:28pm

re: #208 The Pie Overlord!

There already is a Queen of Canada. She is Queen Elizabeth II. Her picture is on all the money.

They mean the real Queen, not that woman in a castle who’s propped up by the lamestream media. Study it out.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:43:34pm

Argh. Google’s Closure Compiler is an awesome tool for processing Javascript code, but it’s fighting me on simple ES6 module import statements. No matter what path I try it complains that it can’t find the modules.

If I run the code un-processed, it works fine, it’s not the code. And I can’t find any good solutions by searching. Frustrating.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:49:20pm

re: #209 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Or one of these:

[Embedded content]

But can it play (and cheat at) poker?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:55:35pm

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s already failed and heading back home:
AP: AI-powered Mayflower, beset with glitch, returns to England

But we should have autonomous cars and trucks, because reasons.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 18, 2021 • 2:56:36pm
217
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:05:04pm

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

But we should have autonomous cars and trucks, because reasons.

Because of reasons like the fact that they’ll be safer than putting dopey humans behind the wheel when development is complete. Truckers driving for three days straight on meth will also be a thing of the past.

Of course we’ll need a more socialist system as computers take over low-skilled jobs, and will probably fail to do that, leaving disgruntled unemployed people to join the fascist movement.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:12:56pm
LINCOLN — The Nebraska Supreme Court has rejected the appeal of man convicted of conspiracy to deal drugs and robbery who had maintained that COVID-19 precautions prevented him from having a fair trial.

The court’s 35-page ruling on Friday upheld the convictions of Estrada Comacho, and the sentence imposed, 14-18 years in prison.

Comacho, according to court records, had worked in January of 2019 to arrange the purchase of a pound of methamphetamine for an Elk Creek man. But when given $5,000 for the purchase, Comacho walked away from the man’s car, parked outside a Grand Island apartment. Shots were then fired, with one striking the prospective purchaser in the face.

A later search of Comacho’s apartment uncovered about $2,000 in cash stuffed inside a black boot, and text messages tied him to others involved in arranging a drug purchase.

One witness who testified in the trial of Comacho was a bilingual Grand Island police investigator, Timothy Champion, who had tested positive for COVID-19 and was experiencing symptoms at the time of the July trial.

Champion, who had translated some phone calls Camacho made from jail after his arrest, was allowed to testify via a two-way video connection due to his infection.

(more)

Nebraska Supreme Court rejects COVID related appeal of robbery, drug dealing conviction (Omaha World-Herald)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:13:55pm
Of course we’ll need a more socialist system as computers take over low-skilled jobs, and will probably fail to do that, leaving disgruntled unemployed people to join the fascist movement.

I’m scared of the midterrms becuase we’ll soon have millions of evicted citizens real soon now, with no immediate plans in the hopper for dealing with them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:19:35pm

re: #217 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Because of reasons like the fact that they’ll be safer than putting dopey humans behind the wheel when development is complete. Truckers driving for three days straight on meth will also be a thing of the past.

Of course we’ll need a more socialist system as computers take over low-skilled jobs, and will probably fail to do that, leaving disgruntled unemployed people to join the fascist movement.

They’ll still have to do better on simpler technology (like showing all the roads on GPS or Internet maps), or changes to roads which occur constantly across the nation.

google.com

For example, in this Google Street View of Smith Avenue in my town, you don’t see the Jersey barriers and trench dug across the road to make it impassable for through traffic.

You do see a friendly school bus coming in the opposite direction from US-26 though.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:23:42pm

re: #153 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Remember yesterday I told you all that Amazon had canceled the order for the back-up camera/monitor & refunded my money? (1) The order left Nampa, Id. (2) this morning and will supposedly be delivered today by 8:00 P.M. :-) LoL. And no, Bezos, you aren’t getting either the money OR the camera back.

(1.) Jun 17 2021
Point Of Sale Deposit amazon.com refundamazon.com SEATTLE WAUS
$116.59

(2.) 11:21 AM Package has left the carrier facility.
Nampa, ID US

Edit. Damn. Amazon is really loving me today.

Hi Michele, Your package is arriving earlier than we previously expected. It’s now arriving:
Monday, June 21
Previously expected:
Wednesday, June 23

I recently ordered a book from Amazon. Received it. It was sitting on my desk for 2 weeks and then I received a mail saying that they “received my return and would be processing a refund” for that book. I never requested a refund or sent them anything.

I got my $40 back. The book is still on my shelf.

Bezos’ computers taking a shit not in his favor aren’t my problem.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:24:42pm

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They’ll still have to do better on simpler technology (like showing all the roads on GPS or Internet maps), or changes to roads which occur constantly across the nation.

google.com

For example, in this Google Street View of Smith Avenue in my town, you don’t see the Jersey barriers and trench dug across the road to make it impassable for through traffic.

You do see a friendly school bus coming in the opposite direction from US-26 though.

They do not have to wait for tech that they do not use to get better. They just have to be better than a human at reliably dealing with local data gathered by sensors that are more reliable than human senses. It’s an achievable goal with current technology.

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EPR-radar  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:35:24pm

re: #222 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They do not have to wait for tech that they do not use to get better. They just have to be better than a human at reliably dealing with local data gathered by sensors that are more reliable than human senses. It’s an achievable goal with current technology.

Legal liability will be a significant issue. Nobody is going to want to be on the hook for the inevitable accidents caused by self driving vehicles (even if that accident rate is lower than the human accident rate).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:37:21pm

re: #221 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I recently ordered a book from Amazon. Received it. It was sitting on my desk for 2 weeks and then I received a mail saying that they “received my return and would be processing a refund” for that book. I never requested a refund or sent them anything.

I got my $40 back. The book is still on my shelf.

Bezos’ computers taking a shit not in his favor aren’t my problem.

I’ve got an Amazon order that was out for delivery via UPS today, according to the tracking.
Then there’s a message that the delivery is on hold because of “an incorrect address”.
The address on the UPS tracking is totes my address and it’s not like UPS doesn’t know us.

grrrr.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:37:53pm

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Google Maps almost ran me off a cliff once. Somewhere in Los Angeles, near Arlington Heights IIRC. There’s apparently a residential street that stops and then restarts on the bottom of a steep embankment. Google maps claimed it just kept going.

They also can’t seem to figure out the HOV lanes in San Diego on I-15. Waze can’t either.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:39:09pm

re: #225 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Google Maps almost ran me off a cliff once. Somewhere in Los Angeles, near Arlington Heights IIRC. There’s apparently a residential street that stops and then restarts on the bottom of a steep embankment. Google maps claimed it just kept going.

They also can’t seem to figure out the HOV lanes in San Diego on I-15. Waze can’t either.

When Apple Maps was first released it directed drivers to make a left turn…off a bridge…to the interstate below.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:40:12pm

re: #222 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They do not have to wait for tech that they do not use to get better. They just have to be better than a human at reliably dealing with local data gathered by sensors that are more reliable than human senses. It’s an achievable goal with current technology.

I admit I am not fully knowledgeable about how a self-driving car works, but it is my understanding you have to either plot a route into the computer, or let the computer plot the route.

Presumably the maps would either be in the car’s computer or obtained elsewhere.

Unless they make a hell of a lot better maps than Google, Apple, or Mapquest (and update them constantly which might be tough in areas with no cell service), that becomes a real problem.

For example, right now, state highway 17J Link (between US-30 and US-385 in Sidney, and Interstate 80) is under construction, with frequent lane changes. It will be like that for two years.

In Omaha, the city today started reconstructing the entrance to Eppley Airfield (the city airport), along with Abbot Drive (the only access to the airport and Carter Lake, Iowa). That will also involve lane switching and temporary third lanes for a couple years.

228
Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:41:20pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

When Apple Maps was first released it directed drivers to make a left turn…off a bridge…to the interstate below.

That’s always fun. Hollywood taught me if you go faster than 55 you can jump a bus over that and it will be fine though.

/s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:46:53pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

When Apple Maps was first released it directed drivers to make a left turn…off a bridge…to the interstate below.

Think Apple Maps is bad? Sat Nav leads woman straight into a lake (Trusted Reviews)

Apple Maps Drove Me Over Water (Rusty Brick)

Sunday, December 3rd at about 4:15am EST, I was driving over the Hudson River in New York. Well, at least I was literally driving through the river according to Apple Maps. Here is a screen shot of Apple Maps on CarPlay asking me to turn around immediately as I am in the water:

(more)

8 drivers who blindly followed their GPS into disaster (The Week)

Perhaps the solution might be something lower tech than a libertarian techbro hellscape.

How about if you’re driving on the Interstate, the road is reworked like a slot car track? /s

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:51:03pm

re: #225 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

They also can’t seem to figure out the HOV lanes in San Diego on I-15. Waze can’t either.

That’s why I downloaded HERE We Go - it’s genesis was Nokia’s map division, and is now owned by a German consortium of automotive companies. It works with Apple’s Car Play.

It’s biggest feature is the ability to download maps for offline use. I used to be a longtime Android user (with some Windows Phone thrown in along the way) and I’m still getting used to iOS. In someways iOS is better than Android (odds are there wil be more iOS updates than stock Android, even on Google-branded phones) and in some areas Android is superior (live transcription, especially in phone calls - Apple is worfully deficient here).

Just my $0.02 for having gone into Apple’s walled garden for a few months. (FWIW, I’m using an iPhone 12 mini - I like smaller phones, and loathe the phablets that everybody seems to be using these days. T-Mobile’s 5G, speedwise, is a crapshoot - in some areaas I got way over 100 mbps while in Florida, but in my neck of the wodds it’s all band 71, and reception is so bad where I live I have a 4G femto-cell - this was before WiFi calling became prevasive on devices.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:52:42pm

(2:34, clip from “The Office”)

Michael Drives Into A Lake - The Office US

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:53:26pm

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Apple’s troubled Maps app could be dangerous in the wrong circumstances, Australian police have warned, after rescuing several people who were directed into the outback by mistake.

Cops in Victoria have had to fetch tourists from the huge Murray Sunset National Park, after their iPhones sent them more than 40 miles out of their way. Apple Maps plotted the entire town of Mildura in the wrong place.

“Police are extremely concerned as there is no water supply within the Park and temperatures can reach as high as 46 degrees (ed. This would be celsius, so well over 100 Fahrenheit), making this a potentially life threatening issue,” said Acting Senior Sergeant Sharon Darcy in a statement.

“Some of the motorists located by police have been stranded for up to 24 hours without food or water and have walked long distances through dangerous terrain to get phone reception.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 18, 2021 • 3:57:48pm
234
Belafon  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:05:27pm

Stupendium has a new video out for Cyberpunk 2077, and it’s really about now:

THE DATA STREAM | Cyberpunk 2077 Song feat. Cami-Cat!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:07:17pm
Western Nebraskans are feeling the heat much earlier than usual this year as the Panhandle sees record high temperatures for this time of year.

According the National Weather Service in Cheyenne, Scottsbluff broke a 125-year-old record on Tuesday, June 15, with a whopping 105 degrees. The old record for that day was 103. Scottsbluff and Sidney both broke records on Wednesday as well at 103 degrees each. The previous records were from 2020 at 98 and 100 degrees, respectively.

Meteorologist Matt Dewey said this extreme heat is not very characteristic of a Wyobraska summer in general, let alone this early in the year.

“Even for the Colorado side, we will see 100 degrees in August, sometimes, and I’m looking at the normal here (Scottsbluff), and that’s not necessarily a normal thing,” Dewey, who came to the area from Colorado, said. “So yeah, those hundreds are significant to us, and we’re not really used to them.”

Dewey said the warm temperatures were due to a kind of dome of hot air that settled over the region.

“This is a pretty common phenomenon,” he said. “What ended up happening is that we got this ‘blocking ridge pattern,’ as we call it. So, we got a ridge of high pressure that really developed over a good portion of the U.S. And when I say it’s a blocking pattern, it doesn’t really allow it to be pushed out by other weather systems coming in.”

(more)

Scottsbluff, Sidney see record highs for mid-June (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:07:45pm

re: #233 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The shooting was ruled accidental and the man will not face charges.

The sheriff, however, hopes the man will get some additional training. (emphasis added)

Reminds me of these masterminds:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:10:32pm

…HEAVY RAINFALL AND TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS SPREADING ACROSS
PORTIONS OF THE NORTHERN GULF COAST…

SUMMARY OF 400 PM CDT…2100 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…27.9N 91.2W
ABOUT 125 MI…200 KM S OF MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA
ABOUT 270 MI…430 KM SW OF MOBILE ALABAMA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…45 MPH…75 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…N OR 5 DEGREES AT 16 MPH…26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1006 MB…29.71 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
——————————
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for…
* East of Morgan City, Louisiana to the Okaloosa/Walton County line
Florida.
* Lake Pontchartrain, Lake Maurepas, and Metropolitan New Orleans

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area, in this case within the
next 6-12 hours.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:12:28pm

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Many moonss ago when I was at my brother’s weeding his 2009 Prius GPS map showed that he wasn’t driving on any road at all - it was a new bridge that just opened up in Rhode Island. Back in the day, the map was stored as a DVD under the passenger seat.

At least now with my 2017 Impreza it supports both Android Auto and Apple Car Play (which was anotehr reason why I bought the iPhone - Google still hasn’t fixed a major disconnection issue they have with Android Auto connected via USB for almost 2 years - it will just stop working.)

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garzooma  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:14:51pm

re: #238 Eric The Fruit Bat

Many moonss ago when I was at my brother’s weeding his 2009 Prius GPS map showed that he wasn’t driving on any road at all - it was a new bridge that just opened up in Rhode Island. Back in the day, the map was stored as a DVD under the passenger seat.

At least now with my 2017 Impreza it supports both Android Auto and Apple Car Play (which was anotehr reason why I bought the iPhone - Google still hasn’t fixed a major disconnection issue they have with Android Auto connected via USB for almost 2 years - it will just stop working.)

Was that the Iway Bridge? I had a DVD map and drove across it, too. It was fun to see the GPS thinking I was driving across water :-).

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:17:24pm
A recent legal decision and partially released memo make clear what we have long known: Attorney General William Barr’s primary mission as head of the Department of Justice was to prevent President Donald Trump from facing consequences for his actions, no matter what the special counsel or anyone else uncovered.

Many of us have long suspected that Barr deliberately set out to spin the contents of the Mueller report and manufacture bogus legal analysis in order to protect Trump from facing consequences for the crimes laid out in the report. We now have proofthat Barr did exactly that.

***

While it is troubling that the Justice Department continues to fight disclosing the full memo, the brief portion they did release gives up the ghost as to what Barr and the department were trying to do in 2019.

“Although the Special Counsel recognized the unfairness of levying an accusation against the President without bringing criminal charges, the Report’s failure to take a position on the matters described therein might be read to imply such an accusation if the confidential report were released to the public,” the memo says. It then recommends that the attorney general “therefore” do his own analysis.

In other words, as Judge Amy Berman Jackson wrote in her blistering opinion in the case, “what the writers were actually discussing was how to neutralize the impact of the Report in the court of public opinion.”

Garland and DOJ must finish Mueller’s work. Investigate Trump for obstruction of justice.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:17:24pm

re: #239 garzooma

Was that the Iway Bridge? I had a DVD map and drove across it, too. It was fun to see the GPS thinking I was driving across water :-).

Probably was.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 18, 2021 • 4:37:37pm

re: #228 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

That’s always fun. Hollywood taught me if you go faster than 55 you can jump a bus over that and it will be fine though.

/s

My brother-in-law was behind the video cameras during that movie shoot. And above them, and under them, and on either side of them.


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