Scary Pockets: “Everybody Wants to Rule the World” (Funk Cover Ft. Cory Henry)

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A funk cover of Tears for Fears’ “Everybody Wants to Rule the World” by Scary Pockets & Cory Henry.

MUSICIAN CREDITS
Lead vocal / Keys: Cory Henry
Drums: Louis Cato
Bass: Solomon Dorsey
Keys: Jack Conte
Guitar: Ryan Lerman

AUDIO CREDITS
Recording Engineer: Caleb Parker
Assistant Engineer: Chad Gordon
Mixing/Mastering: Caleb Parker

VIDEO CREDITS
Director: Merlin Camozzi
DP: Marc Patterson
Camera Operator: Silvia Lara
Editor: Adam Kritzberg
Lighting Design: Cole Peterson
Production Design: Justin O’Brien
Tech: Joonas Cohen

Recorded Live at East West in Los Angeles, CA.

#ScaryPockets #Funk #TearsForFears #CoryHenry #EverybodyWantsToRuleTheWorld

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211 comments
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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2021 • 5:55:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2021 • 5:59:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2021 • 5:59:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:00:33pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:07:10pm

Who is the real Dictator of America?

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:13:51pm

re: #5 The Pie Overlord!

Who is the real Dictator of America?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:14:38pm

I Play Metal?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:19:51pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:28:12pm

Pyrocumulus cloud above the #SylvanFire.

jiwzAsFxVP6CjXw9pVFXjKFlKh/BI+nlfBwkkpvNjifzclGEYgvoOp93bkkN5/Os

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:39:48pm

Pray for Rain

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JOE 🥓  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:45:40pm

re: #8 Dread Pirate Ron

So McClosKKKey bought a gun in defiance of a court order. When is he going to placed in contempt of court and jailed?

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JOE 🥓  Jun 21, 2021 • 6:46:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:04:48pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:09:01pm

Did you drop this, Mikey?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:09:49pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:14:02pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Giphy

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:24:02pm

re: #6 Belafon

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:24:06pm

Not to bludgeon an equine mammal in metabolic stasis… but

The discussion from a the past couple of days over Atheism, as a movement, having a big problem with assholes, and basically being co-opted by right wingers, transphobes, Islamophobes, etc…

(Basically it has a old white men problem)

Well this popped up on the front page of Youtube for me like they were reading my mind.

The Richard Dawkins Dilemma: New Atheism Got Old But Never Grew Up

Steve Shives is a really good youtuber I highly recommend for people who love Star Trek *and* progressive politics.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:26:53pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Pompeo about to hit his pipe:

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:27:20pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Pompeo about to hit his pipe:

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Whatever he’s smoking in there, I don’t want it. I wanna get fucked up, not cray-cray.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:35:16pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:37:55pm

Almost forgot to mention: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949 in Salisbury, England. Harry Truman was President of the United, States. George VI was monarch of the United Kingdom, Clement Atlee was PM. The Yankees won the World Series. Apollo 11 was 20 years in the future. Joe Biden was 6 years old and had just started school. Then, as now, Donald Trump was a toddler.

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calochortus  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:38:32pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Almost forgot to mention: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949 in Salisbury, England. Harry Truman was President of the United, States. George VI was monarch of the United Kingdom, Clement Atlee was PM. The Yankees won the World Series. Apollo 11 was 20 years in the future. Joe Biden was 6 years old and had just started school. Then, as now, Donald Trump was a toddler.

Happy Birthday!

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No Malarkey!  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:38:41pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Almost forgot to mention: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949 in Salisbury, England. Harry Truman was President of the United, States. George VI was monarch of the United Kingdom, Clement Atlee was PM. The Yankees won the World Series. Apollo 11 was 20 years in the future. Joe Biden was 6 years old and had just started school. Then, as now, Donald Trump was a toddler.

Happy birthday!

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:39:58pm

From the “color me surprised” files…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:40:22pm

re: #18 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

It’s been some time since I’ve watched one of Steve’s videos, mostly because he gets into topics that have not interest for me.

He has a point here in that video, but I think he misses the bigger picture, when he argues for why he doesn’t do explicitly atheism-promoting videos any more.

For while he acknowledges that a public figure can get well past their expiry date (e.g. Dawkins), what Steve does not embrace is that then each new generation needs their own spokespeople.

Now maybe he doesn’t want to assign to himself that role for atheism, but the teenagers and twenty-somethings today need messengers and spokes people that can address them.

Steve is probably too old for that himself, but I think he could try.

And yes, that means repeating yourself.

There is nothing wrong with repeating yourself.

Professors often teach the same subject for decades. And the good ones find they get better and better each time they do it.

Steve is probably more concerned with left-wing politics than atheism, but I think if he spent more time at the intersection of the two he could discover new topics to discuss.

I see he still does Star Trek videos. Well, Star Trek as a topic has been truly been beaten into a fine pulp by now. Yet Steve still thinks to do ST videos, in which he probably repeats what a thousand trekkies have already discussed on boards and in videos.

So, no, I’m not so convinced that he couldn’t do an atheism series that has value to the younger generation.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:43:05pm

We haven’t gotten rain for the past two or so weeks after getting flooded. So I finally got around to setting the sprinkers to go off tonight. And it’s raining.

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:43:52pm

re: #27 Belafon

We haven’t gotten rain for the past two or so weeks after getting flooded. So I finally got around to setting the sprinkers to go off tonight. And it’s raining.

At the cabin where I spent the weekend, the sprinklers were running every morning. Including yesterday morning, when it was raining from 5:00 through the entire day.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jun 21, 2021 • 7:53:06pm

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wish I could give you more than one up ding for this. I’m considering, taking this point to him directly (in a non pushy way and if I can get past my anxiety wall) since I’m on his Patreon and see if he’s looked at it from that angle or not.

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TedStriker  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:08:13pm

re: #18 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Not to bludgeon an equine mammal in metabolic stasis… but

The discussion from a the past couple of days over Atheism, as a movement, having a big problem with assholes, and basically being co-opted by right wingers, transphobes, Islamophobes, etc…

(Basically it has a old white men problem)

Well this popped up on the front page of Youtube for me like they were reading my mind.

[Embedded content]

Steve Shives is a really good youtuber I highly recommend for people who love Star Trek *and* progressive politics.

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s been some time since I’ve watched one of Steve’s videos, mostly because he gets into topics that have not interest for me.

He has a point here in that video, but I think he misses the bigger picture, when he argues for why he doesn’t do explicitly atheism-promoting videos any more.

For while he acknowledges that a public figure can get well past their expiry date (e.g. Dawkins), what Steve does not embrace is that then each new generation needs their own spokespeople.

Now maybe he doesn’t want to assign to himself that role for atheism, but the teenagers and twenty-somethings today need messengers and spokes people that can address them.

Steve is probably too old for that himself, but I think he could try.

And yes, that means repeating yourself.

There is nothing wrong with repeating yourself.

Professors often teach the same subject for decades. And the good ones find they get better and better each time they do it.

Steve is probably more concerned with left-wing politics than atheism, but I think if he spent more time at the intersection of the two he could discover new topics to discuss.

I see he still does Star Trek videos. Well, Star Trek as a topic has been truly been beaten into a fine pulp by now. Yet Steve still thinks to do ST videos, in which he probably repeats what a thousand trekkies have already discussed on boards and in videos.

So, no, I’m not so convinced that he couldn’t do an atheism series that has value to the younger generation.

I love Steve, particularly for his Star Trek and related stuff, so much so that I’ve been a Patreon patron of his for at least a couple of years (as well as that of his podcasting partner-in-crime Jason Harding, with whom Steve does two podcasts with: “Late Seating” [a classic movie review podcast] and “The Ensign’s Log” [a Star Trek fanfic comedy podcast, in which Steve and Jason’s characters are junior officers aboard the Enterprise during ST:TOS for its first three seasons and now during ST:TNG this season (don’t ask, just listen and all will be made clear ;-P)]).

Iframe

That said, I’ve never really delved heavily into Steve’s atheism commentaries, just enough that I have at least a cursory understanding of where he stands, but I have seen/heard enough to know that his positions/who he supports in the atheism community has changed somewhat over the years (“matured” may be a wrong term to use, but they have changed). For good or ill, maybe Steve doesn’t feel that he could be a decent enough atheism “spokesperson” in his own opinion to put himself out on that elevated stage, but, even so, just the fact that he does still address issues within that community with his videos is more than many people would feel comfortable doing, so there’s that.

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TedStriker  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:22:04pm

re: #29 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I wish I could give you more than one up ding for this. I’m considering, taking this point to him directly (in a non pushy way and if I can get past my anxiety wall) since I’m on his Patreon and see if he’s looked at it from that angle or not.

Just send him a DM through Patreon if you feel that strongly about it…there’s only two answers you could get, “yes” or “no”.

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plansbandc  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:25:25pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Happy Birthday!!!!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:25:44pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Almost forgot to mention: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949 in Salisbury, England. Harry Truman was President of the United, States. George VI was monarch of the United Kingdom, Clement Atlee was PM. The Yankees won the World Series. Apollo 11 was 20 years in the future. Joe Biden was 6 years old and had just started school. Then, as now, Donald Trump was a toddler.

Happy birthday and +1000 for the bolded zinger.

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wrenchwench  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:32:45pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Happy Birthday! Have an upding.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:33:25pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Almost forgot to mention: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949 in Salisbury, England. Harry Truman was President of the United, States. George VI was monarch of the United Kingdom, Clement Atlee was PM. The Yankees won the World Series. Apollo 11 was 20 years in the future. Joe Biden was 6 years old and had just started school. Then, as now, Donald Trump was a toddler.

A very Happy Birthday! And wishing you a great year!

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William Lewis  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:41:50pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Happy birthday, Sir. May it be a wonderful day for you and reflect many more that are yet to be.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:42:54pm

re: #17 No Malarkey!

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Hey now, I’ve been assured that McConnell would never do anything of the sort because he wants to get reelected to remain in power and doing such things would never happen. Which is why he would never just rip the filibuster to shreds the moment a Repub is in the WH again.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:46:02pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Almost forgot to mention: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949 in Salisbury, England. Harry Truman was President of the United, States. George VI was monarch of the United Kingdom, Clement Atlee was PM. The Yankees won the World Series. Apollo 11 was 20 years in the future. Joe Biden was 6 years old and had just started school. Then, as now, Donald Trump was a toddler.

Happy birthday, fellow lizard. Congrats on surviving another trip around the burning ball of plasma!

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JOE 🥓  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:46:25pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

And a VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!!!!

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A Mom Anon  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:51:00pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Happy Birthday! I hope it was a great day for you. 🎂❤️

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:53:11pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Hey now, I’ve been assured that McConnell would never do anything of the sort because he wants to get reelected to remain in power and doing such things would never happen. Which is why he would never just rip the filibuster to shreds the moment a Repub is in the WH again.

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He had complete control of the Senate for 4 years and could have abolished it entirely but didn’t. As others have pointed out, he eliminated the filibuster in the one area he cared about — the confirmation of a Supreme Court justice; but other than that, he left it standing because the only issues of concern to him were taxes — which can be passed by a similar majority through reconciliation — and judges. If there were any non-financial legislation that mattered to him, he would have dispensed with it in a heartbeat, but to date, no such issues have ever arisen.

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2021 • 8:54:48pm

I bought an Apple Watch today. My date to the concert at Red Rocks last night talked me into it.

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Targetpractice  Jun 21, 2021 • 9:03:28pm

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

He had complete control of the Senate for 4 years and could have abolished it entirely but didn’t. As others have pointed out, he eliminated the filibuster in the one area he cared about — the confirmation of a Supreme Court justice; but other than that, he left it standing because the only issues of concern to him were taxes — which can be passed by a similar majority through reconciliation — and judges. If there were any non-financial legislation that mattered to him, he would have dispensed with it in a heartbeat, but to date, no such issues have ever arisen.

Yet the first major piece of legislation he tried to move through the Senate was not judges or taxes, it was abolishing the ACA and that failed because the filibuster required he go through the reconciliation process that left him no margin for error. The TCJA was the backup plan, passed through reconciliation while they still had another bite at the apple and even it included a swipe at the ACA by zeroing out the individual mandate in the hope that it would further undermine the law.

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Belafon  Jun 21, 2021 • 9:24:27pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 21, 2021 • 9:29:07pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 21, 2021 • 9:29:21pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 21, 2021 • 9:59:09pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 21, 2021 • 10:15:00pm

ha ha

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A Cranky One  Jun 21, 2021 • 10:24:09pm
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JC1  Jun 21, 2021 • 10:46:28pm

Adding my 2 cents to the atheism conversation:

Although I’m an atheist, and most of my friends are agnostic or atheist, if we were to make a list of the top 10 things that define us, I don’t think that atheism would be on any of our lists. It wouldn’t be in my top 50. It’s not something that comes up in conversation when we hang out. It’s just not something that we think of as part of our identify.

I think that most believers would put their faith or their god somewhere in the top 10, whether because it’s true or because of social pressure to do so.

I’ve also never heard an atheist athlete attribute their success to a lack of belief, etc.

So I do find it annoying when people try to say that atheism is just another religion. It’s really not; we don’t have services, we don’t have rituals, etc.

Like the saying goes: atheism is a religion like baldness is a hair color.

With that said, I don’t like the fact that religion gets special treatment in the US. I also don’t like that religious beliefs are somehow beyond ridicule and held up on a pedestal.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 21, 2021 • 10:51:42pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 21, 2021 • 10:54:38pm

From the wash post. Stuff we have been talking about.

Retail workers are quitting at record rates for higher-paying work: ‘My life isn’t worth a dead-end job’
Some 649,000 employees gave notice in April, the sector’s largest one-month exodus in over 20 years, a reflection of pandemic-era strains and a strengthening job market

By Abha Bhattarai
June 21, 2021 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

Retail workers, drained from the pandemic and empowered by a strengthening job market, are leaving jobs like never before.

Americans are ditching their jobs by the millions, and retail is leading the way with the largest increase in resignations of any sector. Some 649,000 retail workers put in their notice in April, the industry’s largest one-month exodus since the Labor Department began tracking such data more than 20 years ago.

Some are finding less stressful positions at insurance agencies, marijuana dispensaries, banks and local governments, where their customer service skills are rewarded with higher wages and better benefits. Others are going back to school to learn new trades, or waiting until they are able to secure reliable child care.

“It was a really dismal time, and it made me realize this isn’t worth it,” said 23-year-old Aislinn Potts of Murfreesboro, Tenn., who left her $11-an-hour job as an aquatic specialist at a national pet chain in April to focus on writing and art. “My life isn’t worth a dead-end job.”

In interviews with more than a dozen retail workers who recently left their jobs, nearly all said the pandemic introduced new strains to already challenging work: longer hours, understaffed stores, unruly customers and even pay cuts.

Why some Americans are still hesitant to get back to work
With stimulus payments and additional unemployment, some workers are reassessing when and how they’ll get back to work as the economy emerges from crisis. (Mahlia Posey/The Washington Post)
Christina Noles spent much of the pandemic working the closing shift at a dollar store — sometimes nine consecutive days without a break — for $10.25 an hour. She felt isolated, anxious and demoralized.

Last month, the 34-year-old from Concord, N.C., quit, leaving the industry she’s worked in for most of her adult life. Now she works from home for a local law firm — a job that, three days in, still seems too good to be true.

“There’s a part of me that feels like this must all be a dream,” Noles said. “There were a lot of things I liked about retail: I love talking to people and helping them, but the pandemic made me realize it was untenable.”

It’s not a ‘labor shortage.’ It’s a great reassessment of work in America.

Labor professors and economists say the pandemic also made it harder for the nation’s 15 million retail workers to find reliable child care and public transportation. But now that life is returning to normal, analysts say, workers have begun to realize they have options, capitalizing on the latest waves of hiring and government stimulus as catalyst for career change. Companies of all sizes, meanwhile, are offering a host of perks, from free appetizers to subsidized college courses, to attract and keep workers.

“We’re seeing a wider understanding that these were never good jobs and they were never livable jobs,” said Rebecca Givan, a professor of labor studies and employment relations at Rutgers University. “In many cases, the pay is below a living wage and the hours are inconsistent and insufficient. If anything, the pandemic has made retail jobs even less sustainable than they already were.”

It is too soon to tell, she said, whether the latest exodus reflects a long-term shift away from retail work. Some employees, for example, may return to the industry once child care is more readily available and other pandemic-related challenges ease, but others are turning to industries where workers are in high demand.

The seven industries most desperate for workers

Noles said she began mulling a career change after five colleagues tested positive for the coronavirus late last year. Her lucky break, she said, came on a particularly busy night when the checkout lines snaked to the back of the store. A customer in line, who was charmed by her upbeat nature and impressed that not a single customer left despite the wait, encouraged her to apply for an opening at her law firm. Noles applied in April and, a few weeks later, was offered the job as an intake specialist, earning $13 an hour, plus benefits.

With much of the country easing pandemic-era restrictions, service establishments like restaurants, gyms and salons are offering better pay and benefits to rebuild the staffs that got gutted during the crisis. Sectors like real estate, professional services, banking and insurance are also hiring — often at higher wages than retail, where median hourly pay for store employees hovers around $13 — in anticipation of renewed demand, according to Julia Pollak, a labor economist for the site ZipRecruiter.

“In a tight labor market, we often see big shifts among workers with low earnings,” she said. “If you’re making $12 an hour and there’s a job down the street offering $12.50, why not jump? There’s no reason not to — which is what’s happening now.”

Opinion: Americans’ work conditions are terrible. No wonder many don’t want to go back.

“Hiring now” signs are cropping up on storefronts big and small as retailers scramble to fill openings. Many have raised wages or benefits to keep up. Target, Best Buy, Under Armour and Kay Jewelers all recently increased starting minimums to $15 an hour, while Amazon is offering sign-on bonuses as high as $1,000 to new employees. (Amazon founder Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post.)

Overall, retailers had nearly 1 million job openings in April, more than twice as many as they did a year ago.

Millions of retail workers were let go — unknowingly permanently — early on in the pandemic as dozens of retailers tumbled into bankruptcy, shuttered locations and sometimes liquidated thousands of stores. The result was a bifurcated industry — with booming business at supermarkets, pharmacies and hardware stores, while spending on clothing and other nonessential items tanked. Now that spending patterns are evening out again, retailers are having to hire accordingly to meet demand.

What do you miss (or loathe) about working from the office? Tell The Post.

Some labor experts, though, say retailers are not going far enough in addressing structural problems in the industry. Retailers, they say, should be focusing more on stable schedules, safer working conditions and benefits like paid sick leave and vacation time.

During the pandemic, they said, many employees were also forced to take on new responsibilities, often without proper protections or adequate health-care coverage to protect them from illness. And though customers were mindful of safety restrictions early on, workers say that quickly faded, leaving them vulnerable to verbal — and sometimes physical — altercations over social distancing and mask requirements.

Chris Overland, who sold electronics at a national chain in San Antonio, took a $4-an-hour pay cut during the pandemic before finally deciding to quit last month. The 25-year-old quickly found work in construction.

“To be getting paid $10 an hour in the middle of a nationwide crisis, it just left a sour taste,” Overland said. “Now I’m doing more physical labor, but it’s better pay and I’m having a lot more fun without the stresses of retail. It feels better, mentally.”

Grocery workers, already reeling from the pandemic, face new trauma from store shootings

Jesse Rumpca quit his job at a liquor store last month to become a firefighter for the Oregon Department of Forestry. The 29-year-old, who has a degree in geography and environmental studies, took on retail work in March when most other industries weren’t hiring.

But as the pandemic wore on, he felt increasingly anxious about getting sick during shifts, sometimes double- or triple-masking. When he found in early May that he hadn’t been informed when a close colleague tested positive for the virus, he quit on the spot.

“I kept working because I had to pay bills, but it was never going to be a long-term job,” he said.

Some workers say the pandemic made their jobs logistically difficult, if not near impossible to continue.

Bob Beall, who is deaf and relies on reading body language and lip movements to communicate, left his position as a manager at a Lowe’s store in Bennington, Ill., at the beginning of the pandemic once mask requirements made it tough to understand customers.

He dipped into his retirement savings and got an associate’s degree. Now, after a 35-year career in retail, he’s embarking on a new one with a facilities maintenance job for Kohler. He’s taking a 30 percent pay cut and will be working nights, but says he’s hopeful he’s moving into a growing field with ample room to advance without the “mental fatigue” of working in a customer-facing job.

“I’m making a career change at 56, so I know how this works,” he said. “I start at the bottom and work my way back up.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 21, 2021 • 10:57:42pm

Kind of a faux pas posting whole newspaper articles as a comment.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 21, 2021 • 11:17:41pm

re: #50 JC1

Adding my 2 cents to the atheism conversation:

Although I’m an atheist, and most of my friends are agnostic or atheist, if we were to make a list of the top 10 things that define us, I don’t think that atheism would be on any of our lists. It wouldn’t be in my top 50. It’s not something that comes up in conversation when we hang out. It’s just not something that we think of as part of our identify.

I think that most believers would put their faith or their god somewhere in the top 10, whether because it’s true or because of social pressure to do so.

I’ve also never heard an atheist athlete attribute their success to a lack of belief, etc.

So I do find it annoying when people try to say that atheism is just another religion. It’s really not; we don’t have services, we don’t have rituals, etc.

You said it yourself, it’s not something you think of a lot and it’s not part of your identity. More importantly, you don’t run around trying to convince people that they should join your (anti-)faith, and you wouldn’t persecute or punish people who don’t share your (dis)belief. I don’t consider that people like you (and me) are practicing anything like a religion. (Services and rituals are not necessary to religions, they’re just more common than not.)

On the other hand, we have all sorts of examples of atheists who do “proselytize” atheism (which really isn’t subject to proof), who do join together to strengthen their (un)belief, and who have persecuted and killed others for the crime of not sharing those beliefs. Whether you call it a religion or not, such people are exhibiting the same behavior as religious fanatics have done, and I will continue to point it out.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 21, 2021 • 11:27:47pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 12:18:15am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gov. Newsom says California will pay off all the past-due rent that accumulated in the state because of the fallout from the COVID pandemic, a promise to make landlords whole while giving renters a clean slate.

This is what a “socialist hellhole” looks like, folks!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 12:25:08am

re: #50 JC1

With that said, I don’t like the fact that religion gets special treatment in the US. I also don’t like that religious beliefs are somehow beyond ridicule and held up on a pedestal.

yes, it is still heaped into that pile of things revered as “Great American Values” like motherhood, meat-based diets, ball sports and capitalism

religion is also a very sticky bundle of interconnected concepts: there is the theology, the religious practices, the social aspect, the church as a community, and religion’s influence on politics and policy.

They are hard to pull apart and discuss separately.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 22, 2021 • 12:44:53am

Tomorrow I intend to ride through Martinez, across the Martinez/Benicia Bridge and into Benicia. It will be about 25 miles overall.

Damn, I run out of pedal speed at 30, I’ll never make 65.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 22, 2021 • 1:53:12am
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Targetpractice  Jun 22, 2021 • 1:58:15am

re: #46 JOE 🥓

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The “But what if we lose the majority!” argument for retaining the filibuster is a self-fulfilling prophecy by this point. The party gets the majority, the party does all of jack and shit with that majority for fear that it is fleeting, and then loses the majority because the voters can’t see a reason to keep the majority in power. What then follows is a whole lot of recriminations and soul-searching about how the party was “too radical/progressive” when it should have been “bipartisan,” all while the opposition party is plowing forward because they don’t suffer from a constant existential crisis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 2:35:14am

re: #60 Targetpractice

Not to mention that the Democrats receive a large majority of votes casts overall, but due to gerrymandering and the disproportional nature of representation in the Senate, it works out to only the slimmest of margins.

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dharmamark  Jun 22, 2021 • 2:57:19am

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Feliz Cumpleaños!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 22, 2021 • 3:31:04am

re: #5 The Pie Overlord!

So Republicans are still in control of the Senate then. Good to know

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 22, 2021 • 3:58:58am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 4:48:10am

re: #37 Targetpractice

Hey now, I’ve been assured that McConnell would never do anything of the sort because he wants to get reelected to remain in power and doing such things would never happen. Which is why he would never just rip the filibuster to shreds the moment a Repub is in the WH again.

/////////

You really don’t understand Mitch McConnell if you think he is chomping at the bit to eliminate the filibuster. The only two things he wants to do is cut taxes for the rich and confirm judges, which is why he eliminated the filibuster only for Supreme Court Justices, since he can pass tax cuts through reconciliation. He understands the filibuster has a conservative bias. He’ll let the judges do the heavy lifting of restricting federal power, and allowing state governments to pass conservative laws.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 4:51:24am

re: #43 Targetpractice

Yet the first major piece of legislation he tried to move through the Senate was not judges or taxes, it was abolishing the ACA and that failed because the filibuster required he go through the reconciliation process that left him no margin for error. The TCJA was the backup plan, passed through reconciliation while they still had another bite at the apple and even it included a swipe at the ACA by zeroing out the individual mandate in the hope that it would further undermine the law.

Abolishing the ACA was a tax cut for the rich, and yet he didn’t abolish the filibuster to facilitate its repeal, proving the point.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 4:53:33am

re: #45 Dread Pirate Ron

Conservative men won’t get vaccinated because it turns you socialist, and they don’t want to be injected with a tracking device. fivethirtyeight.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 4:55:25am

re: #67 No Malarkey!

Conservative men won’t get vaccinated because it turns you socialist, and they don’t want to be injected with a tracking device. fivethirtyeight.com

and magnets….

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 4:59:04am

re: #54 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

You said it yourself, it’s not something you think of a lot and it’s not part of your identity. More importantly, you don’t run around trying to convince people that they should join your (anti-)faith, and you wouldn’t persecute or punish people who don’t share your (dis)belief. I don’t consider that people like you (and me) are practicing anything like a religion. (Services and rituals are not necessary to religions, they’re just more common than not.)

On the other hand, we have all sorts of examples of atheists who do “proselytize” atheism (which really isn’t subject to proof), who do join together to strengthen their (un)belief, and who have persecuted and killed others for the crime of not sharing those beliefs. Whether you call it a religion or not, such people are exhibiting the same behavior as religious fanatics have done, and I will continue to point it out.

Only the ones belonging to the cult of Marxism, which has a lot in common with religion, and viewed other religions as competitors. Atheism, in and of itself, has no articles of faith requiring such behavior.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:01:25am

re: #69 No Malarkey!

Only the ones belonging to the cult of Marxism, which has a lot in common with religion, and viewed other religions as competitors. Atheism, in and of itself, has no articles of faith requiring such behavior.

Marxism stems from a time when the established churches (whether Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant Christian) actively supported its mortal enemies, namely the authoritarian regimes it was trying to overthrow.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:04:07am

re: #60 Targetpractice

The “But what if we lose the majority!” argument for retaining the filibuster is a self-fulfilling prophecy by this point. The party gets the majority, the party does all of jack and shit with that majority for fear that it is fleeting, and then loses the majority because the voters can’t see a reason to keep the majority in power. What then follows is a whole lot of recriminations and soul-searching about how the party was “too radical/progressive” when it should have been “bipartisan,” all while the opposition party is plowing forward because they don’t suffer from a constant existential crisis.

I agree with this. The argument that the Democrats have to keep the filibuster to prevent the GOP from passing laws if they gain the majority infuriates me, because if a party runs on issues and wins the majority, they should get to pass laws. When people vote for change and nothing happens because our system is designed for gridlock, it undermines democracy, because at that point, why even bother to vote?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:13:42am

re: #71 No Malarkey!

I agree with this. The argument that the Democrats have to keep the filibuster to prevent the GOP from passing laws if they gain the majority infuriates me, because if a party runs on issues and wins the majority, they should get to pass laws. When people vote for change and nothing happens because our system is designed for gridlock, it undermines democracy, because at that point, why even bother to vote?

apathy and indifference are the most effective forms of voter suppression.

and that is why the GOP strategy that worked so well in 2016 failed in 2020…

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darthstar  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:16:04am

Good luck with that recall, Caitlin…

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:19:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:21:40am

re: #74 Belafon

“The full diversity of America is on display among the new citizens and visitors who stopped by to watch. There is a Vietnam veteran, an Amish family, Muslim families, active duty military, cowboys, a man in a Trump outfit, and people of all races+cultural backgrounds.”

Tucker Carlson and his “replacement theory” would have us believe that immigrants are all being brought in to become Democrats…

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:32:27am

So, out of that bunch, Eminem? Fatboy Slim? Fiona Apple? Gillian Welch? Patty Griffin?

Who am I kidding? It’s going to be Nickelback!

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jeffreyw  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:32:29am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:34:09am

re: #77 jeffreyw

Good morning!

That was always more of a 3am meal back the days, but yeah, looks delicious!

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:36:58am
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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:38:13am

Carl Nassib, a defensive player for the Las Angeles Raiders, came out as gay.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:40:59am

In a related item, Trump’s indicating that he has no interest in being Speaker of the House.

Umm… yeah.. because that’d be actual work, and he is supremely unqualified for the job because he doesn’t know what to do, how to do the job of legislating, or counting.

The GOP is so broken that they are floating Trump for key government offices because there’s no one else. It’s a fucking authoritarian cult and everyone else is seen as a sycophantic suckup, and not the genuine thing.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:49:09am

re: #76 lawhawk

Belle and Sebastian nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? That’s….interesting.

I’d rather see Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds get nominated myself.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:51:46am

Today is the final day of the NYC primary election (early votes have been underway for the past two weeks). It’s also the first time ranked choice voting has been implemented in NYC, so it’s not entirely clear who will come out ahead.

I’m not in NYC, but if I had to rank my choices, I’d put Garcia, Adams, Stringer, and Wiley in the top 4 slots for the D nomination. I wouldn’t consider Yang at all.

For the GOP, your choice is the bugnut insane Mateo or slightly less crazy Curtis Sliwa.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:58:29am
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jeffreyw  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:58:42am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was always more of a 3am meal back the days, but yeah, looks delicious!

That was breakfast for dinner the other day.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2021 • 5:59:46am

re: #71 No Malarkey!

I agree with this. The argument that the Democrats have to keep the filibuster to prevent the GOP from passing laws if they gain the majority infuriates me, because if a party runs on issues and wins the majority, they should get to pass laws. When people vote for change and nothing happens because our system is designed for gridlock, it undermines democracy, because at that point, why even bother to vote?

Unfortunately, thanks to gerrymandering for House seats, Democrats can win a majority of votes but still lose control of the House, and thanks to the Constitution, Democrats get a majority of votes for Senate seats, but might not get control of the Senate, and get a majority of votes for the President, but lose the Presidency. GOP voter suppression exacerbates the situation. So even without the filibuster, Democrats are handicapped in the modern world.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:01:59am

Former President Donald Trump and his health secretary, Alex Azar, are quoted in a new book, Nightmare Scenario on coronavirus testing at the start of the pandemic.

TRUMP: I’m going to lose the election because of testing! What idiot had the federal government do testing?

AZAR: Uh, do you mean Jared?

;-)

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:04:30am

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, thanks to gerrymandering for House seats, Democrats can win a majority of votes but still lose control of the House, and thanks to the Constitution, Democrats get a majority of votes for Senate seats, but might not get control of the Senate, and get a majority of votes for the President, but lose the Presidency. GOP voter suppression exacerbates the situation. So even without the filibuster, Democrats are handicapped in the modern world.

But the Democrats could pass a voting rights act banning gerrymandering if the filibuster didn’t exist.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:06:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:07:22am

re: #81 lawhawk

“Trump in 2024” is another way of saying “believe it or not, Republicans don’t have anyone better.”

It is their way of saying “We can’t win without the support of the rabid Trump base that is tied directly to the Trump Cult of Personality.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:07:44am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“The full diversity of America is on display among the new citizens and visitors who stopped by to watch. There is a Vietnam veteran, an Amish family, Muslim families, active duty military, cowboys, a man in a Trump outfit, and people of all races+cultural backgrounds.”

Tucker Carlson and his “replacement theory” would have us believe that immigrants are all being brought in to become Democrats…

Is the man in the Trump outfit a new citizen or one of the visitors who stopped by to watch the ceremony?

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:09:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:11:00am

re: #92 lawhawk

I think it is more a view based on “Dogs are property, and only owners have rights.”

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:12:21am
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steve_davis  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:12:46am

re: #82 Eric The Fruit Bat

Belle and Sebastian nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? That’s….interesting.

I’d rather see Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds get nominated myself.

I understand Belle & Sebastian. No idea why Gillian Welch would be on that list, as good as she is. Maybe I need to listen to more than her Revelator album.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:14:42am

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Almost forgot to mention: Today is my birthday. Born this day in 1949 in Salisbury, England. Harry Truman was President of the United, States. George VI was monarch of the United Kingdom, Clement Atlee was PM. The Yankees won the World Series. Apollo 11 was 20 years in the future. Joe Biden was 6 years old and had just started school. Then, as now, Donald Trump was a toddler.

Back then it wss normal for him to act that way

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:14:59am

re: #82 Eric The Fruit Bat

You can get nominated 25 years after first album. That’s it. It’s a very low bar.

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darthstar  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:18:19am

re: #97 lawhawk

You can get nominated 25 years after first album. That’s it. It’s a very low bar.

They should probably just rename it the “Popular Music Hall of Fame” and let everyone in who had a top 40 hit.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:19:18am

re: #98 darthstar

They should probably just rename it the “Popular Music Hall of Fame” and let everyone in who had a top 40 hit.

American Music Hall of Fame. It’s not rock and roll. That’s always bothered me, especially as they induct people from other genres (rightfully so).

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:19:22am
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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:20:10am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gov. Newsom says California will pay off all the past-due rent that accumulated in the state because of the fallout from the COVID pandemic, a promise to make landlords whole while giving renters a clean slate.

This is what a “socialist hellhole” looks like, folks!

Texas could pay off all the winter electric grid disaster bills

Who am I kidding, it’s Texas

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:22:01am

re: #101 Dangerman

Texas could pay off all the winter electric grid disaster bills

Who am I kidding, it’s Texas

Just wait till the TexASS grid fails this summer and those folks get another set of astronomical utility bills!

But they still get to strut around with their Iron Penises!

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danarchy  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:22:10am

re: #98 darthstar

They should probably just rename it the “Popular Music Hall of Fame” and let everyone in who had a top 40 hit.

Yeah, I mean Erykah Badu is great and all but she really doesn’t evoke “Rock n Roll”

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:22:43am

re: #92 lawhawk

Abbot realizes that men who abuse dogs are an obvious GQP constituency.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:23:43am

re: #69 No Malarkey!

Only the ones belonging to the cult of Marxism, which has a lot in common with religion, and viewed other religions as competitors. Atheism, in and of itself, has no articles of faith requiring such behavior.

There are lots of things in this life that I am not.
Believing in God is just one.

None of the things I don’t believe in have monthly meetings

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:25:46am

re: #81 lawhawk

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The GOP is so broken that they are floating Trump for key government offices because there’s no one else. It’s a fucking authoritarian cult and everyone else is seen as a sycophantic suckup, and not the genuine thing.

Plus wrt speaker, there is no DOJ memo saying the speaker can’t be indicted

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:26:08am

re: #101 Dangerman

Texas could pay off all the winter electric grid disaster bills

Who am I kidding, it’s Texas

Texas Gov. Abbott, instead of dealing with the ERCOT and GOP legislature that botched and mismanaged the power grid, has decided to fleece GOPers by calling on them to donate to build the wall on the border. They wont do anything to fix the power grid, but will support building a boondoggle wall.

Priorities.

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danarchy  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:29:10am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Gov. Newsom says California will pay off all the past-due rent that accumulated in the state because of the fallout from the COVID pandemic, a promise to make landlords whole while giving renters a clean slate.

This is what a “socialist hellhole” looks like, folks!

Right wing talking point I am sure:

“Are you going to pay back all the suckers who spent their entire savings so they could keep paying their rent while their slacker neighbors collected thousands in unemployment and just pocketed it while not paying rent because of the moratorium”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:30:52am

re: #108 danarchy

Right wing talking point I am sure:

“Are you going to pay back all the suckers who spent their entire savings so they could keep paying their rent while their slacker neighbors collected thousands in unemployment and just pocketed it while not paying rent because of the moratorium”

same talking point concerning student debt forgiveness

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:31:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:32:25am

Looks like there’s still a lot of vaccine hesitancy out there….

Young Americans are less likely to get vaccinated against COVID-19 than their elders, a new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study showed.

By May 22, 2021, 57.0% of adults had received at least one vaccine dose, the study said. But coverage was highest among those 65 and older (80%) while it was lowest among those 18-29 years old (38.3%).

Nearly 25% of the latter age group reported that they probably or definitely would not get vaccinated, while 23% were unsure. Their biggest questions: concerns about vaccine safety and effectiveness, a second study said.

Adults aged 18-39 years with lower incomes, lower educational attainment, without health insurance, who were non-Hispanic Black adults who lived in suburbs areas had the lowest reported vaccination coverage and intent to get vaccinated, the study added.

eu.usatoday.com

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:48:13am

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:49:13am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

Nearly all of those who are getting sick, getting hospitalized, and dying, are unvaccinated.

The one way to avoid those outcomes is to get vaccinated. It breaks the transmission routes and makes it safer for everyone else, especially those who cannot get vaccinated because of medical reasons or because the vaccine is not yet approved for children under 12.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:50:02am

re: #113 lawhawk

Nearly all of those who are getting sick, getting hospitalized, and dying, are unvaccinated.

a real no-brainer, huh?

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:52:02am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a real no-brainer, huh?

Won’t stop the MAGATS from flaunting their stupidity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 6:53:41am

re: #115 JOE 🥓

Won’t stop the MAGATS from flaunting their stupidity.

at least now that vaccination is more widespread, they are not taking as many others with them when they get sick and die.

and if they don’t die, at least they have some immunity

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:00:12am
“I never used the word concede. I have not conceded. There is a tremendous percentage that thinks the election was rigged and stolen.”

— Donald Trump, quoted by the Dallas Morning News, disputing that he admitted last week that Joe Biden won the election

Asshat

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:01:58am

re: #117 Dangerman

“I never used the word concede. I have not conceded. There is a tremendous percentage that thinks the election was rigged and stolen.”

Trump is used to saying whatever comes to mind regardless of anything else he has said and now that he does not have a Press Secretary and staff to cover and explain what he “really meant”, he realized that he needs to backtrack a bit.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:02:40am

re: #113 lawhawk

Nearly all of those who are getting sick, getting hospitalized, and dying, are unvaccinated.

The one way to avoid those outcomes is to get vaccinated. It breaks the transmission routes and makes it safer for everyone else, especially those who cannot get vaccinated because of medical reasons or because the vaccine is not yet approved for children under 12.

You can’t fix stupid?
Covid does.
One way or the another

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darthstar  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:13:05am

re: #119 Dangerman

You can’t fix stupid?
Covid does.
One way or the another

Hey, it got memed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:14:09am

re: #119 Dangerman

You can’t fix stupid?
Covid does.
One way or the another

again, the only problem is that they infect people on their way to the ER…

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darthstar  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:15:46am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, the only problem is that they infect mostly other stupid people on their way to the ER…

fify

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:17:49am

re: #122 darthstar

fify

unfortunately, there are still people who are not stupid but not vaccinated.

If there were no overlap, I would be fine with the bastards infecting each other.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:23:31am

re: #120 darthstar

Hey, it got memed.

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That was fast ;-)
I didn’t get it from there

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:24:47am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

unfortunately, there are still people who are not stupid but not vaccinated.

If there were no overlap, I would be fine with the bastards infecting each other.

I like to hope that smart and as yet unvaccinated people still take precautions and protect themselves.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:24:58am

re: #99 lawhawk

American Music Hall of Fame. It’s not rock and roll. That’s always bothered me, especially as they induct people from other genres (rightfully so).

Is it even “American” music since there are a lot of foreign acts inducted?

So more of a “Arbitrarily Selected Music Popular in America Hall of Fame”?

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:27:15am

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It’s acts that did a thing in America. So, the Rolling Stones or Beatles had number 1 hits here, so that makes it a thing in America.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:29:50am
A new Des Moines Register poll finds President Joe Biden’s approval rating among Iowans is underwater six months into his term in office, with 43% approving of the job he is doing and 52% disapproving

Not surprising

But I bet not 10 individuals could explain what Biden has actually done specifically and exactly that merits their disapproval.

merely not being a R doesn’t count

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:36:08am

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So more of a “Arbitrarily Selected Music Popular in America Hall of Fame”?

Yep, it’s basically about money and whether or not the people who vote like you.

That’s why Rage Against the Machine has been left out for years when they should be in there.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:38:54am
New York prosecutors are investigating whether a top Trump Organization executive, Matthew Calamari, received tax-free fringe benefits, as part of their probe into whether former President Donald Trump’s company and its employees illegally avoided paying taxes on such perks,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

Shamelessly stolen: trump was involved in a squid-pro-quo!!

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:40:28am

re: #130 Dangerman

GET OUT!

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danarchy  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:41:32am

re: #129 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, it’s basically about money and whether or not the people who vote like you.

That’s why Rage Against the Machine has been left out for years when they should be in there.

Who is more Rock and Roll than Motley Crue and they haven’t been inducted either.

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:41:49am

re: #130 Dangerman

Shamelessly stolen: trump was involved in a squid-pro-quo!!

Dr. Manhattan can’t be reached for comment. He’s on Europa.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:42:58am

And it’s TexASS again!

A Beaumont physician is resigning from his position following a controversial Facebook post from last week.

The racially charged comments posted to his Facebook page attacked the Black community as well as local city officials including City Councilman Audwin Samuel and newly elected Beaumont Mayor Robin Mouton.

One of the posts said, “Give me one reason why councilman like Samuel should represent city of Beaumont, and the same applies to a Mouton!”

The posts also refer to President Joe Biden as an “idiot imposter,” and even disparage Pope Francis.

12newsnow.com

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:52:29am

Ex-Marine and Neo-Nazi Told Followers How to Shoot Truckers to Dismantle Supply Chain

The four-year military veteran, who recently encouraged his followers to move to Maine to start a white ethnostate, said his comments were showing a hypothetical scenario where 25 shooters could bring the U.S. “to its knees.”

vice.com

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:52:30am

re: #132 danarchy

Who is more Rock and Roll than Motley Crue and they haven’t been inducted either.

Well, I’d say lots of people but that’s a taste issue. Now Blue Oyster Cult OTOH, that’s REAL rock and they aren’t in there either.

Blue Oyster Cult - Astronomy - Some Enchanted Evening

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:54:06am

re: #77 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Just a pretty rock
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:54:17am

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Is it even “American” music since there are a lot of foreign acts inducted?

So more of a “Arbitrarily Selected Music Popular in America Hall of Fame”?

Remember, this is a commercial enterprise, not a Public or Civic Institution.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:55:57am
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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:56:00am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, this is a commercial enterprise, not a Public or Civic Institution.

Agreed but …

The Snub List

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:56:32am

re: #131 Sufficient unto the day…

GET OUT!

ok, but i’m takin’ the cannoli

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 7:57:04am

re: #135 JOE 🥓

Ex-Marine and Neo-Nazi Told Followers How to Shoot Truckers to Dismantle Supply Chain

The four-year military veteran, who recently encouraged his followers to move to Maine to start a white ethnostate, said his comments were showing a hypothetical scenario where 25 shooters could bring the U.S. “to its knees.”

vice.com

This is what their malevolent, adolescent FPS game-based fever dreams are all about…

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:00:15am

re: #135 JOE 🥓

Ex-Marine and Neo-Nazi Told Followers How to Shoot Truckers to Dismantle Supply Chain

The four-year military veteran, who recently encouraged his followers to move to Maine to start a white ethnostate, said his comments were showing a hypothetical scenario where 25 shooters could bring the U.S. “to its knees.”

vice.com

Drunk, stupid and played too many video games. His chill’en try that, they’ll be eating hellfire missiles shortly thereafter.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:07:22am

re: #143 William Lewis

Drunk, stupid and played too many video games. His chill’en try that, they’ll be eating hellfire missiles shortly thereafter.

Yeah, like if that started happening we would all throw up our hands and just declare “nothing we can do!”. Rather there would be a huge manhunt for these scum and the outcome would not be to their liking.

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danarchy  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:09:43am

re: #143 William Lewis

Drunk, stupid and played too many video games. His chill’en try that, they’ll be eating hellfire missiles shortly thereafter.

Speaking of playing too many video games… the chance of hellfire missiles being employed in the US in a law enforcement capacity are probably pretty close to 0.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:12:47am

re: #145 danarchy

Speaking of playing too many video games… the chance of hellfire missiles being employed in the US in a law enforcement capacity are probably pretty close to 0.

Call it an insurrection and fire away because then it’s a military matter not law enforcement.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:23:33am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

“So, like they’re doing in Republican states, Sinema, and the federal government is the only authority that can stop them?”

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:24:32am

re: #145 danarchy

MOVE bombing didn’t require hellfire missiles. They just dropped explosives on a block of housing in Philadelphia and it killed 11 people.

Philly police dropped a satchel bomb of explosives and it set an entire block aflame.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:24:43am

re: #145 danarchy

Speaking of playing too many video games… the chance of hellfire missiles being employed in the US in a law enforcement capacity are probably pretty close to 0.

Them fucking with the money from commerce of big businesses delivering goods. All the might of the government would be unleashed. Even the repukes would be for it since it would be an attempt to destroy the cash flow of corporations, thus their own cash flow.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:28:08am

re: #128 Dangerman

Not surprising

But I bet not 10 individuals could explain what Biden has actually done specifically and exactly that merits their disapproval.

merely not being a R doesn’t count

Point one would probably be “opening the border to drug cartels and terrorists.”

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No Malarkey!  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:29:16am
152
Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:31:51am
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danarchy  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:39:41am

re: #148 lawhawk

MOVE bombing didn’t require hellfire missiles. They just dropped explosives on a block of housing in Philadelphia and it killed 11 people.

Philly police dropped a satchel bomb of explosives and it set an entire block aflame.

And decades later it is still held up as an example of the most egregious government overreach.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:41:37am

re: #152 Belafon

500,000 deaths in Brazil: massive protests calling for President’s resignation

600,000 deaths in US: still debating whether it’s all a hoax or not President is going to be reinstated in August

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ericblair  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:42:13am

Some headline writer can now die happy.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:42:32am

re: #150 No Malarkey!

Point one would probably be “opening the border to drug cartels and terrorists.”

then im gonna say (to them) show your proof.
cartels and terrorists.
not people, refugees, children, etc.

what specific actions did the admin take.

i know it’s all silly. because this kind of disapproval so early on is a priori and visceral. not based on reality or anything concrete.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:44:07am

re: #155 ericblair

[Embedded content]

Some headline writer can now die happy.

sure but i get booted out for squid-pro-quo…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:44:48am

re: #155 ericblair

…and if the squid is eating dough in a polythene bag, then it’s fast and bulbous!

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:48:35am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:50:14am

re: #159 Belafon

The GOP might consider that last one as positive thing.
////

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 8:52:07am

re: #160 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The GOP might consider that last one as positive thing.
////

I was going to make a statement along the lines of “and some people will never notice.”

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:01:33am

Dying at that white woman Instagram.

Dying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:06:31am

re: #162 HRH Stanley Sea

Dying at that white woman Instagram.

Dying.

Watched that Bo Burnham special with my daughter last week.

Kind of dragged out at 90 minutes, but it had an hour’s worth of good material in it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:07:09am

re: #159 Belafon

Here in Czech Republic, my initial speculation that about 45% of the overall population would decline vaccination has pretty much turned out correct. It’s almost all from people under 50. If the Delta variant takes hold, yikes, we could be looking at a very serious problem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:11:05am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

Here in Czech Republic, my initial speculation that about 45% of the overall population would decline vaccination has pretty much turned out correct. It’s almost all from people under 50. If the Delta variant takes hold, yikes, we could be looking at a very serious problem.

I am still somewhat concerned that a variant could develop that is resistant to current vaccines and we will find ourselves chasing our tails.

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danarchy  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:12:16am

So it appears fox news has decided to go all in on the crime is exploding because of all the defund the police liberals, and bail reform an liberal DAs. Just showing videos of shootings and stabbings ad nauseum this morning.

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Teukka  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:12:29am

:Snickers:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:13:52am

re: #166 danarchy

So it appears fox news has decided to go all in on the crime is exploding because of all the defund the police liberals, and bail reform an liberal DAs. Just showing videos of shootings and stabbings ad nauseum this morning.

It is a matter of doctrine that liberals want to legalize petty crime while making it illegal to enforce the law.

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gocart mozart  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:15:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:18:44am

re: #169 gocart mozart

Jim Crow was the centrist bipartisan compromise between slavery and freedom.

It was part of the compromise resulting from the disputed Presidential election of 1876. The South assented to Rutherford B. Hayes and in exchange, they got free hand in how to deal with their native black populations without interference from the North.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:22:32am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am still somewhat concerned that a variant could develop that is resistant to current vaccines and we will find ourselves chasing our tails.

Here, at least, they won’t be able to do much; the courts have repeatedly ruled that the measures taken to combat COVID-19 (closures, restriction of movement, etc.) are straight-up illegal and unconstitutional. So I figure if it comes around again this autumn/winter, the government will just say, “Fuck it. You’re on your own, folks, so…good luck!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:23:32am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

Here, at least, they won’t be able to do much; the courts have repeatedly ruled that the measures taken to combat COVID-19 (closures, restriction of movement, etc.) are straight-up illegal and unconstitutional. So I figure if it comes around again this autumn/winter, the government will just say, “Fuck it. You’re on your own, folks, so…good luck!”

Herd immunity one way or the other?

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plansbandc  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:26:47am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure that’s going to happen in the states too. I don’t think anyone is going to obey another stay at home order. And maybe 40 percent of us will mask up. (Generous percentage)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:26:49am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Herd immunity one way or the other?

Yep, that’s the plan. And pension reform to boot! /s

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:27:21am

re: #166 danarchy

So it appears fox news has decided to go all in on the crime is exploding because of all the defund the police liberals, and bail reform an liberal DAs. Just showing videos of shootings and stabbings ad nauseum this morning.

can they point to any police force that was actually “defunded”?

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:28:32am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I love a Captain Beefheart quote….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:30:01am

re: #175 Dangerman

can they point to any police force that was actually “defunded”?

And those Portland police officers who “retired” did not quit the force, just the Riot Response Squad.

But the underlying threat/message is that our white neighborhoods are going to be left defenseless against marauding gangs of vengeance-seeking BLM thugs.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:30:49am

Relatives cheering in Facebook that Biden will miss the 7/4 immunization goal…

I just SMGDH how Xtianity turned them into malignant assholes.

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steve_davis  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:31:10am

re: #140 William Lewis

Agreed but …

The Snub List

It took Rush 14 years to be inducted. The greatest prog rock band of all time. Better than Yes, and Yes, was damned fine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:31:49am

re: #179 steve_davis

It took Rush 14 years to be inducted. The greatest prog rock band of all time. Better than Yes, and Yes, was damned fine.

Never liked Rush.

Matter of taste, I guess.

That or being unable to walk down a dormitory hall at Indiana University in 1976/77 without hearing 2112 blasting from behind any number of towel-stuffed doorways.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:32:48am

re: #159 Belafon

Alarming Covid study suggests long-term loss of gray matter and other brain tissue, even among people who were asymptomatic.

(From their webpage)
*Important Notice
medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:32:53am

re: #178 JOE 🥓

Relatives cheering in Facebook that Biden will miss the 7/4 immunization goal…

I just SMGDH how Xtianity turned them into malignant assholes.

1. miss by how much
2. and why

I’m still at if this is your best criticism of the admin response to covid….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:33:45am

re: #182 Dangerman

1. miss by how much
2. and why

I’m still at if this is your best criticism of the admin response to covid….

2. not for lack of availability

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:34:18am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Neither did I.

Why aren’t Harry Nillsson and Warren Zevon in the Hall of Fame….shenanigans….

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:35:18am

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:37:49am

re: #173 plansbandc

I’m pretty sure that’s going to happen in the states too. I don’t think anyone is going to obey another stay at home order. And maybe 40 percent of us will mask up. (Generous percentage)

Blue states and blue areas of blue states probably would. (I am confident that our six-county group will — unnecessarily, since we’ll be protected by the vaccine.) So there’s that.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:38:55am

re: #175 Dangerman

can they point to any police force that was actually “defunded”?

One city did — can’t remember which one offhand.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:40:29am

re: #178 JOE 🥓

Relatives cheering in Facebook that Biden will miss the 7/4 immunization goal…

I just SMGDH how Xtianity turned them into malignant assholes.

“Yay, Biden won’t reach his goal of 70% of Americans getting vaccinated. Let’s party.”

“His goal was so you could party.”

“Yes, but we’re going to celebrate his failure.”

“Around 1% of those now in the hospital are unvaccinated, and with the delta variant being so contagious, you really should get vaccinated.”

“And let him win? No way. We’re going to party.”

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plansbandc  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:41:23am

re: #186 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I think even some blue states would balk at it. Our Governor would definitely try to close us down, but I just don’t think most people would do the whole thing again.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:41:53am

re: #182 Dangerman

1. miss by how much
2. and why

I’m still at if this is your best criticism of the admin response to covid….

The why is red states.

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Belafon  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:42:58am

Got a contact from HR that someone tried to file an unemployment claim under my name. Luckily, most of the reporting stuff is online.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:43:33am

re: #189 plansbandc

I think even some blue states would balk at it. Our Governor would definitely try to close us down, but I just don’t think most people would do the whole thing again.

Will we need to do the whole thing again? We know much better now what spreads the virus and what doesn’t, and can be much more specific in measures taken.

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Dangerman  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:44:09am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

2. not for lack of availability

watch all the wingers get vaxxed on 7/5.
we denied Biden his victory….

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steve_davis  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:49:27am

re: #173 plansbandc

I’m pretty sure that’s going to happen in the states too. I don’t think anyone is going to obey another stay at home order. And maybe 40 percent of us will mask up. (Generous percentage)

Unless there is strong evidence that the fully vaccinated are in danger from the variants, then fuck it, I’m not masking up again. I spent a year in those goddamned things, teaching kids in their goddamned things. Not doing it again.

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piratedan  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:50:18am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

agree, a lot of the artists on the snub list aren’t my favorites but I can rise above that and note how influential many of them were to Rock and Roll and support their inclusion…

funny how Big Star is listed but Badfinger and Raspberries are not… (speaking from a Power Pop perspective).

My own desires would see Pat Benatar, Blue Oyster Cult, New Order/Joy Division and Siouxsie and the Banshees included, if not only for their content (which was plenty) but also as much for who they inspired and trends that they set.

and to be fair, with who has been inducted, it should be the Popular Music HOF, not Rock and Roll but labelling has always been problematic imho.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:50:21am

re: #190 Belafon

We likely won’t reach it, but we’ll come pretty close if trends continue. (Please do not clutter up this thread with posts about “that won’t matter to wingnuts.” I know that.)

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Mike Lamb  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:52:42am

re: #173 plansbandc

I’m pretty sure that’s going to happen in the states too. I don’t think anyone is going to obey another stay at home order. And maybe 40 percent of us will mask up. (Generous percentage)

Wife and I made the decision this morning that we will get our 7 year old vaccinated as soon as there is authorization to do so. Delta variant is no joke.

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mmmirele  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:54:04am

Just sent to Kyrsten Sinema via her website:

Dear Senator Sinema:

As a constituent, I find your defense of the filibuster to be completely unbelievable. I know you want to be a “maverick” like John McCain, but the fact is, your defense of a procedural tactic that has been used in the past to suppress voting and other rights is odious. The reality is the current GOP is not going to work with anyone, and they have it in their heads they will destroy anything that Joe Biden and the Democratic party will set out to do. There is no reasoning with a bunch of people led by Mitch McConnell, who is quite clear on what he intends NOT to do.

You do your constituents exactly ZERO favors when you support the filibuster, because the filibuster is only used to suppress legislation extending and protecting rights. I just celebrated my birthday. On my 4th birthday, after a 54 day filibuster, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed out of the Senate. That there is the legacy of the filibuster—used to stop important legislation dead in its tracks. (Why yes, I was born on Juneteenth.)

I am telling you that if you do not start representing US, your constituents, you WILL be primaried in 2024. We’re tired of you prancing around and curtseying to Mitch McConnell.

Deana M. Holmes

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:56:22am

Well, if this doesn’t cause a crap load of twitter meltdowns nothing will

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:58:10am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am still somewhat concerned that a variant could develop that is resistant to current vaccines and we will find ourselves chasing our tails.

Probably be booster time come December.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2021 • 9:58:40am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Never liked Rush.

Matter of taste, I guess.

That or being unable to walk down a dormitory hall at Indiana University in 1976/77 without hearing 2112 blasting from behind any number of towel-stuffed doorways.

Later albums were much much better than 2112. I’d still prefer Yes overall but moments like “Time Stand Still” from 1987’s Hold Your Fire show them in a far better light.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:00:17am

re: #178 JOE 🥓

Relatives cheering in Facebook that Biden will miss the 7/4 immunization goal…

I just SMGDH how Xtianity turned them into malignant assholes.

Isn’t that kind of like cheering your neighbors house burning down KNOWING you were the one who disconnected the hydrant?

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lawhawk  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:01:44am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a real no-brainer, huh?

Yes, for those who can get vaccinated it is.

That herd immunity helps protect those who can’t get vaccinated, like children under 12, those with clear medical issues like immunocompromised, cancer patients, etc.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:03:08am

re: #198 mmmirele

Just sent to Kyrsten Sinema via her website:

If she doesn’t support passing the voting rights bills by any means necessary, she won’t need to worry about being primaried — AZ repugs will nullify any election a dem wins.

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William Lewis  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:04:29am

re: #198 mmmirele

Nice but she probably cares as little as when I send messages to the Traitor Johnson.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:10:50am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Never liked Rush.

Matter of taste, I guess.

That or being unable to walk down a dormitory hall at Indiana University in 1976/77 without hearing 2112 blasting from behind any number of towel-stuffed doorways.

My distaste for Rush developed due to a roommate who blasted it constantly and sang (poorly) along with it. Compounded by him quieting for a bit, and then starting up again within 10-15 minutes when asked to pipe down since I was trying to study. Compounded further by realizing later (while the relationship was going sour) that he had started doing it on purpose simply to annoy me.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:15:01am

re: #206 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My distaste for Rush developed due to a roommate who blasted it constantly and sang (poorly) along with it. Compounded by him quieting for a bit, and then starting up again within 10-15 minutes when asked to pipe down since I was trying to study. Compounded further by realizing later (while the relationship was going sour) that he had started doing it on purpose simply to annoy me.

Count your blessings.

You didn’t have to deal with The Starland Vocal Band singing “Afternoon Delight” and hearing it endlessly in 1976 while you were trying to study and write term papers.

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piratedan  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:18:50am

re: #207 JOE 🥓

we all have our crosses to bear, I came of age during the heyday of Disco, so if I never hear another Bee-Gees or Barry Manilow rendition, that would be acceptable to me. Sometimes it’s hard to reconcile that while I was putting up with that, I was able to console myself with ELO, Boston, The Cars, Toto, Elvis Costello and Blondie… thankfully we’re allowed to reach out and discover music that moves us

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:20:49am

Wouldn’t want people alarmed. They might protect themselves from a deadly disease instead of going shopping.

In 2020 Marc Short, the chief of staff to then-Vice President Mike Pence, made a fateful decision that paved the way for the politicization of wearing masks. Had he chosen differently there’s no question countless lives could have been saved.

Short, who once served as the executive director of the far right Young America’s Foundation, “focused on the political and economic implications of the coronavirus response and approached many public health decisions by considering how they would be perceived,” The Washington Post reveals. That report comes from a deep-dive into the Trump pandemic response detailed in the new book, “Nightmare Scenario: Inside the Trump Administration’s Response to the Pandemic That Changed History,” by Washington Post journalists Yasmeen Abutaleb and Damian Paletta.

In possibly the most damaging of those decisions, Short nixed a plan, which was far along enough to have a PR campaign already created, to send face masks to every household in America. The Dept. of Health and Human Services was backing the program, while other reports have revealed the U.S. Postal Service was also working on it.

If it had been executed, “some public health experts think [it] would have depoliticized mask-wearing,” The Post reports, but Short believed it “would unnecessarily alarm people.”

Pence Chief of Staff Made Decision on Masks That Paved the Way for Them to Be Politicized - Leading to Massive Death (TNCR)

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JOE 🥓  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:21:48am

re: #208 piratedan

we all have our crosses to bear, I came of age during the heyday of Disco, so if I never hear another Bee-Gees or Barry Manilow rendition, that would be acceptable to me. Sometimes it’s hard to reconcile that while I was putting up with that, I was able to console myself with ELO, Boston, The Cars, Toto, Elvis Costello and Blondie… thankfully we’re allowed to reach out and discover music that moves us

The worst Disco was this…

Ethel Merman Disco Album “There’s no business like show business”.m4v

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piratedan  Jun 22, 2021 • 10:23:48am

re: #198 mmmirele

I called her local Tucson office and got the Voice Mail message (so I left one), which is better than the lines being busy and not getting thru at all.


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