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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 23, 2021 • 6:56:20pm

Liam Neeson latest movie. Looks intense as hell. Unfortunately it’s a Netflix production.

The Ice Road.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2021 • 6:56:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 23, 2021 • 6:58:33pm
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JOE 🥓  Jun 23, 2021 • 6:59:25pm

Oh my Cookie Puss is smoking!

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:02:08pm
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:04:05pm

how in the unbridled relentless fuck is it only Wednesday?

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Dopamine Fish  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:06:10pm

re: #6 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

how in the unbridled relentless fuck is it only Wednesday?

Funny, I was just thinking about how quickly this week has been going by. Maybe it’s because I’m enjoying the quiet of being in a mostly empty office too much.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:08:00pm

Memories of riding the Lincoln Highway (Rt. 30) in Pennsylvania and seeing the famous Noah’s Ark Hotel where you could see Maryland, West Virginia’s panhandle and Pennsylvania…until it burned down in 2001…

roadsideamerica.com

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No Malarkey!  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:14:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:22:28pm

re: #9 No Malarkey!

Don’t call them 🐑 though.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:25:26pm

re: #8 JOE 🥓

Memories of riding the Lincoln Highway (Rt. 30) in Pennsylvania and seeing the famous Noah’s Ark Hotel where you could see Maryland, West Virginia’s panhandle and Pennsylvania…until it burned down in 2001…

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roadsideamerica.com

I remember driving by that in the late-80s since I’d often drive that stretch of US-30 when traveling between DC and Pittsburgh and not wanting to use the turnpike. (Due to tolls and lots of trucks on the turnpike, plus US-30 being more fun of a drive to do along with cheaper gas prices.)

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Dangerman  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:33:32pm

re: #11 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I remember driving by that in the late-80s since I’d often drive that stretch of US-30 when traveling between DC and Pittsburgh and not wanting to use the turnpike. (Due to tolls and lots of trucks on the turnpike, plus US-30 being more fun of a drive to do along with cheaper gas prices.)

now and then we’d stop at the “real” Roadside America Indoor Miniature Village in shartylsville

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:36:25pm

re: #9 No Malarkey!

Mr. Sykes shows another example of this sort of phenomenon he calls “shark attack politics” right at the end of the article.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:37:03pm

Foxnooz vs. the U.S. military.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:37:31pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Don’t call them 🐑 though.

Every single one of them. It takes nothing to brainwash willing listeners who are searching for some “greater” purpose to serve, especially when the purpose aligns with their pre-existing biases.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:39:10pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:40:33pm

re: #6 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

how in the unbridled relentless fuck is it only Wednesday?

Tomorrow is my last work day this week because, on Friday, I have to drive my son 2.5 hours from here to get to a Texas DMV we could get an appointment at to get his learners permit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:44:11pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 7:57:41pm

re: #8 JOE 🥓

Memories of riding the Lincoln Highway (Rt. 30) in Pennsylvania and seeing the famous Noah’s Ark Hotel where you could see Maryland, West Virginia’s panhandle and Pennsylvania…until it burned down in 2001…

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roadsideamerica.com

Perhaps if I win the lotto I can build a boat on Panorama Point here, where you can do the same.

en.wikipedaia.org

The guy who owns that ranch hasn’t figured out how to monetise tourism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:00:01pm

re: #17 Belafon

Tomorrow is my last work day this week because, on Friday, I have to drive my son 2.5 hours from here to get to a Texas DMV we could get an appointment at to get his learners permit.

It sounds like Texas is trying to make driving as hard as they are trying to make voting.

Our DMV in my county is only open four hours on one day a month. Getting a driving test is like trying to pull teeth with pliers on an awake tiger.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:01:47pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Perhaps if I win the lotto I can build a boat on Panorama Point here, where you can do the same.

en.wikipedaia.org

The guy who owns that ranch hasn’t figured out how to monetise tourism.

Since Earth is flat and Panorama Point, Nebraska is higher in elevation than Denver, you can put your car in neutral and roll downhill right to the Sixteenth Street Mall.

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:05:56pm

re: #6 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

how in the unbridled relentless fuck is it only Wednesday?

Well, see, yesterday was Tuesday.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:10:10pm

re: #22 austin_blue

Well, see, yesterday was Tuesday.

You’re so linear.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:11:33pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:11:49pm

If anyone is interested in the Fagradalsfjall volcano, the AGU put together a special one hour seminar that explains what is happening. Some of it is technical, yes, but some of it is presented so the general audience can get something out of it:

Mount Fagradalsfjall Webinar

..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:16:00pm

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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@wesleysmorgan
Edward Snowden has inside info suggesting that everyone, including Julian Assange, will someday die of something

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:24:12pm

re: #14 jaunte

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Foxnooz vs. the U.S. military.

They also conveniently ignore the fact that the DOD has been calling America’s racism problem a threat to National Security… since like forever.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:28:21pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It absolutely, nail-spittingly, fucking infuriating to me that I still see people that know all the ratfucking the Russians have done, and now know that Glenn Greenwald actually is the piece of shit we told them he was for years… *STILL* prop-up Snowden like he’s not a Russian active measure.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:28:23pm

Is there hope that Fox News has finally gone too far to attack the Army?

Remember how Dad gloated over McCarthy getting slammed by Joseph Welch!

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:28:41pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Bless their hearts, both of them. And, Edward, stay on the ground floor, whatever you do.

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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:35:00pm

re: #27 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

They also conveniently ignore the fact that the DOD has been calling America’s racism problem a threat to National Security… since like forever.

Yup. The military has been falling apart ever since the Red Tails showed that black folk could fly fighters and that Hawaiian’s of Japanese descent could kill Germans as well as white people.

And then Harry Fucking Truman integrated the whole damn military in ‘48! Horrors and Nightmares!

By the way, we saw Hot Club of Cowtown play their first live show in 16 months tonight at The Continental Club’s early show. They absolutely kicked ass.

Unfortunately, as we were walking back to the car, Critical Race Theory robbed me of my wallet and White Privelege.

Traumatizing, I tell ya, traumatizing.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:38:03pm

Yanks won in the ninth inning. Best game ive been to in years.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:42:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:44:05pm

Not linking to a wingnut Christian apologist.

“Both Sides” are lying to you about Critical Race Theory.

It is not really a benign esoteric academic field of study, nor is it trying to convince your children that they are responsible for all the ills of society because of the colour of their skin.

You see it really is a racist recasting of history by those who promote it, and a cynical ploy by those who seek to denigrate it to hide real racist history.

But they are wrong too.

It is really an atheistic satanic plot to divide and conquer the USA and usher in the rule of Satan. Emphasis repeatedly on atheistic plot.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:52:39pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It sounds like Texas is trying to make driving as hard as they are trying to make voting.

Our DMV in my county is only open four hours on one day a month. Getting a driving test is like trying to pull teeth with pliers on an awake tiger.

It’s all about making it hard to get an ID since you go to a DMV to get just a simple, non-license ID.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 23, 2021 • 8:57:12pm

re: #35 Belafon

It’s all about making it hard to get an ID since you go to a DMV to get just a simple, non-license ID.

But when it comes to a gun heck just go get one and Governor Ironside will kiss your ass!

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mmmirele  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:03:13pm

re: #33 Punish Domestic Terrorists

and

I do not know if this was the same judge in both Tweets, but Judge Lamberth has been around a very long time and was appointed to the bench by Reagan. He was also the FISA court judge. He probably has more insight into national security than any other judge out there.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:08:06pm

Defund the Military is the rallying cry for Fox News.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:16:46pm

re: #38 DodgerFan1988

Nice. Fox and the QAP first turn on police and now they turn on the military…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:17:10pm

Catholic Archbishop Paul Gallagher (from the United Kingdom, serves in the position of Secretary of Relations for States at the Holy See), has written a letter to the Italian Parliament demanding Italy reject the so-called Zan Law.

This bill would expand on the law which punishes violence based on race or religion with four years in jail. It expands the reach of the law to attacks based on women, LGBT, or disability.

It has already passed the Chamber of Deputies, despite the team up of the Catholic Church and far-right groups to stop it.

The Catholic Church’s position is that the proposed expansion of the law (to punish violence against women, LGBT, or the disabled), is a violation of Catholic freedom-of-thought.

The Church argues the proposal violates the Lateran Treaty. (Apparently that treaty includes allowing violence against women, disabled, and LGBT as a matter of Catholic Doctrine and state policy.)

Vatican urges Italy to change proposed law that would criminalize homophobia (New York Daily News, more at the link)

The bill passed by a wide margin. Several deputies view this as inappropriate interference by a foreign power in Italian affairs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:30:33pm

re: #39 JOE 🥓

Nice. Fox and the QAP first turn on police and now they turn on the military…

They turned on them only because the institutions failed to support Trump’s Big Lie.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:34:50pm

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

They turned on them only because the institutions failed to support Trump’s Big Lie.

Yes, but they did. Their “we support the X” couldn’t take any kind of push back.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:36:17pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:37:50pm
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austin_blue  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:39:09pm

re: #43 Belafon

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The ultimate “own goal” ever committed by a sovereign state.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:49:37pm

re: #42 Belafon

Yes, but they did. Their “we support the X” couldn’t take any kind of push back.

The Capitol police may have upheld the law but I wouldn’t assume that police departments elsewhere throughout the nation were not sympathetic to the insurrectionists.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 23, 2021 • 9:52:01pm

Night Lizards.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:12:58pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Perhaps if I win the lotto I can build a boat on Panorama Point here, where you can do the same.

en.wikipedaia.org

The guy who owns that ranch hasn’t figured out how to monetise tourism.

What was unwritten about the place on US-30 was “on a clear day”. With the usual clouds or haze the view was not quite that distant.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:18:56pm

re: #38 DodgerFan1988

Laura Ingraham knows you can’t “withhold funding from the military.”

She also knows the Republican base which watches her show knows nothing about how government works.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:24:46pm

Suggested topics to follow by Twitter if you look at Alessandra Mussolini’s account there:

Elon Musk
Joe Rogan
South Dakota
Tom Brady
Bill Belichick

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:32:34pm

re: #39 JOE 🥓

Nice. Fox and the QAP first turn on police and now they turn on the military…

They turn on anybody who will not toe the racist, xenophobic misogynist, homophobic line.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:33:50pm

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And religious (their religious).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:35:05pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And religious (their religious).

Old Testament Fundamentalist

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:35:16pm

Jared and Ivanka Ditch Daddy and Try to Launder Four Years of Filth (Molly Jong-Fast at Daily Beast)

If you believe what you’re reading now about how they tried their darndest to do good, you deserve what you get.

It was just six days after Jared Kushner announced his book deal, promising “the definitive, thorough recounting of the administration and the truth about what happened behind closed doors,” that CNN ran an article headlined “Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner distance themselves from the former President and his constant complaints.”

About that book, you’re gonna get the “truth” from Jared like you’re going to get Diet Coke from a cow or a coherent thought from Junior. And about that article, “try” is the operative word here, as the plastic duo aim to launder their reputations but the last four years aren’t going to come out in the wash with a silly article about how they’re just regular, relatable folks trying to manage an annoying, overbearing and over-the-hill patriarch.

Wow, it’s a sham for sure but there’s no cleaning product or line of talk on the record or on background to friendly reporters that’s going to remove the stains from their reputations.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:38:26pm

Jared is far from the only Trumpist with a book on the horizon. Kellyanne Conway has a book coming and Mike Pence has two. These people are all going to try and launder their terrible reputations. They are going to lie to you and tell you that they tried, that they wanted to control Trump, that they were a “moderating force.” That they stopped Trump from doing the really bad stuff.

Do not believe them. Do not give these people the benefit of the doubt. The bad stuff happened. These people didn’t prevent anything. They’re just looking to clean up and cash out after hitting the exit doors.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:40:24pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They certainly knew before they started who they were getting into bed with, but were still nonetheless astounded that he was that truly awful…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:49:57pm

re: #38 DodgerFan1988

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Defund the Military is the rallying cry for Fox News.

Lots of luck with that, Guano Girl. Even the most venal sold-out low-life Repug Congress-slime has bases or at least contractors in the home district. Vote against the Pentagon, guess where the close-axe falls?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:52:33pm

(3:36)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 23, 2021 • 10:55:55pm

I’m going to struggle off to bed.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 23, 2021 • 11:02:08pm

My legs are still weak and sore from battling the headwinds. I think I need a second day break from riding.

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2021 • 11:07:07pm

Saturday night at Red Rocks, I was in the audience for this.

Umphrey’s McGee “Hanging Chads” 6/19/21

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 23, 2021 • 11:32:55pm

For some reason posting pics of your e-bike on a bridge is a thing, so I have now fulfilled that requirement. Here’s examples of that thing.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:10:04am

People are photo-bombing the volcano cameras.

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BigPapa  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:19:34am

This looks horrible

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:23:26am

re: #64 BigPapa

This looks horrible

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:27:53am

re: #64 BigPapa

Looks like a big part of the building just sheared away:

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:29:46am

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

Looks like an apartment building. Any Lizards know what that building was?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:39:10am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:42:36am

Infrastructure! Building standards!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:52:51am

re: #69 Dread Pirate Ron

Infrastructure! Building standards!

Critical Race Theory stole my foundations!
//////

(Yes I know. Not funny.)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 12:54:12am

Holy shit - some before/after photos.

From what I read elsewhere, this was a 135 unit condo building.

Maybe a sinkhole opened up in the building foundation? Florida is notorious for sinkholes, though from what I’d read, it’s more west central Florida that gets sinkholes the most, owing to its geology.

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ericblair  Jun 24, 2021 • 1:04:21am

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Lots of luck with that, Guano Girl. Even the most venal sold-out low-life Repug Congress-slime has bases or at least contractors in the home district. Vote against the Pentagon, guess where the close-axe falls?

General Officers/Flag Officers often have PhDs, and read constantly. I’m sure Milley has read what he said he read, and much much more. But conservatives just consider them knuckle-dragging beat cops with more toys.

And just FYI, if your goal is to seize power undemocratically, pissing off the Chief of Defense, as well as the FBI leadership seems suboptimal.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 1:07:47am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

Looks like the area just to the left of the corner balconies (in the second photo of the building, when it was intact) was the structural failure point.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 1:11:16am

JFC, that’s most of the building that collapsed. Yeah, this is gonna be bad.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 1:17:35am

This was the building that collapsed: Champlain Towers South.

Champlain Towers South - one of three towers comprising the Champlain Towers oceanfront condominium development in Surfside - rises 12 stories. Completed in 1981, Champlain Towers South has 136 condo residences comprised of one-, two-, three-, and four-bedroom floor plans ranging in size from 1,200 to 4,500 square feet. The spacious residences at Champlain Towers East feature open floor plans with views of the Atlantic Ocean, deep balconies, and floor-to-ceiling glass windows.

The amenities at Champlain Towers South include a heated pool, hot tub, sauna, gym, BBQ area, and valet parking. Most importantly, Champlain Towers South offers direct access to the beach.

Champlain Towers South is located at 8777 Collins Avenue in Surfside, Florida. Within walking distance of Champlain Towers South condominium are a Publix grocery store, tennis center, fine-dining restaurants and bar at the Four Seasons, the North Shore Open Space Park, and luxury shops and restaurants at Bal Harbour Shops. By car, Champlain Towers South is 17 minutes from South Beach Beach, 20 minutes from the Aventura Mall, and 30 minutes from the Miami International Airport.

There were only three condo units available for sale, as per a Miami real estate website.

miamicondoinvestments.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 24, 2021 • 1:35:09am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 1:39:10am

Barrier islands are notoriously bad, and given the geology of Florida it was probably built on rather porous limestone.

Whether it was a sinkhole? I don’t know, as I doubt there is much freshwater there, it would be most likely salt water intrusion.

Of course the real question is whether the builder made any shortcuts that inherently made the building weak.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 1:48:56am

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The part of the building that collapsed is the part of the building where the underground parking garage was located. I can’t help but wonder if that had something to do with it; I wouldn’t be surprised if that garage hadn’t seen its share of hurricane-related flooding over the last four decades which caused hidden damage in the garage. That hidden damage ultimately reaches a critical point and leads to a catastrophic structural failure.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 2:02:53am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

But a properly built steel frame/concrete building should withstand water.

Now the problem is salt water intrusion.

While something might have corroded in the structure, my suspicion is that under the parking garage water movement may have removed a lot of supporting material.

That part of Florida’s geology is all about the Miami Limestone formation, which is a very young rock (from the past 100k years or so.)

The investigation, which could go on for a long time, could be a shocker. Either the builder did cut corners, or geologists may conclude that the entire area is unsuited for these large buildings.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2021 • 2:06:10am

re: #79 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But a properly built steel frame/concrete building should withstand water.

Now the problem is salt water intrusion.

While something might have corroded in the structure, my suspicion is that under the parking garage water movement may have removed a lot of supporting material.

That part of Florida’s geology is all about the Miami Limestone formation, which is a very young rock (from the past 100k years or so.)

The investigation, which could go on for a long time, could be a shocker. Either the builder did cut corners, or geologists may conclude that the entire area is unsuited for these large buildings.

And then we will watch the local politicians fight the geologists because development and the associated money trumps science.

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garzooma  Jun 24, 2021 • 2:11:48am

re: #72 ericblair

General Officers/Flag Officers often have PhDs, and read constantly. I’m sure Milley has read what he said he read, and much much more. But conservatives just consider them knuckle-dragging beat cops with more toys.

And just FYI, if your goal is to seize power undemocratically, pissing off the Chief of Defense, as well as the FBI leadership seems suboptimal.

From Wikipedia:

Milley graduated from Princeton University with a Bachelor of Arts degree in politics in 1980 after completing a 185-page-long senior thesis titled “A Critical Analysis of Revolutionary Guerrilla Organization in Theory and Practice”. Milley also holds a Master of Arts degree in international relations from Columbia University and another Master of Arts degree in national security and strategic studies from the Naval War College.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 24, 2021 • 2:34:38am

Google Earth street view of the building.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2021 • 3:25:40am

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 3:26:51am

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

Why won’t Trump just move on?

There’s gold in the pockets of them there hillbillies!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 24, 2021 • 3:30:12am

One survivor found so far.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 3:58:50am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:01:54am

Half the building collapsed. It looks like it did what buildings are designed to do (fall inwards). I do wonder if under the structure something gave way.

Someone on twitter posted a video that they claim is from their apartment, which they were not occupying at the time but apparently kept a video camera going surveilling the inside of the apartment while they were gone. It shows dust falling from the ceiling, then about a second delay before everything starts to crumble, but then the screen went black (when the internet/power cut.)

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:03:35am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:23:52am

Re the building collapse at Surfside:

one person died.
ten people were treated on scene
the building has been cleared.

the building was undergoing ‘roof work’
it’s unclear whether that was a contributing factor

(cnn)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:27:55am

re: #89 Dangerman

The remaining half of the building has been cleared.

The other half is rubble. There will be many missing presumed dead.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:34:36am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:39:22am

This mayor needs to choose his words more carefully:

There are already the usual crowd wondering if this was a bombing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:47:13am

Speaking of Florida, DeSantis is doing his best to be more Trumpy than Trump:

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 4:49:37am

re: #89 Dangerman

the building was undergoing ‘roof work’
it’s unclear whether that was a contributing factor

Roof work (so to speak) played a role in the infamous 1995 Sampoong Department Store collapse - along with factors such as cutting corners, building against design specs, corruption and shoddy materials.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:01:53am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Speaking of Florida, DeSantis is doing his best to be more Trumpy than Trump:

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs

I don’t know about the rest of you, but my political beliefs at the start of my freshman year were pretty drastically unlike my political beliefs when I graduated.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:03:34am

re: #95 sagehen

More concerning is that DeSantis and this atavists want to control the faculty.

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jeffreyw  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:05:06am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:26:00am

re: #95 sagehen

I don’t know about the rest of you, but my political beliefs at the start of my freshman year were pretty drastically unlike my political beliefs when I graduated.

When I started college, it was more like Head Like a Hole and by the end it was Heresy, Bulls on Parade, and March of the Pigs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:38:58am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Speaking of Florida, DeSantis is doing his best to be more Trumpy than Trump:

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs

Reading the article, this is simply a case that he wants to cut education funding and “colleges breeding lock-step liberal brainwashing” makes for a good excuse

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:47:38am

I did not grow any less patriotic over the course of my college education, just a bit more critically patriotic and aware that there were and are other options on how to manage a society and economy.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:55:56am

Before wandering off to bed, I note that Ferrari has jumped on the Hybrid bandwagon. Yes, Ferrari. Enzo’s ghost is freaked out I’m sure.

ferrari.com

(Still like the Roma better … ;)

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:56:24am

re: #98 lawhawk

When I started college, it was more like Head Like a Hole and by the end it was Heresy, Bulls on Parade, and March of the Pigs.

I was a staunch Republican in H.S. and college. Looking back to that long ago era of the eighties, my politics may have started shifting with Iran Contra. I voted for Clinton in 1992; I no longer remember if I voted for Dukakis in 1988, but maybe.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:57:24am

re: #101 William Lewis

Before wandering off to bed, I note that Ferrari has jumped on the Hybrid bandwagon. Yes, Ferrari. Enzo’s ghost is freaked out I’m sure.

ferrari.com

[Embedded content]

(Still like the Roma better … ;)

It looks fast as hell, anyway.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:58:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:58:58am

re: #104 No Malarkey!

As a lib, I will feel so owned if defense spending is cut!

She would take away the funding (and the hardware) and give it to the riot police.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:59:08am

re: #101 William Lewis

Electric vehicles have higher torque, faster response, and better center of gravity than an ICE. Hybrids split the difference - even with more weight for having the hybrid add on, it still adds to torque and HP to the wheels (and braking).

So this could end up being even faster 0-60, 0-100, etc., than the gas equivalent model.

They still know how to make gorgeous looking cars no matter the propulsion.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 5:59:53am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:01:31am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As a lib, I will feel so owned if defense spending is cut!

She would take away the funding (and the hardware) and give it to the riot police.

Of course the Aryan princess would.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:01:39am

re: #107 No Malarkey!

ICU beds are filling up with young, unvaccinated patients, and staff members are burned out fighting a battle that was supposed to be in its final throes.

Those people would rather risk the ICU than magnetism, 5G tracking and DNA manipulation…

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:02:48am

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:03:33am

re: #90 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The remaining half of the building has been cleared.

The other half is rubble. There will be many missing presumed dead.

Thx

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:03:54am

Reminder:

GOPers refused to vote for the Biden recovery bill, which funded law enforcement nationally - aiding states avoid having to cut law enforcement budgets at the state and local level due to pandemic resource limitations.

GOPers refused to mask/social distance/vaccinate. The leading cause of death for cops in 2020 in the line of duty was covid19, followed by gun violence. GOP doesn’t care about cops’ lives; they care only about having them as a backdrop for their fascist rallies.

GOPers don’t want to reform policing in the country, because it targets the right people (those who aren’t white). Policing disproportionately stops persons of color. It’s discriminatory and it is pervasive nationally. All those disproportionate stops lead to more arrests, more deaths at hands of police, more costs to communities of color, more incarcerations, and less upward mobility because people are hamstrung by institutions that see them as a cash cow to milk dry instead of let them survive and thrive.

GOPers are the enemy, which is why they don’t want to allow communities of color express their rights to vote, which is why they’re all in on voter suppression efforts at the state level where GOPers are unilaterally enacting voter suppression laws that disproportionately affect communities of color. There’s no bipartisanship there. It’s all GOPers doing all of the suppression.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:04:50am

re: #95 sagehen

I don’t know about the rest of you, but my political beliefs at the start of my freshman year were pretty drastically unlike my political beliefs when I graduated.

You can ask but you can’t make me tell you

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:06:02am

re: #110 Dangerman

rich people fly in helicopters…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:06:44am

Goebbels would be seething with jealousy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:06:54am

re: #113 Dangerman

You can ask but you can’t make me tell you

again, it is all about giving DeSatanist an excuse to cut college funding if they do not properly “diversify” their curriculum…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:08:35am

re: #107 No Malarkey!

There’s only one thing to do. Stop treating the willingly unvaccinated.

I know that’s harsh, but let’s put a positive spin on it…..let’s think of it as the “Great Cleansing”, making America a better and happier place to live.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:10:20am

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

There’s only one thing to do. Stop treating the willingly unvaccinated.

I know that’s harsh, but let’s put a positive spin on it…..let’s think of it as the “Great Cleansing”, making America a better and happier place to live.

personal responsibility is coming to breakfast

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:12:15am

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

There’s only one thing to do. Stop treating the willingly unvaccinated.

I know that’s harsh, but let’s put a positive spin on it…..let’s think of it as the “Great Cleansing”, making America a better and happier place to live.

I wonder if DeSantis’ questionnaire will also include questions about their attitude toward vaccination, hydroxycholroquinine, space lasers and 5G…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:12:35am

re: #118 Dangerman

personal responsibility is coming to breakfast

And the anti-vaxxers will be the first ones to eschew their entire concept of “personal responsibility”. It’ll become “OMG save me!!” in the blink of an eye.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:13:28am

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

There’s only one thing to do. Stop treating the willingly unvaccinated.

I know that’s harsh, but let’s put a positive spin on it…..let’s think of it as the “Great Cleansing”, making America a better and happier place to live.

That won’t happen, of course. I know one guy who said Christians should rely on faith, not medicine, to fight Covid, but you can bet that when he got Covid related pneumonia, he went to the hospital. BTW, anyone hear any news about fascist preacher Rick Wiles? Has he recovered from Covid yet?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:14:20am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wonder if DeSantis’ questionnaire will also include questions about their attitude toward vaccination, hydroxycholroquinine, space lasers and 5G…

LOL I can see it now.

What are you views on space lasers?

A) Space Lasers are Jewish

B) Space Lasers are definitely Jewish

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:15:04am
But Trump’s doctors threw everything they could at the virus all at once. His condition appeared to stabilize somewhat as the day wore on, but his doctors, still fearing he might need to go on a ventilator, decided to move him to the hospital. It was too risky at that point to stay at the White House.”

Privacy be damned. This is the President.
How does it take a year for us to learn how serious it was?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:15:07am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

LOL I can see it now.

What are you views on space lasers?

A) Space Lasers are Jewish

B) Space Lasers are definitely Jewish

C) Space Lasers are maliciously Jewish

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:16:18am
Trump’s brush with severe illness and the prospect of death caught the White House so unprepared that they had not even briefed Vice President Mike Pence’s team on a plan to swear him in if Trump became incapacitated…”

Incompetent Amateurs from top to bottom

Also from the new book nightmare scenario

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:17:50am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

And the anti-vaxxers will be the first ones to eschew their entire concept of “personal responsibility”. It’ll become “OMG save me!!” in the blink of an eye.

Ok well only let you be treated by healthcare workers who also refused vaccination

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:17:53am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Speaking of Florida, DeSantis is doing his best to be more Trumpy than Trump:

Florida Gov signs law requiring students, faculty be asked to declare their political beliefs

I think that would be more Stalin-y than Trump.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:19:55am

re: #125 Dangerman

So it was sheer dumb luck that his doctors managed to save his corrupt, incompetent, and dumb ass, all so he could continue to impose his dumbassery on the pandemic response consigning hundreds of thousands of Americans to deaths.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:20:14am

re: #101 William Lewis

Before wandering off to bed, I note that Ferrari has jumped on the Hybrid bandwagon. Yes, Ferrari. Enzo’s ghost is freaked out I’m sure.

ferrari.com

[Embedded content]

(Still like the Roma better … ;)

Imagine a fully electric Ferrari. 0-60 in .3 seconds because it warps space-time.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:21:47am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

C) Space Lasers are maliciously Jewish

Except between nightfall Friday and nightfall Saturday.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:22:13am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

rich people fly in helicopters…

Their shipments don’t.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:22:28am

re: #130 Barefoot Grin

Except between nightfall Friday and nightfall Saturday.

+1

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:23:24am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

rich people fly in helicopters…

Mercedes makes limos

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:26:09am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:27:39am
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:28:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:29:08am

re: #134 lawhawk

DeSantis is a fucknut who can’t be trusted.
DeSantis doesn’t have the right to ask these questions as it infringes on our 1A rights.
DeSantis can go fuck himself and the fascist horse he rode in on.

agree fully, but again, this is all just posturing and positioning himself to cut education funding unless they toe the line and “broaden” their curriculum to include more RW points of view (while dropping CRT)

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:29:50am

re: #136 Belafon

More than 70% of the guns recovered in crimes in NY or NJ come from out of state. Lax gun laws down the Iron Pipeline feed guns to states with strong gun laws. We’re only as safe as the state with the least restrictive gun laws.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:31:07am

re: #138 lawhawk

More than 70% of the guns recovered in crimes in NY or NJ come from out of state. Lax gun laws down the Iron Pipeline feed guns to states with strong gun laws. We’re only as safe as the state with the least restrictive gun laws.

That is a major issue in Chicago, which is only a few miles from the Indiana state line, where guns are basically as free as the breeze…

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:33:30am

re: #102 No Malarkey!

I was a staunch Republican in H.S. and college. Looking back to that long ago era of the eighties, my politics may have started shifting with Iran Contra. I voted for Clinton in 1992; I no longer remember if I voted for Dukakis in 1988, but maybe.

I started out Republican, in an era when “liberal Republican” and “moderate Republican” were not oxymorons. They were real things. I really liked President Ford. The first presidential election I could vote, 1980, I voted for Anderson. In 1984, I think maybe I voted “NO” for president. To this day, I hold a grudge against Reagan for what he did to the Ford campaign.

I voted HW in 1988 because it seemed to me like a foreign policy year; I stand by that vote. Dukakis couldn’t/wouldn’t have done as good a job with the collapse of the USSR, reunification of Germany, 1st gulf war, etc. But in 1992 I voted Clinton because it seemed to me like a domestic policy year, and that was HW’s weak spot.

The only Republican I’ve voted for in a general since then was Bloomberg for NYC mayor. He calls himself a Democrat now, but really in his heart he’s still a 1972 liberal Republican.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:34:58am

re: #140 sagehen

as late as 2000 I supported McCain as GOP nominee and voted for him in the primary and would likely have voted for him in the general.

That is about the last time I ever even considered a GOP candidate for any office.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:34:59am

I see that Glenn Loury is now buddies with Charles Murray.

What a circle (of derp) Loury has been on during his long public life in academia.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:35:27am

re: #110 Dangerman

Living in Minnesota, Franken knows something about bridges failing (I-35W Mississippi Bridge) - and the replacement was built in 13 months.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:35:53am

re: #135 Belafon

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:37:21am

re: #136 Belafon

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the loss in revenue in not selling to nutters is either negligible and thus not a harm, or it’s highly significant, in which case there’s a more serious problem than the revenue

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:39:20am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a major issue in Chicago, which is only a few miles from the Indiana state line, where guns are basically as free as the breeze…

“I don’t want to make any money. I just love to sell guns, heh-heh-heh.”

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JOE 🥓  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:40:58am

re: #121 No Malarkey!

That won’t happen, of course. I know one guy who said Christians should rely on faith, not medicine, to fight Covid, but you can bet that when he got Covid related pneumonia, he went to the hospital. BTW, anyone hear any news about fascist preacher Rick Wiles? Has he recovered from Covid yet?

Yes. Unfortunately that fucking anti-Semite is alive and he blames Covid on you guessed it—Soros.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:42:17am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

agree fully, but again, this is all just posturing and positioning himself to cut education funding unless they toe the line and “broaden” their curriculum to include more RW points of view (while dropping CRT)

A few years back, Georgetown College, in Kentucky, a liberal arts college which was affiliated with KySBC, was asked a simple request by them: please hire a theology professor who believes in biblical inerrancy. Correctly perceiving that acquiescing to this request was just a first step in converting Georgetown into a Bible college, they negotiated a divorce. Fascists never settle for less than total ideological conformity.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:43:25am
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sagehen  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:51:49am

re: #115 No Malarkey!

I came across the clip because QAnon people are see it as proof that the mass executions are right around the corner. Lots of glee in the Q chat rooms, demands for how exactly their imagined executions will be carried out and complaints they had to wait too long.

Did you ever see Jericho? The series starts with a couple of dozen nukes going off in all the biggest blue cities, then Lennie James and Skeet Ulrich spend the whole first season trying to find out who did it.

Turns out to be Halliburton and Blackwater; the capitol of the new, landlocked nation is Cheyenne.

By the end of season 2, Lennie and Skeet have found the proof, got the word out, and most remaining US military, plus the Texas Air National Guard, sign on to help them retake the country.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 24, 2021 • 6:57:56am
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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:01:01am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:02:22am
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:02:46am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:05:11am

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

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So, to recap, the right wing revolutionaries are prepping their insurrection by alienating the military and the intelligence community, and waging propaganda bio-war against their own base. But, hey, the AR-15 is invincible and they have all of them./

This reminds me more and more of various prophets who led earlier uprisings by assuring their followers that magic would make them bullet proof.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:06:24am

re: #152 Dangerman

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:07:54am

re: #153 No Malarkey!

Hotez may mean well, but he appears to be under the delusion that Murdoch Inc. really cares about all their idiot fans.

Con-men despise their marks.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:09:37am

Downloaded my digital vaccination record from the state of California.

It was easy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:09:49am

I had it on good authority that this country would go straight to hell if Biden was elected.

//

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:13:56am

re: #94 Dr Lizardo

Roof work (so to speak) played a role in the infamous 1995 Sampoong Department Store collapse - along with factors such as cutting corners, building against design specs, corruption and shoddy materials.

CNN just had a woman on the phone who lived in the building who said that very heavy materials were being placed on the roof in the area that collapsed.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:15:32am

Eric & Junior are competing for the coveted title of “The Dumbest Trump”

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:15:39am

NJ is about to enact a law requiring water providers to eliminate all lead mains in 10 years (with caveat that they can apply for 5 year extender if they can’t make deadline). They must change minimum of 10% of lead mains a year to get to done. It’s a very ambitious schedule but NJ has the highest percentage of lead mains in the nation (age has a lot to do with this). Newark is already well on its way to eliminating lead mains in its system, doing more in less time than Flint, Michigan.

They could get even more ambitious had the state devoted more of the windfall budget to that goal, but they didn’t.

Meanwhile, Albany NY came upon a piece of history - they were replacing water mains in town, and came across an old water pipe made of wood. We’ve had that in NYC from time to time in Lower Manhattan, but it goes to show just how old some water distribution systems in the nation truly are. These probably date back to the earliest days of Albany’s history but were disconnected from water supplies in the 1800s as iron pipes supplanted earlier systems.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:16:31am

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

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I had it on good authority that this country would go straight to hell if Biden was elected.

//

“You should be thanking Trump. If he hadn’t ignored recommendations like getting people to wear masks, then Biden wouldn’t have nearly as much to recover from.”

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:17:55am

re: #161 The Pie Overlord!

Eric & Junior are competing for the coveted title of “The Dumbest Trump”

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Yes, Jr, which is why they included the ability to put down rebellions in the constitution.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:17:58am

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

So, to recap, the right wing revolutionaries are prepping their insurrection by alienating the military and the intelligence community, and waging propaganda bio-war against their own base. But, hey, the AR-15 is invincible and they have all of them./

This reminds me more and more of various prophets who led earlier uprisings by assuring their followers that magic would make them bullet proof.

Look on the bright side - it’s going to be an uphill struggle in their Civil War LARPing when they’re all infected with COVID-19. And they’re a pretty high-risk group too; some of those guys look like they’ve been hitting the all you can eat Chinese buffet six days a week.

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:19:44am

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

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I had it on good authority that this country would go straight to hell if Biden was elected.

//

one of my all-time faves

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:21:14am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

CNN just had a woman on the phone who lived in the building who said that very heavy materials were being placed on the roof in the area that collapsed.

Yeah, heavy materials on the roof were a major part of the Sampoong collapse. In that case, it was AC units and they made things worse by moving them (and by moving them, I mean basically dragging them across the roof) because people in residential buildings were complaining about the noise.

In this case, if the heavy materials were unwittingly concentrated in a weak area, that could produce the collapse we saw.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:25:00am

re: #146 Barefoot Grin

“I don’t want to make any money. I just love to sell guns, heh-heh-heh.”

I remember the “Guns & Banjos” store outside Bloomington, IN.

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Mattand  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:28:28am

re: #162 lawhawk

NJ is about to enact a law requiring water providers to eliminate all lead mains in 10 years (with caveat that they can apply for 5 year extender if they can’t make deadline). They must change minimum of 10% of lead mains a year to get to done. It’s a very ambitious schedule but NJ has the highest percentage of lead mains in the nation (age has a lot to do with this). Newark is already well on its way to eliminating lead mains in its system, doing more in less time than Flint, Michigan.

They could get even more ambitious had the state devoted more of the windfall budget to that goal, but they didn’t.

Meanwhile, Albany NY came upon a piece of history - they were replacing water mains in town, and came across an old water pipe made of wood. We’ve had that in NYC from time to time in Lower Manhattan, but it goes to show just how old some water distribution systems in the nation truly are. These probably date back to the earliest days of Albany’s history but were disconnected from water supplies in the 1800s as iron pipes supplanted earlier systems.

There’s a FB group called “Old Images of Philadelphia” I’m on and they have posted similar photos. The images date from the early 1900s and show wooden water pipes from the early 1800s being dug up from the street (due to the construction of the subway, IIRC). Fascinating stuff.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:28:50am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember the “Guns & Banjos” store outside Bloomington, IN.

Before my time, but doesn’t surprise me. Even when I was there in 90s up to 2010 you didn’t have to go far beyond the town limits to get into some weird stuff (mostly property owners with hand-painted signs warning of the UN or communists).

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:28:57am

re: #161 The Pie Overlord!

Eric & Junior are competing for the coveted title of “The Dumbest Trump”

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steve_davis  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:31:45am

re: #102 No Malarkey!

I was a staunch Republican in H.S. and college. Looking back to that long ago era of the eighties, my politics may have started shifting with Iran Contra. I voted for Clinton in 1992; I no longer remember if I voted for Dukakis in 1988, but maybe.

voted for reagan in 84 because Mondale struck me as being an idiot, but staunchly Democratic since then.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:33:34am

On next door yesterday, someone posted that Texas was now the most pro-gun state in the country. I replied that you’re not pro-gun if you’ll let anyone have a gun, you’re pro-carnage. Someone replied with “OK, Karen.” I had to get onto them for the misuse of Karen.

Someone else had really bad math trying to justify it being ok for there to be guns. Their percentage of gun deaths by population was listed with .0000000 leading zeros, when actual division puts it at .0122%, making all their other numbers - guess what, Chicago leads in gun deaths according to this guy - suspect.

But this did make me wonder, what are the statistics of gun incidents per owners of guns? Not the population as a whole, but per just the gun owners?

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steve_davis  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:33:50am

re: #110 Dangerman

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Pretty sure Aristotle proved the Mercedes falls faster because it weighs more. ///// (Aristotle was a philosophy professor, so he was driving around in a Chevy Chevette).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:35:04am

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, heavy materials on the roof were a major part of the Sampoong collapse. In that case, it was AC units and they made things worse by moving them (and by moving them, I mean basically dragging them across the roof) because people in residential buildings were complaining about the noise.

In this case, if the heavy materials were unwittingly concentrated in a weak area, that could produce the collapse we saw.

I’m no engineering expert but I would think they would have to be pretty heavy materials to not only collapse the roof but also take half the building down with it. Otherwise you’d just have a localized section of collapsed roof that would damage a few floors at most.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:35:30am

re: #171 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Democrats would be harassing you for not separating your recyclables. It’s Republicans you have to worry about, and they know the US military would wipe the floor with you.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:35:56am

Looks like a security camera caught the collapse of the Champlain Tower South - it was two collapses, first the midsection, then the remaining part went down.

gfycat.com

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:37:32am

re: #176 Belafon

Democrats would be harassing you for not separating your recyclables. It’s Republicans you have to worry about, and they know the US military would wipe the floor with you.

Recyclables stopped being a thing where I live years ago. It all goes in the garbage now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:39:14am

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I am a resident of one of the condos on the side of the collapse. This is a video from my camera footage inside from the start of the collapse until the lose of connection (I was away from the building today). Towards the end, you hear the structure failing

So when will Q float the CT that this was an inside job done to help push the Democrats’ infrastructure bill?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:40:06am

re: #158 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Downloaded my digital vaccination record from the state of California.

It was easy.

You are now part of The Matrix.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:41:49am

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

Before my time, but doesn’t surprise me. Even when I was there in 90s up to 2010 you didn’t have to go far beyond the town limits to get into some weird stuff (mostly property owners with hand-painted signs warning of the UN or communists).

Monroe County was Klan Country

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:43:16am

#DailyGroaner:

Mosquito lands on salt in the belief it’s sugar, making it very, very thirsty. But the cap is filled with Vodka. The moquito gets drunk, stumbles on the stick and dies from hitting the head on the rock.

WIN!

“Environmentally Friendly Mosquito Killer”. Kids, don’t try this at home…
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:44:58am

re: #176 Belafon

Democrats would be harassing you for not separating your recyclables. It’s Republicans you have to worry about, and they know the US military would wipe the floor with you.

A sound economic system would ensure that the price of a product included its downstream costs, not just production costs.

If the cost of disposal was included in the price of an item of plastic, then recycling would be a self-evident thing encouraged by market mechanisms.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:53:36am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A sound economic system would ensure that the price of a product included its downstream costs, not just production costs.

If the cost of disposal was included in the price of an item of plastic, then recycling would be a self-evident thing encouraged by market mechanisms.

Recycling failed because Americans are filthy animals who contaminate the recyclables, causing China to reject the items they’d been processing.

Recycling in the U.S. Is Broken. How Do We Fix It? (Columbia Climate School)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:54:20am

Local Miami news is reporting that at least 51 people remain unaccounted for in the Champlain Tower South collapse.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:54:22am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:57:06am

re: #97 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

First jacarandas
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steve_davis  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:57:31am

re: #169 Mattand

There’s a FB group called “Old Images of Philadelphia” I’m on and they have posted similar photos. The images date from the early 1900s and show wooden water pipes from the early 1800s being dug up from the street (due to the construction of the subway, IIRC). Fascinating stuff.

I love stuff like this. The guy who finds old remnants from subway lines in New York. The one whose hobby is wandering around Baltimore finding the now incredibly rare street lights that date from long ago. Even stuff like the brick highway that was the original way to get to Miami but is now just segments being used as an alley is cool as shit to me. Oh, and did I mention how freakin’ cool it is when they do construction work in New York and discover immaculate signs on the sides of adjacent building from the late 1800’s that were covered all these years, but also protected from the elements?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 7:57:33am

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

Looks like a security camera caught the collapse of the Champlain Tower South - it was two collapses, first the midsection, then the remaining part went down.

gfycat.com

Progressive collapse in central area, and the right side of the structure collapsed after lack of support from the midsection. That will be useful to investigators trying to figure out origin of collapse and why it failed.

My guess? Overloaded structure, underbuilt/improperly built supports. They may have put the rebar in the wrong place or used wrong size rebar, which meant that once it was overstressed, it would fail.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:00:50am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m no engineering expert but I would think they would have to be pretty heavy materials to not only collapse the roof but also take half the building down with it. Otherwise you’d just have a localized section of collapsed roof that would damage a few floors at most.

You can also, depending on construction, get a pancake cascade. Roof collapses, causing the floor below to collapse, which causes the floor below that to collapse. Repeat ad nauseam. Especially if you have something heavy on the roof that is heavy enough to break the floor from the 10 ft or so drop from the previous level. The sound is a characteristic *whomp* *whomp* *whomp*. I believe it could be heard as the Twin Towers collapsed.

Another thing is that at the center of that part of the building, you have a parking garage, which raises the question of whether you may have had a sinkhole forming due to a poorly maintained storm drain system in there. Then we have the close proximity to the beach, has it been eroded enough to compromise the foundation of the building?

Then we have the more exotic causes of collapse, explosion, either explosive device or something like a gas leak. See the Ronan Point Disaster.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:03:27am

re: #190 Teukka

Addendum on the Ronan Point disaster is that when they dismantled one of the other towers built at the same time, evidence of shoddy construction work appeared, showing that the collapsed tower may not have been as structurally sound as it should have been if it had been build according to the module manufacturer instructions.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:04:06am

re: #123 Dangerman

Privacy be damned. This is the President.
How does it take a year for us to learn how serious it was?

I’m sure I heard all of that well before DT left office, but not from what source. It was Big News for a day or so…

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:04:49am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Monroe County was Klan Country

Yep. For several years I commuted from B’ton to Greencastle. Rebel flags, country music, evangelical churches everywhere. Martinsville got the rap because an African American woman selling encyclopedias was murdered in what was likely a racially motivated crime, but southern Indiana was just an extension of the south. When my wife saw all the rebel flags she said, “I wish every racist would wear a label like that.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:04:55am

re: #189 lawhawk

It was also right on the beach; some of the rebar might have corroded over the decades due to close proximity to saltwater.

When all is said and done, the investigation will probably reveal that it was many little things that all built up to a critical point and caused a catastrophic structural failure.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:05:58am

re: #190 Teukka

Yeah, I was thinking about the pancake cascade, which would be I assume the likely outcome if the items on the roof were sufficiently heavy.

However, that video posted a little earlier seems to suggest the collapse may have started somewhere below the roof.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:06:26am

re: #191 Teukka

In the Sampoong collapse, investigators found that so many corners were cut that it was almost miraculous it hadn’t collapsed before it finally did.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:07:18am

re: #184 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Recycling failed because Americans are filthy animals who contaminate the recyclables, causing China to reject the items they’d been processing.

Recycling in the U.S. Is Broken. How Do We Fix It? (Columbia Climate School)

Recycling fails because the market needs to be regulated to the extent that prices represent actual costs.

Too much of the profit margin of major companies comes from socializing the downstream environmental and health costs.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:07:23am

re: #190 Teukka

Harbor Cay in Cocoa Beach FL collapsed while under construction. Improper installation of rebar led to collapse as new floor was being poured - overstressing the floors below.

Sinkhole could be a possibility given FL geography but unlikely if geotech analysis was done properly before construction. We wont know more for a while, and it’ll be a lot of speculation until then.

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gocart mozart  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:08:05am
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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:08:48am

Over a half a million Americans died while the Trump administration called covid no big deal or a hoax. All the while making sure they received the best possible care. We knew they didn’t care about anything but “owning the libs” and vilifying anyone who took covid seriously. But the evidence coming out is astounding. Instead of being held to account for their neglectful and criminal behavior, they’re getting book deals.

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar’s phone rang with an urgent request: Could he help someone at the White House obtain an experimental coronavirus treatment, known as a monoclonal antibody?

If Azar could get the drug, what would the White House need to do to make that happen? Azar thought for a moment. It was Oct. 1, 2020, and the drug was still in clinical trials. The Food and Drug Administration would have to make a “compassionate use” exception for its use since it was not yet available to the public. Only about 10 people so far had used it outside of those trials. Azar said of course he would help.

Azar wasn’t told who the drug was for but would later connect the dots. The patient was one of President Donald Trump’s closest advisers: Hope Hicks.

A short time later, FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn received a request from a top White House official for a separate case, this time with even greater urgency: Could he get the FDA to sign off on a compassionate-use authorization for a monoclonal antibody right away? There is a standard process that doctors use to apply to the FDA for unapproved drugs on behalf of patients dealing with life-threatening illnesses who have exhausted all other options, and agency scientists review it. The difference was that most people don’t call the commissioner directly. (WaPo)

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:08:51am

re: #199 gocart mozart

Some turds just will not be flushed.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:09:24am

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

It could start below the roof because loads transmit down load bearing structures, and fail at the point where they’re weakest. Added weight on roof in the wrong spots could cause progressive collapse starting at weak spot.

I35 bridge collapse is example of that - overweighted work on bridge deck caused collapse to start with weak links in single point of failure structural members.

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plansbandc  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:12:04am

re: #101 William Lewis

That is a gorgeous car. Wow!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:12:12am
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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:13:20am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

In the Sampoong collapse, investigators found that so many corners were cut that it was almost miraculous it hadn’t collapsed before it finally did.

Yeah. I remember that. Used to be an avid watcher of Secons from disaster, and one of the episodes was about the Sampoong Department Store collapse.

Why is it that certain people see regulation as big gubmint overreach, when history time and time and time again that in many areas, such as construction, health, safety, environment, air travel, and many more, the regulations are practically written in the blood of victims pre-regulation. :pulls hair:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:15:01am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

Good fucking grief.

If it’s not sex fantasies with these people, it’s murder fantasies.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:16:25am

re: #205 Teukka

I’ve used that episode for English lessons on engineering and failure analysis. Lots of my students over the years have been engineers and architects.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:16:42am

re: #199 gocart mozart

Newsmax’s Dick Morris suggests Critical Race Theory may “reinforce the Oedipal notion all kids have of wanting to kill their father and marry their mother”

We need a CRT Definition Generator

“CRT causes ____________________ to want to ____________ their own ____________ with a rusty ___________because of __________ed ___________complexes”

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:17:14am

re: #205 Teukka

Why is it that certain people see regulation as big gubmint overreach, when history time and time and time again that in many areas, such as construction, health, safety, environment, air travel, and many more, the regulations are practically written in the blood of victims pre-regulation. :pulls hair:

“Don’t ever take a fence down until you know the reason it was put up.”
― G. K. Chesterton

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:18:57am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

I’ve used that episode for English lessons on engineering and failure analysis. Lots of my students over the years have been engineers and architects.

Also, using the “NTSB approach” or “Inquest approach” post-calamity (for many kinds of calamity) is the best way to prevent reruns of said calamities.

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plansbandc  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:19:42am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would’ve voted for him too, in fact I was still contemplating it when I got my ballot, but the thought of Palin being anywhere near power was too awful to contemplate.

I now regret every vote I ever gave an R, and I wish I could take them back.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:20:31am

In today’s episode of PULPIT PIMP THEATRE!

‘Prophet’ Robin Bullock Says Biden Has ‘Slotted Serpent’s Eyes,’ Which Is a Sign of Demonic Possession

Actually you’re the one pulling the serpent shit, asshole!

‘Prophet’ Robin Bullock Says Biden Has ‘Slotted Serpent’s Eyes,’ Which Is a Sign of Demonic Possession

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:21:49am

re: #212 JOE 🥓

In today’s episode of PULPIT PIMP THEATRE!

‘Prophet’ Robin Bullock Says Biden Has ‘Slotted Serpent’s Eyes,’ Which Is a Sign of Demonic Possession

Actually you’re the one pulling the serpent shit, asshole!

[Embedded content]

It’s just sad that anyone is dumb enough to believe these absurd grifters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:21:54am

re: #211 plansbandc

I would’ve voted for [McCain] too, in fact I was still contemplating it when I got my ballot, but the thought of Palin being anywhere near power was to awful to contemplate.

I now regret every vote I ever gave an R, and I wish I could take them back.

I was talking about the 2000 primaries before Sarah was under consideration.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:22:05am

Finally!

Pelosi announces select committee on Trump-incited Capitol riots

rawstory.com

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:22:20am

re: #199 gocart mozart

Where did they dig Dick Morris up? I haven’t heard his name in years. Has he still been on the grifter circuit all this time?

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TedStriker  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:22:31am

re: #205 Teukka

Yeah. I remember that. Used to be an avid watcher of Secons from disaster, and one of the episodes was about the Sampoong Department Store collapse.

Why is it that certain people see regulation as big gubmint overreach, when history time and time and time again that in many areas, such as construction, health, safety, environment, air travel, and many more, the regulations are practically written in the blood of victims pre-regulation. :pulls hair:

Once more, with feeling, just in case any conservative numpties see it:
Health and safety regulations are written in fucking blood.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:24:23am

re: #186 No Malarkey!

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:25:01am

And isn’t it about time?

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:25:42am
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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:26:24am

re: #217 TedStriker

Once more, with feeling, just in case any conservative numpties see it:
Health and safety regulations are written in fucking blood.

Amen, brother, AMEN!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:26:35am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:27:16am

Apparently I keep neglecting to refresh before posting

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plansbandc  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:27:53am

re: #187 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Ooh. So pretty!

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JOE 🥓  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:28:03am

savoring every last word…

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:28:13am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s worth repeating!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:28:23am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Problem solved….

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:29:41am
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JOE 🥓  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:30:04am

This is for you, Rudy!

New York Groove

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:30:41am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:32:30am

re: #230 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

You love to see it.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:33:12am

Oh Rudy.

The Specials - A Message To You Rudy (Official Music Video)

Rudy just saw his legal career get flushed down the toilet. Considering that these statements were so egregious and repeatedly so often, the advisory committee had no choice but to act deliberately and quickly.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:34:10am
A well-known neo-Nazi vlogger who loved nothing more than to dress up as comic book villains and call for genocide quietly pleaded guilty to several gun charges Tuesday morning.

Paul Miller, a 32-year-old Florida man, is better known by his audience of racists and online trolls as Gypsy Crusader. He had a sizable audience on sites like Bitchute and Telegram—sites well known for their lax rules about hate speech and violent rhetoric—where he would post racist remarks and call for violence. An FBI raid in March netted him three charges for possession of an unregistered firearm and ammunition and possession of a weapon as a felon.

He faces 30 years in prison upon sentencing.

Neo-Nazi Who Dressed Like Joker and Trolled Omegle Faces 30 Years in Prison (Vice News)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:34:34am

JFC

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:36:13am

re: #232 lawhawk

Oh Rudy.

[Embedded content]

Video

Rudy just saw his legal career get flushed down the toilet. Considering that these statements were so egregious and repeatedly so often, the advisory committee had no choice but to act deliberately and quickly.

Does that matter to someone who reached retirement age seven years ago? He’s a retiree working to promote white nationalism, and can continue to do that outside the courtroom.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:37:29am

OK now make TFG testify for 11 hours. People would PAY to watch that.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:39:06am

re: #236 The Pie Overlord!

OK now make TFG testify for 11 hours. People would PAY to watch that.

Seditious trash are going to lose even more of their small minds over this.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:39:53am

re: #219 jaunte

And isn’t it about time?

I am going to assume that this is the first step toward disbarment.

* Edited for a BIG typo.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:39:57am

re: #236 The Pie Overlord!

OK now make TFG testify for 11 hours. People would PAY to watch that.

[Embedded content]

LOL Trump would last for 10 minutes before he’d start denying he was ever POTUS.

“IT WAS ALL PENCE! ALL I EVER DID WAS PLAY GOLF AND STAY AT THE WHITE HOUSE AS HIS GUEST!!”

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:40:48am

re: #235 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Oh, it certainly matters.

His reputation is in tatters, and he’s got all the criminal investigations ongoing into his actions, including his conspiracies with Trump, Parnas/Fruman, etc.

His law license is going to be the least of his concerns before this is over, and he wont be able to claim attorney-client privilege either, as crime-fraud exception will expose how he used his law license to carry out Trump’s criminal schemes.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:42:48am

re: #229 JOE 🥓

This is for you, Rudy!

[Embedded content]

I dedicate this here musical piece to Ghouliani, Trump, and all of their enablers, accessories and co-conspirators…

Infected Mushroom - U R So Fucked [HD]

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:43:14am

re: #240 lawhawk

Oh, it certainly matters.

His reputation is in tatters, and he’s got all the criminal investigations ongoing into his actions, including his conspiracies with Trump, Parnas/Fruman, etc.

His law license is going to be the least of his concerns before this is over, and he wont be able to claim attorney-client privilege either, as crime-fraud exception will expose how he used his law license to carry out Trump’s criminal schemes.

I’m much more interested in the criminal investigations, but you make a good point that he can’t hide behind his law license. That is a beautiful thing.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:45:49am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

JFC

This video and many more like it are going to be crucial during the investigation into the collapse.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:46:03am
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:46:55am

re: #243 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Jared Kushner and his fellow slumlords have already gotten their money offshore.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:47:23am
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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:49:28am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

Also, what remains appears to have a very concerning list, and may spontaneously collapse on its own…

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:49:42am

re: #242 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Crime fraud exception is used to essentially nullify the accepted attorney client privilege, because you cannot use your law practice to further criminal acts by your clients.

That’s exactly what Trump and Rudy have been doing. It’s what Trump did with Cohen.

It’s how the Trumpworld crime syndicate operates.

Suspended license is going to spill over to other jurisdictions where Rudy appeared in court, or is licensed to practice. He’s going to find himself with a mess of disciplinary actions to contend with in short order. I think DC and PA are among those places where he appeared.

Suspensions are one thing. Fines and criminal prosecutions are another. Those take time.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:50:42am

Oh I can’t wait to see Gosar, Brooks, Biggs and Ron Johnson subpoenaed and forced to testify before the House Select Committee.

And then grill Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, Rudy and the rest of Trump’s shysters for 12 hours!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:52:00am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

Looking at the second photo in the second tweet, it looks like the roof of the underground parking garage collapsed, and when that went, the rest of the building got pulled down….first the midsection directly above the parking garage, then the remaining part that wobbled for a couple seconds before it went down, too.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:52:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:52:39am

re: #247 Teukka

Also, what remains appears to have a very concerning list, and may spontaneously collapse on its own…

Yeah, I noticed that too. What’s left will have to be condemned, no question about it.

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JC1  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:54:08am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

rich people fly in helicopters…

Not everywhere. How many helliports in all of Manhattan? How many rich people?

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:55:38am

re: #236 The Pie Overlord!

OK now make TFG testify for 11 hours. People would PAY to watch that.

Seth Meyers says he’ll stop making fun of TFG until the end of the year, on condition that TFG take on the role of Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman. On Broadway. Off-book.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:56:45am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:56:47am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I noticed that too. What’s left will have to be condemned, no question about it.

Absolutely, but the people in it have survived to need to find a new place to live.
The death toll will be very high in a building that size, but it could have been even worse.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:58:18am

Shut Down OANN!

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:58:27am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Looking at the second photo in the second tweet, it looks like the roof of the underground parking garage collapsed, and when that went, the rest of the building got pulled down….first the midsection directly above the parking garage, then the remaining part that wobbled for a couple seconds before it went down, too.

[Embedded content]

Hard to say if the parking garage collapsed first or was a casualty of other parts of the structure failing.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 8:59:56am

re: #256 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I had assumed it was empty for renovations since just one person was killed.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:00:31am

re: #256 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Absolutely, but the people in it have survived to need to find a new place to live.
The death toll will be very high in a building that size, but it could have been even worse.

It’s early summer in Miami: I wonder how many of those condo units are owned by “snowbirds”, so presumably away at the time of the disaster? There was an inside (security-cam) video showing shaking before the collapse which looked like the unit was boxed up for moving:
hopefully there was a low occupancy rate…..

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:02:01am

re: #259 jaunte

I had assumed it was empty for renovations since just one person was killed.

Miami news/ national reports: ~50 missing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:02:08am

A needed tweet

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:02:22am

re: #253 JC1

Not everywhere. How many helliports in all of Manhattan? How many rich people?

There’s 3 heliports in NYC.

One downtown, one at East 34th St., and one at West 30th St.

I’ve flown out of the west 30th st, it was 7 minutes to Newark.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:02:57am

re: #261 lawhawk

Horrible.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:03:06am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:03:41am

re: #260 Jay C

It’s early summer in Miami: I wonder how many of those condo units are owned by “snowbirds”, so presumably away at the time of the disaster? There was an inside (security-cam) video showing shaking before the collapse which looked like the unit was boxed up for moving:
hopefully there was a low occupancy rate…..

Let’s hope so. That place was built in the early 1980s and as my old friend Kim pointed out (she’s a lifelong Miami resident), the chances are above average that the building’s construction was substandard. The 80s was a very corrupt time in the Miami area, with cocaine money fueling a construction boom. The work was done fast, and done cheap.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:05:08am

re: #257 JOE 🥓

Shut Down OANN!

To pointed a guess?

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:08:23am

re: #138 lawhawk

More than 70% of the guns recovered in crimes in NY or NJ come from out of state. Lax gun laws down the Iron Pipeline feed guns to states with strong gun laws. We’re only as safe as the state with the least restrictive gun laws.

Raises hand and waves from Texas:

“Yoo Hoo!”

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DesertDenizen  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:10:45am

re: #268 austin_blue

Raises hand and waves from Texas:

“Yoo Hoo!”

Arizona says you’re late to the party Texas. We’ve had permitless concealed carry for a decade. And the shootings to match.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:13:02am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Let’s hope so. That place was built in the early 1980s and as my old friend Kim pointed out (she’s a lifelong Miami resident), the chances are above average that the building’s construction was substandard. The 80s was a very corrupt time in the Miami area, with cocaine money fueling a construction boom. The work was done fast, and done cheap.

Original Miami Vice Theme (MV video by StevenMighty)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:13:49am

re: #269 DesertDenizen

Arizona says you’re late to the party Texas. We’ve had permitless concealed carry for a decade. And the shootings to match.

We used to enjoy going out to picnic in the Superstition or Four Peaks wilderness areas outside Phoenix (in the cooler months of the year, naturally) but that is hardly possible anymore because so many idiots are out there blasting off ammo by the ton.

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DesertDenizen  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:16:47am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And what used to be plinking with .22s, or handguns, is now the ear shattering .223 of their tacticool ARs. Less marksmanship and more mall ninja.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:17:25am

re: #270 sagehen

Someone made this video, based on Miami Vice, that really captured what that show was about. For a TV show, it had top-notch cinematography, it was generally well-written, and had a good cast.

Yeah, there was a ton of shady business going on in the Miami area in the 1980s, with easy money pouring in from the Cocaine Cowboys - money that needed to be laundered ASAP. And real estate is a mighty fine way to launder ill-gotten gains.

Dance With The Dead - Only A Dream (Miami Vice 1984–1990 Tribute)

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:21:37am

re: #263 sagehen

There’s 3 heliports in NYC.

One downtown, one at East 34th St., and one at West 30th St.

I’ve flown out of the west 30th st, it was 7 minutes to Newark.

And until May of 1977, there was one right in Midtown, atop the Pan Am (later Met Life) Building…

On 16 May 1977, New York Airways’ commercial S-61-L, N619PA, suffered a static rollover onto its starboard side at the heliport on top of the Pan Am Building while boarding passengers. The accident killed four boarding passengers and one woman on the street. 17 additional passengers and the three flight crew members were uninjured.[46] The landing gear collapse was a result of metal fatigue in the helicopter’s main landing gear shock-absorbing strut assembly, which caused the helicopter to tip over without warning. The accident resulted in the permanent closure of the Pan Am Building heliport.

Weird anecdotal connection: I was (almost) there: just before the accident, a friend and I were crossing Park Avenue, and we saw a guy with a camera and tripod set up aiming at the Pan Am Building. We casually asked him what he was doing, and he said that he was trying to get shots of the helicopters landing/taking off from the heliport.
We wished him good luck and walked off: ever since I’ve wondered if he got that “lucky” shot after all..

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:28:27am

re: #274 Jay C

I tried to fly the old NY Helicopters once about 20 years ago. I was an airline employee, and it only cost $15 to fly them to JFK standby. But they cancelled the flight because they didn’t have any real paying passengers and they sure as hell were not gonna fly me for $15. Only time I ever non-revved and got bumped because there were too many seats…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:29:28am

re: #230 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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plansbandc  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:31:16am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The look of complete disdain is impressive.

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garzooma  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:35:17am

re: #276 No Malarkey!

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Dangerman  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:37:22am

re: #226 jaunte

It’s worth repeating!

I’ll upping evey si.gle.one

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:47:06am

We’ll see if this package can get 5 more Republican Senators. Mitch McConnell will whip against it, I bet.

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aatharuv  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:48:20am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Let’s hope so. That place was built in the early 1980s and as my old friend Kim pointed out (she’s a lifelong Miami resident), the chances are above average that the building’s construction was substandard. The 80s was a very corrupt time in the Miami area, with cocaine money fueling a construction boom. The work was done fast, and done cheap.

So basically, the same thing that happens in developing countries before they are developed enough to start really enforcing construction codes, or be less immune to the type of mid-level corruption that allows this to happen.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:48:59am
Top Democrats in the House are investigating whether Trump justice department officials ran an unlawful shadow operation to target political enemies of the former president to hunt down leaks of classified information, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Narrator: They did.

House investigates possible shadow operation in Trump justice department (Guardian via MSN)

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:51:24am

re: #269 DesertDenizen

Arizona says you’re late to the party Texas. We’ve had permitless concealed carry for a decade. And the shootings to match.

And one could “Open Carry” since Statehood. But back when folks were smart, the consensus was that to do so in an urban area wouldn’t be wise. The only openly armed dweebs you’d see in town (Phoenix in my case) were just that, dweebs.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:53:14am

DeDumbass is speaking in Florida

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:54:38am

re: #281 aatharuv

So basically, the same thing that happens in developing countries before they are developed enough to start really enforcing construction codes, or be less immune to the type of mid-level corruption that allows this to happen.

There was a board game in Germany - unfortunately now out of print - called Pfusch am Bau (Slipshod Construction) in which the players are contractors.

They “bid” for jobs. They can use expensive bits of plasticine clay to complete their projects, or they can secretly wrap it around cheap blocks of wood.

The “Inspector” then checks these structures by pushing a toothpick through them to see if they have been tampered with. But you can bribe the inspector.

And the game is set up so that if you play fairly and do not fudge and bribe the inspectors, you will inevitably lose…

(I am trying to determine if “pfusch” and “fudge” are not related terms)

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DesertDenizen  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:55:35am

re: #283 Dave In Austin

And one could “Open Carry” since Statehood. But back when folks were smart, the consensus was that to do so in an urban area wouldn’t be wise. The only openly armed dweebs you’d see in town (Phoenix in my case) were just that, dweebs.

I’m near Tombstone, where open carry is exceedingly common. Which is ironic because the town is famous because of a fight precipitated by the Marshall banning the carry of firearms in town. Now they bill themselves as “America’s Second Amendment City”.

And for the record, outside of true rural/wild locations where wildlife might be an issue, ANYONE open carrying is a dweeb.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:56:25am

re: #281 aatharuv

So basically, the same thing that happens in developing countries before they are developed enough to start really enforcing construction codes, or be less immune to the type of mid-level corruption that allows this to happen.

All those millions in easy cocaine dinero were flooding in, day after day, week after week, and pretty much everyone wanted a piece of that action. As Kim (and her friends) told me, it was an economic boom unlike any other - though granted, from a nefarious source.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:57:55am

They really don’t want enlisted scum…service members

Fee structure

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:58:27am

re: #280 No Malarkey!

We’ll see if this package can get 5 more Republican Senators. Mitch McConnell will whip against it, I bet.

[Embedded content]

I dunno: given old McTurtle’s still-seemingly-iron grip on his caucus, I’m guessing that if even as *many* as 5 Senate GOPers are agreeing to an infrastructure “deal”, the fix is in, and that whatever the final numbers are, the Senate vote (probably something like 52-48) will be rigged to let the Republicans to be able to bitch to the max about the “wasteful” bill, while still grabbing as much Federal moola for their states/districts as they possibly can…

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:58:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 9:59:06am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

All those millions in easy cocaine dinero were flooding in, day after day, week after week, and pretty much everyone wanted a piece of that action. As Kim (and her friends) told me, it was an economic boom unlike any other - though granted, from a nefarious source.

…and don’t forget how Castro PWN3D us with the Mariel Boatlift, emptying his prisons of all his most brutal, incorrigible and hardened criminals, whom we welcomed with open arms as “refugees from totalitarianism” and turned loose on out streets.

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Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:01:17am

re: #280 No Malarkey!

We’ll see if this package can get 5 more Republican Senators. Mitch McConnell will whip against it, I bet.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, I’m withholding assessment until the details of the bill are made public. But all the talk so far has been…less than encouraging.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:01:43am

re: #290 (((Archangel1)))

The scene with Wayne and Garth rocking in the car to Queen would work for me.

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aatharuv  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:01:58am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

All those millions in easy cocaine dinero were flooding in, day after day, week after week, and pretty much everyone wanted a piece of that action. As Kim (and her friends) told me, it was an economic boom unlike any other - though granted, from a nefarious source.

The boom in substandard construction happens, as lots of people in developing countries suddenly have more cash to spend and/or the banking system has much more cash to make loans more available). And then there are lots of people muscling in the construction trades to sell them homes. Not as easy as cocaine-bucks and more legitimate, but it has the same effects..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:03:31am
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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:04:01am

re: #289 Jay C

I dunno: given old McTurtle’s still-seemingly-iron grip on his caucus, I’m guessing that if even as *many* as 5 Senate GOPers are agreeing to an infrastructure “deal”, the fix is in, and that whatever the final numbers are, the Senate vote (probably something like 52-48) will be rigged to let the Republicans to be able to bitch to the max about the “wasteful” bill, while still grabbing as much Federal moola for their states/districts as they possibly can…

It has to get 60 votes; this is the non-reconciliation infrastructure bill.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:05:45am

Good thread about the charges against Giuliani.

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Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:07:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:07:15am

re: #297 No Malarkey!

Good thread about the charges against Giuliani.

currently only temporary.

but given the bullshit he was spewing for so long I wonder why it took until today to shut his operation down

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A Mom Anon  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:08:11am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

My father in law was the lead carpenter on the Versace mansion back in the day. This was in the early 90s.That cocaine money was still floating around during that time. We got to visit during the remodel Versace did on the place. He even had a piece of wood that was supposed to have come from one of Columbus’ ships built into paneling in an office. All that work my FIL did was ripped out and trashed, he said it was the most he ever got paid for any job. There was a lot of development going on at that time, I can only imagine how much money was laundered during that 10-12 years.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:10:39am

re: #300 A Mom Anon

There was a lot of development going on at that time, I can only imagine how much money was laundered during that 10-12 years.

I have no idea either, but offhand, I’d reckon it had to be in the billions of dollars.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:11:45am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

currently only temporary.

but given the bullshit he was spewing for so long I wonder why it took until today to shut his operation down

It takes time for the advisory committee to act, and it is pretty quick for this kind of disciplinary action to take place. It is unusual for this kind of suspension to occur as well, which goes to the seriousness of the charges.

This does make it easier for other jurisdictions where Rudy served up this crap to suspend him there as well.

Rudy clearly violated the ABA rules on professional conduct as well as the NYS Code of Professional Conduct. As an officer of the court admitted to the state bar, Rudy violated key provisions that should end his career as a lawyer.

His prosecution comes next.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:12:02am

re: #298 Targetpractice

Hey! Lets not be insulting Gargoyles. They actually have a purpose in life.

Gargoyles were commonly used in medieval times. … Their two main purposes were to scare off evil, and to divert rainwater. Many had open mouths and long necks because they functioned as downspouts to divert rainwater from building foundations.

Rudy, not so much. He is evil and actively worked to destroy the foundation of this Country.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:12:26am
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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:13:12am

re: #297 No Malarkey!

Mike Dunford weighs in:

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:16:29am

Waiting for a call back from a local RV dealer to come out and give me an estimate on resealing the roof and replacing the broken wind screens.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:16:49am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:16:51am

Local Miami news is reporting that the collapsed building was in the process of inspections for recertification. Apparently, there’s a 40 year recertification that buildings have to go through.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:17:15am

re: #308 Dr Lizardo

It failed.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:17:57am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

currently only temporary.

but given the bullshit he was spewing for so long I wonder why it took until today to shut his operation down

As they say, the wheels of justice grind slowly.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:18:48am

re: #304 (((Archangel1)))

This clown shot this himself without even pointing a monitor in his direction.
I see “Daddy, please love me,” just like the Trump boys.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:18:55am

re: #304 (((Archangel1)))

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KingKenrod  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:21:01am

re: #312 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

The guy is a blowhard of the highest order, I’m sure the wingers love him.

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:21:37am

re: #312 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

Sounds like Andy Boy is pissed that if his dad gets disbarred, he won’t be able to handle the legal work for Andrew’s campaign for governor….

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:22:11am

re: #309 lawhawk

It failed.

Indeed. According to the Miami news, inspectors have said that they’d seen nothing that would indicate that a catastrophic failure was imminent.

JFC, that’s someone nightmare fuel….your building just straight-up collapses in the middle of the night. I’ve seen some interior photos on real estate sites of the condo units Champlain Tower South, and they were nice. Shit, if I had a cool million bucks just sitting around gathering dust, I’d have been tempted to buy one. Some nice looking digs, especially the ones with full terraces, with ocean views. Sweet as hell.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:22:55am

re: #314 Jay C

Sounds like Andy Boy is pissed that if his dad gets disbarred, he won’t be able to handle the legal work for Andrew’s campaign for governor….

When he loses, he’ll have to hire Powell or Wood to stop the steal!

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:23:33am

re: #312 No Malarkey!

He shot it in a parking lot.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

BWHAHAHA

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:24:50am

re: #317 lawhawk

He shot it in a parking lot.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

BWHAHAHA

It’s a family tradition.

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Targetpractice  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:24:58am

re: #317 lawhawk

He shot it in a parking lot.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

BWHAHAHA

Guess all the local landscaping companies were booked today.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:25:34am

re: #317 lawhawk

He shot it in a parking lot.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

BWHAHAHA

Does Four Seasons Total Landscaping have a New York branch?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:25:40am

re: #315 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, and every other contemporary condo complex will likely need to be inspected across FL for the same kind of failure points, once they identify a root cause. That means if it was a sinkhole or underground subsidence, going and doing geotechnical analysis to make sure other buildings are on stable ground. If it was a structural failure, it means doing testing/reviewing of structure on site, and not merely review of plans as designed.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:26:49am

re: #321 lawhawk

Yeah, and every other contemporary condo complex will likely need to be inspected across FL for the same kind of failure points, once they identify a root cause. That means if it was a sinkhole or underground subsidence, going and doing geotechnical analysis to make sure other buildings are on stable ground. If it was a structural failure, it means doing testing/reviewing of structure on site, and not merely review of plans as designed.

Yeah, I’d say buildings of that vintage need to be looked over with a fine tooth comb.

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aatharuv  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:27:01am

re: #317 lawhawk

He shot it in a parking lot.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a *parking lot*.

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

He shot it in a parking lot!!!!

BWHAHAHA

He searched for Four Seasons Landscaping, and ended up reaching Four Seasons Landscaping Parking, Inc.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:27:35am

re: #321 lawhawk

Yeah, and every other contemporary condo complex will likely need to be inspected across FL for the same kind of failure points, once they identify a root cause. That means if it was a sinkhole or underground subsidence, going and doing geotechnical analysis to make sure other buildings are on stable ground. If it was a structural failure, it means doing testing/reviewing of structure on site, and not merely review of plans as designed.

Republicans there will pass a low outlawing critical infrastructure theory.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:29:15am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

They really don’t want enlisted scum…service members

[Embedded content]

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:30:50am

re: #319 Targetpractice

Guess all the local landscaping companies were booked today.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 24, 2021 • 10:41:43am

re: #17 Belafon

Tomorrow is my last work day this week because, on Friday, I have to drive my son 2.5 hours from here to get to a Texas DMV we could get an appointment at to get his learners permit.

Department of Redundancy Department:

I went to the local DMV to upgrade-my-TN-driver-license-to-Real-ID status, so I can fly commercial after May 3, 2023. I can take a hint - figured I’d beat the rush.

So I get a Real TN ID, showing the same documents I used to get my TN driver’s license years before.

Time to renew my passport so I can vote.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 24, 2021 • 11:03:09am

re: #106 lawhawk

Electric vehicles have higher torque, faster response, and better center of gravity than an ICE. Hybrids split the difference - even with more weight for having the hybrid add on, it still adds to torque and HP to the wheels (and braking).

So this could end up being even faster 0-60, 0-100, etc., than the gas equivalent model.

They still know how to make gorgeous looking cars no matter the propulsion.

When I need acceleration to merge, the instant torque from the electric motor in my hybrid kicks in a lot faster than turbo boost in any turbo charged car I’ve driven. And it’s a hoot to drive on electric power only below certain speeds.

My next car will also be a hybrid.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 24, 2021 • 11:43:34am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Let’s hope so. That place was built in the early 1980s and as my old friend Kim pointed out (she’s a lifelong Miami resident), the chances are above average that the building’s construction was substandard. The 80s was a very corrupt time in the Miami area, with cocaine money fueling a construction boom. The work was done fast, and done cheap.

In the mid 1980s, Miami-Dade indicted a bunch of contractors and building inspectors for payoffs for construction inspections that were never done.

One of the contractors was our client.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 24, 2021 • 11:52:16am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

All those millions in easy cocaine dinero were flooding in, day after day, week after week, and pretty much everyone wanted a piece of that action. As Kim (and her friends) told me, it was an economic boom unlike any other - though granted, from a nefarious source.

It was Miami, and the rules were different.

Form 8300 didn’t exist.


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