New Music From the Great James McMurtry: “If It Don’t Bleed”

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From the new album ‘The Horses and the Hounds,’ out August 20th (@New West Records): newwst.com

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LYRICS:
looking back down the road from a little ways out
I never had a fear and I never had a doubt
if I’d had a lick of sense I’d have figured that out pretty fast
but I wasn’t any smarter than the average kid
somebody might’ve noticed, but I never did
I never saw the future fading right into the past
talking to the wallpaper, wandering the halls
I burned a lot of bridges and I dropped a lot of balls
it’s a wonder I can ever go back to anyplace I’ve been
but I wouldn’t get down on my knees on a bet
I’m near enough to Jesus as I ever want to get
seeking salvation isn’t part of my general plan

(chorus)

save your prayers for yourself
I raise my glass to your health
I don’t mind if you don’t look like me
I can share my bread and wine
I come from another time
it don’t matter all that much if it don’t bleed
if it don’t bleed

now it’s all I can do just to get out of bed
there’s more in the mirror than there is up ahead
I smile and I nod like I heard what you said every time
so run another rack, pour another shot
you don’t get it back so give it all you got
while you still got a more or less functional body and mind

(chorus)

I learned to answer my calls and open my mail
I paid my taxes and I stayed out of jail
you stay in the game when you’re too broke to fail
that’s a fact
talking to the wallpaper, sleeping in the hall
bones get brittle so you better not fall
you slow to a crawl and time gets to balling the jack
run you right off the track

(chorus)

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359 comments
1
Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 5:46:04pm

Cool thread on the formation of Appalachia.

2
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2021 • 5:48:08pm

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

Cool thread on the formation of Appalachia.

seafloor as far as the eye could see.

3
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2021 • 5:48:58pm

...

4
Rightwingconspirator  Jul 15, 2021 • 5:49:07pm

That just be my new favorite from James M.

5
I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 15, 2021 • 5:56:51pm

Great song. this is my fav song of his. Childish Things

Youtube Video

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2021 • 5:57:23pm

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

“Life is old there… “
I wear a trilobite fossil around my neck as a reminder of what the word time really means.

It’s a new thing; only a half billion years old…

7
jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:05:15pm

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

Interesting that Florida was dropped off here by Gondwanaland.

8
Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:05:36pm

re: #7 jaunte

Interesting that Florida was dropped off here by Gondwanaland.

I would be very happy if Europe took that back, thank you very much.

9
jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:08:38pm

Deadly oops.

10
Teukka  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:09:12pm

[accent type=scottish]Brilliant. Foookin’ Brilliant.[/accent]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:15:47pm

Tea Party Express…

12
Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:20:23pm
13
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:23:51pm
14
Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:24:50pm
15
jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:27:25pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s hard to run a fear campaign about the origin of a virus that you also claim is fairly harmless.

16
jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:28:02pm

Pick a lane, incoherent conservatives.

17
Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:28:36pm

re: #16 jaunte

Pick a lane, incoherent conservatives.

Nah, they’re going to be like that guy behind me on the road earlier today, driving down the middle of the road in a construction zone.

18
darthstar  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:30:03pm
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jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:30:41pm

re: #18 darthstar

Dogface spice.

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darthstar  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:35:13pm

James McMurtry is the one artist I want to see live more than anyone else except maybe Jason Isbell. Together would be good, BTW.

21
darthstar  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:36:19pm

re: #19 jaunte

Dogface spice.

Merle is almost always in my food pics. He likes lamb! So does Milo it turns out.

22
Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:38:37pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Cities across America would be on fire. No way people would take that shit sitting down (as one normally takes shits).

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:40:52pm

re: #20 darthstar

James McMurtry is the one artist I want to see live more than anyone else except maybe Jason Isbell. Together would be good, BTW.

I’d love to see him too. I saw Jason three years ago. It was a double bill with Brandi Carlisle. I love Brandi. But her fans were obnoxious. They were talking through Jason’s entire set (at Bank of NH Pavilion). I want to see him in a club or similar venue where he’s not the supporting act.

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:48:19pm

re: #20 darthstar

That would be a fantastic show! Hard to believe I’ve never seen McMurty. Bucket list for sure.

25
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:48:28pm
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jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:50:38pm

Carlson continues to agitate for violence.

27
jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:53:55pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:56:43pm

ask and you shall receive:

jamesmcmurtry.com

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:56:55pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2021 • 6:57:41pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

When Bubonic Plague 2.0 comes to town, Republicans aren’t going to live long enough to make the same arguments that they did against COVID.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:00:50pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:01:14pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

This is why we drink. Slainte.

33
Teukka  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:01:19pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:03:25pm

The War Against the Chtorr
en.wikipedia.org

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:04:10pm

I’m wondering what bacterium or viruses have been locked in permafrost for thousands of years…until now…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:04:29pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

It showed how quickly we can develop vaccines. I always thought a virus would wipe us out one day, but I think that’s a lot less likely now.

Natural selection is back in effect for humanity for the first time in my lifetime. Contrarian narcissists are killing themselves because they can’t accept anything done for the common good, and convince themselves they know better, after being fine despite that attitude until now.

The most aggravating people in the country are in a death cult, and Delta is the Flavor Aid.

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Teukka  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:04:50pm

re: #35 JOE 🥓

I’m wondering what bacterium or viruses have been locked in permafrost for thousands of years…until now…

Not to mention the CH4

38
JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:16:26pm

Uh oh! Lin Wood is gonna get butt-bongoed!

Judge Orders Lin Wood to Explain Why He Shouldn’t Be Disciplined for Posting Video of His Sanctions Hearing Online

lawandcrime.com

Attorney Lin Wood, a stalwart supporter of former president Donald Trump leading up to and after the 2020 election, was ordered Thursday evening to explain to a federal judge why he should not be punished for posting video of his own recent sanctions hearing on Telegram.

In issuing Thursday evening’s two-page order, Judge Linda V. Parker, a Barack Obama appointee to U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Michigan, declined to consider holding Wood in “criminal contempt of court” over the recent Telegram post. But it did consider that Wood might need to be “disciplined in accordance with” another local court rule.

The rule Judge Parker identified, Local Rule 83.22(d), allows a judge to discipline an attorney by means other than suspension or disbarment (from the Eastern District of Michigan specifically). Among the possible reasons for discipline include the rather broad rationale that the attorney engaged in “conduct unbecoming of a member of the bar of this court.”

Fuck Lin Wood. Judge Parker needs to blister his butt beet red.

39
Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:17:08pm

Speaking of cults, I like Yuengling Lager just fine, but some folks on my FB are recently posting about it like it’s the Second Coming. It reminds me of Coors back in the 1970s when getting a rogue trailer full of Coors across the Mississippi river was the plot point in a semi-major summer movie. I’ve lived in Yuengling-land in VA and found the local craft scene far superior, even in the similar lager category.

Again, it’s perfectly fine; a better choice than Bud. But I don’t get the worship.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:19:53pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

Speaking of cults, I like Yuengling Lager just fine, but some folks on my FB are recently posting about it like it’s the Second Coming. It reminds me of Coors back in the 1970s when getting a rogue trailer full of Coors across the Mississippi river was the plot point in a semi-major summer movie. I’ve lived in Yuengling-land in VA and found the local craft scene far superior, even in the similar lager category.

Again, it’s perfectly fine; a better choice than Bud. But I don’t get the worship.

I remember their ice cream to die for!

Especially Teaberry!

yuenglingsicecream.com

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:23:54pm

re: #40 JOE 🥓

I remember their ice cream to die for!

Especially Teaberry!

yuenglingsicecream.com

Whoa. I care more about ice cream than I do beer, but that’s just a normal healthy response; nothing cultish about ice cream devotion. (I have never had this.)

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:28:28pm

re: #41 Barefoot Grin

Whoa. I care more about ice cream than I do beer, but that’s just a normal healthy response; nothing cultish about ice cream devotion. (I have never had this.)

Nobody else makes Teaberry Ice Cream. If you remember Clark’s Teaberry gun that’s how it tastes. That and Straub Beer are what I really miss from Pennsylvania.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:29:09pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Because of science it hasn’t been 1918 bad, which wasn’t black plague bad.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:29:51pm

re: #42 JOE 🥓

[Embedded content]

Nobody else makes Teaberry Ice Cream. If you remember Clark’s Teaberry gun that’s how it tastes. That and Straub Beer are what I really miss from Pennsylvania.

I’m not going to google. Going to see if I can do it by memory: Beeman’s Teaberry Gum

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:30:52pm

re: #44 Barefoot Grin

I’m not going to google. Going to see if I can do it by memory: Beeman’s Teaberry Gum

Just googled: yep. A gum from my childhood.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:31:25pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:32:02pm

re: #45 Barefoot Grin

Just googled: yep. A gum from my childhood.

No! It was Clarkes. D’oh.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:32:31pm

re: #46 Belafon

“hey, hey, hey”

49
JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:37:26pm

re: #47 Barefoot Grin

No! It was Clarkes. D’oh.

Remember Herb Alpert’s Teaberry Shuffle Commercial?

Teaberry Gum Commercial 1960’s Herb Alpert Teaberry Shuffle

Youtube Video

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:38:56pm

re: #42 JOE 🥓

[Embedded content]

Nobody else makes Teaberry Ice Cream. If you remember Clark’s Teaberry gun that’s how it tastes. That and Straub Beer are what I really miss from Pennsylvania.

Keep Anakin Skywalker away from that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:44:27pm

re: #45 Barefoot Grin

Just googled: yep. A gum from my childhood.

You can still buy teaberry gum today. (I loved Clark’s as a child, though my grandparents did everything they could to keep me away from gum.)

amazon.com

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:48:30pm

Memories of old commercials for Beech-Nut Gum with The Four Seasons

1966 Beech-Nut Gum Commercial (Frankie Valli & the Four Seasons)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:49:44pm

re: #49 JOE 🥓

Remember Herb Alpert’s Teaberry Shuffle Commercial?

[Embedded content]

I’m sure I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember it.

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You can still buy teaberry gum today. (I loved Clark’s as a child, though my grandparents did everything they could to keep me away from gum.)

amazon.com

I think the closest thing I would buy now would be Neccos. To me, they taste like chalk. But my dad always loved them. He’s a bit beyond memory now at 96, but taste and smell are good ways to bring back some memories.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:50:22pm

And do you remember Sour Old Man Adams?

ADAMS SOUR GUM COMMERCIAL - VINTAGE 1960’s AD

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:58:53pm

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure I’ve seen it, but I don’t remember it.

I think the closest thing I would buy now would be Neccos. To me, they taste like chalk. But my dad always loved them. He’s a bit beyond memory now at 96, but taste and smell are good ways to bring back some memories.

I love Neccos. Spangler Candy is back marketing them today.

Necco Wafers make their triumphant return 2 years after the factory that made them closed its doors (CNN, May 31, 2020)

The original formula remains unchanged for seven of the eight original flavors. Lemon (yellow), lime (green), orange (orange), clove (light purple), cinnamon (white), wintergreen (pink) and licorice (dark grey) will taste the same, but there were minor improvements made to chocolate (brown) to add a richer cocoa flavor.

The same wax paper is also being used to package the candy, so Necco lovers will still feel that sense of nostalgia every time they grab a roll.

“We know fans have been waiting anxiously for the return of Necco Wafers and anticipate high demand,” Vashaw said. “Our production lines will continue to run as fast as possible to keep stores in-stock.”

The wafers will begin to hit the shelves of major drugstores and pharmacies in early June, followed by shipments to other major retailers.

(more)

Neccos are available here at the two nearest markets to my town.

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Dangerman  Jul 15, 2021 • 7:59:52pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ridiculous that it’s taken 18 months for House Dems to hold a hearing on the origins of COVID. If we want to keep another pandemic like this in the future, we have to get to the bottom of how this one started.

why?
would it change the response at all?
a: no.

57
Dangerman  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:02:37pm

re: #38 JOE 🥓

Uh oh! Lin Wood is gonna get butt-bongoed!

Judge Orders Lin Wood to Explain Why He Shouldn’t Be Disciplined for Posting Video of His Sanctions Hearing Online

lawandcrime.com

Attorney Lin Wood, a stalwart supporter of former president Donald Trump leading up to and after the 2020 election, was ordered Thursday evening to explain to a federal judge why he should not be punished for posting video of his own recent sanctions hearing on Telegram.

In issuing Thursday evening’s two-page order, Judge Linda V. Parker, a Barack Obama appointee to U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Michigan, declined to consider holding Wood in “criminal contempt of court” over the recent Telegram post. But it did consider that Wood might need to be “disciplined in accordance with” another local court rule.

The rule Judge Parker identified, Local Rule 83.22(d), allows a judge to discipline an attorney by means other than suspension or disbarment (from the Eastern District of Michigan specifically). Among the possible reasons for discipline include the rather broad rationale that the attorney engaged in “conduct unbecoming of a member of the bar of this court.”

Fuck Lin Wood. Judge Parker needs to blister his butt beet red.

he did it
he knew it
why ask why?

58
mmmirele  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:03:21pm

Well, gosh, (some) religious types are just pig ignorant. To wit:

In many COVID hot spots, a pattern: High concentrations of white evangelicals

‘It’s clear that the pattern is more white evangelical Protestants equals lower vaccination rates,’ said Natalie Jackson, research director at the Public Religion Research Institute.

(RNS) — As COVID-19 cases surge again, two things are true about many counties considered hot spots: Vaccination rates are low and white evangelical Protestant populations are high, according to a new data analysis.

Concern about vaccine hesitancy or outright anti-vaccine sentiment among white evangelicals has persisted since at least March, when, according to a poll from Pew Research Center, those who said they were Christian and born-again were far more likely than any other religious group to say they definitely or probably would not get a vaccine.

A full 45% of white evangelicals fit this description. The next-closest religious classification (Americans who list their religious affiliation as “nothing in particular”) was a full 9 points lower at 36%, which was also the national average.

And an example:

PRRI’s researchers found the population of white evangelicals to be especially high in Missouri counties where COVID-19 vaccination rates for people age 12 or older were 20% or lower. There, members of the faith group make up 49% of the population on average. In counties with vaccination rates between 20% and 40%, white evangelicals constitute 42% of the populace.

In counties where vaccination rates ranged from 40% to 60%, white evangelicals’ share of the population plummeted to 30%.

“It’s clear that the pattern is more white evangelical Protestants equals lower vaccination rates,” said Natalie Jackson, PRRI’s research director.

The data matches local surveys conducted by the Missouri Hospital Association. When the group released data in April, the only faith group it singled out was white evangelicals, indicating 38% were vaccine hesitant. Experts believe the sentiment can have dire consequences: According to a recent analysis from The Washington Post, hospitalizations due to COVID-19 — as well as case rates overall — are strongly correlated with low vaccination rates.

Missouri hospitals have been overrun with a surge in COVID-19 cases in recent weeks, with hospitals requesting extra ventilators and bringing in traveling nurses to handle the caseload. As ICU units swell, Steve Edwards, CEO of Missouri-based hospital system CoxHealth, has pleaded with locals to get vaccinated.

religionnews.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:05:14pm

Christian conservative persecution complex incoming (1:43)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:06:40pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You can still buy teaberry gum today. (I loved Clark’s as a child, though my grandparents did everything they could to keep me away from gum.)

amazon.com

This was my fav as a kid.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:07:09pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Christian conservative persecution complex incoming (1:43)

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Did Pulpit Pimp’s Mistress steal his passport?

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:07:28pm

“…THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — Coronavirus infections in the Netherlands skyrocketed by more than 500% over the last week, the country’s public health institute reported Tuesday. The surge follows the scrapping of almost all remaining lockdown restrictions and the reopening of night clubs in late June.

The weekly update showing that nearly 52,000 people in the Netherlands tested positive for COVID-19 over the past week came a day after caretaker Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte apologized for the June 26 lockdown relaxation and called it “an error of judgment.”

Rutte backtracked Friday and reintroduced some restrictions in an attempt to rein in the soaring infection rate. Bars again have to close at midnight, while discotheques and clubs were shuttered again until at least Aug. 13.

The Netherlands, along with other European nations, is facing a rise in infections fueled by the more contagious delta variant just as governments hoped to greatly ease or eliminate remaining pandemic restrictions during the summer holiday season.”
apnews.com

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:08:27pm

I second that, Aunt Crabby!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:16:57pm

re: #61 JOE 🥓

Did Pulpit Pimp’s Mistress steal his passport?

More likely he had this trip planned for weeks, and only checked for it on the day of the flight.

Now he wants his poor planning to be everyone else’s emergency, and it it’s not, you’re persecuting Christians and conservative.

Here it takes about three months to get a passport, and we have to apply at the district court (the only place here which takes passport applications). They only take applications one day a month. If you missed a piece of documentation or something, you’d better hope you can get home and back before they close.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:20:47pm

Severe thunderstorm warning for Albin, Wyoming extends into Nebraska.

(The running joke around here is all roads in Wyoming lead to Albin, which has about 300 people. There are exits for it from Interstate 80, signs for it in far western Nebraska, signs from US-85 from Cheyenne to Torrington, &c)

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Dangerman  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:20:48pm

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gwangung  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:23:16pm

re: #56 Dangerman

why?
would it change the response at all?
a: no.

It took over 22 years to figure out the origins of SARS 1…18 months is nothing.

You Rs are just dicking around to make Dems look bad…you think..

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:49:45pm

Tap tap…
This thing on?

69
Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:54:03pm

re: #68 Rightwingconspirator

Tap tap…
This thing on?

70
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:56:58pm

In the category “conservatism is a religion”:

Arizona 6th Senate District Senator Wendy Rogers (R-wingnut), is calling for the entire 2020 election to be re-run.

QAnon AZ Senator Demands Do-Over Of 2020 Election (Joe My God, July 15, 2021)

Arizona’s Republicans held onto the state Senate last year, which was very good news for Wendy Rogers. The Air Force veteran, who’d lost five out of five previous elections, defeated a fellow Republican by accusing her of being soft on crime. In Phoenix, Rogers cast decisive votes to alter the state’s election laws and audit its 2020 vote; on Twitter, she began using a term she had never used as a private citizen.

“Based,” Rogers tweeted, after Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) pledged to oppose any immigration reform bill. “You are not ‘based,’” she tweeted in June, “if you support candidates who are not ‘based.’” When the city of Charlottesville, finally removed a statue of Robert E. Lee, she warned that anyone who did not back the defeated Confederate general was not — you guessed it — “based.”

(more)

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:58:38pm

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

idiot

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JC1  Jul 15, 2021 • 8:59:16pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More likely he had this trip planned for weeks, and only checked for it on the day of the flight.

Now he wants his poor planning to be everyone else’s emergency, and it it’s not, you’re persecuting Christians and conservative.

Here it takes about three months to get a passport, and we have to apply at the district court (the only place here which takes passport applications). They only take applications one day a month. If you missed a piece of documentation or something, you’d better hope you can get home and back before they close.

It is possible to get a passport on the same day, or at least it was pre covid. You had to go to one of the dozen or so passport offices in person and have an international ticket departing within the next week. Cost extra, but it was possible.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:05:18pm

re: #61 JOE 🥓

Yesterday I saw a tweet that passports are backlogged and will take several weeks to process.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:06:10pm

re: #72 JC1

It is possible to get a passport on the same day, or at least it was pre covid. You had to go to one of the dozen or so passport offices in person and have an international ticket departing within the next week. Cost extra, but it was possible.

There are still one-day passport agencies. Still costs you.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:07:59pm

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the category “conservatism is a religion”:

Arizona 6th Senate District Senator Wendy Rogers (R-wingnut), is calling for the entire 2020 election to be re-run.

QAnon AZ Senator Demands Do-Over Of 2020 Election (Joe My God, July 15, 2021)

(more)

The “Fuck Your Feelings” crowd continues to have a really hard time getting over their sadness over losing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:08:14pm

re: #71 retired cynic

idiot

She’s not an idiot, she’s a liar. She knows this is impossible, she also knows how to keep up the grift for conservative voters to keep voting for billionaire tax cuts and deregulation.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:08:57pm

re: #73 Dread Pirate Ron

Yesterday I saw a tweet that passports are backlogged and will take several weeks to process.

Yes, they’re saying that “standard” processing takes eight weeks or so (or were the last time I looked). But expedited processing is still available and still very fast (or was earlier this year when I renewed mine).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:15:57pm

re: #68 Rightwingconspirator

Tap tap…
This thing on?

Microphone Tap and Feedback Squeal

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:26:21pm

And Good Night I’m out for now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:33:20pm

Head of group representing churches in COVID-19 challenge takes leave after having Manitoba judge followed (CBC)

The president of a group representing multiple churches across the country fighting COVID-19 public health orders in court is taking indefinite leave after admitting he hired private investigators to follow both a judge presiding over the case in Manitoba and some senior government officials.

The board of the Alberta-based Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (JCCF) [a conservative legal group in Canada] said Tuesday morning that the group’s founder and president, Calgary-based lawyer John Carpay, was taking an indefinite leave, effective immediately.

“Surveilling public officials is not what we do. We condemn what was done without reservation,” the board said in a release, apologizing to Chief Justice Glenn Joyal of the Manitoba Court of Queen’s Bench “for the alarm, disturbance, and violation of privacy.

“All such activity has ceased and will not reoccur in future.”

Joyal said on Monday morning he’d been tailed by a private investigator in an attempt to catch him breaking COVID-19 rules in order to embarrass him while he presides over a court challenge related to the province’s lockdown measures.

Joyal revealed the information during a hearing for the case, which was brought forward by seven rural Manitoba churches represented by the JCCF.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:38:44pm

(WDIV-TV, Detroit)

Prime Minister Trudeau: Fully vaccinated Americans can enter Canada as of mid August

TORONTO - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Thursday Canada could start allowing fully vaccinated Americans into Canada as of mid-August for non-essential travel and should be in a position to welcome fully vaccinated travelers from all countries by early September.

Trudeau spoke with leaders of Canada’s provinces on Thursday and his office released a readout of the call. He noted that if Canada’s current positive path of vaccination rate and public health conditions continue the border can open.

“Canada would be in a position to welcome fully vaccinated travelers from all countries by early September,” the readout said. “He noted the ongoing discussions with the United States on reopening plans, and indicated that we could expect to start allowing fully vaccinated U.S. citizens and permanent residents into Canada as of mid-August for non-essential travel.”

Trudeau noted Canada continues to lead G20 countries in vaccination rates with approximately 80% of eligible Canadians vaccinated with their first dose and over 50% of eligible Canadians fully vaccinated. He said case numbers and severe illness continue to decline across the country as vaccination rates continue to increase.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:40:38pm

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(WDIV-TV, Detroit)

Prime Minister Trudeau: Fully vaccinated Americans can enter Canada as of mid August

(more)

Because experience here in the US so far shows that the average American can be trusted not to lie about their vaccination status in order to bypass measures intended to keep non-vaccinated folks from continuing to spread the virus…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:42:55pm

The flooding in Germany seems to be not just bad, but borderline catastrophic:

Devastating flooding in Germany has killed nearly 60 people, with more than a thousand missing in one district alone, as Chancellor Angela Merkel expressed deep sympathy for victims of a “catastrophe” whose extent will only be seen in the coming days.

On Thursday night, authorities in the district of Ahrweiler in western Germany said the death toll was expected to climb, with about 1,300 people believed to be missing, due partly to damage to mobile phone networks.

In the town of Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler alone, more than 1,000 rescue missions were carried out on Thursday, with some ongoing.

theguardian.com

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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:44:41pm

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Have we heard from Wendell today?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:46:24pm

re: #84 retired cynic

Have we heard from Wendell today?

It’s 6:45 a.m. here in Central Europe. I’m up early for work (well, that and I’m one of those natural early birds where my body clock pretty much automatically wakes me up every morning at 4:30 a.m.).

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:46:38pm

I just listened to Squid’s album “Bright Green Field.” Magnificent weirdness! It’s like Minutemen meets Les Claypool meets old Modest Mouse in the spirit of Captain Beefheart. There’s a lot of imagination in the sound, one of the most interesting records I’ve heard in years.

This tune slaps.

Squid - Paddling (Official Audio)

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:51:52pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

It still amazing that voices, drums, bass, guitars, and keyboards can surprise me. Music is rad.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 15, 2021 • 9:59:55pm

re: #34 jaunte

Ah, the only ecology that looks at Australia and says “Hold my beer”…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:05:26pm

Somewhat rare cold weather funnel clouds in Omaha today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:06:44pm

This time it’s Coke Zero.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:08:30pm

re: #88 Sufficient unto the day…

Ah, the only ecology that looks at Australia and says “Hold my beer”…

Nah, that’s Tuchanka from Mass Effect. Take a planet where everything (including the flora) is carnivorous and under constant pressure to dominate or be wiped out, watch as natural selection gives rise to an apex species that has triple-redundant organ systems and a hump like a camel that allows them to survive for days without nutrients or fluids, then marvel at how that species proceeds to reach the Atomic Age before nuking itself to the brink of extinction. Only for it to then be uplifted straight up to the Galactic Age into order to fight a war on hellworlds where the local environment struggles just to slow the bastards down.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:08:47pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This time it’s Coke Zero.

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Memories of 1985 when Bill Cosby introduced New Coke and it tasted like the cola version of Fizzies…BTW do they even make Fizzies anymore? Haven’t seen them in years!

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Egregious Philbin  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:18:10pm

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wendy is such a loser. She ran for US congress 3 times and got walloped, she didn’t even show up for a debate with then representative Kristen Cinema. She ran again in a different district and lost, and lost again in a primary. Then she moved up to a stupid, nutty land up north where her brand of lunacy was spot on.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:19:26pm

re: #92 JOE 🥓

Memories of 1985 when Bill Cosby introduced New Coke and it tasted like the cola version of Fizzies…BTW do they even make Fizzies anymore? Haven’t seen them in years!

Why yes, they do.

Fizzies Candy Beverage (Goes to The Candy Store)

Twelve “action tablets” in six boxes for about twenty bucks.

They say they are out-of stock at the moment.

Fizzies candy drinks have a long, winding history throughout American culture. Developed in the 50s by Emerson Drug company, the company soon came under the Warner Lambert umbrella and gained national distribution. It became famous for many TV and movie appearances, including National Lampoon’s Animal House. Unfortunately for Fizzies, in 1968 the FDA banned cyclamates, which it used to sweeten the drink mix. Unable to find an alternative, Fizzies disappeared from the market for 30 years. With the introduction of aspartame in the frm of NutraSweet, Fizzies made a comeback in the 90s. That form of Fizzies failed as well. Only in the 2000s, with the introduction of sucralose, has the brand made a sustained comeback. It is currently available in a number of flavors, and is packaged just like the original.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:21:45pm

re: #62 jaunte

“New daily cases in the Netherlands increased from 500 on June 25, a day before restrictions were dropped, to over 10,000 on Saturday. New coronavirus cases in the Netherlands skyrocketed by more than 500 percent last week, according to the health authorities”.

Let’s see if there is a concomitant rise in deaths, or if the cases turn out to be milder. It’s too soon to observe any effect on mortality, but we should have an answer over the next couple weeks.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:24:28pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Amazon doesn’t have Fizzies. Just curious, I’ll keep looking.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:29:49pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This time it’s Coke Zero.

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They just changed Coke Zero like 3 or 4 years ago to bring the US version in line with the international version. They are doing it again why? It sells well enough, it’s not like they are trying to rev up an unpopular product.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:31:37pm

I have a strong desire to put a plaque on the front of our desk at work that reads “Lack of planning on your part does NOT constitute an emergency on my part.”

Perhaps it might stop some of these morons who come in at o’dark thirty the day before they have to check out and give me all sorts of shit about how they need to extend their room another day during a sold-out weekend because “My family has to have a place to stay!” And then telling me about how they saw the one available room that’s always smaller than the one they’re staying in online for way cheaper, then get upset when I tell them they need to book that room online if they want that rate because this hotel isn’t a branch of Expedia.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:46:21pm

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teleskiguy  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:52:27pm

New Umphrey’s McGee.

Le Sac

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JOE 🥓  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:54:03pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 10:58:21pm

Thread, fifteen tweets. We had soda fountains in the county seat in Michigan until the mid-Seventies, and in my village until the late Sixties.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:07:21pm

Wingnut letter in the Omaha World-Herald concerning the proposed state education standards, which have wingnuts’ panties in a bunch because they “gasp” teach things such as “gay people exist.”

The State Board of Education is not proposing health standards but sexual perversion by East and West Coast far-left liberals. Of course the board denies this.

If they really wanted to teach 5-, 6- and 7-year-olds about health, they should be teaching them to wash their hands after going to the bathroom and before eating, mind mommie and daddy, eat your veggies, drink plenty of water, get a good night’s sleep and get your vaccinations.

There’s a simple solution to what the board is doing — stop this perversion and then vote these liberal activists off the board and replace them with those that have good moral character.

Gary Kelsch, Grand Island, Neb.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:19:17pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnut letter in the Omaha World-Herald concerning the proposed state education standards, which have wingnuts’ panties in a bunch because they “gasp” teach thing such as “gay people exist.”

Gotta keep them ignorant, else they might ask questions like “Why do we gotta hate the gays?” and “Is it wrong for me to like other boys?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:21:15pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

Gotta keep them ignorant, else they might ask questions like “Why do we gotta hate the gays?” and “Is it wrong for me to like other boys?”

And “we have to hate the liberal coastal elites,” like those in Nebraska proposing those changes. The state education board which is elected by voters in this state.

Conservatives are outnumbered even here.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:24:53pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And “we have to hate the liberal coastal elites,” like those in Nebraska proposing those changes. The state education board which is elected by voters in this state.

Conservatives are outnumbered even here.

What these nimrods don’t quite get is that the more they try to cling to the hate and bigotry, the more reasons they give those kids to grow up and flee to the lands of those “liberal coastal elites.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:29:36pm

The Alabama Supreme Court refuses to hear the case of a Christian apologist and pastor who was sentenced to 1,008 years for sexual abuse of children.

His claim was he was sexually abused as a child and suffered from PTSD, causing him to abuse children from his position as a church leader.

The case was denied with no written opinion by the state Supreme Court.

Acton Bowen had an audience of millions and was broadcast to over 150 countries spreading the Christian love (of children).

Another Protestant child rapist who does not get the press he should because he’s not a Catholic child rapist.

The books he is a best-selling author for are children’s books on Christianity.

The Alabama State Supreme Court denied to review the case of Acton Bowen, the evangelist who served as a youth minister for teenage boys and became a best-selling author before he plead guilty to sex crimes with young boys spanning more than a decade. Bowen is currently in prison serving the maximum sentence for all 28 charges related to sexually abusing six teenagers in Etowah County. The sentences are to be served consecutively which means Bowen would serve roughly 1,008 years before being released.

Bowen pleaded guilty in 2019 just as jury selection for his trial was set to begin. Many of the victims, some of whom are now adults, were in the courtroom when the sentence was announced.

The victims claimed the evangelist sexually abused them for months or in some cases, years from 2006 to as recently as April 2018.

(more, NBC Birmingham)

Acton Bowen denied appeal by Alabama State Supreme Court

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:34:35pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Alabama Supreme Court refuses to hear the case of a Christian apologist and pastor who was sentenced to 1,008 years for sexual abuse of children.

His claim was he was sexually abused as a child and suffered from PTSD, causing him to abuse children from his position as a church leader.

The case was denied with no written opinion by the state Supreme Court.

Acton Bowen had an audience of millions and was broadcast to over 150 countries spreading the Christian love (of children).

Another Protestant child rapist who does not get the press he should because he’s not a Catholic child rapist.

The books he is a best-selling author for are children’s books on Christianity.

(more, NBC Birmingham)

Acton Bowen denied appeal by Alabama State Supreme Court

Gee, I can’t imagine why the church is having more and more difficulty finding new converts…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:37:35pm

re: #108 Targetpractice

Gee, I can’t imagine why the church is having more and more difficulty finding new converts…

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They search for their “converts” everywhere, for example, the Olympics.

The news of Bowen’s arrest in 2018 shocked many in east Alabama’s Christian community where he was considered a hometown hero. Bowen had served as chaplain for the 2012 Olympics, made appearances on Fox News, and promoted himself as a spiritual adviser to Hollywood Stars including Justin Beiber.

They’re shocked? No church leader can be trusted with children. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.—Ian Flemming

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:46:59pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They search for their “converts” everywhere, for example, the Olympics.

They’re shocked? No church leader can be trusted with children. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.—Ian Flemming

Reminding us again that the real problem that most Evangelicals have with Islam is that they hate competition.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:52:35pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

Reminding us again that the real problem that most Evangelicals have with Islam is that they hate competition.

Christianity Today ran an article of child-rape apologetics amongst the home-school crowd. They are getting dragged, such as this thread from RL Stollar, a Christian apologist and writer but no longer an Evangelical:

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:55:17pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

I have a strong desire to put a plaque on the front of our desk at work that reads “Lack of planning on your part does NOT constitute an emergency on my part.”

Perhaps it might stop some of these morons who come in at o’dark thirty the day before they have to check out and give me all sorts of shit about how they need to extend their room another day during a sold-out weekend because “My family has to have a place to stay!” And then telling me about how they saw the one available room that’s always smaller than the one they’re staying in online for way cheaper, then get upset when I tell them they need to book that room online if they want that rate because this hotel isn’t a branch of Expedia.

Oh yeah. This weekend is the Pow-Wow at the rez. Booked solid all week. Phone ringing off the hook with people, some crying, trying to find a room that they were to foolish to not secure earlier. I have little sympathy for people like the four motorcycle bikers yesterday who were looking for a room when they got tired of riding.

Someone’s in a car? It’s summer. It’s temperate around here. Sleep in the car, I’ve done it more than once.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:57:28pm

It sure does.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:58:39pm

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They’re shocked? No church leader can be trusted with children. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.—Ian Flemming

Hyperbole much? The best data I could find are several years out of date, but at that time there were about 300,000 clergy in the US.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 15, 2021 • 11:59:24pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2021 • 12:05:41am

Interesting…… Rich and seems to have Ill at heart.

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John Hughes  Jul 16, 2021 • 12:11:58am

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

In the blue ridge mountains of Scotland… And Norway, and Finland…

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 12:12:52am

re: #112 William Lewis

Oh yeah. This weekend is the Pow-Wow at the rez. Booked solid all week. Phone ringing off the hook with people, some crying, trying to find a room that they were to foolish to not secure earlier. I have little sympathy for people like the four motorcycle bikers yesterday who were looking for a room when they got tired of riding.

Someone’s in a car? It’s summer. It’s temperate around here. Sleep in the car, I’ve done it more than once.

Nah, it’s the ones already in-house that drive me batty, mostly because they think that already having a room means we’re under some obligation to keep them in that room.

It’s always the same conversation:

G: “Hi, my family would like to extend our reservation for the expensive room that we’ve crammed like a clown car for another day.”

M: “Alright, let me check our availability for tomorrow. *checks screen* Unfortunately it looks like I would not be able to extend that reservation as we don’t have availability for that room type.”

G: “Even though we’re already in the room? The lady I talked to earlier said she’d try to extend that room for me.”

M: “I’m sorry, but all the rooms of that type have already been rented for tomorrow.”

G: “Well, my family needs somewhere to stay. Is there any chance that there might be availability in the morning?”

M: “Probably not, we generally don’t get cancellations until the afternoon or early evening.”

G: “When’s the earliest that room would be available again?”

M: *checks screen* “Not until next Monday.”

G: “Are there any other room types available for tomorrow?”

M: “I have our basic room available at (insert summer weekend rate).”

G: “But I saw that room online for (ridiculously low third party rate).”

M: “Yeah, I can’t book it at that rate, you’ll have to book it online.”

G: “Alright, well book the room at the rate you quoted, I’ll be back in the morning to badger the staff on-duty then into giving me either an extension on my current room or a huge discount on the smaller room.”

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jul 16, 2021 • 12:14:49am

re: #116 Dave In Austin

Driftglass raves about how great it is to have a Democrat governor that gives a shit and has “Fuck You” money.

The dirtbag left hating him is completely unsurprising.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 12:46:15am

New York Police currently lying about an incident they caused (eight tweet thread, video sixty seconds)

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 12:47:51am

re: #116 Dave In Austin

Interesting…… Rich and seems to have Ill at heart.

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Which means he’ll likely lose the support of the police unions at reelection time (assuming they don’t just automatically oppose him on political grounds) while the dirtbag left argue that he failed to do “enough” and so some progressive candidate that has no real chance of winning should be the party nominee.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 12:56:14am

re: #118 Targetpractice

I’ve rarely come in late for a hotel asking for a room. I can probably count that on three fingers.

In the very rare times I have, the only question I’ve had if I’m turned away for no vacancy is if the clerk can direct me to other hotels in the area.

All my long trips planned in advance I’ve also planned the hotels in advance and reserved a room. The only recent case where there was a screw up was in Alberta, where we arrived very late at a cabin, and the cabin owner had left a voice message for us to tell us where she’d put the key. (Unfortunately, that voice message was on our answering machine in Nebraska, because the only number she had for us was our home telephone.)

We wound up staying at a different place that night. The next morning we went to the cabin office simply to explain what happened to us, why we didn’t show up, and why we didn’t get her message. She insisted on refunding our money.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:02:09am

One Million Moms trying to get the AMC television show “Kevin Can Go Fuck Himself” cancelled, because Monica Cole (the mom of One Million Moms) doesn’t like the name.

The show is rated TV-MA, so it’s not for children, but Christian busybodies know what’s right for everyone, not just themselves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:04:00am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:13:35am

The New Yorker now negotiating how many dead children (and the dead adults they expose) are “acceptable losses.”

The kids are safe. They always have been.

It may sound strange, given a year of panic over school closures and reopenings, a year of masking toddlers and closing playgrounds and huddling in pandemic pods, that, according to the CDC, among children the mortality risk from COVID-19 is actually lower than from the flu. The risk of severe disease or hospitalization is about the same.

This is true for the much-worried-over Delta variant. It is also true for all the other variants, and for the original strain. Most remarkably, it has been known to be true since the very earliest days of the pandemic — indeed it was among the very first things we did know about the disease. The preliminary mortality data from China was very clear: To children, COVID-19 represented only a vanishingly tiny threat of death, hospitalization, or severe disease.

(more)

Even if no child at all was at risk of death (never mind the other syndromes clearly shown in children who come down with the disease), there isn’t a mention anywhere in the article about how children can spread the disease.

They also drag Dr. Peter Hotez (first by failing to use his proper title “Doctor” when speaking about his professional capacity), arguing he is an alarmist.

The Kids Are Alright Why now is the time to rethink COVID safety protocols for children — and everyone else. (by David Wallace-Wells, July 12, 2021)

Amongst other things, Wallace-Wells is the deputy editor of The New Yorker. He writes on climate change as “an optimistic future.” You would be unsurprised to learn he is a regular guest on “The Joe Rogan Experience.”

His articles in The New Yorker and his one book on climate change have been panned by actual climate scientists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:20:31am

re: #4 Rightwingconspirator

That just be my new favorite from James M.

I used to hang out with James M in my graduate days at University of Arizona in Tucson, we used to jam a bit in my living Room and even onstage at the Mt Lemmon Lodge. I played in a bluegrass band with his GF.

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:21:53am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’ve rarely come in late for a hotel asking for a room. I can probably count that on three fingers.

In the very rare times I have, the only question I’ve had if I’m turned away for no vacancy is if the clerk can direct me to other hotels in the area.

All my long trips planned in advance I’ve also planned the hotels in advance and reserved a room. The only recent case where there was a screw up was in Alberta, where we arrived very late at a cabin, and the cabin owner had left a voice message for us to tell us where she’d put the key. (Unfortunately, that voice message was on our answering machine in Nebraska, because the only number she had for us was our home telephone.)

We wound up staying at a different place that night. The next morning we went to the cabin office simply to explain what happened to us, why we didn’t show up, and why we didn’t get her message. She insisted on refunding our money.

I can certainly direct people to other hotels, the problem is that they usually ask the question in some variation of “Do you know any hotels that have vacancies at this hour,” to which the only response I can honestly give is “I’m afraid I don’t.” There’s a hotel next door and another two just down the road, but we’re not affiliated with them so the most I can do is just give people directions to them.

Apparently in the 21st century, the fact that so many hotels are online gives people looking for rooms the false impression that all hotels of the same brand/company are networked together and can access info on sister hotels. I’ve never worked at a hotel where this was true, the best I could do would be to call one of those hotels and ask about their availability. But I can’t see their inventory, I can’t book rooms in their hotels, and I definitely cannot transfer reservations from our system to theirs, despite so many irate demands that I do so when a room is deemed by some uptight guest as not meeting their exacting standards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:23:37am

re: #127 Targetpractice

I wouldn’t ask a clerk if they know if other hotels have any vacancies; how would their staff know that? Only the other hotel can answer that question.

I guess I’m just odd or something.

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:25:11am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Over 60 years later, they still keep hoping for Bay of Pigs Part II: Electric Boogaloo to kick off. Apparently two major quagmires in the space of a decade didn’t clue them in that bombing the locals doesn’t tend to win them to you side.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:27:40am
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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:27:41am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The New Yorker now negotiating how many dead children (and the dead adults they expose) are “acceptable losses.”

(more)

Even if no child at all was at risk of death (never mind the other syndromes clearly shown in children who come down with the disease), there isn’t a mention anywhere in the article about how children can spread the disease.

They also drag Dr. Peter Hotez (first by failing to use his proper title “Doctor” when speaking about his professional capacity), arguing he is an alarmist.

The Kids Are Alright Why now is the time to rethink COVID safety protocols for children — and everyone else. (by David Wallace-Wells, July 12, 2021)

Amongst other things, Wallace-Wells is the deputy editor of The New Yorker. He writes on climate change as “an optimistic future.” You would be unsurprised to learn he is a regular guest on “The Joe Rogan Experience.”

His articles in The New Yorker and his one book on climate change have been panned by actual climate scientists.

The point of all this shit is purely economic, namely getting kids back into government-funded daycare centers masquerading as schools in order to tick off that box on the list of reasons people are refusing to rush back into the low-wage workforce.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:29:38am

re: #129 Targetpractice

Over 60 years later, they still keep hoping for Bay of Pigs Part II: Electric Boogaloo to kick off. Apparently two major quagmires in the space of a decade didn’t clue them in that bombing the locals doesn’t tend to win them to you side.

I guess this dingbat on FOX News wants to bomb the protestors or something.

Plus it would be Iraq all over again: A country which has done us no harm, let’s bomb them into submission.

I don’t know the percentage of the Cuban population that happens to like the United States, but I guarantee that would plummet if we start bombing their country.

Conservatives don’t seem to be able to think in terms of soft power, like diplomacy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:31:11am

re: #131 Targetpractice

The point of all this shit is purely economic, namely getting kids back into government-funded daycare centers masquerading as schools in order to tick off that box on the list of reasons people are refusing to rush back into the low-wage workforce.

The New Yorker is not normally known (at least by me) for stanning for “Big Capitalism.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:31:24am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I wouldn’t ask a clerk if they know if other hotels have any vacancies; how would their staff know that? Only the other hotel can answer that question.

I guess I’m just odd or something.

Usually they ask that question because they’re operating on the vain hope that the night staff have been keeping track of such info and will shorten their search by just directing them to the one hotel in the area with rooms.

Problem is that by the time you call, odds are that info is old enough that the hotel they directed to you is now sold out and you’re back at square one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:31:59am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

People should realize that if things had broken a slightly different way for Trump, if there were people in powerful positions who were on-board with the coup he was proposing, we might be living in a very different country today.

Let us not forget that he received more votes in 2020 than in 2016. All that stopped him was a massive Democratic voter turnout and a handful of GOP state election officials who still had some integrity and decency.

The latter have all been purged.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:33:46am

With all the Christian summer camps having outbreaks of Covid-19 and refusing to work with contact tracers, citing “religious liberty,” I suggest we name the next variant of the virus after a Christian denomination which has promoted spreading disease.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:35:05am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re starting to see that in the UK. I reckon it won’t be much longer before we see that in a good many part of Europe and in the US as well.

Hell, I’ve heard it from a couple of my students: ~5% of the overall population of 10.65 million inhabitants is what they’d consider “acceptable losses”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:36:56am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

We’re starting to see that in the UK. I reckon it won’t be much longer before we see that in a good many part of Europe and in the US as well.

Hell, I’ve heard it from a couple of my students: ~5% of the overall population of 10.65 million inhabitants is what they’d consider “acceptable losses”.

Ask them if they want to draw a slip from a bag of twenty, and if they draw the one that says “you die” if they’d be accepting of that fate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:37:05am

re: #27 jaunte

Carlson’s answer to
CharlotteAlter
appears to be yes, he is vaccinated, but wants to take fake offense rather than saying it:

asking someone if they are vaccinated is not an intimate or invasive question, it is highly relevant in determining if this person is safe to interact with in closed spaces without a mask and less than 6 feet away…

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:37:15am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The New Yorker is not normally known (at least by me) for stanning for “Big Capitalism.”

There’s this growing push for a variety of reasons towards arguing that CV is another “seasonal virus.” Hence the continued abuse of statistics to argue that it’s “no worse than the flu.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:38:43am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ask them if they want to draw a slip from a bag of twenty, and if they draw the one that says “you die” if they’d be accepting of that fate.

I have asked them - their answer was, “Then so be it.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:42:35am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I guess this dingbat on FOX News wants to bomb the protestors or something.

Plus it would be Iraq all over again: A country which has done us no harm, let’s bomb them into submission.

I don’t know the percentage of the Cuban population that happens to like the United States, but I guarantee that would plummet if we start bombing their country.

Conservatives don’t seem to be able to think in terms of soft power, like diplomacy.

It’s the usual BS: “They want us to help them! It’ll be just like those past successful military interventions into the affairs of a foreign nation! We’ll be greeted as liberators! If we don’t do it then we’re supporting the communists/terrorists!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:43:45am

The idea of the Christian legislative idea “Project Blitz” is to push as many Christian bills through state legislatures as possible, with the hope a few will get through.

When their playbook was exposed, they took it underground. It has been exposed again, with new legislative ideas such as undermining public libraries.

In the Fall of 2019, the secretive Christian Right state legislative campaign, Project Blitz, became even more of a secret. When RD first reported on Project Blitz in April 2018 the website featured their annual state legislative playbook of model bills and talking points. They also named the members of the State Legislative Prayer Caucuses that drew on the model bills for their own legislation. But in the face of public scrutiny, RD’s revelation of a second playbook and the unwanted media attention that followed our reports (from The New York Times, Salon, The Guardian, Religion News Service, USA Today, Church & State magazine and many more) the sponsoring Congressional Prayer Caucus Foundation (CPCF) scrubbed everything under the rubric of Project Blitz from their site. One Ohio state senator went so far as to lie to a reporter about even knowing about Project Blitz—despite being the state’s co-chair.

The Project Blitz playbooks for the state legislative sessions of 2019-2020 (PDF) and 2020-21 (PDF) remained hidden—until now. They’ve added some new bills—including a dramatic attack on the integrity of public libraries—but the Dominionism-driven Christian nationalist agenda remains the same. The playbooks advise legislators to cloak their religious mission in the guise of more secular intentions and they’ve renamed several bills to make them sound more appealing.

But the newly-surfaced playbooks also tell a story of the resilience of democratic institutions and leaders in the face of movements seeking to undermine or end them.

(more)

Exclusive: Christian Right Bill Mill, Project Blitz, Hasn’t Gone Away, It’s Just Gotten More Secretive (Religion Dispatches)

Texas-based religion scholar David R. Brockman originally described the purpose of the secretive project as “a covert campaign for conservative Christian dominion over law and public policy,” which remains true today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:45:53am

re: #141 Dr Lizardo

I have asked them - their answer was, “Then so be it.”

You’re a teacher so you probably can’t do it, but that’s the sort of person I stay far away from. If they don’t give a crap about themselves, they certainly don’t give a crap about anyone else.

I try not to hang out with people who spout sociopathic ideas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:48:42am

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

Speaking of cults, I like Yuengling Lager just fine, but some folks on my FB are recently posting about it like it’s the Second Coming. It reminds me of Coors back in the 1970s when getting a rogue trailer full of Coors across the Mississippi river was the plot point in a semi-major summer movie. I’ve lived in Yuengling-land in VA and found the local craft scene far superior, even in the similar lager category.

Again, it’s perfectly fine; a better choice than Bud. But I don’t get the worship.

It is a family brewery, and one of the younger scions opened a brew pub that featured his special laurel oil-flavored beer. But there was an annoying side effect. The bay leaves in the beer had a numbing effect on the tongue and made it hard for people to communicate.

So they took to hiring acrobats and jugglers from a local circus that was wintering nearby to keep the people entertained if they could not talk.

And they called it:

(wait for it)

Yuengling Brothers Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:52:17am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Based,” Rogers tweeted, after Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) pledged to oppose any immigration reform bill. “You are not ‘based,’” she tweeted in June, “if you support candidates who are not ‘based.’” When the city of Charlottesville, finally removed a statue of Robert E. Lee, she warned that anyone who did not back the defeated Confederate general was not — you guessed it — “based.”

I assume this is the RW counterpart to “woke”

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:53:14am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

(insert Cary Grant “Get out” gif)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:53:22am

re: #84 retired cynic

Have we heard from Wendell today?

sorry, guys, had a late start today, I am usually on at least two hours earlier than this…

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:53:31am

Remember how we were all told about how desperately necessary it was for military intervention in Iran during the Obama years? About how a few thousand protestors in the streets was actually the start of a massively popular movement to remove the old regime and install a Western-style democracy? That the only option was to immediately order the invasion and occupation of the nation, because anything less was going to the slaughter of millions and all that blood would be on our hands?

Yeah, that’s what’s happening with Cuba. And it’s every bit as ridiculous as it was with Iran.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:55:09am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You’re a teacher so you probably can’t do it, but that’s the sort of person I stay far away from. If they don’t give a crap about themselves, they certainly don’t give a crap about anyone else.

I try not to hang out with people who spout sociopathic ideas.

Having lived here for twenty years, I wasn’t surprised in the slightest, to be honest. Eugenicist notions are quite widespread, lurking just under the surface. After a few beers, or a few glasses of wine, or a couple of shots, what Czechs really think is quite dark indeed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:57:46am

re: #147 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

(insert Cary Grant “Get out” gif)

I was up half the night working on that pun…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:57:56am

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The worst part of the new project is the attempt to criminalise librarians.

The plan is to set up “citizen oversight boards” (that could overrule a library board or librarian), then if the librarian or board violated whatever the citizen board claimed was anti-Christian, the library board members or librarian could be jailed and fined.

This was first attempted in Missouri, and the American Library Association came out swinging against the Nazis Republicans Christians in the state legislature who proposed this. (Most were Republicans, but a fair number of Democrats also promoted the bill.)

The bill went down in defeat from endless calls, letters, testimony, &c from citizens who do not want Christians taking over their libraries to advance their religion.

The bill has been repeated since then in Colorado and Maine with the same result. Expect it to come to a legislature near you.

Project Blitz only has to get the bill passed in one state, with the idea of taking it to the courts if challenged, whilst simultaneously playing on the endless victimhood of Republicans and certain Christians (think of the children!).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 1:59:35am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Having lived here for twenty years, I wasn’t surprised in the slightest, to be honest. Eugenicist notions are quite widespread, lurking just under the surface. After a few beers, or a few glasses of wine, or a couple of shots, what Czechs really think is quite dark indeed.

I guess I won’t be visiting Czechia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 2:08:41am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I guess I won’t be visiting Czechia.

Pretty much none of it comes from religion - indeed, Czechia has a very high percentage of atheists/agnostics. Churches here a little more than museums.

I’ve always figured it comes from a very deep and very broad cultural inferiority complex, which is rampant here. They always feel the need to be victims, yet they wish to be seen as strong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 2:15:19am

Other cultures have black humor, the Czechs has blackness without the humor.

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2021 • 2:19:47am

“It’s horrible how the Cuban people have no food or medical care due to communism!”

“And what of the millions here in the US without food or medical care?”

“THEY NEED TO GET OFF THEIR ASSES AND GET JOBS! NO WELFARE! NO FREE HANDOUTS!!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 2:22:18am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Other cultures have black humor, the Czechs has blackness without the humor.

More like their humor is so pitch black, it’s hard to see it.

Someone noted upthread that there’s a new Coke Zero coming to the US; interestingly, this has been on sale for over a month now here (and in the parts of the EU as well).

I almost never drink the stuff (maybe once a year I’ll drink a Coke, or a Pepsi, or an RC Cola, but certainly not diet) so I can’t say what the “new and improved” tastes like.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2021 • 2:29:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:06:59am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

Someone noted upthread that there’s a new Coke Zero coming to the US; interestingly, this has been on sale for over a month now here (and in the parts of the EU as well).

I almost never drink the stuff (maybe once a year I’ll drink a Coke, or a Pepsi, or an RC Cola, but certainly not diet) so I can’t say what the “new and improved” tastes like.

I have long since stopped looking on Coke or Pepsi as a beverage, they are a drug, a means of keeping myself awake when I have already had enough coffee…

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:11:17am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have long since stopped looking on Coke or Pepsi as a beverage, they are a drug, a means of keeping myself awake when I have already had enough coffee…

I’ve tried to stop drinking any soda - I don’t need the sugar and hate the taste of fake sugars. Just a nice hot cuppa tea thank you. English & black preferred.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:11:40am

Yikes, there was a major landslide in Blessem, which isn’t too far away from Köln:

dailymail.co.uk

Oof, that’s bad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:13:21am

re: #160 William Lewis

I’ve tried to stop drinking any soda - I don’t need the sugar and hate the taste of fake sugars. Just a nice hot cuppa tea thank you. English & black preferred.

Sugary fizzy drinks are something I drink only on occasion, my go-to is iced fruit tea with a spash of syrup.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:13:33am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have long since stopped looking on Coke or Pepsi as a beverage, they are a drug, a means of keeping myself awake when I have already had enough coffee…

There was a description of Coke (or Pepsi) decades ago in Bloom County….”malted battery acid”. That little joke stuck with me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:22:46am

Even holding a bigotted view (such as LGBT+ people are inherently sinful), even if you don’t express them and keep them entirely to yourself, can be terribly damaging to others.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:23:21am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

JFC…

Precipitation was most intense in the North Rhine-Westphalia and Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany where accumulations averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in), equivalent to more than a month’s-worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24-hours. According to the German weather service, some of the affected regions have not seen rainfall of this magnitude in over 100 years.

Those Wikipedia people are fast - I got that from the article: en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:23:29am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have long since stopped looking on Coke or Pepsi as a beverage, they are a drug, a means of keeping myself awake when I have already had enough coffee…

There is no such thing as “enough coffee.” /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:27:10am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There is no such thing as “enough coffee.” /s

maybe there isn’t but sometimes my stomach tells me so

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:32:39am

Are you having trouble making decisions like which credit card you should pay off first, is non-fat milk good for you, or which politician should you vote for? Perhaps fascism is for you!

(1:40, Laughing in Disbelief at YouTube)

An Ad For The Future Of The United States

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:33:45am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

maybe there isn’t but sometimes my stomach tells me so

Your stomach is obviously against you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:40:02am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Your stomach is obviously against you.

Elitist libtard internal organs!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2021 • 3:41:57am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 16, 2021 • 4:12:27am

I was reading this guy’s last tweet thread on Wednesday

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2021 • 4:24:28am

re: #18 darthstar

[Embedded content]

“Me haz dat meat, tanks!”

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 16, 2021 • 4:57:09am

It looks like L. Lin Wood, Jr., Esq., is in what my parents would call “heap big-um trouble”…

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:02:12am

the onion but not the actual Onion

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:05:49am

“I’ll be there with you”

I still recall him uttering those words live.

I rarely tuned into Presidential speeches, but I did that time and recall those words and how that was a clear prompt to the people.

I fail to accept the argument that he was somehow “unaware” that he would “prevented by his security detail” from the masses up the Capitol steps: he was being a sick, manipulative traitorous fascist.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:28:13am

how August 13 became not really August 13
from todays electoral-vote.com in total

Undoubtedly, you had August 13—the day Donald Trump was to be restored to the presidency—circled on your calendar. Perhaps you planned to stage a parade, or maybe to host a barbecue, or maybe to commit hara-kiri. Whatever the case may be, you are going to have to stand down on those plans, because the revolution has been temporarily postponed.

Yesterday, MyPillow guy Mike Lindell, the noted political sage, appeared on the Steve Bannon radio program, putting to the test whether a dedicated 38-Gbps OC-768 fiber optic line is capable of handling that much lunacy. And during his appearance, Lindell explained that when he said that Donald Trump would be reinstalled on August 13, he didn’t mean that Donald Trump would actually be reinstalled on August 13. Here are his exact words:

“Here’s what I said about a week ago. I said, everyone, you know, we’re gonna live stream this to the world on the 10th, 11th, and 12th of August. What I said was, when you all see what I’ve seen and what I have, you’re…the morning of the thirteenth you’re going to wake up and go, wow, now what are we gonna do? Everyone’s gonna know it and that’s when we’re going to bring it to the Supreme Court. I didn’t say that everything’s gonna change the morning of the thirteenth.”

Don’t you feel foolish for having misunderstood him, when he was so very clear?

Since there is a zero percent chance of Trump being reinstated on August 13, or any other day prior to January 20, 2025 (when the odds jump to maybe 10%), of course Lindell was going to revise his prediction. The only question was when he would do so. Heck, you could have run a pretty good betting pool based on it (“If you had July 15 at 11:00 ET, you’re a winner!”). We shall see now if the whole fantasy fades away or if, like the doomsday preacher who identifies the date and time when armageddon will begin, Lindell will keep insisting that the blessed day is just around the corner, he’s absolutely sure of it this time. (Z)

but keep your eyes on August 32nd.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:31:30am

re: #177 Dangerman

It is just the same as all those End of the World predictions…

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:36:59am

cnn

“And with Republicans counting on Trump to be a crucial pillar of their efforts to reclaim the House majority next year, both in terms of fundraising and turnout, they are eager to stay in his good graces and reluctant to damage or provoke the mercurial ex-President over the next 16 months — especially as the January 6 probe heats up, which Trump will undoubtedly be keeping a close eye on.”

- a functioning party, with a plausible, reasonably popular agenda, being led by functioning, respectable adults wouldnt need to risk it all on a defeated fascist.

- so “needing” Trump as their main vote driver is kind of pathetic

- and incredibly irresponsible because putting all the chips on godhead worship and no agenda, they have no idea what Trump will be (or where) in fall 2022.

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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:47:58am

re: #177 Dangerman

how August 13 became not really August 13
from todays electoral-vote.com in total

but keep your eyes on August 32nd.

Dang, another change the date fee for my clubhouse celebration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:48:29am

re: #179 Dangerman

They know that that 30% will come out in solid numbers to support their Hair Führer.

Without his presence, they will fall flat just as they did with Romney in 2012.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:51:00am

re: #179 Dangerman

cnn

- a functioning party, with a plausible, reasonably popular agenda, being led by functioning, respectable adults wouldnt need to risk it all on a defeated fascist.

- so “needing” Trump as their main vote driver is kind of pathetic

- and incredibly irresponsible because putting all the chips on godhead worship and no agenda, they have no idea what Trump will be (or where) in fall 2022.

Throughout the world, there are successful political parties led by fascists. Trump’s hate-filled racist agenda appeals to tens of millions of Americans. They are quite willing to support anyone who follows his party-line. He is their leader — and he almost succeeded in re-election. He only needed 45,000 additional votes in the right states. We delude ourselves if we think that Trump or his disciples cannot easily take over this nation, courtesy of the EC and the SCOTUS support of voter suppression.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 5:53:06am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know that that 30% will come out in solid numbers to support their Hair Führer.

Without his presence, they will fall flat just as they did with Romney in 2012.

yup
Trumpism without Trump himself on the ballot is a proven loser.

ther wont be some organic groundswell opposition to Biden. He is likeable. The economy is on fire. He is doing popular things. and mostly, hes not an insane raging asshole lunatic

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:00:17am

re: #183 Dangerman

yup
Trumpism without Trump himself on the ballot is a proven loser.

ther wont be some organic groundswell opposition to Biden. He is likeable. The economy is on fire. He is doing popular things. and mostly, hes not an insane raging asshole lunatic

The Republican base and the legislators alike favor exactly that type of candidate. Arizona? Texas? Florida? Wisconsin? Pennsylvania? They are all onboard with promoting his lies. To quote a braindead member of the cult: “Would someone please list the accomplishments of this administration that actually benefit Americans?” They do not see Biden promoting policies that they care about.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:00:59am

re: #183 Dangerman

yup
Trumpism without Trump himself on the ballot is a proven loser.

ther wont be some organic groundswell opposition to Biden. He is likeable. The economy is on fire. He is doing popular things. and mostly, hes not an insane raging asshole lunatic

he is white and male which still counts as a plus in American electoral politics, at least that he does not provoke the base rabid instincts.

If they run Kamala, their reaction will be (Obama + Hillary)² : racism, misogyny, xenophobia, bigotry all spiking.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:02:45am

re: #183 Dangerman

yup
Trumpism without Trump himself on the ballot is a proven loser.

ther wont be some organic groundswell opposition to Biden. He is likeable. The economy is on fire. He is doing popular things. and mostly, hes not an insane raging asshole lunatic

Most white men and about 40-50% of white women are perfectly fine with an insane raging asshole for President as long as he advances and promotes the entitlement of white supremacism. And that is a big problem- one that means a very different country if another Republican wins the White House.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:12:49am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:17:12am

re: #185 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he is white and male which still counts as a plus in American electoral politics, at least that he does not provoke the base rabid instincts.

If they run Kamala, their reaction will be (Obama + Hillary)² : racism, misogyny, xenophobia, bigotry all spiking.

2024 yeah
I’m still in 2022

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:18:18am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have long since stopped looking on Coke or Pepsi as a beverage, they are a drug, a means of keeping myself awake when I have already had enough coffee…

As long as you also view coffee as a drug.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:19:45am

re: #189 Belafon

As long as you also view coffee as a drug.

Only when i take it iv

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:20:52am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I’ll be there with you”

I still recall him uttering those words live.

I rarely tuned into Presidential speeches, but I did that time and recall those words and how that was a clear prompt to the people.

I fail to accept the argument that he was somehow “unaware” that he would “prevented by his security detail” from the masses up the Capitol steps: he was being a sick, manipulative traitorous fascist.

That speech was a master class in getting close enough to outright inciting violence that your primed listeners don’t know that you’re not going to join them but they shoukd go ahead.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:21:40am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know that that 30% will come out in solid numbers to support their Hair Führer.

Without his presence, they will fall flat just as they did with Romney in 2012.

He wasn’t directly on the ballot in 2018 and it hurt them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:23:02am

re: #189 Belafon

As long as you also view coffee as a drug.

Coffee is a Gift from the Gods

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:25:05am

re: #114 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Hyperbole much? The best data I could find are several years out of date, but at that time there were about 300,000 clergy in the US.

Depends on how you define hyperbole.

I know for sure that 600,000 dead from covid is only a tiny fraction of the American population, but I know for damn sure I am not going to hang around conservatives who deny the seriousness of the problem.

To some extent, clerical sexual abuse exists in every religious group, experts say. But quantifying the problem is almost impossible.

A handful of studies compiled by the Center for the Prevention of Sexual and Domestic Violence, some more than a decade old, suggest that up to 15 percent of clergy members in all religious groups have engaged in some inappropriate conduct [my emphasis], whether a stolen kiss or full-fledged sexual abuse. But few authoritative statistics are available on the number and type of complaints, and what information churches collect is usually kept secret.

(more)

Abuse by Clergy Is Not Just a Catholic Problem (more, New York Times, April 13, 2002)

And that “hard to come by” statistic from then is by design of churches. The numbers aren’t better today on the extent because they want it that way.

15% is a hell of a big number of clergy who have engaged in “inappropriate behaviour.”

So the number is roughly one-in-seven. That’s a hell of a lot better odds than dying of covid to date.

In my mind, no, that is not hyperbole.

Moreover, churches themselves are never held responsible for the people who commit the crimes.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:29:03am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Coffee is a Gift from the Gods

So is marijuana.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:29:12am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:30:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:31:01am
Joyce Seelen, the lawyer who represented the woman, estimated that she has handled 50 cases of clerical abuse in 20 years, covering Methodists, Episcopalians, the Church of Christ and the fundamentalist Church of the Nazarene.

”In my practice, I have not seen institutions taking steps to correct the problem,” Ms. Seelen said. ”Every one of the churches that we’ve been successful against walked into court and said, ‘We didn’t know, and if we had known, we would have done something.’ Over and over and over, what we saw was they didn’t know because they didn’t want to know.”

That case in 1992 was the first time church leaders were held responsible for what one of their employees did. It was a Colorado case against an Episcopalian priest.

So I’m going to go with “not hyperbole.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:33:06am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #195 Belafon

I thought beer (and other alcoholic beverages) was proof that G-d loves us. At least that is what Ben Franklin said.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:33:07am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:33:52am

re: #199 PhillyPretzel

I thought beer (and other alcoholic beverages) was proof that G-d loves us. At least that is what Ben Franklin said.

That still holds true, though it’s obvious She doesn’t love me since I cannot drink the stuff.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:35:33am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:35:34am

re: #192 Belafon

He wasn’t directly on the ballot in 2018 and it hurt them.

In 2018, there were people who voted for the Democrats to express their opposition to Trump, because that was the only way their objection could be heard. But in 2020, they could directly vote against him and then vote for the other Republicans on the ticket.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:37:29am

re: #200 Belafon

What tires me is claiming people are “acting against their own interest.”

President Johnson called it in the day about emptying their wallets for you. Truman called it in his day when he said “everything Republicans don’t like is socialism.”

What if racism and misogyny is their self-interest?

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:39:54am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Moreover, churches themselves are never held responsible for the people who commit the crimes.

Religions, but churches mostly are given license to cover up actual crimes that (most of) the rest of us are arrested tried and jailed for

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:40:47am

re: #203 Hecuba’s daughter

In 2018, there were people who voted for the Democrats to express their opposition to Trump, because that was the only way their objection could be heard. But in 2020, they could directly vote against him and then vote for the other Republicans on the ticket.

Yet more people voted for him in 2020 than 2016.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:41:45am

re: #206 Belafon

Yet more people voted for him in 2020 than 2016.

The population also grew.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:42:18am

re: #196 Belafon

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Biden gives kisses to little kids without their consent. The horror! //

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:43:17am

I hadn’t filed an income tax form since 1997. I filed one last year to get the emergency Covid relief.

It turns out tax forms are really simple to file when every number you enter is a zero.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:43:19am
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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:44:03am

re: #206 Belafon

Yet more people voted for him in 2020 than 2016.

No they didn’t, that vote was rigged.

He lost bigly. Even more biglier than the 1st time!

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:45:31am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:47:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:48:04am

re: #202 Belafon

“There’s a place for welfare in this country…”

…and it is with corporations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:48:46am

re: #208 Dangerman

Biden gives kisses to little kids without their consent. The horror! //

Biden bribes future voters with Free Government Stuff

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:50:13am

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What tires me is claiming people are “acting against their own interest.”

President Johnson called it in the day about emptying their wallets for you. Truman called it in his day when he said “everything Republicans don’t like is socialism.”

What if racism and misogyny is their self-interest?

Killing yourself or your kids to own the libs is quite the display of loyalty

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:51:13am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hershey’s is owned by the gov’t? I thought it was a public company.
en.wikipedia.org

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:51:27am

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What tires me is claiming people are “acting against their own interest.”

President Johnson called it in the day about emptying their wallets for you. Truman called it in his day when he said “everything Republicans don’t like is socialism.”

What if racism and misogyny is their self-interest?

It is. More accurately, whether they consciously realise it or not, they understand that a society where they benefit from being part of an upper caste is better for them than an egalitarian society, even if they might be healthier and financially better off. It’s better for them to be part of the privileged in-group and to get to hate the out-group than it is to have more money, better education, or health care.

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:51:59am

Good morning!

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:52:07am

Quality Memes! Get them Fresh!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:54:15am

re: #213 Belafon

Several people in that thread are asking if “shit-ton” is a technical term in medicine. /s

One asked if it was SI or Imperial.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:54:54am

re: #217 PhillyPretzel

Hershey’s is owned by the gov’t? I thought it was a public company.
en.wikipedia.org

Corporate cronyism!! Corruption!!!

(only half ///)

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 6:58:38am

re: #217 PhillyPretzel

Hershey’s is owned by the gov’t? I thought it was a public company.
en.wikipedia.org

Its stored in the warehouses next to the government cheese.
Its near where they keep the mule

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:02:13am

re: #223 Dangerman

lol

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:04:30am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Coffee is a Gift from the Gods

I went for my wife’s blog post about decaffeinated coffee trees actually being the dominant gene over caffeine, and her end-of-the-world prediction that the world will simply fall asleep as caffeine-bearing coffee trees are wiped out.

Something went wrong with her post though, and it led me to the Cynics for a Better Tomorrow 404 page.

That 404 page by the way is very funny. If you like reading funny 404 pages, hers is pretty good.

Cynics for a Better Tomorrow 404 Page (caution for bright colours, she uses high contrast in her Websites to create Websites which are more easily read by people with low vision problems)

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:06:05am

The Vaccine-Hesitant Coach Who Died as DeSantis Hawked ‘Keep Florida Free’ Merch

thedailybeast.com

Coach Guy Thomas should have had a leader assuring him that the vaccine is not only safe but necessary—not profiting off anti-Fauci gear as cases surged again and he lay dying.

“He was hesitant and he was always so busy working with kids,” Burnside told The Daily Beast.

But a day or two before he was to have gotten his first shot, Thomas fell ill and tested positive for COVID-19. He was hospitalized in critical condition when DeSantis issued a June 3 reprieve for anyone who had been cited for ignoring COVID-19 restrictions before he nixed them all as “unscientific.”

DeSADIST is getting away with genocide.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:11:22am

re: #200 Belafon

Discouraging your supporters from taking a life saving vaccination doesn’t sound like a smart or winning political strategy to me but what do I know?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:12:53am

re: #226 JOE 🥓

The Vaccine-Hesitant Coach Who Died as DeSantis Hawked ‘Keep Florida Free’ Merch

thedailybeast.com

Coach Guy Thomas should have had a leader assuring him that the vaccine is not only safe but necessary—not profiting off anti-Fauci gear as cases surged again and he lay dying.

“He was hesitant and he was always so busy working with kids,” Burnside told The Daily Beast.

But a day or two before he was to have gotten his first shot, Thomas fell ill and tested positive for COVID-19. He was hospitalized in critical condition when DeSantis issued a June 3 reprieve for anyone who had been cited for ignoring COVID-19 restrictions before he nixed them all as “unscientific.”

DeSADIST is getting away with genocide.

The group being wiped out is Evangelical Christians. Why does he want the people who are stupid enough to vote for Republicans dead? Is it just the thrill of the kill?

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:14:50am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I went for my wife’s blog post about decaffeinated coffee trees actually being the dominant gene over caffeine, and her end-of-the-world prediction that the world will simply fall asleep as caffeine-bearing coffee trees are wiped out…

+1

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:17:00am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:19:49am

re: #227 Patricia Kayden

Discouraging your supporters from taking a life saving vaccination doesn’t sound like a smart or winning political strategy to me but what do I know?

As long as you can suppress more of the votes of the other team whilst your team is dying, that’s good enough to stay in power.

Or, just overthrow the government. That works too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:21:38am

re: #199 PhillyPretzel

I thought beer (and other alcoholic beverages) was proof that G-d loves us. At least that is what Ben Franklin said.

What did Ben Franklin know? He wasn’t born smart enough to have his portrait on a more circulated bill than the $100. /s

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darthstar  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:22:52am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:24:01am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As long as you can suppress more of the votes of the other team whilst your team is dying, that’s good enough to stay in power.

Or, just overthrow the government. That works too.

I expect that a lot of the people who tried on the 6th will be choking on their own fluids when Delta reaches them. You can’t have a fascist coup if the fascists are killing themselves due to their distrust of trustworthy people and trust of grifters and lunatics.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:25:39am

re: #234 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I expect that a lot of the people who tried on the 6th will be choking on their own fluids when Delta reaches them. You can’t have a fascist coup if the fascists are killing themselves due to their distrust of trustworthy people and trust of grifters and lunatics.

Oh, no. That’s awful.

So, what’s for lunch?

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:26:04am

re: #226 JOE 🥓

The Vaccine-Hesitant Coach Who Died as DeSantis Hawked ‘Keep Florida Free’ Merch

thedailybeast.com

Coach Guy Thomas should have had a leader assuring him that the vaccine is not only safe but necessary—not profiting off anti-Fauci gear as cases surged again and he lay dying.

“He was hesitant and he was always so busy working with kids,” Burnside told The Daily Beast.

But a day or two before he was to have gotten his first shot, Thomas fell ill and tested positive for COVID-19. He was hospitalized in critical condition when DeSantis issued a June 3 reprieve for anyone who had been cited for ignoring COVID-19 restrictions before he nixed them all as “unscientific.”

DeSADIST is getting away with genocide.

An awful lot of people are dying from just like the flu

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:27:00am

We are approaching the point when the Darwin Principle can kick in: nearly everyone who wants a vaccine shot has had one, the only ones left are the deniers, for whom I cannot feel sorry if they get infected.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:27:17am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

Ben and Irv have a good reuben. (There is a real Ben and Irv in Montgomery Co PA)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:32:07am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are approaching the point when the Darwin Principle can kick in: nearly everyone who wants a vaccine shot has had one, the only ones left are the deniers, for whom I cannot feel sorry if they get infected.

We’re still having distribution problems out here in the Old West (for example, you still can’t get it at pharmacies: CVS and Walgreens in Scottsbluff do not have it, and mostly our pharmacies are individually-owned, which the government did not engage with) plus other problems (like the refrigeration problem here which is still not solved).

On top of that, there’s the Internet portals to sign up for vaccines in an area where almost no one has Internet service.

That said, there are a bunch of people who won’t get it here even if they could.

I made two 260-mile round trips to get my vaccination at the VA Medical Center in Cheyenne (it turns out VA clinics cannot distribute it either). Most people in my town do not own cars.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:34:31am

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:35:04am

There is no end to the QAsshole shit.

QAnon cultists are trying to loop Britney Spears into their madness: ‘You will laugh when details are exposed’

Right-wing conspiracy theorists have been tying the pop singer’s legal battle to escape her father’s conservatorship to Qanon’s web of lies, after a recent documentary and new developments in the case have heightened public awareness of her situation, reported online researcher Jared Holt for the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab.

“Who exposed the pedo network in Hollywood?” claimed QAnon conspiracist Liz Crokin, who set up a Telegram channel devoted to Spears’ situation. “You will laugh when details are exposed. Paris? Britney? Miley? Kim? Never underestimate the genius of this [QAnon] operation.”

rawstory.com

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:35:11am

re: #238 PhillyPretzel

Ben and Irv have a good Ruben. (There is a real Ben and Irv in Montgomery Co PA)

Please it’s reuben

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:36:54am

re: #242 Dangerman

Thanks. Corrected.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:37:18am
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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:37:28am

re: #241 JOE 🥓

There is no end to the QAsshole shit.

QAnon cultists are trying to loop Britney Spears into their madness: ‘You will laugh when details are exposed’

Right-wing conspiracy theorists have been tying the pop singer’s legal battle to escape her father’s conservatorship to Qanon’s web of lies, after a recent documentary and new developments in the case have heightened public awareness of her situation, reported online researcher Jared Holt for the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab.

“Who exposed the pedo network in Hollywood?” claimed QAnon conspiracist Liz Crokin, who set up a Telegram channel devoted to Spears’ situation. “You will laugh when details are exposed. Paris? Britney? Miley? Kim? Never underestimate the genius of this [QAnon] operation.”

rawstory.com

August 32nd. Wait for it.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:38:23am

re: #245 Dangerman

August 32nd. Wait for it.

Oh no! Relatives are posting the new date, September 17th—Constitution Day!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:40:20am

re: #246 JOE 🥓

Oh no! Relatives are posting the new date, September 17th—Constitution Day!

Do they know about previous cults like the JWs that keep pushing dates back, and never deliver? Life’s been very easy for white people here, and it allowed a lot of morons to drift off into fantasy worlds.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:40:27am

Here’s the names of the 12 people who are spreading the most disinformation about Covid and vaccines:

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:41:44am

Man With Glock, Body Armor Wanted to ‘Wipe Out’ Jews: Cops

A man was arrested in Northern California after police found him with two assault rifles, body armor, and a manifesto “saying he wanted to wipe out the Black, Hispanic, and Jewish populations,” according to the Santa Clara County District Attorney’s Office. A local business owner called the cops just after midnight last Friday when he spotted Wesley Charles Martines “peering into cars at a dealer lot and looking inside a storage shed,” according to a press release from the district attorney’s office. Officers arrived believing the call concerned a robbery in process, but when they searched Martines’ white Ford F-250 truck, they found a Glock, a loaded handgun magazine, two assault rifles, meth, heroin, body armor, the materials for a pipe bomb, and the genocidal manifesto, the DA said. Martines also allegedly carried custom bullets engraved with the words “cop killer.”

eastbaytimes.com

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:42:25am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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But I thought we were not suppose to be police of the world?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:42:30am

re: #248 Belafon

Thanks. I saved it just in case someone tries something with me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:43:06am

re: #246 JOE 🥓

Oh no! Relatives are posting the new date, September 17th—Constitution Day!

Hey, at least your relatives talk to you, even if that talk is crazy. /s

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:43:48am
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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:47:44am

re: #252 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey, at least your relatives talk to you, even if that talk is crazy. /s

They aren’t talking to me. They’re posting this shit on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:47:55am

re: #250 Eventual Carrion

But I thought we were not suppose to be police of the world?

That’s more of a liberal and libertarian argument than a conservative one.

Of course conservatives only want to go in and fuque things up, then democracy will just grow naturally like a weed or something.

Suggest something like the Marshall Plan, then you get the arguments against foreign aid, everything I don’t like is socialism, and let them fend for themselves.

For example, there are no good answers to the situation in Afghanistan. I’m pretty sure the Taliban (my opinion) is eventually going to overwhelm government forces there and reimpose a theocracy.

The best solution I can see is a very liberal asylum programme for anyone who wants to get out (particularly women and people who worked with US or NATO forces). Conservatives simply won’t allow that if they can stop it. The cruelty is the point.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:49:23am

re: #253 Belafon

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And they will meticulously preserve every single incriminatIng document, yessir!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:49:32am

re: #245 Dangerman

August 32nd. Wait for it.

They got to keep coming up with new stuff to keep the grift going.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:50:01am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:51:46am

Toss up with Ken Ham.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:51:52am

re: #255 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Alexander couldn’t conquer Afghanistan.
The Mongols couldn’t conquer Afghanistan.
Persians couldn’t conquer Afghanistan.
Gladstone’s government fell over Afghanistan.
Soviets couldn’t conquer Afghanistan.
We should have only done one thing there—set up a Mission: Impossible team to kill Bin Laden.
Instead we ignored history and fell into the same trap as everyone else.
Now we have a moral obligation to get those who helped us out of there and to a safe place—First stop, Guam.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:52:38am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:56:38am

Everything Trump touches really dies over at FOX.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:57:03am

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:59:02am
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Jay C  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:59:09am

re: #256 Dangerman

And they will meticulously preserve every single incriminate document, yessir!

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Or announce an unfortunate oopsie! when they have to present the documentation: they’ll “admit” that a temp or intern “inadvertently” erased all their files (or replaced them with Furry pr0n, or something)…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 7:59:13am

re: #256 Dangerman

And they will meticulously preserve every single incriminate document, yessir!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:02:21am

re: #265 Jay C

Or announce an unfortunate oopsie! when they have to present the documentation: they’ll “admit” that a temp or intern “inadvertently” erased all their files (or replaced them with Furry pr0n, or something)…

Nixon’s blank tape would have been much more entertaining if it was filled with furry porn instead, just sayin’.

I don’t judge people’s kinks. If Nixon would have been into furry porn, that probably would have derailed the entire Watergate Investigation.

Plus that would have made for some interesting reading in the Congressional Record. Have furries ever been mentioned there, much less furry porn? I think the government is missing a big issue here.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:07:29am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Memories of Andy Kaufman’s early routine about the 17 minute gap in the Nixon tape. Andy said he got the stuff that was erased and turned on a tape of In A Gadda Da Vidda….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:08:06am

re: #233 darthstar

Writers trying to rehabilitate Nepotism Barbie’s image; nothing more than that.

If Ivanka Trump really wanted to stop the insurrection, she would have gone on television and radio at the time.

This is a PR campaign.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:10:42am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Of course the AZGOP is going to appeal: the whole basis of their fraudit scheme (official records/public access/rules-in-general notwithstanding) is that the entire thing is a private Republican Party affair, and nobody else’s business in the least. They have gone to great lengths to keep their funding sources, methods and documentation as much out of the public eye as possible: and I’m sure they have some Release-The-Calamari lawyers standing by to waste some court’s time by filing a (doubtlessly lame) appeal ASAP….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:11:41am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

At the time, Ivanka Trump called the insurrectionists “patriots.”

She was part of the crowd watching the insurrection on television. The crowd that Don Jr. (I forget if he’s Uday or Qusay) recorded laughing and cheering as the insurrection progressed.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:11:44am

re: #30 Dopamine Fish

When Bubonic Plague 2.0 comes to town, Republicans aren’t going to live long enough to make the same arguments that they did against COVID.

Guess we’re seeing how the right wing lunatics would respond to an actual zombie pandemic.

They’d ignore the problem. They’d say it’d go away after a few cases. They’d say it isn’t serious. They’d blame China (or North Korea or Iran or whatever new bogeyman they come up with).

They’d cling bitterly to their guns, as their ammo runs out, the economy collapses, and people who aren’t vaccinated succumb to the disease knowing that vaccinations save lives but guns wont. Then they’d claim success even as cases continue to simmer deep in to weather that should end the pandemic and blame Fauci because none of their criticism of the president is sticking.

That’s how desperate the GOP and right wing echo chamber is today.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:16:13am

re: #272 lawhawk

That’s the disinformation dozen document Psaki used to try and give the truth(s) about the vaccine some strength. It’s a real eye-popper.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:17:33am

re: #256 Dangerman

And they will meticulously preserve every single incriminatIng document, yessir!

[Embedded content]

those of you old enough to remember this goodie from watergate, courtesy NYT archives

Dean and an aide talked about “how some of these things could be potentially embarrassing.” Dean says he went to Ehrlichman, who told him to “shred the documents and ‘deep six’ the briefcase” (in which the most sensitive materials had been placed). Dean says he asked Ehrlichman what he meant by “deep six” and Ehrlichman said, “You drive across the river on your way home at night—don’t you? Well, when you cross over the bridge, just toss the briefcase in the river.” Dean says he told Ehrlichman that he would bring the materials to him, and he could take care of it because he crossed the river on his way home, too, but Ehrlichman said, “No thank you.”

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:19:08am

re: #265 Jay C

Or announce an unfortunate oopsie! when they have to present the documentation: they’ll “admit” that a temp or intern “inadvertently” erased all their files (or replaced them with Furry pr0n, or something)…

see re: #274 Dangerman

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:19:34am

re: #272 lawhawk

Guess we’re seeing how the right wing lunatics would respond to an actual zombie pandemic.

They’d ignore the problem. They’d say it’d go away after a few cases. They’d say it isn’t serious. They’d blame China (or North Korea or Iran or whatever new bogeyman they come up with).

They’d cling bitterly to their guns, as their ammo runs out, the economy collapses, and people who aren’t vaccinated succumb to the disease knowing that vaccinations save lives but guns wont. Then they’d claim success even as cases continue to simmer deep in to weather that should end the pandemic and blame Fauci because none of their criticism of the president is sticking.

That’s how desperate the GOP and right wing echo chamber is today.

They don’t even trust the CDC.

Zombie Preparedness (goes to the CDC, how to prepare for a zombie apocalypse, and other disasters of large scale)

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:20:42am

re: #268 JOE 🥓

Memories of Andy Kaufman’s early routine about the 17 minute gap in the Nixon tape. Andy said he got the stuff it was erased and turned on a tape of In A Gadda Da Vidda….

arlo addressed it too in one of his alice’s restaurant updates

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:22:09am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Writers trying to rehabilitate Nepotism Barbie’s image; nothing more than that.

If Ivanka Trump really wanted to stop the insurrection, she would have gone on television and radio at the time.

This is a PR campaign.

i dont believe half the stuff that’s ‘coming out now’ about what people thought or felt or tried to do back then.

if it was perilous, there were options
they were all protecting their jobs and careers, not their reputations

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:22:44am

If Michele is around, I see Reuters has a piece on Tenacious Unicorn Ranch.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:24:36am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The original Zombie Preparedness page at the CDC has become so popular since they created it, the CDC has now created educational posters, a graphic novel, and other information for educators, emergency planners, local politicians, and other people to use in demonstrating preparedness for emergencies.

CDC has a fun way of teaching about emergency preparedness. Our graphic novel, “Preparedness 101: Zombie Pandemic” demonstrates the importance of being prepared in an entertaining way that people of all ages will enjoy. Readers follow Todd, Julie, and their dog Max as a strange new disease begins spreading, turning ordinary people into zombies. Stick around to the end for a surprising twist that will drive home the importance of being prepared for any emergency. Included in the novel is a Preparedness Checklist so that readers can get their family, workplace, or school ready before disaster strikes.

Zombie Preparedness Graphic Novel

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:30:30am

re: #273 Rightwingconspirator

That’s the disinformation dozen document Psaki used to try and give the truth(s) about the vaccine some strength. It’s a real eye-popper.

Never get between libertarians and their money. Those twelve make a lot of money for Facebook.

Lying is protected speech. Facebook will protect it all the way to the bank, knowing not enough people will delete Facebook to matter (due to endless excuses on why they must have Facebook).

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:31:51am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Depends on how you define hyperbole.

I know for sure that 600,000 dead from covid is only a tiny fraction of the American population, but I know for damn sure I am not going to hang around conservatives who deny the seriousness of the problem.

(more)

Abuse by Clergy Is Not Just a Catholic Problem (more, New York Times, April 13, 2002)

And that “hard to come by” statistic from then is by design of churches. The numbers aren’t better today on the extent because they want it that way.

15% is a hell of a big number of clergy who have engaged in “inappropriate behaviour.”

So the number is roughly one-in-seven. That’s a hell of a lot better odds than dying of covid to date.

In my mind, no, that is not hyperbole.

Moreover, churches themselves are never held responsible for the people who commit the crimes.

hy*​per*​bo*​le | \ hī-ˈpər-bə-(ˌ)lē \
Definition of hyperbole
: extravagant exaggeration (such as “mile-high ice-cream cones”)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:37:20am

The Democratic mayor of Lincoln, Nebr. is getting dragged, as she prepares to bulldoze homeless camps.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:40:41am
Republican Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine signed legislation on Wednesday forbidding public schools and universities in the state from mandating any vaccination that lacks full Food and Drug Administration approval — covering all the COVID-19 vaccines, which have only gotten emergency approval.

An amendment to H.B. 244, OK’d by DeWine, states public educational institutions are not permitted to discriminate “against an individual who has not received the vaccine, including by requiring the individual to engage in or refrain from engaging in activities or precautions that differ” from those who have received the jabs.

However, the Ohio Department of Health can still demand quarantine for students and others who arrive at the state from different countries.

news.yahoo.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:41:12am

re: #282 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

hy*​per*​bo*​le | \ hī-ˈpər-bə-(ˌ)lē \
Definition of hyperbole
: extravagant exaggeration (such as “mile-high ice-cream cones”)

I know the definition of hyperbole.

The fact remains your child has a much greater chance of being assaulted by a pastor or priest than catching or dying of covid. That is not hyperbole.

If churches wanted to dispel “hyperbole,” they could open up their internal investigations to public inspection (while they’re doing that, they could also open up their monetary donations to the same, like every other 501c3 is required to do).

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:44:47am

re: #234 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I expect that a lot of the people who tried on the 6th will be choking on their own fluids when Delta reaches them. You can’t have a fascist coup if the fascists are killing themselves due to their distrust of trustworthy people and trust of grifters and lunatics.

Nope. This disease kills about 1%. Most of the fascists who get it will recover just fine and will act as though it’s just the flu.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:45:15am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

Any idea how much longer it will take the FDA to give full approval?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:45:42am

re: #286 Hecuba’s daughter

Nope. This disease kills about 1%. Most of the fascists who get it will recover just fine and will act as though it’s just the flu.

The original strain killed 1%. This one even has kids on ventilators.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:46:14am

Where to turn for COVID-19 testing as Test Nebraska sites prepare to close (WOWT-TV, Omaha)

Sunday is the final day to get a COVID-19 test at Test Nebraska sites across the state

A few charities and clinics will offer free testing in the east, but mostly people are now forced to pay for private labs if they want a test.

Governor Ricketts is really leaning into Trump’s “fewer tests mean fewer cases” coupled with blocking all state data from being published (which is why you see a black hole in data for the State of Nebraska in aggregate reports).

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:47:27am

Uncomfortable point to make. yet some volume and repetition will be required.

Unlike religions, gender, and ethnic minorities, unvaccinated is NOT a legally protected class. So if an entity like a cruise ship, club, store, or concert venue wants to require proof of vaccination to attend, too bad. The effort to protect most of us and reduce very real pathogenic liability must not be usurped by the angry anti vaxxer.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:47:35am

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Depends on how you define hyperbole.

I know for sure that 600,000 dead from covid is only a tiny fraction of the American population, but I know for damn sure I am not going to hang around conservatives who deny the seriousness of the problem.

(more)

Abuse by Clergy Is Not Just a Catholic Problem (more, New York Times, April 13, 2002)

And that “hard to come by” statistic from then is by design of churches. The numbers aren’t better today on the extent because they want it that way.

15% is a hell of a big number of clergy who have engaged in “inappropriate behaviour.”

So the number is roughly one-in-seven. That’s a hell of a lot better odds than dying of covid to date.

In my mind, no, that is not hyperbole.

Moreover, churches themselves are never held responsible for the people who commit the crimes.

As someone commented one a long ago, in a thread far, far away:

From “Sexual Abuse in Christian Homes and Churches”, by Carolyn Holderread Heggen, Herald Press, Scotdale, PA, 1993 p. 73:

“A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research. The first best predictor of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father. But the second best predictor is conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female roles. This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually abused by their father, the second most significant clue is whether or not the parents belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual attitudes. (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973; Van Leeuwen, 1990).

And if I remember correctly, the third best predictor is mental illness. And then we have the Venn overlap between the three…

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:48:20am

re: #219 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:48:49am

re: #290 Rightwingconspirator

Uncomfortable point to make. yet some volume and repetition will be required.

Unlike religions, gender, and ethnic minorities, unvaccinated is NOT a legally protected class. So if an entity like a cruise ship, club, store, or concert venue wants to require proof of vaccination to attend, too bad. The effort to protect most of us and reduce very real pathogenic liability must not be usurped by the angry anti vaxxer.

It is in Florida and South Carolina.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:49:04am

The Onion strikes again!

Law School Applications Increase Upon Realization That Any Fucking Idiot Can Be Lawyer

theonion.com

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:50:00am

re: #285 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I know the definition of hyperbole.

The fact remains your child has a much greater chance of being assaulted by a pastor or priest than catching or dying of covid. That is not hyperbole.

If churches wanted to dispel “hyperbole,” they could open up their internal investigations to public inspection (while they’re doing that, they could also open up their monetary donations to the same, like every other 501c3 is required to do).

And I believe studies show your child is no more likely to be abused by a pastor than by a teacher, or coach, or any other person who has access and some sort of authority over children.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:50:32am

re: #287 Eclectic Cyborg

Any idea how much longer it will take the FDA to give full approval?

Good question. Here in the EU, it likely won’t be until the end of 2022 or sometime in 2023.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:51:33am

re: #295 danarchy

And I believe studies show your child is no more likely to be abused by a pastor than by a teacher, or coach, or any other person who has access and some sort of authority over children.

The odds of my child were 100%. Thank you, Presbyterians.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:51:35am

re: #295 danarchy

And I believe studies show your child is no more likely to be abused by a pastor than by a teacher, or coach, or any other person who has access and some sort of authority over children.

Anyone who chooses to spend time with other people’s children is suspect.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:52:53am

re: #298 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Anyone who chooses to spend time with other people’s children is suspect.

Anyone who won’t submit to public review and wishes to do that is suspect.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:53:11am

re: #248 Belafon

Here’s the names of the 12 people who are spreading the most disinformation about Covid and vaccines: [Embedded content]

But it doesn’t include Tucker or Laura or any Fox celebrities. Seems that its focus on social media overlooks traditional media as a source of disinformation.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:55:05am

re: #129 Targetpractice

Over 60 years later, they still keep hoping for Bay of Pigs Part II: Electric Boogaloo to kick off. Apparently two major quagmires in the space of a decade didn’t clue them in that bombing the locals doesn’t tend to win them to you side.

Brigade 2056 is ready.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:58:23am

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The idea of the Christian legislative idea “Project Blitz” is to push as many Christian bills through state legislatures as possible, with the hope a few will get through.

When their playbook was exposed, they took it underground. It has been exposed again, with new legislative ideas such as undermining public libraries.

(more)

Exclusive: Christian Right Bill Mill, Project Blitz, Hasn’t Gone Away, It’s Just Gotten More Secretive (Religion Dispatches)

Texas-based religion scholar David R. Brockman originally described the purpose of the secretive project as “a covert campaign for conservative Christian dominion over law and public policy,” which remains true today.

The goal is to repeal the Johnson amendment.

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:59:51am

re: #298 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Anyone who chooses to spend time with other people’s children is suspect.

The seems to be a bit of an overstatement. Many, many people choose to spend time with other people’s children because they enjoy introducing them to sports, nature, chess, whatever. Or their kid wants to be in 4-H and the group needs a leader. Yes, they should be open to a background check and avoid situations where bad things could happen, both for their protection and the child’s.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 8:59:59am

re: #300 Hecuba’s daughter

But it doesn’t include Tucker or Laura or any Fox celebrities. Seems that its focus on social media overlooks traditional media as a source of disinformation.

It’s the top 12. And Facebook has a far bigger reach than Fox.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:00:18am

I’m going to stagger off to bed. It’s way past my bedtime.

Catch everyone another time.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:02:35am

re: #303 calochortus

The seems to be a bit of an overstatement. Many, many people choose to spend time with other people’s children because they enjoy introducing them to sports, nature, chess, whatever. Or their kid wants to be in 4-H and the group needs a leader. Yes, they should be open to a background check and avoid situations where bad things could happen, both for their protection and the child’s.

Yet, we find molesters in every activity where adults choose to spend time with kids, and we often find the organizations shielding them or covering up the molestation.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:02:38am

This guy has taken a picture of himself everyday for 21 years. This video uses AI to keep landmarks on the face together and compresses 7,777 days worth of selfies into two minutes. You’re watching half this dude’s life pass by in two minutes.

7777 Days

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:03:33am

re: #286 Hecuba’s daughter

Nope. This disease kills about 1%. Most of the fascists who get it will recover just fine and will act as though it’s just the flu.

The earlier variants killed around 2%. Do we know that applies to the delta variant?

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:03:56am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

With all the Christian summer camps having outbreaks of Covid-19 and refusing to work with contact tracers, citing “religious liberty,” I suggest we name the next variant of the virus after a Christian denomination which has promoted spreading disease.

Southern Baptist Convention = Southern Baptist Covid

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:04:46am

re: #288 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The original strain killed 1%. This one even has kids on ventilators.

The latest IFR estimate for covid globally is about .15%

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:06:40am

re: #306 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Yet, we find molesters in every activity where adults choose to spend time with kids, and we often find the organizations shielding them or covering up the molestation.

Organizations should never, ever shield a predator.
But I still think you are being very hard on the many people who work professionally or volunteer with kids without the least intent to abuse anyone, or else I’ve attributed too much weight to the word “suspect.” That’s an awful lot of people.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:06:55am

re: #292 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Western good morning!

[Embedded content]

sometimes nature is just awesome

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JC1  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:08:45am

re: #310 danarchy

The latest IFR estimate for covid globally is about .15%

What’s your source for this? Seems way too low. Over .2% of citizens in various jurisdictions died from covid, and not close to everyone was infected.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:09:21am

I just hope the “Freedom Phone” never comes out with an elderly friendly version.

Just paged.

LOL
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:10:28am

re: #311 calochortus

Organizations should never, ever shield a predator.
But I still think you are being very hard on the many people who work professionally or volunteer with kids without the least intent to abuse anyone, or else I’ve attributed too much weight to the word “suspect.” That’s an awful lot of people.

I didn’t say we should put them in the woodchipper, but an eye should be kept on them.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:11:54am

re: #310 danarchy

The latest IFR estimate for covid globally is about .15%

Right, I should have said symptomatic covid. But that “global” estimate is so far from the statistics in countries that can do more complete data collection and processing, that I would view it with caution.

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:13:17am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I’ll be there with you”

I still recall him uttering those words live.

I rarely tuned into Presidential speeches, but I did that time and recall those words and how that was a clear prompt to the people.

I fail to accept the argument that he was somehow “unaware” that he would “prevented by his security detail” from the masses up the Capitol steps: he was being a sick, manipulative traitorous fascist.

Yeah, I was watching that crazy on TV with my brother, decided it was time to go home to fix lunch, and in the 15 minutes it took to drive home, all hell had broken loose. Hell of a way to celebrate our mother’s 81st birthday.

Oh, and I’m thinking that someone needs to write a book about how Trump was just a mess from start to finish and call it “Shit’s Fucked Up and Bullshit: How America Got Suckered by an Incompetent Conman.” The part that NEEDS to be in the title is “Shit’s Fucked Up and Bullshit.” I’ve been astonished by the revelations coming out in books and really shit was fucked up and bullshit. For the record, I can give a pass to books by reporters; I doubt they had that information at the time it was happening. The former administration officials…AW HELL NAW.

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:16:03am

re: #313 JC1

What’s your source for this? Seems way too low. Over .2% of citizens in various jurisdictions died from covid, and not close to everyone was infected.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:18:19am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Several people in that thread are asking if “shit-ton” is a technical term in medicine. /s

One asked if it was SI or Imperial.

2 shit-tons = 1 fuck-ton.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:20:30am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I’ll be there with you”

I still recall him uttering those words live.

I rarely tuned into Presidential speeches, but I did that time and recall those words and how that was a clear prompt to the people.

I fail to accept the argument that he was somehow “unaware” that he would “prevented by his security detail” from the masses up the Capitol steps: he was being a sick, manipulative traitorous fascist.

It was clear to the people. Unfortunately for them he meant he’d be watching the attack on TV, which is how he experiences the world.

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:21:21am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That case in 1992 was the first time church leaders were held responsible for what one of their employees did. It was a Colorado case against an Episcopalian priest.

So I’m going to go with “not hyperbole.”

Given the way church leaders, both local and national, cover up child sexual abuse, it’s a serious problem. Mike Stone, one of the contenders for SBC president, told a young woman who was protesting the SBC re her own sexual abuse as a child that had been ignored by leadership that she was destroying the church. Hell of a thing to say.

I am now at the point where I will bluntly say that any Southern Baptist Convention church is probably unsafe unless they have a specific descriptive set of policies regarding child safety. (Hint: most of them don’t.) Other churches are in the same position. I don’t think churches are safe for most anyone who isn’t white, male and conspicuously well-off. The rest of us can just go to hell.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:22:12am

re: #314 Rightwingconspirator

Good concise takedown of the “Freedom Phone” grift here at Balloon Juice: . What appears to be a referral fee payable to RW “influencers” is a dandy kicker.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:28:42am

General Miley: they can’t succeed without the military, theFBi and CIA. We’re the ones with the guns.

Stephen Colbert: Got news for you, general. This is America. We’re ALL the ones with the guns.

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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:30:57am

About shower heads:
We moved into a new home in early June that was formerly owned by a MAGA. He had either a highly modified showerhead, or an older one before water metering was a thing. The shower flowed like a firehose. I, perhaps unfairly, assumed that he refused to get one of those communist, flow restricting, showerheads.
The shower is equipped with the single mixing valve, so you cannot adjust the water flow, just the temperature.
My wife complained that she was running out of hot water. We have a 60 gallon tank and nobody else in the house.
A new showerhead solved the problem.

(Guess why the home became available and why I cannot ask the guy)

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:34:43am

re: #324 Ming5000

This is the shower head I got when my old Waterpik got clogged.
amazon.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:35:17am

re: #308 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

The earlier variants killed around 2%. Do we know that applies to the delta variant?

The 2% overstated its lethality, because it did not reflect the many who were asymptomatic or had mild symptoms and were never officially diagnosed. If you are not officially tested, you do not show up in the statistics. A girl friend had the disease; the doctor’s office diagnosed her over the phone, but she never would have been included in the case count. South Korea and Israel both do extensive testing and their mortality rate is about 1% or less. Singapore, which also does an excellent job of managing Covid, has a mortality rate of about .06%. Countries with an older population are likely to have a higher death rate since, I believe, the death rate is about 10% for those age 85+.

I do not know whether there is confirmation yet that delta is more lethal, as well as more contagious. Certainly more people die because more people catch the disease.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:35:21am

re: #322 Jay C

Good concise takedown of the “Freedom Phone” grift here at Balloon Juice: . What appears to be a referral fee payable to RW “influencers” is a dandy kicker.

Thanks. Gonna add that link.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:35:58am

re: #321 mmmirele

Given the way church leaders, both local and national, cover up child sexual abuse, it’s a serious problem. Mike Stone, one of the contenders for SBC president, told a young woman who was protesting the SBC re her own sexual abuse as a child that had been ignored by leadership that she was destroying the church. Hell of a thing to say.

I am now at the point where I will bluntly say that any Southern Baptist Convention church is probably unsafe unless they have a specific descriptive set of policies regarding child safety. (Hint: most of them don’t.) Other churches are in the same position. I don’t think churches are safe for most anyone who isn’t white, male and conspicuously well-off. The rest of us can just go to hell.

What about all the black churches in the country? (It’s easy to get too close to a problem.)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:38:32am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oh boy - if they mess with Coke Zero it could probably kill the drink outright.

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:41:46am

re: #329 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh boy - if they mess with Coke Zero it could probably kill the drink outright.

Coke zero is pretty gross, so if they can fix it to taste more like coke, I am all for it. The only reduced calorie coke I can drink is coke life and my grocery store only carried it for a few months.

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:43:11am
“There’s a clear message that is coming through — this is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

— CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, quoted by CNN.

she said 97% of hospitalizations for COVID-19 are unvaccinated.

we’re past i sent you a boat, a helicopter, a vaccine

were approaching: I told you i was going to kill you

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:45:11am

re: #285 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I know the definition of hyperbole.

The fact remains your child has a much greater chance of being assaulted by a pastor or priest than catching or dying of covid. That is not hyperbole.

If churches wanted to dispel “hyperbole,” they could open up their internal investigations to public inspection (while they’re doing that, they could also open up their monetary donations to the same, like every other 501c3 is required to do).

A friend of mine and I have been casually going through PPP loan records to see which megachurches and ministries got them. While ProPublica’s website has the best information if you have the exact name, its search capability sucks. So I also use federalpay.org which allows you to search on more than one field. Then, sometimes, since it’s unclear what name the outfit is under, I use the state corporation commission records and the county property tax records to find legal names.

None of that helped in finding out that the target of my picketing had gotten a loan, but it had been paid out in Tulsa. Why Tulsa, you ask? That’s where Mark Driscoll’s money guru, Randal Taylor, has his office.

I also learned, after searching on the ZIP code and perusing the listings, that a “Richard Roberts” also had a loan delivered to the same address (1350 S Boulder Ave., Suite 800, Tulsa). I’m pretty sure this is Richard Roberts, the son of Oral, who was removed in a scandal heavily reminiscent of the Jerry Falwell Jr. scandal.

But yeah, would you ever have figured out that “Dream City Church” (very large Assemblies of God church in Phoenix, and host of at least two Turning Point events) had gotten a PPP loan if you didn’t check tax records to see the name their property was listed in. Why no! Because it was obtained under the name “The First Assembly of God of the City of Phoenix.” And almost $890,000 forgiven.

ETA: Covid denier John MacArthur famously sent back the payment he’d applied for, for his church “Grace Community Church.” But he kept his greedy mitts on the $4,382,821 that his wholly owned and operated “The Master’s University and Seminary” got.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:46:07am

re: #331 Dangerman

“I told you so” is not going to wash with the “faithful” because they have to really believe that they will be saved by G-d or they are not the real believers. This reminds me of what happened in Europe a few centuries ago.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:47:00am

re: #326 Hecuba’s daughter

Countries with an older population are likely to have a higher death rate since, I believe, the death rate is about 10% for those age 85+

Definitely jibes with Czech Republic - the overwhelming majority of our dead here were over the age of 80 (~85% of the total fatalities).

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:47:44am

rudepundit:

If we had a sane ex-president, this could all be solved. He would be out there talking nonstop about his amazing triumph in getting the vaccine done so quickly and how everyone should get it instead of whining about the election. But Trump is not sane. And, truthfully, neither is half the nation anymore.

heck, he could even say, “You want to stay alive don’t you, so you can own the libs, and defeat all Socialist Biden supporters? Get your covid shot and help me win in 2022 and 2024!!!!

or:

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:48:17am

re: #333 PhillyPretzel

“I told you so” is not going to wash with the “faithful” because they have to really believe that they will be saved by G-d or they are not the real believers. This reminds me of what happened in Europe a few centuries ago.

Then I guess they’ll be able to take it up with their god.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:49:35am

As if Germany wasn’t already having a shitty week….

Thousands of villagers in western German were praying for a miracle Friday night amid fears a nearby dam could collapse and inundate their homes with water.

The villages in the Euskirchen region, near the city of Bonn, have been evacuated with 4,500 told to flee their homes after cracks started appearing in the dam holding back the nearby Steinbach reservoir.

Engineers warned the dam is dangerously close to collapse after a huge amount of water was dumped into the reservoir as three months’ worth of rain fell on the region in just one week, causing widespread devastation.

The dam is designed to vent excess water, but its drainage system has been blocked by debris including trees and rubble from destroyed buildings. The strain was clearly visible Friday as huge cracks appeared in the soil reinforcing the front of the dam.

dailymail.co.uk

Yeah, it’s Daily Mail, but they’ve been doing good work covering the ongoing effects of the extreme weather hitting parts of Western Europe.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:49:54am

re: #279 calochortus

If Michele is around, I see Reuters has a piece on Tenacious Unicorn Ranch.

Thanks. It’s a GREAT interview.

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:50:15am

re: #294 JOE 🥓

The Onion strikes again!

Law School Applications Increase Upon Realization That Any Fucking Idiot Can Be Lawyer

theonion.com

Which may or may not be worse than going to law school because I had nothing better to do in the mid-1980s and, as my ex-bf said, my father would pay for it. (Granted, I put together a package of grants, loans and work-study that covered most of everything. I only occasionally mooched off my father.)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:50:29am
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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2021 • 9:56:51am

re: #328 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

What about all the black churches in the country? (It’s easy to get too close to a problem.)

OK—white churches. I don’t have enough information about black churches and I was wrong about lumping them in. I will say this, though, white churches across the spectrum of belief have a very very very bad habit of covering up child sexual abuse.

This organization, for example, started as a church split after The Episcopal Church started ordaining gays and lesbians because OMG TEH GHEYS. And now it’s being hammered by allegations that, gee, it covered up sexual abuse.

ACNA leaders to take over abuse investigation in Upper Midwest diocese

By Bob Smietana | Religion News Service
July 13, 2021|Updated July 13, 2021 at 6:53 p.m. EDT

(RNS) — A group of leaders from the Anglican Church in North America will take over an investigation into alleged abuse at an ACNA church in Illinois.

Mark Rivera, a former lay leader at Christ Our Light Anglican, an ACNA startup congregation in Big Rock, Illinois, west of Chicago, has been charged with felony child sexual abuse and faces a trial this fall. At least 10 survivors have alleged abuse by Rivera.

Before going to Christ Our Light, Rivera had been a member of Church of the Resurrection, a prominent ACNA congregation in Wheaton, Illinois, where he also had worked with youth. Because of that, former members of Resurrection’s congregation complain that Ruch should have informed the diocese of Rivera’s alleged abuse.

Although abuse allegations were reported to law enforcement in 2019, Bishop Stewart Ruch III of the Anglican Diocese of the Upper Midwes t did not inform church members in the diocese of the allegations for two years. Abuse survivors and advocates have been critical of Ruch’s handling of the abuse allegations, arguing that he took too long to inform members of the diocese about the abuse.

Ruch has called the delay a “regrettable error” and recently announced plans to take a leave of absence.

washingtonpost.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:00:40am

An 18-year-old is going to space with Jeff Bezos

The mystery bidder who put up a whopping $28 million for an 11-minute joy ride to the edge of space alongside Jeff Bezos will not make the trip, Bezos’ rocket company Blue Origin announced Thursday.

Blue Origin said in a press release that the person, who asked to remain anonymous for the time being, had to bow out because of “scheduling conflicts.” The winner will instead take a spot on a future mission. Flying in their place — alongside Bezos, his brother Mark Bezos, and Wally Funk, an 82-year-old pilot and one of the “Mercury 13” women — will be an 18-year old recent high school graduate named Oliver Daemen.
The flight is slated for July 20.

I have a bad feeling about this. If Jeff and his brother or even Ms. Funk are blown to bits, well, those are the breaks. Same deal if it happens with me. Getting a teenager killed is a whole order of magnitude less defensible. It would be like Challenger and the ill-conceived “Teacher in Space” PR program all over again. If they do survive, as seems likely, it could set off a lunatic “youngest in space” competition that would only end with Congress outlawing it, as they did when a similar craze for “youngest pilot” records ended in tragedy in when 7 year old Jessica Dubroff was killed in a hare-brained attempt to set such a record in 1996.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:01:46am

So, this scrolled by in my feed:

Is Capitalism Actually Efficient?

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:05:11am

re: #338 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Thanks. It’s a GREAT interview.

Alpacas my friend, Alpacas. A much more loving critter than those nasty llamas. :-)

345
JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:05:48am

re: #332 mmmirele

Why am I not surprised that these fucking Pulpit Pimps got their hands on PPP money even though they get away with riding the Tax Exempt Faith Based Gravy Train.

TAX THE CHURCHES!!!!!

346
Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:06:52am

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

If we get to the stage where we can actually have a “youngest in space” competition, we’re well beyond the issue of safely getting into space.

347
Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:06:54am

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

An 18-year-old is going to space with Jeff Bezos

I have a bad feeling about this. If Jeff and his brother or even Ms. Funk are blown to bits, well, those are the breaks. Same deal if it happens with me. Getting a teenager killed is a whole order of magnitude less defensible. It would be like Challenger and the ill-conceived “Teacher in Space” PR program all over again. If they do survive, as seems likely, it could set off a lunatic “youngest in space” competition that would only end with Congress outlawing it, as they did when a similar craze for “youngest pilot” records ended in tragedy in when 7 year old Jessica Dubroff was killed in a hare-brained attempt to set such a record in 1996.

old enough to get blown up in space but not to buy a gun (until recently) //

348
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:07:27am

Matt’s written some really good articles, but has seemed to have been compromised for years now. This may be due to some wild times in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Matt Taibbi’s Puff Piece On Tucker Carlson Is Proof He Can’t Do Journalism Any More (The Banter @ Substack)

349
Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:08:45am
350
mmmirele  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:09:30am

re: #343 Teukka

So, this scrolled by in my feed:

[Embedded content]

The Gospel Coalition, the information source for Neo-Calvinist pastors, published this earlier in the week. (I’m blocked by TGC, hence the screenshot.) I’d point out that the author of the article, Joe Carter, is not an economist or trained in an economics related field. He’s a fucking *pastor* and no, doesn’t have a fucking clue.

As was pointed out by someone else:

I told Joe Carter he needed to stay in his lane, just as I also said that I, with a BA in government and a JD, along with 20+ years in technical enterprise availability, was absolutely not qualified to opine on pricing. *headdesk*

351
Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:12:21am

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Secure like Parler lol

352
Belafon  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:12:50am

re: #343 Teukka

So, this scrolled by in my feed:

[Embedded content]

I can’t watch the video at work, but I generally figure that capitalism, when operating mostly correctly, is locally efficient: It’s not going to find a cure for a disease that only affects 5 people a year, but it will give you a choice between an expensive but decadent cupcake and a cheap but ok one, and you’re not going to get entire towns built that aren’t being used just to keep workers busy.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:14:48am

re: #352 Belafon

I can’t watch the video at work, but I generally figure that capitalism, when operating mostly correctly, is locally efficient: It’s not going to find a cure for a disease that only affects 5 people a year, but it will give you a choice between an expensive but decadent cupcake and a cheap but ok one, and you’re not going to get entire towns built that aren’t being used just to keep workers busy.

When you have the time, watch. 15 min well spent.

354
JOE 🥓  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:15:26am

The FloriDUMB Man Follies continue…

Enraged Florida man flashes gun, yells racial slurs, threatens to kill Black family after traffic dispute: police

Michael T. Parkinson, 55, allegedly followed the victim home for two miles on Thursday night after a dispute over merging, the Orlando Sentinel reports. Parkinson proceeded to get out of his vehicle and approach the victim’s residence, where his wife and juvenile daughter were inside.

Lifting his shirt to show a pistol, Parkinson yelled slurs before getting back in his vehicle, then driving past the home slowly four more times yelling slurs and threatening to come back and kill the victim’s family.

When Volusia County sheriff’s deputies spoke to Parkinson, he “continued to refer to the victim using racial slurs.”

And an added bonus..

On June 28, also in Volusia County, a 21-year-old man was arrested on hate crime charges after he pulled up alongside a Black family at an intersection and yelled, “I will kill you n*****.”

orlandosentinel.com

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:17:19am

re: #349 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

We changed 6 lines of code and commented them out

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:17:24am

re: #344 Dangerman

Alpacas my friend, Alpacas. A much more loving critter than those nasty llamas. :-)

LOL.

357
Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:23:49am

re: #354 JOE 🥓

The FloriDUMB Man Follies continue…

Enraged Florida man flashes gun, yells racial slurs, threatens to kill Black family after traffic dispute: police

Michael T. Parkinson, 55, allegedly followed the victim home for two miles on Thursday night after a dispute over merging, the Orlando Sentinel reports. Parkinson proceeded to get out of his vehicle and approach the victim’s residence, where his wife and juvenile daughter were inside.

Lifting his shirt to show a pistol, Parkinson yelled slurs before getting back in his vehicle, then driving past the home slowly four more times yelling slurs and threatening to come back and kill the victim’s family.

When Volusia County sheriff’s deputies spoke to Parkinson, he “continued to refer to the victim using racial slurs.”

And an added bonus..

On June 28, also in Volusia County, a 21-year-old man was arrested on hate crime charges after he pulled up alongside a Black family at an intersection and yelled, “I will kill you n*****.”

orlandosentinel.com


“Parkinson was lawfully carrying the weapon, the Volusia Sheriff’s Office said.”

Until the moment he used it as a threat in a nonlethal situation

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 16, 2021 • 10:31:01am

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Yeah, the phone may not be assembled in mainland China, but that doesn’t mean that the people/country making the phone isn’t going to be all the expensive (Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.)

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Dangerman  Jul 16, 2021 • 11:08:24am

re: #358 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yeah, the phone may not be assembled in mainland China, but that doesn’t mean that the people/country making the phone isn’t going to be all the expensive (Vietnam, Cambodia, etc.)

Its a telling exacticism


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