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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:36:22am
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:37:29am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Would you just GO AWAY ALREADY. My God, nobody cares, Meghan.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:37:37am

A “sovereign citizen” is telling a federal judge that he has no jurisdiction over her. This is not going to end well for her.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:38:11am

re: #3 No Malarkey!

A “sovereign citizen” is telling a federal judge that he has no jurisdiction over her. This is not going to end well for her.

Sovereign citizens among the 1/6 crowd, why am I not surprised?

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Thanos  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:39:29am

As soon as I finished this I knew you were going to post it Charles, it’s too good not to.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:39:43am

re: #4 Dopamine Fish

I don’t miss dealing with those kooks during my County days. I love their claim that spelling one’s name in all capital letters refers to a separate, fictitious legal entity. It looks like Ms. Bauer is pulling that nonsense.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:40:17am

So, a Capitol terrorist just got 8 months in prison. Jfc.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:41:52am

re: #3 No Malarkey!

A “sovereign citizen” is telling a federal judge that he has no jurisdiction over her. This is not going to end well for her.

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If a German appeared in our country they would be subject to our laws. It’s about where you are, not where you’re from.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:42:13am

Rerun from downstairs:

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:42:15am

re: #7 GlutenFreeJesus

So a capitol terrorist just got 8 months in prison. Jfc.

You might need to go read the last few posts from the previous thread.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:43:41am

re: #8 Belafon

If a German appeared in our country they would be subject to our laws. It’s about where you are, not where you’re from.

Not if the German didn’t contract to be bound by those laws. Yeesh, do you even sov cit, bro?///

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:47:41am

re: #3 No Malarkey!

A “sovereign citizen” is telling a federal judge that he has no jurisdiction over her. This is not going to end well for her.

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What does the “Brady rule” have to do with this idiot’s case (or insane “sovereign” claims)? Brady v Maryland is about disclosure of exculpatory evidence: what is Pauline claiming: that the prosecution has evidence she was actually on another planet* on Jan. 6th, and is hiding that evidence from the Court??

*with this nut, that may be a plausible defense…..

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:48:08am

re: #7 GlutenFreeJesus

So, a Capitol terrorist just got 8 months in prison. Jfc.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:48:22am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I thought she was off The View. Arghhhh!!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:49:33am
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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:49:37am

*gag*

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:51:41am

re: #16 Teukka

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:52:10am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Maybe she doesn’t watch fox news

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DesertDenizen  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:52:32am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Frankly, considering the politics and personality of the Border Patrol agents I know, I’m surprised they didn’t let it in so they coukd claim that Biden’s policies and leadership are failing. They are that evil and partisan.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:52:36am

re: #16 Teukka

*gag*

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JFC! “Satanic Ritual Abuse”??
They really are dragging out all the moldy oldies, aren’t they?

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:53:05am

re: #20 Jay C

JFC! “Satanic Ritual Abuse”??
They really are dragging out all the moldy oldies, aren’t they?

That’s one I haven’t heard in a looooooong time, since the days when Halloween was forbidden in my parents’ house.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:53:15am

re: #3 No Malarkey!

She may just get eight months so 🤷🏽‍♀️.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:54:43am

re: #21 Dopamine Fish

That’s one I haven’t heard in a looooooong time, since the days when Halloween was forbidden in my parents’ house.

And “160 MPs on the sex-offender registry”??

Surprised it’s only that few…….
;)
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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:55:27am

re: #12 Jay C

What does the “Brady rule” have to do with this idiot’s case (or insane “sovereign” claims)? Brady v Maryland is about disclosure of exculpatory evidence: what is Pauline claiming: that the prosecution has evidence she was actually on another planet* on Jan. 6th, and is hiding that evidence from the Court??

*with this nut, that may be a plausible defense…..

Sovereign citizens have such bizarre legal theories, even judges and attorneys have no idea what the hell they are claiming.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:57:24am

re: #20 Jay C

JFC! “Satanic Ritual Abuse”??
They really are dragging out all the moldy oldies, aren’t they?

re: #21 Dopamine Fish

That’s one I haven’t heard in a looooooong time, since the days when Halloween was forbidden in my parents’ house.

Yeah…

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:57:30am

re: #20 Jay C

JFC! “Satanic Ritual Abuse”??
They really are dragging out all the moldy oldies, aren’t they?

Well is there any other kind?

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:58:45am

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

She may just get eight months so 🤷🏽‍♀️.

I don’t know what she is charged with, but if she insists on representing herself, she is going to get a much worse sentence than if she had a competent attorney.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:58:48am

It bears noting that the prosecutors were asking for “only” 18 months in the Capitol rioter case. Prosecutors usually ask for as much as they can, sometimes more. If they’re only asking for 18 months, it’s not like the judge is going to go way overboard and throw them in the slammer for 5 years. I’m happy he’s going to jail at all; and as pointed out in the previous thread, if a man who literally just walked into the Senate chamber with a flag and didn’t do any actual damage or have any seeming malice got 8 months, that does not bode well for the real assholes who tore shit up or attacked the police.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 19, 2021 • 10:59:15am

re: #13 The Pie Overlord!

Two justice systems in America.

Yup. Federal and state.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:00:17am

re: #28 Dopamine Fish

It bears noting that the prosecutors were asking for “only” 18 months in the Capitol rioter case. Prosecutors usually ask for as much as they can, sometimes more. If they’re only asking for 18 months, it’s not like the judge is going to go way overboard and throw them in the slammer for 5 years. I’m happy he’s going to jail at all; and as pointed out in the previous thread, if a man who literally just walked into the Senate chamber with a flag and didn’t do any actual damage or have any seeming malice got 8 months, that does not bode well for the real assholes who tore shit up or attacked the police.

This sentence tells me that the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers are going to be prison gangs.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:00:28am
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Michele1  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:03:05am

re: #3 No Malarkey!

A “sovereign citizen” is telling a federal judge that he has no jurisdiction over her. This is not going to end well for her.

Judge should just slap her with a 90 day contempt charge and let her cool her heels in the tank. It may or may not change her attitude, but it would keep her off the streets for that much longer.

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aatharuv  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:04:40am

re: #31 Patricia Kayden

Or some of that 32% are just a bunch of lying self-serving fascists.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:05:11am

re: #32 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Judge should just slap her with a 90 day contempt charge and let her cool her heels in the tank. It may or may not change her attitude, but it would keep her off the streets for that much longer.

The judge gave her two weeks to adjust her attitude.

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:05:48am

She good

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:06:46am

re: #35 Dangerman

She good

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Agreed. I hope her successor is similarly up to the challenge.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:08:40am

YouTube is pushing anti-vaccer content.

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Michele1  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:14:42am

re: #34 No Malarkey!

The judge gave her two weeks to adjust her attitude.

Well better than nothing I guess. Odds are she’ll keep racking those two week “cooling off” periods for a bit as she strikes me as being that dense.

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aatharuv  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:16:40am

re: #37 No Malarkey!

YouTube is pushing anti-vaccer content.

Their algorithm is presumably using a presumably very high correlation between election conspiracy theorists and anti-vaccers and showing him videos they’ll think will keep him on the platform.

As long as misinformation stays on there, or at least is semi-hidden such that it can’t be suggested, people will keep on getting pushed “death promotional” content.

It’s possible to have a social media platform that increases the friction for getting out such information so that people have to at least spend a little time before hitting forward, share, etc, without actual censorship. For a while, for at least some tweets, twitter made it harder to retweet without adding some commentary to it. I’m not sure if that’s still the case, since I don’t use twitter all that much.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:17:05am

Shameless plug coming….

My son has a You Tube channel under the name RichardMetalFan. If you like metal music, he’s got lots of interviews with various band members and tons of album reviews. His latest is with the lead singer of the band Carnifex pre gig in Nashville. He’s actually getting pretty good at this for an amateur.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:18:09am

re: #540 darthstar

Oh hell no. This is big enough. But I hit the Samsung TV button and I’ve got thousands of other channels - including garbage like TYT and Newsmax…WTF do I want that shit for? I’ll bet I have OAN as well.

Yeah, these “free” TV streaming platforms are full of junk channels.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:19:55am

re: #31 Patricia Kayden

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Yep, still close to that 27% lunatic rate that keeps popping up.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:20:43am

re: #26 Dangerman

Why is there never Casual Satanic Abuse?

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:23:48am
President Joe Biden said that disinformation about Covid-19 vaccines on Facebook harms those who believe it, walking back his accusation last week that social media giants are ‘killing people’ by allowing the posts, Bloomberg reports.

Said Biden: “Facebook isn’t killing people These 12 people who are out there giving misinformation, anyone listening to it is getting hurt by it, it’s killing people.”

Once again, Biden “gaffes” by telling the truth and the villagers all clutch their pearls until he walks it back…

BUT this wasn’t a gaffe, its a strategy. And it worked.

All people will remember is “Facebook kills people”.

the admin and fb have been talking behind the scenes for months since the inaugurstuon . So probsbly his public shot across the bow really got to FB.
They prob made some promises and he rewarded them for playing ball.

Joes a pro and doesn’t care what it looks like.

And with Jen, the Guardian, etc actually identified these 12 ppl, now fb prob has to block them. of course they could’ve done it in 5 seconds 6 months ago, saving countless lives…

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:24:32am

When they start shooting Texas GOP politicians something might change.

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:26:43am

re: #45 jaunte

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When they start shooting Texas GOP politicians something might change.

Mandatory open carry. //

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:27:32am

re: #46 Dangerman

Mandatory open carry. //

Mandatory mounted weapon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:28:11am

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:30:06am
We weren’t there to steal things. We weren’t there to do damage. We were just there to overthrow the government.”

— Capitol rioter Saundra Kiczenski, quoted by the Washington Post.

I see a felony conviction in her future.
What with admitting it and all

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:32:13am

re: #49 Dangerman

So stealing things and damaging property is illegal. But overthrowing the government by any means they feel in their tiny dead hearts is perfectly fine….ok then…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:35:59am
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:36:12am

“No, we will not participate in another TFG shitshow.”

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JOE 🥓  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:38:00am

OH NO!

Turning Point USA CANCELLED THE PORN STAR!

Holy ssshhhaaavvviiinnnggg cream! They committed Cancel Culture!

GASP!

Testing the Trumpified GOP’s newfound love for freedom of speech, a right-wing porn star planned to attend the conservative youth organization Turning Point USA’s annual Student Action Summit 2021, which began this weekend in Tampa, Florida.

The conservative movement can be a big tent - a tent big enough to contain both Brandi Love, who purchased an “adult VIP ticket,” and groypers, the white supremacist followers of Nick Fuentes.

But things went haywire when Love arrived at the event, as the event’s white nationalist contingent approached her while more mainstream conservative voices fretted over what harms her presence might inflict on children at the event.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:42:17am

re: #53 JOE 🥓

“See, kids, you can be anything you want to be in Republican America,” as they should have said when Obama became president.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:42:25am

re: #53 JOE 🥓

more mainstream conservative voices fretted over what harms her presence might inflict on children at the event

“Why did Daddy immediately recognize that woman?”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:42:26am
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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:43:00am

re: #51 Dave In Austin

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Green mold

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:43:45am

re: #53 JOE 🥓

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plansbandc  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:45:24am

I can’t participate in the MTG smarter than, because I genuinely believe she’s mentally impaired.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:46:14am

re: #52 jaunte

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“No, we will not participate in another TFG shitshow.”

IIRC, they asked him back when the vaccines came out, to join them, Clinton, and Bush.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:47:12am
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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:47:34am

re: #57 Dangerman

Green mold

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:48:51am

Pretty muggy around here today, it’s monsoon season:

Image: G17-sector-psw-GEOCOLOR-48fr-20210719-1444.gif

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:49:17am

re: #60 Belafon

IIRC, they asked him back when the vaccines came out, to join them, Clinton, and Bush.

You’re not wrong. Ad Council cut ad around Inauguration Day with all the former living presidents. Trump refused, since he refused to attend Inauguration.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:51:13am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Replace the WH Press Corps with high school journalism students and the questions and answers would vastly improve.

The press doesn’t actually care what the answers are, doesn’t listen to the question or the answers by others, and it shows.

Fox is particularly awful in this regard. They care only for the gotcha moments.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:53:10am

re: #51 Dave In Austin

Poop. Decaying fruit. Bacteria and viruses.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:54:21am

re: #62 Teukka

A hammer bag with the hammers missing.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:55:35am

re: #38 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well better than nothing I guess. Odds are she’ll keep racking those two week “cooling off” periods for a bit as she strikes me as being that dense.

I wasn’t clear. She is still free, but could go to jail if she doesn’t allow a home visit by pretrial services in the next two weeks.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:55:53am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2021 • 11:57:35am

re: #56 GlutenFreeJesus

Name something smarter than Marjorie Taylor Greene?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:00:10pm

Does anyone know who that reporter is? I don’t recognize him.

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:01:51pm

re: #64 lawhawk

You’re not wrong. Ad Council cut ad around Inauguration Day with all the former living presidents. Trump refused, since he refused to attend Inauguration.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:02:09pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:02:39pm
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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:04:43pm

re: #74 (((Archangel1)))

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“They’re coming for freedom of the press” for 50 years or more
Just like mah gunz

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:05:47pm
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piratedan  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:05:49pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

I do often wonder if the idiocy we see represented in the press is incompetence at the reporter/correspondent level or if it or if these people are given direction and framing by their bosses to set narratives that they want pursued.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:07:38pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Doocy: They don’t want to die.

Well, if they don’t want to die, they have a choice: GET THE FUCKING SHOTS.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:08:01pm

re: #52 jaunte

She has the patience of Job!!

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:12:18pm

There’s a significant number of people out there who cannot get covid19 vaccines.

It’s children under 12. That’s a huge number. Millions of kids. They can’t get vaccinated because the vaccine isn’t approved for use on children under 12.

So, to protect them, you vaccinate yourself. And hope others over 12 are vaccinated because if enough people are vaccinated, you reduce the spread and hopefully prevent those children from getting it - with potential lifelong consequences for good measure.

Those who are immunocompromised also can’t get vaccinated. So there’s a huge number of people who can’t get it for medical reasons.

Everyone else is doing it for selfish reasons, dumb reasons, or ignorant reasons. The consequences of their reasoning not to vaccinate is the same: higher incidence of covid19, more chance for new variants, more hospitalizations, more death, and ongoing economic toll (micro and macro level).

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JOE 🥓  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:12:28pm

And we done found ourselves another PedoRepublican!

Chaos in Massachusetts GOP as vice chair resigns after being accused of sending ‘creepy’ comments to underage girls

The story alleged that Mountain had left “creepy comments” about an intern for Rep. Gary Palmer (R-AL). The story alleges that some of the comments were left on photos when she was only 14 and 15.

Mountain also allegedly also left “creepy” comments for an intern working for Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY) and left “a really weird boomer comment” on pictures posted by a young conservative activist.

And that’s not all, folks!

Mountain caught coronavirus and infected four of his family members after the mask-skeptic attended Trump’s White House Christmas party. His wife had reportedly begged him not to attend the party.

rawstory.com

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Michele1  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:13:06pm

re: #46 Dangerman

Mandatory open carry. //

re: #47 Belafon

Mandatory mounted weapon.

Why Johnny Can’t Speed - Alan Dean Foster

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:17:20pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Then why do we have a military?

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Michele1  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:18:41pm

re: #68 No Malarkey!

I wasn’t clear. She is still free, but could go to jail if she doesn’t allow a home visit by pretrial services in the next two weeks.

So I still have a greater than 50% chance on her dumb ass ending up in the cooler then :-)

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:19:14pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:19:23pm

re: #80 lawhawk

I have seen SO many kids around here not wearing masks when out and about. Hardly anyone is wearing masks anymore. Even some employees of Kroger and Walgreens aren’t wearing them now. I’m going to bet that by the time school starts back up on August 2 here we are in another surge, if not by then, by Labor Day. I really want to slap people with a shovel.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:20:05pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:20:59pm

re: #86 A Mom Anon

I have seen SO many kids around here not wearing masks when out and about. Hardly anyone is wearing masks anymore. Even some employees of Kroger and Walgreens aren’t wearing them now. I’m going to bet that by the time school starts back up on August 2 here we are in another surge, if not by then, by Labor Day. I really want to slap people with a shovel.

My daughter is wearing her mask when she goes to summer school. I’ll admit it - I’m not wearing my mask when I’m out, very few people here are, but with our county slowly ticking up towards 80% vaccinated, I also don’t think it’s that big of a stretch.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:21:47pm
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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:22:05pm

re: #85 jaunte

There should be no surprise. We are dealing with people who do not live as they preach. I’m not saying that it is the case, but we need to consider the scenario where we have people who, either intentionally or due to depraved indifference are killing and hurting others.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:24:25pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

Welcome to the everlasting bottom circle of Hell that is “support for legacy code”.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:29:15pm

The latest figures for MN:

One dose:
State: 67.8% 16+ / 66.1% 12+
County: 77% 16+ / 76% 12+

Fully vaccinated:
State: 64.8% 16+ / 62.9% 12+
County: 73.6% 16+ / 72.1% 12+

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:31:47pm

re: #88 Dopamine Fish

My daughter is wearing her mask when she goes to summer school. I’ll admit it - I’m not wearing my mask when I’m out, very few people here are, but with our county slowly ticking up towards 80% vaccinated, I also don’t think it’s that big of a stretch.

CDC guidance says wearing masks outdoors is unnecessary unless you’re in a crowd — or at least that was the rule last time I looked. I wear mine on busier streets, not otherwise (unless I forget and leave it on).

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:33:06pm

re: #93 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

CDC guidance says wearing masks outdoors is unnecessary unless you’re in a crowd — or at least that was the rule last time I looked. I wear mine on busier streets, not otherwise (unless I forget and leave it on).

Well, I mean even going into places. I have it with me in case I visit a place that still requires masks (such as going to the doctor’s office), but otherwise, I haven’t worn it in a couple of months.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:33:50pm

re: #92 Dopamine Fish

San Diego County is at:
79.5% one dose/12+
68.4% fully vaxxed/12+

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:34:44pm

re: #95 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

San Diego County is at:
79.5% one dose/12+
68.4% fully vaxxed/12+

Even the wingnut county to my south, which is where my church is, is at 73.6% 16+ / 70.2% 12+ fully vaccinated. Our Republicans aren’t that stupid.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:35:44pm
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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:38:41pm

re: #94 Dopamine Fish

Well, I mean even going into places. I have it with me in case I visit a place that still requires masks (such as going to the doctor’s office), but otherwise, I haven’t worn it in a couple of months.

Me either. My county has the second highest vaccination rate in Kentucky, nearly 2/3 vaccinated. But I don one without complaint when required.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:39:03pm

The interesting thing to me in MN’s statistics is how close 1-dose and fully vaxxed are. I know we had a lot of doses of the J&J vaccine, but that seems to indicate that we’re near the end of people getting their first doses. That also shows in the month-to-month accumulated statistics. It also says that Minnesotans appear to be quite good about keeping their second appointments, which is great.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:39:09pm

re: #96 Dopamine Fish

My right wing rural county is at 49% with two doses, 55% with one. I wish I could say I’m surprised, but I’m not. Just disappointed, especially because masks are disappearing, especially in the more conservative parts of the county.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:39:35pm

re: #94 Dopamine Fish

Well, I mean even going into places. I have it with me in case I visit a place that still requires masks (such as going to the doctor’s office), but otherwise, I haven’t worn it in a couple of months.

Around here, most businesses specifically require them. So does public opinion, the herd decision, or whatever you want to call it.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:41:42pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:42:00pm

re: #101 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Around here, most businesses specifically require them. So does public opinion, the herd decision, or whatever you want to call it.

That’s good. Around here, during the height of the pandemic, masks were generally frowned upon, but in true Minnesotan fashion, even our maskholes were polite enough not to get in our faces and scream at us for continuing to wear a mask. And we had a lot better mask compliance than other areas of the country, even though there was a lot of complaining about them.

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:43:28pm

This is bad:

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department will not prosecute former Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross for misrepresenting the rationale for a proposed citizenship question in last year’s census, according to the Commerce Department’s inspector general.

Ross “misrepresented the full rationale for the reinstatement of the citizenship question” during two appearances before House committees in March 2018, a letter from the department watchdog to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Oversight Committee Chair Carolyn Maloney, both Democrats from New York.

Inspector General Peggy Gustafson said her office presented its investigation to the public integrity section of the DOJ’s criminal division, but the matter was declined for prosecution.

The Biden Department of Justice did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the inspector general’s letter.

DOJ won’t prosecute ex-Trump Commerce chief Ross for misleading Congress on census question

This is really bad:

A federal judge on Monday handed down an eight-month prison term to the first person to be sentenced for a felony in the Jan. 6 Capitol breach, after attorneys argued whether the punishment would divide the country, deter future threats to lawmakers, or lead hundreds of other charged to face trial or plead guilty.

Tampa crane operator Paul Allard Hodgkins, 38, pleaded guilty last month to one count of obstructing a joint session of Congress meeting to confirm the results of the 2020 president election. He was seen carrying a red-and-white “Trump 2020” flag into the well of the abandoned Senate while others stood over the vacated vice president’s chair.

“The symbolism of that act was unmistakable,” U.S. District Judge Randolph D. Moss said. “He was staking a claim on the floor of the U.S. Senate not with an American flag, but declaring his loyalty to a single individual over the nation. In that act, he captured the threat to democracy that we all witnessed that day.”

Moss said the Capitol riots caused damage far greater than the few hours of delay in Congress’s tallying of the electoral votes, saying it “left a stain that will remain on our nation for decades.”

“It means it will be harder for all of us to tell our children and grandchildren that democracy stands as the immutable foundation of our nation. It means we are all fearful of the next attack in a way we never were, and it makes us question whether our democracy is less secure than we believed just months ago,” Moss said, calling the harms “enormous” and “chilling.”

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U.S. prosecutors had called for 18-month prison term, citing the need to deter domestic terrorism.

“Jan. 6 was genuinely an act of terrorism … The need to preserve respect for the law is really at its pinnacle in a crime like this,” Special Assistant U.S. Attorney Mona Sedky said.

The sentencing capped a dramatic 2½ -hour argument in which Hodgkins attorney Patrick N. Leduc blasted the government’s terrorism claim and warned that a harsh sentence would further divide the nation. Leduc urged Moss to heed the words in Abraham Lincoln’s Second Inaugural Address and show grace that each side of the partisan divide would claim for itself and deny the other.

Calling the Capitol breach “domestic terrorism” is “offensive and gaslighting the country, and it needs to stop … It was a protest that became a riot, period, full stop,” Leduc said.

The lawyer attempted to liken the Jan. 6 riot to violence that marred some racial justice protests in 2020 in Minneapolis and Portland, Ore., and invoke the First Amendment, arguing to the judge, “We need to be very careful.”

Eight months??? Ridiculous!

First felony defendant sentenced in Capitol riot, gets eight months in prison

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:44:03pm

re: #98 No Malarkey!

Me either. My county has the second highest vaccination rate in Kentucky, nearly 2/3 vaccinated. But I don one without complaint when required.

my county has one of the worst vaccination rates in Kentucky. Nobody is wearing a mask here except me. So I rarely leave the holler.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:49:58pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

my county has one of the worst vaccination rates in Kentucky. Nobody is wearing a mask here except me. So I rarely leave the holler.

I’m waiting to see what Andy has to say about Delta at 4pm. I don’t expect a return to the mask mandate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:51:28pm

jeebus

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:52:13pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

What a bunch of fucking assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:53:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:56:58pm
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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 12:58:39pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, I mean, they’re not wrong. What amazes me is that anyone’s actually upset about this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:06:18pm
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JOE 🥓  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:07:08pm

Even though this porn star is a contributor to The Federalist she got the boot from Turning Pointless!

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:07:37pm

The dancing is better than at CPAC

We are doomed.

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:07:51pm

re: #2 Dopamine Fish

Would you just GO AWAY ALREADY. My God, nobody cares, Meghan.

I’m amazed nobody drags her over naming her daughter after President Ford’s dog…

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:10:40pm

re: #114 BlueSpotinAL

The dancing is better than at CPAC

We are doomed.

Take the guns off and make them dance, we have some PR work to do!

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:11:14pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Let’s stop wasting time on the pretense that we can have out repug “friends” as allies and pass them both using reconciliation.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:12:05pm

re: #114 BlueSpotinAL

The dancing is better than at CPAC

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We are doomed.

But can they flip a burger?

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:12:06pm

re: #114 BlueSpotinAL

The dancing is better than at CPAC

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We are doomed.

I’ll be OK if they pick a robot rather than Sean Spicer on Dancing With the Stars.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:12:18pm

re: #117 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Let’s stop wasting time on the pretense that we can have out repug “friends” as allies and pass them both using reconciliation.

I don’t think we can unless we combine them both into a single bigger bill. I don’t know what the rules are for reconciliation, but I thought it was artificially limited to only 1 bill a year, and we got a second one this year specifically for some reason.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:13:32pm

re: #120 Dopamine Fish

I don’t think we can unless we combine them both into a single bigger bill. I don’t know what the rules are for reconciliation, but I thought it was artificially limited to only 1 bill a year, and we got a second one this year specifically for some reason.

The parliamentarian ruled that there could be more than one. It’s the filibuster-dems that are keeping it from happening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:15:19pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:16:54pm

re: #120 Dopamine Fish

I don’t think we can unless we combine them both into a single bigger bill. I don’t know what the rules are for reconciliation, but I thought it was artificially limited to only 1 bill a year, and we got a second one this year specifically for some reason.

That was what they thought at first, but the Parliamentarian recently said that more than two were okay, so I don’t see any objection.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:18:34pm

re: #32 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Judge should just slap her with a 90 day contempt charge and let her cool her heels in the tank. It may or may not change her attitude, but it would keep her off the streets for that much longer.

Because of Covid, it’s possible they are more reluctant to keep defendants in jail while they are awaiting trial, unless they are charged with a violent major felony.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:18:37pm

re: #111 Dopamine Fish

Well, I mean, they’re not wrong. What amazes me is that anyone’s actually upset about this.

Fewer supporters = fewer rubes to grift off

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danarchy  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:21:21pm

re: #123 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

That was what they thought at first, but the Parliamentarian recently said that more than two were okay, so I don’t see any objection.

This is just from last month. Sounds like she gave a no go on multiple reconciliation bills.

rollcall.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:22:09pm

But wind and solar power are communist and plots.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:23:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:26:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:26:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:32:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:34:17pm

nobody is paying attention anymore, governor.
they gots their freedumb and ain’t giving it back.

sigh

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:34:23pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

If the reservoirs behind Glen Canyon and Hoover Dam fall below dead pool levels, the power grid for the Southwest is in real trouble. Las Vegas essentially ceases to exist as a functional city. When they built the dams, they assumed a far wetter climate than it turned out to be. Now, we’re seeing the consequences of desertification and more extreme weather events, including extreme heat and drought. Too many people, and not enough water.

That’s a bad mix. And that’s the future.

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Mattand  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:34:35pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Meghan McCain: “Not everybody on Fox News is, you know, saying don’t get the vaccine. I actually haven’t heard anyone say that, but maybe I’m just misinformed.”

Brian Kilmeade literally did it either just before or during Captain Did-You-Know-My-Daddy-Was-John McCain’s stupid ass rant there was being broadcast.

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nines09  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:34:45pm

Good day good people. Take care of yourselves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:36:57pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

my moron congresscritter

bet he shows up at the Lions Club Fair superspreader event this week

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:37:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:38:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:41:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:46:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:46:11pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:46:55pm

re: #104 The GOP is a terrorist organization

Tap on the wrist. Pretty sure we will see many more insurrections because if this weak penalty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:48:51pm
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darthstar  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:50:54pm

re: #34 No Malarkey!

The judge gave her two weeks to adjust her attitude.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:51:56pm

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

Tap on the wrist. Pretty sure we will see many more insurrections because if this weak penalty.

This is just the first. A defendant with no record, didn’t attack anyone or destroy anything, and expressed remorse. A lot of violent defendants are going to get long prison sentences.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:52:56pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:53:41pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How much of that is because it’s not readily available in rural areas?

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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:55:00pm

re: #92 Dopamine Fish

We’re at half that here. I’m just over my fellow humans here right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:55:41pm
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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2021 • 1:56:55pm

re: #145 No Malarkey!

This is just the first. A defendant with no record, didn’t attack anyone or destroy anything, and expressed remorse. A lot of violent defendants are going to get long prison sentences.

I’m in the “throw the book” at them camp. Forget just the book. Throw the entire law library at them and then some.

They engaged in the insurrection to overthrow the US government. Those who engaged in violence plus the trespass should see even harsher sentencing.

No mercy.

You know - law and order. Respecting the blue line because 100s of cops were injured trying to stop the treasonweasels from invading the Capitol and harming members of Congress.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:01:04pm

re: #3 No Malarkey!

A “sovereign citizen” is telling a federal judge that he has no jurisdiction over her. This is not going to end well for her.

Which means that if someone assaults or robs her, she has waived all legal recourse.

These people do not think things through.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:01:32pm

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

Tap on the wrist. Pretty sure we will see many more insurrections because if this weak penalty.

Most people who were picked up and dumped into prison for eight months would lose their jobs; if they had a house, they’d lose it, they might lose their spouse, and they’d come out with (in this case) a felony conviction on their permanent record. You might wish it were longer, but it’s really not a tap on the risk. (Someone pointed out downstairs that similar offenses frequently get no time at all for a first offense.)

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:02:22pm

re: #145 No Malarkey!

We’ll see. If he broke into the Capitol, isn’t that evidence of violence? Tbh, the only reason why there wasn’t more violence is because the police were able to spirit away the (Democratic) Congressmen and women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:03:18pm

re: #30 No Malarkey!

This sentence tells me that the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers are going to be prison gangs.

And work on their own person versions of Mein Kampf

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:04:39pm

re: #33 aatharuv

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Or some of that 32% are just a bunch of lying self-serving fascists.

I would also say that the ones who truly believe it are probably less than 20% and the rest are just cynical, manipulative bastards who want to keep the outrage machine up and running

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ericblair  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:04:39pm

The Pegasus story is important reading: it’s an attack that needs no input from the user, and (at least for iOS) uses a broken part of iMessage to take root access of the phone and disappear after a reboot.

What annoys me is the editorializing: who the hell thinks that “the innocent not fear surveillance?” The entire political spectrum thinks their phones are being snooped, even though in most cases their government doesn’t give a shit what they do.

Also, the “Edward Snowden was right!” part. Yes, governments can and will monitor what intelligence sources they are able to penetrate, thanks for the big fucking insight. And you may notice that in the list of countries that have been spying on human rights activists and journalists, one major nation seems to be missing (hint: rhymes with Excited Snakes of Jessica). Snowden’s still a traitor taking refuge in a country that is one of the worst offenders in spying on civilians, however they want to whitewash him.

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:12:27pm

re: #156 ericblair

The government doesn’t have the time or ability to suss through petabytes of data being communicated on a daily basis to care who’s diddling whom, who’s taking out the trash, who’s doing what. They have more important things, and focus on national security threats - and communicating with foreign entities/persons of interest opens the door to see your comms swept up.

Don’t communicate with someone who is a foreign person of interest? Then you have nothing to worry about.

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2020 Blue Wisconsin  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:16:26pm

Winnebago County, WI Vaccination Rates as of 7.19.21

I really wish I could say I was surprised. I took a long cycle ride through the area this afternoon and there were countless Trump 2020 flags still being displayed along with more than a few anti-Biden, illegitimate president, etc. signs.

My personal favorite was the sign demanding that Biden-Harris resign for “bearing false witness against thy neighbor” (assuming that’s either Russia or the impeachment).

What alternate universe do these people live in that Biden is a liar and Trump, a man who never met a falsehood he wouldn’t pump if it served his purpose, is the upright exemplar? It truly boggles my mind at how baked-in these myths and beliefs are. Nothing will ever convince them and bring them back to a place where constructive dialog and compromise is possible.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:16:41pm

Beau talks about the 8 month sentence and fairness.

Let’s talk about 8 months, justice, and fairness….

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steve_davis  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:17:48pm

re: #77 piratedan

I do often wonder if the idiocy we see represented in the press is incompetence at the reporter/correspondent level or if it or if these people are given direction and framing by their bosses to set narratives that they want pursued.

No, they’re just morons. Once upon a time, the reporters who showed up at Washington press briefings would have been people, mostly alcoholic men, who’d spent a lifetime in journalism, often working themselves up from copy boy to beat writer to someone with aspirations of getting a regular byline. In the process, they honed their chops and learned their subject area. Now, they’re just meatheads. I’m trying to remember which journalism movie it was (I think it was the one where the female co-lead was scandalized to discover that I want to say Richard Gere had done multiple takes of an interview in which he pretended to shed tears over something he was talking about), but at some point, the grizzled veteran is having to baby the talent through breaking news, because the guy in front of the camera doesn’t have an actual clue what the context is.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:19:55pm
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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:19:59pm

re: #159 I Would Prefer Not To

Beau talks about the 8 month sentence and fairness.

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I keep loving his Disney shirt selection. And I have to find that one in particular.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:20:31pm

re: #114 BlueSpotinAL

Kill them with fire.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:22:48pm

re: #160 steve_davis

No, they’re just morons. Once upon a time, the reporters who showed up at Washington press briefings would have been people, mostly alcoholic men, who’d spent a lifetime in journalism, often working themselves up from copy boy to beat writer to someone with aspirations of getting a regular byline. In the process, they honed their chops and learned their subject area. Now, they’re just meatheads. I’m trying to remember which journalism movie it was (I think it was the one where the female co-lead was scandalized to discover that I want to say Richard Gere had done multiple takes of an interview in which he pretended to shed tears over something he was talking about), but at some point, the grizzled veteran is having to baby the talent through breaking news, because the guy in front of the camera doesn’t have an actual clue what the context is.

< Pierce Brosnan voice >
Broadcast News: Holly Hunter, William Hurt, Albert Brooks, 20th Century Fox, 1987.

< / Pierce Brosnan voice >

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:24:06pm

re: #160 steve_davis

No, they’re just morons. Once upon a time, the reporters who showed up at Washington press briefings would have been people, mostly alcoholic men, who’d spent a lifetime in journalism, often working themselves up from copy boy to beat writer to someone with aspirations of getting a regular byline. In the process, they honed their chops and learned their subject area. Now, they’re just meatheads. I’m trying to remember which journalism movie it was (I think it was the one where the female co-lead was scandalized to discover that I want to say Richard Gere had done multiple takes of an interview in which he pretended to shed tears over something he was talking about), but at some point, the grizzled veteran is having to baby the talent through breaking news, because the guy in front of the camera doesn’t have an actual clue what the context is.

Broadcast News—Holly Hunter and William Hurt.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:28:32pm

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:32:29pm

And just like that, we killed the thread.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:33:51pm

re: #166 JOE 🥓

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I remember that episode - The Trouble With Arnold Ziffels

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:34:04pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:34:56pm

re: #168 BlueSpotinAL

I remember that episode - The Trouble With Arnold Ziffels

The trouble with Arnold is that he’s the Tellarite ambassador.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:39:27pm

You know, since Dennis Miller went to the dark side and became a conservaloon, maybe the time is right for me to steal his old act of using old pop culture references to make tortured observations, cha-cha-cha.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:41:19pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:47:46pm

Seriously, folks, it’s too early in the day for me to try to lure out the ‘Mouse with a semi-academic historical porn discussion.

Though John Dillermand practically demands it.

/s

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:48:21pm

I stand corrected.

Mary’s dress sways

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:51:31pm

There are five windowsills in the main room of my house.

Four are easily accessible, one is not.

Guess which one my cat prefers?

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:54:34pm

re: #153 Patricia Kayden

We’ll see. If he broke into the Capitol, isn’t that evidence of violence? Tbh, the only reason why there wasn’t more violence is because the police were able to spirit away the (Democratic) Congressmen and women.

If he was one of the people who broke into the Capitol, rather than just walking in behind the vanguard, he would’ve gotten a stiffer sentence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:56:27pm

re: #176 No Malarkey!

If he was one of the people who broke into the Capitol, rather than just walking in behind the vanguard, he would’ve gotten a stiffer sentence.

breaking and entering vs illegal entry?

basically any of the protesters there were there illegally

that is the main distinction between them and Antifa and BLM protesters on public streets, even if there was some violence in those instances.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 2:57:18pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:00:54pm

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

breaking and entering vs illegal entry?

basically any of the protesters there were there illegally

that is the main distinction between them and Antifa and BLM protesters on public streets, even if there was some violence in those instances.

Of course, but the people who were merely there illegally are being charged with misdemeanors, and will do little or no time. He got a felony offense just for entering the Senate chambers, and will do 8 months. This sentence gives me confidence that the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers are going to do serious time.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:03:28pm
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:04:58pm

re: #178 No Malarkey!

ooh ooh, I know what spending we can cut to pay for it!!

Subsidies to oil and gas and coal companies. ICE. The F-35.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:06:26pm

Local news: I had to get my DL updated today because I’m a citizen now.

I also registered to vote. 😎

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:06:32pm

but Rand thinks they should just stay in their own country

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:07:19pm

re: #176 No Malarkey!

If he was one of the people who broke into the Capitol, rather than just walking in behind the vanguard, he would’ve gotten a stiffer sentence.

But your comment ignores the fact that HE HAD NO LEGITIMATE BUSINESS TO BE IN THE CAPITOL BUILDING in the first place. Walking into a crime scene with others who broke into the Capitol should net you a stiff penalty.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:07:44pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Congrats. And I am happy that you registered to vote. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:08:07pm

re: #82 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Why Johnny Can’t Speed - Alan Dean Foster

He wrote one of my favorite short stories — “With Friends Like These”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:08:07pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Local news: I had to get my DL updated today because I’m a citizen now.

I also registered to vote. 😎

Vote correctly and often!! Congrats!

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:09:05pm

re: #181 sagehen

ooh ooh, I know what spending we can cut to pay for it!!

Subsidies to oil and gas and coal companies. ICE. The F-35.

Farm subsidies should only be for farms that the owner’s mailing address and IRS address is ON THE FARM.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:09:43pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand doesn’t give a beep about their lives and safety.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:11:21pm

re: #189 Patricia Kayden

Rand doesn’t give a beep about their lives and safety.

Libertarians be like that.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:11:24pm

For the Swedish-speaking Lizards. SVT journo Carina Bergfeldt about her experiences when the Oslo and Utøya terrorist attacks occured… svtplay.se

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:11:28pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

But your comment ignores the fact that HE HAD NO LEGITIMATE BUSINESS TO BE IN THE CAPITOL BUILDING in the first place. Walking into a crime scene with others who broke into the Capitol should net you a stiff penalty.

He is a convicted felon who is going to prison and is losing his job. For a guy with no priors who didn’t engage in any violence, that is a stiff penalty.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:14:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:16:14pm

oh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:18:42pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:20:26pm

The new Some More News is really good. And I think Cody is striking a decent balance of praise and criticism of Joe Biden.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:21:56pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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Oh boy KKKevin names Gym Neighbors Jordan to the All Asshole Squad!

Can’t wait to see Liz Cheney go after Gym!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:22:35pm

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would also say that the ones who truly believe it are probably less than 20% and the rest are just cynical, manipulative bastards who want to keep the outrage machine up and running

I disagree. Yes — broadcasters and many (not all) politicians are cynical liars. But the vast majority are regular citizens who parrot what they hear on Faux News and Noisemax. They really and truly believe these lies.

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Tahitinho  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:22:58pm

re: #174 I Would Prefer Not To

Yes!

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Dangerman  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:24:19pm

my desktop just died
i am not happy
i think it’s the power supply
should have another one tomorrow to know for sure

i will not give up my windows 7!
though linux is looking more inviting

im going out for pizza

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:25:22pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pelosi should refuse to allow those jokers (who all voted against the certification of our election) to serve on the committee, if she has that power. Their only purpose is to cause chaos and defend the insurrectionists.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:26:05pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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Well at least MTG didn’t make the cut.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:30:11pm

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:31:39pm

20% of Americans believe microchips are inside COVID-19 vaccines - study | The Jerusalem Post

20% of Americans is approximately 65.6 million people. 74.2 million people voted for the orange GQP puffy fuckalope godhead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:32:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:36:51pm
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Michele1  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:37:48pm

re: #186 Hecuba’s daughter

He wrote one of my favorite short stories — “With Friends Like These”

That is also the title of the book the story is in.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:38:49pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kinda speaks volumes about where he is on the political spectrum. Like, if that conservative town was liberal in his eyes..

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lawhawk  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:40:55pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:45:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:48:18pm

morons

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:49:49pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DesertDenizen  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:51:41pm

re: #212 Belafon

But I’m sure many of those officers would coup for TFG. I know a fair number of mid level officers (Captains and Majors) and I have yet to find one who haven’t been vaxxed though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:52:04pm
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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:54:21pm

Insanity

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:54:22pm
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aatharuv  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:57:23pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lol, no they should hire Rudy, Lin Woods, or other fine lawyers like Orly Taitz. /S

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No Malarkey!  Jul 19, 2021 • 3:58:24pm

So if kids want to go to school naked for religious reasons, that’s cool?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:01:28pm
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DesertDenizen  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:02:00pm

re: #218 No Malarkey!

So none of those families have anyone in anything resembling a medical field? Or the military,? Or construction? Or factory work? Or any of the dozens of jobs that regularly cover the face? What fucking bullshit. More lying for Christ.

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:02:50pm

re: #218 No Malarkey!

So if kids want to go to school naked for religious reasons, that’s cool?

No, because Matt Gaetz will really want cameras in the classroom then…

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DesertDenizen  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:03:44pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

I reiterate from previous comments, based on my personal experience with Border Patrol agents I’m shocked they didn’t let it in to kill people and then blame “Biden’s Open Border Policy” to score political points.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:03:44pm

What does “freedom of religion” mean when it has been normalized that beliefs can be invented on the fly?

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DesertDenizen  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:05:21pm

re: #223 The Ghost of a Flea

When it’s Xtians doing it to justify their sociopathic political behaviors.

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John Hughes  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:05:42pm

re: #156 ericblair

t. And you may notice that in the list of countries that have been spying on human rights activists and journalists, one major nation seems to be missing

One?

Edit: the available information seems to say that the only “major” countries using Pegasus were Mexico and India.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:08:01pm

For months now this woman I used to go to Church with has been spreading anti-vax conspiracy theories on social media.

Last week her brother got Covid.

Her latest post:

“Calling all Prayer warriors! Jim* is not doing well. Please lift him up and pray the medicines they are giving him start to work! We are asking for healing in the name of Jesus!!”

*Not her brothers real name.

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Skandal  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:08:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:09:23pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:10:09pm

re: #215 No Malarkey!

Airbnb is allowing such anti-science nonsense? I hope not.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:13:17pm

re: #227 Skandal

A Black woman is languishing in prison in Texas for five years for voting so we already know what’s up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:14:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:16:10pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:17:51pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Followed by anguished shouts of: “FAKE NEWS!!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:22:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:28:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:34:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:38:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:45:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:47:11pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:48:22pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

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Michele1  Jul 19, 2021 • 4:49:38pm

Hmmmmm. Looks like a plea bargain is being negotiated and I may not have to appear at all. Like that would totally break my heart. NOT!

July jurors with the numbers 826 through the number 909 and the numbers 31 through the number 130 - Please take notice the court needs you to check back at 11:00 a.m. to see if you will need to appear at 1:00 p.m. Tuesday, July 20th You no longer need to appear at 8:30 a.m. just check back as instructed, we apologize for any inconvenience, we will update this message as soon as possible. Thank you

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:00:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:05:39pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:06:37pm

She’s running.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:07:21pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:08:00pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

Woops. We travel semi-regularly to visit friends in Medford and to shop in a small Japanese market there. I think this is past our exit though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:12:16pm

re: #244 darthstar

She’s running.

lol

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:12:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:16:11pm
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darthstar  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:17:10pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:17:13pm

I’m starting to think that Jen Psaki is paying Doocy for these questions.

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:20:55pm

re: #251 Barefoot Grin

I’m starting to think that Jen Psaki is paying Doocy for these questions.

Doocy’s mission is to elevate Trump. Jen Psaki isn’t going to give him one inch in that regard.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:22:28pm

re: #252 darthstar

She will not give DT one millimeter of recognition.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:23:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:24:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:25:23pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:30:11pm

re: #245 Patricia Kayden

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:30:12pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:33:14pm
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:39:46pm

re: #257 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

George and Martha never had children. so,

a) she was infertile
b) he was; or
c) they didn’t have sex.

Do we know which?

I know Jefferson’s descendants via Sally Hemmings have been DNA’d.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:43:01pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:45:16pm

re: #260 sagehen

But George had close relatives. So if George had children out of wedlock (with a slave), that child’s descendants will show up as cousins to the descendants of George’s close family.

I know Jefferson’s descendants via Sally Hemmings have been DNA’d.

Those tests support the conclusions reached, but DNA tests are not “proof” of direct descendance. The DNA evidence adds to the historical evidence to reach the conclusion, which still can never be 100% certain.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:49:18pm

re: #260 sagehen

George and Martha never had children. so,

a) she was infertile
b) he was; or
c) they didn’t have sex.

Do we know which?

I know Jefferson’s descendants via Sally Hemmings have been DNA’d.

I think Martha had already had children with her first husband, so the “fault” was with George (attributed, as I recall, to the possible after-effects of smallpox).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:49:25pm

re: #260 sagehen

Oh, and Martha had children by her first marriage. The wikipedia entry suggests her last child may have damaged her enough so she couldn’t have more children, but I think that is sort of unlikely (but I guess possible.)

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:51:19pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:51:29pm

re: #263 Jay C

Figuring out 18th century family history is often challenging.

I have several 18th century brick walls in my genealogy that don’t lend themselves well to typical research.

The reality is most information about the past is lost quickly.

This is why I’m so skeptical of those who claim to be so certain about something that happened centuries ago.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:52:23pm

re: #252 darthstar

Doocy’s mission is to elevate Trump. Jen Psaki isn’t going to give him one inch in that regard.

I know. But it’s so easy.

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plansbandc  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:57:44pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Congratulations!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:58:31pm

Right wing preacher having conniptions over reparations:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 5:59:13pm
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JOE 🥓  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:04:45pm
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JOE 🥓  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:06:19pm

re: #269 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Right wing preacher having conniptions over reparations:

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Must be nice to live the Tax-Exempt Pulpit Pimping Lifestyle where you fleece the flock to buy that next Rolls-Royce!

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:10:42pm

re: #241 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hmmmmm. Looks like a plea bargain is being negotiated and I may not have to appear at all. Like that would totally break my heart. NOT!

July jurors with the numbers 826 through the number 909 and the numbers 31 through the number 130 - Please take notice the court needs you to check back at 11:00 a.m. to see if you will need to appear at 1:00 p.m. Tuesday, July 20th You no longer need to appear at 8:30 a.m. just check back as instructed, we apologize for any inconvenience, we will update this message as soon as possible. Thank you

My email today:

Update to Your Juror Status

Inside:

Your Juror record has been updated with a new status. Your new status is: Dismiss.

The non-trial didn’t happen 3 weeks ago.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:13:19pm

re: #273 wrenchwench

Your Juror record has been updated with a new status. Your new status is: Dismiss.

Grammatically shaky, but welcome news, I’m sure…..

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:14:34pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:16:22pm

re: #274 Jay C

Grammatically shaky, but welcome news, I’m sure…..

We could shake it up a little more.

Your new status is: Dis Miss.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:16:31pm

re: #253 PhillyPretzel

She will not give DT one millimeter of recognition.

I just wanted her to flash a great big NOPE meme.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:20:25pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:20:53pm

re: #260 sagehen

George and Martha never had children. so,

a) she was infertile
b) he was; or
c) they didn’t have sex.

Do we know which?

I know Jefferson’s descendants via Sally Hemmings have been DNA’d.

Martha had children with her first husband, so she wasn’t infertile. We don’t know if George raped had sex with Martha’s enslaved people.

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Michele1  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:21:46pm

re: #273 wrenchwench

My email today:

Inside:

The non-trial didn’t happen 3 weeks ago.

It took them 3 weeks to “officially” notify you that the trail was canceled? Damn! At least the Courts here are a bit more on the ball.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:27:10pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:29:04pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Big freaking deal. 12 hours? What a load of shit. She’ll be right back at it in the morning. I heard audio of her earlier calling DC the District of Communism. I am VERY tired of the bad guys winning all the fucking time. They get a little tap on the wrist for show and nothing else. It’s crap.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:39:13pm

re: #248 Patricia Kayden

What if you have no mobile service or mobile equipment? I guess we’re banned, vaccination or no.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:39:21pm
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sagehen  Jul 19, 2021 • 6:46:43pm

re: #275 DodgerFan1988

I don’t know who Franklin Leonard is, but when I was first in New York I worked at a place on Leonard St, and I got there via the Franklin St subway station…

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Nojay UK  Jul 19, 2021 • 7:05:33pm

re: #284 The Ghost of a Flea

In other news The Last Dangerous Visions is set for publication any day now.

Really.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2021 • 7:11:53pm

re: #284 The Ghost of a Flea

Where’s the headphone jack?

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darthstar  Jul 19, 2021 • 7:28:02pm

re: #253 PhillyPretzel

She will not give DT one millimeter of recognition.

And god bless her for that.

re: #267 Barefoot Grin

I know. But it’s so easy.

Well, he is a product of his father’s loins.


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