Pelosi Axes McCarthy's Ludicrous 1/6 Committee Picks, So McCarthy Pulls Out Entirely

Pelosi Axes McCarthy’s Ludicrous 1/6 Committee Picks, So McCarthy Pulls Out Entirely

PoliticsJuly 2021 • Views: 24,987

Well, this was nothing if not predictable. Trump loyalist Kevin McCarthy tried to stack the 1/6 committee with Trump loyalists, Nancy Pelosi said, “No thanks, no Trump loyalists allowed,” so then McCarthy pulled all 5 GOP members from the committee.

So at least we won’t have Jim Jordan grandstanding and blatantly lying. We might actually have something more like a real investigation. But there’s no doubt the Republican Party will be pulling out all the stops to sabotage it anyway, because the last thing they want is for the real truth to be exposed.

They’ve made that very clear.

(CNN)House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy is pulling his five Republican members selected to join the House committee that’s investigating the January 6 insurrection, following House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s decision to reject two of McCarthy’s picks, a source with direct knowledge confirmed to CNN.

Earlier Wednesday, Pelosi announced she was vetoing the appointment of two Republicans who objected to the certification of the November election, Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Jim Banks of Indiana, to the House select committee.

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299 comments

A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 10:29:01am

Aww. What a shame. And Buckley Carlson won’t have the inside scoop to share with Daddy every evening. Darn. Oh well….

Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 10:30:04am

Is Cheney still on the committee?

JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 10:30:08am

GREAT!

Nancy set the trap and McCarthy walked right into it with help from McConnell!

No Malarkey! Jul 21, 2021 • 10:30:48am

Absolutely the right call. The GQP attempted a coup, and their only interest in the committee is to sabotage it.

No Malarkey! Jul 21, 2021 • 10:31:36am

re: #2 Belafon

Is Cheney still on the committee?

As far as I know; I don’t think she is taking orders from McCarthy anymore.

JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 10:33:00am

Just waiting for Liz Cheney to tell McCarthy to fuck off.

I Would Prefer Not To Jul 21, 2021 • 10:33:44am

re: #6 JOE 🥓

Just waiting for Liz Cheney to tell McCarthy to fuck off.

I think she did. And is still doing it.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 21, 2021 • 10:41:03am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

I think she did. And is still doing it.

“…and then go fuck off over there, a few steps farther back, there, to your left, yes, now fuck off there, too…”

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Florida Panhandler Jul 21, 2021 • 10:47:27am

This is the most serious period of time in our nation’s history since the Civil War- and yes I mean this situation is more dire than WW2.

We are talking about a fundamental change in this country should any Republican gain control for the foreseeable future. We have a cult Republican political party with a ~40% outright support or malignant disregard for the consequences population intent on sabotaging democracy itself.

40% of the country wants to rule with 100% of the power and impose a very patriarchal and intellectually backwards ideology and then impose this will upon outside nations via force or extortion. Democrats is Congress owe it to us to expose and eventually enable legal prosecution of EVERYONE involved with this coup attempt….before it becomes a successful coup in as little as 3 years.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 10:50:26am

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 10:50:32am

RATIO OF THE DAY

Pelosi’s move to reject GOP picks for the 1/6 panel is going to be a gift to Kevin McCarthy in the long run.

He wanted this panel to look partisan and political. Now it’s definitely going to look partisan and political.

— Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) July 21, 2021

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 21, 2021 • 10:51:54am

re: #10 Florida Panhandler

40% of the country wants to rule with 100% of the power and impose a very patriarchal and intellectually backwards ideology and then impose this will upon outside nations via force or extortion. Democrats is Congress owe it to us to expose and eventually enable legal prosecution of EVERYONE involved with this coup attempt….before it becomes a successful coup in as little as 3 years.

They know this is their last chance, demographics and time are working against them.

And we cannot take for granted any of the progress we have made in personal freedoms, minority, women’s or LGBTQ rights, much less the reforms in environmental and health protections. I won’t even mention labor rights as they are minimal to nonexistent to begin with.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 21, 2021 • 10:53:00am

re: #12 The Pie Overlord!

RATIO OF THE DAY

Dickheads did not want this at all in the first place although the Benghazi Boogalooed out the wazoo.

The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 10:53:01am

Let’s see them “boycott” the subpoenas they receive.

Breaking: House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy threatens to boycott a House investigation of the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol if Democrats won’t accept the members he appointed.https://t.co/atF5LgF2Fd

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) July 21, 2021

teleskiguy Jul 21, 2021 • 10:53:53am

123 years ago there was a coup in Wilmington, NC. It was successful.

Teddy's Person Jul 21, 2021 • 10:55:13am

Teddy started hydrotherapy last week. He’s a trooper even though it scares him a bit.

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 10:55:23am

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

Let’s see them “boycott” the subpoenas they receive.

They did it all the fucking time during the Trump admin.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 10:56:39am

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JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 10:56:40am

Nice. Subpoena Gym Jordan and McCarthy and grill those assholes for 11 hours.

Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 11:01:03am

re: #20 JOE 🥓

Nice. Subpoena Gym Jordan and McCarthy and grill those assholes for 11 hours.

Republicans got away with ignoring subpoenas during Trump’s reign so I guess we will see what happens.

JC1 Jul 21, 2021 • 11:01:22am

re: #16 teleskiguy

123 years ago there was a coup in Wilmington, NC. It was successful.

Never learned about this one in school. Damn.

retired cynic Jul 21, 2021 • 11:01:47am

From below:

re: #142 William Lewis

Well, I am back. Did I miss anything exciting?

Springfield Il is a good place for a pair of history nuts to be tourists together. Great Lincoln museums and a beautiful Frank Lloyd Wright house. Plus lots of nice restaurants (mmm chicken tikka masala! )

Interesting tidbit: this was the longest time we have ever spent together. It went …very well. 😎

I am so glad you got to visit some of my favorite places! (The Lincoln Home and the FLW house just a couple of blocks and 50 years apart!)

The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 11:02:27am

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 11:03:24am

re: #10 Florida Panhandler

This is the most serious period of time in our nation’s history since the Civil War- and yes I mean this situation is more dire than WW2.

We are talking about a fundamental change in this country should any Republican gain control for the foreseeable future. We have a cult Republican political party with a ~40% outright support or malignant disregard for the consequences population intent on sabotaging democracy itself.

40% of the country wants to rule with 100% of the power and impose a very patriarchal and intellectually backwards ideology and then impose this will upon outside nations via force or extortion. Democrats is Congress owe it to us to expose and eventually enable legal prosecution of EVERYONE involved with this coup attempt….before it becomes a successful coup in as little as 3 years.

And what the other side thinks is that it is the most serious period of time since the civil war because “those people” want to rule with 100% of the power while only being 40% of the population.

JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 11:03:42am

re: #23 retired cynic

From below:

re: #142 William Lewis

Well, I am back. Did I miss anything exciting?

Springfield Il is a good place for a pair of history nuts to be tourists together. Great Lincoln museums and a beautiful Frank Lloyd Wright house. Plus lots of nice restaurants (mmm chicken tikka masala! )

Interesting tidbit: this was the longest time we have ever spent together. It went …very well. 😎

I am so glad you got to visit some of my favorite places! (The Lincoln Home and the FLW house just a couple of blocks and 50 years apart!)

When I lived in Oak Park Illinois I loved walking all over town and looking at all the beautiful buildings Frank Lloyd Wright designed!

JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 11:05:10am

Thank you @SpeakerPelosi. @GOPLeader McCarthy and the @GOP enabled an attack on our Democracy. If they don’t want an honest effort now to protect America, so be it. Americans need to know what happened. Thank you for your leadership. https://t.co/tnSNcsYc0h

— Fred Guttenberg (@fred_guttenberg) July 21, 2021

The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 11:16:39am

The GOP’s only plan was to let Jim Jordan go into Jan 6th hearings and start screaming and disrupting like the b*tch ass little pedophile enabler he is, they have no game because they’re all guilty. @Jim_Jordan

— NoelCaslerComedy (@CaslerNoel) July 21, 2021

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Citizen K Jul 21, 2021 • 11:21:46am

The only way it’ll be a ‘gift’ is if the political media allows the GOP to set the narrative about the committee and almost exclusively privileges their rhetoric to exclusion.

….which may mean it still just may be a ‘gift’, depressingly enough.

— Citizen K Dissents (@Citizen_Kryptik) July 21, 2021

Charles Johnson Jul 21, 2021 • 11:22:57am

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KingKenrod Jul 21, 2021 • 11:26:34am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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I knew this day would come. The current version doesn’t do enough to push bullshit I’m not interested in, and it has options that are useful.

Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Jul 21, 2021 • 11:27:25am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

They did it all the fucking time during the Trump admin.

Well something tells me that Madam Speaker will have NO qualms about sending the House Master At Arms to drag their dumb asses in. If they refuse, well contempt charges can be levied as well I believe.

No Malarkey! Jul 21, 2021 • 11:29:51am

Another dumbass looking to get a long stint in prison by representing himself. I say let him.

!! ALERT

“I will represent myself!” Jan 6 defendant Zach Alam is yelling at attorneys and clerks who are awaiting judge in his Jan 6 case

Alam of Texas is accused of breaking the window at the Speaker’s Lobby

Alam is trying to dump his lawyer and take over his own defense pic.twitter.com/8fKVRLyf7F

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) July 21, 2021

piratedan Jul 21, 2021 • 11:33:52am

re: #30 Citizen K

we will give Pelosi the benefit of the doubt here…. does she allow the likes of Jordan and Banks to give multiple soundbites per day from the hearing to allow Faux to distort its findings or will Fox and their ilk just have to make shit up and try and cherry pick from the video released to tell us that up is actually down and that black and white have no distinguishing differences…

I prefer the latter, because the former has the patina of authenticity, which the GOP has been known to embrace with fervor. The other benefit is that there will be less time being pissed away with their dramatics and more time actually getting to the foundations of how this was planned, funded and executed.

If they subpoena GOP members of the House and the Senate and they refuse to show, arrest them. They made Clinton show up for Benghazi, I don’t see why some of them shouldn’t answer questions if there is a need.

Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 11:36:37am

re: #20 JOE 🥓

Nice. Subpoena Gym Jordan and McCarthy and grill those assholes for 11 hours.

They’ll refuse to testify and ignore any subpoena thrown at them, unless Dems use inherent contempt.

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 11:43:46am

re: #36 Eric The Fruit Bat

They’ll refuse to testify and ignore any subpoena thrown at them, unless Dems use inherent contempt.

Pelosi can call all of the cops that were protecting the Capitol, and then start calling generals and such in the National Guard and the Pentagon.

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retired cynic Jul 21, 2021 • 11:45:54am

re: #22 JC1

Never learned about this one in school. Damn.

Me, either. Horrifying! And we still have those people, we do. Thank you, ‘ski, for educating this old lady.

JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 11:46:02am

And where does McCarthy plan on doing his “own investigation” into Jan 6th if he’s blocking Republicans from participating in the official Congressional investigation?

Parler? https://t.co/jAfDg9LwSg

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 21, 2021

Citizen K Jul 21, 2021 • 11:46:45am

re: #35 piratedan

we will give Pelosi the benefit of the doubt here…. does she allow the likes of Jordan and Banks to give multiple soundbites per day from the hearing to allow Faux to distort its findings or will Fox and their ilk just have to make shit up and try and cherry pick from the video released to tell us that up is actually down and that black and white have no distinguishing differences…

I prefer the latter, because the former has the patina of authenticity, which the GOP has been known to embrace with fervor. The other benefit is that there will be less time being pissed away with their dramatics and more time actually getting to the foundations of how this was planned, funded and executed.

If they subpoena GOP members of the House and the Senate and they refuse to show, arrest them. They made Clinton show up for Benghazi, I don’t see why some of them shouldn’t answer questions if there is a need.

I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’s absolutely the right move for Pelosi, and I applaud her for that. I just know that the media is working extremely hard to sell the GOP narrative above all others yet again, and making it seem like no matter what Pelosi did, the GOP would get to set the frames anyway. Precious little she or the Dems can really do about that, especially when the media seems to double down out of spite if/when Dems do complain about things.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 11:47:18am

She’s not. She’s just not letting the guys with the gas cans be part of the arson investigation. https://t.co/blGafRBW8b

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 11:50:04am

“Banks curiously added that he “will do everything possible to give the American people the facts about the lead up to January 6, the riot that day, and the responses from Capitol leadership and the Biden administration.” [Notable: Biden was not the president on Jan. 6.]”

— Rabbi Ruti Regan 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇸 (@RutiRegan) July 21, 2021

I know that Jim Jordan does this regularly because I have watched a lot of House committee hearings over the past few years. Most of them were held by committee he’s a member of, and I saw him try to derail every single one of those with racist conspiracy theories.

— Rabbi Ruti Regan 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇸 (@RutiRegan) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 11:52:09am

This was the right call by @SpeakerPelosi. You don’t appoint the perpetrators to investigate the crime.

McCarthy was acting in bad faith to play politics and sabotage the select committee. We need serious investigators find the full truth of the #January6thInsurrection. https://t.co/aoPWBv6tZn

— Rep. Jared Huffman (@RepHuffman) July 21, 2021

.@SpeakerPelosi has made the right call at the right time. If we are going to get to the bottom of the #January6thInsurrection— an attack on America, we need a Committee of truth tellers, not conspiracy theorists. https://t.co/pYLRBPuIuU

— Katherine Clark (@RepKClark) July 21, 2021

A reminder that McCarthy and the GOP rejected a Jan 6th commission in which they would have had equal participation. https://t.co/QU5lXqXwms

— Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (@RepBonnie) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:00:56pm

Kevin McCarthy’s press conference is not going well as he may have gotten himself called to testify before the 1/6 Committee. pic.twitter.com/Kxskx4oSZZ

— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) July 21, 2021

Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 12:05:59pm

.@SenatorCollins says 11 GOP senators sending a letter to @SenSchumer now saying they will vote for cloture on Monday if there’s a bipartisan infrastructure agreement

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Dangerman Jul 21, 2021 • 12:07:37pm

it was the power supply!

got a new one overnight from amazon but it was too late last night

swapped it this morning, plugged the machine in and the fans started.
but it wouldnt boot (windows 7). no beep no nothing.
!$#^@$*%#^*@$&@% - did i have two coincidental, simultaneous problems?

reswapped the bad psu just in case - nope. dead. so swapped back.

google, google, google. a bunch of stuff it couldnt (likely) be.
reset rams? yeah sure.

how about pull the button battery on the motherboard.
damned if that didnt do it.
i’ve been running 5 hours without a hiccup.

- restoring win 7 to a new machine would have been…problematic?
- plus restoring an entire windows system expecting it to work just fine is, well somewhat naive.
- i more or less refuse to upgrade to win 8 or 10, or now 11, or be beholden to someone telling me what i have to use to get my work done
- then it occurred to me - it was our tax program that kept me married to windows. and they stopped supporting win 7 2 years ago. i’ve had it running on a separate laptop i pull out when i need to prepare a return.
- i have (almost) nothing else that’s windows specific and a lot is open source.
- almost all the data is (safely) stored in the cloud.
- i’ve wanted to switch to linux for probably 10 years.
with no system images to deal with, backup and disaster recovery should be much easier to manage (he said).

Now i will.
i have a plan.
it’ll take probably a month or two all told.

off we go on another adventure

lawhawk Jul 21, 2021 • 12:10:36pm

Quelle surprise.

McCarthy thought he could stick a bunch of treasonweasel enablers on the Commission to grandstand and deflect attention from GOP complicity on 1/6. Instead, Pelosi will add her own selections to fill out the Commission.

The GOP are insurrectionist enablers, insurrectionist adjacent, and complicit in the coverup of Trump crimes. They’ve put that complicity on display every day before and since 1/6.

It’s baked into everything the GOP does. They don’t care about the nation, only how the GOP billionaire backers can benefit.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 12:12:23pm

re: #199 JOE 🥓

Utah Outcasts vs. Eric Metaxas

NSFW

“Tweezers, dildos, couches.”

That’s the content I donate to. (::

Charles Johnson Jul 21, 2021 • 12:12:31pm

This. But they won’t.

Every news account on the current battle over the 1/6 committee should state clearly and unequivocally that Kevin McCarthy’s original choice of Jim Banks and Jim Jordan itself constituted deliberate sabotage of a full accounting, as *their own* public statements make inescapable.

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) July 21, 2021

lawhawk Jul 21, 2021 • 12:14:05pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

You don’t let the arsonists investigate the fires they started.

GOPers like Jordan and the treasonweasel caucus incited an armed insurrection to overthrow the govt and storm the Capitol.

People like Jordan are called to testify under oath, not ask the questions to deflect attn

— lawhawk #vaxxingforafriend (@lawhawk) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:14:19pm

boofuckinhoo

Everyone knows @SpeakerPelosi is a lame duck speaker!

— Jim Banks (@RepJimBanks) July 21, 2021

Charles Johnson Jul 21, 2021 • 12:15:08pm

Yes, every news account 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 make that context very clear, but judging by past performance, very few will. https://t.co/5QVyNtUvGv

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:15:27pm

Having served as an #ImpeachmentManager and personally witnessing the #Insurrection, what @SpeakerPelosi did today by rejecting the “Jims” is the correct decision and is NOT about politics. Congress MUST seek the TRUTH so that situation NEVER happens again.

— Rep. Stacey Plaskett (@StaceyPlaskett) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:16:20pm

🧐

Is this an example of that “cancel culture” thing all the kids keep talking about?

🤔🤔 https://t.co/fZ3TXHva1G

— Stephen White (@sgw94) July 21, 2021

lawhawk Jul 21, 2021 • 12:19:20pm

Cheney: She’s objected to two members and the rhetoric around this from the minority leader and from those two members has been disgraceful pic.twitter.com/CODWqeO8W7

— Acyn (@Acyn) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:19:57pm

LOL, that’s not how any of this works Mr I’ll Defend Myself:

Prosecutor tells court, “There has not been a plea offer, but I’m happy to start that process”Alam interjects, “consider it requested now!”

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) July 21, 2021

Alam returns to jail. Til next hearing later this summer

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) July 21, 2021

Charles Johnson Jul 21, 2021 • 12:20:30pm

Please don’t make me approve of Liz Cheney.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:21:35pm

I hope you used the baby powder too Kev, he likes it. @GOPLeader

— NoelCaslerComedy (@CaslerNoel) July 21, 2021

darthstar Jul 21, 2021 • 12:22:06pm

Nancy Pelosi ran out of fucks to give years ago.

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Please don’t make me approve of Liz Cheney.

Yeah, she just said McCarthy doesn’t respect the constitution and shouldn’t be 3rd in line for the presidency.

Punish Domestic Terrorists Jul 21, 2021 • 12:23:02pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

boofuckinhoo

Right-wing derpsters believe that “everyone knows” a lot of insane things, because they don’t associate with people who are not keen for fascism, and care about facts.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:25:52pm

meanwhile in Louisiana

“If this was a real problem, we would have addressed this issue years ago.” - @RoyceDuplessis

No one is aware of any transgender women and girls participating in women’s and and girls’ sports in Louisiana. #lalege #lagov

— Julie O’Donoghue (@JSODonoghue) July 21, 2021

Again, the trans athlete ban veto override FAILED to pass. So it appears @LouisianaGov’s vote stands. Two swing voters — Independent Rep. Adams and Democratic Rep. Travis Johnson voted against. The only got 68 votes for the override. Two votes short. #lalege #lagov

— Julie O’Donoghue (@JSODonoghue) July 21, 2021

Louisiana Senate had already voted to override the governor’s veto
House failed to override
the ban on transgender women/girls in sports is dead.

No Malarkey! Jul 21, 2021 • 12:28:56pm

re: #42 Citizen K

I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’s absolutely the right move for Pelosi, and I applaud her for that. I just know that the media is working extremely hard to sell the GOP narrative above all others yet again, and making it seem like no matter what Pelosi did, the GOP would get to set the frames anyway. Precious little she or the Dems can really do about that, especially when the media seems to double down out of spite if/when Dems do complain about things.

I like that the GQP will be side lined, while only people who care about uncovering the truth of January 6 will be participating in the hearings. The GQP will be silenced, until they get to screech on Fox News.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:32:16pm

KY Attorney General Daniel Cameron announces Kentucky will get a more than $460 million settlement from Johnson & Johnson and other opioid distributors. It’s part of a $26 billion settlement with several states

— Ryland Barton (@RylandKY) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:32:53pm

Back in May, McCarthy rejected a proposed commission that would give both parties equal representation in appointees to the commission and require bipartisan agreement for subpoenas. https://t.co/j4vbPcPYd7 https://t.co/VL2cVw8eVg

— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) July 21, 2021

No Malarkey! Jul 21, 2021 • 12:33:35pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Please don’t make me approve of Liz Cheney.

Just remember that the only issue she is right on is opposing fascist coups.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:35:21pm

picture from a covid icu at cox health in springfield mo.https://t.co/adoUtcuRPM

local hospitals and county health department last week asked the state to set up an alternative care site, since hospitals are at capacity.

still no response from republican governor mike parson. pic.twitter.com/BAxMsgwZXx

— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) July 21, 2021

Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Jul 21, 2021 • 12:36:08pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Louisiana

Louisiana Senate had already voted to override the governor’s veto
House failed to override
the ban on transgender women/girls in sports is dead.

YES! Next up is the Federal Court case against Arkansas’s draconian trans heath care ban.

No Malarkey! Jul 21, 2021 • 12:37:36pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile, Twitter allows truthers to post that the vaccines don’t work, they are deadly, masks are useless, and Covid is just like the flu.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:38:11pm

This distinction is important. FARA focuses on failure to register as an agent. Section 951, with which Barrack was charged, prohibits acting under the direction and control of a foreign government, a far more serious crime, which is used against foreign spies. https://t.co/mCef7YCib0

— Barb McQuade (@BarbMcQuade) July 21, 2021

lawhawk Jul 21, 2021 • 12:39:00pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Note that this isn’t a photo of an actual ICU, but a converted space within a hospital. It’s an expanded temporary covid19 ward. We can say that with 100% certainty, because of the temporary lighting and room dividers and the plastic sheeting in the background.

JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 12:39:45pm

Oh no he didn’t

OH YES HE DID!!!!!

GOP city council member in Alabama says “do we have a house n****r in here?” to a Black woman on the council. This racist scum Tommy Bryant needs to resign and Veronica Freeman deserves an apology.pic.twitter.com/V3NEaZIUks

— Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) July 21, 2021

Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 12:43:09pm

Alex Berenson is a POS driver of misinformation.

So you can say whatever you like on @facebook, doesn’t make it true. Especially if you go easy on details. Here’s something true: in ALL of Israel, population ~9 million, SEVEN people under 40 have been hospitalized with severe Covid in the last two weeks. https://t.co/d8o24HGUKD

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) July 21, 2021

Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Jul 21, 2021 • 12:43:16pm

Update on my earlier rant down thread. UPS now says my order is out for delivery.

Punish Domestic Terrorists Jul 21, 2021 • 12:43:52pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

🙄He’s not angry. He’s performing.

— Deena Heg (@bikesalsa) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:45:28pm

Just asked Cheney if McCarthy deserves to be speaker. Cheney: “I think that any person who would be third in line to the presidency must demonstrate a commitment to the Constitution and a commitment to the rule of law — and Minority Leader McCarthy has not done that.” pic.twitter.com/PXYp9chrKo

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) July 21, 2021

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:47:08pm

re: #70 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

YES! Next up is the Federal Court case against Arkansas’s draconian trans heath care ban.

BREAKING: Arkansas’s trans health ban has been BLOCKED by the court. We won’t rest until this cruel and unconstitutional law has been struck down for good. #Arnews pic.twitter.com/kNXsWvD9Pw

— ACLU of Arkansas (@ArkansasACLU) July 21, 2021

piratedan Jul 21, 2021 • 12:47:44pm

re: #75 Barefoot Grin

last I looked, Alabama wasn’t Israel and IIRC, the vaccination numbers in Israel far outpace Alabama as well… so in short, Alex really doesn’t have a helluva lot to add here other than he’s an ignorant POS.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 12:47:59pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Finding Plaintiffs likely to succeed on all claims. And finding trans status triggers heightened scrutiny.

— Chase Strangio (@chasestrangio) July 21, 2021

A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 12:49:22pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is good, I just hope the money really does go to help with therapy and recovery, decent housing and job training or education. Ohio, where I am from, has also been hit hard, especially in SE counties. My daughter and grandkids live in the middle of that mess. My daughter’s dad is a fucking drug dealer, he and his remaining brothers(two died from overdoses) have sold drugs in Hocking county since the 80s and the cops have turned a blind eye to it. The towns of Logan, Sugar Grove and Nelsonville are just a sad skeleton of what they once were. It’s awful there. I just found out my daughter has a serious opioid problem which explains why she couldn’t stay with us for more than 4 months before taking the kids and leaving to go back to that mess. She’s also had another baby, for a grand total of 5 kids. Grandkids I am not allowed to see because she’s basically been trained to hate me. I’m only a little bit pissed and bitter over that.

Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 12:50:49pm

re: #80 piratedan

last I looked, Alabama wasn’t Israel and IIRC, the vaccination numbers in Israel far outpace Alabama as well… so in short, Alex really doesn’t have a helluva lot to add here other than he’s an ignorant POS.

Yep, and the fantasists in his TL clearly didn’t read the article.

Dave In Austin Jul 21, 2021 • 12:55:42pm

Catholic Monsignor Who Wanted to Deny Biden Communion Resigns,… After Cellphone Links Him to Gay Dating App Grindrhttps://t.co/WhwRx6XSx0

— Roshan Rinaldi (@Roshan_Rinaldi) July 21, 2021

Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Jul 21, 2021 • 12:56:38pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks. I missed that announcement. I expected it to be blocked because it was so discriminatory, but not this fast.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 1:01:38pm

This is the condition my wife has, which she is promoting to others to explain it (since a large number of people don’t seem to get it, and the shortcut “lazy eye” doesn’t accurately describe it, but a lot of people love dunking on people with it).

New York Times Opinion on YouTube (12:12)

I Have a Visual Disability, And I Want You To Look Me In the Eye | NYT Opinion

A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 1:02:39pm

re: #85 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

This crap has always been a solution in search of a problem. To make people angry and scared and to hate on the schools. To make the kids hate on their fellow students. I mean heaven forbid a boy have long hair or a girl short hair or not dress to some arbitrary standard. Transgender kids need support and protection, not this shit. It’s 2021 FFS, it’s time to focus on what is truly important so we can survive as a species.

Citizen K Jul 21, 2021 • 1:05:40pm

re: #87 A Mom Anon

This crap has always been a solution in search of a problem. To make people angry and scared and to hate on the schools. To make the kids hate on their fellow students. I mean heaven forbid a boy have long hair or a girl short hair or not dress to some arbitrary standard. Transgender kids need support and protection, not this shit. It’s 2021 FFS, it’s time to focus on what is truly important so we can survive as a species.

That’s hard when you have so many in our society wanting to arbitrarily treat vast segments of their fellow humans as completely separate species in order to lord superiority over them.

The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 1:05:44pm

My congress representative:

.@SpeakerPelosi made the right decision. She’s putting our democracy first, as she always does. We’re not going to be lectured by the Minority Leader about playing politics after he and 174 House Republicans voted against the bipartisan, independent January 6th Commission in May. https://t.co/4vOlLEt3Wq

— Brenda Lawrence (@RepLawrence) July 21, 2021

retired cynic Jul 21, 2021 • 1:08:19pm

Merrick Garland Will Not Deliver Your Catharsis
Progressives want a dramatic de-Trumpification of the Justice Department. But the attorney general has a different theory of how to heal America.
washingtonpost.com

Garland stands as a kind of radical institutionalist, a stickler for regular order, a true believer in the norms and processes put in place after Watergate that weathered nearly every storm until Trump.

Helps to understand, I think. I hope.

ckkatz Jul 21, 2021 • 1:09:30pm

The earlier comments on package (mis)delivery brought up some amusing memories for me.

First one is that the block indicator for my street number is ‘5’. For some reason, there are several commercial delivery folks that read ‘6’ (indicating next block down) as ‘5’. The most recent one for the ‘6’ block, had the street number written several times in heavy magic marker. (And correctly, with the ‘6’ included.) And they still delivered the package to me.

My solution, the first time it happened, was to attach a note to the package with my name and email address, explaining what had happened. That way, if they are worried about a package they can contact me and I will check my front porch. If I find something for them, I shoot them an email and then walk it down and drop it off on their porch. (Which happens every couple of weeks.) I did the same with the previous folks who lived there as well.

Years ago, a USPS letter carrier would deliver my mail to a family on a different street that had the same street number. And I would get their mail. We used to just walk it over to the correct address. It got so we were sending each other Christmas cards. However, that letter carrier is probably long since retired.

ckkatz Jul 21, 2021 • 1:12:32pm

re: #88 Citizen K

That’s hard when you have so many in our society wanting to arbitrarily treat vast segments of their fellow humans as completely separate species in order to lord superiority over them.

“You’ve Got To Be Carefully Taught” - SOUTH PACIFIC (1958)

The Ghost of a Flea Jul 21, 2021 • 1:12:52pm

re: #88 Citizen K

That’s hard when you have so many in our society wanting to arbitrarily treat vast segments of their fellow humans as completely separate species in order to lord superiority over them.

Emphasis on arbitrary.

They’re transphobes, but transphobia is also a gateway to inhibiting free social expression in general. It’s not going to be just about clocking actual trans persons, it’s going to be…what can you get away with, who can you control and degrade by wrapping it up in a concern about trans-ness. Much like the Satanic panic or the panic about Islam, the bailey justifies the motte: to target “the real problem” requires an entire pseudointellectual factory process inventing precursor signs and “symptoms” that have to be policed as well.

Charles Johnson Jul 21, 2021 • 1:13:02pm

𝗚𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱 from Derek. Tracks closely with my own experience. https://t.co/4xBpXIug1z

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 21, 2021

Citizen K Jul 21, 2021 • 1:13:36pm

Tired: Manufacturing consent
Wired: Manufacturing amnesia

— Christopher Ingraham (@_cingraham) July 21, 2021

The reporters explicitly adopt the Republicans’ performative outrage as their own: “stunned,” “all but guaranteed to spark a Republican boycott,” “shockwaves.” pic.twitter.com/y1uVPYq2BS

— Christopher Ingraham (@_cingraham) July 21, 2021

JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 1:14:31pm

Hold up. The CEO of @telegram lives in the UAE??
Holy fuck.https://t.co/3W3P4VDRym pic.twitter.com/i0LYZxgKlR

— Jim Stewartson, QAnon Eliminator, #RIPQ 🇺🇸🏴‍☠️ (@jimstewartson) July 21, 2021

Citizen K Jul 21, 2021 • 1:16:07pm

re: #93 The Ghost of a Flea

Emphasis on arbitrary.

They’re transphobes, but transphobia is also a gateway to inhibiting free social expression in general. It’s not going to be just about clocking actual trans persons, it’s going to be…what can you get away with, who can you control and degrdde by wrapping it up in a concern about trans-ness. Much like the Satanic panic or the panic about Islam, the bailey justifies the motte: to target “the real problem” requires an entire pseudointellectual factory process inventing precursor signs and “symptoms” that have to be policed as well.

It’s so much of the same battles that were fought before too. It’s almost a straight line connection to gay panics of years before, which have almost always been about enforcement of rigid ideas of masculinity and femininity and the lionizing of the former, demonization of the latter.

Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 1:18:25pm

re: #33 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well something tells me that Madam Speaker will have NO qualms about sending the House Master At Arms to drag their dumb asses in. If they refuse, well contempt charges can be levied as well I believe.

They likely won’t have the President and DOJ on their side.

Punish Domestic Terrorists Jul 21, 2021 • 1:18:33pm

Republicans have been short-sighted greedy brittle fools for my whole lifetime, but they didn’t always nauseate me.

The Republicans signaled that they supported and want to just move past the attempted coup by nominating crackpots. They tried to put a creep who looked the other way while kids were molested on the committee! There is no bottom for this failed party.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) July 21, 2021

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 1:28:30pm

A tropical wave has formed over the central Alabama/Mississippi line and is starting to wrap up into a potential tropical depression. It is expected to move east and south into the warm waters of the Atlantic off central Florida. NHC gives the tropical wave a 20% chance of developing into a tropical depression.

Atlantic Basin Five-Day Graphical Outlook

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 1:32:44pm

re: #89 The Pie Overlord!

My congress representative:

My representative, Adrian Smith (I only represent Rs-NE3) is busy bitching at President Biden for “giving away” vaccines to other countries, saying that cannot lead to a healthier world.

Hey Rep. Smith, you were just in Gering the other day, where you were not promoting to people here to get vaccinated.

adriansmith.house.gov

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sagehen Jul 21, 2021 • 1:38:02pm

Maybe a little premature… but a very good ad nonetheless.

It’s Time for New York City

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 1:39:02pm

Dems: We want to do a bipartisan 1/6 Commission, you cool with that?

GOP: Fuck you, no.

Dems: Okay, fine. We’re gonna run our own investigation and, just to show we’re being fair, we’ll put a few of your guys on the committee.

GOP: Okay, take these guys.

Dems: Seriously? This is a joke, right?

GOP: No, you said we could have some of our people on the committee. These are the guys we want.

Dems: Fuck you, no.

Kevin McCarthy: “Pelosi has broken this institution.”

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Dave In Austin Jul 21, 2021 • 1:41:57pm

What’s something you can say at the yard center and during sex?

— Conceal Carry Vagina (@eurobikesnob) July 21, 2021

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 1:42:35pm

re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

Dems: We want to do a partisan 1/6 Commission, you cool with that?

GOP: Fuck you, no.

Dems: Please join us!. We’ll give you the right to block nearly everything we want to do.

(and the rest of yours)

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Mike Lamb Jul 21, 2021 • 1:44:40pm

re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

Dems: We want to do a partisan 1/6 Commission, you cool with that?

GOP: Fuck you, no.

Dems: Okay, fine. We’re gonna run our own investigation and, just to show we’re being fair, we’ll put a few of your guys on the committee.

GOP: Okay, take these guys.

Dems: Seriously? This is a joke, right?

GOP: No, you said we could have some of our people on the committee. These are the guys we want.

Dems: Fuck you, no.

Kevin McCarthy: “Pelosi has broken this institution.”

Actually, you left our the part where they negotiated and agreed to the bipartisan framework of the 1/6 Commission, then backed out.

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A Three Hour Tour Jul 21, 2021 • 1:45:54pm

re: #105 Belafon

Dems: We want to do a partisan 1/6 Commission, you cool with that?

GOP: Fuck you, no.

Dems: Please join us!. We’ll give you the right to block nearly everything we want to do.

(and the rest of yours)

Dems: We want to do a BIPARTISAN 1/6 commission, not a partisan one.

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A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 1:51:20pm

So I wonder what the country, the world is going to look like in three or four months with all these new covid variants popping up? How long before airlines have to shut down or operate at limited capacity? Restaurants and music venues? People laid off and having that whole cycle start again?

I’m frustrated because none of this had to happen. I’m also scared. The Husband had a doctors appointment today and he was told that even though he’s fully vaccinated, a breakthrough infection could put him in danger of not just getting a little sick, but ending up on oxygen in an ER or worse. And I just found out he hasn’t been masking up all the time he’s gone out either since he’s been vaccinated. After today I seriously hope he wises up. We’ve been lucky so far, but our luck isn’t that fabulous. I have all this anger at this shit and nowhere to go with it. Fuck.

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The Ghost of a Flea Jul 21, 2021 • 1:54:18pm

re: #97 Citizen K

It’s so much of the same battles that were fought before too. It’s almost a straight line connection to gay panics of years before, which have almost always been about enforcement of rigid ideas of masculinity and femininity and the lionizing of the former, demonization of the latter.

See, I’d argue that it’s more nihilistic than that. The rhythm is always the same because there are two objectives that always remain the same: first, deny that the status quo can create negative outcomes by blaming problems on outliers and weirdos; second, ride that moral panic to obtain as much license as possible and abuse power more comprehensively than before. Clearly defining the problem is actually a disadvantage to these two objectives; furthermore, if there’s a cultural sensitive point that tends to make people react strongly and emotionally with little consideration, ceding power and grating license because Thing Axiomatically Bad, there’s absolutely no reason to not add that thing into whatever the current moral panic is.

All the moral panics play with the same small set of concepts that have utility in triggering reactionary responses: dangers to kids, fear of “perversion,” uncleanness, disease…anything that triggers disgust and contempt is available to use…because the point is never to define a problem and solve it efficiently, it’s to create excuses and scapegoats.

This is why centrism and reactionaries periodically harmonize and create stuff like The War on Terror, or the Satanic Panic…the former want to be told that their world-system isn’t broken and unjust and will always let them down, and the latter will happily spin a story in which everything would be fine if it weren’t for a small number of malefactors that need to be pre-emptively sequestered and punished. This is the feedback loop that results in totalitarianism: a large group of people that just don’t want to think and a smaller group of people willing to supply cruel, simplistic fables that coddle the former.

The trans moral panic isn’t just a palette swap of gay panic, it’s also substantially made of the same substance as the CRT panic that’s also ongoing which is itself a palette swap of the Cultural Marxism panic, and the integration of schools panic, etc…and a notable feature of both is the deliberate overreach of the anti- legislation: the point isn’t just to “solve” the problem, it’s to control everything as much as possible.

And a big part of why I call this nihilistic is that the forces of reaction don’t actually value the moral order as they present it to their audience of rubes: they don’t want to protect kids or save the country in any kind of open, good-faith way, all of their words crawl with unstated caveats and exceptions that point towards an entire underworld of unvoiced wants—sadism and control-as-fetish—and always have. And the rubes don’t really want the problem solved either, they just want assurance that they’re not part of the problem.

The gay panic didn’t exist to eliminate gay people, but to corral them in a manner that made them vulnerable while allowing the majority of society to feel no responsibility or empathy. The Satanic Panic was just an ever-expanding mire of weirdos—hippies, free love types, drug users, D&D nerds, heavy metal fans, New Agers—that permitted American Christians to feel morally impeccable because their venality and prurience weren’t as bad as sacrificing babies on an altar.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 1:55:06pm

re: #74 JOE 🥓

He’s a Democrat! Wowzers.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 1:56:38pm

re: #107 A Three Hour Tour

Dems: We want to do a BIPARTISAN 1/6 commission, not a partisan one.

That’s why I get for not rereading lol. Updated.

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 1:57:55pm

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

He’s a Democrat! Wowzers.

I bet it’s been a while since he voted for a Democrat at the state or national level.

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 1:58:12pm

Why oh why do people I admire sometimes turn out to be fucking assholes?

Eric Clapton said he would cancel any shows if the venue requires attendees prove they are vaccinated against Covid-19. https://t.co/ByUi9lLG2V

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) July 21, 2021

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 2:00:06pm

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

Why oh why do people I admire sometimes turn out to be fucking assholes?

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Is he touring with Van Morrison?

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EstebanTornado1963 Jul 21, 2021 • 2:04:10pm

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

Why oh why do people I admire sometimes turn out to be fucking assholes?

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He’s been a racist asshole for decades

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Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 2:04:21pm

Dear Savvy Political Journalist Twitter:

Even by cynical nihilist standards, McCarthy mis-played this.

The cycnical, nihilist move would have been to keep appointing crazier and crazier Republicans, forcing additional Pelosi vetoes, and THEN pull the plug.

— Wyeth Ruthven (@wyethwire) July 21, 2021

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 2:04:31pm

re: #49 Dangerman

Been there, done that. Whenever I face a dead system, its swap out the power Supply and pop the CMOS battery. What gets frustrating is when the system crashes during a boot and you Get a nonspecific blue screen courtesy of Microsoft.

At least my Ryzen 7 2700 is coming on Friday…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Jul 21, 2021 • 2:08:29pm

You’re inverting reality. Malice is not a principle.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) July 21, 2021

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 2:11:14pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Almost like the book/movie “Being There”.

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Dread Pirate Ron Jul 21, 2021 • 2:12:41pm

What about the rest of our bodies? And yet we wear clothes, hats and shoes.https://t.co/OQIQQ87jQC

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) July 21, 2021

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 2:15:50pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

Like McConnell would have done.

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 2:16:36pm

re: #120 Dread Pirate Ron

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God’s just a giant head.

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Teukka Jul 21, 2021 • 2:19:58pm

re: #120 Dread Pirate Ron

Giphy

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 2:20:02pm

re: #122 Belafon

God’s just a giant head.

And if you wear a mask God won’t recognize you and might eat you.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jul 21, 2021 • 2:21:38pm

re: #122 Belafon

God’s just a giant head.

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Teukka Jul 21, 2021 • 2:21:49pm

re: #120 Dread Pirate Ron

This is me when I read this. To fully appreciate my reaction, know that I am a Catholic since birth… pic.twitter.com/hV3vtQ6dv2

— 🤬🌡↔️🧼😷 Teo 😷🧼↔️🌡🤬 (@Teukka72) July 21, 2021

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 2:22:23pm

Mask mandates violate religious liberty by hiding faces made in God’s image, Catholic school says https://t.co/BFPcFNltcM

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 21, 2021

The lengths that some people will go to to DELIBERATELY put themselves at higher risk of serious consequences is astounding to me.

See also: “owning the Libs.”

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The Ghost of a Flea Jul 21, 2021 • 2:22:53pm

re: #122 Belafon

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 2:23:08pm

re: #125 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This is why I love this place. No pop culture reference goes unnoticed. :)

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Charles Johnson Jul 21, 2021 • 2:25:27pm

Dammit. Got THREE new Adsense policy violations this morning, requested review on all three without “fixing” anything and they just removed them. Really getting sick of wasting time jumping through their pointless hoops.

131

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 21, 2021 • 2:27:44pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

NEW: Pres. Biden will welcome Ukrainian Pres. Volodymyr Zelenskyy to the White House next month to affirm “unwavering support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russia’s ongoing aggression.

But only in exchange for them calling off their pending investigation of Hunter,right?

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 2:28:51pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Do you make enough from Adsense to make it worth fighting all these bullshit strikes?

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Charles Johnson Jul 21, 2021 • 2:30:08pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

Asking myself the same question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 21, 2021 • 2:30:24pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

AG Yost today announced a historic $26 billion nationwide agreement with the three largest distributors of opioids and Johnson & Johnson for their roles in the far-reaching and devastating opioid epidemic.

I mentioned earlier that my ex-GF’s cousin, a pain management doctor in Texas, bought himself a new 14,000 sq ft. house a few years back.

And now we can see where that money came from.

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Dave In Austin Jul 21, 2021 • 2:30:27pm

Once a dick, always a dick. https://t.co/WdlN90tgi1 pic.twitter.com/BQs97vYGia

— Valerie Bertinelli (@Wolfiesmom) July 21, 2021

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 2:31:57pm

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I always said to myself that if I ever became very wealthy I would NOT by myself a big ass house because I just don’t need that much house.

Now I might buy a decent sized PROPERTY. I just don’t need a 28 room mansion on it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 2:32:58pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Really getting sick of wasting time jumping through their pointless hoops.

Goes to show you that AI will never replace humans.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jul 21, 2021 • 2:33:48pm

On twitter I see colleges are trending… check it out and it seems the minor-league professional sports ball franchises (who pretend to be amateur sports) are thinking of re-doing the conferences again (most for football.)

What a waste.

And fans are trying to come up with scenarios for the big 4 conferences, moving teams hither and yon, without regard for geography.

Because of course Iowa State should be in the same league as USC, and West Virginia in the same league as Colorado, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 21, 2021 • 2:34:50pm

re: #104 Dave In Austin

What’s something you can say at the yard center and during sex?

We really need to trim these verges!

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Dave In Austin Jul 21, 2021 • 2:36:04pm

re: #135 Dave In Austin

Thru this thread there seems to be an underlying story about Eddie Van Halen and Eric Clapton.
Any ideas?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jul 21, 2021 • 2:36:17pm

The thing that is driving this mess if of course television rights.

Oklahoma and Texas want to be in the SEC because those southerners really love their football. If they join then the SEC will have 16 teams… which means half the teams won’t play the other half in a given year.

The television money drives the idea that there should be only a few big conferences, with the major sports schools.

It’s a multibillion dollar industry.

But it’s “amateur” sports.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 2:36:43pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really get sick of liberals bashing people who didn’t go to college. Gov. Parsons isn’t a shytehead because of a high school diploma, he’s a shytehead because he’s a conservative religious nut.

This is what happens when you have a governor with a high school diploma🤷🏽‍♀️

— Rhonda Cross (@RCToy) July 21, 2021

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(((Archangel1))) Jul 21, 2021 • 2:38:18pm

Cry harder, treason weasel. #CryBabyKevin pic.twitter.com/OJwb2OhR3i

— Arch (Space Laser Vaccination Supervisor) (@Arch_LGF) July 21, 2021

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William Lewis Jul 21, 2021 • 2:38:32pm

In case anyone is interested, there is a small posting of touristy pictures from the weekend over in the pages.

a Tourist in Springfield, Il

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jul 21, 2021 • 2:38:45pm

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s a multibillion dollar industry.

But it’s “amateur” sports.

That is a totally sick conundrum that needs to be broken down and reassembled to fit the reality

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 2:43:51pm

these are the same ppl who believe fat shaming causes people—esp fat women—to lose weight.

— E.L Jones (@HausCrashBurn) July 21, 2021

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 2:45:41pm

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Also, the majority of college football players are black. The majority of coaches, university and TV network heads are white.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 2:47:07pm

re: #144 William Lewis

In case anyone is interested, there is a small posting of touristy pictures from the weekend over in the pages.

a Tourist in Springfield, Il

Nicely done. Very moving of the shackles. The Abraham Lincoln Museum, which I guess is not new any more, is a wonderful addition to the several sites we took non-local guests to when I lived in the area. Your other photos completed the story.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Jul 21, 2021 • 2:48:02pm

re: #143 (((Archangel1)))

The question is a blatant lie. You aren’t good at this. It’s all too obvious that you want to cover up a failed coup attempt.
This is what Republicans have devolved into as any sensible Republican was called a RINO and driven out. We’re left with seditious frauds like Kevin.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) July 21, 2021

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retired cynic Jul 21, 2021 • 2:48:35pm

re: #148 Barefoot Grin

This sounds funny, but I remember the multiple hole outhouse in the back yard of the Lincoln House. Did they really do group… um…?

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JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 2:50:33pm

re: #149 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Can’t wait to see you subpoenaed and sit 11+ hours before this committee on live TV and see you sweat!

— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) July 21, 2021

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JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 2:51:59pm

re: #150 retired cynic

This sounds funny, but I remember the multiple hole outhouse in the back yard of the Lincoln House. Did they really do group… um…?

Yes…and they didn’t have the Sears catalogue…Something Mom had when she was a little girl in South Carolina during the depression…Mom always reminded us of that…

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jaunte Jul 21, 2021 • 2:55:45pm

This is a quality headline https://t.co/KzQ8MAUEOi

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) July 21, 2021

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 2:56:53pm

re: #150 retired cynic

This sounds funny, but I remember the multiple hole outhouse in the back yard of the Lincoln House. Did they really do group… um…?

That was for the high-falutin’ folk! “Ohhhh, you have a four-holer do you…well whoopdie do.”

Or, Pre-Seinfeld:

“Excuse me, but could you spare a cob?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 2:57:27pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Really get sick of liberals bashing people who didn’t go to college. Gov. Parsons isn’t a shytehead because of a high school diploma, he’s a shytehead because he’s a conservative religious nut.

I also get sick of people who bash people who did go to college.

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jaunte Jul 21, 2021 • 2:58:05pm

re: #150 retired cynic

Very Roman.

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BlueSpotinAL Jul 21, 2021 • 2:58:06pm

LOL, McCarthy statement written before Nancy rejected some of his picks, refers to one not being rejected.

LMAO, McCarthy clearly pre-prepared this statement expecting that Pelosi would also veto Troy Nehls, and forgot to take out “and law enforcement” when she didn’t. https://t.co/q6Yw5WsvvF

— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) July 21, 2021

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 2:58:47pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also get sick of people who bash people who did go to college.

Yes!

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sagehen Jul 21, 2021 • 3:00:30pm

re: #136 Eclectic Cyborg

I always said to myself that if I ever became very wealthy I would NOT by myself a big ass house because I just don’t need that much house.

Now I might buy a decent sized PROPERTY. I just don’t need a 28 room mansion on it.

The amount of staff it would take to keep it clean… I don’t want that many people in my home.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 3:03:01pm

re: #156 jaunte

Very Roman.

Speaking of which, I highly recommend Garry Will’s Lincoln at Gettysburg: the Words that Remade America. He talks a lot about early Americans’ fetish with Roman oration, architecture, etc. as a context of the Gettysburg Address, the address by Everett before Lincoln, and how Lincoln’s speech reset expectations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 3:05:04pm

jeebus

“They give him easy questions like, ‘Ha, ha, ha, isn’t Rand Paul so out there?,’” Paul complained on Fox News. https://t.co/n0xMxNQUAz ^JC

— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) July 21, 2021

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I Would Prefer Not To Jul 21, 2021 • 3:06:10pm

Beau agrees with Nancy.

Let’s talk about Pelosi’s decision to veto Republican picks….

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sagehen Jul 21, 2021 • 3:09:03pm

re: #140 Dave In Austin

Thru this thread there seems to be an underlying story about Eddie Van Halen and Eric Clapton.
Any ideas?

There’s this. https://t.co/CNqCvSxP00

— wanderingadventurer (@wanderingadven4) July 21, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 3:09:14pm

Having conversations, experiencing fellowship, enjoying a meal. This is how we connect and learn of one another’s passion for faith and family and freedom and shared concerns about overreaching government. This is how we build new friendships which can HEAL Minnesota. 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/MYIwIzWlF9

— Scott Jensen (@drscottjensen) July 20, 2021

GOP candidate for governor, physician Scott Jensen speaking with anti-vaccine group founded by doctor charged in Jan. 6 Capitol attack https://t.co/5lw3upUUL5 via @mnreformer

— Minnesota Reformer (@MNReformer) July 20, 2021

O_o

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jaunte Jul 21, 2021 • 3:13:52pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

overreaching government

Flashing tax-evader message.

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teleskiguy Jul 21, 2021 • 3:15:17pm

Eric Clapton as a musician, well, as a guitarist myself I can’t help but admire the guy’s accomplishments. I mean, he’s Eric Clapton, synonymous with guitar playing greatness. We can quibble all we want about technique, his theft of American blues (and other rock star’s wives), etc. etc., you can’t deny what he’s done in his life.

He also said in public at one of his shows in England in the 70s that England was a white country and darker skinned people were not welcome and needed to leave. He was very explicit in his remarks, I don’t care how drunk he was. He’ll never live that down in my mind, he’s a racist bellend. His garbage covid stance is just more grist for the mill.

Both of these states of mind can exist at the same time, I assure you.

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Dopamine Fish Jul 21, 2021 • 3:16:04pm

re: #165 jaunte

Flashing tax-evader message.

This is the guy who was a big part of early COVID denial. Fuck him with a rusty chainsaw.

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Nojay UK Jul 21, 2021 • 3:18:15pm

re: #154 Barefoot Grin

That was for the high-falutin’ folk! “Ohhhh, you have a four-holer do you…well whoopdie do.”

Ha! Clydeside shipyard toilets were for the REAL men.

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:18:25pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Really get sick of liberals bashing people who didn’t go to college. Gov. Parsons isn’t a shytehead because of a high school diploma, he’s a shytehead because he’s a conservative religious nut.

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I want my governor to have a degree in government administration (yes, I made that up, I think).

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:20:06pm

re: #150 retired cynic

This sounds funny, but I remember the multiple hole outhouse in the back yard of the Lincoln House. Did they really do group… um…?

The Roman public restrooms were a bunch of holes with seats lined up next to each other with no walls.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David Jul 21, 2021 • 3:20:21pm

re: #122 Belafon

God’s just a giant head.

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:21:09pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Paul can’t see very well.

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Dangerman Jul 21, 2021 • 3:21:33pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

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The lengths that some people will go to to DELIBERATELY put ~~themselves~~ other people at higher risk of serious consequences is astounding to me.

See also: “owning the Libs.”

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 3:22:01pm

re: #162 I Would Prefer Not To

Beau agrees with Nancy.

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Video

Seems a little more amped than usual. He’s clearly pissed about the GOP response to 1/6.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 3:22:30pm

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

He’s a Democrat! Wowzers.

Tommy Bryant is a Republican

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TedStriker Jul 21, 2021 • 3:23:56pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

Eric Clapton as a musician, well, as a guitarist myself I can’t help but admire the guy’s accomplishments. I mean, he’s Eric Clapton, synonymous with guitar playing greatness. We can quibble all we want about technique, his theft of American blues (and other rock star’s wives), etc. etc., you can’t deny what he’s done in his life.

He also said in public at one of his shows in England in the 70s that England was a white country and darker skinned people were not welcome and needed to leave. He was very explicit in his remarks, I don’t care how drunk he was. He’ll never live that down in my mind, he’s a racist bellend. His garbage covid stance is just more grist for the mill.

Both of these states of mind can exist at the same time, I assure you.

Some people, for various shitty reasons, can make it real hard to separate the art from the artist (also see: Kevin Spacey, William Shatner, and on and on)

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EstebanTornado1963 Jul 21, 2021 • 3:24:38pm

re: #143 (((Archangel1)))

See this fucker is already counting on the @gop not honoring the vote and the legislatures installing their own winners

— EstebanTornado1963 (@ETornado1963) July 21, 2021

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teleskiguy Jul 21, 2021 • 3:24:51pm

re: #176 TedStriker

Some people, for various shitty reasons, can make it real hard to separate the art from the artist (also see: Kevin Spacey, William Shatner, and on and on)

Yes. Louis C.K.

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Dangerman Jul 21, 2021 • 3:25:41pm

re: #143 (((Archangel1)))

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offs
trump was a lame duck
every 2nd term president is a lame duck
in a sense the entire scotus are lame ducks

and finally. maybe she is. and maybe she isnt.. (yes i know what she said)

this is asinine (what do i expect?)

House Democrats must answer this question: “Why are you allowing a lame-duck Speaker to destroy this institution?”

This is the People’s House, not Pelosi’s House. https://t.co/NweMZRJ0MR

— Kevin McCarthy (@GOPLeader) July 21, 2021

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 3:26:04pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

Dammit. Got THREE new Adsense policy violations this morning, requested review on all three without “fixing” anything and they just removed them. Really getting sick of wasting time jumping through their pointless hoops.

This is what happens when there is a mindless algorithm making decisions — they don’t want to/can’t afford to spend money on actual humans reviewing every posting. So they automate it and wait for any blowback.

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sagehen Jul 21, 2021 • 3:26:41pm

re: #169 Belafon

I want my governor to have a degree in government administration (yes, I made that up, I think).

It is a real thing.

Harvard has an entire grad school (Harvard Kennedy school of government) that offers a 2-year master’s program in public policy.

NYC even has a High School for Law and Public Service, it’s part of the same magnet schools system that does Bronx Science and High School for the Performing Arts (the Fame school)

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Dangerman Jul 21, 2021 • 3:27:08pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also get sick of people who bash people who did go to college.

it’s not the level of education that matters
it’s how you use what education you got

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sagehen Jul 21, 2021 • 3:28:11pm

re: #178 teleskiguy

Yes. Louis C.K.

Bill Cosby. Woody Allen.

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TedStriker Jul 21, 2021 • 3:29:02pm

re: #169 Belafon

I want my governor to have a degree in government administration (yes, I made that up, I think).

No, you didn’t make it up, just gave it the wrong name; it’s “public administration”.

For example, here’s TSU’s master’s program in public administration: tnstate.edu

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TedStriker Jul 21, 2021 • 3:30:12pm

re: #183 sagehen

Bill Cosby. Woody Allen.

Roman Polanski.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 3:31:51pm

re: #170 Belafon

The Roman public restrooms were a bunch of holes with seats lined up next to each other with no walls.

and they led to the kitchens…

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 3:32:09pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Really get sick of liberals bashing people who didn’t go to college. Gov. Parsons isn’t a shytehead because of a high school diploma, he’s a shytehead because he’s a conservative religious nut.

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MTG has a college degree. As does Trump. And many have advanced degrees: Paul Gosar, Rand Paul, Ron DeSantis, and Greg Abbott. These people are all despicable — and most aren’t even particularly religious.

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jaunte Jul 21, 2021 • 3:32:28pm

By nixing Banks/Jordan, Pelosi exposed a stark realty: “It is no longer possible to proceed normally” with a GOP for whom “fairly counted elections are a hindrance and outright lies are an accepted currency of politics.”

Great @EJDionne, via @PostOpinions https://t.co/kHwlsxeXsR

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) July 21, 2021

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JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 3:34:59pm

re: #171 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

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Gee, I thought The Big G was just a mass of plasma…

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teleskiguy Jul 21, 2021 • 3:35:18pm

Unvaccinated nursing home staff are killing the residents.

CDC investigates coronavirus deaths in immunized patients in nursing homes across the US | Hartford Courant

WASHINGTON — Lagging vaccination rates among nursing home staff are being linked to a national increase in COVID-19 infections and deaths at senior facilities in July, and are at the center of a federal investigation in a hard-hit Colorado location where disease detectives found many workers were not inoculated.

The investigation by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention of facilities in the Grand Junction, Colorado, area raises concerns among public health doctors that successes in protecting vulnerable elders with vaccines could be in peril as the more aggressive delta variant spreads across the country.

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A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:35:34pm

re: #182 Dangerman

I just want people in government who actually understand our system of governance. I could give a shit about their degree. How many Republicans are there with law degrees who haven’t a clue? I personally think you should, at the very least have to pass a college level civics and history exam to run for office. There are too many completely “well educated” people in public office that are completely ignorant of even basic civics.

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JOE 🥓 Jul 21, 2021 • 3:37:28pm

re: #191 A Mom Anon

I just want people o government who actually understand our system of governance. I could give a shit about their degree. How many Republicans are there with law degrees who haven’t a clue? I personally think you should, at the very least have to pass a college level civics and history exam to run for office. There are too many completely “well educated” people in public office that are completely ignorant of even basic civics.

Memories of Mom growing up in South Carolina very angry that people of color were denied the right to vote because they flunked the state’s literacy test…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 3:38:19pm

re: #150 retired cynic

This sounds funny, but I remember the multiple hole outhouse in the back yard of the Lincoln House. Did they really do group… um…?

My grandparents had a dualie outhouse until we got indoor plumbing in the late Sixties.

My great-grandmother had a triple threat outhouse on her farm. It was still there the last time I visited her in 1992.

My guess is people weren’t quite as squicky about it then.

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KGxvi Jul 21, 2021 • 3:39:14pm

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“…and then go fuck off over there, a few steps farther back, there, to your left, yes, now fuck off there, too…”

Nah, more of a:

“Hey, Kev, my dad wanted to know if you wanted to go hunting with him this weekend?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 3:40:42pm

re: #169 Belafon

I want my governor to have a degree in government administration (yes, I made that up, I think).

Who needs public administration when you have billions of dollars like my governor?

I don’t care quite as much about the college credentials of a government official as much as I care that they listen to people who know what they’re doing (for example, I don’t believe any governor is a medical doctor, but a whole bunch of them don’t listen to medical experts).

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KGxvi Jul 21, 2021 • 3:41:56pm

re: #150 retired cynic

This sounds funny, but I remember the multiple hole outhouse in the back yard of the Lincoln House. Did they really do group… um…?

Could be worse… could’ve been like the Romans.

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dell*nix Jul 21, 2021 • 3:43:11pm

re: #193 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I remember the WW II barracks from basic training in 1965. No privacy there or at tech school. At tech school the lack of stall dividers came in handy for one of the guys when he had to deal with a pitcher of 3.2 Coors.

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PhillyPretzel Jul 21, 2021 • 3:43:14pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It is better to have someone who understands government and how it works rather than having a political neophyte who is cutting his political teeth on the highest office in the land.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 3:44:55pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

Unvaccinated nursing home staff are killing the residents.

CDC investigates coronavirus deaths in immunized patients in nursing homes across the US | Hartford Courant

Isn’t Grand Junction in Rep. Bobert’s district? The part of Colorado which has the lowest vaccination rates because it’s a liberal hoax/no worse than the flu/will be gone by Easter/will magically disappear the day after the election?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 3:45:25pm

re: #182 Dangerman

it’s not the level of education that matters
it’s how you use what education you got

exactly.
however some people seem to think it’s ok to sneer about college educations at every opportunity whilst at the same time get all pissy every time the same thing happens to an eejit with a high school diploma or GED.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 3:45:26pm

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

It is better to have someone who understands government and how it works rather than having a political neophyte who is cutting his political teeth on the highest office in the land.

That’s why I didn’t run for Marshal of the Supreme Court. /s

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:47:31pm

re: #177 EstebanTornado1963

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I’m pretty sure that’s supposed to be based on the idea that she’s giving up the Speakership after the next election because of an agreement with far left Democrats.

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A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:47:53pm

re: #192 JOE 🥓

This isn’t about voting though. It’s about who we want to hand power to with our votes. I don’t think elected officials have any business running for office unless they have a decent level of knowledge to do the job. Not a degree necessarily, but just know what the hell they are doing. Any other job you apply for has a basic knowledge requirement, why not those we elected to run our government?

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 3:48:10pm

re: #202 Belafon

I’m pretty sure that’s supposed to be based on the idea that she’s giving up the Speakership after the next election because of an agreement with far left Democrats.

Either that or the GOP expects to gerrymander their way to House control again.

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teleskiguy Jul 21, 2021 • 3:48:57pm

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Isn’t Grand Junction in Rep. Bobert’s district? The part of Colorado which has the lowest vaccination rates because it’s a liberal hoax/no worse than the flu/will be gone by Easter/will magically disappear the day after the election?

Grand Junction is indeed in CO-3. In Mesa County. Lauren Boebert lives in Garfield County.

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TedStriker Jul 21, 2021 • 3:50:06pm

re: #183 sagehen

Bill Cosby. Woody Allen.

Speaking of Cosby, I grew up on The Cosby Show…I loved it, I loved Himself, but I can’t and won’t ever watch or listen to anything he’s done anymore because of the conniving, scheming rapist he turned out to be off-camera and off-stage that’s in such stark contrast to his well-crafted “America’s Dad” public persona.

When Phylicia Rashad tweeted in celebration of Cosby’s release from prison (that she later walked back for damage control when she was getting ratioed by hell and gone and dragged in the press for it, no doubt), I have to say that I was very disappointed in her and still am, to an extent.

However, I’ll give Rashad a bit of understanding on that tweet, for this one reason: Cosby was very methodical about pursuing his prey and, apparently, it seems that, in the case of the shows she did with him (including the later Cosby), Cosby didn’t “shit where he eat” and apparently didn’t target Rashad or his other then-castmates on those shows. Being friends and co-workers with Cosby over the course of almost forty years must have given Rashad a hell of a blind spot when all this started coming out, especially when it’s not, AFAIK, affecting her or people she knows directly. Even with all of the women that had been his prey over several decades all the way back to his college days coming out and all of the legal actions, she could have still been in denial about it all, because that’s not the Bill Cosby she knew…and that she didn’t want it to be true.

So, Rashad gets just this one…only this one.

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KGxvi Jul 21, 2021 • 3:50:15pm

re: #192 JOE 🥓

Memories of Mom growing up in South Carolina very angry that people of color were denied the right to vote because they flunked the state’s literacy test…

I remember seeing examples from some of those literacy tests, every question written in a way that no matter how you answered, your answer could be wrong (or right, depending on the color of your skin).

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Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 3:50:56pm

re: #135 Dave In Austin

I would love the back story of that photo. 😊

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 3:51:28pm

re: #182 Dangerman

it’s not the level of education that matters
it’s how you use what education you got

For public office, what matters is your character, temperament, and compassion and not your degree.

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Belafon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:53:21pm

Note the skin color of the dunces we’re talking about that don’t have a degree.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Jul 21, 2021 • 3:54:21pm

I like it when the ads are unintentionally amusing (even if only to me).

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Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 3:54:38pm

re: #206 TedStriker

I don’t understand why she just didn’t call him privately and celebrate his release that way. Why go public? She really doesn’t know how to read a room. Cosby’s legacy is toast — even with his former fans. I used to love the Cosby Show but like Seinfeld, it’s forever tainted and unwatchable now.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 3:55:01pm

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who needs public administration when you have billions of dollars like my governor?

I don’t care quite as much about the college credentials of a government official as much as I care that they listen to people who know what they’re doing (for example, I don’t believe any governor is a medical doctor, but a whole bunch of them don’t listen to medical experts).

Northam, governor of Virginia, is an MD — but since he’s also a Democrat, he listens to (and understands!) experts.

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A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 3:58:37pm

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

And the ability to see you don’t know everything without experience. My last job was a sales rep for a pet food company, the only job I have had since after my son was born. Before I got hired I had to take an aptitude test, a test regarding my knowledge of animal nutrition (related to dogs and cats), and a “personality test”. My son works in a warehouse, he had to take a personality test and a test before he could operate all the non drivable equipment in the warehouse. I don’t know why elected officials should get a pass on what many people have to do to get a job in many other places. A degree isn’t necessarily an indicator of the right skill sets for any job.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David Jul 21, 2021 • 3:58:41pm

re: #212 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand why she just didn’t call him privately and celebrate his release that way. Why go public? She really doesn’t know how to read a room. Cosby’s legacy is toast — even with his former fans. I used to love the Cosby Show but like Seinfeld, it’s forever tainted and unwatchable now.

Seinfeld. Because of Michael Richards?

Or did I miss someone else involved taking off a mask?

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 3:59:19pm

re: #211 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I like it when the ads are unintentionally amusing (even if only to me).

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For a moment there I thought that was Ric Flair in the top left.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 4:01:11pm

re: #215 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Yes. Richards. That was an awful outburst. Couldn’t believe it.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 21, 2021 • 4:01:22pm

re: #215 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Seinfeld. Because of Michael Richards?

Or did I miss someone else involved taking off a mask?

Many of the characters in Seinfeld acted in crude and misogynistic ways. There were many jokes relating to minorities (i.e. the cigar store Indian).

Also, count the number of black characters on the show sometime. There are…not many.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:01:39pm

I have yet to see Jake tweet about anything that really matters to Arkansans.
Does he not realize you have to at least pretend like you give a s**t for your constituents before they vote for you? https://t.co/qwbxpLZIwE

— 💐Julie💐ShadyTomatoStudio (@vintagegoddess) July 21, 2021

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TedStriker Jul 21, 2021 • 4:03:20pm

re: #212 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand why she just didn’t call him privately and celebrate his release that way. Why go public? She really doesn’t know how to read a room. Cosby’s legacy is toast — even with his former fans. I used to love the Cosby Show but like Seinfeld, it’s forever tainted and unwatchable now.

That’s what’s so disappointing about her tweet and her apologies for it.

As for Seinfeld, I never really cared for it and still don’t, even before Michael Richards’ N-word meltdown, because I’ve never really “gotten” Seinfeld’s schtick; Richards’ transgression, however, still nags me a bit whenever I watch Weird Al’s UHF, seeing as pre-Seinfeld Richards plays a very major character in the movie. However, Richards aside, UHF is still one of my favorite movies, because, at its heart, it’s Weird Al’s fully-exposed id at the height of his fame and power (and, also, the only Weird Al movie we’ll likely ever get).

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David Jul 21, 2021 • 4:03:56pm

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Many of the characters in Seinfeld acted in crude and misogynistic ways. There were many jokes relating to minorities (i.e. the cigar store Indian).

Also, count the number of black characters on the show sometime. There are…not many.

I did not and generally don’t watch it. I’ve always got a “people so self absorbed in their own bullshit that they would run over a pedestrian in the process and not realize it but might feel a little bad over it after the fact” vibe from it.

And I’m not a fan of that.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Jul 21, 2021 • 4:04:45pm

re: #206 TedStriker

“Many showbiz people say” (and please feel free to take that with as many pounds of salt as you want) that Cosby’s bullshit, like Harvey Weinstein’s, was not exactly a secret among his peers even long before his legal troubles.

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KGxvi Jul 21, 2021 • 4:06:12pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does he not realize you have to at least pretend like you give a s**t for your constituents before they vote for you?

He is betting on just having to win the Republican primary, and to do that in the contemporary/post-modern GOP, all you gotta do is hit the high notes in the culture wars

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Jul 21, 2021 • 4:06:50pm

re: #220 TedStriker

There’s just one place to go for all your spatula needs!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jul 21, 2021 • 4:06:56pm

re: #221 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I believe I’ve never watched an episode of Seinfeld.

Then too, I’ve never watched an episode of Friends.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 4:08:55pm

The Weird History of Gender-Segregated Bathrooms (Live Science, May 9, 2016)

Gender-segregated public restrooms are either very old or very new, depending on how you look at the question. They arose in the Victorian era, along with widespread plumbing, meaning they’ve been around almost as long as the modern bathroom itself. On the other hand, having privacy for peeing is a relatively modern phenomenon.

The first known gender-segregated loo was for a Parisian ball in 1739, which people at the time thought was a novelty.

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KGxvi Jul 21, 2021 • 4:09:38pm

So for some reason, I’m looking at 2022 Senate races, and have a question…

Do we want Portman to lose in the primary to one of the idiots running against him thereby improving Ryan’s chance of winning the general? Or do we not want to run the risk of a crazy senator?

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David Jul 21, 2021 • 4:10:09pm

re: #222 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

“Many showbiz people say” (and please feel free to take that with as many pounds of salt as you want) that Cosby’s bullshit, like Harvey Weinstein’s, was not exactly a secret among his peers even long before his legal troubles.

What year did Mulholland Drive come out? 2000? 2001? I’m sure it was written in the 90s.

The whole plot of that movie is basically about “The Casting Couch” but because David Lynch made it, it takes 20 years of analysis to figure that out and get through all the surreal, stylistic stuff piled on top. When interviewed about the movie many years later, Lynch actually brought up MeToo and Harvey Weinstein when discussing the themes of the flick.

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A Three Hour Tour Jul 21, 2021 • 4:12:00pm

re: #206 TedStriker

Speaking of Cosby, I grew up on The Cosby Show…I loved it, I loved Himself, but I can’t and won’t ever watch or listen to anything he’s done anymore because of the conniving, scheming rapist he turned out to be off-camera and off-stage that’s in such stark contrast to his well-crafted “America’s Dad” public persona.

When Phylicia Rashad tweeted in celebration of Cosby’s release from prison (that she later walked back for damage control when she was getting ratioed by hell and gone and dragged in the press for it, no doubt), I have to say that I was very disappointed in her and still am, to an extent.

However, I’ll give Rashad a bit of understanding on that tweet, for this one reason: Cosby was very methodical about pursuing his prey and, apparently, it seems that, in the case of the shows she did with him (including the later Cosby), Cosby didn’t “shit where he eat” and apparently didn’t target Rashad or his other then-castmates on those shows. Being friends and co-workers with Cosby over the course of almost forty years must have given Rashad a hell of a blind spot when all this started coming out, especially when it’s not, AFAIK, affecting her or people she knows directly. Even with all of the women that had been his prey over several decades all the way back to his college days coming out and all of the legal actions, she could have still been in denial about it all, because that’s not the Bill Cosby she knew…and that she didn’t want it to be true.

So, Rashad gets just this one…only this one.

In 1983, I used to enjoy “Himself,” when it was omnipresent on the premium cable movie channels of the time.

Watching it again many years later as an adult, I found myself taken aback by how often routines revolved around Camille and the Cosby daughters wanting Ennis killed. And how many routines came across as a justification for child abuse as a loving form of discipline.

After that, I couldn’t look at those routines the same way again.

The Dentist routine, though, remains comedy gold.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David Jul 21, 2021 • 4:12:13pm

re: #225 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I believe I’ve never watched an episode of Seinfeld.

Then too, I’ve never watched an episode of Friends.

I’ve never watched friends because there’s no way someone that works part time at a coffee shop can afford to live in Manhattan. Even back in the 90s. The suspension of disbelief is too much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:12:57pm

re: #227 KGxvi

So for some reason, I’m looking at 2022 Senate races, and have a question…

Do we want Portman to lose in the primary to one of the idiots running against him thereby improving Ryan’s chance of winning the general? Or do we not want to run the risk of a crazy senator?

I’m hoping the Dems come up with someone amazing

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:14:39pm

Block or charge? https://t.co/zbkCI5uh42

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) July 21, 2021

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KGxvi Jul 21, 2021 • 4:15:54pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m hoping the Dems come up with someone amazing

Looks like the field is cleared for Tim Ryan. As a general rule, I’m not too keen on clearing fields for preferred candidates. Seems to rarely work out for either party.

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TedStriker Jul 21, 2021 • 4:20:28pm

re: #222 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

“Many showbiz people say” (and please feel free to take that with as many pounds of salt as you want) that Cosby’s bullshit, like Harvey Weinstein’s, was not exactly a secret among his peers even long before his legal troubles.

Oh, no doubt that Cosby had a reputation as a “creeper” long before The Cosby Show, Himself, or even Mother, Jugs, and Speed, I Spy, and his other 60s and 70s work. However, innuendo and gossip is often just that, with no factual grounds; when it’s starts getting into the legal arena, where there are penalties for perjury and false witness, that’s where the rubber really started meeting the road for all of those decades-long gossips and innuendos against Cosby.

Like with many of the high-profile people that have been proven to be rapists, pederasts, and abusers over the past decade or two, such as Cosby, Spacey, Weinstein, Bryan Singer, and others, there’s going to be a lot of people in the industry (and even knowledgable fans) that connect the dots of all of that innuendo and gossip and be (at least) “WTF?” as it finally becomes public with corraborative proof and others, such as Rashad, that lets their personal biases cloud their logic, because *person they know* would never do such things.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 4:21:52pm

re: #233 KGxvi

Looks like the field is cleared for Tim Ryan. As a general rule, I’m not too keen on clearing fields for preferred candidates. Seems to rarely work out for either party.

He’s white, male, Christian, and pro-union. Are there any other relevant attributes for a Democratic candidate in Ohio?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 4:22:03pm

re: #233 KGxvi

Looks like the field is cleared for Tim Ryan. As a general rule, I’m not too keen on clearing fields for preferred candidates. Seems to rarely work out for either party.

I’m of two minds (or more) on that.

On the one hand, the idea of “machine politics” can generate some pretty awful people.
On the other hand, a long-drawn out primary is a gift to the opposition when they’ve already cleared the field (Clinton/Sanders v Trump).
On the third hand, if there isn’t a lot of difference between the candidates’ positions except polling, hangers on seem more likely to be grifters or stoking their ego.
On the fourth hand, there might only be one decent candidate willing to run at all.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David Jul 21, 2021 • 4:22:09pm

re: #229 A Three Hour Tour

In 1983, I used to enjoy “Himself,” when it was omnipresent on the premium cable movie channels of the time.

Watching it again many years later as an adult, I found myself taken aback by how often routines revolved around Camille and the Cosby daughters wanted Ennis killed. And how many routines came across as a justification for child abuse as a loving form of discipline.

After that, I couldn’t look at those routines the same way again.

The Dentist routine, though, remains comedy gold.

Yeah I felt the same. As I got older the normalization of child abuse in Himself slowly turned me off of Cosby, but hadn’t completely cause me to boycott before the nail in the coffin came out, mainly because I thought that was “just how everyone was back then”.

Also after Ennis’ death, all the talk of “killing” him was really uncomfortable to watch.

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TedStriker Jul 21, 2021 • 4:26:15pm

re: #229 A Three Hour Tour

In 1983, I used to enjoy “Himself,” when it was omnipresent on the premium cable movie channels of the time.

Watching it again many years later as an adult, I found myself taken aback by how often routines revolved around Camille and the Cosby daughters wanted Ennis killed. And how many routines came across as a justification for child abuse as a loving form of discipline.

After that, I couldn’t look at those routines the same way again.

The Dentist routine, though, remains comedy gold.

re: #237 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Yeah I felt the same. As I got older the normalization of child abuse in Himself slowly turned me off of Cosby, but hadn’t completely cause me to boycott before the nail in the coffin came out, mainly because I thought that was “just how everyone was back then”.

Also after Ennis’ death, all the talk of “killing” him was really uncomfortable to watch.

Yeah, after Ennis’ death, it was hard going back to watching the Himself routines about him, because it just didn’t feel right.

Now, all of it doesn’t feel right. At all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:27:33pm

sigh

Chants of #BlackLivesMatter and #AllLivesMatter outside of campus for #PresidentBiden town hall @Enquirer pic.twitter.com/sJn80eNrCI

— Cara Owsley (@caraphoto23) July 21, 2021

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HRH Stanley Sea Jul 21, 2021 • 4:28:15pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 4:30:44pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

And once again, the military and veterans do not own the flag or the national anthem.

If you want to respect us, how about supporting us where it matters? Improvements to military and VA care? Support for dependents? Maybe pay the National Guard you disingenuous fuquestick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:31:14pm

re: #240 HRH Stanley Sea

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Ace Rothstein Jul 21, 2021 • 4:32:55pm

Any Trumper that says “GIVE ME LIBERTY OR DEATH” I say choose death. Thanks.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 4:33:31pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:33:58pm

Today I walked and ran a total of 10 miles. So I just ate a large bag of potato chips. Because I have to preserve the balance of nature.

— Alice Dreger, Ph.D. (@AliceDreger) July 21, 2021

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Jul 21, 2021 • 4:34:17pm

What does ‘lame duck speaker’ mean? It is incredibly dumb.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:35:56pm

Its the “nobody can see this message but you” for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 https://t.co/QPYFgqxsvS

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) July 21, 2021

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John Hughes Jul 21, 2021 • 4:38:13pm

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

Clapton: ain’t going to play ~~sun city~~ France.

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 21, 2021 • 4:40:09pm

re: #248 John Hughes

Clapton: ain’t going to play ~~sun city~~ France.

A great guitarist, a garbage human.

Reminder this is him: pic.twitter.com/uWQncZfCcc

— chris evans (@chris_notcapn) July 21, 2021

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piratedan Jul 21, 2021 • 4:40:12pm

re: #246 Colère Tueur de Lapin

it’s to ensure that we can differentiate who he’s speaking about “lame duck speaker” from himself “embarrassingly lame speaker”

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John Hughes Jul 21, 2021 • 4:40:13pm

re: #117 Eric The Fruit Bat

What gets frustrating is when the system crashes during a boot and you Get a nonspecific blue screen courtesy of Microsoft.

oh, that’s easy to fix. Stop using Windows.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:41:45pm

Pelosi when I asked her about McCarthy’s blast that she is playing politics with Jan 6 committee - a classic: “Perhaps you mistake me for somebody who would care about that.”

— Lisa Desjardins (@LisaDNews) July 21, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:43:50pm

Who?

Who specifically gave that order? Name that son of bitch and hold him accountable. https://t.co/8yC4PlqEE0

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) July 21, 2021

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sagehen Jul 21, 2021 • 4:44:51pm

re: #227 KGxvi

So for some reason, I’m looking at 2022 Senate races, and have a question…

Do we want Portman to lose in the primary to one of the idiots running against him thereby improving Ryan’s chance of winning the general? Or do we not want to run the risk of a crazy senator?

Portman’s retiring .It’ll be an open seat.

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Dopamine Fish Jul 21, 2021 • 4:45:07pm

re: #254 sagehen

Portman’s retiring .It’ll be an open seat.

Crazy it is, then.

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DodgerFan1988 Jul 21, 2021 • 4:45:48pm

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

People thought Eric Clapton’s “Farewell” tour would be about him going away, but it turns out it’s about his audience going away—for good.

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) July 21, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:46:59pm

Biden’s townhall coming up in 14 minutes on CNN

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sagehen Jul 21, 2021 • 4:47:38pm

re: #230 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’ve never watched friends because there’s no way someone that works part time at a coffee shop can afford to live in Manhattan. Even back in the 90s. The suspension of disbelief is too much.

They addressed that in a later season; it was Monica’s grandmother’s rent-controlled apartment.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 4:48:07pm

Flynn’s brother, Charles, is going to implicated in 1/6—I’ll bet my Matchbox car collection on it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 4:51:51pm

re: #229 A Three Hour Tour

The Dentist routine, though, remains comedy gold.

“200 MPH” was also good.

Why is it that great comedians in their early days seem to always wind up becoming lecherous losers?

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danarchy Jul 21, 2021 • 4:52:33pm

re: #230 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’ve never watched friends because there’s no way someone that works part time at a coffee shop can afford to live in Manhattan. Even back in the 90s. The suspension of disbelief is too much.

So I was watching Bosch on Amazon prime and every time he is at home it is like in what universe can a police detective live in a place like that, with a view like that in L.A.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 4:53:41pm

The grift must go on. It is eternal and forever shameless.

Shiawassee County, Michigan, Republicans Help Themselves To $65K In COVID-19 ‘Hazard Pay (Wonkette)

Congress passed President Joe Biden’s American Rescue Plan without a single Republican vote, but that didn’t stop Republicans from shamelessly claiming credit for all the good the bill would achieve. Now, some Michigan Republicans are directly profiting from the bill’s largesse.

Members of the Shiawassee County Board of Commissioners, who are all Republicans, agreed to share federal COVID-19 relief funds with their employees last week, but they divided their bounty trickle-down style: According to records obtained by Michigan Live-The Flint Journal, “top-level administrators” each received $25,000, department heads took home $12,500, middle management officials (who are likely superfluous) received $5,000, and the chief deputies, Health Department employees, and attorneys (those guys always have their hands out … sorry, honey) got $2,500.

But what about the front line workers, the people directly exposed to the coronavirus when they cleaned buildings and provided vaccines to residents? The employees identified as “cleaning staff” received $2,000 and the rest got $1,000.

Yeah, that’s fucked up.

(more)

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 4:58:56pm

re: #251 John Hughes

oh, that’s easy to fix. Stop using Windows.

If there’s one thing worse than an Mac bigot it’s a Linux bigot. /s

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austin_blue Jul 21, 2021 • 4:59:22pm

re: #259 Barefoot Grin

Flynn’s brother, Charles, is going to implicated in 1/6—I’ll bet my Matchbox car collection on it.

Are they New In Box?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 4:59:36pm

Meet Phantom, one of the world’s largest horses 🐴 pic.twitter.com/dGW5qfxWz2

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) July 21, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 5:01:03pm

and lookie there…Biden is on time!

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William Lewis Jul 21, 2021 • 5:01:42pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s a horse big enough to handle my fat ass! :)

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Barefoot Grin Jul 21, 2021 • 5:02:32pm

re: #264 austin_blue

Are they New In Box?

No. They are well crushed and worthless. When I was a child in Quincy, Il we had a neighbor who was very high functioning something or other. He was about 20yo when we moved there. I was about 5yo. We played Matchbox cars together. But he was so careful and always wiped his cars off before returning to the box. His cars were pristine; mine were always dinged up. But somehow I still have them.

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Targetpractice Jul 21, 2021 • 5:02:57pm

Another of those mysteries (that never really was one) solved:

Trump’s campaign stopped COVID testing Tulsa rally staff after news stories about infections made president ‘livid’https://t.co/SEo024jX4U

— Raw Story (@RawStory) July 21, 2021

Instead of distancing people, locking the event down, refusing to allow positive people to enter and a slew of other public health-friendly ideas, the campaign stopped testing.

“The campaign immediately clamped down on testing to prevent discovering who else might be infected,” said the book. “Word was passed throughout the Trump team that afternoon: remaining staff were not to get tested in Tulsa, but rather to wait until they returned home to headquarters in Arlington.”

“‘The president wants this to stop,’ a campaign staffer told an Oklahoma VIP who had arrived to get tested.”

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Dopamine Fish Jul 21, 2021 • 5:04:01pm

re: #269 Targetpractice

Herman Cain was unavailable for comment.

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Dread Pirate Ron Jul 21, 2021 • 5:05:32pm

The US will break through 50,000 new Covid cases today.

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Dread Pirate Ron Jul 21, 2021 • 5:06:14pm

oops, it already did while posting that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 5:06:30pm

“I do not tell any scientist what they’re supposed to do.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 5:07:29pm

re: #271 Dread Pirate Ron

Natural Selection at work…

91-divoc.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 5:08:14pm

And in other shameless Republican lying in Michigan:

Michigan Sheriff Alarms Small-Town Clerks With Shady, Mike Lindell-Inspired Elections Probe (Talking Points Memo, today)

Berry County Sheriff Dar Leaf (R) is investigating all township clerks with a deputy and a private investigator over his allegations they committed voter fraud.

And the clerks are none too happy about it.

“It seemed like they were looking to accuse people or places of fraud, or potential fraud, is what it felt like,” said Cindy Willshire, clerk of Thornapple Township.

“They say they’re not questioning our integrity, but you almost kind of feel like they are,” said Anita Mennell, clerk of Hastings Charter Township.

“I’ve been a clerk for 18 years and I’ve had a spot-on election every time,” said Robin Hawthorne, clerk of Rutland Township. “We’re all a little upset about this.”

The investigative duo ended some of their interviews — in which they’ve asked about the procedures in place on Election Day and the programming of Dominion voting machines — by saying they could return with even more questions about the election, several clerks told TPM.

“I told them, I’m done talking,” Hawthorne recalled. “If you want to talk to me again, come back with a subpoena or a warrant.”

(more)

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Jul 21, 2021 • 5:09:44pm

Night Lizards. Food Pron (maybe) in the morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 5:11:44pm

Pediatrician’s question: What is the White House doing to combat medical misinformation and restore America’s faith in science?

Biden: Listen to the scientists. Let the scientists proceed because they desperately want to get this right.

— WCPO 9 (@WCPO) July 22, 2021

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 21, 2021 • 5:16:09pm

re: #275 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Leaf told The Hastings Banner that Lynch came recommended by Stefanie Lambert Junttila, a bit player in the legal effort to steal Trump a second term, and one of several attorneys facing sanctions for the (allegedly) frivolous lawsuit she filed seeking to overturn Michigan’s election results.

Junttila also represented Sheriff Leaf in a December lawsuit he filed against Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson and the Board of State Canvassers, alleging massive election fraud. A federal judge tossed that suit just a day after it was filed, saying that the sheriff had asked the court to make “speculative leaps toward a hazy and nebulous inference that there has been numerous instances of election fraud and that defendants are destroying the evidence.”

If I was the plantiff’s the the show cause hearing in Michigan against the Kraken, here’s another item to add to the pyre.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 5:19:04pm

re: #278 Eric The Fruit Bat

If I was the plantiff’s the the show cause hearing in Michigan against the Kraken, here’s another item to add to the pyre.

Since he’s making accusations about Dominion Voting Systems, he would shut his yap right away if Dominion went after him for libel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 5:23:21pm

“free market has been competition between companies, why not competition for workers?”

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The GOP is a terrorist organization Jul 21, 2021 • 5:24:48pm

Like OJ being upset he can’t be part of the murder investigation! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

— Poker Dog 🐕 💙 (@Poker_Dog1) July 22, 2021

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 5:28:35pm

“The well has been poisoned so much over the last four years…”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jul 21, 2021 • 5:31:45pm

Another asshole Republican arrested, this time in Montana. I think we need to shut the whole GOP down until we can find what the hell is going on.

State senator charged with reckless driving, obstructing a peace officer (Montana Free Press)

He was doing 88 mph in a construction zone. He threatened the state trooper’s job by saying he would call the state Attorney General to get him fired.

Montana Senate President Pro Tempore Jason Ellsworth, R-Hamilton, has been charged with three misdemeanors, including obstruction of a peace officer, after he was pulled over for speeding in a construction zone in May. The officer reported a verbal altercation with Ellsworth in which the senator claimed he was exempt from arrest because he was a lawmaker traveling for legislative business.

The charges were filed by Broadwater County Attorney Cory Swanson on May 26. Ellsworth is scheduled to make an initial appearance in court on Aug. 3.

The traffic stop and charges have not previously been reported.

The senator did not respond to multiple requests for comment before publication. An attorney representing Ellsworth also did not respond to a request for comment on behalf of his client.

In a statement provided after publication, a spokesman for Senate Republicans said the incident occurred when Ellsworth was on his way to Helena “after a long day dealing with a family medical issue.”

“He was in a hurry to get to town and get some rest before running errands and participating in legislative business the next day,” Kyle Schmauch said in an emailed statement.

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Dangerman Jul 21, 2021 • 5:34:50pm

re: #263 Eric The Fruit Bat

If there’s one thing worse than an Mac bigot it’s a Linux bigot. /s

lma become one as fast as I can

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Dopamine Fish Jul 21, 2021 • 5:36:53pm

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Targetpractice Jul 21, 2021 • 5:37:24pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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The spin from the political press was always going to be that McCarthy “won,” the only question was in what way had he “won.” And now that he pulled the entire slate because the two biggest clowns were rejected, the media has no reason to show the hearings live because there’s no ratings to be had without a lot of theatrics and shouting by Repubs looking to turn the whole process into a farce. Somber, serious efforts to get to the facts just don’t sell ad time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 21, 2021 • 5:43:13pm

After a follow-up question, Biden then speaks specifically to how the service/hospitality industries will need to adapt and offer higher wages to its workers. Downplays impact of increased unemployment on people returning to work.

— WCPO 9 (@WCPO) July 22, 2021

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jaunte Jul 21, 2021 • 5:47:15pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scarce labor? Raise the pay. What a concept!

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jaunte Jul 21, 2021 • 5:47:22pm

Foxnews makes money in their evening programming by pushing fear. And the truly crazy thing is, they could use fear to scare people into getting vaccinated. But they choose to push fear of the vaccine, which is literally killing people. 🤷🏻‍♀️ https://t.co/LUenz7aqhG

— Paula Chertok🗽 (@PaulaChertok) July 22, 2021

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Targetpractice Jul 21, 2021 • 5:48:33pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What is truly driving the industries hit by the “unemployment crisis” is that things aren’t going to plan. They thought they could just cut loose their entire workforce, coast for months on whatever money they had in the bank, and then come back months later to turn on the keys and go back to “business as usual.”

And what’s distressing them so badly is that the employees they expected to be so desperate for work that they’d jump at the opportunity to just return to shit wages and poor treatment instead got enough money from the government to look for better jobs or get the training/education they needed to do so.

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2020 Blue Wisconsin Jul 21, 2021 • 5:48:57pm

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Good for you! I hope this new job works out better for you. That is incredibly shitty of your last job.

Thanks, I’m definitely looking forward to the new job. It’s at a state hospital for individuals dealing with mental illnesses.

The thing is, I can’t really single out my old company as a particularly bad actor or anything (even though I do take issue with some of their business decisions and IMO top heavy organizational structure). They were operating the way that industry as a whole operates. And being a non-profit, its not like anyone was just greedily lining their pockets (though the CEO was pulling down a fair bit of coin).

One of the larger issues is that they are stuck negotiating rates with the state or managed care organizations contracted by the state. Unless the state or Medicare/Medicaid is willing to pay more, they are pretty much forced to accept the rates that are offered.

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Dopamine Fish Jul 21, 2021 • 5:49:11pm

Republicans are what you get when stupidity is weaponized in a lab in China.

Pro-Trump Group Files Motion Against FDA to Stop #COVID19 Vaccinations in U.S.

Was filed on July 19th. https://t.co/3viM4INILa @DrEricDing @AkivaMCohen

— Gary Stanley (@gstanley79) July 20, 2021

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William Lewis Jul 21, 2021 • 5:51:29pm

re: #285 Dangerman

lma become one as fast as I can

Psst: FreeBSD for the win!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Jul 21, 2021 • 5:51:32pm

re: #290 jaunte

Tucker’s obviously a psychopath. If he has to be a psycho-killer, his insane audience is the best possible target. People who follow the lead of the man that no person in their right mind would take seriously, as his employer asserts.

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retired cynic Jul 21, 2021 • 5:52:04pm

re: #260 Eric The Fruit Bat

“200 MPH” was also good.

Why is it that great comedians in their early days seem to always wind up becoming lecherous losers?

I got to see that one live. My father’s favorite was “Russell, My Brother Who I Slept With,” as it reminded him so much of growing up with my uncle Dale as his younger brother.

“Chicken Heart.” Oh, when he was starting, he was so good!

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Patricia Kayden Jul 21, 2021 • 5:55:41pm

re: #143 (((Archangel1)))

Yeah, it’s the People’s house which your thugs broke into on behalf of your racist pig of a president.

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A Mom Anon Jul 21, 2021 • 5:57:39pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Downplays? Oh come on. There are very few people who want to stay home and do nothing and “live off unemployment”. All most people just want to be able to support themselves, their families and maybe have a little left over for retirement and the occasional vacation or education. Imagine a world where basic needs and a little more could be met with a minimum wage job. How many people could rise and do so many amazing things without poverty and constant anxiety, the ability to learn a skilled trade or get a college degree? It’s really damned stupid we haven’t figured this out by now.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 21, 2021 • 6:01:47pm

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