John Mayer - New Light (Live on the Today Show)

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Sure, it’s just pop music, but it’s really good pop music, not over-produced, not auto-tuned, just the real shit. I think John Mayer’s singing has gotten even better.

“New Light” performed by John Mayer on The Today Show.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 5:49:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 5:53:41pm
Always hungry for violence (despite worshiping a man who taught followers to “turn the other cheek”), right-wing pundit and professional anti-Semite Rick Wiles said on Friday that he’s preparing for a full-on civil war to combat Joe Biden‘s alleged Communism.

This accusation will come as a shock to literally anyone who knows anything about Joe Biden, Democrats in general, or Communism.

(more)

Rick Wiles: We Must Destroy Sissified Leftists and Biden’s Communist Revolution (Friendly Atheist)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 5:54:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2021 • 5:57:13pm

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jaunte  Jul 21, 2021 • 5:59:25pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Millionaire business owner has not yet figured out fair wages.

“The co-founder of one of Cincinnati’s largest restaurant groups has won an award for his eateries’ use of technology.”

“…Thunderdome is the operator of 42 Currito locations as well as seven other restaurant concepts: Bakersfield Tacos, Tequila & Whiskey; CityBird Tenders; the Eagle Food & Beer Hall; Krueger’s Tavern; Maplewood Kitchen & Bar; Pepp & Dolores, and SoHi Grilled Sandwiches.”

bizjournals.com

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:01:05pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“The government unemployment benefits are wrong because they’re keeping people from taking jobs for shit wages and no benefits. How are you going to encourage workers to take those jobs?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:01:30pm

Lemon: How do you reply to Republicans who say that you and the Democrats are anti-police?

President Biden: They’re lying.

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Dopamine Fish  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:01:58pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lemon: How do you reply to Republicans who say that you and the Democrats are anti-police?

President Biden: They’re lying.

Wait, did he ACTUALLY say this?! Please say it’s true. I really want to love this man more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:02:37pm

re: #8 Dopamine Fish

Wait, did he ACTUALLY say this?! Please say it’s true. I really want to love this man more.

yes, he actually said it.

with EMPHASIS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:05:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:05:23pm

re: #8 Dopamine Fish

Wait, did he ACTUALLY say this?! Please say it’s true. I really want to love this man more.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:06:09pm

Tomorrow is the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Annual, known in Spain as the Disaster of Annual or the Annual Massacre.

The Battle of Annual was fought on July 22, 1921 at Annual, in northeastern Morocco, between the Spanish Army and Rifian Berbers during the Rif War. The Spanish suffered a major military defeat, which is almost always referred to by the Spanish as the Disaster of Annual (Spanish: Desastre de Annual). It led to major political crises and a redefinition of Spanish colonial policy toward the Rif.

This is a complex story but basically, the Spanish colonial regime was trying to extend its defacto control into previously autonomous regions of its North African protectorate. Spanish sovereignty had been recognized internationally, and by a good many locals, since about 1891 but control was lax to non-existent outside the immediate areas of the long standing Spanish enclaves of Ceuta (in the west) and Melilla (in the east). Apparently King Alfonso XIII had a big role in instigating an attempt to gain full control in the rest of the territory. A Spanish force of over 5000, commanded by General Manuel Silvestre, marched out of Melilla and advanced over 60 miles into Rifian territory, despite many warnings from tribal leaders that further incursions would not be tolerated. Silvestre was socially prominent and reportedly a favorite of the king but otherwise singularly unqualified for this demanding mission. Most of his troops were poorly trained and worse-led conscripts.
Before it was over, Silvestre himself had disappeared, his army was completely destroyed, and the Rifians, led by one Abd el Krim (a former Spanish judge) had not only driven the Spanish out of their territory, they had rolled up the line of blockhouses protecting the demarcation line and pushed right to the gates of Melilla. Only one of Silvestre’s units, the Alcantara Cavalry Regiment, managed a cohesive and disciplined retreat, and they lost all but 84 of their 500+ troopers. A few Spanish troops escaped to French territory to the south and a handful made it to the coast and were rescued by Spanish ships. 324 were taken prisoner. Something like 14,000 Spanish soldiers were killed in the panicked stampede and mountains of equipment, including modern artillery, hundreds of cars and trucks, and thousands of horses, were captured.
Elite troops of the Spanish Legion were rushed to the area and eventually led a counter-offensive that re-gained most of the originally Spanish-controlled territory. Their commander became a national hero. He was Colonel Francisco Franco and it was his first appearance as a national figure.

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jaunte  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:07:52pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:10:36pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:15:41pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love President Biden more than I expected to. His presidency is not as groundbreaking and exciting as President Obama’s but he’s doing an excellent job. Too bad he doesn’t have a Senate to advance his agenda.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:20:44pm

I think the first question I would have asked Mr. Lanni in response to the idea of “incentives” to get people to work for him again would be “How many people did you fire last spring?”

Not for performance issues or disciplinary action, but people that were suddenly called to be told that they were being “let go” due to business dropping off a cliff. No warning, no compensation, no way to cushion the blow whatsoever. Even many of the jobs he no doubt gives himself credit for “saving” owed no small part to the massive government loans handed out over the last 18+ months.

Now, why should they come back to work for him? Is he offering higher pay? Guaranteed benefits? Safe work environments? Or is he just making the same sales pitch as he did before COVID, with any takers understanding that he can fire them tomorrow if he suddenly sees his profits dip?

The government bailed him out last year because the economic downturn that hurt his businesses was not of his own doing and there was little he could do to keep afloat besides shedding jobs. He’s not getting another bailout because he’s too damned cheap to save himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:20:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:25:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:27:00pm

niterz, lizardz

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:27:27pm

I must have listened to this song about a bazillion times on the radio and in various elevators, buses, & shopping venues. Today I was waiting in line at CVS to pick up my meds and it was blasting away and I got an earworm.

I never watched the video before but I just did and HOLY SHIT

Annie Lennox - Walking on Broken Glass (Official Video)

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Dave In Austin  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:33:28pm
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dat_said  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:36:59pm

re: #13 jaunte

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I need to stop looking for the thread when I see 1/6 at the end of a tweet.

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jaunte  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:37:17pm

re: #22 dat_said

I did it too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:37:55pm

re: #21 Dave In Austin

Kevin McCarthy says that Republicans will run their own investigation into the insurrection instigated by the leader of their party

Can the minority party set up an independent Congressional investigation of any kind or is this just a political party operation funded by the voters of their party? I would hope that none of this qualifies for taxpayer money from the federal government.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:40:56pm

re: #24 Hecuba’s daughter

Can the minority party set up an independent Congressional investigation of any kind or is this just a political party operation funded by the voters of their party? I would hope that none of this qualifies for taxpayer money from the federal government.

It will not surprise me to see Koch, Mercer or other parasites provide the funding for this sham…which will of course blame Godless Nancy…

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:44:30pm

re: #20 The Pie Overlord!

I must have listened to this song about a bazillion times on the radio and in various elevators, buses, & shopping venues. Today I was waiting in line at CVS to pick up my meds and it was blasting away and I got an earworm.

I never watched the video before but I just did and HOLY SHIT

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Video

Ah, the Dangerous Liaisons/Blackadder the Third crossover.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:44:57pm

Today’s Asshole Of The Day Award goes to…

Madison Cawthorn: ‘I think we should indict Jill Biden’…

rawstory.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:46:59pm

re: #26 A Three Hour Tour

Ah, the Dangerous Liaisons/Blackadder the Third crossover.

Hugh Laurie is in there. He has a little CVS sticker on his face cheek.

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plansbandc  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:50:33pm

re: #15 Patricia Kayden

All those misfires culminated in his being President at the exact right time in history. I admire him because he’s willing to adapt and grow. And he will not put up with any malarkey.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:55:00pm

re: #28 The Pie Overlord!

Hugh Laurie is in there. He has a little CVS sticker on his face cheek.

Yes, hence the Blackadder reference. I only caught the final seconds of the video during its initial release, around the time I was encountering Blackadder the Third on VHS.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:57:48pm

They went there.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 21, 2021 • 6:59:50pm
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garzooma  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:05:07pm

re: #28 The Pie Overlord!

Hugh Laurie is in there. He has a little CVS sticker on his face cheek.

Also John Malkovich.

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Dangerman  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:05:58pm

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:08:18pm

Blue Lives Matter my ass.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:11:31pm

re: #35 DodgerFan1988

He’s trying to get this officer killed. Stochastic Terrorism. What the fuck is wrong with him?

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Dangerman  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:13:28pm

Alabama doctor on treating unvaccinated, dying COVID patients

“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” - Dr. Brytney Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, AL.
….
“A few days later when I call time of death,” continued Cobia on Facebook, “I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same.”

“They cry. And they tell me they didn’t know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn’t get as sick. They thought it was ‘just the flu’. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they can’t. So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives.”

from here

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sagehen  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:17:08pm

re: #15 Patricia Kayden

I love President Biden more than I expected to. His presidency is not as groundbreaking and exciting as President Obama’s but he’s doing an excellent job. Too bad he doesn’t have a Senate to advance his agenda.

(pssst: Jim Clyburn is smarter than you or me. Let’s listen to him sooner next time.)

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Teukka  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:22:47pm

re: #35 DodgerFan1988

Blue Lives Matter my ass.

Cucker Tarlson is a bona fide asshole…

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sagehen  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:24:17pm

re: #21 Dave In Austin

and OJ’s still looking for the “real killer”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:24:21pm

And what are we doing about our high speed rail system…..

World’s first 600 km/h high-speed maglev train rolls off assembly line

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No Malarkey!  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:28:16pm

re: #36 A Mom Anon

He’s trying to get this officer killed. Stochastic Terrorism. What the fuck is wrong with him?

Tucker is a fascist.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:29:31pm

Charles, I dare you not to like Liz Cheney.

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:32:29pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

CO State Highway 14 is closed between MM 66 (Cameron Pass) and MM 92 (Rustic) through the Poudre Canyon “due to severe flooding.” Cameron Peak Fire burn scar.

One dead, three missing after flash floods sweep mud and debris from wildfire scars into Poudre Canyon | The Colorado Sun

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:35:18pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:40:30pm

re: #45 Eric The Fruit Bat

Every national election they won’t shut the fuck up about it.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:42:54pm

I’m guessing that most of the unvaccinated seniors are Republicans.

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Teukka  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:44:34pm


Just “…”.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:44:59pm

re: #37 Dangerman
I read this earlier and cried like a baby. Damn it humans. Come ON. I will never understand how a person ends up so joyfully destroying everything for “fun”. Reality is still here, I really don’t get how it’s possible to function at all and not know deep down that thousands are getting sick and many are dying and it’s not getting better. Because of them.

And the things being asked of all of us are not even difficult. Disposable masks are lightweight and pretty comfortable, especially when you aren’t generally wearing them all day like medical personnel and front line workers. Distancing can be trickier, especially in retail or restaurants and other close in gathering places. Which is why we are going to have to deal with these opening becoming closings again. Those two things and hand washing could have slowed down or stopped the viral mutations we’re seeing now. We now have two variants that we know of. This could have been so much better by now. Without sacrificing one fucking iota of Freedom. That’s gonna be a hard one for me to forgive, personally speaking.

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BeachDem  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:48:26pm

re: #38 sagehen

(pssst: Jim Clyburn is smarter than you or me. Let’s listen to him sooner next time.)

And before booze, womanizing and Lee Atwater and the gang led him to be taken in by Abscam, my old buddy, John Jenrette, recognized Clyburn’s smarts early on:

In 1978, James Clyburn was running for Secretary of State, trying to become the first African American statewide office holder in South Carolina. Jenrette broke with traditions—both the tradition of elected officials not supporting primary candidates and the unspoken tradition of Southern white politicians not supporting African American candidates at all—to lend his strong support to Clyburn. Although Clyburn did not win that election, he gained recognition and support, and went on to become a major force in the US House, currently as the third-ranking Democrat in the House.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 21, 2021 • 7:55:45pm

Tucker Carlson attacked him on his show tonight.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:03:58pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:10:52pm

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:17:34pm

Madrid 1972

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Dave In Austin  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:19:00pm

Quite a thread on Anti Vax code.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:26:04pm

re: #35 DodgerFan1988

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Blue Lives Matter my ass.

I hope Fucker Carlson lawyered up!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:28:17pm

This looks bad….

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ckkatz  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:29:33pm

There are attempts to find out what tfg cost the United States in the past 4 years. And GOP mismanagement over the past 20. I think that we have lost a lot, in ways that they, and their consequences, are not yet fully understood.

One example is tracking the decline of Americans’ lifespan in just the past year.

Trygve Olsen has a good thread on another affect, that on the damage done to the US Democracy and governance, and what that means for our economy and loss of opportunity:

Beginning of thread

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Dave In Austin  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:31:41pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:32:06pm

re: #32 Dread Pirate Ron

“India’s actual death toll from Covid-19 could range between 1.3 million to a staggering 5 million, with even the most conservative estimate putting its tally at more than double the U.S., the highest recorded in the world so far.”

Just remember that their population is 4 x ours. So if they had twice the number of deaths, the death rate among the population would be half ours. Number is important but to see how well something is managed, you need to compare on the same basis: deaths per million. Cases are more complicated given that most cases are never officially reported and indeed most may be asymptomatic or so mild that the person never is tested.

I also want to comment on an earlier post which shows the huge percentage increase in child hospitalizations under delta compared to a prior wave. Yes — there is a significant increase but it still appears to be very few children. Each child is a tragedy, but so far it is not causing widespread harm to young children. They remain a small percentage of the total caseload, though that can always change with newer variants.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:44:13pm

At the top of Wonkette’s overnight open thread, an interesting correction for Doktor Zoom on a previous article in the day.

Hey kids, this is a little unusual, but I thought it was interesting as an example of how information can go a bit awry. Bit of a Update/clarification on our Climate Roundup, re. that New York Times story about the effects of climate on the wine industry in Napa Valley.

I received a very nice email from Teresa Wall, the senior director of marketing communications for Napa Valley Vintners, to clear up a bit of a misconception in the Times story: No, growers are not spraying sunscreen made for use on human skin on their wine grapes. Rather, it’s an “organic clay based” agricultural product what protects grapes from sun and heat.

I wondered about that! Bet Ms. Wall has had a hell of a couple of days since the Times story came out, and Yr Wonkette is happy to correct the wrong impression. No Coppertone in your Merlot!

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:49:00pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:57:20pm

re: #57 Eric The Fruit Bat

This looks bad….

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On the one hand, this is a truly deep pile of shit that they’ve managed to find themselves in and the complaint itself makes clear that they’ve had prior chances to clear all this up but basically told the DFEH to fuck off.

On the other, this is a AAA game publisher whose CEO makes more money in bonuses annually than the average bureaucrat will see in a lifetime. Its army of lawyers will talk the state into agreeing to a slap on the wrist “fine” and empty promises to clean up their act.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:57:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 8:58:18pm

Mom vaccine update:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:02:51pm

re: #27 JOE 🥓

Today’s Asshole Of The Day Award goes to…

Madison Cawthorn: ‘I think we should indict Jill Biden’…

rawstory.com

Projection with these assholes always.

“I think we should indict Jill Biden,” said Cawthorn, who keeps company with the QAnon and sedition camps of the House GOP.

“I’m not saying indict in terms of criminal. But I’m saying that we should call her out for being so cruel to her husband.”

Cawthorn, on the far right media outlet Newsmax, mocked President Biden by saying “I don’t think he could find his way to Congress,” an attack on the Commander in Chief’s age and mental acuity. The right regularly and falsely claims Biden is not cognizant of his actions and is incapable of basic thought, claims reinforced on the right through manipulated video.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:10:29pm

Carlson is defining for his audience that The Law, and thus law enforcement, is defined by their appetites, not by any written code or justice system.

A cop that does not defer to them is not a cop, just as an American that does not defer to them is not an American.

But this has always been what “support the troops” and “back the blue” has been about…the need for enforcers to do the cruel and violent things to maintain the status quo. A cop that questions their entitlement to do violence or a soldier that questions the premise of the war they fight is no use to people who simply want a kind of servant who does violence.

Indeed, Tucker is stoking fear of the worst case scenario: that the enforcers can turn on his audience, that view themselves as not bound by the laws they wish to inflict on others.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:10:31pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That went to ∞ on my Asshole-O-Meter.

Honestly how could such a sleazy asshole even get elected to Congress?

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JOE 🥓  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:13:32pm

Wisconsin Gubernatorial Candidate Jonathan Wichmann Says ‘Good Christian Patriots’ Must ‘Take Over’

Spoken like a true Bolshevik Republican…

Jonathan Wichmann Says ‘Good Christians Patriots’ Must ‘Take Over’

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:13:53pm
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ckkatz  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:14:40pm

Good PopeHat story.
(PopeHat is the twitter account of Ken White, a California Criminal Defense attorney)

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JOE 🥓  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:19:56pm

re: #71 ckkatz

Every day I get 2-3 calls about my auto warranty…but I don’t have a car.

I’ve gotten calls alleging my Social Security Number has been “frozen” and the phone number is spoofed as an actual Social Security office…

The new scam started last week. Got 2 calls saying my Medicare card was “frozen” first in North Dakota and the second time from Texas. Oh and I was fined $2,500 for the first offense for both…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:32:21pm

Keep driving good people away, Christians.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:36:05pm

re: #72 JOE 🥓

I recently got my first text attack — “minor issues was detecte on your mobile:banking!” I did not click to correct this.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:36:11pm

re: #60 Hecuba’s daughter

So their low end range would be comparable to our reported range and their high end is about 25% bigger than what our comparable excess death total would be if scaled.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:38:19pm

re: #67 The Ghost of a Flea

Carlson is defining for his audience that The Law, and thus law enforcement, is defined by their appetites, not by any written code or justice system.

A cop that does not defer to them is not a cop, just as an American that does not defer to them is not an American.

But this has always been what “support the troops” and “back the blue” has been about…the need for enforcers to do the cruel and violent things to maintain the status quo. A cop that questions their entitlement to do violence or a soldier that questions the premise of the war they fight is no use to people who simply want a kind of servant who does violence.

Indeed, Tucker is stoking fear of the worst case scenario: that the enforcers can turn on his audience, that view themselves as not bound by the laws they wish to inflict on others.

There’s two parts to this, the first fairly easy to understand in that much like Needi Amin, most of his fan club believes that everything is transactional. In their minds, they pay all the taxes and are the only ones who show support, so those cops and soldiers owe their loyalty to them. Whenever a cop crosses the chubby blue line or a soldier speaks out against the latest quagmire the warhawks drummed them into, MAGAts immediately take offense because they believe that those cops and soldiers are “biting the hand that feeds them.”

The other part is equally dumb but no less important, and that’s that MAGAts believe that the majority of law enforcement and the armed forces are exactly like them. Even in the wake of 1/6, one of the core parts of their “revolution” fantasies sees LEO and soldiers alike not only refusing lawful orders but actually taking up arms to fight alongside the “patriots.” Which is what made 1/6 so shocking to many of them, that the cops not only refused to join them in their little insurrection, but that no soldiers rode in to lend them armed support against the “tyrannical government.”

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:40:25pm

re: #74 The Ghost of a Flea

Adam Silverman at Balloon Juice says this is a consequence of the agreement between Unilever and the Netanyahu government.

balloon-juice.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:45:30pm

re: #72 JOE 🥓

Every day I get 2-3 calls about my auto warranty…but I don’t have a car.

I’ve gotten calls alleging my Social Security Number has been “frozen” and the phone number is spoofed as an actual Social Security office…

The new scam started last week. Got 2 calls saying my Medicare card was “frozen” first in North Dakota and the second time from Texas. Oh and I was fined $2,500 for the first offense for both…

For a while we got the auto warranty scams, but not recently. They fall into the trap of trying to spoof one of our town’s telephone numbers and get them wrong.

I’ve occasionally gotten threat scam calls over my delinquent college loan debt I never had. Once in a while I will allow those to go through to a real person so I can fuque with them and waste their time (if they’re talking to me, they’re not scamming someone else).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 21, 2021 • 9:54:18pm

Upcoming NY/NJ/Long Island show dates. In private (I’ve been informed that some of you don’t live in the tri-state area).

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:01:43pm

re: #80 I Would Prefer Not To

Upcoming NY/NJ/Long Island show dates. In private (I’ve been informed that some of you don’t live in the tri-state area).

You are correct. I live nowhere near Quincy, IL.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:05:23pm

re: #80 I Would Prefer Not To

Upcoming NY/NJ/Long Island show dates. In private (I’ve been informed that some of you don’t live in the tri-state area).

I live in the tri-state area. Wait, you don’t mean Wyobraska?

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plansbandc  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:07:00pm

re: #72 JOE 🥓

Yeah, I’ve been getting a bunch of your car warranty is about to expire calls. I don’t have a car warranty. I have a beater ‘92 sedan.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:08:00pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I live in the tri-state area. Wait, you don’t mean Wyobraska?

the tri-state area with millions of people (NY, NJ, CT)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:09:03pm

(11:28, Prominent Republicans Speak Up About Vaccines As Delta Infections Soar)

Scientists have identified a dangerous pathogen called the Republican Party.

Prominent Republicans Speak Up About Vaccines As Delta Infections Soar

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:11:04pm

Covid disinformation.

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:12:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:22:30pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oops, left out the YouTube video of Steven Cobert part.

Prominent Republicans Speak Up About Vaccines As Delta Infections Soar

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JOE 🥓  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:22:30pm

re: #87 teleskiguy

BOFFO

I prefer Bosco!

Bosco Chocolate Syrup Commercial (1950s)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:32:05pm

Fire map.

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William Lewis  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:32:19pm

So. Should have been home an hour ago but the new person who was supposed to do her first alone shift tonight didn’t show up. No call, no show, no nothing. Bleah.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:39:43pm

re: #92 William Lewis

So. Should have been home an hour ago but the new person who was supposed to do her first alone shift tonight didn’t show up. No call, no show, no nothing. Bleah.

Been there, done that. Given my experience, the excuses will range from “I didn’t know I was supposed to work that shift!” to “I overslept!” to my personal favorite “I had a family emergency and couldn’t get to a phone!”

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William Lewis  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:43:31pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

Been there, done that. Given my experience, the excuses will range from “I didn’t know I was supposed to work that shift!” to “I overslept!” to my personal favorite “I had a family emergency and couldn’t get to a phone!”

GM is going to come in at either 3:30 or 5. I’d prefer 5 because I can do the breakfast set up for her. Don’t usually get that on the front desk here but what do they expect for as little as they’re willing to pay?

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:47:31pm

re: #94 William Lewis

GM is going to come in at either 3:30 or 5. I’d prefer 5 because I can do the breakfast set up for her. Don’t usually get that on the front desk here but what do they expect for as little as they’re willing to pay?

Sounds like me, saying through clenched teeth on the phone that of course I’m happy to stay late, I’m always happy to help out. Especially when I know that the person who was training to be my replacement/carry some of my shifts is likely now about to be shit-canned.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 10:59:12pm

Alright folks, pack it in, Chris Cillizza has spoken:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:21:35pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The idea that the Democrats or Biden, [are] hiding people and sucking the blood of children … we’ve got to get beyond this … this is not who we are.”

This is who we have become. It is not enough to disagree with your opponents, you have to vilify and destroy them.

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wrenchwench  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:23:23pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

Sounds like me, saying through clenched teeth on the phone that of course I’m happy to stay late, I’m always happy to help out. Especially when I know that the person who was training to be my replacement/carry some of my shifts is likely now about to be shit-canned.

I gave 2 weeks notice about a week ago. My ‘voluntary termination’ form says I am to get a copy, so I figure it’s important, so I carry my copy in my pocket. Yesterday, the HR person said she never got a copy, so I pull mine out and she takes a picture. She did not see the back. I had written ‘fyjigmo’, which, according to Mr. w, is shorthand for a statement of shorttimers attitude in the Navy. He pronounced it ‘fajigmo’, then pronounced it ‘fuck you Jack, I got my orders’.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:40:12pm

The British governments plans for vaccine passports (for domestic use) may well go down in flames. Labour has announced they’re voting against it, and there’s enough Tory opponents to the measure, as well as MP’s from the Liberal Democrats, that it might not pass.

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:44:12pm

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

The British governments plans for vaccine passports (for domestic use) may well go down in flames. Labour has announced they’re voting against it, and there’s enough Tory opponents to the measure, as well as MP’s from the Liberal Democrats, that it might not pass.

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*sigh*

Just when you might have thought America had clinched the title of “World’s Dumbest Democracy,” the UK comes from behind with a strong 11th hour bid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:47:54pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

*sigh*

Just when you might have thought America had clinched the title of “World’s Dumbest Democracy,” the UK comes from behind with a strong 11th hour bid.

Trump only lasted four years, Brexit is going to haunt them for generations.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:51:14pm

re: #100 Targetpractice

*sigh*

Just when you might have thought America had clinched the title of “World’s Dumbest Democracy,” the UK comes from behind with a strong 11th hour bid.

Here in Czechia, vaccine passports for domestic use were pre-emptively struck down by the Constitutional Court. They straight-up told the government, “Don’t even fucking think about it. Equality is absolute and there can be discrimination based on health status.” In that ruling, they outright blasted the Health Minister for “acting like a Roman Emperor.”

The government can ask businesses to check their customer’s vaccine status - but they cannot order them to do so. And no business here checks their clientele’s vaccine status.

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sagehen  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:53:33pm

re: #96 Targetpractice

Alright folks, pack it in, Chris Cillizza has spoken:

Does the presence of Liz Cheney not make it automatically bi-partisan?

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Targetpractice  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:56:26pm

re: #102 Dr Lizardo

Here in Czechia, vaccine passports for domestic use were pre-emptively struck down by the Constitutional Court. They straight-up told the government, “Don’t even fucking think about it. Equality is absolute and there can be discrimination based on health status.” In that ruling, they outright blasted the Health Minister for “acting like a Roman Emperor.”

The government can ask businesses to check their customer’s vaccine status - but they cannot order them to do so. And no business here checks their clientele’s vaccine status.

Fair point, though I could argue that there is at least the possibility that demand from private businesses might lead to vaccine passports becoming a thing. As opposed to here in the US, where red state governors looking to possible ‘24 bids have declared that businesses cannot even consider such a thing.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:57:33pm

This kinda flew under the radar, what with all the COVID-19 craziness. It’s been dubbed the “Czech Second Amendment”, though that’s an exaggeration. And regulations still apply, naturally.

The Senate, the upper house of Czech parliament, has approved the right to use arms to defend oneself and others under legal conditions to be embedded in the constitution as a reaction to the EU’s pro-regulatory stance on firearms acquisition and possession.

This right was included in the Senate-proposed amendment to the Charter of Fundamental Rights and Freedoms, which is part of the constitution. Senators, therefore, passed the amendment as expected.

According to the authors of the bill, this constitutional change will prevent the right to bear arms from being restricted by common law and will strengthen the position of the Czech Republic in the debates on further EU regulations.

Now President Miloš Zeman must sign it into law. The president cannot veto a constitutional bill against common pieces of legislation.

expats.cz

As the article notes, President Zeman cannot veto this particular legislation.

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sagehen  Jul 21, 2021 • 11:59:25pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oops, left out the YouTube video of Steven Cobert part.

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His new incentive program:

For everyone who gets vaccinated, he guarantees them a lifetime supply of LIFE and TIME.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:00:02am

re: #104 Targetpractice

Fair point, though I could argue that there is at least the possibility that demand from private businesses might lead to vaccine passports becoming a thing. As opposed to here in the US, where red state governors looking to possible ‘24 bids have declared that businesses cannot even consider such a thing.

Here, hell no. Czechs are a pretty libertarian bunch in many respects - and that libertarianism is clearly defined in the business community. When the idea was first floated, it was instantly shot down by the business community, especially small businesses.

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ckkatz  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:12:49am

In this Beau video argues that

1. Republicans want to overthrow the Constitution and replace our form of government with an authoritarian one
2. They are still in the organizing phase of this movement.
3. They are still in positions of power. They are not gone.
4. The investigation needs to be a serious one, and must inform and persuade the American people of the threat.
5. Pelosi was right in preventing agents of the movement aiming to overthrow the government from disrupting the investigation into their actions.

I agree with Beau that Pelosi was correct in rejecting those clowns.

Let’s talk about Pelosi’s decision to veto Republican picks….

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:14:12am

re: #108 ckkatz

Speaker Pelosi definitely made the right call. At the bare minimum, those two asshats would’ve used every opportunity to turn it into a giant clownshow.

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Targetpractice  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:17:05am

re: #108 ckkatz

In this Beau video argues that

1. Republicans want to overthrow the Constitution and replace our form of government with an authoritarian one
2. They are still in the organizing phase of this movement.
3. They are still in positions of power. They are not gone.
4. The investigation needs to be a serious one, and must inform and persuade the American people of the threat.
5. Pelosi was right in preventing agents of the movement aiming to overthrow the government from disrupting the investigation into their actions.

I agree with Beau that Pelosi was correct in rejecting those clowns.

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The issue is what it always is: The media wants theatrics and it wants spectacle in order to sell advertising time. And a dry, serious look at the facts of 1/6 and the events immediately leading up to it won’t give them that. Which is why they’re already helping McCarthy push the talking point that this committee not being “bipartisan” means whatever report it eventually produces will be “partisan” and thus of no real value.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:24:51am

Vaccine pass won’t get you into an Eric Clapton concert…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:25:09am

Latest COVID-19 numbers from Czech Republic; there were 235 new cases Wednesday, which is 25 less than last Wednesday (14 July 2021). Reproduction number is still holding below 1 - it was 0.97 yesterday, same as since Monday.

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ckkatz  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:26:27am

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

This kinda flew under the radar, what with all the COVID-19 craziness. It’s been dubbed the “Czech Second Amendment”, though that’s an exaggeration. And regulations still apply, naturally.

expats.cz

As the article notes, President Zeman cannot veto this particular legislation.

Iirc, Czech and Slovakia have had a robust arms industry since the end of World War 1. The German seizure of the Czech military supplies and factories in 1939 was a significant factor in the German ability to invade Poland and France. Thousands of Czech manufactured tanks were deployed by the Germans and their allies during World War 2.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:27:06am

re: #106 sagehen

His new incentive program:

For everyone who gets vaccinated, he guarantees them a lifetime supply of LIFE and TIME.

Tickets to a special performance by Air Supply…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:29:13am

re: #113 ckkatz

Iirc, Czech and Slovakia have had a robust arms industry since the end of World War 1. The German seizure of the Czech military supplies and factories in 1939 was a significant factor in the German ability to invade Poland and France. Thousands of Czech manufactured tanks were deployed by the Germans and their allies during World War 2.

Indeed; not long ago, Česká Zbrojovka purchased Colt Firearms. ČZ firearms are well-renowned the world over.

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wrenchwench  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:30:04am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:32:28am

The Olympics are gonna be a shitshow, chapter #537:

Preparations for the opening ceremony of the Tokyo Olympics have been thrown into further turmoil after the show’s director was sacked over a joke about the Holocaust he made in the late 1990s.

Kentaro Kobayashi, a popular entertainer, was dismissed after a video clip resurfaced online of a skit in which he joked about a game he called “let’s play massacre the Jews”, prompting laughter in the audience.

The 1998 skit, made when he was one half of the Rahmens comedy duo, was a parody of a popular TV educational programme and showed Kobayashi and his partner recounting a discussion with their producer about ideas for the show using paper cutouts of human figures.

theguardian.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:34:41am
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ckkatz  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:35:42am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

Indeed; not long ago, Česká Zbrojovka purchased Colt Firearms. ČZ firearms are well-renowned the world over.

I had not realized that Colt bought CZ.

When the iron curtain fell, CZ pistols were considered among the highest quality of all former Warsaw Pact arms imported here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:36:57am

re: #118 Dread Pirate Ron

Bryce and Zion Canyons are where God goes on vacation.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:41:06am

re: #119 ckkatz

I had not realized that Colt bought CZ.

When the iron curtain fell, CZ pistols were considered among the highest quality of all former Warsaw Pact arms imported here.

Other way around….ČZ bought Colt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:45:22am

ČZolt!

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ckkatz  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:47:39am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

Other way around….ČZ bought Colt.

Aha! I had not realized that.

Last thing I checked, a decade or more ago, vulture capitalists had purchased several of the old line firearms companies and were in the process of skimming all the money that they could from them as the companies were driven into bankruptcy.

In addition iirc, in the last century Colt had some significant quality assurance problems. Hopefully CZ has provided more a responsible and competent management.

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ckkatz  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:51:49am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

Indeed; not long ago, Česká Zbrojovka purchased Colt Firearms. ČZ firearms are well-renowned the world over.

I went back and re-read what you had written. Yup, you had clearly written that CZ purchased Colt. My bad.

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ckkatz  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:52:48am

And on that, Niterz all!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 12:59:30am

Revolverova

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Ming5000  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:03:55am

Now that many GQP leaders switched to being pro vax, will ALL the GQP change their tune to pro vax? The GQP seems to move en masse to a single position at the flick of a switch.

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William Lewis  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:04:35am

As someone who has been far more a fan of CZ than of Colt, I didn’t mind that turn of events. Colt now has better management than it ever has - yes, ever. Sam Colt was a 19th century Steve Jobs: great marketer, crappy manager. They’ve been staggering from one error to the next ever since.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:05:43am

re: #127 Ming5000

Now that many GQP leaders switched to being pro vax, will ALL the GQP change their tune to pro vax? The GQP seems to move en masse to a single position at the flick of a switch.

I suspect that this will start to eroded the hard liners but I imagine this was part of a strategic reposturing on the part of GOP leadership to keep losses to a minimum

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Ming5000  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:07:49am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect that this will start to eroded the hard liners but I imagine this was part of a strategic reposturing on the part of GOP leadership to keep losses to a minimum

The roiling anger in the GQP ranks is fun to watch.

I do hope the whole anti-vax thing dies a quick death. The GQP has enough other conspiracies to enjoy.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:20:25am

re: #123 ckkatz

The general consensus was that ČZ’s acquisition of Colt was a positive development, especially as ČZ would bring their quality game.

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sagehen  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:28:06am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bryce and Zion Canyons are where God goes on vacation.

And here I was thinking they’re the model units for the subdivision…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:29:14am

re: #132 sagehen

And here I was thinking they’re the model units for the subdivision…

Plitvice lakes in Croatia are the shopping mall fountains…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:34:21am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bryce and Zion Canyons are where God goes on vacation.

I thought he went to Garden of the Gods.

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Targetpractice  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:40:26am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bryce and Zion Canyons are where God goes on vacation.

You mean “The Father in the Cave”?

/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:42:53am

re: #127 Ming5000

Now that many GQP leaders switched to being pro vax, will ALL the GQP change their tune to pro vax? The GQP seems to move en masse to a single position at the flick of a switch.

I think that’s why the Website is called “Talking Points Memo.” The Republicans get their talking points and they stick to them. It doesn’t matter if the talking point entirely contradicts yesterday’s talking point.

Aside from political nerds and buffs, they don’t expect their own voters, or those who only pay attention to elections every four years, to catch them switching up what they’re saying.

You can see it over the vaccine: It was a great feat of leadership by Donald Trump to promote his Operation Warp Speed (which had little to do with anything), while simultaneously saying that they won’t take a vaccine allegedly developed by Trump, while he downplayed vaccines for the entire pandemic, while his voters and Republican politicians insist he never did that, while voters insist it’s a lie or a hoax he got a vaccine at all as soon as it was available, while Republican politicians for the most part will not tell you if they got one (meaning they did because their voters are primed to oppose it from the politicians’ own statements and actions), while saying they never opposed vaccines (they just want more evidence they work or a final approval or ten years worth of longitudinal studies or whatever crap they’re selling), while Rupert Murdoch jumped on the very first plane he could to get the vaccination from the United Kingdom’s socialised medical care system, while FOX bashes socialised medicine, &c.

When you put it all in one sentence like that, you can see why their followers can’t follow, and I missed a bunch of steps.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 1:49:49am

The culture war must go on. Perhaps if Critical Race Theory was done up as Christianity-themed Starbucks coffee cups for Christmas.

UNL could remain on censure list due to Pillen’s resolution against critical race theory (Omaha World-Herald)

UNL is the University of Nebraska at Lincoln (the home campus).

The American Association of University Professors said Wednesday that it may not remove the University of Nebraska-Lincoln from its censure list because of Regent Jim Pillen’s proposed resolution condemning the teaching of critical race theory.

Pillen, a gubernatorial candidate, plans to bring the resolution to a vote at the Board of Regents’ Aug. 13 meeting. The resolution states, among other details, that the regents will “oppose any imposition of Critical Race Theory in curriculum.”

In a statement Wednesday, the AAUP said, “An institution whose governing board dictates the subjects that its faculty members may or may not address in their classrooms fails to honor the basic tenets of academic freedom that enable institutions of higher learning to seek the truth and promote the common good.”

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:01:30am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I thought he went to Garden of the Gods.

Beer Garden of the Gods on Sunday afternoons after services.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:04:15am

Looks, CRT is critical (of the established power structure) it’s racial (we are a post-racial society, right?) and it is a theory (like Evolution).

So that’s already three strikes against it…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:04:27am

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Originally the school got on the list in 2018 because a student-lecturer berated a sophomore (on her own time) who was recruiting (on her own time) for Turning Point, USA.

The school allowed the lecturer’s contract to run out without providing any due process to the lecturer. AAUP sanctioned the University of Nebraska for suppression of free speech and denial of due process.

The school was working to get off the list before the Regent torpedoed that with his culture war about Critical Race Theory.

The chancellors of each of the campuses in the system have protested against the Regent’s move to try to ban Critical Race Theory from the University system next month.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:06:26am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Every Republican politician in the state will tell you there is a brain drain of young adults (college educated or not) out-of-state because our property taxes are so high, not because of their culture war crap.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:11:55am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

President Ted Carter and chancellors from each campus said university leaders would work to “vigorously protect and defend academic freedom” at NU.

NU leaders say they have ‘significant concerns’ about resolution opposing critical race theory (Lincoln, Nebr. Journal-Star)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:16:20am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

NU leaders say they have ‘significant concerns’ about resolution opposing critical race theory (Lincoln, Nebr. Journal-Star)

The issue of teaching it in schools is just a hollow talking point as CRT is not taught in schools and there never were any plans to introduce it.

But trying to ban it at University level really demonstrates that these people have no fucking clue of what they are trying to prevent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:18:30am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The issue of teaching it in schools is just a hollow talking point as CRT is not taught in schools and there never were any plans to introduce it.

But trying to ban it at University level really demonstrates that these people have no fucking clue of what they are trying to prevent.

They’re not necessarily trying to prevent anything. They’re trying to spin a narrative to conservative voters and radical centrist voters that Democrats are trying to teach white people are inherently racist, and the only way to prevent that is to vote us into office to prevent it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:20:01am

Today’s op-ed in the Omaha World-Herald:

So it turns out that Texas will not pay Nebraska for deploying our state troopers to the border with Mexico in response to Gov. Greg Abbott’s request.

The agreement, dated June 12, says so in all-capital letters. It’s hard to miss.

Yet when asked June 21 about who would cover the costs, state patrol spokesman Cody Thomas intimated that Texas would reimburse Nebraska under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact. He outlined how Nebraska was paid for helping in North Dakota during Keystone XL pipeline protests and described the process as routine.

“The funding aspect of the deployment has not been finalized, however, NSP has been reimbursed for previous EMAC responses, such as in North Dakota and Minnesota,” Thomas wrote in an email to The World-Herald’s Sara Gentzler.

“Agencies submit expenses through the state emergency management agency, which is then reimbursed by the state that has made the EMAC request,” he added.

Given the agreement’s explicit language, Thomas’ response was, generously, a half-truth. It was Ben Franklin who said, “Half the truth is often a great lie.”

(more)

Editorial: Nebraskans shouldn’t have to pay for political showboating on Texas border

Dayum, they called it a lie.

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Targetpractice  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:20:09am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The thing about it all is that you can see they were gearing up for a way different set of talking points before Election Night. Once upon a time, we were all told about how horrible Dems were for even suggesting that they might be skeptical of a vaccine rushed through under the Trump admin. Dem candidates faced questions during both the primary and general election debates about whether or not they’d get vaccinated if a vaccine were developed before the election. There was never a question of whether or not Repubs would happily get the “Trump vaccine” if it became available before November. No suggestions that he’d be “hesitant” or that such vaccines needed “more time.” Talk of microchips and mind control and other such bunk was treated as conspiracy theorist crap by all but the most crazed MAGAts on the campaign trail.

Had Trump won last November, he would have made a big scene about getting injected with “his” vaccine. Repubs would parade around how amazingly awesome it was to receive the “Trump vaccine.” There would be no dodging the question from the MAGAt press, they’d proudly declare that they’d received the “Trump vaccine” and were now safe from the scourge of COVID. Instead of nightly stories about how “dangerous” the vaccines are, we’d hear stories about the lives being saved and experts assuring folks about the safety of getting the shot. If any stories featured vaccine hesitance or opposition, the people involved would either be spun as “angry” libs trying to hurt Trump’s efforts to “Make America Great Again” or conspiracy nuts being encouraged by such. There would be suggestions from the likes of Carlson and Ingraham that not only should Dems thank Trump for saving them, but even arguing that since blue cities/states didn’t vote for him that vaccine allotments for them be directed to red cities/states that had voted for him.

All of this is why their handling of the matter of vaccines and vaccinations seems so disorganized and piecemeal, because they had been so convinced he’d win that they never really planned for what to do if he didn’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:21:21am

I see. Now that we have defunded and disarmed the police, we have handed our neighborhoods over to the mercy of roving Mau-Mau rape and revenge gangs. CRT is just there to provide a legal framework for allowing this White Genocide, right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:22:19am

re: #146 Targetpractice

All of this is why their handling of the matter of vaccines and vaccinations seems so disorganized and piecemeal, because they had been so convinced he’d win that they never really planned for what to do if he didn’t.

Trump 2016 in reverse

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Targetpractice  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:23:54am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The issue of teaching it in schools is just a hollow talking point as CRT is not taught in schools and there never were any plans to introduce it.

But trying to ban it at University level really demonstrates that these people have no fucking clue of what they are trying to prevent.

The issue of CRT in schools is like “intelligent design” for creationism, a term meant to serve as an excuse for efforts to twist school curriculums to their desires. In VA and TX, when really pressed about what CRT means to them, white advocates of “anti-CRT” laws and rules have basically been forced to admit they want to remove anything that addresses America’s racist history from the required curriculum as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:34:41am

re: #149 Targetpractice

Germany should ban the teaching of “Critical Reich Theory”, stop fretting over concentration camps and jackboots trampling occupied countries and focus instead on the positive aspects of National Socialism: the Autobahns, space technology and all those advances in medical research, especially pediatrics…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:37:05am

re: #149 Targetpractice

The issue of CRT in schools is like “intelligent design” for creationism, a term meant to serve as an excuse for efforts to twist school curriculums to their desires. In VA and TX, when really pressed about what CRT means to them, white advocates of “anti-CRT” laws and rules have basically been forced to admit they want to remove anything that addresses America’s racist history from the required curriculum as possible.

See also Gov. Abbot’s attack on the folks at The Alamo Museum proposing a series on the reason for the fight (and the larger Texian revolt) as preservation of slavery in a place where it was illegal.

As a tactical battle, the Alamo battle was a military defeat. As a strategic battle, the Alamo battle was a victory in the Texas Revolution, because it tied up Santa Anna’s troops for thirteen days. Results of the battle were Texas declaring themselves a republic, a huge rush of people joining the army of the rebels. Santa Anna’s army was surprise attacked at the Battle of San Jacinto, even though his army outnumbered the Texians six-to-one, and Santa Anna was routed in less than twenty minutes, essentially ending the war.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:41:04am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

See also Gov. Abbot’s attack on the folks at The Alamo Museum proposing a series on the reason for the fight (and the larger Texian revolt) as preservation of slavery in a place where it was illegal.

In the heroic John Wayne Alamo, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who then volunteers to stay on and help fight and die alongside his former master.

In the flop Ron Howard version, Bowie dismisses his slave but tells him to report to his family, reminding him that he is still property….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:49:54am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the heroic John Wayne Alamo, Jim Bowie frees his slave, who then volunteers to stay on and help fight and die alongside his former master.

In the flop Ron Howard version, Bowie dismisses his slave but tells him to report to his family, reminding him that he is still property….

Santa Anna did spare William Travis’s slave Joe.

He also freed non-combatants Susanna Dickenson and Juana Alsbury, telling them to spread the word his army was unbeatable and the Texians should lay down their arms.

It was those women who spread the word that caused the massive volunteer movement for the Texian Army.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 22, 2021 • 2:56:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:01:15am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, I still have the image of Santa Ana parading among the smoking ruins of the Alamo with a “Mission Accomplished” banner hanging from the battlements.

(It was a mission, get it?….)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:02:18am

Somebody in Nebraska is pushing for a ballot referendum to require photo identification for all votes in Nebraska (including those of us who use mail ballots as the only form of elections). I won’t be signing such a petition if someone comes round my house.

A writer from out-of-state noted this.

With apologies to the residents of Omaha who read this column, for sounding like a broken record, I’ll ask this question again: if Nebraska passes a law that requires a photo ID to vote, will its citizens then accept the results of an election? Because your attorney general, Doug Peterson, did not accept the results of the 2020 election in four states, including Wisconsin, where we are required to have a photo ID to vote, both in person or by absentee ballot. He was willing to join the Texas AG last December in a lawsuit that claimed there was voter fraud in a state where he does not serve. If a state that already has a voter photo-ID law, is sued by a representative from a state that does not, what is the point of having the law? Or to put it another way, at what point will MAGA followers believe in the legitimacy of an election?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:08:59am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Or to put it another way, at what point will MAGA followers believe in the legitimacy of an election?

silly question. they will believe in the legitimacy of any election they win

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:10:02am

Mmm, makers of my favorite APA.

YouTube

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:11:14am
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:13:14am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who wrote this?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:26:53am

re: #160 Ace-o-aces

Who wrote this?

A comment from a person named Stephen Wolter on the Public Pulse (letters column) from Wisconsin, near the bottom of the comments section here.

omaha.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:27:37am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:30:11am

They lie, it’s ninety-six seconds. /s (video)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:32:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:43:03am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Many of our choices have social consequences and therefore have a civic dimension when they enhance or subtract from “public happiness.”

Like wearing crocs and sweat/yoga pants at the Wal-Mart…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:45:30am

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s trending as the news spreads of the head of the US Catholic Conference of Bishops Jeffery Burrill resigned after his cell phone data revealed he was using Grindr and going to gay bars.

Privacy advocates are concerned about the ease of revealing private data from cell phones.

Religious people from all faiths are attacking him, but arguing all “sins” are forgivable except one (the one that condemns me to Hell, “rejecting the Holy Spirit”).

Atheist activists are defending him while calling out the hypocrisy of Christians, noting Jesus said bupkis about gay people in the New Testament, and the only concern is he belongs to a bigot church. Perhaps freed of his position, he can move away from bigot religion and be himself.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:47:01am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like wearing crocs and sweat/yoga pants at the Wal-Mart…

Possibly a life sentence offence. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:48:51am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Possibly a life sentence offence. /s

I have few hard-and-fast fashion rules, but even before Karl Lagerfeld, I swore never to be seen wearing sweats or training gear in public unless I was out doing something athletic, or to wear crocs or Birkenstocks anywhere outside the house and grounds.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:50:05am

Keep driving people away from your religion. We don’t have to do anything but sit back and watch the best of your children reject your bigotry.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:55:08am

Quite the thread:

There are some bizarre answers in there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:58:09am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Those people are obviously more concerned with hurting than with truth.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 3:58:39am

In the annals of Wikipedia misogyny:

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Dave In Austin  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:02:43am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:04:16am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those people are obviously more concerned with hurting than with truth.

That would require changing religious dogma. By its nature, religious dogma or holy texts cannot adapt when new information comes round.

If you have holy unchanging eternal scripture, what do you do when its shown to be false?

For some, they simply double down. (This drives people to fundamentalism.) To others, it drives a so-called crisis of faith, in which an attempt to dig into dogma or scriptures only reveals further inconsistencies.

Couple that with people who might be more accepting of those different than they, the dogmatic drive people away from their faith who are already in it.

I don’t expect to see acceptance of the non-religious in the USA in my lifetime, but as I noted above, the best of their children will not follow them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:12:54am

The town roosters have been switched on. When I finish my drink I’m going to stagger away to bed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:20:15am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:23:34am

You can “affirm life” without having any children at all.

So I guess you’re opposed to sterile or elderly people marrying? Gotta fuque that dogma chicken. Your faith cannot allow you to accept - you know - you, and what you’ve been taught - are wrong.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:29:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:35:33am

It’s time.

Life in the fast lane.

ZZzz… .

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Dave In Austin  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:43:40am

This is always bad.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 22, 2021 • 4:58:30am

Reasons to become Pro-Corona.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:05:40am

re: #21 Dave In Austin

Who cares? Republicans keep believing that they have some magic wand that requires everyone to be afraid of them. We’re not afraid. When Americans vote, they lose. Hence all these red state voter suppression laws.

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:07:35am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Keep driving people away from your religion. We don’t have to do anything but sit back and watch the best of your children reject your bigotry.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:08:56am

re: #183 Belafon

What laws of nature? Animals also engage in same sex intimacy. There is no law of nature against homosexuality.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:10:48am

per reddit

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:26:42am

re: #185 Amory Blaine

per reddit

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No Malarkey!  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:32:35am

Good thread on how the mainstream media accept GOP corruption as a given, and only Democrats as having agency deserving of scrutiny.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:33:23am
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jeffreyw  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:38:47am

The Rock of Ollie

Good morning!

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:48:08am

re: #188 Dave In Austin

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Caught red handed at what?

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:48:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:52:38am

re: #190 Belafon

Caught red handed at what?

appointing his son to presidental advisor although he lied on his disclosure forms?

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:56:45am

re: #57 Eric The Fruit Bat

This looks bad….

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F Activision. They ripped me off years ago for “work for hire” I did for them.

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:57:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 5:59:18am

“Pelosi Partisan January 6th Commission”

New hobbyhorse

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:08:53am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see. Now that we have defunded and disarmed the police, we have handed our neighborhoods over to the mercy of roving Mau-Mau rape and revenge gangs. CRT is just there to provide a legal framework for allowing this White Genocide, right?

No matter how I try my brainwashed family insists that I live in a Muslim “No-Go” zone where sharia law is implemented and the police dare not go.

For the record I live in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles…and the LAPD is ALWAYS here!

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:13:01am

re: #187 No Malarkey!

Good thread on how the mainstream media accept GOP corruption as a given, and only Democrats as having agency deserving of scrutiny.

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I understand the cillizza op-ed didn’t stay up long before it was pulled

And most every other sane opinion after that was pro pelosi

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:14:41am

re: #187 No Malarkey!

Good thread on how the mainstream media accept GOP corruption as a given, and only Democrats as having agency deserving of scrutiny.

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Josh Marshall nails it with this observation at today’s Talking Points Memo!

The DC political press has Stockholm syndrome when it comes to the GOP’s aggressive use of power. So it’s as if political reporters can’t quite process Democratic power moves (which are rarer) as anything other than a GOP win.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:17:06am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:17:36am

re: #196 JOE 🥓

No matter how I try my brainwashed family insists that I live in a Muslim “No-Go” zone where sharia law is implemented and the police dare not go.

For the record I live in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles…and the LAPD is ALWAYS here!

Right-wing authoritarians try to dictate other people’s experiences to those other people. They have no idea how insane that is.

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:19:09am
Some anti-vaccination groups on Facebook are changing their names to euphemisms like ‘Dance Party’ or ‘Dinner Party,’ and using code words to fit those themes in order to skirt bans from Facebook, as the company attempts to crack down on misinformation about Covid-19 vaccines,” NBC News reports.

“The groups, which are largely private and unsearchable but retain large user bases accrued during the years Facebook permitted anti-vaccination content, also swap out language to fit the new themes and provide code legends.”

Gee why would they do that??

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:19:59am

re: #196 JOE 🥓

No matter how I try my brainwashed family insists that I live in a Muslim “No-Go” zone where sharia law is implemented and the police dare not go.

For the record I live in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles…and the LAPD is ALWAYS here!

They are convinced that the BLM protests last summer turned our inner cities into uninhabitable war zones.

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:20:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:20:52am

re: #201 Dangerman

Gee why would they do that??

to keep ahead of the bots, because FB is not about to actually pay people to look into things like this

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:21:33am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are convinced that the BLM protests last summer turned our inner cities into uninhabitable war zones.

People who substitute fascist propaganda for news seem to believe that our cities are burning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:23:05am

re: #205 Punish Domestic Terrorists

People who substitute fascist propaganda for news seem to believe that our cities are burning.

Remember one of the GOP arguments against Jan 6th hearings was “whattabout all the BLM/Antifa riots last summer?”

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:24:20am
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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:25:32am
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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:26:40am

We’re not the only country having trouble getting younger adults to vaccinate:

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:29:52am

Took em long enough:

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:30:14am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember one of the GOP arguments against Jan 6th hearings was “whattabout all the BLM/Antifa riots last summer?”

As if black people demanding equal rights, and white nationalists trying to end our democracy are just tit for tat, rather than right and wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:32:23am

re: #211 Punish Domestic Terrorists

As if black people demanding equal rights, and white nationalists trying to end our democracy are just tit for tat, rather than right and wrong.

…and people out protesting in public are the same as people illegally entering Congress.

There were certainly some some people committing crimes and misdemeanors in and around the BLM protests, and police were there to arrest and detain them in great numbers.
But every single protester in Congress that day was in violation of the law and not a single one was arrested that day.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:35:17am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, including one relative who still sits in Uncle Sam’s B&B fully expecting a pardon from President Trump when he is reinstated on September 17th…

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:37:13am

And this is one of the reasons why said relative is deluded enough to believe that he’s gonna get a Trump pardon…

Mike Lindell offers $5 million to cyber experts, reporters who can disprove his semi-mythical data

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:37:44am

Let us pause and remember what happened 10 years ago today when an anti-Muslim fascist, inspired by the likes of Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, committed the worst terrorist attack in Norway and one of the worst attacks in European history, targeting innocent kids on an island dressed as a fucking cop. 10 years later, we have failed to address the growing menace of right-wing extremism:

For me, July 22nd will forever be etched in my memory the same way 9/11 has. This should have been our wake-up call to confront far-right extremism. To think that we even have people in our own Western military forces that idolize Anders Breivik should be fucking alarming.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:39:14am

re: #215 electrotek

Let us pause and remember what happened 10 years ago today when an anti-Muslim fascist, inspired by the likes of Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, committed the worst terrorist attack in Norway and one of the worst attacks in European history, targeting innocent kids on an island dressed as a fucking cop. 10 years later, we have failed to address the growing menace of right-wing extremism:

and ten years later people are trying to say that he was inspired by or somehow connected to LGF

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:41:42am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and ten years later people are trying to say that he was inspired by or somehow connected to LGF

Which is still absurd while nothing is said about the others that clearly inspired Breivik.

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:42:02am
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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:42:17am
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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:43:28am
According to current estimates, the Delta variant could be more than twice as transmissible as the original strain of SARS-CoV-2. To find out why, epidemiologist Jing Lu at the Guangdong Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention in Guangzhou, China, and his colleagues tracked 62 people who were quarantined after exposure to COVID-19 and who were some of the first people in mainland China to become infected with the Delta strain.

The team tested study participants’ ‘viral load’ — a measure of the density of viral particles in the body — every day throughout the course of infection to see how it changed over time. Researchers then compared participants’ infection patterns with those of 63 people who contracted the original SARS-CoV-2 strain in 2020.

In a preprint posted 12 July1, the researchers report that virus was first detectable in people with the Delta variant four days after exposure, compared with an average of six days among people with the original strain, suggesting that Delta replicates much faster. Individuals infected with Delta also had viral loads up to 1,260 times higher than those in people infected with the original strain.

The combination of a high number of viruses and a short incubation period makes sense as an explanation for Delta’s heightened transmissibility, says epidemiologist Benjamin Cowling at the University of Hong Kong. The sheer amount of virus in the respiratory tract means that superspreading events are likely to infect even more people, and that people might begin spreading the virus earlier after they become infected.

nature.com[no phone numbers allowed]6-w?force_isolation=true

Charles, your algorithm thinks the link contains a phone number:

www . nature . com/articles/d41 586-02 1-019 86-w?force_isolation=true

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:49:00am

To add insult to injury, a memorial of a victim that was murdered by neo-Nazis was defaced with “Breivik was right” in Norwegian:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:52:33am

New trailer for Denis Villeneuve’s Dune just dropped.

Dune | Official Main Trailer

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Teukka  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:56:26am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

New trailer for Denis Villeneuve’s Dune just dropped.

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Video

Mind. Blown. O.O

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:58:24am

re: #96 Targetpractice

Alright folks, pack it in, Chris Cillizza has spoken:

These beltway have their head so far up their own asses they can’t see the the entire planet from the trees.

The modern Republican Party is a full-on cult aimed at destroying democracy by whatever means necessary. They want a republic- a fascist racist republic aimed at rewarding the very richest white men first by direct policy and no-bid government contracts and then letting “Darwin take its course” for everyone else. We have seen this pattern over and over and 40% of this country wants more.

Media ostriches like this cannot see this existential crisis every bit as serious as the 1860’s. No amount of both-siderism will make it simply go away. A Democratic inquiry must be prosecuted with full force against these fascists.

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 6:59:39am

Pelosi was right to reject Jordan and Banks, who, as blood was still drying on the floor of the Capitol, voted to give the insurrectionists what so many of them wanted. At a deeper level, Pelosi’s actions here also constitute a crucial development: the rejection of bipartisanship as a positive force in US politics. The select committee will still be bipartisan — GOP Rep. Liz Cheney, who voted to impeach Trump for fomenting the insurrection, will still serve on it — but the notion that Democratic leaders must work with Republican leaders in order to have political legitimacy is well and truly dead.

As it should be. The fetish for bipartisanship has dominated Washington for at least 80 years. In that time, bipartisanship acquired a rosy glow: to label a policy bipartisan was to deem it both representative and virtuous, the byproduct of opposing sides compromising their way to the best possible solution. But on its own, bipartisanship has never been a virtue. It has been, at best, virtue-signaling — a legislative both-sidesism that has infected US politics for far too long.

cnn.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:00:47am

re: #223 Teukka

Mind. Blown. O.O

I’m genuinely looking forward to it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:01:18am

I wonder how much it’s costing health insurance companies to subsidize care for all these unvaccinated fools ending up in hospital for days because of Covid?

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Teukka  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:01:27am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

New trailer for Denis Villeneuve’s Dune just dropped.

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re: #226 Dr Lizardo

I’m genuinely looking forward to it.

“Bless the Maker and His water.
Bless the coming and going of Him.
May His passage cleanse the world.
May He keep the world for His people.”

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:08:19am

How many Trump supporters fantasize about doing to antifa what Breivik did to the kids at Utoya?

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Teukka  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:10:17am

re: #229 electrotek

How many Trump supporters fantasize about doing to antifa what Breivik did to the kids at Utoya?

A majority of them? Wish I was /S

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Nojay UK  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:13:18am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

New trailer for Denis Villeneuve’s Dune just dropped.

Going by the trailer this is going to be a “This situation needs a white man” movie in ExplodeyVision that uses some bits of the original book to keep the action scenes from running into each other. Oh joy.

What the FUCK! are Fremen doing standing outside on Arrakis with their photogenic starring-role faces visible and not covered by their stillsuits? Oh yeah, Hollywood. I could go on but, whatever, it’s a movie. Before anyone says, the previous attempts at putting this flawed-in-itself book on screen were just as bad (in different ways) IMO although some of them had some nice screen-candy. It would be better if the money men just decided it was unfilmable and gave up but no-one asked me.

In other book-to-movie news Neil Gaiman’s fantastical ‘Anansi Boys’ is getting a movie with principal filming taking place at studios down in the docks in Leith near where I live.

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:13:22am

This idiot

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:13:39am

re: #214 JOE 🥓

And this is one of the reasons why said relative is deluded enough to believe that he’s gonna get a Trump pardon…

Mike Lindell offers $5 million to cyber experts, reporters who can disprove his semi-mythical data

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only “guys”?

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:14:11am
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Ming5000  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:15:17am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

New trailer for Denis Villeneuve’s Dune just dropped.

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Video

Hmmm.. looks like a noble effort!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:19:10am

re: #232 electrotek

This idiot

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:23:27am

re: #236 Punish Domestic Terrorists

It’s like those that keep bringing up US foreign policy on the anniversary of 9/11 or French colonialism on the anniversary of the 13 November attacks. It’s not fucking appropriate.

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Ming5000  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:27:28am

Formerly blue-checked Blaire Erskine liked this:

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:35:28am
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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:36:55am

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how much it’s costing health insurance companies to subsidize care for all these unvaccinated fools ending up in hospital for days because of Covid?

Oh I expect a lot of denied claims on that. But according to Phony Joni Ernst the churches will gladly step in and help.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:39:11am

re: #229 electrotek

How many Trump supporters fantasize about doing to antifa what Breivik did to the kids at Utoya?

I got relatives that go there including one currently in Uncle Sam’s B&B…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:39:30am

From the “stupidity is endless” files….

Senior Czech Olympic Committee officials have begun investigating a plane that brought members of the Czech party to Tokyo last Friday. A doctor on the plane was reported by news site Seznam Zprávy to have been the first passenger on board to later test positive for Covid-19. Since then two beach volleyball players, a beach volleyball coach and a table tennis player have tested positive for the virus.

Seznam Zprávy said that the doctor, Vlastimil Voráček, could have been vaccinated against Covid but did not do so. It also reported that most passengers took off their respirators as soon as the plane took off.

Prime Minister Andrej Babiš has described the situation as a scandal and unfair to the athletes.

english.radio.cz

Being reported in Czech media that the doctor is an anti-vaxxer.

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:39:31am

Breaks my heart

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coin operated  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:39:38am

re: #231 Nojay UK

What the FUCK! are Fremen doing standing outside on Arrakis with their photogenic starring-role faces visible and not covered by their stillsuits? Oh yeah, Hollywood. I could go on but, whatever, it’s a movie. Before anyone says, the previous attempts at putting this flawed-in-itself book on screen were just as bad (in different ways) IMO although some of them had some nice screen-candy. It would be better if the money men just decided it was unfilmable and gave up but no-one asked me.

Yeah…I understand. Hollywood has to dumb it down because we don’t want to think when we see a movie…we want to be entertained.

ExplodeyVision…that was a good one. I’ll go see this one for the visual effects, not because I think they’ll stay true to the storyline. I had to quit watching Clancy films for this reason. Hunt for Red October was OK, but they totally fuqed up Clear and Present Danger. Willem Defoe as Clark? C’mon, man!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:42:34am

re: #243 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

Breaks my heart

I recall hearing that MTG and MG had raked in $1.6m and $1m respectively

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:43:45am

re: #231 Nojay UK

What the FUCK! are Fremen doing standing outside on Arrakis with their photogenic starring-role faces visible and not covered by their stillsuits? Oh yeah, Hollywood.

And where is Morgan Fremen to come in explain all the gaps in the story line?

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:44:57am

I remember seeing comments from shitheads on social media wishing Greta Thunberg should have been shot by Breivik.

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:45:22am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall hearing that MTG and MG had raked in $1.6m and $1m respectively

They’re gonna need something to pay the lawyers with.

//

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:47:50am
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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:48:11am

Ronny fondling the grape again?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:48:59am

re: #103 sagehen

Does the presence of Liz Cheney not make it automatically bi-partisan?

No, because as CNN GOP apologist Scott Jennings explained, Cheney is not a Republican in good standing. Jordan and Banks, both of whom made it clear that they were going to sabotage the hearings, are in good standing.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:50:43am

re: #197 Dangerman

I understand the cillizza op-ed didn’t stay up long before it was pulled

And most every other sane opinion after that was pro pelosi

Good to know.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:52:11am
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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 7:54:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:00:18am

re: #249 electrotek

Ten years ago the far right Anders Breivik killed 77 people in Norway. The real threat to our lives and freedoms comes from the far right, not footballers talking the knee.

“…when in 2009, the Department of Homeland Security reported that white supremacy is the US’s biggest threat for domestic terror, it was met with harsh criticism. Conservatives blasted the department for defining terror threats too broadly, instead of focusing on potential Islamic terrorists.” Then-House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) was one of those who berated DHS, saying that they weren’t focusing on the real threats the US faces:

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:00:25am

Also, we should never forget that Pat Buchanan once argued in an op-ed on WorldNetDaily that “…Breivik may be right”.

We should also never forget that Glenn Beck once compared the island retreat to a Hitler Youth camp, and didn’t once apologize for it.

Morrissey infamously downplayed the attack, arguing that the consumption of meat is worse than the gross slaughter of children at a concert in Warsaw when the bodies are still warm.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:02:03am

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The standard response: We’ve seen this movie before.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:02:36am

re: #256 electrotek

Morrissey is the saddest prick of the three mentioned, and that is saying a lot…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:05:28am

re: #244 coin operated

Hunt for Red October was OK

Hunt for Red October was the best of the Clancy novelized movies - Baldwin was perfect as Jack Ryan.

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:05:43am

At least 10 years later, we don’t ever hear of Pamela Geller or Robert Spencer any more.

The latter spends most of his time whining about how he is mistaken for Richard on Twitter.

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:05:54am
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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:07:27am

Think being a customer service representative teleworking at home is fun?

Read this…

“We’re Not Allowed to Hang Up”: The Harsh Reality of Working in Customer Service

propublica.org

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:10:20am

re: #189 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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steve_davis  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:11:00am

re: #90 JOE 🥓

I prefer Bosco!

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Video

Duff Beer for me, Duff Beer for you, I’ll have a Duff, You’ll have one too.

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JC1  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:11:22am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ten years ago the far right Anders Breivik killed 77 people in Norway. The real threat to our lives and freedoms comes from the far right, not footballers talking the knee.

“…when in 2009, the Department of Homeland Security reported that white supremacy is the US’s biggest threat for domestic terror, it was met with harsh criticism. Conservatives blasted the department for defining terror threats too broadly, instead of focusing on potential Islamic terrorists.” Then-House Minority Leader Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) was one of those who berated DHS, saying that they weren’t focusing on the real threats the US faces:

And the DHS under BO’s leadership backed down in the face of GOP’s histrionics, and got clobbered in 2010 anyway.

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ericblair  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:11:32am

re: #257 Hecuba’s daughter

The standard response: We’ve seen this movie before.

A little more seriously, they were found in what used to be extreme conditions and the ones already identified are bacterial viruses. In general, though, global warming is uncovering a lot of stuff that was frozen for centuries and is better off remaining that way.

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steve_davis  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:12:39am

re: #93 Targetpractice

Been there, done that. Given my experience, the excuses will range from “I didn’t know I was supposed to work that shift!” to “I overslept!” to my personal favorite “I had a family emergency and couldn’t get to a phone!”

“Yeah, well, you are having a family emergency now where you can’t get to your job, ‘cause you’re fired.”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:13:03am
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TedStriker  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:20:49am

re: #264 steve_davis

Duff Beer for me, Duff Beer for you, I’ll have a Duff, You’ll have one too.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:24:57am

Well look who got a visit from COVID!

Florida AG Moody tests positive for COVID days after being with DeSantis in Texas

miamiherald.com

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:26:03am

re: #233 Dangerman

only “guys”?

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Fine, where do I find his verifiable source data?

Edited to add “verifiable”.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:27:06am

re: #270 JOE 🥓

It’s a breakthrough infection as she was vaccinated.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:29:45am

Another slap on the wrist for a proud boy…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:30:25am

re: #273 JOE 🥓

Another slap on the wrist for a proud boy…

quite disheartening

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:31:15am

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:31:16am
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No Malarkey!  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:33:27am

re: #254 electrotek

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No Malarkey!  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:36:32am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

quite disheartening

Don’t be. This in no way presages the sentences that Proud Boys charged with serious felonies will receive.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:38:23am

re: #276 electrotek

Armenian artist painted Breivik with Nazi salute. Except being utter disrespect to 77 victims of the terrorist attack committed 10 years ago in Norway, it reflects prevailing fascist & racist ideology within Armenian society promoted by [Armenian] Gov-t.

I guess as victims of genocide they have decided that the best defense is to get proactive about genociding others first…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:39:26am

re: #278 No Malarkey!

Don’t be. This in now way presages the sentences that Proud Boys charged with serious felonies will receive.

yeah, but six months won’t be nearly long enough for him to write his Mein Kampf biography…

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:40:48am

Pete Wilson still defending Prop. 187 and fighting for a better place in history.

Pete your place in history is sealed in epoxy. Congratulations because you’re the guy who killed the Republican Party in California!

latimes.com

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:40:50am

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I guess as victims of genocide they have decided that the best defense is to get proactive about genociding others first…

I had to do some digging as this was spread by Azerbaijani users so I wanted to make sure this isn’t some tit-for-tat mudslinging in light of the current status of Artsakh.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:43:02am

The Price is Right “Losing Horn”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:45:37am

Anybody know what kind of flowers there are? It’s driving my mother crazy

:

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:45:56am

Also, they don’t believe in commas.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:46:07am

re: #284 Eric The Fruit Bat

Carnations.

Selectively bread to be “doubles”.

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:46:44am

re: #243 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

Breaks my heart

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this here is some fiscal responsibility:

NEW: Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene’s nationwide fundraising tour has been a bust, raising less than $60,000 in two months and spending about four times that amount.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:50:12am

re: #286 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My 86-yr old mother slaps her thigh and says: “That’s what they are!” after I told her.

Thanks.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:50:44am

LMAO!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:52:26am

(CNN)House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering naming GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger to join the select committee investigating the deadly January 6 insurrection at the US Capitol.

During a news conference on Capitol Hill on Thursday morning, Pelosi said, “We’ll see,” when asked about the potential appointment. “I mean, there are some members that would like to be on it,” Pelosi added. “But, we’ll see.”

Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat who’s been appointed chairman of the new committee, said Thursday that adding Kinzinger to the panel has been discussed with the speaker. Thompson said if Pelosi signs off, Kinzinger will be a “welcome addition.”

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:53:34am
Speaker Nancy Pelosi is considering inviting former Rep. Denver Riggleman (R-VA) to serve as an adviser to the House select committee investigating the January 6 riots, ABC News reports.

that’s some outside the chamber thinking

this woman is clever-brilliant

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No Malarkey!  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:54:51am
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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:54:52am

re: #257 Hecuba’s daughter

The standard response: We’ve seen this movie before.

I’m curious which movies.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:56:47am

tears…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:58:16am

re: #288 Eric The Fruit Bat

Carnations are a staple of the floriculture industry, because they can be harvested just as the flowers open, and the cut flowers will finish opening (many plants won’t do this - you have to keep the flower on the plant to get it to open.)

Plus the cut flowers last well in the normal household environment.

And they smell. I am not particularly fond the odor, but I also don’t find it objectionable.

Plus they can reproduce like crazy.

The genus Dianthus lends itself well to cultivation, so if you have a garden I recommend them. Come in all sizes, an any shade of magenta (and white.)

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 8:59:57am

re: #291 Dangerman

that’s some outside the chamber thinking

this woman is clever-brilliant

She can build a sane Republican party. :)

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:03:26am

re: #295 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Carnations are a staple of the floriculture industry, because they can be harvested just as the flowers open, and the cut flowers will finish opening (many plants won’t do this - you have to keep the flower on the plant to get it to open.)

Plus the cut flowers last well in the normal household environment.

And they smell. I am not particularly fond the odor, but I also don’t find it objectionable.

Plus they can reproduce like crazy.

The genus Dianthus lends itself well to cultivation, so if you have a garden I recommend them. Come in all sizes, an any shade of magenta (and white.)

You live near a great flower grower. Fred Clarke. He does exotic Orchids and commercial flowers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:04:58am

re: #297 Rightwingconspirator

You live near a great flower grower. Fred Clarke. He does exotic Orchids and commercial flowers.

Yes, Fred is one of the few orchid breeders with a business still going in SoCal. I remember him from many years ago, when he (and I) were much younger, from the San Diego County Orchid Society shows.

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jeffreyw  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:06:10am

re: #284 Eric The Fruit Bat

Anybody know what kind of flowers there are? It’s driving my mother crazy

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:

Is that.. Brawndo?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:09:47am

re: #282 electrotek

I had to do some digging as this was spread by Azerbaijani users so I wanted to make sure this isn’t some tit-for-tat mudslinging in light of the current status of Artsakh.

I don’t know if you’ve followed Azeri Twitter since Artsakh kicked off again, but a big part of it is rampant nationalism of the variety that mocked Armenians for claiming current war crimes. It’s also pretty hard to tell what’s a bot versus an actual person, because Azeribaijan has been followed the Turkish mode of having a twitter army.

Just generally, I wouldn’t use anything on Twitter as indicative of anything unless there’s an entire article that explains what’s going on.

And even if it’s a person it’s still a kind of bad faith to respond to the remembrance of Utoya by turning that story into another reason to be mad at the people you’re already at war with.

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:10:21am
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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:12:11am

I like this take:

Labor isn’t striking. Businesses are refusing to participate in a capitalist system.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:12:30am

re: #281 JOE 🥓

Pete Wilson still defending Prop. 187 and fighting for a better place in history.

Pete your place in history is sealed in epoxy. Congratulations because you’re the guy who killed the Republican Party in California!

latimes.com

I was a Community College math tutor making $4.25/hour when that passed. As written, if I failed to report a “suspected illegal alien”, I would have been a felon. Nothing about coming into contact in my official duties, but rather I was supposed to be deputized as a 24/7 fascist immigration agent. Furthermore, what defines a “suspected illegal alien”? Skin tone? Accent? Whether intentional or not, that law made felons out of most of the State work force unless we acted like the most racist pieces of shit imaginable. I’m still ashamed that it passed, even with the silver lining of being the beginning of the end of the GOP in California.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:15:16am

re: #298 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, Fred is one of the few orchid breeders with a business still going in SoCal. I remember him from many years ago, when he (and I) were much younger, from the San Diego County Orchid Society shows.

I suspect we have many old friends in common.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:15:17am

re: #293 Belafon

I’m curious which movies.

The Blob, The Thing

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:16:12am

re: #305 No Malarkey!

The Blob, The Thing

The X-Files episode “Ice” also featured a “the Thing” inspired plot about killer alien worms discovered deep under the ice where a meteor had crashed.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:17:05am

re: #281 JOE 🥓

Pete Wilson still defending Prop. 187 and fighting for a better place in history.

Pete your place in history is sealed in epoxy. Congratulations because you’re the guy who killed the Republican Party in California!

latimes.com

A fossilized anus. Even when I was a Republican (ca. 1985), I thought the Cal Repugs were some of the meanest and greediest people I had ever run across. They would literally have let migrant children (and many others but migrants especially) starve to death or die of simple illnesses rather than see their taxes go up (indeed, fail to go down) or their property values disturbed. They were very proud of saying so, too. With the influx of tax refugees here in Texas, the yokel Repugs have caught up with, and even surpassed them, in pure, sadistic cruelty.

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garzooma  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:17:28am

re: #300 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t know if you’ve followed Azeri Twitter since Artsakh kicked off again, but a big part of it is rampant nationalism of the variety that mocked Armenians for claiming current war crimes. It’s also pretty hard to tell what’s a bot versus an actual person, because Azeribaijan has been followed the Turkish mode of having a twitter army.

[…]

Here’s a Guardian article on this:

Karimli said state officials had copied the idea of a troll factory from Russia. He estimated the regime employed about 10,000 full-time trolls. They were physically located in the capital Baku and spread out inside the youth branch of the YAP, as well as in the interior ministry and state-funded NGOs.
[…]
The use of trolls to produce comments that praise the ruling party and criticize the opposition is “one of the social tools of authoritarianism”, said a researcher who studies technology and dissent in the region. The Guardian agreed not to name the researcher because they have been the target of coordinated online harassment and abuse over their work
[…]
Despite this evidence that an authoritarian regime was violating Facebook’s rules in order to suppress dissent - a situation which should have qualified the campaign for a CIB takedown - Facebook abandoned work on the investigation in March 2020, and only resumed it in August in response to complaints by Zhang inside the company.
[…]
By the time Facebook announced its takedown of more than 8,000 Facebook and Instagram accounts and Pages in October, Azerbaijan was fighting a war with Armenia over the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, which only increased the online abuse, according to Fatima Karimova, who runs Mikroskop Media with her husband, Javid. “We faced insults and threats, not just from trolls but also by ordinary people,” she said.

The couple - both journalists - set up Mikroskop Media three years ago after fleeing Azerbaijan. They are currently based in Latvia.

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:18:20am

re: #300 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t know if you’ve followed Azeri Twitter since Artsakh kicked off again, but a big part of it is rampant nationalism of the variety that mocked Armenians for claiming current war crimes. It’s also pretty hard to tell what’s a bot versus an actual person, because Azeribaijan has been followed the Turkish mode of having a twitter army.

Just generally, I wouldn’t use anything on Twitter as indicative of anything unless there’s an entire article that explains what’s going on.

And even if it’s a person it’s still a kind of bad faith to respond to the remembrance of Utoya by turning that story into another reason to be mad at the people you’re already at war with.

Yeah I avoid Azeri Twitter because of the shitpile it has become since the events of Artsakh.

But I did find that painting is unfortunately real and was done for an Armenian exhibit two years ago.

Անդերս Բրեյվիկը ոգեշնչման աղբյուր՝ հայ նկարչի համար

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:29:27am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:34:20am

Here’s yer periodic Ozzie pic - this one was after he came back from the groomers for a non-lion cut trim:

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:38:10am

re: #310 JOE 🥓

And the Asshole Of The Day Award goes to…

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Stew Peters is getting Stu-peter all the time.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:39:10am

re: #311 Eric The Fruit Bat

Here’s yer periodic Ozzie pic - this one was after he came back from the groomers for a non-lion cut trim:

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That look!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:44:36am

re: #313 Rightwingconspirator

That look!

This little bastard will be 18 in September - pretty long span for a Persian.

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:46:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:46:50am

re: #313 Rightwingconspirator

That look!

it says: soooon

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:47:09am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:49:03am

re: #310 JOE 🥓

And the Asshole Of The Day Award goes to…

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All of these guys have such punchable faces.

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electrotek  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:57:29am
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dat_said  Jul 22, 2021 • 9:59:40am

re: #302 Belafon

I like this take:

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Labor isn’t striking. Businesses are refusing to participate in a capitalist system.

I’m waiting for when the corporate world will try to eliminate work from home They’re going to quickly learn that a percentage of the employees will say “no thanks”.

They’ll also learn it isn’t about how they think of wages either. I think back to that article last week foolishly trying to show that a couple in Manhattan making $400k was “middle class”. Folks are going to do the math on both time and costs and conclude that the family will be better off if the spouse that was making the smaller salary of $150k or $60k takes a work-from-anywhere job at $100k or $40k from a more flexible company (or no job at all). Some people have learned to treasure not spending an hour or two a day in commute.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:03:10am

re: #301 Belafon

They all love them some unregulated Free Market until market forces drive up the price of labor, then the whole economy is going to fall apart because we cannot stuff ourselves on eight dollars worth of fast food that takes five minutes to order

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:05:35am

re: #319 electrotek

I recently read that “no one” associated Anders Breivik’s murder spree with misogyny at the time. jane clare jones did

I am sure that in many of these cases, the murders could have been averted if the perpetrator had somehow gotten laid at some point in the preceding five years…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:07:23am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that in many of these cases, the murders could have been averted if the perpetrator had somehow gotten laid at some point in the preceding five years…

You may be on to something.

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Belafon  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:08:56am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that in many of these cases, the murders could have been averted if the perpetrator had somehow gotten laid at some point in the preceding five years…

I doubt it. And it’s on them as to why they are that way.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:09:37am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that in many of these cases, the murders could have been averted if the perpetrator had somehow gotten laid at some point in the preceding five years…

Feeding them to a woodchipper would do the same without the need for sex workers to serve incel sociopaths.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:10:05am

Awwwww. Crackhead Mike’s fee fees hurt cause nobody wants to take him up on his $5 million challenge!

C’mon folks! Mike’s become a human lotto ticket. Go Get Crackhead Mike’s Money!

Mike Lindell is mad because everyone is ignoring his cyber symposium

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:12:25am

re: #324 Belafon

I doubt it. And it’s on them as to why they are that way.

the two factors are inter-related and self-reinforcing

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Teukka  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:16:47am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that in many of these cases, the murders could have been averted if the perpetrator had somehow gotten laid at some point in the preceding five years…

re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg

You may be on to something.

re: #324 Belafon

I doubt it. And it’s on them as to why they are that way.

I think that the reason they don’t get laid might simply be that whatever views they hold has made them so toxic that they can’t.

re: #325 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Feeding them to a woodchipper would do the same without the need for sex workers to serve incel sociopaths.

Stop that. Think of the poor woodchippers… Like, what have woodchippers done to deserve such a cruel fate?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:18:38am

re: #328 Teukka

I think that the reason they don’t get laid might simply be that whatever views they hold has made them so toxic that they can’t.

Marjorie Taylor-Greene and Laurie Boebert would probably give it up for Brevik.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:20:48am

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:24:01am

re: #187 No Malarkey!

Good thread on how the mainstream media accept GOP corruption as a given, and only Democrats as having agency deserving of scrutiny.

I forgot what Cilizza said about Benghazi.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:25:06am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that in many of these cases, the murders could have been averted if the perpetrator had somehow gotten laid at some point in the preceding five years…

Eeeehhhh…no.

Incel-dom is a symptom not the cause, even if these shitheads attribute their position to their lack of sex. Lots of people are involuntarily celibate…and not just because they feel awkward, but because of stuff like physical and psychological trauma…and that doesn’t turn into aggression or misogyny.

Many of these guys, when they say “I can’t get laid” what they’re really communicating is that either they can’t put forward the effort to connect with another person even enough to have casual sex, or they have a complex in which “sex” represents all the deference and awe they believe themselves entitled to and thus they don’t actually enjoy either normal sex—where hopefully you’re responsive to your partner/partners—or transactional sex—because they believe they’re owed something, paying for sex is an indignity.

It’s kind of like how serial killers often experience depression in prison…because they can’t murder people to achieve gratification…or have difficult relationships with their mom…the person most likely to first notice they have antisocial impulses and attempt to correct them. On the surface, these traits make serial killers seem understandable, but it’s a false correlation: when you open up the box, look at why, the sense of correlation disappears. The same outcome is reached but via an entirely different failure of the mechanism.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:25:35am

re: #325 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Feeding them to a woodchipper would do the same without the need for sex workers to serve incel sociopaths.

It would be an interesting experiment to see if legalized prostitution would reduce mass shootings. One of the worst happened in Nevada, however. I think an assault weapon ban would be more effective.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:27:27am

re: #196 JOE 🥓

No matter how I try my brainwashed family insists that I live in a Muslim “No-Go” zone where sharia law is implemented and the police dare not go.

For the record I live in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles…and the LAPD is ALWAYS here!

LOL I worked in Dearborn from 1998-2018, including at a building that displayed the flag of Israel.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:31:43am

re: #331 The Pie Overlord!

I forgot what Cilizza said about Benghazi.

Oh I still remember when he endlessly attacked Hillary and recited the GOP talking points like a Chatty Cathy doll.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:32:34am

re: #332 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah I can certainly understand how women wouldn’t be too likely to want to put out for a guy who thinks women are property, should always be submissive to men, should be barefoot and pregnant whenever possible and always on call to “make me a damn sandwich!”.

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:34:06am

re: #320 dat_said

I’m waiting for when the corporate world will try to eliminate work from home They’re going to quickly learn that a percentage of the employees will say “no thanks”.

They’ll also learn it isn’t about how they think of wages either. I think back to that article last week foolishly trying to show that a couple in Manhattan making $400k was “middle class”. Folks are going to do the math on both time and costs and conclude that the family will be better off if the spouse that was making the smaller salary of $150k or $60k takes a work-from-anywhere job at $100k or $40k from a more flexible company (or no job at all). Some people have learned to treasure not spending an hour or two a day in commute.

plus i wonder how many companies right now are paying their work at home employees for the dedicated floor / desk space, heat, a/c, internet, phone usage and other intangibles. (or tangibles)

this is not a zero sum offset by reduced commuting expenses. how many businesses were paying for that before?

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Dangerman  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:34:48am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They all love them some unregulated Free Market until market forces drive up the price of labor, then the whole economy is going to fall apart because we cannot stuff ourselves on eight dollars worth of fast food that takes five minutes to order affect them directly

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:51:36am

re: #326 JOE 🥓

Awwwww. Crackhead Mike’s fee fees hurt cause nobody wants to take him up on his $5 million challenge!

C’mon folks! Mike’s become a human lotto ticket. Go Get Crackhead Mike’s Money!

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I had no idea there was that much money to be made in the wingnut pillow market?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 22, 2021 • 10:57:30am

re: #339 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

I had no idea there was that much money to be made in the wingnut pillow market?

If you can grift even a small segment of wingnuts, it can add up to real money. This is why people advertise useless products like awful “food buckets,” lumpy pillows, and overpriced gold on right-wing authoritarian media. Every listener/viewer who’s not there for the lulz or to document for RightWingWatch is a complete dumbass who exists to be fleeced by any Republican who can push some kind of useless product out the door.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 22, 2021 • 11:15:29am

re: #229 electrotek

How many Trump supporters fantasize about doing to antifa what Breivik did to the kids at Utoya?

All of them, Katie.


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