Lorde and Jack Antonoff: “Solar Power” (Rooftop Performance)

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A great little initimate performance on a rooftop. I’ll always love jams like this more than the (sometimes over-) produced album versions.

Shot on the Roof of Electric Lady Studios in New York in July 2021 with Jack Antonoff.
New album Solar Power out August 20th, 2021, pre-order now: https://lorde.lnk.to/SPAlbum\

The Solar Power Tour is on sale now - get dates and tickets: https://www.lorde.co.nz/tour

Sign up to the Solar Power Institute Bulletin: https://www.lorde.co.nz/sign-up

Additional Credits:
Directed and Shot by Ashlan Grey
Gaffer: Alex Mallis
Edited and colored by Henock Sileshi
Recorded by John Rooney
Mixed by Laura Sisk

Website: https://www.lorde.co.nz/
Tour Dates: https://www.lorde.co.nz/tour
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Lorde - Solar Power (Lyrics)

I hate the winter
Can’t stand the cold
I tend to cancel all the plans (so sorry, I can’t make it)
But when the heat comes
Something takes a hold
Can I kick it? Yeah, I can

My cheeks in high colour, overripe peaches
No shirt, no shoes, only my features
My boy behind me, he’s taking pictures
Lead the boys and girls onto the beaches
Come one, come all, I’ll tell you my secrets
I’m kinda like a prettier Jesus

Forget all of the tears that you’ve cried, it’s over (over, over, over)
It’s a new state of mind — are you coming, my baby?

Acid green, aquamarine
The girls are dancing in the sand
And I throw my cellular device in the water
Can you reach me? No, you can’t

Turn it on in a new kind of bright, it’s solar (solar, solar, solar)
Come on and let the bliss begin
Blink three times when you feel it kickin’ in
That solar power

#Lorde #SolarPower

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282 comments
1
Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2021 • 5:52:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2021 • 5:54:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2021 • 5:57:49pm

niterz, lizardz!

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JOE 🥓  Jul 31, 2021 • 5:58:17pm

NOTHING will shake the DC Press Corpse from their obsession with “both-siderism”! They will still continue to regurgitate the bullshit Republicans force feed them!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:03:39pm

Lorde Drops the Mic While Eating Spicy Wings | Hot Ones

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Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:07:36pm

re: #5 Barefoot Grin

This is great. She chows down on the hottest wings without even flinching. Go ahead girl.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:09:47pm

Another band I haven’t heard of before, Bent Knee. This one’s definitely a little different:

BENT KNEE - Bone Rage (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:31:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:31:28pm

re: #197 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Speaking of F and C…

I used to dislike Celsius as a measurement because it was less precise than Fahrenheit. 10 degrees change in Celsius is 18 degrees change in Fahrenheit. I have a similar issue with Kg vs Lbs in terms of precision. When someone gives me a weight measured in Kilograms I’m always thinking… at least one digit after the decimal point please!

Then I realized every 10 degrees in Celsius around the average “room” temp matches up to a different way of me feeling about the temp and it seemed perfect.

-273 - 9 Might as well be on Pluto
10-19 Too Cold
20-29 Fine
30-39 Too Hot
40+ Surface of the goddamn Sun

(moved from the previous thread)

LOL, the same reason we have our bathroom scale set to weigh in stone. Only takes a little while to get used to.

Today, I weigh 8. Same as yesterday or the day before. 7 would definitely be dangerous, and 9 is right out for me.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:33:58pm

“And now you want us to take personal responsibility for our health, like your authoritarian impulses are out of control?”

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:35:33pm

Well I must admit this was pretty easy to set up. And register for free at Wunderground.
Weather at my place.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:40:05pm

re: #8 jaunte

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:40:57pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s Moby Grape!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:42:59pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:45:33pm
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DesertDenizen  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:46:25pm

re: #14 Dread Pirate Ron

To Republicans, jokes about casual violence towards women are funny. Sociopaths, one and all.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:48:27pm

re: #15 Dread Pirate Ron

Maybe we can get Scott Kelly to run.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2021 • 6:58:47pm

re: #5 Barefoot Grin

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I loved this spice video. As for the thread-title song, I know Jack is amazing, but Lorde has that thing that all great vocalists have—that ability to so artfully hit the beats and then dance around them with their unique timbre and range.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:01:08pm

re: #17 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Pity Gabby isn’t up to it. She was fantastic, and husband and wife Senators would be cool.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:03:56pm

re: #17 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Maybe we can get Scott Kelly to run.

NO DIENASTIES!!

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ckkatz  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:05:22pm

It’s summer in Iceland and the temperature is a sweltering… checks chart… 65degF

.

The Drifters - Under the Boardwalk

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retired cynic  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:07:59pm

re: #21 ckkatz

It’s summer in Iceland and the temperature is sweltering… checks chart… 65degF

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It’s the volcano, heating it up.

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No Malarkey!  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:13:59pm
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ckkatz  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:14:46pm

re: #21 ckkatz

By the way, iirc, the pool where everybody is hanging out is geothermally heated to about 100degF. The sea, in the summer, is in the high 50’s to low 60s (again F). [And around freezing in the winter.]

en.wikipedia.org

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:16:37pm

re: #20 Belafon

NO DIENASTIES!!

I know you are just kidding/sarcing there, and under normal circumstanced I’d agree with that statement but…

This isn’t a parent/child relationship. They didn’t get into politics at a young age/weren’t looking for that as a career. They are intelligent and understand science. They went to space riding on ballistic missiles, so they aren’t craven blowhards and are real American heroes. They will undoubtedly support NASA. They are genuinely nice guys.

I can’t see a down side. Assuming he’d even be interested. I’m not big on recruiting a “big name” if they aren’t into it.

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ckkatz  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:17:27pm

re: #22 retired cynic

It’s the volcano, heating it up.

Yes, what you say is basically correct. :)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:20:35pm

re: #21 ckkatz

The water may even be up to a balmy 50F.

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ckkatz  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:26:28pm

re: #5 Barefoot Grin

Apropos to nothing…

Iirc, in the 1940’s, there was a public health study on folks of Mexican descent on both sides of the Texas-Mexican border.

It turned out that the folks on the Mexican side were healthier. The study authors concluded that it was the use of traditional spices which contained a lot of vitamins.

On the Texas side, these foods had been abandoned for what was considered a more ‘American’ cuisine.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:32:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:32:36pm

re: #23 No Malarkey!

It is often very difficult for someone locked into the dogma of a religious faith (in Noem’s case, conservatism) to see the flaws of their religion’s assertions. Religions such as conservatism are also set up to deflect inconvenient truths about the falsehoods of their faith.

It’s why they keep trying “trickle-down” economics for over 140 years, just renaming it. Their faith can’t be wrong, they just need to recite their prayer with the right name.

It’s why you can’t shake their faith on a whole raft of issues from sex ed to welfare to vaccinations. Their prelates have interpreted their holy texts, and they will preach to the faithful, regardless of how much they have to lie about the real world to maintain their faith.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:36:21pm

re: #25 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Agree. Mine was about what people were saying about the Clintons, and I agree with your assessment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:37:32pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:39:23pm

re: #28 ckkatz

Apropos to nothing…

Iirc, in the 1940’s, there was a public health study on folks of Mexican descent on both sides of the Texas-Mexican border.

It turned out that the folks on the Mexican side were healthier. The study authors concluded that it was the use of traditional spices which contained a lot of vitamins.

On the Texas side, these foods had been abandoned for what was considered a more ‘American’ cuisine.

Do you remember how HRC talked about eating hot sauce every day as part of her health regimen after it was leaked and predictably the Jack Posobiecs made it some kind of “here’s another satanic thing HRC does” issue?

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ckkatz  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:41:22pm

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The water may even be up to a balmy 50F.

Back in the 1970’s I was in Ashdod Israel for a time during what passes for winter there. It got down to the 40’s at night and (when the sun was out) the 60’s during the day. The locals were all huddled in their winter jackets. The Scandinavian tourists were comfortably walking in short sleeve shirts.

I must admit that, as I have grown older, freezing my butt in cold water is not high up on my list of preferred activities.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:41:32pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:42:39pm

There are at least as many sh*tty people in Youtube comments that there are on Twitter. I can’t count the number of times I’ve come across stupid comments on otherwise serious videos, and when checking the commenter’s own channel I find they subscribe to the usual idiocy (Veritas, Shapiro, Fox News, etc.)

I wish Youtube channel creators would not be so hesitant to kick-n-ban commenters.

I have noticed that many government and academic channels do not allow comments.

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sagehen  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:43:09pm

re: #14 Dread Pirate Ron

Dems need to ask police chiefs and FOPs around the country to speak up for those cops.

Fighting for their lives, hand-to-hand, for hours. Outnumbered 100 to 1. No backup, most of them had no vests or helmets, being hit with pipes and shields and bear spray and barriers, while many of the attackers are in full tactical gear… 140 injured, a dozen of them six months later still aren’t medically fit to return to duty… and these thin blue line fuckers dare to criticize them for being emotional about it?

So much for backing the blue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:44:55pm

I’m going to be so fucking pissed if Mccarthy becomes Speaker.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:45:20pm

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There are at least as many sh*tty people in Youtube comments that there are on Twitter. I can’t count the number of times I’ve come across stupid comments on otherwise serious videos, and when checking the commenter’s own channel I find they subscribe to the usual idiocy (Veritas, Shapiro, Fox News, etc.)

I wish Youtube channel creators would not be so hesitant to kick-n-ban commenters.

I have noticed that many government and academic channels do not allow comments.

YouTube comments have always been stupid. While other people were reading on the Internet, YouTubers were looking to find something like TV to veg in front of.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:50:10pm

It’s official: LGBT+ has been killed in our proposed voluntary sex education standards.

Their religious faith (Christianity and conservatism) required opponents to lie about what the proposed standards would teach (LGBT+ people exist) and how they would be implemented (voluntarily).

Every Christian sect in this state was opposed to them except the UU’s, and the UU Church stayed out of it (both-siding it with a “that’s just an individual opinion man”).

Keep hooking yourselves ever tighter in young people’s minds as a faith as intolerant as the Taliban’s version of Islam and tied to the Republican Party with a cord of steel. It hastens your demise (if we don’t get a theocracy first).

Nebraska largely scraps gender identity lessons after uproar (Associated Press)

Sure though, it’s the property taxes driving young people out of our state.

Liberals have to organise better against concerted conservative and Christian propaganda.

Right-wing Christians are already busy with their apologists calling left-wing Christians “Christian atheists” to render their opinions irrelevant to Christian theology.

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Nebraska education officials announced Thursday that they have largely scrapped plans for gender identity lessons in public school curriculum after an uproar from conservatives who argued that the topics weren’t appropriate for children.

The new draft of the proposed sexual standards from the Nebraska Department of Education came after agency officials faced intense criticism from parents, school boards, state lawmakers and Republican Gov. Pete Ricketts, who held town hall events to blast the proposal. Opponents flooded a meeting of the Nebraska State Board of Education, an elected board that oversees the agency.

(more)

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ckkatz  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:52:52pm

This may explain a lot about the “Stop The Steal” Movement:

Former president Donald Trump’s political committees raised $82 million in the first six months of the year and have $102 million on hand, according to filings made public on Saturday.

…snip…

Since leaving office, Trump has continued to vigorously solicit donations from supporters, based mostly on false claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election. His fundraising eclipsed that of his party’s House and Senate campaign arms, and was outpaced only slightly by the Republican National Committee, which raised $84 million in the first half of the year.

washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:55:37pm

re: #41 ckkatz

This may explain a lot about the “Stop The Steal” Movement:

All that money he’s getting the GOP isn’t. I’m fine with him grifting from his supporters and weakening the GOP. So much the better the GOP seems to be fine with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:57:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 7:59:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:11:30pm

The eastern Pacific tropics are starting to get lively, as Tropical Depression 9-E forms and may become a threat to Hawai’i, Hurricane Hilda forms and is intensifying rapidly just behind it, and Disturbance 1 just behind that is expected to become a tropical depression.

nhc.noaa.gov

Tropical Depression 9-E is now on the Central Pacific Hurricane Center map.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:12:51pm

Speaking of volcanos heating Iceland, let’s check in with our ever-growing baby-shield volcano and see how it is doing:

Yup, Iceland is back to being dreary after two whole days of sunshine. But that doesn’t stop the lava, which just keeps on rolling.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:16:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:21:38pm

Now for something different (6:36)

Insane Hubless Bicycle

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:27:51pm

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Now for something different (6:36)

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Video

I don’t know. Seems like too much weight on the front rim. Don’t trust it and not sure what advantage it would be. Cool video though.

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steve_davis  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:28:02pm

I need to buy my cat a sports bra….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:31:11pm

re: #50 steve_davis

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I need to buy my cat a sports bra….

You could just refer your cat to all the YouTube lingerie adverts I’m getting for small-chested, small cup size women. /s

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CleverToad  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:37:56pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #171 calochortus

Yesterday was a day for good news, I see :)
From two threads back, or maybe three, as I try to catch up with this chatty crowd

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:41:58pm

Another legal complaint has been filed by a Hindu lawyer against Atheist Republic for Susanna’s blasphemous art drawing of Kali-ma. A complaint was also filed against Facebook and Twitter officials in both India and the United States, who are allegedly conniving with Atheist Republic to post illegal and malicious content.

They claim Facebook, Twitter, and Atheist Republic are in violation of India’s new blasphemy law.

Facebook and Twitter both deleted the image from India social media, but that is not good enough. Atheist Republic’s members were already kicked off Facebook and Twitter (though their main account isn’t) for offending the religious sensibilities of others (atheists exist).

This is the first time Susanna was actually physically served with a legal complaint (from India to Michigan).

(23:29)

ANOTHER Legal Complaint Against Atheist Activist for Hindu Goddess Art

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:45:00pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Yeah, let me know when you have authority here, India.”

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DesertDenizen  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:47:42pm

re: #54 Belafon

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Republicans siding with India against the atheists. They’ve never considered us citizens.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:50:14pm

re: #54 Belafon

“Yeah, let me know when you have authority here, India.”

They are ordering Facebook India to file criminal charges against the founder of Atheist Republic (using their own money).

re: #55 DesertDenizen

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Republicans siding with India against the atheists. They’ve never considered us citizens.

Yup.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:51:40pm

re: #55 DesertDenizen

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Republicans siding with India against the atheists. They’ve never considered us citizens.

They want us dead. So do Hindus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:55:27pm

The Blasphemous Art Project (NSFW, goes to Atheist Republic)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2021 • 8:57:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 9:00:26pm

re: #54 Belafon

“Yeah, let me know when you have authority here, India.”

They don’t need authority. All they need is to hassle with India government funds social media companies, and out go the atheists. It’s not worth the hassle for their profit margins to defend American laws on free speech and freedom of religion.

The lawsuit also goes after their IP for their Website, and any other person who promotes their Website or artwork (I’m not sure how they would enforce the last, except by maybe scaring others into not wanting the hassle of atheists on their platforms).

For example, say the Government of India decides to go after our Esteemed Host, Mr. Johnson, for the link I just posted above. They also go after his Webhosting service.

Does Mr. Johnson go to all the expense of responding “fuque off” to the Government of India (which has already demonstrated they will do physical legal service to the United States for violations of their blasphemy laws), or does he simply boot me off because it’s not worth the hassle and would likely bankrupt him if he tried to defend me?

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2021 • 9:05:21pm

re: #5 Barefoot Grin

I love this show. Guy asks great questions, and it’s fun watching the hot wing struggle.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2021 • 9:13:15pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was unaware that Indian law applied here in the United States.

Time for the US courts to issue a good old-fashioned pimphand slapdown to India and tell them, “LOL you have a blasphemy law. That’s cute. Meanwhile, here in the United States, you can take your blasphemy law and blow it out your ass.”

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DesertDenizen  Jul 31, 2021 • 9:39:14pm

re: #62 Dr Lizardo

While that’s the obviously correct legal answer, I don’t trust that they won’t find right wing judges who are happy to stick it to atheists.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 31, 2021 • 9:50:19pm

re: #63 DesertDenizen

While that’s the obviously correct legal answer, I don’t trust that they won’t find right wing judges who are happy to stick it to atheists.

Oh they will. McConnell made sure of that.

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JOE 🥓  Jul 31, 2021 • 10:23:23pm

Endgame.

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DesertDenizen  Jul 31, 2021 • 10:37:15pm

re: #65 JOE 🥓

Back before I had to start taking lots of meds I was a donor for ECMO purposes. They called me 56 days after each donation making sure I was coming in. Saving premature babies and getting a cookie was more than worth it to me. I’m trying to feel bad about not being able to donate for pricks like Phil, but I just can’t manage to.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2021 • 10:52:56pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:03:27pm

re: #66 DesertDenizen

Back before I had to start taking lots of meds I was a donor for ECMO purposes. They called me 56 days after each donation making sure I was coming in. Saving premature babies and getting a cookie was more than worth it to me. I’m trying to feel bad about not being able to donate for pricks like Phil, but I just can’t manage to.

At least he apparently has repented of his anti-vax attitudes and his family urged his supporters to get vaccinated. A little late for this realization but maybe others will decide to take the shot.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:08:36pm

re: #65 JOE 🥓

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:11:26pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:12:34pm

re: #69 GlutenFreeJesus

High five!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:18:09pm

re: #63 DesertDenizen

While that’s the obviously correct legal answer, I don’t trust that they won’t find right wing judges who are happy to stick it to atheists.

I was away watching Elvira’s Movie Macabre: Count Dracula’s Great Love, a cinematic masterpiece from Spain made with a budget of ₧ 50,000 (about $500 at the time, mostly on props because it sure wasn’t on the acting).

As for US courts, I assume no court even with a wingnut judge is actually going to uphold India’s blasphemy law against Facebook and Twitter, or a random Michigander.

I presume the goal is to chill free speech.

While conservatives have been whingeing about being banned from platforms for a little light racism or harassment, there is a kernel of truth to their complaint about free speech and the liberals who argue “private companies, their rules.”

In our historically free-wheeling capitalist system, marginalised groups have had to fight for equal rights and access (and still are). When they do, those who are not affected will help oppose them just as much as the oppressors (mostly by looking the other way or telling them to pipe down about their own rights).

We’ve seen it over and over, with enslaved Africans, then suffragettes, then Natives trying to be declared human in US law, then Jim Crow, then equal rights for women, then LGBT, &c.

Recently in Tennessee, a Republican brought a bill to change their state constitution to remove the clause that prohibits clergy from serving in any elected office; the idea at the time was “they had a greater calling than the base affairs of politics.”

That clause also prohibits atheists from serving in any elected or appointed position.

The clause is currently unenforceable due to a Supreme Court decision, both the clergy clause and the atheist clause.

The bill the Republican brought only would repeal the section regarding clergy. When a Democratic legislator offered an amendment to repeal the section regarding atheists, the Republicans all voted it down, with variants on the idea that it could wait or it would “bog down the bill” (without explaining how).

It is now legal in Tennessee for clergy to be elected. Good, because that was openly discriminatory and un-Constitutional. It is still illegal (although unenforceable) for atheists to be elected.

All it would take though is one Supreme Court decision reversing their ruling rendering such clauses moot, and in seven states, laws would immediately snap back in banning atheists.

Religious bigots are much like white supremacists. They view the world as divided into spheres of influence: Europe and the Americas are Christian, North Africa and the Middle East are Muslim, Russia and the Balkans are Orthodox, South Asia is Hindu, Southeast Asia is Buddhist, and wars are fought on the margins of the areas which are not Christian.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:22:38pm

I attended an outdoor backyard party in Chicago Saturday night; there were at least 40 other guests, most of whom I had not previously met. It did make me nervous, though most (maybe all?) the guests were vaccinated. I wore a mask whenever entering the house, and during much of the time outside, but, of course, it only takes a short time of exposure to be infected by delta. Everyone there felt that Chicago was going to be shut down soon, courtesy of Lollapalooza currently in full swing through tomorrow evening. The concert certainly appears to be a superspreader event in the making. But our much smaller gathering could also be a problematic celebration.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:26:43pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

I hope everything turns out okay for your smaller gathering; hopefully everyone was vaccinated.

Lollapalooza is a freakin’ nightmare. It’s sort of like the Sturgis of Illinois for rock ‘n’ roll.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:28:31pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

They really weren’t even checking vaccine cards/test results at the entrances. We are fucked.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:35:24pm

re: #75 GlutenFreeJesus

They really weren’t even checking vaccine cards/test results at the entrances. We are fucked.

Who’s brilliant idea was it to hold a massive open-air festival in the middle of a pandemic?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:37:08pm

Watching some TV show intros and theme songs from the 1980’s and 1990’s, and I am glad I skipped watching TV in those decades. Actually, pretty much after 1978 I stopped watching TV save for the very rare events. It’s only been in the past decade or so of retirement that I’ve been going back and watching select shows and checking out the offerings here in the 21st century.

Anyway, my conclusion is that American TV in the 1980’s and 1990’s was pretty bad.

There are the exceptions, mostly late 90’s (X-Files, and before that Twin Peaks.)

One thing I noticed is that in the 1980’s in particular the opening theme music was gawd-awful l.o.n.g. Going on and on and on… and greatly influenced by disco.

I think the reason Twin Peaks stands out so much is that American TV had become quite stale after 5 decades.

With the eventual rise of cable networks replacing broadcast networks, the cable shows could cover topics that the prudish laws of American broadcast would not allow.

This refreshed the small screen creative space.

One thing about the 1980’s and 1990’s (and I will include late 1970’s shows too) is that they are trying too hard. Trying to be too hip, too contemporary, too… just too much.

And the thing is, on the whole they were just as non-real in portraying American life as those 1950’s shows we all like to pick on.

The need to be a happy-show with happy-faces with happy-families was a long trend in American TV that didn’t really go away until the 21st century. Even though there were TV shows in the 1980’s and 1990’s that had characters and plots of, say, broken families, the idea was that the characters would overcome (though hard work, the American way, and maybe an angel or alien.)

In the 21st century the small screen shows are more free to present darker dramas, though of course the drive is always there to sell the American Way as the source of happiness.

Now with the rise of “reality TV” the typical TV show has very little substance, and these shows are designed mostly around exploiting people and C-list celebs. Not really a cultural advancement (and I’d argue a step down from even Gilligan’s Island.)

American entertainment consumption has grown to be a major player in our economy. This was predicted a long time ago.

But the path we’ve taken over 7 decades of making the small screen our primary entertainment vehicle has plenty of ups and downs, though I think more downs than ups.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:42:23pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:44:57pm

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

(1:34)

The Mod Squad 1968 - 1973 Opening and Closing Theme

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:49:06pm

re: #78 DodgerFan1988

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:52:16pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, remember that. Billy May did some of the music. I do prefer in general the 1960’s TV theme music over the 1980’s theme music.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:53:07pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who’s brilliant idea was it to hold a massive open-air festival in the middle of a pandemic?

Before Delta, the numbers were all going in the right direction. Indeed, if the vaccination rate had continued at its original pace, we would not be facing this disaster now. It’s all on the willingly unvaccinated who allowed the disease to continue to rampage throughout the nation. If it weren’t for that, the festival would probably not be turning into a likely disaster.

OT - somewhat. Maybe I misinterpreted the story, but does Trump deserve much credit for Operation Warp Speed? Wasn’t the program designed by government bureaucrats and his only contribution was not vetoing their proposal?

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William Lewis  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:55:45pm

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Early 80’s, three words: Hill Street Blues

The only cop show ever worth watching.

ETA: The first 5 minutes.

Youtube Video

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2021 • 11:58:11pm

Getting back to the idea of reality-TV and contemporary shows: I find HGTV almost as offensive as Fox News.

HGTV shows are advertisements. The entire shows are advertisements. They are designed around pushing products that you, the viewer, deserve.

That word, “deserve”, is especially popular with Property Brothers (Scott and Drew.)

If you watch one of their shows, the entire 42 minutes is nothing but advertisements dressed up in sentimentality, sometimes so saccharine it is self-parody.

And the thing is, if one really is interested in architecture, design, and all around inhabiting-the-landscape, many of the HGTV shows are pretty bad at what they show, that is, the final product.

New and shiny does not mean good.

It reminds me of what was covered in the documentary Century of the Self.

HGTV is where consumerism has been optimized.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:03:26am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:08:37am

re: #83 William Lewis

Early 80’s, three words: Hill Street Blues

One of the shows the premiered in a January because of a writers’ strike in 1980.

It was a season (1980-1981) that was pretty vacuous as far as TV shows. In part because of the writer’s strike, but only in part. IMO American TV had been hurting for a couple of years prior. Hill Street Blues was the standout of that season (24:50 in this video):

THE TV SEASON THAT ALMOST WASN’T: 1980-81



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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:15:58am
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sagehen  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:25:37am

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

OT - somewhat. Maybe I misinterpreted the story, but does Trump deserve much credit for Operation Warp Speed? Wasn’t the program designed by government bureaucrats and his only contribution was not vetoing their proposal?

Funding for some of the labs, also committing to and pre-paying for 100 million doses before we even knew which companies and which labs would come up with a winner… was a law that had to get through Congress and be signed by the President. It meant clinical trials could start IMMEDIATELY for any R&D dept that had something promising, and production facilities would be formatted and ready on day one. UK, Germany and the Gates Foundation also threw a bunch of money into the program.

ETA: I think it was Gates Foundation that came up with the idea; but congressionally appropriated US funding was significant.

another ETA: There was some highly unusual IP govt indemnification against copyright/patent infringement suits, so Pfizer, Moderna, Astra-Zeneca and J&J could all work off each other’s interim findings.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:26:05am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:38:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:50:53am

re: #55 DesertDenizen

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Republicans siding with India against the atheists. They’ve never considered us citizens.

If it were a Christian sect somewhere, they would be eager to jump on it. For heathenous brown Hindoos, less likely.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:52:50am

re: #83 William Lewis

Early 80’s, three words: Hill Street Blues

The only cop show ever worth watching.

ETA: The first 5 minutes.

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They did set new standards for TV drama series

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:00:15am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They did set new standards for TV drama series

You mean “Rocky King, Inside Detective” on DuMont didn’t?

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:03:27am

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Now with the rise of “reality TV” the typical TV show has very little substance, and these shows are designed mostly around exploiting people and C-list celebs. Not really a cultural advancement (and I’d argue a step down from even Gilligan’s Island.)

Gilligan’s Island is underrated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:04:30am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You mean “Rocky King, Inside Detective” on DuMont didn’t?

I meant The Further Adventures of Nick Danger, Third Eye

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:16:05am

Speaking of television, there are calls within the Catholic Church (especially the Diocese of Peoria) for greater transparency.

Not about child abuse.

What they are calling for is greater transparency because the canonisation request of Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen (of DuMont Television fame for his Emmy-award winning inspirational show “Life Is Worth Living” and the only show to compete successfully against Milton Berle on NBC) has not yet been approved, without explanation.

He was first put up in 2012 but rejected. He was put up again last year, and Pope Francis has acknowledged a miracle attributed to Sheen’s television show on DuMont.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:22:29am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They have their priorities: Medieval superstition about magic healing powers…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:28:59am

Speaking of TV shows, Dick Clark was one of those cultural icons about whom, if not already, in coming decades the young will look back and wonder why the 20th century was so full of bad dancers.

Here’s a clip from Bandstand. While I don’t want to pick to harshly on the young folk back then, trying to partner dance to Telstar without professional dance training is just a no-go.

As a song, to me it calls for a more lyrical (dance) interpretation, but these young folk back then are trying to do something, perhaps Jitterbug inspired, to that tune:

American Bandstand 1964 – Telstar, The Tornados / I Will Follow Him, Little Peggy March

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:30:24am

“objectivity”

Moreover, no sensible reason has yet been offered to explain the Holy See’s extraordinary halt to Sheen’s beatification just weeks before it was to be held in his former hometown of Peoria, Illinois. Rather than being a unifying event that celebrated a holy bishop, the beatification — and its postponement — turned into a concerning affair that, to this day, runs the risk of undermining the credibility of the Church’s canonization process and more.

The delay of Sheen’s beatification, accompanied with an all-too-familiar lack of clarity, is a cause of concern for the whole Church, not just those devoted to Sheen. While some might say the postponement offers proof that the beatification process works — given that concerns arose that might give reason to question Sheen’s beatification — the way in which it was handled raises grave concerns about the integrity and objectivity of the process.

A year later, still no answers on the delay of Fulton Sheen’s beatification (Our Sunday Visitor, a Roman Catholic publication, December 2, 2020)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:30:47am

re: #98 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Speaking of TV shows, Dick Clark was one of those cultural icons about whom, if not already, in coming decades the young will look back and wonder why the 20th century was so full of bad dancers.

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They had no MTV stars to learn moves from.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:37:40am

German TV has been running this intro to the Tatort (Crime Scene) detective series since 1970

TATORT Opening Sequence

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:43:15am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German TV has been running this intro to the Tatort (Crime Scene) detective series since 1970

[Embedded content]

Video

So it’s been on way longer than “The Simpsons” and nearly as long as “Doctor Who.”

Running the same title sequence is cheaper than making a new one every couple years, though.

In the meantime, whatever happened to the actresses and actors of “Petticoat Junction?” The answer is on that font of television knowledge, YouTube. (8:52)

PETTICOAT JUNCTION 💙 THEN AND NOW 2021

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:47:06am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Barney Miller Season 3 intro Remasterd (HD)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:48:04am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They had no MTV stars to learn moves from.

True.

However, the 1950’s was the era of the big budget color musicals. Dancing had been a staple of film for over 30 years (when that Bandstand was made.)

Here’s the thing about Telstar - it is in common time so yes, one can force any of the usual partner dances to it (other than a waltz but one can adapt even typical waltz dancing vocabulary to common time.) However, as a song Telstar is not designed for rhythmic dancing. Instead, one should dance to the electric keyboard.

Now what the instrument was I am not entirely sure. Googling it brings up some conflicting information.

Regardless, for a song like Telstar I would dance with the melody.

But for those young folk back in 1964 that was probably too much to ask of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:49:02am

re: #105 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Regardless, for a song like Telstar I would dance with the melody.

But for those young folk back in 1964 that was probably too much to ask of them.

Interpretive dance had not caught on outside ballet.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:52:34am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Interpretive dance had not caught on outside ballet.

Well, Modern dance had been around since the beginning of that century.

Now, those teenagers in 1964 probably had very little exposure to any sort of dancing, though some of the girls may have had ballet when they were little.

Still, 60 years on and as a culture our dancing is much better. Yes, it is because of TV.

Probably also less sexual inhibition.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:54:55am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

IIRC, that show had some risque lines for TV at that time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:57:41am

That was a time when public schools were teaching square dancing. Not because it was popular with very many people outside rural areas but because people like Henry Ford saw it as promoting traditional “American” (as in white Anglo-Saxon) culture.

“To understand how square dancing became a state-mandated means of celebrating Americana, it’s necessary to go back to Henry Ford, the founder of Ford Motor Vehicles. Ford hated jazz; he hated the Charleston. He also really hated Jewish people, and believed that Jewish people invented jazz as part of a nefarious plot to corrupt the masses and take over the world—a theory that might come as a surprise to the black people who actually did invent it.”

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2021 • 1:59:38am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They had no MTV stars to learn moves from.

Or Soul Train.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:00:19am

Things getting interesting AF in California….

California’s recall election suddenly seems to be getting real.

Just weeks before the Sept. 14 election date, voters who plan to cast a ballot are roughly evenly divided when it comes to the question of whether Gov. Gavin Newsom should be removed from office, with Republican opponents especially eager to get rid of the sitting governor, according to a new poll from UC Berkeley’s Institute of Governmental Studies.

“They’re probably running around the governor’s mansion like their pants are on fire,” said Melissa Michelson, a Menlo College political science professor, “because this is a scary result.”

The new poll measured passion on both sides of the recall question by focusing on likely voters, in addition to everyone who is registered. While it found that 50% of likely voters were against ousting Newsom, 47% of likely voters said they do want to recall the governor — a slim divide indicating the election may come down to which side can motivate its voters to participate with ballots already hitting mailboxes next month.

mercurynews.com

That’s within the statistical margin of error. It’s all gonna come down to voter participation. And as that article notes, Republicans are highly motivated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:00:43am

re: #110 sagehen

Or Soul Train.

that’s where I got my moves from, that and the sock hop dances at Edison Middle School in Gary, Indiana.

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:03:28am

re: #107 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, Modern dance had been around since the beginning of that century.

Now, those teenagers in 1964 probably had very little exposure to any sort of dancing, though some of the girls may have had ballet when they were little.

Still, 60 years on and as a culture our dancing is much better. Yes, it is because of TV.

Probably also less sexual inhibition.

This is from 1966.

Nancy Sinatra - These Boots Are Made for Walkin’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:15:17am

re: #114 sagehen

that song was a major breakthrough. female singers were supposed to be virtuous, innocent, true-hearted perhaps heartbroken, but not vamps

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:22:53am

re: #114 sagehen

This is from 1966.

This song is from 1968 although the performance is a bit later. It is the first song to reach the top of Billboard’s chart for both Country & Western and Hot 100 pop chart. That feat wasn’t repeated for thirteen years when Dolly Parton released “9 to 5.”

Society calling out a vamp who calls out all the hypocrites.

Jeannie C. Riley - Harper Valley P.T.A.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:23:16am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who’s brilliant idea was it to hold a massive open-air festival in the middle of a pandemic?

$.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:25:07am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The classic country song that is a short story condensed into three minutes of music.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:26:05am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who’s brilliant idea was it to hold a massive open-air festival in the middle of a pandemic?

On top of the financial hit, nobody wants to be seen as “giving into panic” or “living in fear”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:28:21am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On top of the financial hit, nobody wants to be seen as “giving into panic” or “living in fear”.

I can stay inside until all the morans die, then I get to take their stuff. That’s how this works?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:29:02am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not a country-western fan myself, but that particular song is a straight-up American classic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:35:30am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Not a country-western fan myself, but that particular song is a straight-up American classic.

Via Wikipedia, they note the following about the writer of “Harper Valley PTA,” country star Tom T. Hall:

In 2005, Hall noted that he had witnessed a similar scenario when he was a child in Olive Hill, Kentucky, in the mid-1940s; the mother of one of Hall’s classmates had drawn the ire of local school board members for her modern ways, and the school was taking out their frustrations on her daughter. The mother gave a verbal tongue-lashing at the school, an iconoclastic move that was unheard of at the time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:37:28am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Via Wikipedia, they note the following about the writer of “Harper Valley PTA,” country star Tom T. Hall:

In Germany well into the 1960’s a single mother could have her kids taken away from her if she led an “immoral” lifestyle, which included things like failure to attend church, visiting bars or having male company at home.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:53:16am

re: #29 Dread Pirate Ron

We’re screwed then because it isn’t just Manchin and Sinema who refuse to get rid of the filibuster. Republicans will control Congress for the last six years of Biden’s presidency because Democratic Senators are okay with voter suppression laws in red states. It’s that simple.
Sorry to sound alarmist but I don’t see Democratic Senators taking voting rights seriously. I hope I’m wrong about this.

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William Lewis  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:58:30am

Not sure why but the discussion made me think of this classic…

Carpenters - Superstar

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 2:58:34am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

We’re screwed then because it isn’t just Manchin and Sinema who refuse to get rid of the filibuster. Republicans will control Congress for the last six years of Biden’s presidency because Democratic Senators are okay with voter suppression laws in red states. It’s that simple.
Sorry to sound alarmist but I don’t see Democratic Senators taking voting rights seriously. I hope I’m wrong about this.

I am afraid I have to agree and if GOP plans are implemented then they will be able to stage an electoral coup and simply disqualify results in any states that do not vote for the GOP candidate.

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steve_davis  Aug 1, 2021 • 3:13:26am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They did set new standards for TV drama series

Hell, I can still remember the dust up over nypd blues showing a corner of somebody’s ass in the opening episode, and the local owner of our abc affiliate had to spend five minutes before it aired explaining the station’s decision to do so. And that was the late90’s.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 3:26:43am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

We’re screwed then because it isn’t just Manchin and Sinema who refuse to get rid of the filibuster. Republicans will control Congress for the last six years of Biden’s presidency because Democratic Senators are okay with voter suppression laws in red states. It’s that simple.
Sorry to sound alarmist but I don’t see Democratic Senators taking voting rights seriously. I hope I’m wrong about this.

The only alternative to extreme gerrymandering would be for people packed into blue gerrymandered districts, or people who live in overwhelmingly Democratic states like California and New York, is to toughen up and sacrifice your lives of comfort (/s) and move into extremely red states or districts.

There are more Democrats than Republicans, so if you really care about our democracy, you’ll do whatever it takes to save it, including giving up your lives of pampered comfort (/s). You won’t have that anyway if conservatives gain permanent control.

I look forward to greeting all my new neighbours. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 3:27:49am

I’m sure Backwoods Sleuth and Electric Cyborg are also looking forward to their new neighbours.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 3:41:05am

re: #126 William Lewis

Not sure why but the discussion made me think of this classic…

I thought of this one, much darker.

(3:40)

The Night the Lights Went out in Georgia

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 3:58:45am

For those of us growing old, despite our best efforts not to (5:29)

Mary Hopkin Those Were The Days 1969 Rare Performance

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 4:15:15am

re: #128 steve_davis

Hell, I can still remember the dust up over nypd blues showing a corner of somebody’s ass in the opening episode, and the local owner of our abc affiliate had to spend five minutes before it aired explaining the station’s decision to do so. And that was the late90’s.

In the wake of the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction, TV stations were totally paranoid about bringing down the Wrath of the Righteous (and FCC fines).

So on Memorial Day 2004, a local station that was supposed to air Saving Private Ryan decided to cancel it because Spielberg had insisted that it could only be shown intact with no editing, coarse language, violence and all, and the station feared getting into trouble for that.

They replaced it with Mayberry RFD

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 4:17:06am

Dark Southern stories, right out of Faulkner’s Yoknapatawpha county:

Bobby Gentry - Ode to Billy Joe

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 4:59:18am

An interesting short documentary (11:01) of Dee Snyder humiliating Sen. Al Gore by using his wife’s lies against him, in the busybody attempt by a parents’ organisation to force the record industry to adopt a similar rating system to the MPAA for cinema.

John Denver and Frank Zappa were also subpoenaed to testify, and appeared clean-shaven, hair cut, and in business suits. Dee Snyder wasn’t going to take it, and went in his dirtbag gurnge look, which threw the senators off, thinking they had a dumb, easy target.

Mr. Snyder is a well-educated and very articulate man, and repeatedly humiliated the senators on-record (Al Gore changing the subject numerous times over Dee Snyder directly quoting his wife).

Of note, in trying to imply Dee Snyder would be a bad parent and un-Christian influence on his small child, Snyder also took them apart.

Al and Tipper Gore’s marriage is long over. Dee Snyder has remained faithful to his wife to this day.

How Twisted Sister Outclassed Congress

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 5:01:38am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I really disliked Tipper and Joe Liebermann for their role in trying to stifle creativity in the name of “decency”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 5:05:16am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really disliked Tipper and Joe Liebermann for their role in trying to stifle creativity in the name of “decency”.

See also this bit of conservative meddling which backfired just like Dee Snyder’s testimony (10:44)

How George Carlin’s ‘7 Words’ Caused a Landmark Supreme Court Decision

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jeffreyw  Aug 1, 2021 • 5:37:54am

We are Not Amused

Good morning~

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 1, 2021 • 5:52:38am

I’m going to trundle off to bed. Catch y’all later.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 5:57:06am

re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter

At least he apparently has repented of his anti-vax attitudes and his family urged his supporters to get vaccinated. A little late for this realization but maybe others will decide to take the shot.

And that’s all I am going to say about these people. No gloating. Just “Does this convince you to get your shot now?” To anyone who might bring him or any conservative denier who suddenly found vaccine religion up.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:04:42am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That time included the late 70s/early 80s.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:10:17am
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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:12:35am

We had higher values than this in the US for the total population back in February before vaccination really got underway for infections:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:15:46am

re: #141 Belafon

That time included the late 70s/early 80s.

I recall square dance instruction from my grade school in the 60’s.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:16:04am
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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:18:01am
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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:20:32am

I gotta find this article:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:20:54am

re: #146 Belafon

B.1.621 is so new, it has not yet been given a Greek letter designation

The Omega variant is just a matter of time

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:22:59am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall square dance instruction from my grade school in the 60’s.

I can google it but I’m going to try off the top of my head: square dancing in elementary schools was part of a funded program by a super-rich John-Birch-adjacent industrialist…nope, I can’t remember the name. I mean there are few things whiter than square dancing.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:23:02am

re: #84 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I stopped watching HGTV a long time ago. My husband has been in the building maintenance/construction/inspection business since his very first decent paying job at age 19. He picks all that shit apart, lol. I hate the marketing and selling of the show hosts and seeing their crap all over stores. Same goes for Food Network, it’s the same obnoxious formula.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:25:15am

re: #149 Barefoot Grin

I can google it but I’m going to try off the top of my head: square dancing in elementary schools was part of a funded program by a super-rich John-Birch-adjacent industrialist…nope, I can’t remember the name. I mean there are few things whiter than square dancing.

Yes. It was Henry Ford. I thought it was after his time, but I guess not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:27:38am

re: #149 Barefoot Grin

I can google it but I’m going to try off the top of my head: square dancing in elementary schools was part of a funded program by a super-rich John-Birch-adjacent industrialist…nope, I can’t remember the name. I mean there are few things whiter than square dancing.

Contradancing (a related precursor to square dancing) became a proper thing (without any outside agenda) in the 90’s, good friends of mine in USA and UK are big into it and I have gone along to a handful of events.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:27:57am

Which side are you on?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:29:07am

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Which side are you on?

I thought it was now legal to run over protesters blocking roadways…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:31:15am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Contradancing (a related precursor to square dancing) became a proper thing (without any outside agenda) in the 90’s, good friends of mine in USA and UK are big into it and I have gone along to a handful of events.

Yeah, my cousin and her family in Brattleboro, VT are huge into it. Also, when an anthropology professor at Earlham College I knew brought Japanese students to Richmond he always took them to a weekly square dance in the town. But the school thing was supposed to act as a remedy to “syncopation” in our music and society.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:31:55am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought it was now legal to run over protesters blocking roadways…

Oh, right. I forgot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:37:46am

re: #155 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, my cousin and her family in Brattleboro, VT are huge into it. Also, when an anthropology professor at Earlham College I knew brought Japanese students to Richmond he always took them to a weekly square dance in the town. But the school thing was supposed to act as a remedy to “syncopation” in our music and society.

Joseph Goebbels also expressly forbade syncopation in any form.

East Germany tried to counter Rock and Roll with the Lipsi, a dance number for young people to distract them from decadent western music.

It did not keep them from falling for Elvis and James Dean.

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cat-tikvah  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:43:46am

re: #47 Dave In Austin

COVID, like TFG, loves the poorly educated, especially those poorly educated by TFG.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:44:16am

An older relation in Japan is one of those folks who were protesting the Olympics a couple of weeks ago. Now, I’m told, she’s on the phone to NHK demanding a refund of her mandatory subscription because all of her favorite programming has been removed in order to air Olympics events. Elderly Japanese women are fierce.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:47:28am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Joseph Goebbels also expressly forbade syncopation in any form.

East Germany tried to counter Rock and Roll with the Lipsi, a dance number for young people to distract them from decadent western music.

It did not keep them from falling for Elvis and James Dean.

Interesting. I went to a talk once by a guy who worked as a touring drummer mostly in the south in the 1960s who went on to become a producer. He talked about playing shows where the venue would put a rope between the white kids and the Black kids and how by the end of the first song the kids had always torn the rope down (this was Virginia).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:50:08am

re: #160 Barefoot Grin

Interesting. I went to a talk once by a guy who worked as a touring drummer mostly in the south in the 1960s who went on to become a producer. He talked about playing shows where the venue would put a rope between the white kids and the Black kids and how by the end of the first song the kids had always torn the rope down (this was Virginia).

In Zappa’s Dog Breath he sings about “Going to El Monte Legion Stadium”.

This is a reference to the time when LA had banned rock and roll concerts, to hear one you had to drive to El Monte.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:51:36am

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:51:55am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought it was now legal to run over protesters blocking roadways…

It will be interesting to see how legalized vehicular attempted murder meets legal open carry in self-defense in reality.

We will soon know I’m sure at this point.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:52:33am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Zappa’s Dog Breath he talks about “Going to El Monte Legion Stadium”.

This is a reference to the time when LA had banned rock and roll concerts, to hear one you had to drive to El Monte.

I had never heard that. I should poke around about my hometown in Illinois. I strongly suspect you could find similar ordinances there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:54:27am

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

I had never heard that. I should poke around about my hometown in Illinois. I strongly suspect you could find similar ordinances there.

I ran across that in a Zappa bio, but yeah, Buddy Holly once got fired from a gig in Lubbock, TX for playing “rhythmic race music”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 6:56:33am

re: #162 Ace Rothstein

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darthstar  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:04:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:13:46am

re: #167 darthstar

Joseph Flynn, social media troll, disinformation spreader, and brother of Michael Flynn, now has covid. He was suspended by twitter last night after he posted that he went to a farm supply store and bought a drug used to kill parasites in animals to treat himself.

“Why is Big Pharma suppressing this science? Blame Fauci and Soros!!!”

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:17:19am

re: #167 darthstar

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did Dr Jonas Salk have to go through this type of hounding by the media that Dr Fauci is going through now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:18:23am

re: #169 PhillyPretzel

Did Dr Jonas Salk have to go through this type of hounding by the media that Dr Fauci is going through now?

It was a different world and a different GOP back then, they had Eisenhower.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:20:32am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes. And very few people wanted to take Eisenhower on.

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darthstar  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:20:47am

Lamont Wade Jr’s splash hit yesterday was extra special…he hit it right over his mother’s head.

Shot:

Chaser:

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:30:04am

Just ‘cause ha:

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:31:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:34:19am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

one week it’s Holocaust, now it’s Uighur internment camps…

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:48:28am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

one week it’s Holocaust, now it’s Uighur internment camps…

Everything MTG learns about bad stuff that has happened to other people, she coopts for her own fictitious victimhood.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:57:10am

re: #176 The Pie Overlord!

Everything MTG learns about bad stuff that has happened to other people, she coopts for her own fictitious victimhood.

Her fans eat it up

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:59:05am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was a different world and a different GOP back then, they had Eisenhower.

And WW2 was still fresh in people’s minds and we were fighting the USSR. There was a whole lot more unity. And it was still ok to hate on black people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2021 • 7:59:46am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall square dance instruction from my grade school in the 60’s.

It was polka dancing in my school

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:02:05am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Your school was very progressive. Philly public schools taught square dancing.

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mmmirele  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:02:57am

Just dropping a note that I’m going protesting. It’s 90 degrees outside so I think I’m going to do before the church service and then call it a day.

Back in a while.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:04:14am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was polka dancing in my school

Polka is also pretty white. My mom and stepdad had a trophy on top of their TV set, winners of the local VFW Polka Contest.

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dat_said  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:07:26am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was polka dancing in my school

I recall a few days of square dancing in elementary school but definitely a couple of weeks of polka, waltz, and fox trot. Good German from Russia Catholic community had to prepare us for wedding dances.

Too bad they didn’t have a week or two on the perils of Red Eye (Everclear grain alcohol, some sugar, and grenadine) that was served at all those weddings.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:09:33am

re: #183 dat_said

I recall a few days of square dancing in elementary school but definitely a couple of weeks of polka, waltz, and fox trot. Good German from Russia Catholic community had to prepare us for wedding dances.

Too bad they didn’t have a week or two on the perils of Red Eye (Everclear grain alcohol, some sugar, and grenadine).

Red-Eyed Women and Brown Grenadine…

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:10:34am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Why is Big Pharma suppressing this science? Blame Fauci and Soros!!!”

Must be the new hydroxychloroquine: ivermectin. The July 28 WSJ published a big column on its opinion pages promoting this drug and my Trumpster FB friend had a rant telling everyone about it. Too bad for them that a major study behind the article had to be retracted. And as everyone knows, WSJ editorial pages are not worth the pixels that display them. If the drug were useful, it would be described in an article in the WSJ news section and not on its opinion pages.

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Dangerman  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:14:56am
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Dangerman  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:15:12am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:15:20am

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

Must be the new hydroxychloroquine: ivermectin. The July 28 WSJ published a big column on its opinion pages promoting this drug and my Trumpster FB friend had a rant telling everyone about it..

You know that if hydroxychloroquine had turned out to be the least bit effective against Covid, Trump would still be President, praised as a genius, avatar and savior of America.

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Dangerman  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:15:35am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:16:32am

re: #187 Dangerman

An apple is a vaccine: against doctors

An apple every three hours keeps three doctors away!

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Egregious Philbin  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:17:27am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Primer me carucha Chevy 39, going to El Monte, Legion stadium…..

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:19:10am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

We’re screwed then because it isn’t just Manchin and Sinema who refuse to get rid of the filibuster. Republicans will control Congress for the last six years of Biden’s presidency because Democratic Senators are okay with voter suppression laws in red states. It’s that simple.
Sorry to sound alarmist but I don’t see Democratic Senators taking voting rights seriously. I hope I’m wrong about this.

Sorry to shine a faint ray of hope into the gloom, but what I hear is that now that the fiscal bills are mostly finished, they’re working on voting rights. President Biden has been meeting with legislators, and they are putting the bill together.

(A week ago, you will recall, the bipartisan budget bill was all but dead — and 17 repug senators have now voted for the motion to proceed.)

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Renaissance_Man  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:20:31am

re: #189 Dangerman

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Americans are self-centred toddlers, but people in Asian countries don’t give a shit about other people either. They wear masks to avoid catching stuff, not to avoid giving it to others.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:21:33am

re: #138 jeffreyw

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Western good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:23:24am

How to guarantee I will never buy your product or service:

Force me to give you my email address or create an account before I can see ANYTHING on your website.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:23:26am

re: #194 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Those are very pretty irises.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:25:34am

re: #192 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Sorry to shine a faint ray of hope into the gloom, but what I hear is that now that the fiscal bills are mostly finished, they’re working on voting rights. President Biden has been meeting with legislators, and they are putting the bill together.

(A week ago, you will recall, the bipartisan budget bill was all but dead — and 17 repug senators have now voted for the motion to proceed.)

That is good news, without Federal voting bills, we will simply have a GOP electoral coup in 2024 when GOP state legislatures refuse to validate election results that don’t like

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No Malarkey!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:26:02am

re: #192 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Sorry to shine a faint ray of hope into the gloom, but what I hear is that now that the fiscal bills are mostly finished, they’re working on voting rights. President Biden has been meeting with legislators, and they are putting the bill together.

(A week ago, you will recall, the bipartisan budget bill was all but dead — and 17 repug senators have now voted for the motion to proceed.)

There is a 0% probability that a voting rights bill will get 10 GOP votes in the Senate. They are all in on “election integrity.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:26:23am

re: #193 Renaissance_Man

Americans are self-centred toddlers, but people in Asian countries don’t give a shit about other people either. They wear masks to avoid catching stuff, not to avoid giving it to others.

Too much over-generalization. A lot of Asian society and culture is about consideration and respect for others. At least at a personal level.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:27:43am

This is a refreshing change. An article interviewing rational people about the key issue of the day, instead of a Cletus safari.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:27:54am

re: #198 No Malarkey!

There is a 0% probability that a voting rights bill will get 10 GOP votes in the Senate. They are all in on “election integrity.”

Which means that they can simply declare a corrupt election anytime one goes against their interests

Those GOP state election officers who came out in PA, MI and AZ in favor of the voters over party are all gone and fired and replaced by party hacks.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:31:38am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which means that they can simply declare a corrupt election anytime one goes against their interests

Those GOP state election officers who came out in PA, MI and AZ in favor of the voters over party are all gone and fired and replaced by party hacks.

If Republicans think that in 2024 they can simply nullify millions of Black votes and anoint Trump as dictator, and the majority will just sit back and let them do it, they will be in for a nasty surprise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:33:28am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

If Republicans think that in 2024 they can simply nullify millions of Black votes and anoint Trump as dictator, and the majority will just sit back and let them do it, they will be in for a nasty surprise.

They will frame it as “States Rights” again, even if it is a Federal Election, they will insist that they can decide which votes are valid and which are not.

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danarchy  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:34:56am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Too much over-generalization. A lot of Asian society and culture is about consideration and respect for others. At least at a personal level.

Yeah, and “Americans are self centered toddlers” Isn’t an overgeneralization at all,, nope.

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JC1  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:35:27am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really disliked Tipper and Joe Liebermann for their role in trying to stifle creativity in the name of “decency”.

Gore would have probably easily won in 2000 if he didn’t have Tipper’s and Joe’s censorship baggage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:36:58am

re: #204 danarchy

Yeah, and “Americans are self centered toddlers” Isn’t an overgeneralization at all,, nope.

A lot of Americans place rabid, aggressive individualism over any sort of concern for others, especially when those “others” are, well “others.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:37:08am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will frame it as “States Rights” again, even if it is a Federal Election, they will insist that they can decide which votes are valid and which are not.

Of course they will. And I predict the people will rise up and say “no, you can’t.” I also hope the courts will as well. And of course, according to Trump, VP Harris can simply refuse to count Trump electors from states that Biden won.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:37:46am

re: #205 JC1

Gore would have probably easily won in 2000 if he didn’t have Tipper’s and Joe’s censorship baggage.

I don’t know about that, but I did not like his choice of VP or his choice of wife.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:39:42am

I’m on a grocery run. One of the cars I saw in the store parking lot had a bunch of stickers on the back.

Some were pro-Trump. The rest were…Hello Kitty.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:39:45am

Madison Cawthorn said his attempt to bring a gun and ammo on a plane was just a “mistake.”

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darthstar  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:40:34am
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Renaissance_Man  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:44:32am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Too much over-generalization. A lot of Asian society and culture is about consideration and respect for others. At least at a personal level.

That may be the focus of a lot of Asian religions, but it’s not really the case when it comes to daily life or culture. Most Asian cultures prioritise duty and respect within the family unit, but outside of that, most anything goes. There’s a reason China is the Land of No Queues, and why India has a reputation for violent patriarchy and misogyny, and why Hindu nationalism so easily took root there. Outside of Florida, most Americans will still stop to help a dying or injured person, but in China, people will walk past a dying child and shrug. That story’s not isolated - I have personally seen people casually driving over a corpse in the road in China again and again without stopping. Life is very cheap there, and society makes it quite clear that it does not care about you, not one bit. I imagine it’s very similar to the feeling you would have growing up as a minority in the US.

Caste structures and hierarchies are just as ingrained in the East as they are in America. Society may tell you who you are supposed to care about, but it also is quite explicit on who you don’t have to give a shit about.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:46:28am

re: #169 PhillyPretzel

Did Dr Jonas Salk have to go through this type of hounding by the media that Dr Fauci is going through now?

No, but polio is much more deadly than covid, and it leaves maimed children on every street corner for the world to see.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:47:43am

re: #213 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

No, but polio is much more deadly than covid, and it leaves maimed children on every street corner for the world to see.

And did not turn into a partisan issue on the part of a pathetic, self-centered, clueless Chief Executive who was worried about it wrecking his re-election chances.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:47:55am

Heh.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:49:50am

Typical SHREWSAN!

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danarchy  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:51:37am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of Americans place rabid, aggressive individualism over any sort of concern for others, especially when those “others” are, well “others.

Funny you mention “others” because a lot of asian countries have serious “others” issues.

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Renaissance_Man  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:51:49am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

If Republicans think that in 2024 they can simply nullify millions of Black votes and anoint Trump as dictator, and the majority will just sit back and let them do it, they will be in for a nasty surprise.

Not sure I agree there. I’m pretty sure the nation as a whole will absolutely sit back and let them do it. Sure, there’ll be some protests, but the news channels will bring on some very serious people who will explain that it’s all legal, and how disappointing it is that people are making a big deal about this when Republicans accepted the controversial and possibly fraudulent results of 2020 with such good grace.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:55:04am

re: #218 Renaissance_Man

Not sure I agree there. I’m pretty sure the nation as a whole will absolutely sit back and let them do it. Sure, there’ll be some protests, but the news channels will bring on some very serious people who will explain that it’s all legal, and how disappointing it is that people are making a big deal about this when Republicans accepted the controversial and possibly fraudulent results of 2020 with such good grace.

We’ll see. I hope the courts will block the efforts of the GOP to steal the election. I don’t believe the people will accept Trump being imposed on them by a radical minority.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:56:23am

re: #219 No Malarkey!

We’ll see. I hope the courts will block the efforts of the GOP to steal the election. I don’t believe the people will accept Trump being imposed on them by a radical minority.

The GOP will not accept any candidate “imposed” on them by racial minorities…gonna get ugly either way, I fear.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:56:41am

re: #202 No Malarkey!

If Republicans think that in 2024 they can simply nullify millions of Black votes and anoint Trump as dictator, and the majority will just sit back and let them do it, they will be in for a nasty surprise.

They got away with stealing the Presidency in 2000. They will get away with it when they succeed in killing any voting rights act by the corrupted Supreme Court. The only thing that stands in their way now is the virus killing off the brainwashed whites in the party base.

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Renaissance_Man  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:57:46am

re: #219 No Malarkey!

We’ll see. I hope the courts will block the efforts of the GOP to steal the election. I don’t believe the people will accept Trump being imposed on them by a radical minority.

They already did once.

They already accept a Congress and Senate that doesn’t represent them at all and that is imposed by a radical minority.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:59:40am

Great. The neighbor kid is building a death ray again.

My Homebuilt 200W LASER BAZOOKA!!!!!

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JC1  Aug 1, 2021 • 8:59:54am

re: #218 Renaissance_Man

Not sure I agree there. I’m pretty sure the nation as a whole will absolutely sit back and let them do it. Sure, there’ll be some protests, but the news channels will bring on some very serious people who will explain that it’s all legal, and how disappointing it is that people are making a big deal about this when Republicans accepted the controversial and possibly fraudulent results of 2020 with such good grace.

I wager that more trumpers will die in key states (covid, old age, bitterness, etc.) before the next election than the number of voters they’ll be able to suppress.
No way in hell the legislature of any even halfway purple state overturns the result of the popular vote to give the results to the loser. It won’t happen.
Redistricting will make the house more difficult to keep. A wasted opportunity by the Dems to not focus more on state elections over the past decade.

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danarchy  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:00:31am

re: #219 No Malarkey!

We’ll see. I hope the courts will block the efforts of the GOP to steal the election. I don’t believe the people will accept Trump being imposed on them by a radical minority.

My fear is if the current inflation isn’t as transitory as the Biden admin claims it to be, they may not have to steal it.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:00:55am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the basis of no facts or evidence I’m offering as a fact You know that if hydroxychloroquine had turned out to be the least bit effective against Covid, Trump would still be President, praised as a genius, avatar and savior of America.

I don’t know that at all. Neither do you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:01:21am

re: #222 Renaissance_Man

They already did once.

They already accept a Congress and Senate that doesn’t represent them at all and that is imposed by a radical minority.

And DO NOT FORGET that Trump got more votes in 2020 than in 2016. Only a MASSIVE RECORD Democratic turnout prevented him from winning, and even for that it was still too much of a close-run thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:02:41am

re: #225 danarchy

My fear is if the current inflation isn’t as transitory as the Biden admin claims it to be, they may not have to steal it.

They are already screaming about gasoline prices, which is a big, big deal for people in rural areas.

If Biden had only built that Keystone Pipeline, we would have cheap American gasoline everywhere, right?

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John Hughes  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:03:51am

re: #193 Renaissance_Man

people in Asian countries

because the USA and Venezuela are indistinguishable.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:04:35am

re: #198 No Malarkey!

There is a 0% probability that a voting rights bill will get 10 GOP votes in the Senate. They are all in on “election integrity.”

You don’t know that — although I consider it more likely than not. None of us know what kinds of talks are going on behind closed doors in re: filibuster.

I’m done with this. Back to your world of unremitting gloom and hopelessness.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:04:43am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And DO NOT FORGET that Trump got more votes in 2020 than in 2016. Only a MASSIVE RECORD Democratic turnout prevented him from winning, and even for that it was still too much of a close-run thing.

Just 40,000 votes in the close states keep us from Shithead Unchained.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:07:44am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #231 JOE 🥓

So all of us must work to GOTV again so that DT can be defeated again. Protecting our right to vote is even more important than it was in the last election.

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Renaissance_Man  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:07:50am

re: #224 JC1

I wager that more trumpers will die in key states (covid, old age, bitterness, etc.) before the next election than the number of voters they’ll be able to suppress.
No way in hell the legislature of any even halfway purple state overturns the result of the popular vote to give the results to the loser. It won’t happen.
Redistricting will make the house more difficult to keep. A wasted opportunity by the Dems to not focus more on state elections over the past decade.

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And DO NOT FORGET that Trump got more votes in 2020 than in 2016. Only a MASSIVE RECORD Democratic turnout prevented him from winning, and even for that it was still too much of a close-run thing.

COVID will kill nowhere near enough Trumpers. The voter suppression efforts are massive and, thus far, highly successful. And I am quite certain that states like Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan, with Democratic statewide reps but heavily Republican legislatures, will gleefully overturn their election results and not a damn thing will be done about it.

Trump, and American fascism in general, will get MORE votes in every election henceforth. Their raw numbers will only increase, because it is a brain disease that people catch from media sources.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:08:15am

re: #219 No Malarkey!

We’ll see. I hope the courts will block the efforts of the GOP to steal the election. I don’t believe the people will accept Trump being imposed on them by a radical minority.

What happens when the election is stolen because minorities could not vote — not because after the election, state officials refused to count votes that were actually cast? Look at Florida where the corrupt SCOTUS ruled that a poll tax was legal and sufficient ex-felons who were supposed to be able to vote and whose vote would have resulted in a different outcome were barred from voting? This SCOTUS is the same as the Plessy vs Ferguson Court. Either votes will be discarded before they are counted or the state will prevent the vote from being cast in the first place.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:09:12am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

Madison Cawthorn said his attempt to bring a gun and ammo on a plane was just a “mistake.”

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I was at an airport once where someone brought a knife to the check-in. (We had been on the same airport shuttle going in.) She was traveling for a family emergency and it was a utility knife that she normally carried, so… but I find a gun oversight a little harder to believe or forgive.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:14:00am

re: #234 Hecuba’s daughter

What happens when the election is stolen because minorities could not vote — not because after the election, state officials refused to count votes that were actually cast? Look at Florida where the corrupt SCOTUS ruled that a poll tax was legal and sufficient ex-felons who were supposed to be able to vote and whose vote would have resulted in a different outcome were barred from voting? This SCOTUS is the same as the Plessy vs Ferguson Court. Either votes will be discarded before they are counted or the state will prevent the vote from being cast in the first place.

And right now millions of White Christians are getting their weekly brainwashing from their Pulpit Pimps that the Presidency was stolen from Gawd’s Anointed King and Biden is turning America into a Communist hellhole.

Hopefully a lot of those folks aren’t wearing masks today. The Pulpit Pimp Palace right down the street is packed with brainwashed zombies who don’t wear those Satanic masks…and they probably aren’t vaccinated either…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:18:36am

re: #231 JOE 🥓

Just 40,000 votes in the close states keep us from Shithead Unchained.

And a handful of GOP state election officials with some sense of integrity and decency. All of whom have since been replaced.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:22:47am

re: #216 JOE 🥓

Good on Tapper. So disappointed in Maine voters for putting her back in the Senate. She’s beyond useless.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:23:47am

re: #167 darthstar

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John Hughes  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:26:53am

re: #200 No Malarkey!The day 600,000 people protested in France against vaccination mandates 600,000 people got vaccinated.
And the day before. And the day after.
Which story for reported?

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:27:53am

re: #239 GlutenFreeJesus

Let Joe Flynn flood his body with Ivermectin and win the Pine Condo with the dirt nap. Hopefully he infects his brother who winds up the same way.

I am out of any more fucks to give ignorant assholes who want to own the libs!

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:30:31am

re: #240 John Hughes

The day 600,000 people protested in France against vaccination mandates 600,000 people got vaccinated.
And the day before. And the day after.
Which story for reported?

Yeah but that’s France. The home of Freedom Fries, Freedom Toast, Freedom Roast Coffee, Freedom Vanilla Ice Cream, Freedom Crepes…

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A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:33:01am

re: #241 JOE 🥓

Yeah, I say let them have ivermectin cookies with ivermectin sprinkles on them if they want to. Except a lot of these fucking idiots will force it on their kids. Which should result in loss of custody and jail time, at the least.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:33:15am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

Imagine what he could do with a military budget……..

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:35:03am

re: #243 A Mom Anon

Yeah, I say let them have ivermectin cookies with ivermectin sprinkles on them if they want to. Except a lot of these fucking idiots will force it on their kids. Which should result in loss of custody and jail time, at the least.

Won’t surprise me to see church services put the ivermectin in the Welch’s Grape juice for communion.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:36:51am

Fox—Gimme that Old Time Racism!

Fox News guest: ‘I prefer the old-fashioned racism’

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:39:34am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

Madison Cawthorn said his attempt to bring a gun and ammo on a plane was just a “mistake.”

Sadly I can actually believe it was an accident negligence. He threw some shit in his gun bag and didn’t think to check that he had removed the weapon. Happens more often than you think.

TSA at Idaho Falls Regional Airport discovers 4th firearm of 2021 in carry-on luggage

Fifth gun in a carry-on found at Boise Airport on Tuesday

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John Hughes  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:39:36am

re: #225 danarchy

My fear is if the current inflation isn’t as transitory as the Biden admin claims it to be, they may not have to steal it.

If only.
There is zero chance that we’re going to get the sustained period of inflation that the economy has needed for 20 years now.
Inflation hurts capital and favours income. Lack of inflation makes the rich richer.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:42:22am

re: #244 GlutenFreeJesus

Imagine what he could do with a military budget……..

Indeed.

Kijimi Destruction (HD)

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A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:42:57am

re: #247 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

And those are the first people who need to have that privilege revoked. If you “forget” about having a fucking gun in a bag, you aren’t fit to have one.

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John Hughes  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:43:09am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are already screaming about gasoline prices, which is a big, big deal for people in rural areas.

And are gasoline prices high? In comparison to when?

(Ignoring the fact that gasoline prices are going to be infinite within less than two decades).

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:45:12am
253
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:50:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:52:09am
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:52:36am

re: #250 A Mom Anon

And those are the first people who need to have that privilege revoked. If you “forget” about having a fucking gun in a bag, you aren’t fit to have one.

Agreed. It falls under the category of losing control of your weapon. Something you DON’T want to do if you’re in the Military whether it’s one of theirs or a personal weapon being kept in your on-base housing. You had damn well be able to account for that weapon at all times or there will be hell to pay.

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:52:49am

In one of the most exciting and competitive high jump finals in Olympic history, Qatar’s Mutaz Essa Barshim and Italy’s Gianmarco Tamberi — who both cleared 2.37m — decided to forgo a jump-off and share the gold.

Top high jumpers decide to SHARE gold in instant-classic final | Tokyo Olympics | NBC Sports

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mmmirele  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:54:23am

Back from protesting. It was over 90 and I decided that ~40 minutes was quite enough.

They were playing Christmas music outside. In August. I really do wonder if they have a license to play Burl Ives’ “Holly Jolly Christmas” outside, in public, where the local protester (me) and the neighbors can definitely hear it. Or the other stuff they were playing (“Sleigh Ride” and “Silver Bells”).

And they really did bring in a bunch of snow. I have no idea how much snow or how much it cost, but we are in the middle of a fucking drought and this just looks tacky as hell.

Oh yeah, this is the second week of “Christmas in Summer.” At least that I know of. For all I know, it could have been going on all July but I wasn’t out there to be able to tell you.

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

ETA and *bingo* I found out who their snow machine rental is.

Double ETA and I have a guesstimate on the cost of snow…$225/ton with a minimum of 3 tons. It’s hard to tell how much they had on site.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:57:04am

re: #251 John Hughes

And are gasoline prices high? In comparison to when?

(Ignoring the fact that gasoline prices are going to be infinite within less than two decades).

Lower than they were before Biden took office (low demand last year with so many people staying home)

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A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:58:03am

re: #255 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

My husband has two weapons. A hunting rifle with a bunch of ridiculous accessories and a handgun. The rifle is unloaded and in the basement closet with all his other hunting gear. The ammo for both weapons and the handgun are in a safe. He hasn’t fired a weapon in 3 years but we know where they are and that they are safely stored. It’s not that damned hard to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 9:59:22am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

My husband has two weapons. A hunting rifle with a bunch of ridiculous accessories and a handgun. The rifle is unloaded and in the basement closet with all his other hunting gear. The ammo for both weapons and the handgun are in a safe. He hasn’t fired a weapon in 3 years but we know where they are and that they are safely stored. It’s not that damned hard to do.

But what will happen when the armed Mau-Mau rape gangs invade your home now that police are defunded, disarmed, de-fanged and demoralized?

I don’t want to Live in Fear so I sleep with a Glock under the pillow, cradling my AR-15 with a brace of shotguns leaned on either side of the bed. (my girlfriend left me ages ago because she a scairdycat)

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:00:21am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lower than they were before Biden took office (low demand last year with so many people staying home)

And food prices are up because

1) anti-immigration measures means there’s not enough harvest workers, and
2) droughts and floods have killed a lot of crops and livestock

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danarchy  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:00:29am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lower than they were before Biden took office (low demand last year with so many people staying home)

The average US gas price is currently higher than it has been since 2014.

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John Hughes  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:01:10am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

The cat has the superior mammalian brain. The turtle is just fucking mean.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:02:11am

re: #262 danarchy

The average US gas price is currently higher than it has been since 2014.

Which is fully Biden’s fault for not building the Keystone pipeline and opening more public lands to drilling…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:02:27am

re: #263 John Hughes

The cat has the superior mammalian brain. The turtle is just fucking mean.

and well protected

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A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:02:29am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also have a fancy set of kitchen knives and heavy shit to throw. And a big ass GSD that might eat a limb or a face. So that’s handy….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:04:57am

re: #266 A Mom Anon

I also have a fancy set of kitchen knives and heavy shit to throw. And a big ass GSD that might eat a limb or a face. So that’s handy….

You are denying yourself the satisfaction that comes from exercising your constitutionally protected right and privilege of shooting a criminal in your home. I just don’t get it…like driving past a protester on a public road without running over them…

/

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wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:07:01am

re: #263 John Hughes

The cat has the superior mammalian brain. The turtle is just fucking mean.

Get a bunny!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:12:16am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:12:46am

Interesting article on email tracking. I thought Google was a Do No Harm company. Yeah. Right.

forbes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:14:12am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:18:14am
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A Mom Anon  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:23:19am

re: #272 Charles Johnson

I just want to slap the shit out of these people. But that would mean getting close to them. Yuck.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:28:00am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of Americans place rabid, aggressive individualism over any sort of concern for others, especially when those “others” are, well “others.

Except for the majority of Americans that have gotten the shot.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:28:29am

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

I got more than my fill of that last year, thanks.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:31:50am

Shaun King is trending again:

He has a new place:

Cenk likes him:

All the names he’s been called, and a few more.

If you share these names with Black people, they’re more than likely to give you two more names for Shaun.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:34:15am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:39:29am

That Belarusian sprinter that went AWOL in Tokyo after criticizing the Lukashenko regime? Czech Republic has offered her a visa in order to avoid a forced return to Belarus. The story is just breaking in Czech media.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:42:49am

It’s ShowTime!!!! (Betelgeuse)

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2021 • 10:45:25am

re: #279 Dave In Austin

It’s ShowTime!!!! (Betelgeuse)

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It’s ok. They are invincible. //

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 1, 2021 • 11:00:13am

re: #279 Dave In Austin

It’s ShowTime!!!! (Betelgeuse)

Mostly suburb kids. They’re going to spread it throughout Northern IL. At first.

Lolla has turned into a joke. I went back in ‘91 for the first one where there was actually music.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 1, 2021 • 12:12:43pm

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t want to Live in Fear so I sleep with a Glock under the pillow, cradling my AR-15 with a brace of shotguns leaned on either side of the bed.

Marina Sirtis moved back to the UK recently - she stated that her late husband slept with a pistol on his nightstand, and commented how insane it was.


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