The Bob Cesca Podcast: The Gunshine State

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

The Gunshine State — [Explicit Language] Buzz on the latest from Florida’s massive COVID outbreak. 70 percent of adults have at least one vaccination. Breakthrough cases and the exploitation of nuance. Lindsey Graham tests positive. Matt Gaetz threatens liberals in Florida. Kevin McCarthy “jokes” about beating up 81-year-old Nancy Pelosi. Oklahoma Red Hat compares vaccine mandates to the Holocaust. DOJ says the IRS must release Trump’s taxes to Congress. Trump sues to block, again. Trump pressured the DOJ to undermine the election. With Buzz Burbank. And Summer music by Leigh Thomas and Blame It On Rebekkah. And more!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 3:35:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 3:35:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 3:40:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 3:42:30pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 3:44:30pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 3:44:48pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

They combine the worst facets of a criminal syndicate and a death cult. The whole organization needs to be destroyed and replaced.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 3:50:41pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:11:03pm
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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:12:39pm

Next flight I’m bringing my own duct tape and wearing my bathrobe and flip flops.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:13:38pm

I have no idea what could induce someone to be a flight attendant these days (or even in the beforetime).

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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:15:16pm

I’ve yet to see a video showing air marshals on one of these flights.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:16:05pm

My dad is a thousandaire!!!! Don’t you know who I am?!?!?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:16:17pm

re: #10 Barefoot Grin

I have no idea what could induce someone to be a flight attendant these days (or even in the beforetime).

Free travel. If you like to travel, it can be a good job.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:16:46pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Just from the first seconds of it sounds almost like one of the idiots who gets a ticket for parking on a hydrant and still insists that the ticket be taken back because they paid to park.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:18:06pm

Last flight my carry on was a plastic grocery bag. Socks and undies spilled out on the belt… My dad was laughing his ass off when I landed

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:19:23pm

re: #13 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Free travel. If you like to travel, it can be a good job.

In the very old days you could actually move around the plane somewhat. It wouldn’t be worth it to me. My sister applied to Delta in the late 1970s partly for the reason you give, so I understand, though (her eyesight was too poor to even get to the interview stage, became a LSW instead).

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wrenchwench  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:20:54pm

re: #15 Amory Blaine

Last flight my carry on was a plastic grocery bag. Socks and undies spilled out on the belt… My dad was laughing his ass off when I landed

If you don’t overfill it, you can tie it shut.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:21:11pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

See my #3

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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:23:32pm

re: #17 wrenchwench

It had a week’s worth of clothes 😁. Hey at least I double bagged it!

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wrenchwench  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:25:15pm

re: #19 Amory Blaine

It had a week’s worth of clothes 😁. Hey at least I double bagged it!

Put the second bag on from the other direction. Maybe a piece of tape…this will be a single-use set.

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danarchy  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:26:08pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

So I don’t know if it is the lighting or what but that really doesn’t look like duct tape. More see through like packing tape.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:26:47pm

O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:30:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:31:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:32:39pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:35:08pm

re: #12 Amory Blaine

My dad is a thousandaire!!!! Don’t you know who I am?!?!?

That’s why you’re flying roach, red hat.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:37:49pm

I just saw this video on Lorenzo The Cat’s twitter site. It is a riot. A cat is on the field at Yankee Stadium.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:42:22pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:45:36pm

re: #27 PhillyPretzel

I just saw this video on Lorenzo The Cat’s twitter site. It is a riot. A cat is on the field at Yankee Stadium.

The crew should have brought towels with them to catch the cat.
Expedient kitty straitjacket

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:45:45pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:45:53pm

re: #28 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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I remember having discussions about this in a college course in the 1980s after we had read Unexpected News: Reading the Bible Through Third World Eyes. It made so much sense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:46:52pm

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The crew should have brought towels with them to catch the cat.
Expedient kitty straitjacket

Obviously not a single experienced cat wrangler in the bunch

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piratedan  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:48:00pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

and a bunch of idiots that refused to open the bullpen door, thus prolonging the issue….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:49:11pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:49:12pm

Do no one think to call out “here, kitty”?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:49:39pm

re: #35 Barefoot Grin

Or a cardboard box.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:49:42pm

re: #28 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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If Jesus showed up in churches of open carry states he’d be shot within 60 seconds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:50:07pm

re: #36 Amory Blaine

Or a cardboard box.

or draw a circle

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:50:26pm

re: #35 Barefoot Grin

Or using some meat to trap said kitty.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:50:45pm

re: #36 Amory Blaine

Or a cardboard box.

With Japanese writing on the side, and maybe a melon rind carved into a helmet….

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:51:04pm

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

What did they think was going to happen if one of them caught it? Cats that don’t want to be grabbed tend to transform into effective puncture and laceration engines.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:51:44pm

re: #40 Barefoot Grin

With Japanese writing on the side, and maybe a melon rind carved into a helmet….

A beer box open at both ends.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:51:46pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:52:41pm

re: #42 Sherlock Hound

A beer box open at both ends.

Announcer: “she slid through that box like Ty Cobb: claws up!”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:52:44pm

re: #41 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

What did they think was going to happen if one of them caught it? Cats that don’t want to be grabbed tend to transform into effective puncture and laceration engines.

Five out of the six ends of a cat are sharp.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:54:29pm

re: #43 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The fact that it didn’t occur to him that members of his prayer group would obey the law speaks volumes. He figured that they’d all agree with him, or at least wouldn’t turn him in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:55:28pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:56:08pm

A friend posted this on FB from Herbie Hancock talking about Miles and life lessons:

Miles Davis according to Herbie Hancock

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:56:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:56:36pm

*snerk*

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:57:14pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn it, I’ve got that link on my clipboard
lol

Oh, and…

Not shocked.
Not shocked at all I say.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:57:30pm

re: #46 DesertDenizen

The fact that it didn’t occur to him that members of his prayer group would obey the law speaks volumes. He figured that they’d all agree with him, or at least wouldn’t turn him in.

Yep. He didn’t think a single one of them would still be patriotic enough, or believe in rule by law enough, to turn him in.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:57:30pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:57:56pm

re: #53 DodgerFan1988

Oh, Christ. What did he do NOW?!

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wrenchwench  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:59:14pm

re: #45 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Five out of the six ends of a cat are sharp.

My Manx’s ‘tail’ is a slightly pointy, bent one-incher. But it’s very tender. No touching allowed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 4:59:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:01:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:02:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:03:52pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Local radio wingnut was ranting today about how children don’t get covid…. Dangerous.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:04:21pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:07:14pm

re: #54 Dopamine Fish

Oh, Christ. What did he do NOW?!

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:08:23pm

re: #61 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Sir, your state is single-handedly responsible for ensuring the delta variant mutates into something more deadly or more easily spread, because you fucktards can’t comprehend the difference between responsible and irresponsible government authority. Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, the adults are talking.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:13:16pm

I would not be surprised when Nincompoop Nina loses she’ll endorse the Republican.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:13:46pm

re: #61 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:18:37pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:19:36pm

re: #62 Dopamine Fish

Sir, your state is single-handedly responsible for ensuring the delta variant mutates into something more deadly or more easily spread, because you fucktards can’t comprehend the difference between responsible and irresponsible government authority. Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, the adults are talking.

It may be mutating in the rest of us as well. It’s being reported that vaccinated people are shedding virus just as much as the unvaccinated are. They’re just not winding up in the hospital or dying.
For this reason, I’m wearing a mask to the weed store since medical patients are there, but I was the only customer doing so Monday. One person working there has a mask on, under his nose at all times. I suspect he’s unvaccinated.

Everyone is going to catch Delta. I’d be vaccinating younger kids now if I were king.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:20:05pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:20:24pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

You made your bed, now die in it.

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Jay C  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:20:41pm

re: #45 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Five out of the six ends of a cat are sharp.

And you don’t want to go too near the sixth end, either….

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JOE 🥓  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:22:46pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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…thoughts & prayers, Asshole Asa, thoughts & prayers…

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KingKenrod  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:23:22pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That guy can FOAD

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:24:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:24:38pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:25:22pm

This narcissistic dumbass tried to define his own reality.

Chehalis restaurant that racked up $400,000 in fines over COVID rules to close permanently (MyNorthwest)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:25:48pm

re: #98 steve_davis

This is a bit overly cynical. The issue isn’t conservatism being a religion. Poor white conservatives tend to be heavily in churches that want tithes, and the tithes are typically 10% of income. Realizing this, it suddenly becomes a lot more understandable why even middle-class white conservatives will bitch about taxes and government: many of them are already tithing 10% of their gross incomes to churches, and then taxation on top of that feels like bloody murder to them. (rest cut)

I don’t find it cynical at all. I will admit it’s my opinion from a lifetime of observing conservatives and reading about the foundations of the conservative movement.

When something looks like a religion to me, that’s what I call it.

Religions don’t need gods (though that is helpful). They only need immutable tenets which put you outside the religion as a heretic if you do not believe as they.

Conservatives have saints they pay lip service to whilst ignoring the times they violated the tenets of their faith (Lincoln, Reagan, Trump, &c). They have specific beliefs which can never change (there are those who should rule just because they should, and those who should follow just because those ruling say so).

They have ritual chants (USA), tenets which cannot change despite overwhelming evidence against them.

The miracle of slashing taxes leading to prosperity (though for centuries they have renamed that con), “rugged individualism” or “bootstraps” (for those not on top), out groups painted as evil enemies (everybody not them, especially POC, liberals, non-Christians, &c), unquenchable thirst for power and the desire to sacrifice others for it, absolutist orthodoxy (heretics/RINOs if you don’t follow that), apologetics for the in-group’s crimes while demonising the out-group’s crimes (see GOP treatment of Trump v Democratic treatment of Cuomo), lying for the tenets of their faith, &c.

It looks exactly like a religion to me.

Lots of liberals give tithes of 10% to churches as well (my wife and I give at least as much to secular charities). Liberals don’t complain about taxes so much, because they haven’t been taught to accept on faith that taxes are necessarily bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:26:32pm
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ckkatz  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:31:13pm

From last thread:

re: #312 steve_davis

“what’ll you have?” the bartender asks.
“I’ve no idea,” says the hedgehog. “I’m supposed to be in a Led Zeppelin song. I’m only here because of autocorrect.” (if there’s a bustle in your hedgehog, don’t be alarmed now….)

A priest, a minister and a rabbit go to donate blood. When the rabbit is called, he goes up to the receptionist:
The receptionist asks “What blood type are you?”
The rabbit replies “I think that I’m a Type O.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:33:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:36:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:38:48pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:39:04pm

SPOILER: Glenn was a nazi the whole time.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:40:00pm

re: #81 The Pie Overlord!

SPOILER: Glenn was a nazi the whole time.

Glenn Greenwald has been a thoroughly despicable man from the very beginning. I have no idea why he captivated so many on the left. He’s been an insufferable libertarian douchebro for decades.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:40:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:41:25pm

re: #81 The Pie Overlord!

SPOILER: Glenn was a nazi the whole time.

and when exactly did Tucker become a journalist?

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:42:15pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

His lawyers won’t agree that he is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:43:31pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:45:13pm

re: #81 The Pie Overlord!

No Glenn. Cucker Tarlson going there had nothing to do with it. I actually pay attention to things in other countries, and I have a friend that lives near Oradea in Romania, which is on the border with Hungary. She has family ties to both sides of the border and when she was younger planned to move to Hungary.

Now she’s desperately trying to raise funds to immigrate to the US or Canada and GTFO of that area.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:45:46pm

Today the US broke through 100,000 new cases.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:48:14pm

re: #82 Dopamine Fish

Glenn Greenwald has been a thoroughly despicable man from the very beginning. I have no idea why he captivated so many on the left. He’s been an insufferable libertarian douchebro for decades.

I think for a brief moment some of us (speaking for myself, I guess), without understanding what had really happened, were kind of glad to see people like Snowden seem to fight back against the Bush administration, and we (me) thought GG had done a good thing by helping him. It didn’t take too long to understand that the “heroes” (including Assange) were just trying to blow things up. They’ve been in damage control for years over their actions.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:49:55pm

re: #89 Barefoot Grin

It’s interesting, because since I was still coming down off my wingnut days back then, I despised Greenwald and Snowden with everything I had in me. In retrospect, it was actually an eerie foreshadowing of who they really were the whole time. I guess a stopped clock really is right twice a day.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:50:58pm

re: #49 Punish Domestic Terrorists

George R.R. Martin Swears His Book Ending Will Be Different than Game of Thrones (The Mary Sue)

LOL!! The book will never see the light of day because GRRM will never finish it. He is doing everything other than working on TWOW. The storyline became so complicated he has lost the thread and cannot figure out how to pull everything together. The show ending is totally inconsistent with the prophesies and visions within the books.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:51:01pm

re: #90 Dopamine Fish

It’s interesting, because since I was still coming down off my wingnut days back then, I despised Greenwald and Snowden with everything I had in me. In retrospect, it was actually an eerie foreshadowing of who they really were the whole time. I guess a stopped clock really is right twice a day.

Thanks. I had never thought of it that way.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:52:37pm

re: #11 Amory Blaine

I’ve yet to see a video showing air marshals on one of these flights.

Air Marshals would cost a crapton of money for every flight.

Air Traffic By the Numbers (FAA)

The FAA notes they handle more than 45,000 flights a day (that would include private and military flights), or 16,405,000 a year.

They note there are over 10,000,000 scheduled passenger flights per year.

The real problem is that to have a society, everyone has to behave like they are in one. Feral conservatives and libertarians do not believe in societies or rules (they are on top and everyone else must obey, see “conservative religion” above).

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JC1  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:52:45pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

What are the absolute numbers? Going from 1 to 6 is meaningless; going from 250 to 1500 is worrisome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:52:55pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:53:13pm

re: #92 Barefoot Grin

Thanks. I had never thought of it that way.

This is why we keep friends of different persuasions. I teach you things, and you teach me things, and we both learn and grow together.

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Jay C  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:53:24pm

re: #87 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

No Glenn. Cucker Tarlson going there had nothing to do with it. I actually pay attention to things in other countries, and I have a friend that lives near Oradea in Romania, which is on the border with Hungary. She has family ties to both sides of the border and when she was younger planned to move to Hungary.

Now she’s desperately trying to raise funds to immigrate to the US or Canada and GTFO of that area.

Yeah, of course: nobody in the media has reported on Hungary’s slo-mo descent into fascistic nationalism for years — until Tucker Carlson went there, and then they picked up on it just to piss Glenn Greenwald off….

///

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:54:19pm

re: #90 Dopamine Fish

It’s interesting, because since I was still coming down off my wingnut days back then, I despised Greenwald and Snowden with everything I had in me. In retrospect, it was actually an eerie foreshadowing of who they really were the whole time. I guess a stopped clock really is right twice a day.

I’ve worked in the National Security field since right after 9/11.

I’ve had clearance. Snowden grabbing a dump of data from the NSA and immediately running to China with it instead of like… Sweden or some shit, spoke volumes to me about how much *not* a whistleblower he actually was. When he then ran to Putin’s arms, it was just double verification of that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:55:28pm

re: #98 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’ve worked in the National Security field since right after 9/11.

I’ve had clearance. Snowden grabbing a dump of data from the NSA and immediately running to China with it instead of like… Sweden or some shit, spoke volumes to me about how much *not* a whistleblower he actually was. When he then ran to Putin’s arms, it was just double verification of that.

Having not one of your qualifications, that was my take from day one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:58:13pm
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JC1  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:58:46pm

re: #98 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’ve worked in the National Security field since right after 9/11.

I’ve had clearance. Snowden grabbing a dump of data from the NSA and immediately running to China with it instead of like… Sweden or some shit, spoke volumes to me about how much *not* a whistleblower he actually was. When he then ran to Putin’s arms, it was just double verification of that.

Not a fan of Snowden deciding to run. But, realistically, his options were China, Russia, and NK; maybe Iran. US would have gotten him out of any other country.

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CleverToad  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:58:48pm

re: #312 steve_davis

“what’ll you have?” the bartender asks.
“I’ve no idea,” says the hedgehog. “I’m supposed to be in a Led Zeppelin song. I’m only here because of autocorrect.” (if there’s a bustle in your hedgehog, don’t be alarmed now….)

If there’s a bustle ON your hedgehog, however…

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:59:07pm

RV stuff

Well here’s the power relay that has to be replaced.

Also opened up the batter compartment up further to facilitate repairs.

Dumb Dumb here bought the wrong length of wire rolls* and fell at best, about a foot short on the vehicle recharge circut. Sigh. So no new wire got pulled today. 30 ft rolls ordered. Should be here next Monday. But on the other hand, opening up the entire section allowed me to better evaluate the damage and remove wiring I didn’t realize was damaged.

I wanted to remove the power converter (upper right hand corner), but found out that it wasn’t only a brute force 12 VDC power supply (as I suspected), but the F-ing distribution point for ALL 12 VDC, regardless of source. Sigh.

Will update when the parts come in and I get them installed.

BTW, Favorite this, and all further posts if you really want to archive what the hell I’m doing. Why you would want to do so escapes me, but have at it.

* The wire will be used for other circuits that were damaged, so it’s not not going to wasted.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:59:30pm

It should be noted that Cory supports Snowden….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 5:59:45pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:01:10pm

re: #101 JC1

Not a fan of Snowden deciding to run. But, realistically, his options were China, Russia, and NK; maybe Iran. US would have gotten him out of any other country.

Which a genuine whistleblower would have understood and accepted as the risk of reporting responsibly. Taking classified intel and leaking it to countries who are dubious friends at best is not going to win friends and influence people.

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danarchy  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:02:26pm

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Air Marshals would cost a crapton of money for every flight.

Air Traffic By the Numbers (FAA)

The FAA notes they handle more than 45,000 flights a day (that would include private and military flights), or 16,405,000 a year.

They note there are over 10,000,000 scheduled passenger flights per year.

The real problem is that to have a society, everyone has to behave like they are in one. Feral conservatives and libertarians do not believe in societies or rules (they are on top and everyone else must obey, see “conservative religion” above).

You tend to label anyone who behaves badly a feral conservative wether there is any actual evidence in the story or not. I would like to point out that criming and assholishness are mostly nonpartisan.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:02:54pm

This is a great interview with Simone Biles.
The whole time I was thinking 2 things:
1. She is really gorgeous.
2. How did she get such long hair? It doesn’t look like a wig.

Simone Biles Debunks Every Gymnastics Myth | Glamour

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:03:35pm
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JC1  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:04:22pm

re: #106 Dopamine Fish

Which a genuine whistleblower would have understood and accepted as the risk of reporting responsibly. Taking classified intel and leaking it to countries who are dubious friends at best is not going to win friends and influence people.

Absolutely. That’s why I said that I wasn’t a fan of his running. Once he decided to run, countries like Sweden were not a realistic option, is all I’m trying to say

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:04:58pm

re: #110 JC1

Absolutely. That’s why I said that I wasn’t a fan of his running. Once he decided to run, countries like Sweden were not a realistic option, is all I’m trying to say

Ah, now I comprehend and agree completely.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:07:20pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s my dad’s age and apparently nearly in the same level of dementia. How are they going to pull this off, I wonder. (Ignoring the stupid protesters.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:07:57pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:08:56pm

That’s a decapitated Groot between them. They’ve relocated a lot of stuff from tables and shelves to the floor, and that 3D print clearly had a weak layer. They were batting his head around earlier.

Mork & Mindy
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:09:54pm

re: #101 JC1

Not a fan of Snowden deciding to run. But, realistically, his options were China, Russia, and NK; maybe Iran. US would have gotten him out of any other country.

They wouldn’t swoop him off the street and send him back in a couple of days though. There’s a legal process to go through. If he was trying to get information out, he just needed enough time to do that and sympathetic journalists or government officials somewhere.

That said there’s a very long list of countries with no extradition that are not adversarial to the US. They aren’t all nice places, but frankly Russia isn’t a resort either.

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piratedan  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:12:57pm

re: #101 JC1

his options were actually following the whistleblower policy and if that didn’t feel “safe”, he could have sit in the office of any house of representative member (even of the opposition party) and made his case.

I absolutely do not buy that the only choices he had were US enemies….

and I don’t want to imply that certain elements of our government are pristine and free of any chicanery or potential abuse… but the idea of a “patriotic outing” with the very foreign states who are even worse abusers of said civil rights is untenable.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:13:28pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Any of them the anti-vax crisis actors that have been outed?

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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:13:56pm

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not asking for every flight. One would be nice..

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CleverToad  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:17:13pm

My husband retired from Kroger/King Soopers; son is working for Safeway — same union, Rocky Mountain UFCW Local 7. Was probably more amused than I ought to be to see in the union newsletter that they have a Cannabis Division, talking about the dispensaries and grow outfits they now represent.

Said it was an industry when I saw the first ‘green’ job fairs a few years ago. Now that the guys with suits are running it, the unions are coming in to protect the workers. DC needs to give up and grant these businesses full banking privileges already — that genie ain’t going back in the bottle.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:19:05pm

re: #116 piratedan

his options were actually following the whistleblower policy and if that didn’t feel “safe”, he could have sit in the office of any house of representative member (even of the opposition party) and made his case.

Obviously this should have been his first choice. A non-adversarial country as a temporary stop before returning should be plan B.

Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Syria, etc… shouldn’t have been an option ever.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:19:30pm

re: #114 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That’s a decapitated Groot between them. They’ve relocated a lot of stuff from tables and shelves to the floor, and that 3D print clearly had a weak layer. They were batting his head around earlier.

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What program do you use for designing prints?

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plansbandc  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:22:04pm

re: #90 Dopamine Fish

I’ve been pretty much a middle of the road Dem for awhile now and I think Snowden is a traitor. Also, I despise Greenwald. Have since he became “famous”.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 3, 2021 • 6:22:20pm

re: #121 Amory Blaine

What program do you use for designing prints?

I’ve only designed simple objects using Blender, which is free, but you could design anything in it. I’m mostly printing objects from Thingiverse and Cults3D.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Aug 3, 2021 • 7:37:53pm

2010: USMC Museum

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 3, 2021 • 7:38:17pm

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