Caution, Master Shredders at Work: Jack & Owane, "U.T.F.F." (Feat Henrik Linder)

Caution, Master Shredders at Work: Jack & Owane, “U.T.F.F.” (Feat Henrik Linder)

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Get this song at owane.bandcamp.com

Heeyy, here’s a single from an upcoming release me and Jack Gardiner did together! After helping him with his album and neural DSP demos we realised that working together was kinda fun, so we decided to make an album/EP together. It’s coming out on Friday 13th (next week) !

Then we had this crazy idea to ask Henrik Linder to join us for a track and he said yes. That was pretty crazy considering he’s been a childhood hero for both of us. Huge thanks to Henrik for adding a new dimension to the track!

Henrik Linder: Bass
@Jack Gardiner: Guitar
Owane: some Guitar and Keys.

Thanks to Sunniva Nilsen and Fran Cruz for filming us!

Henrik Linder:
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Jack Gardiner:
jack-gardiner.co.uk
youtube.com
instagram.com

Owane:
instagram.com

#HenrikLinder #JackGardiner #Owane

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258 comments

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Aug 5, 2021 • 8:37:34pm

re: #197 teleskiguy

The landscape in the west is being transformed by these fires.

And the cause - the continued aridification of the previously wetter highlands of the west - is a long term trend.

Eventually, the impact of natural disasters will force some deep re-think of how we live in this country.

Hecuba's daughter Aug 5, 2021 • 8:40:25pm

Trumpster family and friends keep on sending me or posting FB comments about the border and immigrants infected with Covid being released without any restrictions. The stories all arise from GOP officials, Faux News, New York Post, Washington Examiner, Townhall, and other sterling members of RW media. Does anyone have information about this issue from legitimate sources?

Belafon Aug 5, 2021 • 8:41:46pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“If we can’t get climate change under control, then Californians will be forced to move to Texas.”

William Lewis Aug 5, 2021 • 8:42:58pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The landscape in the west is being transformed by these fires.

And the cause - the continued aridification of the previously wetter highlands of the west - is a long term trend.

Eventually, the impact of natural disasters will force some deep re-think of how we live in this country.

Won’t be long and the midwestern National Guard units will need to be protecting the Great Lakes from assholes who would pump the water elsewhere via pipelines.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Aug 5, 2021 • 8:43:26pm

One year change shows hard significant the widespread drought has come to be:

Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo Aug 5, 2021 • 8:48:21pm

teleskiguy Aug 5, 2021 • 8:58:41pm

Instagram

Squaw Valley’s @afox_inspots throwing a 700’ backflip over the Mt Baker, WA road gap in January 2018.
Dayum… 😱

Dread Pirate Ron Aug 5, 2021 • 9:06:20pm

YouTube

Disclaimer, I have a Bolton Blackbird.

teleskiguy Aug 5, 2021 • 9:15:38pm

Update on the local road to the next town.

Detour Through Steamboat Springs Around I-70 Closure Is Preferred

sagehen Aug 5, 2021 • 9:16:53pm

re: #2 Hecuba’s daughter

Trumpster family and friends keep on sending me or posting FB comments about the border and immigrants infected with Covid being released without any restrictions. The stories all arise from GOP officials, Faux News, New York Post, Washington Examiner, Townhall, and other sterling members of RW media. Does anyone have information about this issue from legitimate sources?

adults and families, if they’re caught, are sent back. (still on special Covid-related rules, so they’re not getting the asylum hearings and such).

Unaccompanied minors are held in US custody until some US-based relative can come to claim them. (this is slow going; the Trump admin was using it as flypaper to catch undocumented relatives and deport them too, it’s hard to get undocumented relatives to trust that the Biden admin isn’t doing the same).

JOE 🥓 Aug 5, 2021 • 9:18:22pm

The motherfathers are going to try it again.

Trump ally announces date of next event: ‘We’re going back to the Capitol’

But now, a Trump ally is announcing his own event for Sept. 18. The Huffington Post cited the architect, Matt Braynard as he spoke to Steve Bannon on a recent podcast. “We’re going back to the Capitol, right where it started. And it’s going to be huge,” Braynard promised.

“As we continue to raise the profiles of these individuals” who have been arrested, it “makes it harder and harder for the left’s phony narrative about an insurrection to stick,” Braynard said. “We’re going to push back on the phony narrative that there was an insurrection.”

huffpost.com

This time I hope they come face to face with thousands of National Guardsmen…

JOE 🥓 Aug 5, 2021 • 9:22:30pm

Doctor blisters Lindsay Graham.

Doctor drops the mic on Lindsey Graham — and says he’s a better Trump ‘golf caddy’ than a senator

Targetpractice Aug 5, 2021 • 9:36:16pm

re: #12 JOE 🥓

Doctor blisters Lindsay Graham.

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Lindsey Graham is living proof that it is entirely possible to walk upright without a spine.

A Three Hour Tour Aug 5, 2021 • 9:44:36pm

re: #11 JOE 🥓

The motherfathers are going to try it again.

Trump ally announces date of next event: ‘We’re going back to the Capitol’

But now, a Trump ally is announcing his own event for Sept. 18. The Huffington Post cited the architect, Matt Braynard as he spoke to Steve Bannon on a recent podcast. “We’re going back to the Capitol, right where it started. And it’s going to be huge,” Braynard promised.

“As we continue to raise the profiles of these individuals” who have been arrested, it “makes it harder and harder for the left’s phony narrative about an insurrection to stick,” Braynard said. “We’re going to push back on the phony narrative that there was an insurrection.”

huffpost.com

Trumpers determined to strike in U.S.

teleskiguy Aug 5, 2021 • 9:48:16pm

Well shit.

An outbreak at Red Rocks shows.https://t.co/lrhbwcYzOE

— @denverwestword (@DenverWestword) August 5, 2021

Targetpractice Aug 5, 2021 • 9:50:32pm

re: #11 JOE 🥓

The motherfathers are going to try it again.

Trump ally announces date of next event: ‘We’re going back to the Capitol’

But now, a Trump ally is announcing his own event for Sept. 18. The Huffington Post cited the architect, Matt Braynard as he spoke to Steve Bannon on a recent podcast. “We’re going back to the Capitol, right where it started. And it’s going to be huge,” Braynard promised.

“As we continue to raise the profiles of these individuals” who have been arrested, it “makes it harder and harder for the left’s phony narrative about an insurrection to stick,” Braynard said. “We’re going to push back on the phony narrative that there was an insurrection.”

huffpost.com

This time I hope they come face to face with thousands of National Guardsmen…

No need to worry, I’m sure they’ll be well-behaved, unarmed, tourists who just want to see the inside of the Capital Building, break into the Speaker’s office, and climb like monkeys from the balcony of the House chambers.

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stpaulbear Aug 5, 2021 • 10:15:05pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Well shit.

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Covid outbreaks at summer concerts will be the least surprising surprise ever. My sister from WI is coming to town for the Green Day tour and wants to get together with the family the next day. I’m really reluctant to attend even though we’re all vaccinated. Can’t help but think her nose will be loaded up w/ Covid.

retired cynic Aug 5, 2021 • 10:19:08pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

Covid outbreaks at summer concerts will be the least surprising surprise ever. My sister from WI is coming to town for the Green Day tour and wants to get together with the family the next day. I’m really reluctant to attend even though we’re all vaccinated. Can’t help but think her nose will be loaded up w/ Covid.

Try and fix the family gathering for the day before… I know; schedules already set. Sigh.

stpaulbear Aug 5, 2021 • 10:23:04pm

We finally got some rain this evening. While closing windows I found a bat hanging from the miniblinds in my spare bedroom/music room. He was asleep and easy to catch with a towel so I hope he stays outside now. No idea how he got in.

teleskiguy Aug 5, 2021 • 10:26:17pm

Anyone who loves North Central California has known for a while that they were living in a doomed land. But it’s a whole ‘nother thing to watch it die.

— Robert Evans (The Only Robert Evans) (@IwriteOK) August 6, 2021

stpaulbear Aug 5, 2021 • 10:29:15pm

re: #18 retired cynic

Try and fix the family gathering for the day before… I know; schedules already set. Sigh.

I’ll talk to her about it but she’s got her trip pretty scripted to see as many friends as possible.

JOE 🥓 Aug 5, 2021 • 10:29:53pm

Shut your mouth Crackhead Mike.

He’s over the edge. He’s inciting violence. He’s got to be arrested and shut down!

Mike Lindell is most definitely NOT a “reformed” crack addict. https://t.co/h4i1tsa9EN

— 💀 Scary Larry 💀 🇺🇸🌊✊🏻🗽 (@StompTheGOP) August 6, 2021

DesertDenizen Aug 5, 2021 • 10:32:14pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

My 69 year old father is going to Sturgis to meet his older brother and several of my cousins. Even vaccinated I think it’s a bad call. He was just at the races in Monterey, but that’s a very different crowd than Sturgis. I’m hoping he comes back alright.

mmmirele Aug 5, 2021 • 10:33:13pm

The goal had been to bring back operations and contact center people after Labor Day and then the rest of us in October. Well, that’s been pushed back a month due to the Delta variant.

Nope. In fact, my evil too big to fail employer sent an email this week out stating the staged return to the office was being pushed back a month due to the Delta variant.

People are going to push back against going into the office just so they can get sick.

— (((Dee *still a Professional Cat Herder* Holmes))) (@mmmirele) August 5, 2021

And just from chatting with people around work, it appears there is a great deal of resistance to going back to the office. One of my coworkers actually said, out load, in a team meeting, “I am not going back to the office!”

JOE 🥓 Aug 5, 2021 • 10:36:44pm

A test run of Mike Lindell’s computer captured in this behind-the-scenes photo. pic.twitter.com/WxpIBJww31

— Bob (@Asintope) August 6, 2021

Dread Pirate Ron Aug 5, 2021 • 10:36:48pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

That area west of Chester (NW of Greenville) is a wonderful area with lots of unimproved USFS campgrounds and the North Fork of the Feather River.

stpaulbear Aug 5, 2021 • 10:37:59pm

re: #22 JOE 🥓

Shut your mouth Crackhead Mike.

He’s over the edge. He’s inciting violence. He’s got to be arrested and shut down!

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Now that he’s pulled his money from Fox, he’s advertising on a Twin Cities mom&pop FM oldies sration that I like. They’ve gotten a couple of intense email messages from me over the last few days. I want to convince them to drop Lindell. I hope other listeners are complaining too.

sagehen Aug 5, 2021 • 10:43:14pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

The price of pot is going to go way up, isn’t it? Towns and homes and wilderness being destroyed, the news has covered that pretty thoroughly. But the loss of California’s #1 cash crop, I haven’t seen a word mentioned.

austin_blue Aug 5, 2021 • 10:43:55pm

re: #23 DesertDenizen

My 69 year old father is going to Sturgis to meet his older brother and several of my cousins. Even vaccinated I think it’s a bad call. He was just at the races in Monterey, but that’s a very different crowd than Sturgis. I’m hoping he comes back alright.

It’s a bad call. Do what you can to convince your dad to see his brother before, not at, Sturgis. It was a Superspreader event last year. It’s going to be Death On Two Legs this year.

DodgerFan1988 Aug 5, 2021 • 10:44:18pm

Breaking: The people who didn’t care if your kids were gunned down in school, don’t care if your kids contract Covid in school.

— Poetic Justice (@PoeticJ59274248) August 5, 2021

sagehen Aug 5, 2021 • 10:46:43pm

Of course they don’t. Their kids go to private school. If they’re not being home-schooled.

Dread Pirate Ron Aug 5, 2021 • 10:49:45pm

re: #28 sagehen

The price of pot is going to way up, isn’t it? Towns and homes and wilderness being destroyed, the news has covered that pretty thoroughly. But the loss of California’s #1 cash crop, I haven’t seen a word mentioned.

Yes. I checked today to place an order in the next two days and I’d say 1/8 oz of premium weed has jumped from $50 to $72. I’m buying bulk bargains this time, trying to keep it above 25% THC.

Targetpractice Aug 5, 2021 • 10:52:01pm

Had my Karen/White Privilege moment of the week…

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DesertDenizen Aug 5, 2021 • 10:57:36pm

re: #29 austin_blue

The kicker is that none of them live near Sturgis. Dad is here in Arizona, his brother and one cousin are in Seattle, and the other cousin is in Bismarck. They’re all motorcycle guys, but none of them are Harley guys. They’ve only been going the last few years or so. I don’t get it.

stpaulbear Aug 5, 2021 • 11:00:45pm

I listened to Dr Otserholm’s Covid podcast today and was informed that my kn-95 mask didn’t do shit as long as I keep my beard, even if it’s trimmed close. Now I’m feeling like an anti-masker because I can’t bring myself to dump the (very trim) beard. I was also told that ANY stubble also zeros out the mask. Wash your hands, shave your face.

William Lewis Aug 5, 2021 • 11:08:52pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

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William Lewis Aug 5, 2021 • 11:09:37pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

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stpaulbear Aug 5, 2021 • 11:11:43pm

G’nite all.

No Malarkey! Aug 5, 2021 • 11:17:42pm

A grim thread of children/young people suffering from Covid.

🚨Arkansas confirms two child deaths from COVID. The first pediatric COVID-19 death happened at the end of last year but took time to confirm. The second death happened THIS MONTH. 12 kids are currently hospitalized and 7 are CRITICALLY ILL. https://t.co/QUu61664Jo pic.twitter.com/x9PvpChn9k

— Cleavon MD 💉 (@Cleavon_MD) July 23, 2021

Dread Pirate Ron Aug 5, 2021 • 11:18:25pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Ha, I was going to quote a part of what you said and respond, but I got stoned and I forgot by the time I scrolled up to quote it…

Targetpractice Aug 5, 2021 • 11:18:47pm

re: #24 mmmirele

The goal had been to bring back operations and contact center people after Labor Day and then the rest of us in October. Well, that’s been pushed back a month due to the Delta variant.

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And just from chatting with people around work, it appears there is a great deal of resistance to going back to the office. One of my coworkers actually said, out load, in a team meeting, “I am not going back to the office!”

It’s all about control, it always is. The people who spend the least time in the office (assuming they have one) are trying to justify their jobs by making up BS arguments about “office culture.” But really most of those sounding off about this “need” to get people back in the office break down into one of two groups: Absentee landlords who are trying to justify the “investment” they’ve made in all sorts of employee “benefits’ (“Onsite cafeterias! Free booze! Pinball machines!”) in lieu of wages and the office tyrants who now have to justify their jobs when they can’t look busy “on the phone” or chewing out underlings for perceived shortcomings.

Targetpractice Aug 5, 2021 • 11:29:43pm

re: #36 William Lewis

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Dread Pirate Ron Aug 5, 2021 • 11:35:14pm

YouTube

Dread Pirate Ron Aug 5, 2021 • 11:42:21pm

YouTube

Targetpractice Aug 5, 2021 • 11:50:43pm

re: #40 Dread Pirate Ron

Ha, I was going to quote a part of what you said and respond, but I got stoned and I forgot by the time I scrolled up to quote it…

“I was gonna quote your post, but then I got high…”

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Aug 5, 2021 • 11:51:16pm

Voces8, Gabriella Swallow - Owens, Plano: Find Our Way (Arr. Clements)

Dr Lizardo Aug 6, 2021 • 12:34:38am

re: #35 stpaulbear

I listened to Dr Otserholm’s Covid podcast today and was informed that my kn-95 mask didn’t do shit as long as I keep my beard, even if it’s trimmed close. Now I’m feeling like an anti-masker because I can’t bring myself to dump the (very trim) beard. I was also told that ANY stubble also zeros out the mask. Wash your hands, shave your face.

I have a goatee and though I keep it well-groomed, I’ve had no problems with an N95 mask (or FFP2 as it’s called here) nor contracted any illnesses.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 12:41:46am

More violent wingnuts and police covering for them.

Specifically, a Christian who carried a rock into a Klamath Falls (Ore.) City Council meting threatening to stone a Black, gay assistant city manager to the city council.

Eric Osterberg, assistant to the city manager of Klamath Falls and staff lead for the Klamath Falls equity task force, was prepared to deliver the task force’s final report to the Klamath Falls city council. But before the meeting could start, things turned chaotic.

As Osterberg sat down in the chambers, a man sat next to him holding a rock about the size of his hand.

Osterberg, sensing that something was off, decided to say hello in an effort to deescalate the situation. But the man just grew more agitated, Osterberg said.

“I could tell something was bugging him,” Osterberg said.

Osterberg said the man told him: “Oh, so you think we are all racist? You think you are the second coming of Christ?”

Then, Osterberg said, the man accused him of spreading HIV and AIDS, and called him “blasphemous.” Osterberg is a gay Black man.

“You are a sinner and you need to be stoned. That is why I brought this stone,” Osterberg said the man told him.

The man was then escorted out of the building by Klamath Falls police chief Robert Dentinger, who was in the room when the incident happened.

(more at the Klamath Falls Herald and News)

Klamath Falls assistant city manager threatened with rock at council meeting

The police chief witnessed the entire incident. He escorted the violent Christian out of the city council meeting, then let him leave without any charges such as threatening a government official, disrupting a public meeting, or threatening murder.

The assistant city manager is leaving Klamath Falls to take a job with the city of Furgeson, Missouri next year.

“As of (Monday) night there was not enough information to arrest him,” Dentinger said. “But as things change, we are going to have to talk to him.”

Observed it directly, not enough information to arrest him.

The assistant city manager would probably be safer in Furgeson.

Dread Pirate Ron Aug 6, 2021 • 12:49:59am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They are a little bit off, there in the eastern half of Oregon.

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2021 • 12:53:38am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More violent wingnuts and police covering for them.

Specifically, a Christian who carried a rock into a Klamath Falls (Ore.) City Council meting threatening to stone a Black, gay assistant city manager to the city council.

(more at the Klamath Falls Herald and News)

Klamath Falls assistant city manager threatened with rock at council meeting

The police chief witnessed the entire incident. He escorted the violent Christian out of the city council meeting, then let him leave without any charges such as threatening a government official, disrupting a public meeting, or threatening murder.

The assistant city manager is leaving Klamath Falls to take a job with the city of Furgeson, Missouri next year.

Observed it directly, not enough information to arrest him.

The assistant city manager would probably be safer in Furgeson.

Because really, when has allowing crazed ravings from an obviously mentally ill person ever backfired on authorities?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 12:56:26am

re: #50 Targetpractice

Because really, when has allowing crazed ravings from an obviously mentally ill person ever backfired on authorities?

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Not mentally ill. Christian. Unless you are equating Christianity with mental illness. I don’t.

He didn’t get “stone the gay blasphemer” from mental illness.

About those Trump Voters for God? Stop Calling them “Fake Christians” (Christy Stroop)

coin operated Aug 6, 2021 • 1:01:27am

re: #49 Dread Pirate Ron

They are a little bit off, there in the eastern half of Oregon.

Liberal Oregon inhabits the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene. The rest of that state is as redneck as Arkansas. See also Grants Pass and Medford…not east, but just as redneck as their eastern brethren.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 1:02:42am

re: #52 coin operated

Liberal Oregon inhabits the I-5 corridor from Portland to Eugene. The rest of that state is as redneck as Arkansas. See also Grants Pass and Medford…not east, but just as redneck as their eastern brethren.

At one time Oregon had in its constitution that Black people could not live there. But Critical Race Theory is the real racism.

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2021 • 1:04:37am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not mentally ill. Christian. Unless you are equating Christianity with mental illness. I don’t.

He didn’t get “stone the gay blasphemer” from mental illness.

About those Trump Voters for God? Stop Calling them “Fake Christians” (Christy Stroop)

No offense, but I’ve found myself struggling more than once in the past 2 decades to find the clear separation between religious fanaticism and mental illness.

coin operated Aug 6, 2021 • 1:08:18am

re: #54 Targetpractice

No offense, but I’ve found myself struggling more than once in the past 2 decades to find the clear separation between religious fanaticism and mental illness.

Seconded.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 1:08:51am

re: #54 Targetpractice

No offense, but I’ve found myself struggling more than once in the past 2 decades to find the clear separation between religious fanaticism and mental illness.

Part of the issue can be described by anthropology. When any group feels threatened by one member or an outsider, any amount of pressure becomes justifiable to protect the group. Anything can be justified to protect the group, including murder.

It is not so much mental illness as it is misdirected self-protection. With the decline of religion in this country, we will have the same violence as other nations which have already gone through this.

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2021 • 1:27:36am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Part of the issue can be described by anthropology. When any group feels threatened by one member or an outsider, any amount of pressure becomes justifiable to protect the group. Anything can be justified to protect the group, including murder.

It is not so much mental illness as it is misdirected self-protection. With the decline of religion in this country, we will have the same violence as other nations which have already gone through this.

And for folks like our rock-wielding friend, statements like this:

Osterberg said the man told him: “Oh, so you think we are all racist? You think you are the second coming of Christ?”

Leaves me with the impression that this fellow isn’t just acting out of religious fervor.

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2021 • 1:56:57am

It’s nice to know that, at those times when I might start gaining some small, fleeting spark of hope for humanity, there are plenty of assholes in the world to snuff it out:

“I did make it a conditional gift, in the sense I requested it be willed to me upon their passing.” https://t.co/GDX6gXqvpB

— MarketWatch (@MarketWatch) July 30, 2021

tl;dr: Investor asshole had a small windfall and decided to “gift” a vintage car to his parents to enjoy in their last years. He makes sure to point out that he picked a car in good nick that wouldn’t need a lot of work instead of offloading a beater on their hands. But there was a tiny little agreement about them giving it back to him in their will when they passed on.

So he’s just recently found out that his brother and his father “secretly” agreed that the cost of any work done on the car should come out of his inheritance. And he’s basically asking if he’s the asshole for getting upset that his parents (who are on a fixed income) and his brother (who seems to have something resembling a heart in his chest) decided that he should get less inheritance for wanting them to cover the upkeep and repair costs on what he basically views as his car.

coin operated Aug 6, 2021 • 1:58:41am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It is not so much mental illness as it is misdirected self-protection.

I understand your attempt at nuance, but I’m gonna stick with “they’re crazy” on this one. Hanlon’s razor applied to religious fanaticism, if you will.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Aug 6, 2021 • 2:02:34am

Though much tamer than the film that inspired the TV show, the latter was still pretty open about sex for an early 1970’s broadcast TV series. Episode 1 of Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice :

Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice Season 1 Episode 1 Can I Help It If She s Crazy About Me

It didn’t do well, though. Perhaps even tamed down it was too upsetting to the American public.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Aug 6, 2021 • 2:05:20am

Should have more subscribers (currently only has 573.)

Marion Rampal: D’autres soleils

..

coin operated Aug 6, 2021 • 2:08:31am

re: #58 Targetpractice
Yes…he’s the asshole.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 2:23:32am

re: #57 Targetpractice

And for folks like our rock-wielding friend, statements like this:

Leaves me with the impression that this fellow isn’t just acting out of religious fervor.

Well, this seems a good time for me to insert my assertion that conservatism is a religion.

Targetpractice Aug 6, 2021 • 2:24:41am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, this seems a good time for me to insert my assertion that conservatism is a religion.

Can I get an amen?

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 2:26:42am

re: #59 coin operated

I understand your attempt at nuance, but I’m gonna stick with “they’re crazy” on this one. Hanlon’s razor applied to religious fanaticism, if you will.

My mother the psychologist says crazy is a technical term which should only be used by professionals.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 2:32:13am

(video, 0:58)

Yesterday, Eric Osterberg, a Klamath Falls (Oregon) official who is also gay and Black, was making a presentation about equity.

Before he did that, a Christian man threatened him, holding a rock, saying he deserved to be stoned.

Here’s Osterberg explaining what happened. pic.twitter.com/dstzoFkYFP

— Hemant Mehta (@hemantmehta) August 4, 2021

Don’t protect christian bigotry by pretending that something other than christian bigotry is at fault here.

— 🫖☕️ (@TiaRachel) August 4, 2021

Patricia Kayden Aug 6, 2021 • 2:44:36am

I’d be perfectly fine with this pic.twitter.com/aIwtodvgjg

— Short Woman™ (@VNFDBG_MA) August 3, 2021

steve_davis Aug 6, 2021 • 3:38:22am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not mentally ill. Christian. Unless you are equating Christianity with mental illness. I don’t.

He didn’t get “stone the gay blasphemer” from mental illness.

About those Trump Voters for God? Stop Calling them “Fake Christians” (Christy Stroop)

Yes, mentally ill. People don’t become mentally ill in a vacuum. And there’s nothing in the Bible I can remember about stoning gay people.

Patricia Kayden Aug 6, 2021 • 3:39:38am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And the White Christian who threatened to stone him wasn’t even arrested. Arghhhh!

Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 3:56:37am

Sheesh. Maybe I should just step out for a while.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 4:00:14am

re: #68 steve_davis

Yes, mentally ill. People don’t become mentally ill in a vacuum. And there’s nothing in the Bible I can remember about stoning gay people.

I suppose that depends on how each of ten thousand Christian sects, all of which interpret the Bible differently, interpret the lines about “lying with a man as a woman is an abomination to God.”

Manny Pacquiao posts Bible verse that states gay people should be killed (Los Angeles Times, February 18, 2016)

Manny Pacquiao is not backing down from his stance against homosexuality.

Less than a day after the Filipino boxer and politician lost his sponsorship deal with Nike because he compared gay people to animals, Pacquiao took to Instagram early Thursday morning and posted some Bible verses that support his views.

One of them, Leviticus 20:13, states in no uncertain terms that homosexuals should be killed:

“If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

(more)

The 6 Bible verses on homosexuality, and differing interpretations (MLive, Advance Publications, January 20, 2019)

Three of those verses are in the Old Testament, and three are in the New Testament.

Martin Luther’s idea of Protestantism was his sola scriptura approach (reading the Bible and living that is all you need to know to be true to God).

It is pretty much a given that each person reading any text will come up with different personal ideas of what it means (ask anyone who’s ever read poetry).

To be clear, there are other Christians who view those verses differently, or assert that the Bible is affirming of LGBT+ people.

It isn’t atheists who go around threatening LGBT+ people with death, try to prevent them from having jobs or marrying or adopting children; every bit of that is based on interpretations of the Bible which go back almost to the start of the religion itself.

It isn’t the large groups of Christians who are benign or affirming of other people’s rights who are a threat to the assistant city manager of Klamath Falls; its the large groups who aren’t.

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Aug 6, 2021 • 4:05:06am

I’m going to skeedaddle. It’s getting early, and the village should be switching on the birds soon.

Let’s hope things calm down with the fires out west.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Aug 6, 2021 • 4:12:06am

I’ve written before (a while back) about a favorite tune of mine, a single section of an otherwise unremarkable concertino by a little known composer, Salvador Bacarisse (died in 1963.)

The second movement is quite beautiful, and someone recently uploaded a recording of the whole concertino. I’ve started the video at the second movement (around 8:03 in the video):

Bacarisse “Concertino in A minor” Manuel Cubedo

Always thought that movement belonged in a movie somehow, either in a romance or perhaps a serious drama.

Anyway, if you want to play the whole thing the concertino is quite the puzzling exhibition of a composer going all over the place. The first movement sounds very classical (i.e., from the era of Mozart), while the fourth movement confuses me to no end (seems like Bacarisse was trying to be English?)

Barefoot Grin Aug 6, 2021 • 4:26:39am

Someone posted about “River” Dave, the hermit who lived along the Merrimack River in NH, who was put in jail for refusing to leave his self-made A-frame situated on someone else’s land.

Well, his home burned [was burned] down last night while he sits in jail, according to the morning paper. Fortunately, his belongings were mostly in a separate greenhouse, and his cats and chickens were safe.

No Malarkey! Aug 6, 2021 • 4:31:39am

I’ve been retweeting news to the local schools, in hopes they will see sense before maskless kids start spreading covid in our schools when they open August 12.

@OneTeamFCS There is still time to protect the children! https://t.co/jhZAYKv5lb

— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) August 6, 2021

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Aug 6, 2021 • 4:35:46am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The recording is this album:

discogs.com

The Youtube auto-generated description is wrong. The AI probably thought the recording was the better known releases (probably by Yepes.)

Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 4:45:41am

re: #25 JOE 🥓

A test run of Mike Lindell’s computer captured in this behind-the-scenes photo. pic.twitter.com/WxpIBJww31

— Bob (@Asintope) August 6, 2021

you can reset it with a hair pin

Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 4:55:30am

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Though much tamer than the film that inspired the TV show, the latter was still pretty open about sex for an early 1970’s broadcast TV series. Episode 1 of Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice :

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It didn’t do well, though. Perhaps even tamed down it was too upsetting to the American public.

bob & carol & ted & alice’s restaurant did much better

Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 4:59:20am

re: #74 Barefoot Grin

Someone posted about “River” Dave, the hermit who lived along the Merrimack River in NH, who was put in jail for refusing to leave his self-made A-frame situated on someone else’s land.

Well, his home burned [was burned] down last night while he sits in jail, according to the morning paper. Fortunately, his belongings were mostly in a separate greenhouse, and his cats and chickens were safe.

Hampstead, sort of

jeffreyw Aug 6, 2021 • 5:00:07am

Good morning!

Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 5:01:47am

if they can be kept in the dark and there is no efficient and timely discovery and enforcement mechanism, then ‘the three branches of government system’ is a fiction

Politico: “The newly released documents provide the first-ever look at the inner workings of how that money was moved around — and it’s not a pretty sight for congressional committees, which were left in the dark and denied basic answers about the accounting maneuvers. The Defense Department ignored statutory language in the appropriations laws specifying how the dollars were to be used. Millions of dollars were moved to never-before-seen ‘project lines’ created by the Comptroller and then written into the military services’ construction budgets without the knowledge of Congress.”

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 5:01:52am

Not quite the direction I expected birtherism to go. https://t.co/IOMimRlCNY

— Esoteric Geoff (@agraybee) August 5, 2021

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 5:02:59am

President Biden: “I’ve got a commitment from [GM CEO Mary Barra], when they make the first electric Corvette, I get to drive it… You think I’m kidding, I’m not kidding.” pic.twitter.com/sypl9G7a5U

— The Hill (@thehill) August 5, 2021

Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 5:03:26am

if desantis can…

Washington Post: “The Biden administration is considering using federal regulatory powers and the threat of withholding federal funds from institutions to push more Americans to get vaccinated — a huge potential shift in the fight against the virus and a far more muscular approach to getting shots into arms, according to four people familiar with the deliberations.”

“The effort could apply to institutions as varied as long-term care facilities, cruise ships and universities, potentially impacting millions of Americans, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations. The conversations are in the early phases and no firm decisions have been made, the people said. One outside lawyer in touch with the Biden administration on the issue is recommending that the president use federal powers sparingly.”

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 5:04:20am

Even mandates are science:

Are vaccine mandates lawful and ethical? The short answer is emphatically yes. And there is strong behavioral science evidence that mandates will be highly effective. | Analysis by @LawrenceGostin https://t.co/eCCQ4EpCH3

— Scientific American (@sciam) August 5, 2021

Barefoot Grin Aug 6, 2021 • 5:05:56am

re: #79 Dangerman

Hampstead, sort of

That was one I had intended to see and never got around to.

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 5:06:48am

Biden administration to offer vaccine to migrants in U.S. custody along Mexico border https://t.co/6eLiIxm1H0

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) August 3, 2021

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 5:08:14am

Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis can happen 2-10 yrs after having measles. The long term potential for badness from COVID-19 is quite high.

People’s shoddy risk calculus around vaccines causing unknown future side effects is maddening.

— David Cox (@neurobongo) August 5, 2021

Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 5:09:05am

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

That was one I had intended to see and never got around to.

small, predictable, “nice” movie

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 5:11:40am

re: #24 mmmirele

The goal had been to bring back operations and contact center people after Labor Day and then the rest of us in October. Well, that’s been pushed back a month due to the Delta variant.

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And just from chatting with people around work, it appears there is a great deal of resistance to going back to the office. One of my coworkers actually said, out load, in a team meeting, “I am not going back to the office!”

Amazon delays office return until 2022 as Covid spreads https://t.co/JMxIRXHhqr

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) August 6, 2021

Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 6, 2021 • 5:17:29am

Not cool, Apple:

The unanimity with which privacy experts oppose this move by Apple is striking. There’s no question, this concession leads to endless government pressure for more. https://t.co/RYhKhWpAQT

— Parker Higgins (@xor) August 5, 2021

Apple plans for iOS 15 to scan for kiddie porn.

lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 5:28:05am

re: #5 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And those weather changes out West has downstream effects - warmer weather out west means warmer temps as the Jet Stream moves that hot air mass around. It means warmer and more humid air in the East Coast, which means more energy in the atmosphere for storms to develop - thunderstorms, tornadoes, and even energy that tropical storm systems can tap into.

Just this year, we saw a tropical storm hit the Gulf Coast, and it remained tropical storm strength despite being overland for more than 48 hours. That’s a bad omen.

No Malarkey! Aug 6, 2021 • 5:46:04am

943,000 new jobs in July! bls.gov

lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 6:06:26am

re: #93 No Malarkey!

Fox: these businesses are struggling to find workers because federal benefits exist.

Next, after the bump, listen to Joe Trumpist at generic diner speak about how he can’t find workers for his restaurant at his wage point.

Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 6:14:23am

re: #24 mmmirele

Only the sociopaths. Murdoch’s rag only speaks for the sociopaths. Sane leaders are requiring vaccination, and have pushed back opening to give employees with paranoid delusions time to get their heads together and get vaccinated. Even then, we’ll work from home most days.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) August 6, 2021

Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 6:17:29am

re: #91 Eric The Fruit Bat

Not cool, Apple:

Apple plans for iOS 15 to scan for kiddie porn.

Apple offers a walled garden. There’s nothing wrong with a company with that approach doing something like this. People who want an open system do not use Apple products.

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 6:29:41am

re: #96 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Apple offers a walled garden. There’s nothing wrong with a company with that approach doing something like this. People who want an open system do not use Apple products.

Next up: a virus that drops child porn onto your phone.

Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 6:32:16am

7 states now account for 1/2 of all new cases & more than 1/2 of the new hospitalizations.

They are the lowest states in vaccinations.

— Andy Slavitt 🇺🇸💉 (@ASlavitt) August 5, 2021

JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 6:33:38am

re: #68 steve_davis

Yes, mentally ill. People don’t become mentally ill in a vacuum. And there’s nothing in the Bible I can remember about stoning gay people.

No. They just get put to death.

thebricktestament.com

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 6:36:24am

NEW: Senate infrastructure bill sets stage for $14 billion effort to boost broadband affordability, the most significant such push in a generation. That includes extending pandemic rebate, albeit at a lower cost.

a deep dive from me + @Cat_Zakrzewski: https://t.co/jKubWv8AOW

— Tony Romm (@TonyRomm) August 5, 2021

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 6:39:31am

re: #93 No Malarkey!

943,000 new jobs in July! bls.gov

Republicans will claim that their states killing the unemployment bonus is what contributed to this, you know. They always have an answer to everything, the lying bastards.

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steve_davis Aug 6, 2021 • 6:39:51am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suppose that depends on how each of ten thousand Christian sects, all of which interpret the Bible differently, interpret the lines about “lying with a man as a woman is an abomination to God.”

Manny Pacquiao posts Bible verse that states gay people should be killed (Los Angeles Times, February 18, 2016)

(more)

The 6 Bible verses on homosexuality, and differing interpretations (MLive, Advance Publications, January 20, 2019)

Three of those verses are in the Old Testament, and three are in the New Testament.

Martin Luther’s idea of Protestantism was his sola scriptura approach (reading the Bible and living that is all you need to know to be true to God).

It is pretty much a given that each person reading any text will come up with different personal ideas of what it means (ask anyone who’s ever read poetry).

To be clear, there are other Christians who view those verses differently, or assert that the Bible is affirming of LGBT+ people.

It isn’t atheists who go around threatening LGBT+ people with death, try to prevent them from having jobs or marrying or adopting children; every bit of that is based on interpretations of the Bible which go back almost to the start of the religion itself.

It isn’t the large groups of Christians who are benign or affirming of other people’s rights who are a threat to the assistant city manager of Klamath Falls; its the large groups who aren’t.

well, according to Paul, lying with a woman is an abomination to God, but boys will be boys, so better to marry and lie with a woman than burn. Most Christians manage some nuance about this stuff.

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 6:40:40am

So the big T said I was ban-hammered for ‘targeted harrassment’ - which means I pissed off the wrong Republican and got swarm-reported - probably for a four year old tweet because I completely changed my social media tune two years ago once I started working for a financial institution.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Aug 6, 2021 • 6:41:32am

re: #11 JOE 🥓

The motherfathers are going to try it again.

Trump ally announces date of next event: ‘We’re going back to the Capitol’

This time I hope they come face to face with thousands of National Guardsmen…

They want a high-profile confrontation.

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 6:44:42am

Yesterday, the French Constitutional Council, the country’s highest court, validated most of the controversial new law aimed at curbing the spread of Covid.
Starting Monday, customers at bars, cafes and restaurants will have to show their ‘Pass Sanitiare’ (Health Pass) or proof of a recent negative Covid test before being served, inside or outside. The vax pass will also be required at shopping centers, department stores, movies, theaters, concert halls, stadiums, amusement parks and other public venues. Passengers travelling on trains, buses and planes will also be required to show their pass.

The court also validated mandatory vaccination for all caregivers, a labor category that includes health care workers and firefighters.

However, a provision that would have allowed employers to fire unvaccinated employees was struck down on a technicality, since it would have applied only to temporary workers and the court decided it would be discriminatory, since it didn’t apply to permanent workers, as well.

The firefighters unions fought hard against giving employers a right to fire unvaccinated workers and they may see this part of the court’s decision as a victory for them, but they lost on another front. The court validated the provisions that allow employers to suspend unvaccinated workers without pay.

The court also rejected a provision that called for mandatory isolation of individuals who test positive for Covid, reasoning that a one-size-fits-all requirement isn’t an appropriate solution.

In additional noteworthy comments, the court acknowledged that the ‘Health Pass’ curtails individual liberties, such as the freedom to come and go as one pleases, but that the public health emergency has precedence over concerns about that.

dailykos.com

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 6:48:02am

NEW: United Airlines mandates Covid-19 vaccines for all employees

— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) August 6, 2021

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 6:49:14am

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 6:50:28am

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 6:50:43am

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 6:51:25am

Get Covid now, ask me how!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 6:53:53am

re: #106 Belafon

My friend who has some brain damage caught Covid because United didn’t provide a safe environment and insisted that people sit on their asses at work while planes weren’t flying early in the pandemic rather than stay home.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 6:56:47am

re: #110 darthstar

Get Covid now, ask me how!

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Probably sold out in a day

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 7:00:08am

re: #2 Hecuba’s daughter

Trumpster family and friends keep on sending me or posting FB comments about the border and immigrants infected with Covid being released without any restrictions. The stories all arise from GOP officials, Faux News, New York Post, Washington Examiner, Townhall, and other sterling members of RW media. Does anyone have information about this issue from legitimate sources?

The Conservatives in my family know better than to send me that kind of garbage, and have dropped off of Facebook during the Trump disaster since it threatened their worldview when their Facebook friends weren’t all delusional.

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lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 7:01:21am

re: #110 darthstar

So, they’re going to convince people to mask with something wholly ineffective, because it’ll look like they’re complying, instead of like… complying with masking or getting vaccinations at no out of pocket cost to them.

These people are fucking nuts, on top of being grifters out to fleece the rubes and uninformed (of which there are a metric fuckton because Fox has rotted their brains).

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Dr Lizardo Aug 6, 2021 • 7:01:32am

Looks like Clint Eastwood has a new film coming out next month.

Still working at 91. I can only hope I’m still that active if I make it that far.

CRY MACHO – Official Trailer

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A Mom Anon Aug 6, 2021 • 7:02:14am

re: #106 Belafon

Better late than never? Sigh. I am beyond frustrated by this. They could have done this from the time the vaccine became available. The federal government also can dictate what rules are followed on a plane and in an airport. We’re headed towards the end of the second year of this.

I don’t get the medical facilities or elder/disability care places that have or are allowing workers to be unvaccinated. Just NOW it’s a problem? And schools? OMG I can’t. Our county of dipshits just had to go from “no one has to be vaccinated or wear a mask unless they want to” to “suggesting” that every one be masked and get shots. I honestly think two things are at work here. First is just stupid wingnuts infiltrating the county level offices from schools to mayors to city councils,etc. The second is the sane elected officials are getting death threats, people showing up at their homes, threatening their kids, doxxing, etc. There has to be public pushback, but fear is holding it back. Plus most of us have pandemic related financial and health issues to consider too. I don’t know how we fight back when the institutions designed to run things and keep us safe have caved to this bullying and fear.

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 7:03:37am

re: #2 Hecuba’s daughter

Trumpster family and friends keep on sending me or posting FB comments about the border and immigrants infected with Covid being released without any restrictions. The stories all arise from GOP officials, Faux News, New York Post, Washington Examiner, Townhall, and other sterling members of RW media. Does anyone have information about this issue from legitimate sources?

talkingpointsmemo.com

How Right-Wingers Used A Single Whataburger Meal To Blame Immigrants For COVID

In a filing in federal court Monday, the state of Texas argued that Gov. Greg Abbott (R) was justified in ordering state troopers to pull over anyone they thought was driving undocumented immigrants — because of one family’s meal at a Whataburger in South Texas.

Immigrant families, the state said, posed a deadly threat to Texans.

“Consider, for example, a family of migrants released in La Joya, Texas,” lawyers for the state wrote. “The family went to a public restaurant and began ‘coughing and sneezing without covering their mouths.’” The family in question told police they had COVID-19, the filing noted.

Nonetheless, that singular meal has now become a national anti-immigrant talking point.

On Thursday, the columnist Laura Hollis cited the Whataburger meal in a column describing immigration as “a government-sponsored invasion” and “an existential threat.”

Since last Tuesday, the meal has been mentioned more than a dozen times on Fox News, including on Tucker Carlson’s program, seen by millions of viewers.

“The Biden administration is still shuttling foreign nationals throughout our country without checking to see if they’ve been vaccinated against COVID,” Carlson said, introducing the story. “Some of them carry it.”

Separately on Fox News, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) and Abbott himself have all addressed the Whataburger scare.

“That’s exactly why I issued this executive order,” Abbott said after describing the La Joya case.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 7:08:16am

Yes, to Americans who are not fascists, fascism is wrong, but the Republicans have completed their radicalization, and are now fascists who hallucinate communists to justify any atrocity they may want to commit. They’re not loyal Americans anymore, and haven’t been for years.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) August 6, 2021

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:09:01am

re: #114 lawhawk

So, they’re going to convince people to mask with something wholly ineffective, because it’ll look like they’re complying, instead of like… complying with masking or getting vaccinations at no out of pocket cost to them.

These people are fucking nuts, on top of being grifters out to fleece the rubes and uninformed (of which there are a metric fuckton because Fox has rotted their brains).

Like wearing a “novelty” motorcycle helmet
Yeah it might fool the fuzz into not pulling you over
It won’t do shit in a crash

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 7:12:19am

Gone full fascist. When they were being groomed for fascism, they called normal people “socialists.” Now that they’re radicalized completely, they’re fascists calling normal people “communists.” I wish it was surprising that right-wingers who talk about “freedom” want oppression.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) August 6, 2021

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:12:35am

re: #116 A Mom Anon

Better late than never? Sigh. I am beyond frustrated by this. They could have done this from the time the vaccine became available. The federal government also can dictate what rules are followed on a plane and in an airport. We’re headed towards the end of the second year of this.

I don’t get the medical facilities or elder/disability care places that have or are allowing workers to be unvaccinated. Just NOW it’s a problem? And schools? OMG I can’t. Our county of dipshits just had to go from “no one has to be vaccinated or wear a mask unless they want to” to “suggesting” that every one be masked and get shots. I honestly think two things are at work here. First is just stupid wingnuts infiltrating the county level offices from schools to mayors to city councils,etc. The second is the sane elected officials are getting death threats, people showing up at their homes, threatening their kids, doxxing, etc. There has to be public pushback, but fear is holding it back. Plus most of us have pandemic related financial and health issues to consider too. I don’t know how we fight back when the institutions designed to run things and keep us safe have caved to this bullying and fear.

Flying is not a right. feds have regulatory authority.
Should have done it long ago.

One guess re nursing homes and the like is the fear of disruption. losing too much staff at one time and not being able to replace and train quickly. Maybe.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 7:13:28am

re: #119 Dangerman

Like wearing a “novelty” motorcycle helmet
Yeah it might fool the fuzz into not pulling you over
It won’t do shit in a crash

They want to feel like they’re getting away with something to stick it to the man. That something is suicide.

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 7:14:01am

re: #119 Dangerman

Like wearing a “novelty” motorcycle helmet
Yeah it might fool the fuzz into not pulling you over
It won’t do shit in a crash

And you’re still wearing something.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Aug 6, 2021 • 7:14:30am

re: #113 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The Conservatives in my family know better than to send me that kind of garbage, and have dropped off of Facebook during the Trump disaster since it threatened their worldview when their Facebook friends weren’t all delusional.

I block everybody who gets too carried away with political posts on FB

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 7:15:02am

re: #122 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They want to feel like they’re getting away with something to stick it to the man. That something is suicide.

If they want to be assholes, let them.

When the respirator tube goes in they will get what they deserve.

I have no more patience with these assholes.

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 7:16:11am

Gonna have to make bagels tomorrow morning.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 7:16:41am

re: #125 JOE 🥓

If they want to be assholes, let them.

When the respirator tube goes in they will get what they deserve.

I have no more patience with these assholes.

I just want to get kids vaccinated, then the LARPing-right can LARP themselves to death via Covid. The Conservatives I care about are vaccinated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Aug 6, 2021 • 7:16:51am

re: #120 Punish Domestic Terrorists

VIKTOR ORBAN BELIEVES IN FAMILIES AND BORDERS

and he also believes in benefitting from EU subsidies while ignoring EU policy on equal rights, free press and an independent judiciary

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lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 7:18:31am

re: #125 JOE 🥓

If they want to be assholes, let them.

When the respirator tube goes in they will get what they deserve.

I have no more patience with these assholes.

And yet, their dumbfuckery can kill others.

If you drive without a helmet and crash, you might only kill yourself.

With covid19, you endanger everyone else you encounter. From the person who might be caring for an immunocompromised family member, or kids under 12, or cancer patients. Or even someone who is in good health but who gets covid19 and ends up in the ICU.

These self know nothings don’t care about anyone else, including their own families. That puts them squarely in the sociopath category.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:19:01am

re: #117 JOE 🥓

Consider, for example, a family of migrants released in La Joya, Texas,” lawyers for the state wrote. “The family went to a public restaurant and began ‘coughing and sneezing without covering their mouths.’” The family in question told police they had COVID-19, the filing noted.

Calling bullshit

How did they know they had covid?
When were they tested? In detention? Before?
When did they get it? Before crossing? In detention?
So why were they released?
And all of them have it?
All unsymptomatic (except coughing)
And none have table manners

Sure
Just a “perfect” story

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lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 7:19:02am

re: #126 darthstar

I’ll take an order of 1lb… :)

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 7:19:04am

re: #127 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I just want to get kids vaccinated, then the LARPing-right can LARP themselves to death via Covid. The Conservatives I care about are vaccinated.

If we get enough people vaccinated, then these people will claim they were correct all along in not getting the vaccine.

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lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 7:19:44am

re: #132 Belafon

Freeloaders/free riders.

But they’ll still be at risk because covid19 is that dangerous.

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 7:20:12am

re: #130 Dangerman

Calling bullshit

How did they know they had covid?
When were they tested? In detention? Before?
When did they get it? Before crossing? In detention?
So why were they released?
And all of them have it?
All unsymptomatic (except coughing)
And none have table manners

Sure
Just a “perfect” story

They had been tested when they were in immigration. They were moved to a hotel because they were sick. They were supposed to stay in the hotel, but snuck out to get food.

it’s in the article.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:20:42am

re: #123 Belafon

And you’re still wearing something.

Right?????!!

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 7:23:35am

re: #131 lawhawk

I’ll take an order of 1lb… :)

Yeah, I decided to do the whole fish this time…about 8lbs of filet & belly.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:26:54am

re: #125 JOE 🥓

If they want to be assholes, let them.

When the respirator tube goes in they will get what they deserve.

I have no more patience with these assholes.

over our 12 year marriage, mrsdm and i developed our own language/code
im sure a lot of couples do
words mean special things, a lot of it is silly
most of it came about organically

last night we had a meeting because
we got tired of saying no sympathy, except for kids, contraindicated etc

so we agreed from now on our definition of anyone not vaccinated excludes children and those who cant. our house our rules our definition

so when we say fuck em all, we do it with a clear conscience and no asterisk

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 7:27:01am

re: #125 JOE 🥓

If they want to be assholes, let them.

When the respirator tube goes in they will get what they deserve.

I have no more patience with these assholes.

Me too…I suspect that may have been what got me kicked off Twitter…mocking a dead GOP state congressman.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 7:28:12am

re: #132 Belafon

If we get enough people vaccinated, then these people will claim they were correct all along in not getting the vaccine.

The ones who don’t get the vaccine will still get deathly ill, or even die. Herd immunity is impossible with Delta. These free riders can’t get by based on others being decent people in this case.

Edit: I see Lawhawk already covered this.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:29:01am

re: #131 lawhawk

I’ll take an order of 1lb… :)

And a schmear

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gocart mozart Aug 6, 2021 • 7:36:04am

Fuck! I didn’t know there was a second run. Fantastic! Thank you Spring-Nuts! https://t.co/3ZQXBBVzLA

— Stevie Van Zandt (@StevieVanZandt) August 6, 2021

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 7:37:01am

re: #139 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The ones who don’t get the vaccine will still get deathly ill, or even die. Herd immunity is impossible with Delta. These free riders can’t get by based on others being decent people in this case.

Edit: I see Lawhawk already covered this.

I’ve reached the point where I’m beginning to hope so, especially after the vaccine gets approved for those under 12.

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 7:37:03am

re: #140 Dangerman

And a schmear

Came back normal.

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gocart mozart Aug 6, 2021 • 7:37:52am

re: #126 darthstar

I think those fish are dead. Time to pull the plug.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:38:38am

WaPo

Eugene Robinson: “This is the GOP’s pandemic now. Cynical and irresponsible Republican politicians have created an environment that is killing Americans who shouldn’t have to die, swamping hospital systems with desperately ill patients, and generally ensuring that the pain and disruption of covid-19 are with us longer than they need be or should be. And they’ve done so in their own self-interest.”

“Yes, the more-infectious delta variant is driving this new wave. But vaccination and mask-wearing have the power to check that spike in cases, and to prevent those new diagnoses from turning into hospitalizations and deaths.”

“Can we possibly be so stupid that we ignore all empirical evidence and insist on inflicting grievous self-harm? Ambitious Republicans are betting that the answer to that question is yes.”

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:40:30am

re: #143 darthstar

Came back normal.

Um, erm…

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lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 7:42:59am

The royal we?

*We* aren’t failing one another.

That is a laughable attempt at magic balance fairying.

One political party is actively encouraging the spread of covid19 while doing nothing to mitigate (or worse - blocking actions that save lives). That’s the GOP.

— lawhawk #vaxxingforafriend (@lawhawk) August 6, 2021

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 7:44:41am

re: #145 Dangerman

WaPo

Not according to The Usual Gang Of Idiots who are blaming Delta on Joe and claiming he bungled it. Endless posts with the Luap Dnar video saying Biden deliberately spread Delta in Republican areas…

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:45:33am

Fox Business guest complains that rising wages will erode the margins of businesses and that workers now have a “toxic mentality” of asking for a living wage pic.twitter.com/nS7sZwS0TQ

— John Whitehouse+ (@existentialfish) August 6, 2021

They sure can twist a story

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Dave In Austin Aug 6, 2021 • 7:45:39am

Yeah, the side effects are definitely better than getting the damn vaccine 🙄https://t.co/VuDRMogrTo pic.twitter.com/2qBwPLjH5W

— FoggyMamaBreakdown (@DawnWatland) August 6, 2021

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 7:48:16am

re: #150 Dave In Austin

You know what, if it actually works, then great. I don’t care. However, I remain unconvinced that this isn’t another false study done to promote some random drug that is just being peddled as an excuse not to get vaccinated, because “we can treat it now!” Fuck that. Even if we CAN treat it with this drug, get your damn shots. The less of this we have to use, the better for the country. And if it doesn’t work, well, then, fuck all y’all AGAIN for yet another hoax that the non-scientists have foisted upon us with their breathlessly inaccurate reporting.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Aug 6, 2021 • 7:48:56am

re: #148 JOE 🥓

Not according to The Usual Gang Of Idiots who are blaming Delta on Joe and claiming he bungled it. Endless posts with the Luap Dnar video saying Biden deliberately spread Delta in Republican areas…

Massive projection. The GOP would *love* to spread Covid among *those* people. And the Democrats and libs in general if they thought they could.

And we also get first-hand experience on how countries and cultures can essentially convince themselves that self-destructive behavior is good for the nation - or at least their own little part of it that they are convinced is the “true” part of it.

(This makes reading about the pre-WW2 Japanese and German behaviors quite a bit more understandable. Marinate heavily in a constant stream of propaganda and it appears you can get groups of humans to do obviously stupid things and think that it’s the proper thing to do or support having done.)

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mmmirele Aug 6, 2021 • 7:50:24am

re: #75 No Malarkey!

I’ve been retweeting news to the local schools, in hopes they will see sense before maskless kids start spreading covid in our schools when they open August 12.

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School started Wednesday here and the next door neighbor’s kid goes to special ed. She was not wearing a mask when she boarded the bus yesterday. And the school district (Mesa Public Schools) is bowing to Doug Ducey and the idiots of the state legislature. I see those yellow school buses going around and think disease on wheels.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:51:13am

re: #11 JOE 🥓

The motherfathers are going to try it again.

Trump ally announces date of next event: ‘We’re going back to the Capitol’

But now, a Trump ally is announcing his own event for Sept. 18. The Huffington Post cited the architect, Matt Braynard as he spoke to Steve Bannon on a recent podcast. “We’re going back to the Capitol, right where it started. And it’s going to be huge,” Braynard promised.

“As we continue to raise the profiles of these individuals” who have been arrested, it “makes it harder and harder for the left’s phony narrative about an insurrection to stick,” Braynard said. “We’re going to push back on the phony narrative that there was an insurrection.”

huffpost.com

This time I hope they come face to face with thousands of National Guardsmen…

- they won’t get a permit
- or if they do, it won’t take hours for the national guard to be deployed
- and likely they will be prepared. There won’t be much reluctance at using force

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 7:51:57am

Shrimp fried rice!

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 7:52:54am

re: #153 mmmirele

School started Wednesday here and the next door neighbor’s kid goes to special ed. She was not wearing a mask when she boarded the bus yesterday. And the school district (Mesa Public Schools) is bowing to Doug Ducey and the idiots of the state legislature. I see those yellow school buses going around and think disease on wheels.

In Minnesota, even though masks are not required in the schools themselves (unless by district mandate), the state still mandates they be worn on the buses. We’re not about to start putting our kids on those things, but that’s for different reasons than just COVID.

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 7:53:34am

re: #154 Dangerman

- they won’t get a permit
- or if they do, it won’t take hours for the national guard to be deployed
- and likely they will be prepared. There won’t be much reluctance at using force

Also, the Capitol police will be all, “Not these assholes again!” and they’ll be busting balls and holding people with tactical gear for questioning before they can even gather in groups.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:54:21am

re: #150 Dave In Austin

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I would never take any drug that might have side effects. //

Cholesterol drug cuts coronavirus infection by 70%, researchers findhttps://t.co/1OO0wzkURA

— Fox News (@FoxNews) August 6, 2021

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 7:54:53am

I’m trying to imagine anyone being stupid enough to dress up in cos-play military gear and expecting anything less than an aggressive response from the police and national guard.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:55:39am

re: #153 mmmirele

School started Wednesday here and the next door neighbor’s kid goes to special ed. She was not wearing a mask when she boarded the bus yesterday. And the school district (Mesa Public Schools) is bowing to Doug Ducey and the idiots of the state legislature. I see those yellow school buses going around and think disease on wheels.

right now i am so thankful we don’t have kids

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gocart mozart Aug 6, 2021 • 7:56:08am

Dave Grohl & The Foo Fighters trolled the Westboro Baptist Church outside their concert in Kansas tonight. PLAYING DISCO. pic.twitter.com/Ci2yh1M7QR

— talkie (@Talkie86) August 6, 2021

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 7:56:10am

re: #159 darthstar

I’m trying to imagine anyone being stupid enough to dress up in cos-play military gear and expecting anything less than an aggressive response from the police and national guard.

So far, if you’re white, you get away with it. However, after 1/6, the calculus may have changed, at least in the Capitol. What worries me is Mike Fanone’s remarks that seem to indicate that some of his fellow officers are far more empathetic to the cause than the people who fought that day.

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lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 7:56:15am

re: #151 Dopamine Fish

It’s a lab test, not a double blind test with patients to see if it actually works in test subjects.

So, it’s investigative at this point - not confirmed.

But if it works, that’ll help people who get covid19 avoid the worst outcomes.

Thing is, we have tools to avoid getting covid19 altogether: masking and vaccinations. Masking has no side effects. Vaccinations have some side effects, which are less than what this drug could do. Vaccinations also have fewer side effects than getting covid19 itself, which includes spreading it to others, getting hospitalized, or dying. We have enough people dosed with covid19 vaccines to know how safe and effective they are - and they are exceptionally so (Moderna, Pfizer, and J&J). Side effects are rare - actual real ones that the VAERS considers serious and actionable, and breakthrough infections are far less severe. The vaccines do their jobs. Getting covid19 doesn’t confer that kind of protection.

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Eclectic Cyborg Aug 6, 2021 • 7:56:57am

re: #150 Dave In Austin

Until I see this from a more reliable source than Fox, I’m calling bullshit.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 7:57:18am

re: #158 Dangerman

I would never take any drug that might have side effects. //

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Oh wait. Its a pill not a “vaccine”. That’s different…

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Aug 6, 2021 • 7:59:11am

re: #80 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Vacation Land

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 7:59:54am

re: #158 Dangerman

I would never take any drug that might have side effects. //

Nice, but it’s still important to be mentally-well enough to take advantage of life-saving vaccines. This is not an excuse to stay stuck on stupid because you’re part of a suicidal fantasy-prone subculture.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) August 6, 2021

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 8:00:18am

This popped up in my FB memories from four years ago…still applies, even more so in this time of Covid-19.

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Rightwingconspirator Aug 6, 2021 • 8:00:24am

re: #166 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

That’s… Very western.

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calochortus Aug 6, 2021 • 8:01:27am

re: #127 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I just want to get kids vaccinated, then the LARPing-right can LARP themselves to death via Covid. The Conservatives I care about are vaccinated.

This.

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 6, 2021 • 8:02:53am

Hm.

After a century people have noticed that anything can be called “communism,” moving complainer and complaint to the category of threat; a thought-terminating cliche.

Perhaps given another century America will learn that there is no sex in the champagne room.

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John Hughes Aug 6, 2021 • 8:05:53am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

With the decline of religion in this country, we will have the same violence as other nations which have already gone through this.

What violence did England, for example, go through? When?

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Dave In Austin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:09:23am

re: #161 gocart mozart

This is the best thing I’ve seen in days

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 8:10:31am

re: #171 The Ghost of a Flea

Hm.

After a century people have noticed that anything can be called “communism,” moving complainer and complaint to the category of threat; a thought-terminating cliche.

Perhaps given another century America will learn that there is no sex in the champagne room.

Is there champagne?

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 8:18:18am

re: #172 John Hughes

What violence did England, for example, go through? When?

Ask my friends in Britain about the pervasive racism whipped up by such assholes as Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson. Oh and then there were those attacks on “colored” soccer players…

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Dave In Austin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:21:30am

I guess this isn’t the 1st time either.

Foo Fighters punk Westboro protester

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wrenchwench Aug 6, 2021 • 8:21:59am

re: #161 gocart mozart

I just saw that on twitter and was checking to see if it had already been posted here. You win the prize.

A Repost!

Dave Grohl & The Foo Fighters trolled the Westboro Baptist Church outside their concert in Kansas tonight. PLAYING DISCO. pic.twitter.com/Ci2yh1M7QR

— talkie (@Talkie86) August 6, 2021

And an upding!

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 6, 2021 • 8:25:50am

re: #174 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Is there champagne?

I don’t know. I drink gin.

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John Hughes Aug 6, 2021 • 8:26:16am

re: #175 JOE 🥓

Ask my friends in Britain about the pervasive racism whipped up by such assholes as Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson. Oh and then there were those attacks on “colored” soccer players…

I’m not seeing any connection to the death of god there.

And “pervasive racism”?

Attacks on “colored” soccer players? You mean a mural being defaced?

How many dead are we talking about here?

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 6, 2021 • 8:26:23am

Well, obviously this was a necessary move. Shouldn’t be able to game the caste system through collaborative effort, after all.

Texas Senate Passes Bill To Restrict Charitable Bail Organizations

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Dave In Austin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:28:47am

Biden is giving a presser.

TAN SUIT ALERT!!

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 8:30:12am

re: #179 John Hughes

I’m not seeing any connection to the death of god there.

And “pervasive racism”?

Attacks on “colored” soccer players? You mean a mural being defaced?

How many dead are we talking about here?

en.wikipedia.org

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lawhawk Aug 6, 2021 • 8:30:33am

Will all the bloviating right wing media types hyperventilate or something? I’m hoping they do, because we all know what happened here.

THIS IS THE PLAN. #tansuit pic.twitter.com/rqxiXRaLVP

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) August 6, 2021

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 8:32:15am

re: #183 lawhawk

Will all the bloviating right wing media types hyperventilate or something? I’m hoping they do, because we all know what happened here.

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Yeah. I remember Mikey Teeney Weeney Savage calling for Obama’s impeachment over the tan suit…

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Dave In Austin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:32:24am

Joe Biden is wearing a tan suit. pic.twitter.com/AT5AVoStik

— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) August 6, 2021

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 8:33:09am

re: #142 Belafon

I’ve reached the point where I’m beginning to hope so, especially after the vaccine gets approved for those under 12.

It’s entirely normal to be outraged at the derpsters who refuse to vaccinate. They’re so stupid and so contrarian that they kill people.

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 8:33:14am

re: #185 Dave In Austin

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Just waiting for Joe to smear some dijon on the burger…and the meltdown at 19th Century Fox…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 8:34:19am

re: #185 Dave In Austin

Fixed it.
Phew that was close to another scandal. pic.twitter.com/jSjpe4QjFy

— PublisherEmeritus (@talkingnewmedia) August 6, 2021

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 8:35:20am

re: #188 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Uh oh! That’s even worse…19th Century Fox will call him Joe-Ker Biden!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:35:49am

Just got a text saying Montgomery Conundrum, MD had reinstated the indoor mask mandate.

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Dave In Austin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:36:47am

re: #187 JOE 🥓

Just waiting for Joe to smear some dijon on the burger…and the meltdown at 19th Century Fox…

During this presser

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:37:43am

I had surgery last night — broke both my tibia and fibula by smashing my foot down on steps after slipping.

Nice new rod in my leg — and now I know what the 8/9 on the pain chat means.

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 8:37:46am

re: #183 lawhawk

Will all the bloviating right wing media types hyperventilate or something? I’m hoping they do, because we all know what happened here.

He should have worn a matching tie.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp! Aug 6, 2021 • 8:38:42am

re: #154 Dangerman

- they won’t get a permit
- or if they do, it won’t take hours for the national guard to be deployed
- and likely they will be prepared. There won’t be much reluctance at using force

Also, there’s no electoral college count going on.

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 8:39:34am

re: #192 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I had surgery last night — brow both my tibia and fibula by smashing my foot down on steps after slipping.

Nice new rod in my leg — and now I know what the 8/9 on the pain chat means.

Good job. Even I only managed to break my fibula.

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 8:40:05am

re: #192 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I had surgery last night — brow both my tibia and fibula by smashing my foot down on steps after slipping.

Nice new rod in my leg — and now I know what the 8/9 on the pain chat means.

OWTCH!!!!! No fun. Please rest and take care!

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict Aug 6, 2021 • 8:42:24am

Morning Lizards. Just a wee bit of smoke in the air at 9:15ish MST this morning. ////

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Aug 6, 2021 • 8:44:11am

re: #195 Belafon

Good job. Even I only managed to break my fibula.G

Yeah. I shouldn’t be a allowed to have a body to take care of, I’ve broken a lot of bones .

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Jay C Aug 6, 2021 • 8:44:56am

re: #192 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Bummer.
Sincere sympathy - and equally-sincere hopes you’re able to get decent pain management.

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 8:45:22am

I was listening to President Biden - one thing he said that should raise a lot of eyebrows was that federal employees who don’t get vaccinated will be restricted from work related travel. That could get some airlines already weighing the possibility of requiring vaccinations for passengers to pull the trigger and just do it.

And that would be the stick that motivates the vaccine-hesitant to do the right thing and get the shot.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 8:49:21am

re: #180 The Ghost of a Flea

Well, obviously this was a necessary move. Shouldn’t be able to game the caste system through collaborative effort, after all.

Texas Senate Passes Bill To Restrict Charitable Bail Organizations

how do you equate “those who need to be in jail” with those who can’t pay…
oh wait…

“This is not going to lead to mass incarceration,” alledged State Sen. Joan Huffman (R-Houston). “Instead, it should keep those who need to be in jail, in jail, so that our citizens can go about their everyday activities on the streets of Texas.”

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Hecuba's daughter Aug 6, 2021 • 8:50:28am

re: #192 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I had surgery last night — brow both my tibia and fibula by smashing my foot down on steps after slipping.

Nice new rod in my leg — and now I know what the 8/9 on the pain chat means.

Ouch. Best wishes for a speed recovery. I’ve been fortunate that, so far, my missteps over the years have led to soft tissue damage only — except for the one time I fractured my third metatarsal on my foot. So nothing serious, but it just takes one brief moment of distraction to really harm oneself.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 8:50:30am

re: #181 Dave In Austin

Biden is giving a presser.

TAN SUIT ALERT!!

it would be grand if it was the same suit, retailored…

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dat_said Aug 6, 2021 • 8:50:48am

re: #101 Dopamine Fish

Republicans will claim that their states killing the unemployment bonus is what contributed to this, you know. They always have an answer to everything, the lying bastards.

Not claim. They’ll lie.

This is what happens when we make economic policy with emotions instead of data 🤦 https://t.co/sB3EKAZIzM

— Garrett Smith (@TruGarrettSmith) August 4, 2021

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 8:52:29am

re: #200 darthstar

I was listening to President Biden - one thing he said that should raise a lot of eyebrows was that federal employees who don’t get vaccinated will be restricted from work related travel. That could get some airlines already weighing the possibility of requiring vaccinations for passengers to pull the trigger and just do it.

And that would be the stick that motivates the vaccine-hesitant to do the right thing and get the shot.

repeat and repeat: flying commerical is not a right

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 6, 2021 • 8:56:20am

re: #201 Dangerman

how do you equate “those who need to be in jail” with those who can’t pay…
oh wait…

Look…if the surprise endgame boss to most of life’s issues is capitalism, then the raid boss is the very concept of value.

The implicit assumption is that accumulated material value is a sign of effort, and effort is a sign of virtue. It’s Weber’s conception of the Protestant Ethic & the Spirit of Capitalism mutated to a more virulent form.

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BlueSpotinAL Aug 6, 2021 • 9:00:00am

re: #151 Dopamine Fish

You know what, if it actually works, then great. I don’t care. However, I remain unconvinced that this isn’t another false study done to promote some random drug that is just being peddled as an excuse not to get vaccinated, because “we can treat it now!” Fuck that. Even if we CAN treat it with this drug, get your damn shots. The less of this we have to use, the better for the country. And if it doesn’t work, well, then, fuck all y’all AGAIN for yet another hoax that the non-scientists have foisted upon us with their breathlessly inaccurate reporting.

This was an in vitro study. The fact that there was a study registered
clinicaltrials.gov
Estimated Study Start Date : December 13, 2020
Estimated Primary Completion Date : April 1, 2021
Estimated Study Completion Date : December 1, 2021

With no results reported yet is an indication that the effect is not strong.

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gocart mozart Aug 6, 2021 • 9:16:29am

I see what you did there @WHCommsDir and here for it https://t.co/jieHVBjEhf

— Jen Psaki (@PressSec) August 6, 2021

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 6, 2021 • 9:20:13am

re: #158 Dangerman

Common side effects include liver problems, breathing problems, abdominal pain, muscle problems, and nausea.[2] Serious side effects may include toxic epidermal necrolysis, rhabdomyolysis, gallstones, and pancreatitis.[2] Use in pregnancy and breastfeeding is not recommended.[3][4] It works by a number of mechanisms.[2]

Explains why this drug isn’t all that popular when compared to statins.

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BlueSpotinAL Aug 6, 2021 • 9:26:19am

re: #207 BlueSpotinAL

This was an in vitro study. The fact that there was a study registered
clinicaltrials.gov
Estimated Study Start Date : December 13, 2020
Estimated Primary Completion Date : April 1, 2021
Estimated Study Completion Date : December 1, 2021

With no results reported yet is an indication that the effect is not strong.

Another clinical trial registered, again no results after a year. Since this is a treatment, should have been doable in short order (no problem finding patients to treat).

clinicaltrials.gov

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John Hughes Aug 6, 2021 • 9:29:10am

re: #182 JOE 🥓

So way, way less than the US when the US was not particularly experiencing the “death of god”.

This is all about Anymouse’s contention that the death of god would lead to violence like it did in “other countries”.

I’m just not aware of any particular mass violence in the UK in the 20th century. A few riots doesn’t do it — the UK, like most everywhere, has always had riots.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Aug 6, 2021 • 9:29:43am

Never mind

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 9:34:18am

Well I wonder what the Qwazy Qs gonna say about this?

Maine Republican insisted he was the real victim after his stalking arrest - then he got busted for child porn

After his arrest this Tuesday on charges of felony child porn possession, a Maine Republican who is also a member of the Bangor School Committee posted $1,000 cash bail and was released.

It’s not known if Penobscot County Treasurer John Hiatt used a school-issued computer or tablet to download child pornography, but a department-owned tablet was seized by police during an earlier investigation into a harassment complaint against Hiatt, the Bangor Daily News reports. Sexually explicit images of children under the age of 12 were allegedly found.

“The affidavit in this case and the evidence, in this case, will show that this particular defendant had at least one still photo and two videos of a 5-year-old engaged in sexually explicit conduct with an adult male,” Penobscot County Assistant District Attorney Chris Almy said.

Hiatt is already facing charges for the alleged stalking and harassment of a 34-year-old Bangor woman on social media and in text messages earlier this year. He was arrested on May 14 on multiple charges that included felony invasion of privacy.

But he claims HE’S THE REAL VICTIM…

rawstory.com

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 9:34:25am

The beautiful actress who plays Ratcatcher in the new The Suicide Squad is a well-known Portuguese TV actress who just broke into American film.
imdb.com

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 9:47:57am

A couple of days ago, this kitten was terrified of me. Now she needs to be the center of attention.

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 9:50:11am

re: #215 Punish Domestic Terrorists

A couple of days ago, this kitten was terrified of me. Now she needs to be the center of attention.

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Such is the way of cats. My stupid cat would drape himself over my mouse hand when I was gaming when he wanted my attention.

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Patricia Kayden Aug 6, 2021 • 9:50:14am

re: #91 Eric The Fruit Bat

What’s wrong with scanning for child porn? Sounds like a good thing to me.

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The Ghost of a Flea Aug 6, 2021 • 9:50:36am

re: #182 JOE 🥓

Um. I’m an anthropologist who studied societies that become violent, and…I don’t see where decline of the influence of religion fits into this.

England had race riots because it’s was an imperialist country in decline that vented on its minority populations; it now has TERFS and Nazis and Brexit because it’s still an imperialist country in decline and needs further vents because the decline is getting worse because the country is still run by pig fucking vampires from Eton. At peak the nation was running entirely on criminally cheap labor and commodities sourced in the colonies, captive markets, and the periodic pile of famine-dead Irishmen or Bengalis; it’s recession took the form of fucking over working class people—especially those in the North, literally the first people colonized by Britain and still treated as “other”—while directing attention away from the public school sociopaths who privatized all the public wealth and cut all the social services.

In the 70s and 80s their funk was turning into vexation, and alternately shouting “We’re still an empire” and “Where did all these brown people come from?”—neither of which had to do with the decline of religion and everything to do with building a society in which your low-tier whites viewed themselves as entitled to service and deference from nonwhite colonized people who could not be British regardless of the law because to be British was to be a colonizer…but also the people of the absolute center—the Britons—viewed themselves as superior to the Irish, the Scots, etc.

Empire mindset doesn’t vanish with the empire. The bourgeoisie aren’t going to stint themselves, so the same fuckery to extract capital that happened overseas is now applied at home. The lumpenproles aren’t interested in acknowledging the bone-china fragility of their sense of superiority, so they just scramble to find ersatz versions. Both had a taste for imperial bloodsport: fucking up someone, anyone, to primally demonstrate who was the boss. This manifested externally in shit like the Falklands War and teaming up with the US to do a neo-colonialism in Iraq. This manifested internally as resurgence of the NF and soccer hooligans but also as white cops beating the shit out of South Asians and West Indians on the regular…but also in the kind of tactics that produced Hillsborough and the routine excesses of the Black and Tans.

It’s not that religion can’t be bound up in social disruption, but…a notable feature of the British Empire was that it built itself around secular bullshit. Sure, the overdressed inbred Germans wave around smells and bells but Anglicanism is the Arrowhead Farms Diet Cola of weaponized religion compared to the use of Catholicism by the French or the Spanish. Notions of civilization, whiteness, and natural hierarchy that evoked Gobineau and Spencer powered Britain to both take over the world and reify it’s internal life. The British were pioneers in pseudoscientific racism…starting with their classification of the Irish. Their postcolonial legacy is fallout of this process applied throughout the world: divide and conquer, assign one group of indigenes power and license over another by virtue of fitness, near-ness-to-whiteness.

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 9:51:17am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

What’s wrong with scanning for child porn? Sounds like a good thing to me.

It’s an incredible invasion of privacy to be able to go through anyone’s photos - even private ones - at any time. I don’t like child porn any more than the next person, but that just seems like a massive overreach of authority - and by a private company, no less.

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darthstar Aug 6, 2021 • 9:52:13am

re: #215 Punish Domestic Terrorists

A couple of days ago, this kitten was terrified of me. Now she needs to be the center of attention.

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She wasn’t terrified, she was sizing you up. Congratulations on the new feline overlord…obey.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 9:54:27am

re: #22 JOE 🥓

Shut your mouth Crackhead Mike.

He’s over the edge. He’s inciting violence. He’s got to be arrested and shut down!

My impression is that he gave up the crack, but instead of going through recovery, he got involved with extremist religion, and eventually, fascism. He’s still an addict, obviously, with new out of control addictions.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) August 6, 2021

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 9:57:02am

re: #219 Dopamine Fish

It’s an incredible invasion of privacy to be able to go through anyone’s photos - even private ones - at any time. I don’t like child porn any more than the next person, but that just seems like a massive overreach of authority - and by a private company, no less.

I don’t think it’s any kind of overreach, or invasion of privacy. They announced the new no-child-porn-on-iPhone policy, and anyone is free to stop using an iPhone if they want to have child porn on their phone. Tech does not have to enable the exploitation of children.

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sagehen Aug 6, 2021 • 9:58:45am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

What’s wrong with scanning for child porn? Sounds like a good thing to me.

How accurate is the scan? What’s the programming on the AI to be able to tell the difference between child porn and kid getting water-ski lessons? (or golf, or archery, or a thousand other sports where an instructor is hands-on arms around the student)

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gwangung Aug 6, 2021 • 10:00:24am

re: #223 sagehen

How accurate is the scan? What’s the programming on the AI to be able to tell the difference between child porn and kid getting water-ski lessons? (or golf, or archery, or a thousand other sports where an instructor is hands-on arms around the student)

The impression I got was that they were comparing to samples of known child exploitation. That would cut down on misidentification.

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 10:01:31am

re: #224 gwangung

The impression I got was that they were comparing to samples of known child exploitation. That would cut down on misidentification.

If it’s a trained AI model, that might actually make it worse. It’s a very grey area, and it’s all in the hands of Apple and whoever oversees the model training.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 6, 2021 • 10:02:03am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

What’s wrong with scanning for child porn? Sounds like a good thing to me.

Here’s a quote from Financial Times about this issue:

Apple intends to install software on American iPhones to scan for child abuse imagery, according to people briefed on its plans, raising alarm among security researchers who warn that it could open the door to surveillance of millions of people’s personal devices.

Apple detailed its proposed system — known as “neuralMatch” — to some US academics earlier this week, according to two security researchers briefed on the virtual meeting.

The automated system would proactively alert a team of human reviewers if it believes illegal imagery is detected, who would then contact law enforcement if the material can be verified. The scheme will initially roll out only in the US.

Apple confirmed its plans in a blog post, saying the scanning technology is part of a new suite of child protection systems that would “evolve and expand over time”. The features will be rolled out as part of iOS 15, expected to be released next month….

“It is an absolutely appalling idea, because it is going to lead to distributed bulk surveillance of . . . our phones and laptops,” said Ross Anderson, professor of security engineering at the University of Cambridge.

Although the system is currently trained to spot child sex abuse, it could be adapted to scan for any other targeted imagery and text, for instance, terror beheadings or anti-government signs at protests, say researchers. Apple’s precedent could also increase pressure on other tech companies to use similar techniques.

“This will break the dam — governments will demand it from everyone,” said Matthew Green, a security professor at Johns Hopkins University, who is believed to be the first researcher to post a tweet about the issue.

Alec Muffett, a security researcher and privacy campaigner who formerly worked at Facebook and Deliveroo, said Apple’s move was “tectonic” and a “huge and regressive step for individual privacy”.

So, if you innocently take pictures of your naked children, you could wind up tripping this neural net code -just like Facebook taking down the Pulitzer Prize winning photograph of a naked Vietnamese child running away from a napalm attack.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 10:02:03am

re: #223 sagehen

How accurate is the scan? What’s the programming on the AI to be able to tell the difference between child porn and kid getting water-ski lessons? (or golf, or archery, or a thousand other sports where an instructor is hands-on arms around the student)

If it’s inaccurate they’ll have support headaches, and have to update it. That does not mean that they should provide a platform for CP, just to avoid spending money on support. AI (really VI) is getting better and better, and this is an obvious application for it.

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JOE 🥓 Aug 6, 2021 • 10:04:53am

Little Nazi at it again

Boy Congressman Insurrection-ing Again?

At this point some of the Trumpers decided that the 4-2 vote constituted a “dictatorship” and proceeded to “overthrow” the board and elect themselves the new board in place of them. “They acted as a dictatorship, and so therefore, the people then take it into our own hands to abolish that governance and reelect new members right then and there,” Stephanie Parsons, who is I believe is the one in the video above, told The Citizen-Times.

And the Little Nazi was there whipping them up…

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 10:05:03am

Like, I get that child porn is a sensitive subject, and no, I absolutely DO NOT support it, nor do I think anyone should be allowed to make it or possess it. I’m usually not a big privacy wonk, and am usually on the side of, “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear,” so the fact that this is tripping my alarm bells in a big way I had hoped would indicate how serious of an issue this is.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 6, 2021 • 10:05:05am

re: #225 Dopamine Fish

If it’s a trained AI model, that might actually make it worse.

It appears Apple was already doing this on iCloud, where they were supposedly training their AI model based on hashing, which by itself could lead to false positives.

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Charles Johnson Aug 6, 2021 • 10:06:14am

March 19th.

Unfortunately, I wasn’t wrong. https://t.co/GWlqB21RkO

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 6, 2021

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 6, 2021 • 10:07:47am

Porn is always the lead excuse to deploy privacy-crippling technologies. CSAM today, classified material next, and eventually, whatever any power deems “objectionable” tomorrow.

This playbook is so tired. Not fooled, @Apple https://t.co/IazmnCCXrB

— Տean Mꇃꓰlroy 🛡 (@SeanMcElroy) August 5, 2021

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 10:08:58am

re: #219 Dopamine Fish

It’s an incredible invasion of privacy to be able to go through anyone’s photos - even private ones - at any time. I don’t like child porn any more than the next person, but that just seems like a massive overreach of authority - and by a private company, no less.

Just a reminder of who really owns It

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mmmirele Aug 6, 2021 • 10:10:24am

Here’s a funny at the evil too big to fail bank.

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I am still waiting for the inevitable “we have had this issue all week, and it’s 15:00 ET Friday and it needs to get fixed now. Oh boy, life on the tech side of an evil too big to fail financial institution.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Aug 6, 2021 • 10:10:39am

Did @apple wipe their tweets? They show zero tweets - or is this their normal modus operandi?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 10:11:02am

re: #230 Eric The Fruit Bat

It appears Apple was already doing this on iCloud, where they were supposedly training their AI model based on hashing, which by itself could lead to false positives.

Which is not a problem. A software false-positive does not get a person arrested, it just takes the time of a staffer to review. At worse, we get the thing with local prosecutors doing the wrong thing which we already had with film developers, and missteps can be exposed much more easily these days than back then.

It’s not at all surprising that a company that put devices capable of discreetly producing and distributing CP in people’s hands wants to do something to mitigate the damage their product does now that the tech exists to affordably do so.

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Charles Johnson Aug 6, 2021 • 10:11:41am

I guess Don Jr. can stop frantically searching his boat now. https://t.co/DBU0ZDH5e4

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 6, 2021

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Dopamine Fish Aug 6, 2021 • 10:13:17am

re: #234 mmmirele

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 10:13:57am

re: #232 Eric The Fruit Bat

He’s talking about the slippery slope fallacy.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 10:14:44am

re: #237 Charles Johnson

The media know about it because the beach had a lot of people on it. Less people, and that brick would have just vanished.

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ericblair Aug 6, 2021 • 10:17:30am

re: #235 Eric The Fruit Bat

Did @apple wipe their tweets? They show zero tweets - or is this their normal modus operandi?

I don’t believe they’ve ever tweeted anything.

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 10:18:49am

An Arkansas judge has temporarily blocked the state from enforcing a law that prevents schools and other governmental agencies from requiring masks,” the Associated Press reports.

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b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!) Aug 6, 2021 • 10:19:38am

Happy Friday Lizards:

Rather meet the kid who’s interested in stuffing him into a locker

— Justin Whang 🐙 (@JustinWhang) August 5, 2021

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Charles Johnson Aug 6, 2021 • 10:20:17am

Great interview with Greg Mitchell on his fascinating book about a pivotal time in world history. https://t.co/VxsPygczFO

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 6, 2021

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Eclectic Cyborg Aug 6, 2021 • 10:20:50am

re: #243 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

Happy Friday Lizards:

Meet a Future Right Wing Tech Bro

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A Mom Anon Aug 6, 2021 • 10:22:45am

re: #173 Dave In Austin

They do something similar every time WBC protests a show of theirs. Cracks me up. Even the lady holding the God Hates Pride sign was trying not to dance, lol.

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No Malarkey! Aug 6, 2021 • 10:23:39am

re: #153 mmmirele

School started Wednesday here and the next door neighbor’s kid goes to special ed. She was not wearing a mask when she boarded the bus yesterday. And the school district (Mesa Public Schools) is bowing to Doug Ducey and the idiots of the state legislature. I see those yellow school buses going around and think disease on wheels.

The school board here is meeting again this afternoon to delay the start of school two weeks due to the high rate of Covid transmission. They may reconsider a mask mandate if transmission remains high.

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mmmirele Aug 6, 2021 • 10:25:39am

re: #238 Dopamine Fish

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Dangerman Aug 6, 2021 • 10:26:32am

Cleveland Plain Dealer…”The level of unvaccinated Ohioans who are hospitalized with the coronavirus is exponentially higher than vaccinated hospital patients —98.4% to 1.6% since Jan. 1, Gov. Mike DeWine said Friday.”

‘They’re getting sicker quicker.’ Gov. Mike DeWine says unvaccinated make up 98% of coronavirus hospitalization

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Belafon Aug 6, 2021 • 10:27:29am

re: #236 Punish Domestic Terrorists

if a software false-positive somehow gets leaked, it could easily ruin an innocent person’s life.

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Hecuba's daughter Aug 6, 2021 • 10:29:58am

re: #226 Eric The Fruit Bat

Here’s a quote from Financial Times about this issue:

So, if you innocently take pictures of your naked children, you could wind up tripping this neural net code -just like Facebook taking down the Pulitzer Prize winning photograph of a naked Vietnamese child running away from a napalm attack.

This week my nephew took pictures of his daughter eating the cupcake celebrating her first birthday. But first he took off her dress, so that they wouldn’t have to wash it to remove all the frosting and chocolate, which ended up adorning her face, head, and body. That is the kind of video that I’d be concerned that the Apple software would capture.

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Eclectic Cyborg Aug 6, 2021 • 10:30:24am

re: #248 mmmirele

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Eclectic Cyborg Aug 6, 2021 • 10:31:28am

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

Recently a friend of mine with a three year old daughter has taken to censoring nipples on any photos he posts in which she is not wearing a shirt.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 10:32:49am

re: #241 ericblair

I don’t believe they’ve ever tweeted anything.

I’d never looked at their account. Just squatting on the username looks weird. You’d think they’d at least promote their products. Maybe they don’t have a social media person or department, which would also seem weird today.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 10:33:43am

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

Recently a friend of mine with a three year old daughter has taken to censoring nipples on any photos he posts in which she is not wearing a shirt.

If I had kids, I wouldn’t post their pictures at all. We do not have to put our lives on display.

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mmmirele Aug 6, 2021 • 10:36:25am

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

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mmmirele Aug 6, 2021 • 10:37:29am

re: #255 Punish Domestic Terrorists

If I had kids, I wouldn’t post their pictures at all. We do not have to put our lives on display.

There are so many fucking pervs out there, it’s a blessing not to put your kids on display.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists Aug 6, 2021 • 10:37:37am

re: #247 No Malarkey!

The school board here is meeting again this afternoon to delay the start of school two weeks due to the high rate of Covid transmission. They may reconsider a mask mandate if transmission remains high.

Once they kill a couple of kids, they’ll go back to remote learning. Some people can’t plan to mitigate disaster, and can only react once disaster strikes.

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