The Killers Live: “Sleepwalker”

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Lyrics:
I’m, I hunt elk and deer, um, turkeys, just around here
Um, I’ve hunted antelope
Um, and growing up we had to be 12 before we could hunt
And now they’ve lowered it to
As soon as you pass hunter’s safety, you can hunt, so
I had to wait ‘til I was 12
As long as you can hold up a gun and shoot it
Hey, sleepwalker, don’t you miss the way
Wildflowers paint the western hills?
Or the first autumn whisper mid-September brings
And the glowy excitement that it builds?
Everyone is afraid of something
Even the strongest man alive
Hеy, sleepwalker, we went walking in thе western hills
And we picked you wildflowers
You gotta open your eyes
Hey, dreamcatcher, come out and see the leaves
The mountainside’s all watermelon red
Soon enough, they’re gonna rust and fall
Leave the mountainside cold and bare
But when the longer days of sun appear
They’ll be rising like an answered prayer and I know that
Everyone is afraid of losing
Even the ones that always win
Hey sleepwalker, when the mountain comes back to life
It doesn’t come from without
It comes from within
The hills are barren, but we look for what’s to come
Sweeter skies and longer days of sun
When you wake up, I’ll be standing in the line
To kiss your eyes and wipe the tears from mine
‘Cause everyone is afraid of something
Even the strongest man alive
Hey, sleepwalker
Western bluebells and painted cups are getting ready to rise
It’s time to begin
It doesn’t come from without
It comes from within

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308 comments
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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:46:11pm
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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:46:11pm
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:53:30pm

From downstairs, Firefly Alpha’s last moments of flight:

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Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:53:33pm

re: #2 Citizen K

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Apparently the DOJ under AG Garland has decided upon a blanket explanation for all the obvious efforts by his predecessors over the past 4 years to deliberately fuck with the rule of law: “Mistakes were made.”

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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:55:13pm

In case we wonder how shit like this continues to happen unabated.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:58:26pm

After seeing some morons swimming in flood water in NYC and getting free hepatitis, this tweet came to my timeline:

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austin_blue  Sep 2, 2021 • 8:58:30pm

re: #4 Targetpractice

Apparently the DOJ under AG Garland has decided upon a blanket explanation for all the obvious efforts by his predecessors over the past 4 years to deliberately fuck with the rule of law: “Mistakes were made.”

Ah, the passive voice, where responsibility for FUBARs go to die.

Hate it, hate it, hate it. Weasel language, weasel mode.

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austin_blue  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:02:37pm

re: #5 Citizen K

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In case we wonder how shit like this continues to happen unabated.

You don’t sound surprised!

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Targetpractice  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:10:15pm

re: #5 Citizen K

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In case we wonder how shit like this continues to happen unabated.

So what I’m getting is that, instead of either defending the law or condemning it, they’re trying to third path where they argue that the ruling is “technically correct” but doesn’t matter because there’s absolutely no way other red states will pass their own copies to ban abortions under this unique notch that the wingnut justices have carved out pending their ruling next year.

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Citizen K  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:14:47pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

So what I’m getting is that, instead of either defending the law or condemning it, they’re trying to third path where they argue that the ruling is “technically correct” but doesn’t matter because there’s absolutely no way other red states will pass their own copies to ban abortions under this unique notch that the wingnut justices have carved out pending their ruling next year.

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Well, I was more pointing out the fact that dipshits like Fuck Todd keep bringing on right-wing talking heads to launder these talking points and promoting them as neutral arbiters of some kind, but yeah, the actual merits of the argument Lowry and others are are just as shitty too.

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mmmirele  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:18:33pm

We grant great deference to Supreme Court justices.

For the five who decided that women in Texas should suffer because they used the shadow docket to approve of the Texas abortion bounty law, I think the gloves should come off.

Wherever these five speak, they should be protested. If it’s a closed meeting somewhere, protesters should be massed outside. If it’s a law school classroom, students (especially women students) should stand up and confront them directly. Go somewhere for a Federalist cabal meeting? Protesters.

I realize that this is extraordinarily rude, but note that I am specifically staying away from their private lives. But these five need to understand what they did is going to harm women’s lives. They should not be allowed to hide behind the great deference granted to the Supreme Court.

Oh, and the rules against protesting on the Court’s steps and in the Court chambers? I’m all for people breaking them if people are up for being arrested and charged. The new term starts in a month and there will be oral arguments.

Women’s lives are at stake here. It’s time to stop giving these asshats deference.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:28:37pm

I’m confused. I thought roe v. wade was an actual law that made abortion legal. Today I find out it isn’t really a law because it hasn’t gone through another step? It’s not codified? Which means it wasn’t actually written out as to how it would be enforced, what health standards have to be met, etc, is that right? So it was left to the states then, which creates chaos and problems where none should exist.

I don’t consider myself a complete idiot, but what the hell? So this is also why things that should not be up for debate,like voting rights, basic civil rights, need to be made into actual laws, not this half ass bullshit that a bunch of state level spiteful assholes can override like it’s nothing. This is just an insane way to make laws. I’m just pissed off this ONE medical procedure is such a big fucking deal, and has to be fought over and even get killed over, while there’s basically no affordable health care for all of us and we actually fight over it.

All of this country’s weaknesses have been exposed. World wide for all to see openly. We are not currently a strong and united country, and I am not sure how it gets fixed when one group is determined that even killing the rest of us is just fine in service to their version of hell.

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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:33:11pm

re: #12 A Mom Anon

Yep, it was a court decision in response to a court case, not a law passed by Congress. And it they HAD, THIS court might decide it was unconstitutional, too.

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sagehen  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:35:15pm

Or… we could say hey, if bodily autonomy is off the table, if people can be forced to give of their physical selves for others’ lives… let’s establish a genome database such that whenever anybody needs a bone marrow transplant, or a kidney, or half a liver, any suitable match can be picked up by federal marshals, strapped to a table, and we take whatever the patient needs. And people with rare blood types, let’s mandate that they give a pint every six weeks.

Because apparently, it’s no longer an individual decision whether to be selfish or generous with one’s parts. Why should this be only for women who have sex? Let’s make it for everyone.

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austin_blue  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:37:31pm

re: #9 Targetpractice

So what I’m getting is that, instead of either defending the law or condemning it, they’re trying to third path where they argue that the ruling is “technically correct” but doesn’t matter because there’s absolutely no way other red states will pass their own copies to ban abortions under this unique notch that the wingnut justices have carved out pending their ruling next year.

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Every State with a solid red Leg and Governor is going to do EXACTLY this. It’s the workaround that never mentions Roe v. Wade and thus is new law, without precedent.

Too bad it’s the Texas Stasi Statute and will soon be unworkable and as popular as home-grown sin.

Tee hee.

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BeachDem  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:47:46pm

re: #5 Citizen K

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In case we wonder how shit like this continues to happen unabated.

And whenever I want to discuss the finer points of a legal decision, my first thought is to bring on an English/History major with no legal background to share his views.

Rich Lowry—who can ever forget his cogent commentary on Sarah Palin’s debate performance:

“I’m sure I’m not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, “Hey, I think she just winked at me…It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America.”

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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:49:47pm

re: #16 BeachDem

I’d starburst him…

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:52:46pm
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retired cynic  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:54:21pm

re: #18 Belafon

Anyone have a shovel. I need to retrieve my jaw.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 2, 2021 • 9:58:00pm

re: #18 Belafon

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This is right out of the Bircher BS that pushed Laetrile as a cancer cure in the 70s.

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:04:09pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:07:26pm

re: #20 JOE 🥓

This is right out of the Bircher BS that pushed Laetrile as a cancer cure in the 70s.

This is out of the the 1470s. It’s whack-a-doodle batshit moonbattery.

People who think this post-1850 or so should be in “homes”.

“Homes” as George Carlin explained: “Places that some of us, let’s face it, have to be kept.”

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Belafon  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:08:19pm

re: #21 Belafon

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austin_blue  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:09:27pm

re: #20 JOE 🥓

This is right out of the Bircher BS that pushed Laetrile as a cancer cure in the 70s.

Good old Laetrile! Hydrogen cyanide rebooted as a cancer fighter! Cancer victims flocked to Mexico for this miracle cure.

Sad fact. None of them responded positively to the poison, and the vast majority died horribly painful deaths.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:12:34pm

The fire is burning all the way up to the treeline in Desolation Wilderness. The Wright’s Lake area is burning. That photo is from 2015, another drought year. We were up there in February. ‘Normally’ the road is under 10’ of snow at that time of year.

Wrights Lake (Desolation Wilderness in background)
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:13:18pm

Seriously. The germ theory of disease was first theorized during let me check this… The CRUSADES. Like 11th century.

It was expanded upon in the 14th century a bit. Got serious thought in Europe starting in the 16th century and by 1850 or so was completely accepted. After this point, life expectancy, overall quality of life, and the worlds population began to skyrocket after being mostly stagnant and abysmal since the beginning of civilization.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:15:25pm

re: #12 A Mom Anon

Roe v. Wade was a legal decision. Because our legal system usually respects precedent, no lower court was going to reverse it.

States have been trying to get around it, but they can’t attack the idea of abortion as a right, directly. So various schemes have been devised to attack the service providers and helpers, etc.

What TX did was make it impossible for anyone to get an abortion after 6 weeks because TX is making it illegal for anyone to help anyone get such a procedure, and furthermore offering money to anyone who identifies anyone who helps anyone get an abortion.

It’s all very contorted, but here we are.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:27:41pm

re: #16 BeachDem

And whenever I want to discuss the finer points of a legal decision, my first thought is to bring on an English/History major with no legal background to share his views.

Rich Lowry—who can ever forget his cogent commentary on Sarah Palin’s debate performance:

“I’m sure I’m not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, “Hey, I think she just winked at me…It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America.”

The only starbursts were of Rich, hurting himself and wrecking his TV.

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stpaulbear  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:32:44pm

re: #5 Citizen K

McCaskell pretty obviously wanted to smack the smirk off of both Lowry’s and Todd’s faces.She was pissed. I wanted to help her do it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:33:48pm

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Roe v. Wade was a legal decision. Because our legal system usually respects precedent, no lower court was going to reverse it.

States have been trying to get around it, but they can’t attack the idea of abortion as a right, directly. So various schemes have been devised to attack the service providers and helpers, etc.

What TX did was make it impossible for anyone to get an abortion after 6 weeks because TX is making it illegal for anyone to help anyone get such a procedure, and furthermore offering money to anyone who identifies anyone who helps anyone get an abortion.

It’s all very contorted, but here we are.

Federalist Society members (every GOP SC judge is a member) have no respect for precedent unless it comports with their ideology. Roberts who does have some concern about his legacy may occasionally look at other factors, but the remaining justices will overturn Roe v Wade in a heartbeat.

Let’s remember SC decision Plessey vs Ferguson was the law of the land for 60 years until the Warren Court overturned it with Brown v Board of Education. So legal perceptions and views of morality can evolve over time and long-standing decisions can be reversed.

But let’s not forget it’s not only previous SC decisions that this court can invalidate: even laws passed by Congress and signed by the President can be annulled by the Court — and this Court has done that repeatedly when it came to voting rights or campaign finance laws (yeah - I know — it wasn’t precisely this court that cancelled campaign finance laws but John Roberts was Chief Justice when that decision was reached). Nothing is safe from this Court.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:46:12pm
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sagehen  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:48:01pm

re: #23 Belafon

That’s very nice, Nancy. That, and voting rights, and the reconciliation budget and… but why do we have to wait another 3 weeks before getting to any of this? In the meantime, I’d think hurricane relief is worth calling the House back to work on THIS WEEK.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:56:09pm

Ever since I saw Disney’s ‘Charlie, The Lonesome Cougar’ in 1967, I wanted one as a pet. Once I was sitting by the Sacramento River in Rio Vista and a man was walking his pet Jaguar along the shoreline. That’s the only time I’ve seen a large cat in public.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 2, 2021 • 10:59:02pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:12:46pm

The water under the Deerfield pier gets a visitor:

Hammerhead August 2021

Notice how the school of fish parts so quickly for it.

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austin_blue  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:14:13pm

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Roe v. Wade was a legal decision. Because our legal system usually respects precedent, no lower court was going to reverse it.

States have been trying to get around it, but they can’t attack the idea of abortion as a right, directly. So various schemes have been devised to attack the service providers and helpers, etc.

What TX did was make it impossible for anyone to get an abortion after 6 weeks because TX is making it illegal for anyone to help anyone get such a procedure, and furthermore offering money to anyone who identifies anyone who helps anyone get an abortion.

It’s all very contorted, but here we are.

“Contorted” is a good word. “Machiavellian” is a good word. “Rube Goldberg Legal Device” are good words.

No-one in Texas wrote this law. It was just the first state to introduce it. Other States, like Mississippi, are trying to freeze abortion at fifteen weeks, making viability possible at that point because hummina hummina gazpacho no reason whatsoever we’re throwing that number out there because whatever.

Texas, at six weeks, doesn’t even *mention* abortion or Roe. It just says that a heart beat is evidence of human life (it isn’t). We have, since human organ transplants began, a pretty good definition of human death. A working forebrain. Brain death = human death.

This was important because we didn’t want to be vivisectionists. But if that’s a definition of death, it should also be a definition of life. In other words if the there is no working forebrain then there is not a human life.

This makes perfect sense, and should be established in law.

At six weeks, the little “baby” is smaller than kidney bean, has no real brain or circulatory system, no bones, a tail, and is no more human than a reptile. It still hasn’t grown the vestiges of a mammal brain.

A fetus becomes an embryo at eight/nine weeks and is *potentially* a human life, but until it can survive outside the womb, it cannot be a viable human. It’s just a dead baby that got born too early.

Acorns are not mighty oaks. Eggs are not chickens.

The technical definition of “miscarriage” is “spontaneous abortion”. It happens a lot.

Over 40% of zygotes, maybe up to 50%, are flushed out of the uterus without implanting or rejected by the uterus in the first three months.

The uterus does this for a reason. It is not purposefully murdering children.

But we are entering a new world where a woman’s uterus is a political football. “You’re murdering uterus has had two miscarriages! We are charging you with manslaughter!”

Brave New World.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:21:37pm

Oh Iceland, if the lava won’t get you the melt water will:

Just a Glacial Lake Outburst Flood This Time

..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:25:52pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:27:54pm

The lotteries are climbing their pot values again.

Powerball is at 367M.
MegaMillions is at 323M.

Another month or so of no one winning and the pots will get close to real money.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:30:11pm

I did not expect 40-49 to be our best vaccinated group under 75.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:39:33pm

Ah, jeez.

An attack at a New Zealand supermarket was “a terrorist attack” by a “violent extremist” who follows Islamic State ideology and who had been under heavy surveillance by police, prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said.

A man was shot dead on Friday afternoon by police after entering a West Auckland supermarket and stabbing at least six people, who are now in hospital.

The alleged terrorist was a Sri Lankan national who arrived in New Zealand in 2011 and became a person of national security interest from 2016, authorities said.

Ardern said his ideology was IS-inspired, but he was a “lone-wolf”.

theguardian.com

The deceased perp had been in NZ for 10 years and was on the radar of the police for the last five years.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:42:19pm

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Forgot to add that the perp was being shadowed by the cops - that’s why they were able to respond so quickly. Sounds like he was being followed pretty much everywhere he went.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:50:34pm

Meanwhile, in Romania…..

The ruling Romanian coalition is on the verge of collapse after a junior party announced it had withdrawn support for the government.

The reformist USR-PLUS party has piled pressure on Romania’s Prime Minister Florin Cîțu after he surprisingly dismissed his justice minister.

On Wednesday evening, Cîțu asked the Romanian President to remove minister Stelian Ion — a member of USR-PLUS.

The PM had blamed Ion for blocking an investment programme for local Romanian governments worth up to 50 billion lei (€10 billion).

Cîțu said the scheme was intended to upgrade dilapidated infrastructure in one of the EU’s poorest member states.

But opponents say the investment project was an attempt to buy the political support of “local barons” ahead of a party leadership campaign.

euronews.com

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:59:31pm

“You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.”

- Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Amory Blaine  Sep 2, 2021 • 11:59:54pm

As women were attacked today, so should men be.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:00:53am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:03:14am

re: #40 Dread Pirate Ron

Down here were at 75.4% (12+) fully vaccinated, 85.9% with at least one shot.

Not quite as good as you are doing up there, but San Diego county does have a lot of people.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:10:53am

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Oops, I pasted the wrong part out in that first image…

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:33:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:39:51am

re: #18 Belafon

must be true because it’s all in caps

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:40:23am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:41:52am

Less than one day and you are seeing a surge? Sure, pal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:43:22am

re: #52 Dread Pirate Ron

The lack of urgency to stop the spread of covid is amazing to me. It’s already mutated into a more transmissible, possibly deadlier, variant. I don’t know why folks think it can’t happen again.

As noted earlier, the adage “Avoid it like the plague” has somehow lost its meaning

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2021 • 12:44:29am

re: #36 austin_blue

But we are entering a new world where a woman’s uterus is a political football. “You’re murdering uterus has had two miscarriages! We are charging you with manslaughter!”

Brave New World.

We’re already there. Several states have arrested and jailed women in the last 20 years for miscarriages for a variety of reasons, but the general theme is “She could have done something to prevent this.” Back in 2016 a woman here in VA ended up in jail because she miscarried at home and then sought out medical help. Even though the medical examiner had determined that the fetus was stillborn and there was nothing medically that could have been done, the state still insisted on sending her to jail because she was 30-32 weeks along and thus they accused her of allowing a viable “baby” to die at home rather than being born in a hospital.

Northam granted her a pardon, but that was only after an appellate court allowed the original conviction to stand.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:01:24am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:01:59am

Roland Emmerich has a new disaster opus coming. Moonfall.

Moonfall Teaser Trailer (2022) | Movieclips Trailers

Synopsis: When a mysterious force knocks the Moon from its orbit around Earth and sends it hurtling on a collision course with life as we know it on this planet. With mere weeks before impact and the world on the brink of annihilation, NASA exec Jo Fowler puts together a plan to save everyone with an impossible last-ditch mission into space. Only to find out that our Moon is not what we think it is…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:30:15am

re: #56 Dread Pirate Ron

He is thus encouraging his colleagues to violate company policy…how long are they going to tolerate that?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:43:00am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is thus encouraging his colleagues to violate company policy…how long are they going to tolerate that?

As long as the pelf flows. The pelf must flow.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:43:59am

re: #59 Decatur Deb

As long as the pelf flows. The pelf must flow.

I just learned a new word today.

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:44:09am

re: #56 Dread Pirate Ron

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So either get the jab and be assured that the worst you will face is mild symptoms but otherwise be protected from death.

OR acquire a fake vaccination card, knowing that if you get caught you will not only be immediately terminated but it will be a permanent black mark on your employment record and you might possibly face criminal charges depending upon whether or not your employer feels like totally ruining your life.

Decisions, decisions…/////

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:47:53am

re: #23 Belafon

Heh. Looking forward to Manchin and Sinema explaining that they can’t support this bill because of bipartisanship.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:48:24am

re: #60 Dread Pirate Ron

I just learned a new word today.

You learned a very old word today. It was common in the crime dramas of the 1940s/50s.

(Origin of pelf: 1300-50; Middle English

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:56:27am

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

Heh. Looking forward to Manchin and Sinema explaining that they can’t support this bill because of bipartisanship.

They might actually be able to find enough Republicans in the Senate scared shitless of being seen as supporting an abortion ban to be willing to sign onto the bill. But the more likely scenario is that you’re going to see a lot of those “moderates” talking about how they just can’t support the bill because (insert asinine “reason” here).

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:57:19am

Looks like Japan’s Prime Minister, Yoshihide Suga, is on his way out the door.

Japan’s prime minister, Yoshihide Suga, has said he will not run for re-election as party leader this month, signalling the end of his tenure.

Mr Suga had been appointed to the role just a year ago following the resignation of Shinzo Abe.

The shock announcement comes as Mr Suga’s approval ratings dropped to an all-time low.

bbc.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:57:49am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Only to find out that our Moon is not what we think it is…

Cheese.

The Moon is made of cheese.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 1:59:39am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Cheese.

The Moon is made of cheese.

I’m sure Moonfall will be chock full of cheesiness.

That and I get the feeling that Roland Emmerich really hates the Earth.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:01:21am

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

The difference between Emmerich and The Asylum (who makes cheap TV disaster flicks) is that Emmerich has a much bigger budget.

And he likes destroying the whole Earth, not just part of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:02:35am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Cheese.

The Moon is made of cheese.

What’s wrong with Wensleydale?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:02:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:04:53am

re: #70 Dread Pirate Ron

It makes me sad that we used to tell people stories of evil dictatorships where the government gets people’s neighbors to spy on them. And now that’s a thing we do in the United States.

These people think they are gaining Brownie Points with God by enacting and enforcing laws like the Texas Abortion Bill.

At the same time, Texas is at the very bottom of national rankings for infant health, maternal care, maternal poverty and educational spending…

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:05:34am

re: #70 Dread Pirate Ron

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Ian must be new here. This is totally normal for America, the only difference is who’s the “out” group each decade.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:08:53am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The difference between Emmerich and The Asylum (who makes cheap TV disaster flicks) is that Emmerich has a much bigger budget.

And he likes destroying the whole Earth, not just part of it.

Roger Ebert said it better than I ever will in his review of 2012:

It’s not so much that the Earth is destroyed, but that it’s done so thoroughly. “2012,” the mother of all disaster movies (and the father, and the extended family) spends half an hour on ominous set-up scenes (scientists warn, strange events occur, prophets rant and of course a family is introduced) and then unleashes two hours of cataclysmic special events hammering the Earth relentlessly.

This is fun. “2012” delivers what it promises, and since no sentient being will buy a ticket expecting anything else, it will be, for its audiences, one of the most satisfactory films of the year. It even has real actors in it. Like all the best disaster movies, it’s funniest at its most hysterical. You think you’ve seen end-of-the-world movies? This one ends the world, stomps on it, grinds it up and spits it out.

rogerebert.com

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Targetpractice  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:17:16am

I’m still trying to wrap my head around who exactly in Tucker’s audience these fake cards are supposed to appeal to. My only guess is it’s the sort of people who have the most to lose, namely white and blue collar workers with decades of experience who are afraid of losing their benefits if they get shit-canned for refusal to follow company policy. Because if you’re a poor schlub down in the lower classes, where employee benefits are things like “free drinks” or “discounted rates,” then odds are you’re not the sort of person who’s sweating the possibility that your boss will kick your ass to the curb.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:18:07am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

Roger Ebert said it better than I ever will in his review of 2012:

rogerebert.com

God I hated that movie. Watched it with my brother and niece (the two geologists) and as various geologic stuff starts to happen early on and I’m saying “IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!”. Pretty soon both of them simply told me to turn my brain off and try to enjoy the spectacle.

A real good piece of advice I got from someone way back when right before watching “Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure” was to turn my brain off and just enjoy the wackiness without wanting it to make sense. Similar to how I give “comic book” movies a higher degree of suspension of disbelief since their rules are different from reality.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:29:12am

re: #75 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Movies like 2012 or Moonfall are basically just Big Dumb Movies, popcorn-munching spectacles that really don’t merit any serious thought. The “science” in 2012 was, to put it mildly, laughable.

But if you just switch off the noodle and let that sweet, sweet suspension of disbelief wash over you, disaster films can be enjoyable enough. Two of my faves are When Time Ran Out and The Swarm, a couple of stinkers from Irwin Allen but still fun to watch examples of the “so bad it’s good” film.

Honorable mention: Airport ‘77.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:55:04am

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

Movies like 2012 or Moonfall are basically just Big Dumb Movies, popcorn-munching spectacles that really don’t merit any serious thought. The “science” in 2012 was, to put it mildly, laughable.

But if you just switch off the noodle and let that sweet, sweet suspension of disbelief wash over you, disaster films can be enjoyable enough. Two of my faves are When Time Ran Out and The Swarm, a couple of stinkers from Irwin Allen but still fun to watch examples of the “so bad it’s good” film.

Honorable mention: Airport ‘77.

I think my “acceptance of irrationality” threshold has been lowered in past years in part due to exposure here (and elsewhere) to the rampant irrationality in our body politic. And having a large group of grifters/fascists/exploiters spouting it and expecting us to simply accept it. (Plus the media uncritically lapping it up.)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 2:56:05am

“So bad it’s good”. If we are on a path to destruction as a nation or species, that’s probably where it starts. I blame Jerry Lewis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:00:01am

re: #75 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

God I hated that movie. Watched it with my brother and niece (the two geologists) and as various geologic stuff starts to happen early on and I’m saying “IT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!”. Pretty soon both of them simply told me to turn my brain off and try to enjoy the spectacle.

Agreed. We went to see it at the outdoor cinema at the Loreley in August during the Perseids, and whenever the story started to lag, just looked up at the stars and enjoyed the meteor show.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:00:05am

I’ve always been able to suspend my disbelief watching fantasy movies, but disaster movies need to follow real physics and they always fail.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:00:15am

re: #78 Decatur Deb

“So bad it’s good”. If we are on a path to destruction as a nation or species, that’s probably where it starts. I blame Jerry Lewis.

There’s a fine line, at least for me. For instance, the films of Neil Breen are simply unwatchable, unless it’s the subject of one of those “bad movie reviews”. That being said, well….Neil Breen has actually made films, though it’s probably not entirely wrong to say he really shouldn’t be making films; he makes Ed Wood look like Stanley Kubrick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:04:50am

Uwe Boll. Just bad, not bad enough to be good again.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:05:18am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

There’s a fine line, at least for me. For instance, the films of Neil Breen are simply unwatchable, unless it’s the subject of one of those “bad movie reviews”. That being said, well….Neil Breen has actually made films, though it’s probably not entirely wrong to say he really shouldn’t be making films; he makes Ed Wood look like Stanley Kubrick.

During my post-election funk, I fell into a pit of horror movie watching, especially vampires. Think I hit bottom with Poultrygeist. I’m all better now, and Only Lovers Left Alive is a great movie by any measure.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:10:17am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Uwe Boll. Just bad, not bad enough to be good again.

I don’t know what Uwe Boll’s day job is, but he should go back to it. And if he doesn’t have a day job, he should probably try to find one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:11:57am

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

I don’t know what Uwe Boll’s day job is, but he should go back to it. And if he doesn’t have a day job, he should probably try to find one.

Somehow he manages to find financing. I think that is his main day job.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:14:15am

re: #83 Decatur Deb

During my post-election funk, I fell into a pit of horror movie watching, especially vampires. Think I hit bottom with Poultrygeist. I’m all better now, and Only Lovers Left Alive is a great movie by any measure.

Never saw Poultrygeist. For horror films, I’ve always enjoyed J-Horror or K-Horror films, or other horror films from Southeast Asia. The majority of them are relatively low to mid-budget, which means the production has to focus on things like plot and good acting.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:17:06am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:18:58am

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Never saw Poultrygeist. For horror films, I’ve always enjoyed J-Horror or K-Horror films, or other horror films from Southeast Asia. The majority of them are relatively low to mid-budget, which means the production has to focus on things like plot and good acting.

It’s good to see Korean movies grow up. When we were there, they produced mostly prudish bodice-rippers (from the marquees and posters we could understand). They have a powerful ghost tradition from their animist past.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:21:46am

Off to the eye doc for a 6AM micro-surgery.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:24:29am
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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:29:45am

Eh, not one of my favorite tunes. For a similar feeling in it’s way, I’ll head down that telegraph road…

Mark Knopfler-Telegraph Road-Córdoba 2019

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:30:50am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“An old Russian folk song”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 3:38:07am

re: #93 Dread Pirate Ron

“An old Russian folk song”

Russian soul music

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:01:24am

re: #12 A Mom Anon

I’m confused. I thought roe v. wade was an actual law that made abortion legal. Today I find out it isn’t really a law because it hasn’t gone through another step? It’s not codified? Which means it wasn’t actually written out as to how it would be enforced, what health standards have to be met, etc, is that right? So it was left to the states then, which creates chaos and problems where none should exist.

I don’t consider myself a complete idiot, but what the hell? So this is also why things that should not be up for debate,like voting rights, basic civil rights, need to be made into actual laws, not this half ass bullshit that a bunch of state level spiteful assholes can override like it’s nothing. This is just an insane way to make laws. I’m just pissed off this ONE medical procedure is such a big fucking deal, and has to be fought over and even get killed over, while there’s basically no affordable health care for all of us and we actually fight over it.

All of this country’s weaknesses have been exposed. World wide for all to see openly. We are not currently a strong and united country, and I am not sure how it gets fixed when one group is determined that even killing the rest of us is just fine in service to their version of hell.

roe v. wade is not law. it’s a court decision. it sets precedent for the court on an issue, but the court can just as easily reverse it and say they fucked up the first time. In some ways, as terrible as this will be for women, having the court burn down roe v. wade might ultimately be a positive, in that the next time democrats actually manage to come up with a working majority in the house and senate, they’ll codify black letter law on abortion, and they’ll tell the court to go pound sand. There are ways to do that, though not a lawyer so can’t remember the niceties.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:03:06am

Iron Maiden’s 17th studio album, Senjutsu, is getting good reviews:

theguardian.com

metacritic.com

nme.com

wallofsoundau.com

loudersound.com

Good to see the old chaps have still got it.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:06:35am

Good morning. A balmy 47°F here in NW PA this morning.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:06:57am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:09:48am

re: #97 Eventual Carrion

Good morning. A balmy 47°F here in NW PA this morning.

Good morning, it’s 53F here at the gateway to the Big Valley of California.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:10:42am

re: #98 Patricia Kayden

By Myra Adams, Opinion Contributor

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:12:03am

re: #99 Dread Pirate Ron

Good morning, it’s 53F here at the gateway to the Big Valley of California.

59 °F here in the wild north country, with rain and a projected high of only 66 °F.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:13:25am

re: #97 Eventual Carrion

Good morning. A balmy 47°F here in NW PA this morning.

55 F and clear on the other end of PA. (Just west of Philadelphia and it’s new Grand Canal.)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:14:33am

re: #98 Patricia Kayden

From the comments.

If you think the average swing voter will vote for Mr Jan 6 or the butcher of Florida, you are in the wrong.

‘The Butcher of Florida’

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:16:04am

re: #103 Dread Pirate Ron

From the comments.

‘The Butcher of Florida’

The sad thing is that there will be a not-inconsiderable number of people who WILL vote for ‘The Butcher of Florida’, purely because of party association, because nobody cares how many people you’ve killed when you’re a member of a politically motivated death cult.

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:21:01am

Trying to get into Erickson’s Malazan series. He’s an excellent writer, but I’ve just spent 3 or 4 pages recounting a battle in which I have no fucking idea what just happened. Stuff is just a little too thickly laid on. I need him to channel his inner Lumley and to give me 10 pages or so of lazy exposition so I know who all these people are and how there was just a battle with apparently an army on the moon.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:27:05am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:27:42am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

I’m sure they want to, they just can’t find a way around that pesky Constitution for that one.

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:28:59am

re: #97 Eventual Carrion

Good morning. A balmy 47°F here in NW PA this morning.

It was 66 in here this morning. It hasn’t been 66 in here since sometime during a rainy stretch in May. Fall has officially fell, apparently. I love light jacket weather!

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No Malarkey!  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:31:48am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

Well if the state passes a law allowing vigilantes to sue you for not submitting to massa, well, the Supreme Court can’t be sure the vigilantes will actually file that suit, so I’m afraid their hands are tied, you see.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:34:51am

I get the feeling that China’s economy is running into some rough waters ahead.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:36:34am

Second-order effects of the COVID-19 pandemic here in the EU, which is still far from over.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:38:54am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

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I get the feeling that China’s economy is running into some rough waters ahead.

I suspect some ∆ problems.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:39:44am

Second-order COVID-19 effects combined with ongoing Brexit woes:

This tweet clearly and obviously heralds inflation on the horizon in the UK:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:41:04am

I don’t know how I got on this website or whose it was but this picture caught my funny bone.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:42:19am

re: #112 Dread Pirate Ron

I suspect some ∆ problems.

In ten to fifteen years, China is looking at a demographics problem as well. By 2035, they will have the biggest percentage of pensioners in the world, even bigger than Japan today. And quite frankly, the don’t have the young folks to replace them, a consequence of the former one child per couple policy, which was finally reversed not that long ago.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:42:34am

re: #113 Dr Lizardo

Second-order COVID-19 effects combined with ongoing Brexit woes:

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Been reading lately how the drivers from Eastern Europe have abandoned the UK in droves since Brexit and there is nowhere near enough truck drivers left. Too bad so sad…

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:44:51am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Cheese.

The Moon is made of cheese.

It’s a dragon egg.

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jeffreyw  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:45:36am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:45:51am

re: #116 William Lewis

Been reading lately how the drivers from Eastern Europe have abandoned the UK in droves since Brexit and there is nowhere near enough truck drivers left. Too bad so sad…

The British public were sold a bill of goods, a fantastic tale of fair winds, rainbows and sunlit uplands with unicorns prancing about and shitting Cadbury Creme Eggs.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:47:13am

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

The British public were sold a bill of goods, a fantastic tale of fair winds, rainbows and sunlit uplands with unicorns prancing about and shitting Cadbury Creme Eggs.

And in reality, what they got was a pile of manure and a war with Iceland over fishing. Again.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:48:33am

re: #40 Dread Pirate Ron

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I did not expect 40-49 to be our best vaccinated group under 75.

The 50-59 category is doing pretty well also. I just happen to be leaving that category in 4 more days on my 60th BDay on the 7th.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:54:49am

re: #56 Dread Pirate Ron

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“Buying a fake Social Security card is an act of desperation by decent, law-abiding refugees who have been forced into a corner by tyrants.”

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:54:56am

re: #77 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think my “acceptance of irrationality” threshold has been lowered in past years in part due to exposure here (and elsewhere) to the rampant irrationality in our body politic. And having a large group of grifters/fascists/exploiters spouting it and expecting us to simply accept it. (Plus the media uncritically lapping it up.)

was 2012 the one where the kids have to race into the library with the fire and close the door behind them to be safe from the weird thing where the cold of outer space is being sucked down to ground level? I’m still trying to figure out how being in a poorly insulated room with a working fire was supposed to be an impediment to something that was sucking all the air down to 200 below zero.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 4:58:31am

re: #123 steve_davis

That was The Day After Tomorrow. Yeah, that scene had me chuckling.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:00:24am

re: #123 steve_davis

was 2012 the one where the kids have to race into the library with the fire and close the door behind them to be safe from the weird thing where the cold of outer space is being sucked down to ground level? I’m still trying to figure out how being in a poorly insulated room with a working fire was supposed to be an impediment to something that was sucking all the air down to 200 below zero.

Wow, a remake of Fritz Leiber’s “A Pailful of Air”!
And John Koenig of Moonbase Alpha would like a word…
///

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:00:55am

re: #123 steve_davis

“2012” essentially does some BS core heating thing leading to cataclysmic polar shift stuff, mega quakes (making California fall into the sea), and land masses skating around on the surface like a pat of butter on a hot griddle.

en.wikipedia.org

And I am only barely touching on the laughability of the various things going on.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:09:49am

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

“2012” essentially does some BS core heating thing leading to cataclysmic polar shift stuff, mega quakes (making California fall into the sea), and land masses skating around on the surface like a pat of butter on a hot griddle.

en.wikipedia.org

And I am only barely touching on the laughability of the various things going on.

LOL, it was (IIRC) neutrinos from the Sun that kicked off that cinematic apocalypse. For a second or two, my brain said, “Hold up, dafuq? That’s not possible” but then my brain said, “Shhh….just roll with it, man.”

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:13:11am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:13:33am

re: #128 Patricia Kayden

The FBI likes this.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:14:54am

Must be a slow news day - the British tabloid press is talking about Operation London Bridge like it’s some big secret or something. Apparently, someone on the Politico staff must’ve gotten bored and started poking around Wikipedia, because this has been known for quite sometime. And once Politico ran with it, the tabloid press picked it up like it’s new and revelatory.

en.wikipedia.org

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:16:12am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

Must be a slow news day - the British tabloid press is talking about Operation London Bridge like it’s some big secret or something. Apparently, someone on the Politico staff must’ve gotten bored and started poking around Wikipedia, because this has been known for quite sometime. And once Politico ran with it, the tabloid press picked it up like it’s new and revelatory.

en.wikipedia.org

Just wait until they hear about War Plan Crimson, the US’s plan for war with Canada.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:16:24am

re: #109 No Malarkey!

Well if the state passes a law allowing vigilantes to sue you for not submitting to massa, well, the Supreme Court can’t be sure the vigilantes will actually file that suit, so I’m afraid their hands are tied, you see.

Josh Ritter - Torch Committee (Audio)

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:17:59am

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

I’m sure Moonfall will be chock full of cheesiness.

That and I get the feeling that Roland Emmerich really hates the Earth.

If Roland Emmerich hates his audience, I don’t know what he would do differently.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:18:21am

re: #97 Eventual Carrion

Good morning. A balmy 47°F here in NW PA this morning.

Morning. It a cool 52 here in Twin. A high of 77 is predicted,

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:18:30am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

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Second-order effects of the COVID-19 pandemic here in the EU, which is still far from over.

yep, cases are picking up again and many localities are tightening restrictions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:20:27am

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

The British public were sold a bill of goods, a fantastic tale of fair winds, rainbows and sunlit uplands with unicorns prancing about and shitting Cadbury Creme Eggs.

They were sold a promise, not a done deal. I cannot imagine any UK majority would have voted for the steaming turd of a Brexit deal that Boris tried to present to them like a fine steak-and-kidney pie…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:20:36am

re: #131 Dopamine Fish

None of this should be new to any reasonably well-informed person. Indeed, if the British didn’t have a plan to go into effect when the monarch dies, I’d be genuinely shocked.

That being said, it will be a momentous occasion when she passes on. She’s the only British monarch I’ve known in my lifetime of 52 years and of course, there’s a ton of Brits (and Commonwealth citizens) who’d be in the same boat as me.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:20:44am

re: #134 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Morning. It a cool 52 here in Twin. A high of 77 is predicted,

56 in HMB - high of 67. Good morning.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:22:35am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

None of this should be new to any reasonably well-informed person. Indeed, if the British didn’t have a plan to go into effect when the monarch dies, I’d be genuinely shocked.

That being said, it will be a momentous occasion when she passes on. She’s the only British monarch I’ve known in my lifetime of 52 years and of course, there’s a ton of Brits (and Commonwealth citizens) who’d be in the same boat as me.

Indeed, the death of Her Majesty will be a world-altering event. She’s been queen for nearly 70 years now. As you say, if the UK didn’t have a plan to handle her death after nearly 70 years as the reigning monarch, something is seriously wrong with them.

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William Lewis  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:23:24am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

None of this should be new to any reasonably well-informed person. Indeed, if the British didn’t have a plan to go into effect when the monarch dies, I’d be genuinely shocked.

That being said, it will be a momentous occasion when she passes on. She’s the only British monarch I’ve known in my lifetime of 52 years and of course, there’s a ton of Brits (and Commonwealth citizens) who’d be in the same boat as me.

I must admit I’m hoping for her to get past 100 before she leaves. The Platinum Jubilee next year would be fun too.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:24:08am

re: #140 William Lewis

I must admit I’m hoping for her to get past 100 before she leaves. The Platinum Jubilee next year would be fun too.

Me, I’m hoping she outlives Prince Charles out of sheer spite. Unlikely though that is, it would be hilarious if that prick never got to see the throne.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:25:49am

re: #141 Dopamine Fish

Charles is no spring chicken; his reign wouldn’t be all that long and then William takes over the throne.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:26:47am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They were sold a promise, not a done deal. I cannot imagine any UK majority would have voted for the steaming turd of a Brexit deal that Boris tried to present to them like a fine steak-and-kidney pie…

“Easiest deal in history!”

- some moron, I think it was Michael Gove

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:30:29am

Democrats keep thinking process moves the needle.

It doesn’t.

Action moves the needle.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:31:47am

I was reading this on the Wiki entry on Operation London Bridge:

The media would be informed via an announcement to PA Media and the BBC through the Radio Alert Transmission System (RATS) and to commercial radio on the Independent Radio News through a network of blue “obit lights” which will alert presenters to play “inoffensive music” and prepare for a news flash,

and this immediately popped into my head…

Blues Brothers - elevator music

I’m so going to hell.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:32:23am

re: #144 lawhawk

Democrats keep thinking process moves the needle.

It doesn’t.

Action moves the needle.

As you have said repeatedly, the filibuster is a relic of a bygone era, a way for the racist Southern Senators to avoid legislation they didn’t like. This adherence to “historical traditions” is simply a cop-out, a way for Manchin, Sinema, and others to dodge responsibility for the collapse of our grand Republic because they are too cowardly to take decisive action.

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Nojay UK  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:32:45am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They were sold a promise, not a done deal. I cannot imagine any UK majority would have voted for the steaming turd of a Brexit deal that Boris tried to present to them like a fine steak-and-kidney pie…

Don’t bet on it. Britain is full of racists and small-minded xenophobic pricks who voted for Brexit not because of the promise of economic miracles and liberty but their wish to send the Polish plumbers and Estonian truck drivers back where they came from, oh and take the asylum seekers with you when you go byeeee!

There have been plenty of Cletus Safaris by the press here in the UK, reports of pro-Brexit folks who are satisfied to see the back of the foreigners who won’t talk English and eat funny food and… but Amalia, the Romanian girl from the agency who comes in three times a week to take care of grandma at home, surely she doesn’t need to leave? Can’t the government make an exception for her?

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:37:39am

re: #80 Dread Pirate Ron

I’ve always been able to suspend my disbelief watching fantasy movies, but disaster movies need to follow real physics and they always fail.

Most science fiction still requires some suspension of some part of physics. Even Star Trek requires us to accept that we’ve created a form of space travel that gets around General Relativity.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:40:03am

re: #33 Dread Pirate Ron

Ever since I saw Disney’s ‘Charlie, The Lonesome Cougar’ in 1967, I wanted one as a pet.

I’d rather have a Pallas’s Cat

Nice Kitteh

.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:41:31am

re: #39 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Powerball is at 367M.

Powerball shifted to 3 draws a week - sucker should climb up real soon.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:43:22am

re: #148 Belafon

Most science fiction still requires some suspension of some part of physics. Even Star Trek requires us to accept that we’ve created a form of space travel that gets around General Relativity.

Relativity is only a theory…it’s never been proven.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:45:53am

re: #148 Belafon

Most science fiction still requires some suspension of some part of physics. Even Star Trek requires us to accept that we’ve created a form of space travel that gets around General Relativity.

Yeah, even the Battlestar Galactica reboot from a decade ago had FTL drive. Granted, used in spectacular fashion….

The Adama Maneuver - Battlestar Galactica 4K

…but still requiring a suspension of disbelief.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:55:08am

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, even the Battlestar Galactica reboot from a decade ago had FTL drive. Granted, used in spectacular fashion….

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Video

…but still requiring a suspension of disbelief.

That was some good flying…they’re on our side?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:57:52am

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 5:59:38am

So what do you think? Should the children of John, Paul, George and Ringo form a band? Not even a cover band of their dads stuff, but a real band unto itself (not that they couldn’t cover a few Beatles songs).

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:01:26am

re: #131 Dopamine Fish

Just wait until they hear about War Plan Crimson, the US’s plan for war with Canada.

West Wing, s.6 ep 17, “A Good Day”

Kate: Ambassador, listen carefully. An hour ago I reviewed the U.S. contingency plan to invade your country.
Josh: There’s a contingency plan? -
Kate: 1789, amended in 1815. The calligraphy is beautiful.

(note from a West Wing fansite:

The US military’s most recent contingency plan for invading Canada is actually from 1924, not 1815. “War Plan Red” was developed as an academic exercise by the Army War College. Its premise was the US going to war with the United Kingdom, and invading Canada since it was part of the British Empire.)

N.B. in this episode, we do accidentally invade Canada. Some hunters in Montana didn’t realize they’d crossed the border, things escalated…

Kate: Have shots been fired?
Mountie on speakerphone: Yes, but there were geese in the air.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:02:23am

re: #144 lawhawk

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Democrats keep thinking process moves the needle.

It doesn’t.

Action moves the needle.

How are you going to get them to change?

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:10:42am

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:11:47am

re: #151 darthstar

Relativity is only a theory…it’s never been proven.

Gravity too. All the same, I’d prefer not to jump off the roof to test it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:12:51am

Texas women should start suing the “fathers” for child support right at the 6 week mark.watch then argue in court how it’s “not a child”.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:15:36am

re: #160 GlutenFreeJesus

Texas women should start suing the “fathers” for child support right at the 6 week mark.watch then argue in court how it’s “not a child”.

Yep, and I say the same thing about life insurance. After 6 weeks then take out a life insurance policy on the “baby”. At the rate of only ~30 - 40% of conceptions making it to live birth the insurance companies will be flooded with claims.

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:20:36am

August jobs report:

235,000 jobs added. Expectations had been 3x that much, but Delta really fucked the leisure and hospitality sectors.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:23:15am

re: #143 Dr Lizardo

“Easiest deal in history!”

- some moron, I think it was Michael Gove

They really thought that the EU would let the UK dictate terms.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:23:39am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They really thought that the EU would let the UK dictate terms.

Negotiating with Brussels isn’t like negotiating with Donald Trump, folks.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:24:18am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They really thought that the EU would let the UK dictate terms.

Pretty much. The common Brexiteer refrain was, “They need us more than we need them!”

Oops.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:33:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:34:56am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Pretty much. The common Brexiteer refrain was, “They need us more than we need them!”

Oops.

The EU had to make an example out of the UK to keep other nations from getting similar ideas.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:44:14am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The EU had to make an example out of the UK to keep other nations from getting similar ideas.

They didn’t exactly have to try.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:45:45am

I’ve seen the suggestion that Biden should use federal lands to provide abortions, but that’s current prohibited by the Hyde amendment.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:46:13am
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Nojay UK  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:46:25am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The EU had to make an example out of the UK to keep other nations from getting similar ideas.

The EU is treating Britain just like it treats any other non-EU country like Turkey. Britain thinks it should be treated better than places like Turkey because of how it used to be with free movement, no blockages at the ports etc. when we were in the EU. A lot of Brexit supporters wanted the smelly foreigners to go home but have the trucks rolling through the entry ports without stopping like before, be able to go on holiday in Portugal where they had a holiday home, retire to somewhere sunny and cheap to live and so on. They’re very annoyed that the dastardly EU is treating good British white folks like, like… foreigners! How dare they!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:46:27am

re: #95 steve_davis

roe v. wade is not law. it’s a court decision. it sets precedent for the court on an issue, but the court can just as easily reverse it and say they fucked up the first time. In some ways, as terrible as this will be for women, having the court burn down roe v. wade might ultimately be a positive, in that the next time democrats actually manage to come up with a working majority in the house and senate, they’ll codify black letter law on abortion, and they’ll tell the court to go pound sand. There are ways to do that, though not a lawyer so can’t remember the niceties.

And when this corrupt Court overturns the law, what then????

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:46:56am
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Dangerman  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:48:07am

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

The British public were sold a bill of goods, a fantastic tale of fair winds, rainbows and sunlit uplands with unicorns prancing about and shitting Cadbury Creme Eggs.

It was the dynamic scoring

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:49:03am

re: #100 Dread Pirate Ron

By Myra Adams, Opinion Contributor

Myra Adams — writes for National Review.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:51:55am

re: #104 Dopamine Fish

The sad thing is that there will be a not-inconsiderable number of people who WILL vote for ‘The Butcher of Florida’, purely because of party association, because nobody cares how many people you’ve killed when you’re a member of a politically motivated death cult.

My Trumpster FB friend just described Florida as being a free state that others should emulate. Anyone can wear a mask if they want to — they are just not forced to. The Trump cult are brain-dead zombies who don’t care how many die; they will never give up their loyalty to their party.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:52:10am

It’s not just our health care workers:

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:53:53am

Can’t wait for people to be trying this:

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:53:57am

re: #176 Hecuba’s daughter

My Trumpster FB friend just described Florida as being a free state that others should emulate. Anyone can wear a mask if they want to — they are just not forced to. The Trump cult are brain-dead zombies who don’t care how many die; they will never give up their loyalty to their party.

That line is seven shades of bullshit. Anyone can wear a mask, if you want to get screamed at and physically assaulted by assholes who want you and everyone around you to die a horrible death on a ventilator in a hospital.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:56:26am

We’re number Texas:

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 6:57:50am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:04:08am

re: #181 Belafon

Okay, look. It’s a dumb idea to allow visitors into a COVID ward in the first place, so that’s bad enough. But WHY in the EVER-LOVING FUCK would a person go into a hospital room and START FUCKING WITH THINGS?!? You are not a doctor. You are not a nurse. You most likely brought the person to the hospital in the first place and entrusted them with the person’s care. If you don’t trust the hospital, take them home - don’t fuck around with the hospital’s very expensive and expertly managed equipment!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:05:15am

re: #177 Belafon

There ya go. Market solutions.

Now watch all the wingnuts bleat, “NO, NO, NOT LIKE THAT!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:08:59am

re: #171 Nojay UK

The EU is treating Britain just like it treats any other non-EU country like Turkey. Britain thinks it should be treated better …They’re very annoyed that the dastardly EU is treating good British white folks like, like… foreigners! How dare they!

Those are two main excuses offered up by Boris & buddies to answer all the current Brexit headaches: Pandemic and the “intransigent” EU.

They offered Britain any number of sub-variants such as they have with places like Norway or Switzerland but not their very own special sweetheart deal.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:09:00am

re: #182 Dopamine Fish

Okay, look. It’s a dumb idea to allow visitors into a COVID ward in the first place, so that’s bad enough. But WHY in the EVER-LOVING FUCK would a person go into a hospital room and START FUCKING WITH THINGS?!? You are not a doctor. You are not a nurse. You most likely brought the person to the hospital in the first place and entrusted them with the person’s care. If you don’t trust the hospital, take them home - don’t fuck around with the hospital’s very expensive and expertly managed equipment!

Because these people think they are smarter than doctors and actual doctors are all agents of the deep state trying to kill their family members using a disease that doesn’t actually exist as cover.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:10:47am

re: #185 Eclectic Cyborg

Because these people think they are smarter than doctors and actual doctors are all agents of the deep state trying to kill their family members using a disease that doesn’t actually exist as cover.

So then TAKE THEM HOME! Shove a tube of sheep dip up their ass, if that’s what you really think will save them. Don’t take them to a hospital and then actively try to screw with them. Pick a lane and stay in it.

Sorry. It’s a rainy Friday, I’ve worked way too much this week, and I’m completely out of fucks for stupid assholes.

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:13:44am

That’s going to be a novel defense strategy: “These so-called innocent children did NOT use their inside voices, despite repeated admonitions from authority figures. Clearly, they got what was coming to them … “

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teleskiguy  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:13:55am

Greetings from Torch Lake, Michigan. It’s my first visit to the state. It’s heavily forested.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:13:58am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those are two main excuses offered up by Boris & buddies to answer all the current Brexit headaches: Pandemic and the “intransigent” EU.

They offered Britain any number of sub-variants such as they have with places like Norway or Switzerland but not their very own special sweetheart deal.

BUT WE HAVE A FREE TRADE DEAL WITH GHANA, WHICH HAS A GDP OF checks notes 67 BILLION DOLLARS PER ANNUM!!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:15:06am

re: #182 Dopamine Fish

Okay, look. It’s a dumb idea to allow visitors into a COVID ward in the first place, so that’s bad enough. But WHY in the EVER-LOVING FUCK would a person go into a hospital room and START FUCKING WITH THINGS?!? You are not a doctor. You are not a nurse. You most likely brought the person to the hospital in the first place and entrusted them with the person’s care. If you don’t trust the hospital, take them home - don’t fuck around with the hospital’s very expensive and expertly managed equipment!

They did their research online so it’s cool

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:17:32am

re: #190 Eventual Carrion

They did their research online so it’s cool

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:17:35am

re: #188 teleskiguy

Greetings from Torch Lake, Michigan. It’s my first visit to the state. It’s heavily forested.

Michigan, especially the northern reaches, is a very wild and beautiful place. My mom’s dad apparently used to take his tiny aluminum fishing boat up to the UP with my mom, my aunt, and their mom. Mom tells a story where one time, her sister and her went with friends to Michigan, and they’re sitting outside screwing around, and she sees a very familiar face in a very familiar boat, floating down the river. Apparently, with the kids out of the house, her parents decided this would be the ideal time to take their own vacation to Michigan, and they wound up randomly crossing paths in Bumfuck Middle of Nowhere.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:20:17am

This woman, I hate to admit, is my state senator.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:25:14am

So we’ve about reached the point of ACTUAL snake oil here? That’s where were at?

/

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No Malarkey!  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:25:21am

re: #190 Eventual Carrion

They did their research online so it’s cool

More dead people who did their research on line have been added to sorryantivaxxer.com.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:27:00am

re: #195 No Malarkey!

Notice that just about everyone that site features is a white person?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:27:23am

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

So we’ve about reached the point of ACTUAL snake oil here? That’s where were at?

/

Good, now anti-vaxxers will become literal snake handlers. You almost wish they would just shoot themselves so we can get this pandemic over already.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:27:39am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Notice that just about everyone that site features is a white person?

But it’s Blacks and illegal immigrants who are spreading the COVID around…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:31:47am

re: #187 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

I can only assume that Remington is just using delaying tactics to buy time to go hide their assets where they cannot be touched in a civil suit.

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jeffreyw  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:33:08am

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

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So we’ve about reached the point of ACTUAL snake oil here? That’s where were at?

/

Doctors won’t tell you this, but I heard that any snake venom will work, rattlers and copperheads especially.
/

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:36:21am

Our Great Falls is running something fierce today, and tomorrow is predicted to be peak flow due to Ida remnants.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:36:39am

At coronavirus.jhu.edu, deaths in the U.S. went over 10k for the last week, and over 29k for the past month. Delta is a killer.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:38:28am

re: #182 Dopamine Fish

Okay, look. It’s a dumb idea to allow visitors into a COVID ward in the first place, so that’s bad enough. But WHY in the EVER-LOVING FUCK would a person go into a hospital room and START FUCKING WITH THINGS?!? You are not a doctor. You are not a nurse. You most likely brought the person to the hospital in the first place and entrusted them with the person’s care. If you don’t trust the hospital, take them home - don’t fuck around with the hospital’s very expensive and expertly managed equipment!

But FOX and Tucker Carlson told them that all the treatment equipment is fake. It’s just there to look important* and be an excuse for the huge bill they are going to hand out as they grab all the hard earned money from the patient.

* - Must have The Machine That Goes PING!

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:40:58am

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

“2012” essentially does some BS core heating thing leading to cataclysmic polar shift stuff, mega quakes (making California fall into the sea), and land masses skating around on the surface like a pat of butter on a hot griddle.

en.wikipedia.org

And I am only barely touching on the laughability of the various things going on.

oh right! the one where there are like 6 or 7 escape scenes in which the world is falling away behind the plane/car/boat/giant eagle that everyone is on at the time. It was like somebody said, “we have no plot. let’s just cgi the hell out of this momma.”

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BeachDem  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:41:43am

re: #180 Belafon

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Welp—my county is certainly helping to keep SC in the top three. 11,600 students (out of about 45,000) in quarantine. One high school has 800 (out of 2,200.)

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:42:38am

re: #118 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:42:51am

re: #182 Dopamine Fish

Okay, look. It’s a dumb idea to allow visitors into a COVID ward in the first place, so that’s bad enough. But WHY in the EVER-LOVING FUCK would a person go into a hospital room and START FUCKING WITH THINGS?!? You are not a doctor. You are not a nurse. You most likely brought the person to the hospital in the first place and entrusted them with the person’s care. If you don’t trust the hospital, take them home - don’t fuck around with the hospital’s very expensive and expertly managed equipment!

They think they know better than the professionals.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:43:15am

re: #204 steve_davis

oh right! the one where there are like 6 or 7 escape scenes in which the world is falling away behind the plane/car/boat/giant eagle that everyone is on at the time. It was like somebody said, “we have no plot. let’s just cgi the hell out of this momma.”

AKA the “James Cameron Avatar” approach.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:46:37am

re: #182 Dopamine Fish

Okay, look. It’s a dumb idea to allow visitors into a COVID ward in the first place, so that’s bad enough. But WHY in the EVER-LOVING FUCK would a person go into a hospital room and START FUCKING WITH THINGS?!? You are not a doctor. You are not a nurse. You most likely brought the person to the hospital in the first place and entrusted them with the person’s care. If you don’t trust the hospital, take them home - don’t fuck around with the hospital’s very expensive and expertly managed equipment!

Toddlers will press buttons and twist knobs, and some people never develop beyond that level.

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:47:17am

re: #148 Belafon

Most science fiction still requires some suspension of some part of physics. Even Star Trek requires us to accept that we’ve created a form of space travel that gets around General Relativity.

and that vulcans/klingons/humans can apparently create offspring, which is just so thoroughly preposterous that I want to strangle that one half klingon kid that worf and whosiwhatsy spawn every time he crops up, which I think fortunately is only once.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:48:58am

re: #204 steve_davis

oh right! the one where there are like 6 or 7 escape scenes in which the world is falling away behind the plane/car/boat/giant eagle that everyone is on at the time. It was like somebody said, “we have no plot. let’s just cgi the hell out of this momma.”

Roland Emmerich is well known for his effects heavy popcorn flicks. See also: Stargate, Independence Day, Godzilla (1998) and of course, the aforementioned Day After Tomorrow.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:49:14am

re: #204 steve_davis

oh right! the one where there are like 6 or 7 escape scenes in which the world is falling away behind the plane/car/boat/giant eagle that everyone is on at the time. It was like somebody said, “we have no plot. let’s just cgi the hell out of this momma.”

And it was glorious!!

2012 (2009) - Yellowstone Erupts Scene (4/10) | Movieclips

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:49:20am

Having grown up on movies where tarantulas take over whole towns, a shot will turn someone into a snake, keeping someone’s eyes open for long periods will brainwash them, and a giant battle station can be destroyed by two rockets angling down a tube at the last moment (a world that has both AI and yet people have to fly their fighters in to fire conventional rockets) , and other, similar, things, I don’t go into movies thinking I’m going to hold them to some high standard of technical accuracy.

To me, the most implausible part of 2012 was the two main characters acting like they had never gotten a divorce at the end, especially after her husband was crushed.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:52:04am

re: #210 steve_davis

and that vulcans/klingons/humans can apparently create offspring, which is just so thoroughly preposterous that I want to strangle that one half klingon kid that worf and whosiwhatsy spawn every time he crops up, which I think fortunately is only once.

Paramount needs to do a series called Vulkanish, showing Spock’s childhood years.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:52:12am

re: #213 Belafon

Having grown up on movies where tarantulas take over whole towns,

Kingdom of the Spiders. I remember that flick! With William Shatner and the ending with the whole town cocooned!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:56:57am

re: #215 Dr Lizardo

Kingdom of the Spiders. I remember that flick! With William Shatner and the ending with the whole town cocooned!

Empire of The Ants was on the tube here yesterday. I love all those old flicks. The kind of stuff you’d see on Svengoolie.

Svengoolie The Killer Shrews Opening

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No Malarkey!  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:58:06am

re: #216 GlutenFreeJesus

Empire of The Ants was on the tube here yesterday. I love all those old flicks. The kind of stuff you’d see on Svengoolie.

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Ever see the movie with the giant bunny rabbits?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:59:29am

re: #217 No Malarkey!

LOL Night of the Lepus.

Night Of The Lepus (Trailer)

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 7:59:40am

re: #181 Belafon

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oh christ. i’m gonna be thinking about the boogery nose while I’m eating schlotzky’s today, I pretty much know that, thank you very much.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:00:25am

re: #216 GlutenFreeJesus

Empire of The Ants was on the tube here yesterday. I love all those old flicks. The kind of stuff you’d see on Svengoolie.

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That’s another one I remember, with Joan Collins. From Bert I. Gordon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:01:15am

I have just lost an (unvaccinated) friend to Covid. Typical story. He was a healthy fit person before he contracted the virus.

Our issues over Covid aside, he was a genuinely great guy with a good family and a huge heart. He’s the same damn age I am.

For the love of God people, GET THE FUCKING SHOT!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:01:28am

re: #217 No Malarkey!

Ever see the movie with the giant bunny rabbits?

“With nasty big pointy teeth!!”?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:01:39am

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

I have just lost an (unvaccinated friend) to Covid. Typical story. He was a healthy fit person before he contracted the virus.

Our issues over Covid aside, he was a genuinely great guy with a good family and a huge heart. He’s the same damn age I am.

For the love of God people, GET THE FUCKING SHOT!

I’m sorry to hear that.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:02:07am

Here’s a doozy - The Giant Spider Invasion.

The Giant Spider Invasion HD - 1975 - FULL MOVIE 🍿 (Sci-Fi / Horror)

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:02:46am

re: #169 Belafon

I’ve seen the suggestion that Biden should use federal lands to provide abortions, but that’s current prohibited by the Hyde amendment.

I wonder how the Native tribes feel about it. They’re sovereign on the reservations.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:04:18am

My fave ant movie is still:

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:05:40am

re: #226 GlutenFreeJesus

Them! is a classic. For me, the definite “big bug” movie. Followed closely by Tarantula.

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:08:24am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can only assume that Remington is just using delaying tactics to buy time to go hide their assets where they cannot be touched in a civil suit.

it’s a hail mary. they’re hoping the records don’t exist and they’ll be able to claim these kids were all crisis actors.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:09:07am

There could be a method to the madness of the GOP’s anti-vaxx brigade; crater the economy and take back the House and Senate in next year’s mid-terms.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:09:19am

re: #210 steve_davis

and that vulcans/klingons/humans can apparently create offspring, which is just so thoroughly preposterous that I want to strangle that one half klingon kid that worf and whosiwhatsy spawn every time he crops up, which I think fortunately is only once.

That was explained in Next Generation. These species are all engineered by an earlier life form, and are all related.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:10:28am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

LOL Night of the Lepus.

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Video

I watched that movie…twice. Surprised it didn’t win an Oscar.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:11:20am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

There could be a method to the madness of the GOP’s anti-vaxx brigade; crater the economy and take back the House and Senate in next year’s mid-terms.

There’s a flaw in that strategy. Dead people can’t vote.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:13:24am

re: #213 Belafon

Having grown up on movies where tarantulas take over whole towns, a shot will turn someone into a snake, keeping someone’s eyes open for long periods will brainwash them, and a giant battle station can be destroyed by two rockets angling down a tube at the last moment (a world that has both AI and yet people have to fly their fighters in to fire conventional rockets) , and other, similar, things, I don’t go into movies thinking I’m going to hold them to some high standard of technical accuracy.

To me, the most implausible part of 2012 was the two main characters acting like they had never gotten a divorce at the end, especially after her husband was crushed.

I read years ago that the original concept for 2012 was a parody of all disaster movies; and certain scenes seemed to fit right in with that concept. It was intended to be way over the top and it was. In any case, I don’t believe his ex was married to plastic surgeon, but that they were living together.

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steve_davis  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:14:41am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

And it was glorious!!

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Video

re: #230 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That was explained in Next Generation. These species are all engineered by an earlier life form, and are all related.

well, yes, I got that, but humans, chimpanzees, and homo australopithecus were all designed by the same creator, and you don’t see us banging along making viable offspring together.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:15:08am

re: #233 Hecuba’s daughter

I read years ago that the original concept for 2012 was a parody of all disaster movies; and certain scenes seemed to fit right in with that concept. It was intended to be way over the top and it was. In any case, I don’t believe his ex was married to plastic surgeon, but that they were living together.

Yeah, I think the plastic surgeon dude was probably boning a lot of his clients.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:16:30am

re: #230 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That was explained in Next Generation. These species are all engineered by an earlier life form, and are all related.

retcon — to try to explain something that was clearly not possible based on our current understanding of genetics and evolution.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:19:46am

re: #234 steve_davis

well, yes, I got that, but humans, chimpanzees, and homo australopithecus were all designed by the same creator, and you don’t see us banging along making viable offspring together.

Wait until someone says it’s a cure for Covid.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:19:51am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, I think the plastic surgeon dude was probably boning a lot of his clients.

He actually seemed like a really decent guy who cared for her and her children. The director had to kill him off so that she wasn’t facing a dilemma of choosing between two good men who loved her.

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A Cranky One  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:21:54am

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:23:58am
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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:23:59am

re: #233 Hecuba’s daughter

I read years ago that the original concept for 2012 was a parody of all disaster movies; and certain scenes seemed to fit right in with that concept. It was intended to be way over the top and it was. In any case, I don’t believe his ex was married to plastic surgeon, but that they were living together.

It definitely was. I think the director enjoyed the movies as a kid and wanted to do them with real budgets and CGI.

It, and Neil Stephenson’s book Seven Eves, were partially reactions to George R. R. Martin. Stephenson said the only way he could think to outdo Martin in the death department was to kill off nearly everyone.

Edited

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:26:54am

re: #241 Belafon

reload

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:29:12am

So I was down to the Post Office yesterday, and looky what I found:

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:31:00am

re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus

“With nasty big pointy teeth!!”?

Anya’s Bunny song. BTVS once more with feeling

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:31:12am

re: #241 Belafon

It definitely was. I think the director enjoyed the movies as a kid and wanted to do them with real budgets and CGI.

It, and Neil Stephenson’s book Seven Eves, were partially reactions to George R. R. Martin. Stephenson said the only way he could think to outdo Martin in the death department was to kill off nearly everyone.

Edited

2012 is kind of an affectionate parody and a love letter to 1970s big-screen, all-star cast disaster films. Movies like Earthquake, The Poseidon Adventure, When Time Ran Out, etc.

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JC1  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:32:22am

re: #187 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

That’s going to be a novel defense strategy: “These so-called innocent children did NOT use their inside voices, despite repeated admonitions from authority figures. Clearly, they got what was coming to them … “

If this is a jury trial, I can see this backfiring big time.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:33:06am

re: #243 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

What?! No R5-D4?! I am outraged!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:34:15am
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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:35:03am

re: #246 JC1

How can Remington look like bigger assholes than they currently are?

Lawyers: we could ask to see the kindergarteners attendance records and grades?
Remington execs: perfect.

As a strategy this makes no sense. These toddlers were innocent victims of a mass shooter who used one of the Remington firearms to carry out the mass homicide. Their attendance records and grades don’t enter into this - you take their condition as you find them. And their condition is dead courtesy of the easy availability of these kinds of firearms.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:36:23am

re: #249 lawhawk

How can Remington look like bigger assholes than they currently are?

Lawyers: we could ask to see the kindergarteners attendance records and grades?
Remington execs: perfect.

As a strategy this makes no sense. These toddlers were innocent victims of a mass shooter who used one of the Remington firearms to carry out the mass homicide. Their attendance records and grades don’t enter into this - you take their condition as you find them. And their condition is dead courtesy of the easy availability of these kinds of firearms.

It’s Ayn Rand’s train scene.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:36:42am

re: #247 Dr Lizardo

What?! No R5-D4?! I am outraged!

Take it up with the Postal Service.

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:37:24am

re: #249 lawhawk

How can Remington look like bigger assholes than they currently are?

Lawyers: we could ask to see the kindergarteners attendance records and grades?
Remington execs: perfect.

As a strategy this makes no sense. These toddlers were innocent victims of a mass shooter who used one of the Remington firearms to carry out the mass homicide. Their attendance records and grades don’t enter into this - you take their condition as you find them. And their condition is dead courtesy of the easy availability of these kinds of firearms.

Didn’t the school get bulldozed because townspeople just couldn’t bear to look at it? Maybe Remington is hoping some of the records got lost.

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jeffreyw  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:37:46am

Waiting for the harvest, and the time of reaping,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves peppers.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:39:55am

re: #253 jeffreyw

Holy shishito!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:41:18am

re: #236 Hecuba’s daughter

retcon — to try to explain something that was clearly not possible based on our current understanding of genetics and evolution.

It’s a soft science fiction TV show.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:41:52am
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plansbandc  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:41:59am

re: #182 Dopamine Fish

Why? Because we live in a country filled with profoundly stupid people. And said stupid people are electing other stupid people who make laws that affect all of us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:43:04am

re: #234 steve_davis

well, yes, I got that, but humans, chimpanzees, and homo australopithecus were all designed by the same creator, and you don’t see us banging along making viable offspring together.

I dunno…
have you seen Alex Jones?

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:43:10am

re: #253 jeffreyw

Waiting for the harvest, and the time of reaping,
We shall come rejoicing, bringing in the sheaves peppers.

Hot Ones: The Game Show - Official Trailer | Sean Evans is Bringing the Heat | truTV

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:44:23am

re: #248 GlutenFreeJesus

Is that clip from The Kentucky Fried Movie?

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plansbandc  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:45:05am

re: #188 teleskiguy

I went there a couple of times in August for the now defunct women’s festival. I was struck by all the trees and all the green. Then it started raining. And raining. AND raining. Yep, that’s why it is green. Did have some of the biggest and best blueberries I’ve ever eaten though.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:48:13am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:49:43am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

Is that clip from The Kentucky Fried Movie?

Indeed it is!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:52:21am

re: #139 Dopamine Fish

Indeed, the death of Her Majesty will be a world-altering event. She’s been queen for nearly 70 years now. As you say, if the UK didn’t have a plan to handle her death after nearly 70 years as the reigning monarch, something is seriously wrong with them.

Have you seen their plan for a post Brexit world? No one has. I don’t think planning is their strength.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:53:03am

re: #243 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

So I was down to the Post Office yesterday, and looky what I found:

[Embedded content]

Thank you!! Posted this on my FB page — a useful purpose for social media. It can spread information as well as misinformation!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:55:22am

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Ah, jeez.

theguardian.com

The deceased perp had been in NZ for 10 years and was on the radar of the police for the last five years.

Brought a knife to what quickly turned into a gunfight. Well, sucks to be him. I wonder how a desperate terrorist could fall victim to such an oversight? Wouldn’t happen here in Texas, I can tell you that! In fact, an unarmed terrorist could probably procure a gun right at his chosen target venue by picking out the dorkiest looking open-carry patriot and grabbing his.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:55:28am

Teacher in Kentucky.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 8:59:57am

No little eye sticking today—the clinic’s A/C had crapped out overnight and wet the whole place down. (It wasn’t important, just swapping eyedrops for a long-term implant.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:00:40am

re: #257 plansbandc

Why? Because we live in a country filled with profoundly stupid people. And said stupid people are electing other stupid people who make laws that affect all of us.

Don’t completely agree about profoundly stupid; it’s more profoundly evil and racist. Or, as Hillary so memorably said: deplorable!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:01:41am

re: #239 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

I hear there’s a plan to move the state capital to Lubbock and rename it Abbottabad in honor of the head mullah.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:04:13am

re: #270 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

[Embedded content]

I hear there’s a plan to move the state capital to Lubbock and rename it Abbottabad in honor of the head mullah.

And we can mockingly call it Allottabad.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:11:09am

Friday - jellin’ like a felon…and yes, I am holding the Chuck-It above my head…how’d you guess?

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:14:27am

re: #270 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

As much as I’ve called them the American Taliban and similar, the reality is that these are right wing Christofascists. They are Christian extremists. There’s no sense or purpose dragging other religious groups into this when identifying them explicitly as the religious group they are serves the purpose properly.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:15:10am

Also, unstable cliffs are unstable…a bunch of smooshed jellyfish under those rocks.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:18:05am

re: #273 lawhawk

As much as I’ve called them the American Taliban and similar, the reality is that these are right wing Christofascists. They are Christian extremists. There’s no sense or purpose dragging other religious groups into this when identifying them explicitly as the religious group they are serves the purpose properly.

I’ve been sticking with Christian Extremist for a while now. American Taliban is too dismissive and easily ignored as a meaningless jab. Calling them Christian extremists hits home because so many people like to consider themselves Christian because they think it’s publicly acceptable.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:18:40am

re: #275 darthstar

I’ve been sticking with Christian Extremist for a while now. American Taliban is too dismissive and easily ignored as a meaningless jab. Calling them Christian extremists hits home because so many people like to consider themselves Christian because they think it’s publicly acceptable.

Christian nationalists is a good one, that actually made my friends really mad when they heard it (from someone else) for the first time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:19:27am

re: #273 lawhawk

As much as I’ve called them the American Taliban and similar, the reality is that these are right wing Christofascists. They are Christian extremists. There’s no sense or purpose dragging other religious groups into this when identifying them explicitly as the religious group they are serves the purpose properly.

It’s a more effective analogy, though, in explaining who and what they really are. The term “Christofascist” doesn’t resonate with 99% of the public.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:19:30am

Peak Oklahoma:

Doctor describing impact of Ivermectin overdoses on hospital availability:

“The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated,” he said.

kfor.com

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Decatur Deb  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:20:33am

re: #277 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s a more effective analogy, though, in explaining who and what they really are. The term “Christofascist” doesn’t resonate with 99% of the public.

Because most of the public is one or the other.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:23:46am

re: #276 Dopamine Fish

Christian nationalists is a good one, that actually made my friends really mad when they heard it (from someone else) for the first time.

Yep…instant concern, just add any -ist to ‘Christian’ and you get their attention. National-, rac-, extrem-, rap-, even call them Christian Ecumenicalists and they’ll bristle.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:23:51am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:24:41am

A good follow here.

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A Cranky One  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:25:09am

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jaunte  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:27:55am
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Orange Impostor  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:27:56am

re: #273 lawhawk

As much as I’ve called them the American Taliban and similar, the reality is that these are right wing Christofascists. They are Christian extremists. There’s no sense or purpose dragging other religious groups into this when identifying them explicitly as the religious group they are serves the purpose properly.

And to remind everyone, this has been the plan since Day One.

The goal is absolute rule, with any dissenters purged, arrested, or ultimately put to death.

In their own words.

This quote is from 40 years ago, and Grant’s views have become even more extreme over time.

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darthstar  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:30:50am

Aw…facebook memories…Banjo rising from the water at Bean Hollow about 7 years ago.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:35:29am

re: #278 Decatur Deb

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:40:55am

re: #285 Orange Impostor

And to remind everyone, this has been the plan since Day One.

The goal is absolute rule, with any dissenters purged, arrested, or ultimately put to death.

[Embedded content]

This quote is from 40 years ago, and Grant’s views have become even more extreme over time.

Just as our revered founding fathers DIDN’T want to happen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:47:04am

re: #287 lawhawk

I was literally about to make the same observation/joke.

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Citizen K  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:48:03am

re: #288 Eventual Carrion

Just as our revered founding fathers DIDN’T want to happen.

But see, originalism requires that we hew exactly to what the Founding Fathers said, not meant!…or was it the other way around…either way, that’s why unfettered gun ownership with no expectation of knowledge of training is the most sacred of sacred rights, and why things like interracial marriage and women’s privacy are the most pernicious of anti-Americanism ever! God said so! And the founding fathers spoke about God before so they were clearly Christians that wanted a purely Christian nation!! //////////

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:51:50am

Don’t know who this “Tim” fella is, but he must be a real a-hole…..

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:53:10am

re: #291 Dr Lizardo

Don’t know who this “Tim” fella is, but he must be a real a-hole…..

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I heard he was an enchanter. He knows a thing or two about rabbits.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:53:24am

re: #291 Dr Lizardo

Don’t know who this “Tim” fella is, but he must be a real a-hole…..

[Embedded content]

“Typos” everywhere!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:55:23am

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

“Typos” everywhere!!

Or is this a photoshop?

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:57:24am

re: #273 lawhawk

As much as I’ve called them the American Taliban and similar, the reality is that these are right wing Christofascists. They are Christian extremists. There’s no sense or purpose dragging other religious groups into this when identifying them explicitly as the religious group they are serves the purpose properly.

Texiban

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:57:36am

re: #294 Hecuba’s daughter

Or is this a photoshop?

I think the “E” broke off…you can see the little plastic nub sticking to the rest of the board.

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lawhawk  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:59:37am

We’ve learned nothing since Katrina. Nothing. Nursing homes don’t do natural disaster planning particularly well. They do infection control even more poorly.

And every time we point this out, nothing happens, because improved care costs money and someone has to pay for it.

Two nurses who worked inside the Tangipahoa Parish warehouse where more than 800 nursing home residents have now been rescued from squalid conditions say they are haunted by the scenes they witnessed after Hurricane Ida, as elderly people called out for help, the air conditioning quit and toilets overflowed.

Louisiana Department of Health officials announced Thursday that they had opened an investigation after seven nursing homes with 843 residents evacuated to the warehouse in Independence for the storm. Four of the nursing home residents died, while LDH rescued more than 800 of them. Dozens were hospitalized.

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wrenchwench  Sep 3, 2021 • 9:59:42am

re: #291 Dr Lizardo

Don’t know who this “Tim” fella is, but he must be a real a-hole…..

[Embedded content]

I think Tim is a real e-hole, whatever that is.

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Belafon  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:01:59am

re: #291 Dr Lizardo

Don’t know who this “Tim” fella is, but he must be a real a-hole…..

[Embedded content]

He’s Will’s brother, who’s always getting fired at.

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sagehen  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:02:31am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:03:35am

re: #299 Belafon

He’s Will’s brother, who’s always getting fired at.

There’s a character in the video game Overwatch who uses the voice line, “Fire at will!” when she uses her ultimate ability. I’ve been known to call in team comms after the ultimate goes out, “Why? What’d he ever do to you?!”

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:23:10am

Well, I fired at Will, and apparently accidentally hit the thread.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:24:25am

re: #302 Dopamine Fish

Well, I fired at Will, and apparently accidentally hit the thread.

Tis merely a flesh wound.

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Nojay UK  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:29:31am

re: #299 Belafon

He’s Will’s brother, who’s always getting fired at.

Twin brother to Bill Stickers who is always getting prosecuted.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:38:13am

re: #98 Patricia Kayden

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Typical Pre$$titution from The Hill.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 3, 2021 • 10:52:53am

re: #273 lawhawk

As much as I’ve called them the American Taliban and similar, the reality is that these are right wing Christofascists. They are Christian extremists. There’s no sense or purpose dragging other religious groups into this when identifying them explicitly as the religious group they are serves the purpose properly.

Nope. I think it’s a valid analogy and an important one.
Note, first, that there is no religious content to the name “Taliban” (“students, “seekers of knowledge”) in contrast to, say, “Islamic nationalist” or “Islamofascist.” They, the Taliban, are an extreme anti-modern cult that claims a religious warrant. That religion, Islam, includes large bodies of adherents who have nothing to do with this kind of political extremism. The same is true of Christianity.
I think it is important to connect these extremist movements, at least rhetorically, because both are part of a worldwide trend toward extreme reaction against the modern world, and especially against equality and social progress.
It is important to name them accurately in serious discourse, right wing extremists or even fascists, but they can also be mocked as Taliban because there are real points of equivalence that should be emphasized.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 3, 2021 • 11:28:52am

re: #239 A Cranky One

uh, Wendy Davis and Beto warned you folks

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steve_davis  Sep 4, 2021 • 6:38:55am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

I think the “E” broke off…you can see the little plastic nub sticking to the rest of the board.

good eyes! I glanced down at the bottom of the board to see if the letter had fallen.


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