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A Cranky One  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:23:32pm

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:26:31pm

re: #1 A Cranky One

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Repubs assume everybody smarter than them has an agenda. They assume this because they always have an agenda and hate competition.

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ckkatz  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:36:44pm

My brother just sent me an article on Victorian puns. (Seriously). So I thought I would share. (puns, punishment, whichever…)

Here are a ‘few’:

What is the difference between a beehive and a diseased potato?
None at all; as one is a beeholder, the other a speck’d tatur.

What is the best way of making a coat last?
Make the trousers and waistcoat first.

Why is a man who never lays a wager as bad as a regular gambler?
Because he’s no better.

Why should a candle-maker never be pitied?
Because all his works are wicked, and all his wicked works, when brought to light, are only made light of.

From:

30 delightful puns from the Victorian Era
salon.com

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:40:43pm

Great moments in political biology

It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.

Todd Akin (R-MO), US House of Representatives 2001-2013

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gocart mozart  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:42:05pm

What do you know/think of this guy/organization? This is the second time in a year he has followed me. The first time I soft blocked him. Why? Mercenary? WTF?

Matthew VanDyke @Matt_VanDyke
Follows you
Founder, Sons of Liberty International, #veterans providing training + supplies to forces fighting against ISIS/dictators/etc

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gocart mozart  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:43:08pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:46:04pm

Statistician Bill James makes a good case for Dewey in the Hall, my favorite Red Sox player of my yoot.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:46:55pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:49:04pm

re: #6 gocart mozart

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Oh, for God’s sake, my g’g’g’grandfather fought for the Confederacy under Stonewall Jackson. Tear the motherfucking statues down!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:51:27pm

Just a reminder of what side my great great grandfather was on.

Union General Peter Bacon, Commander of the DC Militia:

Great Great Grandfather’s gravestone in the DC Congressional Cemetery

Orders he posted

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gocart mozart  Sep 8, 2021 • 8:52:49pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:03:27pm

re: #6 gocart mozart

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The self-righteous prick then follows up with something even dumber:

“Yeah, my family are newer to these shores than the people I’m berating, but damnit I’m sure the racist pricks who erected these statutes did so for a good reason!!!”

Yegods.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:04:45pm

re: #6 gocart mozart

Having just watched MemoryBox, I am reminded that Robert E. Lee was responsible for far more deaths of Americans and destruction to our nation than Osama bin Laden. We are still suffering the ramifications of that conflict and the failure to come to terms with the evils of slavery.

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gocart mozart  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:06:41pm
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JOE 🥓  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:09:23pm

Just a reminder as to the Republican women in TexASS who voted to destroy Roe.

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sagehen  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:14:17pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Having just watched MemoryBox, I am reminded that Robert E. Lee was responsible for far more deaths of Americans and destruction to our nation than Osama bin Laden. We are still suffering the ramifications of that conflict and the failure to come to terms with the evils of slavery.

But not more than TFG. The death toll for mis-managing Covid is soon to exceed Civil War totals. Lee needed 4 years to kill that many, TFG did it in half the time.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:17:07pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

Amazon+Apple - BUY!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:18:40pm

re: #16 sagehen

But not more than TFG. The death toll for mis-managing Covid is soon to exceed Civil War totals. Lee needed 4 years to kill that many, TFG did it in half the time.

But we have 10 times the population of Civil War America. So as a percentage of population, Lee has killed far more.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:22:16pm

A day without Pulpit Pimp Theater is like a day without Fox News.

In tonight’s episode ol’ Hank The K goes off on those calling him a false prophet because, gosh darn it The Big G hasn’t put Trump back on the throne—Now hank the K has moved the goalposts to 2022…

Not how the asshole Steve Shultz on the left is doing his usual stone face…

Hank Kunneman Says That Questioning His False Election Prophesies Is ‘Grievous to God’

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:26:56pm

re: #3 ckkatz

My brother just sent me an article on Victorian puns. (Seriously). So I thought I would share. (puns, punishment, whichever…)

Here are a ‘few’:

What is the difference between a beehive and a diseased potato?
None at all; as one is a beeholder, the other a speck’d tatur.

What is the best way of making a coat last?
Make the trousers and waistcoat first.

Why is a man who never lays a wager as bad as a regular gambler?
Because he’s no better.

Why should a candle-maker never be pitied?
Because all his works are wicked, and all his wicked works, when brought to light, are only made light of.

From:

30 delightful puns from the Victorian Era
salon.com

Back in the mid-60’s UC Davis got a grant to research whether music made plants “happy”, an unidentified concept, but Au Courant at the time that music resulted positive in growth results in plants (and possibly Humans). Since the agro program, one of the best in the US, was starting to produce some of the best wine growers and vintners in America, they decided to research wine groves, widely spaced, to determine if music affected grape yield.

They combed Napa, Sonoma, and the Russian River Valley for highly praised, productive vineyards. They gained permission from the vineyard owners to set up music broadcast systems to see if different styles of music affected crop yields.

The results were unmistakable. The older the music was (from a baseline around 1600 AD) until the early 20th Century (Ragtime was the last popular music that achieved the highest yields), it began to wane after 1910. Trad Jazz showed a decrease in crop yields. By the time Bepop was played, crop yields dropped to the point where they were before music was played to the plants.

Playing early rock and roll resulted in even worse crops. But the worst losses in the vineyards were noted from the mid-60’s folk-rock time frame, which was the Phil Ochs Era.

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gocart mozart  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:30:22pm

Read the whole thread LOL

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plansbandc  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:31:04pm

USMNT got a huge victory tonight in World Cup qualifying. They’ve been playing not so great football over the last two matches, so this was a huge 3 points.

Phew.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:33:43pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

Read the whole thread LOL

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Otto has seen some nasty shit…since he works for Prager!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:36:36pm

Keith nails it.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:38:24pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Having just watched MemoryBox, I am reminded that Robert E. Lee was responsible for far more deaths of Americans and destruction to our nation than Osama bin Laden. We are still suffering the ramifications of that conflict and the failure to come to terms with the evils of slavery.

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plansbandc  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:44:23pm

re: #24 JOE 🥓

And because that’s the way that party does business, the cruelty trickles down to our day to day existence.

I hate what we’ve become.

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sagehen  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:49:19pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:51:59pm

I missed the initial discussion about Lee downstairs, but I wanted to add my two cents: Lee was a poor general because no matter how good a tactician he was, he totally failed to appreciate the overall strategic picture. And that strategic picture was that so long as Confederate forces were dependent upon foreign aid in order to wage war, they could never support the sustained operations necessary to force the Union to capitulate. Once the blockade began and that foreign aid was cut off, the Confederacy’s days were numbered.

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ckkatz  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:54:23pm

re: #20 austin_blue

Ouch! :)

Interestingly, I had always assumed that it was a fungus. But you motivated me to research it enough to find out that it was actually an insect. So not only did I get a terrible pun (The very best kind!) but I learned something new as well. Thank you!

I bet that these were the same folks that did a project to publicize dried grapes.
They said that it was all about raisin awareness

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:55:33pm

re: #20 austin_blue

Back in the mid-60’s UC Davis got a grant to research whether music made plants “happy”, an unidentified concept, but Au Courant at the time that music resulted positive in growth results in plants (and possibly Humans). Since the agro program, one of the best in the US, was starting to produce some of the best wine growers and vintners in America, they decided to research wine groves, widely spaced, to determine if music affected grape yield.

They combed Napa, Sonoma, and the Russian River Valley for highly praised, productive vineyards. They gained permission from the vineyard owners to set up music broadcast systems to see if different styles of music affected crop yields.

The results were unmistakable. The older the music was (from a baseline around 1600 AD) until the early 20th Century (Ragtime was the last popular music that achieved the highest yields), it began to wane after 1910. Trad Jazz showed a decrease in crop yields. By the time Bepop was played, crop yields dropped to the point where they were before music was played to the plants.

Playing early rock and roll resulted in even worse crops. But the worst losses in the vineyards were noted from the mid-60’s folk-rock time frame, which was the Phil Ochs Era.

I’m not going to get a lot of traction out of this, am I?

Damn shame, it’s great shaggy dog, and I thought I set it up pretty well.

en.wikipedia.org

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:57:38pm

The Confederacy defenders are still at it:

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ckkatz  Sep 8, 2021 • 9:59:08pm

re: #30 austin_blue

I thought that you did. But perhaps the history of viticulture is not well enough known.

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ckkatz  Sep 8, 2021 • 10:05:03pm

And time to head to bed.

So one more Dad joke for the road:

What do you call your average ancient Greek?
Mediocrates.

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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2021 • 10:08:28pm

I a!ways like a nice visual aid.

Los Angeles County prosecutors on Wednesday likened Robert Durst’s testimony in his murder trial to cockroach soup, displaying a photograph of a bowl full of bugs in court to suggest all his testimony should be discarded.

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William Lewis  Sep 8, 2021 • 10:08:44pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

I missed the initial discussion about Lee downstairs, but I wanted to add my two cents: Lee was a poor general because no matter how good a tactician he was, he totally failed to appreciate the overall strategic picture. And that strategic picture was that so long as Confederate forces were dependent upon foreign aid in order to wage war, they could never support the sustained operations necessary to force the Union to capitulate. Once the blockade began and that foreign aid was cut off, the Confederacy’s days were numbered.

From day one to the end of the War, the greatest General in American history had the right idea: The Anaconda Plan of LtGen Winfield Scott.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2021 • 10:15:23pm

re: #29 ckkatz

Ouch! :)

Interestingly, I had always assumed that it was a fungus. But you motivated me to research it enough to find out that it was actually an insect. So not only did I get a terrible pun (The very best kind!) but I learned something new as well. Thank you!

I bet that these were the same folks that did a project to publicize dried grapes.
They said that it was all about raisin awareness

Oof! I love you, man. Not that way, heh heh, but, you know, a BroMance and a double back punch. With a mask on. And a Moderna booster, which may not even be necessary until we get the latest double blind testing done.

It looks like initial research says the Pfizer vaccines are sucky in fighting the Delta in a straight-up Mano-a-Mano cage fight vis a vis the Moderna mRNA jab.

Wake the fuck up, folks, because this is very fucking important, if true:

What did Moderna do that Pfizer didn’t?

If one mRNA vaccine is demonstrably better than the other, should we shut Pfizer down and give Moderna a gazillion dollars to produce 12 billion doses?

The short answer may very well be Hell Yes.

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2021 • 10:21:46pm

re: #31 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Confederacy defenders are still at it:

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What about those statements is wrong?

Well, to start with, there was nothing in the Constitution that allowed states to just decide they didn’t want to be part of the Union anymore and leave of their own free will. But even if you accept that the states could secede of their own free will, in no conceivable universe is firing upon Union forces that are not posing a direct threat anything other than an act of war.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 8, 2021 • 10:24:41pm

re: #36 austin_blue

Even if Moderna was significantly better against one variant, that doesn’t mean it will be better against the next one. (Also, they all seem to be preventing serious disease.) Best to keep multiple types of vaccine going for a while longer, I’d say.

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austin_blue  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:03:33pm

Well, I have apparently killed the thread.

I am so damned sorry (pulls forelock, weeps). I will see you tomorrow.

*sob*

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A Cranky One  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:09:22pm

Now now. Don’t be sad. Here

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:09:22pm

re: #39 austin_blue

Well, I have apparently killed the thread.

I am so damned sorry (pulls forelock, weeps). I will see you tomorrow.

*sob*

Monty Python - “Not Dead Yet” Scene (HD)

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A Cranky One  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:18:17pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:28:56pm

And another wingnut family tries to force a hospital to administer Ivermectin.

They claim the Veterans Administration prescribed the drug before the VA transferred him to a Houston-area hospital.

He died during the court proceedings, after a Fort Bend, Texas judge ordered the hospital to give him the Ivermectin. The family is now claiming the hospital never did.

The VA has no comment citing the Privacy Act. The hospital has no comment citing ongoing litigation.

COVID patient dies at Memorial Hermann during family’s legal push for ivermectin treatment (Houston Chronicle)

Wingnuts are going to make this a new time-wasting thing for hospitals now, aren’t they?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:35:42pm

The lava not flowing anymore, the cone is cooling, outgassing and crumbling.

But this drone shot shows where the last of the lava flow, to the northwest of the cone, was so voluminous and low viscosity it formed a lake which now, cooling (and also outgassing), has a smooth top, and piles of former basalt now stand as little islands in the lake looking like beaver dens:

THEATER HILL SURVIVES THE VOLCANO, BARELY…Air 2S 4K Flight #2/3 07.09.21

..

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piratedan  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:38:32pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I really can’t say that I am surprised….

lets look at the track record so far….

The Evangelical Christians and the Racist Right have thus far

Destroyed Christianity…. it’s as if religious tolerance was just an awkward phase, never to be discussed again. So much for the lessons of the New Testament as a means by which to live your life.

Destroyed Journalism - so much for the story being informative and truthful, yet neutral to present both positions but to also acknowledge what were facts and what were opinions. Now, it’s lies of omission, non-disclosure of biases and false equivalences and facts sans context.

Destroyed Politics - used to be the matter of compromise, working towards a common good, perhaps not at a fast pace, but progress being the arc that history was bent upon.

now they’re on their way to tearing down Medicine and Education by conflating their desire to have only their position acknowledged as the only one with merit. Destroying public health in the name of “freedom” to be a disease vector. To keep their kids from learning that the US hasn’t always done the right thing or the best thing and to say otherwise means that you’re unpatriotic.

any kind of forum for any kind of discourse is ruined by these people, the ones that use their money to corrupt the process and to promote shouty monsters to shout down any dialogue that needs to take place.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:39:03pm

Tropical Storm Mindy is now crossing into Georgia with 40 mph winds.

Part of the Tropical Storm Warning on the Florida coast has been dropped.

Tropical storm warnings remain in effect for Hurricane Larry.

SUMMARY OF 200 AM AST…0600 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…30.3N 60.8W
ABOUT 275 MI…440 KM ESE OF BERMUDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…100 MPH…155 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NNW OR 330 DEGREES AT 16 MPH…26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…969 MB…28.62 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
——————————
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

The Canadian Hurricane Centre has issued a Hurricane Watch for
southeastern Newfoundland from St. Schotts northward to Pouch Cove.
A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued from Lamaline to west of St.
Schotts and from north of Pouch Cove to Bonavista

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:52:43pm

re: #45 piratedan

Speaking of that:

Teen sentenced to 20 years in prison for Ethan Hauschultz homicide (WBAY-TV, Green Bay)

MANITOWOC COUNTY, Wis. (WBAY) - A Mishicot teen has been sentenced to two decades behind bars for the 2018 death of seven-year-old Ethan Hauschultz.

On Sept. 2, a Manitowoc County judge sentenced Damian Hauschultz, 17, to 20 years in state prison and 10 years on extended supervision.

Damian Hauschultz had pleaded guilty to 1st Degree Reckless Homicide. As part of a plea agreement, three counts of Child Abuse-Intentionally Cause Harm and three counts of Substantial Battery-Intend Bodily Harm were dismissed but read into the record.

What he did?

Criminal complaints filed in the case state Ethan was hit, kicked, poked, repeatedly shoved to the ground, and a heavy log was rolled across his chest by Damian Hauschultz, who was 14 at the time. The older boy “stood on (Ethan’s) body and head while Ethan was face-down in a puddle. He ultimately buried Ethan completely in snow,” reads the criminal complaint.

The Milwaukee County Medical Examiner’s Office determined Ethan died from hypothermia and blunt force injuries to his head, chest and abdomen.

Ethan and his siblings were put in the Hauschultz’s care in 2017. The siblings told investigators Timothy Hauschultz frequently punished them by making them walk laps around the yard carrying heavy logs, which he picks out. The siblings said that week they were required to carry wood every day for two hours a day for not knowing their Bible verses.

(more)

And that’s why a seven year-old had to die. Because he didn’t memorise Bible verses.

The state only requested twelve years, but the judge made it twenty. The three counts of child abuse were for the other two younger children he didn’t kill.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:58:30pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The parents aren’t off the hook either. The mother was sentenced to five years in prison for failure to prevent mental harm to a child, and child abuse failure to prevent great harm.

The father is awaiting trial for murder, child abuse, battery, and contributing to the delinquency of a minor resulting in death.

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2021 • 11:59:23pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And another wingnut family tries to force a hospital to administer Ivermectin.

They claim the Veterans Administration prescribed the drug before the VA transferred him to a Houston-area hospital.

He died during the court proceedings, after a Fort Bend, Texas judge ordered the hospital to give him the Ivermectin. The family is now claiming the hospital never did.

The VA has no comment citing the Privacy Act. The hospital has no comment citing ongoing litigation.

COVID patient dies at Memorial Hermann during family’s legal push for ivermectin treatment (Houston Chronicle)

Wingnuts are going to make this a new time-wasting thing for hospitals now, aren’t they?

This bit immediately jumped out at me:

In early August, Lopez visited his primary care doctor at Houston’s VA Medical Center, where he tested positive for COVID and was prescribed ivermectin and other antibiotics, Snider said.

Which was followed further down by this:

The drug has also led to severe illness in some people who ingest it to treat the virus, according to the FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Outpatient ivermectin prescriptions have seen a rapid increase nationwide since mid-July, with a simultaneous increase in calls to poison control centers about ivermectin exposure, the CDC reports.

Assuming his doc at the VA actually did scrawl out that script, it reads like a “Go away” measure. As in “Take these as directed, if you don’t feel better than come back and we’ll go from there.” The sort of shit given to asshole patients who don’t want to hear a doc tell them to just get plenty of rest and allow time to recuperate and demand they “DO SOMETHING!” to speed up the recovery process. So they get a pill bottle full of antibiotics that ain’t going to do anything for a viral infection and another of lice killer whose dosage plan got ignored in favor of the same internet crankery that inspired the patient to seek them out in the first place.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:04:43am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:05:55am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:06:05am

re: #49 Targetpractice

Looking at the VA FAQ about Covid-19, there is no mention anywhere on that page about Ivermectin.

Is there a cure or any FDA-approved treatments for COVID-19?

There is no cure for COVID-19 at this time. There are treatments for COVID-19, but the risk of severe illness and death are still high in certain groups of people. And the CDC reports that some of the treatments we use to treat COVID-19 may not work as well against the new form of the coronavirus known as the “Delta variant.”

Talk to your health care provider before taking any medications to prevent or treat COVID-19.

If you have questions about a treatment, call or send a secure message to your VA provider.

va.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:09:48am

re: #51 Dread Pirate Ron

The Republican genocide continues.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:11:24am

Libertarians gotta derp:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:14:28am

thread

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:15:01am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Throwing eggs - or rotten fruit - is a long-standing political tradition, not just in the US but worldwide. I’ve seen it done here in Czech Republic and other European countries, albeit rarely.

If a person is running for office, well….it goes with the territory, doesn’t it? As long as it’s not bullets flying, or genuinely dangerous objects/projectiles, I’ll let it pass.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:15:26am

Think the $64K question I have now is why, if he went to the VA to get checked out, didn’t he go back to there the very next day after his symptoms had gotten worse? IMHO, he didn’t go back because the same doctor he badgered into giving him that script told him if his symptoms worsened, he’d be admitted for treatment and he didn’t want that. So he went home with his dewormer and his placebo antibiotics figuring he’d be good after a few days, only the cough didn’t go away and actually got worse as the night went on. Next morning, he gets taken to the local ER figuring they’ll just patch him up and send him home, and instead he’s in a bed under the care of doctors who refuse to give him his pills in the same way they’d refuse to give any other patient whatever snake oil they had a “prescription” for. Probably called over to the VA to get the full story, only to find out the stubborn asshole had been advised he’d get admitted if he came back and so he was deliberately avoiding getting adequate care in favor of quack “cures.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:18:42am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Republican genocide continues.

It appears deaths are still disproportionately affecting people of color — and so these GOP governors are fine with losing some of their supporters if more of our side perishes due to their malevolence and desire to harm the Biden administration.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:24:11am

re: #55 Dread Pirate Ron

americans who live in rural areas are perpetually put upon and put down. you don’t get elected in this country by making fun of the rubes,

he says as he makes fun of people living in rural areas.

While my point is only anecdotal, I once again bring up only two people in my town do not have college degrees.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:26:31am

re: #57 Targetpractice

That assumes that he actually got a prescription for Ivermectin from the VA.

Working on the principle of “all conservatives lie unless proven otherwise,” I’m going to wait on this one.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:29:10am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

Throwing eggs - or rotten fruit - is a long-standing political tradition, not just in the US but worldwide. I’ve seen it done here in Czech Republic and other European countries, albeit rarely.

If a person is running for office, well….it goes with the territory, doesn’t it? As long as it’s not bullets flying, or genuinely dangerous objects/projectiles, I’ll let it pass.

Apparently the person who did it was a person wearing a gorilla mask riding a bicycle. Cue the cries from the right wingers on the liberal racists. (No indication the person is a liberal.)

As for what Larry Elder was doing, he was touring a homeless camp in Venice and using the homeless as a photo op, while the people there were all booing him.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:30:04am

re: #14 gocart mozart

Whoa…that was a heavy one. Poor woman.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:30:28am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That assumes that he actually got a prescription for Ivermectin from the VA.

Working on the principle of “all conservatives lie unless proven otherwise,” I’m going to wait on this one.

True, but I’m mostly gaming this out based upon the assumption that humans are human and the truth lies somewhere in the middle between total fabrication and absolute truth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:32:22am

re: #2 Targetpractice

Repubs assume everybody smarter than them has an agenda. They assume this because they always have an agenda and hate competition.

This is why they don’t trust the vaccine as it is the product of an elitist Deep-State/Soros agenda while Invermectin is just good ol’ horse-doctor medicine that any farmer can trust.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:32:40am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Apparently the person who did it was a person wearing a gorilla mask riding a bicycle. Cue the cries from the right wingers on the liberal racists. (No indication the person is a liberal.)

As for what Larry Elder was doing, he was touring a homeless camp in Venice and using the homeless as a photo op, while the people there were all booing him.

Let me guess, he’s promising to “Clean up” the homeless problem without giving specifics like “Providing housing” or “Financial assistance,” leaving the more likely answer to be “Make being homeless a crime so we can help make the private prison system even wealthier.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:33:18am

re: #3 ckkatz

Why do knives and pig’s tails have in common?

They are both flourished over hams!

(my spouse nearly burst her corset laughing at that one)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:35:07am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why do knives and pig’s tails have in common?

They are both flourished over hams!

(my spouse nearly burst her corset laughing at that one)

Wait, your wife wears a corset?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:37:43am

re: #40 A Cranky One

Payson Arizona used to have Pedro Wong’s, a Mexican/Chinese drive-in restaurant run by a fellow who was himself of Mexican-Chinese descent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:41:40am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wait, your wife wears a corset?

Laced up tight…

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:42:20am

So in another example of how MAGAts secretly love recycling, I’m now seeing them push the same HCQ quackery from last year about how the FDA “knows” that Ivermectin is a wonder drug/miracle cure that would totally have ended the pandemic yesterday, BUT they refused to approve it as a treatment for COVID because (wait for it) that would mean Big Pharma would never have been able to get EUAs for their vaccines. You all might remember that this was often the argument for HCQ last year, that they were so “cheap” and “generic” that Big Pharma would never be able to make money off the billions of pills needed to address a worldwide pandemic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:45:30am

In a novel argument, a gay man has won a case against a Catholic school in Charlotte, NC which fired him.

friendlyatheist.patheos.com

The school argued he was “advocating” against the Catholic Church, by announcing his upcoming marriage on Facebook. The Church admits that it would not be “advocacy” if it was an opposite-sex marriage.

As such, he filed a lawsuit against the school under Title VII alleging sex discrimination (they treated him as a man differently than if he’d been a woman).

The court agreed. The case will now go to an award for damages.

The law permits churches to discriminate based on their religion, but only in religious positions. He is a drama and English teacher. The school’s policies specifically note that non-religious subject teachers are prohibited from counselling students on religious matters. Moreover, the school actively seeks out non-Catholics to teach non-religious subjects.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:50:05am

Making progress every week.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 12:56:02am

Only thing funnier than the recycling of HCQ quackery is the attacks by anti-vaxxers on that Ivermectin study saying men experience sterility. Their attacks on it?

- It’s a single study (HA!)
- It’s got flawed methodology (HAHA!)
- It was only seen to cause sterility in those taking it long-term (HAHAHA!)

For the crowd not only pushing Ivermectin as a COVID “cure” based upon a handful of studies with inconclusive results and flawed methodology, but pushing it as a prophylactic to be taken daily for however long COVID remains a public health issue, the irony meter is…well…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:07:50am

re: #73 Targetpractice

They are as selective with scientific results as they are with Bible verses…

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:16:59am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are as selective with scientific results as they are with Bible verses…

Ayep. They’re screaming it’s FDA approved and it is…for treatment of parasitic worms. And the FDA approved it for dosages way lower than the ones that (allegedly) have anti-viral effects, with the common dosage being 1 tablet every 3-12 months. Meanwhile, these yahoos are pushing for the pills to be taken daily at dosages way above the FDA approved level, much as they did with HCQ back when it was all the rage based upon a single study calling for it to be prescribed with zinc at levels way above what the FDA considered safe for humans.

This goes along with their efforts to try to overcome the negative (but accurate) stereotype that ivermectin is a horse dewormer by leaning hard on that same FDA approval, ignoring that so many of the yahoos they’re pimping this quackery to are going down to the local Feed & Seed to grab up ivermectin paste because it’s either A) cheaper than visiting a doc or B) easier to get to than shopping around for those few doctors willing to write out a script to a patient they know is likely to be right back in there with failing livers, blindness, or shitty drawers.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:26:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:27:15am

re: #75 Targetpractice

Ayep. They’re screaming it’s FDA approved and it is…for treatment of parasitic worms.

It is now an article and outward sign of faith and membership in the Cult of the Rugged Individualist.

No arguments are going to budge them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:31:07am

re: #76 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s all we need is a Mu variant of a Delta lineage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:31:45am

re: #78 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s all we need is a Mu variant of a Delta lineage.

The Omega Variant will be with us by year’s end…

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:33:46am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Omega Variant will be with us by year’s end…

Somewhere in LA, Col. Robert Neville just felt a chill go down his spine.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:43:51am

re: #80 Targetpractice

Somewhere in LA, Col. Robert Neville just felt a chill go down his spine.

//

joking aside, I am increasingly worried that we will wind up chasing our tails trying to prevent the spread of a news, highly virulent and deadly variant that is resistant to our vaccines.

Aided by a mass of toxic, virulent deniers.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:48:19am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is now an article and outward sign of faith and membership in the Cult of the Rugged Individualist.

No arguments are going to budge them.

It’s like I’ve said before, the sort of morons buying into this shit are the same ones who get snookered by late-night infomercials for “Super Beet” gummies and “Green Power” smoothies, the ones who are overweight and smoke like a chimney but insist they’re “perfectly healthy” because they’re guzzling some “wonder food” each morning before gorging on fast food and sodas. The ones who will buy a bottle of baby asprin because their doc advises them to take it to avoid heart issues, but ignore the same advice to cut back their cholesterol intake or give up smoking because “I feel fine.” These are the sorts of folks who latch on “miracle cures,” because they don’t want to prevent health issues, they just want a “Get Out of Jail Free” card for bad behavior.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:51:18am

re: #82 Targetpractice

That is a key aspect. Eat less and exercise more? Naw, this superfood will change that!

But there is the matter of ideology and group identification added to that attitude. Distrust of educated elites and the Big State and Big Media, Big Tech, Big Finance and Big Pharma, etc…all bugaboos that they fear because they have no fucking clue how things work.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 1:57:50am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a key aspect. Eat less and exercise more? Naw, this superfood will change that!

But there is the matter of ideology and group identification added to that attitude. Distrust of educated elites and the Big State and Big Media, Big Tech, Big Finance and Big Pharma, etc…all bugaboos that they fear because they have no fucking clue how things work.

Hence why most of those “superfood” ads rely largely upon selling their marks on the idea that the reason they’ve never heard of it or they doctor isn’t pushing it is because Big Pharma just wants to push pills to make lots of money. But you, a totally sensible, salt-of-the-Earth fellow can see through all that and understand that sometimes the best answers are found in expensively processed “natural” foods. Why go through the trouble of acquiring these foods yourself and suffer the hassle of getting those “miracle” aspects of them when you can just buy a bottle of gummies to pop in your mouth every day? Just send us your money and we’ll send you the “cure” that the “experts” don’t want you to know about.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:00:36am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Hence why most of those “superfood” ads rely largely upon selling their marks on the idea that the reason they’ve never heard of it or they doctor isn’t pushing it is because Big Pharma just wants to push pills to make lots of money.

WATCH THIS VIDEO BEFORE IT’S TAKEN DOWN!!!!

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:03:42am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

WATCH THIS VIDEO BEFORE IT’S TAKEN DOWN!!!!

Think the only thing funnier is that so many of these same morons, the ones who will readily buy into the idea that that “miracle cure” comes from ordinary products or foods…are the same ones who sneer at anything labeled “organic” and think it’s all a scam by Big Agra to get more money from “health food nuts.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:08:34am

re: #72 Dread Pirate Ron

Here in San Diego county were are at 76.1% fully vaccinated (12+) and 86.5% with at least one shot.

We’re doing pretty good for being the 5th most populous county in the US.

And I suspect (strongly) we’re doing far far better than the 4 counties more populous than us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:14:38am

re: #86 Targetpractice

Think the only thing funnier is that so many of these same morons, the ones who will readily buy into the idea that that “miracle cure” comes from ordinary products or foods…are the same ones who sneer at anything labeled “organic” and think it’s all a scam by Big Agra to get more money from “health food nuts.”

There’s “organic”, which is newfangled and hippie, but then there’s “good ol’ down-home Granny’s recipe”, which is fine…

Go figure.

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:20:29am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There’s “organic”, which is newfangled and hippie, but then there’s “good ol’ down-home Granny’s recipe”, which is fine…

Go figure.

“Why buy organic foods and cook them yourself when you can pop this frozen dinner in the oven that tastes just like the pot pies your mama used to make?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:23:59am

re: #89 Targetpractice

“Why buy organic foods and cook them yourself when you can pop this frozen dinner in the oven that tastes just like the pot pies your mama used to make?”

My mom had raised five siblings before I came along, I was the last by 11 years. She was fine with anything quick or convenient at that point, although she did do a lot of cooking for holidays, especially Easter.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:29:10am

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:35:20am
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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:35:58am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My mom had raised five siblings before I came along, I was the last by 11 years. She was fine with anything quick or convenient at that point, although she did do a lot of cooking for holidays, especially Easter.

My sister and I grew up as latchkey kids to a pair of enlisted sailors, so the question of whether that night would be a home-cooked meal or frozen food largely depended upon how tired mom was when she got home. For awhile when we were living in Florida, Fridays meant a pizza and movie rentals as a semi-reward for just getting through the week alive.

On the other hand, my grandmother is a Southern woman who raised six kids largely on her own while also holding down a full-time job, so I remember staying with her in the summer getting a lot more country cooking than I did frozen or fast food. And cooking up huge spreads on holidays for the entire family to get together.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:44:08am

re: #93 Targetpractice

On the other hand, my grandmother is a Southern woman who raised six kids largely on her own while also holding down a full-time job

We’re expecting a major book from you that will help us understand the Economic Anxiety of Trump Voter and why we shouldn’t look down on them.

And a political career awaits you as well…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:47:03am

re: #28 Targetpractice

I missed the initial discussion about Lee downstairs, but I wanted to add my two cents: Lee was a poor general because no matter how good a tactician he was, he totally failed to appreciate the overall strategic picture. And that strategic picture was that so long as Confederate forces were dependent upon foreign aid in order to wage war, they could never support the sustained operations necessary to force the Union to capitulate. Once the blockade began and that foreign aid was cut off, the Confederacy’s days were numbered.

What foreign aid did they get? I’ve not heard this before?

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:47:33am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We’re expecting a major book from you that will help us understand the Economic Anxiety of Trump Voter and why we shouldn’t look down on them.

And a political career awaits you as well…

What, is Pete Thiel hiring again?

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:49:04am

re: #95 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What foreign aid did they get? I’ve not heard this before?

Not “foreign aid” in the modern sense, but aid from abroad in the form of weapons and supplies (which they had to purchase). They had limited means to produce their own and no way, for example, to replace damage rail lines or locomotives.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:53:36am

re: #95 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What foreign aid did they get? I’ve not heard this before?

I think this is referring to two things:
1. Hopes for recognition as a full-fledged nation/belligerent by European powers (primarily France and England).

2. Purchasing of additional military supplies in Europe using cotton and bringing them back for use. (This got messed up by the blockade. And early on before the blockade got established with any degree of efficiency the CSA opted to not ship out cotton based on the concept that if they did not ship out cotton that would put economic pressure on the European industries that used it to intervene in the CSA’s favor. Which wildly overestimated the strength of “King Cotton” and the industries in Europe looked to substitute cotton crops (Egyptian and Indian IIRC.)

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Targetpractice  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:54:46am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not “foreign aid” in the modern sense, but aid from abroad in the form of weapons and supplies (which they had to purchase). They had limited means to produce their own and no way, for example, to replace damage rail lines or locomotives.

Right, the Confederacy was dependent largely upon foreign sources of munitions and food imports from Europe that they could no longer acquire from the Union, even acquiring warships that could not be built in the South, when the US government at the time was applying pressure on the governments of those nations to restrict or even block access to the Confederacy.

It didn’t help matters that the Confederacy was not only foolish enough to believe that Britain and France would intervene militarily to avoid losing access to Southern cotton, but then their own damned farmers and plantation owners imposed an embargo in 1861 at the time when the Confederate government most desperately needed money.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 2:56:01am

re: #38 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Even if Moderna was significantly better against one variant, that doesn’t mean it will be better against the next one. (Also, they all seem to be preventing serious disease.) Best to keep multiple types of vaccine going for a while longer, I’d say.

I was hoping my second dose was going to be Moderna (I got two Pfizer doses) because I always thought the combination would have been stronger. Truth be told, I always wanted the Moderna jabs to start with but I didn’t really have a choice and I was all like STICK ME NOW WITH ANYTHING.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:07:20am

re: #99 Targetpractice

By 1862, only one year in to its existence, the CSA’s economy was badly straining. A complete self-own that played a part in consigning them to oblivion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:11:23am

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

By 1862, only one year in to its existence, the CSA’s economy was badly straining. A complete self-own that played a part in consigning them to oblivion.

And while there were warehouses in Atlanta filled with badly-needed weapons and uniforms, the State of Georgia was not about to share them with soldiers from other Confederate States.

Which is why I pay no attention to all those “What if the Confederacy had won the Civil War?” scenarios: it likely would have fallen apart into individual, mutually hostile “countries” or factions shortly thereafter.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:25:31am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And while there were warehouses in Atlanta filled with badly-needed weapons and uniforms, the State of Georgia was not about to share them with soldiers from other Confederate States.

Which is why I pay no attention to all those “What if the Confederacy had won the Civil War?” scenarios: it likely would have fallen apart into individual, mutually hostile “countries” or factions shortly thereafter.

A slave-holding, agrarian, North American Balkans. With little ability to industrialize and a hostile power* sitting to the north of it with a long border and probably quite happy to outright agitate the South’s slave population at this point including being an outright refuge for escapees since the Fugitive Slave Acts will go right out the window.

* - Assuming there is not further splitting of the North. There has been some theory that the Midwest might feel that trade down the Mississippi would be more important to them than trade with the Northeast. I feel that this is a longshot since the Northeast and not the South was their main source for industrial goods and you’d see the canals and railroads develop further/faster to move those products east.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:32:25am

Meanwhile, maybe China is about to experience their own home-grown version of the 2007/2008 financial crisis….

Shares in the embattled Chinese property giant Evergrande have slumped again after two credit downgrades in two days amid concerns that it will default on parts of its massive $300bn debt pile.

Evergrande, which is one of the world’s most indebted companies, has seen its shares tumble 75% this year. They fell by almost 10% on Thursday morning to HK$3.35, which is below the listing price when the company floated on the Hong Kong market in 2009.

Trading in one of the company’s bonds was suspended by the Shenzhen stock exchange on Thursday morning after the price plunged 20%.

The online market trading platform IG said Evergrande posed “a risk of contagion” after Bloomberg reported that Credit Suisse and Citibank were no longer accepting the bonds of another highly indebted Chinese property developer, Fantasia, as collateral.

theguardian.com

Why You Should Be Worried About China’s Debt Crisis

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William Lewis  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:33:53am

re: #103 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Had the CSA survived with control of the lower Mississippi, they would have doubtless had tolls and tariffs on river traffic. Trains and canals via Chicago & Pittsburg from points west to NYC would have been laughing all the way to the bank.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:35:18am

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

It’ll be interesting to see if Chinese President Xi Jinping views Evergrande as “too big to fail” or whether he’ll just let it go the way of Lehman Brothers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:37:03am

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

It’ll be interesting to see if Chinese President Xi Jinping views Evergrande as “too big to fail” or whether he’ll just let it go the way of Lehman Brothers.

If your company is going to accept a government bailout, it has to be prepared to accept government rules and restrictions on your business.

That was the problem with US companies after 2008: they wanted to be able to move back into their parent’s basement but not be told how late they could stay up or what friends they could have over…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:40:12am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If your company is going to accept a government bailout, it has to be prepared to accept government rules and restrictions on your business.

That was the problem with US companies after 2008: they wanted to be able to move back into their parent’s basement but not be told how late they could stay up or what friends they could have over…

Yep. The lender - in this case, a government - is going to be calling the shots. End of story.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:43:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:48:24am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I should’ve added that most likely, the big players have already bailed and the only person I have any sympathy for (naturally, aside from your average Joe who could lose their job) is the hapless, unlucky devil that everyone points to once the shit hits the fan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:57:51am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

Like the Enron bosses who cashed out before share prices collapsed but prevented their company’s pension fund from doing the same?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 3:59:14am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like the Enron bosses who cashed out before share prices collapsed but prevented their company’s pension fund from doing the same?

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Evergrande’s honchos have already cashed out and left everyone else holding the bag - much like Enron’s honchos did.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:01:57am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Evergrande’s honchos have already cashed out and left everyone else holding the bag - much like Enron’s honchos did.

If they are as friendly with Xi as Kenny Boy was with Dubya, then they likely have…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:23:03am

re: #109 Patricia Kayden

If I got to ask German politicians one question at the moment it would be:
What have you done and what are you going to do to increase #covid19 vaccine uptake?
It’s one of the most pressing issues right now and Germany is doing badly. Shocking how little we are taking about this.

Germans have their Querdenker and freie Reichsbürger, while the nationalist-populist AfD party commands a solid 10-12% of the vote, predominantly in the East.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:41:57am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:43:09am

re: #115 Teukka

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:47:25am

re: #115 Teukka

SAP Employee Janene Hoskovec Fired After Intentionally Coughing on Shoppers at Nebraska Grocery Store

what sort of sociopathy is behind behavior like this?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:47:39am

re: #32 ckkatz

I thought that you did. But perhaps the history of viticulture is not well enough known.

Agree, will done; I also thought it was a fungus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:49:50am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

SAP Employee Janene Hoskovec Fired After Intentionally Coughing on Shoppers at Nebraska Grocery Store

what sort of sociopathy is behind behavior like this?

Conservatism.

Pity me out here in the far west of the state.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:50:13am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:50:29am

re: #118 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Agree, will done; I also thought it was a fungus.

Eiswein, Baby

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:51:03am

re: #73 Targetpractice

Only thing funnier than the recycling of HCQ quackery is the attacks by anti-vaxxers on that Ivermectin study saying men experience sterility. Their attacks on it?

- It’s a single study (HA!)
- It’s got flawed methodology (HAHA!)
- It was only seen to cause sterility in those taking it long-term (HAHAHA!)

For the crowd not only pushing Ivermectin as a COVID “cure” based upon a handful of studies with inconclusive results and flawed methodology, but pushing it as a prophylactic to be taken daily for however long COVID remains a public health issue, the irony meter is…well…

[Embedded content]

This is what the Swedish medical info system (LIF/FASS) has to say about Ivermectin tablets:
“Djurstudier har visat reproduktionstoxikologiska effekter” … “Ivermektin ska endast användas under graviditet då det är strikt indicerat.” which Swedish for
“Animal studies have shown reproductive toxicological effects” … “Ivermectin should be used during pregnancy only when strictly indicated.”
Which I believe is medicalese for “use only when you have to, or as a medication of last resort.”
The entry (from the medical professional section of the database) is dated 2019-10-31.
When I look at the preclinical section it says birth defects such as cleft lip and cleft palate, however no carcinogen or genetic toxicity. Preclinical meaning that a company discovered the effects while crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s for getting a drug to market.
They even discourage pregnant women or women who want to become pregnant from using the topical cream.
And even if the Nigerian study leaves much to be desired, the dose is below the maximum approved dose of 200µg/kg (@ 150µg/kg), meaning the effects begin early.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:52:10am

re: #122 Teukka

This is what the Swedish medical info system (LIF/FASS) has to say about Ivermectin tablets:
“Djurstudier har visat reproduktionstoxikologiska effekter” … “Ivermektin ska endast användas under graviditet då det är strikt indicerat.” which Swedish for
“Animal studies have shown reproductive toxicological effects” … “Ivermectin should be used during pregnancy only when strictly indicated.”
Which I believe is medicalese for “use only when you have to, or as a medication of last resort.”
The entry (from the medical professional section of the database) is dated 2019-10-31.
When I look at the preclinical section it says birth defects such as cleft lip and cleft palate, however no carcinogen or genetic toxicity. Preclinical meaning that a company discovered the effects while crossing the t’s and dotting the i’s for getting a drug to market.
They even discourage pregnant women or women who want to become pregnant from using the topical cream.
And even if the Nigerian study leaves much to be desired, the dose is below the maximum approved dose of 200µg/kg (@ 150µg/kg), meaning the effects begin early.

Oh, and if it isn’t clear, caution with Ivermectin with regards to reproduction appears well justified…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:53:02am

Rightwing Lawyers Won’t Let California Schools Teach Aztec Human Sacrifice Rituals To Kids :( (Wonkette)

If you guessed by that headline that, yet again, conservatives, and Christians (in this case the Catholic Thomas More Society) are lying, you get no prize.

They have to prove they are not lying. I don’t make the rules.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:55:26am

My wife is watching some Danish TV miniseries with English subtitles, about mysterious kidnappers who appear to be some sort of special forces, and the Danish intelligence services figuring out who they are before something terrible happens to the hostages.

(Espionage/police dramas don’t really appeal to me.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:56:07am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife is watching some Danish TV miniseries with English subtitles, about mysterious kidnappers who appear to be some sort of special forces, and the Dutch intelligence services figuring out who they are before something terrible happens to the hostages.

(Espionage/police dramas don’t really appeal to me.)

only in exceptional cases.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 4:56:57am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Rightwing Lawyers Won’t Let California Schools Teach Aztec Human Sacrifice Rituals To Kids :( (Wonkette)

They believe in mumbo-jumbo and the Power of Human Sacrifice, which is why they are touchy about allowing airtime for competing modes of mumbo-jumbo

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:02:54am

Florida now copying the Nebraska model. Soon they too can have “The Good Life.”

(Tampa Bay Times Editorial Board)

Why is Florida so secretive with COVID records? | Editorial

COVID statistics that used to be available are now off limits, says the state Dept. of Health.

Aside from mismanaging the pandemic, Florida officials have also concealed a true picture of the growing crisis. That’s why a lawsuit filed against the state last week is so critical.

A Democratic state lawmaker and a non-profit group allege the Department of Health has violated public-records laws by refusing to provide detailed data about COVID-19 in Florida. Orlando Rep. Carlos Guillermo Smith and the Florida Center for Government Accountability filed the lawsuit last Monday after the department denied requests for information. As the outbreak worsened, and schools began to open, the plaintiffs sought to gauge the impact of COVID on local communities, seeking daily case counts and information about hospitalizations, deaths and vaccinations.

(more)

Meanwhile in the VT Digger:

FBI opens criminal probe into 3 troopers over fake Covid-19 vaccination cards

The Vermont State Police just out there criming.

Three Vermont State Police troopers out of the Shaftsbury barracks have resigned and a criminal probe is underway to determine whether they may have violated federal law by making fake Covid-19 vaccination cards.

The matter has been referred to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Vermont, as well as the FBI, which is investigating, according to a statement released by the Vermont State Police Tuesday afternoon in response to questions raised by VTDigger.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:03:00am

Even as a young schoolkid raised Catholic, I recall hearing the stories of Abraham and Isaac and of all the Christian martyrs whose gruesome deaths they celebrated in Catechism and wondered what kind of sick f*cks those people were to fixate on such things.

And I recall seeing our Catechism teacher kneeling down to kiss the ring of the visiting Monsignor and thinking “This is not what we do in America!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:07:30am

Meanwhile at The Verge, actions have consequences edition:

Tripwire CEO out 53 hours after tweeting his opinions on Texas abortion law

John Gibson, CEO of Tripwire Interactive — the studio known for making horror games like Killing Floor and Maneater — was made to step down a blisteringly quick 53 hours after he tweeted in favor of the controversial Texas abortion law.

In the tweet, Gibson says, “Proud of #USSupremeCourt affirming the Texas law banning abortion for babies with a heartbeat. As an entertainer I don’t get political often. Yet with so many vocal peers on the other side of this issue, I felt it was important to go on the record as a pro-life game developer.”

The tweet drew sharp criticisms from across the gaming industry with many consumers stating they would no longer buy Tripwire games and sharing how to block the developer from showing up in Steam recommendations. Detractors also noted that Gibson’s pro-life opinion wasn’t the problem but that he chose to voice it publicly in his capacity as a CEO and in support of a law that essentially offers $10,000 bounties on abortion seekers and the people who help them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:08:50am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Meanwhile at The Verge, actions have consequences edition:

Tripwire CEO out 53 hours after tweeting his opinions on Texas abortion law

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What is it with so many gamers and misogyny?

Rhetorical question.

Dateless wonders and incels.

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:18:18am

Good morning!

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:19:52am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife is watching some Danish TV miniseries with English subtitles, about mysterious kidnappers who appear to be some sort of special forces, and the Danish intelligence services figuring out who they are before something terrible happens to the hostages.

(Espionage/police dramas don’t really appeal to me.)

Danish miniseries with English subtitles don’t appeal to me.

Dubbing I’m sorta-kinda okay with. Sometimes. But remakes are really more my speed. The Killing (US version was set in Seattle), The Bridge (original was Denmark/Sweden, remake was El Paso/Juarez), Homeland (original was Israeli)…

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No Malarkey!  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:25:26am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not “foreign aid” in the modern sense, but aid from abroad in the form of weapons and supplies (which they had to purchase). They had limited means to produce their own and no way, for example, to replace damage rail lines or locomotives.

And of the many shortages the Confederacy had, one of the most critical was manpower. In the 1860 census, the states that would secede had only 1.1 million white men between the ages of 15-40, compared to 4 million in the free states. The slave states that didn’t secede had about 550k, and both sides recruited from there. But in addition, the North was also getting immigrants from Europe to recruit from, and eventually blacks from both the North and the South.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:30:24am

Kim Jong-un has clearly lost weight - and maybe hit the gym, too.

A photo taken within the last 24 hours or so.

He looks better, to be honest.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:32:57am

Stephanie Grisham about to cash in, according to Axios.

Scoop: The most dangerous Trump exposé

Stephanie Grisham has quietly written a top-secret memoir of her four years in Donald Trump’s White House, and a publishing source says she’ll reveal “surprising new scandals.”

What to watch: The book — “I’ll Take Your Questions Now: What I Saw in The Trump White House” — will be published Oct. 5 by Harper Collins.

A former West Wing colleague of Grisham’s tells Axios: “When I heard this, all I could think about was Stephanie surrounded by a lake of gasoline, striking a match with a grin on her face.”

A source close to the publication told Axios: “Grisham knows where all the bodies are buried because she buried a lot of them herself.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:41:14am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:48:02am

Well, Christians have a way out of the death penalty that atheists can’t claim. Expect to see more of this. (To be clear, I am opposed to the death penalty. I am also opposed to Christian privilege.)

A prisoner in Texas has been granted a last-minute stay of execution by the United States Supreme Court, after asking that his pastor be allowed to hold him as he is put to death by lethal injection.

John Ramirez, 37, was scheduled to be executed on Wednesday evening for stabbing a convenience store clerk to death during a 2004 robbery, but his lawyer petitioned the supreme court to halt execution on the grounds that the Texas Department of Criminal Justice (TDCJ) would not allow Baptist pastor Dana Moore to touch Ramirez as he is being executed or to pray aloud in the execution chamber.

“The application for stay of execution of sentence of death … is granted,” the Supreme Court’s ruling said on Tuesday.

It gave no explanation, a practice that is common in emergency rulings.

(more at Al Jazeera)

US Supreme Court stays prisoner execution over spiritual adviser

Texas officials’ refusal to allow pastor to touch, pray over John Ramirez during execution violates rights, lawyer says. (When has that ever been a thing? Are we just making up crap now?)

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:52:38am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, Christians have a way out of the death penalty that atheists can’t claim. Expect to see more of this. (To be clear, I am opposed to the death penalty. I am also opposed to Christian privilege.)

(more at Al Jazeera)

US Supreme Court stays prisoner execution over spiritual adviser

Texas officials’ refusal to allow pastor to touch, pray over John Ramirez during execution violates rights, lawyer says. (When has that ever been a thing? Are we just making up crap now?)

So I can go out and commit a capital offense and not get executed for it? Awesome! Who wants to go on a murder spree with me?

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steve_davis  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:54:48am

re: #36 austin_blue

Oof! I love you, man. Not that way, heh heh, but, you know, a BroMance and a double back punch. With a mask on. And a Moderna booster, which may not even be necessary until we get the latest double blind testing done.

It looks like initial research says the Pfizer vaccines are sucky in fighting the Delta in a straight-up Mano-a-Mano cage fight vis a vis the Moderna mRNA jab.

Wake the fuck up, folks, because this is very fucking important, if true:

What did Moderna do that Pfizer didn’t?

If one mRNA vaccine is demonstrably better than the other, should we shut Pfizer down and give Moderna a gazillion dollars to produce 12 billion doses?

The short answer may very well be Hell Yes.

Pfizer came out first and was given to many more elderly people than Moderna was. Hence, the reason why immunity for those folks is waning faster against Delta.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2021 • 5:59:25am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Kim Jong-un has clearly lost weight - and maybe hit the gym, too.

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A photo taken within the last 24 hours or so.

He looks better, to be honest.

If there is a significant uptick in executions we might guess that he’s not as well as he appears.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:00:47am

Taliban says keeping new cabinet members belonging to the Haqqani family on the US terror list is a clear violation of the Doha Agreement.

aljazeera.com

The Haqqani Network are listed internationally as terrorists. I believe the correct response would be “pound sand.”

The Taliban has accused the United States of violating the peace deal the two signed in 2020, for keeping its new interior minister Sirrajudin Haqqani on the US terror list.

The new minister, who is part of the Haqqani Network, had been accused of attacks on US forces in Afghanistan during the 20 years of war. The US has a $5m bounty for Haqqani. He also remains on a United Nations terror list.

Several other members of the group, including the acting Prime Minister Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund, are blacklisted internationally.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:05:48am

re: #139 Dopamine Fish

So I can go out and commit a capital offense and not get executed for it? Awesome! Who wants to go on a murder spree with me?

Only if you’re a Christian (or can credibly play one on television).

Such cases have been brought in Texas by Buddhists and Muslims and have always been denied.

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steve_davis  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:09:20am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

joking aside, I am increasingly worried that we will wind up chasing our tails trying to prevent the spread of a news, highly virulent and deadly variant that is resistant to our vaccines.

Aided by a mass of toxic, virulent deniers.

I promise you, when a variant comes along that kills 85% of victims and is highly transmissible, you’ll see a lot of posers suddenly discover there are no atheists in foxholes. they’ll do whatever they need to do. Covid isn’t killing quite enough people fast enough to cause stupid people to self-assess.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:11:58am

Well, look who’s resurfaced.

Attorney who filed lawsuit over Omaha bar owner’s suicide resurfaces (Omaha World-Herald)

The bar owner in question was the man who killed African-American man James Scurlock outside his bar, claiming he “feared for his life.” After the district attorney declined to investigate, statewide protests erupted, resulting in a grand jury being convened.

The grand jury handed down a murder indictment against the bar owner, who then fled to Oregon to evade arrest. He killed himself there.

The attorney who filed a wrongful-death lawsuit over Omaha bar owner Jake Gardner’s suicide resurfaced Wednesday after a mysterious two-week absence from court proceedings.

John Pierce, a Los Angeles attorney who gained celebrity by briefly representing gunman Kyle Rittenhouse and partnering with one of Donald Trump’s lawyers, had not shown up for several hearings on behalf of those accused in the Jan. 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol building.

Wednesday, he resumed his representation of his clients after what he said was a 12-day hospital stay. In a statement, he didn’t give a reason for his hospitalization, although his associate had told the court he was battling COVID-19.

“I am pleased to report that on Sunday, September 5, 2021, I was released from an LA-area hospital following a 12-day stay,” Pierce wrote to the court. “I was not ‘missing’ or anything of the sort.”

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His law firm gave all sorts of ridiculous reasons for his disappearance, none of them admitting “hospitalised with Covid-19.”

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:13:22am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:15:19am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Side note, I did not know that this guy was involved in that whole kerfuffle. I just know him as, “The attorney for Kyle Rittenhouse and a bunch of the 1/6 assholes who decided to let a non-lawyer play lawyer in his stead while he nearly died in a hospital on account of being a fuckwit.”

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steve_davis  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:16:46am

re: #95 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What foreign aid did they get? I’ve not heard this before?

Lee was an absolutely first-class administrator. His generals were top-rate. Like Napoleon, he didn’t despise generals like Forrest who basically came up from nothing and turned out to be damned good. But a great tactician he was not. Of course, neither was Grant. Grant basically won the Wilderness campaign by simply having more troops able to die than Lee did.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:16:50am

re: #146 Dopamine Fish

Scurlock was in downtown Omaha the night of May 30 after people protesting the killing of George Floyd were kicked out of the area of 72nd and Dodge Streets.

The suit alleges Franklin conspired with Kleine and two retired Omaha police detectives who were on Franklin’s team to make false and misleading statements to the news media. The statements “caused Mr. Gardner to lose all faith in the justice system and become paranoid and afraid for his life,” the lawsuit states. “As a result of this extreme emotional distress, Mr. Gardner committed suicide on Sept. 20, 2020.”

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:23:40am

So, a bit of excitement in my part of the world - a 100 kilo unexploded aerial bomb was discovered, so police naturally evacuated a part of the city (the other side of town from where I live) and a bomb disposal crew is on their way to deal with it.

(In Czech): novinky.cz

Every now and then, some unexploded WWII ordnance is discovered during excavations here.

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steve_davis  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:24:15am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Kim Jong-un has clearly lost weight - and maybe hit the gym, too.

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A photo taken within the last 24 hours or so.

He looks better, to be honest.

he’s dying. he has the yellow cast of liver failure, even with make up.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:25:12am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians gotta derp:

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Awwww. Somebody tossed an egg at Elder.

They should have milkshaked him.

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Dangerman  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:25:32am

A new Suffolk University poll conducted Monday and Tuesday and released yesterday shows that 58% of likely voters want Newsom to stay on and 41% want him recalled

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:27:31am

re: #65 Targetpractice

Let me guess, he’s promising to “Clean up” the homeless problem without giving specifics like “Providing housing” or “Financial assistance,” leaving the more likely answer to be “Make being homeless a crime so we can help make the private prison system even wealthier.”

Meanwhile Asshole Caitlyn Jenner has said that she wants the homeless people in Los Angeles rounded up and sent to the desert to fend for themselves.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:28:07am

re: #76 Dread Pirate Ron

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:29:22am

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

And Trumpists are intent on doing even more damage, with their disastrous covid19 response, which substitutes their political feelings and beliefs for facts and logic.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:29:30am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

So, a bit of excitement in my part of the world - a 100 kilo unexploded aerial bomb was discovered, so police naturally evacuated a part of the city (the other side of town from where I live) and a bomb disposal crew is on their way to deal with it.

(In Czech): novinky.cz

Every now and then, some unexploded WWII ordnance is discovered during excavations here.

Something us Americans don’t really comprehend. It’s been over 150 years since the last war in North America, and unexploded ordnance is very, very rare. I can’t remember the last time I read about a Civil War artillery shell being discovered.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:34:38am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

There’s probably literally tons of unexploded ordnance all over Europe. There’s a part of the WWI Verdun battlefield (amongst other places) where entry is still prohibited.

en.wikipedia.org

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:36:17am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:36:34am

re: #115 Teukka

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:36:48am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

Something us Americans don’t really comprehend. It’s been over 150 years since the last war in North America, and unexploded ordnance is very, very rare. I can’t remember the last time I read about a Civil War artillery shell being discovered.

Here you go.

Civil War artillery shell discovered in downtown Charleston (FOX News Channel, February 7, 2020)

An artillery shell from the Civil War was discovered in downtown Charleston this week.

Charleston Police Department tweeted Wednesday that the shell was found by a construction crew at Gillian Street, which is in the heart in the historic city. Roads were closed in the area while a U.S. Air Force Explosive Ordnance Disposal team removed the shell.

A spokesman for the Charleston Police Department confirmed to Fox News that the shell was subsequently destroyed by the Air Force EOD team.

(more, with video of the shell)

42 artillery shells found south of Atlanta (The Civil War Picket Blog, October 14, 2009, with a photograph of the shells)

A contractor installing a new water line at a home near Lovejoy, Ga., made a surprising find last Friday.

Workers discovered 42 Civil War-era artillery shells, believed to have been left behind or misplaced by Union soldiers in September 1864.

Mark Pollard, Henry County’s Civil War historian, said the homeowner, whom he declined to identify, contacted him after he had pulled all but two of the Hotchkiss projectiles out from the 2-foot-deep cache.

“It’s exciting to know there are finds like that out there,” says Pollard, who completed the recovery and transport of the rifled rounds.

The Clayton County homeowner agreed to donate them to the Nash Farm museum, where Pollard leads battlefield tours. Nash Farm is a Henry County historic park.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:37:18am

A preview of what Republicans will do when they take over The House in 2023…

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:39:32am

Greets and saluts from the soggy NYC metro area. We’re getting rain here for the first time since Ida drenched the region, which has put folks in some areas on edge due to the still soggy/elevated river levels here.

But the thing that pisses me off is that we’ve got firefighters in places like Newark bitching that the mayor there mandated vaccinations for all municipal workers, including firefighters. They think they should have a choice.

Ummm.. no.

There are medical requirements to be a firefighter. You have to be physically fit. Getting covid undermines that fitness and puts themselves, their communities, and fellow firefighters at risk. They’re required to get tetanus vaccines regularly. It’s a job hazard.

Get vaccinated.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:39:39am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Here you go.

Civil War artillery shell discovered in downtown Charleston (FOX News Channel, February 7, 2020)

(more, with video of the shell)

42 artillery shells found south of Atlanta (The Civil War Picket Blog, October 14, 2009, with a photograph of the shells)

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Days since reading about Civil War unexploded ordnance: 0

Thanks!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:41:02am

re: #164 Dopamine Fish

Days since reading about Civil War unexploded ordnance: 0

Thanks!

I live to serve. /s

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:41:25am

re: #144 steve_davis

I promise you, when a variant comes along that kills 85% of victims and is highly transmissible, you’ll see a lot of posers suddenly discover there are no atheists in foxholes. they’ll do whatever they need to do. Covid isn’t killing quite enough people fast enough to cause stupid people to self-assess.

I hope you are right but from experience I know just how dumb Xtians can be.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:43:08am

re: #162 JOE 🥓

A preview of what Republicans will do when they take over The House in 2023…

WHAR INVESTIGATION OF GW BUSH’S ART???

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:44:43am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:45:16am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:45:20am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

WHAR INVESTIGATION OF GW BUSH’S ART???

Republicans never investigate Gawdly Xtians.

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Dangerman  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:45:25am

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I live to serve. /s

It’s a cookbook!!!!

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:46:00am

I think the very fact that it’s left up to private citizens is what should render it unconstitutional:

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:46:49am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:46:54am

re: #164 Dopamine Fish

Days since reading about Civil War unexploded ordnance: 0

Thanks!

Here’s one more, then I’ll move on.

America Still Has a Problem With Unexploded Civil War Bombs (National Interest, April 12, 2019)

On April 22, members of the U.S. Army’s 707th Explosive Ordinance Disposal Company left their base on a mission to detonate a very unusual object.

Construction crews had discovered an Absterdam Type 2/3 Projectile in Ilwaco, Washington. This type of explosive artillery shell dates to around the time of the American Civil War.

The soldiers, based at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, received a request for assistance from local police. The soldiers moved the shell to a quarry and blew it up.

“It’s one of those things that, as long as it’s left alone, it’s not going to do much,” Long Beach police chief Flint Wright told the Chinook Observer. “But if it’s jostled, it could be quite dangerous.”

But what the Hell was a Civil War artillery shell doing in Washington State?

Most likely, it was a leftover from troops stationed at Fort Canby, one of two bases the Union built during the Civil War to defend the mouth of the Columbia River from a possible — but highly unlikely — surprise attack by the Confederacy.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:48:45am

In the put-up-or-shut-up department:

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Dangerman  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:48:45am

President Biden is expected to sign an order Thursday requiring all federal employees to be vaccinated, without any option for regular coronavirus testing to opt out of the mandate,” the Washington Post reports.

The mandate will impact all 2.1 million federal workers as well as millions of contractors who work with the U.S. government.

Biden is scheduled to speak to the nation at 5 p.m. ET.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:48:55am

Capt. Shawn McMickle, the soldiers’ company commander, said that he’s responded to three Civil War-era explosives since he’s served with the Army in the Pacific Northwest.

Typically, construction crews and loggers find the war relics buried in the ground or in the brush. But they can — and do — turn up in more unusual places.

On Jan. 21, members of the Fort Belvoir, Virginia-based 55th EOD Company responded to a call from police and firefighters in Georgetown, Maryland. They’d found a Civil War cannonball in the chimney of an 1890s townhouse.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:50:19am

I kind of wonder:

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A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:50:36am

re: #162 JOE 🥓

They’re just jealous that Dems are investigating TFG’s kids for their financial dealings….

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:51:37am

Come and get it, your Thursday doomering:

Andreas Malm: “The likely future is escalating catastrophe”
One of the most disturbing features of the Covid-19 pandemic is that it was entirely predictable. Scientists had long warned that infectious diseases were emerging at an unprecedented rate. But the world paid little attention.
In his book Corona, Climate, Chronic Emergency - a bracing 224-page polemic written in the wake of Covid-19 - the Swedish academic Andreas Malm elucidates the links between the climate crisis and pandemics. “Zoonotic spill over is a result of the destruction of biodiversity,” Malm, 43, told me when we spoke. In one chilling section, he notes that deforestation in south-east Asia is expected to force 99 per cent of the region’s bats to migrate by 2050 (there are thought to be as many as 3,000 coronaviruses circulating among bat species). The number of “emerging infectious disease events” in the world is forecast to rise by more than five per year.
Malm is a scholar of human ecology who teaches at Lund University, Sweden.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:57:05am
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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 6:57:13am
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Dangerman  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:00:58am
Dr. Anthony Fauci told Axios that ***Americans are now getting infected with COVID-19 at 10 times the rate needed to end the pandemic***, which will persist until more people get vaccinated.

Said Fauci: “The endgame is to suppress the virus. Right now, we’re still in pandemic mode, because we have 160,000 new infections a day. That’s not even modestly good control… which means it’s a public health threat.”

He added: “In a country of our size, you can’t be hanging around and having 100,000 infections a day. You’ve got to get well below 10,000 before you start feeling comfortable.

*** gym Jordan’s an ass

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:01:42am

re: #151 steve_davis

he’s dying. he has the yellow cast of liver failure, even with make up.

But he’s got millions of “willing” liver donors, surely they can find a match.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:02:10am

Afghanistan doing better than the Third World nations of Texas and Florida.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:02:38am

re: #175 Belafon

In the put-up-or-shut-up department:

I have a friend who works for United and has to deal with very stupid, very loud, radicalized-right, co-workers who show up in other people’s work areas to lie about politics. This will be bad news to him. Only half of the nuts he has to put up with are still trying to get fired.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:06:23am

re: #183 Dangerman

*** gym Jordan’s an ass

Like I’ve said here and elsewhere before, when a infection curve goes exponential, the only ways it will end is either people in charge having a moment of lucidity and doing the right thing, or the virus running out of people to infect. Until then, exponential increase…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:07:26am

Patton Oswalt trending on Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:10:31am
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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:10:47am

re: #182 Belafon

I’ve been seeing reports about how ivermectin shows infertility among men, but that’s a single study that isn’t exactly gold standard for drawing any kinds of conclusions. Lancet has a study about how ivermectin affects pregnant women, and it appears that it’s relatively safe in those situations. Again, small sample sizes affects study reliability to draw conclusions.

Still, it’s people taking horse paste and not the human form/dosing can cause serious adverse reactions. It also doesn’t prevent covid. Vaccines do that.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:10:51am

Marky Mark supports the recall.

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Nojay UK  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:10:59am

re: #187 Teukka

the only ways it will end is either people in charge having a moment of lucidity and doing the right thing, or the virus running out of people to infect. Until then, exponential increase…

There are anecdotal reports surfacing of individuals who have contracted COVID-19 three times over the past 18 months. Catching the disease is no absolute guarantee of future immunity, especially if the virus continues to circulate while acquired and/or vaccine immunity wears out in individuals and groups.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:13:59am

Conservatives gotta conserve their old conspiracies.

Unfounded claims about the ‘New World Order’ conspiracy theory are shared after an Australian governmental official used the expression during a press conference on Thursday
New South Wales Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant used the phrase during a press conference on Thursday. Fact-checkers have regularly debunked claims connected to the conspiracy theory. The phrase is commonly used to describe times of change or cultural shift.

twitter.com (Twitter trending)

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:17:43am

re: #192 Nojay UK

There are anecdotal reports surfacing of individuals who have contracted COVID-19 three times over the past 18 months. Catching the disease is no absolute guarantee of future immunity, especially if the virus continues to circulate while acquired and/or vaccine immunity wears out in individuals and groups.

Yep. From what I’ve been able to deduce, “natural” immunity acquired by getting infected tends to be specifically geared towards the variant you were infected by.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:18:46am

re: #194 Teukka

Yep. From what I’ve been able to deduce, “natural” immunity acquired by getting infected tends to be specifically geared towards the variant you were infected by.

But when combined with vaccination, apparently the spike proteins introduced by the vaccine make some people’s immune systems go absolutely bonkers and produce antibodies to resist basically every variant conceivably possible. Now I’m regretting not getting an mRNA vaccine.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:20:21am

re: #195 Dopamine Fish

But when combined with vaccination, apparently the spike proteins introduced by the vaccine make some people’s immune systems go absolutely bonkers and produce antibodies to resist basically every variant conceivably possible. Now I’m regretting not getting an mRNA vaccine.

Aye. And a third jab also produces an effect in that ballpark according to early research.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:22:52am
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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:24:11am

re: #190 lawhawk

I’ve been seeing reports about how ivermectin shows infertility among men, but that’s a single study that isn’t exactly gold standard for drawing any kinds of conclusions. Lancet has a study about how ivermectin affects pregnant women, and it appears that it’s relatively safe in those situations. Again, small sample sizes affects study reliability to draw conclusions.

Still, it’s people taking horse paste and not the human form/dosing can cause serious adverse reactions. It also doesn’t prevent covid. Vaccines do that.

If someone asked me about the Ivermectin study, I would say it’s only a single study, but you should be wary of the drug since it’s not for fighting viruses, and why are you suddenly worried about a single study when the whole reason you’re taking a horse dewormer is because of a flawed single study?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:29:35am

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:30:02am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Apparently the person who did it was a person wearing a gorilla mask riding a bicycle. Cue the cries from the right wingers on the liberal racists. (No indication the person is a liberal.)

As for what Larry Elder was doing, he was touring a homeless camp in Venice and using the homeless as a photo op, while the people there were all booing him.

Gorrilla warfare?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:31:36am

re: #200 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Gorrilla warfare?

Memories of Captain Sticky the Venice Crusader who would spray crooks with a peanut butter and jelly aerosol…

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:31:36am

re: #190 lawhawk

I’ve been seeing reports about how ivermectin shows infertility among men, but that’s a single study that isn’t exactly gold standard for drawing any kinds of conclusions. Lancet has a study about how ivermectin affects pregnant women, and it appears that it’s relatively safe in those situations. Again, small sample sizes affects study reliability to draw conclusions.

Still, it’s people taking horse paste and not the human form/dosing can cause serious adverse reactions. It also doesn’t prevent covid. Vaccines do that.

re: #198 Belafon

If someone asked me about the Ivermectin study, I would say it’s only a single study, but you should be wary of the drug since it’s not for fighting viruses, and why are you suddenly worried about a single study when the whole reason you’re taking a horse dewormer is because of a flawed single study?

From what I gather, the effects appear to be temporary, but the reproductive toxicity of Ivermectin appears to have been known for quite some time. No genetic toxicity or carcinogenity found tho, *knocks wood*. Enough to make Swedish authorities ask docs to think twice before prescribing even the topical cream to pregnant women.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:33:42am

Good step.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:34:06am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:35:36am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

Senator Paul, with all due respect (that is to say, none at all), WHAT THE FUCK? Has the President publicly said he is banning any guns whatsoever? I feel like I would have heard the screeching of the flying monkeys if that had been the case. In other words: Fuck you, you fascist faux-libertarian fuckboy. I hope your neighbor beats the ever-loving shit out of you again.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:39:36am

re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One can only wonder how a Civil War cannonball ended up in a chimney decades after the war ended. That would be an interesting story!

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:41:11am

re: #132 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Does anyone know what this fruit (about the size of a plum) is?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:42:47am

re: #205 Dopamine Fish

Senator Paul, with all due respect (that is to say, none at all), WHAT THE FUCK? Has the President publicly said he is banning any guns whatsoever? I feel like I would have heard the screeching of the flying monkeys if that had been the case. In other words: Fuck you, you fascist faux-libertarian fuckboy. I hope your neighbor beats the ever-loving shit out of you again.

Since the GQP has no solutions for real problems, they have to oppose imaginary ones, such as the evil Democratic plans to grab guns, steal elections, abolish the police, impose a socialist economic system, and close churches.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:43:40am
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danarchy  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:43:49am

re: #207 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Western good morning!

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Does anyone know what this fruit (about the size of a plum) is?

hard to tell, could be tomatillos

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:44:35am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

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Any good psychologist will tell you why Rand is lusting at those guns!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:45:03am

Influencer trash now have to disclose that they’re paid advertisers in Germany.
reuters.com

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:46:08am

re: #208 No Malarkey!

Since the GQP has no solutions for real problems, they have to oppose imaginary ones, such as the evil Democratic plans to grab guns, steal elections, abolish the police, impose a socialist economic system, and close churches.

It’s what they’ve always done, even before becoming a blatant death-cult. They specialize in imaginary solutions to imaginary problems they sell to the rubes.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:46:14am

re: #210 danarchy

hard to tell, could be tomatillos

looks like Tomatillos with the outside husks forming.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:46:15am

Look at these entitled assholes get thrown off the aircraft.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:51:12am

State Senator Megan Hunt weighing in on an automated message she got from the ACLU, asking her to call her senator Megan Hunt over the proposed gerrymanding here by the GQP. (Aside from calling herself, she is the one leading the filibuster charge against the racist gerrymander of Omaha both in the US House district and state districts. The talking point “Why wouldn’t Omaha want two representatives is now being parroted by every GQP politician here, only twenty-four hours after some parrot factory produced it.)

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:51:37am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We saw Marc Maron last month, and all attendees had to show proof of vaccination. And it was a great show.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:53:37am

re: #210 danarchy

hard to tell, could be tomatillos

Oh, I love salsa verde, but I’ve never made it myself because I don’t know how to deal with tomatillos.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:56:07am

re: #209 lawhawk

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Imagine the news cycle if she was president:

News: President Klobuchar has breast cancer.
Democratic Women: Let’s discuss breast cancer and how women have had to deal with it.
Democratic Men: More funding for research.
Republican Men: That’s why women shouldn’t be president.
Republican Women: While it’s sad that she has cancer, we shouldn’t discount the fact that this is what happens when women become president.
Media: Parties are split over whether women should be president.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:57:35am

re: #208 No Malarkey!

Since the GQP has no solutions for real problems, they have to oppose imaginary ones, such as the evil Democratic plans to grab guns, steal elections, abolish the police, impose a socialist economic system, and close churches.

If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If the law is on your side, pound the law. If neither is on your side, make up an imaginary crisis and scream about it until the media start reporting it as a fact.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:57:44am

re: #215 The Pie Overlord!

Look at these entitled assholes get thrown off the aircraft.

CoViDiots gonna CoViDiot… :sighs:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:57:52am

re: #217 Egregious Philbin

We saw Marc Maron last month, and all attendees had to show proof of vaccination. And it was a great show.

I suppose, particularly for famous musicians, comedians, &c., they could sell out any venue in which they appeared. I presume most of them don’t want to get sick or see their fans get sick either.

So it should be a no-brainer to say “we won’t tour where the GQP prohibits protecting our safety or the safety of our fans.”

I can see soon a majority of such entertainers avoiding red states entirely, and I don’t blame them.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 9, 2021 • 7:58:36am

re: #210 danarchy

hard to tell, could be tomatillos

I don’t think so, you can’t really tell from the picture, but they have what seem to be soft spikes all over them. Unfortunately, I can’t get any closer to them than that.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:00:48am

re: #222 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suppose, particularly for famous musicians, comedians, &c., they could sell out any venue in which they appeared. I presume most of them don’t want to get sick or see their fans get sick either.

So it should be a no-brainer to say “we won’t tour where the GQP prohibits protecting our safety or the safety of our fans.”

I can see soon a majority of such entertainers avoiding red states entirely, and I don’t blame them.

And the ones who don’t, like Kid Rock, will contract Covid.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:04:01am

Little prick gets a rehearing on his death sentence.

Dylan Roof, who was found guilty of murdering nine people who were attending a prayer meeting at a South Carolina Black church back in 2015, is petitioning a full federal appeals court to review his death sentence, Axios reports.

Roof’s first appeal was rejected in August after he became the first person in the U.S. to be sentenced to death on federal hate crime charges. According to Roof’s lawyers, prosecutors defied past Supreme Court rulings by arguing he deserved the death penalty “based on victim worth.”

“The Panel’s decision conflicts with this precedent, opening the door to death sentences based on victims’ goodness and worth,” Roof’s lawyers wrote in the court filing. “Especially troubling, it sanctions reliance on victims’ religiosity as evidence of that heightened worth.”

If Roof’s appeal is granted, his entire case will be reheard.

deadstate.org

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A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:05:45am

re: #191 JOE 🥓

The accounts were restored about 15 minutes ago according to the end of the thread.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:06:58am

re: #82 Targetpractice

It’s like I’ve said before, the sort of morons buying into this shit are the same ones who get snookered by late-night infomercials for “Super Beet” gummies and “Green Power” smoothies, the ones who are overweight and smoke like a chimney but insist they’re “perfectly healthy” because they’re guzzling some “wonder food” each morning before gorging on fast food and sodas. The ones who will buy a bottle of baby asprin because their doc advises them to take it to avoid heart issues, but ignore the same advice to cut back their cholesterol intake or give up smoking because “I feel fine.” These are the sorts of folks who latch on “miracle cures,” because they don’t want to prevent health issues, they just want a “Get Out of Jail Free” card for bad behavior.

I confess I am doing something similar. In response to my terrible tinnitus, the doctors say “grin and bear it”. After seeing an online ad for a herbal supplement that supposedly helps, I started taking it. Maybe the help it provides is basically psychological, but my internist did say the ingredients are harmless. So it may be a waste of money — but affordable.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:07:37am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:09:25am

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:10:57am

re: #228 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Gee, I wonder why the state isn’t tracking those deaths?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:11:29am

re: #228 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I just want to get all the GQP motherfuckers together in a room, look each of them dead in the eye, and ask one question:

WHY.

Why do these people have to die? Why did you have to promote policies and practices that encouraged people to avoid effective remedies and resort to fucking horse dewormer in a vain attempt to save themselves? Why is it so important to you that COVID not be a thing? Why aren’t you working to actually MAKE COVID not a thing? Why do you shitheads have to be EVIL?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:12:06am

re: #89 Targetpractice

“Why buy organic foods and cook them yourself when you can pop this frozen dinner in the oven that tastes just like the pot pies your mama used to make?”

Too much work. If it needs to be cooked but cannot be microwaved, it does not make it into my kitchen.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:13:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:14:03am

re: #231 Dopamine Fish

Power. Because they can. The power to kill with impunity, as if they were gods.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:15:11am

re: #231 Dopamine Fish

I just want to get all the GQP motherfuckers together in a room, look each of them dead in the eye, and ask one question:

WHY.

Why do these people have to die? Why did you have to promote policies and practices that encouraged people to avoid effective remedies and resort to fucking horse dewormer in a vain attempt to save themselves? Why is it so important to you that COVID not be a thing? Why aren’t you working to actually MAKE COVID not a thing? Why do you shitheads have to be EVIL?

Answer—They want to drive Joe Biden out of office by any means at their disposal.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:16:02am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

I confess I am doing something similar. In response to my terrible tinnitus, the doctors say “grin and bear it”. After seeing an online ad for a herbal supplement that supposedly helps, I started taking it. Maybe the help it provides is basically psychological, but my internist did say the ingredients are harmless. So it may be a waste of money — but affordable.

I know, Shatner, but he had the same problem, and found something that helped him.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:16:47am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Power. Because they can. The power to kill with impunity, as if they were gods.

Having seen docus about serial killers and reading books about them too, the power rush of killing is said to be orgasmic. Like, it’s been documented that serial killers lose bladder, rectal control and even ejaculate during their deeds…

Wish to G-d I was /S…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:19:42am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

SAP Employee Janene Hoskovec Fired After Intentionally Coughing on Shoppers at Nebraska Grocery Store

what sort of sociopathy is behind behavior like this?

It wasn’t even just what she was doing but the creepy smile and satisfaction she got from doing it.

Total psychobitch.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:20:09am

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:24:17am

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Seems like a great time for a well armed liberal militia to show up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:25:44am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Kim Jong-un has clearly lost weight - and maybe hit the gym, too.

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A photo taken within the last 24 hours or so.

He looks better, to be honest.

There was a poll on that article asking How concerned are you about his weight loss? Alas, there was no option for Who gives a fuck?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:29:39am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well shit. He survived.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:29:59am

re: #237 Teukka

I don’t think this is even that sophisticated.

After 9/11 we had a brief, maybe 6 months of “unity”. After the holidays and into the new year a bit, the southern GOP started their bullshit. Liberals hate America and love the terrorists. Liberals want to destroy America and make us into a sharia nation. It was not Democrats that started that shit. It was not Democrats who went all over media and declared that liberals were against the war and water boarding and torture because we were on the other side.

And the stupid paid off not giving a shit media was not only welcoming of these messages, they blew them up and made them viral. It created and supported an already existing media infrastructure that pounded this message over and over til it “became” the truth. And it resonated with a lot of people in a country of scared people who needed someone to hate and blame. “Those people over there” wasn’t enough, they needed someone to hate and blame and take out their anger on. And it worked. And is still working. They gave their post 9/11 strategy steroids and ivermectin and cared not one shit about who they hurt or the deaths that they helped cause because they view it as a win. Even if it kills them. They aren’t all serial killers, most of them are just selfish, miserable and mean people who barely love their own families let alone anyone in the community surrounding them.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:30:13am

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Tell the police that the protesters are Black.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:30:20am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

I confess I am doing something similar. In response to my terrible tinnitus, the doctors say “grin and bear it”. After seeing an online ad for a herbal supplement that supposedly helps, I started taking it. Maybe the help it provides is basically psychological, but my internist did say the ingredients are harmless. So it may be a waste of money — but affordable.

Try ear inducing worms to distract from tinnitus! I deliberately create rock and roll ear worms in my head to distract from my tinnitus sounds. It works! Some days I don’t even notice the tinnitus until dinner time because lyrics from Springsteen, Cohen, Orbison, Petty and the like fill my imaginary head sound space instead: Currently Orbison: “I see you through the rain, through the heartache and pain, it hurts like never before.”

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retired cynic  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:33:53am

re: #245 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I use a white noise machine to sleep at night. Just try to keep my mind occupied during the day. As it gets worse as I age (sob), I’ll just have to use the white noise machine all the time.

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JC1  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:34:41am

re: #140 steve_davis

Pfizer came out first and was given to many more elderly people than Moderna was. Hence, the reason why immunity for those folks is waning faster against Delta.

Moderna had a 3.3x higher dose. That could also have something to do with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:36:59am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:38:08am

re: #168 Belafon

The Star Trek presentation seems to be on a loop. It’s pretty close to the beginning now.
startrek.com

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retired cynic  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:38:17am

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:38:22am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Transmissibility is the key. Vaccine resistance doesn’t matter if the virus is significantly harder to transmit.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:43:10am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oh damn! I almost read that guy’s name as Peter Hurtz…

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:43:40am

ℹ️ ⚠️ BTW, the tactic of hiding razors inside posters or stickers is quite common in some circles, always use an implement to peel off any stickers or posters you see around and need to peel away. ⚠️ ℹ️

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:44:13am

re: #234 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Power. Because they can. The power to kill with impunity, as if they were gods.

See for example wholly owned Koch subsidiary Sen. Ron Johnson.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:45:57am

re: #78 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s all we need is a Mu variant of a Delta lineage.

Mornin’ everyone.

Mu scares the fuck out of me because it’s a mutation we shouldn’t have to worry about in the US except we still have about 20% of the country actively trying to spread the virus. Though I did read about another monoclonal treatment that’s been developed that goes after the base of the spike stem, rather than the spike protein itself. This base is common across all variants of the virus and it promises to be effective against future mutations.

But, like the treatments we have now, it’s going to be costly and hard to scale.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:46:13am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

See for example wholly owned Koch subsidiary Sen. Ron Johnson.

The “heartbreaking stories” are just sob stories about people being fired or having to quit their beloved job because they’re too indoctrinated to get a simple shot that will save their life and possibly others’. They’re trying to appeal to the biggest difference between us and them - our empathy.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:48:08am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

See for example wholly owned Koch subsidiary Sen. Ron Johnson.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:48:23am

re: #253 Teukka

ℹ️ ⚠️ BTW, the tactic of hiding razors inside posters or stickers is quite common in some circles, always use an implement to peel off any stickers or posters you see around and need to peel away. ⚠️ ℹ️

Also, needles, syringes, shards of glass, anything that will hurt someone trying to remove the sticker or poster. Sometimes prepared with human feces (SIC(!)).

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Teddy's Person  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:48:25am

Jen Psaki at yesterday’s press briefing: “I will let others evaluate whether they think Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer and others were qualified, or not political, to serve on these boards, but the President’s qualification requirements are not your party registration, they are whether you’re qualified to serve and whether you’re aligned with the values of this administration.”

Sean Spicer on Newsmax: “Don’t you dare ever minimize or question my service to this nation! You got it?”

Me this morning: “I thought Sean’s stint on Dancing with the Stars was a particularly patriot act of public service.”

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We all walks this ways  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:51:15am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:51:44am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 8:57:51am

“We tried this in the Seventies and it failed so miserably we want to try it again. What we don’t want to try is upsetting our fossil fuel overlords.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:02:13am

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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They’re are-enacting They Live billboards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:03:50am

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“We tried this in the Seventies and it failed so miserably we want to try it again. What we don’t want to try is upsetting our fossil fuel overlords.”

If speed was the real issue (it does use more gasoline), then the mileage for city driving would be higher since cities require lower speeds.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:07:31am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If speed was the real issue (it does use more gasoline), then the mileage for city driving would be higher since cities require lower speeds.

City driving is stop-and-go; acceleration is what kills the mileage. The lower speed would actually be more efficient if it didn’t get offset by the fuel used to change speeds. With that said, there’s obviously a lower limit to that efficiency, and I don’t think the difference is as big as they are claiming.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:11:02am

re: #265 Dopamine Fish

City driving is stop-and-go; acceleration is what kills the mileage. The lower speed would actually be more efficient if it didn’t get offset by the fuel used to change speeds. With that said, there’s obviously a lower limit to that efficiency, and I don’t think the difference is as big as they are claiming.

One thing that works in places which use traffic lights (not here) is making sure that traffic lights are properly timed, so that they regulate the speed of through traffic on city streets. A little expense by cities to ensure traffic lights are timed goes a long way to both reduce pollution and traffic bottlenecks.

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gocart mozart  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:11:07am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:11:24am

Thread, six tweets.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:12:19am

Ugh. Retraining my body to eat lunch an hour later is killing me.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:12:56am

re: #267 gocart mozart

You haven’t lived until you’ve tried my athlete’s foot risotto.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:15:29am

re: #269 Dopamine Fish

Ugh. Retraining my body to eat lunch an hour later is killing me.

If I don’t eat at the same time every day, Mr. Meter gets very upset.

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darthstar  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:16:44am

One thing I love about Kauai is all of the roosters that crow beginning around 4am. This hen and her chicks are in our yard and came up to us a few times to say hello. Whenever a passing cloud dropped a little rain, they’d all go under the umbrella and she’d hunker down.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:17:31am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:18:49am

re: #271 JOE 🥓

If I don’t eat at the same time every day, Mr. Meter gets very upset.

Mrs. Fish has a long delay in picking up the kids from school, because one kid’s school gets out at around 2:30 and the other kid around 3:30. As a result, she can’t really have dinner cooked and prepped until after she gets home, which is much later than we used to eat dinner before this year. In order to avoid being hangry with the family, I agreed to adjust my lunch schedule later in the morning to leave less of a gap between lunch and dinner. But that just started this week, and so my stomach is complaining loudly.

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:19:30am

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“We tried this in the Seventies and it failed so miserably we want to try it again. What we don’t want to try is upsetting our fossil fuel overlords.”

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Do you know how many police will have to be hired to enforce this? People are routinely doing 10-15 over the speed limit all over the DFW area, even out where the speed limit is 75.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:20:10am
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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:20:27am
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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:20:55am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If speed was the real issue (it does use more gasoline), then the mileage for city driving would be higher since cities require lower speeds.

How much gas do I save in my Tesla at 55mph vs 70 mph? (I don’t really have a Tesla but as we move to electric…)

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Belafon  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:22:07am

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Gunter may have the greatest avatar on Twitter.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:22:24am

re: #277 lawhawk

People who are so destructive and antisocial that they won’t vaccinate should not be in a position where people are forced to interact with them. It’s totally unacceptable.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:25:10am

re: #267 gocart mozart

Wait until she finds out about tomatoes. Or squash. Okra? Peppers?

Gonna be rude Awakening time!

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retired cynic  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:25:52am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One thing that works in places which use traffic lights (not here) is making sure that traffic lights are properly timed, so that they regulate the speed of through traffic on city streets. A little expense by cities to ensure traffic lights are timed goes a long way to both reduce pollution and traffic bottlenecks.

Not to mention Frustration.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:26:26am

Moderna working on a combo Covid/flu vaccine. This mRNA tech is cool stuff.

nbcnews.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:27:39am

re: #274 Dopamine Fish

Mrs. Fish has a long delay in picking up the kids from school, because one kid’s school gets out at around 2:30 and the other kid around 3:30. As a result, she can’t really have dinner cooked and prepped until after she gets home, which is much later than we used to eat dinner before this year. In order to avoid being hangry with the family, I agreed to adjust my lunch schedule later in the morning to leave less of a gap between lunch and dinner. But that just started this week, and so my stomach is complaining loudly.

Do you know how to cook? That might help. Her.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:27:57am

re: #278 Rightwingconspirator

How much gas do I save in my Tesla at 55mph vs 70 mph? (I don’t really have a Tesla but as we move to electric…)

One of the arguments Bloomberg is making is to allow electric cars to go faster than internal combustion cars, or allow them to use HOV lanes where they normally wouldn’t be allowed. Then use the traffic police to enforce lower speed limits on gasoline cars.

This still doesn’t solve the real problem of gasoline cars: No matter how fast or slow you go, the amount of pollution burning eight gallons of gasoline is roughly the same. The only difference is what distance that eight gallons can take you (in my car’s case, four hundred miles, or or almost entirely across the state of Nebraska).

Electric cars don’t solve the issue of gasoline taxes to pay for roads, either, but that’s a separate issue. (Plus a lot of gasoline taxes are used as a slush fund rather than a transportation fund.)

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:28:43am

re: #278 Rightwingconspirator

How much gas do I save in my Tesla at 55mph vs 70 mph? (I don’t really have a Tesla but as we move to electric…)

Nothing like the fuel economy you would have gotten with the Ford Nucleon!

thedrive.com

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:33:11am

re: #284 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Do you know how to cook? That might help. Her.

Of course I do, and I cook when I can, but sometimes she refuses to let me cook.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:33:18am

Dr. Jennifer Gunter goes into greater detail about QAnon loon, antivaxxer, and OB/GYN promoted by both Oprah Winfrey and NPR, Dr. Christiane Northrup.

Dr. Gunter is calling for her board certifications (and possibly license) to be stripped.

The Pandemic’s Worst Woman: Dr. Christiane Northrup (Goes to The Vajenda, Dr. Gunter’s blog, about midnight this morning)

How Oprah and PBS helped her become a pseudoscience superstar and why she needs to lose her board certification

These lies about the vaccine (in pregnant people) didn’t go mainstream because people did their own research. What has happened was the exact opposite. They were exposed to disinformation by what they thought were credible sources, and it stuck, effectively blocking accurate content that happened to show up second. That is what propaganda does. It is important to note that it can take just being exposed to incorrect information once to believe in it.

Where does this anti vaccine propaganda related to fertility and pregnancy come from? Much of it has been touched in some way, either created or amplified, by Dr. Christiane Northrup.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:34:29am

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Dr. Jennifer Gunter goes into greater detail about QAnon loon, antivaxxer, and OB/GYN promoted by both Oprah Winfrey and NPR, Dr. Christiane Northrup.

Dr. Gunter is calling for her board certifications (and possibly license) to be stripped.

The Pandemic’s Worst Woman: Dr. Christiane Northrup (Goes to The Vajenda, Dr. Gunter’s blog, about midnight this morning)

How Oprah and PBS helped her become a pseudoscience superstar and why she needs to lose her board certification

Northrup is just another jerk that Oprah mainstreamed along with quacks Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:36:21am

re: #286 JOE 🥓

Nothing like the fuel economy you would have gotten with the Ford Nucleon!

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thedrive.com

Rolling coal! 3.5 roentgens! - not good, not bad.

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austin_blue  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:37:24am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Kim Jong-un has clearly lost weight - and maybe hit the gym, too.

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A photo taken within the last 24 hours or so.

He looks better, to be honest.

He’s certainly wearing a killer suit.

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Jay C  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:41:41am

re: #278 Rightwingconspirator

How much gas do I save in my Tesla at 55mph vs 70 mph? (I don’t really have a Tesla but as we move to electric…)

OK, I will freely admit to grossly inadequate knowledge of the engineering/physics of the issue, but isn’t the main problem of auto emissions in an urban (I.e. lots of stop-and-go driving at relatively slow speeds) the fuel used (burned), and the comparison should be between fossil-fuel vehicles vs. electric ones. Period.
Not having an electric car, I have no idea how usage is affected by stop-and-go vs steady-speed driving. Do EVs use more juice on startup the way gas do?

Anecdote: despite (what I would imagine to be.) the advantages , I have seen (and ridden in) just one electric taxi here in NY. A Tesla Mod 3, which makes a terrible cab (almost no room in the back)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:43:50am

re: #287 Dopamine Fish

Of course I do, and I cook when I can, but sometimes she refuses to let me cook.

I can relate. I prefer cooking, myself. I was just thinking out loud. 😁

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:44:45am

There is a huge gathering of people going on at the church across the street. On a Thursday morning here, that only means one of two things: Wedding or Funeral.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:45:44am

re: #289 JOE 🥓

Northrup is just another jerk that Oprah mainstreamed along with quacks Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.

Oz is another one who needs to lose his license. Fucking snake oil salesmen, quack.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:46:56am

re: #291 austin_blue

He’s certainly wearing a killer suit.

If you look at the other pics in that article, that suit is far too big on him. Like it was tailored 25 pounds ago.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:53:13am

re: #292 Jay C

OK, I will freely admit to grossly inadequate knowledge of the engineering/physics of the issue, but isn’t the main problem of auto emissions in an urban (I.e. lots of stop-and-go driving at relatively slow speeds) the fuel used (burned), and the comparison should be between fossil-fuel vehicles vs. electric ones. Period.
Not having an electric car, I have no idea how usage is affected by stop-and-go vs steady-speed driving. Do EVs use more juice on startup the way gas do?

Anecdote: despite (what I would imagine to be.) the advantages , I have seen (and ridden in) just one electric taxi here in NY. A Tesla Mod 3, which makes a terrible cab (almost no room in the back)

Well, it takes power to accelerate. Of course one has to ask where did that electricity come from? Coal plant? Solar?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:53:19am

re: #286 JOE 🥓

Nothing like the fuel economy you would have gotten with the Ford Nucleon!

That was quite an interesting article, on “let’s give every yahoo a nuclear power plant; nothing could go wrong with that.”

That lead me to a different article at The Drive (June 17, 2021):

America Almost Made a New Route 66 With 22 Nuclear Bombs

Nukes were invented as weapons of war. But for a time, the U.S. government had another goal in mind: building highways.

I suppose if you drive fast enough you could avoid all that pesky radiation.

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:54:41am

re: #291 austin_blue

He’s certainly wearing a killer suit.

I see what you did there…

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lawhawk  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:55:53am

re: #298 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Atoms for Peace…

Nuking canals and roads into existence… until scientists and public realized that you’d be creating a toxic wasteland for generations to come and irradiating everyone downwind.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:58:19am

re: #279 Belafon

Gunter may have the greatest avatar on Twitter.

As a man, I can’t find the dot over the j .

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:58:29am

re: #297 Rightwingconspirator

Well, it takes power to accelerate. Of course one has to ask where did that electricity come from? Coal plant? Solar?

In Illinois, it could be nuclear — which theoretically should be considered a “green” energy, shouldn’t it?

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 9, 2021 • 9:59:45am

re: #291 austin_blue

He’s certainly wearing a killer suit.

Like Buffalo Bill.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:02:08am

re: #296 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If you look at the other pics in that article, that suit is far too big on him. Like it was tailored 25 pounds ago.

Whatever the reason behind it, he’s certainly losing weight pretty quick. I do wonder if there’s some health condition there, because that’s some exceptionally fast weight loss.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:03:09am

The church bell has been tolling a long time. Here that generally indicates a funeral.

I’ve been holed up at home for several days, so I’m not aware of any deaths. I usually attend every funeral here.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:03:38am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

In Illinois, it could be nuclear — which theoretically should be considered a “green” energy, shouldn’t it?

It should, but is not. Waste disposal issues.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:04:07am

re: #301 BlueSpotinAL

As a man, I can’t find the dot over the j .

LOL.

You just need a map and a flashlight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:04:20am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

In Illinois, it could be nuclear — which theoretically should be considered a “green” energy, shouldn’t it?

Nuclear energy is indeed CO2-emissions free.

But it comes with another price tag that is potentially as big or bigger.

Chernobyl was estimated to have cost $20bn to clean up

Fukushima nearly ten times that amount.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:06:52am

re: #287 Dopamine Fish

Of course I do, and I cook when I can, but sometimes she refuses to let me cook.

DING DING DING. Becky was like that. There were only a few “specialty” meals she would let me cook. Other than those, it was stay the hell out of my her kitchen. It only got worse after I started transitioning. Something, something There can only be one when it came to the kitchen.

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Nojay UK  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:07:35am

re: #300 lawhawk

Atoms for Peace…

Nuking canals and roads into existence… until scientists and public realized that you’d be creating a toxic wasteland for generations to come and irradiating everyone downwind.

The US fired off about two hundred nuclear weapons aboveground in Nevada and Arizona over a period of about 20 years or so. Toxic wasteland, not so much (the original Trinity test site is a tourist attraction today). Irradiating everyone downwind, well the entire mid-West and area east of the Mississippi got fallout but no perceptible ill-effects, statistically speaking in an era of ubiquitous cigarette smoking and leaded petrol. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were never evacuated or abandoned after they were nuked in 1945 and today they are thriving metropolises (I’ve visited both of them, nice places. I recommend the okonomiyaki in Hiroshima).

The Project Plowshare concepts were not that dangerous radiologically speaking but they didn’t add up — being able to dig an instant harbour on the coast somewhere with a single nuke was a neat idea but if there wasn’t a harbour there already there weren’t the roads, rail lines, port towns, shipyards etc. that a real harbour needs to be useful.

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JC1  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:08:50am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nuclear energy is indeed CO2-emissions free.

But it comes with another price tag that is potentially as big or bigger.

Chernobyl was estimated to have cost $20bn to clean up

Fukushima nearly ten times that amount.

Need to migrate to gen IV reactors.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:13:10am

re: #309 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

DING DING DING. Becky was like that. There were only a few “specialty” meals she would let me cook. Other than those, it was stay the hell out of my her kitchen. It only got worse after I started transitioning. Something, something There can only be one when it came to the kitchen.

Same with my wife. My job is clean up.

Boy can she throw a string of invective when things aren’t going right for her though. Last night she was using her old 1940’s pressure cooker for barley. The safety valve popped for some reason. #!?@!!

We inherited the pressure cooker with the house; the elderly lady who owned it before us apparently hadn’t used in years for the same reason. My wife tracked down the company in India, and it turns out they are still in business, and still make replacement safety valves and rubber seals for this model, so she ordered replacements for both.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:15:06am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #310 Nojay UK

It’s a terrible irony to observe nuclear detonations leave less radioactive aftermath than reactors do. Nagasaki population about a half million. Chernobyl? 500.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:17:05am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nuclear energy is indeed CO2-emissions free.

But it comes with another price tag that is potentially as big or bigger.

Chernobyl was estimated to have cost $20bn to clean up

Fukushima nearly ten times that amount.

Chernobyl was bad design and incompetence. But despite the costs associated with nuclear power, climate change is not one of them — and the costs of fossil fuels are underestimated by ignoring the catastrophic effects of climate change. Nuclear fission could be a stop gap measure until other technologies are developed. And aren’t there improved plants available since the last one was constructed here?

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:21:35am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Same with my wife. My job is clean up.

Boy can she throw a string of invective when things aren’t going right for her though. Last night she was using her old 1940’s pressure cooker for barley. The safety valve popped for some reason. #!?@!!

We inherited the pressure cooker with the house; the elderly lady who owned it before us apparently hadn’t used in years for the same reason. My wife tracked down the company in India, and it turns out they are still in business, and still make replacement safety valves and rubber seals for this model, so she ordered replacements for both.

My grandmother had on of those. She refused to let any of us kids in the kitchen when it was in use. She would take it down to the church kitchen at the start of every canning season and have it tested, but still considered them to be too dangerous to use around kids. Those things are killers if not treated with the upmost respect.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:22:31am

re: #314 Hecuba’s daughter

Even when nothing goes seriously wrong, we do not have a good answer to how to dispose of all that stuff that becomes radioactive, nor the spent fuel rods. That stuff? It’s a lot of it. Every metal or liquid that gets near the fuel or reaction becomes a mess.

I don’t sound like it but I’m a proponent of nuclear power. Some of that climate change money will be spent to try and solve this one. And yes there are designs being tested that look much better than Three Mile Island or San Onofre.

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jeffreyw  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:23:21am

re: #270 darthstar

You haven’t lived until you’ve tried my athlete’s foot risotto.

I’ve tried several recipes for that but they all tend to burn my toes. Not recommended.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:25:11am

re: #315 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

I inherited one from my grammy. One look at it and I trashed it and got an Instant Pot. 😅

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:27:45am

re: #314 Hecuba’s daughter

Nuclear fission could be a stop gap measure until other technologies are developed. And aren’t there improved plants available since the last one was constructed here?

No design is going to stand up to a tsunami or serious earth quake, not to mention any sort of terrorist or military attack…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:28:11am

re: #315 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

My grandmother had on of those. She refused to let any of us kids in the kitchen when it was in use. She would take it down to the church kitchen at the start of every canning season and have it tested, but still considered them to be too dangerous to use around kids. Those things are killers if not treated with the upmost respect.

This particular pressure cooker is not the typical kind you see in the USA. It looks very much like a flat pan with a locking lid.

We do have a “standard” pressure cooker as well, along with a pressure canner for harvest season.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:29:39am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This particular pressure cooker is not the typical kind you see in the USA. It looks very much like a flat pan with a locking lid.

We do have a “standard” pressure cooker as well, along with a pressure canner for harvest season.

My mom cans their garden produce every year. The sound of her ancient pressure canner is a very familiar one to me. Boy, that takes me back.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:34:32am

re: #321 Dopamine Fish

My mom cans their garden produce every year. The sound of her ancient pressure canner is a very familiar one to me. Boy, that takes me back.

[0:44]

The sound of a weighted canner when it reaches pressure

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:35:27am

re: #318 GlutenFreeJesus

I inherited one from my grammy. One look at it and I trashed it and got an Instant Pot. 😅

My mother inherited it after grandma passed. The old man took it out to the shop and bashed a hole in it so it could never be used again. That’s how dangerous he considered it to be.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:36:09am

re: #322 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[0:44]

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Video

Oh, man, I can smell the red pickles, sweet corn, tomatoes, and sweet peppers just listening to that sound.

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Nojay UK  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:39:09am

re: #316 Rightwingconspirator

Even when nothing goes seriously wrong, we do not have a good answer to how to dispose of all that stuff that becomes radioactive, nor the spent fuel rods. That stuff? It’s a lot of it. Every metal or liquid that gets near the fuel or reaction becomes a mess.

There isn’t a “lot of it”, and much of what nuclear waste there is isn’t very radioactive, in fact it can be less radioactive than stuff you can buy at Home Depot by the pallet-load.

Radioactivity of One Ton of Potassium Chloride

However if something has been used in the nuclear industry it’s automatically dangerous and must be handled with special precautions. If it’s not nuclear then help yourself, eat as much as you like! (Potassium chloride is used as a no-sodium salt substitute).

There’s a lot of myths and outright fabrications around radiation and nuclear materials, fuelled (and yes I did that deliberately) by works of outright fiction like Godzilla movies, The China Syndrome, Fallout 4 and most of what Greenpeace says on the subject. The reality is buried in dry scientific documents with copious footnotes that makes the reader fall asleep before the first appendix. No contest.

In other news the world is on track to dump another twelve billion tonnes of CO2 from fossil fuels into the atmosphere in 2021. It’s a quiet year thanks to COVID-19, it would have been maybe 14 billion tonnes otherwise. It’s not radioactive (much, there is some carbon-14 in there plus a shitload of radon gas from the mining and drilling involved) so no-one cares.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:40:37am

re: #323 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

My mother inherited it after grandma passed. The old man took it out to the shop and bashed a hole in it so it could never be used again. That’s how dangerous he considered it to be.

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Stop FEARING the Pressure Canner!!!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:41:53am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Same with my wife. My job is clean up.

Boy can she throw a string of invective when things aren’t going right for her though. Last night she was using her old 1940’s pressure cooker for barley. The safety valve popped for some reason. #!?@!!

We inherited the pressure cooker with the house; the elderly lady who owned it before us apparently hadn’t used in years for the same reason. My wife tracked down the company in India, and it turns out they are still in business, and still make replacement safety valves and rubber seals for this model, so she ordered replacements for both.

Memories of the time the pressure regulator was broken and Dad stuck a pencil in the pressure cooker saying that would work. Mom argued with him but Dad laid down the law.

The pencil was launched into orbit but was stopped when it put a hole in the kitchen ceiling…and there was a mess in the kitchen that Mom made Dad clean up!

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:46:46am

re: #327 JOE 🥓

Memories of the time the pressure regulator was broken and Dad stuck a pencil in the pressure cooker saying that would work. Mom argued with him but Dad laid down the law.

The pencil was launched into orbit but was stopped when it put a hole in the kitchen ceiling…and there was a mess in the kitchen that Mom made Dad clean up!

Never had an incident with the pressure cooker or the canner, but the Great Disposal Disaster of 2016 was a thing, and resulted in my mom getting a brand new, industrial strength kitchen disposal. I’m trying to remember if that was also the year the sump pump failed…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:47:17am

Man threatened by anti-maskers outside a school board meeting in Tennessee drives them off by saying his son has Covid-19. [10:04]

Dad threatened by anti-mask crowd says son has Covid-19

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plansbandc  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:49:12am

Cool pic of Zozobra from the field:

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No Malarkey!  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:49:23am

Cletus safari to Missouri to find out why people are anti-vaxxers.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:51:38am

re: #290 Dr Lizardo

Rolling coal! 3.5 roentgens! - not good, not bad.

Iirc, Ford also displayed a scale model of a nuclear powered tank at about the same time. This looked like an already obsolete Sherman with a lengthened engine deck. I think someone who knew how tanks operate took a look at it and said, “nope.”

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:53:11am
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ckkatz  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:54:05am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

An unfortunate transcription error. ;)

The backstory is that Arabic does not have a letter ‘p’. Softer ‘p’ sounds are translated to ‘f’, such as Palestine to Falastin.

Harder ‘p’ sounds are migrated to ‘b’. Want some Bebsi cola?

Family friends in Israel who fought in the War of Independence used to talk about choosing passwords that required a ‘p’ sound. Not sure how that worked out with Sephardi Jews.

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ckkatz  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:55:42am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

Throwing eggs - or rotten fruit - is a long-standing political tradition, not just in the US but worldwide. I’ve seen it done here in Czech Republic and other European countries, albeit rarely.
…snip…

Or, of course, in the US, also milkshakes…

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:57:36am

re: #289 JOE 🥓

Northrup is just another jerk that Oprah mainstreamed along with quacks Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz.

This is why I (perhaps hyperbolically) place Oprah among history’s greatest monsters.

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Teukka  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:58:31am

re: #290 Dr Lizardo

Rolling coal! 3.5 roentgens! - not good, not bad.

After engine fail:
It’s not 3.5 Roentgens… It’s 15,000!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:58:58am

re: #334 ckkatz

An unfortunate transcription error. ;)

The backstory is that Arabic does not have a letter ‘p’. Softer ‘p’ sounds are translated to ‘f’, such as Palestine to Falastin.

Palestine, Philistine

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 9, 2021 • 10:59:58am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

Cletus safari to Missouri to find out why people are anti-vaxxers.

SMH right in the opening “it’s almost like a plague.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 9, 2021 • 11:01:34am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

Whatever the reason behind it, he’s certainly losing weight pretty quick. I do wonder if there’s some health condition there, because that’s some exceptionally fast weight loss.

Especially as he was off the grid for a while and people were commenting that he was dying or had died. I think he’s sick, but I don’t really care.

Then again, his sister is supposed to be worse than him. So there’s that.

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ckkatz  Sep 9, 2021 • 11:03:43am

Another of tfg’s appointees fired by Biden:

From the WashPost article referenced:

Opinion: Meet the Trump saboteur in charge of undermining Biden — and America

…snip…
But what Russ Vought is very good at is sabotage. He’s sabotaging national security, the pandemic response and the economic recovery — all to make things more difficult for the incoming Biden administration. That he’s also sabotaging the country seems not to matter to Vought, who has spent nearly two decades as a right-wing bomb thrower.

He has blocked civil servants at OMB from cooperating with the Biden transition, denying President-elect Joe Biden the policy analysis and budget-preparation assistance given to previous presidents-elect, including Barack Obama and Trump himself. Transition figures warn that it will likely delay and hamper economic and pandemic relief and national security preparation (the Pentagon is the other key agency resisting transition cooperation with the incoming administration).
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He was a key figure in the Ukraine imbroglio, freezing military aid to the country as Trump pushed for Ukraine’s president to announce a probe of Joe and Hunter Biden and the Democrats. The Government Accountability Office determined the budgetary freeze violated the Impoundment Control Act. Vought also ignored a subpoena during the impeachment inquiry.
…snip…

(Lots more in the article on about Vought’s ideological warfare.)

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Nojay UK  Sep 9, 2021 • 11:04:03am

re: #313 Rightwingconspirator

It’s a terrible irony to observe nuclear detonations leave less radioactive aftermath than reactors do. Nagasaki population about a half million. Chernobyl? 500.

Actually nukes spread a lot more radioactive material around than the worst power plant accidents. The US above-ground nuclear tests dumped about 5 tonnes of plutonium and uranium-235 across the centre of the continental United States between 1945 and 1962 as well as tens of kilogrammes of fission products. The thermonuclear tests in the Pacific were worse, 150 megatonnes of detonations resulting in the entire ocean being polluted with Cs-134 and Cs-137 among other fission products.

The three reactors at Fukushima which exploded in 2011 released about 5 kilogrammes of fission products, much of which was short-lived isotopes like I-131 (half-life 8.5 days) which was very radioactive for a short time before it was gone.

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sagehen  Sep 9, 2021 • 11:06:58am

re: #334 ckkatz

An unfortunate transcription error. ;)

The backstory is that Arabic does not have a letter ‘p’. Softer ‘p’ sounds are translated to ‘f’, such as Palestine to Falastin.

Harder ‘p’ sounds are migrated to ‘b’. Want some Bebsi cola?

Family friends in Israel who fought in the War of Independence used to talk about choosing passwords that required a ‘p’ sound. Not sure how that worked out with Sephardi Jews.

so…Shibboleth didn’t work?

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ckkatz  Sep 9, 2021 • 11:15:59am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Palestine, Philistine

The connection is indeed there, made by the Romans in their version of Latin. I do not remember if they had the ‘f’ or not.

Following the suppression of Bar Kokhba’s revolt, the emperor Hadrian changed the name of the province to Syria Palaestina and Jerusalem became Aelia Capitolina. Most scholars, including Hayim Hillel Ben-Sasson believe this was done to erase the historical ties of the Jewish people to the region.

Judaea (Roman province)
en.wikipedia.org

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ckkatz  Sep 9, 2021 • 11:18:42am

re: #343 sagehen

so…Shibboleth didn’t work?

Good point!

Nor even sibboleth (The Ephraimite dialect that betrayed them.)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 9, 2021 • 11:45:26am

re: #270 darthstar

You haven’t lived until you’ve tried my athlete’s foot risotto.

Lots is parmesan I suppose.


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