Today, President Biden announced new actions at curbing the pandemic and reducing the risk of further covid variants emerging. #Colbert #Comedy #Monologue
The pro-disease mob has been reduced to its indivisible core of reason-rejecting suicide troops. They will have to be shoved, pushed and perhaps blasted out of the way for this to succeed. No more appeals to sweet reason or even self interest. You might as well try reasoning with a pack of hyenas who want your fresh carcass for lunch.
President Biden is kicking ass and naming names.
Frum noticed this as well:
If I were a Republican candidate in 2022, I would want to talk about food prices, crime, border security
Instead Biden just enflamed the Republican base to the point where Republican candidates have little choice but to champion the right to infect.— David Frum (@davidfrum) September 10, 2021
Did I mention how great it was to see President Biden finally start taking it to the right wing noise machine? All it took was a global pandemic.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2021
The GOP have sided with covid19 and against public health and safety.
The GOP have sided with antivaxxers and against life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (because you can’t pursue any of those when you’re dying in an ICU hooked up to machines that make you breathe because you can’t do it yourself thanks to covid).
The GOP aren’t pro life, and they’ve removed all doubt by siding with antivaxxers and claiming that they’ll fight Biden’s vaccination mandates/requirements.
The GOP will ignore the facts and the laws, which include explicit vaccination mandates for other communicable diseases that are far less dangerous at the moment than covid.
For instance, Utah’s idiot governor claims that he’s going to take action against Biden’s vaccination mandates, all while Utah itself mandates vaccinations for all students entering K-12, the University of Utah mandates vaccinations to attend, etc. Every state has vaccination requirements for students. Covid is just one more.
re: #5 lawhawk
It’s the fucked up political climate we’re living in (Thanks Fox News!). That’s the only explanation as to why THIS particular vaccine is causing such a ruckus.
re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s the fucked up political climate we’re living in (Thanks Fox News!). That’s the only explanation as to why THIS particular vaccine is causing such a ruckus.
We all know damn well that if Trump was still President, he would be pushing this vaccine super hard, and states would be happy to mandate it. The vaccine itself is still the same substance; the only thing different would be the party in power. There is literally no reason to oppose the vaccine unless your only goal is to fuck with the Democratic administration.
re: #7 Dopamine Fish
Ehhh, I’m not confident he’d be pushing vaccines that hard.
re: #7 Dopamine Fish
We all know damn well that if Trump was still President, he would be pushing this vaccine super hard, and states would be happy to mandate it. The vaccine itself is still the same substance; the only thing different would be the party in power. There is literally no reason to oppose the vaccine unless your only goal is to fuck with the Democratic administration.
Actually, he wouldn’t and they wouldn’t. Liberal states would be scrambling to get their hands on the vaccine, and therefore Trump would declare it a liberal hoax, all while using FEMA to confiscate any vaccines acquired by those states. He would then send it to Florida, Missouri, and Texas, where it would go to waste in the rural areas that are receiving ten times the amount of vaccine they need.
re: #5 lawhawk
The GOP have sided with covid19 and against public health and safety.
The GOP have sided with antivaxxers and against life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (because you can’t pursue any of those when you’re dying in an ICU hooked up to machines that make you breathe because you can’t do it yourself thanks to covid).
The GOP aren’t pro life, and they’ve removed all doubt by siding with antivaxxers and claiming that they’ll fight Biden’s vaccination mandates/requirements.
The GOP will ignore the facts and the laws, which include explicit vaccination mandates for other communicable diseases that are far less dangerous at the moment than covid.
For instance, Utah’s idiot governor claims that he’s going to take action against Biden’s vaccination mandates, all while Utah itself mandates vaccinations for all students entering K-12, the University of Utah mandates vaccinations to attend, etc. Every state has vaccination requirements for students. Covid is just one more.
I’m done with that lot. I am ready for Biden to come out and DEMAND that every American breathe oxygen just to get rid of a bunch of them.
After a post denouncing Biden as a tyrant and accusing those of us who called TFG a tyrant of hypocrisy, my Trumpster FB friend now a new post: claiming Biden’s speech was a distraction from Afghanistan. Is this a new thing from Noisemax or did she come up with it on her own?
I heard a talking head on NPR yesterday after this speech say that those who have been totally opposed to Biden (and common sense) were not even listening. Biden was talking to HIS base.
re: #11 b.d. (GOP-Shut up, get the jab & shut up again)
I’m done with that lot. I am ready for Biden to come out and DEMAND that every American breathe oxygen just to get rid of a bunch of them.
Key and Peele did a funny skit once where Obama was purposefully proposing things Conservatives were in favor of, because he knew they would not want to be seen to agree with him on anything and so would have to publicly support the opposite (i.e. the more liberal stance) to keep their GOP cred.
re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg
Ehhh, I’m not confident he’d be pushing vaccines that hard.
depends on how much he had secretly invested in the pharma companies
re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg
Ehhh, I’m not confident he’d be pushing vaccines that hard.
My reasoning is that he would have a vested interest in “fixing” COVID under his Presidency, thus securing his place as a national hero (and basically, in his head, letting him do whatever the fuck he wants). Notice that he stopped talking up Operation Warp Speed and the ongoing vaccine development as soon as it became obvious that he was no longer going to be President.
re: #7 Dopamine Fish
We all know damn well that if Trump was still President, he would be pushing this vaccine super hard, and states would be happy to mandate it. The vaccine itself is still the same substance; the only thing different would be the party in power. There is literally no reason to oppose the vaccine unless your only goal is to fuck with the Democratic administration.
Maybe, but he recently tried to save the maniacs who provide his narcissistic supply, and had to switch to derping about free-dumb, really epic stupidity, to get them cheering again.
re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth
depends on how much he had secretly invested in the pharma companies
Touche.
re: #13 retired cynic
I heard a talking head on NPR yesterday after this speech say that those who have been totally opposed to Biden (and common sense) were not even listening. Biden was talking to HIS base.
This is likely (and quite unfortunately) true: As with David Frum’s Tweet above, while the anti-vacc/COVID-denial position may be an “unpopular” stance with the public as a whole, the puerile oppositional defiance to - well, reality - is insanely popular with a large-enough minority bloc to make it a serious issue wrt to dealing with the pandemic. Which, of course, affects everybody.
From Downstairs:
re: #318 Belafon
This song has its own en.wikipedia.org page:
So Dave has just always been into disco, he just knew what paid the bills.
Dave hasn’t really hidden it, and has been pretty damn open about his influences from what I know.
we all steal drums. this is crazy tho pic.twitter.com/QLwZRdPkyC
— TERRANCE OUT NOW (@tcarriermusic) July 1, 2021
re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth
depends on how much he had secretly invested in the pharma companies
Jared and Ivanka would have probably invested it all in Theranos…..
re: #13 retired cynic
I heard a talking head on NPR yesterday after this speech say that those who have been totally opposed to Biden (and common sense) were not even listening. Biden was talking to HIS base.
Biden was talking to everyone because he would like the pandemic to end. Those who know the pandemic exists heard his message because they also want it to end.
That’s a fundamental difference between Biden and Obama, and Bush and Trump. Democrat presidents are presidents to the whole country. Republican presidents are presidents to 45% of the country.
re: #3 ckkatz
I remember when David Frum was a wingnut. Has the Overton Window moved that much?
re: #24 Romantic Heretic
I remember when David Frum was a wingnut. Has the Overton Window moved that much?
Not really. We’re just at the point where we have slightly different levels of wingnuts, mainly Trump humpers and non-Trump humping Conservatives who are still terrible people.
re: #24 Romantic Heretic
I remember when David Frum was a wingnut. Has the Overton Window moved that much?
The Overton “window” now looks like stained glass. Ya got the Q guys, the hard-core anti gov guys, the Trump GOP guys. And the “establishment” guys, that only recently started needing quotes around the word.
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
Yeah.
The weird thing about Frum though is that his mother was a major liberal media figure up here in Canada. I guess being born in privilege kept him from becoming the same.
re: #27 Romantic Heretic
Yes, I remember watching Barbara Frum interview celebrities and politicians on the CBC. She appeared to be a nice person. Kind of shocked that her son is so rightwing although I’ve read that Susan Rice’s son is also a Rightwinger.
re: #24 Romantic Heretic
My take is that he, and a number of other conservatives abandoned the Republican Party when it became both a personality cult and an authoritarian party. What caught my eye was his tweet back in 2017 that a large group of his colleagues, if given a choice between abandoning their values or rejecting democracy, would reject democracy.
I may not agree with his policy choices, and reject a number outright. But I do agree with his choice to place democracy as the priority value.
This, to me, goes directly to the central value in life, the Golden Rule. A value that is rejected by many in the GOP right now. (And which is pointed out in various restatements, such as “Laws bind thee and protect me”.
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
Not really. We’re just at the point where we have slightly different levels of wingnuts, mainly Trump humpers and non-Trump humping Conservatives who are still terrible people.
Wasn’t David Frum more of a neocon — you know in John Bolton mold — who didn’t really support (or maybe care about) GOP domestic issues but was eager to spread democracy elsewhere? So neither Trump nor Biden would be good in FP terms, but he would be opposed to the Trump domestic agenda and very opposed to the Trump attacks on democracy.
Wen you even have David French and the Doughy Pant-load.
In conclusion, I can’t say it better than @JonahDispatch did below. Get vaccinated. Please. pic.twitter.com/GoUP5KFBZc
— David French (@DavidAFrench) September 10, 2021
re: #30 Hecuba’s daughter
Wasn’t David Frum more of a neocon — you know in John Bolton mold — who didn’t really support (or maybe care about) GOP domestic issues but was eager to spread democracy elsewhere? So neither Trump nor Biden would be good in FP terms, but he would be opposed to the Trump domestic agenda and very opposed to the Trump attacks on democracy.
Yes, Frum made a name for himself as a Bush (The shrub) speechwriter. I have always viewed the Bush clan a a more polished and less needy (but just as greedy) version of Trump. (You do not get to be a clan of multi-billionaires by caring about anyone else.)
re: #29 ckkatz
Minor edit:
My take is that he, and a number of other conservatives abandoned the Republican Party when it became both a personality cult and an authoritarian party. What caught my eye was his tweet back in 2017 that a large group of his colleagues, if given a choice between abandoning their
valuespositions of political power or rejecting democracy, would reject democracy.
re: #22 Jay C
Jared and Ivanka would have probably invested it all in Theranos…..
because they’re the “smart ones”…
Chocolate Chip Cookies 🍪 #ShabbatShalom pic.twitter.com/fikexxN43r
— Liddle Honey Apple Pie 🌈🍯🍎🥧 (@Pie_Overlord) September 10, 2021
re: #31 Dave In Austin
The carrot has been tried. At this point we’re dealing with the hardcore lunatics. The mad trashy 30% of Americans who can’t ever do the right thing. People who choose to suffer and die to try to harm our nation, rather than get a simple vaccine like rational people have done.
— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) September 10, 2021
re: #33 Jay C
Minor edit:
I believe that you are correct. Thank you for that fix. Here is the quote:
“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”—David Frum
President Biden gave them a choice. If they don’t want to be vaccinated, they can test weekly instead. Any other objections to trying to save thousands of lives?
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) September 10, 2021
Tell that to Savita Halappanavar. Oh wait you can’t, because she died from sepsis before Irish doctors were allowed to perform an abortion to save her life.
From @thelilynews: Byron Calhoun says abortion is never necessary to save a mother’s life. He’s the only high-risk OB/GYN in central West Virginia. https://t.co/h2wgqscfr3
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 10, 2021
re: #22 Jay C
Jared and Ivanka would have probably invested it all in Theranos…..
They probably would have smelled the BS grift from a mile away. It takes one to know one.
Well, I chose to delete the horrible tweet that hurt some poor Neo-Confederate’s Fee-Fees. 6 and 1/2 days of suspension left. Feh.
re: #32 ckkatz
Yes, Frum made a name for himself as a Bush (The shrub) speechwriter. I have always viewed the Bush clan a a more polished and less needy (but just as greedy) version of Trump. (You do not get to be a clan of multi-billionaires by caring about anyone else.)
Bush clan are millionaires, not billionaires. And there are a whole range of issues on which they differ from Trump: they are very interventionist in FP, they were pro-immigration, they were not racist or sexist, Bush got legislation to provide coverage for pharmaceuticals. When it comes to the economy and taxation and Roe v Wade, Trump and Bush would march in lockstep; on other policies, not so much.
re: #39 The Pie Overlord!
That’s an interesting claim of medical fact. I wonder how it relates to the official approach of his certifying organization.
Neigh!
Weeks of pointless arguing over how media elites should talk about Ivermectin absolutely smoked by Ben Garrison’s stance: Yeah it’s horse medicine — and we like that about it. pic.twitter.com/4tpd2NOOUg
— willy 💧 (@willystaley) September 10, 2021
re: #40 JC1
They probably would have smelled the BS grift from a mile away. It takes one to know one.
Probably true, but then again, they’re a Trump and a Trump-adjacent: squeezing bucks out of BS grifts (one way or another) - and dumping the liability on somebody else is second nature to them….
re: #41 William Lewis
Well, I chose to delete the horrible tweet that hurt some poor Neo-Confederate’s Fee-Fees. 6 and 1/2 days of suspension left. Feh.
After my last account got banned on Twitter (I think I had 4 total banned) for going after those types of assholes I just said fuck it and haven’t created a new one. Twitter, as well as Facebook as we all know, are festering piles of flaming shit with rules made up on a day to day basis and only applied selectively.
re: #44 Dave In Austin
Neigh!
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Merck should make a commercial pointing out that they make ivermectin.
re: #41 William Lewis
Well, I chose to delete the horrible tweet that hurt some poor Neo-Confederate’s Fee-Fees. 6 and 1/2 days of suspension left. Feh.
I held off on accepting my timeout until this morning, but I already have full access to Twitter, which is bullshit. I want my 12 hour lockout while I’m awake!
I have been thinking about the school board meetings, the lady coughing at people at the store, the Proud Boys, etc, and one of the things all of us nice people don’t really know is how far are we actually allowed to go to deal with these people. Can I punch the lady for coughing on me? Can we get up and block the aggressors that show up at school board meetings?
re: #39 The Pie Overlord!
Tell that to Savita Halappanavar. Oh wait you can’t, because she died from sepsis before Irish doctors were allowed to perform an abortion to save her life.
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I suppose ectopic pregnancies are another one of those medial hoaxes, right? ///////
re: #13 retired cynic
I heard a talking head on NPR yesterday after this speech say that those who have been totally opposed to Biden (and common sense) were not even listening. Biden was talking to HIS base.
Biden was also talking as an employer to his staff
Fine, President Biden gave them the option to get tested weekly instead.
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) September 10, 2021
re: #49 Belafon
I have been thinking about the school board meetings, the lady coughing at people at the store, the Proud Boys, etc, and one of the things all of us nice people don’t really know is how far are we actually allowed to go to deal with these people. Can I punch the lady for coughing on me? Can we get up and block the aggressors that show up at school board meetings?
If you punch any lady, you are likely to cool off in a cell. Identifying these people and notifying their employers seems to work well. I’d like to use a lasso pole like those used on dangerous animals to drag them out of the school board meeting and kick the shit out of them in the parking lot, but it’s better to let exposure ruin them.
re: #13 retired cynic
I heard a talking head on NPR yesterday after this speech say that those who have been totally opposed to Biden (and common sense) were not even listening. Biden was talking to HIS base.
They don’t have to agree. They just have to comply. Or get tested weekly. Or become unemployed. He’s not fucking around with them anymore.
Thufferin’ thuccotash! https://t.co/1mmOkmOvfp
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2021
re: #49 Belafon
I have been thinking about the school board meetings, the lady coughing at people at the store, the Proud Boys, etc, and one of the things all of us nice people don’t really know is how far are we actually allowed to go to deal with these people. Can I punch the lady for coughing on me? Can we get up and block the aggressors that show up at school board meetings?
Until something like the lady purposely coughing on people in the grocery store is considered assault and/or attempted murder/manslaughter there probably isn’t much you can do as retaliation. I’ve always been of the opinion that if these fucking people love Stand Your Ground laws so much it would be a shame if someone stood their ground against their blatant assault.
re: #49 Belafon
If someone coughs on me, I will do everything in my power to beat the absolute living shit out of them. I’m so not kidding.
re: #57 plansbandc
If someone coughs on me, I will do everything in my power to beat the absolute living shit out of them. I’m so not kidding.
That’s more exposure and an assault and battery charge. Don’t do it. I can maintain six feet of social distancing if I tip my head up while kicking a downed plague rat, and I’m not going to do it.
The vaccines work. But House Moderna rules!
The Moderna vaccine is moderately more effective at preventing hospitalizations, according to another CDC study, though all three vaccines show continued efficacy. https://t.co/mrA2RkdiVo
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 10, 2021
Here comes mRNA for kids.
nbcnews.com
re: #60 Rightwingconspirator
Here comes mRNA for kids.
nbcnews.com
YESSSS! Finally, my nightmare scenario is almost over!
My favorite snarky Canadian is back with a new cult movie review, this time, Runaway, starring Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons, a sci-fi/police procedural from 1984, written and directed by Michael Crichton.
Runaway went on to be a staple of 1980s and early ’90s basic cable. Both Selleck and Simmons turned in good performances, though the film itself got bogged down in cliches. The film did accurately predict things like domestic robots, video mail, social media, the Internet, voice-activated computers, biometric security (retinal identification), camera drones, tablet PCs, wireless headsets, and that police officers would use semi-automatic pistols as standard sidearms (in 1984, most police officers were using revolvers).
Overall, not a bad film really - an interesting premise that could’ve been better executed and the spider robots were perhaps the most memorable thing about this flick. One of those films that could be successfully remade with the right screenplay and a solid director.
re: #38 No Malarkey!
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Do what I say or else…” is tyrannical
tyrannical?
Bullshit
Its how enforcement of laws works
re: #59 No Malarkey!
The vaccines work. But House Moderna rules!
Excellent. Getting the Moderna vaccine had nothing to do with choices I made, and getting vaccinated is so obvious that it was hardly a choice, so I’m glad that I’m lucky enough to have received the Moderna vaccine when I got vaccinated at Walgreens.
re: #44 Dave In Austin
Neigh!
Looks like ivermectin doesn’t work to get rid of brain worms, just gives one shit for brains
There are Americans who get most of their “news” from grifting preachers, and if they access something called “news,” it’ll be trash like New Smax, the opiate of the derp-right, or OAN. They’re killing themselves and other morons.
Report this ass for COVID disinformation if you feel like it.
No, it’s not. You have no idea what you’re talking about, and if anyone is dumb enough to believe you, you’ve done that poor soul great harm. A lot of willfully-ignorant Conservatives are now dying thanks to this kind of disinformation. Religion is no substitute for vaccines.
— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) September 10, 2021
re: #44 Dave In Austin
Neigh!
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The thing that is amazing about this is they talk about this being a money grab for the pharmaceutical industry…except the vax is free.
re: #68 Punish Domestic Terrorists
There are Americans who get most of their “news” from grifting preachers, and if they access something called “news,” it’ll be trash like New Smax, the opiate of the derp-right, or OAN. They’re killing themselves and other morons.
No, it’s not. You have no idea what you’re talking about, and if anyone is dumb enough to believe you, you’ve done that poor soul great harm. A lot of willfully-ignorant Conservatives are now dying thanks to this kind of disinformation. Religion is no substitute for vaccines.
— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) September 10, 2021
Given that the largest group that are unvaccinatable are children, this GregD’s Lord is obviously Moloch.
re: #69 Mike Lamb
The thing that is amazing about this is they talk about this being a money grab for the pharmaceutical industry…except the vax is free.
I think the government is paying for it, so they do make money, but the alternative to what they call a “money grab” is to spend a lot more on medical care, ending in death for too many.
re: #68 Punish Domestic Terrorists
There are Americans who get most of their “news” from grifting preachers, and if they access something called “news,” it’ll be trash like New Smax, the opiate of the derp-right, or OAN. They’re killing themselves and other morons.
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For stupidity
re: #69 Mike Lamb
The thing that is amazing about this is they talk about this being a money grab for the pharmaceutical industry…except the vax is free.
They are paid by the purchasing government(s) for the vaccine, so it’s not like the manufacturers are taking it in the shorts here. However, they have waived patent enforcement for the duration of the pandemic, in the interest of ensuring sufficient supply, so at least in that area, they aren’t making as much money as they could.
re: #70 aatharuv
Given that the largest group that are unvaccinatable are children, this GregD’s Lord is obviously Moloch.
Who names their kid Gregson?
A new UC Berkeley poll finds California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) is likely to retain his office and defeat the recall election next week by more than 20 points, 60% to 39% among likely voters.
In case anybody needed confirmation that Texas is nothing but assholes all the way down:
Also:
This footnote is some spectacular culture warrior action from the 5th. A cheap and entirely unnecessary anti-trans shot. pic.twitter.com/KY5O4zNJte— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) September 10, 2021
re: #73 Dopamine Fish
They are paid by the purchasing government(s) for the vaccine, so it’s not like the manufacturers are taking it in the shorts here. However, they have waived patent enforcement for the duration of the pandemic, in the interest of ensuring sufficient supply, so at least in that area, they aren’t making as much money as they could.
I get that, but these chuckleheads aren’t coming out of pocket like is being implied.
re: #50 Citizen K
I suppose ectopic pregnancies are another one of those medial hoaxes, right? ///////
Someone should ask him if he ever removed an ectopic pregnancy and squirted it into the womb to reattach itself (SCIENCE FACT: that is not possible).
re: #76 Dangerman
That’s good news but everyone should still vote. And if you know anyone who isn’t registered to vote in California does same day registration.
re: #78 Mike Lamb
I get that, but these chuckleheads aren’t coming out of pocket like is being implied.
No, and obviously also it’s not like these manufacturers are making bank on these vaccines. They make so many other, more profitable medicines, and there is a PR advantage to basically selling this at cost or close to it for as long as COVID is still a problem.
re: #58 Punish Domestic Terrorists
I agree with you.
My reasoning is that I want to minimize my time (and money) around a jerk. Doing something that brings in the courts is going to cost me more time and money.
Further, there seems to be an infinite amount of jerks out there and a limited amount of me. Involving myself in educating one is not going to make a dent in the supply of jerks. But will make a significant dent in my life.
For one attorney’s viewpoint:
Generally self-defense allows you to use only the amount of force reasonably necessary to deal with the threat. What’s the reasonable amount of force necessary to handle someone following you and coughing on you? Probably a shove at most unless they then keep following you. https://t.co/yLhcvd3JlM
— ArrestFutureCriminalsHat (@Popehat) September 7, 2021
re: #76 Dangerman
That matches my gut feeling. I was in CA when the Gray Davis recall happened, and Newsom IMO has never had the kind of negatives that Davis ended up with.
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