New Music From Pat Metheny: “It Starts When We Disappear”

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The new Pat Metheny album takes off with a Metheny composition called “It Starts When We Disappear.” Now available everywhere: patmetheny.lnk.to

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1
Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 11:38:59am

There’s a movie out called Fauci about the good doctor: m.imdb.com

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2021 • 11:57:05am

I’ve started trying to write something about the 9/11 20th several times, but I can’t seem to find words. Everything I write just seems glib and obvious.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2021 • 11:58:51am

From previous string:re:

#187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my oldest daughter was not quite three years old at the time.

I recall her the next day asking, “Are we going to watch that show where they fly planes into buildings again?”

My older daughter was 23 at the time. It was she who alerted me to the attacks. I was up but the TV was not on and I had not quite gotten around to checking the net, which would have flooded me with news instantly. She had arrived for work at the Sears Tower in Chicago and called to tell me that the building was being evacuated, “because of the plane crashes in New York.” I said, “Huh? What? Crashes, like more than one?” She explained and I turned the TV on to see the first tower collapse. I checked the net and thought, oh shit, this is going to be a big deal. I spent part of the day trying to calm people down and clarify the situation, to the extent that I understood it myself, for them. I knew we had taken a big hit, but nowhere close to fatal, and there would be a big response. My younger daughter asked me if I would be going back into the Army (I had retired the previous year). I told her I might, depending on the requirements of the situation. Osama bin Laden and AQ were not definitely identified as the perpetrators for several days, but they were suspect #1 from the beginning, at least to anyone who knew about recent history. I envisioned a worldwide attack on the Al Qaeda gang itself, perhaps brutally forceful, but not the invasion and occupation of whole countries. I reckoned without the ambition and duplicity of the Bush/Cheney gang and the legion of new-fangled “services contractors” who were waiting in the wings to cash in.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:07:36pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:10:06pm

CNN, 20 years and some odd minutes ago, a pretty good summary of what was known at that point:

Terror attacks hit U.S.

September 11, 2001 Posted: 2:28 p.m. EDT (1828 GMT)

• NEW YORK (CNN) — Terrorists struck the United States Tuesday morning in harrowing, widespread attacks that included at least three commercial jet crashes into significant buildings.

• In the first attack, a plane hit the north tower of the World Trade Center in Manhattan shortly before 9 a.m., followed by another plane into the second tower about 20 minutes later. Both towers later collapsed.

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Nojay UK  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:17:09pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I happened to be staying in Atlanta with friends when 9/11 happened. I missed my flight home, not surprisingly so I went to an anime convention at the weekend. Talking to some folks, with my Dunning-Kreuger expertise from thirty years seeing reports of IRA attacks on the TV I said “You guys (Americans) are going to go bugfuck nuts for six months then hopefully you’ll start thinking rationally about this.”

I was wrong.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:20:02pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I’ve started trying to write something about the 9/11 20th several times, but I can’t seem to find words. Everything I write just seems glib and obvious.

Let it be. We all carry our own stuff.

But I (we) still love ya anyway.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:23:52pm

I was at work in Valley Forge PA when a co-worker came in and plopped down into her chair. I asked her if traffic was that bad. She replied the a plane flew into the World Trade Center. I was the only person on the floor who had a radio and I turned it on to the all news radio station (KYW 1060 AM). Another person had internet access so he went to several news sites and found pictures and a tape of what happened. We were sent home and the roads were jammed. Fortunately I used mostly back roads so I got home in roughly about an hour. My dad called to make sure I was okay. I told him I was. My dad like then Gov Ridge was angry but he knew there was nothing he could do about it. I watched a local station that had a feed from the BBC. They were angry and upset too. I remember seeing Queen Elizabeth go into Westminster Abbey and the Star Spangled Banner being played instead of G-d Save the Queen. There were many people interviewed and one of them was Ehud Barak the former Defense Minister of Israel. He he said that America is going to have to check our backs whenever we go somewhere.

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KingKenrod  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:28:06pm

+1 Headline writer

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:31:26pm
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marcusgorillius  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:36:50pm

I was supposed to fly to the upper peninsula of Michigan to a job that day and walked over to my fathers house to say goodbye. As I walked in the door the phone rang and it was my sister, who said turn on the tv. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Needless to say I ended up driving to Michigan. Such a truly horrific and unforgettable day.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:36:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:41:52pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:45:46pm
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:45:46pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Typical sov-cit stuff - proposing a “fee schedule” for the privilege of getting their time.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:46:54pm

The only thing (not very) noteworthy about my personal 9/11 experience is that, at the time, I worked at a place very close to DFW International airport. There was air traffic overhead at all times, very noisy. But eventually you just got used to hearing it, and it became part of the background scenery.

But when all the fuckery happened and the FAA called a ground stop, the lack of aircraft noise suddenly became very noticeable and somehow made the whole situation seem more immediate and dangerous to us just a mile or so away from the airport. The quiet was just creepy as hell.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:48:04pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:49:41pm
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nines09  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:50:11pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Today reminds me of the individuals who ran towards the wreckage.
The cops and firemen and EMS.
Those who were lauded and celebrated as heroes. That is until the sickness and cancers and mental issues revealed themselves.
Many lost everything. Died horrible deaths.
And the GOP stood rank and file to deny those heroes and their families any help.
They had to rely upon the kindness of strangers.
The GOP got away with that. Paid no price.
Remember the turning away this nation did when it was time to put words into action.
See today as a lesson still unlearned.

Fuck the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:51:55pm

thread from a healthcare worker in Utah

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:51:59pm

Saw that MLB arranged for the Yankees to play the Mets this evening.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 12:58:02pm

Arizona won the World Series that year.

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:02:28pm

re: #16 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

The only thing (not very) noteworthy about my personal 9/11 experience is that, at the time, I worked at a place very close to DFW International airport. There was air traffic overhead at all times, very noisy. But eventually you just got used to hearing it, and it became part of the background scenery.

But when all the fuckery happened and the FAA called a ground stop, the lack of aircraft noise suddenly became very noticeable and somehow made the whole situation seem more immediate and dangerous to us just a mile or so away from the airport. The quiet was just creepy as hell.

Our building wasn’t quite as close to Sky Harbor at that time, but we were in the east flight path (the same flight path which would stop Mesa from putting up a proposed domed stadium a few years later) and the hard stop was fucking EERIE. That Thursday night my boyfriend and I were at a gas station in Tempe southeast of Sky Harbor and I started crying when I saw the lights of a freight plane landing at the airport.

Two days later (September 15), Balbir Sodhi Singh was murdered at his gas station a few miles away from where I’m sitting, part of a rampage by a fucked up guy wanting to kill “turbanheads.” en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:27:37pm

Articles from 2021:

Site includes links to news articles on GOP resistance to helping first responders from 2014-2021.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:41:58pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:44:50pm

I was a sophomore in college, asleep in my apartment, when the towers fell. My phone rang, it woke me up, I let it go to my answering machine (yeah, I had a land line, digital answering machine, cordless phone, the works). It was my neighbor and occasional snowboard buddy John from St. Louis. “Charlie. Wake up. Turn on your TV. We’re going to war. The World Trade Center is gone and the Pentagon’s being attacked.” It was like 8:30 a.m. MDT.

Later that day I took an American flag I had and held it unfurled in front of me upside down and marched up and down the quad. I took some shit from a few people, only because they didn’t know what it meant. Someone took a picture. It ended up on the front page of the student paper on campus (Western State College, now Western Colorado University in Gunnison, CO). I still have that paper somewhere, I think, I hope.

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dat_said  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:45:11pm

re: #23 mmmirele

I was in DC at the time at a large conference. It took about fifteen minutes to go from full conference room discussions on clinical trial results to conference shutdown.

I couldn’t stand being shut up in the hotel room and phones were down so I decided to walk the three miles to the National Cathedral. Very eerie and quiet with no traffic or people on the streets with the exception of a couple of escorted motorcades going to or from embassies. Couldn’t get into the Cathedral when I got there as it was in lockdown. I noticed a priest struggling to set up kneelers for an outdoor service and asked if he needed help. Those things must have weighed a couple hundred pounds and that workout was exactly what I needed at the time.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:47:34pm
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:49:43pm

Nothing like kicking back with a red solo cup of beer at nine in the morning.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:52:27pm

re: #28 jaunte

Paxton’s shit is anathema to taste 🤢🤮

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:54:12pm

Just slid the teriyake salmon & shiitakes into the oven. I added a bunch of broccoli florets to the pouch (I used foil insteaof the usual parchment because there was so much with the broccoli added).
Now we wait for 20 minutes.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:58:33pm

re: #30 Teukka

Paxton’s shit is anathema to taste 🤢🤮

Like, hypothetical line spoken by Paxton:
“Hey bro check out this painting of the last second before a plane is about to eviscerate these dudes at a water cooler” (stolen from a chat)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 1:58:49pm

jfc, looks like tfg inserted himself into a staged photo op

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:03:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:08:06pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:10:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:11:06pm

thread

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:11:44pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:17:07pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just slid the teriyake salmon & shiitakes into the oven. I added a bunch of broccoli florets to the pouch (I used foil insteaof the usual parchment because there was so much with the broccoli added).
Now we wait for 20 minutes.

Would you be so kind as to repost that link. I meant to bookmark it for future reference and forgot to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:24:20pm

re: #39 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Would you be so kind as to repost that link. I meant to bookmark it for future reference and forgot to.

somethingnewfordinner.com

dinner is plated
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:29:11pm

re: #29 jaunte

Nothing like kicking back with a red solo cup of beer at nine in the morning.

ummm… Scotch?

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:32:09pm

re: #9 KingKenrod

I’m thinking that the PIC Season 2 is either going to be epic or a complete dumpster fire with no room for in between based on what I’ve seen. However, I’m not sure I’m ok with another time travel story in Star Trek. They’ve only done that 150 times.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:32:35pm

September 11th 2001: After getting the kids (then 7 and 11 years old) off to school before 7:30, I had crawled into bed to try to catch a couple more hours of sleep.

Shortly after the second plane hits, my phone rings and it’s my brother in Radford (Virginia). IIRC, he had walked over to his girlfriend’s apartment after getting off work on the graveyard shift at the 7-Eleven at nine. He told me to turn on my TV.

Living down in an Appalachian holler, I could only pick up the local PBS affiliate clearly, and PBS stayed with their normal schedule of kids and educational programming during the day. I could pick up our local ABC affiliate, but reception was very snowy and barely watchable.

So, my brother spent the first part of the day relaying information to me that he was getting from CNN via his girlfriend’s cable. I tried tuning in the local NPR station on the radio. They were still running normal programming, as were the local commercial music stations. In Southern West Virginia, local radio stations were very slow in switching over to their respective network news feeds. I don’t think WV Public Radio switched over to Don Edwards over the national NPR feed until sometime after the Pentagon was attacked. My brother signed off from his girlfriend’s apartment to hear back over to his apartment, leaving me with a staticky Peter Jennings.

About a half-hour after hanging up, my brother calls me back. *HIS* cable has gone out. So, I spend the next few hours relaying what I’m hearing from ABC feeling like a looking-glass version of NBC’s Frank McGee relaying what he’s hearing over the telephone from Robert McNeil from Dallas in November 1963.

My brother’s reaction after the Pentagon was hit: “This is war.”
My reaction at the end of the day: Shock, mourning, and fear about exactly to what dark places our rage would take us as a society, what cruel impulses we would give into and justify, fears that over the last 20 years have proven to be well-founded.

And, yes, by late 2002 and early 2003, I couldn’t withstand the propaganda from the right-wing warbloggers anymore and surrendered to the darkness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:33:18pm

Unruly passengers who refuse to wear a face mask on a plane will face a doubling of the fine, according to the latest executive order from President Joe Biden.

The order came under Biden’s COVID-19 action plan, which was released on Thursday, when he directed the Transportation Security Administration to “double fines for those who are not in compliance.”

The face mask fine increase applies to airports and “on certain modes of public transportation, including on many airplanes, trains, maritime vessels, and intercity bus services,” the White House said.

The increased fine is in effect through Jan. 18, 2022, and is part of an effort to “help slow and contain the spread of the virus.”

According to the TSA, starting on Friday, the new fines for violating face mask mandates for first offenders are $500 to $1,000 and $1,000 to $3,000 for second offenders.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:35:41pm

re: #18 Dave In Austin

Another white edgelord who has never had to deal with the consequences of trying to be the edgiest edgelord whos ever lorded over an edge.

“It was just a joke…”

“It was satire…”

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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:37:26pm

I never want to get to the point where I wish someone dead. It’s psychologically and morally corrosive. I fight that sentiment and want the last word to go to God, who will — I believe — hold the anti-vaxxers responsible for many deaths.

Like my friends, I now reserve my sympathies for the innocent kids infected by politically belligerent teachers and parents. For those whose work requires being in offices or groups. And for those around the globe who want but can’t get vaccines, true victims of our medical shortsightedness.

But when asked to sympathize with the deathbed regrets of any politician, internet influencer or a rabid right-wing radio host who used anti-mask politics and COVID conspiracies to gain followers, sorry, I got nothing.

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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:39:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:43:53pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:44:45pm

Our shop at Ft Rucker is a Pentagon Field Operating Agency—a branch office. We were at work in the morning when our Operations Br alerted us to the first hit. My guess was a traffic or tourist aircraft accident. We had the big screen TV up by the second hit. Our section was half civilian/half mid-career helicopter pilots. We knew we were going to war, just not where.

Before the Pentagon hit, our DC liaison (dislocated to Crystal City by construction) was on the phone. They described the Pentagon crash that killed LTG Maude and his people.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:49:31pm

re: #29 jaunte

Nothing like kicking back with a red solo cup of beer at nine in the morning.

We lost our innocence.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:55:40pm

re: #29 jaunte

Just wait until you’ve been day-drinking from the rare BLUE Solo cup. It’s a whole new sub-level of degeneracy.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 2:56:54pm

re: #51 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Oddly enough, the one disposable cup in my pantry.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:00:29pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you. Made sure it got bookmarked this time. :-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:00:57pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:04:39pm

Many are also asking “can I share a toothbrush with my dog?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:04:40pm
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William Lewis  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:08:15pm

re: #42 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’m thinking that the PIC Season 2 is either going to be epic or a complete dumpster fire with no room for in between based on what I’ve seen. However, I’m not sure I’m ok with another time travel story in Star Trek. They’ve only done that 150 times.

I’m reasonably confident of them pulling it off after the first season which was far and away the best first season of any Trek even with it’s own oddities - slight let down on the ending but aced it with things like the Riker home, Jean Luc with the fake accent and most of all with Data’s death. It could stink but if any of them can make a time travel and Q story work it is this gang.

But I am really antsy to see Star Trek: Prodigy especially after the new trailer.

Star Trek: Prodigy | Official Trailer | Paramount+

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nines09  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:09:26pm

Secrets Of The Red Cup.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:09:30pm

re: #50 Barefoot Grin

We lost our innocence.

I lost my innocence on November 22, 1963.

As for 9/11/01 there are very bad memories that I still don’t have the ability to discuss…except that a certain jerk FAILED TO DO HIS JOB AND READ THE DAILY BULLETIN THAT WARNED HIM ABOUT AN IMMINENT ACTION!

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:10:26pm

re: #51 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Just wait until you’ve been day-drinking from the rare BLUE Solo cup. It’s a whole new sub-level of degeneracy.

Hmm, a bag of blue Solo cups mysteriously showed up in our dining room a couple of months back.

No-one living in the house drinks alcohol.

Hmmmmm.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:13:41pm

I really wish I could just mourn.

But all I can think about is how these people died and immediately their loss was co-opted by men with malefic intentions, who’ve permanently dyed 9/11, but patriotism more generally, in their colors. Rather than genuinely express a loss, the country was told what to feel, how to feel…and most sinisterly, what thoughts and feelings would be punished.

If I put in some effort, I could name and put a biography to everyone that died in the Towers, and died in the rescue efforts around the Towers.

…but I can’t do that for the people killed in their names. Did we avenge ourselves a hundred times over, or a thousand times over?

Americans died and those individuals were immediately abstracted into blob of nationalist sentiment. And if you questioned any of where this was going, that blood—disproportionate blood—was necessary, you were pushed outside of the body politic, made not-American. We came together organically to be sad for a brief moment, but the demands for unity became demands for compliance that escalated and escalated. Civil liberties went away for all of us, American Muslims and people that could be mistaken for Muslim were not allowed to belong to the nation or mourn with the rest of us. In the long term, the need to further sort the country into the loyal and disloyal, the normative and the deviant, would become things like the Patriot Act and police militarization.

Toby Keith wrote the American Horst Wessel Lieder and nobody blinked.

For twenty years there has been no time to be sad for people as people because I’ve been prompted to feel a certain way that gives the powerful what they want…and that worked, I spent years not talking to anyone about the frustration or skepticism I felt, the fear that these wars were bad ideas tactically and morally indefensible.

I still don’t know how to mourn, because the quantity of what I’m mourning is so great that there’s no beginning point.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:15:05pm

Front page of Biloxi Sun Herald Extra Edition, 9/11/01.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:20:24pm

re: #43 A Three Hour Tour

….
My brother’s reaction after the Pentagon was hit: “This is war.”
My reaction at the end of the day: Shock, mourning, and fear about exactly to what dark places our rage would take us as a society, what cruel impulses we would give into and justify, fears that over the last 20 years have proven to be well-founded.

And, yes, by late 2002 and early 2003, I couldn’t withstand the propaganda from the right-wing warbloggers anymore and surrendered to the darkness.

I was driving to work that morning when I turned on WBBM News radio and heard that a plane had struck the World Trade Center a few minutes earlier. The anchors were making comparisons to prior incidents where small planes flew into buildings when suddenly a woman who was being interviewed said in horror that a plane flew into the The Twin Towers — and she made clear it was a new plane, and she was not referring to the earlier attack. My immediate reaction at that point was that we were now at war. When I got to work, there was a TV and my office spent much of the day watching the coverage.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:23:17pm

re: #63 Hecuba’s daughter

I rewatched some of the CNN coverage and the anchor said after the second plane hit that he thinks there must be an issue with navigational systems sending planes off track.

Like, really. How damn naive can you be?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:28:55pm

re: #63 Hecuba’s daughter

I was driving to work that morning when I turned on WBBM News radio and heard that a plane had struck the World Trade Center a few minutes earlier. The anchors were making comparisons to prior incidents where small planes flew into buildings when suddenly a woman who was being interviewed said in horror that a plane flew into the The Twin Towers — and she made clear it was a new plane, and she was not referring to the earlier attack. My immediate reaction at that point was that we were now at war. When I got to work, there was a TV and my office spent much of the day watching the coverage.

.
The few months before the attack were a nightmare for me: my father, my best friend, and then my husband all died from cancer. I was mourning them and in a perpetual state of despair when 9/11 happened. It was one more unbelievable sorrow to cope with — the worst year in my life on a personal basis and as a citizen of this nation.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:29:28pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

I rewatched some of the CNN coverage and the anchor said after the second plane hit that he thinks there must be an issues with navigational systems sending planes off track.

Like, really. How damn naive can you be?

That’s was my first thought. I couldn’t wrap my head around a pilot flying into a building. I mean, they’d usually rather drop the plane into water rather than hit something. My mind just couldn’t make the connection it this was deliberate.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:32:02pm

I was on the 12th floor of a building on Vermont Ave. in DC; extremely close to the WH. We were told to GTFO and go home. Luckily, I had ridden my bike that day, so the log jam that was DC traffic didn’t affect me at all. Got home in the 30 minutes it jam took me, riding part all the stupid cars on 13th street. We had a bunch of people traveling that had to find innovative ways home. The Fed. Gov. isn’t so good at quickly switching travel plans on short notice.

The weirdest thing to me for the next few days was nothing flying.

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Varek Raith  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:39:27pm

Good timezones.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:40:05pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread

[Embedded content]

Rick Rescorla was the soldier pictured on the cover of an early edition of We Were Soldiers Once…..and Young, years before 9-11.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:43:03pm

We were on our farm getting ready to head out for chores when our farm help (who were and still are part of the family) called to say turn on the TV, a plane had hit the World Trade Center.

My thought was that the real pilot was suicidal, that it was a smaller plane, like everyone else. We had a tv but no antenna, just used it to watch videotapes. When the men arrived, they managed a wire out the window that got a snow filled screen of the two towers, and we were watching when the second plane hit. We did get the animals fed, but we spent a lot of time watching and listening and wondering.

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:45:01pm

re: #66 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I first heard the reports of the WTC attacks driving down 11th Avenue in Manhattan (I had had to come back to the City to turn my leased car back to the dealer, I never figured that date of 9/11/01 was going to be memorable): most of the initial commentary on the radio seemed to assume the incident was either another private-plans incident as had happened on the East Side in (?) 1998: or else an accident like the collision of a bomber with the Empire State Building in (?1945?) . By the time I got to the dealer, the people there were glued to the TV, and the truth was getting slowly known…..

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 11, 2021 • 3:50:20pm

It is not the best picture in the world. This is a photo of the front page of The Wall Street Journal for 9/11/2001.

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Tahitinho  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:06:06pm

When the 9/11 attacks happened, I was asleep on the other side of the planet, in my tiny cabin in the crew area of a cruise ship. It was a great gig. I played piano in the ship’s band. We were sailing 10 day cruises out of Papeete, Tahiti. Stops at Moorea, Huahine, Raiatea, and Bora Bora. I had been there about 6 months.

My roommate woke me to say that the World Trade Centers had fallen down. I was too much in sleep mode to understand. Later, I got up and found out what had happened, although it wasn’t totally clear what that was.

A few days later, in the middle of the afternoon while we were en route to Bora Bora, we abruptly turned around. There was an announcement on the PA system, telling pax and crew alike that the cruise line had gone bankrupt, and that we were returning to our home port immediately. The cruise line, I found out later, was overextended on loans, and with all air travel shut down, they could not come up with the cash for refunds and expenses. If there had been a next cruise, the ship would have been empty. Supposedly, there had been a meeting previously scheduled with big money backers… set for Sept 12.

The person making the announcement had the good foresight to add, “If any passengers are upset by this news, please be kind to staff and crew. Please realize, we all just lost our jobs.”

On the way back to Tahiti, we put on a quickly thrown together show for the passengers. I did a quick arrangement of God Bless America. Then we docked in a cargo terminal, instead of our usual middle-of-town berth. It was about 2 weeks before my agency found a flight to get me home. I was lucky. I had friends on other ships that spent weeks sailing in circles until things were decided.

So, while my loss was tiny in comparison to others, I was still affected. There were attacks in NYC and Washington DC, and I lost my job quite literally on the other side of the planet.

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Dangerman  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:11:31pm

The family of a man who died of heart issues in Mississippi is asking people to get vaccinated for COVID-19 after 43 hospitals across three states were unable to accept him because of full cardiac ICUs, USA Today reports

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EstebanTornado1963  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:11:41pm

I expect a 12hr ban for this

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:12:09pm

It was a really surreal day for us. My husband was in Texas at the airport trying to get home(for some reason I keep thinking it was Houston but he was in Dallas). He and a few co workers ended up renting a van and driving back starting that afternoon. Our son was at school and came home early on the bus. The school district sent out a mass call to ask us not to come to school and let us know everyone was safe. Of course that didn’t stop people, but none of the younger kids even knew what was happening til after they left school. By design so no one was scared. There was no school the next day, but counselors were at the school if anyone wanted to see someone.

I remember how nice people were for awhile after. Yes there were racist asshats in the immediate aftermath, but most people embraced the minorities they knew, we were all scared and worried and tried to comfort each other. We asked each other if we were doing ok, more phone calls, kinder interactions in stores and restaurants, more getting together for lunches and doing stuff, etc. But it didn’t last.

I was so glad when all three of us were home and safe and we heard from family by late that evening. My SIL worked about half a mile from the Pentagon, so we were all scared til we heard from her. My BIL(who died early this year from opiate related health issues) worked as a delivery driver and was headed back towards DC when the Pentagon was hit. We were lucky. What 9/11 did do was make it harder to belong, harder to be different, harder to feel welcome. In some places at least. It’s like the cliques became even more impenetrable. And I mean the adults here, not kids. Maybe it’s a southern thing, something about this place, but it’s what happened here and it’s become worse once it was unleashed and not really confronted.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:14:08pm

re: #74 Dangerman

The family of a man who died of heart issues in Mississippi is asking people to get vaccinated for COVID-19 after 43 hospitals across three states were unable to accept him because of full cardiac ICUs, USA Today reports

He died in Mississippi, 200 miles from his home, Cullman AL. Anyone ever hear of Cullman AL?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:14:35pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:19:49pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

He died in Mississippi, 200 miles from his home, Cullman AL. Anyone ever hear of Cullman AL?

Isn’t that where TFG rallied recently?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:20:56pm

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t that where TFG rallied recently?

DINGDINGDINGDING we have a winner!

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:22:31pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Dylan Avery is the patron saint of JAQing off.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:24:07pm

re: #81 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Dylan Avery is the patron saint of JAQing off.

Dylan Avery is a smarmy little git whose stupid movie inspired an entire generation of conspiracy theorists to beclown themselves on the nascent Internet in front of everybody. 9/11 Truth is one of the most widely debunked conspiracy theories in history, and it’s all thanks to one asshole who thought he’d be the next Jim Garrison and wound up being a meme.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:25:07pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

It’s the Moral Majority Family Values Party Of Personal Responsibility. So….
All I think of is the people who they may have infected or influenced to not protect themselves on their way to their final reward.
As they say, you made that bed, now lie in it.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:31:59pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:32:04pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:40:16pm

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t that where TFG rallied recently?

re: #80 Dopamine Fish

DINGDINGDINGDING we have a winner!

TBF to TFG, there was also a concert at that venue a couple weeks earlier. Alabama and our governor aren’t killing us as fast as DeSantis in Florida, but they’re trying.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:42:50pm

The State of Minnesota says that 69 COVID cases have been linked to this year’s State Fair. To be perfectly honest, considering what a huge draw the State Fair is up here, that’s actually not bad. Nearly a million people attended during the ten-day festival.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:45:34pm

re: #87 Dopamine Fish

Sigh…I wish I lived in a state that wasn’t stupid.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:46:51pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

Sigh…I wish I lived in a state that wasn’t stupid.

I wish we all did. I’m so lucky that I chose to make this place my home. I feel deep empathy for others, who are stuck in places that are less caring about their people.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:49:23pm

Minnesota has crossed 75% fully vaccinated according to the CDC data. My county is at 80% one dose, 76% fully vaccinated. This is why we can have nice things, like open schools and a state fair. And I feel a bit guilty for being so blessed, when people in Florida are fearing for their lives because their governor is a genocidal maniac with delusions of grandeur.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:49:46pm

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:52:33pm

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darthstar  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:52:58pm

re: #80 Dopamine Fish

DINGDINGDINGDING we have a winner!

Trump should ask for his head for his trophy wall.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:55:09pm

It was the best of times for Poe’s Law. It was the worst of times for Poe’s Law.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 11, 2021 • 4:55:38pm

re: #94 jaunte

It was the best of times for Poe’s Law. It was the worst of times for Poe’s Law.

Jesus H. Christ. Irony is dead.

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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:00:33pm

Free stream of Umphrey’s McGee sets from Milwaukee and Minneapolis last month.

Umphrey’s McGee: Best of Midwest ‘21

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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:04:52pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:11:47pm

It’s alive!

10 days of pretending to be done, the lava returns.

Now leaking out of a hole in the north side of the cone, you see a lava pool on the northwest side of the cone.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:12:53pm
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:14:32pm
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:15:48pm

re: #94 jaunte

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:18:06pm

re: #100 Belafon

Imagine the ignominy of a career writing tweets for the Daily Mail.

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:22:56pm

re: #102 jaunte

Imagine the ignominy of a career writing tweets for the Daily Mail.

The sole saving grace being that they’re anonymous.
(The authors hope)

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:26:33pm

re: #103 Jay C

I’m sure they keep a list of top engagement targets (AOC! Top Ten!) that they have to follow religiously to feed their audience enough outrage biscuit.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:30:30pm

wVvjQm+XFEX6waDv4/uj3Bu/MnoYYoCCOE2RdGxWQ0E9AQEKb4ZrtxPZulZYJczuN6+qy+FQbc67RDCE2atYWCGDsarFhCk6TbGEEXDApDG0RmJZFSQDRxijHEpzf4Y/W7ywUD+EW+qHZwoWHgtzGYcTkTpKmzHW0tDNUU4KfpiQ0VxmZ3UDg5e9U8AuELjiJn/CB0o4pjxLse4l6shkyZlPxr63c1PPIkhhBjVYSyhGB7Hm2Ld+1A6msQqJV2OYvOIEWW8KUNzUmE9NrNABE2+R9zA9TT9TOLXdHvSdwUkpjGPiT71gOAuIxyQEVAu8Z5u5EA/EHJm3phpBDN2/NcwetgHhjyRurS3BI+ZzD9bDBbv0a9A8mIGp6C4OOdTPLRCnwOzmPk9nFh7F98ZsKRLglKJ0IBQ0INGwO41/RReBYwIUuT3ZqJZrHgn5FMZwrtBHmf3BM7h3FNTMEG8j8esf9VPmeX6/nnoQGaSYnJxDHBI0qfwJocQJijLyeZgElZFYd8lGfrnG0cDfjUkypb9iRnU/7oNs81txpPoy1twqHCave/SX+nL9AlcNaeg7KTrN2lyXFtmcx/lW5eBl6WvNo5Fst+7OCnleSF9ufClQg0HMxXZHa1lKb3TN0LpCf5BSuHAN7tLVGsdAuBGE7rtUdUTCHBYCd9c/DTZqvwY0ris3H1CynQ==

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:37:02pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:38:37pm

re: #106 jaunte

Paging AG James. Paging AG James. Please pick up the emergency red phone.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:41:23pm

re: #98 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Correcting myself: in that image, the lava pool you see on the left is in the middle of Geldingadalir valley. The camera had pulled out and moved left.

The lava is indeed pooling northwest of the cone, which is the north end of Geldingadalir. Then the lava is flowing south. Sputtering all the while because of weeks of rain making pools of water.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:46:00pm

re: #106 jaunte

They were even more evil than we thought they were.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:46:34pm

oops wrong tab

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:50:06pm

Sociopath:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:53:33pm

re: #69 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Rick Rescorla was the soldier pictured on the cover of an early edition of We Were Soldiers Once…..and Young, years before 9-11.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:58:52pm

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Sociopath:

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Her only somewhat redeeming quality was participating in Crossfit without constantly bringing it up like a vegan or some shit.

Not anymore.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:58:55pm

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Sociopath

Shorter Marge Three Names: Let me rename something I routinely do so that it checks the “support the troops box” on my political CV.

I’m going to start calling my walks with Teddy the “Boo Taliban Stroll.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2021 • 5:59:56pm

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Okay, I’m fascinated by this.

The secret code to all these people is that they desperately want to appear to believe in things, but are incapable of actually applying belief to themselves…if an idea imposes on them, limits their options, they reject it. So what we over and over is again is this process of making something sincere shallow and performative…ideally, turning something that they’re already doing into something sacred.

This is incentivized by capitalism, because ideally all things are acts of consumption: if you believe, you would spend money on things that show you believe…but at this point it’s so deep in these people’s mindsets that it’s not-just-capitalist, it’s a pre-fascist fixation on aesthetics that denies that deeper meaning is possible…what is true is true because it’s made to be true by force of assertion, so what is sacred and sincere is just what is performed most vehemently.

This means something, and I’ll fuck you up if you point out it doesn’t is where this dead-ends. It’s theater that you’re forced to treat as real because you’re at gunpoint: it’s the famous “there are four lights” torture scene from TNG but played as an actual episteme.

Which leads us to this this perfect crystal of shallowness, performativity, and aggression: a 9/11 commemorative workout themed around the deaths of people in a bombing incident in Kabul.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:05:00pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:05:56pm

re: #115 The Ghost of a Flea

This is incentivized by capitalism, because ideally all things are acts of consumption: if you believe, you would spend money on things that show you believe

“…In an address to the nation on the evening of the 9/11 attacks, President George W. Bush reassured the public that “our financial institutions remain strong” and the American economy was still “open for business.” He would go on to tell people to “get down to Disney World in Florida” to help shore up the country’s hurting airlines. “Take your families and enjoy life the way we want it to be enjoyed,” he said.”
vox.com

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:11:56pm
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:12:10pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:16:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:25:32pm

re: #95 Dopamine Fish

Jesus H. Christ. Irony is dead.

it’s just pining for the fjords

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:27:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:27:59pm
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:29:00pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:31:06pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

I just rolled through a list of Bush-era stuff, and…yeah, that man should shut up.

Part of the Great Forgetting is that the outrages of each Republican President are downplayed when the next one reaches for the same objectives but in an even more outrageous manner.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:33:45pm
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:35:46pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:41:33pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:42:46pm

Hot off the press, and we do mean hot: So Geldingadalir valley has been filling up with hot lava all day, boiling in places (trapped water turning to steam), and with that we get a stoopid hooman trick:

TOURIST IS RISKING HIS LIFE, ON HOT LAVA, TO BAKE A MARSHMALLOW FOR INSTAGRAM!!-Sep 12, 2021


..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:45:45pm

re: #111 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Sociopath:

sex with the trainer is the finish line?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:51:26pm

re: #126 Belafon

uh, that would be the Lion Queens

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:52:53pm

re: #126 Belafon

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Fuck with one of my Family & find out what happens.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:52:59pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh, that would be the Lion Queens

The tweeter corrects themselves in the replies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:53:02pm

re: #126 Belafon

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:53:04pm

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:56:58pm

😂

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:57:19pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2021 • 6:57:38pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:03:28pm

re: #95 Dopamine Fish

Jesus H. Christ. Irony is dead.

I made the mistake of reading that article.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:08:29pm

Because of the gif:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:09:34pm

re: #136 Patricia Kayden

😂

we may be simple here in Kentucky, but most of us aren’t terminally stupid

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:10:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:11:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:14:13pm

niterz, lizardz!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:22:47pm
146
Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:32:26pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:34:53pm

re: #139 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I made the mistake of reading that article.

This is nothing new from the right.

Let’s not forget that on Sept 19, 2001, in discussing 9/11, Jerry Falwell said, with Pat Robertson’s agreement, “I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say “you helped this happen.” “

And then there is Dinesh and his 2007 book The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and its Responsibility for 9/11 where he regurgitates the same charges. Muslims do not hate America because of its freedom and democracy, but because they perceive America to be imposing its moral depravity (support for sexual licentiousness) on the world.

The RW is enamored with Putin and simultaneously treats Muslim hostility as due to left-wing ideology. They are the enemy of our democracy which is slowly dying at their hands.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:47:58pm

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:49:45pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:49:46pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2021 • 7:51:49pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

Important stuff always gets buried on the weekends.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:05:33pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

A modified limited opaque weekend hangout.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:08:45pm

Can someone tell about the charges circulating RW media and also I believe on Bill Maher about the National Archives?

My favorite Trump loving brown shirt said on her FB page:

Crazy has gone beyond the concept in Washington DC.
The National Archives staff has issued a warning about the Declaration of Independence.
They have issued a ” harm warning on content” about the Declaration.

What’s this all about?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:13:03pm

The fuck?
media.pa.gov

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KingKenrod  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:16:24pm

re: #153 Hecuba’s daughter

Can someone tell about the charges circulating RW media and also I believe on Bill Maher about the National Archives?

My favorite Trump loving brown shirt said on her FB page:

What’s this all about?

snopes.com

Short answer: it was a blanket disclaimer at NA, not directed towards any particular doc.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:16:53pm

re: #154 Dave In Austin

The fuck?
media.pa.gov

Have they received intel about possible plans to attack the plant?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:18:58pm

re: #156 Teukka

Have they received intel about possible plans to attack the plant?

They don’t do this at other Nukes that I know of.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:21:06pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey Putinverstehersdirtbag left… you still think she’s all that and a bag of chips?

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:21:23pm

re: #157 Dave In Austin

They don’t do this at other Nukes that I know of.

IOW, something specific to that plant. And it really wouldn’t surprise me if there were accelerationists that would take to such an attack to “help things along”… I mean, a hard-on for Armageddon is a thing in those circles…

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No Malarkey!  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:21:56pm

A Professor of Nursing and anti-vaxxer died of Covid. Amazing. sorryantivaxxer.com

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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:24:03pm

re: #159 Teukka

IOW, something specific to that plant. And it really wouldn’t surprise me if there were accelerationists that would take to such an attack to “help things along”… I mean, a hard-on for Armageddon is a thing in those circles…

Or the plant operators are concerned about a possible leak and are trying to minimize liability.

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:30:43pm

re: #161 A Cranky One

Or the plant operators are concerned about a possible leak and are trying to minimize liability.

No news of the plant having been scrammed recently?

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:36:18pm

re: #161 A Cranky One

Or the plant operators are concerned about a possible leak and are trying to minimize liability.

That would be a core breach in that case. But aren’t there failsafes upon failsafes stacked on top of each other to prevent a reactor being taken so far outside the SOAR that it breaches?

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:43:04pm

re: #163 Teukka

That would be a core breach in that case. But aren’t there failsafes upon failsafes stacked on top of each other to prevent a reactor being taken so far outside the SOAR that it breaches?

And one would imagine that if there were some danger of any serious “incident” with nuke plants - either occurred or pending - the relevant authorities might be taking somewhat more forceful plans than just rolling out a distribution plan for potassium-iodide pills, with (apparently) little urgency….

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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:43:11pm
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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:44:13pm

re: #163 Teukka

I haven’t heard anything and am not familiar with the design of the plants. But a release of radioactive steam strikes me as one possibility.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:45:22pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:46:10pm

A couple of choads celebrate 9/11

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:46:10pm

re: #164 Jay C

And one would imagine that if there were some danger of any serious “incident” with nuke plants - either occurred or pending - the relevant authorities might be taking somewhat more forceful plans than just rolling out a distribution plan for potassium-iodide pills, with (apparently) little urgency….

Or the feds nabbed some idiots, believe they got them all, but are doing CYA just in case…

re: #166 A Cranky One

I haven’t heard anything and am not familiar with the design of the plants. But a release of radioactive steam strikes me as one possibility.

Valid hypothesis.

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ckkatz  Sep 11, 2021 • 8:56:54pm

re: #126 Belafon

By the way, none of these critters are little. Adult Hyenas weigh 100-150lbs and up.

(Here are some pictures for size. There are some groups of Nigerian nomads that apparently keep and raise them.)

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JOE 🥓  Sep 11, 2021 • 9:15:20pm

re: #158 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Hey Putinverstehersdirtbag left… you still think she’s all that and a bag of chips?

Jimmy Dore still loves TOOLSI!


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Evangelicals and the Limits of Evangelical EmpathyLink to the article at: alternet.org She writes of her own experience where she turned against evangelicals. Here are the critical paragraphs to think about. And this will bring me to the ongoing evangelical moral panic over exvangelicals, those who ...
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How Did the United States Treat the Creator of…The SaintJust a reminder of how one Leslie Charteris was treated by the Chinese Exclusion Act…and California’s anti-Chinese laws. Just in case you didn’t know, Leslie Charteris was the creator of this literary figure… Charteris himself wasn’t far removed from his ...
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