The Bob Cesca Podcast: Non-Mandate Mandate

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Non-Mandate Mandate — [Explicit Langauge] General Milley says he blocked Trump from using nukes. Bob’s ocular migraine. California Recall Day. Biden’s vaccine mandate isn’t really a vaccine mandate. Buzz’s Bookmarks. Corpses of the Day. Anti-vaxxers are snorting Betadine now. New York hospital shuts down maternity ward due to anti-vaxxers. The worst doctors in the world. DC is preparing for the Sept. 18 rally by insurrection supporters. Howard Stern’s rampage continues. Capital Police arrest suspected terrorist outside DNC headquarters. “Hyper-partisan left?” With Buzz Burbank, music by Alexia Chambi and Abby K, and more!

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:20:53pm
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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:24:17pm

From the previous thread

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

Navajo Baby’s First Laugh Ceremony

I learned of Ashii Asdzan- Salt Woman, during my niece’s A’wee Chi’deedloh- the Baby’s First Laugh Ceremony. In Navajo we celebrate a baby’s first laugh, we believe babies before they laugh are part of the Holy Peoples’ world and haven’t fully settled in with the Earth Peoples’ world. It’s when they laugh they are telling us they are ready to join the community of the Earth People. It is also believed that a child assumes the qualities of the person who witnesses, or coaxes, her/his first giggle and is the person to host the baby’s First Laugh Ceremony. In celebration of the baby joining the Earth People, the community gathers in prayer and in receiving salt crystals from the baby’s right hand at the ceremony. Placed on the food or tongue, the salt is meant to rejuvenate the good character in each recipient and serve as the first in a lifetime of generous acts by the child. This exchange is a teaching taught by Ashii Asdzaan-Salt Women who came from the salt mines of the Grand Canyon. Source

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:24:56pm
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Teukka  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:24:59pm

GOOOD FUCKING GRIEF!

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darthstar  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:28:28pm

re: #4 Teukka

GOOOD FUCKING GRIEF!

It also cleanses the colon.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:29:22pm

re: #5 darthstar

It also cleanses the colon.

Just like Ivermectin, so you know it’s working.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:29:37pm
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:30:18pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

OUR TIME HAS COME!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:30:37pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:33:13pm

re: #4 Teukka

GOOOD FUCKING GRIEF!

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If you want diarrhea, ivermectin’s got nothing on haribo.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:33:22pm

Men Without Hats

Born to Run (Live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London ‘75)


Miami Steve Van Zandt on the random percussion stuff

Youtube Video

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Teukka  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:34:12pm

re: #10 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

If you want diarrhea, ivermectin’s got nothing on haribo.

OTOH, Haribo (probably) won’t make you shed your intestinal lining like Ivermectin…

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:37:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:37:16pm

Craighead told investigators he only planned use the long knives for defensive purposes, according to notes of his voluntary interview.
DC Superior Court Judge Lloyd Nolan ordered Craighead to stay in jail until his next hearing. Craighead, a bald White man, was handcuffed and flanked by US Marshals, and was wearing camouflage pants.

Court documents unsealed Tuesday shed new light on Craighead’s extremist views. Police officers said in a sworn affidavit that he said to them, “Why are you all pulling me over when there are brown people hurting White people.” They also said he uttered anti-gay slurs about a prominent Hispanic author and that he blamed the LGBT community for the September 11 terrorist attacks.
Police said in court filings that they found a handwritten inscription on the car that said, “death to others, White power.”
He told investigators that he wasn’t a member of any extremist groups, according to court filings. But police said he was wearing a shirt affiliated with the “Boogaloo Boys” when he was arrested, a violent far-right movement known for anti-government views and for trying to instigate a racial war in the US.

well, ok, then…

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dat_said  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:37:23pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:38:33pm

re: #200 Belafon

I don’t know about you, but I have often had to accept help from people that I otherwise wouldn’t have anything else to do with.

As for the Lincoln Project, their members have stated more than once that their job is not to dictate the Democrats agenda, and they have resisted doing that when they would have had the opportunity. There have been no “If the Democrats would only do this” related to policy; it’s only been in how they think it would be better to do more direct attacks on Republicans.

I am definitely a “work with Stalin” guy. When we’re truly on the other side of this, we can evaluate what it means to be an ally. But we cannot win with only Democrats. And I’m not beyond a few thanks every now and then, and a few less “but you started this” especially with those that have apologized.

My point is that we’re never going to be on the other side of this.

The only leverage the “reasonable” conservatives have is their own monstrous creation.

Their ideas don’t work, their plans for the future don’t work. Their plan to defeat the current fascism is to continue doing the things that create fascists.

You keep imagining that I’m stating a preference that has to do with my virtues and my choice of affiliation, when what I am saying is that it makes no strategic sense because those allies want stupid counterproductive things that will make the war go on longer.

Teaming with Stalin meant millions of soldiers who…let’s get callous here…were put into a meat grinder by their leader because that’s what the Allies needed—meat to throw at the Nazis until the logistics were strained to failure. The price of teaming with Stalin was Eastern Europe becoming Soviet colonies…which—also callous—wasn’t really that bad a price all things considered, Western Europe had no need for those people because they got cheap labor and captive markets from their colonies.

Teaming with “moderate” conservatives doesn’t get us many voters, only gets us those voters under conditions that alienate other voters, and the “price” of those voters is to continue policies that make the world worse in ways that will create more instability and thus more reactionaries, but also further empower institutions and people that already have so much wealth they are effectively beyond the law. It’s not that people won’t be held to account for what they’ve done in past, it’s that they’re demanding a future where they can’t be held to account ever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:39:59pm
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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:41:44pm

re: #4 Teukka

GOOOD FUCKING GRIEF!

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but it changes your voice forever

YouTube

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:42:22pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

I vehemently disagree with Vindman. Can we please focus on the person who instigated an insurrection and who even now continues to undermine our democracy? Trump keeps getting away with ish.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:46:01pm

re: #19 Patricia Kayden

I vehemently disagree with Vindman. Can we please focus on the person who instigated an insurrection and who even now continues to undermine our democracy? Trump keeps getting away with ish.

….

PELOSI: If they couldn’t even stop him from an assault on the Capitol, who even knows what else he may do? And is there anybody in charge at the White House who was doing anything but kissing his fat butt all over this? You know he’s crazy. He’s been crazy for a long time.

MILLEY: Madam Speaker, I agree with you on everything.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:46:07pm

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

If you think this:

My point is that we’re never going to be on the other side of this.

Then we’re done. We can just stop trying to argue. There will always need to be an effort to maintain a democracy, which Democrats have failed to do at times, but there’s a difference between that and struggling against people who are openly declaring that democracy has failed that we need to stop.

I don’t expect to win every battle, but I do think there’s an other side. But I also know it won’t happen if we exclude other people who are trying to get there.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:46:55pm

re: #20 Dangerman

she also said to Milley that

then-President Donald Trump was a “dictator” who “should have been arrested on the spot” after what she called his coup attempt to remain in the White House by inciting the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, CNBC reports.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:46:59pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:48:27pm

re: #12 Teukka

OTOH, Haribo (probably) won’t make you shed your intestinal lining like Ivermectin…

Is that a point in its favor or against it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:50:13pm

I didn’t see MrBWS for three weeks

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:50:40pm
Tucker Carlson admitted to the Rubin Report that sometimes lies when he is “really cornered or something.”

Said Carlson: “I lie. If I’m really cornered or something, I lie. I really try not to. I try never to lie on TV. I just don’t, you know, I don’t like lying. I certainly do it, you know, out of weakness or whatever.”

anyone quelle surprised?
i bet not even Bueller

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:52:01pm

re: #16 The Ghost of a Flea

My point is that we’re never going to be on the other side of this.

not with these people on the other side

Freshman Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA) shared a fake news article from a satirical online news website falsely claiming President Joe Biden’s administration of planning to withhold health benefits from unvaccinated veterans, the Quad City Times reports.

The story included this disclaimer: “Everything on this website is made up. Do not rely on anything said here
.”

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cat-tikvah  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:52:17pm

re: #26 Dangerman

He’s lying. He lies all the time.
It’s possible he might accidentally tell the truth on occasion.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:53:30pm

Sen Tim Kaine (D-VA) said at a Senate hearing that the U.S. had unrealistic goals going into the Afghanistan war.

Said Kaine: “We had good intentions about what we might have wanted in Afghanistan.”

He added: “But let’s face it: we can’t get 30% of Americans to get a vaccine. We can’t get 30% of Americans to acknowledge the results of a presidential election. Do we really think that we can determine what the culture of another country should be?”

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:54:19pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I didn’t see MrBWS for three weeks

he was blown that far away?

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:54:56pm

re: #2 Teddy’s Person

From the previous thread

That’s so unbelievably sweet!

Something else about Navajo that Christian family-value types always freak out about when I explain it to them… they NEVER look to their father as a male role model. First choice is a maternal uncle, if they don’t have one second choice is a paternal uncle, then teachers and coaches and tribal elders. The last man on earth that a Navajo boy would seek to emulate is the guy his mother has sex with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 2:55:27pm

re: #30 Dangerman

he was blown that far away?

sometimes felt like it

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:00:03pm

Please don’t!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:00:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:01:18pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:01:40pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, ok, then…

I’m interested in weed use by these dudes. He had a couple of doob tubes in his kit.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:04:11pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

Windmills do not cause cancer and do not kill birds. Domesticated kitty kills more birds than windmills.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:05:16pm

this is big?

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:06:14pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

Please don’t!!

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:07:24pm

also because florida

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nines09  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:07:24pm

re: #4 Teukka

But only if you shove them up your ass.
All at the same time.
And then drink iodine.
Then rinse with radon.
All better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:07:40pm
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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:12:22pm
New York Times: “Army officials said Tuesday that all active-duty units are expected to be fully vaccinated by Dec. 15, and Reserve and National Guard members by June 30. Those who refuse to be vaccinated and have not been given an exemption will face suspension.”

6/30 is 10 more months
wtf?

even 12/15 is too long.

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nines09  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:14:33pm

re: #29 Dangerman

Sen Tim Kaine (D-VA) said at a Senate hearing that the U.S. had unrealistic goals going into the Afghanistan war.

Said Kaine: “We had good intentions about what we might have wanted in Afghanistan.”

He added: “But let’s face it: we can’t get 30% of Americans to get a vaccine. We can’t get 30% of Americans to acknowledge the results of a presidential election. Do we really think that we can determine what the culture of another country should be?”

They wanted an American model of military.
Can’t do if the people are illiterate.
RPG’s and Kalishnikov clips are just easier to manage.
You can weigh it in your hand.
Science is breaking down your weapon and cleaning it.
Math is weight.
Science is distance.

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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:16:49pm

re: #43 Dangerman

Millions of people, spread out all over the globe, doing stuff that maybe cannot be talked about, or maybe folks who are not required to show up at a drill center very often, medical issues but still kept on the roster, and a very long bureaucratic lead preferred by a reporting organization.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:17:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:18:25pm

thread

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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:19:48pm

re: #31 sagehen

That’s so unbelievably sweet!

Something else about Navajo that Christian family-value types always freak out about when I explain it to them… they NEVER look to their father as a male role model. First choice is a maternal uncle, if they don’t have one second choice is a paternal uncle, then teachers and coaches and tribal elders. The last man on earth that a Navajo boy would seek to emulate is the guy his mother has sex with.

Backwoods_Sleuth posted the original tweet (continuing their streak of posting the bestest and cutest tweets ever!) in the previous thread which sent me to the googles to learn more about the ceremony. I particularly liked that the child would take on the characteristics of the person who made/saw them laugh in the first place. Babies laughing is one of the most delightful sounds in the world.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:21:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:22:21pm

re: #4 Teukka

GOOOD FUCKING GRIEF!

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This is easily the funniest page I have ever posted at LGF:
Beware of the 5 Lb. Bag of Sugarless Gummy Bears on Amazon.com - the Reviews Are Priceless!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:27:07pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread

seriously, this thread is a howler

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:27:53pm

re: #21 Belafon

If you think this:

Then we’re done. We can just stop trying to argue. There will always need to be an effort to maintain a democracy, which Democrats have failed to do at times, but there’s a difference between that and struggling against people who are openly declaring that democracy has failed that we need to stop.

I don’t expect to win every battle, but I do think there’s an other side. But I also know it won’t happen if we exclude other people who are trying to get there.

I didn’t put in the effort to qualify the quoted sentence fragment with other words because that’s solely “what I believe.”

I am saying—accurately assess the what your allies’ intentions are by looking at what they’ve done in the past. Furthermore, consider what outcomes they’ve created through their own choices. Under those conditions, what is the utility of the alliance?

The ongoing trend is that the people claiming to speak for this bloc keep making demands that produce bad outcomes relative to the desired strategic objective. There is no synthesis possible with this position: the economic and social order they demand creates the problem we’re experiencing. We can’t solve the problem with more of the problem.

We can’t solve the fascist problem by enabling the people that enable the fascists, who are still trying to barter over the worth of them not enabling fascists. If the culture dictates that all motion left is unreasonable…which is the most widely-repeated truism in the discourse… that is why there’s no “other side” to this crisis.

When all this started out I was considerably more open to Never Trumpers…and on an individual basis I appreciate of the efforts of individuals who have engaged in self-reflection and conceded that we have reached this point because of specific, mounting issues. But now I’m seeing the people that lead the Never Trump discourse settle back into demanding compliance while refusing to acknowledge the continuity between Trump and what came before Trump.

They aren’t offering an alliance. Their position—that others have to assume their policy positions—undermines the claim that they genuinely want to stop the authoritarians and fascists. They have always leveraged social conservatives with undemocratic instincts against the rest of us, they’re just phrasing it different because now they don’t control those social conservative’s votes.

I’m done talking to you because…no, I will not place faith in people who have consistently operated in bad faith and shows signs of repeating their bad-faith practices. That is not pragmatic nor strategic, that is being trapped in a broken system as the party doing the appeasing in the hope that things won’t get worse.

And that never works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:29:42pm

GRIVETS!!11!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:34:31pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is going to be the Kraken lawsuits all over again, isn’t it?

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:34:40pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth
CDC:

“…To date, no variants of high consequence have been identified in the United States.”

“…Vaccines authorized for use in the United States are effective against these variants and effective therapeutics are available. CDC continues to monitor all variants circulating within the United States.”
cdc.gov

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:37:33pm
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nines09  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:37:45pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s got a new hobby and is extremely good at it.
Nice business model.
Do what you love and get paid.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:38:40pm

Why it’s almost like Massie is being deliberately obtuse and/or willfully ignorant about how vaccines work. You just know this motherfucker is vaccinated while encouraging others to assert their FREEDOM to infect fellow citizens and perhaps die themselves.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:39:25pm

LOLOL

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:40:34pm

re: #59 The Pie Overlord!

LOLOL

Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

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unproven innocence  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:40:55pm

re: #29 Dangerman

Sen Tim Kaine (D-VA) said at a Senate hearing that the U.S. had unrealistic goals going into the Afghanistan war.

Said Kaine: “We had good intentions about what we might have wanted in Afghanistan.”

He added: “But let’s face it: we can’t get 30% of Americans to get a vaccine. We can’t get 30% of Americans to acknowledge the results of a presidential election. Do we really think that we can determine what the culture of another country should be?”

I like Sen Tim Kaine, and have voted for him, but he’s being really sloppy with how he’s phrasing things here, IMO. I think he meant to say something like:
“But let’s face it: We have 30% of Americans who refuse to get a vaccine. We have 30% of Americans who will not acknowledge the results of a presidential election. …”

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:42:23pm

re: #60 Dopamine Fish

Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

When the end is preventing a mad king from starting a nuclear war, I’m on board.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:43:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:45:26pm

re: #58 Teddy’s Person

Why it’s almost like Massie is being deliberately obtuse and/or willfully ignorant about how vaccines work. You just know this motherfucker is vaccinated while encouraging others to assert their FREEDOM to infect fellow citizens and perhaps die themselves.

He is not vaccinated.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:46:27pm

re: #60 Dopamine Fish

Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

Let’s see about this. Because no officer has to obey an illegal order. There is no attack from or AUMF about China or any other nation. At a certain level our guys are supposed to communicate with other militaries. Which is a darn good idea considering how fast accidents and misunderstandings can happen.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:47:36pm

re: #62 No Malarkey!

When the end is preventing a mad king from starting a nuclear war, I’m on board.

If he really did what is reported (and that’s not at all likely), he will probably step down.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:48:42pm

re: #65 Rightwingconspirator

Let’s see about this. Because no officer has to obey an illegal order. There is no attack from or AUMF about China or any other nation. At a certain level our guys are supposed to communicate with other militaries. Which is a darn good idea considering how fast accidents and misunderstandings can happen.

I hope so. I want him to have done the right thing for the right reasons. Because holy hell, if preventing a butthurt power-mad would-be dictator from being able to nuke some random country just because he’s having a temper tantrum is wrong, I think we need to seriously revisit the way the civilian-military interaction works in this country.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:51:23pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is not vaccinated.

Well, he’s walkin’ the walk I guess.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:52:42pm

The theory is that a senior military never overrides the elected civilian. That’s the flip side of the theory that a batshit crazy megalomanic never gets elected. Back to the drawing board.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:53:49pm

Teddy’s popping in to say howdy lizards.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:54:15pm

An acquaintances grandfather just died of Covid. He had been in the hospital for 67 days. He was not vaccinated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:54:22pm

re: #66 Decatur Deb

If he really did what is reported (and that’s not at all likely), he will probably step down.

I’m thinking he was discussing potentialities with his military counterparts in other countries because EVERYBODY was worried about the orange madman.
Did he actually say he would warn of imminent attacks or was it just a suggestion of a heads up about things going tits up?
Who knows what actually happened or if there is some kind of writer’s hyperbola going on.
I would suspect that Milley played this by the constitutional book, not the stark way the “Peril” book describes. Especially since he apparently discussed this in more detail with the folks under his command and who also had need to know in the military heirachy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 3:56:35pm

re: #68 Teddy’s Person

Well, he’s walkin’ the walk I guess.

he claims he has “natural immunity” because he allegedly had Covid.
He’s definitely wrong on the first count and most likely lying about the second.
Him and Rand Paul both.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:00:07pm

re: #62 No Malarkey!

When the end is preventing a mad king from starting a nuclear war, I’m on board.

Maybe I’m being naive here but Trump never struck me as someone who would think that starting a nuclear war would be to his advantage. Bolton yes — but not Trump. He’s a bully and verbally belligerent but this doesn’t seem like a tactic he would adopt and force others to implement to stay in office. Doing a Grenada-like invasion, sure — but nothing that involved real commitment of forces or deadly weaponry. Pulling troops out of Afghanistan, as was alleged, seems up his alley — Removing forces from our allies, dismantling key defenses, definitely. But not a major attack on a key foe.

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steve_davis  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:00:16pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

(a hairy, clawed finger comes in from off-camera, flipping the page over): “And especially….RABBITS!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:00:52pm

oh hey…I got a couple of likes from Bob Costa Cesca for my responses to him about the visual migraines.

woot!

eta: I am so braindead tonight…

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:02:33pm

The military acting to take over for its own power is a nightmare we hope to never live through here. Phone calls and communications from our military to thwart a would-be dictator are how our democracy can and apparently did defend itself.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:03:54pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:06:15pm

re: #60 Dopamine Fish

Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

If the breach of chain of command is real, then a public court martial may make sense. I’d be rooting for an acquittal, of course, but getting the justification for acting behind Trump’s back on an official record would be worth it.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:09:10pm

re: #79 EPR-radar

…getting the justification for acting behind Trump’s back on an official record would be worth it.

A critical part of the electorate is beyond the point where facts and justifications could make any difference. This madness will either burn itself out, or the nation is not coming back.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:10:32pm

distance difference.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:13:33pm

re: #43 Dangerman

6/30 is 10 more months
wtf?

even 12/15 is too long.

Not every military person is easy to get to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:16:00pm

Making Salt From an Ancient, Underground Ocean

One of the very first industries in my eastern Kentucky county as well

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:17:41pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This is easily the funniest page I have ever posted at LGF:
Beware of the 5 Lb. Bag of Sugarless Gummy Bears on Amazon.com - the Reviews Are Priceless!

The ability to upding a Page does not expire, unlike the ability to upding a comment.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:23:00pm

re: #74 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe I’m being naive here but Trump never struck me as someone who would think that starting a nuclear war would be to his advantage. Bolton yes — but not Trump. He’s a bully and verbally belligerent but this doesn’t seem like a tactic he would adopt and force others to implement to stay in office. Doing a Grenada-like invasion, sure — but nothing that involved real commitment of forces or deadly weaponry. Pulling troops out of Afghanistan, as was alleged, seems up his alley — Removing forces from our allies, dismantling key defenses, definitely. But not a major attack on a key foe.

Trump is the kind of power-needy guy who says things that make everyone else around him nervous on purpose. So suddenly things have gone very wrong and you’re having to assess at what exact level of irony and fronting the president was at when he mentioned nuking stuff all those times.

And if you’re meta-cognitive about the whole thing, you may trying to anticipate whether even the man himself knows what he’s going to do, given how many times you’ve seen him flail at random.

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:26:47pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

The ability to upding a Page does not expire, unlike the ability to upding a comment.

Dopey Does Dings

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:29:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:29:16pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:30:23pm

re: #60 Dopamine Fish

Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

Keep in mind that this is reporting by a third party who may not know exactly what happened or what procedures were used. Or care much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:31:45pm

re: #89 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Keep in mind that this is reporting by a third party who may not know exactly what happened or what procedures were used. Or care much.

Pretty much what I was trying to say in #72

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:33:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:33:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:35:11pm

O_o

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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:35:30pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I did not have Shark Jesus on my 2021 bingo card.

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:36:36pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder how many species can do that under certain circumstances.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:41:00pm

Somebody jumped the shark.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:42:54pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Somebody jumped the shark.

THWACK!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:43:38pm

re: #97 Sherlock Hound

THWACK!

Thank you sir. May I have another?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:44:25pm
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:44:26pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Thank you sir. May I have another?

Bonus points for artistic impression!

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EstebanTornado1963  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:45:16pm
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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:47:21pm

re: #101 EstebanTornado1963

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Live by the algorithm. Die by the algorithm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:47:31pm

oooh. Just got more likes from another blue checkmark tweep.

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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:48:32pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Making Salt From an Ancient, Underground Ocean

One of the very first industries in my eastern Kentucky county as well

The Kanawha River Valley figured significantly in the Civil War. As did Saltville, Virginia.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:49:41pm

Is this another NY Times bothsiding GOP-asslicking disgruntled wypipo safari? Why yes! Yes it is!

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:52:22pm

And of every thing that assclown has said in the past 30 years, this, while completely asinine, is among the least asinine things he says.

Which should show you how bad the guy is.

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jeffreyw  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:53:14pm

re: #60 Dopamine Fish

Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

Why the fuck would we shit on the guy who was on the side of the United States when the cocksucker former guy skates clean.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:54:23pm

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

Is this another NY Times bothsiding GOP-asslicking disgruntled wypipo safari? Why yes! Yes it is!

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To be fair, it’s not easy being the black face of white supremacy.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:55:31pm

re: #107 jeffreyw

Why the fuck would we shit on the guy who was on the side of the United States when the cocksucker former guy skates clean.

Bushido or Bullshit. Take your pick.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:55:32pm

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

Is this another NY Times bothsiding GOP-asslicking disgruntled wypipo safari? Why yes! Yes it is!

I have spent my entire life watching people pat themselves on the back for putting in the work to excuse ugly, cruel people their vices.

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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:58:38pm

Oops, posted this in the wrong thread…

The Washington Post has an article up on the expectations regarding Saturday RWNJ event:

D.C. officials think a demonstration planned for Saturday by far-right groups supporting the rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 will prove to be a small gathering, attracting no more than a few hundred people.

But city leaders are worried that those who do attend may bring firearms illegally, setting up the potential for clashes in an area expected to be bustling on Saturday with crowds at multiple events: the annual H Street festival in Northeast that typically attracts thousands; a Howard University football game at Audi Field in Southwest; a baseball game at Nationals Park; and a Harry Styles concert at Capital One Arena downtown.

…snip…

Geldart said he and other D.C. public safety officials have been monitoring social media conversations relating to the far-right protest. “There are calls on some of the disparate sites for folks to come armed,” he said. D.C. regulations make it illegal for most nonresidents to carry guns in the city, a law that the mayoral staff members brought up in their conversations with H Street workers.

D.C. prepares for far-right protesters during day of festivals, gatherings
washingtonpost.com

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 4:59:38pm

re: #60 Dopamine Fish

Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

Any order involving use of Nuclear weapons that isn’t following this revelation: “Russia/China has unloaded everything on us sir.”

Is an illegal order. So no, lets not attack the guy trying to save democracy and the world from a raving toddler. You can’t give a chimp an AK-47, and then be concerned when someone hides the bullets because, quoting Michael Madsen in Wargames “THAT’S NOT THE CORRECT PROCEDURE!”

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nines09  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:00:38pm

re: #101 EstebanTornado1963

Well, you don’t have a dick but you surely is one.
Cry cry cry

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piratedan  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:00:48pm

re: #107 jeffreyw

the only reason I would bring him up on charges or even military discipline, is because he admitted to breaking the law by usurping the chain of command. In this instance, we are either a nation of laws, or we are not. I have no issues with having that discussion, as we can speak to the nature of the TFG’s frame of mind and if his own administration should have removed him based on the 25th amendment (a reasonable suggestion, warranted even) but it would further expose more of the chickenshit lack of functioning of the TFG and Milley ends up falling on his sword for doing the right thing… well, I suspect he weighed that possibility when he spoke out. Based on how everything else is moving based on the TFG era of widespread corruption of norms, that means we can look forward to something happening circa 2024, unless the Military chooses to act independently of the DOJ.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:03:30pm

re: #111 ckkatz

D.C. prepares for far-right protesters during day of festivals, gatherings
washingtonpost.com

What I worry about is that these far-right protesters are hoping for violent confrontation. If it doesn’t come to them in form of counter-protesters, they will go looking for it (seen recently in Olympia WA).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:05:04pm
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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:05:38pm

re: #112 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

You can’t give a chimp an AK-47,

Are you by any chance referring to this?

Chimp with AK-47, what could possibly go wrong? LOL

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:05:50pm

re: #115 Teddy’s Person

What I worry about is that these far-right protesters are hoping for violent confrontation. If it doesn’t come to them in form of counter-protesters, they will go looking for it (seen recently in Olympia WA).

The Capitol Police and the DC department are not in the same frame of mind as the Portland PD.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:06:35pm

re: #117 ckkatz

Are you by any chance referring to this?

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Video

Yes, and Bob Cesca used the same analogy during his show today.

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:06:46pm

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

Larry Elder is a real life Uncle Ruckus. Who else could come up with something like the idiotic idea of reparations for descendants of slave owners.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:07:59pm

re: #120 EPR-radar

Larry Elder is a real life Uncle Ruckus. Who else could come up with something like the idiotic idea of reparations for descendants of slave owners.

He’s trying to get the Spirit of Ronald Reagan to endorse his entry into “White Heaven”.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:09:31pm

re: #121 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

He’s trying to get the Spirit of Ronald Reagan to endorse his entry into “White Heaven”.

Doubt Reagan is tending that gate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:09:53pm

re: #114 piratedan

the only reason I would bring him up on charges or even military discipline, is because he admitted to breaking the law by usurping the chain of command.

ALLEGEDLY.
this is second hand, I believe the definition of the legal term “hearsay”.
Until I hear him actually admit to it, I’ll wait before demanding charges or whatnot.

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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:10:24pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

The Capitol Police and the DC department are not in the same frame of mind as the Portland PD.

Yes, as I understand it, after over 140 injuries, the failure to achieve their primary mission, and the subsequent replacement of the senior leadership, the Capitol Police are not likely to show much tolerance for provocateurs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:14:09pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:14:47pm

re: #124 ckkatz

Yes, as I understand it, after over 140 injuries, the failure to achieve their primary mission, and the subsequent replacement of the senior leadership, the Capitol Police are not likely to show much tolerance for provocateurs.

Hopefully this turnover in the Capitol Police helped reduce the inevitable RWNJ infestation we expect in law enforcement agencies.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:15:40pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:16:00pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

GRIVETS!!11!!

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Oh no, not the macagues!

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Sinistershade  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:17:01pm
Treason, no, but it’s apparently a serious breach of chain of command. It may have the right outcome, but I’m not so sure I’m on board with “the end justifies the means”.

I don’t entirely disagree with you (and I even think a technical argument for treason is possible), but I can’t help remembering the several times during the Cold War when we avoided nuclear armageddon because lower-level Soviet officers refused to follow procedure or submit to coercion from more senior officers.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:17:39pm
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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:17:59pm

re: #124 ckkatz

Yes, as I understand it, after over 140 injuries, the failure to achieve their primary mission, and the subsequent replacement of the senior leadership, the Capitol Police are not likely to show much tolerance for provocateurs.

By the way, this was generally how combat organizational failures in US Army were generally handled in the European Theater during World War 2.

The unit got ‘bloodied’. (With lots of their compatriots were killed or injured, the surviving soldiers began to realize that if they didn’t treat this seriously they could also get killed.)

Senior leadership was replaced. (To add confidence to the subordinates that things were being taken seriously. And also the leadership was often in a state of shock.)

Usually the organization performance improved after that. And many of the relieved officers were put back into other units after a cooling down period.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:18:44pm

re: #129 Sinistershade

I don’t entirely disagree with you (and I even think a technical argument for treason is possible), but I can’t help remembering the several times during the Cold War when we avoided nuclear armageddon because lower-level Soviet officers refused to follow procedure or submit to coercion from more senior officers.

Heroes all, and lucky to stay alive.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:18:51pm

re: #120 EPR-radar

Larry Elder is a real life Uncle Ruckus. Who else could come up with something like the idiotic idea of reparations for descendants of slave owners.

Lincoln freed the slaves in Washington DC in1862 and compensated the slaveowners with $300 for each slave; but his motivation was apparently to keep the slaveowners loyal to the Republic. In any case, this was never implemented elsewhere.

Larry Elder seems akin to Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes and perhaps the Samuel L. Jackson character in Django Unchained. His loyalty to the current version of the party is likely due to the fact that he gets far more publicity this way.

Speaking of black Republicans, whatever happened to the legislation that Tim Scott was trying to craft in response to the Floyd murder?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:19:47pm

re: #116 Dread Pirate Ron

I just hope California dodges a bullet tonight (which probably isn’t the best or right phraseology I know but) and that California won’t have to routinely participate in election recalls after the GOP loses the regularly scheduled elections.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:20:22pm

yeah, and who is to blame NOW???

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piratedan  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:20:47pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

nor am I in any rush to see the Federal Marshals or MP’s show up and cuff him, just wanted to make the point that we are supposed to be a nation of laws and if they have been broken, then there should be repercussions; as has been espoused by both sides, no one is supposed to be above the law, be it a lie in testimony regarding an affair (Clinton) to the endless litany of the Trump years (treason, campaign finance violations, human rights violations, perjury, the list goes on).

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:22:36pm

re: #129 Sinistershade

I don’t entirely disagree with you (and I even think a technical argument for treason is possible), but I can’t help remembering the several times during the Cold War when we avoided nuclear armageddon because lower-level Soviet officers refused to follow procedure or submit to coercion from more senior officers.

Stanislav Petrov and Vasily Arkhipov

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nines09  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:24:29pm

Completely off topic. Thanks for being who you all is.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:27:16pm

re: #129 Sinistershade

I do not think it rises to the level of treason. Not even close.

And it would not even be breaking the chain of command, unless he had been prior ordered to not talk with his counterpart.

Military officers of different nations often communicate with each other. And yes, during the cold war there would be prearranged meetings between US and USSR military personnel, just so they could get to know each other.

Don’t believe a word that Trump utters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:28:34pm

Cesca, the other blue checkmark and me are having a serious twitter discussion of auras, retinal detachments, etc.

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Sinistershade  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:30:07pm

re: #137 The Ghost of a Flea

Stanislav Petrov and Vasily Arkhipov

Yes! Those were the two I had in mind, though I suspect there may have been more we never heard about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:30:35pm

Other lizardz who have personal experience can join in if you don’t care. Getting good info out there is great.
Discussion started here with Cesca and me:

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mmmirele  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:31:35pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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This is easily the funniest page I have ever posted at LGF:
Beware of the 5 Lb. Bag of Sugarless Gummy Bears on Amazon.com - the Reviews Are Priceless!

I once made the mistake of buying a 12 ounce plastic container of gummy bears from the TOP of the candy table at Sprouts. Uhm. That was where the SUGAR FREE ones were. I learned my lesson.

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Sinistershade  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:32:55pm

re: #139 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I do not think it rises to the level of treason. Not even close.

And it would not even be breaking the chain of command, unless he had been prior ordered to not talk with his counterpart.

Military officers of different nations often communicate with each other. And yes, during the cold war there would be prearranged meetings between US and USSR military personnel, just so they could get to know each other.

Don’t believe a word that Trump utters.

You may well be right. I didn’t bother to look up the definition in the Federal code. I was just thinking that it could be construed as giving aid and comfort to an enemy, as defined in the Constitution.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:35:18pm

re: #141 Sinistershade

Yes! Those were the two I had in mind, though I suspect there may have been more we never heard about.

Yeah, I suspect we had more near misses than reported.

The superpowers both worked very hard to look more competent than they were.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:36:35pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Other lizardz who have personal experience can join in if you don’t care. Getting good info out there is great.
Discussion started here with Cesca and me:

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I had retinal migraines when I was pregnant with #5 son. After he was born, the migraines went away. Never had migraines before or since, only during that one pregnancy.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:36:54pm

re: #145 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, I suspect we had more near misses than reported.

The superpowers both worked very hard to look more competent than they were.

Hell’s bells, we almost nuked South Carolina. There’s no fucking way we didn’t almost nuke the Soviet Union once or twice.

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Sinistershade  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:39:20pm

Stanislav Petrov and Vasily Arkhipov: Two men who saved the world

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:40:39pm
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mmmirele  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:41:39pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cesca, the other blue checkmark and me are having a serious twitter discussion of auras, retinal detachments, etc.

I listened to part of the Cesca podcast because I wanted to hear him talk about his ocular migraine. I had one in April 2020 and broke strict quarantine so fast to get it checked out at an ophthalmologist because I was terrified it was a detached retina. Nope, just an ocular migraine. And not even a very severe one. Just enough to make me freak out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:44:54pm
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:45:55pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

The “Deep State” stopped your boss from nuking Beijing and starting a war that we would most definitely have LOST, Nazi Barbie. Maybe you should let that penetrate your thick skull before you open your vapid mouth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:47:00pm

jfc, in Pennsylvania:

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:48:09pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:49:15pm
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:50:08pm

re: #143 mmmirele

I once made the mistake of buying a 12 ounce plastic container of gummy bears from the TOP of the candy table at Sprouts. Uhm. That was where the SUGAR FREE ones were. I learned my lesson.

I drank ONE can of San Pellegrino sugar-free flavored water.

ONE can!

///

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:50:31pm

re: #155 Dread Pirate Ron

God, I long for the day when sane and rational people are in charge of this country again. I’m so fucking sick of these assholes and their outsized power over the majority.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:53:34pm

re: #154 jaunte

Sacha Baron Cohen, please pick up the courtesy phone…

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:54:44pm

re: #150 mmmirele

I listened to part of the Cesca podcast because I wanted to hear him talk about his ocular migraine. I had one in April 2020 and broke strict quarantine so fast to get it checked out at an ophthalmologist because I was terrified it was a detached retina. Nope, just an ocular migraine. And not even a very severe one. Just enough to make me freak out.

In my metro, the Massachusetts Eye and Ear has an emergency ward. Cases like yours would be seen, even in a pandemic. I had a procedure done there. A lot of assaulted people with facial injuries are seen there.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:58:58pm

re: #150 mmmirele

I had a series of ocular migraines, primarily right eye, about 10 years ago. Oddly enough, after that I had a stroke that affected the optic nerve on the left eye. I have been taking plavix ever since, and wonder if that is why the migraines stopped?

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 5:59:45pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:01:47pm

One of the two big ski area operators in Colorado.

The other is Vail Resorts. I expect them to follow suit soon.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:02:56pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:05:11pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:11:33pm

Rachel is reading excerpts from the Book. Peril, indeed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:11:49pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:18:53pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Hawley saw Cruz was having all the fun stopping Biden appointments and he wanted to get in the game. What can be done to stop these traitors? Or do we just assume that our government is finished?

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:21:24pm

re: #167 Hecuba’s daughter

So Hawley saw Cruz was having all the fun stopping Biden appointments and he wanted to get in the game. What can be done to stop these traitors? Or do we just assume that our government is finished?

They can serve for 200 days. At the end, let them lapse for a day and nominate them again.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:23:19pm

re: #168 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

They can serve for 200 days. At the end, let them lapse for a day and nominate them again.

So having acting officials as Trump did but for different reasons…

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:25:31pm

re: #112 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Wargames “THAT’S NOT THE CORRECT PROCEDURE!”

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Why does that make me remember reading the allegation that until 1977 the USAF had the launch codes for Minuteman ICBM’s set to 00000000?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:29:10pm

JFC the entitlement of these fuckers.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:34:34pm
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nines09  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:35:48pm

Goodnight good folk.

‘member this?

The Folk Implosion - Natural One (High Quality Audio)

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:35:56pm

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

So having acting officials as Trump did but for different reasons…

While complaining loudly that things would be so much better if the repugs would do their @#$& jobs.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:38:15pm

Trump Lashes Out at George W. Bush

Former president Donald Trump lashed out Monday at former president George W. Bush, saying his fellow Republican had ‘a failed and uninspiring presidency’ and shouldn’t be ‘lecturing’ Americans about the threat posed by domestic terrorism,” the Washington Post reports.

Said Trump: “So interesting to watch former President Bush, who is responsible for getting us into the quicksand of the Middle East (and then not winning!), as he lectures us that terrorists on the ‘right’ are a bigger problem than those from foreign countries that hate America, and that are pouring into our Country right now.”

He added: “If that is so, why was he willing to spend trillions of dollars and be responsible for the death of perhaps millions of people? He shouldn’t be lecturing us about anything. The World Trade Center came down during his watch. Bush led a failed and uninspiring presidency. He shouldn’t be lecturing anybody

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:41:55pm

re: #175 Dangerman

Trump Lashes Out at George W. Bush

Amazing: Must be the first time! Both Bush and Trump are right!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:43:36pm

re: #4 Teukka

GOOOD FUCKING GRIEF!

Oh God, do it! Please!!

amazon.com

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:44:30pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:45:29pm

re: #175 Dangerman

Trump Lashes Out at George W. Bush

Undead American Mussolini has “thoughts” about a predecessor he must “share.”

Sit down and shut up, syphilitic loser.*

*Trump, not Dangerman

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Teukka  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:45:43pm

“A federal judge has temporarily blocked the state of New York from forcing medical workers to be vaccinated after a group of health care workers sued, saying their Constitutional rights were violated. The court papers said all of the available vaccines employ aborted fetus cell lines in their testing, development or production.”

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:46:27pm

re: #180 Teukka

“A federal judge has temporarily blocked the state of New York from forcing medical workers to be vaccinated after a group of health care workers sued, saying their Constitutional rights were violated. The court papers said all of the available vaccines employ aborted fetus cell lines in their testing, development or production. “

Booooooo!!!

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:46:30pm

It’s unbelievable with what we spend on defense that the Capitol is not considered secure from domestic terrorism.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:48:07pm

re: #175 Dangerman

Trump Lashes Out at George W. Bush

He was reelected and TFG wasn’t. Neener, neener.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 6:53:28pm

re: #175 Dangerman

spiderman pointing finger at spiderman dot gif

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:02:42pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:06:49pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:11:25pm
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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:12:18pm

re: #184 The Ghost of a Flea

spiderman pointing finger at spiderman dot gif

First we have to side with Cheney.
Now Bush.

I guess Bush’s comment about domestic terrorists hit too close to home

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:13:20pm

re: #188 Dangerman

Each man accurately described why the other man should never appear in public without having shoes thrown at them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:15:13pm
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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:16:36pm

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:20:48pm

Isn’t it funny that the MAGAts aren’t questioning Woodward & Bernstein’s account of a president so completely unhinged and detached from reality that his own military leaders possibly went over his head to curb his insane impulses, but they’re definitely questioning those military leaders!

WHY DIDN’T YOU LET OUR DEAR LEADER NUKE CHYNA?!? WE ARE DESTROYING THE CONSTITION!!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:21:38pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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Well at least Shithead didn’t say Soros is calling the shots…

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:22:18pm

Rando

What fun to watch the worst president in American history waddle his way into a pissing match with the second worst, who’s only #2 because Trump’s a deranged traitor, a mass murderer and a disgrace to the human race.

And

The best part about watching these two public figures we despise fight is that we have no need to take sides.

Go at it boys.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:23:49pm

New Hampshire state Rep. William Marsh said he had formally left the Republican Party in protest of what he said was an emerging strain of anti-vaccination rhetoric coming from state House leaders, The Hill reports.

Said Marsh: “I have come to realize a majority of Republicans, both locally and in the New Hampshire House, hold values which no longer reflect traditional Republican values.”

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Teukka  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:27:14pm

re: #180 Teukka

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“A federal judge has temporarily blocked the state of New York from forcing medical workers to be vaccinated after a group of health care workers sued, saying their Constitutional rights were violated. The court papers said all of the available vaccines employ aborted fetus cell lines in their testing, development or production.”

Having read up on the issue, over/under on the same plaintiffs being in court when they have become infected and they don’t get offered certain treatments to deal with the infection, wanting the court to order the said treatments? Making either the present or earlier statements to the court problematic?

KmSYYl2AY7SUj7Nkn0OWJLL1tx2Rw+B2PrKbjjz5A0TiDDnTWbe+G1LGHSXtPlbobVbAACK8UafA1gxU8j9CPJyh4GXvLlGZ60urfd654WSpKrP3mwLxheyoVsgDyRD86cZ7SnQPKLi56JjuL128OBandriAMBBI

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:27:16pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

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Wait..
fake news or treason? Can’t be both.
I guess what it is is 100% true.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:27:52pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:28:11pm

re: #197 Dangerman

Wait..
fake news or treason? Can’t be both.
I guess what it is is 100% true.

It is a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:28:30pm

re: #197 Dangerman

Fakenews and Treason are just wordbricks from his negative pile.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:29:36pm

Another rando.

Let’s see. Woodward never lost a libel suit, Miley devoted his life to the military with no wisp of Flynn treason, Trump has never passed a fact check.

I know he’s babbling to the base, but I never stop being amazed that the GOP thinks he has even a hint of credibility to sixty percent non crazy Americans.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:30:18pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:30:57pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:33:41pm

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