“This Beautiful Chaos” - Trevor Gordon Hall - Acoustic Guitar

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“This Beautiful Chaos” - title track from the September 2021 full length album with GRAMMY Award-winning Corin Nelsen (SynchroSonic Productions)

New album is OUT NOW! Life is crazy and chaotic, but it is also beautiful. We have all lived through a lot these past few years. I hope this album brings some peace and solace.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:35:09pm

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:36:11pm
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rhuarc  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:38:16pm

re: #2 No Malarkey!

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Milley was right in doing what he did, but it was 100% wrong and he should resign and face any consequences necessary. Sometimes you need to fall on the sword for the good of all and face those consequences.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:41:20pm

QAnon isn’t a particularly far leap if you let people think bin Laden’s got the Mines of Moria.

Now apply backwards to the Frankfort School, the UN, Satanists, et cetera, et cetera.

The greebles change but the basic shape doesn’t.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:41:33pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:44:18pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:47:38pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:48:11pm
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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:51:08pm

re: #2 No Malarkey!

Presidential powers need to be scaled back. Particularly EO’s and pardons.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:51:11pm

re: #3 rhuarc

Milley was right in doing what he did, but it was 100% wrong and he should resign and face any consequences necessary. Sometimes you need to fall on the sword for the good of all and face those consequences.

How soon after disobeying a direct order should a military person resign? Should there be enough time for the president to find a replacement that will do it?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:53:06pm

re: #8 jaunte

The homology is so close I now suspect Hitler has also clogged a low flow toilet and then turned that experience into moral outrage that Martin Borman made a tape recording of.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:54:25pm

re: #11 The Ghost of a Flea

I expect we’ll have similar flatulence stories coming from White House insiders.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:55:44pm
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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 7:56:15pm

re: #2 No Malarkey!

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If I may
Not authority
Ability

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:00:07pm
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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:05:52pm

San Diego just released their first count 60 No/39 Yes

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:07:07pm

Why do I have to keep posting this?

pinterest.com

You’re going to police a country this big with 2,500 troops?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:08:04pm
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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:09:37pm

Napa County over 70% NO

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:10:06pm

Orange County 58% NO

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:10:14pm

Orange County 58% No

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:11:07pm

Ventura County 64% NO

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:11:09pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:11:41pm

OMG THIS THREAD. I. AM. DYING.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:11:50pm

Santa Clarita 78% NO

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:13:13pm

re: #25 JOE 🥓

These are early vote counts, are they not?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:13:14pm

Merced County 52% NO

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:14:13pm
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calochortus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:14:19pm

Bear in mind that the numbers coming in now are the people who voted early by mail and are likely to be more heavily Democratic than those who voted in person today. Even so, I’m happy the numbers are running so heavily “no.”

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:14:26pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:14:31pm

So far from San Diego County:

LARRY A. ELDER (REP)LARRY A. ELDER, REP 214,515 43.02%

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:15:02pm

19% in statewide 64 NO 35 YES

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:15:23pm

re: #14 Dangerman

If I may
Not authority
Ability

There are other lower level people who have the power to initiate a nuclear war: the commander of a nuclear sub can launch missiles without orders from higher authorities, if he can persuade 2 other senior officers to concur. Downstairs there was mention of Vasili Arkhipov, who personally prevented his commander from starting WWIII because the commander thought that they were already at war.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:15:41pm

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

These are early vote counts, are they not?

Yes, but they represent at least 2/3 of the vote — we vote mostly by mail and dropbox these days.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:15:46pm

re: #29 calochortus

San Diego County:

Ballots Cast 812,530
Polls Ballots 22,641
Mail Ballots 789,889
Registered Voters 1,971,326

However, mail ballots will still come in. They just have to be postmarked by today.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:16:19pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:16:27pm

Early results 21% reporting, NO is at 66%, Jenner is at 1.2% lol
nytimes.com

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:16:31pm

LA County 76 NO 23 YES

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:17:29pm

Fifteen minutes and Steve Kornacki is already making my ears hurt.

That is all.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:18:13pm

No up 70-30 statewide. Elder will soon announce he won a landslide victory.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:19:00pm

Statewide the current count only covers 8.1% of the precincts, and the results are partial even in many of these.

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calochortus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:19:17pm

Yes, votes will be reported in 3 groups. Early votes, in person voting, and the late arriving and provisional votes. If it’s a wide margin, we should know after the first 2 groups are reported.

Freepers were reporting long lines at polling places, which is more likely to be because no one really planned on lots of in person voters than because the conservatives were out in force, because everyone got mail-in ballots.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:19:24pm

No just bumped to 70% with 44% reporting

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:19:52pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

Ironic dress that’s mildly saucy

versus

Attempt to undermine general health of the nation because actually eugenics is good

Both sides is part of the ratchet: leftist did Thing, therefore more egregious Thing with body count is not really bad.

Although my favorite will always be “everybody that died under capitalism actually died under a specific form of capitalism, so capitalism didn’t kill them and therefore isn’t a bad as communism” this one is pretty fucking good.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:21:26pm

re: #39 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Fifteen minutes and Steve Kornacki is already making my ears hurt.

That is all.

And it’s contra “cawsta,” not contra “coasta” county.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:22:22pm

I don’t count my chickens until morning:

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:24:47pm

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I don’t count my chickens until morning:

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Keep in mind that those large northern and eastern counties are sparsely populated. “Land doesn’t vote, people do.”

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:25:32pm

Look at the millions wasted on supporting and defending against this stunt.

$45.2 million supporting the recall.
$83 million opposing the recall.

latimes.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:25:52pm

re: #47 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Keep in mind that those large northern and eastern counties are sparsely populated. “Land doesn’t vote, people do.”

Correct. But even San Diego County is now down to only 60% No.

I expect this vote to be close.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:27:11pm

re: #3 rhuarc

No. General Milley is a hero. He stood up to a violent dictator. He saved our democracy. This is about Trump’s malfeasance and pushing an insurrection. Keep the focus on him. When does he face consequences for what happened on January 6th?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:28:38pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:29:09pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:29:37pm

re: #36 jaunte

Thank goodness!!! Elders can go back to rejoicing about Trayvon Martin’s murder and arguing that descendants of White slave owners should be compensated.

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ipsos  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:29:53pm

re: #49 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Correct. But even San Diego County is now down to only 60% No.

I expect this vote to be close.

I don’t. There aren’t anywhere near enough votes left to be counted to give Yes the win, and probably not even enough to get Yes below 59 or 60. I expect to wake up tomorrow to a final of about 62-38 Yes.

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:30:04pm

re: #45 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

And it’s contra “cawsta,” not contra “coasta” county.

When Fox first bought a station in Austin, mid 90’s, early 2000’s, they brought in a news anchor with an Hispanic surname.

Really, he could not speak a word of Spanish, and pronounced a County down in the Rio Grande Valley as Hee-dle-go instead of Hee-dawl-go.

Hilarity ensued. He lasted just over a month.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:30:36pm

re: #49 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Correct. But even San Diego County is now down to only 60% No.

I expect this vote to be close.

I refuse to watch the vote tallies — cannot stand the uncertainty. Too many times non-experts have been led astray because they did not understand the demographics of the outstanding votes vs those already counted.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:30:52pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:32:09pm

re: #50 Patricia Kayden

No. General Milley is a hero. He stood up to a violent dictator. He saved our democracy. This is about Trump’s malfeasance and pushing an insurrection. Keep the focus on him. When does he face consequences for what happened on January 6th?

Steve Schmidt was on Deadline this afternoon and he was livid (well, he’s always livid) about how Milley had overstepped his authority and it was the worst military thing that had happened ever. The rest of the panel didn’t quite see it that way…

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:32:17pm

re: #55 austin_blue

When I first moved to Houston with my family from Venezuela I was puzzled to be corrected on the pronunciation of San Felipe Street.
“It’s San Fillipee, dummy!”

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:33:14pm

Elder getting 41% of the replacement vote with 56% vote in.

He’s STILL LOSING!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:33:32pm

re: #48 jaunte

Look at the millions wasted on supporting and defending against this stunt.

or costing…

According to Weber, California has spent $276 million as of Tuesday and indicated the cost is projected to exceed that amount.

“The budget committee and the state assembly acknowledges that it can go higher,” Weber said. “We could see $300 million or more spent on this election.”

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:34:53pm

re: #61 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s not counting all of the lawsuits that haven’t been filed yet.

spit

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:35:04pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:35:13pm

re: #61 Dread Pirate Ron

I hope there are numerous press conferences laying all that on Larry Elder and his cohorts.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:35:22pm

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

I refuse to watch the vote tallies — cannot stand the uncertainty. Too many times non-experts have been led astray because they did not understand the demographics of the outstanding votes vs those already counted.

There’s a big jar of jelly beans
2 colors
How many of each?
The order they are counted is meaningless
Intermediate tallies or declarations are meaningless
The horserace is meaningless

The last total, the final total, the total is all that matters.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:36:53pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:37:56pm
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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:38:10pm

NBC called it for no.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:38:33pm

NBC CALLS IT—RECALL FAILS!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:38:48pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:41:17pm

re: #69 JOE 🥓

NBC CALLS IT—RECALL FAILS!

Beethoven’s Symphony No. 9 “Ode to Joy”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:41:19pm

re: #65 Dangerman

There’s a big jar of jelly beans
2 colors
How many of each?
The order they are counted is meaningless
Intermediate tallies or declarations are meaningless
The horserace is meaningless

The last total, the final total, the total is all that matters.

That’s true — but experts can read results based on a small percentage if an election is a blowout and they know where the votes are coming from. For the rest of us — intermediate numbers are meaningless.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:41:37pm
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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:41:54pm

re: #59 jaunte

When I first moved to Houston with my family from Venezuela I was puzzled to be corrected on the pronunciation of San Felipe Street.
“It’s San Fillipee, dummy!”

You want to get into the pronunciation of streets in New Orleans? It’s a fucking goat rope!

Bur-GUN-dy. TERP-si-core. CALEE-ope. YOU-terp.

And here in CenTex we have have Lake BUCK-an-on and MAN-chack Street (spelled Manchaca).

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ipsos  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:42:58pm

re: #65 Dangerman

If you know there are 100 jelly beans in the jar and 70 of them have already been counted, if 51 are red and 19 are black, then you know black “wins,” right?

That’s about where California was based just on the mail vote.

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Dangerman  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:43:41pm

re: #72 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s true — but experts can read results based on a small percentage if an election is a blowout and they know where the votes are coming from. For the rest of us — intermediate numbers are meaningless.

That is true but still they are projecting.
The count is the count as long as it takes.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:44:17pm

re: #74 austin_blue

I remember Manchak/Manchaca from my time at UT. Always a puzzler.

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darthstar  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:44:54pm

Fuck you, GOP.
Love, California

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:45:02pm

Strange: Whenever the GOP suffers some crushing defeat, it feels something like it did when the Berlin Wall came down.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:45:31pm

Caitlyn Jenner at 1.2% 😂

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:45:39pm

How are the R’s going to spin a 40 point loss? That’s kinda… ummm… big.

Ooh, ooh, I know, blame it on the N(clang!).

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:46:10pm

re: #81 austin_blue

How are the R’s going to spin a 40 point loss? That’s kinda… ummm… big.

Ooh, ooh, I know, blame it not he N(clang!).

Massive voter fraud.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:47:05pm

Try watching this music video from back in the 1980’s while baked:

The Alan Parsons Project - Stereotomy

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:47:39pm

And I don’t have to do texting tomorrow. I spent all day today poking a “send” button, and dealing with weird questions and I’m tired.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:49:05pm

One lesson that can be learned tonight is that Democrats are still a motivated bloc of voters, they’ll show up in these times when it matters.

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:49:24pm

re: #78 darthstar

Fuck you, GOP.
Love, California

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That’s not a win, that’s an annihilation.

Hard to spin that one.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:50:41pm

They’re playing Boots
electelder.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:51:10pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Strange: Whenever the GOP suffers some crushing defeat, it feels something like it did when the Berlin Wall came down.

Wingnuts and Soviet gerontocrats are homoousian in their contempt for everyone else and their fear of releasing power. When authoritarians like that win, you know they’re going to take as much power as they can grasp without regard to their mandate or the actual needs of the situation. Left and right are largely meaningless when your base assumption is that people don’t matter except as machined parts in the power system that keeps you at the top.

So when they lose, it always feels enormous because any win is the threat of a snowballing mass of cruel, stupid horseshit.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:51:19pm

I don’t think Nancy Sinatra would authorize.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:51:46pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:53:01pm

Abel Maldonado continues to mislead Larry Elder supporters.
electelder.com

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:53:05pm

Democrats can gerrymander as well.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:53:13pm

re: #75 ipsos

If you know there are 100 jelly beans in the jar and 70 of them have already been counted, if 51 are red and 19 are black, then you know black “wins,” right?

That’s about where California was based just on the mail vote.

Of course, you don’t know there are 100 jelly beans because there are mail-in ballots that won’t be arriving till later this week. However, it appears they won’t be needed to determine the results.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:55:09pm

re: #17 austin_blue

Why do I have to keep posting this?

pinterest.com

You’re going to police a country this big with 2,500 troops?

There were approximately 2500 cops at the capitol on 1/6.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 8:56:40pm

re: #92 No Malarkey!

For the last 10 years I’ve lived in a gerrymandered county of a congressional district, the Democrats hogged all the left-leaning votes up valley at the ski areas for the Boulder district. That is going to change in the next redistricting.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:00:45pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:03:50pm

Who is the next R to run for CA governor, next year?

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:05:18pm

re: #59 jaunte

When I first moved to Houston with my family from Venezuela I was puzzled to be corrected on the pronunciation of San Felipe Street.
“It’s San Fillipee, dummy!”

In NYC, Houston Street is pronounced how-stun.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:05:31pm

Kentucky local school districts are choosing to mandate masks with the SBOE mask mandate ending.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:06:17pm

re: #97 jaunte

Who is the next R to run for CA governor, next year?

A loser.

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Citizen K  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:06:35pm

Your regular reminder that Dems are always caught in a ‘Heads, GOP wins, Tails, Dems lose’ situation where the press is concerned.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:06:45pm

re: #97 jaunte

Who is the next R to run for CA governor, next year?

My guess is that Falcouner may run next year, despite his shit showing this time. Maybe someone from the House if the redistricting committee erases a red district?

Of course, it’s also entirely possible that we will have two Democrats on the general election ballot. It’s already happened twice in senate elections and a couple times in down ballot races

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:06:45pm

re: #94 sagehen

There were approximately 2500 cops at the capitol on 1/6.

Chicago has 12000 police officers, 234 square miles, and 2.7 million people. Anyone thinking 2,500 troops could control Afghanistan is delusional — but that said, there were 300,000 Afghan soldiers. It’s possible the 2,500 troops might have been sufficient to manage the Army and help it succeed (or at least not collapse) in its continuing battle with the Taliban, but only if the 2,500 remained there permanently.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:06:47pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:08:02pm

re: #97 jaunte

Who is the next R to run for CA governor, next year?

Ron Jeremy.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:08:29pm

Whew!

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:08:36pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

He may be overexposed.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:10:11pm

re: #78 darthstar

Fuck you, GOP.
Love, California

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Is it any wonder that working on projects in Butte, Shasta, Trinity, Modoc, Sutter, Yuba, Calaveras, El Dorado, Amador, Tuolumne Counties took years off my life? Those people are cray-cray—all those freedumb-loving “Jefferson” peeps and a few more that don’t have a proverbial pot to piss in. (Fortunately, projects in many other sane counties helped maintain my equilibrium.)

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:11:04pm

re: #97 jaunte

Who is the next R to run for CA governor, next year?

Whomever the Republicans put up they will lose.

LMAO seeing right wing sites saying Elder will run for Senator in 2022. Just the thought of a GOP primary between Elder and Steven Miller…

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:12:52pm

re: #81 austin_blue

How are the R’s going to spin a 40 point loss? That’s kinda… ummm… big.

Ooh, ooh, I know, blame it on the N(clang!).

There aren’t all that many N(clang)’s in Cali.

They’ll have to blame it on Hispanics.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:12:57pm

Happily anticipating Kaitlin Jenner’s retirement from public life.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:13:24pm

re: #97 jaunte

Who is the next R to run for CA governor, next year?

Since he did so well with the recall, I’d expect it to be Elder.

(The tone is sarcastic, but I wouldn’t be surprised.)

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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:14:10pm

re: #108 BeachDem

Speaking of South Carolina, which we actually were not…

I’m hearing that somebody was charged for shooting Murdaugh?

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:14:31pm

re: #107 jaunte

And it’s kind of hard to mount a political campaign from jail. He’s still locked up on pre-trial detention for rape with a $6.6 million bond.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:15:26pm

re: #109 JOE 🥓

Whomever the Republicans put up they will lose.

LMAO seeing right wing sites saying Elder will run for Senator in 2022. Just the thought of a GOP primary between Elder and Steven Miller…

I’m not convinced that any Republican will make it to the general election unless there’s only one Republican in the primary. Even then, with only 25% of the electorate, they could be pretty easily frozen out

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:16:30pm

re: #94 sagehen

There were approximately 2500 cops at the capitol on 1/6.

Well, that’s my point innit?

Why didn’t the SecState put the map up and say “What the fuck did you expect us to do when your guy left us with 2,500 troops to protect half of the land east of the Mississippi?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:16:35pm

re: #115 KGxvi

I’m not convinced that any Republican will make it to the general election unless there’s only one Republican in the primary. Even then, with only 25% of the electorate, they could be pretty easily frozen out

The last 2 Senate General Elections have been between 2 Democrats.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:17:11pm
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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:20:16pm

re: #117 JOE 🥓

The last 2 Senate General Elections have been between 2 Democrats.

As was LT Governor in 2018. Will probably see one more statewide down ballot race do the same. Controller, I think is an open office this time

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:21:50pm

Since the subject of troop numbers in Afghanistan has come up again, I strongly recommend digging into Donald Rumsfeld’s personal notions that an occupying force could be vastly reduced in size if instead of holding positions full time teams were constantly moving around on the road systems.

People should throw shoes at his gravestone.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:25:25pm

re: #92 No Malarkey!

Democrats can gerrymander as well.

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I hate war, but sometimes you have to fight.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:26:32pm
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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:31:11pm

re: #113 ckkatz

Speaking of South Carolina, which we actually were not…

I’m hearing that somebody was charged for shooting Murdaugh?

In a stunning turn of events, a South Carolina man was charged Tuesday with shooting troubled attorney Alex Murdaugh in the head in an assisted-suicide plot to funnel $10 million in insurance money to his surviving son.

The alleged conspiracy was laid out in court documents released after Curtis Edward Smith, 61, was collared for the botched Sept. 4 shooting, which Murdaugh, 53, survived.

“Mr. Murdaugh supplied Mr. Smith with a firearm and directed Mr. Smith to shoot him in the head,” the affidavit said.

The affidavit indicates that Murdaugh confessed to the scheme on Monday and named Smith as the shooter. Smith then admitted to being there and getting rid of the gun, the document says.

thedailybeast.com

need to check the local rags now…

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:32:12pm

re: #101 Citizen K

What percent of voters does it take to do a recall?

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:32:52pm

re: #102 KGxvi

My guess is that Falcouner may run next year, despite his shit showing this time. Maybe someone from the House if the redistricting committee erases a red district?

Of course, it’s also entirely possible that we will have two Democrats on the general election ballot. It’s already happened twice in senate elections and a couple times in down ballot races

That jackass John Cox has an ego the size of VY Canis Majoris. I guarantee you he will at least try again next year.

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:33:27pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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This is inside the beltway Sci-fi fan fic. Stephen is a hardcore Deadhead, even writing a book called Brokedown Palace.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:33:54pm

Looks like about 40% or so of voters didn’t vote for a replacement (at least so far). And there’s still a Democrat nobody has ever heard of in second place

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:35:58pm

re: #125 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

That jackass John Cox has an ego the size of VY Canis Majoris. I guarantee you he will at least try again next year.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:36:46pm

re: #124 Belafon

What percent of voters does it take to do a recall?

For statewide offices, 12% of voters from the last election. For local offices, legislators and judges its 20%.

There’s also a time limit to collect signatures. Which got extended by a judge due to the pandemic (I think it was a bullshit decision, but it is what it is)

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:38:09pm
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Jay C  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:38:13pm

re: #124 Belafon

What percent of voters does it take to do a recall?

12% of the voters for the relevant office in the last election for it.
For the Newsom recall, Wiki sez the required number was 1,495M or so.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:38:39pm

re: #125 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

That jackass John Cox has an ego the size of VY Canis Majoris. I guarantee you he will at least try again next year.

He’s at less than 5% right now, so I’m guessing his political career is over. But if he wants to waste more of his kids’ inheritance, sure, why not?

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:38:48pm

All right, I’m off for the rack. Got a Zoster vaccine today, and it really fucking hurts. A lot. Worse than the the COVID-19 jabs.

One of the reasons was that the needle was a much bigger bore than that used for the Moderna vaccines.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:40:50pm

re: #130 Belafon

I asked the optometrist about a prescription for contacts and they told me that my eyesight wasn’t that bad. Also, coming to glasses in my late 30s, I don’t think I’d do too well with contacts

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:42:09pm

More on Murdaugh:

Warrants for the arrest of 61-year-old Curtis Edward “Eddie” Smith - who has been described by sources close to the Murdaugh family as Alex’s “personal drug dealer” - named Murdaugh as a “co-defendant” in his own roadside shooting ten days ago.

The 53-year-old lawyer - whose prestigious family and powerful law firm are in the midst of a spectacular unspooling - appears to have arranged the entire incident in the hopes of securing a $10 million life insurance payout for his son, Buster Murdaugh.

In fact, Alex Murdaugh has admitted as much, according to investigators with the S.C. State Law Enforcement Division (SLED)

fitsnews.com

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:42:20pm

Elder probably throwing a fit that the GOP vote split 24 ways on the replacement ballot

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:42:50pm

re: #134 KGxvi

I asked the optometrist about a prescription for contacts and they told me that my eyesight wasn’t that bad. Also, coming to glasses in my late 30s, I don’t think I’d do too well with contacts

I never really wanted to stick something in my eyes. I’m too lazy to properly take care of all that stuff.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:43:14pm

re: #130 Belafon

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I have double astigmatisms in both eyes. Can’t wear contacts.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:43:46pm

re: #136 JOE 🥓

Elder probably throwing a fit that the GOP vote split 24 ways on the replacement ballot

“I would have won had there only been one Republican,” not understanding how the recall works.

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:44:25pm

I hated contacts. They always hurt my eyes.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:44:51pm
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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:45:51pm
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Citizen K  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:46:36pm

re: #130 Belafon

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ckkatz  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:47:08pm

Well, time for me to head to bed.

G’nite all!

And to the guy who invented the zero,
Thanks for nothing

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:48:07pm

re: #134 KGxvi

I asked the optometrist about a prescription for contacts and they told me that my eyesight wasn’t that bad. Also, coming to glasses in my late 30s, I don’t think I’d do too well with contacts

I got contacts when I turned 21. It took me forever to used to them and then after awhile I started getting chronic eye infections so I switched to 1-day from 2-week contacts and those went away. I had LASIK done when I was 38.

Some people never get used to them. Some people have conditions where they can’t wear them at all. Other get them and have complications. If I was someone coming into needing glasses in my 30s I’d just deal with it or wait until I was a LASIK or PRK candidate.

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:48:18pm

re: #134 KGxvi

I asked the optometrist about a prescription for contacts and they told me that my eyesight wasn’t that bad. Also, coming to glasses in my late 30s, I don’t think I’d do too well with contacts

I didn’t need glasses until I hit 50. I got some glasses that were heavy as shit, well, actually a couple of sets. I also had some odd differences between my left and right eyes. The glasses I got in 2017 are ideal. They weigh three grams, have hardened lenses, and are non-scratch.

It’s a beautiful thing.

And that’s it, I’m out.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:48:56pm

I am so happy that my former state voted NO and that Elder won the biggest loser prize.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:49:00pm

re: #141 Belafon

Did anyone see the Elder commercial where he waved around a bunch of c-notes?

It was so bad that in a real election it would have ended his campaign as a complete joke.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:50:07pm

Hey did Lin Wood, Sidney Powell or Crackhead Mike chime in yet about the stolen recall election?

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:51:47pm

re: #149 JOE 🥓

Hey did Lin Wood, Sidney Powell or Crackhead Mike chime in yet about the stolen recall election?

Considering Elders’ “rigged vote” website that was put together months ago copied from Wood’s lawsuits, I think they already did.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:52:13pm

My eye issues are astigmatisms, so I’ve basically become nearsighted. Bad enough that I have to wear glasses while driving now. Thinking about lasik, but recently diagnosed as diabetic so I need to investigate if that’s an issue long term

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:52:56pm

24k people voted for Billboard Lady.

Please don’t reproduce.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:53:54pm

re: #123 BeachDem

The affidavit indicates that Murdaugh confessed to the scheme on Monday and named Smith as the shooter. Smith then admitted to being there and getting rid of the gun, the document says.

thedailybeast.com

need to check the local rags now…

(Christian Slater? Bryan Cranston? Dylan McDermott? more casting ideas invited).

And still no one’s charged for killing the mom and older son?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:57:54pm

re: #153 sagehen

(Christian Slater? Bryan Cranston? Dylan McDermott? more casting ideas invited).

And still no one’s charged for killing the mom and older son?

L&O SVU can fit the storyline in this season, starting with the boating accident. Maybe a 2 parter even?

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:58:59pm

re: #152 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

24k people voted for Billboard Lady.

Please don’t reproduce.

Who is Billboard Lady?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 9:59:51pm

re: #155 Belafon

Who is Billboard Lady?

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:00:41pm

re: #155 Belafon

Who is Billboard Lady?

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Moe Avattar  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:04:51pm

re: #152 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

24k people voted for Billboard Lady.

Please don’t reproduce.

Don’t worry, i probably won’t.
Jerk.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:08:27pm

re: #6 jaunte

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Good thing nothing happened on Jan. 6th

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:10:14pm

re: #156 JOE 🥓

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“If you’re going to be a boob about the election, you might as well make it three.”

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:10:35pm

re: #11 The Ghost of a Flea

The homology is so close I now suspect Hitler has also clogged a low flow toilet and then turned that experience into moral outrage that Martin Borman made a tape recording of.

I had to flush it 7 times. Give me a break

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:12:25pm

re: #153 sagehen

(Christian Slater? Bryan Cranston? Dylan McDermott? more casting ideas invited).

And still no one’s charged for killing the mom and older son?

Patience, grasshopper. The worms are about to turn (on each other.)

Gotta be James Corden as Murdaugh.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:15:01pm

re: #23 gocart mozart

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I don’t care
do you?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:16:51pm

re: #30 jaunte

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I am very much behind this.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:21:33pm

re: #134 KGxvi

I asked the optometrist about a prescription for contacts and they told me that my eyesight wasn’t that bad. Also, coming to glasses in my late 30s, I don’t think I’d do too well with contacts

My eyesight sucks, but I have such an unbelievably strong ( and, apparently, unconquerable) blink reflex, they have an almost impossible time getting drops into my eyes or performing glaucoma tests. At my last optometrist visit a few months ago, the eye-doc said, “I’m never fitting you for contacts. I’d have to pry your eyes open with a crowbar.”

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piratedan  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:27:47pm

re: #157 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

if only she could summarize Proust……..

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mmmirele  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:38:33pm

I am not a TV/movie/news whatever person. Usually, the only time I watch the boob tube or a movie is when I’m visiting my mother’s house and me and my brother watch sports and/or monster movies.

Tonight I watched “LuLaRich” which is a documentary (3 hours, 4 episodes) on Amazon Prime. It’s about the rise and diminishment of a MLM called LuLaRoe that really hit it big selling “buttery-soft leggings.” I remember hearing about the buttery soft leggings, but I’m not small, and in the days when I worked in the office, as a senior staff person, I could wear jeans and a nice blouse, but leggings were right out. So I’d look and not buy.

Well, it turns out LuLaRoe was not all it was cracked up to be. A lot of women lost money. Some marriages were busted up. And the state of Washington got $4.75 million out of LuLaRoe earlier this year in a settlement. Washington State was accusing LuLaRoe of being a pyramid scheme, and they had a good reason to suspect it because of the way LuLaRoe’s initial compensation plan was set up. Basically, you’d make a lot more money recruiting sellers than actually selling stuff.

In the end, it’s like so much stuff in America, the grift goes on, albeit diminished, there’s a slap on the hand, and a lot of people get hurt. It’s not a heartwarming story at all. But if you want to understand in a different way how we as Americans got here—LuLaRich will help.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:44:42pm

This is pretty catchy. :)

vm.tiktok.com

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:46:14pm

So California is now the only state without a “high” level of covid transmission. Along with Puerto Rico. I’ve been spending time on the recall and not following covid reporting. Another reason, I think, that once Californians noticed the recall they turned out in force to defeat it. Any repug elected would have put an end to all that.

Vaccines, indoor masking, social distancing. Rinse and repeat.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:46:17pm
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Moe Avattar  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:48:13pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 14, 2021 • 10:56:47pm
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darthstar  Sep 14, 2021 • 11:10:37pm

re: #86 austin_blue

That’s not a win, that’s an annihilation.

Hard to spin that one.

They will try, though…they will try. This was the sixth effort to recall Newsome, apparently. Just the first one to get enough signatures to force an election.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 11:11:37pm

Awwww poor Larry whining that he’s a victim of…

ELDER ABUSE…BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 14, 2021 • 11:27:29pm

re: #173 darthstar

They will try, though…they will try. This was the sixth effort to recall Newsome, apparently. Just the first one to get enough signatures to force an election.

I’m pretty sure there were also failed attempts on Jerry Brown.

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darthstar  Sep 14, 2021 • 11:29:20pm

Fuckin’ Pete…he and Jen Psaki never fail to entertain with their quick wit and response to stupid fucking questions…

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JOE 🥓  Sep 14, 2021 • 11:33:13pm

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2021 • 11:36:39pm

Look at what that evil Governor Newsom did to California. He made it ORANGE!

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 12:13:30am

So I take the night off to go see Shang-Chi and come back to see that the hot takes are already flying about how, even though the Dems kept Newsom in office by over a 2-to-1 margin, this is somehow a bad thing because…right, because they’re Dems and the media can’t have people thinking that winning elections means anything good.

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plansbandc  Sep 15, 2021 • 12:19:09am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Everything Dems do = Always wrong

That’s the media equation.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 12:21:14am

re: #180 plansbandc

Everything Dems do = Always wrong

That’s the media equation.

Newsom wins by landslide: “Dems are out of touch with voters.”

Newsom wins by a hair: “Dems are in serious danger next year.”

Elder wins by a hair: “Dems are gonna lose big next year.”

Elder wins by a landslide: “ALL HAIL OUR NEW OVERLORDS!!!”

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 12:27:39am

re: #142 Belafon

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Apparently when you make it clear to voters that the recall is not just a popularity contest, but deciding whether to keep Newsom for another year or spin the roulette wheel on which bugfuck crazy Republican will replace him, people decide they’re cool with keeping him for another year.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 2:04:45am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 2:06:40am

re: #183 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The notes claim:

Hoagy Carmichael Orchestra (Musical group)
Hoagy Carmichael (vocalist)
Hoagy Carmichael (director)
Bix Beiderbecke (instrumentalist : cornet)
Eddie Lang (instrumentalist : guitar)
Joe Venuti (instrumentalist : violin)
Jack Teagarden (instrumentalist : trombone)
Jimmy Dorsey (instrumentalist : alto saxophone)
Bud Freeman (instrumentalist : tenor saxophone)
Chauncey Morehouse (instrumentalist : drums)
Loren L. Watson (session supervisor)
………………………………………
Recorded - September 15, 1930 New York, New York. 155 E. 24th St. Studio 2

That’s quite an all-star lineup for a single.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 2:27:19am

Well, it’s morning so I can finally count my chickens:

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 15, 2021 • 2:38:52am

This is going around Facebook already.

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Jay C  Sep 15, 2021 • 2:44:49am

re: #185 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, it’s morning so I can finally count my chickens:

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With one dumb cluck (we’ll call him “Larry”) ending up roasted in the pan….
So basically ending up 64 - 36: not a bad result (for the right side) - though as pointed out in re: #180 plansbandc, I’m sure the “MSM” will find some way to tarnish the silver lining…

Interesting figure I saw in the NYT interactive: Orange County went “No” by a 53 - 47 margin: wow, how times have changed.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Sep 15, 2021 • 2:57:27am

I mentioned here a few times that I had to paper file with the IRS for 2020 and I sent it in in May. For months nothing. I called the IRS 4 or 5 days ago, and was told “wait a month and call back”.

I just checked today… and it seems like they have finally processed my return. No info on if/when I’ll ever get the refund.

It took 4 months and 4 days for them to process it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:08:28am

The CA GQP refused to endorse a candidate because they feared that whoever they picked would get shit on by their God-Emperor in favor of whichever one nuzzled his taint just how he likes it. So they got stuck with a radioactive shitstorm of a candidate who managed to sink his own campaign in less than a month. Such that a vote that some pundits were declaring might take days to count was over and done with less than an hour after the polls closed. They can’t even argue that it was a close race and that Newsom barely kept his job, because it never was and he won by nearly 2/3 of the total vote.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:17:38am

Oh, and something to bear in mind when you start hearing MAGAts and pundits try to claim that the vote in CA was “close” or that Elder did “better than expected”:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:23:48am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:27:42am

Is anyone surprised

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:30:57am

re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Is anyone surprised

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I think the only surprise for me is that Murdaugh intended for the guy to kill him and only ended up in the hospital with a superficial wound. I’d figured that the whole thing was a staged “hit” intended to dispel suspicions about his involvement in the murders of his family while also gaining him some sympathy from the public.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:34:58am

Really, the news only furthers the reality that when it comes to criminals, the guys you think might be criminal masterminds turn out to be absolute fucking morons, while the folks you’d never suspect of evil turn out to be more devious than Prof. Moriarty.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:37:07am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:39:51am

Very nice to see the recall effort in California failed and the state GOP utterly beclowned itself. The “party of fiscal responsibility” blowing $300,000,000 in taxpayer money, only to get their asses handed to them.

You love to see it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:46:17am

re: #195 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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They can’t claim that the race was “rigged” or “stolen” with a straight face, and nobody’s really going to buy that Larry was in any real danger of replacing Newsom, so they’re left with bitter griping about how liberals are “hypocrites” for not embracing the CA GQP’s Uncle Ruckus.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:54:40am

re: #197 Targetpractice

They can’t claim that the race was “rigged” or “stolen” with a straight face, and nobody’s really going to buy that Larry was in any real danger of replacing Newsom, so they’re left with bitter griping about how liberals are “hypocrites” for not embracing the CA GQP’s Uncle Ruckus.

They’ll still claim it was rigged and stolen, because that’s the modern GQP playbook, but nobody who is based in reality will believe it. It’ll play to the nutters who originated the recall in the first place, though.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:55:46am

re: #198 Dopamine Fish

They’ll still claim it was rigged and stolen, because that’s the modern GQP playbook, but nobody who is based in reality will believe it. It’ll play to the nutters who originated the recall in the first place, though.

What’s not going to help their case much is that Elder’s already conceded. I wonder if that will come to a shock to all the MAGAts he managed to snooker yesterday with his “WE FOUND FRAUD!!!” website yesterday?

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steve_davis  Sep 15, 2021 • 3:56:34am

re: #39 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Fifteen minutes and Steve Kornacki is already making my ears hurt.

That is all.

well, keep in mind he did spend the afternoon being pulled out of some poor bastard’s attic, where he’d apparently eaten his way through a bag of crab legs.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:00:12am

re: #199 Targetpractice

What’s not going to help their case much is that Elder’s already conceded. I wonder if that will come to a shock to all the MAGAts he managed to snooker yesterday with his “WE FOUND FRAUD!!!” website yesterday?

Oh, that’s interesting. I wasn’t following all the news out of CA last night, so I didn’t know that. That’s definitely going to complicate matters. It’s hard to claim the election was rigged when your guy openly admits that he lost - part of the reason the Big Lie still has traction, because Trump never openly admitted he lost except in very guarded ways that the true believers were able to ignore.

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steve_davis  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:02:50am

re: #65 Dangerman

There’s a big jar of jelly beans
2 colors
How many of each?
The order they are counted is meaningless
Intermediate tallies or declarations are meaningless
The horserace is meaningless

The last total, the final total, the total is all that matters.

if you’ve counted 75% of the jellybeans and 60% were one color, based on trends, you could make a damned good prediction about which one was winning.

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steve_davis  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:04:38am

re: #74 austin_blue

You want to get into the pronunciation of streets in New Orleans? It’s a fucking goat rope!

Bur-GUN-dy. TERP-si-core. CALEE-ope. YOU-terp.

And here in CenTex we have have Lake BUCK-an-on and MAN-chack Street (spelled Manchaca).

Vetruns.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:25:05am

re: #199 Targetpractice

What’s not going to help their case much is that Elder’s already conceded. I wonder if that will come to a shock to all the MAGAts he managed to snooker yesterday with his “WE FOUND FRAUD!!!” website yesterday?

I’m surprised; I thought he would do a Trump, announce he really won, and grift off of his phony battle against “voter fraud.”

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:30:27am

re: #175 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’m pretty sure there were also failed attempts on Jerry Brown.

if i recall, someone has tried to do it to every governor every single term
of course most arent successful in getting qualified

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:30:28am

re: #204 No Malarkey!

I’m surprised; I thought he would do a Trump, announce he really won, and grift off of his phony battle against “voter fraud.”

Trump was well-coached by his handlers. Larry Elder is just a run-of-the-mill GQP idiot.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:40:02am

Why Newsom won, because he took a reality based approach to Covid: “In contrast, Californians are dying of COVID-19 at a lower rate today (103 per day) than last summer (140 per day), despite the fact that Delta is twice as transmissible as the initial strain of SARS-CoV-2 that was circulating in 2020. That’s the kind of progress you would expect after vaccination.”
news.yahoo.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:40:29am

re: #128 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

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steve_davis  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:46:08am

re: #176 darthstar

Fuckin’ Pete…he and Jen Psaki never fail to entertain with their quick wit and response to stupid fucking questions…

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The correct immediate response would have been “Because Tesla isn’t tailpiped” and then just stop talking.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:46:36am

re: #101 Citizen K

Kasie Hunt is a whole hack. What a ridiculous take on the failed recall.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:48:40am

Another anti-vaccine pastor got an early invite to Heaven. sorryantivaxxer.com

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:49:03am

re: #202 steve_davis

if you’ve counted 75% of the jellybeans and 60% were one color, based on trends, you could make a damned good prediction about which one was winning.

yes you are all right
at some point you can predict.
its still not the count
not the result.
not what gets certified.

trump has started to weaponize the entirely made for and by TV election night ‘horserace’ with ‘i was ahead then something (unfair) must have happened’ and ‘they should stop counting now because im ahead’

he has caused people to now think and treat these election night ‘trends’ and predictions as if they matter

imo there is no reason to opine at 8:05 pm what can most probably be a surety at 12pm the next day

and if it takes longer - well it takes longer. there is absolutely no need to know who won on election night or even the next day. you know it when you finished counting all the votes cast.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:54:40am
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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:57:32am
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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:58:47am
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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 4:59:33am
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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:02:58am

re: #214 Dangerman

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Yeah, I figure that’s going to be the story they go with: “He got lucky.” Not that voters soundly rejected a BS recall effort, or that they didn’t bite on GQP grievance politics, it’s that Larry Elder self-combusted and so Gavin Newsom lucked into winning a recall vote that the “liberal media” believes he would have lost to better candidate.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:07:05am

re: #213 Patricia Kayden

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if my back of the envelope math is correct, Elder got less votes than those who left question 2 blank

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:07:53am

re: #217 Targetpractice

Yeah, I figure that’s going to be the story they go with: “He got lucky.” Not that voters soundly rejected a BS recall effort, or that they didn’t bite on GQP grievance politics, it’s that Larry Elder self-combusted and so Gavin Newsom lucked into winning a recall vote that the “liberal media” believes he would have lost to better candidate.

There’s a chance Newsom could have lost to a better candidate who could conceal the crazy and look appealing to voters. However, the GQP would never be able to field such a candidate; their base is so completely bugfuck insane that they have to run out people like Larry Elder, or they wouldn’t even make it out of the starting gate. As I suspected early on, Newsom was never really in any serious danger, simply because the GQP is unable to be serious and realistic.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:08:08am

re: #217 Targetpractice

Yeah, I figure that’s going to be the story they go with: “He got lucky.” Not that voters soundly rejected a BS recall effort, or that they didn’t bite on GQP grievance politics, it’s that Larry Elder self-combusted and so Gavin Newsom lucked into winning a recall vote that the “liberal media” believes he would have lost to better candidate.

we’d have won if the other team didnt play so good

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:11:22am

All that lava that the Fagradalsfjall volcano has been pumping out for days, which had collected on the northwest and then north side of the crater, was going to lead to the inevitable: marching south to the ocean.

Central part of Geldingadalir valley becomes a wide river of lava:

Finally making it to the edge of the cliff:

Then it goes “wheeee” all the way down to Natthagi valley:

If the volcano keeps at it, someday the lava will make it to the sea.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:17:23am

If you look at those last two pictures, on the southwest side of Geldingadalir you can see a thin dark line that is the edge of the lava flow. That is a berm that was constructed a few months back, in the hopes that the lava could be kept from flowing over that ledge.

If lava does flow over it then there is a large flat field that contains the geothermal plant that supples electricity to the town of Grindavik.

So the berm appears to be holding, which is probably a relief to the civil authorities who ordered it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:24:19am

The media are totally in CYA today because they spent months first playing up Jenner and then Elder up as “threats” to Newsom because nobody credible would run and reporting about the GQP engaging in a banzai charge to unseat a Dem just a year before the next election wouldn’t sell papers.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:25:46am

re: #210 Patricia Kayden

Kasie Hunt is a whole hack. What a ridiculous take on the failed recall.

It’s so Axios.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:27:12am

re: #223 Targetpractice

The media are totally in CYA today because they spent months first playing up Jenner and then Elder up as “threats” to Newsom because nobody credible would run and reporting about the GQP engaging in a banzai charge to unseat a Dem just a year before the next election wouldn’t sell papers.

Let’s just face it: The GQP were never a serious challenge in CA. The polls looked close at one point, and that was scary, and that was good for the media horse race narrative; but really, we all knew (or should have known) that the question wasn’t if Newsom would hold the gubernatorial seat, but by how much. That it wasn’t even close is a resounding condemnation of the horse race narrative that the media keep pushing with every single political screwball that comes down the pike. I am so tired of everything being treated as, ZOMG DEMS IN DISARRAY REPUBLICANS COULD END AMERICA IF THEY DO THIS THING. The GQP is a threat to our existence, yes - but they’re in the minority, and if we keep showing the fuck up, we win. That’s all there is to it.

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jeffreyw  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:27:17am

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:34:09am

Oh, and some more assholes who should be eating crow today:

Nate, go back to sports. You’re a terrible political pundit.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:39:33am

re: #225 Dopamine Fish

Let’s just face it: The GQP were never a serious challenge in CA. The polls looked close at one point, and that was scary, and that was good for the media horse race narrative; but really, we all knew (or should have known) that the question wasn’t if Newsom would hold the gubernatorial seat, but by how much. That it wasn’t even close is a resounding condemnation of the horse race narrative that the media keep pushing with every single political screwball that comes down the pike. I am so tired of everything being treated as, ZOMG DEMS IN DISARRAY REPUBLICANS COULD END AMERICA IF THEY DO THIS THING. The GQP is a threat to our existence, yes - but they’re in the minority, and if we keep showing the fuck up, we win. That’s all there is to it.

The only real question was whether Democratic voters would show up or not. And they did.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:39:58am

re: #223 Targetpractice

The media are totally in CYA today because they spent months first playing up Jenner and then Elder up as “threats” to Newsom because nobody credible would run and reporting about the GQP engaging in a banzai charge to unseat a Dem just a year before the next election wouldn’t sell papers.

Cox, the ‘standardbearer’ republican, actually ran for governor, got pasted with 4%

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:41:44am

re: #228 No Malarkey!

The only real question was whether Democratic voters would show up or not. And they did.

whodathunkit?

you want to win you all gotta vote

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:45:35am

More good news from California; Larry Elder may run for Governor again next year, ensuring that the GQP won’t be able to run even a remotely credible candidate. realclearpolitics.com

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:46:37am

re: #6 jaunte

All of these comments in book form 9 months after the events. How soon after the attacks did we know this happened? How much was held back for a book, instead of announcing to the world that Trump was a psycho lunatic hellbent on destroying democracy to stay in power despite clearly losing. He didn’t have a path to win except to cheat and engage in felony conduct to pressure states not to certify (federal felony interference in election processes).

Fuck Woodward and the journalists who pulled their punches to sell a book months later.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:46:41am

re: #231 No Malarkey!

More good news from California; Larry Elder may run for Governor again next year, ensuring that the GQP won’t be able to run even a remotely credible candidate. realclearpolitics.com

Elder 2022: The election is rigged, so why even bother voting?

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:46:56am

re: #218 Dangerman

if my back of the envelope math is correct, Elder got less votes than those who left question 2 blank

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in fact yes:
votes for elder: 2,328,681
blank on question 2: 4,056,675

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 5:55:47am

re: #230 Dangerman

whodathunkit?

you want to win you all gotta vote

It feels like what I’m about to say is (or should be) axiomatic, but: If you want to know what the will of the people actually is, you should make it as easy as possible for people to vote, so that as many people vote as possible. It’s in this light that I view the GQP voter suppression efforts; they claim to represent the will of the people, but anyone who’s actually interested in that would act in the exact opposite manner to what they’re currently doing. It’s obvious that their only goal is to cling to the scraps of power that they have left, in a vain attempt to convince the country that they are serious people with serious ideas and should be taken seriously.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:10:32am

The sequoias need periodic wildfires to start new tree growth, clear out underbrush that compete for resources with the big trees, but the problem is that wildfires aren’t mild things anymore. Decades of fire suppression led to buildup of underbrush and combustibles, which can cause far more damaging fires.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:18:21am

It’s quite something when Drudge gets the headline right for a change:

Newsom wins in blowout.

That’s the topline result. GOP spent $300 million or more on this sham effort, because it takes an absurdly low number of respondents to petition for a recall (12%). It should take far more than that to generate a new statewide election considering the costs and that the next regularly scheduled election is *next year*.

GOP fiscal responsibility? Bulkshit on a stick. They don’t care how much was spent, because they’ll claim the outcome was predetermined and fraudulent anyways. That was always the plan - corrode confidence in democracy and election outcomes.

The GOP has fully bought into the principle that Democrats winning elections can only come via fraud and malfeasance, when it’s projection like IMAX - the GOP tried to illegally overturn election outcomes such as in 2020. There’s zero evidence of fraud, let alone widespread fraud.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:23:09am

Jefferson County public schools (Louisville, largest city in Kentucky) will mandate testing for employees who aren’t vaccinated.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:33:05am

re: #235 Dopamine Fish

It feels like what I’m about to say is (or should be) axiomatic, but: If you want to know what the will of the people actually is, you should make it as easy as possible for people to vote, so that as many people vote as possible. It’s in this light that I view the GQP voter suppression efforts; they claim to represent the will of the people, but anyone who’s actually interested in that would act in the exact opposite manner to what they’re currently doing. It’s obvious that their only goal is to cling to the scraps of power that they have left, in a vain attempt to convince the country that they are serious people with serious ideas and should be taken seriously.

100%

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:36:41am

re: #98 sagehen

In NYC, Houston Street is pronounced how-stun.

In Detroit, Livernois is pronounced LIVER-noy, Gratiot rhymes with CRASH-it, And Lahser is LASH-er.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:51:50am

re: #219 Dopamine Fish

There’s a chance Newsom could have lost to a better candidate who could conceal the crazy and look appealing to voters. However, the GQP would never be able to field such a candidate; their base is so completely bugfuck insane that they have to run out people like Larry Elder, or they wouldn’t even make it out of the starting gate. As I suspected early on, Newsom was never really in any serious danger, simply because the GQP is unable to be serious and realistic.

The only danger was the laziness of voters, which they seemed to have figured out.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:52:09am

Tfg told Newsmax that Barack Obama “is probably running the government now anyway, according to many.”

He also complained that “our country has gone really downhill in the last eight months like nobody’s ever seen before.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:52:31am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

In Detroit, Livernois is pronounced LIVER-noy, Gratiot rhymes with CRASH-it, And Lahser is LASH-er.

hi

I grew up in Gratiot. Much rural, very empty.

My wife and I went to Loup City, but we didn’t get to go to the Polish Heritage Festival.

First, for those in places with lots of freeways like Texas or California, a quiz question: What is the speed limit on the inside lane of a highway? If your answer is “the posted speed limit,” you win.

On the section of NE-92 which overlaps US-83 (about three miles), I was preparing to make a left turn onto NE-92, when from behind a dipshyte driving a land battleship motor home with Texas plates came over the hill behind me and laid on his horn (but didn’t slow down). He clipped our car as he swerved at the last minute.

After we got our car out of the sand across the intersection with the help of another motorist, we all went back to the sheriff’s department and reported an asshole. The sheriff pointed out there is no place on US-83 to turn off before the next county, so he called ahead and said asshole was arrested.

The sheriff has all our information. If required, my wife and I will be making a long-ass trip to appear in court (the other motorist was local). I hope dipshyte got to cool his heels in jail and had his battleship impounded.

I have to go to Denver now to get our car repaired. The damage appears to be superficial.

After that, we did spend the rest of our time in Loup City and Ashton, and came home with a cooler of Polish meats from the butcher in Ashton.

It would appear that the issue of credit card companies charging a fortune to use a credit card is not limited to the Nebraska Panhandle. While the hotel, the butcher, gas stations, &c over in Loup City would take them, all said that they were being charged $25 per customer to use credit cards.

We wound up writing a lot of cheques, even though we’re from the other side of the state. Gas, restaurants, the hotel and butcher, grocery store, all took cheques from us.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:53:45am

Nope
Not sorry

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:56:37am

re: #238 No Malarkey!

Jefferson County public schools (Louisville, largest city in Kentucky) will mandate testing for employees who aren’t vaccinated.

Two schools districts in one of the hardest hit counties in the entire country won’t mandate masks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 6:59:12am

Congratulations to Californians this morning waking up and still having a sane governor.

I see conservatives are trying out which talking point will stick, with “Democrats are the real racists because they wouldn’t vote for a Black man” and “How could Larry Elder be a white supremacist?”

They tried that crap with Sarah Palin as well: “How can Democrats say they support women when they voted against the woman on the ballot?”

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:01:41am

re: #246 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Congratulations to Californians this morning waking up and still having a sane governor.

I see conservatives are trying out which talking point will stick, with “Democrats are the real racists because they wouldn’t vote for a Black man” and “How could Larry Elder be a white supremacist?”

They tried that crap with Sarah Palin as well: “How can Democrats say they support women when they voted against the woman on the ballot?”

Answer:

Democrats aren’t voting for know nothing lunatics who are bigots, incompetent, and actively support covid19 against the will of all Americans.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:02:03am

re: #236 lawhawk

The sequoias need periodic wildfires to start new tree growth, clear out underbrush that compete for resources with the big trees, but the problem is that wildfires aren’t mild things anymore. Decades of fire suppression led to buildup of underbrush and combustibles, which can cause far more damaging fires.

Should have been raked.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:03:19am

re: #144 ckkatz

Well, time for me to head to bed.

G’nite all!

And to the guy who invented the zero,
Thanks for nothing

And don’t trust atoms,
they make up everything

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:05:12am

Another school district in Kentucky not mandating masks.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:07:27am

Hot takes are really hot… and wrong. It’s what they do.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:09:43am

The Sandhills Tropical Update.

My brother-in-law in Alvin, Texas is getting flooded from Nicholas. Nicholas is downgraded to a tropical depression, and all tropical storm warnings have been dropped.

Tropical Depression Nicholas Advisory Number 13
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD AL142021
400 AM CDT Wed Sep 15 2021

…NICHOLAS MOVING SLOWLY ACROSS EXTREME SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS…
…LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODING IS POSSIBLE ALONG PORTIONS OF
THE CENTRAL GULF COAST THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS…

SUMMARY OF 400 AM CDT…0900 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…30.1N 93.8W
ABOUT 15 MI…25 KM NNE OF PORT ARTHUR TEXAS
ABOUT 35 MI…60 KM W OF LAKE CHARLES LOUISIANA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…30 MPH…45 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…E OR 90 DEGREES AT 3 MPH…6 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…1005 MB…29.68 INCHES

The Weather Prediction Center indicates that even after Nicholas dissipates, the very humid tropical air will remain, causing much rain across SE Texas, Louisiana, southern Mississippi and Alabama, and the Florida Panhandle. Flooding is expected for several days.

Elsewhere, a tropical disturbance north of The Bahamas now has a 70% chance of developing into a tropical cyclone, with a potential threat to eastern North Carolina and Virginia.

Another tropical wave which pushed off Ghana a few days ago has a 90% chance of developing into a tropical cyclone, and may become a threat to the Lesser Antilles in a week or so as it moves mostly west.

A third tropical wave currently over Africa is expected to emerge from Ghana in a couple days, with a low probability of becoming better organised, as the wind patterns will shift and colder waters will be stirred up by the wave in that location now. That system is expected to move off to the northeast.

Five Day Graphical Tropical Outlook

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:13:39am

re: #251 lawhawk

Hot takes are really hot… and wrong. It’s what they do.

Hot Take: “Larry Elder is now on Trump’s short list for VP in 2024”

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:15:01am

re: #246 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Congratulations to Californians this morning waking up and still having a sane governor.

I see conservatives are trying out which talking point will stick, with “Democrats are the real racists because they wouldn’t vote for a Black man” and “How could Larry Elder be a white supremacist?”

They tried that crap with Sarah Palin as well: “How can Democrats say they support women when they voted against the woman on the ballot?”

Dems like competence too

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:16:44am

re: #251 lawhawk

California needs to revamp their referendum law.

I’m not sure how they could do it, though our version in Nebraska keeps most of the nutbar referenda off the ballot. Here you have to get a certain percentage of registered voters from all ninety-three counties to sign a petition to put a referendum on the ballot.

The last two referenda which made it on the ballot (Medicaid expansion and raise the minimum wage) both passed.

You still have the problem of a political party which will put in the enabling legislation to enact the referenda (Medicaid expansion, which finally happened with a lawsuit on behalf of the voters against the Unicameral), but that is a different problem.

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:18:21am

re: #214 Dangerman

Isn’t the difference whether a municipality, county, and/or state is controlled by the GQP or not showing pretty consistently in the CoViD-19 statistics?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:18:41am

re: #251 lawhawk

Kasie Hunt, graduate of George Washington University and Cambridge, complaining about “living like an elite?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:21:05am

re: #199 Targetpractice

What’s not going to help their case much is that Elder’s already conceded. I wonder if that will come to a shock to all the MAGAts he managed to snooker yesterday with his “WE FOUND FRAUD!!!” website yesterday?

On the night of the election, Trump was ahead in certain states that he ultimately lost because all the votes were not yet counted (including some that had not yet arrived). Elder could not pull that off since he was losing so convincingly from the moment the vote count started. Trump claimed “victory” on the night of the election based on the incomplete count and thereby primed his supporters to accept his lie.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:21:50am

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mmmirele  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:23:15am

The Senate is holding a public hearing into the FBI’s fuck up of the investigation into Larry Nasser’s abuse of American gymnasts. Wonkette has the background. Several current and former gymnasts will be testifying, including Simone Biles.

wonkette.com

Here’s the live link (PBS):

WATCH LIVE: Simone Biles, Aly Raisman, other gymnasts testify about Larry Nassar abuse investigation

Yeah, the USA fielded a team of young women athletes who had been sexually assaulted to the Olympics this year. And remember how Simone Biles was treated when she said she didn’t know where she was during one of her events. I still want to kick the shit out of those white guys who seemed to think Biles and the rest of those young women were there just for THEIR benefit and entertainment.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:26:10am

A twofer
Promote good policy
Alienate fox viewers* against fox

*Q: what is less offensive? Mouth breather or knuckle dragger?

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:27:11am

re: #260 mmmirele

The FBI Indianapolis office should be disbanded and all the officers involved should be disciplined, fired, and charged with various crimes themselves for their own malfeasance.

They completely botched the investigations into Nasser, and helped cover up the abuse.

Thing about that episode is that it’s almost indistinguishable from how the FBI investigated Kavanaugh and his abuse, or even the claims that there was no concerted effort to overthrow the govt on 1/6, and that the events at the Capitol were organic and occurred only day of (when there were warning signs all over the place).

Wray should be gone.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:27:47am

This is cherry-picking at its finest.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:28:38am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

On the night of the election, Trump was ahead in certain states that he ultimately lost because all the votes were not yet counted (including some that had not yet arrived). Elder could not pull that off since he was losing so convincingly from the moment the vote count started. Trump claimed “victory” on the night of the election based on the incomplete count and thereby primed his supporters to accept his lie.

What I was saying above
You said better

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:28:42am

Todays MTG moment. Behind spoilers for the preservation of public decency.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:30:35am

re: #225 Dopamine Fish

Let’s just face it: The GQP were never a serious challenge in CA. The polls looked close at one point, and that was scary, and that was good for the media horse race narrative; but really, we all knew (or should have known) that the question wasn’t if Newsom would hold the gubernatorial seat, but by how much. That it wasn’t even close is a resounding condemnation of the horse race narrative that the media keep pushing with every single political screwball that comes down the pike. I am so tired of everything being treated as, ZOMG DEMS IN DISARRAY REPUBLICANS COULD END AMERICA IF THEY DO THIS THING. The GQP is a threat to our existence, yes - but they’re in the minority, and if we keep showing the fuck up, we win. That’s all there is to it.

Not quite. There really was a question of whether Newsom voters would turn out in numbers — that’s why I spent the last week texting. It has happened before that issues that ” should have” won have failed because of poor turnout — that’s how brexit happened, after all.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:31:03am
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:34:58am

re: #226 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Ready for takeoff
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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:36:35am

re: #262 lawhawk

IIRC, the FBI director has always been a Republican. If so, that’s definitely something that needs to change.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:37:17am

re: #229 Dangerman

I would have voted for the bear appearing in his commercials, but he was from out of state…

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:37:28am

re: #251 lawhawk

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Hot takes are really hot… and wrong. It’s what they do.

One thing I notice all these “GQP came out ahead!” takes are really trying hard to ignore is that Newsom didn’t just win by almost 2/3 the vote, he’s pretty much in the ballpark for his blowout win in ‘18. And he’s facing reelection next year, while the GQP still has to go through the process of deciding on who they want to see ritualistically slaughtered by him next November.

So far, the only thing that the whole affair seems to have done is burn $300m of taxpayer money and make a whole lot of political consultants just that much richer.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:38:50am

re: #265 Teukka

Todays MTG moment. Behind spoilers for the preservation of public decency.

[Embedded content]

Quoting the Columbia Bugle, an anonymous Twitter account likely from San Diego. Well, I’m convinced.

Investigating Social Media Accounts (Data Journalism)

Columbia Journal’s claim to fame? They say they were retweeted twice by Donald Trump.

The earliest follows of Max Delarge, an account claiming to be the editor of The Columbia Bugle, are San Diego-specific news sources and San Diego-specific sports accounts. Since many of Columbia Bugle’s tweets include videos from San Diego Trump rallies and events at the University of California, San Diego, we can be fairly confident that the person behind the account lives near San Diego.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:39:04am

Sad story. A pro-vaccine activist couldn’t convince members of her own family to get vaccinated, and six of them have died of Covid in three weeks. news.yahoo.com

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:43:32am

re: #263 The Pie Overlord!

This is cherry-picking at its finest.

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GQP: “DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR VACCINE HESITANCY!!!”

Also GQP: “AVOID THE VACCINE AT ALL COSTS BECAUSE IT CAN’T BE TRUSTED!!!!”

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:43:54am

re: #270 So Cal Greek Hippie

I would have voted for the bear appearing in his commercials, but he was from out of state…

So a carpetbear?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:44:26am

re: #251 lawhawk

The Cilizza article was actually not bad — he basically made the same points that you made, including that the recall was a waste of money and that the GOP had no viable candidates.

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sagehen  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:44:51am

re: #263 The Pie Overlord!

This is cherry-picking at its finest.

The general consensus in my circles was “when Tony Fauci says it’s safe, I’ll believe him. I won’t believe anybody Trump appointed.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:46:31am
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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:46:44am

re: #274 Targetpractice

GQP: “DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR VACCINE HESITANCY!!!”

Also GQP: “AVOID THE VACCINE AT ALL COSTS BECAUSE IT CAN’T BE TRUSTED!!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:47:42am

re: #277 sagehen

The general consensus in my circles was “when Tony Fauci says it’s safe, I’ll believe him. I won’t believe anybody Trump appointed.”

Can we move in with you? /s

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sagehen  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:49:17am

re: #265 Teukka

Afghans are also having a measles outbreak. Are Dems going to mandate the MMR to travel, work, buy and sell?

There’s an MMR mandate to enter public school. Most Americans got that shot when they were 4 years old.

And reports of rape on military bases by Afghans. Dems don’t care about women and children’s rights or safety.

Bullshit. The Afghans on military bases don’t get to wander freely on those bases. They’re under strict supervision.

And court marshal Milley.

If you can’t spell Court Martial, you’re not a great judge of who deserves it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:51:54am

re: #281 sagehen

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:52:36am

re: #141 Belafon

The Larry Elder paradox is that if he was about 10% less likely to say absolutely insane shit he’d probably be a real problem for Newsom but if he didn’t say insane shit he wouldn’t stand out in the right wing media landscape enough to get him to this point

The GOP primary paradox as well: to win the nomination you have to be so extreme that you stand little chance in the general unless you live in a Deep Red region.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:52:41am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:53:05am

It’s a good day when you wake up and see Larry Elder getting his ass kicked by 2.6 million votes so far.

It’s an even better day when you get to deliver an ass whippin to that Presstitute Chris Cillizza!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:53:19am

re: #281 sagehen

If you can’t spell Court Martial, you’re not a great judge of who deserves it.

Maybe they want our village marshal to be the judge.

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KGxvi  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:53:38am

re: #175 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

I’m pretty sure there were also failed attempts on Jerry Brown.

Every Governor since Reagan (at least) has had someone try to recall them. Only two have made it to the ballot. This one probably shouldn’t have but a judge extended the 160 day signature collection period by 120 days because of the pandemic

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:54:37am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:55:53am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:56:59am

re: #266 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Not quite. There really was a question of whether Newsom voters would turn out in numbers — that’s why I spent the last week texting. It has happened before that issues that ” should have” won have failed because of poor turnout — that’s how brexit happened, after all.

That’s how Rostenkowski lost his secure House seat in 1994 to an unknown Republican in the Gingrich “revolution”: an off year election and a very motivated GOP base. And let’s never forget the story that Dewey lost to Truman because many of his supporters were so confident of his victory that they never voted.

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sagehen  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:57:28am

re: #280 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Can we move in with you? /s

hmmm… I seem to recall you saying you and your wife are good cooks? Sure, glad to have you.

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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:58:50am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 15, 2021 • 7:59:01am

re: #289 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:00:16am

re: #284 lawhawk

We are seeing media (CNN) representation, of an unpublished book, by a political reporter.

We’re a long way from Gospel.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:00:55am

The GOP here decided to punt to public hearings on redistricting maps: Do we accept the gerrymandered map to dilute NE-2, or do we accept the really gerrymandered map to also foul up NE-1?

We can call in this morning so our voices won’t be heard.

Unfortunately, both maps will take people out of my district (NE-3) to do this, but there is no harm to the GOP since we are further right than Wyoming.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:01:41am

re: #291 sagehen

hmmm… I seem to recall you saying you and your wife are good cooks? Sure, glad to have you.

My wife is a good cook. I’m a good dishwasher.

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:03:08am

A question that someone asked in a chat, and which has popped up in my mind more than once (and no, it really isn’t pleasant to think about):
“Honestly I wonder how many people that just want CoViD-19 to rip through the population are supporting that for eugenics-based reasons.”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:03:16am

re: #291 sagehen

hmmm… I seem to recall you saying you and your wife are good cooks? Sure, glad to have you.

Hey!! I’ve still got the couch.

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:04:07am

re: #297 Teukka

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:04:53am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:05:43am

re: #292 gocart mozart

…Our cat once left a dead squirrel on our front doorstep. Wait, that’s not totally correct, it was only half a squirrel.

Much better than our experience: Our dog brought the half squirrel into the house!

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sagehen  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:07:04am

re: #298 Decatur Deb

Hey!! I’ve still got the couch.

I’ll get a 2nd couch.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:08:22am

Good Morning. I did not expect to have this feeling of relief again. One was Joe winning, then my vaccine and now Larry Elder stays the hell away from governing. WHEW #3 this year.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:09:04am

re: #299 Teukka

The folks who support it for the reasons of eugenics think they are the ones who will survive.

Conservatism can be compared to monoculture agriculture as far as disease goes. It’s great when things are normal, but a novel disease comes along and the crop (or conservatives) are all cut down.

I’m not a statistician, but I’ll bet that you could make a strong correlation now between death or serious disablement from Covid-19 and conservatives. Anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-social distancing all work in favour of the virus.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:09:17am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:09:42am

re: #301 Hecuba’s daughter

Much better than our experience: Our dog brought the half squirrel into the house!

We came home to a dead mouse in a mousetrap.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:10:58am

re: #306 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We came home to a dead mouse in a mousetrap.

You can blame whoever left a mousetrap around for that.

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:12:01am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The folks who support it for the reasons of eugenics think they are the ones who will survive.

Conservatism can be compared to monoculture agriculture as far as disease goes. It’s great when things are normal, but a novel disease comes along and the crop (or conservatives) are all cut down.

I’m not a statistician, but I’ll bet that you could make a strong correlation now between death or serious disablement from Covid-19 and conservatives. Anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-social distancing all work in favour of the virus.

That last paragraph… [tinfoil]
What if they believe that if they get the ‘rona, they’ll make it, and support anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-social distancing, anti-hand hygiene, etc. to be able to spread it so it can take out whoever they regard as Untermensch? 🤔
[/tinfoil]

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:12:42am

re: #308 Teukka

That last paragraph… [tinfoil]
What if they believe that if they get the ‘rona, they’ll make it, and support anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-social distancing, anti-hand hygiene, etc. to be able to spread it so it can take out whoever they regard as Untermensch? 🤔
[/tinfoil]

Some of them have said exactly that.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:12:51am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Kasie Hunt, graduate of George Washington University and Cambridge, complaining about “living like an elite?”

And by “living like the elite” she means he went to a fundraisers’ dinner.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:13:38am

re: #301 Hecuba’s daughter

Much better than our experience: Our dog brought the half squirrel into the house!

We had cats once who would bring us bird heads as gifts. I came home one day to find my toddler youngest daughter on the back porch steps with one head on each pointer finger doing puppets with the heads. 😳

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:14:03am

re: #302 sagehen

I’ll get a 2nd couch.

Two-couch apartment on UWS? That’s like…gentry.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:15:09am

re: #311 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

We had cats once who would bring us bird heads as gifts. I came home one day to find my toddler youngest daughter on the back porch steps with one head on each pointer finger doing puppets with the heads. 😳

Eww.

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:18:03am

Stonekettle’s in fine form this morning.

I agree with him, Democracy is not a suicide pact. And anybody trying to tell you that is no friend of Democracy.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:18:12am

re: #271 Targetpractice

One thing I notice all these “GQP came out ahead!” takes are really trying hard to ignore is that Newsom didn’t just win by almost 2/3 the vote, he’s pretty much in the ballpark for his blowout win in ‘18. And he’s facing reelection next year, while the GQP still has to go through the process of deciding on who they want to see ritualistically slaughtered by him next November.

So far, the only thing that the whole affair seems to have done is burn $300m of taxpayer money and make a whole lot of political consultants just that much richer.

The counters are saying he may turn out to have done better than his 2018 win.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:21:39am
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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:24:56am

By the way, regarding phone calls… The concept that a senior leader would just randomly call up his counterpart at random hours of the day was a Trump only thing. (And maybe Hollywood.) Calls like that ascribed to Milley involve multiple people out of several different departments.

This take seems much more in line with how things are typically done:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:26:04am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:26:06am

re: #317 ckkatz

By the way, regarding phone calls… The concept that a senior leader would just randomly call up his counterpart at random hours of the day was a Trump only thing. (And maybe Hollywood.) Calls like that ascribed to Milley involve multiple people out of several different departments.

This take seems much more in line with how things are typically done:

That makes me feel a whole lot better about the whole thing.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:27:46am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:27:58am

re: #317 ckkatz

Holy Mackinac, a FOX reporter with the truth? Truly the End of Days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:28:55am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mike Lindell has something to do with this, doesn’t he?

/

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:29:44am

re: #304 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The folks who support it for the reasons of eugenics think they are the ones who will survive.

Conservatism can be compared to monoculture agriculture as far as disease goes. It’s great when things are normal, but a novel disease comes along and the crop (or conservatives) are all cut down.

I’m not a statistician, but I’ll bet that you could make a strong correlation now between death or serious disablement from Covid-19 and conservatives. Anti-mask, anti-vaccine, anti-social distancing all work in favour of the virus.

Minorities have disproportionately been victims and that may be what the GOP has been counting on.

Another anecdote on the coronavirus front: friend told me yesterday that her cousin (himself a physician) while at a doctor’s appointment was talking to a tech there and learned that several of her family members in Michigan died from the disease, but she remained defiantly unvaccinated. Shortly after this conversation, she came down with Covid; the office scheduled a monoclonal antibody treatment for her, which she ignored, and she soon passed away. Even knowing personally others who die from the disease is not sufficient to persuade the reluctant to take a vaccine.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:29:52am

re: #314 ckkatz

And as noted above, Milley was acting within the chain of command as he answers to Sec Def Esper, who indicated the need to tell China we weren’t going to bomb them if Trump went and lost his fucking mind after losing the election (he lost, and proceeded to sabotage government anyways).

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:30:08am

re: #284 lawhawk

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dont automatically believe tell-all books.
they don’t tell it all

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:30:33am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[Embedded content]

“My fellow Americans, it is double plus ungood that education is making America look ungood.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:31:25am

I’m good with calling it a genocide.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:32:45am

re: #324 lawhawk

And as noted above, Milley was acting within the chain of command as he answers to Sec Def Esper, who indicated the need to tell China we weren’t going to bomb them if Trump went and lost his fucking mind after losing the election (he lost, and proceeded to sabotage government anyways).

Plus going to the line of succession, he certainly couldn’t go to Trump or Pence, so he went to the next in line: Nancy Pelosi.

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:34:13am

The story of yesterday, of how Pence ‘bravely’ stood up to Trump (and most likely fed by the Pence camp to the reporter) had the old Monty Python and the Holy Grail line running through my mind:

Brave Sir Robin Pence ran away.
Bravely ran away.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:34:36am

re: #290 Hecuba’s daughter

And let’s never forget the story that Dewey lost to Truman because many of his supporters were so confident of his victory that they never voted.

And Brexit…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:34:37am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:35:02am

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m good with calling it a genocide.

Go with “mass murder” if you like. Genocide requires something like a “gens” to provide a target group.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:35:14am

re: #311 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

We had cats once who would bring us bird heads as gifts. I came home one day to find my toddler youngest daughter on the back porch steps with one head on each pointer finger doing puppets with the heads. 😳

Ours would drag ones in that were not quite dead…

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:35:26am

re: #310 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

And by “living like the elite” she means he went to *a* fundraisers’ dinner.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:36:25am

re: #311 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

We had cats once who would bring us bird heads as gifts. I came home one day to find my toddler youngest daughter on the back porch steps with one head on each pointer finger doing puppets with the heads. 😳

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:37:15am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ours would drag ones in that were not quite dead…

Our outdoor cat eats them. Sometimes quite graphically, with audible crunching sounds.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:37:23am

re: #297 Teukka

A question that someone asked in a chat, and which has popped up in my mind more than once (and no, it really isn’t pleasant to think about):
“Honestly I wonder how many people that just want CoViD-19 to rip through the population are supporting that for eugenics-based reasons.”

Last spring, there was a wave on Twitter about how “nature is healing, humans are the virus!” There have always been some ugly eugenicist talk underlying the platform. During the “straw ban” debate, several people suggested that “Mother Nature doesn’t care about the disabled!” and those people got likes.

I expected eugenics to have another wave with climate change; hard leftists are every bit as Darwinist as anyone on the right.

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:38:46am

re: #321 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Holy Mackinac, a FOX reporter with the truth? Truly the End of Days.

Sadly, honest reporting from FNC, while it still occasionally exists, is facing an extinction level event.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:38:56am

re: #337 Sherlock Hound

I expected eugenics to have another wave with climate change; hard leftists are every bit as Darwinist as anyone on the right.

I see a lot of people who reject Evolution but are fine with Social Darwinism and (white) Racial Supremacy theories.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:43:04am

re: #337 Sherlock Hound

“nature is healing, humans are the virus!”

This isn’t eugenics. Eugenics would be only the strong will survive. This is “nature getting rid of something dangerous.” The virus is nature’s vaccine.

We’re not trying to create a stronger Covid virus by vaccinating people, we’re trying to get rid of it. Nature is just trying to do the same thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:44:30am

Libertarians continuing to show they are Republicans who like to smoke weed.

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plansbandc  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:45:49am

re: #311 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Once, when I was a kid, our cat left a murder scene on the patio.

Feathers everywhere, and in the middle placed right next to each other, the beak, the feet, and the heart.

Really artistic.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:46:19am

re: #335 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

We just bought that squirrel finger puppet for my grandkids last month!

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:48:06am

The rats are turning on each other:

“A month later, on Dec. 12, Grisham received a text from a lobbyist in Arizona, Gretchen Jacobs,” Playbook added. “Jacobs wrote that she had spoken with Karen Fann, a top Republican in the state Senate, and ‘asked her what would cause her to withhold the electors’ needed to certify the results. According to the text, Fann told Jacobs ‘if we could prove fraud — that would be a game-changer.’”

Jacobs asked Grisham to help scrape up $104,000 needed to hire a political consultant to find evidence of fraud, which the lobbyist claimed they were certain to find, and the White House press secretary forwarded that text message the Trump campaign aide.

“Any ideas?” Grisham asked.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:49:11am
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Jay C  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:51:55am

re: #344 Targetpractice

The rats are turning on each other:

Isn’t Karen Fann the AZ GOPer behind the Cyber Ninja “fraudit” scam? IIRC, she is the State Senate President or something.

Sounds she went ahead with the BS anyway, Trump-Admin assistance notwithstanding.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:52:10am

re: #332 Decatur Deb

Go with “mass murder” if you like. Genocide requires something like a “gens” to provide a target group.

Democide - government purposefully killing a population by and through their actions, not directly relating to race, religion, or ethnicity.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:54:04am

re: #346 Jay C

Isn’t Karen Fann the AZ GOPer behind the Cyber Ninja “fraudit” scam? IIRC, she is the State Senate President or something.

Sounds she went ahead with the BS anyway, Trump-Admin assistance notwithstanding.

Yes, Karen Fann is the President of the AZ State Senate, and the primary party responsible for the fraudit.

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sagehen  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:54:09am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

Two-couch apartment on UWS? That’s like…gentry.

But not landed gentry, sadly. I wouldn’t have room for a horse, even if I could get him into the elevator.

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:54:19am

What say the Philadelphia experts on the probable gustatory experience?

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:54:57am

re: #347 lawhawk

Democide - government purposefully killing a population by and through their actions, not directly relating to race, religion, or ethnicity.

I may have to call it inepticide — in which someone tries to kill off an “enemy” population but ends up hitting the “good guys.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:55:43am

re: #351 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

I may have to call it inepticide — in which someone tries to kill off an “enemy” population but ends up hitting the “good guys.”

So, basically a friendly fire incident then?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:56:14am

re: #347 lawhawk

Democide - government purposefully killing a population by and through their actions, not directly relating to race, religion, or ethnicity.

You left out national group, also included in the UN definition.

In the beginning, the GOP was willing to let the virus rip because it was primarily attacking Democratic areas.

Now it’s attacking Republican areas. Auto-genocide is still genocide.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:57:22am

re: #353 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You left out national group, also included in the UN definition.

In the beginning, the GOP was willing to let the virus rip because it was primarily attacking Democratic areas.

Now it’s attacking Republican areas. Auto-genocide is still genocide.

Just think of it as a gender-reveal party at the national level.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:58:01am

Quoting The Babylon Bee

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:58:39am

re: #341 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians continuing to show they are Republicans who like to smoke weed.

[Embedded content]

SLP’s Logo: Live Free and Kill Others.

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 8:59:16am

re: #352 Eclectic Cyborg

So, basically a friendly fire incident then?

Reminds me of the old infantry sayings:

“Friendly fire isn’t”
and
“Attracting attention tends to annoy everybody else in the foxhole”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:00:22am

re: #356 Belafon

SLP’s Logo: Live Free and Kill Others.

I Got Mine so Fuck the Rest of You!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:00:45am

re: #357 ckkatz

Reminds me of the old infantry sayings:

“Friendly fire isn’t”
and
“Attracting attention tends to annoy everybody else in the foxhole”

Fav: “Tracer works both ways.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:00:50am

re: #356 Belafon

SLP’s Logo: Live Free and Kill Others.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:01:17am

re: #357 ckkatz

Reminds me of the old infantry sayings:

“Friendly fire isn’t”
and
“Attracting attention tends to annoy everybody else in the foxhole”

Reminds me of a line I once heard in regards to the former:

“In fact, all fire is inherently unfriendly. Just like once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend.”

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darthstar  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:01:42am

re: #344 Targetpractice

The rats are turning on each other:

Secretly building alibis for when you know you will need to distance yourself and claim you were one of the sane and non-corrupt ones…well done, Grish.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:02:34am

I’m going to stumble off to bed, you lucky devils. Catch y’all later.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:03:43am

re: #353 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You left out national group, also included in the UN definition.

In the beginning, the GOP was willing to let the virus rip because it was primarily attacking Democratic areas.

Now it’s attacking Republican areas. Auto-genocide is still genocide.

self-rapture

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:03:49am

re: #359 Decatur Deb

Fav: “Tracer works both ways.”

This is very true.

And I understand that the ballistics of tracer ammunition differs from that of ball ammunition.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:04:33am

re: #359 Decatur Deb

Fav: “Tracer works both ways.”

Follow the blinking light until you find the blinking moron.

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:09:14am

re: #361 Targetpractice

Reminds me of a line I once heard in regards to the former:

“In fact, all fire is inherently unfriendly. Just like once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend.”

Very true. And as the grenade range instructor said, it can totally ruin your day.

Iirc, Band of Brothers, Episode 8, goes into this.

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:10:50am

re: #200 steve_davis

well, keep in mind he did spend the afternoon being pulled out of some poor bastard’s attic, where he’d apparently eaten his way through a bag of crab legs.

If someone already posted this, sorry!

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:12:24am

re: #309 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Some of them have said exactly that.

“If people would just eat healthy and get good BMI”—Predominant thread in anti-COVID vax groups.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:13:19am

Re: MTG’s “court marshall” gaffe:

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:16:03am

re: #369 Sherlock Hound

“If people would just eat healthy and get good BMI”—Predominant thread in anti-COVID vax groups.

published in the JAMA Cardiology in May questioned the impact of COVID-19 and different approaches to screening for Big Ten athletes. Out of 1,597 athletes who received comprehensive heart testing, 2.3-percent were diagnosed with myocarditis after a COVID-19 infection. Of the 37 athletes who were diagnosed with heart damage, 28 reported having no symptoms like chest pain or heart palpations. The study concluded that symptom-based heart screenings may not be enough to catch heart damage caused by COVID-19.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:16:16am

re: #367 ckkatz

Very true. And as the grenade range instructor said, it can totally ruin your day.

Iirc, Band of Brothers, Episode 8, goes into this.

While we were waiting for the chance to throw our one and only live grenade in Basic, the platoon warmed up by throwing de-milled shells through a wooden frame the size of a Macy’s window. A guy ahead of me threw his, hit the frame, and it bounced back directly between his feet. Good omen.

I managed to convince the instructor I was left handed, because my right wrist was in a cast.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:18:31am

re: #372 Decatur Deb

While we were waiting for the chance to throw our one and only live grenade in Basic, the platoon warmed up by throwing de-milled shells through a wooden frame the size of a Macy’s window. A guy ahead of me threw his, hit the frame, and it bounced back directly between his feet. Good omen.

There’s a GIF I use frequently at work of a poor benighted soldier who tries to toss a grenade (not a live frag, maybe a flashbang or something similar), and winds up bouncing it off a tree and back into his own foxhole. He manages to scramble out of the foxhole and avoid damage, at least.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:22:20am

re: #373 Dopamine Fish

There’s a GIF I use frequently at work of a poor benighted soldier who tries to toss a grenade (not a live frag, maybe a flashbang or something similar), and winds up bouncing it off a tree and back into his own foxhole. He manages to scramble out of the foxhole and avoid damage, at least.

I’ve seen more than one instance where an instructor was commended for throwing a clumsy trainee over the concrete wall and following him over. Grenade sumps are nice in theory.

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:23:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:24:30am

re: #360 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

remember when one year ago THERE WAS NO FUCKING DELTA VARIANT???

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:29:01am
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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:30:29am

re: #377 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Dim Tool… *sighs*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:31:51am

re: #377 Punish Domestic Terrorists

There is no iteration of AOC that they would not go out of their way to criticize every aspect of…

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:32:02am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:32:18am

CNN poll: 78% of Republicans think Biden didn’t win. Fuck. Them.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:32:34am

re: #373 Dopamine Fish

There’s a GIF I use frequently at work of a poor benighted soldier who tries to toss a grenade (not a live frag, maybe a flashbang or something similar), and winds up bouncing it off a tree and back into his own foxhole. He manages to scramble out of the foxhole and avoid damage, at least.

In Arma 3 play grenade screw-ups are common enough that some of the players refuse to carry explosive ones and just carry smoke grenades. There is a method for a more controlled toss, but it’s a different key combo and usually takes longer than using a certain key for a quick toss.*

The group’s training mission does include an area for training with grenades. It’s recommended to use training or smoke grenades there. But there are also some protective sandbags and “sumps” below some windows in order to prevent accidents. Plus there is a box full of first aid gear there as well.

* - The default command in the game is just pressing “g”. Our group recommends (and almost requires) that it be changed to “2xg” (pressing “g” twice rapidly). And since most of the keys are used in the game it is pretty easy to mishit a key and potentially frag your fireteam.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:34:00am

re: #360 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not sure the origin of the graph but it occurs to me that in Sep 2020 most the country was in lock down, no people in stadiums, etc, which was another set of policies I’m sure the Libertarians didn’t support at the time either.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:34:08am

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:35:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:35:51am

re: #381 GlutenFreeJesus

CNN poll: 78% of Republicans think Biden didn’t win. Fuck. Them.

I think if you break it down, it’s is that 78% of Republicans say that Biden didn’t win, while only about half of those folks really believe it, but they know they have a narrative to uphold.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:37:25am

Listening to Christopher Wray — I am reminded that the FBI failed the nation from its inception in 1935 with Jay Edgar Hoover as its director. Racism permeated the organization, including its efforts to damage Martin Luther King Jr. Let’s not forget its role in supporting Trump in 2016 — especially the NY office, which was known as Trumpland — and James Comey’s violating policy to send his October 28th letter to Congress to torpedo her candidacy. Like police departments throughout the nation, the FBI organization is flawed perhaps beyond redemption — it needs to be restructured and many of its employees need to be replaced.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:37:50am

re: #382 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

* - The default command in the game is just pressing “g”. Our group recommends (and almost requires) that it be changed to “2xg” (pressing “g” twice rapidly). And since most of the keys are used in the game it is pretty easy to mishit a key and potentially frag your fireteam.

I play a lot of Overwatch, but not on the PC. However, for the PC players, the default button for your ultimate ability is Q. Unfortunately, this happens to be right next to W, which means that many professional players have been caught out with their finger on the wrong key and wasted their ultimate when they intended to walk forward.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:38:07am

re: #360 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yet more proof that lockdowns work.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:38:08am

re: #350 ckkatz

What say the Philadelphia experts on the probable gustatory experience?

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Dinic’s Roast Pork with the garlicky broccoli rabe and sharp provolone…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:38:41am

re: #386 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think if you break it down, it’s is that 78% of Republicans say that Biden didn’t win, while only about half of those folks really believe it, but they know they have a narrative to uphold.

Optimistically, I think the set of people willing to call themselves Republicans is shrinking towards the wingnuts.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:41:02am

re: #376 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

remember when that forest fire was just a single lighted match

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ckkatz  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:41:03am

re: #374 Decatur Deb

I’ve seen more than one instance where an instructor was commended for throwing a clumsy trainee over the concrete wall and following him over. Grenade sumps are nice in theory.

Translating Decatur Deb into everyday conversation…

When it’s his or her turn to throw a grenade, the trainee individually goes into a ‘foxhole’ usually large width concrete drainage pipe. In the floor of the foxhole is a deeper but less wide hole called a grenade sump. With the trainee is an instructor. (I suspect that the instructor is reconsidering his life choices at that point.)

The instructor hands the trainee grenade. The trainee pulls the pin and is supposed to throw it at a target. Then both trainee and instructor duck. And, theoretically, the grenade explodes.

The most important part of the entire exercise is that the grenade exits the foxhole. Nobody really cares whether the grenade gets anywhere near the target.

If the grenade does not exit the foxhole, the trainee is (or used to be) instructed to attach themselves to the side of the foxhole and let the instructor handle the situation. The choice boils down to toss the grenade out of the foxhole or toss themselves out.

Most often, as soon as the instructor tosses the trainee, rather than the grenade, out of the foxhole, the instructor also exits. The grenade then explodes. The hope is that the grenade blast is sent skyward by the sump and foxhole and not sideways into the very unhappy instructor and trainee.

At that point, the trainee is probably also reviewing his life choices.

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:43:53am

re: #380 Teukka

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wait! i bet the moon’s made of cheese

Nope, no effort at all.

dont legitimize crackpot thinking as if it was real thinking

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:46:46am

re: #394 Dangerman

wait! i bet the moon’s made of cheese

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Nope, no effort at all.

dont legitimize crackpot thinking as if it was real thinking

Crackpot thinking is brainfarting at best, if you ask me…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:48:05am

re: #394 Dangerman

wait! i bet the moon’s made of cheese

Nope, no effort at all.

dont legitimize crackpot thinking as if it was real thinking

I just humor them and engage them on whether it is American Cheese as we discovered it or start going off on String Cheese Theory to explain the neutrino spin differentials…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:48:19am

re: #388 Dopamine Fish

I play a lot of Overwatch, but not on the PC. However, for the PC players, the default button for your ultimate ability is Q. Unfortunately, this happens to be right next to W, which means that many professional players have been caught out with their finger on the wrong key and wasted their ultimate when they intended to walk forward.

Similar to how there is a power with a long cooldown period in Valheim linked to “F”. I fat fingered it so many times while doing WSAD stuff to move that I shifted it over to “G”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:53:06am

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darthstar  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:55:07am

re: #381 GlutenFreeJesus

CNN poll: 78% of Republicans think Biden didn’t win. Fuck. Them.

Stop asking them. Just stop altogether. President Biden is the president. When some Republican complains that they aren’t seeing polls in a few weeks, explain to them on live TV that they’ve lied to their base for so long that they’re divorced from reality, so reaffirming that with regular polls that make them feel like they could be right is just harming them.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:55:40am

re: #398 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:55:41am

re: #59 jaunte

When I first moved to Houston with my family from Venezuela I was puzzled to be corrected on the pronunciation of San Felipe Street.
“It’s San Fillipee, dummy!”

If you had moved to GA:

Houston ave is pronounced HOUSEtin.

Albany is pronounced ALL-Bennie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:58:11am

re: #400 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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Dangerman  Sep 15, 2021 • 9:58:37am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210912 edition ———————->
“Olio”


Here’s an index of all the postings in #thegreatpoolpondconversion

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2021 • 10:04:15am

re: #403 Dangerman

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 210912 edition ———————->
“Olio”


Here’s an index of all the postings in #thegreatpoolpondconversion

You’ve been CLd. Congratulations.

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plansbandc  Sep 15, 2021 • 10:47:20am

re: #377 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That Tim is a bright one.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 15, 2021 • 10:54:29am

re: #401 BeenHereAwhile

If you had moved to GA:

Houston ave is pronounced HOUSEtin.

Albany is pronounced ALL-Bennie.

I used to often travel HOUSE-tin Mill Rd.

My contribution: Berlin, NH is BERlin.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 15, 2021 • 11:08:43am

re: #326 Belafon

My fellow Americans, it is double plus unGod…

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 15, 2021 • 11:12:59am

re: #406 Barefoot Grin

I used to often travel HOUSE-tin Mill Rd.

My contribution: Berlin, NH is BERlin.

I forgot this one:

Vienna GA is pronounced VY-Anna


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