Antoine Boyer & Yeore Kim: “The Waltz Only You Can Dance”

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The waltz only you can dance - Written and arranged by Antoine Boyer & Yeore Kim

Tangram album is out now ! ➔ abyktngrm.lnk.to

Guitar : Antoine Boyer
Harmonica : Yeore Kim
Double basse : William Brunard
Drums : Jonathan Gomis
Clarinet : Matthieu Donarier
Trombone : Jean-Louis Pommier
Trumpet : Geoffroy Tamisier

Recorded by Julien Taillefer for “C’est par ici qu’ça se passe !”
Mixed by Julien Taillefer, Benoit Lebrun and Antoine Boyer
Executive Production : Benoit Lebrun for “C’est par ici qu’ça se passe !”
Mastering : Benjamin Joubert
Production : Antoine Boyer and Viavox Production
Camera : André Baille Barelle
Video Editing : Antoine Boyer
Recorded in La Ferrière (Mésanger 44), France, in September 2020

Antoine plays a guitar by Collings Guitars with Mama Pickups humbucker.

A big thank you to Manon Lebrun, Sarah Brunetière, Steeve Gernez, Marc Chevalier, Jérôme Bimier, Pierre Lebrun, Romain Viallon, Sam et Laurence du studio de la Ferrière, the Viavox Production team, Raphaël Maillet, Youngtae Wi, Mire Kim, Jongman Kim, Yunhee Lee, Sébastien Boyer, Jean-Claude et Marielle Boyer, and all the contributors who supported Tangram project !

Support Antoine on Patreon → patreon.com
Instagram → instagram.com
Facebook → facebook.com
Website → antoineboyermusic.com

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238 comments
1
retired cynic  Sep 19, 2021 • 8:41:29pm

Pretty nice!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2021 • 8:51:44pm

For those following the Evergrande issue, and the potential fallout, looks like Bitcoin has taken a bit of a hit from Chinese selling it because of margin call concerns:

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mmmirele  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:03:58pm

re: #2 Dr Lizardo

For those following the Evergrande issue, and the potential fallout, looks like Bitcoin has taken a bit of a hit from Chinese selling it because of margin call concerns:

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Some wag on Twitter called it “Evergrenade news.” I don’t know if it was a fortuitous typo or a clever thought, but yeah, I see things going boom.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:07:45pm

Sonofabitch: Be warned that Amazon Kindle Fire HD a series tablets will NOT MUTHAFUCKING PAIR with headphone with mikes on ‘em!!!!!

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mmmirele  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:08:26pm

I knew it was high, but I didn’t realize it was this high.

That’s right, folks, Japan has nearly a third of its population at retirement age or above.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:16:57pm

from downstairs
re: #331 Hecuba’s daughter

Civility is dead. The antipathy between both sides is too great to overcome as long Trump and his posse in Congress continue to incite anger and hatred against the election results and the GOP states continue to conduct fraudits and pass legislation to suppress voters. Maybe once Trump passes from the scene — and if the GOP doesn’t regain control of either House in 2022 — civility can eventually be restored but it will take several cycles.

We’ll only get civility back when Republicans start acting civilized instead of like power-mad barbarians.

It’s going to be a long wait.

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:17:09pm

re: #5 mmmirele

I knew it was high, but I didn’t realize it was this high.

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That’s right, folks, Japan has nearly a third of its population at retirement age or above.

It looks like Japan in the next 20 years is going to have a major demographic change between the current size of the elderly population, the low fertility rate and the disinterest in immigration.

China may face a similar trend, although perhaps not to the same degree.

I wonder how it will affect the world.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:17:44pm

re: #3 mmmirele

Some wag on Twitter called it “Evergrenade news.” I don’t know if it was a fortuitous typo or a clever thought, but yeah, I see things going boom.

Evergrenade. I like that.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:18:53pm

re: #5 mmmirele

China is going to be in a similar position in about 15 more years or so.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:28:04pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:33:08pm

Off to work. BBL.

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:37:07pm

I found this an interesting concept. I am not a lawyer, so I did not upload images for this comment. But there are plenty at the links below.

Spencer Byles spent a year in the forests of France creating a series of sculptures.

Years ago, the gifted artist lived in the country with his family and decided to add some extra magic and mystery to woods nearby. He dedicated the next 12 months to weaving unique sculptures out of branches and other natural materials. While temporary, they all leave a lasting impression on those lucky enough to find them.

15 Breathtaking Sculptures You Can Find Hidden In French Woods
inspiremore.com

Artist Spent a Year in the Woods Creating Mysterious Sculptures
mymodernmet.com

Spencer Byles’ Website Splash Page
spencerbyles.net

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retired cynic  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:39:31pm

re: #12 ckkatz

jaunte needs to try something like that!

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:41:05pm

re: #13 retired cynic

jaunte needs to try something like that!

Ha! Good point. I had not even made the connection. But yes!

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plansbandc  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:53:28pm

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2021 • 9:59:51pm

re: #15 plansbandc

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2021 • 10:07:26pm

Looks like three Vermont State Troopers tried to forge vaccine cards, got caught and lost their jobs. The interesting part is that they were turned in by other troopers.

Three Vermont state troopers have resigned after they were accused of being involved in a scheme to create fake coronavirus vaccination cards in the nation’s most vaccinated state, the state police announced Tuesday.

Shawn Sommers and Raymond Witkowski resigned Aug. 10, a day after a colleague raised concerns about the alleged fraud to supervisors, while David Pfindel’s resignation took effect Friday after an investigation by Vermont’s Department of Public Safety, according to a police statement. Authorities said the three men, who were reported to supervisors by their fellow troopers, “are suspected of having varying roles in the creation of fraudulent covid-19 vaccination cards, which may be a violation of federal law.”

The Vermont State Police said they were unable to announce the resignations before Tuesday, or provide any additional details about the case, because the FBI is investigating the matter. It remains unclear why and for whom the troopers allegedly made the fake cards.

State troopers accused of making fake vaccination cards resign after colleagues turn them in
washingtonpost.com

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2021 • 10:15:21pm

The slow collapse of the healthcare system is easy to watch in realtime on Twitter.

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A Cranky One  Sep 19, 2021 • 10:26:55pm

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A Cranky One  Sep 19, 2021 • 10:27:51pm

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2021 • 10:55:19pm

I so fucking hate the internet provider that the new company saddled us with. Yeah, the last guys were prone to issues when they did the major upgrade, but at least most of that was cleared up in the first months and we were getting near gigabit speeds even with every room occupied. Now that we’re owned by the hospitality equiv of RyanAir, our internet is not only intentionally crippled in order to force people to “upgrade” to get speeds over a megabit, but they also drop out at odd hours with little warning and no explanation besides “Try turning it off and on again.”

A year ago, I could have downloaded a 20Gb game while watching streaming video at the same time. Now I’m stuck watching Youtube videos at resolutions that I haven’t seen in over a decade.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2021 • 10:55:54pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

The slow collapse of the healthcare system is easy to watch in realtime on Twitter.

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Shiny new med school graduates are about 26; then a couple more years before they can call themselves a specialist. 41 years later, no wonder he can’t keep doing double shifts 7 days a week.

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:00:16pm

Frum is a supporter of mandates. He has been posting mandate successes for the past week. Here is one:

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:07:00pm

And here’s another success:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:09:00pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:33:07pm

Skiing is a dangerous sport.

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Senders:

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@t_hammond96
Plus some unknowns

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:44:58pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:48:33pm

So we’re now into the first hour of internet downtime and some cheeky prick has named his wifi hotspot “Surveillance Van.”

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ckkatz  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:53:54pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

Now there is someone we haven’t heard from for a while. Anybody know how he is doing?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 19, 2021 • 11:54:57pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

So we’re now into the first hour of internet downtime and some cheeky prick has named his wifi hotspot “Surveillance Van.”

My WiFi at home is CIA_MOBILE_HOTSPOT

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ckkatz  Sep 20, 2021 • 12:01:20am

I posted a while ago about the New Abnormal podcast where an interviewee noted that KellyAnne Conway’s career is past its expiration date. (Which means that I will, in my mind, forever associate KellyAnne Conway with curdled milk. And cannot unsee that.)

In this same podcast, WashPost Health Reporter Dan Diamond mentioned Lawrence Wright’s fictional plague book “The End of October”. And stated that he thought the author modeled the book’s hero after Dr Peter Hotez.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 12:24:01am

Halla-fuckin’-lujah, the internet is back up. Thankfully I only had one guest this time call to ask me why it was down and I was able to BS them about “maintenance.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 20, 2021 • 1:16:40am
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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 1:23:52am

re: #33 Dread Pirate Ron

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Over the years, I’ve heard so many of my generation and the elder members of “Gen Z” suggest that the problems with our political system are because we’ve too many old people in power and not enough young people around to bring “new ideas” to the table.

So I’d like to thank Madison for serving as the perfect example of why such arguments generally lack merit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2021 • 1:26:41am

Continued fallout from the submarine deal:

France cancels defense meeting with UK, sources say

..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2021 • 1:29:12am

It will come as no surprise that a house cannot stand up to a wall of lava:

Así arrasa la lava del volcán un casa en La Palma

..

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 20, 2021 • 1:48:37am

I haven’t plugged ebikes for a few days so here….

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 20, 2021 • 2:09:08am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 2:11:49am

re: #5 mmmirele

I knew it was high, but I didn’t realize it was this high.

That’s right, folks, Japan has nearly a third of its population at retirement age or above.

People look on having and raising a family as a personal choice and one that should not be favored over the option of remaining childless. But childbirth and childrearing is an issue that relates to whole societies.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 20, 2021 • 2:13:06am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 20, 2021 • 2:24:37am

This is a great photo…

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Nojay UK  Sep 20, 2021 • 2:28:52am

re: #35 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Continued fallout from the submarine deal:

Heh. This foofaraw could cost the Royal Navy half a submarine.

They call it ‘battleship inflation’, warships are getting bigger and bigger as the years go on and the same thing holds for submarines — a modern Astute SSN weighs in at about 7,500 tonnes, twice the size of the last non-nuclear sub the Royal Navy operated. They only have four Astutes in service with another one working up before commissioning and another two planned. There are two older Trafalagar-class SSNs still in service but they’re ageing out rapidly, life-restricted by the fuel load in their reactors.

The French are in the same situation with fewer bigger (and more capable) SSNs. Both nations operate a ballistic missile sub fleet with nuclear weapons, each keeping one SSBN at sea at all times. However a second-strike SSBN needs a minder, an escort SSN to keep the Bad Guys off their tail since they are obviously a priority target for the Other Side, just in case.

The unconfirmed but understood protocol is that for the past decade or so both the French and British on-station SSBNs have been assigned the same patrol ‘box’ in the Bay of Biscay while both navies take it in turn to supply a single SSN as escort for the two bombers. This led to an embarrassing collision between the two on-patrol SSBNs a few years back — since they’re almost indetectable they couldn’t avoid hitting each other in part because they have to operate relatively close together for one SSN to cover both SSBNs.

If the SSN time-sharing agreement between the Royal Navy and the French Navy breaks down over this political mess then the RN will have to allocate a minder SSN to that duty full-time again, cutting into the limited number of subs they have to hand.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 2:36:44am

re: #43 Nojay UK

Heh. This foofaraw could cost the Royal Navy half a submarine.

They really seem to have trouble thinking things through.

But there could be one long-term Brexit benefit if the British are aware enough to use it: they have cut off their pool of cheap, easily exploited labor to put in jobs like freight hauling, agriculture, food processing, hospitality, food service, etc. (sound familiar, America?)

Does this mean they are actually going to raise wages and improve working conditions for their domestic work force? Will this mean higher wages to cope with the inevitable rise in prices as they no longer have foreigners willing to work long hours for low wages in awful conditions?

It could even turn out to be a long-term Brexit benefit, but we will have to wait and see how they (fail to) deal with it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 2:44:40am

re: #35 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Continued fallout from the submarine deal:

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Found a pretty good (if long) breakdown of the Attack-class program and its origins here:

The History of Australia’s Attack-class Submarine 2009-2020

tl;dr: The Aussies were the victims of their own procurement process because the guy who wrote it got hired by the French to sell them on a paper project versus the Japanese and German offerings which not only existed but would have fit Australia’s needs for a fraction of the cost.

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steve_davis  Sep 20, 2021 • 3:08:32am

re: #5 mmmirele

I knew it was high, but I didn’t realize it was this high.

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That’s right, folks, Japan has nearly a third of its population at retirement age or above.

hey, you don’t encourage immigration and this is gonna happen to ya.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 3:15:29am

re: #46 steve_davis

hey, you don’t encourage immigration and this is gonna happen to ya.

and a society that reveres “family” in the sense of maintaining tradition and not in encouraging families to have more children.

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steve_davis  Sep 20, 2021 • 3:18:17am

re: #42 Dread Pirate Ron

This is a great photo…

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don’t know who that is walking out of the volcano, but I can think of 3 reasons someone might be walking out of a volcano, and 2 of them are bad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 3:36:51am

Germany also has a pay-as-you-go pension system: they need to keep the birth or immigration rate up in order to maintain the balance. Of course, it was designed in the early 50’ and its designer and founder, Ludwig Erhardt commented “people will always have children”

Then came The Pill…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:03:52am

Hoist by their own petard, chapter 463:

Anti-mask FL GOP bookkeeper dies of COVID — leaving party without access to finance software

After spending months railing against COVID-19 precautions and criticizing Dr. Anthony Fauci, a Republican Party official in Florida passed away this week — leaving his county-level GOP organization without access to critical financial accounts.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:06:26am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and a society that reveres “family” in the sense of maintaining tradition and not in encouraging families to have more children.

But it’s happened after the baby boom of the 1950s. Increased affluence led more families to invest resources in one or two children to perpetuate the middle class life that only came after the 1960s for many. Then of course the bubble burst of the ’90s has meant that fewer men feel that they can provide for a family on what they can scrape together from the gig economy while young women prefer living at home, putting off marriage until until late 20s or early 30s (if getting married at all) so that they can save their income to enjoy an occasional lunch out and a Louis Vitton bag (even if it’s really a knock off) and the demographic arrow starts to point down. The slow death of the agricultural village is a side effect, I guess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:08:48am

re: #51 Barefoot Grin

But it’s happened after the baby boom of the 1950s. Increased affluence led more families to invest resources in one or two children to perpetuate the middle class life that only came after the 1960s for many.

“Family values” means creating economic and social conditions that encourage families. Not just banning abortion and gay marriage.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:13:25am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:22:12am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Family values” means creating economic and social conditions that encourage families. Not just banning abortion and gay marriage.

Yes. I was just giving historical context. The government was aware of the potential problems in the 1950s and dispatched women to teach/push contraception, particularly in the countryside. Still, families were large. That generation coincided with increased prosperity, better education, and better health services. Men tended to self-select for death with stress, tobacco, alcohol, and perhaps jobs in polluted places. But women lived on.

I’ve heard that there are parallels with western Europe. Does this track at all with Germany?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:24:23am

re: #43 Nojay UK

I’m still a bit puzzled by the Aussie’s desire to increase their naval capabilities.

Are they going to torpedo refugee ships coming from Sulawesi?

I can understand why we, the US, want to sell them goods.

First, to get more money into our defense industry, and keep the submarine vendors in the black.

Secondly, we think Australia will always be our ally so if something stirs up with some major power we can call on them to help.

But if I were an Australian I’d be asking some hard questions right now, such as, what is really the big picture here? Why are we in an arms race? And, if we’re so small that we can’t build all the stuff ourselves, do we really want to take on the burden of the life-cycle of a naval vessel (which goes on for decades) for which we depend upon foreign suppliers?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:34:44am

re: #54 Barefoot Grin

Yes. I was just giving historical context. The government was aware of the potential problems in the 1950s and dispatched women to teach/push contraception, particularly in the countryside. Still, families were large. That generation coincided with increased prosperity, better education, and better health services. Men tended to self-select for death with stress, tobacco, alcohol, and perhaps jobs in polluted places. But women lived on.

I’ve heard that there are parallels with western Europe. Does this track at all with Germany?

German birth rates are way below replacement, currently around 1.6.

This again is due to the economic situation in which housewives have to work full-time to help finance the cost of raising and housing a family, especially with ever-rising real estate and rental costs.

And their education system that keeps the most educated women in school/university until their mid-to-late 20’s, whereupon they have to establish themselves in their new careers and are not in a position to think about taking time to raise a family until they are pushing 30.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:36:48am

re: #55 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But if I were an Australian I’d be asking some hard questions right now, such as, what is really the big picture here? Why are we in an arms race? And, if we’re so small that we can’t build all the stuff ourselves, do we really want to take on the burden of the life-cycle of a naval vessel (which goes on for decades) for which we depend upon foreign suppliers?

I watched a Netflix spy/intelligence series called Pine Gap and one of the ongoing themes is the nature of Australia’s strategic position: always closely related to the US/UK due to history and language but utterly dominated by China.

And that the city of Shanghai alone has a bigger population than all of Australia…

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darthstar  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:39:22am

Jesus…Idaho implemented a universal DNR order:

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:39:44am

re: #30 Colère Tueur de Lapin

My WiFi at home is CIA_MOBILE_HOTSPOT

My phone hotspot is “Fuck Off”.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:40:52am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:43:02am

re: #58 darthstar

Death Panels.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:46:49am

Every time I try to understand Australian politics I’m hit with the fortress-Australia mentality that appears to be popular there. Murdoch (he did come from there after all) has contributed to the anti-immigrant feelings of so many through the usual hate-mongering.

Australia has too few people to have the industrial base to supply all of its defense capabilities.

They don’t have the birthrate to grow very quickly, and don’t want immigrants.

Some will object to my claims and point out that Australia does allow some immigrants.

Yes, but they seem to be particularly upset about people from their neighboring region.

And the government is very… I think the Brits might use the word “cheeky” … about immigration.

The official government data claims There were over 7.6 million migrants living in Australia. And to emphasize how big that is by further claiming that is “29.8% of Australia’s population”.

That all sounds so progressive… until you think about it.

They are counting as a “migrant” anyone born not in Australia. So some 80yo grandma who came from Greece in the 1940’s is still a “migrant”.

In actual annual terms, the last year of count (up to middle of 2020) was 194,400 net immigrants for an entire year.

It should be noted that the fertility rate in Australia has been below replacement since 1976.

The writing is on the wall.

It is simply this: Australia needs immigrants.

They surely need more than they are letting in currently.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 20, 2021 • 4:52:08am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German birth rates are way below replacement, currently around 1.6.

This again is due to the economic situation in which housewives have to work full-time to help finance the cost of raising and housing a family, especially with ever-rising real estate and rental costs.

And their education system that keeps the most educated women in school/university until their mid-to late 20’s, whereupon they have to establish themselves in their new careers and are not in a position to think about taking time to raise a family until they are pushing 30.

My German nieces (early and mid 20s) are going through what you’ve described right now. Back in the 2000s my MIL in Japan ran for mayor of a small city (pop. 250,000) on the single issue of increased childcare for working women. She got walloped by the old man “women should stay at home and have more babies” candidate. Nothing has really changed.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:11:28am

re: #55 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m still a bit puzzled by the Aussie’s desire to increase their naval capabilities.

Are they going to torpedo refugee ships coming from Sulawesi?

I can understand why we, the US, want to sell them goods.

First, to get more money into our defense industry, and keep the submarine vendors in the black.

Secondly, we think Australia will always be our ally so if something stirs up with some major power we can call on them to help.

But if I were an Australian I’d be asking some hard questions right now, such as, what is really the big picture here? Why are we in an arms race? And, if we’re so small that we can’t build all the stuff ourselves, do we really want to take on the burden of the life-cycle of a naval vessel (which goes on for decades) for which we depend upon foreign suppliers?

As of right now, my understanding is that the AUSUK deal basically involves the Aussies collaborating with the Brits on a sub design while licensing nuke tech in part or totally from us. There’s a lot of critics screaming that they’re “starting from scratch” which ignores that the French hadn’t even settled on a final design and the actual keel-laying for the first ship was still another 3 years off.

It’s not really an arms race so much as the Aussies shifting in their role, as the strategic picture has changed in the 10+ years since the original framework for procuring a new sub class was laid out. If anything, seeing the way we acted towards our allies during the Trump years has probably inspired them to seek out subs that can act more independently than simply as coastal defense ships.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:14:18am
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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:36:01am

re: #64 Targetpractice

which ignores that the French hadn’t even settled on a final design

The French had a “final design”. The Australians rejected it as they have rejected all existing boats since this whole sorry mess started in 2007.

Now, once again, it’s back to the drawing board.

If you think putting US reactors in a UK designed sub is going to easy I would like to talk to you about some bridges I have to sell.

And what would be the point? The Rolls Royce reactor in the Astutes is perfectly OK. Why try to shoehorn the reactor from the much bigger Virginia class boats into the smaller Astutes?

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:37:27am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:39:04am

re: #66 John Hughes

The French had a “final design”. The Australians rejected it as they have rejected all existing boats since this whole sorry mess started in 2007.

Now, once again, it’s back to the drawing board.

If you think putting US reactors in a UK designed sub is going to easy I would like to talk to you about some bridges I have to sell.

And what would be the point? The Rolls Royce reactor in the Astutes is perfectly OK. Why try to shoehorn the reactor from the much bigger Virginia class boats into the smaller Astutes?

It looks like a big fight about what defense contractor gets boatloads of money, so I just don’t care.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:43:40am

re: #68 No Malarkey!

It looks like a big fight about what defense contractor gets boatloads of money, so I just don’t care.

What you did there, I see it.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:45:44am

re: #68 No Malarkey!

It looks like a big fight about what defense contractor gets boatloads of money, so I just don’t care.

Personally, the way this has gone:

Ok, we go with the Japanese…

Nah, we put it out to tender again…

Well, it’s the French that have got it…

No, we’re going with a US/UK system…

At each stage refusing off-the-shelf solutions and insisting on new designs.

I wonder how much of those billions is going into kickbacks for the famously honest Australian political class.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:49:35am

re: #70 John Hughes

Personally, the way this has gone:

Ok, we go with the Japanese…

Nah, we put it out to tender again…

Well, it’s the French that have got it…

No, we’re going with a US/UK system…

At each stage refusing off-the-shelf solutions and insisting on new designs.

I wonder how much of those billions is going into kickbacks for the famously honest Australian political class.

Paul Kelly, “Little Kings”

In the land of the little kings
There’s a price on everything
And everywhere the little kings
Are getting away with murder

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:50:10am

re: #66 John Hughes

The French had a “final design”. The Australians rejected it as they have rejected all existing boats since this whole sorry mess started in 2007.

Now, once again, it’s back to the drawing board.

If you think putting US reactors in a UK designed sub is going to easy I would like to talk to you about some bridges I have to sell.

And what would be the point? The Rolls Royce reactor in the Astutes is perfectly OK. Why try to shoehorn the reactor from the much bigger Virginia class boats into the smaller Astutes?

The French had a concept, what really sold their proposal is they were willing to agree to allowing the Aussies to build whatever design came of that concept domestically while the Japanese and Germans were only willing to sell them the subs. And even that was falling apart as the French already announced in 2019 that a third of the originally agreed work was being shifted back to French workers.

Really, that’s the biggest crime on the part of the Australian government in all this, that they insisted on treating the procurement of a next generation attack sub as a jobs program. So much of the money already spent was sunk into trying to bring facilities and training up to snuff to build what would have ended up being second-class subs. And then they either lied or were lied to about the total cost of the program, trying to sell the $80B price tag as the cost of the whole thing over the life of the subs rather than just the cost of building the damned boats.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 5:59:44am

re: #72 Targetpractice

The French had a concept, what really sold their proposal is they were willing to agree to allowing the Aussies to build whatever design came of that concept domestically while the Japanese and Germans were only willing to sell them the subs. And even that was falling apart as the French already announced in 2019 that a third of the originally agreed work was being shifted back to French workers.

Really, that’s the biggest crime on the part of the Australian government in all this, that they insisted on treating the procurement of a next generation attack sub as a jobs program. So much of the money already spent was sunk into trying to bring facilities and training up to snuff to build what would have ended up being second-class subs. And then they either lied or were lied to about the total cost of the program, trying to sell the $80B price tag as the cost of the whole thing over the life of the subs rather than just the cost of building the damned boats.

Weaponized Keynesianism. Imagine if instead they just spent that money to create jobs to make people’s lives better.

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jeffreyw  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:03:53am

Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:09:29am

re: #28 Targetpractice

So we’re now into the first hour of internet downtime and some cheeky prick has named his wifi hotspot “Surveillance Van.”

It’s a shtick—variations all around here. Unless it’s really THEM.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:10:18am

re: #28 Targetpractice

So we’re now into the first hour of internet downtime and some cheeky prick has named his wifi hotspot “Surveillance Van.”

Just scanned my area and Uhura’s Subspace Chit Chat Room, Peaches En Regalia, Instant Karma and Carnation Malted Milk Shop are on line.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:12:16am

Just a little while ago from La Palma’s TV station:

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:12:52am

Hopefully this means kids age 5 and up can start getting vaccinated by November.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:15:02am

Only one of my neighbors is on-trend this morning, naming their WiFi: “FBI Outpost”.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:19:30am

I’ll be waiting for someone to name their network “Jesus can see your porn here”.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:22:28am

re: #72 Targetpractice

The French had a concept

By “final design” I didn’t mean the diesel-electric Shortfin Barracuda. I meant the nuclear powered Barracuda. The Australians rejected it because they didn’t want a nuclear powered boat.

So now they’re buying nuclear powered boats.

The claim is that they didn’t want the Barracuda because the French reactors need a mid-life refuel/refurbish unlike the US/UK HEU based reactors, but with even worse CO2 emissions per capita than Saudi Arabia I think Australia needs to seriously think about investing in the nuclear power expertise that would have let them refuel the Barracudas.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:22:30am

The person who named their wifi some variation of MAGA in my neighborhood has either changed names, moved on, or gone silent.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:24:01am

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:25:19am

re: #81 John Hughes

By “final design” I didn’t mean the diesel-electric Shortfin Barracuda. I meant the nuclear powered Barracuda. The Australians rejected it because they didn’t want a nuclear powered boat.

So now they’re buying nuclear powered boats.

The claim is that they didn’t want the Barracuda because the French reactors need a mid-life refuel/refurbish unlike the US/UK HEU based reactors, but with even worse CO2 emissions per capita than Saudi Arabia I think Australia needs to seriously think about investing in the nuclear power expertise that would have let them refuel the Barracudas.

That’s news to me, my understanding was that the decision was totally political because of worry that they’d piss of China, who was and still remains one of their largest trade partners.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:40:51am

Morning Lizards. It’s going to be a great day.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:42:18am

re: #85 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Morning Lizards. It’s going to be a great day.

We’re about to get thunderstormed, so it’s off to a good start. Unfortunately, my otherwise decent mood is tempered by having to deal with a shitload of misogyny from something that happened to Mrs. Fish last night while we were having our personal night off.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:46:19am

re: #73 No Malarkey!

Weaponized Keynesianism. Imagine if instead they just spent that money to create jobs to make people’s lives better.

They would still be close to China.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:46:38am

re: #84 Targetpractice

France offered nuclear powered Barracudas in June:

Defending Australia’s decision this week, Scott Morrison, Australia’s prime minister, said he had told French president Emmanuel Macron in June there were “very real issues about whether a conventional submarine capability” would address Australia’s strategic security needs in the Indo-Pacific. French officials say Paris offered that month to convert the submarines into nuclear-powered ones as it has the technology, but was met with silence.

ft.com

Australia didn’t want the nuclear Barracudas because it would need a “sovereign nuclear capability”:

The nuclear option was taken off the table initially because Australia does not have a domestic nuclear capability. However, if the nuclear work is all carried out in the United States or the United Kingdom, experts say Australia could do the rest here - assuming any legislative and political hurdles are overcome.

— Christopher Pyne, former Australian Defense industry minister — theguardian.com

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:47:40am

re: #85 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:50:19am
Never Trumpers in the GOP are very worried about Trump chasing Gonzalez from Congress….
…Olivia Troye, a top aide to Mike Pence, said: “I hope that people will rally around Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Jaime Herrera Beutler and the rest of the nine. They are facing a very rough time, and they did make a sacrifice— they chose our country and our Constitution over their party and the madman.

That is not an effing “sacrifice”
You people have lost your way

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:53:31am

Greets and saluts from the gloriously sunny and comfortable NYC metro area. Wish weather was like this all the time, but beggars can’t be choosy.

What I can choose is to vaccinate, do business with those businesses that urge masking and vaccinations, and stay away from those that don’t.

There’d be no quicker and easier way to stop the madness on airlines with unruly passengers endangering flight staff and others by refusing to mask and assaulting staff who insist on masking on board. You don’t have the right to potentially infect others with a deadly disease. I have the freedom to not be endangered by these fuckers’ dumbassery.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:53:46am

re: #85 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Morning Lizards. It’s going to be a great day.

Loving that, because I know intimately the sludge Stonekettle is talking about. We seem to live about 50 miles from him.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:54:22am

re: #86 Dopamine Fish

We’re about to get thunderstormed, so it’s off to a good start. Unfortunately, my otherwise decent mood is tempered by having to deal with a shitload of misogyny from something that happened to Mrs. Fish last night while we were having our personal night off.

That sucks. I hope you gave (or are going to give) the asshole and or his employer an ear full. There is no reason for that type of behavior.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:55:23am

re: #93 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

That sucks. I hope you gave (or are going to give) the asshole and or his employer an ear full. There is no reason for that type of behavior.

It’s gamers, so there’s literally nothing I can do about it. I have no idea who they are, and she’ll probably never encounter the same people ever again, but it discourages her from playing the games she loves.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:55:36am
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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:56:26am

re: #89 JOE 🥓

I’d say an inanimate carbon rod, but that’s got much more utility than DeSantis.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:58:43am

re: #94 Dopamine Fish

It’s gamers, so there’s literally nothing I can do about it. I have no idea who they are, and she’ll probably never encounter the same people ever again, but it discourages her from playing the games she loves.

GAAAH! Yeah, that shit has been going on for way too long from what I have seen/read. One of the reasons I am so damn glad I never got bitten by that bug.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 6:59:37am

re: #87 Belafon

They would still be close to China.

I don’t believe China will invade Australia if they don’t have nuclear attack subs, or that attack subs would dissuade China if they were determined to invade Australia. The money would be better spent on jobs that are done for the purpose of making people’s lives better.

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:07:41am

re: #84 Targetpractice

That’s news to me, my understanding was that the decision was totally political because of worry that they’d piss of China, who was and still remains one of their largest trade partners.

An analysis in 6 short paragraphs

…will make it very hard for Republicans to get traction accusing Biden of being soft of China. His response to that will be: “I just sold our ally Australia some of the nastiest weapons in the world in order to make it clear to China that they are not the only big player in the Western Pacific.” And on top of that, the deal will create thousands of good-paying jobs with the companies that get the contracts to build the subs. Compared to this big win, Afghanistan is pretty insignificant. You don’t spend 44 years in national politics without learning how the game is played

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:09:45am

Looks like one of the insurrectionists is now a fugitive from justice.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:10:58am

re: #98 No Malarkey!

I don’t believe China will invade Australia if they don’t have nuclear attack subs, or that attack subs would dissuade China if they were determined to invade Australia. The money would be better spent on jobs that are done for the purpose of making people’s lives better.

It’s not just about China attacking Australia. It’s about presence in the Western Pacific.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:11:37am

Right wing lunatics:

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:13:35am

re: #101 Belafon

It’s not just about China attacking Australia. It’s about presence in the Western Pacific.

Which to me just sounds like a rationale to throw obscene amounts of money away to defense contractors.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:14:44am

re: #98 No Malarkey!

I don’t believe China will invade Australia if they don’t have nuclear attack subs, or that attack subs would dissuade China if they were determined to invade Australia. The money would be better spent on jobs that are done for the purpose of making people’s lives better.

Reducing that logic would relegate all the world’s armies to nostalgic ceremonial roles. Spending their wealth on defense is Australia’s dues to belong to a club that puts deadly muscle to the survival of The Free-ish World. Perhaps it can be better spent.

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:15:55am

re: #101 Belafon

It’s not just about China attacking Australia. It’s about presence in the Western Pacific.

This.
Balance of power in the region

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:16:59am

re: #102 lawhawk

Right wing lunatics:

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Damn liberals
AND
Why didn’t Biden stop me???

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:17:10am

re: #85 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:18:38am

re: #106 Dangerman

Damn liberals
AND
Why didn’t Biden stop me???

For all that the Republicans whine about the “nanny state”, they sure are upset when the state doesn’t nanny them the right way.

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:24:27am
Venture capitalist and Facebook board member Peter Thiel told an associate that Mark Zuckerberg agreed to not fact-check political posts if the Trump administration would steer clear of any “heavy-handed regulations,” New York magazine reports.

A quid pro quo
Anyone quelle surprised?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:27:17am

re: #109 Dangerman

A quid pro quo
Anyone quelle surprised?

More about Marky Mark’s Trump asskissing here:

Venture capitalist Peter Thiel told a confidant that he and Zuckerberg met with the former president, Jared Kushner and their spouses at the White House in 2019, where the Facebook founder promised not to fact check political speech if the administration agreed not to impose heavy-handed regulations, according to excerpts from The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power published by New York Magazine.

rawstory.com

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:27:19am

re: #109 Dangerman

A quid pro quo
Anyone quelle surprised?

Surprised but not surprised, if that makes sense. Obviously, this specific incident is news to me, but it’s hardly surprising that Facebook sought to take advantage of the notoriously corrupt Trump administration. It also explains a lot about how the right-wing bullshit machine was able to stay operational, and the obvious partisanship that their censors have been getting away with.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:28:24am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Reducing that logic would relegate all the world’s armies to nostalgic ceremonial roles.

I wish we could live in that world.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:28:52am

re: #103 No Malarkey!

Which to me just sounds like a rationale to throw obscene amounts of money away to defense contractors.

That may be true. It’s also about who gets to sail through, fish, and or gather resources in most of the sea near China. Our policy is everyone sails. China not so much.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:32:39am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Reducing that logic would relegate all the world’s armies to nostalgic ceremonial roles. Spending their wealth on defense is Australia’s dues to belong to a club that puts deadly muscle to the survival of The Free-ish World. Perhaps it can be better spent.

When we all agree to it.

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Teukka  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:33:32am

CONTENT WARNING - TRIGGER WARNING - QULTIST TINFOIL

Why does everything have to be an eeebil konspiraceh to them?

Iframe

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:33:34am

re: #112 No Malarkey!

I wish we could live in that world.

I want to go to Andorra.

Pete Seeger, Andorra

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:34:09am

Except that’s not at all what happened.

What chairman Milley was trying to do, as we show in the book, was contain a national security emergency.”

He added: “While these calls with general Li were held on a top-secret back channel, they were not secret. This is not someone working in isolation. He was reading people in in the national security community.”

Esper is a civilian. He (apparently) told Milley to reach out to the Chinese. If Esper told Milley not to do that and Milley did it anyway, that would be a breach of civilian control of the military. that’s not what happened.

confusing the idea of “civilian control of the military” with “Presidential control of the military” - i.e., that orders to the military must originate from the President and not his Defense Secretary.

that’s never how it worked before and not how it works today.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:35:40am

re: #117 Dangerman

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Except that’s not at all what happened.
What chairman Milley was trying to do, as we show in the book, was contain a national security emergency.”

He added: “While these calls with general Li were held on a top-secret back channel, they were not secret. This is not someone working in isolation. He was reading people in in the national security community.”

Greenwald’s process:
Trump fires off nuclear missile.
Dems: Impeachment
Republicans: I don’t see any reason to convict him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:36:34am

my wifi is nothing scary:
“Here Be Dragons”

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:37:18am
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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:38:02am

The US should mandate all travelers be vaccinated/masked on all flights originating/terminating in the US. The US is a bigger threat to other countries and to our own citizens by allowing unfettered flights with passengers who refuse to vaccinate/mask, and where the antivaxxers assault flight staff on a regular basis.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:38:52am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:39:49am

re: #121 lawhawk

That’s going to set a requirement for control of the Mexican border.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:44:15am

Some proof about the vaccination conspiracy. The author lays out real numbers (taken from Indiana) and conclusions that you aren’t going to read in most places on the intertubz. There is math required, but he ‘splains it good.

Now, as most antis just say that the numbers are fake and you can’t believe anything anymore, this exercise is easily dismissed by those types.

Vaccination: The Truth Behind the Numbers

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darthstar  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:45:56am

So I go away for two weeks and look what happened in my greenhouse. Who says you can’t grow tomatoes on the coast?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:46:52am

re: #115 Teukka

CONTENT WARNING - TRIGGER WARNING - QULTIST TINFOIL

[Embedded content]

Why does everything have to be an eeebil konspiraceh to them?

[Embedded content]

Because otherwise it would mean that acting stupidly is their own fault.

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darthstar  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:48:16am

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darthstar  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:49:21am

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Because otherwise it would mean that acting stupidly is their own fault.

If it inspires one or two of them to get vaccinated then okay.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:50:46am

fivethirtyeight.com has an article on the Canadian election today. Trudeau is likely, but not guaranteed, to be reelected PM.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:55:15am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 7:57:09am

re: #113 Rightwingconspirator

That may be true. It’s also about who gets to sail through, fish, and or gather resources in most of the sea near China. Our policy is everyone sails. China not so much.

The first time the so-called Nine-Dash Line (also Ten-Dash, and Eleven-Dash which goes east of Taiwan) was first asserted was 1947. That’s the PRC’s historic claim.

That clam was made by the Republic of China based on conquering islands captured from Japan in WW2 and asserted via the Potsdam Convention. However, Potsdam never addressed issues in the South China Sea.

Moreover, Taiwan has also not given up the claim. They also claim the entire South China Sea from the Nine-Dash Line map, since they drew it in 1947.

China also claims it due to the actual historic name South China Sea. China’s in the name, therefore it must belong to China. Iran made a similar claim over the Persian Gulf, which turned into a pissing contest with Google Maps.

If such logic was followed, Mexico could claim the Gulf of Mexico. I imagine all the other nations which border it would be a might put-out. Saudi Arabia might try to claim the Arabian Sea, &c.

The UN doesn’t accept the map on the grounds that historically neither the People’s Republic of China nor the Republic of China did anything historically with those waters.

There is more there than the issue of shipping; there is also thought to be large quantities of oil and gas there.

The United States’s arguments against it are manifold:

a) Freedom of navigation (a huge portion of the world’s trade goes through there)

b) Allies in the region who refute the claim

c) Traditional claims of territorial waters throughout modern history are 12 nautical miles, and by treaty an exclusive economic zone of 200 nautical miles.

d) Traditional claims of territorial waters define the boundary of those waters (12 nautical miles, or specific geographic delineation such as longitude and latitude). The Nine-Dash Line has no such delineation, never did, and has been moved on Chinese and Taiwanese maps numerous times since 1947.

e) There are already negotiated boundaries between various nations bordering the South China Sea. For example, Vietnam and China have a negotiated and internationally recognised border through the Gulf of Tonkin. The Nine-Dash Line claims waters already agreed to by treaty.

f) Indonesia has a separate complaint, though the Nine-Dash Line does not affect Indonesian waters. In response to the complaint, China altered the line to include islands which are part of Indonesia’s exclusive economic zone.

g) A cable was leaked and published showing one of of China’s chief government maritime lawyers stating he knew of no historic basis for the Nine-Dash Line.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:00:51am
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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:01:33am

re: #115 Teukka

And it would have worked if it wasn’t for those meddling Qanons.

Oh, wait, it’s still working.’

And we didn’t do it to them, they did it to themselves.

Time to mutter something about personal responsibility?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:03:30am

re: #132 The Pie Overlord!

I designate you an honorary Pole.

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Teukka  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:03:55am

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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darthstar  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:06:47am

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

Based on the old tag, she’s used to having her NOT A FREAKING CARRY ON gate checked too.

Oh, wait…she’s at ticketing. Never mind.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:07:04am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I designate you an honorary Pole.

My ancestors were from Bialystok.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:08:14am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:12:33am

re: #137 The Pie Overlord!

My ancestors were from Bialystok.

I stand corrected. I designate you a long-lost distant relative.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:15:17am

re: #127 darthstar

Now that Democrats are almost all vaccinated, and the right is starting to get scared into getting vaccinated, it would be a good time to add the microchips.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:17:06am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I stand corrected. I designate you a long-lost distant relative.

According to MyHeritage and 23&Me, I am 92% Ashkenazi, 7% Sephardi, and 1% Eskimo. My sister took the same test, with the same results.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:17:11am

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It will come as no surprise that a house cannot stand up to a wall of lava:

Video.

Mother earth will crush us hairless, pink apes and all of our structures without any thought.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:18:26am

re: #141 The Pie Overlord!

According to MyHeritage and 23&Me, I am 92% Ashkenazi, 7% Sephardi, and 1% Eskimo. My sister took the same test, with the same results.

99% sure you’re related to Bernie Sanders and Larry David.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:19:01am

re: #141 The Pie Overlord!

According to MyHeritage and 23&Me, I am 92% Ashkenazi, 7% Sephardi, and 1% Eskimo. My sister took the same test, with the same results.

Hmm. Someone in your distant past is Inuit?

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:19:28am

re: #142 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Mother earth will crush us hairless, pink apes and all of our structures without any thought.

I’m pretty sure that if Mother Earth could think, we would have (we’d’ve?) been extinct a while ago.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:21:37am

re: #142 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Mother earth will crush us hairless, pink apes and all of our structures without any thought.

Pink?

Thousands flee erupting Mt. Nyiragongo volcano in DR Congo | DW News

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:24:38am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hmm. Someone in your distant past is Inuit?

Or it’s just due to a glitch with the data processing or some such. As I recall, those kind of genetic tests aren’t always the most reliable.

But if it is true, that’s pretty freaking cool!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:25:54am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I stand corrected. I designate you a long-lost distant relative.

Alouette! Cousin! A family member who likes me!

That’s it; you’re my family now. I’ll introduce you to my mother when I get a chance.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:29:01am

re: #146 John Hughes

Another volcano? Earth is trying to kill us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:31:56am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:33:23am

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Or it’s just due to a glitch with the data processing or some such. As I recall, those kind of genetic tests aren’t always the most reliable.

But if it is true, that’s pretty freaking cool!

Some ancestor got exiled to Siberia and brought home a partner.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:36:19am

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

my wifi is nothing scary:
“Here Be Dragons”

Ours is named after my wife, though I want to change it to CIA-VAN.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:37:39am

The wifi here at the Pie Place is called, appropriately, PiePlace

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:38:07am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ours is named after my wife, though I want to change it to CIA-VAN.

I have a 2.4 GHz and a 5 GHz Wi-Fi network, and they are named differently: MiddleEarth and Valinor. My devices are, as you may suspect, named after Lord of the Rings characters; the current cast includes Gandalf, Eowyn, Eomer, and Frodo.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:39:57am

Nicki Minaj and Husband Kenneth Petty’s Campaign to Silence His Sexual Assault Victim (The Daily Beast)

Looks like she fits in pretty well at Fox News.

When you’re somebody’s wife, you’ve gotta be even more prayed up,” Nicki Minaj told her audience in a 2019 episode of her Apple Music show, Queen Radio. “Because you’ve gotta cover your husband in prayer.”

The rapper was responding to criticism she’d received for marrying convicted sex offender Kenneth “Zoo” Petty. Minaj went on to claim that Petty had been wrongfully accused of attempted rape at the age of 15, and that his victim had actually written a letter to the judge back then, in 1995, asking to recant her statement—only to reverse course after she found out she could go to jail for 90 days. “But white is right,” Minaj said.

But Petty’s victim, who has come forward using only her first name, “Jennifer,” is not white; her mother is white and her father is Black. Both she and Petty were 16 years old at the time of the assault, which she reported immediately. She says she never submitted a letter recanting—but alleges that associates of Minaj and Petty’s spent months last year harassing her to do so, going so far as to offer hundreds of thousands of dollars on their behalf. At one point, Jennifer says, she also spoke with Minaj herself. (Minaj and Petty did not respond to requests for comment.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:42:21am

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

I have a 2.4 GHz and a 5 GHz Wi-Fi network, and they are named differently: MiddleEarth and Valinor. My devices are, as you may suspect, named after Lord of the Rings characters; the current cast includes Gandalf, Eowyn, Eomer, and Frodo.

My old modem was simply called “Electron Transfer Unit”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:43:33am

re: #117 Dangerman

Except that’s not at all what happened.

Esper is a civilian. He (apparently) told Milley to reach out to the Chinese. If Esper told Milley not to do that and Milley did it anyway, that would be a breach of civilian control of the military. that’s not what happened.

confusing the idea of “civilian control of the military” with “Presidential control of the military” - i.e., that orders to the military must originate from the President and not his Defense Secretary.

that’s never how it worked before and not how it works today.

Moreover, Mark Esper was Gen. Milley’s immediate supervisor at the time.

“Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces” has always been interpreted to be a ceremonial title. The President doesn’t actually run the military.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:46:18am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Another volcano? Earth is trying to kill us.

“The planet isn’t going anywhere. We are.”
- George Carlin

George Carlin - Saving the Planet

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:47:12am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:47:13am

re: #136 darthstar

Based on the old tag, she’s used to having her NOT A FREAKING CARRY ON gate checked too.

Oh, wait…she’s at ticketing. Never mind.

That would be funny if they checked her and seated the bag. /s

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mmmirele  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:49:56am

I missed this from a couple of weeks ago, but this is the obituary of Latina artist Yolanda Lopez. She was 79.

latimes.com

Her most famous painting is Portrait of the Artist as La Virgen de Guadalupe (1978) and it’s still scandalous today.

But there’s this one, also incredibly appropriate:

A show of her works opens next month in San Diego and you have no idea how tempted I am…

mcasd.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:51:43am

re: #155 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Nicki Minaj and Husband Kenneth Petty’s Campaign to Silence His Sexual Assault Victim (The Daily Beast)

Looks like she fits in pretty well at Fox News.

Ah yes, the old “how much money do we need to pay you to shut the fuck up?” ploy.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:53:26am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mount Nyiragongo erupted back in May — en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:54:05am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:54:09am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Moreover, Mark Esper was Gen. Milley’s immediate supervisor at the time.

“Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces” has always been interpreted to be a ceremonial title. The President doesn’t actually run the military.

It’s more complicated than that. The existence (for convenience) of a Secretary of Defense and a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs creates a secondary administrative line that is theoretically only important in peacetime. In a go-to-war situation the commanders of the numbered armies/designated commands report directly to and take orders from the President. He really is CINC. In practice, the Joint Chiefs exert a great deal of influence even in wartime, if only because the futures of the flag officers depend on them.

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:54:59am

re: #153 The Pie Overlord!

The wifi here at the Pie Place is called, appropriately, PiePlace

We are Stabilized
(because before the pond there was Phoebe and Oakley)

we don’t broadcast the SSID but these days that’s probably a pointless maneuver

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:55:10am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Moreover, Mark Esper was Gen. Milley’s immediate supervisor at the time.

“Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces” has always been interpreted to be a ceremonial title. The President doesn’t actually run the military.

It’s interpreted as the President goes “Go to war” and the generals go “Here”s how we’re going to do it.” Though Lincoln was directly involved in war planning.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:55:17am

Sounds like they want to be Democrats.

Cassidy told NBC’s Meet the Press: “Politicians are not victims. Politicians make a choice. If we choose to look forward, bringing positive solutions to the American people who have needs, we win. If we choose to be bullied, we lose.”

Republicans who let Trump ‘bully’ party will seal midterms defeat, senator says (Guardian via MSN)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:56:17am

re: #167 Belafon

It’s interpreted as the President goes “Go to war” and the generals go “Here”s how we’re going to do it.” Though Lincoln was directly involved in war planning.

FDR ran the war. LBJ moved fucking units around.

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Teukka  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:57:06am
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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:57:12am

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

I have a 2.4 GHz and a 5 GHz Wi-Fi network, and they are named differently: MiddleEarth and Valinor. My devices are, as you may suspect, named after Lord of the Rings characters; the current cast includes Gandalf, Eowyn, Eomer, and Frodo.

when I ran a timesharing datacenter back in the 80’s we named the nodes of the vaxcluster after some clients:

bugs
daffy
elmer

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:58:05am

re: #156 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My old modem was simply called “Electron Transfer Unit”.

did it modulate and demodulate?

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Teukka  Sep 20, 2021 • 8:58:34am

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

I have a 2.4 GHz and a 5 GHz Wi-Fi network, and they are named differently: MiddleEarth and Valinor. My devices are, as you may suspect, named after Lord of the Rings characters; the current cast includes Gandalf, Eowyn, Eomer, and Frodo.

I’m considering to name my WiFi AP’s and networks in ways which will freak out any conspiracy theorist in the range of them :P

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:01:10am

re: #172 Dangerman

did it modulate and demodulate?

Don’t recall. But when my brother visited and wanted to access it he simply said, “ETU is your’s, isn’t it?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:02:42am

re: #156 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My old modem was simply called “Electron Transfer Unit”.

My computer is named “Jane.”

My last computer was named “Lilith.”

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:04:32am

re: #170 Teukka

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Fuck Andy Ngo. He was down here in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago tormenting anti-Trans violence in Koreatown with The Proud Boys a couple blocks from where I live and what REALLY PISSES ME OFF is that the LAPD SIDED WITH THE PROUD BOYS AND LET THOSE THUGS OFF THE HOOK!

Andy Ngo is a terrorist and he should be locked up.

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dat_said  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:05:38am

Interesting engineering to me. Maybe interesting to a few of the rocket fans out there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:05:41am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:11:39am

Ingleside, Texas:

Police: Teen killed 3 family members before turning gun on himself in Ingleside RV

A teenaged boy fatally shot himself in an Ingleside RV just moments before officers discovered the bodies of three family members inside with him, police said.

Authorities converged on an RV park on South Commercial Street, where the bodies were discovered late Wednesday. They were investigating threats and graphic images of the victims they say were shared by the teen on social media.

The investigation, conducted by multiple agencies, including those from Ingleside and Aransas Pass, continued Thursday.

The Department of Public Safety in McAllen told the San Patricio County Sheriff’s Office a 15-year-old boy posted photos of dead family members on social media. Soon after, the Aransas Pass Police Department received information that he threatened to continue the violence at an area school, a news release said.

Sheriff Oscar Rivera said the boy was homeschooled and did not target or specify a specific school.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:16:10am

Regarding mask mandates at colleges, incoming hot take from a doctor.

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William Lewis  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:16:26am

re: #177 dat_said

Interesting engineering to me. Maybe interesting to a few of the rocket fans out there.

Oh, the sound suppression system. Yeah, noisy enough with that system, untenable without it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:17:22am

good fucking grief

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:18:29am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

What’s worse is that this is the sort of shit that plays to their horse-paste-eating base. They laugh, they think it’s funny and clever, they repeat it and get laughs from their stupid friends, it becomes a meme “with a grain of truth, am I right?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:21:34am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

You can’t spell “conservative” without “con.”

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:22:18am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You can’t spell “conservative” without “con.”

And I note that “REPublican” and “REPrehensible” are very similar. Coincidence?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:22:55am
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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:23:13am

re: #185 Dopamine Fish

And I note that “REPublican” and “REPrehensible” are very similar. Coincidence?

Might as well follow the pattern: You can’t spell REPrehensible or REPulsive without REP.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:23:25am

re: #181 William Lewis

Maybe I missed it but one more source of water is the recombined H2O from the hydrogen-oxygen combustion. Of course that’s all spread out over the flight. Not much if any from solid boosters though. All metal oxides I think.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:24:14am

Furnace guys are here. Catch y’all later.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:24:17am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:24:40am

re: #188 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe I missed it but one more source of water is the recombined H2O from the hydrogen-oxygen combustion. Of course that’s all spread out over the flight. Not much if any from solid boosters though. All metal oxides I think.

Not all liquid fueled rockets are LOX/LH2 fueled, either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:25:41am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:27:50am

One lawyer’s rise shows how vaccine misinformation can fuel fundraising and far-right celebrity

Thomas Renz, once a little-known attorney in Ohio with limited litigation experience, boosted his profile with lawsuits challenging coronavirus vaccines

The Post article notes this anti-vaxxer had to take the bar exam 5 times before he passed and now he passes himself off as a know-it-all

washingtonpost.com

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:28:07am

re: #98 No Malarkey!

I don’t believe China will invade Australia if they don’t have nuclear attack subs, or that attack subs would dissuade China if they were determined to invade Australia. The money would be better spent on jobs that are done for the purpose of making people’s lives better.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

Dwight David Eisenhower
16 April 1953

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:30:54am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My son is a PhD student in education there, so I’ll have to ask him if he’s seeing much about this.

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CleverToad  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:31:22am

re: #177 dat_said

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Interesting engineering to me. Maybe interesting to a few of the rocket fans out there.

Very interesting! Thanks for linking this

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:34:10am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

1st thought: They’re a long way from home.
2nd thought: Actual UK healthcare is called the NHS, so they can have the name.
Final thought: I need a lot more caffeine.

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Teukka  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:36:32am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

FundaMENTAList, is this a coincidence?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:37:35am

re: #197 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I made a similar mistake. Don’t feel bad.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:37:52am

re: #198 Teukka

FundaMENTAList, is this a coincidence?

Republicans: Putting the “mental” in “fundamentalist” since the 1960s.

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:38:11am

re: #198 Teukka

FundaMENTAList, is this a coincidence?

now do Lincoln/ Kennedy

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:44:09am

re: #198 Teukka

FundaMENTAList, is this a coincidence?

Google “One Step Beyond TV Series”!

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:47:13am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

I made a similar mistake. Don’t feel bad.

I don’t feel bad. I feel pleasantly goofy when low on caffeine.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:52:27am

The angels are going bowling.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:55:22am

Spreading COVID is “political” to this restaurant’s sick owner because he has “feelings” about masks, probably due to an addiction to Republican propaganda. I don’t know why this couple was even seated. They should have run like hell when told to take off masks at the door. Who enters an establishment that tells you they’re siding with the virus at the door?

Rowlett Restaurant Owner Explains No-Mask Policy After Asking Family To Leave (DFW CBS)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:56:49am

Waiting for some asshole with nothing better to do vigilante/pedant to point out that it wasn’t Pakistan then, though Stuart has good reason to specify the locale in current terms.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:57:05am

re: #204 Dopamine Fish

The angels are going bowling.

LoL. Lets hope they get any strikes next to you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2021 • 9:57:19am

re: #205 Punish Domestic Terrorists

All entrees 50% off on Tyranny Tuesdays! Bring the whole family down to Hang Time for a one of kind dining experience that will leave you breathless!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:02:48am

OMG. Run away. Run. Far. Away. Fast.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:03:25am

re: #209 The Pie Overlord!

OMG. Run away. Run. Far. Away. Fast.

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austin_blue  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:06:06am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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Now do DecREPitude.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:06:08am

re: #63 Barefoot Grin

My German nieces (early and mid 20s) are going through what you’ve described right now. Back in the 2000s my MIL in Japan ran for mayor of a small city (pop. 250,000) on the single issue of increased childcare for working women. She got walloped by the old man “women should stay at home and have more babies” candidate. Nothing has really changed.

Germany is doing well in the area of providing child care but the economic fact is that many women start their careers late and even those that don’t attend college are still often are approaching 30 before they are in an economic position to consider raising a family

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:07:24am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

KY National Guard deploying at UK HealthCare as unvaccinated COVID patients mount

Shouldn’t they be down on the Mexican border keeping all those diseased immigrants out?

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:09:45am
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sagehen  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:10:07am

re: #202 JOE 🥓

Google “One Step Beyond TV Series”!

Madness - One Step Beyond (Official Video)

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:10:15am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

One such patient, my wife’s cousin, is reporting on FB that the Lord healed him. No details, so I don’t know if he is currently hospitalized.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:10:55am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

KY National Guard deploying at UK HealthCare as unvaccinated COVID patients mount

Shouldn’t they be down on the Mexican border keeping all those diseased immigrants out?

Fortunately, our Governor is a Democrat.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:11:07am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

[T]he economic fact is that many women start their careers late and even those that don’t attend college are still often are approaching 30 before they are in an economic position to consider raising a family

Every party of that statement is true for men. The only difference is that it still takes the right body parts to have an actual child.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:11:14am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

KY National Guard deploying at UK HealthCare as unvaccinated COVID patients mount

Shouldn’t they be down on the Mexican border keeping all those diseased immigrants out?

Sister units should be there vaccinating those who make it across.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:12:45am

As a fan of kaiju flicks….yeah, we need this movie.

Godzilla vs Gamera (with added sound effects) @Delta_Area animator

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:14:02am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:14:02am

re: #214 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Kyrsten Sinema net worth
2018: $32,500
2021: $1,000,000
Her salary is $174,000 per year since 2019…🤔

Little Tin Box.

Fiorello - ‘Little Tin Box’ - original Broadway version

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:14:05am

re: #34 Targetpractice

Over the years, I’ve heard so many of my generation and the elder members of “Gen Z” suggest that the problems with our political system are because we’ve too many old people in power and not enough young people around to bring “new ideas” to the table.

So I’d like to thank Madison for serving as the perfect example of why such arguments generally lack merit.

There are vocal young people not in power that you would never want anywhere near power: Jacob Wohl and Laura Loomer, among them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:17:36am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

….

Does this mean they are actually going to raise wages and improve working conditions for their domestic work force? Will this mean higher wages to cope with the inevitable rise in prices as they no longer have foreigners willing to work long hours for low wages in awful conditions?

It could even turn out to be a long-term Brexit benefit, but we will have to wait and see how they (fail to) deal with it.

These are Tories — they certainly have no interest in raising wages/improving benefits for working class people. Of course, there were Labor Party members who supported Brexit — if they ever regain power, that might be possible — but am not counting on that possibility anytime in the near future.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:17:53am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

A patient had the nerve to say to me “this is what you signed up for when you do this job.” when discussing Covid.

I corrected him & said, “no, sir. This is absolutely NOT what I signed up for. I can handle the virus. I’ve never been treated like the enemy till now.”

You are the enemy if you don’t embrace their ideological fantasy that “individual freedom” exempts us from having to show any consideration for our fellow citizens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:18:46am

re: #224 Hecuba’s daughter

These are Tories — they certainly have no interest in raising wages/improving benefits for working class people. Of course, there were Labor Party members who supported Brexit — if they ever regain power, that might be possible — but am not counting on that possibility anytime in the near future.

They will find some way to screw over the UK workers.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:21:56am

re: #215 sagehen

This is the show I’m talking about. Scared me as a kid because it was based on unexplainable events that really happened!

en.wikipedia.org

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austin_blue  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:24:53am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

One such patient, my wife’s cousin, is reporting on FB that the Lord healed him. No details, so I don’t know if he is currently hospitalized.

God also answered the prayers of 690,000 other Americans. He said NO!! to all of them.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:25:06am

Alexa, show me a total disassociation from reality…

“Being the leader of the free world has to be the most demanding job in the whole world and he simply does not have the mental or physical stamina to do this job,” Campos-Duffy opined as Fox News played a video of Biden riding his bike.

“That is why his handlers and his wife, who by the way look increasingly like Visiting Angels, have to schedule in these senior breaks for him so he can take naps and go for bike rides because he can’t concentrate on the job the way he should,” she said.

Campos-Duffy added: “I mean, just compare it to President Donald Trump, who worked these long, long hours and had impromptu hourlong pressers with the media.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:25:42am

re: #229 Targetpractice

Trump tripped walking up a ramp, you dumbasses.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:26:25am

re: #229 Targetpractice

The irrational and extreme hatred for someone purely because of their political affiliation is absolutely baffling to me. I do not understand the right wing in this country.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:27:44am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump tripped walking up a ramp, you dumbasses.

He’s the guy who, in his first major appearance on the international stage at the G7 summit, insisting on being transported by golf cart while the other world leaders walked.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:28:34am

re: #229 Targetpractice

Alexa, show me a total disassociation from reality…

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Fuck 19th Century Fox and every lying asshole that works for them.

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:34:54am

re: #210 Dopamine Fish

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Jay C  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:36:33am

re: #125 darthstar

So I go away for two weeks and look what happened in my greenhouse. Who says you can’t grow tomatoes on the coast?

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And you apparently grew a dog, too!
Good going!!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:37:00am

re: #234 Dangerman

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Dangerman  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:39:37am

re: #229 Targetpractice

Alexa, show me a total disassociation from reality…

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Fox News presented a segment on Monday which criticized President Joe Biden for exercising by riding a bicycle.

Yeah let’s get out tfgs daily schedules

Ps: first episode of west wing “potus in a bicycle accident”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 20, 2021 • 10:40:13am

Fareed’s program yesterday was disturbing. It basically made the claim that Biden was executing Trump’s FP. I know that Biden was opposed to Afghanistan at least since the beginning of the Obama administration, so his troop withdrawal was in line with his long stated views. But I was wondering about the rest of it — and if some of the problem can be that Cruz and Hawley are preventing most of Biden’s FP nominations from seeing the light of day.


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