Billy Talent: “End of Me” (Feat. Rivers Cuomo)

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End Of Me Lyrics

Well I see you walking down a dead end street
Like a black cat following a limousine
A brand new problem every time we meet
But the same old reason that the grass ain’t green
So self-entitled and your talk is cheap
Leave a path of destruction every time you speak
You burned your bridges but I just won’t leave
‘Cause I can’t help caring ‘bout a friend in need
You dragged me down to a hole so deep
I’m crawling out on my hands and knees
I’d stick around but I know it’s gonna be
The end of me
When I see you making all the same mistakes
Try to help, but you throw it back into my face
You quit your job, say your life’s so hard
But you can’t pay for dinner with the victim card
Yeah, as subtle as a wrecking ball
If you stole my keys you would crash my car
Then win the lottery and still complain
We all know somebody that we just can’t change
You dragged me down to a hole so deep
I’m crawling out on my hands and knees
I’d stick around but I know it’s gonna be
The end of me
I wanna get closer to you
But how am I supposed to get through?
Keep putting out fires but the flames get higher
I gotta stop listening to you
I’m gonna get hurt if I do
I’m getting so tired of preaching to the choir
I said goodbye and I wished you well
But you kept draggin’ me back to hell
I’ll stick around but I know it’s gonna be
The end of me
I wanna get closer to you
But how am I supposed to get through?
Keep putting out fires but the flames get higher
I gotta stop listening to you
I’m gonna get hurt if I do
I’m getting so tired of preaching to the choir
You dragged me down to a hole so deep
I’m crawling out on my hands and knees
I’d stick around but I know it’s gonna be
The end of me

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272 comments
1
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:21:28pm

Volcanos are amazing. Beautiful but scary. And loud. No wonder our ancestor worshipped at them and gave them offerings:

One of the locals in La Palma:

Youtube Video

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plansbandc  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:28:28pm

Tried venison, antelope, elk, bear, and pheasant.

I think antelope, elk, and pheasant are delicious and would happily eat them again. I can’t do venison. Not really sure about bear, because I ate bear jerky. It was basic jerky except pretty dry. I would probably try a bear stew or a bear steak.

Dude used to hunt a lot as a young man, but he never liked killing anything. To him, grocery store meat made more sense.

I think “wild” meat makes more sense, because I hate the whole meat industry. I spent 20 years being a veg head, so that might be the reason.

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wrenchwench  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:29:46pm
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ckkatz  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:30:50pm

Okay, I’ll post. There is a form of swing dance called “West Coast Swing”. Before the pandemic there were a lot weekends across the country for ‘westies’. They had competitions at them. Including for teams.

I got talked into joining a local Washington,Dc team. Here is a routine we did to ’21st of September’. Yes, I am in it, without being more specific, mostly in the back row someplace. The lady in the black slacks is the team manager and choreographer, as well as a former national champion in Swing and Country Western dancing and a really nice lady.

Sadly, the entire scene is still mostly shut down due to the pandemic.

DCSX 2014 Teams DC Swing

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:34:13pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:35:28pm

Talk me down from the ledge. The Democrats have a razor thin margin in both the House and Senate, a margin that requires cooperation of both Manchin and Sinema in the Senate. I’ve reached the point in believing that the moderates and the left of the Democratic Party are not going to compromise — that they would rather bring the Biden presidency to an effective end instead of relinquishing any of their demands. Meanwhile the GQP is waiting in the wings to end democracy here forever.

Meanwhile, my psycho Trumpster FB friend posts regarding the racist Texas border police:

What a crock of hooey coming from the lamestream media.
The Texas Mounted Border patrol were using the reigns on the horses to control the direction of the horses.
Anyone who has ever ridden a horse would know that.

I did forbear my urge to suggest “reins”.

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darthstar  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:38:46pm

So I got a facebook ad for a ‘tactical backpack’ with a flip out bullet proof flap and I made a smart-ass comment (as I do) about how anyone insecure enough to buy such an item probably shouldn’t be allowed to carry a firearm as they’d be a danger to themselves and others.

This spawned a flood of replies telling me I’d never been to St. Louis, Chicago, or Baltimore. I replied to those assholes with a simple, “Wow, you really must be afraid of black people.” type remark. Well, they didn’t like that much either and so I said that I lived in a 90% black country as a teen and learned not to be a racist piece of shit 40 years ago. Well, as you can imagine, the conversation went downhill from there with someone citing news reports about mass bombings in Afghanistan. I replied that it must suck for them to live in Afghanistan but the bullet proof pen pocket wasn’t necessary here for going to Sunday school.

God these racist assholes are a waste of oxygen.

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darthstar  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:40:57pm

Merle and Milo are getting along well these days. And it’s a little disturbing at times.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:41:53pm

re: #4 ckkatz

Neat. I’m trying to guess which one is you… probably one of the guys with graying hair, eh?

Never was a fan of WCS, in part because those who like to dance that style do so to any kind of music. I dance to the music. And that is not swing music in that video, though y’all did your best to make it work.

I’ve not been able to dance in a few years, but i guess that the pandemic shut down the social dance venues hard.

And the dance schools.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:44:57pm

re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter

Well — it looks like it was Mayorkas who suggested that the agent might have been using long reins to control the horse. So maybe my psycho friend was actually accurate, though not particularly civil.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:45:18pm

re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter

There’s nothing wrong with a ledge. That’s where the fresh air blows, and the birds come to nest.

Politics is in some great part theater. I have no idea what the various factions of the Democratic will do in the end.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:45:48pm

re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter

Ever since Tooty Frooty Newty and Ass Hole Dole forced us to work from Thanksgiving 1995 thru the first week of January 1996 without a paycheck I’ve kept a Rainy Day Fund in the credit union.

I fully expect Boris Manchin and Natasha Sinema to side with the Republicans to shut the Government down and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them join the GOP in forcing the default to cripple Joe. From what I’m hearing from congressional aides I know this time the GOP will not budge no matter what and they are in this position thanks to Boris and Natasha.

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:54:39pm

re: #12 JOE 🥓

Ever since Tooty Frooty Newty and Ass Hole Dole forced us to work from Thanksgiving 1995 thru the first week of January 1996 without a paycheck I’ve kept a Rainy Day Fund in the credit union.

I fully expect Boris Manchin and Natasha Sinema to side with the Republicans to shut the Government down and I wouldn’t be surprised to see them join the GOP in forcing the default to cripple Joe. From what I’m hearing from congressional aides I know this time the GOP will not budge no matter what and they are in this position thanks to Boris and Natasha.

Manchin and Sinema are helping Mitch get what he wants, which is reconciliation taken off the table for the remainder of the fiscal year (i.e. from now to next October) so that all talk of the reconciliation bill will be scuppered and they can move on to more “bipartisan” bills.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 21, 2021 • 9:55:16pm

Covid-19 death rate more than 4 times higher in least vaccinated states than in most vaccinated

The latest data from the US Department of Health and Human Services shows an average of 39 Covid-19 hospitalizations per 100,000 people in the 10 least vaccinated states, nearly three times higher than the average rate of 14 per 100,000 people in the 10 most vaccinated states.

The states with the lowest vaccination rates have fully vaccinated less than 45% of their residents. They are Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia and Wyoming.

The 10 states with the highest vaccination rates have fully vaccinated more than 62% of their residents. They are Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:00:53pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Manchin and Sinema are helping Mitch get what he wants, which is reconciliation taken off the table for the remainder of the fiscal year (i.e. from now to next October) so that all talk of the reconciliation bill will be scuppered and they can move on to more “bipartisan” bills.

And in return the House Progressive Caucus will vote to kill the skinny infrastructure bill so nothing will come of that.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:01:32pm
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ckkatz  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:07:24pm

re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter

I greatly sympathize with you. Here is how I am trying to handle it. As always ymmv:

1. Through large amounts of trial and error, I have found that pointing out to someone that they are obviously an idiot is usually not well received. And I have also found that it generally requires a massive expenditure in energy for very low positive returns. My most successful approach has been to not waste my time arguing with obvious idiots and trolls.

2. We have selected a set of leadership, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi. They are there for the next year. Personally I find them experienced and thoughtful. I think that they have done a fairly good job in the face of a lot of issues. My view is let them do their job and not obsess over it.

For example, what Manchin and Sinema think is not a mystery to them. Some of the stuff we see is performative. They have to pretend to go down paths that everybody knows are not going to be fruitful in order to make a point and convince a select audience. (Of course, some is not.)

3. For the moment, at least, despite some loud voices from the rwnj’s, America requires that we convince people to support a position rather than just massacring them. Anything that can help convince people of the righteousness of our positions is a good thing.

4. I remember that the internet is international. And many of the trolls on it may not be American citizens or even American residents. And they may have goals other than honest debate of political philosophies. Arguing with them is not likely to change their positions.

5. Practice self-care.

6. There are things that we can control. There are other things we cannot control. I have found that my sanity is better when I focus on what I can control.

As always, just because this works for me doesn’t mean that works for anybody else.

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ckkatz  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:08:49pm

re: #11 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There’s nothing wrong with a ledge. That’s where the fresh air blows, and the birds come to nest.

Politics is in some great part theater. I have no idea what the various factions of the Democratic will do in the end.

Nicely said!

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Targetpractice  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:10:17pm

re: #15 JOE 🥓

And in return the House Progressive Caucus will vote to kill the skinny infrastructure bill so nothing will come of that.

Mitch and Kevin are probably promising that if Manchin and Sinema help them jam that dagger in Chuck’s back, they’ll quietly encourage House Repubs to vote for the infrastructure bill.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:10:20pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

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ckkatz  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:19:09pm

re: #9 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Your point regarding the WCS music is very true. But for me that was a selling point. It allowed me to dance to pop, swing, blues, chacha, rhumba, and just about anything beyond waltz and salsa.

Yes, the dance teachers and studios got hit hard as they lost their only source of income.

A lot tried online. To at least not completely lose the students they worked so hard to recruit.

Locally, a few dances are coming back. Some require pre-registration with proof of vaccination. Those run by people who are not dependent upon the income are, by and large, still closed.

I have decided to remain an anti-social hermit for the time being.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:42:14pm

From CNN

They could make it even longer if they turned their cars 90 degrees. Fuckin’ Texans.

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Cheechako  Sep 21, 2021 • 10:45:48pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Ron

From CNN

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They could make it even longer if they turned their cars 90 degrees. Fuckin’ Texans.

Too hard to see while enjoying the A/C.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 21, 2021 • 11:01:16pm
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A Cranky One  Sep 21, 2021 • 11:02:06pm

Where can we go from here?

soranews24.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 21, 2021 • 11:08:59pm

re: #25 A Cranky One

Where can we go from here?

soranews24.com

I want to try the tomato one. I wonder how it goes with vodka.

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stpaulbear  Sep 21, 2021 • 11:23:11pm

re: #7 darthstar

So I got a facebook ad for a ‘tactical backpack’ with a flip out bullet proof flap and I made a smart-ass comment (as I do) about how anyone insecure enough to buy such an item probably shouldn’t be allowed to carry a firearm as they’d be a danger to themselves and others.

[Embedded content]

This spawned a flood of replies telling me I’d never been to St. Louis, Chicago, or Baltimore. I replied to those assholes with a simple, “Wow, you really must be afraid of black people.” type remark. Well, they didn’t like that much either and so I said that I lived in a 90% black country as a teen and learned not to be a racist piece of shit 40 years ago. Well, as you can imagine, the conversation went downhill from there with someone citing news reports about mass bombings in Afghanistan. I replied that it must suck for them to live in Afghanistan but the bullet proof pen pocket wasn’t necessary here for going to Sunday school.

God these racist assholes are a waste of oxygen.

I won’t click on any product on Amazon with ‘tactical’ in the name or description because I hate the flood of faux-military BS recommendations that follow.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 21, 2021 • 11:30:04pm

re: #27 stpaulbear

I don’t know, I like my tactical hiking stick. Three edged weapons and two blunt force weapons, and a fire starter if you’re willing to fuck up your blade.

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stpaulbear  Sep 21, 2021 • 11:32:54pm

G’nite.

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A Cranky One  Sep 21, 2021 • 11:37:22pm

re: #27 stpaulbear

I won’t click on any product on Amazon with ‘tactical’ in the name or description because I hate the flood of faux-military BS recommendations that follow.

Curious Lurker once posted an Amazon link to some creepy wig stands (mannequin heads) and I was haunted by ads for similar products for weeks.

I really miss her.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 22, 2021 • 12:24:29am

Happy equinox!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 12:50:14am

re: #31 Dread Pirate Ron

Happy equinox!

Equihardknox!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 12:58:21am

re: #27 stpaulbear

I won’t click on any product on Amazon with ‘tactical’ in the name or description because I hate the flood of faux-military BS recommendations that follow.

I want strategic trousers with full nuclear capability…

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Teukka  Sep 22, 2021 • 1:15:47am

*sighs* Do I smell the Reich wing narrative for when the pandemic is over (@PeterSweden7 is a known Reich wing operator in Twitter)? Actually, if I remember correctly, what happened is that Denmark reached a critical point in vaccination coverage, which is why they lifted restrictions (I would’ve personally waited 5-10% more).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 22, 2021 • 1:38:02am
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Nojay UK  Sep 22, 2021 • 2:31:18am

re: #16 teleskiguy

There’s a Japanese manga/anime series called “Cells at Work”. It’s based around the romantic goings-on of a red blood cell and a white blood cell who keep on bumping into each other in an un-named human being’s veins. It’s sweet and funny and biologically accurate, mostly. You’ll find clips from it on Youtube as well as reaction videos from medical specialists.

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steve_davis  Sep 22, 2021 • 3:17:50am

re: #17 ckkatz

I greatly sympathize with you. Here is how I am trying to handle it. As always ymmv:

1. Through large amounts of trial and error, I have found that pointing out to someone that they are obviously an idiot is usually not well received. And I have also found that it generally requires a massive expenditure in energy for very low positive returns. My most successful approach has been to not waste my time arguing with obvious idiots and trolls.

2. We have selected a set of leadership, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi. They are there for the next year. Personally I find them experienced and thoughtful. I think that they have done a fairly good job in the face of a lot of issues. My view is let them do their job and not obsess over it.

For example, what Manchin and Sinema think is not a mystery to them. Some of the stuff we see is performative. They have to pretend to go down paths that everybody knows are not going to be fruitful in order to make a point and convince a select audience. (Of course, some is not.)

3. For the moment, at least, despite some loud voices from the rwnj’s, America requires that we convince people to support a position rather than just massacring them. Anything that can help convince people of the righteousness of our positions is a good thing.

4. I remember that the internet is international. And many of the trolls on it may not be American citizens or even American residents. And they may have goals other than honest debate of political philosophies. Arguing with them is not likely to change their positions.

5. Practice self-care.

6. There are things that we can control. There are other things we cannot control. I have found that my sanity is better when I focus on what I can control.

As always, just because this works for me doesn’t mean that works for anybody else.

the small cautionary voice within me is telling me the midterms aren’t going to go as they are forecast. Yes, Republicans have a decided edge in gerrymandering, but I think Dems actually gain a few seats in the House and make it to 53 in the senate, at which point, they burn the filibuster to the ground and shit gets passed.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2021 • 3:39:10am

The Polk County Sheriff’s FB page is used for some cruel and unusual mockery. Here is their post on the capture of one of our criminal masterminds.

al.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 3:39:10am

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Sarah Vaughan and Billy Eckstine Sing the Best of Irving Berlin - 05 - Cheek To Cheek



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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 3:43:24am

More traffic near the advancing lava than I thought allowed:

Los drones captan el avance imparable de la lava

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:00:59am

re: #2 plansbandc

Tried venison, antelope, elk, bear, and pheasant.

I think antelope, elk, and pheasant are delicious and would happily eat them again. I can’t do venison. Not really sure about bear, because I ate bear jerky. It was basic jerky except pretty dry. I would probably try a bear stew or a bear steak.

Dude used to hunt a lot as a young man, but he never liked killing anything. To him, grocery store meat made more sense.

I think “wild” meat makes more sense, because I hate the whole meat industry. I spent 20 years being a veg head, so that might be the reason.

My brother has been on and off mainly vegetarian* diets. (Currently on since his wife is vegetarian.) Back in the mid-90s when I was hunting he was on vegetarian at that time. He mainly did it for healthy eating, plus not liking the US meat industry practices as well in terms of environmental impact and treatment of animals.

Though if I brought venison up when I visited it was eaten. In part since he essentially knew where the meat had come from, what it had been eating, and roughly how it had been processed.

* - Eggs and cheese still definitely part of that diet. He has chickens for the former and western NY is a pretty good area for getting local cheese of good quality. Half of his current chicken flock (8 hens) are essentially pets now as they’re too old to be good layers and are not very productive. He did say they do server as potential “decoys” for the productive hens if a hawk, fox, or coyote goes after them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:19:57am

Sort of like Noah, but with lava instead of water:

Una casa se salva ‘in extremis’ de ser engullida en La Palma


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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:23:23am

re: #4 ckkatz

Okay, I’ll post. There is a form of swing dance called “West Coast Swing”. Before the pandemic there were a lot weekends across the country for ‘westies’. They had competitions at them. Including for teams.

I got talked into joining a local Washington,Dc team. Here is a routine we did to ’21st of September’. Yes, I am in it, without being more specific, mostly in the back row someplace. The lady in the black slacks is the team manager and choreographer, as well as a former national champion in Swing and Country Western dancing and a really nice lady.

Sadly, the entire scene is still mostly shut down due to the pandemic.

[Embedded content]

Video

whichever you are, i figured you to be taller.
in fact i figured you’d all be taller

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:34:21am

re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter

Talk me down from the ledge. The Democrats have a razor thin margin in both the House and Senate, a margin that requires cooperation of both Manchin and Sinema in the Senate. I’ve reached the point in believing that the moderates and the left of the Democratic Party are not going to compromise — that they would rather bring the Biden presidency to an effective end instead of relinquishing any of their demands. Meanwhile the GQP is waiting in the wings to end democracy here forever.

Meanwhile, my psycho Trumpster FB friend posts regarding the racist Texas border police:

The Texas Mounted Border patrol were using the reigns on the horses to control the direction of the horses.
Anyone who has ever ridden a horse would know that.

I did forbear my urge to suggest “reins”.

using the ends, and with them flailing about?
bullshit on so many levels
anyone who has ever ridden a horse would know that

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:36:06am

re: #16 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

‘a freakin’ bart simpson band-aid’

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:37:18am

re: #2 plansbandc

OI think antelope, elk, and pheasant are delicious and would happily eat them again..

Ever had pheasant the way some Brits do it? Hang it by the next, when it does to the ground, it’s ready to eat. Not my thing, but tastes vary.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:42:26am

re: #34 Teukka

*sighs* Do I smell the Reich wing narrative for when the pandemic is over (@PeterSweden7 is a known Reich wing operator in Twitter)? Actually, if I remember correctly, what happened is that Denmark reached a critical point in vaccination coverage, which is why they lifted restrictions (I would’ve personally waited 5-10% more).

[Embedded content]

correlation <> causation

.

what’s going on is i’ve been snapping my fingers furiously for three days hoping for just such an outcome.

idiot

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:49:46am

re: #27 stpaulbear

I won’t click on any product on Amazon with ‘tactical’ in the name or description because I hate the flood of faux-military BS recommendations that follow.

many months ago someone here posted a comment about a Staber product.
so i googled it of course.

i am still inundated daily with pop up staber ads for commercial grade fire station field equipment drying cabinets

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:52:09am

re: #48 Dangerman

many months ago someone here posted a comment about a Staber product.
so i googled it of course.

i am still inundated daily with pop up staber ads for commercial grade fire station field equipment drying cabinets

My work searches have started bleeding into my YouTube recommendations, so instead of the gaming channels that are 99% of what I watch on YouTube (the other 1% being random stuff linked here at LGF), I get lots of random tech channels that don’t even have content that’s relevant to my work, but they seem to think it is.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 4:56:17am

Here you go, Kentucky, you’ve fucked around, now you find out:

Experts have have shed new light on a variant of COVID-19 discovered in a nursing home in Kentucky, which has infected at least 45 residents and health care staff. The strain has five mutations seen in other variants, plus many unique ones.

Many residents of the Kentucky nursing home were fully vaccinated, but the evolved virus was able to circumvent their anti-body protection.

An investigation by the Kentucky Department of Public Health revealed an unvaccinated, infected staff member initiated the outbreak in early March, resulting in the wave of infections.

An article published on Forbes written by William A. Haseltine, a former Harvard Medical School professor, reported that the new variant—named R.1—was first found in Japan. It has infected more than 10,000 people globally, according to GISAID SARS-CoV-2 database.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:13:14am

Oh, and apparently, Pence following the rule of law and reading the properly and validly cast electoral ballots into the record means we’ve failed as a democracy:

Because elections are only fair if I win. If you win, they don’t count, and that means we get to break the rules.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:20:17am

re: #51 Dopamine Fish

Oh, and apparently, Pence following the rule of law and reading the properly and validly cast electoral ballots into the record means we’ve failed as a democracy:

Because elections are only fair if I win. If you win, they don’t count, and that means we get to break the rules.

And that, in a nutshell, is their plan to retake the Presidency in 2024.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:20:51am

re: #50 Dopamine Fish

Here you go, Kentucky, you’ve fucked around, now you find out:

CDC had an article in their weekly report April 30,2021. R.1 is not a variant of concern.

cdc.gov

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:22:15am

re: #53 BlueSpotinAL

CDC had an article in their weekly report April 30,2021. R.1 is not a variant of concern.

cdc.gov

Seeing the dates, I assumed that, but the incidence rate of the variant is obviously non-zero, and it cropping up in Kentucky is notable considering how ardently anti-science the state has been this year.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:36:03am

Those weren’t whips used on Haitian migrants, they were reins.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:39:09am

re: #55 BlueSpotinAL

Those weren’t whips used on Haitian migrants, they were reins.

It’s not a whip, its a whagazine!

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:46:24am
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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:48:54am

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 5:57:30am

Trump vs Trump…Kind of like Kramer vs Kramer except there’s no real redeeming character anyone gives a shit about.

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:00:06am

Good morning!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:00:41am

re: #59 darthstar

Trump vs Trump…Kind of like Kramer vs Kramer except there’s no real redeeming character anyone gives a shit about.

But if he is not under oath Trump can lie as much as he wants and the only workable punishment is in the court of public opinion and people refusing to do business with him because he lies. (And the media reporting it as what it is, lies, is part of that process.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:13:07am

re: #61 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But if he is not under oath Trump can lie as much as he wants and the only workable punishment is in the court of public opinion and people refusing to do business with him because he lies. (And the media reporting it as what it is, lies, is part of that process.)

The only way to undo Trump is to force him to testify under oath, something he would be unable to do without contradicting himself or other sworn testimony.

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:13:39am

re: #61 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

At the end of the day it’s all just noise. If he wants to not pay his lawyers to sue his niece it’ll just be less money he’ll have to not pay his legal defense team.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:14:31am

re: #63 darthstar

At the end of the day it’s all just noise. If he wants to not pay his lawyers to sue his niece it’ll just be less money he’ll have to not pay his legal defense team.

anybody who works for Trump without demanding payment up front deserves what they (don’t) get…

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:16:33am

re: #55 BlueSpotinAL

Those weren’t whips used on Haitian migrants, they were reins.

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well there is *zero* evidence w/r/t 2020 and ‘election fraud’ and still that’s ‘off and running’

let alone all the asinine and nefarious concocted plots behind wanting everyone to get vaccinated

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No Malarkey!  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:18:13am

Here is a Slate article about the subreddit r/HermanCainAward, which is a lot like sorryantivaxxer.com which I frequent. I have mixed feelings; I know anti-vaxxers, being in Kentucky, and I feel sorry for them because they are being lied to by evil people. But they do deserve mockery in their suffering, because they have embraced a dark ideology which makes them such easy marks. slate.com

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:18:13am

I was a bit disappointed to see the sun go down last night. But here’s my pre-sunrise energy consumption since I’ll be obsessing about this for a few more days yet…

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No Malarkey!  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:27:52am

More child sacrifices to the Tree of Liberty, which is always thirsty for more blood.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:28:47am
Shots were fired at a car carrying Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s principal aide in what a senior official called an assassination attempt.

Assassination attempt on Ukraine president’s top aide

Ominous?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:31:26am

re: #68 No Malarkey!

More child sacrifices to the Tree of Liberty, which is always thirsty for more blood.

First guns, now COVID - why is it the kids are always the ones dying for the sake of liberty? Why can’t these freedom-loving fuckboys be the ones dying to preserve their own freedom?

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:33:26am

re: #66 No Malarkey!

The sites are a sad commentary on how selfish we’ve become in some ways. The common thread among the HCA ‘winners’ is their personal freedom. Their health and the health and safety of those around them, including their own children, is irrelevant in the context of these limited profiles. Maybe a page called Covid-Orphans would convince more people to get vaccinated. Maybe not.

I disagree with Slate that people enjoy reading these. Every one starts with ‘Look at this crazy asshole! Looney-tunes!’ and ends with ‘Aw…a gofundme because they left their family with big ass bills…’ None of their facebook friends are convinced to get the shot. Last time these people crossed their feed they were making a joke about Covid…then they got replaced by other friends posts and before you know it it’s been a month and why hasn’t Sam posted lately?

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:39:54am
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:40:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:41:37am

re: #65 Dangerman

There *is* evidence of them whipping Haitians, at which point, the device used is irrelevant.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:41:52am

If you were wondering if New York restaurants were doing the right thing:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:42:42am

re: #73 Belafon

Germans shocked by killing of cashier after COVID mask row

If this were America, Fox would be digging up dirt on the cashier and implying that she had somehow “provoked” the assailant…

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:45:40am

I figure too many don’t have the ability to take a couple of days off to recover from any vaccine reactions:

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:45:54am

re: #71 darthstar

Okay, went back and finished reading the Slate article. Apparently some people are getting vaccinated after reading the Herman Cain Awards…good for them.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:46:15am

Welcome to the first day of Fall…where Siri is telling me now the high temp in Los Angeles will be 94 today…

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:47:48am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:51:12am

And the latest on the looming shutdown and default according to the Washington Post

Former GOP treasury secretaries tried defusing debt ceiling bomb in private talks with McConnell, Yellen

and they failed.

McConnell is hell bent on shutting down and defaulting with the help of Boris Manchin and Natasha Sinema who will not budge.

Boris and Natasha have made it clear that keeping the filibuster is more important than preventing a financial meltdown.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:51:18am

re: #80 Belafon

what happened to civility?

when did “winning” take precedent over everything else?

when did political or ideological opponents become scum of the earth enemies unworthy of anything, even life itself?

these tendencies were always there, but I am certain that electing a reality tv star to the presidency played a great role in mainstreaming them.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:51:43am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:53:46am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what happened to civility?

when did “winning” take precedent over everything else?

when did political or ideological opponents become scum of the earth enemies unworthy of anything, even life itself?

these tendencies were always there, but I am certain that electing a reality tv star to the presidency played a great role in mainstreaming them.

This is the end result of the Kochs mainstreaming Ayn Rand’s selfishness into every facet of American Society.

Now the REAL American Motto is Look Out for #1 and Fuck Everyone Else While You Lie, Cheat & Steal Your Way To The Top!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:54:20am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what happened to civility?

when did “winning” take precedent over everything else?

when did political or ideological opponents become scum of the earth enemies unworthy of anything, even life itself?

these tendencies were always there, but I am certain that electing a reality tv star to the presidency played a great role in mainstreaming them.

Since when were conservatives civil? The only difference now is we have cell phone cameras and the Internet.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:54:24am
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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:55:40am

Paul O’Neill, Treasury Secretary in GW Bush administration, once compared those who opposed raising the debt limit to “terrorists.”

John Boehner called it “insanity” to hold the debt limit hostage and those who did it “crazies.”

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:55:43am
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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:55:53am

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:56:02am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:57:34am

re: #80 Belafon

When I speak of “worldview collapse” I am referring to the outward, doctrinal aspect of existential crises.

Long have Americans been taken for a ride by charlatans, often behind pulpits.

When the propaganda fails you, you get angry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:57:56am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Since when were conservatives civil? The only difference now is we have cell phone cameras and the Internet.

I don’t recall a time when they weren’t bastards, but I do recall a time when at least some of them were capable of being civil bastards.

I am sure there are still a few who could possibly be civil under the right circumstances, but those circumstances currently do not exist.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:58:12am

re: #86 Belafon

Authoritarian country? Is he referring to Nebraska, when our government stopped reporting data and blamed it on the CDC? That authoritarian government?

We only got our Covid dashbord back a couple days ago because of mass resistance in the state. It’s been down since June 30.

I would like to think that resistance translates to Democratic votes, but we’ll see. It hasn’t been long ago we had Democratic senators and governors.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:58:30am

re: #87 Dangerman

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:59:14am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what happened to civility?

when did “winning” take precedent over everything else?

when did political or ideological opponents become scum of the earth enemies unworthy of anything, even life itself?

these tendencies were always there, but I am certain that electing a reality tv star to the presidency played a great role in mainstreaming them.

The rise of Newt Gingrich in the GOP and the lead-up to the 1994 midterms?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 6:59:52am

re: #90 jaunte

The ultimate hot tub!

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:00:38am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Putting something away for the tentacles of future archaeologists.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:01:21am

“I think he is a fucking loser, and he is going to throw anything against the wall he can,” said Mary Trump of her uncle’s new suit. “It’s desperation…”

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:03:20am

re: #61 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But if he is not under oath Trump can lie as much as he wants and the only workable punishment is in the court of public opinion and people refusing to do business with him because he lies. (And the media reporting it as what it is, lies, is part of that process.)

Just filing this suit reminds everyone he’s a tax cheat

Paging Barbara…

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:04:36am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

anybody who works for Trump without demanding payment up front deserves what they (don’t) get…

Well obviously they’re not too careful as proofreaders

“The brazenness of the defendants’ actions cannot be understated.”

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:05:58am

Ken Paxton is working to see more people that look like men using the women’s restroom, and vice versa. With vigilante enforcement from ignorant busybodies.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:06:01am

re: #67 darthstar

I was a bit disappointed to see the sun go down last night. But here’s my pre-sunrise energy consumption since I’ll be obsessing about this for a few more days yet…

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Oh young Jedi…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:06:26am

For far too long have the late 20th century and early 21st century taking heads, intelligentsia, and inner circles of the well-off “smart” people in this country avoided speaking the truth in public.

Sure, in their private parties they will wag their tongues and put down the masses of Americans who are, frankly, gullible.

When a more combative spirited among the better off actually goes more public with the real problems facing the masses, they become “extremists” or “alarmists” or just “angry”.

Think of Bill Moyers. He spent years warning us about the religious right. But for the most part he was put into a corner on PBS, where only his fans (who are also pretty well educated, if not formally at least they are well read) could find him. Occasionally CBS might have trotted him out for a comment or two.

For far too long the media corporations, who exist to make money, not to tell the truth but to generate revenue, played to the masses who prefer feel-good stories about American and that reified the America-centric, Jesus-ified views of themselves.

America is a Christian nation - so they claim. In part they are correct in that the US has long been the most religious nation among the first world. By far the most religious.

A quarter of the US population believes the world is only a few thousand years old.

So yes, if these people who have believed that Covid-19 was hoax, or it wasn’t that bad and just like a little cold, end up in an ICU dying, they are going to be mad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:07:59am

re: #100 Dangerman

Well obviously they’re not to careful as proofreaders

It indicates that they are using unpaid interns

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:08:04am

re: #103 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A quarter of the US population believes the world is only a few thousand years old.

So yes, if these people who have believed that Covid-19 was hoax, or it wasn’t that bad and just like a little cold, end up in an ICU dying, they are going to be mad.

Ken Paxton is just one example, but it seems they just can’t deal with the world as it is.
The Procrustean Party.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:08:06am

Now I’m worried.

The HVAC company just called, saying the journeyman installer called in sick and can’t come to our house today. They rescheduled for Friday, Monday, and Tuesday.

I told their secretary that’s fine and we wish him well.

That said, in the days of the Republican Plague, that has me wondering if my wife and I were exposed to Covid-19 two days ago. I guess we’ll find out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:09:07am

re: #101 jaunte

Ken Paxton is working to see more people that look like men using the women’s restroom, and vice versa. With vigilante enforcement from ignorant busybodies.

“Vigilante enforcement from ignorant busybodies” should become the new state motto of Texas

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:10:10am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what happened to civility?

when did “winning” take precedent over everything else?

when did political or ideological opponents become scum of the earth enemies unworthy of anything, even life itself?

these tendencies were always there, but I am certain that electing a reality tv star to the presidency played a great role in mainstreaming them.

Long before that
Newt
Actually pre Newt

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:11:03am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Now I’m worried.

The HVAC company just called, saying the journeyman installer called in sick and can’t come to our house today. They rescheduled for Friday, Monday, and Tuesday.

I told their secretary that’s fine and we wish him well.

That said, in the days of the Republican Plague, that has me wondering if my wife and I were exposed to Covid-19 two days ago. I guess we’ll find out.

Because of ragweed being high we’ve got a lot of people with sinus infections.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:11:43am

re: #108 Dangerman

Long before that
Newt
Actually pre Newt

Bush was civil, as was McCain. So was Mitt…

But they are a dead or dying breed.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:12:01am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember HUAC and McCarthy.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:13:59am

re: #89 Dangerman

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And that traitor is getting away with it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:15:29am

re: #111 jaunte

Remember HUAC and McCarthy.

I am just saying that there were some who were still civil.

But basically they were all bastards.

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:17:39am

re: #108 Dangerman

Long before that
Newt
Actually pre Newt

Reagan.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:18:29am

re: #89 Dangerman

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We have an entire political party that has built itself on the idea that if someone doesn’t stop you, it’s your right to do it. The rest of us still think civility is how things should work, and they take advantage of it.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:18:33am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There used to be more cover for the bastards to hide in. Lately they’ve found they can act more like themselves and not lose their gerrymandered power.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:18:54am

re: #109 Belafon

Because of ragweed being high we’ve got a lot of people with sinus infections.

We still have the issue of smoke from both California and our own prairie fires right here.

He seemed fine when he was in our house delivering the equipment to be installed.

Covid-19 can cause a person’s health collapse quite rapidly. The scary part is if someone brought Covid-19 right into my house.

On the other hand, maybe he called in sick because he’s hungover. In that case, Friday should be fine. I guess we’ll see. Hopefully the next call won’t be the contact tracers at Panhandle Public Health.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:19:19am

re: #114 darthstar

Reagan.

Again, a bastard, but civil.

But many of his people were far from civil.

James Watt and David Stockman come to mind right off the bat…

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:19:32am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Authoritarian country? Is he referring to Nebraska, when our government stopped reporting data and blamed it on the CDC? That authoritarian government?

We only got our Covid dashbord back a couple days ago because of mass resistance in the state. It’s been down since June 30.

I would like to think that resistance translates to Democratic votes, but we’ll see. It hasn’t been long ago we had Democratic senators and governors.

He’s definitely referring to Republican leaders here in the US, from Trump on down.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:19:52am

re: #72 Belafon

Naturally. An un-determined but very large percentage of the wealthy; that is, successful grifters, swindlers, and con-artists; assume everyone is as crooked and devious as they are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:20:00am

re: #115 Belafon

We have an entire political party that has built itself on the idea that if someone doesn’t stop you, it’s your right to do it. The rest of us still think civility is how things should work, and they take advantage of it.

That was their plan for 2020 and will be their plan for 2024.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:21:04am

re: #101 jaunte

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Ken Paxton is working to see more people that look like men using the women’s restroom, and vice versa. With vigilante enforcement from ignorant busybodies.

And it will not be long before I-DUH ho either joins in or submits an amicus brief in support of this asinine suit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:21:05am

re: #31 Dread Pirate Ron

Happy equinox!

celebrate responsibly
plan accordingly

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:21:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:22:31am

re: #122 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

And it will not be long before I-DUH ho either joins in or submits an amicus brief in support of this asinine suit.

Our AG submitted a brief in support of taking the votes away from other states. I have no doubt Doug Peterson will do the same here.

After all, it’s not his money.

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:22:49am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reagan set the wheels in motion. Birth of the religious right as an entity happened with him. Repealing the fairness doctrine gave us Rush and Fox News.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:22:56am

principled opponents are welcome when politics is a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently.

because the complicated business of politics is to negotiate agreements between groups with different interests with the object of finding a common way forward.

it became, not even a conflict of interests, but instead an “our team no matter what”, degenerative, brutal struggle for office when one side AND ONLY ONE SIDE with righteous indignation adopted the tactic that only the Dems are and can be capable of behaving despicably while they themselves run roughshod over it all.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:24:39am

re: #111 jaunte

Remember HUAC and McCarthy.

HUAC was bad but I think the point of no return for the GOP was nominating Goldwater, a Civil Rights opponent at the height of Civil Rights era. They don’t get to complain about LBJ saying bigoted shit when you have so much of what defines the GOP after is a backlash to the Democratic Party embracing civil rights at a federal level and that’s why I think Humphrey is the greatest Democrat never to be President.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:24:40am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:25:30am

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:26:33am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:26:55am

re: #130 Eric The Fruit Bat

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:28:07am

re: #127 Dangerman

principled opponents are welcome when politics is a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently.

because the complicated business of politics is to negotiate agreements between groups with different interests with the object of finding a common way forward.

it became, not even a conflict of interests, but instead an “our team no matter what”, degenerative, brutal struggle for office when one side AND ONLY ONE SIDE with righteous indignation adopted the tactic that only the Dems are and can be capable of behaving despicably while they themselves run roughshod over it all.

It’s also seeing yourself as inherently more patriotic and American than your liberal neighbors. Yes conservatives, we love our country too, it’s why we don’t support your policies that weaken us from reaching our full potential through state sanctioned bigotry and economic policies that benefit the established at the expense of those trying to establish.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:29:52am

The thing I love most about how Biden governs is it’s a direct repudiation of Reaganism’s “Blame the government” bullshit that came from a man who was happy to use government authority for his whims.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:30:49am

re: #130 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:32:36am

re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s also seeing yourself as inherently more patriotic and American than your liberal neighbors. Yes conservatives, we love our country too, it’s why we don’t support your policies that weaken us from reaching our full potential through state sanctioned bigotry and economic policies that benefit the established at the expense of those trying to establish.

all different ways of saying the same thing…

I think it was ben franklin who said the only hope for democracy was if people respected each other enough to compromise

You need two principled actors playing fair, acting in good faith
“Democracy depends upon the recognition of the legitimacy of the opposition.”

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:34:06am

2021: Ventana Canyon near Tucson, Arizona

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:34:40am
In an attempt to improve his company’s image, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg authorized a plan to boost pro-Facebook stories on the newsfeeds of its billions of users, the New York Times reports.

“The idea was that pushing pro-Facebook news items — some of them written by the company — would improve its image in the eyes of its users… But the move was sensitive because Facebook had not previously positioned the News Feed as a place where it burnished its own reputation.”

Hell
anyone not think they were cooking the books since the start?

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:35:39am

re: #138 Dangerman

a place where it burnished its own reputation

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:36:12am

re: #136 Dangerman

all different ways of saying the same thing…

I think it was ben franklin who said the only hope for democracy was if people respected each other enough to compromise

You need two principled actors playing fair, acting in good faith
“Democracy depends upon the recognition of the legitimacy of the opposition.”

Yep and you don’t get the recognition of the legitimacy when you refuse to acknowledge your opposition wins. We’ve had so many close elections here on the win and loss sides of things that I expect them. My Congressman won re-election easily yet his opponent still cried fraud.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:49:45am
Bad metrics: Twitter settled a class-action lawsuit for more than $800 million after allegedly misleading investors about its engagement metrics, Variety reported. The metrics had to do with how many accounts, on average, used Twitter each day.

Settled for $800 million. Sounds more like bad lies than bad metrics.

link from a comment by b.d., somewhere

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:50:17am

re: #95 A Three Hour Tour

The rise of Newt Gingrich in the GOP and the lead-up to the 1994 midterms?

Oh If I took you into Mr. Peabody’s WABAC machine we would set the dial back to the 1964 GOP Convention in San Francisco when Goldwater got control of the Party.

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:52:42am

re: #141 wrenchwench

Settled for $800 million. Sounds more like bad lies than bad metrics.

link from a comment by b.d., somewhere

Almost a billion dollars is an acceptable cost apparently.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 22, 2021 • 7:54:42am

re: #16 teleskiguy

Now that right there is perhaps one of the most effective PSAs I’ve ever seen.

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:00:13am

re: #48 Dangerman

Unlock origin

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:06:26am

re: #65 Dangerman

Again, *zero* evidence that any of the border patrol agents had whips much less used them.

— Peter J. Hasson

Right and wrong.

Zero evidence that they had whips.

Plenty of evidence that they whipped people.

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:08:28am

re: #67 darthstar

I was a bit disappointed to see the sun go down last night. But here’s my pre-sunrise energy consumption since I’ll be obsessing about this for a few more days yet…

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Why is your system importing 300w when the battery is 100% full?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:08:36am

re: #146 John Hughes

— Peter J. Hasson

Right and wrong.

Zero evidence that they had whips.

Plenty of evidence that they whipped people.

Correct, but not the point. The American pro-law-enforcement and anti-immigrant people (generally the same thing, but not 100% overlap) are going to use the technical distinction - “used whips” vs. “whipped people” - to dismiss and minimize this incident, saying that because the pro-compassion crowd got one minor fact wrong, their entire point is invalid. It’s how logic works with these people.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:09:36am

I’m back from the general store. I WON THE LOTTO!

Click to Reveal

$20 and two free tickets

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:14:15am

Take A Look At This Mysterious Shape Spotted At Skunk Works’ Helendale Radar Cross Section Facility

A clip posted to TikTok shows a pretty weird shape on a trailer at the Helendale Radar Cross Section Facility.
A pretty intriguing “object” was spotted in a video posted this morning on TikTok by our friend and OSINT researcher Ruben Hofs. A dark colored shape sitting on a trailer as it is moved at a location that was identified as Helendale Radar Cross Section Facility, in the Mojave Desert, not far from Lockheed’s Skunk Works facilities at Plant 42 in Palmdale, California.

This pic shows it on the trailer with some context. It is fairly large.

Nose appears to be at the left. There are no engine outlets or intakes visible. My guess would be a glider re-entry body of some kind, but it might be a new-fangled dumpster for all I actually know.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:15:36am

re: #120 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Poor people can’t afford to get sick in the United States. They don’t have the luxury of engaging in conspiracy theories about diseases..

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:16:02am

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

So they’re working on a new stealth design. That would explain the resurgence in so-called “UFO” activity.

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:16:57am

re: #101 jaunte

Ken Paxton is working to see more people that look like men use the women’s restroom, and vice versa. With vigilante enforcement from ignorant busybodies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:17:31am

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

If it was classified the object would have been covered.

It appears to me to be a test object for radar.

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JC1  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:17:37am

re: #81 JOE 🥓

And the latest on the looming shutdown and default according to the Washington Post

Former GOP treasury secretaries tried defusing debt ceiling bomb in private talks with McConnell, Yellen

and they failed.

McConnell is hell bent on shutting down and defaulting with the help of Boris Manchin and Natasha Sinema who will not budge.

Boris and Natasha have made it clear that keeping the filibuster is more important than preventing a financial meltdown.

Can the debt ceiling be raised via reconciliation? If so, then why even bother playing chicken with the fascists?

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:18:10am

re: #67 darthstar

In a few days you’ll have graphs. Probably be putting them up on a website.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:19:47am

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Take A Look At This Mysterious Shape Spotted At Skunk Works’ Helendale Radar Cross Section Facility

This pic shows it on the trailer with some context. It is fairly large.

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Nose appears to be at the left. There are no engine outlets or intakes visible. My guess would be a glider re-entry body of some kind, but it might be a new-fangled dumpster for all I actually know.

Remember that object the Air Force put in space several years ago no one could identify? Could this be something like that?

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:20:10am

re: #154 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If it was classified the object would have been covered.

It appears to me to be a test object for radar.

Or a decoy object.

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Teukka  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:21:05am

re: #158 Florida Panhandler

Or a decoy object.

That is a possibility. Or a not-to-scale object.

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gwangung  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:21:34am

re: #155 JC1

Can the debt ceiling be raised via reconciliation? If so, then why even bother playing chicken with the fascists?

Then they may not be able to use reconciliation for the big infrastructure bill.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:22:10am

And here we see the Republicans’ end goal, that is, torpedoing the economy so that Democrats look bad and get trashed in the midterms:

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:24:19am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That said, in the days of the Republican Plague, that has me wondering if my wife and I were exposed to Covid-19 two days ago. I guess we’ll find out.

you wore a mask?

He wore a mask while he was around you?

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JC1  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:24:30am

re: #160 gwangung

Then they may not be able to use reconciliation for the big infrastructure bill.

Make it part of the big infra bill. If anything, it would put more pressure on Joe Manchin and Kristen Simena to pass it.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:24:44am

re: #148 Dopamine Fish

Correct, but not the point. The American pro-law-enforcement and anti-immigrant people (generally the same thing, but not 100% overlap) are going to use the technical distinction - “used whips” vs. “whipped people” - to dismiss and minimize this incident, saying that because the pro-compassion crowd got one minor fact wrong, their entire point is invalid. It’s how logic works with these people.

also correct
plus the corollary i was going for is still important

the R’s are champions at getting a lot of things ‘off and running’ with “*zero* evidence

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:24:55am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not likely. The shape in that story appears to be a non-space based airframe.

The US does have an experimental long term reusable spacecraft that has engaged in top secret missions. That’s the X-37.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:24:58am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

re: #159 Teukka

re: #154 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My guess is the Next Generation Air Dominance or NGAD design. Not a secret in the basics like stealth and existence, still in development. Especially as they are expanding the frequency range of the stealth profile. Optionally manned they say. Hm.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:26:20am

re: #152 Dopamine Fish

So they’re working on a new stealth design. That would explain the resurgence in so-called “UFO” activity.

then they’re not doing a very good job at it

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:26:51am

re: #155 JC1

Can the debt ceiling be raised via reconciliation? If so, then why even bother playing chicken with the fascists?

Because they”d burn their one allowed reconciliation bill, and can’t do what they planned/hoped with it.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:27:27am

re: #161 Dopamine Fish

And here we see the Republicans’ end goal, that is, torpedoing the economy so that Democrats look bad and get trashed in the midterms:

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:28:19am

re: #167 Dangerman

then they’re not doing a very good job at it

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:28:27am

re: #155 JC1

Can the debt ceiling be raised via reconciliation? If so, then why even bother playing chicken with the fascists?

link

The blue team cannot suspend the debt ceiling if they do it that way [reconciliation], all they can do is increase the ceiling by some large number. If they do it, then McConnell and his party will weaponize that to the Nth degree next year, arguing that the Democrats’ spending is reckless, and that they have been compelled to dramatically increase the national debt in order to pay for their socialist legislation.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:28:59am

re: #156 John Hughes

In a few days you’ll have graphs. Probably be putting them up on a website.

with links
and an index ;-)

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:31:00am

re: #169 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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JC1  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:31:33am

re: #171 Dangerman

link

The GOP will lie about anything anyway. Like, who didn’t see this coming? IMHO, a debt ceiling increase should have been part of the infra bill.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:31:47am

re: #170 Dopamine Fish

four in this picture too

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:32:42am

re: #175 Dangerman

four in this picture too

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Same 4?

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JC1  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:34:34am

Wall Street, and by extension the super wealthy who have actual influence on Mitch, seem convinced that the debt ceiling will be raised. Stocks are near all time highs.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:36:02am

re: #174 JC1

The GOP will lie about anything anyway. Like, who didn’t see this coming? IMHO, a debt ceiling increase should have been part of the infra bill.

from the same link

Whatever your feelings are about the reconciliation bill, what we’re seeing here—as is so often the case with McConnell—is a staggering amount of dishonesty. First of all, the case that he intends to make is an outright lie—it would be previous spending that prompted the debt ceiling increase, and not future spending. That would include the nearly $8 trillion that was added to the national debt during the Trump years, thanks in no small part to the 2017 Republican tax cut.

McConnell is also conveniently neglecting to mention that the Democrats worked with him three times during the Trump presidency to avoid the debt-ceiling cliff.
…
Their [democrats] version of events is the truthful one—that this has to do with past spending, not future spending

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:36:50am

re: #154 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If it was classified the object would have been covered.

It appears to me to be a test object for radar.

it’s one of tfg’s invisible planes.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:36:54am

re: #177 JC1

Wall Street, and by extension the super wealthy who have actual influence on Mitch, seem convinced that the debt ceiling will be raised. Stocks are near all time highs.

Any forced last-minute deal pushed to the Dems must include McConnell’s resignation.

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:38:20am

re: #145 John Hughes

Aaaaaargh. Ublock origin.

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Teukka  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:38:27am

re: #175 Dangerman

four in this picture too

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:39:58am

re: #148 Dopamine Fish

Magazines and clips.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:41:03am

re: #165 lawhawk

Not likely. The shape in that story appears to be a non-space based airframe.

The US does have an experimental long term reusable spacecraft that has engaged in top secret missions. That’s the X-37.

The left side (nose?) profile resembles the nose of the

Shaped Sonic Boom Demonstration aircraft, a modified F-5E.

The NASA Shaped Sonic Boom Demonstration, also known as the Shaped Sonic Boom Experiment, was a two-year program that used a Northrop F-5E with a modified fuselage to demonstrate that the aircraft’s shock wave, and accompanying sonic boom, can be shaped, and thereby reduced.

It apparently reduced sonic boom by about a third. The program wound up in 2005 and the aircraft is on display at the Valiant Air Command Museum in Florida.

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John Hughes  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:41:35am

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Or just a made up thing to fuck with people’s heads.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:41:42am

re: #182 Teukka

Found Talvisota on TUBI.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:41:59am

re: #174 JC1

The GOP will lie about anything anyway. Like, who didn’t see this coming? IMHO, a debt ceiling increase should have been part of the infra bill.

The parties are playing chicken because the GQP wants to bash Democrats and pretend to be “fiscally responsible” and the Democrats are trying to force them to take responsibility for paying bills Republicans authorized.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:43:59am

Dark Sky forecast for my block:

Possible light rain starting in 11 min., stopping 13 min. later.

Can’t wait to find out!

/!

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No Malarkey!  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:44:11am

re: #177 JC1

Wall Street, and by extension the super wealthy who have actual influence on Mitch, seem convinced that the debt ceiling will be raised. Stocks are near all time highs.

Someday someone could miscalculate, and we will have a financial crisis. I hope it doesn’t happen this year, but it is 2021.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:46:27am

re: #155 JC1

Can the debt ceiling be raised via reconciliation? If so, then why even bother playing chicken with the fascists?

You got to have 50 votes for that. Boris and Natasha are siding with Moscow Mitch.

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JC1  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:50:17am

re: #189 No Malarkey!

Someday someone could miscalculate, and we will have a financial crisis. I hope it doesn’t happen this year, but it is 2021.

Happened in 2011 and lasted about a week. Then the GOP caved even though they controlled the house. If the markets sell off 10%+ in a week, they’ll stop their BS and vote for it. Not worth losing sleep over

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:50:57am

So the solar guy is here to make sure all the breakers are connected and he asks if he can come into the house to check circuits and would he need to wear a mask.
I said, “Are you vaccinated?”
He said, “No.”
I said, “Then you have to wear a mask. And get vaccinated.”
He said, “Can’t do that…still waiting for more information and testing.”
I said, “Well, be sure you don’t win the Herman Cain Award.”
He said, “What’s that?” I’ll let him google it.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:50:59am

re: #191 JC1

Happened in 2011 and lasted about a week. Then the GOP caved even though they controlled the house. If the markets sell off 10%+ in a week, they’ll stop their BS and vote for it. Not worth losing sleep over

I hope you’re right. Senator McConnell is a dangerous adversary, and we have two very unreliable members in our nominal caucus.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:51:29am

re: #191 JC1

Happened in 2011 and lasted about a week. Then the GOP caved even though they controlled the house. If the markets sell off 10%+ in a week, they’ll stop their BS and vote for it. Not worth losing sleep over

Can only hope. However, the GOP of today isn’t the same as it was 10 years ago.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:52:08am

re: #192 darthstar

What “information and testing” is he waiting for? Billions of doses have been administered. The damn things are safer than flying in an airplane, FFS. Crikey, mate, get your head out of your ass before you’re put in the hospital.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:56:01am

re: #193 Dopamine Fish

I hope you’re right. Senator McConnell is a dangerous adversary, and we have two very unreliable members in our nominal caucus.

We really need to increase it in 2022. That’s why I don’t want to hear anyone talk about sitting out. You know how Va abolished the DP? We voted in off year election. This doesn’t have to be 2010 redux where people stay home because Biden like Obama doesn’t solve all the fuck ups in one Congressional session.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:57:21am

re: #193 Dopamine Fish

I hope you’re right. Senator McConnell is a dangerous adversary, and we have two very unreliable members in our nominal caucus.

Boris and Natasha aren’t unreliable. They’re sellouts.

Yesterday, Josh at TPM posted an article that Natasha Sinema is going to leave the Democrats and go Independent.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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A Cranky One  Sep 22, 2021 • 8:58:19am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s one of tfg’s invisible planes.

Nailed it. It’s covered with a tarp so we can’t not see it.

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A Cranky One  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:01:41am

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:01:47am

re: #181 John Hughes

Aaaaaargh. Ublock origin.

ok now i get it ;-)

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:02:41am

It’s still a bit grey outside (morning marine layer) and yet we’re actually pushing juice back to the grid. This puts me in my happy place.

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wrenchwench  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:03:18am

re: #199 A Cranky One

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I wonder how much equipment the cop needs to detect the heartbeat.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:04:09am

re: #187 No Malarkey!

The parties are playing chicken because the GQP wants to bash Democrats and pretend to be “fiscally responsible” and the Democrats are trying to force them to take responsibility for paying bills Republicans authorized.

+1 for concise

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:06:05am

re: #201 darthstar

I noticed that my mini solar panel for my Ring camera had kicked in again this morning and charged the battery - before 6:30 AM. I’m starting to gather that solar tech has gotten quite efficient over the last 15-20 years, since last I looked at it.

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darthstar  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:06:32am

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I loved sonic booms when I was a kid.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:06:47am

re: #130 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:08:09am

re: #205 darthstar

I loved sonic booms when I was a kid.

Saw a B-58 transit Pittsburgh before they were restricted.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:09:03am

re: #199 A Cranky One

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this was tried for real years ago when HOV came to florida

i believe she/they lost

i got pulled over many times driving my bike in the left.

had to carry a printout of the traffic code sections explaining that if federal funds were used to build the lane (they were) then one person on a bike is classified as a HOV.

never got a ticket, but late for work or dinner a few times

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:09:20am

re: #131 Punish Domestic Terrorists

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Three times in the past four years, Nebraska prosecutors have sought death sentences, and each time they have been successful. Within a couple months, two more people convicted of a grisly murder could also be sentenced to death.

But as the state adds to its death row population, the lawyers, judges and prison officials who oversee Nebraska’s system of capital punishment largely ignore the fact that the state has no lethal injection drugs and very likely won’t get any for years, if ever. Those sentenced to death have a better chance of dying of natural causes than being executed.

While the nation remains divided over capital punishment, Nebraska stands out for its peculiar version of the institution: it’s still wedded to the idea of executing prisoners, just not the practical part of doing it. The state is among a handful caught in a law vs. reality netherworld as legislatures and activists wrestle over how the issue will eventually play out.

(more, my bold)

Nebraska death sentences continue despite no execution drugs (May 9, 2021, Associated Press)

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:09:34am

John Eastman didn’t game out his 6 point plan to overrule elections with Kamala Harris in the VP chair…He will regret that…

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:10:58am

re: #201 darthstar

It’s still a bit grey outside (morning marine layer) and yet we’re actually pushing juice back to the grid. This puts me in my happy place.

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i’d love to have a ‘k’ in front of the watts we generate…

enjoy it and it’s ok to be a bit smug (for a while)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:11:29am

re: #208 Dangerman

this was tried for real years ago when HOV came to florida

i believe she/they lost

i got pulled over many times driving my bike in the left.

had to carry a printout of the traffic code sections explaining that if federal funds were used to build the lane (they were) then one person on a bike is classified as a HOV.

never got a ticket, but late for work or dinner a few times

How would that apply to a two-seat car like a Smart? There are motorcycles that weigh more than my car.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:12:42am

I fucking HATE iOS 15. Why did I install this throwback bullshit? Fuck.

Anyone know how to get rid of this calendar dialer? CAN I even get rid of it?

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A Cranky One  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:13:11am

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:13:30am

re: #210 JOE 🥓

John Eastman didn’t game out his 6 point plan to overrule elections with Kamala Harris in the VP chair…He will regret that…

that whole thing is meaningless and they know/knew it

the kabuki theater doesn’t magically make it legit

they could just as well skip it all and simply declare ‘trump won’ with equal validity
(ie none)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:15:06am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:15:43am

re: #162 John Hughes

you wore a mask?

He wore a mask while he was around you?

Yes. Plus most of the time he and his apprentice were either outside or in the attic. We should be okay, but masks are not perfect. We’ll see (I’m holding out for he had a hangover).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:16:37am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

Says the chode holding key FP appointees from getting confirmed. Cruz can go fuck himself with this bullshit. He’s the radical not in touch with the mainstream.

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:17:23am

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How would that apply to a two-seat car like a Smart? There are motorcycles that weigh more than my car.

in florida hybrids, low emission vehicles and electrics are specifically classified hov

if Smarts are “certified and labeled in accordance with federal regulation” then i’d guess yup

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:17:58am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I fucking HATE iOS 15. Why did I install this throwback bullshit? Fuck.

Anyone know how to get rid of this calendar dialer? CAN I even get rid of it?

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android ;-)

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:18:21am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

Rafael - may I call you that? No? Fuck you, Rafael - the minority does not get to control this country. The only reason it was allowed to, back in the 1800’s, is because racist shitheads wanted to keep being racist shitheads - which, I guess, is still true today: Racist shitheads want to continue controlling the legislative agenda, despite being in the extreme minority. I have two words for you: Fuck off. The People WANT this. YOUR people don’t, but nobody cares about them because they’re a dying breed (quite literally, actually, because you’ve programmed them to be too stupid to survive the pandemic).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:20:18am

re: #220 Dangerman

android ;-)

🙁😢😭

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Thanos  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:24:27am

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

My guess would be stealth drone

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:24:33am

So the big MegaMillions jackpot ($432M) was won by someone in NYC.

Specifically, they bought the ticket at a pizzeria on 48th, just off of 6th Ave, just a block from the building with FoxNews and the WSJ.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:24:43am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t know if you can get rid of it but I think you can tap the time (where it says 12:00 in red) and manually key in whatever numbers you want.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:27:31am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know if you can get rid of it but I think you can tap the time (where it says 12:00 in red) and manually key in whatever numbers you want.

Nope. That’s how it used to work. Took three seconds to set up an appointment. Now I have to use TWO spinners, one with 12 options and the other with 60. They fixed this bullshit years ago and just brought it back.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:27:35am

Diamond District winner… maybe some poor slob who works the grind finally will be able to afford some of those diamonds?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:29:14am

re: #224 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the big MegaMillions jackpot ($432M) was won by someone in NYC.

Specifically, they bought the ticket at a pizzeria on 48th, just off of 6th Ave, just a block from the building with FoxNews and the WSJ.

If Fucker Carlson bought that ticket…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:29:21am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:30:36am

re: #221 Dopamine Fish

Rafael - may I call you that? No? Fuck you, Rafael - the minority does not get to control this country. The only reason it was allowed to, back in the 1800’s, is because racist shitheads wanted to keep being racist shitheads - which, I guess, is still true today: Racist shitheads want to continue controlling the legislative agenda, despite being in the extreme minority. I have two words for you: Fuck off. The People WANT this. YOUR people don’t, but nobody cares about them because they’re a dying breed (quite literally, actually, because you’ve programmed them to be too stupid to survive the pandemic).

If only Rafael stayed in Canada and was a thorn in the side of Justin Trudeau…

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:31:28am

re: #226 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Nope. That’s how it used to work. Took three seconds to set up an appointment. Now I have to use TWO spinners, one with 12 options and the other with 60. They fixed this bullshit years ago and just brought it back.

And nothing in Apple Support showing yet…

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:32:19am
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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:34:08am

re: #44 Dangerman

using the ends, and with them flailing about?
bullshit on so many levels
anyone who has ever ridden a horse would know that

I always preferred a bridle with loop reins, over long reins.

The only advantage I know of with long reins is that if you need to get off your horse while out in the pasture, to fix the fence, open and close a gate, take a leak, etc; is that cow horses are trained to stay put if you drop the long reins on the ground below their head.

They may nibble some grass, but will stand there and not wander off until you take the reins in your hand.

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CleverToad  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:35:21am

re: #130 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:35:39am

re: #232 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Let’s be fair to Senator Rafael Cruz: To him, our agenda is quite radical. It involves doing good things for people, and taking care of them, and helping them live a better life - you know, showing compassion. Compassion is an incredibly radical agenda in a world full of self-centered Randian assholes, like the one Rafael Cruz lives in. So, yes, I can understand why he fears us so. With that said, “radical” does not necessarily equate to “bad”, but he’s trying to make it be that way.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:36:47am

My worry is this:

- The GOP will force a default on the debt
- The GOP will blame Biden
- Fox will blame Biden
- NYT will blame Biden
- WaPo will blame Biden
- The Sunday shows will blame Biden

And as a result, despite the recession that might follow, the GOP will successfully manage to pin most of it on Biden and make significant gains in the 2022 midterms.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:38:30am

The morning tropical update.

Disturbance Two, which is the remnants of Tropical Storm Odette are 500 miles northwest of the Azores and moving over warmer waters to the southeast. The system has a 50% chance of redeveloping within five days as it makes a lap around the Atlantic Ocean.

Tropical Storm Peter has been downgraded to a depression north of Puerto Rico. The storm is expected to become a remnant low as it moves northwest then northeast.

Tropical Storm Rose has been downgraded to a depression in the middle of the North Atlantic. It is expected to make a sharp turn to the east in the next couple days and become a remnant low.

Disturbance One, at roughly 32W and 10N, has a 90% chance of becoming a tropical cyclone within forty-eight hours as it moves west-northwest toward the Lesser Antilles.

Five Day Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook

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SerialUpDinger  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:39:22am

re: #226 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I clicked on the hour and got keypad to show up. typed a zero,535 to setup 5:35

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:39:24am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

My worry is this:

- The GOP will force a default on the debt
- The GOP will blame Biden
- Fox will blame Biden
- NYT will blame Biden
- WaPo will blame Biden
- The Sunday shows will blame Biden

And as a result, despite the recession that might follow, the GOP will successfully manage to pin most of it on Biden and make significant gains in the 2022 midterms.

Add

-Hate Radio will blame Biden
-Xtian Pulpit Pimps will blame Biden
-All of the Press Corpse will blame Biden
-Russia will flood Facebook and Twitter with attacks aimed at Biden

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:43:09am

re: #111 jaunte

Remember HUAC and McCarthy.

With Roy Cohn and Robert Kennedy as counsel.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:46:12am

DAMN

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:49:41am

re: #241 JOE 🥓

DAMN

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:55:08am

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How would that apply to a two-seat car like a Smart? There are motorcycles that weigh more than my car.

Last time I checked, most hybrids & EV qualify to use HOV with no passenger in TN.

Dunno about Smart cars.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:56:38am

re: #204 Dopamine Fish

I noticed that my mini solar panel for my Ring camera had kicked in again this morning and charged the battery - before 6:30 AM. I’m starting to gather that solar tech has gotten quite efficient over the last 15-20 years, since last I looked at it.

I would like to get solar panels here, but finding anyone who will come out this far in the middle of nowhere has been fruitless.

The cost of getting someone to do it from Denver would be stupidly expensive.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:59:11am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes. Plus most of the time he and his apprentice were either outside or in the attic. We should be okay, but masks are not perfect. We’ll see (I’m holding out for he had a hangover).

We don’t fuck around.

If one of our 20+ techs can’t make an appointment due to quarantine, we tell the customer our tech is in quarantine for x#-days.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 22, 2021 • 9:59:19am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would like to get solar panels here, but finding anyone who will come out this far in the middle of nowhere has been fruitless.

The cost of getting someone to do it from Denver would be stupidly expensive.

I would do solar here, but we are planning on moving soon-ish and I don’t want to commit to a major upgrade on a house that may not pay for itself by the time we move out. However, I am fully on board with the idea of a solar install at our next house, which we intend to be our last house barring any extenuating circumstances.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:01:03am

re: #219 Dangerman

in florida hybrids, low emission vehicles and electrics are specifically classified hov

if Smarts are “certified and labeled in accordance with federal regulation” then i’d guess yup

I’m not sure where to look for such a label.

We don’t have HOV lanes here anyway. We don’t even have many paved lanes. The nearest ones are in Denver.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:02:20am

re: #226 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Nope. That’s how it used to work. Took three seconds to set up an appointment. Now I have to use TWO spinners, one with 12 options and the other with 60. They fixed this bullshit years ago and just brought it back.

Tells me I need to wait as usual, for the next iteration of iOS 15.X.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:02:27am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would like to get solar panels here, but finding anyone who will come out this far in the middle of nowhere has been fruitless.

The cost of getting someone to do it from Denver would be stupidly expensive.

Panhandle Solar in Lewellen
Quick Electric in Ogallala

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:05:08am

re: #148 Dopamine Fish

Correct, but not the point. The American pro-law-enforcement and anti-immigrant people (generally the same thing, but not 100% overlap) are going to use the technical distinction - “used whips” vs. “whipped people” - to dismiss and minimize this incident, saying that because the pro-compassion crowd got one minor fact wrong, their entire point is invalid. It’s how logic works with these people.

Those are not whips, they’re whagazines!!!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:07:24am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those are not whips, they’re whagazines!!!

They’re a bunch of Cossack bullshit.

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:07:45am

re: #239 JOE 🥓

Add

-Hate Radio will blame Biden
-Xtian Pulpit Pimps will blame Biden
-All of the Press Corpse will blame Biden
-Russia will flood Facebook and Twitter with attacks aimed at Biden

And all of them will be I-told-you-so-ing as they bleat about Hunter Biden’s laptop and BIG TECH CENSORSHIP.

253
Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:09:07am

re: #233 BeenHereAwhile

I always preferred a bridle with loop reins, over long reins.

The only advantage I know of with long reins is that if you need to get off your horse while out in the pasture, to fix the fence, open and close a gate, take a leak, etc; is that cow horses are trained to stay put if you drop the long reins on the ground below their head.

They may nibble some grass, but will stand there and not wander off until you take the reins in your hand.

+1
guess where you neck rein?……at the neck
more than a foot or so longer past your hand is largely unnecessary

these people have seen too many westerns (their ‘research’)
you think they know what leg cues are?

254
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:13:59am

Facebook just recommended someone named Sarah Castle to me as a potential friend.
Nonsense recommendation, of course, but I think she has a really great name.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:18:04am

re: #241 JOE 🥓

DAMN

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:18:43am

It would appear “Centrist Fan Account” (the one with the hippo avatar) has disappeared from Twitter.

257
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:21:55am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s because it’s the Centrism Fan Account. The hippo is now wearing a mask as well.

Glenn Greenwalt with an hour-long “documentary” on Hunter Biden’s E-mails.

258
JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:22:21am

re: #252 The GOP is a terrorist organization

And all of them will be I-told-you-so-ing as they bleat about Hunter Biden’s laptop and BIG TECH CENSORSHIP.

Remember that Gym Neighbors and Hee Hawley have both said that when the Republicans get control of Congress they will subpoena Hunter Biden about everything he does.

259
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:23:24am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It would appear “Centrist Fan Account” (the one with the hippo avatar) has disappeared from Twitter.

this guy?

260
JOE 🥓  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:24:15am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s because it’s the Centrism Fan Account. The hippo is now wearing a mask as well.

Glenn Greenwalt with an hour-long “documentary” on Hunter Biden’s E-mails.

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Let me guess! Goofball included the missing laptop, the Burisma $$$, The art sale and even when Hunter farted in public?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:26:51am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Panhandle Solar in Lewellen
Quick Electric in Ogallala

Huh. Thanks! We’ll wait and see how much this HVAC installation sets us back, and if there’s any money left that hasn’t been surgically removed from our checking account, we’ll give the folks in Llewellen a call (they’re the closest).

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:28:51am

re: #253 Dangerman

+1
guess where you neck rein?……at the neck
more than a foot or so longer past your hand is largely unnecessary

these people have seen too many westerns (their ‘research’)
you think they know what leg cues are?

Watch a push button cutting horse change its leads.

The rider for the most part is holding onto the saddle horn for stability, so not to give the horse a leg miscue. If it’s a good horse, the only time the rider uses the reins is to tell the horse to release the cow.

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:29:27am

re: #233 BeenHereAwhile

I always preferred a bridle with loop reins, over long reins.

The only advantage I know of with long reins is that if you need to get off your horse while out in the pasture, to fix the fence, open and close a gate, take a leak, etc; is that cow horses are trained to stay put if you drop the long reins on the ground below their head.

They may nibble some grass, but will stand there and not wander off until you take the reins in your hand.

or… if you want to tie them to the hitching post.

264
Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:30:10am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

My worry is this:

- The GOP will force a default on the debt
- The GOP will blame Biden
- Fox will blame Biden
- NYT will blame Biden
- WaPo will blame Biden
- The Sunday shows will blame Biden

And as a result, despite the recession that might follow, the GOP will successfully manage to pin most of it on Biden and make significant gains in the 2022 midterms.

Here’s a debt ceiling bill we passed
Zero rs voted for it

Here’s another one
Here are the rs actively blocking it by filibustering

265
Rightwingconspirator  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:30:24am

Must be “infrastructure day” here. Annual heater maintenance and a repair guy under warranty for our shiny new dishwasher. Smh.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:33:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:35:26am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I hope Me And Julio Down By The Schoolyard played as the adventure began.

more like

When The Whip Comes Down (Remastered)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:35:55am

re: #238 SerialUpDinger

I clicked on the hour and got keypad to show up. typed a zero,535 to setup 5:35

How? I can’t find a single setting. You’re in iOS 15?

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:37:04am

re: #130 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Dangerman  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:37:24am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[Embedded content]

Clint Eastwood, the gauntlet
“They hijacked a greyhound???!???”

.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 22, 2021 • 10:41:23am

re: #263 sagehen

or… if you want to tie them to the hitching post.

Unless it’s a horse like Babe, my designated horse. Each sibling had their own horse.

Drop the reins on the ground, and she would stand there and wait. Unfazed by anything.
Tie her up with long reins and she would pull back until she broke the reins or bridle. Didn’t like to load into a trailer either.

If I was going to tie her, I had to slip on a halter over her bridle and use a lead rope.

Thus the preference for loop reins.

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SerialUpDinger  Sep 22, 2021 • 11:41:54am

re: #268 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
IOS15
I added a new event
Gave it a title
selecteds STARTS
Clicked on digits (11) in this case my local time is 11:41
This brought up the keypad
I typed in the start time here


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