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Dangerman  Sep 24, 2021 • 4:54:27pm

Quite a thread
Maricopa got game

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 24, 2021 • 4:56:01pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 24, 2021 • 4:58:36pm

re: #1 Dangerman

The only thing this proves to me is that those “cyber ninjas” do not know anything about elections and how they are run.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:04:16pm

[6:35]
A climate change issue that gets little attention.

Climate Change’s Dirty Little Secret: Sewage

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Dangerman  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:14:53pm

re: #2 Dread Pirate Ron

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Robert Reich: “In those classroom discussions almost fifty years ago, Hillary’s hand was always first in the air. When she was called upon, she gave perfect answers - whole paragraphs, precisely phrased. She distinguished one case from another, using precedents and stare decisis to guide her thinking. I was awed.”

“My hand was in the air about half the time, and when called on, my answers were meh.”

“Clarence’s hand was never in the air. I don’t recall him saying anything, ever.”

“Bill was never in class.”

“Only one of us now sits on the Supreme Court. By all accounts, he and four of his colleagues — all appointed by Republican presidents, three by a president who instigated a coup against the United States — are getting ready to violate stare decisis, judicial precedent. I don’t expect them to give a clear and convincing argument for why. Do you?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:21:11pm
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Dangerman  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:21:25pm

re: #3 PhillyPretzel

The only thing this proves to me is that those “cyber ninjas” do not know anything about elections and how they are run.

We’re gonna need some cyber samurais

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jaunte  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:22:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:32:12pm

Churches (and other groups) affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America are in trouble, as they are not part of the BSA’s bankruptcy settlement over sexual assaults. There are forty thousand churches and other groups which are exposed.

The United Methodist Church has told five thousand congregations they are exposed to sexual assault lawsuits, and advise they not renew charters with the BSA at the end of the year.

Other Protestant denominations are advising their churches to hire legal counsel.

After excluding atheists from the BSA for decades, their child rape organisation is going to take out thousands of churches.

The Mormons put $250 million into a compensation fund to stave off lawsuits, but they can do that because of their highly centralised structure. Most Protestant denominations do not have that, so each church will be on their own.

The BSA is now facing 82,500 sexual abuse lawsuits.

Had Protestant churches taken steps to combat child rape, they wouldn’t be in this position now. They are no different than the Catholic Church on this matter, and as the BSA bankruptcy hangs Protestant churches out to dry, they are going to be in the crosshairs next.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:33:41pm
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boredtechindenver  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:42:30pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

If you use Chrome, would you please go this link, wait a few seconds, and tell me if the embedded tweet appears? If it does, please let me know which version of Chrome you’re using.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:44:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:44:37pm
Gary Cohn, a key architect of former President Trump’s 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, has a new mission.

“We now need to get people back into the workforce and we need to force people in many respects to re-enter the workforce,” Cohn told Yahoo Finance Live.

Cohn said he is worried the current shortage of labor threatens to undermine the ability of American businesses to compete at home and globally. The U.S. Department of Labor’s latest JOLTS report showed there are almost 11 million job openings and roughly 8.4 million unemployed people in the United States.

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finance.yahoo.com

Conservatives inching toward slavery again. Video of Cohn in the link.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:45:10pm

re: #11 boredtechindenver

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Thanks for the info. It’s helpful.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:45:28pm

Back from Disneyland. My feet still hurt. So does my back.

I may have a word or two to say about the new areas, but not tonight.

Here’s a picture. Isn’t it what just about everyone sees when imagining Disneyland?

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Dangerman  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:54:45pm
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boredtechindenver  Sep 24, 2021 • 5:55:03pm

Good thread on Haiti.

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sagehen  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:03:37pm

re: #15 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Back from Disneyland. My feet still hurt. So does my back.

I may have a word or two to say about the new areas, but not tonight.

Here’s a picture. Isn’t it what just about everyone sees when imagining Disneyland?

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How long was the longest line? (when I last saw the Mouse, that meant Matterhorn. That gives you some idea how long ago that was…)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:05:04pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:08:04pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:08:19pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

That was one of the kindest things I have seen in awhile. Thank you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:08:23pm

Numerous studies have shown that Christian women are much less likely to report domestic violence than women of other faiths or none, regardless of the denomination. Their faith is used against them by both the abuser and the church to keep quiet. Church congregations will frequently shun or harass women who do make such reports, because it makes their congregation look bad. That is worse when the abuser is the pastor.

Kent Hovind was just convicted of domestic violence against his girlfriend. He was sentenced to a year in jail (reduced to thirty days because Christian), and thousands of dollars in fines and court costs. He also gets a three-week grace period before he has to report to jail.

Hovind actually recorded the attack, where he threw his girlfriend to the ground and injured her, sending her to the hospital (maybe he was thinking that would help him?)

His girlfriend asserted in a protection order that Hovind sent a goon to her home to threaten her, and said goon came back the next day to trash her property.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:11:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:13:02pm

good luck with that…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:15:38pm

We got about an inch of rain in less than an hour. A lot for us.

I checked one of my favorite loquat trees - it is already in bud! This is very early for it to bloom. The rain should help the flowering, so let’s hope by next April there will be lots of loquats.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:21:26pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

good luck with that…

“Let’s run the government like a business”

“You mean, tightly negotiate contracts and fiduciary responsibility when we distribute taxpayers’ money?”

“No, not like that.”

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:24:48pm

re: #25 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We got about an inch of rain in less than an hour. A lot for us.

I checked one of my favorite loquat trees - it is already in bud! This is very early for it to bloom. The rain should help the flowering, so let’s hope by next April there will be lots of loquats.

I wish we had gotten some of that out here. Too far west I guess.

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jaunte  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:26:18pm

“We might have to admit to having Swiss accounts?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:27:27pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:29:03pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:32:38pm

re: #18 sagehen

How long was the longest line? (when I last saw the Mouse, that meant Matterhorn. That gives you some idea how long ago that was…)

Most lines were in the 5 - 35 minutes range, depending on popularity. The longest were in the 50 - 60 range at peak times. That means rides like radiator springs, splash mountain, smugglers run (one of the new star wars rides). The two headliners were allocated by getting into a e-queue, which you could sign up for at two specific times every day (the queues were usually filled in seconds).

Note that this is one of Disney’s non-peak times. I made the mistake of going once at a peak time, and never again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:35:23pm

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On a side note, Bernstein says he’s using amoxicillin to treat his Covid-19.

Conservatives will do anything to avoid admitting they are wrong. At least amoxicillin won’t kill him like drinking Betadyne or inhaling hydrogen peroxide.

In the video he points out he has no flu-like symptoms (possibly because it’s not the flu), but he is unbearably tired all the time.

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jaunte  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:37:33pm

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Death to terrorists.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:41:38pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On a side note, Bernstein says he’s using amoxicillin to treat his Covid-19.

Conservatives will do anything to avoid admitting they are wrong. At least amoxicillin won’t kill him like drinking Betadyne or inhaling hydrogen peroxide.

In the video he points out he has no flu-like symptoms (possibly because it’s not the flu), but he is unbearably tired all the time.

It appears that a majority of anti-vaxxers do not publicly change their views unless they are at death’s door — and often not even then. Like most who contract the disease, Josh will likely recover and not repent of his anti-vaccine anti-mask propaganda, nor the harm that he continues to do to others by his lies.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:50:14pm

re: #31 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Most lines were in the 5 - 35 minutes range, depending on popularity. The longest were in the 50 - 60 range at peak times. That means rides like radiator springs, splash mountain, smugglers run (one of the new star wars rides). The two headliners were allocated by getting into a e-queue, which you could sign up for at two specific times every day (the queues were usually filled in seconds).

Note that this is one of Disney’s non-peak times. I made the mistake of going once at a peak time, and never again.

Went with grandkids last March to Disney World, one of the character meet places had been converted to an air conditioned place with isolated tables where families could take off masks. Middle grandson (8.5 yrs old) asked when we could go back to that “heaven place”.

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Dangerman  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:51:06pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On a side note, Bernstein says he’s using amoxicillin to treat his Covid-19.

Conservatives will do anything to avoid admitting they are wrong. At least amoxicillin won’t kill him like drinking Betadyne or inhaling hydrogen peroxide.

In the video he points out he has no flu-like symptoms (possibly because it’s not the flu), but he is unbearably tired all the time.

Up to and including dying

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gocart mozart  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:53:29pm

Do you have any siblings?
I got a brother, Blake, he’s four years older than me
And I guess he always will be
Yeah he’s clever and he’s got a cool girlfriend (hey Hayley)
Aw but wait, now that they’re engaged so
I hope they have kids so I can be a cool aunty, yeah
I’m waiting here for you
I’m waiting here for you
What’d you think of the ultimate ending?
I fast forward, get busy pretending that
Ah, I’ve seen everything
Can I get you anything?
A soda? Campari? With lemon? Well, you got it
I got better things to do than shave my legs, my pits, oh yeah
I’m waiting here for you
I’m waiting here for you
I’m looking ‘cross the room and hoping that you’re looking too, yeah
Do you have any siblings?
You got a sister, yeah, she’s a detective
Well I’ll bet she’s got some good stories
I gotta go but I hope we can keep in touch
I like very much being here with you
But you see, all this small talk is killing me, yeah
I’m waiting here for you
I’m waiting here for you
I’m looking ‘cross the room and hoping that you’re looking too

Courtney Barnett - Small Talk - Live Performance | Vevo

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 24, 2021 • 6:53:44pm

re: #37 Dangerman

Up to and including dying

Getting hoisted by your own petard isn’t necesarily a sign of conviction.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:01:34pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Conservatives will do anything to avoid admitting they are wrong.

It’s a well known phenomenon in cults - when proven that what they believe is wrong, most in the cult become more ardent in their beliefs.

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jaunte  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:08:02pm
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austin_blue  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:11:27pm

re: #39 The Ghost of a Flea

Getting hoisted by your own petard isn’t necesarily a sign of conviction.

Unless you’re Rudy, then if you get hoisted on your own petard, it most definitely results in conviction.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:14:04pm

re: #42 austin_blue

Unless you’re Rudy, then if you get hoisted on your own petard, it most definitely results in conviction.

Is he in prison?

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austin_blue  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:14:19pm

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s a well known phenomenon in cults - when proven that what they believe is wrong, most in the cult become more ardent in their beliefs.

And, often, violent. Jim Jones twisted off when a House Member came down to check, on-site, the children of some of his constituents.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:14:54pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

On a side note, Bernstein says he’s using amoxicillin to treat his Covid-19.

Conservatives will do anything to avoid admitting they are wrong. At least amoxicillin won’t kill him like drinking Betadyne or inhaling hydrogen peroxide.

In the video he points out he has no flu-like symptoms (possibly because it’s not the flu), but he is unbearably tired all the time.

After being diagnosed, wife and I were given a packet with a similar antibiotic. The explanation was that the next day’s monoclonal was for the virus, the antibiotic was a 4-day course to head off any opportunistic pneumonia. You really want both if you show positive.

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austin_blue  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:15:47pm

re: #43 The Ghost of a Flea

Is he in prison?

Soon, Inshallah.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:20:31pm

re: #44 austin_blue

And, often, violent. Jim Jones twisted off when a House Member came down to check, on-site, the children of some of his constituents.

The ironic thing is, if Jones and his cult guard had left well enough alone, they probably would’ve gotten away with it. Representative Leo Ryan was prepared to send an “all clear” message back to Washington, taking a few of the disillusioned with him, but otherwise saying that conditions in Jonestown were fine. Instead, Jones succumbed to his paranoia, ordered his fanatics to murder Ryan and his entourage, and the rest, as they say, is history.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:26:54pm

South Dakota is not to be outdone by Texas on anti-abortion laws.

[Note to wingnuts: There is no such thing as an “unborn child.” Children by definition are born.]

Noem directs Unborn Child Advocate to review state’s abortion laws (Rapid City Journal)

Yes, Governor Noem has appointed (at the taxpayer expense) an “unborn child advocate.”

The state’s new “unborn child advocate” Mark Miller, who also serves as general counsel to Gov. Kristi Noem, is reviewing South Dakota’s abortion laws at Noem’s direction. Miller’s task is in response to the Texas law that outlaws most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy.

Noem stated in a tweet that following the Supreme Court’s decision to leave the pro-life Texas law in place she will be directing the Unborn Child Advocate to review the new Texas law and current South Dakota laws to ensure the state has the strongest pro-life laws on the books.

As part of her 2018 campaign, Noem promised to have an unborn child advocate on her staff, according to Ian Fury, Noem’s communications director.

According to open.sd.gov, Miller is paid $143,360 annually to serve as general counsel on Noem’s executive team and as the Unborn Child Advocate.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:27:18pm

To boldly go

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:29:02pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

To boldly go

Feel better if he had Scottie along.

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austin_blue  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:30:49pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Feel better if he had Scottie along.

He’a a *lot* lighter now…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:31:24pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Feel better if he had Scottie along.

Shatner going up on the Space Penis seems somehow appropriate.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:35:41pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

Feel better if he had Scottie along.

James Doohan has been aboard the ISS since 2008

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Decatur Deb  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:36:12pm

re: #53 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Cool.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:37:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:41:11pm

Father abandons twelve children for his conservative faith.

Despite family and friends searching for available options, a father passed after being in the ICU for COVID-19 complications 20 days after testing positive.

A Texas father died while his family searched for a potentially live-saving ECMO machine.

Reed Hickson, a father of 12, contracted COVID-19 a month ago and had been in critical condition in the ICU after two visits to the hospital within 20 days of testing positive.

According to KTBX, the family declined to share Hickson’s vaccination status.

That means he wasn’t vaccinated.

“He stayed stable for a couple of days and then he was starting to steadily decline. We had, I cannot tell you how many people trying to save his life and trying to get an ECMO machine, a hospital that had a bed with one,” she told KTBX.

An ECMO machine is a life-support machine that functions as a person’s heart and lungs.

​​Dr. Andy Wilson, a friend of the Hickson’s, told the outlet that he and the family included Arizona, Nevada, Oklahoma and Florida in their search for the machine.

(more)

Texan Father of 12 Dies From COVID Complications Before His Family Can Acquire Live-Saving ECMO Machine (Inside Edition)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:50:08pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“My little brother Reed was called home last night, leaving behind a legacy of true love and greatness, his family of 12 beautiful children and his magnificent soul mate,” Samuel Hickson, the late Hickson’s brother, said in a Facebook post.

He did not love them. He couldn’t do the minimum necessary, getting a vaccine.

The family wasted no time in putting up a GoFundMe, which has raised half its goal of $100,000.

On a side note, GoFundMe charges a metric fuquetonne more as a cut to run their business than single payer healthcare would cost if the government ran it.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:51:14pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:56:22pm

re: #36 BlueSpotinAL

Went with grandkids last March to Disney World, one of the character meet places had been converted to an air conditioned place with isolated tables where families could take off masks. Middle grandson (8.5 yrs old) asked when we could go back to that “heaven place”.

It can get pretty hot in Anaheim (for two days the temperatures unexpectedly approached 100 degrees), but it’s not as muggy as Florida. Also these days in California, mask wearing is only required indoors. My “heaven place” in Disneyland is the Animation Studio in DCA, where they have excerpts from various Disney animations on huge screens all over the room, all-encompassing air conditioning, and *comfortable couches* to sit on. It’s also not crowded and has very few small children, because it’s not.. you know… exciting.

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jaunte  Sep 24, 2021 • 7:58:35pm

re: #58 Dread Pirate Ron

She’s definitely working herself up to assault someone.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:03:19pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He did not love them. He couldn’t do the minimum necessary, getting a vaccine.

Could you please cut the crap? Or is it too hard for you to understand that these people have been convinced by bad actors that the vaccine, at the least, does not work, and at worst does actual harm?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:03:58pm

re: #58 Dread Pirate Ron

Even if she’s primaried out. There’s someone waiting in the wings to be worse than her just like she was there for Steve King. I’m so sick of people like this being elected to positions of power. It’s all about owning an imaginary political enemy instead of actually governing. Yeah politics is theater but it doesn’t need to be theatric bullshit after theatric bullshit.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:04:46pm

re: #58 Dread Pirate Ron

Marjorie Taylor Green’s chief of staff quits — only hours after her public meltdown on the Capitol steps

Good to know that there are some people who still value the old norms, even on “that side.”

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:06:04pm

re: #60 jaunte

She’s definitely working herself up to assault someone.

It’s going to happen. She will whip out a pistol and shoot someone. Even then the Republicans will still block any more to expel her.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:06:06pm

re: #63 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Good to know that there are some people who still value he old norms, even on “that side.”

It is interesting to see what their limit is but I’m glad there’s a limit for at least some of them.

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ckkatz  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:17:36pm

When I saw that video of mtg trying to steal attention away from Representative Dingell; It looked like just a tick or other parasite trying to ride somebody else for what they need.

It is interesting to see how totally irrelevant mtg is. And how barren and empty her life must be. Beyond another loser like Gaetz, who would want to interact with her? She offers little and seems quite unpleasant to deal with.

I didn’t catch how Rep. Dingell shut mtg down. But it was quite pleasing to see that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:21:07pm

re: #66 ckkatz

When I saw that video of mtg trying to steal attention away from Representative Dingell; It looked like just a tick or other parasite trying to ride somebody else for what they need.

It is interesting to see how totally irrelevant mtg is. And how barren and empty her life must be. Beyond another loser like Gaetz, who would want to interact with her? She offers little and seems quite unpleasant to deal with.

I didn’t catch how Rep. Dingell shut mtg down. But it was quite pleasing to see that.

She’s the heir to Trump tbh. Like what exactly is she in Washington for? What laws does she actually hope to pass? Her whole schtick is being an empty troll who thinks she triggers the libs. It makes the attempts to make the Paul Ryan origin stories of his love for shitty Reagan inspired economics to gut the same programs he benefited from look nice.

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William Lewis  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:22:04pm

re: #61 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Could you please cut the crap? Or is it too hard for you to understand that these people have been convinced by bad actors that the vaccine, at the least, does not work, and at worst does actual harm?

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:26:48pm
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ckkatz  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:30:09pm

re: #67 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

She’s the heir to Trump tbh. Like what exactly is she in Washington for? What laws does she actually hope to pass? Her whole schtick is being an empty troll who thinks she triggers the libs. It makes the attempts to make the Paul Ryan origin stories of his love for shitty Reagan inspired economics to gut the same programs he benefited from look nice.

And despite all the flowery journalistic coverage, Ryan was quickly shown to be an empty suit. And then shown the door.

Btw, I finally met State Senator Boysko during the primary. She was at my polling place representing the challenger to my current state representative. The State Senator is quite impressive and the challenger (Shin) won the primary. I do hope that Senator Boysko didn’t end up with as bad a case of sunburn as it looked like she was going to get, though.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:32:58pm

re: #70 ckkatz

And despite all the flowery journalistic coverage, Ryan was quickly shown to be an empty suit. And then shown the door.

Btw, I finally met State Senator Boysko during the primary. She was at my polling place representing the challenger to my current state representative. The State Senator is quite impressive and the challenger (Shin) won the primary. I do hope that Senator Boysko didn’t end up with as bad a case of sunburn as it looked like she was going to get, though.

Awesome. I’m in Howell’s district now just like I was when I was a kid. I have Connolly in Congress and I’ve met him a few times too.Boysko is good people. She really rose through the ranks starting in my hometown. I believe she was on the PTA at my old high school too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:34:05pm

re: #61 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Could you please cut the crap? Or is it too hard for you to understand that these people have been convinced by bad actors that the vaccine, at the least, does not work, and at worst does actual harm?

When they go out of their way to not only seek out that sort of misinformation, and worse, try to convince others that they should do so too, I view them as a danger to society. They are escalating to killing police officers, attacking healthcare workers and retail workers, &c.

However, since you’ve requested I keep that opinion to myself, I will self-censor and self-tone police.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:35:09pm

Instead, I’ll post things that are not opinionated.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:37:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:40:20pm

I’m going to mosey away. Y’all need a break from me. /s

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:43:29pm

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:44:34pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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They’ve probably had her publicist begging for weeks for Press the Meat to bring her on since nobody gives much of a shit about her since she left The View with her mean-girl pout.

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SerialUpDinger  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:47:23pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I get your sentiment. If you have 12 kids - giving up your life prematurely because you bet on the wrong horse is nothing short of tragic. All those life events where your absence will be noted and all those everyday moments when you had the opportunity to influence your children - gone. Foolish, dangerous and selfish - YES. Does this mean he did not care for his wife and children? Not necessarily. Life is complicated and often too short - making the decision to not get vaccinated was the wrong decision for this person. Unfortunately there are no do-overs. The family’s loss is going to reverberate for years - our gloating over this loss will be forgotten in a week. Shake your head and enjoy the good fortune and sense you had in getting a vaccine.

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ckkatz  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:48:41pm

re: #71 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Awesome. I’m in Howell’s district now just like I was when I was a kid. I have Connolly in Congress and I’ve met him a few times too.Boysko is good people. She really rose through the ranks starting in my hometown. I believe she was on the PTA at my old high school too.

Iirc, when I moved into my house years ago, I was in the 11th district (what is now Connolly’s district). I got gerrymandered into the 10th under Wolf and then Comstock.

Peeved me off when I realized that I had been moved from a Dem district to a Repub one. I was very pleased when Wexton finally made it in.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:48:56pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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If it’s Sunday, It’s Meet The Pre$$titute

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:54:40pm

The fun never ends…

Going exactly as predicted: When the fraudit fails, scream that there’s “evidence” that raises “questions” and we need further fraudits to get to the “truth.” Why? Because the Big Lie is now a matter of faith to the MAGAts and few things set off evangelicals worse than their faith being questioned.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:54:56pm
Researchers at The Ohio State University and the University of California, Irvine have come up with a method for locating a position on Earth using signals broadcast by SpaceX’s Starlink Internet service satellites. Signals from six Starlink satellites were used to identify a location on Earth within 8 meters, suggesting the method could serve as an alternative to GPS. Ohio State’s Zak Kassas said, “We eavesdropped on the signal, and then we designed sophisticated algorithms to pinpoint our location, and we showed that it works with great accuracy. And even though Starlink wasn’t designed for navigation purposes, we showed that it was possible to learn parts of the system well enough to use it for navigation.”

news.osu.edu

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:55:41pm

Dear Press Corpse:

No matter how many times you keep saying Trump doesn’t lead a cult…he fucking DOES lead one and you need to stop kissing his ass!

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:55:53pm

Cross town rival football game. Final score after two over times: Rockwall-Heath 79, Rockwall 71.

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ckkatz  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:57:37pm

It’s an early night to bed for me. G’nite!

Obligatory Dad joke:

Three weeks ago I sent my hearing aid in for repair.
I’ve heard nothing ever since.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 8:59:32pm

re: #83 JOE 🥓

Dear Press Corpse:

No matter how many times you keep saying Trump doesn’t lead a cult…he fucking DOES lead on and you need to stop kissing his ass!

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Deadheads have more respect for themselves than these assholes.

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William Lewis  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:02:54pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Just cut the Mandy Manner’s junior attitude and the passive/aggressive nonsense and we’ll all be fine. You have plenty to offer this place without it.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:03:55pm

Isaac Asimov’s Foundation is on Apple TV, pretty good, pretty good.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:05:02pm

re: #88 Dread Pirate Ron

Isaac Asimov’s Foundation is on Apple TV, pretty good, pretty good.

Huh, I knew there was something I was forgetting today.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:06:55pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Instead, I’ll post things that are not opinionated.

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I’ve been a White Sox fan since the age of 10 and have always been irritated how the North Siders get all the press and fan support, but never really hated them (the way I hated the Yankees!). However, a friend who was a lifelong Cubs fan abandoned them because of the Ricketts family endorsement of Trump. He had a deep hatred of the entire Ricketts family —- we are fortunate that Illinois is a blue state and has spared us a governor Ricketts. Of course, fortunately any Republican governor here is hamstrung by the Democratic legislature.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:07:48pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m going to mosey away. Y’all need a break from me. /s

No — no — stay around!

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:11:45pm

re: #16 Dangerman

Evolution, so damned amazing.

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mmmirele  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:12:45pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Numerous studies have shown that Christian women are much less likely to report domestic violence than women of other faiths or none, regardless of the denomination. Their faith is used against them by both the abuser and the church to keep quiet. Church congregations will frequently shun or harass women who do make such reports, because it makes their congregation look bad. That is worse when the abuser is the pastor.

Kent Hovind was just convicted of domestic violence against his girlfriend. He was sentenced to a year in jail (reduced to thirty days because Christian), and thousands of dollars in fines and court costs. He also gets a three-week grace period before he has to report to jail.

Hovind actually recorded the attack, where he threw his girlfriend to the ground and injured her, sending her to the hospital (maybe he was thinking that would help him?)

His girlfriend asserted in a protection order that Hovind sent a goon to her home to threaten her, and said goon came back the next day to trash her property.

Kent’s consigliere, one Ernie Land, says they’re going to appeal the case and Kent is never going to jail. I don’t know how true that is.

I would note that Kent’s love life is pretty fucked up. He dumped his wife of over 40 years in 2016, after he got out of prison for his tax and structuring crimes. Later in 2017, he married Mary Tocco. Although there was no marriage license, the state of Alabama had common law marriage at the time (ended on December 31, 2017), From a legal perspective, it could be argued that Kent Hovind is still married to Ms. Tocco, as there’s no evidence of a legal divorce.

Mary got the hell out of there when she figured out that there was still shenanigans going on with the funding of Kent’s bargain basement amusement park “Dinosaur Adventure Land.” There may have been some slapping around. What I do know is that Tocco, who lives in South Carolina, showed up to testify at the criminal trial on behalf of Cindi Lincoln.

Speaking of Cindi, she had moved out there from California, sold her property there and was living on the property when Tocco moved out. Not long after that, she got “married” in Florida with a Baptist preacher and no marriage license. (Florida does not have common law marriage.) Earlier this year, after quite a bit of crazy, she had enough too, and the assault case was the result. But she also wants the money back that she says she loaned to Dinosaur Adventure Land, expecting to be paid an annuity. I’m just going to say that the documentation is pretty thin on the ground and she was badly treated by Ernie Land, the consigliere mentioned earlier.

The decision in the criminal case was announced earlier this week. Yesterday (September 24) Kent announced that he’d again gone off to Florida and had an independent Baptist preacher “marry” him to a woman named Sandra Princess Sawyer. It appears that Sawyer has seven children from two previous marriages, and two of the children are still minors.

What a MESS.

PS the guy who trashed Cindi’s house is named Steve Lynn. He was the guy who knew all the tech stuff. He also apparently had a drug induced freakout in August and checked himself into a facility, but he’s back at DAL now. I know WAY too much about Kent Hovind, and I only know it because he’s a prominent sovereign citizen.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:13:42pm
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BeachDem  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:13:57pm

My favorite owning of Meghan McCain, courtesy of Paul Begala. (and she’s only become more idiotic as the years have gone by)

Paul Begala Schools Meghan McCain

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:19:05pm

re: #82 Belafon

I just like to call them “A” Ohio State University.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:20:05pm

re: #95 BeachDem

My favorite owning of Meghan McCain, courtesy of Paul Begala. (and she’s only become more idiotic as the years have gone by)

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Meghan’s a living, breathing example of the Peter Principle.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:20:08pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The application did include a question about who your father is, and very little else.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:21:20pm

re: #98 The Ghost of a Flea

The application did include a question about who your father is, and very little else.

“You’re John McCain’s daughter? One of our most frequent guests? Wow, we gotta have you on as a regular.”

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:24:54pm

Gee I wish I had the bullshitting ability of this Pulpit Pimp!

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:25:58pm

re: #100 JOE 🥓

Talibornagains…

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:27:02pm

re: #101 Egregious Philbin

Talibornagains…

Translation!

“Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:28:45pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

They need someone that can hit that sweet spot of not paraphrasing the 14 words every two paragraphs but also lives at the bottom of an abyss of self-involvement they mistake for ideology.

Paleoconservative blobfish in a blonde wig weeping oleaginous self-pity fluids. A Lovecraftian Karen indifferent to the suffering of mortal people because, by Nyarlahotep, her non-Euclidean jimmies have been rustled and we all deserve what’s coming to us because of it.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:30:58pm

The FreeDUMB Jerks are at it again!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:32:13pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

I sorry, all of the above is tremendously unfair.

It’s probably an enormous toll on Megan to never acknowledge that her husband makes a living cobbling together fascism and polysyllabic words to appease a tiny number of johns with very peculiar tastes. No wonder she’s anxious all the time.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:32:22pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

They need someone that can hit that sweet spot of not paraphrasing the 14 words every two paragraphs but also lives at the bottom of an abyss of self-involvement they mistake for ideology.

Paleoconservative blobfish in a blonde wig weeping oleaginous self-pity fluids. A Lovecraftian Karen indifferent to the suffering of mortal people because, by Nyarlahotep, her non-Euclidean jimmies have been rustled and we all deserve what’s coming to us because of it.

Ayep. She spent virtually the entirety of the past two years passively-aggressively declaring that we all “deserved” Trump for failing to live up to her high standards. She’s one of those internet concern trolls who moans about “THIS IS HOW YOU GOT TRUMP!” given a microphone.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:33:19pm

Arizona, then Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, TexASS and now Washington State.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:34:53pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

Ayep. She spent virtually the entirety of the past two years passively-aggressively declaring that we all “deserved” Trump for failing to live up to her high standards. She’s one of those internet concern trolls who moans about “THIS IS HOW YOU GOT TRUMP!” given a microphone.

To be fair…she then is an accurate representation of the critical “Daddy hits you because he loves you” demographic among white women.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:35:23pm

re: #107 JOE 🥓

Arizona, then Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, TexASS and now Washington State.

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Challenging the vote not just in states that Trump won, but in states that he was never going to even come close. At this point, it’s about flooding the zone, getting as many lawsuits and fraudits in the news to give the impression that there is “doubt” about the results rather than actually showing that there’s anything to their claims.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:36:29pm

Why hasn’t this ass been indicted and arrested?

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:41:50pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more)

finance.yahoo.com

Conservatives inching toward slavery again. Video of Cohn in the link.

FTA:

Cohn says hiring bonuses won’t solve the problem. “We’ve got to start talking about how we motivate people back into the labor force and how do we get them back working again?”

Nine times outta ten, when you hear a wingnut talk about “motivating” people back to work, that translates as “We gotta make them too desperate to say ‘No’ to jobs paying shitty wages.”

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mmmirele  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:41:52pm

re: #100 JOE 🥓

Gee I wish I had the bullshitting ability of this Pulpit Pimp!

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One of my secret powers is that if I shift myself into the right frame of mind, I can do this too. There was a time, when I was MUCH younger (we’re talking the 1970s here), when I actually believed that was a communication from God. Then I went to UT Austin and at the suggestion of a friend, perused the Perry-Castaneda Library and learned that glossolalia was not language.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:48:06pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Challenging the vote not just in states that Trump won, but in states that he was never going to even come close. At this point, it’s about flooding the zone, getting as many lawsuits and fraudits in the news to give the impression that there is “doubt” about the results rather than actually showing that there’s anything to their claims.

As I mentioned a couple weeks ago, I engaged in a FB exchange with someone who mocked me for believing Biden received 81 million votes because he was confident that Biden couldn’t have received more than 70 million votes. My brother also has repeatedly challenged the possibility that someone “campaigning from his basement” could get so much support. They also all believe that “sleepy Joe” is suffering from dementia. There is no doubt that they are kin to those who goose-stepped in the 1930’s and shouted their approval at the original Nuremberg rallies.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:50:36pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Agreed, On one hand, audit after audit raises doubt among the breathless conspiracy-minded GOP. So some say it works. But Biden picking up votes and getting proven the winner (again) makes no impression on them? Well, it sure does on the rest of us. More and more we find out they knew the big lie was a big lie.

The willingness to participate in black lie accusations for ideological reasons explains a lot of COVID weirdness. Ideology gave life to Plandemic. Qanon. All the weird projections. There was plenty of space to have the legit policy debate but it got drowned in a sea of nonsense. COVID as a hoax, only to be acknowledged later but with actual hoax cures. 5G, chips, magnetism, bleach now ivermectin. How messed up is that?!

What we needed and what we got are miles apart. That’s why we may near a million dead before it’s merely endemic. The other thing that we may now be stuck with? An angry quarter of us willing to lie to themslves to screw with us. With fiction.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:50:48pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

As I mentioned a couple weeks ago, I engaged in a FB exchange with someone who mocked me for believing Biden received 81 million votes because he was confident that Biden couldn’t have received more than 70 million votes. My brother also has repeatedly challenged the possibility that someone “campaigning from his basement” could get so much support. They also all believe that “sleepy Joe” is suffering from dementia. There is no doubt that they are kin to those who goose-stepped in the 1930’s and shouted their approval at the original Nuremberg rallies.

They’re the sort of assholes in the same vein as Mike Moore screaming “How could Bush have won?! Nobody I know voted for him!”

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:54:18pm

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

Agreed, On one hand, audit after audit raises doubt among the breathless conspiracy-minded GOP. So some say it works. But Biden picking up votes and getting proven the winner (again) makes no impression on them? Well, it sure does on the rest of us. More and more we find out they knew the big lie was a big lie.

The willingness to participate in black lie accusations for ideological reasons explains a lot of COVID weirdness. Ideology gave life to Plandemic. Qanon. All the weird projections. There was plenty of space to have the legit policy debate but it got drowned in a sea of nonsense. COVID as a hoax, only to be acknowledged later but with actual hoax cures. 5G, chips, magnetism, bleach now ivermectin. How messed up is that?!

What we needed and what we got are miles apart. That’s why we may near a million dead before it’s merely endemic. The other thing that we may now be stuck with? An angry quarter of us willing to lie to themslves to screw with us. With fiction.

Given the results, I imagine that the justification for renewed efforts will be that the AZ fraudit created “questions” because the hand recount differs from the official results from the county. Doesn’t matter that the variation is in Biden’s favor, the fact that the two are not totally identical will be spun as proof of “fraud” in the process and the need for further “investigations.” These are assholes who were looking for bamboo fibers and running UV lights over ballots, the idea that Biden being proclaimed the winner by an even larger (if statistically insignificant) margin would put an end to all this is a naive.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2021 • 9:55:42pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

FTA:

Nine times outta ten, when you hear a wingnut talk about “motivating” people back to work, that translates as “We gotta make them too desperate to say ‘No’ to jobs paying shitty wages.”

Cohn, though, is not a wingnut. He is just your normal everyday avaricious capitalist; you know, Ebenezer Scrooge before he was visited by the ghosts.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:06:30pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:10:32pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:12:06pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

They’re the sort of assholes in the same vein as Mike Moore screaming “How could Bush have won?! Nobody I know voted for him!”

Not really. Because they are true believers in Trump. Mike Moore is not a fanatic who mindlessly worships any person.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:18:07pm

re: #120 Hecuba’s daughter

Not really. Because they are true believers in Trump. Mike Moore is not a fanatic who mindlessly worships any person.

Moore is one of those people that worships themselves, which is why he tends to gravitate towards others of the same mindset. Hence why, in his mind, the fact that nobody he deigns to associate with would own up to voting for Bush meant that the election results had to be wrong.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:24:37pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Challenging the vote not just in states that Trump won, but in states that he was never going to even come close. At this point, it’s about flooding the zone, getting as many lawsuits and fraudits in the news to give the impression that there is “doubt” about the results rather than actually showing that there’s anything to their claims.

They keep this up (I mean the raising questions on elections about which there never was a question), they’re going to turn the electorate — except the hardcore RWNJs — against themselves. In the same way that the antivaxxers have created the national anger against themselves and all the willfully unvaccinated.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:25:57pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good luck with that…

More McConnell bullshit deals. You know he walked away with a good chunk of change from that.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:26:45pm

re: #122 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

They keep this up (I mean the raising questions on elections about which there never was a question), they’re going to turn the electorate — except the hardcore RWNJs — against themselves. In the same way that the antivaxxers have created the national anger against themselves and all the willfully unvaccinated.

They already proved it works in GA when Donny’s screaming about “FRAUD!!!!” kept many of their voters home during the run-offs.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:28:49pm

re: #124 Targetpractice

They already proved it works in GA when Donny’s screaming about “FRAUD!!!!” kept many of their voters home during the run-offs.

Their voters. Not our voters. Which was kind of my point.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:44:04pm

re: #125 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Their voters. Not our voters. Which was kind of my point.

The biggest danger posed to the GQP by continuing to run these fraudits is not that it will turn voters against them, but that it will further demoralize their own voters. We just watched them spend time, money, and energy in AZ just to find out that Biden not only won by he won by more votes than the official results. That’s after months of making all sorts of promises about how, when the “official” report came out, it was gonna blow the lid off the entire plan to put Biden in the WH through fraud.

Their voters waited for months, getting told almost on the daily about how “my friends brother’s cousin’s father’s former roommate who’s part of the audit saw all these votes getting chucked for being fraudulent!,” only to be told that not only is there no sign of massive fraud but that Biden actually gained votes.

They’ve spent too long promising too much that it’s going to blow up massively in their faces next year. Not because “independent” voters might get disgusted with the constant screams of “FRAUD!!!” and vote Dem, but that their own voters will get discouraged that Trump’s not going to be reinstalled as El Presidente for Life and decide there’s no point in showing up at the polls because “the fix is in.”

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sagehen  Sep 24, 2021 • 10:56:23pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

They’re the sort of assholes in the same vein as Mike Moore screaming “How could Bush have won?! Nobody I know voted for him!”

Pauline Kael famously said that about Nixon. (odd, huh? a 1960’s NY Times film critic didn’t know any Nixon voters. Hard to imagine.)

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:04:27pm

The Google doodle is honoring Christopher Reeve.

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Belafon  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:04:50pm

Three months until Christmas.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:07:53pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

It’s fine with me if they don’t show up. Where’s the problem?

On that note, it’s time for me to hobble off to bed.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:07:58pm

LOL, somebody lit a campfire on Sheriff Department property just down the street from me. Police scanners are full of strange calls. People are strange.

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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:10:43pm

I imagine any Repubs brought on the Sunday Funnies will stick to much the same script if asked about the AZ fraudit: “It’s troubling. (Won’t say what they’re troubled by) It raises questions. (Won’t say those either) There needs to be further investigation. (Again, won’t say what it is they should be investigating).” And if pressed to explain how the results don’t show massive “fraud” and actually gave Biden votes compared to the official tally, they’ll blame Maricopa officials for “not cooperating” with the audit and insist that there needs to be an even bigger investigation with the legal power necessary to force “cooperation” like handing over routers and giving them Dominion’s source code for its machines.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:13:44pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:22:29pm

re: #131 Dread Pirate Ron

LOL, somebody lit a campfire on Sheriff Department property just down the street from me. Police scanners are full of strange calls. People are strange.

The Doors - People Are Strange

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JOE 🥓  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:26:32pm

I got the new iPad mini today. Easiest set up ever. Display is sharper and it now plays in stereo in landscape. Got to get used to the new Touch ID son the top along with the volume controls.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 24, 2021 • 11:33:44pm

re: #127 sagehen

Pauline Kael famously said that about Nixon. (odd, huh? a 1960’s NY Times film critic didn’t know any Nixon voters. Hard to imagine.)

Something of a misquote; what Kael actually said was, “I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don’t know. They’re outside my ken. But sometimes when I’m in a theater I can feel them.” It was said during a lecture she gave at the Modern Language Association in December of ‘72.

That misquote went on to become something of an urban legend.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 25, 2021 • 12:25:11am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 25, 2021 • 12:25:25am
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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2021 • 12:56:46am

That Buzzfeed article is fucking rough stuff if you had any hope for our fellow humans in conservative America.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:02:21am

re: #139 teleskiguy

She thought of how police had to remove the man’s family after his son-in-law told her, “If you don’t do this, I have a lot of ways to get people to do something, and they’re all sitting in my gun safe at home.”

[…]

“In a really morbid exercise, just in the month of September, if you look at the ages of the people we have lost and you apply to them average lifespans, we have lost more than 1,100 life years,” Souza said. “Can you imagine that? And for the people who say, ‘We all die sometime.’ Yes, we do. But these people didn’t need to die now. They didn’t need to die like this.

“Can you imagine all the life and experience contained within those 1,100 years?”

[…]

Carvalho, the Boise doctor, said she now compares medical workers to Vietnam War veterans, who saw the public turn against them. “We’re tired of being pointed fingers at, of being called the bad guy, for trying to promote a vaccine that is lifesaving,” ​​Carvalho said. “I know there’s good people out there, but it really does feel like the public is not on our side.”

Even primary care providers who’ve looked after a patient’s family for 20 years are now hearing they are no longer trusted, according to Keller with the Idaho Medical Association. At work, Idaho medical workers face an onslaught of unnecessary death, she said, but outside they’re part of a community of people who act as if the pandemic doesn’t exist. “It’s pretty disheartening,” she said. “I think they feel like they’re living in two different worlds.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:11:38am

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Had Protestant churches taken steps to combat child rape, they wouldn’t be in this position now. They are no different than the Catholic Church on this matter, and as the BSA bankruptcy hangs Protestant churches out to dry, they are going to be in the crosshairs next.

They also consistently banned open homosexuals from participating as counselors…because of “morality” issues.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:13:46am

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“We now need to get people back into the workforce and we need to force people in many respects to re-enter the workforce,” Cohn told Yahoo Finance Live.

why is it that the most vocal proponents of the Free Market do not understand the principle of Supply and Demand?

He is all but admitting that our economic system depends on an endless supply of underpaid laborers with no rights or recourse except to quit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:16:19am

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Radical right-wing commentator Josh Bernstein is very fond of openly declaring that he’ll shoot anyone who tries to vaccinate him.

I believe that any hospital would be justified in denying him treatment as he is a clear security risk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:19:10am

re: #63 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Good to know that there are some people who still value the old norms, even on “that side.”

I don’t know if it was a matter of norms & decency or simply “No amount of money, benefits & perks is worth this fucking job!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:19:38am

re: #64 JOE 🥓

It’s going to happen. She will whip out a pistol and shoot someone. Even then the Republicans will still block any more to expel her.

unless she shoots a pregnant mom

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:25:43am

Morning on La Palma.

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ozharas  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:29:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 1:37:43am

re: #147 ozharas

That would be most unsettling for most Americans. We just had a C-130 pass right overhead on the Rhine, they like to fly along the valley to practice staying under radar.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:03:01am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why is it that the most vocal proponents of the Free Market do not understand the principle of Supply and Demand?

He is all but admitting that our economic system depends on an endless supply of underpaid laborers with no rights or recourse except to quit.

y’know, if a couple used to both make minimum wage, but due to the labor shortages we’ve been hearing about one of them is now making $15/hr or $18/hr, and not trusting daycare to be safe and healthy, and there’s the child tax credit, and saving on the cost of daycare… it totally makes sense that they’d decide to become a one-income family with a stay-home parent. One would think the “family values” crowd would applaud this move.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:05:04am

re: #149 sagehen

y’know, if a couple used to both make minimum wage, but due to the labor shortages we’ve been hearing about one of them is now making $15/hr or $18/hr, and not trusting daycare to be safe and healthy, and there’s the child tax credit, and saving on the cost of daycare… it totally makes sense that they’d decide to become a one-income family with a stay-home parent. One would think the “family values” crowd would applaud this move.

“Family values” is just window dressing: to them labor is just another commodity, and a business expense to be minimized as much as possible.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:07:53am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why is it that the most vocal proponents of the Free Market do not understand the principle of Supply and Demand?

He is all but admitting that our economic system depends on an endless supply of underpaid laborers with no rights or recourse except to quit.

Cohn’s saying in so many words the same stereotype that most such men are pushing: That there are hordes of Americans living on the dole who could, if “encouraged” to leave it tomorrow, solve our “labor shortage” within a matter of weeks or even days.

The reality is that we’re at or below the UE figures for the same time last year, it’s just that most of those who worked in menial labor jobs pre-pandemic used the time and resources afforded through government assistance to look for better jobs or even go into business for themselves. This is proving to a massive issue for a system that is used to turn-key “recoveries,” where businesses just throw open the doors and call the workforce back as though nothing ever happened.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:12:54am

re: #151 Targetpractice

Cohn’s saying in so many words the same stereotype that most such men are pushing: That there are hordes of Americans living on the dole who could, if “encouraged” to leave it tomorrow, solve our “labor shortage” within a matter of weeks or even days.

and that many industries like agriculture, food processing, gardening/landscaping, construction, hospitality, food service and domestic services, etc., are all based on business models that require an endless pool of cheap, easily exploited labor.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:15:57am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Family values” is just window dressing: to them labor is just another commodity, and a business expense to be minimized as much as possible.

IT WAS ALL A LIE.
I feel for Stuart Stevens, I really do. To have the rug pulled out from under him after spending his entire adult life meticulously maintaining that rug, it’s gotta hurt.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:17:40am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that many industries like agriculture, food processing, gardening/landscaping, construction, hospitality, food service and domestic services, etc., are all based on business models that require an endless pool of cheap, easily exploited labor.

Correct. What’s biting them in the ass so hard is that the traditional method of filling those vacancies would be to rely upon the seemingly endless supply of immigrant labor, whether through work visas or through less-than-legal methods. But the Trump years squeezed that down to a trickle and efforts to reform the immigration system to reopen the tap are not only being stymied but also politically hazardous to both parties

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:21:17am

re: #153 sagehen

IT WAS ALL A LIE.
I feel for Stuart Stevens, I really do. To have the rug pulled out from under him after spending his entire adult life meticulously maintaining that rug, it’s gotta hurt.

There is a social component to labor: it should be uplifting in the sense that it allows families to provide a better life for themselves and their children.

But that only gets lip service from the Right Wing in favor of “Personal Freedom” to negotiate as individuals with limited resources for terms of employment, insurance coverge and financial services with multi-million/billion-dollar international corporations.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 25, 2021 • 2:57:57am

cool.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 3:30:05am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a social component to labor: it should be uplifting in the sense that it allows families to provide a better life for themselves and their children.

But that only gets lip service from the Right Wing in favor of “Personal Freedom” to negotiate as individuals with limited resources for terms of employment, insurance coverge and financial services with multi-million/billion-dollar international corporations.

If only there were some way for those individuals to bargain collectively for their own interests.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 25, 2021 • 4:37:34am

Another example of the anti-vaxx Right desperately searching for any treatment option other than the vaccine. Meanwhile, I added another dead pastor and dead politician to my list of dead anti-vaxxers from sorryantivaxxer.com, Pastor David Hill and Irish politician Joe McCarron.

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jeffreyw  Sep 25, 2021 • 5:18:42am

Good morning!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 25, 2021 • 5:24:03am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Family values” is just window dressing: to them labor is just another commodity, and a business expense to be minimized as much as possible.

It’s also essentially shorthand for “male patriarchy” and in many circles “white male patriarchy where the brown people know their place”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 25, 2021 • 5:36:33am

re: #158 No Malarkey!

Another example of the anti-vaxx Right desperately searching for any treatment option other than the vaccine. Meanwhile, I added another dead pastor and dead politician to my list of dead anti-vaxxers from sorryantivaxxer.com, Pastor David Hill and Irish politician Joe McCarron.

These people are bug fuck insane. They should be looked up for their own protection - as well as that of anyone who listens to them.

JFC.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2021 • 5:54:36am

re: #139 teleskiguy

That Buzzfeed article is fucking rough stuff if you had any hope for our fellow humans in conservative America.

She thought of the abuse she’d received from one man’s angry family members, who had berated her for not treating him with ivermectin, a deworming drug falsely promoted as a cure in conspiracy circles but that the FDA has warned against using in COVID patients. She thought of how police had to remove the man’s family after his son-in-law told her, “If you don’t do this, I have a lot of ways to get people to do something, and they’re all sitting in my gun safe at home.”

JFC.

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Ming5000  Sep 25, 2021 • 5:55:37am

re: #159 jeffreyw

What happened next?

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Dangerman  Sep 25, 2021 • 5:59:00am

Would they have invented soap on a rope if it didn’t rhyme?

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2021 • 5:59:23am

re: #163 Ming5000

What happened next?

Cat burped after eating a dog ear while the dog went running thataway?

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Dangerman  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:03:14am

re: #158 No Malarkey!

Another example of the anti-vaxx Right desperately searching for any treatment option other than the vaccine. Meanwhile, I added another dead pastor and dead politician to my list of dead anti-vaxxers from sorryantivaxxer.com, Pastor David Hill and Irish politician Joe McCarron.

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The vaccine has now come to represent surrender and defeat.

Can’t have that

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:04:33am

I get daily CDC messages on FB and pay them no mind since I’m fully vaxxed. But today a single comment appeared and it went: “kiss my pure blood ass.” A couple of clicks revealed pure blood to be a doting mother of two. White, of course. Home location isn’t important, because you can find these people anywhere. Ok, West Virginia.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:08:05am

I wonder how much resentment toward Conservatives these now orphaned kids of antivaxxers will have as they get older?

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Varek Raith  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:14:40am

Hello. How go the things?

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:15:37am

Here is a really good article about the local gentry (also Trump supporters) in America, with some history thrown in, some of which I did not know or forgot. Shiplord Kirel refers to them frequently by this term. Remember the tragedy of the Lake Travis boat parade?

theatlantic.com

Donald Trump grasped this group’s existence and its importance, acting, as he often does, on unthinking but effective instinct. When he crowed about his “beautiful boaters,” lauding the flotillas of supporters trailing MAGA flags from their watercraft in his honor, or addressed his devoted followers among a rioting January 6 crowd that included people who had flown to the event on private jets, he knew what he was doing. Trump was courting the support of the American gentry, the salt-of-the-earth millionaires who see themselves as local leaders in business and politics, the unappreciated backbone of a once-great nation.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:16:37am

re: #166 Dangerman

The vaccine has now come to represent surrender and defeat.

Can’t have that

Let em die.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:17:29am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how much resentment toward Conservatives these now orphaned kids of antivaxxers will have as they get older?

I’ve wondered about that. We know that Fucker Carlson, Streicher Hannity and the rest of the Fox antivaxx crew are vaccinated themselves. It’s a safe bet that Guo and Bannon are as well. We know about Trump. Obnoxious as they are, the mid-level antivaxxers, the ones who aren’t in on the plan, are victims too. They have been callously tricked and manipulated into sacrificing their very lives. The grieving survivors need to identify who is responsible, confront them, and support the civilized world in bringing them to justice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:17:38am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

If only there were some way for those individuals to bargain collectively for their own interests.

But that would be socialism

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:21:42am

re: #160 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It’s also essentially shorthand for “male patriarchy” and in many circles “white male patriarchy where the brown people know their place”.

Exactly. These people should have been proud of a black President: proof that anybody in America, regardless of race or social origin, who works hard enough can make it all the way to the highest office in the land.

But that would have required them to recognize his accomplishments, however grudgingly, and their patriarchal prejudices would just not allow that

Instead we got “Kenyan Usurper Manchurian Candidate Affirmative Action Poster Child Who Bought the Election by Offering Tons of Free Government Stuff”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:29:09am

Want to feel old? Mark Hamill turns 70 today.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:35:43am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Want to feel old? Mark Hamill turns 70 today.

70 is a key watershed. At least for rock-and-rollers, if they die after age 70, it is no longer “tragic”, just “sad”…

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:44:26am

re: #169 Varek Raith

Hello. How go the things?

Morning, friend. It’s a quiet cool day here in the wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:47:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:50:30am

Beautiful autumn day on the Rhine: I always tell visitors to come here in May/June or in September/early October to get the best weather.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:54:17am
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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:55:42am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Beautiful autumn day on the Rhine: I always tell visitors to come here in May/June or in September/early October to get the best weather.

That was certainly true in Bavaria both times I was stationed there. Octoberfest in München was a delight with near perfect weather - great way to spend one’s 20th birthday :D

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:57:39am
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jeffreyw  Sep 25, 2021 • 6:58:36am

re: #163 Ming5000

What happened next?

Gabe likes to try to make it a chase story but the cats prefer the fuck around and find out plot line.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:00:14am
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:25:06am

re: #159 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:26:54am

re: #185 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

What is that? Is that what I call the fluffy plant where the flowers or whatever they are are super soft? Do you know what it’s called?

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:28:34am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:31:57am
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:33:59am

re: #186 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What is that? Is that what I call the fluffy plant where the flowers or whatever they are are super soft? Do you know what it’s called?

It’s something I saw at Disneyland, so I don’t know whether the flowers are soft. I think it’s called celosia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:34:02am

So as I understand, Sidney Powell was never even an official member of the Trump Team, she just showed up and since nobody sent her away, she stuck around and kept working on her own initiative.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:36:47am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So as I understand, Sidney Powell was never even an official member of the Trump Team, she just showed up and since nobody sent her away, she stuck around and kept working on her own initiative.

For legal purposes, that doesn’t matter. Sidney Powell was out there making bogus claims on her own initiative, that means she is just as liable as the official members of the Quacken team. The judge in Michigan saw it that way, and I doubt the judge in the Dominion case is going to disagree.

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John Hughes  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:40:22am

re: #167 Barefoot Grin

Home location isn’t important, because you can find these people anywhere. Ok, West Virginia.

strange, I never ran into any antivax sentiment in West Virginia.

Of course I was there in a video game, not in real life.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:41:02am
For months, my colleagues and I at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats have been tracking insurrectionist sentiments in U.S. adults, most recently in surveys in June. We have found that 47 million American adults - nearly 1 in 5 - agree with the statement that “the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president.” Of those, 21 million also agree that “use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency.”

Our survey found that many of these 21 million people with insurrectionist sentiments have the capacity for violent mobilization. At least 7 million of them already own a gun, and at least 3 million have served in the U.S. military and so have lethal skills. Of those 21 million, 6 million said they supported right-wing militias and extremist groups, and 1 million said they are themselves or personally know a member of such a group, including the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.

21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds (The Conversation)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:41:33am

re: #191 Dopamine Fish

For legal purposes, that doesn’t matter. Sidney Powell was out there making bogus claims on her own initiative, that means she is just as liable as the official members of the Quacken team. The judge in Michigan saw it that way, and I doubt the judge in the Dominion case is going to disagree.

Of course: they had every chance to send her away or distance themselves from her psychoclasmic nutterbuttery but instead acted as if there were some validity to her claims.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:43:36am

re: #193 Punish Domestic Terrorists

21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds (The Conversation)

And although there are many who might shrink from actual violence, there are many more who don’t have a problem with using “extra-legal means” to restore what they consider “Justice” to America…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:50:10am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That would be most unsettling for most Americans. We just had a C-130 pass right overhead on the Rhine, they like to fly along the valley to practice staying under radar.

We have them fly over all the time here. They come from the base over in Ohio and make formation runs over the PA line and back. 2, 3, sometimes 4 at a time flying in formation low and loud. My landlord works at the base. I think they have C-130H birds mostly.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:52:30am

2010: Outer Limits Guy and Blonde Bronson on a stick ‘Bout to get Tased. Undisclosed Location 😎

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:52:57am

re: #193 Punish Domestic Terrorists

21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds (The Conversation)

These aren’t Americans. They’re seditionists and terrorists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:53:52am

re: #196 Eventual Carrion

We have them fly over all the time here. They come from the base over in Ohio and make formation runs over the PA line and back. 2, 3, sometimes 4 at a time flying in formation low and loud. My landlord works at the base. I think they have C-130H birds mostly.

I would be most unsettled by low flights over any built-up urban area, especially one with high-rise buildings of 5 stories or more…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:56:40am

re: #170 BlueSpotinAL

Here is a really good article about the local gentry (also Trump supporters) in America, with some history thrown in, some of which I did not know or forgot. Shiplord Kirel refers to them frequently by this term. Remember the tragedy of the Lake Travis boat parade?

theatlantic.com

Many thanks for posting this excellent article. It is a concise guide to what I believe in the single most overlooked factor in American politics and public life in general. The local gentry is the heart and soul of the Republican Party, and they are everywhere.
Their emphasis on preserving birthright privilege is the root of white supremacy and racism in this country. The gentry themselves are not notably racist in a personal sense but many of them, especially in the south (both geographic and cultural), grasp almost intuitively that white privilege is an ultimate form of birthright privilege. It provides such privilege to millions who otherwise have nothing and conditions them to support other forms of privilege as part of a natural hierarchy. It gives the peasants a stake in the status quo. The pseudo-aristocratic slave holders of the antebellum south could not be a more obvious example.
I’ve commented a number of times that the most fanatical and extreme libertarians often seem to be people who have not done as well as their parents. They are local gentry who feel threatened with immediate loss of privilege. It is no coincidence that a striking percentage of the 1-6 rioters were in trouble over taxes.
Marjorie Taylor Greene could be national poster child for the angry gentry. As the daughter of a wealthy contractor in one of the poorest parts of the country, she almost can’t help being stupid, cruel and arrogant.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:58:33am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

These aren’t Americans. They’re seditionists and terrorists.

The yokel gentry and their brainwashed serfs. Probably tax cheats, snake oil peddlers, and their dupes as well.

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Nojay UK  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:59:04am

re: #196 Eventual Carrion

We have them fly over all the time here.

The Mach Loop in Snowdonia in Wales is a regular flight pattern for all sorts of aircraft. Enthusiasts can get to hilltop locations and take pictures and video of aircraft flying below their line of sight. Lots of Mach Loop videos on Youtube.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 7:59:33am

re: #180 Belafon

Nasal spray: Llama & camel antibodies can be used in a nasal spray to treat coronavirus infection. New peer-reviewed research builds on previous studies that confirm nanobodies—antibody fragments—from llamas,camels & alpacas show promise against SARS2

Llick a llama to own the llibs.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:01:25am

re: #161 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

These people are bug fuck insane. They should be looked up for their own protection - as well as that of anyone who listens to them.

JFC.

I’ve had it with these antivaxxer assholes.

In the immortal words of James Brown, “My patience is at an end, get ready you mother…for the big payback!”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:03:55am

re: #193 Punish Domestic Terrorists

21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds (The Conversation)

That’s a relief. 21 million is way less than the classic Crazification Factor.

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:06:11am

re: #193 Punish Domestic Terrorists

21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds (The Conversation)

And how many are there that:
believe violence would be acceptable to defend the legitimate president Biden?
already own firearms?
and served in the military so have “lethal skills”?

I have a sneaking suspicion that the numbers might surprise a few people the way that the southerners were surprised that them Yankees did, in fact, know how to fight. Sigh. Yet another reason to want an AK/Galil in 5.56 for that best of both worlds kind of thing.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:07:40am

re: #206 William Lewis

…Sigh. Yet another reason to want an AK/Galil in 5.56 for that best of both worlds kind of thing.

You’ll put yer eye out, kid.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:09:33am

re: #193 Punish Domestic Terrorists

21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds (The Conversation)

Including my brainwashed relatives who insist that Pennsylvania was stolen from Trump because their Pulpit Pimping Preachers tell them so.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:12:02am

Well I’d say Jim has Australia down to the proverbial T.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:13:48am

re: #202 Nojay UK

The Mach Loop in Snowdonia in Wales is a regular flight pattern for all sorts of aircraft. Enthusiasts can get to hilltop locations and take pictures and video of aircraft flying below their line of sight. Lots of Mach Loop videos on Youtube.

I recall seeing similar flights near Scafell in NW England

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:14:54am

re: #205 Decatur Deb

That’s a relief. 21 million is way less than the classic Crazification Factor.

again, that is just the extreme fringe ready to use violence. Plenty more are ready to use “extralegal” means to restore “justice”…

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A Cranky One  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:14:58am

Same.

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:15:31am

Damn…Trump wasn’t too thrilled with the results (again) in Arizona…sent out a 55 tweet rant via his proxy…and apparently has a covid party scheduled for today.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:18:53am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, that is just the extreme fringe ready to use violence. Plenty more are ready to use “extralegal” means to restore “justice”…

Why do you think I support liberal Liberal gun ownership?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:19:24am

re: #213 darthstar

Damn…Trump wasn’t too thrilled with the results (again) in Arizona…sent out a 55 tweet rant via his proxy…and apparently has a covid party scheduled for today.

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Why hasn’t Liz Harrington been banned on Twitter?

Why even ask that since we know @jack pitches a tent for his Führer!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:21:15am

yeah, I wouldn’t leave just yet, either.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:21:27am
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Dopamine Fish  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:22:48am

re: #217 JOE 🥓

Actual malice is going to be tough to prove for this one. It’s possible he’s crazy enough to genuinely believe what he’s seen. Otherwise, it’s a statement of fact, provably false, and defamatory.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:23:28am

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:25:16am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

How to assure a whale-watching experience. (Surprised one didn’t snatch him off the deck.)

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:26:14am
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darthstar  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:27:22am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah, I wouldn’t leave just yet, either.

I’m sure they just want to play.

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:27:23am

re: #213 darthstar

Damn…Trump wasn’t too thrilled with the results (again) in Arizona…sent out a 55 tweet rant via his proxy…and apparently has a covid party scheduled for today.

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“…the winning results of the Arizona Forensic Audit…” ???

JFC on a three-wheeled bike: this is pathetic, even by Trump standards.
And what’s worse, there exists a fanbase (of, God help us, *voters*) who will eat this stuff up, and mindlessly cheer on every reality-defying lie this charlatan spouts (see re: #205 Decatur Deb).

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:29:01am

re: #223 Jay C

“…the winning results of the Arizona Forensic Audit…” ???

JFC on a three-wheeled bike: this is pathetic, even by Trump standards.
And what’s worse, there exists a fanbase (of, God help us, *voters*) who will eat this stuff up, and mindlessly cheer on every reality-defying lie this charlatan spouts (see ).

Yes and brainwashed relatives have arrived in Georgia to hear their Führer today posting pictures of the cult members ready to worship Gawd’s Anointed King…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:29:57am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah, I wouldn’t leave just yet, either.

I need to know what happened. That was something!

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:30:42am

re: #215 JOE 🥓

Why hasn’t Liz Harrington been banned on Twitter?

Why even ask that since we know @jack pitches a tent for his Führer!

I’m so much happier now that I no longer check Twitter every day. If a tweet finds its way to me either here or at dKos or facebook, I open it in a private window if I care about the context.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:32:24am

re: #215 JOE 🥓

Why hasn’t Liz Harrington been banned on Twitter?

Why even ask that since we know @jack pitches a tent for his Führer!

I reported it as suspicious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:32:45am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:32:52am

re: #227 Belafon

I reported it as suspicious.

Thank you since @jack banned me from reporting his pals.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:34:15am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah, I wouldn’t leave just yet, either.

That’s exactly why the sea lion jumped in board.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:34:21am

Current mood.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:36:34am

re: #231 Rightwingconspirator

Yes. And he is about to get his ass kicked by all of those indictments. ::: evil grin :::

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:37:11am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Meanwhile Flynn is still on the loose inciting people to kill for him.

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:39:26am

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dat_said  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:40:45am

re: #196 Eventual Carrion

We have them fly over all the time here. They come from the base over in Ohio and make formation runs over the PA line and back. 2, 3, sometimes 4 at a time flying in formation low and loud. My landlord works at the base. I think they have C-130H birds mostly.

There used to be an Air Force radar station north of Bismarck, ND. Place was shut down sometime in the 80’s and now the city has grown so much it’s overtaken the site (43rd St and US83, if youre interested) and there’s no physical evidence of its existence any more. There’s also scant information on the series of tubes about it.

Anyway, there would be multiple “games” every week between them and the pilots from Minot AFB and Ellsworth AFB in SD (and probably some of the other bases in ND and MT). The pilots would fly low and down the Missouri R to avoid detection. There were a few times out fishing with my dad when we’d see them. They’d come around a bend of the river so unexpected and fast and low it was a huge adrenaline rush. I think the pilots enjoyed scaring the crap out of us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:45:28am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:45:58am

re: #209 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Australian hummingbirds….

Reign of Fire all dragon scenes version #2

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:46:30am

re: #206 William Lewis

And how many are there that:
believe violence would be acceptable to defend the legitimate president Biden?
already own firearms?
and served in the military so have “lethal skills”?

I have a sneaking suspicion that the numbers might surprise a few people the way that the southerners were surprised that them Yankees did, in fact, know how to fight. Sigh. Yet another reason to want an AK/Galil in 5.56 for that best of both worlds kind of thing.

Nobody is tracking that, which makes you the left’s secret weapon. Keep it that way.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:47:04am

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:47:32am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He shoukd be charged with inciting violence.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:48:30am

Don’t forget that the little ones need treats too.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:51:46am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah, I wouldn’t leave just yet, either.

Many people would pay real money to be in that boat. Even (especially?) sharing with a seal. Just sit back and enjoy the show.

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A Cranky One  Sep 25, 2021 • 8:53:40am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:01:51am

re: #213 darthstar

“I will be discussing the winning results of the Arizona Forensic Audit, which will show 44,000 possibly illegal ballots cast, tomorrow at the Great State of Georgia rally, which will be packed!” - President Donald J. Trump

This is his reaction to being told that even the Cyber Ninjas could not find anything except more votes for Biden?

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:04:22am

re: #206 William Lewis

And how many are there that:
believe violence would be acceptable to defend the legitimate president Biden?
already own firearms?
and served in the military so have “lethal skills”?

I have a sneaking suspicion that the numbers might surprise a few people the way that the southerners were surprised that them Yankees did, in fact, know how to fight. Sigh. Yet another reason to want an AK/Galil in 5.56 for that best of both worlds kind of thing.

Afraid I’m not convinced. If there is another insurrection, American police will be largely on the side of the insurrectionists. The US military will be at best divided. I very much doubt there are significant numbers of Americans willing to fight angry white people who have the backing of the police.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:05:07am

re: #245 Renaissance_Man

Afraid I’m not convinced. If there is another insurrection, American police will be largely on the side of the insurrectionists. The US military will be at best divided. I very much doubt there are significant numbers of Americans willing to fight angry white people who have the backing of the police.

They are not going to repeat the mistakes they made in 2020/21

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:06:32am

The moment you must wait for the science to catch up. Dammit.
latimes.com
Can you mix and match vaccines?
Not yet.

If you received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, you are currently ineligible for a booster shot, according to the CDC. Because the vaccination mechanics of Johnson & Johnson’s shot are different from Pfizer’s and Moderna’s, the CDC says more research needs to be done before deciding whether it’s safe and effective to mix the two types.

The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health also advises against mixing and matching Pfzier and Moderna, pending more research and guidance from the FDA.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:08:43am

re: #247 Rightwingconspirator

The moment you must wait for the science to catch up. Dammit.
latimes.com
Can you mix and match vaccines?
Not yet.

If you received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, you are currently ineligible for a booster shot, according to the CDC. Because the vaccination mechanics of Johnson & Johnson’s shot are different from Pfizer’s and Moderna’s, the CDC says more research needs to be done before deciding whether it’s safe and effective to mix the two types.

The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health also advises against mixing and matching Pfzier and Moderna, pending more research and guidance from the FDA.

Kaiser just called me. They scheduled me for shot #4 on Tuesday. I had 3 shots initially due to being immunosuppressed by Humira since I have rheumatoid arthritis.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:10:25am

re: #247 Rightwingconspirator

The moment you must wait for the science to catch up. Dammit.
latimes.com
Can you mix and match vaccines?
Not yet.

If you received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, you are currently ineligible for a booster shot, according to the CDC. Because the vaccination mechanics of Johnson & Johnson’s shot are different from Pfizer’s and Moderna’s, the CDC says more research needs to be done before deciding whether it’s safe and effective to mix the two types.

The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health also advises against mixing and matching Pfzier and Moderna, pending more research and guidance from the FDA.

Moderna is not yet cleared for booster use. Wife can get her Pfizer, I can’t yet. Then there is the question of delaying boosters because of breakthrough infection antibodies. Got to find a doctor you can trust on that.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:14:53am

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Moderna is not yet cleared for booster use. Wife can get her Pfizer, I can’t yet.

On the plus side, if the information in the last MedCram video holds up, the Moderna vaccine is proving more effective against the current mix of variants.

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Nojay UK  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:15:42am

re: #247 Rightwingconspirator

The moment you must wait for the science to catch up. Dammit.
latimes.com

If you received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, you are currently ineligible for a booster shot, according to the CDC. Because the vaccination mechanics of Johnson & Johnson’s shot are different from Pfizer’s and Moderna’s, the CDC says more research needs to be done before deciding whether it’s safe and effective to mix the two types.

There’s a booster trial going on in the UK at the moment that’s fully double-blinded (half the trial participants are getting a BCG vaccine) but it’s also trying cross-vaccination options for the booster shot as well as half-dose formulations. A lot of people in the UK got the AstraZeneca adenovirus vaccine during the rollout in the late winter but the booster shots are likely to be Pfizer for various reasons (Moderna is also approved in the UK but a lot fewer doses have been ordered by the government). Preliminary findings from this booster trial should be out soon.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:20:03am

re: #250 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

On the plus side, if the information in the last MedCram video holds up, the Moderna vaccine is proving more effective against the current mix of variants.

We’re just about to declare ourselve cleared from the mild cases. We’re assuming our immune systems are about as strong as they can get, but will be talking to our GP on Monday.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:25:14am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

Don’t forget that the little ones need treats too.

You keep that as a pet??

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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:27:14am

Really good Atlantic article on the second winter of this thing:

Six Rules That Will Define Our Second Pandemic Winter

theatlantic.com

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ckkatz  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:39:27am

re: #241 Dave In Austin

During annual training one year, the Battalion Supply Sergeant set up his tent/office in a field of tall grass. There was golden orb spider on a plant right outside the tent entrance. The sergeant, being extremely bored, adopted it as his pet for the rest of the exercise. Whenever anyone was around, he would feed it and call it his pet. That the sergeant was fairly short and very thin added to his image. And some of the looks he got from passerby were priceless.

This was the same exercise when the Battery First Sergeant said that he was tired of getting eaten alive by mosquitos, ticks and chiggers. So he started eating cloves of garlic. I do not know if it stopped the bugs. But we certainly knew where he was by the scent of the garlic.

My section chief kept with the smoking of Parodies and other cheap cigars. Don’t know if that kept the bugs away. But it did so for us.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2021 • 9:46:37am

re: #222 darthstar

I’m sure they just want to play.

didn’t their mother teach them not to play with their food?

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:03:51am

re: #1 Dangerman

Indeed they do.

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mmmirele  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:07:09am

re: #151 Targetpractice

Cohn’s saying in so many words the same stereotype that most such men are pushing: That there are hordes of Americans living on the dole who could, if “encouraged” to leave it tomorrow, solve our “labor shortage” within a matter of weeks or even days.

The reality is that we’re at or below the UE figures for the same time last year, it’s just that most of those who worked in menial labor jobs pre-pandemic used the time and resources afforded through government assistance to look for better jobs or even go into business for themselves. This is proving to a massive issue for a system that is used to turn-key “recoveries,” where businesses just throw open the doors and call the workforce back as though nothing ever happened.

People are tired of working shit jobs that not just have awful working conditions and terrible pay and benefits, but also have a strong likelihood of leaving you sick or dead. These ivory tower economists need to understand the pandemic has brought a sea change in the way people think about their jobs. People are not about to DIE for some capitalists in Hudson Yards (and why yes, I use that deliberately) just because the capitalists think the best thing to happen is for everyone to go back to work and to hell with the consequences.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:19:34am

re: #258 mmmirele

People are tired of working shit jobs that not just have awful working conditions and terrible pay and benefits, but also have a strong likelihood of leaving you sick or dead. These ivory tower economists need to understand the pandemic has brought a sea change in the way people think about their jobs. People are not about to DIE for some capitalists in Hudson Yards (and why yes, I use that deliberately) just because the capitalists think the best thing to happen is for everyone to go back to work and to hell with the consequences.

That’s what led to my permanently severing all contact (ok — contact was just on FB these days) with an acquaintance I’ve known for over 50 years. He mocked me last summer for being concerned about those forced to work in unsafe conditions at meat packing plants and public facing service jobs. They really do feel that the poor should sacrifice their lives for the capitalist comfort.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:22:53am

re: #259 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes they do.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:30:49am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But that would be socialism

Power to the people, right on.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:33:24am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:34:13am

re: #180 Belafon

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Cool. Now the dewormer crowd can torment llamas until they spit on them.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:34:53am

re: #258 mmmirele

People are tired of working shit jobs that not just have awful working conditions and terrible pay and benefits, but also have a strong likelihood of leaving you sick or dead. These ivory tower economists need to understand the pandemic has brought a sea change in the way people think about their jobs. People are not about to DIE for some capitalists in Hudson Yards (and why yes, I use that deliberately) just because the capitalists think the best thing to happen is for everyone to go back to work and to hell with the consequences.

The Hudson Yards “Vessel” sculpture is closed; because there’s been 4 suicides in less than two years from jumping off it.

Other than that… it’s a pretty swank development. The apartments, restaurants, retail outlets are all seriously upscale.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:38:45am

Oh dear!

Texas Longhorns (2-1) leading the Texas Tech Red Rioters (3-0) 42-14 AT THE HALF.

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Dangerman  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:52:09am

re: #193 Punish Domestic Terrorists

21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence, survey finds (The Conversation)

If I read it correctly
They’re extrapolating from a poll of 1,070 people

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2021 • 10:53:14am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would be most unsettled by low flights over any built-up urban area, especially one with high-rise buildings of 5 stories or more…

Definitely. Nothing but farm land out here. Would take out mostly corn and soy plants. :-)

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darthstar  Sep 25, 2021 • 11:40:31am

re: #266 Dangerman

If I read it correctly
They’re extrapolating from a poll of 1,070 people

So 70 people or so.


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