A Lawrence Mini-Concert Live at WGBH Boston

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I know I’ve been posting their videos a lot lately, but it’s only because they’re so damned amazing. And when a band can do these complex songs live like this, and sound as good or better than the recorded versions, you know you’re seeing the real thing.

Lawrence is a New York City-based soul-pop group founded by siblings Clyde Lawrence and Gracie Lawrence who have been singing, performing, and writing songs together since early childhood. The eight-piece ensemble stopped by our Fraser Performance Studio on a recent Boston tour date.

Set list:
More 0:01
Casualty 4:06
Make A Move 7:12
The Heartburn Song 13:39

More about Lawrence: http://lawrencetheband.com/

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Video Credits:
Joel Watts – Audio Recording & Mix
Stacy Buchanan – Producer
Tim Haas – Camera
Tristan Gowen – Camera
Greg Shea – Director/Camera/Editor
Meghan Smith – Slider
Nolan Yee – Camera

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292 comments
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:41:43pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:42:53pm

From downstairs, some insufferable twat reviews his own book about Robert E. Lee and the NY Times publishes it (the review).

re: #110 jaunte

“Unflinching.”
Why would a writer flinch at a dead traitor?

This guy writes:

There are some biographies that are almost impossible to write, but write them we must.

WHY? WHY MUST YOU? YOU DON’T MUST. JUST FUCK OFF. YOU MUST FUCK OFF NOW.

I really hope that he & his book get the same treatment as that other writer who published a biography of Philip Roth, another famous asshole.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:47:13pm

re: #2 The Pie Overlord!

From downstairs, some insufferable twat reviews his own book about Robert E. Lee and the NY Times publishes it (the review).

re: #110 jaunte

This guy writes:

WHY? WHY MUST YOU? YOU DON’T MUST. JUST FUCK OFF. YOU MUST FUCK OFF NOW.

I really hope that he & his book get the same treatment as that other writer who published a biography of Philip Roth, another famous asshole.

RE LEE was more than an asshole. He was a traitor.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:49:05pm
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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:50:45pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:53:18pm

re: #5 jaunte

That sign has hit the nail on the head.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:54:16pm

Lawrence is Good!

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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2021 • 5:56:54pm

Greets and saluts… was at a party this weekend and there were a bunch of babies in attendance with their parents, and this was the reaction every time they needed to put their kid down for sleep.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:01:09pm

Eric sure is right about the Times endlessly kissing Republican ass!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:04:33pm
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lawhawk  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:06:30pm

Oh… my.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:07:16pm

re: #11 lawhawk

Navarro with the chancla doble.

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Jay C  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:09:15pm

re: #11 lawhawk

Oh My! Indeed.

Can it be a “double homicide” if there’s only one victim?

Because Ana has certainly managed it….
💀💀

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A Cranky One  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:09:44pm

re: #11 lawhawk

So jr is ANTIFAT!!!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:10:16pm

Ok Natasha Sinema!

Arizona Democrats went all in and demand you act like a Democrat and stop your shit!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:11:26pm

Call Boris and Natasha. But do be nice about it!

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JOE 🥓  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:19:27pm

Why are progressives always the ones who have to compromise —and not Joe Manchin?

why do progressives always have to compromise

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:26:36pm

LOL. Let’s play Connect The Dots.

14 Mexican soldiers briefly detained in El Paso
Though most of the soldiers were processed uneventfully, one was issued a civil penalty for having a personal-use amount of marijuana with him, according to Reuters.

All the soldiers and their belongings were reportedly returned to Mexico before 5 a.m. on Saturday morning.

thehill.com

They got high and lost. ROFL

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:26:48pm

The Tony’s tonight… I like the new format. All the awards and speeches was in the on-line streaming show, and now the broadcast portion is just musical performances (starting with a Leslie Odom Jr welcome back to bway number)..Only 25 minutes in, and already we’ve seen David Byrne (American Utopia), Moulin Rouge, and now it’s Ain’t Too Proud (the Temptations musical)…

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:27:05pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:28:36pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:30:11pm

re: #17 JOE 🥓

Why are progressives always the ones who have to compromise —and not Joe Manchin?

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Centrism is a radical position when the underlying argument is that the current level of suffering and injustice is sustainable…but the game is that you never have to acknowledge that you’re arguing in favor of The Lottery, you just propose that you’re the reasonable synthesis of relative extremes, that all other positions are unreasonable in some vector.

This is what Manchin and Sinema are doing to a T.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:31:04pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:32:22pm

re: #23 jaunte

Did she get lost in the hallway and blunder into the Democratic Party?

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:33:29pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:35:11pm

re: #25 jaunte

Fellosteo.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:36:15pm

Cutting prices to the bone.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:38:09pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

Did she get lost in the hallway and blunder into the Democratic Party?

Unfortunately we cannot afford to lose a single Democratic Senator. If one switches parties —- and McConnell is no doubt courting them assiduously — the Biden administration is dead. No judicial appointments. No legislation. No Senate approval of any appointments. There is no margin for error.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:43:06pm

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately we cannot afford to lose a single Democratic Senator. If one switches parties —- and McConnell is no doubt courting them assiduously — the Biden administration is dead. No judicial appointments. No legislation. No Senate approval of any appointments. There is no margin for error.

That’s why I’m convinced the 2020 election was a barely-recoverable loss.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:47:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:47:11pm
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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:48:45pm

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:51:21pm

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 6:57:36pm

The La Palma fountain of rocks has died down a lot but the side vent of molten lava has reopened and is flowing faster than before.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:00:05pm

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TedStriker  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:04:25pm

re: #35 BlueSpotinAL

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Rimshot

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:06:39pm

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:07:57pm

re: #37 William Lewis

Armored reconnaissance in defilade.

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William Lewis  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:09:40pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Heh. I just liked the clouds :)

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:09:57pm

re: #35 BlueSpotinAL

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Garry Owen

Garryowen, by Celtic Stew. with Lyrics

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:12:13pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:15:01pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Lady Waters & the Hooded One

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:15:42pm

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

Garry Owen

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The Ft. Knox band used to wake us with that at ungodly hours. Always wondered what SGT Hightower, an Indian Scout, thought of it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:17:05pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Throughout history monsters have gotten away with mass slaughter and enslavement; they escape justice because they retain too much power or too many adoring supporters. It is seldom that the citizens of their nation attain the authority or will to overturn them and bring them to justice. Stalin and Mao both died peacefully after decades of violence inflicted on any who disagreed with them; Hitler was only dislodged from office through the most devastating war in history — and not through an internal uprising. Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein — tyrants overthrown by outsiders. Trump has not yet reached that level of evil or power but he does have the same psychological hold over millions of Americans.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:19:21pm

Off to the next “audit”.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:24:56pm

re: #45 Rightwingconspirator

Off to the next “audit”.

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Bridge height restrictions = Totalitarianism.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:34:08pm

re: #46 stpaulbear

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:39:44pm
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sagehen  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:40:54pm

Broadway is BACK at The Tony Awards

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A Cranky One  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:42:17pm

re: #45 Rightwingconspirator

We always knew fox news was slanted.

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:43:50pm

re: #45 Rightwingconspirator

Off to the next “audit”.

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That’s a pretty damn solid camera stand, that it would tilt the whole truck instead of just breaking off.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:45:50pm

I know I’m going to end up in an 11foot8 rabbit hole tonight.

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A Cranky One  Sep 26, 2021 • 7:56:23pm

re: #51 sagehen

That’s a pretty damn solid camera stand, that it would tilt the whole truck instead of just breaking off.

Looks like a large telescoping microwave transmitter. That would be anchored to the van frame.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 26, 2021 • 8:08:24pm

re: #51 sagehen

That’s a pretty damn solid camera stand, that it would tilt the whole truck instead of just breaking off.

It’s an antenna mast for a microwave dish. Instead of aiming for a satellite, they win for their station’s tower. They do live shots with it. It’s somewhat old-school, but stations still have these trucks. It’s very dangerous if the mast hits power lines. That has happened to live trucks.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2021 • 8:12:41pm

STUPIDEST ANTI-VAXXER YOU WILL SEE ALL DAY
EDIT: who is not dead yet.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 26, 2021 • 8:18:34pm

re: #44 Hecuba’s daughter

Throughout history monsters have gotten away with mass slaughter and enslavement; they escape justice because they retain too much power or too many adoring supporters. It is seldom that the citizens of their nation attain the authority or will to overturn them and bring them to justice. Stalin and Mao both died peacefully after decades of violence inflicted on any who disagreed with them; Hitler was only dislodged from office through the most devastating war in history — and not through an internal uprising. Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein — tyrants overthrown by outsiders. Trump has not yet reached that level of evil or power but he does have the same psychological hold over millions of Americans.

On the other hand, a lot of nooses are drawing tight around him — but when you want to bring someone like that down, you only get one shot. And it’s only been eight months since he left office. Hard to build a good case in that short a time. (Nixon was in office for almost two years after Watergate, because it took that long to assemble evidence, and if Ford hadn’t pardoned him (@#$&%), it would probably have been even longer before he was brought to trial.)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 8:44:30pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:00:59pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:05:29pm

re: #57 Dread Pirate Ron

It’s a big giveaway to the wealthy, it’s a laundry list of agenda items pulled right out of the Bernie Sanders socialist playbook.”
Rep. Jason Smith (R) on the Build Back Better Bill.
Imagine that! A Bernie Sanders socialist giveaway to the wealthy!

If It were that, the repugs would be unanimous in voting for it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:06:49pm

Traces of Texas

10h *
The Arcane Texas Fact of the Day:
Tumbleweeds are edible. Here is a recipe that I tried a few years ago and the tumbleweed was not only palatable, but delicious:
In the late spring and early summer, when the tumbleweeds (Amaranthus albus) are first coming out, pull the young, tender weeds when they are about 4-5 inches high. Pull off the roots, wash the tumbleweeds in a colander, and blanch.
Saute some chopped onion in a little oil, then add a can of tomato paste and enough water to make a medium-thick sauce. Add salt, pepper, garlic, hot pepper and any other spices desired. Finally, add the prepared tumbleweeds and simmer for a few minutes. Serve as a side dish or over a bed of Spanish rice.
I got this recipe from Bob Phillips’ “Texas Country Reporter” cookbook, published in 1990.

Along the same line:
Tree Bark Eating for Beginners

For the choicest strips of bark, be sure to go for the nutritious, tender inner layer known as the cambium. (Eating the outer bark would be no more pleasant than chomping into your bookshelf.) If some resin or gum oozes out as you pry off the main course, be sure to lap it up for quick energy. Here are a few fun ways to serve tree bark:

Raw. Shred finely and chew thoroughly.
Slice it into strips and boil it to make a rustic pasta. Top with sap, dandelion greens, or insect parts (see entry #2). Alternatively, you can add the noodles to a stew.
Dry and grind into flour. The ground bark is pretty versatile and can be mixed with water into a breakfast gruel, baked into bread, added to soup for extra body, or even guzzled straight like a Pixy Stick.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:12:32pm
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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:13:58pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Interesting. She Who Must Be Obeyed is doing the narration of the story over a musical setting of alto and bass flute.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:22:31pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Traces of Texas

Along the same line:
Tree Bark Eating for Beginners

I’m thinking that once they are bouncing around the blue highways of West Texas and stacking up on fence lines the edibility is, like, zero?

Yeah, I’m going with zero.

Now, please tell me about the saving graces of Cholla and Lechuguilla.

All I can recall is screaming at the top of my lungs after getting thrown from a horse into either.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:30:49pm

Sorry for the vivid drive-by, but lechuguilla and cholla really are Texas things that pretty much anyone who has spent time west of US 281 on a horse or doing field work has had a direct encounter. It never goes well for humans. The plants have no fucks to give.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:35:56pm

Night all! Sam peaked out at +/- 160 MPH today and isn’t going to to fuck with anything but shipping.

See you all tomorrow.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:44:43pm

Vaccine in the chicken

gocomics.com

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2021 • 9:46:52pm

balloon-juice.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 26, 2021 • 10:08:15pm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 26, 2021 • 10:10:40pm

My weekend tech nightmare is drawing to a close - last thing on my list is to kiss Apple goodbye and hop back on Samsung again.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2021 • 11:03:25pm

re: #17 JOE 🥓

Why are progressives always the ones who have to compromise —and not Joe Manchin?

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Because Joe has job security. Any time his colleagues or party members start grumbling, somebody pops out of thin air to declare that nothing can be done about Joe because he’s “the only Democrat who can win in WV” and if we don’t want Mitch back as Majority Leader then we have to keep pulling the lever for Joe.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2021 • 11:09:11pm

re: #23 jaunte

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Hence the obsession with the price tag and the debt, rather than any real criticism of what’s actually in the bill. Manchin and Sinema know that campaigning against the actual bill is an election loser, so they’re instead trying to kneecap it by ripping out the funding mechanisms.

It’s the same thing we saw back in ‘09 when the ACA sausage was being made, conservative Dems who are deathly afraid of being deemed “tax and spend” kept looking for ways to dampen or outright kill any new/higher taxes intended to pay for the bill.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 11:13:06pm

re: #68 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Dammit, now I have to play that song.

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2021 • 11:42:20pm

Remember a few days ago the thread about fun entries to the duck stamp contest?

We now know, the duck aiming his gun at hunters, the Duck With Pearl Earring and several others were Last Week Tonight commissions.

Now up for auction!! all proceeds go to preserving wetland habitat.

bestduckingstamps.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 11:45:00pm

re: #73 sagehen

Where do ducks put earrings?, and the link goes to privacy policy for me.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 11:48:53pm

The fountain vent is going full bore now.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2021 • 11:51:26pm

LOL, and then it totally stops….

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2021 • 12:13:04am

re: #74 Dread Pirate Ron

Where do ducks put earrings?, and the link goes to privacy policy for me.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 12:13:17am

re: #75 Dread Pirate Ron

The fountain vent is going full bore now.

re: #76 Dread Pirate Ron

LOL, and then it totally stops….

Oh, who among us hasn’t had morning like that before?

//

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2021 • 12:34:06am

A quiet morning at the volcano.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2021 • 12:47:14am

re: #77 sagehen

I just watched Last Week Tonight.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:01:33am

.

Schumann - Choral Works: Romanzen und Balladen (reference recording: Henryk Czyz)



..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:18:11am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

I used to think Poe’s “Masque of the Red Death” was just a story, not a prediction of the future.

I am not a fan of anything Zombie, but I really liked World War Z (the novel, not the film adaptation) because it is not so much about zombies as it is about how humanity consistently fails to deal with a crisis: first we ignore it, then the authorities deny it and try to hide it (ostensibly to avoid panic) then the truth starts to leak out and people panic (because they know they have been lied to) then a number of half-measures are put in place that wind up only exacerbating the situation, etc…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:22:03am

re: #21 The Pie Overlord!

“I’d rather watch my children fly out the front windshield and splatter on the pavement than see them harnessed by seatbelts at the order of the government.”

“I would rather let my children die than expect them to take some simple steps to protect their fellow human beings.”

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:40:26am

What we’ve learned in the last 10 months is everything we knew to be true was (in fact) totally true:

“I remember one White House official cavalierly saying to me, and this was around the time that then-President Trump was pushing for schools to reopen,” Brown recalled. “They said, ‘Well, we just need to get kids back in the class because everybody is going to get this virus at some point or another, and it’s going to spread wildly, and there’s no way to contain it.’ It stuck with me how casual they were about that, as you just pointed out as one of the issues you didn’t believe was actually true.”

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John Hughes  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:42:54am

re: #67 Belafon

But the point of the story was that Petrov wasn’t made a scapegoat.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:44:18am

Byrna HD Personal Security Device

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:48:25am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Like Boris Johnson, Trump supported the “Herd immunity” approach. Because that would have done the least damage to the economy.

Because we exist to feed the furnaces of industry and must be prepared to shovel in our parents and children if called upon to do so.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 1:54:14am

re: #86 Dave In Austin

non-lethal but if you pull that near a police officer, you are gonna be dead in seconds…

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 2:14:30am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I used to think Poe’s “Masque of the Red Death” was just a story, not a prediction of the future.

I am not a fan of anything Zombie, but I really liked World War Z (the novel, not the film adaptation) because it is not so much about zombies as it is about how humanity consistently fails to deal with a crisis: first we ignore it, then the authorities deny it and try to hide it (ostensibly to avoid panic) then the truth starts to leak out and people panic (because they know they have been lied to) then a number of half-measures are put in place that wind up only exacerbating the situation, etc…

I’ve always felt that the theme of WWZ could be summed up in Kay’s words from Men In Black: “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.” Every chapter dealt with how humans deal with danger, whether it was on a national level, a local level, or an individual level. Some will turn and face it, others will work to deal with it, but most will run from it in any way they can. It could be in placebos, it could be in bunkers, it could be in throwing useless junk in a car and heading to the frozen north, but humans in large groups rarely are sensible enough to deal with a crisis in any way but running from it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 2:17:28am

re: #89 Targetpractice

I’ve always felt that the theme of WWZ could be summed up in Kay’s words from Men In Black: “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”

And Corona has shown what happens when those who over-emphasize “personal freedoms” are left in charge.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 2:39:03am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Corona has shown what happens when those who over-emphasize “personal freedoms” are left in charge.

What COVID proved is that millions of our fellow Americans would, if their Red Dawn fantasies ever came to pass and we were invaded by a hostile foreign power, either run to the woods to hide in the hopes that the Armed Forces would save them or readily collaborate with the enemy for the promise that they could join in dealing with the “enemies of the state.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 2:43:49am

Personal freedoms buck up against their limits when they start to impinge on the rights of others, which is why the “freedom” to go about unmasked and unvaccinated has to be restricted when it comes to any situations or spaces where people are likely to come into close contact.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 2:54:43am

I am glad to see that the CDU/CSU not only got its clocks cleaned in the recent elections, but that several unsavory characters lost their seats.

One was Daniel Amthor, a young up-and-coming politician who got caught out in some blatant “consulting” jobs he provided to clients while serving in Parliament, along with Minister of Agriculture Julia Klöckner, who posted several FB ads warning Germans that voting for Greens and Socialists would turn Germany into a criminal wasteland dominated by Antifa, anarchists and terrorists.

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William Lewis  Sep 27, 2021 • 3:02:38am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I may be misremembering (wouldn’t be the first time) but I thought that the CDU/CSU were the more moderate conservative party and it was the AfD that were the far right nut jobs?

Will the SDU be forming a coalition government?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 3:15:52am

re: #94 William Lewis

I may be misremembering (wouldn’t be the first time) but I thought that the CDU/CSU were the more moderate conservative party and it was the AfD that were the far right nut jobs?

Will the SDU be forming a coalition government?

The CDU/CSU are much more moderately conservative (although still massively liberal by American standards) than the populist AfD.

But the CDU/CSU had been in power so long that they had lost touch and were just a self-serving bevvy of politicians.

The SPD is looking to form a coalition with the Greens and the Free Democrats, who are like the CDU/CSU when it comes to economic policy but not as conservative on social issues.

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William Lewis  Sep 27, 2021 • 3:25:58am

Gotcha. I try to keep up with it on DW but it’s not always clear to someone in the States because our two parties are so very different from those in Europe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 3:33:44am

re: #96 William Lewis

Gotcha. I try to keep up with it on DW but it’s not always clear to someone in the States because our two parties are so very different from those in Europe.

The CDU/CSU is analogous to our Republicans (but still way too liberal for their taste) and the SPD analogous to our Democrats (although way to the left), while the Free Democratic Party is somewhat like the (now defunct) liberal wing of the GOP.

The AfD are mostly just populists who can promise anything as they have never governed beyond state or local level, the Greens are Green and die Linke is made up of the remains of the old East German Communist Party and the extreme left wing of the Socialists.

The latter did very poorly in the last election, barely managing enough votes and seats to be included in Parliament.

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William Lewis  Sep 27, 2021 • 4:09:26am

Yet another ugly story about education in my supposedly progressive state… I’ve paged it.

Wisconsin Schools Called Police on Students at Twice the National Rate. For Native Students, It Was the Highest.

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 4:37:30am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I’d rather watch my children fly out the front windshield and splatter on the pavement than see them harnessed by seatbelts at the order of the government.”

“I would rather let my children die than expect them to take some simple steps to protect their fellow human beings.”

i’m ok sacrificing my kids. I’ll be fine.

i am a crackpot
and a sociopath

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 4:42:23am

re: #84 Targetpractice

What we’ve learned in the last 10 months is everything we knew to be true was (in fact) totally true:

[Embedded content]”I remember one White House official cavalierly saying to me, and this was around the time that then-President Trump was pushing for schools to reopen,” Brown recalled. “They said, ‘Well, we just need to get kids back in the class because everybody is going to get this virus at some point or another, and it’s going to spread wildly, and there’s no way to contain it.’ It stuck with me how casual they were about that, as you just pointed out as one of the issues you didn’t believe was actually true.”

because they had zero, absolutely no clue, how to attack it therefore ‘there’s no way’.

no plan (they tossed the book)
no ideas of their own
and no guts to make the hard decisions

because it can’t be their incompetence or lack of imagination.
it had to be ‘we have no choice’

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 4:44:17am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Personal freedoms buck up against their limits when they start to impinge on the rights of others, which is why the “freedom” to go about unmasked and unvaccinated has to be restricted when it comes to any situations or spaces where people are likely to come into close contact.

it’s your fist/ my nose, where ‘your fist’ is your aerosol exhaust

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 27, 2021 • 4:51:27am

re: #100 Dangerman

because they had zero, absolutely no clue, how to attack it therefore ‘there’s no way’.

no plan (they tossed the book)
no ideas of their own
and no guts to make the hard decisions

because it can’t be their incompetence or lack of imagination.
it had to be ‘we have no choice’

They knew exactly how to attack it. They knew, on some level, that what Dr. Fauci and others were saying was true. They just didn’t want to accept it because that would mean doing work, which is something they would never do if it could be avoided. And since they had people willing to say that they didn’t have to do work, that they could just let a million or more people die and the rest would work itself out naturally - why not?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 4:52:07am

re: #100 Dangerman

because they had zero, absolutely no clue, how to attack it therefore ‘there’s no way’.

A President can rally support even in times of crisis, if he is showing resolve and leadership. But Trump was incapable of understanding that because he was incapable of showing true leadership.

All he knew was that the revenue streams for his heavily leveraged properties were threatening to dry up and expose true financial situation. And he (rather correctly) figured that as long as the economy is doing well, people will re-elect the President in power.

And had Covid not come along, he would have been re-elected. Not necessarily by the popular vote, but he would have been able to pull of his electoral coup had the popular vote been closer. It turned out to be too much of a close-run thing even given the record turnout for Biden.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:09:29am

La Palma volcano now just outgassing:

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:12:51am

re: #102 Dopamine Fish

They knew exactly how to attack it. They knew, on some level, that what Dr. Fauci and others were saying was true. They just didn’t want to accept it because that would mean doing work, which is something they would never do if it could be avoided. And since they had people willing to say that they didn’t have to do work, that they could just let a million or more people die and the rest would work itself out naturally - why not?

you are so right
i did miss that
they would have had to do a lot of work
it would have defined the administration
they would have had to make hard choices and then take the heat for being wrong (because nothing goes 100% right)

they did not have decision makers or true leaders
they were in way over their heads.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:13:49am

re: #64 austin_blue

We live in the heads and hearts of Texans and New Mexicans
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:14:23am

re: #105 Dangerman

they did not have decision makers or true leaders
they were in way over their heads.

It would have involved being Presidential: in the sense of presiding.

That means finding competent people, giving them authority to make decisions and backing them up on those decisions. That has never been his style…

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:16:37am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It would have involved being Presidential: in the sense of presiding.

That means finding competent people, giving them authority to make decisions and backing them up on those decisions. That has never been his style…

+1

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:35:39am

Good morning, Southern Idaho style.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:43:28am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Crisp mornings and bright and sunny days. That’s fall in the NYC metro area, and I am totally here for it.

Meanwhile, the gears of justice are grinding all too slowly against the 1/6 cabal of cronies and insurrectionists, and while the DOJ has to put together airtight cases, there’s a steady drumbeat of people insisting Garland do something (at times, I do too).

We’ve got a seemingly endless list of people involved from Trump on down, Trump doing confessionals in public admitting he was intent on overthrowing the outcome of the election, and pressuring officials to throw out certified votes in violation of multiple state and federal laws, then came word that Sidney Powell implicated a bunch of GOPers in the House and Justice Sam Alito in a scheme to overthrow the election.

How she knows this? There’s only one way to find out. Investigate those guys, haul them in to testify under oath, and watch them take the 5th repeatedly. Because that’s what has to be done.

Rep. Thomson is signaling his intent to call people like Trump to testify. Goad Trump. Trump is such a vain and egotistical know nothing that he’ll be eager to testify, only to cite the 5th and other laws to avoid testifying about his actions and conduct around the 1/6 insurrection. There’s no downside to Trump testifying here. None. He thinks he’s done nothing wrong and boasts about his actions to his crowd. He openly engaged in felony conduct while in the White House. He was impeached twice, and the GOP covered up his crimes (with good reason, as they too were implicated in those crimes).

The GOP are irredeemably lost. They are cruel, malicious, and don’t care about anything except power (and the money that delivers it/maintains it). When right wingers claim that Democrats’ radical agenda includes expanding Medicare to help more people afford health care, get more people educated, and clean up the environment, it’s damning that the GOP doesn’t care about any of that except to say that all of it would mean higher taxes for the richest of Americans. That’s all the GOP has left on economic policies - protecting the tax cuts for billionaires.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:43:53am

re: #24 Decatur Deb

Why did Dems nominate and select her for a Senate run? That’s what I don’t understand. She has always been a DINO.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:50:01am

re: #111 Patricia Kayden

Why did Dems nominate and select her for a Senate run? That’s what I don’t understand. She has always been a DINO.

IIRC, they were having trouble finding candidates in a state that hadn’t gone Democrat in a while if ever.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 5:54:54am

re: #111 Patricia Kayden

Why did Dems nominate and select her for a Senate run? That’s what I don’t understand. She has always been a DINO.

A passion for “firsts”.

Freshly elected to the Senate, Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (D) represents a slew of “firsts.” She will be Arizona’s first female senator. She was the first openly bisexual person elected to Congress and carries that first with her to the Senate. And the former Mormon was the first person sent to Congress to claim no religion. After winning her congressional seat in 2012, she was sworn in on the Constitution, forgoing the Bible chosen by Christians — the dominant religion for members of Congress, especially those from Arizona.

washingtonpost.com
thelily.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:06:02am

re: #113 Decatur Deb

So she started out with a lot of ideological promise but quickly turned into a major albatross around the party’s neck…

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:10:35am

re: #109 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Good morning, Southern Idaho style.

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Good morning. Spent a little bit of my morning chopping ham in a food processor, in lieu of a grinder, as Mrs. Fish intends to make ham loaf this week. It’s an open question if she’s going to request that I also chop up the pork butt. The beef, at least, is already ground.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:11:37am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So she started out with a lot of ideological promise but quickly turned into a major albatross around the party’s neck…

Because the primary voters mistook personal traits for policy positions.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:14:33am

Karma kicks another wingnut in the jimmies:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:15:19am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Karma kicks another wingnut in the jimmies:

The man has really gone far, far around the bend.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:15:33am

re: #117 Targetpractice

So the Tree of Herd Immunity is demanding blood and souls?
///

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:21:13am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Well, he is so full of horse shit, that he might see a benefit from dewormer.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:21:21am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Karma kicks another wingnut in the jimmies:

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I hope he continues to use ivermectin, which is effective on parasites, not viruses…but I’ve got a hunch he’s really on Regeneron.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:22:08am

re: #115 Dopamine Fish

Good morning. Spent a little bit of my morning chopping ham in a food processor, in lieu of a grinder, as Mrs. Fish intends to make ham loaf this week. It’s an open question if she’s going to request that I also chop up the pork butt. The beef, at least, is already ground.

What is a ham loaf?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:22:22am

re: #121 darthstar

I hope he continues to use ivermectin, which is effective on parasites, not viruses…but I’ve got a hunch he’s really on Regeneron.

I cannot begin to imagine what his fever-dream cartoons are going to look like if he recovers…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:22:42am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What is a ham loaf?

One that was accursed by Noah?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:23:31am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Karma kicks another wingnut in the jimmies:

May he wind up on the wall of shame that is sorryantivaxxer.com.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:23:52am

All you in the middle of the country are going to be hot over the next couple of days, after that cool and warm:

Image: gfs-T2m-nhem-fh0-300.gif

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:24:19am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One that was accursed by Noah?

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:25:24am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot begin to imagine what his fever-dream cartoons are going to look like if he recovers…

That’s the scary thing about Covid…you can think you beat it and then you relapse and your lungs fill with fluid.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:26:16am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What is a ham loaf?

It’s a meatloaf, but made with ham. Specifically, a mix of ham, pork, and beef, salted, glazed, and baked.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:26:26am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One that was accursed by Noah?

*WHACK!*

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:28:57am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One that was accursed by Noah?

Wouldn’t it have simplified things greatly if Noah had just voided the swine reservations?

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:31:02am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Karma kicks another wingnut in the jimmies:

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Trump-loving cartoonist Ben Garrison says he is struggling to beat COVID — and is treating it with ivermectin

I dont believe half of what these people “say” they’re doing

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:32:51am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What is a ham loaf?

About $8/HR

(too much of a stretch?)

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:34:37am

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Wouldn’t it have simplified things greatly if Noah had just voided the swine reservations?

And the mosquitoes

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:35:08am

re: #132 Dangerman

I dont believe half of what these people “say” they’re doing

They lie.

All the time.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:41:58am

re: #135 Florida Panhandler

They lie.

All the time.

They also list out all of the quack treatments that Trump touted as things they’re taking together. If anyone took a look at the potential contra-indications of such a drug cocktail it would likely make their head spin.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:42:37am

re: #129 Dopamine Fish

It’s a meatloaf, but made with ham. Specifically, a mix of ham, pork, and beef, salted, glazed, and baked.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:45:55am

The insurrection was planned by the Trumpists to prevent Congress from certifying Biden’s victory. Powell must be subpoenaed by the January 6 Committee.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:48:30am

re: #138 No Malarkey!

The insurrection was planned by the Trumpists to prevent Congress from certifying Biden’s victory. Powell must be subpoenaed by the January 6 Committee.

It’s infuriating that these assholes are just saying this shit out loud with no (as of yet) ramifications.

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Mattand  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:53:54am

re: #138 No Malarkey!

The insurrection was planned by the Trumpists to prevent Congress from certifying Biden’s victory. Powell must be subpoenaed by the January 6 Committee.

Just so I’m clear: this tweet is implying that a SCOTUS judge was possibly conspiring in the insurrection as well?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:54:10am

re: #132 Dangerman

I dont believe half of what these people “say” they’re doing

They always have an out. If he dies, “the deep state” killed him because of his work. If he lives, well. You see. Ivermectin works! Hospitals are killing people by not using it!!

Now… I doubt he even has Covid. I bet he’s fully vaccinated and making this shit up so he can push ivermectin as a miracle cure, proving they’re all smarter than the doctors and scientists.

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Dangerman  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:54:37am

re: #136 darthstar

They also list out all of the quack treatments that Trump touted as things they’re taking together. If anyone took a look at the potential contra-indications of such a drug cocktail it would likely make their head spin.

But I don’t know what’s in the vaccine

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:55:02am

re: #139 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s infuriating that these assholes are just saying this shit out loud with no (as of yet) ramifications.

More infuriating that most of the adults in the country agree with it, never heard of it, or just don’t give a shit. That is the fatal flaw.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:56:20am

re: #138 No Malarkey!

The insurrection was planned by the Trumpists to prevent Congress from certifying Biden’s victory. Powell must be subpoenaed by the January 6 Committee.

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Considering how bullshit just flows from this woman’s mouth like Niagara Falls, I’m gonna need more than her word to go on here.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:59:18am

re: #140 Mattand

Just so I’m clear: this tweet is implying that a SCOTUS judge was possibly conspiring in the insurrection as well?

The SCOTUS judge whose wife bussed in some of the insurrectionists? That SCOTUS judge?

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:59:50am

His family caught covid while waiting for him in Florida:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2021 • 6:59:57am

re: #144 Targetpractice

Considering how bullshit just flows from this woman’s mouth like Niagara Falls, I’m gonna need more than her word to go on here.

But by getting her to say something like that under oath you:
a) Have to get Alito to deny it - which puts him under scrutiny anyways.
b) Pretty much completely ruin Powell to the conservative forces, probably permanently.
c) Help the GQP continue with the process of eating their own and tossing money at that instead of campaigns.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:00:25am

re: #140 Mattand

Just so I’m clear: this tweet is implying that a SCOTUS judge was possibly conspiring in the insurrection as well?

Somewhere a screenwriter is shouting, “How can I put this in and keep it at two hours?”

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:00:36am
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:00:59am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:01:02am

re: #141 GlutenFreeJesus

They always have an out. If he dies, “the deep state” killed him because of his work. If he lives, well. You see. Ivermectin works! Hospitals are killing people by not using it!!

Now… I doubt he even has Covid. I bet he’s fully vaccinated and making this shit up so he can push ivermectin as a miracle cure, proving they’re all smarter than the doctors and scientists.

Yeah. All that. Except I think it would be happenstance. Few of them think far enough out to do that…too much planning needed for reactionaries.

Has anyone seen or heard from Laura Loomer lately?

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:01:03am

re: #146 Belafon

His family caught covid while waiting for him in Florida:

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So it’s not space Covid?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:02:24am

re: #147 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But by getting her to say something like that under oath you:
a) Have to get Alito to deny it - which puts him under scrutiny anyways.
b) Pretty much completely ruin Powell to the conservative forces, probably permanently.
c) Help the GQP continue with the process of eating their own and tossing money at that instead of campaigns.

Lock get up for a stupid lie she didn’t have to make up. That would be amazing, actually.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:02:37am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The SCOTUS judge whose wife bussed in some of the insurrectionists? That SCOTUS judge?

Oh, sorry…that is the other SCOTUS judge. I get confused with all the Federalist asshats on the SCOTUS.

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Mattand  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:03:05am

re: #139 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s infuriating that these assholes are just saying this shit out loud with no (as of yet) ramifications.

Get used to it. My brother, probably the walking example of “Both sides suck”, is utterly fine with Trump being president based on Needy Amin’s alleged genius presiding over the stock market.

He just doesn’t follow this stuff. We need people like him to step up and say “These people need to go to jail because what they did is what the Confederates, Nazis, and Soviet Russia have tried to do.”

Spoiler alert: it ain’t happening. Most people I know try to ignore this stuff and just want it to go away. Trump and his crew will never be held accountable for trying to overthrow the government.

I hate typing that and I probably just pissed off half the membership here, but it’s true. We have a political party that is openly, actively trying to rig the government so they remain in power unopposed for decades. Our fucking idiot “independent” voters literally refuse to accept that reality.

That has to be fixed. That group needs to stand with the Democrats and demand justice. And it won’t happen. Ever.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:03:17am

re: #148 darthstar

Somewhere a screenwriter is shouting, “How can I put this in and keep it at two hours?”

“So hear me out: 11th hour twist is that a Supreme Court Justice was in on the plan to prevent the election winner from being certified as such.”

“Okay, first question is ‘Why?’”

“…I’m working on that.”

“Get out.”

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:03:39am

re: #104 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

La Palma volcano now just outgassing:

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I’ve been doing that a bit this morning myself

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Mattand  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:03:49am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The SCOTUS judge whose wife bussed in some of the insurrectionists? That SCOTUS judge?

Alito’s wife did that?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:04:15am

It begins:

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:04:57am

Ireland:

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:05:33am

re: #156 Targetpractice

“So hear me out: 11th hour twist is that a Supreme Court Justice was in on the plan to prevent the election winner from being certified as such.”

“Okay, first question is ‘Why?’”

“…I’m working on that.”

“Get out.”

All we need is a giant meteor headed toward earth.
We got that.
Jesus…how can it get any worse?
The meteor has a sister.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:06:41am

re: #135 Florida Panhandler

They lie.

All the time.

The are serving a Higher Truth, one that is not constrained by objective facts.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:07:37am

re: #161 darthstar

All we need is a giant meteor headed toward earth.
We got that.
Jesus…how can it get any worse?
The meteor has a sister.

The meteors are diverted by billionaire tourists in the first tandem Space-X launch.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:07:48am

… In other words, unvaccinated people in Utah have been between 4.4 times and 5.1 times more likely to get COVID-19, be hospitalized, or die because of it than vaccinated people in the past eight months.

OK, pretty straightforward. But that’s obviously been changing, right? After all, you’ve heard a lot recently (including from me, by the way) about vaccine efficacy declining as time passes. Given that the majority of those vaccinated got their shots in March, April and May, five to seven months ago, aren’t we likely to see that gap shrink?

Not so fast! It turns out that the gap has actually been growing. In other words, we’re seeing the multiplier — the ratio of coronavirus cases among the unvaccinated when compared to the vaccinated — increase over the past month.

Why is that? Well, coronavirus spread happens exponentially. Because the vaccine prevents most cases and makes other cases more mild, the contagion coefficient is higher in mostly unvaccinated communities compared to mostly vaccinated ones…

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:07:55am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:10:02am

re: #164 Belafon

Why is that? Well, coronavirus spread happens exponentially. Because the vaccine prevents most cases and makes other cases more mild, the contagion coefficient is higher in mostly unvaccinated FREEDOM-LOVING communities compared to mostly vaccinated DEMON SPERM-INFESTED ones…

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:15:51am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The SCOTUS judge whose wife bussed in some of the insurrectionists? That SCOTUS judge?

I thought that was (supposed to be) Clarence Thomas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:17:58am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The SCOTUS judge whose wife bussed in some of the insurrectionists? That SCOTUS judge?

I grow increasing convinced that it is too late to save Democracy in America: the players are already in place and it is just a matter of time before the GOP plan starts to bite.

I hope this is just my pessimism getting the better of me right now, but the news has not been improving at all.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:23:09am

re: #167 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

I thought that was (supposed to be) Clarence Thomas.

It was…apparently two justices were in on the act. It’s almost like all the conservative assholes just decided, “Let’s burn the Constitution and stay in power with Trump…what’s the worst that could happen?” and then woke up on Jan 7th and thought, Now, how do I distance myself from this night of debauchery and why am I wearing Lindsey Graham’s underwear?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:26:49am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I grow increasing convinced that it is too late to save Democracy in America: the players are already in place and it is just a matter of time before the GOP plan starts to bite.

I hope this is just my pessimism getting the better of me right now, but the news has not been improving at all.

It’s pessimistic, but it’s inside the Realm of the Plausible. As always, we are locked in a fight for the survival of a humane future, and we are 2 points behind.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:28:07am

re: #169 darthstar

It was…apparently two justices were in on the act. It’s almost like all the conservative assholes just decided, “Let’s burn the Constitution and stay in power with Trump…what’s the worst that could happen?” and then woke up on Jan 7th and thought, Now, how do I distance myself from this night of debauchery and why am I wearing Lindsey Graham’s underwear?

Finest South Carolina cotton, by the grace of God.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:29:06am

Today’s Rant.

Just took a covid test.

1) I have to because I have a colonoscopy scheduled for Thursday.
2) I have a comedy show tonight and don’t want to infect others.

I should get the results back about 4PM with enough time to cancel.

I’m pissed because after having covid and getting both my shots I still need to get tested because too many fucking idiots are fucking idiots. I am not ever going to forgive or forget all the assholes that brought us to this point.

If I do make it to the stage tonight, part of my set will be about the above mentioned fucking idiots.

I’m hoping for the best.

PS I do honestly believe that the response to covid (or lack of) is going to hurt Republicans in the next election.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:29:07am

re: #140 Mattand

Just so I’m clear: this tweet is implying that a SCOTUS judge was possibly conspiring in the insurrection as well?

I don’t think so, no. But the Trumpists wanted to give Alito time to enjoin the certification in hopes he would.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:29:57am

re: #172 I Would Prefer Not To

Today’s Rant.

Just took a covid test.

1) I have to because I have a colonoscopy scheduled for Thursday.
2) I have a comedy show tonight and don’t want to infect others.

I should get the results back about 4PM with enough time to cancel.

I’m pissed because after having covid and getting both my shots I still need to get tested because too many fucking idiots are fucking idiots. I am not ever going to forgive or forget all the assholes that brought us to this point.

If I do make it to the stage tonight, part of my set will be about the above mentioned fucking idiots.

I’m hoping for the best.

PS I do honestly believe that the response to covid (or lack of) is going to hurt Republicans in the next election.

edit: I’m going to take a nap now.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:29:59am

re: #169 darthstar

It was…apparently two justices were in on the act. It’s almost like all the conservative assholes just decided, “Let’s burn the Constitution and stay in power with Trump…what’s the worst that could happen?” and then woke up on Jan 7th and thought, Now, how do I distance myself from this night of debauchery and why am I wearing Lindsey Graham’s underwear?

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:31:54am
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:32:08am

re: #165 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:34:08am

re: #173 No Malarkey!

I don’t think so, no. But the Trumpists wanted to give Alito time to enjoin the certification in hopes he would.

Not sure I would go so far as to say No. It’s within the realm of possibilities. I am not saying yea or nay. Not yet.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:37:10am

re: #144 Targetpractice

Considering how bullshit just flows from this woman’s mouth like Niagara Falls, I’m gonna need more than her word to go on here.

That is why she must testify under oath, and the FBI should be conducting an investigation.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:37:53am

re: #169 darthstar

It was…apparently two justices were in on the act. It’s almost like all the conservative assholes just decided, “Let’s burn the Constitution and stay in power with Trump…what’s the worst that could happen?” and then woke up on Jan 7th and thought, Now, how do I distance myself from this night of debauchery and why am I wearing Lindsey Graham’s underwear?

We have been hearing for a year or more that the Supreme Court was going to do Trumpish things that in fact they did not do. They did, after all, refuse to hear every case challenging the election that was brought before them, to the great dismay and fury of TFG (“I put them where they are! They’re disloyal to me!”)

I have yet to see a scrap of evidence that the “SC overthrow of the election” is anything but wishful thinking on the part of DT and his supporters.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:38:59am

re: #172 I Would Prefer Not To

Today’s Rant.

Just took a covid test.

1) I have to because I have a colonoscopy scheduled for Thursday.
2) I have a comedy show tonight and don’t want to infect others.

I should get the results back about 4PM with enough time to cancel.

I’m pissed because after having covid and getting both my shots I still need to get tested because too many fucking idiots are fucking idiots. I am not ever going to forgive or forget all the assholes that brought us to this point.

If I do make it to the stage tonight, part of my set will be about the above mentioned fucking idiots.

I’m hoping for the best.

Donning the XM3 Standup Comedy Ensemble

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No Malarkey!  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:39:14am

re: #151 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yeah. All that. Except I think it would be happenstance. Few of them think far enough out to do that…too much planning needed for reactionaries.

Has anyone seen or heard from Laura Loomer lately?

She has been posting a lot on GETTR.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:41:13am
American white supremacist Robert Rundo’s last known whereabouts was Bosnia and Herzegovina, after he was kicked out of Serbia by local authorities back in March. He’s claimed to be on the “no-fly list” and has boasted that, as a result, it took him “a few months” to make his way from the U.S. to Eastern Europe. Meanwhile, he’s waiting to find out if the Supreme Court will hear his last-ditch appeal to avoid jail time for federal rioting charges.

Though nobody knows where Rundo is, his latest pet project—a network of far-right, locally-operated MMA groups dubbed “Active Clubs”—are cropping up in the U.S. and beyond.

Through his new organization, Will2Rise, Rundo has sought alliances with more-established outfits like the Proud Boys and Patriot Front by appealing to their glorification of masculinity, youth, white nationalism, and violence.

Two centralized Telegram channels for Will2Rise and “Active Club” gives Rundo and other leaders in the movement the platform to tout their highly-stylized, neo-fascist aesthetic through propaganda videos and images, many of which are generated through their own “media outlet” Media2Rise.

A White Supremacist Is Organizing Fight Clubs Across the US (Vice)

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:41:44am

re: #110 lawhawk

Alito must resign.

Now.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:44:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:45:52am

re: #180 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

I have yet to see a scrap of evidence that the “SC overthrow of the election” is anything but wishful thinking on the part of DT and his supporters.

They need only refuse to act and let it happen…

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Mattand  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:49:21am

re: #172 I Would Prefer Not To

Today’s Rant.

Just took a covid test.

1) I have to because I have a colonoscopy scheduled for Thursday.
2) I have a comedy show tonight and don’t want to infect others.

I should get the results back about 4PM with enough time to cancel.

I’m pissed because after having covid and getting both my shots I still need to get tested because too many fucking idiots are fucking idiots. I am not ever going to forgive or forget all the assholes that brought us to this point.

If I do make it to the stage tonight, part of my set will be about the above mentioned fucking idiots.

I’m hoping for the best.

PS I do honestly believe that the response to covid (or lack of) is going to hurt Republicans in the next election.

Similar boat as you on the colonoscopy, only I’ve managed to avoid COVID-19 so far. I try to be responsible as possible with COVID mitigation. Knowing that essentially any GOP-run state is dong everything it can to undo what I’m doing and actually make people sick makes me want to punch a wall.

Also, good for you for getting the colonoscopy. My first one probably saved my life.

You’re in Manhattan, right? Do you get pushback from MAGAts and spread necks when you call them out in your act? My sense is that down here in Philly/South Jersey, there’d be one or two really aggressive COVidiots in the audience who’d disrupt the show.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:50:55am

I have been vaccinated since the end of July but have generally avoided any social interaction within enclosed areas.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:51:07am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They need only refuse to act and let it happen…

They DID refuse to act and thus let it not happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:53:17am

re: #189 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

They DID refuse to act thus and let it not happen.

I suspect that they will do a number like they did with Texas, declaring: “Wow, this is even too confusing and convoluted for the Supreme Court” (while failing to acknowledge that they consulted with the GOP to ensure it would turn out that way)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:56:27am

re: #180 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

We have been hearing for a year or more that the Supreme Court was going to do Trumpish things that in fact they did not do. They did, after all, refuse to hear every case challenging the election that was brought before them, to the great dismay and fury of TFG (“I put them where they are! They’re disloyal to me!”)

I have yet to see a scrap of evidence that the “SC overthrow of the election” is anything but wishful thinking on the part of DT and his supporters.

Agreed. But remember, they are saving all their power do make women 2nd class citizens. Then the gayz. Then all the other undesirables. THIS is why they are there.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:57:03am

re: #181 Decatur Deb

Donning the XM3 Standup Comedy Ensemble

[Embedded content]

He* needs to work that into his routine. That’s funny.

*edited

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 7:57:20am

re: #182 No Malarkey!

She has been posting a lot on GETTR.

In the last couple of days?

SHIT!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:01:42am

re: #185 Belafon

And Group One cannot understand why changing your ideas in the presence of new evidence is a good thing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:02:23am

Going through a recent volume of the journal Religions and found the following paper, which I have not read yet but looks to contain information useful to keep in one’s back pocket:

The Historical Role of Leviticus 25 in Naturalizing Anti-Black Racism

Leviticus 25:39-46 describes a two-tier model of slavery that distinguishes Israelites from foreign slaves. It requires that Israelites be indentured only temporarily while foreigners can be enslaved as chattel (permanent property). This model resembles the distinction between White indentured slaves and Black chattel slaves in the American colonies. However, the biblical influence on these early modern practices has been obscured by the rarity of citations of Lev. 25:39-46 in sixteenth- and seventeenth-century sources about slavery. This article reviews the history of slavery from ancient Middle Eastern antiquity through the seventeenth century to show the unique degree to which early modern institutions resembled the biblical model. It then exposes widespread knowledge of Leviticus 25 in early modern political and economic debates. Demonstrating this awareness shows with high probability that colonial cultures presupposed the two-tier model of slavery in Leviticus 25:39-46 to naturalize and justify their different treatment of White indentured slaves and Black chattel slaves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:05:43am

re: #195 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Going through a recent volume of the journal Religions and found the following paper, which I have not read yet but looks to contain information useful to keep in one’s back pocket:

The Historical Role of Leviticus 25 in Naturalizing Anti-Black Racism

As I understand, the first blacks who came over to America did so as indentured servants.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:05:55am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect that they will do a number like they did with Texas, declaring: “Wow, this is even too confusing and convoluted for the Supreme Court” (while failing to acknowledge that they consulted with the GOP to ensure it would turn out that way)

Will do? I thought we were talking about the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:11:58am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:13:23am

re: #192 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He* needs to work that into his routine. That’s funny.

*edited

I came close to that when distributing Halloween candy last year. Had the components of a Scott Air-Pak around the garage.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:14:28am

re: #199 Decatur Deb

I wonder what Halloween costumes will be like this year.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:15:23am

re: #117 Targetpractice

Karma kicks another wingnut in the jimmies:

Just waiting for the Go Fund Me for Ben Garrison when he does the Dirt Nap.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:15:30am
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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:16:01am

re: #200 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder what Halloween costumes will be like this year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:17:47am

re: #197 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Will do? I thought we were talking about the Jan. 6 insurrection.

We are, I mean that the SCOTUS (or members of) conferred with Texas about sending them an abortion bill that they could let stand while retaining some semblance of integrity & neutrality.

I suspect that when (it is not a matter of if) disputed election results come before SCOTUS, they want to have an argument in place for why they will rule in the GOP’s favor (or decline to rule if that outcome favors the GOP)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:18:06am

re: #200 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder what Halloween costumes will be like this year.

If we have the energy, Daughter1 and I will set up a curbside mock level 4 lab with a glovebox. Remember, she’s in the reddest part of Alabama.

We’re committing to Reese’s PB for ease of handling. (And I won’t mind eating the overages.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:23:28am

re: #201 JOE 🥓

Just waiting for the Go Fund Me for Ben Garrison when he does the Dirt Nap.

Stop teasing me and getting me all excited.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:23:40am

STOP PRESS!

Ben Garrison says he’s treating Covid with…

BEET JUICE!

Damn, I had my bet that the next Big Thang for Antivaxxers was V8 Juice!

Ben Garrison, the MAGA world cartoonist who has posted a load of anti-vax propaganda during the pandemic, says he’s come down with a bad case of COVID—and is turning to beet juice to save himself. Garrison made a name for himself during the Trump years with viral cartoons that were heavy with conspiracy theories and depicted the exercise-avoiding ex-president as a hyper-masculine, square-jawed beefcake. Speaking to Gizmodo, Garrison confirmed he and his wife have caught COVID and revealed his ineffectual self-treatment. “We’re taking Ivermectin and various vitamins including a lot of zinc,” Garrison said, who also revealed that he’s been guzzling beet juice. Unlike the vaccine, none of his named treatments have been proven to do anything to treat or prevent falling sick with the coronavirus. However, Garrison remains defiant in his views, saying: “We will never take their foul spike protein-producing jabs, which are neither safe nor effective. They’re not real vaccines.”

gizmodo.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:25:14am

re: #200 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder what Halloween costumes will be like this year.

I’m dressing up as anti-vaxxer. They’re pretty fucking scary.

/

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No Malarkey!  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:25:42am

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not sure I would go so far as to say No. It’s within the realm of possibilities. I am not saying yea or nay. Not yet.

I’m not saying Alito didn’t, though I’m 99.9% sure he wasn’t part of a conspiracy. I’m just saying Powell’s interview doesn’t implicate him.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:25:59am

Welcome Back, Droney!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:26:53am

A couple of new additions to sorryantivaxxer.com. The dude leaves behind SIX children with a mother who is not what I would call proficient in the English language.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:27:32am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:27:54am

re: #209 No Malarkey!

I’m not saying Alito didn’t, though I’m 99.9% sure he wasn’t part of a conspiracy. I’m just saying Powell’s interview doesn’t implicate him.

That’s an interesting take. I think her words do, indeed, implicate him. Whether he is aware of any of that is a separate matter.

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Teukka  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:28:32am

re: #207 JOE 🥓

STOP PRESS!

Ben Garrison says he’s treating Covid with…

BEET JUICE!

Damn, I had my bet that the next Big Thang for Antivaxxers was V8 Juice!

Ben Garrison, the MAGA world cartoonist who has posted a load of anti-vax propaganda during the pandemic, says he’s come down with a bad case of COVID—and is turning to beet juice to save himself. Garrison made a name for himself during the Trump years with viral cartoons that were heavy with conspiracy theories and depicted the exercise-avoiding ex-president as a hyper-masculine, square-jawed beefcake. Speaking to Gizmodo, Garrison confirmed he and his wife have caught COVID and revealed his ineffectual self-treatment. “We’re taking Ivermectin and various vitamins including a lot of zinc,” Garrison said, who also revealed that he’s been guzzling beet juice. Unlike the vaccine, none of his named treatments have been proven to do anything to treat or prevent falling sick with the coronavirus. However, Garrison remains defiant in his views, saying: “We will never take their foul spike protein-producing jabs, which are neither safe nor effective. They’re not real vaccines.”

gizmodo.com

How old is the guy?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:29:10am

re: #214 Teukka

How old is the guy?

old enough to know better and young enough not to claim dementia

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:30:20am

re: #214 Teukka

How old is the guy?

Mentally or…?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:31:59am

re: #211 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

His wifes name is Ludora and based on the the way she writes I am guessing she is most likely Eastern European (Czech Republic or Poland maybe).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:32:56am

re: #214 Teukka

How old is the guy?

About 63 according to the Interwebz.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:32:58am

re: #216 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Mentally or…?

Garrison claims to be in his 60s which would work out to at least 420…for my neighbor’s dog…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:34:15am

re: #219 JOE 🥓

Garrison claims to be in his 60s which would work out to at least 420…for my neighbor’s dog…

I hear your neighbor’s dog is a better cartoonist as well.
//

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No Malarkey!  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:36:35am

re: #213 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s an interesting take. I think her words do, indeed, implicate him. Whether he is aware of any of that is a separate matter.

I didn’t hear Powell say anything that indicated that Alito was aware that the insurrectionists were trying to prevent the vote to give him time to enjoin it.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:36:37am

So, shit just got real…

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:37:42am

On Sidney Powell, Samuel Alito, and Ron Filipkowski: See this thread.

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A Cranky One  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:40:18am

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:42:30am

re: #223 Dopamine Fish

On Sidney Powell, Samuel Alito, and Ron Filipkowski: See this thread.

It suggests that the purpose of the insurrection was to DELAY the electoral college certification to give Alito time to intervene on this legal challenge.

That was clearly stated in the near-realtime news reports/internet chatter.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:45:41am

Good stuff here. Looks like they’re working on oral treatments for those infected.

cnn.com

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:47:44am

re: #184 Dr Lizardo

Alito must resign.

Now.

We don’t know for a fact, as C1nnabar pointed out in 180, that any of this is true. But we do know that Thomas’ wife was involved, and for that I believe he should step down. If the GOP wants to paint Alito as also corrupt and compromised, that could lead to him doing the same, and I’m okay with that. Just so long as Democrats don’t decide that three years before an election is too soon to approve new justices because McConnell says so.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:50:44am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

That was clearly stated in the near-realtime news reports/internet chatter.

The timing just doesn’t work, though. The case was filed in plenty of time for Justice Alito to be able to take action prior to the riot. I think they’re trying to make up a plausible post facto excuse for an event which was clearly planned with the intent of stopping the electoral vote count entirely. To the extent that this excuse was already present in the real-time chatter, I feel it may have been a smoke screen to justify violent action to people who might not have wanted to engage in violence.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:52:04am

re: #228 Dopamine Fish

The timing just doesn’t work, though. The case was filed in plenty of time for Justice Alito to be able to take action prior to the riot. I think they’re trying to make up a plausible post facto excuse for an event which was clearly planned with the intent of stopping the electoral vote count entirely. To the extent that this excuse was already present in the real-time chatter, I feel it may have been a smoke screen to justify violent action to people who might not have wanted to engage in violence.

I think they were hoping that the riot would raise questions. It might have also been that they were hoping a few beat up or dead Democrats would raise questions.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:52:57am

re: #229 Belafon

I think they were hoping that the riot would raise questions. It might have also been that they were hoping a few beat up or dead Democrats would raise questions.

Mobs don’t think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:53:09am

re: #229 Belafon

I think they were hoping that the riot would raise questions. It might have also been that they were hoping a few beat up or dead Democrats would raise questions.

Or a few tortured & lynched Representatives?

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:53:17am

Blast from the past

U.S. judge will grant unconditional release of would-be Reagan assassin John W. Hinckley Jr.

I’m sure Jim Brady’s kids would dissent from this along with Jodie Foster.

washingtonpost.com

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:53:18am

re: #217 Eclectic Cyborg

His wifes name is Ludora and based on the the way she writes I am guessing she is most likely Eastern European (Czech Republic or Poland maybe).

Svobodá is definitely a Czech name.

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darthstar  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:55:03am

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A Cranky One  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:56:56am

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Teukka  Sep 27, 2021 • 8:59:15am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

old enough to know better and young enough not to claim dementia

re: #216 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Mentally or…?

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

About 63 according to the Interwebz.

Damn. If he’s pushing alternative treatments, and assuming it’s because he has symptoms, his chances do not look great…

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:01:54am

re: #236 Teukka

At least he isn’t going to the hospital.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:01:57am

re: #236 Teukka

Damn. If he’s pushing alternative treatments, and assuming it’s because he has symptoms, his chances do not look great…

again, stop getting my hopes up. The world will be a better place if BG never publishes another cartoon

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Teukka  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:03:19am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, stop getting my hopes up. The world will be a better place if BG never publishes another cartoon

Long CoViD could cause that. And that is more likely than him croaking…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:06:06am

re: #198 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

Why wasn’t this person arrested? Terroristic threats are illegal in every state. These tools do this because they aren’t getting enough pushback. Push back and they will wilt away. Bullies always do.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:06:28am

re: #235 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

Because crackpot white nationalist media like Tucker Carlson told them or their idiot friends to be concerned, and they don’t trust anyone competent enough to be part of the American mainstream.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:09:30am

Maybe we will get lucky and Jon McNaughton will get Covid too. 😈

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:11:03am

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:13:05am

re: #207 JOE 🥓

STOP PRESS!

Ben Garrison says he’s treating Covid with…

BEET JUICE!

Damn, I had my bet that the next Big Thang for Antivaxxers was V8 Juice!

Ben Garrison, the MAGA world cartoonist who has posted a load of anti-vax propaganda during the pandemic, says he’s come down with a bad case of COVID—and is turning to beet juice to save himself. Garrison made a name for himself during the Trump years with viral cartoons that were heavy with conspiracy theories and depicted the exercise-avoiding ex-president as a hyper-masculine, square-jawed beefcake. Speaking to Gizmodo, Garrison confirmed he and his wife have caught COVID and revealed his ineffectual self-treatment. “We’re taking Ivermectin and various vitamins including a lot of zinc,” Garrison said, who also revealed that he’s been guzzling beet juice. Unlike the vaccine, none of his named treatments have been proven to do anything to treat or prevent falling sick with the coronavirus. However, Garrison remains defiant in his views, saying: “We will never take their foul spike protein-producing jabs, which are neither safe nor effective. They’re not real vaccines.”

gizmodo.com

Ummmmmm, LEAVE MY V8 ALONE!

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:16:05am
STOP PRESS!

Ben Garrison says he’s treating Covid with…

BEET JUICE!

Damn, I had my bet that the next Big Thang for Antivaxxers was V8 Juice!

Ben Garrison, the MAGA world cartoonist who has posted a load of anti-vax propaganda during the pandemic, says he’s come down with a bad case of COVID—and is turning to beet juice to save himself. Garrison made a name for himself during the Trump years with viral cartoons that were heavy with conspiracy theories and depicted the exercise-avoiding ex-president as a hyper-masculine, square-jawed beefcake. Speaking to Gizmodo, Garrison confirmed he and his wife have caught COVID and revealed his ineffectual self-treatment. “We’re taking Ivermectin and various vitamins including a lot of zinc,” Garrison said, who also revealed that he’s been guzzling beet juice. Unlike the vaccine, none of his named treatments have been proven to do anything to treat or prevent falling sick with the coronavirus. However, Garrison remains defiant in his views, saying: “We will never take their foul spike protein-producing jabs, which are neither safe nor effective. They’re not real vaccines.”

You said it three times

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:17:43am

GOP rep. calls for 2020 election redo after audit disproves conspiracy theories (CNN via MSN)

Watching the video, it’s obvious that Gozar has some kind of neurological condition.

Years ago he denied that something was wrong with him.
Rep. Paul Gosar addresses health problems: ‘I’m as healthy as a horse’ (AZ Central)

A horse that moved like he does would not have a bright future.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:18:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:20:17am

re: #246 Punish Domestic Terrorists

GOP rep. calls for 2020 election redo after audit disproves conspiracy theories (CNN via MSN)

Watching the video, it’s obvious that Gozar has some kind of neurological condition.

Sickness has now become style.

This is all part of an ongoing strategy to keep the 2020 “stolen” election in the news cycle and headlines.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:21:50am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are, I mean that the SCOTUS (or members of) conferred with Texas about sending them an abortion bill that they could let stand while retaining some semblance of integrity & neutrality.

I suspect that when (it is not a matter of if) disputed election results come before SCOTUS, they want to have an argument in place for why they will rule in the GOP’s favor (or decline to rule if that outcome favors the GOP)

They already did that in 2000 — when the court was far less ideological than it is today — but it still had 5 GOP members who put country over party. There were 2 other GOP appointees who tended to vote with the Democrats: Stevens and Souter. Today, all GOP appointees are hardline conservatives.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:24:56am

re: #246 Punish Domestic Terrorists

GOP rep. calls for 2020 election redo after audit disproves conspiracy theories (CNN via MSN)

Watching the video, it’s obvious that Gozar has some kind of neurological condition.

Years ago he denied that something was wrong with him.
Rep. Paul Gosar addresses health problems: ‘I’m as healthy as a horse’ (AZ Central)

A horse that moved like he does would not have a bright future.

I got a feeling somebody is munching on the horse paste.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:27:57am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are, I mean that the SCOTUS (or members of) conferred with Texas about sending them an abortion bill that they could let stand while retaining some semblance of integrity & neutrality.

I suspect that when (it is not a matter of if) disputed election results come before SCOTUS, they want to have an argument in place for why they will rule in the GOP’s favor (or decline to rule if that outcome favors the GOP)

Actions speak louder than words. Disputed election reports have already come before them many times (in 2020) and they have refused to act on them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:34:13am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, stop getting my hopes up. The world will be a better place if BG never publishes another cartoon

Let’s not forget that these fanatics are also lining up for monoclonal antibodies. Also a vast majority of those infected, even without treatment, survive the disease anyway, including very elderly patients. Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is an as yet undetermined genetic component on who suffers severe disease vs mild or moderate. But it would be a benefit to the world if more of the vocal and infamous anti-vaxxers were struck by fatal complications.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:43:54am

re: #220 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I hear your neighbor’s dog is a better cartoonist as well.
//

Definitely a better perception of reality.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:44:37am

re: #246 Punish Domestic Terrorists

GOP rep. calls for 2020 election redo after audit disproves conspiracy theories (CNN via MSN)

Watching the video, it’s obvious that Gozar has some kind of neurological condition.

Years ago he denied that something was wrong with him.
Rep. Paul Gosar addresses health problems: ‘I’m as healthy as a horse’ (AZ Central)

A horse that moved like he does would not have a bright future.

Healthy as a horse doesn’t mean much since they think taking dewormer is a good thing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:50:04am

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

OWN ME!! I’d hate being owned. Own me!!

(I hate when I resort to begging. Pretty please own me?!!)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:50:26am

Does anyone know if all federal GOP congresspersons are vaccinated?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:51:47am

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

Does anyone know if all federal GOP congresspersons are vaccinated?

They seem to be vaccinated against reality.
//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:54:42am

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

Does anyone know if all federal GOP congresspersons are vaccinated?

eu.usatoday.com

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:54:44am

re: #226 GlutenFreeJesus

Good stuff here. Looks like they’re working on oral treatments for those infected.

cnn.com

3rd paragraph:

But the Kellys, who live in Seattle, had agreed just after their diagnoses to join a clinical trial at the nearby Fred Hutch cancer research center that’s part of an international effort to test an antiviral treatment that could halt covid early in its course.

I looked it up to see if they’d changed their name.

Did you mean: Fred Hutchinson cancer research center ?

Otherwise, a truly inspirational article. I don’t like to be so picky, but that one was biting my ankles.

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gwangung  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:57:44am

re: #259 wrenchwench

We commonly call it Fred Hutch around here, particularly if you’re in UW medicine and UW fundraising….

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:57:49am

Question to lizards: why was Lee Greenwood removed from the NEA? He was initially appointed by Bush in 2008 and reappointed by Obama and Trump. The RW media is lit because of this and it doesn’t really seem like something that should have attracted Biden’s attention.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:58:34am

re: #183 Punish Domestic Terrorists

A White Supremacist Is Organizing Fight Clubs Across the US (Vice)

It pains me to think the Crips, Bloods and Latin Kings might be needed to help protect our Democracy. (‘cause y’know, I have very little faith in Antifa to show the means, the will, or the numbers to fulfill their declared mission).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2021 • 9:58:39am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fucking idiots:

Disclosure of member’s vaccination status has relied solely on an honor system, so an exact vaccination rate is hard to pin down. CNN reported 97 House Republicans refused to disclose their vaccination status.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:00:43am

re: #261 Hecuba’s daughter

Question to lizards: why was Lee Greenwood removed from the NEA? He was initially appointed by Bush in 2008 and reappointed by Obama and Trump. The RW media is lit because of this and it doesn’t really seem like something that should have attracted Biden’s attention.

He was not “fired”, he was just not reappointed at the end of his third six-year term.

But of course it is being spun as part of the Cultural War on White Patriotic Songwriters.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:00:49am
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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:01:08am

re: #260 gwangung

We commonly call it Fred Hutch around here, particularly if you’re in UW medicine and UW fundraising….

OK, thanks. My ankles feel better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:01:14am

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking idiots:

Disclosure of member’s vaccination status has relied solely on an honor system, so an exact vaccination rate is hard to pin down. CNN reported 97 House Republicans refused to disclose their vaccination status.

which means they are vaccinated and don’t dare admit it…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:02:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:02:38am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which means they are vaccinated and don’t dare admit it…

Right. Because in the GOP, being reasonable costs you votes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:03:09am

re: #268 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Ohhhh snap.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:03:35am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was not “fired”, he was just not reappointed at the end of his third six-year term.

But of course it is being spun as part of the Cultural War on White Patriotic Songwriters.

So “patriotic” he rewrites his own “iconic song” for other countries. Also, I am not even Canadian but I know that “From sea to shining sea” should be “The True North strong and free”

God Bless You Canada - Lee Greenwood

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:04:18am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was not “fired”, he was just not reappointed at the end of his third six-year term.

But of course it is being spun as part of the Cultural War on White Patriotic Songwriters.

But it looks like he was reappointed in 2020Link, so his term would not be up now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:04:49am

A little over an hour away

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aatharuv  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:05:56am

re: #207 JOE 🥓

STOP PRESS!

Ben Garrison says he’s treating Covid with…

BEET JUICE!

Damn, I had my bet that the next Big Thang for Antivaxxers was V8 Juice!

Ben Garrison, the MAGA world cartoonist who has posted a load of anti-vax propaganda during the pandemic, says he’s come down with a bad case of COVID—and is turning to beet juice to save himself. Garrison made a name for himself during the Trump years with viral cartoons that were heavy with conspiracy theories and depicted the exercise-avoiding ex-president as a hyper-masculine, square-jawed beefcake. Speaking to Gizmodo, Garrison confirmed he and his wife have caught COVID and revealed his ineffectual self-treatment. “We’re taking Ivermectin and various vitamins including a lot of zinc,” Garrison said, who also revealed that he’s been guzzling beet juice. Unlike the vaccine, none of his named treatments have been proven to do anything to treat or prevent falling sick with the coronavirus. However, Garrison remains defiant in his views, saying: “We will never take their foul spike protein-producing jabs, which are neither safe nor effective. They’re not real vaccines.”

gizmodo.com

To think I was just about to plant some beet seeds… But there aren’t that many anti-vaxers where I live, so hopefully, I’ll be able to eat them at home in a few months rather than selling them to (I’ll be polite)…. credulous individuals.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:06:43am

Welp if Biden faints after his booster at least he will have enough public appearances later to stem the “He’s actually dead” crowd ala Fainting Nurse. ///

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:07:37am

re: #265 The Pie Overlord!

When it comes to that little brat Gaetz I’m still surprised that he hasn’t been indicted yet.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:08:00am

re: #275 Rightwingconspirator

Welp if Biden faints after his booster at least he will have enough public appearances later to stem the “He’s actually dead” crowd ala Fainting Nurse. ///

Excuse me, WUT?

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:09:31am

re: #277 Jay C

Excuse me, WUT?

apnews.com

Yeah some claim she died from the vaccine after fainting on camera, re appearing later and explaining she has a medical condition that causes easy fainting.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:10:17am

re: #274 aatharuv

My sister’s mother in law knew how to make borscht and it was so good with that scoop of sour cream in the center.

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aatharuv  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:10:33am

re: #275 Rightwingconspirator

Welp if Biden faints after his booster at least he will have enough public appearances later to stem the “He’s actually dead” crowd ala Fainting Nurse. ///

The “He’s actually dead” crowd will “prove” that Joe Biden has been replaced with an advanced humaniform robot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:11:17am

re: #280 aatharuv

The “He’s actually dead” crowd will “prove” that Joe Biden has been replaced with an advanced humaniform robot.

Or a subterranean pedophile lizard person

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:11:47am

re: #187 Mattand

Similar boat as you on the colonoscopy, only I’ve managed to avoid COVID-19 so far. I try to be responsible as possible with COVID mitigation. Knowing that essentially any GOP-run state is dong everything it can to undo what I’m doing and actually make people sick makes me want to punch a wall.

Also, good for you for getting the colonoscopy. My first one probably saved my life.

Just know that the absolutely WORST part of the colonoscopy is the night before after you drink the prep solution. That’s unpleasant.

But the day-of procedure itself is piece of cake. If you’re getting the monitored anesthesia, it’s actually quite restful.

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:14:28am

re: #282 sagehen

Just know that the absolutely WORST part of the colonoscopy is the night before after you drink the prep solution. That’s unpleasant.

But the day-of procedure itself is piece of cake. If you’re getting the monitored anesthesia, it’s actually quite restful.

I can’t get the anesthesia thanks to Humira and blood thinners. Hurts like CENSORED!

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:15:08am

Oh, by the way…

This is the second day after I got the booster, and the arm is slightly tender to the touch. Local soreness and a few twinges when I moved it were all the aftereffects I had.

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No Malarkey!  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:17:35am

Ben Garrison is one of the two most recent entries on sorryantivaxxer.com, along with this literal flat earther. sorryantivaxxer.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:17:59am

Is there a rule that Presidental scheduled appearances must be late?
whitehouse.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:19:28am

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

Does anyone know if all federal GOP congresspersons are vaccinated?

my congresscritter isn’t vaccinated

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JOE 🥓  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:25:39am

re: #285 No Malarkey!

Ben Garrison is one of the two most recent entries on sorryantivaxxer.com, along with this literal flat earther. sorryantivaxxer.com

Ben told it, “Covid don’t you ever come around here”
“Don’t wanna see your virus, you better disappear”
The fire’s in his eyes and his words are really clear
So BEET IT! just BEET IT!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2021 • 10:42:53am

re: #283 JOE 🥓

I can’t get the anesthesia thanks to Humira and blood thinners. Hurts like CENSORED!

And they blow you up like a balloon. It is a weird feeling when they are extracting and sucking back out the air they put in. My first one I was partially awake for it. I told the doc I could expel that air all by myself.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 27, 2021 • 11:10:27am

re: #282 sagehen

Just know that the absolutely WORST part of the colonoscopy is the night before after you drink the prep solution. That’s unpleasant.

But the day-of procedure itself is piece of cake. If you’re getting the monitored anesthesia, it’s actually quite restful.

My issue with these procedures is managing transportation afterwards since you have to have someone pick you up and get you home.

Prep has generally not been that bad. (Though the last time it did not go well and I was advised to use a modified procedure the next time. Apparently Type 2 diabetes and the usual pills and stuff in Gatorade mix do not necessarily play together well in terms of properly flushing you out.)

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2021 • 12:38:18pm

re: #202 jaunte

Steve Silberman
stevesilberman
Rest in peace, Commander Cody (born George Frayne) of his Lost Planet Airmen, who died of cancer this morning. I saw them open for Hot Tuna many nights at the old Academy of Music in NYC. Always a great, joyful, raucous, swinging time. [📸Chesher Cat] nippertown.com …>/blockquote>

Great band. Saw them is mid 60s.

George broke the 4th wall during the concert asking if anyone in the audience knew the final score of a MLB baseball game played that evening.

“Mama hated diesels so bad….”

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2021 • 12:51:19pm

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was not “fired”, he was just not reappointed at the end of his third six-year term.

But of course it is being spun as part of the Cultural War on White Patriotic Songwriters.

Department of redundancy concert department:

Lee Greenwood & Toby Keith.


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