Simply Beautiful: “ITSA ME, MARO!” (Calling Jacob Collier)

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“ITSA ME, MARO!”: I call, they answer. Split-screen videos with some amazing friends & musicians 🧡 Today I got to call Jacob Collier. Here’s a video of our conversation! Thank you for watching.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:33:32pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:36:03pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:45:20pm

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:46:36pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:48:06pm

re: #4 Dopamine Fish

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:52:29pm

re: #5 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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ckkatz  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:54:11pm

re: #4 Dopamine Fish

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:54:20pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 3, 2021 • 6:57:58pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

That woman gets more beautiful with each passing year.

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SerialUpDinger  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:00:51pm

For Teleskiguy…Your neck of the woods?

YouTube

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:02:46pm

re: #1 The Pie Overlord!

For those uninterested or maybe not sure, the Republican platform has evolved from just lying all the time to outright hostility towards elections in general.

We have numerous candidates for upcoming elections openly promising they will personally step in and not certify elections where Democrats win or substitute their own personal selection of electors in upcoming elections.

Is anybody aware of this?

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:03:13pm

re: #7 ckkatz

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Thanks. And thanks to all who sent your well wishes. Y’all are the best people, I’m so glad we have this place to hang out and vent and talk about random stuff.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:03:54pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:05:42pm
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:06:04pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

“If a man does not work, he shall not eat.”

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sagehen  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:14:34pm

Is a 4th grader a man?

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:15:14pm

re: #16 sagehen

Is a 4th grader a man?

Republicans seem hell-bent on treating every baby who is born as a full-grown adult, so…

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ckkatz  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:15:30pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

People don’t eat in the long run, they eat every day.
- Harry Hopkins

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:16:00pm

re: #16 sagehen

It depends. How well are his parents doing?

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:23:59pm

2017: Bainbridge Island looking towards Seattle

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:25:33pm

Now y’all really need to check out my updated Twitter profile. Seriously.

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A Cranky One  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:26:21pm

re: #16 sagehen

Is a 4th grader a man?

The rule is different for kids. For kids, the rule is:

If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding!

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ckkatz  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:27:31pm

Stephen Foster wrote this in 1854:

Hard Times Come Again No More

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Belafon  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:28:39pm

re: #19 jaunte

It depends. How well are his parents doing?

I figured it had more to do with skin color.

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mmmirele  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:29:28pm

littlegreenfootballs.com danarchy

Screw that. You don’t follow someone into the bathroom with a camera. You want to ambush her on the way out, fine, but you do not follow her in that is threatening AF

No, FUCK THAT. She won’t talk to her constituents, but she will hold fundraising events and try to hide from us. WE’RE TIRED. Frankly, I hope Kyrsten Sinema was shocked…shocked into realizing that her constituents are pissed off!

I’m not going to criticize the kids, because they were braver than me to take their case directly to the slippery, evasive belly up to the trough senator from Arizona. Criticize me…we’re REALLY angry here.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:30:21pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:32:47pm
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ckkatz  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:35:37pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

Well, he certainly has a high opinion of himself. I suspect that makes a grand total of one.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:35:40pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

“keep yourself fairly clean”

He’s so definitive in all the other specs.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:46:38pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

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Can you say “INCEL” boys and girls?

I knew you could!

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TedStriker  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:50:26pm

re: #25 mmmirele

littlegreenfootballs.com danarchy

No, FUCK THAT. She won’t talk to her constituents, but she will hold fundraising events and try to hide from us. WE’RE TIRED. Frankly, I hope Kyrsten Sinema was shocked…shocked into realizing that her constituents are pissed off!

I’m not going to criticize the kids, because they were braver than me to take their case directly to the slippery, evasive belly up to the trough senator from Arizona. Criticize me…we’re REALLY angry here.

I’m sorry, but I strongly disagree, even if there’s plenty to excoriate Sinema for.

There’s two places one should have a reasonable expectation of privacy: the bedroom and the bathroom. However, in the case of Sinema (and Manchin), everywhere else is fair game.

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jaunte  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:58:14pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 7:59:52pm

re: #10 SerialUpDinger

San Juan Mountains, about a three hour drive south southwest from where I’m at. On exceptionally clear days you can see Mt. Sneffels all the way in Grand Junction 100 miles to the north. I climbed Mt. Sneffels way back during my first stint in college in Gunnison, CO. I took two SUV loads of kids up that mountain, had to take over driving from this Finnish dude who volunteered his Chevy Tahoe, he got too scared driving up Yankee Boy Basin.

That poor Finnish dude, only one in the group who didn’t summit. We got close to the crux of the (standard) route. The steepness and exposure, while not really crazy, is still enough to make people scared of heights really nervous. He was hyperventilating and cursing in Finnish. I finally told him there’s no shame in turning around if he felt too uncomfortable, he did. We were about 30 yards from the summit.

That day I was with a couple of people who were on their first 14,000 ft. mountain climb. One dude asked me to take a picture of him naked on the summit, I obliged.

The Snake Couloir? That’s hardcore. Could I ski it? Sure. But you have to get up there first.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:07:35pm

Laura Loomer is definitely fuckable - but there is no fucking way in Hell I would fuck her, come hell or high water…

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:14:57pm

TMI

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:15:16pm

re: #32 jaunte

Cumbre Vieja has been putting on quite the show tonight.

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William Lewis  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:16:22pm

re: #34 Eric The Fruit Bat

Laura Loomer is definitely fuckable - but there is no fucking way in Hell I would fuck her, come hell or high water…

I need brain bleach now.

How about I imagine being Molly Ringwald’s toy boy instead? Much better.

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retired cynic  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:19:19pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

ROFL!

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:19:37pm

re: #28 ckkatz

Well, he certainly has a high opinion of himself. I suspect that makes a grand total of one.

Why do I want to think that our pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, Catholic’s yellowed-out university name belongs to an Irving, Texas based conservative Catholic university that counts L. Brent Bozell III among its distinguished alumni?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:21:41pm

re: #27 Dave In Austin

If that many specifics don’t scare the ladies off…

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:22:19pm

re: #10 SerialUpDinger

Thanks for that trip down memory lane BTW! Always cherish that one!

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:28:55pm

So I guess Kacey *actually did this* on SNL last night.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:30:22pm

Considering a brief vacation while still on the other side of the globe, an opportunity arose that seemed intriguing.
Pros: Dirt-cheap airfare international tickets (~40$ for an international round trip total), good vacation hotels and apartment options, have my regional full-vaccination ID documentation, and tickets are still available for a rare reunion tour performance of a band I grew up on and really wanna see live (Genesis).
Cons: It’s the UK and maybe it’s just me but it seems like things there are going worse with each passing day; would need to pay for a $100+ “Day 2” COVID test; if results are delayed, would mess up my return flight; and if positive, would force me to self-quarantine somehow in a foreign country for 14 days on what’s supposed to be a 4/5-day trip.
Legitimate travel concerns in the COVID era, or am I being too paranoid at this stage?

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William Lewis  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:34:12pm

re: #43 (((Archangel1)))

Considering a brief vacation while still on the other side of the globe, an opportunity arose that seemed intriguing.
Pros: Dirt-cheap airfare international tickets (~40$ for an international round trip total), good vacation hotels and apartment options, have my regional full-vaccination ID documentation, and tickets are still available for a rare reunion tour performance of a band I grew up on and really wanna see live (Genesis).
Cons: It’s the UK and maybe it’s just me but it seems like things there are going worse with each passing day; would need to pay for a $100+ “Day 2” COVID test; if results are delayed, would mess up my return flight; and if positive, would force me to self-quarantine somehow in a foreign country for 14 days on what’s supposed to be a 4/5-day trip.
Legitimate travel concerns in the COVID era, or am I being too paranoid at this stage?

The concert would tempt me in your spot but not enough for the rest of it. Paranoia is safety these days.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:37:16pm

The fall colors in mountainous Colorado are freaking spectacular this year. Thank you, moisture!

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SerialUpDinger  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:42:08pm

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:45:12pm

Catered a memorial service up at the ski area today. Last minute kind of thing, we made it happen, it was kind of a hassle, but we were catering hundreds of grieving people, so we were glad to do it.

The decedent was a beloved attorney in Glenwood Springs, CO. An impressive individual by any standard. Died in a motorcycle accident last weekend not far from my house. Leaves behind a wife and two children. 😢

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retired cynic  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:48:57pm

re: #46 SerialUpDinger

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CleverToad  Oct 3, 2021 • 8:52:26pm

re: #223 Dopamine Fish

Tragedy has finally struck.

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BigPapa  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:02:31pm

Sorry about that DF.

Been away for a bit, busy with some new shit and new distractions.

So tonight Wife Unit says ‘hey there’s (stuff) can you do something with it like make a paella?’

I thought it’s not paella without a paella pan, saffron, spanish chorizo. So I said sure, why not?

So I made rice in a pan with chicken base and lots of turmeric and a little pepper. Looks like saffron!

Chopped up Portugese sausage and sweated in my cast iron skillet. Once colored, added garlic, carrot, and onion. While that was cooking, chopped a freezer tilapia fillet up and got about 6 shrimp. Mixed in a bowl with a little olive oil and spices. Pulled the sausage/veggies schmutz out and put in bowl with uncooked shrimp and tilapia. In oiled hot skillet, put the just cooked rice in and patted down a touch. Needs good contact. Put the schmutz in the bowl over the top of the rice in an even layer. 450 broil for 10 minutes then 450 oven for another 10 then about 20 out of the oven under foil and a blanket.

While not paella, it was killer. Got a little toast on the rice where it met the pan.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:17:01pm

How much you wanna bet this guy buying the hot dog is unvaccinated?

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CleverToad  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:20:15pm

Called my sister-in-law in Granger TX for her 75th birthday (small town just east of Georgetown). Her younger son and his 13-year-old live with her; her older son lives next door. She has diabetes, neuropathy, is in generally lousy shape. Sons and grandson not vaxxed; she had the Moderna shot #1 but never went back for the second. Fox-watching right-wing evangelical bible-thumpers.

So you guessed it, she spent her birthday in quarantine. Our great-nephew has covid — no school for ten days. He wasn’t feeling too bad when I talked to his grandma, but we’re keeping fingers crossed. His dad was feeling crappy but had tested negative; also off work for ten days and has to keep testing. Sister-in-law tested negative so far, still worried about her.

I think she has enough sense left to not take the horse paste. Maybe. I hope. I pray.

I don’t want to go to Texas right now, and especially not for a funeral, dammit!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:21:44pm

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:26:50pm

An erupting volcano. Something to see. Something I’d be delighted to see in person. As it happens, there’s a volcano within a 10-mile radius of my house. It hasn’t erupted in thousands of years, but it is not considered dormant.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:36:05pm

re: #52 CleverToad

I know unvaccinated coworkers, and goddamnit even close friends. I worry sick about them. I’ve told them this, so far to no avail. Frustrating as all fuck.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:46:38pm

I visited a guy I’ve known since elementary school at his and his S.O.’s cabin near the shores of Torch Lake, Michigan early last month, I may have posted about it on the Internet.

Anyhoo, my friend got vaccinated as soon as he could. His S.O.? No. Her immediate family (mother especially) is totally gone down the Trump Kool-Aid Train, and she admits this and is ashamed about it. But vaccines? She *listens* to her mother and follows the (in)appropriate rabbit holes on the internet. The night before I left to drive back to Colorado *she* broached the subject herself. “I’m not getting the vaccine. Have you heard that all these people have died from the vaccine?” Well, I said it probably seven times, “That’s not true. That’s not true. That’s not true.” I was kind of dejected after our conversation. My friend brought me to the side out of earshot of his S.O. and he said “You see what I’m dealing with, here?”

So yeah. Stubborn pride and refusal of reason seem to win out even over self preservation in too many instances across our great land. Goddamnit.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:54:58pm

It was bad enough when I read a bunch of Kos diaries about terminally ill white people who refused to sign up for Obamacare because of their hatred of the black man in the White House.

What shocks me more is the exponential number of white Republicans willing to die for the Party goaded into doing that by Republican officeholders, right wing propaganda channels, Hate Radio and Xtian churches.

Thanks to the Republican Party we may get Covid under control in 10-15 years…as the white racist base dies off…if we are lucky…

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sagehen  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:57:59pm

Have I mentioned recently how much I hate the people who voted for Jill Stein? Because Hillary “didn’t earn their vote”?

Sometimes I can forget for a day or two, but then it just comes up again…

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 9:58:11pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

And this, my friend’s S.O. … I’m worried sick about her. I love her. She’s kind of made a man out of my friend, who was kind of well known in my hometown as a malcontent. Her and my friend *need* each other. And one of the last things I said to her before I got in my car and drove back to Colorado was “If you get covid and die you’re going to break my fucking heart.”

That was three weeks ago. She still won’t get vaccinated.

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mmmirele  Oct 3, 2021 • 10:02:21pm

Japan will have a new prime minister this time tomorrow, and his name is Fumio Kishida. He will be Japan’s 100th Prime Minister since the establishment of representative democracy in the late 1880s. He’s a former Foreign Minister, among other things. He plans on dissolving the Diet on October 14 and calling elections for October 31, to get a mandate.

The surprise move, amid widespread expectations for a poll in November, appears to be aimed at exploiting a traditional honeymoon period accorded to new governments and a sharp drop in the number of coronavirus infections.

*snip*

“Kishida’s not wasting any time at all,” Tobias Harris, a senior fellow of the Center for American Progress, said on Twitter.

“October 31 puts the opposition on its heels, takes advantage of a honeymoon in the polls, plus a better chance of lower case numbers.”

Harris added, “If he wins comfortably in the general election and can hold things together well enough to win the upper house elections next year, he’ll have up to three years without an election.”

reuters.com

The previous guy, Yoshihide Suga, who came in a year ago, steadily sunk in popularity because he’s more or less fucked up Japan’s COVID response.

Calling elections quickly is pretty smart, because while COVID infections have dropped sharply, vaccine uptake is still slow and end of the year parties (a huge deal in Japan) are coming up. I once read a Japanese police procedural (in English translation, my Japanese is not that good) where one of the subplots was how one character had screwed up making the reservations for the end of year party and was spending a LOT of time trying to fix his mistake.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 10:14:07pm

At the memorial service I catered today I worked with a gal cook who I haven’t seen for most of the summer (she works on weekends for us during the winter, she’s a damn good cook!) and I found out that she wasn’t vaccinated. “I don’t like mandates, people telling me what to do.” I say “I don’t like that I could die from an aggressive novel respiratory virus!”

“That’s true,” she said to me.

She’s young. I worry sick about her too. And I hope maybe something I said this afternoon gets her thinking.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 3, 2021 • 10:35:36pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

She might be more moved by the idea of kidney disease for the rest of her life. Or being unable to work for a year. Or the other consequences of long covid.

After all, if it kills you, you have nothing else to worry about, but chronic lung disease is life changing.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 3, 2021 • 10:37:34pm

re: #63 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

She might be more moved by the idea of kidney disease for the rest of her life. Or being unable to work for a year. Or the other consequences of long covid.

After all, if it kills you, you have nothing else to worry about, but chronic lung disease is life changing.

I presume lung issues at altitude like in central and western Colorado is not something to be fooled with.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 11:35:11pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 11:37:34pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

I gave my nephew Jack all my Zappa CDs (purchased RykoDisc set) which filled up a shoebox for his high school graduation present.

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teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2021 • 11:39:24pm

re: #64 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I presume lung issues at altitude like in central and western Colorado is not something to be fooled with.

She’s in northern Michigan, that’s the thing.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 3, 2021 • 11:55:50pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

She’s in northern Michigan, that’s the thing.

There is that. But I’m sure cold air, which northern Michigan has in spades in the winter, wouldn’t be very fun either.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2021 • 12:07:34am

Music to help you get to sleep… and have nightmares:

Night of Terror | Chilling Horror Film Music Mix with Scary Ambient Sounds, 6 Scenes in 4K

..

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 12:09:03am

re: #42 teleskiguy

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Kacey Musgraves - Slow Burn

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 12:12:42am

I’ve been thinking about *mortality* tonight. Life is precious. Not enough people know this.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2021 • 1:20:30am

re: #37 William Lewis

How about I imagine being Molly Ringwald’s toy boy instead? Much better.
I’m there from the movie “Pretty in Pink”, who I saw with my friend who has rejected my love interests too many times - her tongue is sharper than any razor known to man.
but - surprise! - I’ll be meeting her in Lost Wages on my 62nd birthday!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 4, 2021 • 1:22:27am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2021 • 1:25:35am

re: #60 mmmirele

Should things come to pass, I’m actually thinking of a Shinto wedding. What do you all think? Here’s a pic:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2021 • 1:26:41am

re: #67 teleskiguy

She’s in northern Michigan, that’s the thing.

Where, exactly in Northern Michigan?

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sagehen  Oct 4, 2021 • 1:47:27am

re: #74 Eric The Fruit Bat

Should things come to pass, I’m actually thinking of a Shinto wedding. What do you all think? Here’s a pic:

[Embedded content]

umm… are either of you Shinto? If not, please skip the religious/cultural appropriation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2021 • 1:49:36am
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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 1:50:45am

re: #75 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’m not telling you.

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:07:10am

What the fuck?!? Asking people on a public internet comments section where specific people live.

Eric The Fruit Bat, you better fuckin’ slow your roll. You’re being very creepy. Here and on Twitter.

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:10:54am

Goddamnit. Fuck. I hate being witness to this nonsense.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:11:49am

re: #79 teleskiguy

What the fuck?!? Asking people on a public internet comments section where specific people live.

Eric The Fruit Bat, you better fuckin’ slow your roll. You’re being very creepy. Here and on Twitter.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:18:54am

re: #79 teleskiguy

Who I choose to interact with on Twitter is all wide open, dude. Someone else needs to take a chill pill - I know I’m in trouble, but what about you, dude?

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:18:58am

re: #81 Eric The Fruit Bat

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:21:08am

re: #82 Eric The Fruit Bat

Are you going to fix this? Or is this public? I don’t mind, either way.

Either Way

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:24:36am

re: #83 teleskiguy

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:26:45am

re: #85 Eric The Fruit Bat

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:27:44am

Okay. Logging out for a bit.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 2:54:32am

Czech Republic has made the international headlines - and not for anything good…..

Andrej Babiš, the billionaire Czech prime minister, is under pressure to explain a convoluted offshore structure he used to finance his purchase of a £13m mansion in the south of France.

The disclosure that Babiš controls a group of overseas companies comes as he contests a general election in the Czech Republic this week - and represents the latest embarrassing turn for a former oligarch who entered politics promising to fight corruption. Babiš is the second-richest man in the Czech Republic with a net worth of £2.7bn but his previous business dealings have provoked public protests and an ongoing clash with the EU.

theguardian.com

We have elections coming up here this Friday and Saturday - Babiš’ supporters will likely not be disillusioned, as their cult-like devotion to the man is perhaps only rivalled by the Trump cult.

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2021 • 3:13:16am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Czech Republic has made the international headlines - and not for anything good…..

theguardian.com

We have elections coming up here this Friday and Saturday - Babiš’ supporters will likely not be disillusioned, as their cult-like devotion to the man is perhaps only rivalled by the Trump cult.

The general feeling with political academics seems to be that voters don’t directly care that politicians lie, but do care if they feel that the politician sold them out. So it depends how it gets interpreted by the public.

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steve_davis  Oct 4, 2021 • 3:46:22am

oh brother. jesse and i now in mexican standoff because something invisible and impure has affected the litterbox, so now she is going to stand next to the box and look at it, and look at me, and look at it, and look at me. and yes, i have done the whole zen garden rake levelling thing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2021 • 4:23:36am

PowerBall jackpot is up to $670M for tonight. Closing in on real money.

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If no one wins the jackpot tonight then the jackpot is really going to skyrocket.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 4:34:03am

Heh. Alabama is spending $400,000 Yankee dollars, sent here for Coronavirus relief, on building prisons. Even better, we are skipping the competitive bidding rules to deal with two pre-selected contractors. Total of $1,300,000,000 to feed the school-to-prison pipeline.

The prison construction bill lawmakers passed carves out an exception to the state’s standard competitive bid process on public works projects for the two new prisons and allows direct negotiations with the contractors.

al.com

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2021 • 4:52:44am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:14:38am

re: #93 ericblair

It’s not a civility issue, it’s a security issue. Any high-profile lawmaker, male or female, should be justifiably freaked. She was trapped in a room with one exit by an unfriendly crowd.

That goes for Sinema, AOC, Murkowski, or Rand Paul. In this atmosphere, people are being killed in the Capitol building.

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jeffreyw  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:26:18am

Possum Gossip

Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:30:16am

re: #95 jeffreyw

Just checked the garden and started the waterers. A 2 lb box turtle was munching one of yesterday’s pepper culls.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:31:27am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

It’s not a civility issue, it’s a security issue. Any high-profile lawmaker, male or female, should be justifiably freaked. She was trapped in a room with one exit by an unfriendly crowd.

That goes for Sinema, AOC, Murkowski, or Rand Paul. In this atmosphere, people are being killed in the Capitol building.

There’s an easy fix that, but she’d have to meet with people who can’t pay $10,000.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:33:02am

re: #97 Belafon

There’s an easy fix that, but she’d have to meet with people who can’t pay $10,000.

I think she’s a POS, but that’s a totally different problem.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:34:25am

Watching the news, Sinema did know enough to get her statement repeated over and over because the media is focused on the Progressives dividing Democrats and not the Democrats like her.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:37:06am

re: #99 Belafon

Watching the news, Sinema did know enough to get her statement repeated over and over because the media is focused on the Progressives dividing Democrats and not the Democrats lake her.

Democrats have a talent for crippling themselves, all without ever actually being wrong.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:44:10am
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:45:05am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:47:25am

re: #102 Belafon

AOC is learning fast. A couple terms of OJT, and she’s going to be the next Pelosi, or more.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 5:50:56am
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:15:38am

Not La Palma or Hawaii…

Red Sunrise from Mt Wilson
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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:24:56am
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:30:22am
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:32:08am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:33:40am

re: #107 Belafon

Computer-assisted pandemic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:35:07am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

Computer-assisted pandemic.

Spamdemic

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:37:36am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:41:27am

Well look who is defending Natasha Sinema!

It’s that little ol’ Nazi Himself!

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:42:49am

re: #112 JOE 🥓

Well look who is defending Natasha Sinema!

It’s that little ol’ Nazi Himself!

God, Stephen Miller is an actual Nazi. I don’t know how anyone can think of him as anything other than pure evil.

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:50:27am

re: #108 Belafon

Russia hits record number of daily COVID-19 deaths for the fifth time this week. Only 32.5% of its people have gotten at least one vaccine shot and only 28% are fully vaccinated. #GetVaccinatedNow

The concern is that the number of people willing to get vaccinated but haven’t is pretty damn small now. The Russian state media has been trying to fuck up the West by pushing out all sorts of anti-vax crap in their foreign operations, but didn’t seem to realize that Russians read that shit too and it blew back. Add to that the sort of conspiratorial mindset that the Kremlin has been too happy to abuse for decades, plus a relaxation of COVID restrictions because of the joke of an election that just happened, and boom.

Now the government has announced all mass events are to be cancelled. Since the election is over, the Kremlin doesn’t have much use for any of them anyways, so there’s that. I assume that this will be enforced arbitrarily based on political needs, like everything else. I can’t think of any way that this will end without everyone getting infected, with the vaccinated doing fine (assuming the other non-Sputnik vaccines actually work), and the rest going full redstate.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:55:40am

re: #62 teleskiguy

At the memorial service I catered today I worked with a gal cook who I haven’t seen for most of the summer (she works on weekends for us during the winter, she’s a damn good cook!) and I found out that she wasn’t vaccinated. “I don’t like mandates, people telling me what to do.” I say “I don’t like that I could die from an aggressive novel respiratory virus!”

“That’s true,” she said to me.

She’s young. I worry sick about her too. And I hope maybe something I said this afternoon gets her thinking.

covid ‘mandates’ are relatively new - many are just announced and not actually in effect yet
so before mandates, what excuse were you using from january through say august?

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danarchy  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:57:10am

re: #112 JOE 🥓

Blanca, an AZ immigrant youth confronts @SenatorSinema inside her classroom, where she teaches @ ASU.

Huh…Sinema teaches in a bathroom?.

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Dangerman  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:57:18am

re: #56 teleskiguy

I visited a guy I’ve known since elementary school at his and his S.O.’s cabin near the shores of Torch Lake, Michigan early last month, I may have posted about it on the Internet.

Anyhoo, my friend got vaccinated as soon as he could. His S.O.? No. Her immediate family (mother especially) is totally gone down the Trump Kool-Aid Train, and she admits this and is ashamed about it. But vaccines? She *listens* to her mother and follows the (in)appropriate rabbit holes on the internet. The night before I left to drive back to Colorado *she* broached the subject herself. “I’m not getting the vaccine. Have you heard that all these people have died from the vaccine?” Well, I said it probably seven times, “That’s not true. That’s not true. That’s not true.” I was kind of dejected after our conversation. My friend brought me to the side out of earshot of his S.O. and he said “You see what I’m dealing with, here?”

So yeah. Stubborn pride and refusal of reason seem to win out even over self preservation in too many instances across our great land. Goddamnit.

‘heard’?
no i haven’t ‘heard’
from who
what’s their source
do they actually know anything?
so you’re taking it on faith

besides if you ‘heard’ and i didnt, how do we know what you ‘heard’ is the right take?

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2021 • 6:57:58am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:01:10am

re: #67 teleskiguy

She’s in northern Michigan, that’s the thing.

Heh. When we say “Up North” we are referring to the northern LOWER peninsula. I assume that you visited the Petoskey/Charlevoix area? The UP will always be the UP. So far north, the folks in the UP have Canadian accents!

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:04:49am

Todd Akin (ex US Rep - R) reportedly died. But was it a legitimate death?

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:06:15am
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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:07:51am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We had some much needed rain overnight, but I’m sure folks out west would love to see rain to help deal with the wildfires and ongoing red flag warnings. Climate change is real, and it’s ongoing.

But that’s not the worldwide crisis that I’m most concerned about at the moment. That would be the ongoing pandemic and the way media outlets report on it.

There’s no both sides to this crisis. You’re either supporting public health, or you’re supporting covid spread. There’s no in-between.

Headlines that tout that X number of people are being fired from jobs because of refusal to adhere to vaccine mandates may sensationalize and give the appearance of widespread refusal.

When you look at the actual percentage of people being fired for cause by refusing to vaccinate, you realize that it’s a fraction of a percentage in many cases. NC health care system: 175 fired. Out of 35,000 people. That’s 0.5%. It’s a rounding error.

We see something similar wherever you look.

These people refusing to vaccinate, and claiming that *this* vaccine somehow violates their religious freedoms, didn’t refuse all the other vaccines they’re required to get to be nurses or doctors or teachers or even military servicemembers.

It’s bullshit, and their refusal to vaccinate should be followed by termination for cause.

Not a single religious group out there objects to vaccines, especially during a pandemic. Not the Roman Catholic Church. Not Islam. Not Judaism. Vaccines preserve and protect life. Refusal to vaccinate endangers everyone around them.

What these people are objecting on is their personal beliefs, which is not a protected class for purposes of vaccinations. States need to eliminate all non-medical exemptions to vaccinations. I’ve got zero tolerance for this BS, and the reason we have an enduring pandemic here in the US is because far too few people vaccinate, far too few people are willing to mask until they’re fully vaccinated, and too many people are fucking sociopaths who don’t care about themselves, anyone else, or how many people they can sicken or die for their freedumb to not mask. These are many of the same people who wouldn’t go anywhere without their guns (photos of which show that they’d be target one by a bad guy with a gun because they have no clue how oblivious they are to their surroundings).

Guns are talisman of safety that do nothing to improve safety and health, but masks are verbotten because right wing lunatics from Trump on down politicized all this from the get-go.

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:09:43am

re: #120 BlueSpotinAL

Todd Akin (ex US Rep - R) reportedly died. But was it a legitimate death?

Mr Legitimate Rape is probably wondering why Heaven is kind of stuffy and overheated and all the angels seem to have pointy sticks.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:10:37am

re: #95 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:11:08am
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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:12:46am

Mandates work.

NYS nursing homes, which is where the pandemic hit hardest in the first wave, had a precariously low vaccination rate until the mandates were enacted.

And they remained low right up to the moment that it became clear that the nursing homes and state would not back down and insisted on vaccinations or else termination letters would be forthcoming.

What happened?

High compliance rates. Like 95%+ compliance rates.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:20:53am

re: #114 ericblair

The concern is that the number of people willing to get vaccinated but haven’t is pretty damn small now. The Russian state media has been trying to fuck up the West by pushing out all sorts of anti-vax crap in their foreign operations, but didn’t seem to realize that Russians read that shit too and it blew back. Add to that the sort of conspiratorial mindset that the Kremlin has been too happy to abuse for decades, plus a relaxation of COVID restrictions because of the joke of an election that just happened, and boom.

Now the government has announced all mass events are to be cancelled. Since the election is over, the Kremlin doesn’t have much use for any of them anyways, so there’s that. I assume that this will be enforced arbitrarily based on political needs, like everything else. I can’t think of any way that this will end without everyone getting infected, with the vaccinated doing fine (assuming the other non-Sputnik vaccines actually work), and the rest going full redstate.

Yep. Karma for spreading antivaxx crap in the West is biting them back so ferociously that you’d swear it had Rabies… And yeah, it’s gonna end in a GQP state scenario, if not worse… And as I recall, Sputnik (the two-dose, not the “Light”) appears to be a decent vaccine, tho there were apparently corners cut during development which means you could theoretically get an Adenovirus infection (but it’s not a biggie unless you have certain underlying conditions).

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:23:33am

re: #117 Dangerman

‘heard’?
no i haven’t ‘heard’
from who
what’s their source
do they actually know anything?
so you’re taking it on faith

besides if you ‘heard’ and i didnt, how do we know what you ‘heard’ is the right take?

At this point, almost all of us know at least one person who has died from the virus. We’ve seen reports of prominent people who have died of it.

More people have been vaccinated than have had covid. If there have been many deaths or bad reactions to the vaccine, most of us should know someone in that category. We should have heard the tales of the more famous. I hear nothing…

Coverup? In the twitterverse? While we have facebook? Give me a break.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:26:43am

re: #128 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

At this point, almost all of us know at least one person who has died from the virus. We’ve seen reports of prominent people who have died of it.

More people have been vaccinated than have had covid. If there have been many deaths or bad reactions to the vaccine, most of us should know someone in that category. We should have heard the tales of the more famous. I hear nothing…

Coverup? In the twitterverse? While we have facebook? Give me a break.

While we have news reports saying “45 people had breakthrough infections” when that number represents 1% of 1% of those vaccinated. They would be reporting moderate deaths from the vaccine nonstop.

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Ming5000  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:29:30am

The Merck antiviral is a gamechanger. Now, the vaxxed can get extra help for breakthroughs. To me, it will change how I behave.

I wonder if antivaxxers will also refuse to take the Merck pill. If the vax is a bridge too far, maybe this weirdo untested pill is as well.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:30:20am

re: #125 Belafon

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Perhaps it’s because Democratic leaders say they want both bills to pass, but then keep bowing to demands from the tiny minorities in their caucuses who demand that the “bipartisan” bill pass before they’ll even consider allowing debate to begin on the reconciliation bill that they’ve all but admitted they intend to kill in breach of the agreement they made back in the spring.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:31:38am

re: #130 Ming5000

The Merck antiviral is a gamechanger. Now, the vaxxed can get extra help for breakthroughs. To me, it will change how I behave.

I wonder if antivaxxers will also refuse to take the Merck pill. If the vax is a bridge too far, maybe this weirdo untested pill is as well.

You’re talking about people who are recommending experimental/EUA treatments (monoclonal antibodies), treatments that are of limited effectiveness (remdesivir), or are explicitly not recommended for treatment of COVID (ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine) rather than getting the proven safe, effective, and fully approved vaccines.

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:32:37am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

I guess I’m missing something, what’s the big deal about an actual billionaire buying a 13 million dollar house in France?

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:32:38am

re: #130 Ming5000

The Merck antiviral is a gamechanger. Now, the vaxxed can get extra help for breakthroughs. To me, it will change how I behave.

I wonder if antivaxxers will also refuse to take the Merck pill. If the vax is a bridge too far, maybe this weirdo untested pill is as well.

Everything I’ve seen so far from the anti-vaxxers can be summed up in a single sentence: “THIS IS JUST IVERMECTIN WITH A DIFFERENT NAME!”

If that’s confusing, it’s because they’re BSing each other that Merck denied ivermectin is the “miracle drug” they claim it is in order to sell a more expensive drug that “does the same thing.”

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:34:12am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Heh. Alabama is spending $400,000 Yankee dollars, sent here for Coronavirus relief, on building prisons. Even better, we are skipping the competitive bidding rules to deal with two pre-selected contractors. Total of $1,300,000,000 to feed the school-to-prison pipeline.

al.com

You missed 3 zeros in your number. 400 million not thousand.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:35:17am

re: #135 JC1

You missed 3 zeros in your number. 400 million not thousand.

Yep. (I thought I had over-000’d the 1.3 Billion.)

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Ming5000  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:35:28am

re: #132 Dopamine Fish

You’re talking about people who are recommending experimental/EUA treatments (monoclonal antibodies), treatments that are of limited effectiveness (remdesivir), or are explicitly not recommended for treatment of COVID (ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine) rather than getting the proven safe, effective, and fully approved vaccines.

I am talking about this:
huffpost.com

Not a replacement for vax, a supplement for breakthroughs. I assume it can be used for the unvaxed, but timing is critical

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:36:50am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Everything I’ve seen so far from the anti-vaxxers can be summed up in a single sentence: “THIS IS JUST IVERMECTIN WITH A DIFFERENT NAME!”

Iframe

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:38:09am

re: #137 Ming5000

I am talking about this:
huffpost.com

Not a replacement for vax, a supplement for breakthroughs. I assume it can be used for the unvaxed, but timing is critical

It has to be used within 5 days of the first symptoms appearing in order to be effective.

Meanwhile, as was demonstrated when DeathSantis opened the monoclonal antibody treatment centers, most of the anti-vaxxers wait until they’re practically on death’s door to admit they might need treatment. And there’s stories aplenty from healthcare workers of anti-vaxxers continuing to deny they’re infected right up to the moment they get tubes jammed down their throats.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:39:02am

re: #132 Dopamine Fish

You’re talking about people who are recommending experimental/EUA treatments (monoclonal antibodies), treatments that are of limited effectiveness (remdesivir), or are explicitly not recommended for treatment of COVID (ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine) rather than getting the proven safe, effective, and fully approved vaccines.

Well, we’re talking about an adult US population that still smokes at 14%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:40:01am

vaccines are seen as some sort of elitist poison and (((cospmopolitan))) world domination scheme

whereas most anything else, be it horse paste, detergent pods or whatever, is seen as “down home horse-doctor medicine” that can be trusted.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:42:04am

re: #133 JC1

I guess I’m missing something, what’s the big deal about an actual billionaire buying a 13 million dollar house in France?

The unusual structuring of the offshore corporations he used and the original source of the money he sent through those offshore corporations. It looks a good deal like some kind of money-laundering operation.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:42:34am

re: #130 Ming5000

The Merck antiviral is a gamechanger. Now, the vaxxed can get extra help for breakthroughs. To me, it will change how I behave.

I wonder if antivaxxers will also refuse to take the Merck pill. If the vax is a bridge too far, maybe this weirdo untested pill is as well.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:42:59am

re: #139 Targetpractice

It has to be used within 5 days of the first symptoms appearing in order to be effective.

Meanwhile, as was demonstrated when DeathSantis opened the monoclonal antibody treatment centers, most of the anti-vaxxers wait until they’re practically on death’s door to admit they might need treatment. And there’s stories aplenty from healthcare workers of anti-vaxxers continuing to deny they’re infected right up to the moment they get tubes jammed down their throats.

If a lot of people don’t have access to affordable testing, they aren’t going to make the monoclonal window. The first AL doc-shop declined to test Wife even after they had tested me positive. Her reported symptoms didn’t impress them enough. She tested positive at the next doc.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:44:32am

re: #131 Targetpractice

Perhaps it’s because Democratic leaders say they want both bills to pass, but then keep bowing to demands from the tiny minorities in their caucuses who demand that the “bipartisan” bill pass before they’ll even consider allowing debate to begin on the reconciliation bill that they’ve all but admitted they intend to kill in breach of the agreement they made back in the spring.

If they had bowed to demands, though, there would have been a vote last week.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:46:05am

re: #139 Targetpractice

Most of the anti-vaxxers wait until they’re practically on death’s door to admit they might need treatment. And there’s stories aplenty from healthcare workers of anti-vaxxers continuing to deny they’re infected right up to the moment they get tubes jammed down their throats.

This. An early stage treatment will do fuck all for people who refuse to believe they are sick until it’s too late.

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steve_davis  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:47:59am

re: #145 Belafon

If they had bowed to demands, though, there would have been a vote last week.

and the breakthrough infections leading to hospitalization are, as I recall, almost exclusively the elderly, those who were immunocompromised, those who have some morbidity. I’ve actually stopped wearing a mask in class, though I still wear it in situations where I’m around random people.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:48:24am

re: #133 JC1

I guess I’m missing something, what’s the big deal about an actual billionaire buying a 13 million dollar house in France?

His 11 year old son bought it

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ericblair  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:49:07am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

The unusual structuring of the offshore corporations he used and the original source of the money he sent through those offshore corporations. It looks a good deal like some kind of money-laundering operation.

And tax fraud, and asset hiding, possible embezzlement, and past or future bribery. You want to buy a foreign property out in the open, with clear ownership and recognizing all the liabilities, have at it. This, is not that.

Peskov, the Kremlin’s Mouth of Sauron, called the US “the main tax lagoon for the entire world” because of it. He’s not entirely wrong, and btw Russians are up to their tits in it, so watch what you ask for, asshole.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:49:22am

re: #145 Belafon

If they had bowed to demands, though, there would have been a vote last week.

There was a vote scheduled, as per an agreement made with the corporate Dems. Pelosi even drug it out for hours, going so far to reschedule it for the following morning, before pulling it because she lacked the numbers needed to pass it. And instead of working with the progressive caucus to get their support, she and Schumer huddled in a room in the Senate basement with Manchin and Sinema in the hope they could come up with another empty promise that would get the vote to go through as scheduled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:49:57am

Remember that for book keeping purposes, different parts of a company “sell” goods to each other, in the sense that the costs are apportioned from one department to another, from say the factory to the warehouse.

This little trick is highly important when dealing with international companies with differing tax rates so that the actual money that is earned from outside is generated in a location with the lowest possible taxes.

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:52:04am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

The unusual structuring of the offshore corporations he used and the original source of the money he sent through those offshore corporations. It looks a good deal like some kind of money-laundering operation.

Okay, that makes sense. And for politicians it makes sense that there should be transparency. If he’s jumping through hoops like that over relatively petty cash amounts, I wonder what else he’s hiding.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:52:12am

re: #148 Eventual Carrion

His 11 year old son bought it

Kids these days….

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:54:51am

re: #149 ericblair

And tax fraud, and asset hiding, possible embezzlement, and past or future bribery. You want to buy a foreign property out in the open, with clear ownership and recognizing all the liabilities, have at it. This, is not that.

Peskov, the Kremlin’s Mouth of Sauron, called the US “the main tax lagoon for the entire world” because of it. He’s not entirely wrong, and btw Russians are up to their tits in it, so watch what you ask for, asshole.

To this day, the source of the money Babiš used to ultimately create his agrochemical empire is surrounded by mystery. There’s rumors of Russian mob money, Czech organized crime proceeds, hell, even a tangential connection to the murder of an infamous Czech mafiosi. The 1990’s were basically the Wild West here in Czech Republic, and a lot of people with dubious ideas and even shadier connections became very, very wealthy by the end of that decade.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:54:58am

re: #153 Barefoot Grin

Kids these days….

Laundering his newspaper route.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:56:16am

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

I always assume anyone who is very rich is probably involved in some shady dealings somewhere along the line.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:57:39am

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

I always assume anyone who is very rich is probably involved in some shady dealings somewhere along the line.

Almost any rich person in Russia is or was at some point. There is no way to make an honest fortune in that political and economic environment. It is hard enough to make an honest living, and to reach the upper echelons, you have to grease a lot of palms.

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 7:58:36am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

The unusual structuring of the offshore corporations he used and the original source of the money he sent through those offshore corporations. It looks a good deal like some kind of money-laundering operation.

I read the guardian article and it even states that what he did wasn’t illegal and he did it before ever entering politics. So the only issue I see is that he didn’t disclose ownership of the property if it was required. This seems like a mountain out of a mole hill situation.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:01:08am

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

I always assume anyone who is very rich is probably involved in some shady dealings somewhere along the line.

Not always the rich. To this day, I still wonder how in the hell

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:03:20am

re: #158 JC1

I read the guardian article and it even states that what he did wasn’t illegal and he did it before ever entering politics. So the only issue I see is that he didn’t disclose ownership of the property if it was required. This seems like a mountain out of a mole hill situation.

He’s campaigning on an anti-corruption schtick. Also doesn’t help that he’s being investigated by the Czech Anti-Organized Crime Police, the European Commission, and the Slovak criminal justice system….all for massive fraud, tax evasion, subsidies abuse, etc., etc.

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:05:18am

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

I always assume anyone who is very rich is probably involved in some shady dealings somewhere along the line.

Depends on how you define shady. The few super wealthy people I know spend a lot of money on the best lawyers and accountants to stay just within the lines of the law. Leona Helmsley type crap has negative long term value.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:06:23am

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

The saying goes, Behind Every Great Fortune is a Great Crime. Or series of crimes. And if it is a crime those assholes will make sure the law gets changed so it isn’t.

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:08:13am

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

He’s campaigning on an anti-corruption schtick. Also doesn’t help that he’s being investigated by the Czech Anti-Organized Crime Police, the European Commission, and the Slovak criminal justice system….all for massive fraud, tax evasion, subsidies abuse, etc., etc.

I don’t know anything about the guy, but from your posts it seems that he’s as shady as f*ck. I was just commenting on that particular real estate deal. If his purpose was privacy/anonymity rather than fraud, how would have his actions differed?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:13:14am

re: #163 JC1

I don’t know anything about the guy, but from your posts it seems that he’s as shady as f*ck. I was just commenting on that particular real estate deal. If his purpose was privacy/anonymity rather than fraud, how would have his actions differed?

To be fair, his actions likely wouldn’t have differed, at least not by much. But seeing as he’s up to his eyebrows in all sorts of dubious shenanigans, it instantly raises questions. It also doesn’t help that a few hours ago, he:

a) denied he owned the property

b) admitted he owned the property

c) denied he owned it again

d) said he got a great price on the property and was happy with it

all within the space of about 90 seconds, LOL. He’s a pathological liar, who’s simply incapable of telling the truth.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:13:24am

re: #161 JC1

Depends on how you define shady. The few super wealthy people I know spend a lot of money on the best lawyers and accountants to stay just within the lines of the law. Leona Helmsley type crap has negative long term value.

Only the little people pay taxes.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:14:47am

Good morning from Twinky Flats Idaho. :-)

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CleverToad  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:18:45am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

It’s not a civility issue, it’s a security issue. Any high-profile lawmaker, male or female, should be justifiably freaked. She was trapped in a room with one exit by an unfriendly crowd.

That goes for Sinema, AOC, Murkowski, or Rand Paul. In this atmosphere, people are being killed in the Capitol building.

True for both security and civility issues. Also for really, really bad optics. Trapping someone in a bathroom stall AND FILMING IT is way over all sorts of lines. It doesn’t matter how mad or how desperate the protesters were, it’s going to backfire. It makes people who can’t stand her have to sympathize; it gives her cover for her next contrarian moves; and it sets a very nasty precedent. Look to see the thugs on the right adopt this to harass other (usually female) targets, and justify themselves by saying “The Left does it!”

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:26:38am

In case it wasn’t already crystal clear what their end goal is:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:31:16am

re: #168 Dopamine Fish

Steve Bannon said this morning he will have 20K “shock troops” on standby. “We control this country,” he added. “We have to start acting like it.”

This is less about politics as it about sociopathic personality disorders.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:31:56am

re: #168 Dopamine Fish

In case it wasn’t already crystal clear what their end goal is:

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Why hasn’t this clown been arrested?

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:32:44am

Also,’ just a bit of an oddity. When I cracked my first egg, it was double yolked.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:33:31am

re: #168 Dopamine Fish

In case it wasn’t already crystal clear what their end goal is:

Now, don’t want anyone getting the wrong idea, but I’m just sayin’…..

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:35:19am
An 18-year-old California woman was scheduled to be taken off of life support over the weekend after a school resource officer shot her in reported violation of the district’s use of force policy. Manuela “Mona” Rodriguez, a new mother, was not enrolled at the Millikan High School campus she was shot near, and the school resource officer, who is employed by the Long Beach Unified School District, does not work for any police department, CNN reported.

Chris Eftychiou, a spokesman for the Long Beach Unified School District, told CNN in a statement that the officer was responding to an “off-campus” incident last Monday when he spotted a fight between an 18-year-old woman and a 15-year-old girl. He watched Rodriguez and two other people try to flee in a car and fired as it sped off. Rodriguez was the front-seat passenger in the car. Her partner drove the vehicle, and his 16-year-old brother was also a passenger in the car, CNN reported.

“According to a use-of-force policy from Long Beach Unified’s school safety office, officers are not permitted to fire at a moving vehicle,” Los Angeles Times writers Richard Winton and Hayley Smith wrote. “Firearms may be discharged only when reasonably necessary and justified under the circumstances, such as self-defense and the protection of others, the policy states. The policy also bars shooting at fleeing suspects.”

Iran Rodriguez, Manuela’s older brother, called for the officer, whose name has not been released, to be prosecuted. Iran spoke at a news conference for the family to announce the devastating news of Manuela’s state on Friday. “I raised that little girl,” he said. “The officer needs to be charged.”

Was he a good guy with a gun or not?

dailykos.com

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:35:32am

The QAssholes are making their moves to infiltrate local government.

Trump ‘photographer’ candidate scrubs QAnon from website as conspiracy group ‘infiltrates’ local races

A QAnon “true believer” who is running for mayor in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, has scrubbed references to the conspiracy group from his campaign merchandise website.

Gene Ho, a minor MAGA celebrity who claims to have served as former president Donald Trump’s personal campaign photographer, has repeatedly endorsed the QAnon conspiracy theory over the years — even emceeing the group’s “Red Pill Roadshow” last year. But since launching his mayoral campaign, Ho has tried to distance himself from QAnon and run as a “milquetoast MAGA candidate” — removing items from the site such as a mug bearing the slogan “WWG1WGA” (Where We Go 1, We Go All) and a T-shirt saying “Get WQke,” according to a report from Rolling Stone.

rawstory.com

And I used to love to go to Myrtle Beach when I was a kid… 😢

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jeffreyw  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:35:45am

re: #166 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Good morning from Twinky Flats Idaho. :-)

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Nice Plate!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:37:43am
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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:45:27am

re: #175 jeffreyw

Nice Plate!

Thanks. It was quite tasty too. :-)

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:48:28am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:49:05am

Is Facebook down? Or is that just wishful thinking?

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:51:19am

re: #179 The Pie Overlord!

Down for me on PC but not mobile

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:52:49am

re: #168 Dopamine Fish

In case it wasn’t already crystal clear what their end goal is:

No, Steve, you don’t “control” this country.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:52:50am

re: #179 The Pie Overlord!

Is Facebook down? Or is that just wishful thinking?

Down for me.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:53:08am

re: #179 The Pie Overlord!

Is Facebook down? Or is that just wishful thinking?

downdetector.com shows a major spike in Facebook outage reports.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:54:34am
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:54:41am

Can someone explain these parts at the end of a twitter link that I copy?

ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

force_isolation=true

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:55:28am

re: #107 Belafon

Singapore appears to have an explosion in cases due to delta, with the highest level of morbidity and mortality since the start of the pandemic. Their current mortality rate is still far less than the United States. Several weeks ago I watched a report (somewhere on CNN) which explained that although they had access to mRNA vaccines, many citizens preferred Sinovac — which was less effective before delta struck. They are among the highest vaccinated population in the world.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:55:31am

re: #179 The Pie Overlord!

Is Facebook down? Or is that just wishful thinking?

re: #180 Rightwingconspirator

Down for me on PC but not mobile

re: #182 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Down for me.

re: #183 JOE 🥓

downdetector.com shows a major spike in Facebook outage reports.

Dammit, was just gonna link downdetector.com
And are you guys getting DNS errors on fb, i.e. “Server Not Found” or “We’re having trouble finding that site”?

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:55:49am

@EricBoehlert

GOP is **filibustering debt ceiling vote**
it’s absolutely mind boggling
guarantee that won’t be message of press coverage

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:55:58am

FB down for me.

My life is empty

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:57:10am

re: #187 Teukka

DNS

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:57:17am

re: #187 Teukka

Dammit, was just gonna link downdetector.com
And are you guys getting DNS errors on fb, i.e. “Server Not Found” or “We’re having trouble finding that site”?

Server not found in Firefox.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:57:23am

re: #188 jaunte

@EricBoehlert

GOP is **filibustering debt ceiling vote**
it’s absolutely mind boggling
guarantee that won’t be message of press coverage

Dems in Disarray: Key Senators refuse to budge on critical Debt Ceiling vote.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:58:01am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

“Legislative Gamesmanship”
—NYT

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:58:05am

re: #187 Teukka

Dammit, was just gonna link downdetector.com
And are you guys getting DNS errors on fb, i.e. “Server Not Found” or “We’re having trouble finding that site”?

Also, what is Mark Zuckerberg trying to hide? 🤔

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:58:45am

re: #190 Rightwingconspirator

DNS

re: #191 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Server not found in Firefox.

DNS for me here as well (FireFox).

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2021 • 8:59:44am

re: #108 Belafon

Those are the official numbers — and totally bogus. The real numbers throughout the pandemic are allegedly 3 to 4 times as high. But it is a sign that there are serious problems there that they have allowed the official death count to creep up.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:00:34am

Pure fascism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:02:58am

re: #197 No Malarkey!

Pure fascism.

They know what they can get away with and just keep turning up the heat and letting it all be mainstreamed and normalized.

I hate to say that it seems to be working.

To stop them we would have to report to their methods at which point we have lost, too.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:03:12am

re: #195 Teukka

DNS for me here as well (FireFox).

Just a hunch, but down due to law enforcement action?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:04:22am

re: #199 Teukka

Just a hunch, but down due to law enforcement action?

too many possible causes

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:04:56am

re: #168 Dopamine Fish

In case it wasn’t already crystal clear what their end goal is:

He calls his show “the War Room”. Don’t bet that’s a metaphor.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:05:07am

Andrew Yang says he’s ‘breaking up with the Democratic Party’ to have bigger impact

He still has the sads because he didn’t get elected to fuck up New York City even with the press endlessly kissing his ass.

nydailynews.com

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:05:33am

Also, Instagram down..

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retired cynic  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:05:41am

Embedded music videos have started disappearing when I click on them. It happens immediately, so I can’t get to share link so I can listen to them elsewhere.

Mac Big Sur, Safari 15.0. I believe the change in Safari is the issue, because it happened when I updated that a few days ago.

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:05:43am

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:05:54am

re: #194 Teukka

Also, what is Mark Zuckerberg trying to hide? 🤔

“Lucy, you got a lot of ‘splainin to do…”

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:05:56am

re: #199 Teukka

Just a hunch, but down due to law enforcement action?

Extremely unlikely, IMHO. Could be a hack, but most likely a configuration screw up. Wouldn’t want to be the dude who made that mistake.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:06:50am
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:06:51am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know what they can get away with and just keep turning up the heat and letting it all be mainstreamed and normalized.

I hate to say that it seems to be working.

To stop them we would have to report to their methods at which point we have lost, too.

The North won by resorting to the South’s tactics.

20,000 shock troops spread across the country isn’t all that many, but we’re going to have to react to them, mainly by showing up in such large numbers that they have to leave.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:06:55am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:07:15am

re: #197 No Malarkey!

20K “troops” would allow him to put 200 in each of the 100 most populous cities in America.

Heck, even if we go 50 most populous, we’re still talking only 400 guys per city. Not that intimidating IMO.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:07:40am

re: #181 Belafon

No, Steve, you don’t “control” this country.

Don’t bet he and a bunch of others won’t try.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:08:03am

re: #210 No Malarkey!

Didn’t some of the folks who got arrested outright say the intent was to kill legislators?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:09:36am

re: #209 Belafon

The North won by resorting to the South’s tactics.

20,000 shock troops spread across the country isn’t all that many, but we’re going to have to react to them, mainly by showing up in such large numbers that they have to leave.

These people benefit from sowing and spreading chaos. That is their secret weapon.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:10:35am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is less about politics as it about sociopathic personality disorders.

All too often that makes no difference.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:12:52am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

20K “troops” would allow him to put 200 in each of the 100 most populous cities in America.

Heck, even if we go 50 most populous, we’re still talking only 400 guys per city. Not that intimidating IMO.

He and his ilk control my county and my state, and they didn’t have to fire a shot.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:15:21am

re: #127 Teukka

Yep. Karma for spreading antivaxx crap in the West is biting them back so ferociously that you’d swear it had Rabies… And yeah, it’s gonna end in a GQP state scenario, if not worse… And as I recall, Sputnik (the two-dose, not the “Light”) appears to be a decent vaccine, tho there were apparently corners cut during development which means you could theoretically get an Adenovirus infection (but it’s not a biggie unless you have certain underlying conditions).

Isn’t the problem with production and not development?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:16:24am

re: #215 Decatur Deb

All too often that makes no difference.

I have a gay Republican buddy who is just like that: contrarian, cantankerous and ready to to take on anything he sees as “accepted policy”.

His parents were radical leftist college professors, so his way of rebelling against them was to be clean-cut and conservative. Yet he somehow still reconciles his Conservative faith with the fact that he is married to a man who he would not be able to be legally married to if the GOP had its way.

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JC1  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:16:35am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

20K “troops” would allow him to put 200 in each of the 100 most populous cities in America.

Heck, even if we go 50 most populous, we’re still talking only 400 guys per city. Not that intimidating IMO.

I wonder how many police officers would go along and cheer them on, or outright join them. Lots of anti vax MAGAts in various police departments.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:17:30am

re: #219 JC1

I wonder how many police officers would go along and cheer them on, or outright join them. Lots of anti vax MAGAts in various police departments.

I suppose they may add up, but as a % it’s a clear minority.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:18:42am

re: #219 JC1

I wonder how many police officers would go along and cheer them on, or outright join them. Lots of anti vax MAGAts in various police departments.

My city’s last Chief of Police named his kid Nathan Bedford. When he recently retired, he went to work for the school board.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:19:30am

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t some of the folks who got arrested outright say the intent was to kill legislators?

I have no doubt they would have if they had gotten hold of them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:20:16am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:20:24am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a gay Republican buddy who is just like that: contrarian, cantankerous and ready to to take on anything he sees as “accepted policy”.

His parents were radical leftist college professors, so his way of rebelling against them was to be clean-cut and conservative. Yet he somehow still reconciles his Conservative faith with the fact that he is married to a man who he would not be able to be legally married to if the GOP had its way.

And when the corrupted Supreme Court kills same sex marriage he’ll blame that on Joe.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:22:12am

re: #204 retired cynic

Embedded music videos have started disappearing when I click on them. It happens immediately, so I can’t get to share link so I can listen to them elsewhere.

Mac Big Sur, Safari 15.0. I believe the change in Safari is the issue, because it happened when I updated that a few days ago.

Same thing happening here as well. Can’t get any embedded videos since the Safari update.

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retired cynic  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:23:04am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:24:10am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:26:19am

re: #216 Decatur Deb

He and his ilk control my county and my state, and they didn’t have to fire a shot.

Same.

But they aren’t concerned about the red states that already in their back pocket.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:26:20am

re: #183 JOE 🥓

WhatsApp is also down, at least in my neck of the woods.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:27:08am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

WhatsApp is also down, at least in my neck of the woods.

Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and Messenger are down.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:27:53am

Looking like a backbone went down somewhere.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:28:01am

downdetector.com showing LOTS of sites are down besides the Facebook ones.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:28:07am

re: #230 Teukka

Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and Messenger are down.

All are owned by FB. The cause is no doubt the same across the board.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:28:29am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know what they can get away with and just keep turning up the heat and letting it all be mainstreamed and normalized.

I hate to say that it seems to be working.

To stop them we would have to report to their methods at which point we have lost, too.

Personally, I have no problem with that. You don’t fight people like Bannon with tea and cookies.

It’s the Chicago Way.

The Chicago Way - The Untouchables (2/10) Movie CLIP (1987) HD

That is the path to victory.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:28:37am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

WhatsApp is also down, at least in my neck of the woods.

Whatsapp is down for me, too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:29:14am

re: #232 JOE 🥓

downdetector.com showing LOTS of sites are down besides the Facebook ones.

Wow. A lot more than just the FB sites. Hope LGF is spared.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:29:25am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:29:32am

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

Same.

But they aren’t concerned about the red states that already in their back pocket.

That frees up their numbers, and gives them cross-border sanctuaries. I’m not saying they would win, but in the right conditions they might be tempted to give it a shot with their 20K cannon-fodder.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:29:39am

re: #179 The Pie Overlord!

Is Facebook down? Or is that just wishful thinking?

Down for me on both computer and IPhone. And here I was preparing to insult my brain dead Trump cult FB friend!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:31:13am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

That frees up their numbers, and gives them cross-border sanctuaries. I’m not saying they would win, but in the right conditions they might be tempted to give it a shot with their 20K cannon-fodder.

Also, most big cities, even in red states, track Democratic.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:31:31am

re: #232 JOE 🥓

downdetector.com showing LOTS of sites are down besides the Facebook ones.

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow. A lot more than just the FB sites. Hope LGF is spared.

Yep. Looks like some backbone ate itself… downdetector.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:32:46am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, most big cities, even in red states, track Democratic.

I like living in a strategic hamlet.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:32:48am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow. A lot more than just the FB sites. Hope LGF is spared.

Holy shit, that’s a big old chunk outta the internet right there.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:34:14am

re: #63 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

She might be more moved by the idea of kidney disease for the rest of her life. Or being unable to work for a year. Or the other consequences of long covid.

After all, if it kills you, you have nothing else to worry about, but chronic lung disease is life changing.

Blood clots in the lungs ain’t no fun.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:34:22am

YouTube is working here in Czech Republic, at least for now.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:35:03am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

YouTube is working here in Czech Republic, at least for now.

Working here on this side of the pond, as well. Right now, I have:
* Slack
* LGF
* YouTube
* New World (Mrs. Fish is playing in the front room)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:37:33am

re: #246 Dopamine Fish

Working here on this side of the pond, as well. Right now, I have:
* Slack
* LGF
* YouTube
* New World (Mrs. Fish is playing in the front room)

Nairobi-based friend of mine said that damn near everything anyone uses is down. Yikes, what a mess.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:38:16am

Did somebody trip over a cord?

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:38:31am

re: #248 Barefoot Grin

Did somebody trip over a cord?

The janitor unplugged the Internet to plug the vacuum cleaner in.

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:40:35am
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Nojay UK  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:41:41am

re: #249 Dopamine Fish

The janitor unplugged the Internet to plug the vacuum cleaner in.

It never gets old.

Here in Blighty most things seem to be still accessible (I don’t do Facebook or twitter).

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:41:44am

re: #248 Barefoot Grin

Did somebody trip over a cord?

re: #249 Dopamine Fish

The janitor unplugged the Internet to plug the vacuum cleaner in.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:42:54am

My first thought was “when this all comes back on Taiwan will belong to the PRC.” Or course there’s no logical connection, but that’s where my brain went.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:43:04am

re: #66 teleskiguy

I gave my nephew Jack all my Zappa CDs (purchased RykoDisc set) which filled up a shoebox for his high school graduation present.

My favorite:

Fillmore East, June 1971 - Frank Zappa, live:
Not for children.
This Frank Zappa driven Mothers live concert is the funny story of a well known pop rock band of the 1960’s traveling to their next gig.

(Having worked in the music industry in the 1970s & 1980s - this album is so true, it’s funny)

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:46:44am

When the Internet dies, the last message will be: “Florida man…..”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:46:59am

re: #224 JOE 🥓

And when the corrupted Supreme Court kills same sex marriage he’ll blame that on Joe.

He tried to tell me that gay marriage was irrelevant to him, it was just his husband who wanted to tie the knot.

He is also anti-mask.

Now last year in the spring, his husband was in a bad car accident, had several ribs crushed and had to be put on a respirator. Thanks to masking, there was an ICU bed open for his husband.

And thanks to gay marriage, he was able to visit his hubby in the hospital.

No thanks to my ex-GF, likewise from my University of Arizona days, who went on to become an Arizona assistant AG and went on to draft most of the anti-gay marriage initiatives in that state.

But that’s another story…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:48:08am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I have no problem with that. You don’t fight people like Bannon with tea and cookies.

It’s the Chicago Way.

[Embedded content]

That is the path to victory.

Works fine on film, but once we lower ourselves to that, we are all fucked and there’s no going back.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:50:21am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I have no problem with that. You don’t fight people like Bannon with tea and cookies.

It’s the Chicago Way.

[Embedded content]

That is the path to victory.

A lot of the reason they’re getting away with stuff is people are generally differential to others. That’s what we have to stop doing for now. When they try to do something, we have to stand in front of them and say no.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:54:02am

re: #253 Barefoot Grin

My first thought was “when this all comes back on Taiwan will belong to the PRC.” Or course there’s no logical connection, but that’s where my brain went.

My thoughts (in no particular order):
o Feds are raiding FB because of the revelations in the 60 minutes interview regarding 2021-01-06.
o Some authoritarian country decides to block FB entirely, fucks it up and it goes global
o Disgruntled employee has had enough
o FB high-level execs decides to shut down and run to some country.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:54:09am

re: #258 Belafon

A lot of the reason they’re getting away with stuff is people are generally differential to others. That’s what we have to stop doing for now. When they try to do something, we have to stand in front of them and say no.

Republicans can trash talk all they want, but the moment a Democrat talks down to or reams out a Republican, they are a “loose cannon who should resign immediately.”

Double standards fucking suck, don’t they?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:55:26am

re: #259 Teukka

My thoughts (in no particular order):
o Feds are raiding FB because of the revelations in the 60 minutes interview regarding 2021-01-06.
o Some authoritarian country decides to block FB entirely, fucks it up and it goes global
o Disgruntled employee has had enough
o< em>FB high-level execs decides to shut down and run to some country.

My first thought: Somebody’s idiot nephew got an internship.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:55:41am

re: #113 Dopamine Fish

God, Stephen Miller is an actual Nazi. I don’t know how anyone can think of him as anything other than pure evil.

Stephen Miller is the Reinhard Heydrich of the Trump administration.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:57:57am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Works fine on film, but once we lower ourselves to that, we are all fucked and there’s no going back.

Yeah, there’s no going back. There are times when force must be used against those who seek to imperil our democracy. You cannot deal with people like Bannon using reason or through niceties.

They must be crushed. Ruthlessly.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:58:10am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

My first thought: Somebody’s idiot nephew got an internship.

Added to the list, along with
o “The janitor unplugged the Internet to plug the vacuum cleaner in.”
Also,
o System down for scrubbing of all the bad internal documents

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 9:58:25am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

Republicans can trash talk all they want, but the moment a Democrat talks down to or reams out a Republican, they are a “loose cannon who should resign immediately.”

Double standards fucking suck, don’t they?

It’s why MLK had people dress in their Sunday best and march and wouldn’t allow anyone to step out of line.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:00:12am

re: #265 Belafon

It’s why MLK had people dress in their Sunday best and march and wouldn’t allow anyone to step out of line.

Love it when you talk organization, planning, and discipline.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:01:23am

re: #265 Belafon

It’s why MLK had people dress in their Sunday best and march and wouldn’t allow anyone to step out of line.

Bingo. Imagine the negative press AOC would get if she say, screamed at Jim Jordan and called him an asshole.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:01:26am

re: #265 Belafon

It’s why MLK had people dress in their Sunday best and march and wouldn’t allow anyone to step out of line.

Which Bayard Rustin impressed on him.

The same Bayard Rustin who was kicked out of the civil rights movement because he was gay.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:03:27am

Just noticed my iPhone is stalling when I’m checking for software/app updates…

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:04:57am

re: #269 JOE 🥓

Just noticed my iPhone is stalling when I’m checking for software/app updates…

Looking at the top page of downdetector, it seems more than just FB has problems, just from the spread my hunch is that routers got fouled in terms of routing tables, or that some important network infrastructure fell over.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:05:45am

I just woke up….. Is FaceBook burying the bodies now?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:06:51am

China say that its claim to the sea is based both on the Law of the Sea Convention and its so-called ‘nine-dash’ line. This line extends for 2,000 kilometers from the Chinese mainland, encompassing over half of the sea. However in an historic decision in 2016, the international tribunal in The Hague ruled against part of China’s claims to the sea.

The US, UK and Australia routinely conduct freedom of navigation operations (or FONOPs) to challenge what Washington calls “attempts by coastal states to unlawfully restrict access to the seas”.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:09:07am

I’ll take “Consequences of Brexit” for $500:

British expats are said to be leaving Spain “in droves”, with numerous retirees abandoning the popular area of Costa del Sol as a result of Brexit.

Travel experts have noticed a decrease in the number of Brits in the country due to more stringent immigration rules brought in after the UK left the European Union.

Robert Barnhardt, a property expert who runs an estate agency in the seaside town of Fuengirola, said many retired people are now starting to sell their properties.

Due to Brexit, UK citizens can only visit Spain without a visa for up to three months for tourism and businesses purposes.

mirror.co.uk

Something, something, leopards eating faces…..

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:09:13am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:10:06am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Works fine on film, but once we lower ourselves to that, we are all fucked and there’s no going back.

Could Hitler have been defeated by passive resistance? Peaceful marches? Different approaches for different situations — but bringing a knife to a gun fight, except in a Quentin Tarantino film, usually is unsuccessful.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:12:13am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

[Embedded content]

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

AKA “Flashpoint”, “Tinderbox” . Then dozens of Chinese military aircraft flying in Taiwan’s ADIZ. Are they testing us or pushing back?

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:12:49am

re: #270 Teukka

Looking at the top page of downdetector, it seems more than just FB has problems, just from the spread my hunch is that routers got fouled in terms of routing tables, or that some important network infrastructure fell over.

If it’s DNS, as some people have been suggesting, that would suggest that a major DNS provider may have pushed a bad configuration. That’s going to take time to flush.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:14:10am

re: #275 Hecuba’s daughter

Could Hitler have been defeated by passive resistance? Peaceful marches? Different approaches for different situations — but bringing a knife to a gun fight, except in a Quentin Tarantino film, usually is unsuccessful.

The Wiemar communists and other left groups took street violence as far as it would go. That only fed the reaction.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:14:16am

re: #275 Hecuba’s daughter

Could Hitler have been defeated by passive resistance? Peaceful marches? Different approaches for different situations — but bringing a knife to a gun fight, except in a Quentin Tarantino film, usually is unsuccessful.

Exactly. You cannot use passive resistance against the forces of evil. You have to use force, as unpleasant as it is.

Bannon and his ilk are a direct threat to the American system of governance and the Constitution itself. And the Constitution allows for defending the country against “domestic enemies”….which Bannon most assuredly is.

How would George Washington have dealt with Steve Bannon? I’m pretty confident that answer would involve a short length of rope and a sturdy tree.

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:14:31am

re: #273 Dr Lizardo

I’ll take “Consequences of Brexit” for $500:

mirror.co.uk

Something, something, leopards eating faces…..

No doubt a lot of old, angry Brexitieers whining about how they planned to retire to Spain until they got told that actions have consequences.

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wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:15:07am

Downward Wolf.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:15:22am

re: #277 Dopamine Fish

If it’s DNS, as some people have been suggesting, that would suggest that a major DNS provider may have pushed a bad configuration. That’s going to take time to flush.

Could this at all be related to the problem of the other day when some certification went bad?

Another possibility is a major attack by Russian hackers to bring down our systems.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:16:22am

re: #280 Targetpractice

No doubt a lot of old, angry Brexitieers whining about how they planned to retire to Spain until they got told that actions have consequences.

Of course. They never imagined there would be an consequences for their actions.

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:16:22am

re: #277 Dopamine Fish

If it’s DNS, as some people have been suggesting, that would suggest that a major DNS provider may have pushed a bad configuration. That’s going to take time to flush.

Or that some authoritarian country tried to block by poisoning the DNS locally, but it escaped into the wild. And yeah, it’s gonna take hours if not days to flush.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:17:13am

re: #282 Hecuba’s daughter

Could this at all be related to the problem of the other day when some certification went bad?

Another possibility is a major attack by Russian hackers to bring down our systems.

No, this is not related to the certificate errors from the other day. (Side question: Did LetsEncrypt ever resolve that, or did they say “tough noogies”?) This is on a more fundamental level than that problem, and is a much bigger deal - and, correspondingly, much more of a pain in the ass to clean up.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:17:35am

re: #284 Teukka

Or that some authoritarian country tried to block by poisoning the DNS locally, but it escaped into the wild. And yeah, it’s gonna take hours if not days to flush.

Heh, never thought of that.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:18:05am

I have a good friend that writes for a Chinese language newspaper in the UK, and he stated that the Pandora papers are banned by the Chinese…

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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:18:35am

I’ve been thinking about how activists approached Sinema yesterday and I am still in agreement with what they did. They didn’t threaten her, beyond saying stuff relating to making sure she doesn’t get elected again. They didn’t bang on the stall door or say one thing that could be considered violent, hateful or threatening. They told the truth to a person who rarely spends time doing senate business in her own state. Maybe if she could make the time for the people who elected her that might have helped. These were college students who believed in her and she basically told them all to fuck off. IMO this needs to happen more, not less. A public restroom is where Sinema went to hide. She washed her hands and went into a stall, hiding. No one answers their calls in her local office, no email responses, no responses at all. So are they supposed to just be nice and polite and then what? The video shows nothing awful happening, no threats, no violence and not one open carry idiot with a flag on their shirt to be seen anywhere. It wouldn’t matter if they confronted her in the bathroom or the parking lot, the usual suspects will make them into antifaillegalsterrorizingamerica!!!!

She could have defused this by stopping for a few minutes and not being a smart ass jerk. She’s there to collect a paycheck no one makes her work for. This may likely backfire, but it’s because of our fucking stupid media and social media being sociopathic, not these young people fighting for their future. You will NEVER win this war without crossing some boundaries. And again, this is a public bathroom, those young women weren’t breaking any laws or rules.

(Sits down with a cup of coffee with a lid, just in case someone throws something at me….)

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:18:36am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

Heh, never thought of that.

You had a country that did the same but with routing tables a couple of years ago.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:18:48am

re: #287 Shropshire Slasher

I have a good friend that writes for a Chinese language newspaper in the UK, and he stated that the Pandora papers are banned by the Chinese…

LOL I can’t imagine why!

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darthstar  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:18:55am

Sadly, mobile fb is still up

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wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:19:03am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:19:59am

re: #288 A Mom Anon

I’ve been thinking about how activists approached Sinema yesterday and I am still in agreement with what they did. They didn’t threaten her, beyond saying stuff relating to making sure she doesn’t get elected again. They didn’t bang on the stall door or say one thing that could be considered violent, hateful or threatening. They told the truth to a person who rarely spends time doing senate business in her own state. Maybe if she could make the time for the people who elected her that might have helped. These were college students who believed in her and she basically told them all to fuck off. IMO this needs to happen more, not less. A public restroom is where Sinema went to hide. She washed her hands and went into a stall, hiding. No one answers their calls in her local office, no email responses, no responses at all. So are they supposed to just be nice and polite and then what? The video shows nothing awful happening, no threats, no violence and not one open carry idiot with a flag on their shirt to be seen anywhere. It wouldn’t matter if they confronted her in the bathroom or the parking lot, the usual suspects will make them into antifaillegalsterrorizingamerica!!!!

She could have defused this by stopping for a few minutes and not being a smart ass jerk. She’s there to collect a paycheck no one makes her work for. This may likely backfire, but it’s because of our fucking stupid media and social media being sociopathic, not these young people fighting for their future. You will NEVER win this war without crossing some boundaries. And again, this is a public bathroom, those young women weren’t breaking any laws or rules.

(Sits down with a cup of coffee with a lid, just in case someone throws something at me….)

The flush in mid diatribe was to die for!

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:20:14am

“Facebook, Instagram are down. Reports coming in of numerous companies seeing sudden spikes in productivity.”

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:20:15am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

You fight people like Bannon with subpoenas and indictments.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:20:39am

re: #289 Teukka

You had a country that did the same but with routing tables a couple of years ago.

I think that was Russia, and didn’t they accidentally route something like all of Microsoft into a black hole?

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JOE 🥓  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:20:54am

re: #291 darthstar

Sadly, mobile fb is still up

[Embedded content]

Hmmm, just checked my phone and it’s not loading!

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Teukka  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:21:04am

re: #296 Dopamine Fish

I think that was Russia, and didn’t they accidentally route something like all of Microsoft into a black hole?

Wasn’t it Turkey or Pakistan?

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wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:21:22am

re: #295 The Squire of Logos

Welcome, hatchling.

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:22:14am

re: #299 wrenchwench

Hi There!

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wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:23:27am

re: #300 The Squire of Logos

Please to excuse my reading of your nic as ‘Square of Legos’.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:23:51am

re: #295 The Squire of Logos

You fight people like Bannon with subpoenas and indictments.

Welcome on board! Did you bring pizza for all?

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:24:35am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a gay Republican buddy who is just like that: contrarian, cantankerous and ready to to take on anything he sees as “accepted policy”.

His parents were radical leftist college professors, so his way of rebelling against them was to be clean-cut and conservative. Yet he somehow still reconciles his Conservative faith with the fact that he is married to a man who he would not be able to be legally married to if the GOP had its way.

Justa good ole Log Cabin Republican.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:25:01am

re: #298 Teukka

Wasn’t it Turkey or Pakistan?

I don’t remember, to be honest.

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:25:31am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

No pizza, but plenty of beer…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:26:43am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

Welcome on board! Did you bring pizza for all?

Don’t answer. It’s a trap!!1!

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:26:49am

re: #301 wrenchwench

No worries. I think Legos are pretty cool. Insanely expensive, but cool.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:27:01am

Regarding the Interwebs, someone at my work found this on Twitter (not a link, just a quote from a tweet):

something that at this point has taken down both DNS and BGP records, which for non-tech people basically translates as “for the moment, this has been wiped off the face of the Internet”

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:27:55am

re: #295 The Squire of Logos

You fight people like Bannon with subpoenas and indictments.

Yep, but the Proud Boys and the police that side with them are a totally different issue.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:36:22am

re: #306 Decatur Deb

Don’t answer. It’s a trap!!1!

It’s not a trap so long as questions on whether or not some items qualify as toppings aren’t asked…

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retired cynic  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:40:47am

re: #244 BeenHereAwhile

Blood clots in the lungs ain’t no fun.

Killed my FIL.

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sagehen  Oct 4, 2021 • 10:44:14am

re: #295 The Squire of Logos

You fight people like Bannon with subpoenas and indictments.

We did that. He was convicted. Trump pardoned him.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 11:39:24am

re: #295 The Squire of Logos

You fight people like Bannon with subpoenas and indictments.

Quite true. And welcome to our humble home away from home. You DID bring coffee, did you not? :-)

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Oct 4, 2021 • 11:40:36am

re: #305 The Squire of Logos

No pizza, but plenty of beer…

[Embedded content]

That’ll work. Would you pass me one please?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2021 • 11:54:56am

re: #298 Teukka

Wasn’t it Turkey or Pakistan?

and I initially read that as turkey or pastrami…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2021 • 11:55:55am

re: #311 retired cynic

Killed my FIL.

killed my first husband


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