written by Sting
featuring
Amma Whatt: vocals
Brad Allen Williams: guitar
Fima Ephron: bass
Jaleel Shaw: saxophone
Jon Cowherd: pianoshot, directed and edited by Joseph DiGiovanna
Now that the storm has blown through, the sky is clear enough to the west to see Jupiter.
CL’d. PBUH Aminah.
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Reading tweets about the SWA “sickout” are a hoot. It’s our regular reminder that the “working class” folks out there are cool with people protesting their “right” to be plague rats, but think anybody who wants decent wages and/or respect should “Go find another job!”
Montana has 10 times the number of new cases of my county, and a smaller population. Montana has a fully vaccinated citizenry of 49%, my county is at 82%. I wonder if there is causation as well as correlation. Hmmm.
re: #5 Dread Pirate Ron
My state ranks 47th out of all 50 states and DC with a vaccination of rate of 44%
Only Alabama, Wyoming, Idaho and West Virginia are worse off.
Also, all four states which border my own are in the bottom 10. Gotta love the South. Sigh…
I mentioned downstairs that I live close to a gun range. Fun fact: Said gun range is owned by the town I live in. Which means I can show up for free. It’s a nice gun range too. Trap shooting, a semi-enclosed pistol range, even a facsimile old west town with targets. Yay socialism.
The gun range makes money for the town, non-residents travel from all over to use the facilities. It’s where I shot a fully auto H&K MP5 when I was a teenager.
I said this a few days ago here. I’m serious. Take these MAGA chuds at their word, and be ready. I saw too much talk of civil war on Twitter today, silly and stupid. BUT… it doesn’t hurt to have useful tools for the unlikely event of bloody civil strife.
I still advocate that liberals arm themselves. Start with a pump action shotgun and work your way up from there.
— ballfootski (@ballfootski) October 10, 2021
Before Fuckface Von Clownstick became president I would have NEVER advocated for gun ownership of any kind anywhere. Take it or leave it was my attitude. Not anymore.
re: #9 teleskiguy
I said this a few days ago here. I’m serious. Take these MAGA chuds at their word, and be ready. I saw too much talk of civil war on Twitter today, silly and stupid. BUT… it doesn’t hurt to have useful tools for the unlikely event of bloody civil strife.
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You aren’t the only one seeing that. Idiot relatives are posting that they are willing to do whatever it takes to put Trump and the GOP back in charge. And then there is the one asshole in Uncle Sam’s B&B who STILL insists that Crackhead Mike is going to put Trump back in power so he can pardon everyone who participated in the coup.
I own two rifles (semi auto .22 LR and bolt action .30-06) and a pump action 12 gauge shotgun. They haven’t been touched in years, but right now I’m glad I still have them.
Made a pact with myself a long time ago that I would never own pistols. I could use one to kill myself, and that can’t happen. That’s why they’ve always bothered me, it’s an easy human being off switch.
re: #15 teleskiguy
The dude who took this picture is dead now.
Damn, man.
Excuse me while I contemplate mortality for a bit.
I’m 39. Honestly, when I was 35 I was struggling just with the day-to-day stuff, I had no money, I had just got a new entry-level job and I was worried about getting to said job because the tires on my car were bald and bald tires don’t work in snow…
— ballfootski (@ballfootski) October 11, 2021
Ain’t that America…
I’d just been fired from a small, but powerful, tax accounting outfit in McCook, Nebraska. They didn’t like that I am gay.
— Matthew Steger (@oscillation78) October 11, 2021
re: #9 teleskiguy
I said this a few days ago here. I’m serious. Take these MAGA chuds at their word, and be ready. I saw too much talk of civil war on Twitter today, silly and stupid. BUT… it doesn’t hurt to have useful tools for the unlikely event of bloody civil strife.
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Assuming that this talk turns to action and that there is something more than the occasional violence that we’ve been experiencing for years, there seem to be 2 possibilities:
1. Our military including the National Guard and our police agencies will basically hold firm and the traitors will soon find themselves in prison, in the hospital, or dead.
2. We will be in all out civil war with attacks and chaos everywhere. It will not end well for anyone.
In either case, armed citizenry in urban or suburban areas will do nothing to promote stability or bring an end to conflict, but just add to the destruction. Only those few living in rural communities who can feed themselves might be able to manage — but the rest of us are likely to be doomed under the second scenario. Except for those with military experience, we are not trained to face combat, especially all out urban warfare in a modern society.
re: #17 teleskiguy
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I’m 37. Two years ago, I was exactly where I’m at today: A middle-aged Millenial working a soul-crushing job for ungrateful bastards who think that paying ridiculously low prices through Expedia gives them license to fuck with my life for their gratification.
re: #20 Targetpractice
Yeah, man. I feel you deep down in me gizzards. The service/hospitality industry in America is very good at exposing good humans (those working to make other humans feel welcome) to wretched ass-faces that have very little empathy for others (some sociopaths who probably ignore their own goddamned children).
re: #20 Targetpractice
I’m 37. Two years ago, I was exactly where I’m at today: A middle-aged Millenial working a soul-crushing job for ungrateful bastards who think that paying ridiculously low prices through Expedia gives them license to fuck with my life for their gratification.
I had recently gotten married and my husband and I were searching for a house in the Chicago suburbs before we killed each other living in the small condominium that my husband had purchased years before we met. The condo was in a great location — but the accommodations were stifling. Of course, this was during the time when bank mortgage rates were up to 18% and sellers had to offer owner financing at the low-low rate of 10%+ to attract buyers.
re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter
Of course, this was during the time when bank mortgage rates were up to 18% and sellers had to offer owner financing at the low-low rate of 10%+ to attract buyers.
I hope that you know that this sentence literally means nothing to Targetpractice and I. We live paycheck to paycheck.
Assets? What are those? Says an intelligent LGF guy from Colorado who’ll be 40 next year.
re: #24 teleskiguy
I hope that you know that this sentence literally means nothing to Targetpractice and I. We live paycheck to paycheck.
‘bout the closest I come to a mortgage these days is a car payment.
I live in a place where the investor class reigns supreme. I have to be completely deluded that I could maybe join them with a slopeside ski chalet of my own. The United States is a de facto caste system.
What did I do when I was 35?
I had just been promoted to a quality control position in my agency. And with my promotion meant more child support payments to my 5 year old son which I was blocked from seeing thanks to a corrupted Xtian Orange County judge.
1991 was also the last year that I tried to find a job in private industry and was repeatedly told I couldn’t be hired because I was too old. So I gave up. Tried to apply for promotions in the agency but the door was slammed on that because certain people didn’t like Jews. So I just go thru the motions now. Marking an X on the calendar with each passing day and waiting for 1/20/2025 when I can retire with a full pension.
I worry about money ALL THE TIME. But I choose to stay put where I’m at. Skiing is my zen. It’s pretty much the only joyous life I know that has always been geographically close to me.
This is me. I can’t tell normies how much fun I’m having, they wouldn’t understand.
re: #26 Targetpractice
‘bout the closest I come to a mortgage these days is a car payment.
Well I can’t afford either one unless I match at least five lotto numbers for a car or six to try to make mortgage payments on a house.
Amazing to see the 100+ year Sears Craftsman homes in my area now on the market for a minimum of 2 million dollars…
re: #28 JOE 🥓
Marking an X on the calendar with each passing day and waiting for 1/20/2025 when I can retire with a full pension.
If you can make it to this (and I believe you can), fuckin’ aye! I’m rooting for you.
Full federal government pension. That’s a thing.
I have exactly *zero* retirement assets. Other than what’s in my parent’s will.
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re: #32 teleskiguy
Full federal government pension. That’s a thing.
When I started back in 1978 if you put 30 years into the system you got 80% of your high 3 salary and you had a COLA 2 times a year. OR you had a lump sum option that allowed you to withdraw everything you paid into Civil Service tax free and your annuity was reduced to 2/3 of your high 3 salary. You didn’t have to enroll in Medicare because you could carry over your health insurance that you had while working.
Little by little that has been taken away. Reagan killed the lump sum withdrawal and he introduced the RIPOFF FERS system for new employees. Oh and what was once 30 years was increased a bit at a time to now it’s at 42 years with 80% of your salary Reagan forced you into Medicare. Old Fart Bush jacked up what was deducted from 7% to 9% and he killed the 6 month COLA sticking us with once a year DIET COLA. Dumbya stuck us with the Pill Bill Tax and Obama signed a pension cut that eliminated your locality pay from the annuity computation. In my case that’s a 20% cut on the annuity. Trump was trying to take our health insurance away and force us to buy in the exchanges with NO SUBSIDY. So I count the days until I can finally get off the fucking treadmill…
re: #34 JOE 🥓
One of the reasons I’ve stayed away from the public sector for work. Though I admire your gumption. What you’re describing, that can’t be fun. The whole thing, man. Which is why I hope and pray that treadmill for you ends and you can enjoy some shit.
re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter
Assuming that this talk turns to action and that there is something more than the occasional violence that we’ve been experiencing for years, there seem to be 2 possibilities:
1. Our military including the National Guard and our police agencies will basically hold firm and the traitors will soon find themselves in prison, in the hospital, or dead.
2. We will be in all out civil war with attacks and chaos everywhere. It will not end well for anyone.In either case, armed citizenry in urban or suburban areas will do nothing to promote stability or bring an end to conflict, but just add to the destruction. Only those few living in rural communities who can feed themselves might be able to manage — but the rest of us are likely to be doomed under the second scenario. Except for those with military experience, we are not trained to face combat, especially all out urban warfare in a modern society.
You’re right.
And you may be naīve. And I may be deluded. I hope it’s both. The idea of shooting and murdering fellow citizens because we believe different things truly frightens me. Humans share more similarities than differences, we should all strive to understand that simple fact.
So I was working on a long post about a running conversation with my “reasonable conservative” friend when I got one of those weird “once-in-a-lifetime” calls from a guest. Appears that somehow, water is leaking into the room’s breaker box and shorted out some of the breakers. I took the precaution of turning off the rest and moving the guests out of the room for the night, but without any idea if it’s a leak from outside the building or a waterline leaking, there’s not much more I can do tonight. Because my stress level wasn’t high enough already, I now get to spend the next (checks clock) 4 1/2 hours hoping that it remains an isolated incident until maintenance comes in.
Days that make you wanna go “AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!”
re: #17 teleskiguy
I’m sixty-one. When I was thirty-five, I was still in the Navy, about a year from my career and my marriage being cut short from my little medical problem.
re: #34 JOE 🥓
Where I worked they didn’t take from old agreements but new hires always got less pension than previously hired people. I worked for a city in California so I don’t get SS even though I paid in for years before because ‘we got a pension’. CalPERS does pretty good even though I became disabled and forced to retire at 56 after 23 years. Private disability filled in some and my wife will get SS to make up for loss of disability at 66. We’ll also finally pay off the house at that time. Cutting things close but we’ll manage.
Man Tried To Run People Over With Truck, Dies After Beaten By Crowd: Cops (Huffington Post)
The driver was pulled from his truck and beaten after trying to ram people on a sidewalk in Southern California, authorities said.
HAWTHORNE, Calif. (AP) — A man died after he tried to hit people on a sidewalk with his truck, crashed against a building and then was pulled out and beaten by the group in Southern California, authorities said.
The man was asked to leave a business in Hawthorne early Saturday and then argued with someone while walking to his truck, said Lt. Hugo Reynaga of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.
The man then intentionally drove the truck onto the sidewalk, nearly hitting a group of patrons before his truck wedged against a tree, the Daily Breeze reported.
As the patrons tried to take the man out of the driver’s seat, he accelerated again and hit the corner of a nearby building, Reynaga said.
The patrons took the driver out of the truck and continued fighting with him as Hawthorne police arrived, sheriff’s Deputy Grace Medrano said.
The driver suffered blunt-force trauma, Medrano said. He died at the scene.
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re: #37 Targetpractice
So I was working on a long post about a running conversation with my “reasonable conservative” friend when I got one of those weird “once-in-a-lifetime” calls from a guest. Appears that somehow, water is leaking into the room’s breaker box and shorted out some of the breakers. I took the precaution of turning off the rest and moving the guests out of the room for the night, but without any idea if it’s a leak from outside the building or a waterline leaking, there’s not much more I can do tonight. Because my stress level wasn’t high enough already, I now get to spend the next (checks clock) 4 1/2 hours hoping that it remains an isolated incident until maintenance comes in.
Days that make you wanna go “AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!”
When my wife and I moved to Alaska, we stayed for a couple of months in a long term hotel. One evening we found a large amount of water running down the wall and soaking the carpet. Turns out a large group of high school kids had rented a third floor suite, where, as usual with drunken HS kids, things got out of control. The kids had let the room’s hot tube get overfilled and water poured out every where. The police were called and I heard one of the Officers say that they had never busted that many naked kids before. The incident was kept under cover as most of the kids were from the mover and shaker families in town.
The best part was that one kid used his fathers credit card to pay for the room. The hotel stuck that credit card with all the repair expenses
re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Man Tried To Run People Over With Truck, Dies After Beaten By Crowd: Cops (Huffington Post)
The driver was pulled from his truck and beaten after trying to ram people on a sidewalk in Southern California, authorities said.
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Sometimes karma takes awhile, sometimes it’s instant.
WASHINGTON —A Navy nuclear engineer with access to military secrets has been charged with trying to pass information about the design of American nuclear-powered submarines to someone he thought was a representative of a foreign government but who turned out to be an undercover FBI agent, the Justice Department said Sunday.
In a criminal complaint detailing espionage-related charges against Jonathan Toebbe, the government said he sold information for nearly the past year to a contact he believed represented a foreign power. That country was not named in the court documents.
Toebbe, 42, was arrested in West Virginia on Saturday along with his wife, Diana, 45, after he had placed a removable memory card at a prearranged “dead drop” in the state, according to the Justice Department.
It wasn’t immediately clear whether the Toebbes, who are from Annapolis, Maryland, have lawyers. The Navy declined to comment Sunday.
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Navy Nuclear Engineer Charged with Trying to Pass Secrets (Voice of America)
re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Gives me hope. ‘Cause you’re still doin’ it, after the shit, and you’re in a happy marriage and relatively healthy. And I’m *really trying* to do what I love, and in all reality, I’m not doing so bad. I work for a ski area, my employer for five winters now, and they’ve treated me pretty good. They’ve included me in their Instagram advertising.
Charlie Pond Skim. One for the weekend, Charlie Vogel aka His Teleness going ape in the pond. #iamaskimmer #skimmer #pondskim
Just a #fresh lil’ reminder that season pass prices go up tomorrow @ #midnight .
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. #linkinbio #freshies #sunpow #charliepow #powder #powderdays #seasonpasses #powderpass #powdertothepeople #powderup #eastridge #wegotbothkindsofruns #steepanddeep #sunlight 📸 Troy Hawks ⛷ @teleskiguy
re: #42 Cheechako
When my wife and I moved to Alaska, we stayed for a couple on months in a long term hotel. One evening we found a large amount of water running down the wall and soaking the carpet. Turns out a large group of high school kids had rented a third floor suite, where, as usual with drunken HS kids, things got out of control. The kids had let the room’s hot tube get overfilled and water poured out every where. The police were called and I heard one of the Officers say that they had never busted that many naked kids before. The incident was kept under cover as most of the kids were from the mover and shaker families in town.
The best part was that one kid used his fathers credit card to pay for the room. The hotel stuck that credit card with all the repair expenses
Last couple places I’ve worked, there’s been a strict “No under 21” rule to put the kibosh on most of those types of scenarios. I generally only make one exception and that’s for active-duty military who can provide ID, and even that’s discretionary as I will turn away Navy guys who look like they’re just looking for some place to continue the party after the clubs close. Rest of the time, I don’t care how sad or sympathetic your story sounds, you gotta be 21 or older. And yes, I’ve argued on the phone with more than my fair share of asshole parents/relatives/etc about why I won’t budge on that and no I’m not calling a manger at o’dark thirty so they can tell you the same thing.
Not to say that there haven’t been incidents, but usually that’s because we’ve got a rookie at the desk who doesn’t know how to smell a scam. Like the one a couple years ago, where our newly-minted supervisor checked in a crowd of kids because they’d conned some homeless guy into checking in as their “uncle.” Before it was all said and done, the cops were called, the room was trashed as petty revenge, and the new rule was either a credit card (no cash cards) or $250 cash had to be ponied up as incidentals at check-in.
Current temp. outside at mi casa is 32° F, to my knowledge first time it’s got to freezing since last spring. Some coincidences.
Landlords have a guy blowing out our sprinkler system right now. Summer is most definitely officially over.
— ballfootski (@ballfootski) October 10, 2021
re: #43 Targetpractice
Sometimes karma takes awhile, sometimes it’s instant.
People are getting tired of antisocial assholes using them as targets for vehicular homicide attempts.
Oh, and on the subject of hot tubs or (as the rubes ask me on the phone) “the rooms with the jacuzzi tubs,” those are the bane of the existence of every poor sod who works at a hotel with them as an option.
Housekeeping hates them because they’re hard to keep clean, cause all sorts of issues with water/mold in the rooms, and guests are forever “losing” items (ex: jewelry) in the damned things.
Maintenance hates them because they’re hard to keep running, they are prone to clogs that normal plumbing doesn’t deal with, and they’re a source of constant leaks into surrounding rooms.
And front desk/management hates them for all the above reasons, but also because the sort of folks who spring for those rooms are…well…let’s be generous and call them “difficult.” The kind that you either end up calling the cops to have hauled off, fighting with their bank/credit card company over water damage to the room, or both.
re: #45 teleskiguy
That’s you?
We have our moments of arguments, but mostly I don’t think we could do without one another.
re: #37 Targetpractice
Friend, I offer this soothing dalliance for your weary mind.
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Seriously though, if sparks and fire and shit start poppin’ up all around, well, you know what to do.
re: #49 Targetpractice
My wife and I have only stayed in one room with a hot tub in it.
We were not the messy types; the water stayed in the tub and we’re too boring to call the cops on.
re: #51 teleskiguy
Friend, I offer this soothing dalliance for your weary mind.
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Seriously though, if sparks and fire and shit start poppin’ up all around, well, you know what to do.
Run screaming into the night like my ass was on fire?
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re: #51 teleskiguy
Friend, I offer this soothing dalliance for your weary mind.
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Seriously though, if sparks and fire and shit start poppin’ up all around, well, you know what to do.
Let me offer some head banger music. (3:25)
re: #53 Targetpractice
Run screaming into the night like my ass was on fire?
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That’s what I do after too much hot sauce.
re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
My wife and I have only stayed in one room with a hot tub in it.
We were not the messy types; the water stayed in the tub and we’re too boring to call the cops on.
I like boring, boring I can deal with on most nights.
The distressing trend is the cops called more in the 11 months since we switched companies (and thus clientele) than in the previous 3 years. That’s probably because we went from being part of a respected hotel chain intended to cater to business guests to competing with the Red Roof Inn down the block.
re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Man Tried To Run People Over With Truck, Dies After Beaten By Crowd: Cops (Huffington Post)
The driver was pulled from his truck and beaten after trying to ram people on a sidewalk in Southern California, authorities said.
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The article doesn’t say (maybe the cops don’t yet know) whether this was standard drunk assholishness, political statement, or both.
re: #58 sagehen
The article doesn’t say (maybe the cops don’t yet know) whether this was standard drunk assholishness, political statement, or both.
I think this is one of those scenarios where it doesn’t really matter the motivation, unless the family of the deceased should try to bring suit for…something.
re: #3 Targetpractice
Reading tweets about the SWA “sickout” are a hoot. It’s our regular reminder that the “working class” folks out there are cool with people protesting their “right” to be plague rats, but think anybody who wants decent wages and/or respect should “Go find another job!”
again, the utter irony of a “sickout” over a vaccine to prevent a highly transmissible and potentially deadly disease simply burns…
I can’t stand it when directors don’t show all the dancers dancing:
Great dancing but their performance on TV was degraded by the camera work! Dancers perform with their whole bodies but we can’t see that because of the director’s choices. Tell the director to STOP CUTTING OFF DANCERS’ BODY PARTS. Also, director uses the swinging boom too much.
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) October 11, 2021
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re: #8 teleskiguy
I mentioned downstairs that I live close to a gun range. Fun fact: Said gun range is owned by the town I live in. Which means I can show up for free. It’s a nice gun range too. Trap shooting, a semi-enclosed pistol range, even a facsimile old west town with targets. Yay socialism.
The gun range makes money for the town, non-residents travel from all over to use the facilities. It’s where I shot a fully auto H&K MP5 when I was a teenager.
I am fine with owning guns for sport and if you want to use it to defend your home, I guess that is your good right.
But I don’t think that people should be allowed to tote them about to play “good guy with a gun” in a potential public active shooter setting. That is a recipe for disaster.
re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
again, the utter irony of a “sickout” over a vaccine to prevent a highly transmissible and potentially deadly disease simply burns…
Nah, what I’m looking forward to is when they assholes get their day in court…and learn that they have no “right” to ignore an employer mandate. Especially if SWA has (like most such companies have) told them that the alternative to vaccines was masks and regular testing. There’s no “plague rat” third option, a reasonable accommodation was offered and they rejected it, so SWA has every right to enforce the mandate and fire their asses.
re: #14 teleskiguy
Made a pact with myself a long time ago that I would never own pistols. I could use one to kill myself, and that can’t happen. That’s why they’ve always bothered me, it’s an easy human being off switch.
If I still lived in the Southwest, I might well own a .22 pistol loaded with snake shot for hiking in the desert.
re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I am fine with owning guns for sport and if you want to use it to defend your home, I guess that is your good right.
But I don’t think that people should be allowed to tote them about to play “good guy with a gun” in a potential public active shooter setting. That is a recipe for disaster.
I’m still waiting for the day when the “good guy with a gun” stops a shooter before he’s harmed/killed a single person, without the cops immediately shooting him out of confusion over who the shooter is.
re: #33 teleskiguy
I have exactly *zero* retirement assets. Other than what’s in my parent’s will.
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My daughter got home from work to regale me with tales of Drive-In fights. Now she’s feeding her pet spider some flies. Now she’s pouring a triple of whiskey.
re: #67 Dread Pirate Ron
My daughter got home from work to regale me with tales of Drive-In fights. Now she’s feeding her pet spider some flies. Now she’s pouring a triple of whiskey.
Don’t mind me, just shuddering over here in the corner. I may have gotten used to the smaller variety of eight-legged freaks, but anything large enough to be referred to as a “pet” still gives me the willies. Yeah, it’s irrational, but so are most fears.
re: #68 Targetpractice
Don’t mind me, just shuddering over here in the corner. I may have gotten used to the smaller variety of eight-legged freaks, but anything large enough to be referred to as a “pet” still gives me the willies. Yeah, it’s irrational, but so are most fears.
Mine involve anything to do with fingers. I can watch movies where heads and whole limbs are hacked off and it does not disturb me half as much as any mayhem that happens above the knuckles…
Poor Telltale. After arriving in New York City with his daughter after being hidden here in Nebraska with his daughter from the wingnuts who wanted to burn him out of his home in West Virginia, he is with his wife again.
She is a law student in New York, and yesterday she was assaulted by a Christian because of her daughter’s stance against teaching Christianity in the classroom, which started this whole mess.
At 35, I was a house-spouse in rural West Virginia. After having a Christian Coalition landlord inexplicably raise our rent several hundred hundred dollars after apparently finding a copy of the book, “Why Gay Rights Matter to America” that I had hidden deep behind other books on a bookshelf while doing maintenance while we weren’t home* four years previously, we were now renting a 4-bedroom home for $400/month.
Jobs were scarce there, but the wife’s then-salary of $38-43K per year made us a bit better off than a lot of people there. She really just had to fear the mini-Trump university president who ran the school like a coal camp deciding he would reverse his acceptance of her sponsorship of the school’s Gay-Straight Alliance due to local public pressure or take exception to her post-9/11 anti-war advocacy and fire her. (To his credit - and this is the one thing I’ll give him credit for - he didn’t.)
Because of the potential instability in our circumstances, we declined to set down permanent roots there and not ourselves down with a mortgage.
A few years previously, I had tried to do the low-paying part-time job thing as the elder child started school and the younger got old enough for daycare. However, what I was bringing home was less than the cost of daycare and the elder child was starting to exhibit behaviors indicative to what was then called Asperger’s syndrome. Again, his academic performance and grasp of subject matter was phenomenal compared to his peers, but certain tics and behavioral peculiarities drew the attention of bullies and one particular hardassed teacher’s aide who had been in the system forever and was impossible to dislodge who made my son her target for abuse.
So, I returned to being a stay-at-home parent to be available when needed to rush up to the elementary school to deal with a crisis and advocate for our child and to provide a sympathetic and stable afterschool environment.
Since the elementary school was next door to my wife’s institution and we lived maybe a mile away, we were at the elementary school a lot for meetings and conferences, planned and unplanned. (Side note: one of the people who helped us advocate for our son was Morgan Spurlock’s mother. We liked Phyllis. Never met Morgan.)
Around 2003, after a visit to New Mexico to catch up with long-lost relatives, my wife started looking to get us the hell out of West Virginia, even taking a significant pay cut to do it. We’re a lot happier here. The ASD son made it through high school and university, then spent the next eight years not getting hired after interminable failed interviews. Things were just starting to look up for him when Covid hit.
Finally, last spring, he got a paying job (not in his field, naturally) … and he’s now also being paid for the program that he was doing unpaid volunteer work for that was about to bring him on for a paid position when Covid hit.
As for Robert C. Byrd’s alma matter which employed my wife for nine years, Mini-Trump left under a cloud ca. 2012. The nursing program lost its accreditation after some shenanigans. It went out of business and its properties were taken over by other schools, and there was much rejoicing in my household.
*There’s no way that book fell from where I had hidden it to the position on the floor in front of the bookshelf I found it in the day before the landlord informed me he was raising the rent on us.
re: #68 Targetpractice
Don’t mind me, just shuddering over here in the corner. I may have gotten used to the smaller variety of eight-legged freaks, but anything large enough to be referred to as a “pet” still gives me the willies. Yeah, it’s irrational, but so are most fears.
It is a small jumping spider, maybe an inch leg span. I’m surprised she’s kept it alive for about 8 months.
re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Mine involve anything to do with fingers. I can watch movies where heads and whole limbs are hacked off and it does not disturb me half as much as any mayhem that happens above the knuckles…
Yeah, I’ve never gotten into the whole “torture porn” genre of films because of hang-ups over stuff like that. Hence why it turned into a chore to get through the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and why I refuse to watch any of the Saw franchise.
re: #67 Dread Pirate Ron
My daughter got home from work to regale me with tales of Drive-In fights. Now she’s feeding her pet spider some flies. Now she’s pouring a triple of whiskey.
Never knew spiders drank whiskey, but perhaps it’s just the thing to wash down fly innards.
re: #72 Dread Pirate Ron
It is a small jumping spider, maybe an inch leg span. I’m surprised she’s kept it alive for about 8 months.
Ah, I have no real problem with those little things. Which is a massive improvement from where I was earlier in my life, when seeing one of those in a room would see me immediately vacate it until I felt brave enough to check to see if it had left.
So why did you vote against the John Lewis Voting Rights Act?
Tweets are fun. But when comes to actual laws, how are you any better than them? https://t.co/7TU23hFvY2— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) October 11, 2021
re: #75 Targetpractice
We have a large wolf spider on the ceiling in the dining room but it blends in with the Halloween spiders stuck to the walls. My other daughter hates spiders, I have to remove them from a room for her.
re: #65 Targetpractice
I’m still waiting for the day when the “good guy with a gun” stops a shooter before he’s harmed/killed a single person, without the cops immediately shooting him out of confusion over who the shooter is.
I have already mentioned that such situations require nerves of steel, good situational awareness and years of training/practice if you expect to do more good than harm.
And those skills are not available over the counter at your local sporting goods store.
re: #77 Dread Pirate Ron
We have a large wolf spider on the ceiling in the dining room but it blends in with the Halloween spiders stuck to the walls. My other daughter hates spiders, I have to remove them from a room for her.
Yeah, I see those occasionally and don’t think much of them. Might have killed one or two on suspicion of being a brown recluse, but otherwise I leave them alone since they kill pests that get in the house.
re: #73 Targetpractice
Yeah, I’ve never gotten into the whole “torture porn” genre of films because of hang-ups over stuff like that. Hence why it turned into a chore to get through the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and why I refuse to watch any of the Saw franchise.
I can handle some violence when it is part of a bigger plot line but not excessive violence just for violence’s sake.
re: #77 Dread Pirate Ron
We have a large wolf spider on the ceiling in the dining room but it blends in with the Halloween spiders stuck to the walls. My other daughter hates spiders, I have to remove them from a room for her.
That has always been my job in every relationship…
re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have already mentioned that such situations require nerves of steel, good situational awareness and years of training/practice if you expect to do more good than harm.
And those skills are not available over the counter at your local sporting goods store.
Dateline did an informal study into the reaction times of average slubs in active shooter scenarios. They put them in a mock classroom with other folks, knowing that somebody was going to bust into the room but not when or what they were going to do. And even knowing what was going to happen, most either froze up or missed the shooter while getting shot in the process.
re: #83 Targetpractice
Because we stress the “right to bear arms” while almost entirely ignoring the “well-regulated militia” part of the 2A
re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I can handle some violence when it is part of a bigger plot line but not excessive violence just for violence’s sake.
Yeah, Murphy getting turned into ground beef in Robocop served the plot, it wasn’t Paul Verhoeven seeing if he could get the audience to barf…that was just a bonus.
There’s probably one film I can think of where seeing bad things done to fingers doesn’t squick me out: Darkman.
re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
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What’s more hilarious is that most of those job losses have been limited to people like janitorial staff, maintenance workers, and other blue collar guys who calculate that the wages lost are less than their “freedom.” The obvious lesson is there is a break-even point at which “freedom” takes back seat to “paycheck.”
Unvaccinated health-care workers are a health hazard.
Via The Friendly Atheist:
Right-Wing Activist Who Said He Was “Vaccinated in Christ” Dies of Covid
The man is Pete Coulson. He spent the last months of his life starting in June appointed to a task force created by Idaho Lieutenant Governor Janet McGeachin to “weed out” left-leaning curricula in Idaho K-12 public schools.
McGeechin curiously avoided the cause of death when she made the announcement he’d died. (Not curious, all conservatives are liars.)
re: #33 teleskiguy
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re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Via The Friendly Atheist:
Right-Wing Activist Who Said He Was “Vaccinated in Christ” Dies of Covid
Now he is with Christ so it is a win-win…
re: #90 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David
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Do you think the older generation might be more motivated to cycle if they had access to or the experience of using an #ebike?
Research shows that they could be the key! Though many wrongly believe that e-bikes are ‘cheating’. Thoughts?#MondayMotivationhttps://t.co/AvuXAEuhZ7— Sustrans North (@SustransNorth) October 11, 2021
#hjmbike, Safe ride, equipped with Anti-puncture all-terrain #fattire. All that rubber delivers unbelievable traction and stability no matter where you roam!#HJMToury #electricbike #bike #riding #ridingexperience #loveriding #bicyclelife #ebikefan #life #lifestyles #fattirebike pic.twitter.com/KVGXkdKtuX
— HJM bike (@TianHjm) October 11, 2021
My Friday bike ride kinda went south. First my dropper seat post self destructed and flopped 45 degrees left and right from center, then I got a thorn in the tire and it went partially flat just before getting home and totally flat a half hour after I got home. I spent today working on the flat and getting the seat post to partial functionality. It only flops about 10 degrees now. I’ve had 2 flats in 1300 miles, not too bad. I think I’ll get a spare tube and a portable electric pump for the tool kit.
Biking is fine along the river but to get off and up into any of the valleys you are looking at either steep inclines or long, gentle grades, the latter of which are the most tiring; it is almost impossible to find a gear where you are not standing up on the pedals to push down with force or flailing away like a hamster to keep moving.
Conservatives challenged by arithmetic. After posting this on Twitter, apparently the account holder deleted everything from embarrassment (the account is still there but there are no posts, showing the necessity of screen captures).
re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Conservatives challenged by arithmetic. After posting this on Twitter, apparently the account holder deleted everything from embarrassment (the account is still there but there are no posts, showing the necessity of screen captures).
“50 percent off! Man, that’s like nearly half!”
re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I’m 65 and I find an electric bike makes a 45 mile ride as easy for me now as a 10 mile ride at age 30 on an acoustic bike. I ride with a pedal assist of 1 out of 5. I’m going to try a 25 mile ride with pedal assist level of 5 tomorrow. I want to see my range with the most battery drain. It’s 50-60 at pedal assist 1. The EU has some tight power limits (250W?) but their mid drive motors can do as well as a 1000W hub drive motor in the US. Hub drives bring the price down to where average people can afford an e-bike.
re: #29 teleskiguy
Being able to do what you truly love even if it will never get you your own chalet is still damned important.
re: #98 The Squire of Logos
Being able to do what you truly love even if it will never get you your own chalet is still damned important.
And being able to do it while you are young enough to enjoy it…at this stage in my life, I am growing progressively happier to do very little and just reflect.
Newsweek, October 9, 2021.
Nebraska’s popcorn futures going up.
Trump Allies Lin Wood and Marjorie Taylor Greene Attack Each Other
I love the smell of conservatives turning on each other in the morning.
Prominent Trump supporters attorney Lin Wood and Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, are feuding in public after Wood accused Greene of being “a communist.”
Wood filed multiple 2020 election challenges along with pro-Trump attorney Sidney Powell in the wake of President Joe Biden win. He has gone on to promote various election conspiracy theories. Greene, also a staunch Trump loyalist, has similarly promoted misinformation about the 2020 election.
While their interests may align when it comes to Trump, the two right-wing figures now appear to be starkly at odds with each other.
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Dedicated to Marge (3:44)
re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Newsweek, October 9, 2021.
Nebraska’s popcorn futures going up.
Trump Allies Lin Wood and Marjorie Taylor Greene Attack Each Other
I love the smell of conservatives turning on each other in the morning.
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Dedicated to Marge (3:44)
Somehow, conservatives attacking each other does not seem to really damage either side: in fact it only seems to make the crayzee even stronger.
re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Somehow, conservatives attacking each other does not seem to really damage either side: in fact it only seems to make the crayzee even stronger.
There have been op-ed articles all over our state cautioning Republican gubernatorial candidates from attacking each other in the primary election. The last time they did that they bloodied each other so badly we elected a Democratic governor.
The NDP is sitting this out right now watching them do that while behind the scenes they are trying to get behind a single candidate for the election next year.
At a Billy Graham law enforcement retreat, Tallahassee police chief Lawrence Revell (along with other brass from the police department) said he was God’s first choice to be police chief. (He was Tallahassee’s second choice in 2020 after their first choice backed out of contract negotiations.)
The retreat’s purpose is to promote spreading the Gospel by police on the job.
Revell encourages other chiefs to push back on their City Managers and City Commissioners if criticized for working in religion into the management of their departments “Hold the line,” he says, comparing his role to Peter and Paul from the Bible.
“Don’t move the line because of opposition you might face,” beginning to discuss his criticisms by County Commissioner Bill Proctor about Revell’s 1996 killing of Nuke Williams.
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“I was God’s First Choice,” TPD Chief Revell Says at Billy Graham Retreat (Our Tallahassee, October 1, 2021, with video from the event where he states it’s his job as a police officer to promote Christianity amongst officers and citizens, and push back against the city council if he does it)
re: #102 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
I have a question regarding Flags. Do we fly the flag on Columbus Day?
re: #105 PhillyPretzel
I have a question regarding Flags. Do we fly the flag on Columbus Day?
Yes. It is one of the official days listed in the Flag Code.
re: #93 Dread Pirate Ron
My wife has decided they’re too dangerous to ride because someone we know got a concussion while riding one.
re: #108 Belafon
My wife has decided they’re too dangerous to ride because someone we know got a concussion while riding one.
Companies also make adult electric tricycles.
re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
At a Billy Graham law enforcement retreat, Tallahassee police chief Lawrence Revell (along with other brass from the police department) said he was God’s first choice to be police chief. (He was Tallahassee’s second choice in 2020 after their first choice backed out of contract negotiations.)
Making such a statement at a religious retreat is not half as ludicrous as making it at an official public press conference.
re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Yes. It is one of the official days listed in the Flag Code.
God bless Vespucciland!!!
re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes. I know.
en.wikipedia.org
No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer (Ars Technica, October 8, 2021, long discussion of why vaccination is better than “natural immunity”—besides actually getting Covid-19)
It will not convince the antivaxxers of course; the vaccination is almost entirely political virtue-signaling for conservatives. To get it is to be thrown out of the club.
re: #113 PhillyPretzel
Yes. I know.
en.wikipedia.org
I just recall that from Waiting for the Electrician or Someone Like Him by the Firesign Theater
re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Thank you for the article. I have bookmarked it.
re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer (Ars Technica, October 8, 2021, long discussion of why vaccination is better than “natural immunity”—besides actually getting Covid-19)
It will not convince the antivaxxers of course; the vaccination is almost entirely political virtue-signaling for conservatives. To get it is to be thrown out of the club.
wearing a mask as well
re: #116 PhillyPretzel
Thank you for the article. I have bookmarked it.
You’re welcome.
I’m going to send it to my brother-in-law, who’s fallen down the wingnut antivax hole, but I doubt he can be convinced. (Never mind he is a science teacher and has his MA in geology.) My wife has tried to get him to get vaccinated but no joy; he claims he had Covid-19 in the past but I don’t know about that.
My sister-in-law is currently in Russia visiting family; she got the Sputnik V vaccine there some time ago; she can’t seem to convince him either. I feel somewhat sorry for my sister-in-law, as she was an immunologist in the Soviet Union. (She didn’t trust the mRNA vaccines when they were being released so she went to Russia to get the Sputnik V vaccine. I don’t know if that’s a better choice or not, but even if the Sputnik vaccine is not as effective, it is still far better than getting Covid-19.)
President Joe Biden has issued the first-ever presidential proclamation of Indigenous Peoples’ Day. While Native Americans have campaigned for years for such recognition, Biden’s announcement appeared to catch many by surprise. https://t.co/jpbLCdKdJn
— The Associated Press (@AP) October 9, 2021
re: #119 Belafon
Columbus was one person at the head of an expedition consisting of some 90 men, the Indigenous people he met numbered in the tens of millions.
Who deserves the greater recognition?
re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
He’s also railing about “Big Pharma” trying to make lots of money (welcome to capitalism), instead of issuing aspirin tablets to break up blood clots. He also claims there are no studies on this regarding Covid-19 (there are, and my wife already sent them to him).
Even assuming that’s true (it’s about money), I cooked up a thought experiment, with a retail price of one aspirin tablet at 1¢.
Assume there are eight billion people (more or less) on the planet, and about two billion are children (who cannot take aspirin). That leaves about six billion people to give aspirin tablets to.
For every day that Covid-19 is going on, you’ll need to give every person at least one tablet every six hours, or 4¢ per person per day (and assuming you can distribute aspirin tablets to every person). That’s $240 million dollars for aspirin tablets every single day. If it goes on for only one hundred days, that’s $24 billion dollars.
That also assumes that “Big Pharma” companies (which make aspirin tablets) have the capacity to manufacture and distribute all those aspirin tablets.
Asking the Hopi if the Navajo should be recognized is a bit like asking a Greek if the Turks should be recognized. It makes a few assumptions. There are a lot of other parallelisms.
re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
It is all about the symbolism:
vaccines and masks = Big Government, Liberal Media, Soros, Big Pharma, Big-Tech Mind Control.
Ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, hydroxycholoquinine, etc = Good old-fashioned common-sense horse doctor medicine.
re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is all about the symbolism:
vaccines and masks = Big Government, Liberal Media, Soros, Big Pharma, Big-Tech Mind Control.
Ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, hydroxycholoquinine, etc = Good old-fashioned common-sense horse doctor medicine.
Perhaps we should administer Ivermectin with farriers.
Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro complains he couldn’t attend a soccer match because he is not vaccinated: “I wanted to watch Santos now and they said I needed to be vaccinnated. Why should that be?” The club says he had not asked to attend.
https://t.co/ENUZNpecJK— AP Sports (@AP_Sports) October 11, 2021
re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Perhaps we should administer Ivermectin with farriers.
Some of the needles used on livestock are big enough to pass pills through. Maybe we can administer the new Mercedes Tamiflu-like pills to these people that way.
Possibly going to war with a Dean—the capa di tutti. I really hope not. I like the guy, and I think he means well, but he really fouled something up and he’s going to need to remedy it. I’m adjunct, so I have no Grievance procedures to draw on, but I’ve been riding the bull in the rodeo for 30 years now, and so the bull and I are on a first-name basis. That means I’m allowed to call bull when I see it.
Liberal activists intend to harangue Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema on why she won’t support President Biden’s 3.5 trillion dollar Build Back Better Act - while she competes in the Boston Marathon.Grassroots activists have already ‘bird-dogged’ the representative - a phrase for putting a politician on the spot in an unexpected public place, forcing them either to commit to a position or to look foolish for dodging a question - in the bathroom at the college where she works, in an airport and later on the airplane.
At the marathon on Monday, members of the Green New Deal Network from Arizona and Massachusetts intend to hold signs reading: ‘Senator Sinema: Pass the Full Deal,’ ‘Senator Sinema: Stop Running. Start Listening’ and ‘Senator Sinema: Stop Running From Us,’ according to the Boston Globe.
The hot new back-to-school accessory? An air quality monitor. Parents are sneaking CO2 monitors into their children’s schools to determine whether the buildings are safe. An aerosol scientist says they work best when not sealed away in a backpack https://t.co/0u5x3a70vX
— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) October 10, 2021
T cells are normal in kids w/ MIS-C.
Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children—MIS-C—is a serious condition linked w/ recent Covid infection. A UC San Diego team has found in a new study that T cell responses are normal despite contrarian hypotheses https://t.co/WGh5uAd81h pic.twitter.com/3rVZ1I1Ipl— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) October 10, 2021
A low-cost ventilator is now set to help people in low-income countries. Ventilators are required in ICUs where patients are debilitated by respiratory diseases. Designed in the UK, the ventilator is a fraction of a conventional machine’s cost https://t.co/I2EX002fyv
— delthia ricks 🔬 (@DelthiaRicks) October 10, 2021
Hawaii just became the first state to administer COVID vaccines to 90% of its residents 12 and older.
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 10, 2021
re: #129 Shropshire Slasher
Just don’t corner her in a restroom, that lacks class.
re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Just don’t corner her in a restroom, that lacks class.
Especially after she ran in there to avoid you.
re: #129 Shropshire Slasher
How the hell is Cinema running a marathon when she just had to go home “for a foot injury”, and returned wearing a protective boot?
.@NebraskaMegan during floor debate on when people ask if she has used marijuana: “Yes because I am 35 years old and normal.”
— State Senator Adam Morfeld (@Adam_Morfeld) May 12, 2021
LOL!
Glad my brownie camera is buried in the basement.
The “security incident” that forced a New-York bound flight to make an emergency landing at LaGuardia Airport on Saturday turned out to be a misunderstanding — after an airline passenger mistook another traveler’s camera for a bomb, sources said Sunday.
American Airlines Flight 4817 from Indianapolis — operated by Republic Airways — made an emergency landing at LaGuardia just after 3 p.m., and authorities took a suspicious passenger into custody for several hours.
It turns out the would-be “bomber” was just a vintage camera aficionado and the woman who reported him made a mistake, sources said.
re: #133 Decatur Deb
How the hell is Cinema running a marathon when she just had to go home “for a foot injury”, and returned wearing a protective boot?
A bunch of joggers should crowd around her and jog really slow. Not stop, just jeep her from getting any kind of speed.
re: #133 Decatur Deb
How the hell is Cinema running a marathon when she just had to go home “for a foot injury”, and returned wearing a protective boot?
re: #136 Belafon
A bunch of joggers should crowd around her and jog really slow. Not stop, just jeep her from getting any kind of speed.
That move is called the filibuster
re: #133 Decatur Deb
How the hell is Cinema running a marathon when she just had to go home “for a foot injury”, and returned wearing a protective boot?
Because she lies just like conservatives do?
re: #133 Decatur Deb
Someone should make a sign that says “I found your boot” while waving one at her.
One of the problems is that slavery is taught as the history of Black people and not the history of white people.
For the second time this year, the Met Police decide to take no further action on claims about Prince Andrew.
Officers reviewed the matter after the Prince’s accuser Virginia Giuffre filed her lawsuit in August claiming she had been sexually assaulted in London in 2001. pic.twitter.com/yq0hPCWCnS— Chris Ship (@chrisshipitv) October 11, 2021
GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!!
When I was 35, I was a mom of 8 kids and studying for my degree at ltu.edu. I graduated in 1986 with a BS in Math and Computer Science.
My first job was a contract programming in FORTRAN for a robotics system that would be installed at a tool factory owned by Textron. When the project was over I got pregnant again. After my youngest daughter was born I retired from pregnancy to focus on my career.
My next job was at GM Cadillac division where I provided IT support for the vehicle engineering group. I stayed there for 4 years until GM shut down that facility.
After that I worked a bunch of short term projects as a contractor, most of these contracts were at Ford but I also worked for other random employers.
I retired in 2018. I still get calls from recruiters almost every day but I like being retired and having time to travel and visit all my grandkids.
The sun is up, so it’s past my bedtime.
Currently sunny and a big 31°F here. I’m glad we have a furnace now.
Tomorrow we’re slated for thunderstorms.
re: #9 teleskiguy
I haven’t been to the range in over two years but I know I can still outshoot 98% of those idiots. I don’t have a shotgun (yet), but that’s soon to be a thing. All my stuff is 9mm just for the consistency. I can plink pretty damn well at 100 yards with my decked-out CZ Scorpion.
re: #17 teleskiguy
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That said, life is good. I’m on vacation for two weeks, I’ve been at my mom’s for the last six days and we haven’t tried to kill each other, she’s snoozing on the couch behind me, I have a cup of coffee next to me and it’s 61 degrees outside. I just got finished watering the lawn. Again, life is good.
re: #149 William Lewis
Good morning lizards from warm sunny and breezy Memphis. Just had breakfast and are going to vist a couple of her friends so they can decide if I am acceptable for her.
Oh, it’s getting serious now. You’re getting the friend test. Do your best to make a good impression, my friend. ;)
re: #150 Dopamine Fish
Oh, it’s getting serious now. You’re getting the friend test. Do your best to make a good impression, my friend. ;)
I’m more worried about Thanksgiving with her parents! ;)
The “umbrella man” who was seen on video in Minneapolis smashing store windows with a sledgehammer and encouraging people to steal, has been identified as a person associated with the Aryan Cowboys — a white supremacist prison and street gang. https://t.co/mdQUkVieYo
— Naveed Jamali (@NaveedAJamali) October 11, 2021
I run most days but I have 2 kids & a not-terribly-world-important-job so training for a marathon wouldn’t be an option for me now. Kyrsten Sinema has a whole state to look out for & a job meant to be of *some* significance—and she’s running the Boston Marathon?
— Jeff Sharlet (@JeffSharlet) October 11, 2021
re: #153 jaunte
Ordinarily, I would cut the Senator some slack for running the Boston Marathon, as that’s a notable event and potentially a platform from which to do outreach and promotion of your agenda. Senators are people too, and are allowed to participate in activities they enjoy. What’s not cool is that she’s running around doing all this stuff, in-state and out-of-state, while explicitly ducking her constituents, who are growing increasingly frustrated with her inaccessibility and her steadfast refusal to listen or acknowledge their concerns or redress their grievances. If she was a good Senator and listened and talked - then I’d be OK with this. But she’s not.
Are we really stuck with her until 2024?
Sigh…
Whew. I just got done with hanging my new shower curtain and liner.
re: #151 William Lewis
I’m more worried about Thanksgiving with her parents! ;)
Draftee Spec5 me got to ask an E8 combat veteran of two wars for his daughter’s hand. (That’s the way it was done.)
Umm… WTF?
LOL okay the Wall Street Journal has published an essay by Gary Kasparov decrying as historical revisionism any skepticism of Columbus’s motives and achievements even though Kasparov is a Fomenkoist New Chronoloigist who believes that history began in the year 800 AD.
— Jacob Bacharach (@jakebackpack) October 11, 2021
Holding Columbus to modern standards of cultural decency is historical revisionism of the kind I suffered through in the Soviet Union. Also, Jesus was a Greek guy named Andronikos I Komnenos who was born in Crimea and crucified in the city of Troy in 1180 AD.
— Jacob Bacharach (@jakebackpack) October 11, 2021
And here I thought YEC’s were cray-cray… 👀
https://t.co/rLQFkIFqeL
It’s a really strange conspiracy theory. Biblical Jerusalem was not in actual Jerusalem but in Constantinople. Which was also ancient Troy.
Gary Kasparov believes in this.— Камерон (@forkboy84) October 11, 2021
re: #160 Teukka
Garry needs to get some fresh air into his system and a lot more exercise.
We can credit Columbus for establishing permanent contact between the Americas and Europe, something which greatly impacted the course of humanity.
He has been sold to us as a story of a plucky explorer who stuck to his dream and pushed the boundaries of human knowledge.
There is a bit of that about him, but there are other aspects of him that were cruel and inhumane even by the standards of his time.
re: #97 Dread Pirate Ron
I have 2 electric bikes, Pedego Comfort Cruiser with about 2600 miles, and a Pedego Interceptor with just over 4000 miles. I love them, they make me exercise more and I get out and see so much fun stuff. Highly recommend them for anyone!
re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He was a pussycat compared to Cortes.
re: #160 Teukka
Nutty nationalism:
“…Why has Antoly Fomenko devoted the last four decades of his life to correlating lists of kings in an effort to prove that there’s only a quarter of as much history as you think there is? Is he just insane? Well, yes, almost certainly. But there’s an important aspect to his thesis that I haven’t mentioned yet. You see, one of the implications of all this chronological rejiggerin’ is that apparently the dominant power in Europe and Asia for most of human history was a Slavic-Turkic Empire he calls the “Russian Horde”.
Ah. I see.
There was never any Mongol conquest of Russia. Instead, Genghis Khan was a Russian, as were the Scythians, Huns, Goths, Ukrainians, Cossacks and pretty much every other Steppe tribe he can find ever mentioned in history. Moscow was the Third Rome, following after Alexandria and Constantinople. Under the reign of Genghis Khan (who’s founding of the Horde inspired the story of Romulus and Remus apparently) the Russian Horde spread out across the world.”
….
“…I don’t think I need to bother “debunking” this. It’s an attempt to rewrite world history into a Russian ultra-nationalist fever dream, based off of some correlated star charts and lists of monarchs. It makes no effort to even engage with 90% of historical evidence. In 2004 his English publisher announced a $10,000 prize for anyone who could prove the existence of a human artifact from before 1000 AD, so long as they didn’t use “archaeological, dendrochronological, paleographical and carbon methods.” Sure, why not guys. Fomenko embodies two stereotypes perfectly: the scientist who decides to try and impose his own methods on other disciplines to “solve” their problems and the nationalist who miraculously discovers that all of human history actually revolves around his own country…”
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re: #167 JOE 🥓
And a Happy Day Off Of Work to everyone.
Instead of Columbus, I’ll salute a REAL Italian-American who lived the American Dream and generated lots of jobs in was was an impoverished part of Pennsylvania.
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re: #166 jaunte
Nutty nationalism:
“In 2004 his English publisher announced a $10,000 prize for anyone who could prove the existence of a human artifact from before 1000 AD, so long as they didn’t use “archaeological, dendrochronological, paleographical and carbon methods.”
Somewhere around here I’ve got a mint pharaonic quarter that’s clearly dated “1451 BC”.
re: #166 jaunte
Nothing we do not see with “Biblical scholars” like Ken Ham teaching us the “Truth” about Noah and the Dinosaurs…
re: #73 Targetpractice
Yeah, I’ve never gotten into the whole “torture porn” genre of films because of hang-ups over stuff like that. Hence why it turned into a chore to get through the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and why I refuse to watch any of the Saw franchise.
The only excessively violent films I can tolerate — and even there my eyes are closed for the worse scenes — are “Kill Bill” and, while brutal and over-the-top fantasy, they are not really “torture porn”.
Another libertarian/right-wing opportunist came up to Minneapolis to spread violence. Broken systems seem to attract this kind of attention.
Texas Boogaloo Boy Admits In Court He Traveled to Minneapolis After George Floyd Died, Fired 13 Shots In Police Precinct Building to Sow Chaos
A Texas man pleaded guilty on Sept. 30 to a federal riot charge, and admitted he traveled to Minneapolis after George Floyd died to sow mayhem.
Ivan Harrison Hunter, 24, admitted he traveled from the San Antonio area to Minneapolis after Floyd’s death and fired 13 shots from an AK-47 style semiautomatic rifle into the Minneapolis Police Department’s Third Precinct building on May 28, 2020.
…snip…
Looters were thought to be inside the building at the time; no one was injured by gunfire, according to a release from the Department of Justice.
…snip…
Federal agents identified Hunter as the shooter after spotting him wearing the same skull mask in a Facebook photo. After the protest, Hunter bragged on social media about his actions, saying he’d “helped the community burn down that police station in Minneapolis.”
re: #170 Decatur Deb
Somewhere around here I’ve got a mint pharaonic quarter that’s clearly dated “1451 BC”.
But is it the limited edition with Abraham Lincolns face on it?
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re: #170 Decatur Deb
Somewhere around here I’ve got a mint pharaonic quarter that’s clearly dated “1451 BC”.
“So long as you don’t provide evidence, prove to us it’s an old thing.” I’m thinking the Greek and Roman buildings still standing are evidence of things older thank 1000AD.
re: #175 Belafon
“So long as you don’t provide evidence, prove to us it’s an old thing.” I’m thinking the Greek and Roman buildings still standing are evidence of things older thank 1000AD.
They are doing that with CRT: forbidding any personal sources, diaries or literary depictions of life as a slave.
#DoNotComply tweeted by people who said George Floyd wouldn’t have died if he just complied.
— 💀SexualAnarchyViking💀 (@DeathMetalV) October 11, 2021
re: #177 DodgerFan1988
Ironically, in this case, these people most likely won’t die if they just comply.
re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Via The Friendly Atheist:
Right-Wing Activist Who Said He Was “Vaccinated in Christ” Dies of Covid
The man is Pete Coulson. He spent the last months of his life starting in June appointed to a task force created by Idaho Lieutenant Governor Janet McGeachin to “weed out” left-leaning curricula in Idaho K-12 public schools.
McGeechin curiously avoided the cause of death when she made the announcement he’d died. (Not curious, all conservatives are liars.)
She needs to be made redundant/obsolete next year. Hell, you know you’ve screwed the pooch big time when even the Idaho GOP wants you driven from the ballot during the next primary and are practically begging Dems to cross party lines and vote in their precious closed primary race.
re: #177 DodgerFan1988
Speaking of “Do Not Comply”, there’s a good friend of mine who works for a local defense contractor. One of the largest employers in our area. Good paying jobs too. He’s been there for quite a while now and is good at what he does.
This contractor is requiring all employees to be vaccinated (as in at least have their first shot) by 11/3. My friend is a genuinely good guy but he’s also very anti-vax and is currently deciding whether or not to get the shot or start looking for a new job.
I’m hoping to steer him towards getting the shot so we’ll see what happens. Wish me luck.
re: #177 DodgerFan1988
#DoNotComply tweeted by people who said George Floyd wouldn’t have died if he just complied.
Ashley Babbitt would be alive if she had just complied!
re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg
Every defense contractor is requiring it, though mine is giving people until December 18th. He won’t be able to go to another defense contractor to find an escape.
re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg
For a lot of us, it was “first available”. Whatever brand/technology was at the appointment site. Now they have a chance to pick and choose. If they are not comfortable with mRNA, then J&J will do.
re: #183 Rightwingconspirator
For a lot of us, it was “first available”. Whatever brand/technology was at the appointment site. Now they have a chance to pick and choose. If they are not comfortable with mRNA, then J&J will do.
I was ready to take whatever was offered me, heck, I would have opted for Sputnik…I just wanted to get vaxxed, my nerves were frayed and I wanted to be able to get out and perform basic tasks without worrying.
re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I was ready to take whatever was offered me, heck, I would have opted for Sputnik…I just wanted to get vaxxed, my nerves were frayed and I wanted to be able to get out and perform basic tasks without worrying.
I took the J&J vaccine because I still served at church, and despite them nominally following protocols, they were absolutely not safe about it. (In fact, their staff is again getting rocked, this time by the Delta variant. Anti-vaxxer dumb fucks.)
I have to say I haven’t received this much pushback on this piece the last four years I’ve posted it. Why do people get so mad about me writing about my own personal experience as a kid?? Why not curiosity, or like, huh, I never would have known that? Honestly wondering 🤷🏾♀️ https://t.co/PIRt9QtxUf
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) October 11, 2021
Columbus Day is a big opportunity for white men to push back at people of other ethnicities speaking their minds.
re: #161 PhillyPretzel
Garry needs to get some fresh air into his system and a lot more exercise.
WTH? Lol, has he said anywhere that he believes this?
re: #187 jaunte
Columbus Day is a big opportunity for white men to push back at people of other ethnicities speaking their minds.
Op-ed at newsmax:
“Nations who cannot agree on who to honor have a problem”
re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And they have a problem with democracy.
re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Who should be honored and who shouldn’t be changes with the passage of time.
re: #167 JOE 🥓
And a Happy Day Off Of Work to everyone.
Instead of Columbus, I’ll salute a REAL Italian-American who lived the American Dream and generated lots of jobs in was was an impoverished part of Pennsylvania.
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Ettore Boiardi Boiardi’s packaged spaghetti dinner was introduced in 1929, just in time for the Great Depression. At one point, his factory in Milton Pa grew its own mushrooms on site. When I was a kid, my mother bought the big cans of Chef Boyardee products as kind of a backup if she didn’t have time to prepare a scratch made meal for the mob (I’ve mentioned that I am the oldest of eight children). I don’t particularly like most of the current products, especially beef-a-roni. The canned ravioli stuff is good, though, mostly because you can cook it in the oven and add extra meat and cheese. Spaghetti-Os with meatballs are also tolerable. I have both in my emergency food stash, much more of the ravioli.
On last night’s thread, Charles posted the Flea-MonoNeon video ‘Coffee,’ and I posted the ‘Crying Japanese Politician’ video and the insurrectionist ‘I Got Maced’ video, because people making music out of non-musical sounds is cool.
But this one…this one may be the greatest of all time. Courtesy of Chris Stein from Blondie. Sound on!
Greatest moments in entertainment history part 6 pic.twitter.com/dObnbjjNLk
— Chris Stein (@chrissteinplays) October 11, 2021
re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg
Who should be honored and who shouldn’t be changes with the passage of time.
We can recognize individuals who played a major role in shaping history without having to idolize or idealize them…
re: #192 Belafon
One Google search result:
His most recent statement from that page isn’t horrible, per se.
re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Op-ed at newsmax:
“Nations who cannot agree on who to honor have a problem”
Someone else was honored a lot by his home country until he wasn’t.
re: #196 JC1
We were taught about Columbus opening up the New World and how he was a hero for pursuing his dream and vision.
We were taught very little about how badly he treated the natives.
I used to totally admire Thomas Jefferson, he was my favorite Founding Father until I started reading about Sally Hemmings and his notes on how he seriall raped his female slaves to produce “higher quality” slaves with light skin…
re: #196 JC1
His most recent statement from that page isn’t horrible, per se.
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I read some of the quotes, and what cracked me up was that supposed mathematicians were somehow applying mathematics to history and it wasn’t adding up so they were correcting it. But it definitely is a Russian nationalist view of history.
re: #196 JC1
His most recent statement from that page isn’t horrible, per se.
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He appears to be skeptical about everything— both the traditional narrative and these bizarre new myths. It seemed to me that much of the earlier discussion reported not Kasparov’s verified actual words but their claims about what he said.
re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg
Who should be honored and who shouldn’t be changes with the passage of time.
Few statues have ever been raised for people who don’t show blood up to the elbows, or worse.
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re: #201 Decatur Deb
Few statues have ever been raised for people who don’t show blood up to the elbows, or worse.
When we look at those statues, we need to also look at the people who raised them, and when and where and why.
re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We were taught about Columbus opening up the New World and how he was a hero for pursuing his dream and vision.
We were taught very little about how badly he treated the natives.
I used to totally admire Thomas Jefferson, he was my favorite Founding Father until I started reading about Sally Hemmings and his notes on how he seriall raped his female slaves to produce “higher quality” slaves with light skin…
I try not to judge historical figures by the standards of today. Was Columbus worse than the average European explorer/sea captain of the time? Was Jefferson worse than the average upper class Virginian?
re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We can recognize individuals who played a major role in shaping history without having to idolize or idealize them…
Recognize, yes. In books and historical media.
Celebrate, no. A civilized nation wouldn’t have statues, streets, and holidays named for people who were even considered to be monsters in their own time, and ideally wouldn’t have them for monsters who were considered to be OK in their dark time.
re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
When we look at those statues, we need to also look at the people who raised them, and when and where and why.
Ramses II, genocidal anti-semite
re: #204 JC1
I try not to judge historical figures by the standards of today. Was Columbus worse than the average European explorer/sea captain of the time? Was Jefferson worse than the average upper class Virginian?
Jefferson may have been better than his peers, but Columbus was considered to be a monster in his own time.
re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter
Here’s Kasparov’s original writing on the topic that is mentioned in the link I supplied:
re: #206 Decatur Deb
Another good point. One countries hero is anothers oppressor and murderer.
re: #204 JC1
I try not to judge historical figures by the standards of today. Was Columbus worse than the average European explorer/sea captain of the time? Was Jefferson worse than the average upper class Virginian?
From accounts, Columbus was pretty nasty. And there were some Virginia Slaveholders who did not sleep with their slaves to produce light-colored offspring.
Again, I recognize Jefferson’s contributions to democracy but no longer idolize him to any extent. Human rights, democracy and freedom are all part of an ongoing process, they will always be imperfect but the point of our nation was to create a More Perfect Union, not a Utopia.
re: #205 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Recognize, yes. In books and historical media.
Celebrate, no. A civilized nation wouldn’t have statues, streets, and holidays named for people who were even considered to be monsters in their own time, and ideally wouldn’t have them for monsters who were considered to be OK in their dark time.
And this is the gist of the “remove Confederate monuments” movement: It’s not that Jeff Davis, Rob Lee, and the rest were outstandingly awful people for their time, it’s that the Confederate South is a dark stain on the legacy of the United States. (Nathan Bedford Forrest was absolutely an asshole, and he never should’ve had a statue at all.) We shouldn’t be celebrating any of them, not because their peers considered them bad people, but because we are in a position to adjudge them AND their peers as ALL bad people.
re: #48 A Three Hour Tour
People are getting tired of antisocial assholes using them as targets for vehicular homicide attempts.
Yep, they stood their ground
re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter
He appears to be skeptical about everything— both the traditional narrative and these bizarre new myths. It seemed to me that much of the earlier discussion reported not Kasparov’s verified actual words but their claims about what he said.
Those looking for modern-age moral or intellectual purity amongst any one of legions of famous and revered historical figures will more than likely come up disappointed.
For instance, Sir Isaac Newton was a brilliant mathematician. He was also a psuedo-Biblical scholar hack, a cat-chasing its tail alchemist, a numerologist, and practiced certain other woo-filled realms of ignorance or stupidity as judged by the modern scientific method.
I can still revere those who moved the world forward towards enlightenment and still call them out on issues that still reverberate today.
re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
When we look at those statues, we need to also look at the people who raised them, and when and where and why.
It’s not as though the Americas would never have been discovered if Columbus had not ventured to cross the ocean. Yes, many captains of his time would not have tried it because knowing the approximate size of the Earth without knowing of the existence of another continent and given the limits of their technology, they believed it was far too dangerous of a journey with too little reward. But sometime, likely within a few decades of his historic voyage, someone else would have made this journey though history would have likely evolved in a very different direction and none of us commenting here would ever have existed.
re: #207 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Jefferson may have been better than his peers, but Columbus was considered to be a monster in his own time.
From Wikipedia:
The punishment for an indigenous person, aged 14 and older, failing to fill a hawk’s bell of gold dust (based on Bartolomé de las Casas’ account, about $400 in 2021 currency)every three months was cutting off the hands of those without tokens, often leaving them to bleed to death. Columbus had an economic interest in the enslavement of the Hispaniola natives and for that reason was not eager to baptize them, which attracted criticism from some churchmen. Consuelo Varela, a Spanish historian who has seen the report, states that “Columbus’s government was characterised by a form of tyranny. Even those who loved him had to admit the atrocities that had taken place.
Many of the early North American colonizers were ginormous assholes in their own right.
re: #214 Hecuba’s daughter
It’s not as though the Americas would never have been discovered if Columbus had not ventured to cross the ocean. Yes, many captains of his time would not have tried it because knowing the approximate size of the Earth without knowing of the existence of another continent and given the limits of their technology, they believed it was far too dangerous of a journey with too little reward. But sometime, likely within a few decades of his historic voyage, someone else would have made this journey though history would have likely evolved in a very different direction and none of us commenting here would ever have existed.
The ostensible motivation for Columbus’s journey was to find an alternate trade route to the Far East for the lucrative spice trade. That pressure never really eased until the advent of the Suez Canal. Inevitably, someone would have been brave enough to sail west, once the reward was worth the risk.
I can admire generals like Lee or Stonewall Jackson as military figures without glamorizing the cause they fought for. The same goes for Napoleon, Rommel or Zhukov.
A recall a quote from a Civil War blog page (to paraphrase): “As I read about the war, I cheer for Lee, Jackson and Longstreet, but as I live and breathe, I thank God for Grant, Meade and Sherman.”
re: #214 Hecuba’s daughter
It’s not as though the Americas would never have been discovered if Columbus had not ventured to cross the ocean.
So the old Raiders of the Lost Ark plot hole?
re: #211 Dopamine Fish
And this is the gist of the “remove Confederate monuments” movement: It’s not that Jeff Davis, Rob Lee, and the rest were outstandingly awful people for their time, it’s that the Confederate South is a dark stain on the legacy of the United States
The Forrest monument is on private property, and if you want to honor them that way, then I guess that is your good right.
But they do not deserve a spot on any public property or any public funds for their construction and maintenance.
The only place a Confederate flag should be flown on public property is in a museum or historic site with the proper context given.
re: #207 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Jefferson may have been better than his peers, but Columbus was considered to be a monster in his own time.
Check out the rest of the conquistadores. Stealing two continents is not work for wusses.
re: #211 Dopamine Fish
And this is the gist of the “remove Confederate monuments” movement: It’s not that Jeff Davis, Rob Lee, and the rest were outstandingly awful people for their time, it’s that the Confederate South is a dark stain on the legacy of the United States. (Nathan Bedford Forrest was absolutely an asshole, and he never should’ve had a statue at all.) We shouldn’t be celebrating any of them, not because their peers considered them bad people, but because we are in a position to adjudge them AND their peers as ALL bad people.
Forrest’s statue is the best of them all. It really captures his insanity.
re: #216 Dopamine Fish
The ostensible motivation for Columbus’s journey was to find an alternate trade route to the Far East for the lucrative spice trade. That pressure never really eased until the advent of the Suez Canal. Inevitably, someone would have been brave enough to sail west, once the reward was worth the risk.
And we would have statues and cities named for Herschel Schwarz.
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