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Bomphrey, R., Nakata, T., Phillips, N. et al. Smart wing rotation and trailing-edge vortices enable high frequency mosquito flight. Nature 544, 92–95 (2017). https://doi.org/10.1038/nature21727

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 11, 2021 • 8:32:02pm

Mosquitos? Heh, that’s why I have Hummingbird feeders and a Bat nesting box.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 11, 2021 • 8:43:02pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2021 • 8:43:52pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Mosquitos? Heh, that’s why I have Hummingbird feeders and a Bat nesting box.

Dragonflies. Lots of them

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 11, 2021 • 8:44:03pm

LOL

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 11, 2021 • 8:49:43pm
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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2021 • 8:55:51pm
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sagehen  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:07:55pm

Capitol Police whistleblower delivers scathing rebuke to 2 of its senior leaders Jan. 6
“The whistleblower alleges, among multiple serious allegations, that former acting chief Yogananda Pittman lied to Congress about an intelligence report Capitol Police received before that day’s riot.”

This letter is fucking vicious.

The whistleblower accused Pittman of lying to Congress about a key intelligence report the department received in late December. That report noted that a blog called “thedonald.win” posted a map of the Capitol campus, and that commenters on the site called for protesters to carry guns and confront members of Congress on Jan. 6.

Pittman told congressional investigators in April that a cohort of senior officials in the department were also aware of that intelligence before the attack. The whistleblower claimed in his letter, however, that other officials did not receive the intelligence report, and that Pittman lied when she said they did.

If true, we’ve found felonious co-conspirators.

The whistleblower also said he spent hours during the attack in the Capitol Police’s Command Center with Pittman and Gallagher, claiming that they did little to stop the violence. The whistleblower’s presence in the command center on Jan. 6 was confirmed by two other law enforcement officials and a third person who was there during the attack.

Those three people gave different accounts of how long the whistleblower was there. One of the people said he was there for six hours, another said he was there for “several” hours and a third said he was there for less than two hours.

“What I observed was them mostly sitting there, blankly looking at the TV screens showing real time footage of officers and officials fighting for the Congress and their lives,” the whistleblower wrote.

“It is my allegation that these two with intent and malice opted to not try and assist the officers and officials, blame others for the failures, and chose to try and use this event for their own personal promotions,” he added. “This was done not after the even[t] but while officers and officials were still fighting the demonstrators.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:09:13pm

“… Frendreis could not be reached for comment Monday night. She previously wrote on TikTok: “five beers in, and taking my leg off to catch a ball seemed like a great idea.” …”

The Girl Took Off Her Prosthetic Leg To Catch A Baseball 🤯 | Highlight #Shorts

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:12:51pm

Nice rack…

Click to Reveal
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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:13:49pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Related:

This is why I just find myself sighing in resignation at the latest ‘Dems are bad at messaging and thus to blame for losing support’ campaign I’m seeing now.

It’s extremely fucking hard to have a good messaging effort when the MSM refuses to even act like you have a platform, and instead literally lets your opponents define you to exclusion. It’s a ‘if a tree falls in the woods’ situation, except you have a party dedicated to convincing everyone that the tree never fell to begin with.

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:14:04pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate Ron

Nice rack…

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Hard to balance on rough ground, I betcha.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:14:56pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Mosquitos? Heh, that’s why I have Hummingbird feeders and a Bat nesting box.

4 of us used to get together monthly for shopping when we all lived in suburban Chicago and now we meet occasionally over Zoom. One friend who now lives in a senior development in Arizona told us this afternoon that a resident there passed away a few days ago from West Nile virus. The entire development was then sprayed with insecticide.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:21:40pm

re: #11 retired cynic

Hard to balance on rough ground, I betcha.

Without that high center of gravity it’s easy.

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:22:13pm

re: #13 Dread Pirate Ron

I meant the rack!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:29:38pm

re: #14 retired cynic

I want the Jeep version of his bike, but it’s $8000. Oh, to be rich.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:33:10pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate Ron

Nice rack…

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Obligatory:

The Naked Gun - Nice Beaver

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darthstar  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:35:36pm

Saw a pic of Christopher Cross playing a double-neck guitar today and had a real WTF moment…given the level of jam I associate with him…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:40:15pm

The Nobel prize winner in economics used data from… lottery winners! (And losers.)

Stanford economist Guido Imbens wins Nobel in economic sciences

..

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:50:30pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:53:32pm

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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That will be legendary.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 11, 2021 • 9:53:50pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:05:03pm

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I went and read the story, and further googling led to a lot of stories on this. Some of them say the person with the artificial leg caught it and some say her friend used the leg, and the truth is that the friend used the leg, but none of the articles mention the friend’s name.

I also googled her, and found her Tik Tok: tiktok.com. I’m not going to say this too often, but she is a hottie. And she got her leg amputated because of rheumatoid arthritis. She had been on crutches for four years and multiple surgeries and this has been a better solution. She would also like some ideas on halloween costumes that incorporate the leg.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:06:10pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:10:48pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:10:51pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I hope to get as old as Klaus Obermeyer, Aspen’s first ski instructor. He’ll be 102 Ullr willing, this December. Still skis on occasion.

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:10:57pm

re: #22 Belafon

She would also like some ideas on halloween costumes that incorporate the leg.

Is pirate too obvious?

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:11:59pm

re: #26 sagehen

Is pirate too obvious?

Lot’s of people suggested pirate. I’m thinking half robot half human.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:12:19pm

re: #26 sagehen

Is pirate too obvious?

Maybe some kind of robot would work.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:12:45pm

re: #27 Belafon

20 seconds.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:13:41pm

The only thing about a robot is I think she wants something funny.

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:14:12pm

The first person to ski Grand Teton, Bill Briggs, is still alive. He’ll be 90 in December.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:18:04pm

Some thoughts:

Planet Terror had a character with a machine gun for a leg.
Dress it up like Negan’s baseball bat from the Walking Dead.

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:24:25pm

re: #30 Belafon

The only thing about a robot is I think she wants something funny.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:25:07pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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“Let’s be honest, this is not the worst thing you’ve caught us doing.”

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:26:58pm

re: #24 Dave In Austin

After watching Doctor Who and Torchwood, I assume every being from outside earth is open with their sexual preferences.

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BeachDem  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:28:24pm

This story, complete with Twitter thread, about cnn’s Andrew Kaczynski’s Boston marathon run is just so sweet. (Ran in honor of his baby girl who died and dedicated each mile to a kid with cancer.) Raised some serious cash as well.

bostonglobe.com

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sagehen  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:29:33pm

Who says extraterrestrials have the same number and type of genders as earthlings? I vividly remember a sci-fi story (Asimov maybe?) where the alien race had 3 genders and reproduction could only take place within a triad.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:30:41pm

Finally finished episode 2 of Foundation.

It was a slog. Took me a week.

No spoilers here, but I think the problem, for me, is that the producers want me to care about characters (lots of high drama) without me being attached to them first.

Lots of production value, but not enough character work for emotional investment.

Instead, so far through two episodes the show seems to be an essay on leaders and leadership. Sort of dry, too esoteric.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:32:18pm

re: #30 Belafon

The only thing about a robot is I think she wants something funny.

Cliff from Doom Patrol is pretty funny. 😂

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:33:49pm

Tag:

This is the first entry tagged: Bebbies

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:44:29pm

re: #37 sagehen

Who says extraterrestrials have the same number and type of genders as earthlings? I vividly remember a sci-fi story (Asimov maybe?) where the alien race had 3 genders and reproduction could only take place within a triad.

In the novel for 2001: a space odyssey that was the case. The novel was by Arthur C Clarke based on the screenplay by him and Stanley Kubrick. The aliens in this case were the ones who planted the monoliths on earth and the moon. The story barley mentions this, but the author believed that being on different genders would mean there would be no sexual attraction. Doesn’t really work that way, but back in the sixties they didn’t really deal with homosexuality very well.

Does the fact that I know the above make me a nerd?

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:51:00pm

re: #22 Belafon

Why the downvote, cranky one?

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teleskiguy  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:58:12pm

re: #42 Belafon

Long ago I stopped even questioning down dings, which happen for me occasionally. Sometimes it’s fat fingers (accidental), a lot of times it’s a community member that just plain didn’t like your comment. It happens. We got karma to burn, brah.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2021 • 10:58:20pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:01:20pm

re: #41 I Would Prefer Not To

In the novel for 2001: a space odyssey that was the case. The novel was by Arthur C Clarke based on the screenplay by him and Stanley Kubrick. The aliens in this case were the ones who planted the monoliths on earth and the moon. The story barley mentions this, but the author believed that being on different genders would mean there would be no sexual attraction. Doesn’t really work that way, but back in the sixties they didn’t really deal with homosexuality very well.

Does the fact that I know the above make me a nerd?

By contrast, in the novel Contact, you had an actual scientist (Carl Sagan) criticizing that mindset by writing a scene in the main character’s background about the narrow-minded view of many in not only academia but also society regarding aliens. Ellie recalls a group project she took part in when studying at Harvard where the group was supposed to come up with a design for a hypothetical alien life form. Only for the professor to criticize what they came up with because it lacked features like an anus, figuring that any life forms encountered beyond Earth would evolve in exactly the same way as we did.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:03:35pm

re: #43 teleskiguy

Long ago I stopped even questioning down dings, which happen for me occasionally. Sometimes it’s fat fingers (accidental), a lot of times it’s a community member that just plain didn’t like your comment. It happens. We got karma to burn, brah.

Understood. Curious, though, none the less.

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A Cranky One  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:06:32pm

re: #42 Belafon

Why the downvote, cranky one?

Cause I’m using my phone and have fat fingers. Fixed.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:07:39pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:08:52pm
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:10:11pm

re: #47 A Cranky One

Cause I’m using my phone and have fat fingers. Fixed.

Thanks. Not a big deal, as t’guy said. I probably should get over the innate “someone didn’t think highly of me at this moment.”

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A Cranky One  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:13:06pm

re: #50 Belafon

Thanks. Not a big deal, as t’guy said. I probably should get over the innate “someone didn’t think highly of me at this moment.”

Especially if they’re known to be Cranky.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:13:12pm

re: #48 Belafon

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I’m so old, I remember when the wingnut chant was “FREEDOM ISN’T FREE!”

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:17:07pm

I forget if I mentioned this last week, but one of my coworkers had been battling cancer for the last few years. She’d had ups and downs, had lost her hair due to chemo, had grown it back because she had come off because the cancer was in remission. Last Monday, though, we got an announcement that he had immediately retired because her health had suddenly declined. She had gone into the hospital, but they announced that she would be moved home for hospice care, and that people would be able to see her. But that never happened. She passed away Saturday.

I had thought about visiting her, but I got to wondering how do you have a conversation with someone at that point. “How are you doing?” is just not the right question.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:17:26pm

re: #37 sagehen

Who says extraterrestrials have the same number and type of genders as earthlings? I vividly remember a sci-fi story (Asimov maybe?) where the alien race had 3 genders and reproduction could only take place within a triad.

Asimov — The Gods Themselves

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 11, 2021 • 11:19:57pm
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gwangung  Oct 12, 2021 • 12:03:15am

re: #24 Dave In Austin

Well, the new Aquaman (he shares the title with the old one) IS gay…..

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Oct 12, 2021 • 12:14:10am

re: #37 sagehen

Who says extraterrestrials have the same number and type of genders as earthlings? I vividly remember a sci-fi story (Asimov maybe?) where the alien race had 3 genders and reproduction could only take place within a triad.

The aliens in the Alien Nation series were like that as well. There was a 3rd gender/sex that was required for having children.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 12, 2021 • 12:22:31am

re: #37 sagehen

Who says extraterrestrials have the same number and type of genders as earthlings? I vividly remember a sci-fi story (Asimov maybe?) where the alien race had 3 genders and reproduction could only take place within a triad.

The Gods Themselves

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 1:45:07am

re: #35 Belafon

After watching Doctor Who and Torchwood, I assume every being from outside earth is open with their sexual preferences.

Science fiction is one of the ways we project our current mores and cultural obsessions on our view of the (near) future. In the 50’s, it was alien overlords wanting to come eat (or wash) our brains: i.e. the Red Menace from Space.

And the big thing that made Star Trek was its view of a future of humanity where race, gender and nationality were irrelevant: we all managed to maintain and express our individuality while working towards a common higher goal.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2021 • 1:50:36am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the big thing that made Star Trek was its view of a future of humanity where race, gender and nationality were irrelevant: …

Maybe. What I know is that when ST:Discovery had gone but a couple of episodes the incels were in full whine mode.

Which brings me to Foundation. I glanced at the IMDB user reviews and oh boy, the whine and angst is pouring out.

What both shows indicate is that if women of color are the lead actors then a segment of the English speaking society are really, and I do mean really, threatened.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 1:54:31am

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Maybe. What I know is that when ST:Discovery had gone but a couple of episodes the incels were in full whine mode.

Which brings me to Foundation. I glanced at the IMDB user reviews and oh boy, the whine and angst is pouring out.

What both shows indicate is that if women of color are the lead actors then a segment of the English speaking society are really, and I do mean really, threatened.

The incels were are upset because SF does not go along with their brojected world view of submissive women and strong male leads (that was a typo but I let it stand)

I also recall the incels frothing over Fury Road, which amused me.

I am sure that the inclusion of strong female characters was a marketing decision: how to get more butts on seats. The souped-up rods, explosions and flame-shooting metal guitar scenes were already there for the male target group, but why not give them something that their girlfriends will want to see.

And that, in a nutshell, was the problem with the incels, they do not want girls in their Secret Tree Fort…

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2021 • 1:55:11am

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Maybe. What I know is that when ST:Discovery had gone but a couple of episodes the incels were in full whine mode.

Which brings me to Foundation. I glanced at the IMDB user reviews and oh boy, the whine and angst is pouring out.

What both shows indicate is that if women of color are the lead actors then a segment of the English speaking society are really, and I do mean really, threatened.

I’ve never had a problem with Michael Burnham because she’s a woman or black. I have a problem with her because the character as written is terrible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 1:56:14am

re: #62 Targetpractice

I’ve never had a problem with Michael Burnham because she’s a woman or black. I have a problem with her because the character as written is terrible.

For a character that occupies such a central role, she is rather weak.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:03:19am

re: #62 Targetpractice

I’ve never had a problem with Michael Burnham because she’s a woman or black. I have a problem with her because the character as written is terrible.

Oh for sure, ST:D has definite weaknesses when it comes to the writing of some of the characters. I found several, not just Burnham, to be really forced, a feeling of un-naturalness. And I also found it odd that the non-human characters felt more realistically human. And, too much Klingon. The first season overdosed on Klingon.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:03:57am

I still remember back when the creative staff were doing the convention circuit and giving magazine interviews, talking about their plans for the series and the direction of the storytelling. And when they said they were going to make a single character the focus, rather than going with the traditional ensemble cast where everybody has a chance at the limelight, I thought it had potential and it might work for a serialized series.

Then they announced that the character would be the never-spoken-of-before foster sister of Spock…and it just went downhill from there.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:06:18am

re: #65 Targetpractice

I sort of liked the sister-of-Spock idea. Two of the movies had already introduced the idea that Spock had relations other than were in the original series.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:08:36am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I sort of liked the sister-of-Spock idea. Two of the movies had already introduced the idea that Spock had relations other than were in the original series.

Perhaps an illegitimate child: they spawn far during Pon Farr

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:13:06am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I sort of liked the sister-of-Spock idea. Two of the movies had already introduced the idea that Spock had relations other than were in the original series.

When “long-lost relative of a man who series writers either explicitly or implicitly said was an only child” was one of the worst points of the worst film in the franchise, the idea should have been nuked from orbit the moment it was uttered in the writer’s room.

Basically every critic I’ve seen who made it through the first two seasons has said something to the effect of how the writers had so backed themselves into a corner, the only they could ever make the series canon was to write it out of existence. Which is basically what they did by sending the main cast to the far future and swearing everybody else to secrecy on penalty of treason.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:15:11am

re: #68 Targetpractice

…the only they could ever make the series canon was to write it out of existence. Which is basically what they did by sending the main cast to the far future and swearing everybody else to secrecy on penalty of treason.

The series actually gets better once they are banished to the future.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:17:35am

re: #68 Targetpractice

That far-future being a bit Andromeda-like. Even re-introducing some of that series’ terminology.

Oh, the irony of it all.

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steve_davis  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:21:45am

re: #37 sagehen

Who says extraterrestrials have the same number and type of genders as earthlings? I vividly remember a sci-fi story (Asimov maybe?) where the alien race had 3 genders and reproduction could only take place within a triad.

I can’t remember who, but I vaguely recall a sf story where a space crew is warned not to have sex with the natives, one of them does, and discovers he will be the father to several thousand offspring.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:22:24am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The series actually gets better once they are banished to the future.

Season 3 was a lot like Season 2: It started off with potential and it felt like the writers were taken heed of fan criticism about the previous season…and then they went back to “Where’s Michael?!” and it sort of feel off a damned cliff again.

It says a lot that the new series they’re hyping (Strange New Worlds) goes back to the old episodic format, though whether or not they’ll pull a NuWho “background plot that consumes the series finale” bit is still to be seen.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:26:21am

So called “science fiction” on the small and big screens is in a rut.

The same ideas get rerun over and over. And the production companies keep trying to milk every old franchise for the last penny.

And the obsession with space-opera is really tiring.

What I’d like to see:

A story set in the far future on Earth. Not a post-apocalyptic alien-invasion Earth. Just Earth. Say in 200k years. Follow human evolution along some path and see what the species is like in the future roughly of the same distance from us as we are today from the emergence of anatomically modern humans 200kya.

How about a time travel movie that doesn’t involve killing Hitler or saving JFK? (Again, those are two ruts well worn.) Why leave “Jesus” to the fundamentalists? Take off on the wretched evangelical movie AD33. Have some time travelers go back and mess with Roman Judea and sidetrack the whole destruction-of-Jerusalem/birth-of-Christianity bit, and have the travelers come back to the present in a non-monotheistically-dominated society. Let the Greco-Roman polytheism run its course in a different direction.

There are so may possibilities, but the money-bags in the production companies want to keep with their same old stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:33:31am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

. Have some time travelers go back and mess with Roman Judea and sidetrack the whole destruction-of-Jerusalem/birth-of-Christianity bit, and have the travelers come back to the present in a non-monotheistically-dominated society. Let the Greco-Roman polytheism run its course in a different direction.

Wasn’t there some Islamic Fundamentalist-funded film project about going back and preventing Jesus from being crucified so he would not come to be seen as the Messiah and Son of God but rather just another Islamic Prophet?

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steve_davis  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:35:02am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

For a character that occupies such a central role, she is rather weak.

Can anyone explain how the chubby, flakey gal made it into an elite space exploration unit? That’s the character I don’t get. Yes, she’s a genius, but so was Hawking, and no one suggested he join star fleet academy. Oh, and then there’s Kirk, who according to the relaunch, got called into action and finds himself captain of the enterprise, surrounded by a crew of other third year cadets. Pretty sure it doesn’t work that way, in any planet’s navy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:35:39am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wasn’t there some Islamic Fundamentalist-funded film project about going back and preventing Jesus from being crucified so he would not come to be seen as the Messiah and Son of God but rather just another Islamic Prophet?

Are you thinking of A.D. 33? It’s plot is similar to that. But it has been recut and re-edited by the producers and turned into a different movie, one arguably not as bad but also not as interesting.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:36:40am

My favorite series in recent years has been For All Mankind and one of the biggest reasons…is that it’s treading new ground. It’s not a “What if the South won?” or “What if Hitler won?” story, it stays pretty firmly within the realm of possibility while still playing a bit with historical events, and it deals seriously with all the implications of a Space Race that didn’t just come to a wheezing end by the 80s.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:38:50am

re: #77 Targetpractice

Not yet watched it, but based on your recommendation I put it on my watchlist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:42:10am

Every “What if the South had won?” scenario I have seen assumes that the Confederacy would have remained intact. Seems like they would most likely have fallen apart into individual states or factions at some point and even turned on each other.

Imagine if one or the other states had later on tried (in violation of the Confederate Constitution) to abolish slavery?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:51:12am

re: #77 Targetpractice

My favorite series in recent years has been For All Mankind and one of the biggest reasons…is that it’s treading new ground. It’s not a “What if the South won?” or “What if Hitler won?” story, it stays pretty firmly within the realm of possibility while still playing a bit with historical events, and it deals seriously with all the implications of a Space Race that didn’t just come to a wheezing end by the 80s.

The best part of The Man in the High Castle (the novel) is when one of the fascist characters gets ahold of the banned novel describing the world in which the Allies had won: where we sent television kits (with five-year batteries) to villages in the Third World and broadcast shows on how to build wells and irrigation and sanitation, how the whole world prospered and the American worker was the best-paid and most productive in the world…

The fascist reads and scoffs: “The plutocrats would never allow such a thing!

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:55:54am

Has anyone here watched La Brea? Is it worth my time?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:57:34am

We just started watching The Haunting of Bly Manor. Took a half-dozen episodes to finally pique my interest, but it is terribly well written and structured and now I am hooked.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2021 • 2:59:51am

re: #75 steve_davis

Can anyone explain how the chubby, flakey gal made it into an elite space exploration unit? That’s the character I don’t get. Yes, she’s a genius, but so was Hawking, and no one suggested he join star fleet academy. Oh, and then there’s Kirk, who according to the relaunch, got called into action and finds himself captain of the enterprise, surrounded by a crew of other third year cadets. Pretty sure it doesn’t work that way, in any planet’s navy.

Tilly? She’s Wesley Crusher without the post-second season character growth. The only reason she ended up on a ship before graduating the academy is because A) there was a war on and B) it was a science ship so they could make excuses for putting a cadet aboard.

And Kirk in the Abrams films? Totally plot contrivance, which they acknowledged in the second film only to then bend over backwards to justify.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 3:22:10am

re: #83 Targetpractice

And Kirk in the Abrams films? Totally plot contrivance, which they acknowledged in the second film only to then bend over backwards to justify.

I have the same problem with him as I do with most of the roles that Tom Cruise plays: although he is the protagonist, I am rooting for him to fail…

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 12, 2021 • 3:24:45am

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and SisyphusI

I read those books when I was younger and loved them. This is a TV series I know I am going to want to love, but it is sounding like it is underwhelming.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 3:33:28am

Good news for Pillow Guy:

Mike Lindell Inducted Into Christian ‘Hall of Fame’

Mike Lindell may be hated by big media and even shunned by Fox News, but his hero status among Christians was certified this week when he was inducted into the Roaring Lambs Hall of Fame Saturday.

Other Hall of Famers include Louie Gohmert, Todd Starnes and Alan West…

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Dangerman  Oct 12, 2021 • 3:34:07am

re: #22 Belafon

She would also like some ideas on halloween costumes that incorporate the leg.

“I-HOP” waitress

C’mon, you didnt all think it too????

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 3:44:51am

re: #87 Dangerman

“I-HOP” waitress

C’mon, you didnt all think it too????

Come on Eileen!

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 12, 2021 • 4:52:04am

A little closure on busted foot-gate.

Far-left demonstrators flew to Boston Monday to confront Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) over her opposition to the massive social spending bill being pushed by President Biden and Democratic congressional leaders — announcing their intention to do so as she ran the Boston Marathon.

Just one problem: Sinema didn’t run the race.

“While Kyrsten qualified for and attended the race, she could not run because of her continued recovery from a broken foot,” the senator’s spokesman John LaBombard told The Post in an email Monday night.

nypost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 4:57:53am

re: #89 Shropshire Slasher

A little closure on busted foot-gate.

nypost.com

so she flew to Boston to get the fuck away from her constituents in Arizona

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:00:44am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Good news for Pillow Guy:

Mike Lindell Inducted Into Christian ‘Hall of Fame’

Mike Lindell may be hated by big media and even shunned by Fox News, but his hero status among Christians was certified this week when he was inducted into the Roaring Lambs Hall of Fame Saturday.

Other Hall of Famers include Louie Gohmert, Todd Starnes and Alan West…

The “Christian Hall of Fame” reads like a laundry list of people Jesus himself would ban from Heaven.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:03:14am

Annual physical today, but not feeling my usual milk and cereal ( which I really do like ). Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:47:35am

Any update on Roosh, Laura Loomer, Ben Garrison or Alan West?

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:47:38am
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jeffreyw  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:50:24am

Gabe and his support cat, under the desk, because wind gusts.

Good morning!

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:51:39am

So I read this brief thread on Dr. Eastman’s justification for attempting to “de-certify” the election. This tweet jumped out at me:

What, exactly, happened in Hawaii in 1960? I assume it bears little resemblance to what they tried to make happen in 2020.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:54:46am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:55:12am

re: #94 Belafon

Democrats are always doomed. Still, we persist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:55:56am

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Democrats are always doomed. Still, we persist.

But no matter how many votes they get, they still wind up a minority…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2021 • 5:59:21am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But no matter how many votes they get, they still wind up a minority…

The structure no longer works. To change that we need a period of overwhelming Dem hegemony, and the only way that happens is after a truly catastrophic fuck-up. Like, 1929-level fuckup.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:14:34am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:15:29am

re: #101 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I’m sure the good Representative is aware that the former guy is clearly referring to the Big Lie, but it’s good to see him pointing out the truth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:26:05am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

The structure no longer works. To change that we need a period of overwhelming Dem hegemony, and the only way that happens is after a truly catastrophic fuck-up. Like, 1929-level fuckup.

There was a time when rural states elected Democratic senators. And not Republicans in sheep’s clothing like AZ and WV.

Georgia was a shockwave, I hope it is more of a harbinger than an outlier.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:29:30am

re: #96 Dopamine Fish

So I read this brief thread on Dr. Eastman’s justification for attempting to “de-certify” the election. This tweet jumped out at me:

What, exactly, happened in Hawaii in 1960? I assume it bears little resemblance to what they tried to make happen in 2020.

In the 1960 Hawai’i Presidential Election, it appeared that candidate Richard Nixon was ahead by 141 votes. A court-ordered recount was underway when the Republican governor of Hawai’i signed certification that Nixon had won.

Democratic electors in response issued a certificate saying John F. Kennedy won.

When the final recount was completed, Kennedy won the election by 115 votes, forcing the Republican governor to sign the Democratic certification.

Both certificates were then sent to Washington. Vice-President Nixon accepted the Democratic certificate signifying his loss when he counted the electoral votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:31:31am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

But none of this was in response to alleged “widespread voter fraud”, recounts are mandated when elections are that close.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:31:35am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the 1960 Hawai’i Presidential Election, it appeared that candidate Richard Nixon was ahead by 141 votes. A court-ordered recount was underway when the Republican governor of Hawai’i signed certification that Nixon had won.

Democratic electors in response issued a certificate saying John F. Kennedy won.

When the final recount was completed, Kennedy won the election by 115 votes, forcing the Republican governor to sign the Democratic certification.

Both certificates were then sent to Washington. Vice-President Nixon accepted the Democratic certificate signifying his loss when he counted the electoral votes.

So Hawaii 1960 is more akin to Florida 2000 than to AZ/GA/PA/WI/whatever the other two were 2020, except that the recount was completed in a timely fashion and the proper certificate was signed and approved.

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:32:54am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Everything that the opponents of Brexit said would happen is happening.

Brexit was a sham and a disaster that will never benefit the UK. Never.

All UK will see is higher prices and costs for goods and services, because they’re no longer in the EU. And those costs will be highest in the near term because of a lack of resources and the means of shipping them across the UK. Insufficient numbers of truckers and transport workers.

And that means needing all those foreigners that the Brexit supporters said weren’t necessary.

Xenophobes are idiots no matter where in the world they are.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:35:03am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But none of this was in response to alleged “widespread voter fraud”, recounts are mandated when elections are that close.

Yup, just a very close election. Moreover, Vice-President Mike Pence, in the position of Vice-President Richard Nixon, did the exact same thing: He certified his own loss.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:36:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:37:28am

re: #107 lawhawk

But Boris seems to act as if none of this was foreseeable or avoidable.

But he knows British character enough to frame it as “we’ll overcome any adversity and come out stronger. And we’ll show those Europeans what we’re made of! We don’t need a fancy Christmas, we’ll serve up a healthy heaping of sovereignty for pudding”

and get away with to a great extent.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:38:04am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But none of this was in response to alleged “widespread voter fraud”, recounts are mandated when elections are that close.

And there’s nothing wrong with alleging widespread voter fraud, IF AND ONLY IF the recounts then show that there was, actually, widespread voter fraud. The problem is that the Republicans demanded as many recounts as they could legally obtain (and even some that were of dubious legality, and that’s not even counting the post-election fraudits), and the results were so extremely similar as to be statistically identical. They simply refused to accept those results, and demanded that the state legislatures “do something” (i.e. the popular but widely discredited theory that the state legislatures could just choose to revoke the electors and appoint their own slate). And that appears to be what they were hoping for on 1/6, when they tried to derail the electoral college vote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:38:16am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yup, just a very close election. Moreover, Vice-President Mike Pence, in the position of Vice-President Richard Nixon, did the exact same thing: He certified his own loss.

And sealed his reputation as a pizza-basement pedophile…

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:38:18am
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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:38:52am

re: #96 Dopamine Fish

Eastman, and the Claremont Center’s attempted justification of the letter Eastman sent, is ignoring the core issue.

There was no acknowledged fraud, because there was no actual fraud. It was all a sham invented by Trump and right wing propagandists to undermine faith in the election. Trump never found any fraud. None of the lawsuits he pursued identified fraud. None of his suits were successful and every appellate court upheld the result showing Trump lost.

Every audit of states undertaken has shown Trump lost. Even the fraudit in Arizona showed Biden gained votes over the official tally. Georgia conducted multiple audit recounts, again showing Trump lost.

Eastman was supporting Trump’s insurrection and overthrow of the legitimately elected Biden.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:40:54am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How about a time travel movie that doesn’t involve killing Hitler or saving JFK? (Again, those are two ruts well worn.) Why leave “Jesus” to the fundamentalists? Take off on the wretched evangelical movie AD33. Have some time travelers go back and mess with Roman Judea and sidetrack the whole destruction-of-Jerusalem/birth-of-Christianity bit, and have the travelers come back to the present in a non-monotheistically-dominated society. Let the Greco-Roman polytheism run its course in a different direction.

Jesus isn’t crucified. He gets married, has a bunch of kids and lives out his normal life span as a devout Pharisee. That’s why everyone today is an Orthodox Jew.

*looks around*

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:42:30am

They got scammed when they paid for a worthless NFT. Giving a developer millions so he can either spend years building a game, or just retire with the money, was a bad idea as well.

Investors Spent Millions on ‘Evolved Apes’ NFTs. Then They Got Scammed. (Vice)

The developer behind the NFT project, ‘Evil Ape,’ suddenly disappeared along with its Twitter account, website, and $2.7 million.

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:44:56am

re: #115 The Pie Overlord!

Jesus isn’t crucified. He gets married, has a bunch of kids and lives out his normal life span as a devout Pharisee. That’s why everyone today is an Orthodox Jew.

*looks around*

Butterfly effect of Christianity not existing means that Islam’s foundation is a refinement of Judaism. Holy wars take on a different spin, and the Reformation is a Jewish schism dividing the Jewish world into orthodoxy and reform.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:52:23am

re: #116 Punish Domestic Terrorists

NFTs are just another way for rich people to move their money around.

And for morons to get scammed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:52:51am

re: #116 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They got scammed when they paid for a worthless NFT. Giving a developer millions so he can either spend years building a game, or just retire with the money, was a bad idea as well.

Investors Spent Millions on ‘Evolved Apes’ NFTs. Then They Got Scammed. (Vice)

“Take the Money and Run”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:54:38am

re: #117 lawhawk

Butterfly effect of Christianity not existing means that Islam’s foundation is a refinement of Judaism. Holy wars take on a different spin, and the Reformation is a Jewish schism dividing the Jewish world into orthodoxy and reform.

Plot twist: Today we’d all be speaking Hindi because India would launch holy wars against Asia Minor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:55:23am

re: #117 lawhawk

Butterfly effect of Christianity not existing means that Islam’s foundation is a refinement of Judaism. Holy wars take on a different spin, and the Reformation is a Jewish schism dividing the Jewish world into orthodoxy and reform.

A different Messiah arises just before the Romans drive the Jews from Israel. A much, much meaner one…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:55:32am

From yesterday:

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:59:16am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A different Messiah arises just before the Romans drive the Jews from Israel. A much, much meaner one…

The Bar Kochba rebellion succeeds.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 12, 2021 • 6:59:54am

re: #95 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:00:16am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From yesterday:

I was having this discussion with Mrs. Fish on Sunday, with respect to the nontroversy that is “gay Superman”: Why the fuck should someone else’s sexual preferences matter to me? What’s it hurting me if a man I know enjoys sex with other men? What harm is it going to do my kids when they learn that someone close to them is a lesbian? The entire concept of “my morality is the only right morality” just grates on me incessantly, because, even if it is true, that doesn’t give anyone the right to judge or to complain or to use (legislative or physical) force to make them change. I am constantly reminded of the story of the woman caught in adultery, where Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” After everyone had left, he was gentle with the woman: “Neither do I condemn you. Now go and leave your life of sin.” We can remind people of what is moral and just without being assholes about it; punishment is not ours to inflict. And again, that is true regardless of whether one’s moral view is objectively virtuous or not.

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jeffreyw  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:01:14am

I noticed in today’s obituaries that a former boss of mine has died of Covid. He retired 15 years ago, and was 80. I don’t know if he was vaxxed but it wouldn’t surprise me if he wasn’t. The family requests that funeral visitors wear a mask. He is the first person I knew personally to die of covid.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:01:47am

re: #125 Dopamine Fish

This is also an argument I would use regarding the traditional “criminals should be punished harshly” attitude that occurs in America a lot. I am all in favor of rehabilitation programs instead of punitive imprisonment, prison abuse, solitary confinement as punishment, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:03:53am

re: #127 Dopamine Fish

This is also an argument I would use regarding the traditional “criminals should be punished harshly” attitude that occurs in America a lot. I am all in favor of rehabilitation programs instead of punitive imprisonment, prison abuse, solitary confinement as punishment, etc.

There is an attitude that prisoners “deserve” to be abused by guards and fellow prisoners.

And face it, rehabilitation is expensive while outsourced brutality is cheap. At least over the short run.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:04:06am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:05:53am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:07:11am

Plattsmouth veterans plan honors for Civil War soldier whose remains lay unclaimed for 105 years (Omaha World-Herald, today)

Cynthia Vest Kinkead has rested alone beneath a white headstone in her family’s large burial plot near the east entrance to Plattsmouth’s Oak Hill Cemetery ever since her death, in 1910.

She’s about to get some company in that lonely patch of grass.

Later this month, her husband, Civil War veteran Benton Kinkead, will be laid to rest beside her — just a few weeks after the unlikely discovery of his cremated remains in a Seattle funeral home 105 years after his death.

It’s believed he will be the first Civil War soldier buried in Nebraska in almost 75 years.

Kinkead, an Army private, fought for the Union forces to save the divided country more than 150 years ago, and was wounded in battle. On Oct. 30, he’ll finally be buried with full military honors — the folded flag, the bugled taps, the rifle salute — honored by veterans whose grandparents weren’t yet born when he performed his patriotic duty.

(more)

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:07:24am

re: #106 Dopamine Fish

So Hawaii 1960 is more akin to Florida 2000 than to AZ/GA/PA/WI/whatever the other two were 2020, except that the recount was completed in a timely fashion and the proper certificate was signed and approved.

Also, the Republican vice-President*, presented with two valid (i.e. signed by the governor) certificates of the election, one for each party, accepted the one that gave Hawaii to the Democrats because it reflected reality.

*Richard Nixon

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:07:51am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A different Messiah arises just before the Romans drive the Jews from Israel. A much, much meaner one…

Brian?

Always look on the bright side of life….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:08:30am

re: #133 lawhawk

Brian?

Always look on the bright side of life….

Brian’s evil twin, Ryan.

The one from the Dark Side of life…

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:09:59am

re: #125 Dopamine Fish

I was having this discussion with Mrs. Fish on Sunday, with respect to the nontroversy that is “gay Superman”: Why the fuck should someone else’s sexual preferences matter to me? What’s it hurting me if a man I know enjoys sex with other men? What harm is it going to do my kids when they learn that someone close to them is a lesbian? The entire concept of “my morality is the only right morality” just grates on me incessantly, because, even if it is true, that doesn’t give anyone the right to judge or to complain or to use (legislative or physical) force to make them change. I am constantly reminded of the story of the woman caught in adultery, where Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” After everyone had left, he was gentle with the woman: “Neither do I condemn you. Now go and leave your life of sin.” We can remind people of what is moral and just without being assholes about it; punishment is not ours to inflict. And again, that is true regardless of whether one’s moral view is objectively virtuous or not.

Let me get this straight.

A fictional alien from another planet who has god-like powers and seduced/married a human woman, ends up being gay, and that’s the plot device that went too far?

Seriously?

Bigots gotta bigot.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:10:29am
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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:10:45am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kinda looks like Chad Vader down in the commissary? I know that guy…

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:13:29am

Media outlets keep framing mandates and vaccination rates in a way that makes it appear that people aren’t catching on with what we need to do to stop covid and return to a normal life.

All they keep doing is focusing on the distinct minority who refuse to vaccinate instead of the overwhelming majority who did.

In Paterson NJ, the 43 workers are largely who you’d expect them to be: firefighters, sanitation/public works, and police.

That’s despite firefighters and police seeing 100s of their own die from covid during the pandemic nationwide.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:15:07am

re: #135 lawhawk

Let me get this straight.

A fictional alien from another planet who has god-like powers and seduced/married a human woman, ends up being gay, and that’s the plot device that went too far?

Seriously?

Bigots gotta bigot.

It’s actually Superman’s son (with Lois Lane), filling in for Superman, who is gay.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:15:48am

re: #135 lawhawk

Let me get this straight.

A fictional alien from another planet who has god-like powers and seduced/married a human woman, ends up being gay, and that’s the plot device that went too far?

Seriously?

Bigots gotta bigot.

Oh, no, it’s even dumber than that. It’s Superman’s SON who is gay, and they’re flipping the fuck out about it. A completely new character, and yet they’re completely misrepresenting the facts for no other reason than, as you so eloquently stated, “bigots gotta bigot.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:16:44am

re: #136 Belafon

“They just didn’t have proper swim training!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:17:11am

re: #135 lawhawk

Let me get this straight.

A fictional alien from another planet who has god-like powers and seduced/married a human woman, ends up being gay, and that’s the plot device that went too far?

Seriously?

Bigots gotta bigot.

Superman has long been seen as an archetypal American symbol, like the American Cowboy. Painting him bisexual is seen as an affront to everything that Makes America Great. Remember the blowup over Brokeback Mountain?

People get upset when you meddle with the cultural symbols they cling to because they cannot seem to grasp abstract concepts like patriotism, masculinity or Christianity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:18:16am

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

“They just didn’t have proper swim training!”

“They had co-morbidities!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:19:23am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:19:54am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“They had co-morbidities!”

“See, you can drown even with a life jacket.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:20:51am

re: #145 Belafon

“See, you can drown even with a life jacket.”

“I don’t know what life jackets are made of. I’m not going to put one of those on my body.”

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lizardofid  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:21:08am

re: #145 Belafon

“See, you can drown even with a life jacket.”

“Break-thru drownings”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:22:06am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Superman has long been seen as an archetypal American symbol, like the American Cowboy. Painting him bisexual is seen as an affront to everything that Makes America Great. Remember the blowup over Brokeback Mountain?

People get upset when you meddle with the cultural symbols they cling to because they cannot seem to grasp abstract concepts like patriotism, masculinity or Christianity.

They probably don’t realize Superman was created by two Jewish guys, one of whom was CANADIAN.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:22:18am

“I already drowned once, I won’t drown again.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:22:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:22:46am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“I don’t know what life jackets are made of. I’m not going to put one of those on my body.”

“I refuse to swim in fear!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:26:15am

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s even funnier is Superman was created by two Jewish guys, one of whom was CANADIAN.

Michael Chabon did a book based on the history of comic books, The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay , about a refugee from the Prague Ghetto and another New York kid in the 1930’s who came up with “The Escapist”, a superhero whose power was to be able to escape from anything confining him.

It dives into the history of comics and mentions how Superman was the first “American” to start fighting Hitler and did a lot to influence public opinion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:26:42am

Here it comes… .

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:28:21am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I refuse to swim in fear!!!”

“I’m not a sheep!”

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:29:58am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Superman has long been seen as an archetypal American symbol, like the American Cowboy. Painting him bisexual is seen as an affront to everything that Makes America Great. Remember the blowup over Brokeback Mountain?

People get upset when you meddle with the cultural symbols they cling to because they cannot seem to grasp abstract concepts like patriotism, masculinity or Christianity.

Yes, Superman (Kal-El, Clark Kent) is a cultural symbol.

Again, the “Superman” who is coming out as bisexual is not Kal-El, but Jonathan Kent, the son of Kal-El and Lois Lane, who is temporarily taking over the role of Superman on Earth. Jonathan Kent’s Superman is not the iconic American cultural symbol.

The bigots getting all het up over this 1.) do not read comics (or at least have not kept up with character developments over the past decade of reboots and relaunches), and, consequently, 2.) don’t even know of Jonathan Kent’s existence.

These people also likely believe that the Robin who also came out as bisexual a couple of months back is Dick Grayson, and not Tim Drake (the Robin of the nineties). Hell, these people likely don’t know that the current Robin is young Damien Wayne, Batman’s bastard son with Talia al-Gul.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:32:01am

Southern Alaska will be warmer today than the Nebraska Panhandle. Alaska also isn’t getting tropical storm-force winds today.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:32:13am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:33:08am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:33:14am

As if TexASS isn’t fucking up enough…

Texas abruptly pulls suicide hotline webpage for teens offline after Abbott’s opponent criticizes it.

According to a report from the House Chronicle, a website the state of Texas maintained that directed at-risk teens to a suicide hotline was abruptly taken offline after a conservative critic — and Republican primary challenger of Gov. Greg Abbott — attacked it.

As the report notes, Abbott foe Don Huffines used the existence of the page run by the Department of Family and Protective Services to claim Texas’ child welfare agency was “promoting transgender sexual policies to Texas youth,” adding “These are not Texas values, these are not Republican Party values, but these are obviously Greg Abbott’s values.”

Noting that the webpage “linked to a suicide prevention hotline and other resources ‘dedicated to helping empower and celebrate” young LGBTQ people,’” the report states that it quickly disappeared.

houstonchronicle.com

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:35:12am

re: #159 JOE 🥓

As if TexASS isn’t fucking up enough…

Texas abruptly pulls suicide hotline webpage for teens offline after Abbott’s opponent criticizes it.

According to a report from the House Chronicle, a website the state of Texas maintained that directed at-risk teens to a suicide hotline was abruptly taken offline after a conservative critic — and Republican primary challenger of Gov. Greg Abbott — attacked it.

As the report notes, Abbott foe Don Huffines used the existence of the page run by the Department of Family and Protective Services to claim Texas’ child welfare agency was “promoting transgender sexual policies to Texas youth,” adding “These are not Texas values, these are not Republican Party values, but these are obviously Greg Abbott’s values.”

Noting that the webpage “linked to a suicide prevention hotline and other resources ‘dedicated to helping empower and celebrate” young LGBTQ people,’” the report states that it quickly disappeared.

houstonchronicle.com

Just in case you weren’t clear on the fact that Abbott’s running for president.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:36:07am

re: #159 JOE 🥓

“Wait? You mean we accidentally did something to help LGBT people?? That can NOT STAND!”

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:39:43am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

“Wait? You mean we accidentally did something to help LGBT people?? That can NOT STAND!”

/

Just remember America’s initial reaction to the (“gay”) AIDS epidemic…

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:41:06am
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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:42:11am

re: #159 JOE 🥓

As if TexASS isn’t fucking up enough…

Texas abruptly pulls suicide hotline webpage for teens offline after Abbott’s opponent criticizes it.

According to a report from the House Chronicle, a website the state of Texas maintained that directed at-risk teens to a suicide hotline was abruptly taken offline after a conservative critic — and Republican primary challenger of Gov. Greg Abbott — attacked it.

As the report notes, Abbott foe Don Huffines used the existence of the page run by the Department of Family and Protective Services to claim Texas’ child welfare agency was “promoting transgender sexual policies to Texas youth,” adding “These are not Texas values, these are not Republican Party values, but these are obviously Greg Abbott’s values.”

Noting that the webpage “linked to a suicide prevention hotline and other resources ‘dedicated to helping empower and celebrate” young LGBTQ people,’” the report states that it quickly disappeared.

houstonchronicle.com

But remember, LGBTQ folk are supposedly all powerful to be super-mega-cancel culture tyrants destroying careers all over the place.

I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to believe that Conservatives, especially in places like Texas, are trying to wage a genocide by proxy on Trans folk, in hopes of using it as a stepping stone to re-litigate gay rights and existence (which in turn will be used to re-litigate women’s rights, because that’s how it’s worked constantly in the past).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:43:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:44:29am

re: #164 Citizen K

I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to believe that Conservatives, especially in places like Texas, are trying to wage a genocide by proxy on Trans folk, in hopes of using it as a stepping stone to re-litigate gay rights and existence (which in turn will be used to re-litigate women’s rights, because that’s how it’s worked constantly in the past).

We must not take any of the gains made in person freedoms, women’s, minority or LGBT rights for granted. There are people working tirelessly and ruthlessly to turn back the clock by decades on all of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:45:59am

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

again, the asshole is claiming the right to define Superman as a manly, woman-loving American Icon (and again, has not even paid attention to the fictional plot involving fictional characters)

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:46:34am

Good morning sports fans…still can’t get over this game saving catch by Crawford last night. Two runs would have scored easily if he didn’t defy the law of gravity and grab this bullet.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:49:14am

So it’s going to make the unvaccinated dumber:

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JOE 🥓  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:49:15am

And the latest from Crackhead Mike!

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell spins new conspiracy about dead people using prison addresses to vote against Trump

The right-wing pillow magnate claims, without any evidence or sourcing, that tens of thousands of people voted using fictitious addresses and phone numbers to push Joe Biden over the top in Wisconsin, a key battleground state previously won by Trump in 2016, reported Newsweek.

“If you can pull up, I’m going to show you guys in Wisconsin, just an example, how 23,000 people voted using a prison address and used the same phone number,” Lindell said during an interview posted on his namesake website, “and a lot of them were people that turned out, as we dove into it, they’re not alive anymore, they just used their names obviously, and they don’t live in Wisconsin.”

Lindell did not explain how he uncovered this alleged fraud or how so many voters were able to use fraudulent identities without detection by election officials, and he did not identify which prison he was discussing.

newsweek.com

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:49:24am

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wendy doesn’t understand anything about this, and started her post by pairing Superman with some male relative of Lois Lane. That Tweet is fractally stupid.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:49:50am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:51:56am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:52:59am

re: #171 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Wendy doesn’t understand anything about this, and started her post by pairing Superman with some male relative of Lois Lane. That Tweet is fractally stupid.

Including the fact she said Superman was dating Louis Lane. Apparently that is either Lois’s brother, or Lois is trans.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:54:12am

Obama To Campaign For McAuliffe In Tight VA Race (Joe My God)

President Obama will campaign for Terry McAuliffe in Richmond on Saturday, October 23.

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:58:28am

re: #169 Belafon

So it’s going to make the unvaccinated dumber:

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I ask people who say they already had it if they’ve had the flu more than once in their lives.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 7:59:18am

re: #176 darthstar

I ask people who say they already had it if they’ve had the flu more than once in their lives.

“You’re sick with a cold? Again? But I thought you were immune to the cold, haven’t you already had like 20 in your life?”

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darthstar  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:00:56am

re: #173 Belafon

Gave that hashtag a gander - mostly Posobiac garbage.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:03:55am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Including the fact she said Superman was dating Louis Lane. Apparently that is either Lois’s brother, or Lois is trans.

I still remember when people flipped out when Lois became a black woman.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:04:37am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:07:18am

Having a Miscarriage in Texas in 2021: What it’s REALLY like. MY STORY.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:07:22am

re: #157 Belafon

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There already is a New York Times of the right. It is called the New York Times.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:08:04am

re: #182 The Pie Overlord!

There already is a New York Times of the right. It is called the New York Times.

No paper did more to put Trump in the White House than the liars at the Screw York Times!

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:13:44am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Not sure how that happened but at the end of his career he will want to re-tire.
*ducks and runs*

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:13:47am

Maybe pandering to fascists was not a great idea.

‘Cyber Ninjas’ CEO swearing off doing more audits after death threats from Trump fans (Raw Story)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:16:28am

re: #185 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Maybe pandering to fascists was not a great idea.

‘Cyber Ninjas’ CEO swearing off doing more audits after death threats from Trump fans (Raw Story)

They did not pander with enough self-abasing dedication to duty.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:18:59am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They did not pander with enough self-abasing dedication to duty.

The result was SUPPOSED to be, “Yeah, Trump won, there was widespread fraud, we need to invalidate the 2020 election in all the close states and they need to implement strict voting restrictions to prevent this tragedy from occurring again.” I don’t know what inspired them not to go through with that cunning plan, whether someone realized that lying on an official report to a US government entity was not a well thought-out idea or what, but their refusal to commit fully to the Big Lie painted a great big target on their backs.

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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:20:28am

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Mosquitos? Heh, that’s why I have Hummingbird feeders and a Bat nesting box.

My stay at my mother’s has been marred by the fact that I’ve gotten bit up by mosquitoes. I’m not sure where the water source is, but it could be anywhere around here, the way the neighbors are into lush lawns in the desert.

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Egregious Philbin  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:22:02am

re: #185 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Wait, the deporables are realizing that deplorables are deplorable?

Deplorable!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:22:28am

re: #187 Dopamine Fish

The result was SUPPOSED to be, “Yeah, Trump won, there was widespread fraud, we need to invalidate the 2020 election in all the close states and they need to implement strict voting restrictions to prevent this tragedy from occurring again.” .

But they served the GOP purpose of keeping “stolen election” in the news cycles for months and months until Texas, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin can get their own forensic audits fired up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:23:03am

re: #188 mmmirele

My stay at my mother’s has been marred by the fact that I’ve gotten bit up by mosquitoes. I’m not sure where the water source is, but it could be anywhere around here, the way the neighbors are into lush lawns in the desert.

all you need is a shallow spot for water to collect, old tires or buckets, etc…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:23:43am

re: #189 Egregious Philbin

Wait, the deporables are realizing that deplorables are deplorable?

Deplorable!

They are being deplored for not being deplorable enough. Deplorability is supposed to be a bottomless pit.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:24:14am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But they served the GOP purpose of keeping “stolen election” in the news cycles for months and months until Texas, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin can get their own forensic audits fired up.

Yes, but for the zombie horde that is the rank Republicans, that’s not good enough. The AZ Senate GOP can rest easy, knowing they’ve done their part for the overall cause, but the people expecting Trump to be swept into office on the wings of My Pillow Man by Thanksgiving are the ones who are issuing death threats.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:26:34am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But they served the GOP purpose of keeping “stolen election” in the news cycles for months and months until Texas, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin can get their own forensic audits fired up.

And Nebraska. It’s fishy that Joe Biden won NE-2 and got one electoral vote, even though NE-2 is one of the few actual swing districts in the nation.

So they want us out here in mail-vote only land to send in copies of things like Social Security Cards and drivers’ licenses to cast our votes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:27:12am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:28:20am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are being deplored for not being deplorable enough. Deplorability is supposed to be a bottomless pit.

For realizing they had bit off more than they could chew, when they were told they would need to show their work.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:31:12am

Incoming thunder.

radar.weather.gov

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:32:04am

Hoot just got asked to interview for a parking dispatcher position at the University of Memphis. Suggested Monday morning. Here’s hoping…

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:32:45am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whoever is deemed least extreme must be a subversive.

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lizardofid  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:36:01am

Later all, have a great day!

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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:37:56am

re: #71 steve_davis

I can’t remember who, but I vaguely recall a sf story where a space crew is warned not to have sex with the natives, one of them does, and discovers he will be the father to several thousand offspring.

Hahahaha. In Chanur’s Legacy by C.J. Cherryh, the female crew takes on a male abandoned a long way from home space as a crewman (having male crew is nearly unheard of). One of his first acts is to ram a forklift into a truck driven by one of the methane breathing species while loading cargo, which causes said methane breather to basically reproduce because of the stress. This causes issues, and he is daddy to thousands, but it’s the least of the issues for the crew of the Legacy.

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:42:01am

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

Borg.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:42:08am

re: #199 jaunte

Whoever is deemed least extreme must be a subversive.

Like the anecdote about the Stalin speech where nobody wanted to be the first one to stop applauding…

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:44:06am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Including the fact she said Superman was dating Louis Lane. Apparently that is either Lois’s brother, or Lois is trans.

I see “Louis Lane” a lot in YouTube comments on the Casually Comics channel. Usually, I suspect some kind of autocorrect error.

Amusingly enough, the suheadline on a Fox article on this story also made the amusing “Louis Lane” error, though Lois’s name was spelled correctly in the story itself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:44:59am

re: #204 A Three Hour Tour

I see “Louis Lane” a lot in YouTube comments on the Casually Comics channel. Usually, I suspect some kind of autocorrect error.

Amusingly enough, the suheadline on a Fox article on this story also made the amusing “Louis Lane” error, though Lois’s name was spelled correctly in the story itself.

Meet me in St Lois

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:46:33am

re: #179 JOE 🥓

I still remember when people flipped out when Lois became a black woman.

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I’m surprised that they didn’t flip out over the story title referencing two softcore late sixties Swedish arthouse flix.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:47:46am
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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:48:11am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Every “What if the South had won?” scenario I have seen assumes that the Confederacy would have remained intact. Seems like they would most likely have fallen apart into individual states or factions at some point and even turned on each other.

Imagine if one or the other states had later on tried (in violation of the Confederate Constitution) to abolish slavery?

Agree with you here. The “solid South” would have broken up into factions. I really do like Harry Turtledove’s The Guns of the South. He didn’t go overboard with the time travel idea, he had a terminus point for the time travelers and the end of the novel. It was a really interesting thought exercise (and hell, Robert E. Lee holding a modern weapon on the cover was a brilliant selling point). I was less thrilled with his alternate history series, however.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:48:48am

Outstanding moral example from a Baptist minister in Michigan.

(WXYZ) — A Ferndale pastor is in jail after police say he tried to kill two Arenac County sheriff’s deputies with his car.

The terrifying ordeal happened Wednesday just off of I-75 near the Alger exit.

The pastor’s name is David Jones, and according to the Hilton Oaks Baptist Church Facebook page, he gave sermons regularly at the church.

Court documents show Jones had a long history of drinking and driving, and his latest arrest was in August in Oakland County.

“If you turn your vehicle around and intentionally collide with a police vehicle, you are going to be charged with attempted murder on police,” Arena County Undersheriff Don McIntyre said.

(more)

Ferndale pastor with 8 DUI arrests accused of trying to kill deputies with car (more, with video, 1:59)

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:49:45am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We must not take any of the gains made in person freedoms, women’s, minority or LGBT rights for granted. There are people working tirelessly and ruthlessly to turn back the clock by decades on all of them.

When I continuously beat that drum online on social media, I got repeatedly called a neoliberal corporate shill by the followers of the blessed Saint Bernie.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:50:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:52:21am

re: #210 A Three Hour Tour

When I continuously beat that drum online on social media, I got repeatedly called a neoliberal corporate shill by the followers of the blessed Saint Bernie.

And now we have the Texas abortion bill and another half-dozen states ready to follow suit on it…

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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:53:34am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:56:11am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:56:46am

re: #214 Belafon

So in other words, they’re killing the $3.5T bill. Ugh. Why can’t we have nice things.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:57:14am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:59:37am

re: #215 Dopamine Fish

So in other words, they’re killing the $3.5T bill. Ugh. Why can’t we have nice things.

Because of Manchin and the other conservative Democrats, they choices were all of the things but only for five years, or fewer for ten years.

The fight to get voting legislation passed needs to happen soon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 8:59:58am

re: #213 mmmirele

“Inerrancy as a tool of the patriarchy”

Inerrancy is a necessary component for any top-down hierarchy, from the military to a religious organization or a college football program. When all authority comes from above, then all responsibility must likewise flow upstream.

Which means that any errors or scandals downstream need to hushed up and dealt with quietly and internally so as not to reflect badly on the Institution.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:00:39am

re: #213 mmmirele

I looked up Roaring Lambs and Robert Briner, ran across this Amazon review of his book:

“…Another problematic aspect of this book was Briner’s view of Christianity. Namely, that it can do no wrong. He describes Dallas as a Christian “Mecca” and then goes into detail about the crime, divorce rate, and other social problems. He is perplexed by the disconnect between the “two cities,” believing the moral problems to be completely contained within the pagan city. In another section, he is mystified at the lack of Christian screenwriters. One paragraph earlier he described a Christian directors office as overflowing with bad scripts. His abecedarian understanding of the Art seems to further obstruct his inability to conceptualize Christian art as often kitsch.

I wholeheartedly disagreed with Briner’s approach to social proselytizing through penetrative conquest. He seems content to flood the market with writers, musicians, actors, producers, etc., no matter their skill level, as long as they are Evangelical Christians. Obviously, history has taught him no lessons as to the ramifications of this style of religious management. “

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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:02:05am

Thread about Nazi and gang imagery in Arizona prison training documents by Jimmy Jenkins of KJZZ the Arizona Republic, who is the GOAT of reporting on the shitshow that is state incarceration.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:07:20am

LOL Fortunately we have no traffic lights here.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:10:06am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not a dilemma at all.
ranker.com

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Jay C  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:11:50am

re: #207 Belafon

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OK: One question: where do you have to be to get attacked by a shark in New Mexico? (Even just one?)

Kentucky and Illinois I can (maybe) understand - the sharks obviously just swim up the Mississippi/Ohio, but NM?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:13:37am

I just received my class-action settlement in the suit against Plains milk producer price-fixing in grocery stores.

Now I just need to figure out how to spend my riches of $7.58.

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:13:42am

re: #223 Jay C

OK: One question: where do you have to be to get attacked by a shark in New Mexico? (Even just one?)

Kentucky and Illinois I can (maybe) understand - the sharks obviously just swim up the Mississippi/Ohio, but NM?

Are there aquariums which keep sharks in NM? 🤔

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:13:48am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Every “What if the South had won?” scenario I have seen assumes that the Confederacy would have remained intact. Seems like they would most likely have fallen apart into individual states or factions at some point and even turned on each other.

Imagine if one or the other states had later on tried (in violation of the Confederate Constitution) to abolish slavery?

Or to succeed (in violation of the Confederate Constitution).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:14:45am

re: #223 Jay C

OK: One question: where do you have to be to get attacked by a shark in New Mexico? (Even just one?)

Kentucky and Illinois I can (maybe) understand - the sharks obviously just swim up the Mississippi/Ohio, but NM?

Jump in the Albuquerque Aquarium.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:17:18am

re: #224 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I just received my class-action settlement in the suit against Plains milk producer price-fixing in grocery stores.

Now I just need to figure out how to spend my riches of $7.58.

Put it in a cow fund so you can be free of the treachery of Big Milk.
/

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Jay C  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:18:47am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Jump in the Albuquerque Aquarium.

OK then: that must have been where the sole recorded Provoked Shark Attack in NM happened.

Still a pretty good record over 120 years…..

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:19:00am

re: #225 Teukka

Are there aquariums which keep sharks in NM? 🤔

Somebody jumped the shark at the aquarium?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:19:23am

re: #222 jaunte

Not a dilemma at all.
ranker.com

Jesuses or Jesi?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:19:34am

Call to ban neo-fascist groups after violent protests in Rome (Politico EU)

Forza Nuova led anti-vaccine protests that turned violent.

ROME — The Italian government is under pressure to ban neo-fascist movements that took part in violent anti-vaccination protests at the weekend.

On Saturday, demonstrators trashed a union building and attacked a hospital emergency room as part of a day of violence that has been likened to the Capitol Hill riot in Washington in January. The protest left 38 police officers injured, with 12 protesters arrested including the leaders of a neo-fascist group called Forza Nuova (New Power).

The group, which does not allow vaccinated people to join, has sought to make political capital from the pandemic, infiltrating violent anti-vaccine and anti-mask protests since the early days of lockdown.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:21:02am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Call to ban neo-fascist groups after violent protests in Rome (Politico EU)

Forza Nuova led anti-vaccine protests that turned violent.

In Italy, they are extremist groups. In America, they have their own political party…

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Egregious Philbin  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:22:54am

re: #220 mmmirele

KJZZ is an awesome station, my nephew works for them, he was on air, but now does some special projects and podcasts. Also friends with their engineer, good guy.

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ipsos  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:24:11am

re: #234 Egregious Philbin

Ut/nCvw6iBp+sFFY0jy+KbYSNa5Zaf1JcEkS8baT28qMgfSUQYcgTWRZ1QlclWZ085YqX9Xu7STHMXQ6XXXvrA==

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:24:15am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A different Messiah arises just before the Romans drive the Jews from Israel. A much, much meaner one…

Suspect the meaner Messiah would have attracted the attention of the Romans much earlier and the crucifixion would have taken place before the age of ~33.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:24:30am
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Egregious Philbin  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:25:21am

re: #235 ipsos

re: #235 ipsos

HuQzV1zOcyjdiwIfbdwqj4u5y3MKiix5djsPiPYjNRYETO/ehFevDlfAZSHNyoytrolnza0k9X3eUiQwWqD1pnWC+caRdJET

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:25:40am
240
Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:26:31am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:26:41am

re: #237 jaunte

I miss the days when “deeply polarized” meant “evenly split” instead of this nonsense where you pretend the 80% of Americans who support vaccinations is equal to the 20% who don’t.

Like how scientists are “deeply polarized” on Climate Change with 97% supporting and 3% denying it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:29:47am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

keep telling yourself that, Jesse

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:30:18am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Italy, they are extremist groups. In America, they have their own political party…

One wag described fascism of the Twenties and Thirties as a chickenpox infection, and subsequent outbreaks as shingles.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:31:18am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:32:47am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

keep telling yourself that, Jesse

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Meanwhile, Kaepernick is still treated as the biggest super devil traitor in the history of ever, because he kneeled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:34:12am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:34:13am

re: #236 BeenHereAwhile

Suspect the meaner Messiah would have attracted the attention of the Romans much earlier and the crucifixion would have taken place before the age of ~33.

Well, if Jesus is God and God is omnipotent, he could also strike the emperor dead and sweep the Roman armies away.

Then the restored Israel rules Europe, starts its own version of a dark age, &c.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:36:00am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dolphins don’t have abortions, so there!!!

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:37:00am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks for the heads up.

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:38:16am

re: #180 The Pie Overlord!

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The unfortunate thing is, the anti-CRT crowd are still winning in a landslide so far. They’re steamrolling over school boards and chasing out good and dedicated teachers and school workers while overwhelmingly instituting the full whitewashed version of history in vast, vast swaths across the country. They’ve no longer become the outrage du jour but they’re still basically winning the battle for the soul of our schools. And that’s wholly fucking depressing.

It doesn’t matter that their bullshit is bunk, because it was never about what CRT actually is or isn’t. It’s just finding an excuse to fully and institutionally sweep the country’s racism under the rug at the root and make sure future generations never hear of it. All so they can perpetuate it under the guise of ‘common sense’.

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:38:26am

re: #92 BlueSpotinAL

Annual physical today, but not feeling my usual milk and cereal ( which I really do like ). Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me.

[Embedded content]

Now that’s a nice plate. I don’t know whether I could handle a whole set of those, but I could handle one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:40:59am

re: #250 Citizen K

The unfortunate thing is, the anti-CRT crowd are still winning in a landslide so far. They’re steamrolling over school boards and chasing out good and dedicated teachers and school workers while overwhelmingly instituting the full whitewashed version of history in vast, vast swaths across the country.

And we cannot take the advances we have made in teaching our common history for granted.

I am expecting that there will soon be initiatives to ban Critical Reich Theory: we should not fixate on concentration camps and occupying neighboring countries, focus instead on all those advances in space technology and pediatric medicine!!!

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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:43:06am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:45:15am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dolphins don’t have abortions, so there!!!

But they do have gay sex.

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A Cranky One  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:45:16am

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:45:55am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

This tweet expresses my sentiment, which I think is widely held in Boston:

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A Cranky One  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:45:56am
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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:46:14am

re: #254 Belafon

But they do have gay sex.

Three dolphin club.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:47:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:52:31am

Couldn’t the Nets just trade Irving away so he’d be someone else’s problem?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:53:39am

re: #254 Belafon

But they do have gay sex.

And they are notorious rapists. They also kill juveniles so nursing dolphins are available for sex again.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:56:56am

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, if Jesus is God and God is omnipotent, he could also strike the emperor dead and sweep the Roman armies away.

Then the restored Israel rules Europe, starts its own version of a dark age, &c.

Omnipotent doesn’t necessarily imply meddlesome. Maybe God just don’t wanna.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:57:32am

re: #262 sagehen

Omnipotent doesn’t necessary imply meddlesome. Maybe God just don’t wanna.

Only when he wants to make an example of gay sex…

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:57:32am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

Couldn’t the Nets just trade Irving away so he’d be someone else’s problem?

If he can’t fully participate in team activities due to his unvaccinated status, who would want him?

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:57:43am

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

Couldn’t the Nets just trade Irving away so he’d be someone else’s problem?

That has happened. When Tim Thomas went wingnut in Boston, and refused to meet President Obama after they won the Cup, the Bruins did indeed shuffle him off. The feeling was EXTREMELY mutual, at least amongst the fan base.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:57:55am

Reuters:

U.S. Supreme Court rejects case involving Trump-aligned lawyer Eastman

WASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to hear a California Republican club’s challenge to a private organization’s cancellation of a 2017 event at a city-owned property in Pasadena that was to have featured a conservative lawyer later aligned with former President Donald Trump.

The justices turned away the Pasadena Republican Club’s appeal of a lower court ruling that found that the cancellation of attorney John Eastman’s planned appearance did not violate the U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment, which bars government discrimination on free speech or religious grounds.

(more)

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:59:21am
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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:00:00am

Jeesh.

I’ve been randomly selected to receive txt msgs, to “share a scripture about Jesus Christ” by missionaries Sister Miller and Sister Hyatt of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Not responding or blocking, just want to see how long this goes on.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:00:03am
270
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:00:37am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Freedom of Speech =/= Freedom of Access to Platform/Venue

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:01:47am

re: #269 DodgerFan1988

Massive self-importance.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:02:05am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fereedom of Speech =/= Freedom of Access to Platform/Venue

You’ll never convince them of that. They will insist to their dying day that freedom of speech means that they are guaranteed the right to a captive audience.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:02:28am

re: #269 DodgerFan1988

“This is not okay!”

That much I can agree with.

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Jay C  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:02:28am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

keep telling yourself that, Jesse

[Embedded content]

SRSLY: Kyrie Irving is losing his playing position (though maybe not his salary [???]) over (?) refusal to get vaccinated - and this is some sort of “victory”??

275
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:05:08am

re: #272 Dopamine Fish

You’ll never convince them of that. They will insist to their dying day that freedom of speech means that they are guaranteed the right to a captive audience.

And to impose their will on other people.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:05:16am

re: #249 Rightwingconspirator

“I promise you The System is scared.”

What a dope.

277
Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:05:55am

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

And to impose their will on other people.

But only their will. When the majority want to do something they don’t want to do, then it’s illegal and immoral and unconstitutional and wharrgarbl mah freedumbs.

278
JOE 🥓  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:06:19am

Irving won’t play? Then don’t pay his sorry ass!

279
Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:07:12am

re: #278 JOE 🥓

Irving won’t play? Then don’t pay his sorry ass!

I would assume the CBA dictates whether or not he gets paid in this situation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:07:43am

re: #278 JOE 🥓

Irving won’t play? Then don’t pay his sorry ass!

Just keep paying him and making him sit on the bench. Where everybody can see his recalcitrant, egotistical ass.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:07:51am

re: #268 BeenHereAwhile

Jeesh.

I’ve been randomly selected to receive txt msgs, to “share a scripture about Jesus Christ” by missionaries Sister Miller and Sister Hyatt of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Not responding or blocking, just want to see how long this goes on.

Today is Freethought Day, the annual encouragement of atheists to come out of the closet. Churches on this day do everything they can to go after out atheists with Bible verses and passive-aggressive prayer.

October 12 is the day picked because it marks the effective end of the Salem Witch Trials.

This is your chance to get off the Mormon’s list.

en.wikipedia.org

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:08:42am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just keep paying him and making him sit on the bench. Where everybody can see his recalcitrant, egotistical ass.

From ESPN:

Marks also said the only salary Irving will forfeit will be for home games due to New York City’s vaccine mandate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:10:52am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I guess I am lucky to live in country full of de facto atheists, many of whom still attend church - but primarily out of a sense of cultural and social tradition and community - and would not think of shaming or excluding anyone who does not believe in God.

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Jay C  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:12:24am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Reuters:

U.S. Supreme Court rejects case involving Trump-aligned lawyer Eastman

(more)

As well they should have: IANAL, but to me this case seems on thin grounds even for a RWNJ/Republican (they were claiming that because the private org that cancelled Eastman’s appearance was renting their space from the City of Pasadena, that this was somehow a “government” restriction of speech) - I’m surprised this even got as far as SCOTUS in the first place.

ADD: never mind: I see the SC didn’t “hear” the appeal, just (rightly, IMO) bounced it.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:13:03am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just keep paying him and making him sit on the bench. Where everybody can see his recalcitrant, egotistical ass.

If he’s unvaccinated, there’s states where he’s not allowed in the building.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:13:14am

re: #277 Dopamine Fish

But only their will. When the majority want to do something they don’t want to do, then it’s illegal and immoral and unconstitutional and wharrgarbl mah freedumbs.

“Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech.”

That should be very clear. Not prior restraint or post-facto punishment, but no guarantee of access to any medium.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:13:24am

re: #284 Jay C

As well they should have: IANAL, but to me this case seems on thin grounds even for a RWNJ/Republican (they were claiming that because the private org that cancelled Eastman’s appearance was renting their space from the City of Pasadena, that this was somehow a “government” restriction of speech) - I’m surprised this even got as far as SCOTUS in the first place.

What that means is that the judges denied it all the way up, and the Republicans just kept appealing it until it reached SCOTUS. That does not necessarily mean anything about the merits of their arguments, but only that they were persistent in their appeals until finally SCOTUS told them to fuck off.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:23:56am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today is Freethought Day, the annual encouragement of atheists to come out of the closet. Churches on this day do everything they can to go after out atheists with Bible verses and passive-aggressive prayer.

October 12 is the day picked because it marks the effective end of the Salem Witch Trials.

This is your chance to get off the Mormon’s list.

en.wikipedia.org

I’ve been dealing with these door to door, and now txting ~well meaning~ “missionaries of the one true (pick your church) faith” for decades. They seem to be less prevalent now than in the past.

Always curious to see how long this goes on with no response.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:25:00am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

The structure no longer works. To change that we need a period of overwhelming Dem hegemony, and the only way that happens is after a truly catastrophic fuck-up. Like, 1929-level fuckup.

It also happened in 2006 and 2008. So not 1929-level disaster.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:42:10am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Only when he wants to make an example of gay sex…

Then Alabama or Florida get hit by hurricanes.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2021 • 10:44:54am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2021 • 11:05:08am

re: #111 Dopamine Fish

And there’s nothing wrong with alleging widespread voter fraud, IF AND ONLY IF the recounts then show that there was, actually, widespread voter fraud. The problem is that the Republicans demanded as many recounts as they could legally obtain (and even some that were of dubious legality, and that’s not even counting the post-election fraudits), and the results were so extremely similar as to be statistically identical. They simply refused to accept those results, and demanded that the state legislatures “do something” (i.e. the popular but widely discredited theory that the state legislatures could just choose to revoke the electors and appoint their own slate). And that appears to be what they were hoping for on 1/6, when they tried to derail the electoral college vote.

Unfortunately, if the legislature passes the right legislation, they can actually do this in 2024. The Constitution doesn’t require that the legislators select electors based on a popular vote. There are no requirements on how they make this choice; the only limitation is that they cannot choose a President and VP who are both from their state.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2021 • 11:09:49am

re: #114 lawhawk

Eastman, and the Claremont Center’s attempted justification of the letter Eastman sent, is ignoring the core issue.

There was no acknowledged fraud, because there was no actual fraud. It was all a sham invented by Trump and right wing propagandists to undermine faith in the election. Trump never found any fraud. None of the lawsuits he pursued identified fraud. None of his suits were successful and every appellate court upheld the result showing Trump lost.

Every audit of states undertaken has shown Trump lost. Even the fraudit in Arizona showed Biden gained votes over the official tally. Georgia conducted multiple audit recounts, again showing Trump lost.

Eastman was supporting Trump’s insurrection and overthrow of the legitimately elected Biden.

My personal opinion is not that Eastman was just ignoring this: he was part of a plot hatched well before the election to guarantee that Trump be re-elected — that he himself, along with other Federalist Society members, were the original insurrectionists — and that they had designed all this early in 2020.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2021 • 11:14:56am

re: #160 Belafon

Just in case you weren’t clear on the fact that Abbott’s running for president.

Isn’t he just running for re-election as governor for now and he’s worried that he could lose in the primary to this more radical, less ethical (is that even possible?) candidate?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2021 • 11:19:43am

re: #289 Hecuba’s daughter

It also happened in 2006 and 2008. So not 1929-level disaster.

Not what I’m talking about. The Constitution would need to be amended to balance the power of the rural states and to assure several shades of civil rights guarantees. That will not happen until there is a seismic upset. Economic collapse or catastrophic climate changes might do it.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2021 • 9:17:30pm

re: #158 Dave In Austin

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Dairy farms in Bosque County. Stems that bruise blue.

“No, sir, officer, I’m just collecting biological samples for my Mycology class at UT.”

This is exactly what we did at Tulane. Of course it still works.

If you can get BioHazard bags, even better.


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