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mmmirele  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:15:25am

Tired of Megan McCain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:15:29am

while we are all froggy here…

françoise hardy- Fleur de Lune

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:16:49am

re: #1 mmmirele

They understand only one form of “patriotism”, some sort of undying loyalty to an ideal that does not reflect any reality, only a rose-tinted memory of some legendary “Good Old Days”.

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electrotek  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:17:27am

Reposting from downstairs:

Thread on one of the most shameful chapters of 20th century French history, which the French refuse to acknowledge on their unjust colonialism of Algeria:

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:20:42am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:24:20am

re: #5 The Pie Overlord!

That’s pretty spot on. I can’t really think of a Republican who doesn’t fit at least one of those 4 categories.

Hell, Matt Gaetz is practically a grand slam as he fits all of them.

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jeffreyw  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:25:52am

hambeans & cornbread

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:33:43am

re: #7 jeffreyw

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hambeans & cornbread

My lunch today was a pulled pork and BBQ sandwich, and then a bowl of pho with some smoked brisket added. Dinner tonight is ribeyes and a baguette with homemade pesto.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:40:59am

re: #7 jeffreyw

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hambeans & cornbread

Now you’ve got me thinking about a pot of ham and 15 bean soup. :-)

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:44:46am

For lunch today I had sliced beefsteak tomato (from the backyard garden) and avocado sandwich on toasted homemade sourdough.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:46:19am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:52:36am

re: #7 jeffreyw

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hambeans & cornbread

Looks good. My first foray into air fryer turned out pretty well, the shrimp tasted good and passed the wife test. This evening I am going to do toasted cheese sandwiches in it. Will have them with tomato soup.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:53:23am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:58:34am

re: #7 jeffreyw

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hambeans & cornbread

Memories of Mom doctoring up Jiffy Corn Bread mix to make blueberry, apple or honey muffins.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:59:06am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Computers are designed and built to perform repetitive tasks at an extremely high speed. They are extremely efficient at this. However, when you break it down, the complex interactions of humans are not repetitive, they are constantly changing. Trying to manage hate speech with an algorithm is nothing more than a cheap cop-out to avoid paying the army of people they’d need to do the job properly. I’m sure that eventually, it’ll be possible to build AIs that are efficient at evolving and adapting to changes in patterns, but it’ll be a very long time before then, and even longer before they approach the ability of humans to do the job, if ever.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 10:59:38am
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darthstar  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:07:08am

re: #1 mmmirele

Tired of Megan McCain.

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Krypton is a suburb of Des Moines don’t you know…

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darthstar  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:07:46am

And given that Meghan McCain is top of the thread I think this is an appropriate time to share this picture of a seal.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:08:04am

re: #16 jaunte

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I thought that said 4.3M Quit “In Disgust”

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:15:16am

LOL

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mmmirele  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:19:37am

re: #19 The Pie Overlord!

I thought that said 4.3M Quit “In Disgust”

It should have. I mean, I feel for the people who are working, which is why I still wear a damn mask when I have to go out shopping or whatever. I mean, far too many people here think a mask is optional, and IT’S NOT. Dammit.

I’m just waiting for those numbers to go up when white collar employers order their work at home employees to come back into the office. Or the number of employees who have pre-existing conditions (like me) who submit requests for waivers because we have chronic diseases that make it more likely we’ll get sick if exposed to the idiots who refuse to get vaccinated. ** My employer is so damn stupid, the suits think they can just say “Everyone, and we mean EVERYONE, has to come back to the office, no matter if you were hired as work from home, or you’ve been working from home for a decade” and people are just going to bow down. Oh hell no. The world has changed. We’re not in the mood to take risks with our *lives* to work. And we’re seeing it right now with poorly paid workers—they’re not willing to do that either.

** We’ve got a guy who is out on leave right now because he refused to get vaxxed but did vitamins and stuff and got COVID. That’s what I’m talking about.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:21:33am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:22:05am

re: #4 electrotek

Reposting from downstairs:

Thread on one of the most shameful chapters of 20th century French history, which the French refuse to acknowledge on their unjust colonialism of Algeria:

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One of the really infuriating things about this is that Papon essentially got away with it, and kept getting away with shit until he finally died of old age (97) in 2007. I addressed this back in August:

Maurice Papon was head of the Paris police at the time of the 1961 massacre, and during a 1962 incident in which 9 people were killed. He was one of those very shady characters who kept reappearing, like bad pennies, in the French establishment for decades after World War II.
During the war, he had been police prefect in Bourdeaux and was responsible for the roundup and deportation of 1620 Jews, almost none of whom survived. He avoided being charged for that until 1998, when he was 88 years old. He served two years in prison and was paroled for “old age” (90). He finally kicked off in 2007 at age 97.
Before that, he had been forced out of the police after the very suspicious disappearance of Moroccan exile Mehdi ben Barka in 1965. Papon was believed to have cooperated with Moroccan intelligence officials to permit the hit on French soil.
With Nazi collaboration, a couple of massacres, and a gangland style hit on his record, one might be forgiven for thinking that would be the end of him, at least as a responsible official. Not so. DeGaulle appointed him head of Sud Aviation, which had the French end of the Concorde development, even though he had no experience with aviation. He was eventually elected to the National Assembly. He later served as Budget Minister for President Valéry Giscard d’Estaing in the 1980s. Justice finally caught up with him, sort of, thanks to an article in Le Canard Enchaîné, and diligent work by Nazi hunter Serge Klarsfeld.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:27:23am

re: #18 darthstar

And given that Meghan McCain is top of the thread I think this is an appropriate time to share this picture of a seal.

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Instagram

Southern elephant seals can dive down over a mile deep and hold their breath for over an hour to hunt their deep-sea prey. They have ultra sensitive eyes which allow them to capture the faintest light in the inky black depths, so this quote seems fitting: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” - Nietzsche

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:28:15am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:34:08am

By age 30 I was:

1. Married for 9 years
2. Owned a house
3. Weighed 108 lbs.
4. Had 5 children
5. Made gefilte fish from scratch

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steve_davis  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:34:20am

Selling the Yamaha CP88 to compensate for the fairly extravagant Ultra Telecaster in Texas Tea and then the tonemaster twin reverb. I will say that setting the attenuator at 1 watt and then just noodling on the tele with reverb and a little tremolo coming through is just a beautiful way to spend a sunday morning. I’d forgotten the cp88 weighs 50 pounds. Even in a soft case, it’s a royal mother to move around.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:36:04am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:43:18am

re: #26 The Pie Overlord!

By age 30 I was:

1. Married for 9 years
2. Owned a house
3. Weighed 108 lbs.
4. Had 5 children
5. Made gefilte fish from scratch

By age thirty I was:

1: Married to my first wife for five years
2: The most expensive thing I owned was a car
3: Weighed the same as I do now (115#)
4: Fathered one child (none since)
5: Did home canning and made kielbasa from scratch.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:43:25am

Do you enjoy broke brain? This thread… will induce serious broke brain.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:47:27am

re: #30 teleskiguy

“to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace “

Dennis Hastert.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:47:53am

re: #30 teleskiguy

Do you enjoy broke brain? This thread… will induce serious broke brain.

The guy needs to quit mainlining libertarianism.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:48:06am

“to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace”

Jim Jordan

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:49:04am

re: #33 jaunte

“to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace”

Incels

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:49:08am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:50:11am

re: #30 teleskiguy

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:50:26am

“to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace”

Jim Watkins

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jeffreyw  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:51:48am

re: #12 Eventual Carrion

Looks good. My first foray into air fryer turned out pretty well, the shrimp tasted good and passed the wife test. This evening I am going to do toasted cheese sandwiches in it. Will have them with tomato soup.

Classic Combo! Interested in how the cheese sammiches will come out.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:52:27am
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jeffreyw  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:53:55am

re: #14 JOE 🥓

Memories of Mom doctoring up Jiffy Corn Bread mix to make blueberry, apple or honey muffins.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:54:42am

re: #30 teleskiguy

Pretty sure this guy collects his own farts in jars.

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JC1  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:54:58am

re: #15 Dopamine Fish

Computers are designed and built to perform repetitive tasks at an extremely high speed. They are extremely efficient at this. However, when you break it down, the complex interactions of humans are not repetitive, they are constantly changing. Trying to manage hate speech with an algorithm is nothing more than a cheap cop-out to avoid paying the army of people they’d need to do the job properly. I’m sure that eventually, it’ll be possible to build AIs that are efficient at evolving and adapting to changes in patterns, but it’ll be a very long time before then, and even longer before they approach the ability of humans to do the job, if ever.

I think that AI is already there for 95%+ of the issues. If anything, the problem would be with false positives, which could then be checked by humans once someone flags it. A standard training set for AI sentiment detection is looking at the text of IMDb user movie reviews and determining whether the review was positive or negative. Detecting whether or not a post is racist or extremist or X is just a matter of putting together the appropriate training set.
My guess is that FB is weary of actually getting rid of racist and extremist content because it would cost them too much money. I would be shocked if they actually didn’t cripple their AI setup to not be too good at it.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:55:34am

re: #41 teleskiguy

The new frontier in NFTs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 11:57:48am

re: #42 JC1

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My guess is that FB is weary of actually getting rid of racist and extremist content because it would cost them too much money. I would be shocked if they actually didn’t cripple their AI setup to not be too good at it.

I don’t think it’s because they’re weary of getting rid of the racist and extremist content.

Considering the testimony and massive internal document dump from Faceborg’s whistleblower, it would appear they relish and count on the racist and extremist content.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:03:13pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:06:26pm

Petition seeks to increase Nebraska minimum wage (WOWT-TV, Omaha)

Proponents of raising the Nebraska minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2026 are seeking a ballot initiative to give the voters a choice.

The Raise the Wage Nebraska Coalition is seeking more than 87,000 signatures they say are needed to qualify for the November 2022 ballot. This would allow voters to decide whether the state should increase the minimum wage from the current $9 per hour.

State senators Megan Hunt from the 8th District and Terrell McKinney from the 11th District are part of the Raise the Wage Nebraska Coalition. McKinney delivered paperwork to the Nebraska Secretary of State office on Monday to get the process rolling.

(more)

Nebraskans previously voted in favor of a minimum wage increase in 2014. But some economists warn raising the minimum wage can have negative consequences.

“You know, the question I would ask is are people better off with a wage, or better off losing their job having no wage,” said Dr. Art Diamond, Economics Professor at the University of Nebraska Omaha. “Because for some people that’s gonna be the choice.”

“You know there are places all over the country, all over the world, that have been able to raise the wage for their workers and the economy didn’t collapse, the businesses didn’t all fail.”
Sen. Megan Hunt, Nebraska, District 8

That minimum wage increase passed by the voters in 2014 was then stonewalled by Governor Ricketts until the state was sued to implement it.

It was raised to $9.00/hr in 2016.

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mmmirele  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:06:31pm

re: #42 JC1

I think that AI is already there for 95%+ of the issues. If anything, the problem would be with false positives, which could then be checked by humans once someone flags it. A standard training set for AI sentiment detection is looking at the text of IMDb user movie reviews and determining whether the review was positive or negative. Detecting whether or not a post is racist or extremist or X is just a matter of putting together the appropriate training set.
My guess is that FB is weary of actually getting rid of racist and extremist content because it would cost them too much money. I would be shocked if they actually didn’t cripple their AI setup to not be too good at it.

1) I don’t think AI is there for these issues yet, based on my own experience. You’d THINK that an AI would be able to figure out that four preceding zeroes should be dropped to get to the account number, but nope. And that’s just a usual thing. Computing power works SUPER when the transactions are all similar in format and there’s a bucket for rejects. Not so much for pictures or words…I mean, how are you going to deal with (for example) the “fourteen words” if people start getting imaginative.

2) I think FB isn’t weary of getting rid of racist and extremist content. FB knows it will lose a LOT of money if it bumps all these fascists and extremist adjacent people from its platform.

And why I was originally going to post…apparently another woman came forward on Friday to announce she was raped by Danny Masterson, who is facing trial on criminal charges he raped three other women around the same period.

Late Friday night, a woman named Kathleen Jenkins made a startling claim on Twitter.

Responding to a tweet that Bobette Riales had posted in 2017, Jenkins said that she too had been raped by Danny Masterson and had been too afraid to talk about it.

We spoke with Jenkins yesterday, and she said that she had been completely unaware that there had been other women making allegations against Masterson until this week.

“I still work in film, and I just work all day and come home and I don’t really read the news,” she says. But last month, a niece called her from a bar saying that she suspected she’d been “roofied” — that someone had put a “date rape” drug in her drink.

“She was with her friends and so it was all right,” Jenkins says, but it got her thinking about something she had remembered happening to her more than 20 years ago.

This week, she says, she entered Danny Masterson’s name in a search engine for the first time, and she was stunned to see all of the news stories about rape allegations against him.

Masterson is awaiting trial that could put him in prison for 45 years to life if he’s found guilty of violently raping three women in incidents that happened between 2001 and 2003. Masterson has said he’s innocent of the charges, and he’s being represented by defense attorney Tom Mesereau.

We first broke the news in 2017 that the three women had gone to the LAPD with their allegations, and since then we reported that a total of seven women had been interviewed in the investigation.

In her charging papers, former Los Angeles District Attorney Jackie Lacey indicated that besides the three women whose allegations she was charging Masterson under, there were two additional women whose allegations were not being included. One of them was Riales, and the other woman’s allegations were from 1996.

tonyortega.org

Oh, and on top of the criminal case, there’s a civil case being bounced back and forth through the California courts, with the courts saying that the women have to go through Scientology’s “arbitration system” (which is a joke) to get at Masterson and Scientology for monetary damages. Even if they don’t believe in Scientology.

Which brings me to: Don’t sign anything a church gives you, just don’t, because this is what will happen if you get screwed. You will get screwed again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:10:34pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:10:37pm
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JC1  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:12:57pm

re: #47 mmmirele

1) I don’t think AI is there for these issues yet, based on my own experience. You’d THINK that an AI would be able to figure out that four preceding zeroes should be dropped to get to the account number, but nope. And that’s just a usual thing. Computing power works SUPER when the transactions are all similar in format and there’s a bucket for rejects. Not so much for pictures or words…I mean, how are you going to deal with (for example) the “fourteen words” if people start getting imaginative.

2) I think FB isn’t weary of getting rid of racist and extremist content. FB knows it will lose a LOT of money if it bumps all these fascists and extremist adjacent people from its platform.

And why I was originally going to post…apparently another woman came forward on Friday to announce she was raped by Danny Masterson, who is facing trial on criminal charges he raped three other women around the same period.

tonyortega.org

Oh, and on top of the criminal case, there’s a civil case being bounced back and forth through the California courts, with the courts saying that the women have to go through Scientology’s “arbitration system” (which is a joke) to get at Masterson and Scientology for monetary damages. Even if they don’t believe in Scientology.

Which brings me to: Don’t sign anything a church gives you, just don’t, because this is what will happen if you get screwed. You will get screwed again.

How familiar are you with deep neural network models and the progress made in the past few years? Facebook is actually driving much of the cutting edge AI research with their PyTorch library; one of the few beneficial things they’re doing.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:21:38pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:23:17pm

re: #50 JC1

How familiar are you with deep neural network models and the progress made in the past few years? Facebook is actually driving much of the cutting edge AI research with their PyTorch library; one of the few beneficial things they’re doing.

I would put money on it not being beneficial. Fascistbook doesn’t do anything which isn’t for the benefit of itself.

They also claimed their pschological-driven newsfeed run by Cambridge Analytica was supposed to be beneficial.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:25:38pm

Republican corruption continues:

Zoom Zoom (Goes to Juanita Jean’s, The World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon)

Okay y’all, it appears that Texas Senator John Cornyn has purchased himself an automobile with his campaign donations.

Take a lookie here:

(with receipts)

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JC1  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:27:10pm

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would put money on it not being beneficial. Fascistbook doesn’t do anything which isn’t for the benefit of itself.

They also claimed their pschological-driven newsfeed run by Cambridge Analytica was supposed to be beneficial.

Oh, I’m sure that their purpose is not altruistic. But, they release the source code and license its use to anyone. It’s been a real boon to researchers. I think that PyTorch is driving more AI research currently than Google’s Tensor Flow.

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sagehen  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:27:22pm

re: #50 JC1

How familiar are you with deep network models and the progress made in the past few years? Facebook is actually driving much of the cutting edge AI research with their PyTorch library; one of the few beneficial things they’re doing.

Anything beneficial Facebook has done was an unanticipated side effect of whatever it was they were trying to do.

Not that there’s anything wrong with beneficial unanticipated side effects — there was a Big Pharma R&D lab about 75 years ago trying to create a treatment for endometriosis… it wasn’t until the Phase 3 clinical trials that they discovered this medication was also a contraceptive.

(the doctors back at headquarters thought this was a problem, they wanted to alter the formula to eliminate this side effect. It was the nurses who had daily contact with the test subjects had to tell HQ that no no no, the women LOVE this about it, we’re being inundated with would-be volunteers for exactly this reason)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:28:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:28:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:38:15pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

American in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:44:00pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Must be that “armed society is a polite society” thing they like to push.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:53:32pm
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Jay C  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:57:05pm

re: #60 jaunte

Gonna still be looking, IMHO….

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Dangerman  Oct 17, 2021 • 12:58:33pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

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Long before age 30 I had developed my own goals.
It was then and still is now easy to ignore what other people think I should want

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:00:14pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:00:47pm
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:04:52pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

And they have taken this long to figure that out?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:11:15pm

Under Canada’s so-called “Less Complex Claims” process for asylum, a religious person can claim asylum for persecution, but atheists cannot.

This was brought to the fore in 2011 when a Pakistani atheist teenager was threatened with death over religion. He was beaten by five men, his fingers cut off, and his kidnappers burned “repent” into his arm.

When he explained to his parents what happened after he escaped, his parents disowned him and threw him out.

The Karachi police launched an investigation, not to find his kidnappers, but his atheist friends. They were beaten and tortured by the police, and one remains in jail awaiting the death penalty.

He went into hiding, and the Centre for Inquiry helped smuggle him out to Canada. The UN High Commissioner on Refugees declared him to be a refugee in 2019.

As of yet, Canada has not approved his asylum claim, and he fears deportation back to Pakistan.

Atheist persecution is not grounds for asylum in Canada or the United States.

CFI Canada, Humanist Canada, and Secular Connexion Séculière presented a petition to Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith (Beaches—East York, Ontario) on June 22, 2021. It has not yet been taken up. The petition received about five times the number required for consideration by the House of Commons.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:16:32pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, my home country needs to change that, big time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:17:29pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, my home country needs to change that, big time.

So does the USA (not a chance).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:17:49pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:18:12pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:22:50pm

re: #70 Patricia Kayden

When do people start operating like Facebook INTENDS to be racist and harmful?

When do people stop relying on FB for anything other than information on friends, family and local events?

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:25:33pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

I ALWAYS thought that. He obviously knows, they all must, and they have handled it well, by just staying above it.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:28:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:28:33pm

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When do people start operating like Facebook INTENDS to be racist and harmful?

When do people stop relying on FB for anything other than information on friends, family and local events?

Friends and family are some of the biggest spreaders of misinformation about Covid-19, vaccines, racism, fascism, misogyny, &c.

My position on Facebook is well-known, as in “why do people rely on it at all for anything?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:30:09pm

I fucking hate that politicians can so publicly do shit that would get them fired from most other jobs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:30:45pm

European Court on Human Rights sides with child sex abuse crime ring.

Dismissing Catholic abuse victims’ lawsuit, ECHR rules Vatican cannot be sued in European courts (CNN)

That’s not terribly surprising since there are a lot of Catholics who continue to support the Church and overlook sexually abusing children. Price of religious freedom or something.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:33:45pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:36:07pm
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sagehen  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:36:10pm

re: #65 PhillyPretzel

And they have taken this long to figure that out?

It’s been a steady rumor ever since young Harry was seen to be a redhead.

I don’t know how it works in English law, but by Jewish law if mom’s husband says it’s his, then it’s his. DNA is irrelevant.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:37:24pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:39:18pm
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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:40:09pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

Are they blaming Mercury Retrograde on Joe, too?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:40:34pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

Gaaa. I only went to high school and I can explain it.

Mercury in retrograde means it became a conservative. /s

Seriously, on these “person on the street interviews,” I wonder how many of the people who explained it correctly (the denominator) were rejected to get the dumbest answers (the numerator).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:43:59pm

Associated Press, October 13:

Suit: US enabling LGBTQ discrimination in foster program

Religion poisons everything, part eleventy-million:

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — The federal government is funding organizations that illegally discriminate against LGBTQ candidates to become foster care parents for unaccompanied refugee children, a lawsuit filed Wednesday alleges.

According to the 29-page complaint, Kelly Easter has been turned away twice from fostering a migrant child in the federal foster care program while living in Nashville, Tennessee.

The lawsuit alleges that Michigan-based Bethany Christian Services refused to permit Easter to be a foster parent late last year because she is a lesbian. Bethany is the only organization located near Easter that is participating in the federal program.

A few months after turning Easter away, Bethany’s leadership announced in March that it had changed its policy and would now be accepting applications from LGBTQ families, the lawsuit says.

But the agency told Easter she would have to drive to its office in Smyrna, Tennessee, a half-hour away, because its office located closer to her Nashville home is under contract with the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, which won’t certify same-sex couples as foster parents.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:44:40pm

re: #78 Dread Pirate Ron

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:49:06pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Friends and family are some of the biggest spreaders of misinformation about Covid-19, vaccines, racism, fascism, misogyny, &c.

My position on Facebook is well-known, as in “why do people rely on it at all for anything?”

Because there is no other available communication system that works with 2,700+ of my friends and acquaintances on it. I am in regular contact with relatives who, without the Book of Faces, would not even have heard from me for 40 years and never would again; childhood friends from back to 70 years ago. My sport, disc golf, lives, breathes and organizes on Facebook at the club and state level, one reason why there is the energy to be currently building 3.5 new disc golf courses a day. Before retirement I traveled a lot and have friends I may never see again but who are very important to me. Heck, I have very good friends whom I never physically met. I really could go on and on. Whatever replaces Facebook needs to have a heck of a lot of functionality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:49:07pm

re: #65 PhillyPretzel

And they have taken this long to figure that out?

and really, whose business is it?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:52:27pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not my business. What other people do in their lives is their own business.

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sagehen  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:54:35pm

re: #73 Dread Pirate Ron

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Aren’t the shoes and luggage donations from American charities? The refugees didn’t show up to the border with them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:55:43pm

Via the Wichita, Kans. Eagle:

After four months of delays, the Wichita City Council passed a nondiscrimination ordinance Tuesday aimed at banning discrimination in housing, employment and public accommodations.

The council voted 6-1 to approve the ordinance, with Jeff Blubaugh voting against.

The council also rejected a carve out that would have allowed religious groups to fire or refuse to hire LGBTQ+ individuals at will, an amendment proposed by City Council member Jared Cerullo, the first openly gay man to serve on the council.

Cerullo said he proposed the amendment to help bridge the divide between religious groups who oppose the ordinance and those who wanted it to pass. But City Council members Becky Tuttle and Cindy Claycomb said the amendment would “dilute” the entire ordinance.

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Wichita passes nondiscrimination ordinance, rejects religious carve out

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:56:35pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

I knew that at 10 years old.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:59:06pm

Friendly PSA:

When giving large German Shepherd Doggo a bath, take pain reliever before the event, not after. Ouch. Owie. Ouch.

Cleo has skin issues in her private area, likely from lots of hair (OMGTHEHAIR)trapping urine and poop in her fur, causing irritation and licking and biting. She’s also got some irritation under her front legs, where they join her body. So we have some spray hydrocortisone, some hydrocortisone cream, some Benedryl in both caplet and topical form, along with an antibacterial/anti fungal spray. She’s about done with the worst of blowing her coat for the season, I’d like to clear up this ack before it grows back.

I hurt, OMG. Lol, wresting 90 lbs of dog in the shower with touchy skin hurty places is a bit more labor intensive that you might think. But it’s done and she’s resting comfortably. I managed to make a lasagna, clean the house up moderately well and catch up on laundry. I will not be moving from this spot, except to take Cleo out, until tomorrow. Ouch.

How’s everyone else’s Sunday going?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2021 • 1:59:32pm

brother update:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:01:02pm

re: #86 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Whatever replaces Facebook needs to have a heck of a lot of functionality.

An anti-monopoly suit would do it.

Innovation was stifled by Bell Telephone for decades. After they were dragged kicking and screaming through the courts and broken up, innovation at the Baby Bells and start-up competitors exploded.

Now that the Baby Bells are back under the banner of AT&T, they are busy funding fascist outlets like OANN.

However did thousands of people organise before the advent of Facebook? I guess we’ll just never know.

I’m going to head off to bed. It’s way past my bedtime.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:01:12pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:01:19pm

re: #60 jaunte

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As my very witty (and usually fairly dignified) lady friend Carol would say, “Those turds couldn’t get laid in a monkey whorehouse if they owned a banana plantation.”

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:01:47pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Good. No religious exemptions to allow discrimination is the correct way to go.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:04:27pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dangerman  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:09:08pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

Friendly PSA:

When giving large German Shepherd Doggo a bath, take pain reliever before the event, not after. Ouch. Owie. Ouch.

Cleo has skin issues in her private area, likely from lots of hair (OMGTHEHAIR)trapping urine and poop in her fur, causing irritation and licking and biting. She’s also got some irritation under her front legs, where they join her body. So we have some spray hydrocortisone, some hydrocortisone cream, some Benedryl in both caplet and topical form, along with an antibacterial/anti fungal spray. She’s about done with the worst of blowing her coat for the season, I’d like to clear up this ack before it grows back.

I hurt, OMG. Lol, wresting 90 lbs of dog in the shower with touchy skin hurty places is a bit more labor intensive that you might think. But it’s done and she’s resting comfortably. I managed to make a lasagna, clean the house up moderately well and catch up on laundry. I will not be moving from this spot, except to take Cleo out, until tomorrow. Ouch.

How’s everyone else’s Sunday going?

Once i tried giving my cat a bath
But the fur kept sticking to my tongue

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:10:36pm

More Halloween party treats!
Delicious Kitty Litter Cake!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:10:48pm

re: #99 Dangerman

Once i tried giving my cat a bath
But the fur kept sticking to my tongue

*thwak*

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steve_davis  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:11:11pm

re: #92 A Mom Anon

Friendly PSA:

When giving large German Shepherd Doggo a bath, take pain reliever before the event, not after. Ouch. Owie. Ouch.

Cleo has skin issues in her private area, likely from lots of hair (OMGTHEHAIR)trapping urine and poop in her fur, causing irritation and licking and biting. She’s also got some irritation under her front legs, where they join her body. So we have some spray hydrocortisone, some hydrocortisone cream, some Benedryl in both caplet and topical form, along with an antibacterial/anti fungal spray. She’s about done with the worst of blowing her coat for the season, I’d like to clear up this ack before it grows back.

I hurt, OMG. Lol, wresting 90 lbs of dog in the shower with touchy skin hurty places is a bit more labor intensive that you might think. But it’s done and she’s resting comfortably. I managed to make a lasagna, clean the house up moderately well and catch up on laundry. I will not be moving from this spot, except to take Cleo out, until tomorrow. Ouch.

How’s everyone else’s Sunday going?

It’s why I have a cat. She probably has skin issues, but fuck me if she’ll let me anywhere near any of them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:13:39pm
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:18:08pm

re: #15 Dopamine Fish

Computers are designed and built to perform repetitive tasks at an extremely high speed. They are extremely efficient at this. However, when you break it down, the complex interactions of humans are not repetitive, they are constantly changing. Trying to manage hate speech with an algorithm is nothing more than a cheap cop-out to avoid paying the army of people they’d need to do the job properly. I’m sure that eventually, it’ll be possible to build AIs that are efficient at evolving and adapting to changes in patterns, but it’ll be a very long time before then, and even longer before they approach the ability of humans to do the job, if ever.

Your spam filter has been doing a pretty good job for nearly 20 years, and it’s one of the simplest AI algorithms out there. But there’s the uncanny valley of sema tics that will be hard to cross unless the algorithms start understanding and that will take a while.

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plansbandc  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:24:28pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:26:30pm

The thing is, though, from what we’ve seen the last few years, would humans really do any better than an AI?

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:30:11pm

re: #106 Belafon

The thing is, though, from what we’ve seen the last few years, would humans really do any better than an AI?

Sweet Cthulhu and the Acolytes I doubt it.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:32:37pm
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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:35:43pm

re: #108 Dread Pirate Ron

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Who’s gonna tell Putin’s Puppet Glenn?

Well it doesn’t matter who does that because Glenn will stick his fingers in his ears like the little snot kid he’s always been.

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JC1  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:43:47pm

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When do people start operating like Facebook INTENDS to be racist and harmful?

When do people stop relying on FB for anything other than information on friends, family and local events?

Facebook is a great advertising platform for business. Allows for very targeted campaigns.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:55:59pm

READ THIS THREAD:

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nines09  Oct 17, 2021 • 2:59:10pm

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:05:49pm

Ok if y’awl don’t like pineapple on your pizza how about…

…a Stoner Pie from Gumby’s Pizza?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:06:41pm

re: #113 JOE 🥓

Ok if y’awl don’t like pineapple on your pizza how about…

…a Stoner Pie from Gumby’s Pizza?

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That needs poutine.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:18:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:19:50pm

re: #115 The Pie Overlord!

Lauren buys all her Christmas pressies from China?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:23:38pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lauren buys all her Christmas pressies from China?

Yeah, I don’t get it. There are plenty of domestic gun manufacturers.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:36:49pm

re: #81 gocart mozart

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You win with the “welcome to Asbury Park, NJ” reference. all the karma.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:45:52pm

re: #115 The Pie Overlord!

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OOPS! Somebody forgot about how DeJerk is fucking up the mail!

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calochortus  Oct 17, 2021 • 3:58:47pm

re: #115 The Pie Overlord!

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Well, this atheist’s Christmas won’t be canceled*. I wonder why she can’t have a religious holiday without imported stuff?

*We will have a couple gifts for the grandkids, but I’m making those and adults just do charitable donations. Beyond that we just enjoy having the family get together.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:02:28pm

We know why De SADIST did that!

Florida Withheld Daily COVID Tolls for Nearly 4 Months

thedailybeast.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:04:46pm

Police: Man’s gun goes off during cleaning, strikes woman in next-door apartment
Neighbor is dead. 17 year old son found her. Shooter behind bars.


Goober von Fuckup, well-regulated militia, charged with killing neighbor.
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A Mom Anon  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:07:31pm

re: #120 calochortus

At our house Christmas has become more about the food than the gifts. My family isn’t present in our lives(their choice)and my husband’s family is mostly in FL so we usually spend the holidays alone. Hubby and I stopped doing gifts a long time ago and only get something for our son and hubby’s parents. This year the kid is getting an Iron Maiden quilt with all the album covers and versions of Eddie(except the most recent album/Eddie) that The Husband found online. We got his parents a custom made metal thing that hangs on a wall, fence or door that has their last name and the date they got married on it. I still haven’t decided on the holiday menu yet, but to me that has become way more significant than presents.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:08:05pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Police: Man’s gun goes off during cleaning, strikes woman in next-door apartment
Neighbor is dead. 17 year old son found her. Shooter behind bars.

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Goober von Fuckup, well-regulated militia, charged with killing neighbor.

This is a great analogy for people not wearing their masks or getting the vaccine.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:10:11pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s pretty spot on. I can’t really think of a Republican who doesn’t fit at least one of those 4 categories.

Hell, Matt Gaetz is practically a grand slam as he fits all of them.

There are others: such as climate change deniers and plutocrats.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:10:16pm

re: #111 The Pie Overlord!

Most Americans are not aware of the fallout from the war we call the French and Indian war.

If one reads the Declaration of Independence far enough down, into the small print about which the “patriots” on right wing grift-media never mention, you can see the authors complaining about the “red” man.

Why?

Because the British crown had agreed to limit the borders of the British colonies. This meant that colonists could not move westward freely or attack the native Americans west of the established colony borders.

Manifest Destiny is nothing less than a repudiation of this limitation that the crown had created.

In other words, the Declaration of Independence as we call it is also a declaration that the colonists could over-run the continent at their will.

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calochortus  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:12:50pm

re: #123 A Mom Anon

At our house Christmas has become more about the food than the gifts. My family isn’t present in our lives(their choice)and my husband’s family is mostly in FL so we usually spend the holidays alone. Hubby and I stopped doing gifts a long time ago and only get something for our son and hubby’s parents. This year the kid is getting an Iron Maiden quilt with all the album covers and versions of Eddie(except the most recent album/Eddie) that The Husband found online. We got his parents a custom made metal thing that hangs on a wall, fence or door that has their last name and the date they got married on it. I still haven’t decided on the holiday menu yet, but to me that has become way more significant than presents.

That’s the way to do it! We do Christmas Eve dinner for the family and a couple neighbors who might as well be family. (Except for last year because of Covid.) This year I need to come up with a vegetarian alternative to our traditional beef for daughter-in-law and son who have gone vegetarian, though son may still opt for meat on festive occasions. I’ll need to check that.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:15:04pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:22:01pm

re: #120 calochortus

Well, this atheist’s Christmas won’t be canceled*. I wonder why she can’t have a religious holiday without imported stuff?

*We will have a couple gifts for the grandkids, but I’m making those and adults just do charitable donations. Beyond that we just enjoy having the family get together.

The Grinch stole ALL THE PRESENTS & THE ROAST BEAST and yet Whoville still celebrated the holiday.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:30:28pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:32:30pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Friends and family are some of the biggest spreaders of misinformation about Covid-19, vaccines, racism, fascism, misogyny, &c.

My position on Facebook is well-known, as in “why do people rely on it at all for anything?”

So true!! It’s not FB itself that posts articles that incense me, it’s my FB friends and their friends who infuriate me.

Recently there was a discussion on MSNBC (? or maybe CNN) about how RW media publishes articles specifically designed to agitate their base and lead them to attack (at least verbally) those who they characterize as leftists (or whatever the insult du jour is). What I have found is that this RW base is what triggers my reactions as they propagate the lies and misrepresentations that they have been told and have fully adopted as their “truth”.

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dat_said  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:32:39pm

re: #129 The Pie Overlord!

The Grinch stole ALL THE PRESENTS & THE ROAST BEAST and yet Whoville still celebrated the holiday.

Fah who foraze! Dah who doraze!

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calochortus  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:34:18pm

re: #129 The Pie Overlord!

The Grinch stole ALL THE PRESENTS & THE ROAST BEAST and yet Whoville still celebrated the holiday.

Maybe we just need to celebrate Unnecessary Consumption Day sometime in mid 2022 instead? I have never understood the necessity to buy your kid the latest, coolest gift if you have to trample others underfoot to get it Right Now.

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Cheechako  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:35:24pm

re: #121 JOE 🥓

We know why De SADIST did that!

Florida Withheld Daily COVID Tolls for Nearly 4 Months

thedailybeast.com

Someday in the future, there will be a day of reckoning . Writers, scientists, medical researchers, and others will be going through each States Covid-19 data and related death certificates with a fine-toothed comb. They will find some astonishing numbers when the truth comes out. Hopefully, some reputations will be irreparably damaged.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:35:58pm

He is a monster but just remember that 50 Republicans are worse than he is.

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calochortus  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:36:20pm

re: #134 Cheechako

Someday in the future, there will be a day of reckoning . Writers, scientists, medical researchers, and others will be going through each States Covid-19 data and related death certificates with a fine-toothed comb. They will find some astonishing numbers when the truth comes out. Hopefully, some reputations will be irreparably damaged.

Probably too late to bother the people doing the stuff now though.

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steve_davis  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:39:24pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Police: Man’s gun goes off during cleaning, strikes woman in next-door apartment
Neighbor is dead. 17 year old son found her. Shooter behind bars.

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Goober von Fuckup, well-regulated militia, charged with killing neighbor.

I could theoretically now kill a neighbor with noise pollution: “Please God, let them recognize that was supposed to be T-Bone Walker, and not my cat untangling herself from the strings.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:42:37pm

Work requirements for benefits increases the supply of labor so companies have to negotiate less to form contracts with workers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2021 • 4:43:33pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:05:42pm

re: #79 sagehen

It’s been a steady rumor ever since young Harry was seen to be a redhead.

I don’t know how it works in English law, but by Jewish law if mom’s husband says it’s his, then it’s his. DNA is irrelevant.

I’m very late to this party, but before you go running off after wild geese, put a picture of Prince Charles at around 30 next to one of Prince Harry and compare them. Yup, one is brunette and the other is a redhead, but otherwise…

Me, I’m going back to ignoring tabloid trash.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:08:20pm

Yes, but how would one differentiate the physical resemblances between British nobles caused by copious inbreeding versus that caused by bastardry.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:15:00pm

re: #121 JOE 🥓

We know why De SADIST did that!

Florida Withheld Daily COVID Tolls for Nearly 4 Months

thedailybeast.com

But they did publish state wide numbers periodically, but not on a timely basis and not county level counts. The real question is: how many COVID deaths were deliberately attributed to other causes so that total COVID deaths were misrepresented.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:17:09pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

Yes, but how would one differentiate the physical resemblances between British nobles caused by copious inbreeding versus that caused by bastardry.

In Derry, they start by assuming they’re all bastards.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:20:57pm

The latest *cough* masterpiece from master MAGA propagandist Jon McNaughton.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:21:58pm
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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:23:46pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:26:30pm

re: #111 The Pie Overlord!

READ THIS THREAD:

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Among several hundred thousand colonists and thirteen colonies you are likely to find many more than one reason for seeking independence. (The Stamp Tax riots were in 1766.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:27:10pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

The latest *cough* masterpiece from master MAGA propagandist Jon McNaughton.

Speaking of nutjob propagandists: Any word on Ben Garrisons condition?

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:27:51pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of nutjob propagandists: Any word on Ben Garrisons condition?

It’s still alive.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:32:10pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

Just stop by to see what condition his condition was in?

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:33:10pm

Two more just added to sorryantivaxxer.com

Idiot #1—Ayesha Kreutz, 48, Rochester, NY, Fredrick Douglas Foundation NY. Anti-vaxxer. ICU with COVID.

According to social media posts (below) and this gofundme, Ayesha Kreutz is in the ICU on a ventilator with COVID. Ayesha is the former President and current Chaplain for the Fredrick Douglass Foundation of New York. She is very conservative, and is very much against the vaccines and any kind of mandates. She’s been part of demonstrations at Rochester Hospitals throughout the pandemic. People in her corner have been battling Highland Hospital in Court to force the hospital to treat her with Ivermectin, as of October 14th it seems like they won that battle. This will be interesting to watch.

sorryantivaxxer.com

Idiot #2—
Roger “Danger” Gundersen, 48, Vancouver, WA, anti-vaxxer, Ivermectin worshiper, Dead, COVID.

UPDATE (10/17/21): Scott Miller, the physicians assistant, who wrote the Ivermectin Prescription for Roger Gundersen, and can be seen on the Infowars segment posted here, has had his medical license suspended by the State of Washington for his actions with the Gundersens. Click here for the story.

sorryantivaxxer.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:44:12pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of nutjob propagandists: Any word on Ben Garrisons condition?

He’s brain dead.

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darthstar  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:46:51pm

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

photoshopped

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Good…glad to hear that. I love those fuckers when I’m out paddling or surfing.

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TedStriker  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:47:07pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

The latest *cough* masterpiece from master MAGA propagandist Jon McNaughton.

If only, particularly for Trump and the MAGA pushers.

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:47:52pm

re: #152 I Would Prefer Not To

He’s brain dead.

Ben Garrison started out that way: how can we tell the difference?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:48:29pm

re: #152 I Would Prefer Not To

He’s brain dead.

That was a pre-existing condition.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:50:37pm

There’s green shit on my radar. What does it mean?

158
The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:50:40pm

I’m looking at all the pictures that I posted to FB for the past 3 years. It’s all pictures of food!

159
darthstar  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:50:57pm

Went to a local winery this afternoon

(hosting a friend visiting from CT)…cheers, everyone.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:51:36pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:52:02pm

re: #157 Dread Pirate Ron

There’s green shit on my radar. What does it mean?

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So far it seems to mean lots of grey stuff in the sky and nothing falling from it.

Bummer.

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darthstar  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:52:02pm

re: #157 Dread Pirate Ron

There’s green shit on my radar. What does it mean?

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It means I don’t have to water the Hydrangeas.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:52:13pm

re: #157 Dread Pirate Ron

There’s green shit on my radar. What does it mean?

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Weather Channel saying rain will start in Los Angeles around 2AM and go thru the morning.

164
Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:52:24pm

The Apple TV show actually features his writers, but in a slightly cringe-worthy way.

165
Belafon  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:53:35pm

re: #135 The Pie Overlord!

He is a monster but just remember that 50 Republicans are worse than he is.

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Biden should write an op-ed to WV about why citizens there should have a work requirement.

166
darthstar  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:53:45pm

One of our neighbors updated their ocean themed decorations for Halloween.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:55:50pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

The latter, I think. I saw him more than once working without a script during the Daily Show times, and he was witty without it. Always too sanguine about the danger of the right wing, though.

168
mmmirele  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:56:12pm

re: #50 JC1

How familiar are you with deep neural network models and the progress made in the past few years? Facebook is actually driving much of the cutting edge AI research with their PyTorch library; one of the few beneficial things they’re doing.

The difference between a bank and Facebook is *reliability*. When you’re playing with Other People’s Money, people tend to come completely unglued if they can’t virtually fondle it at any time, day or night. Facebook has stresses on it (see people losing their shit when FB was down a few weeks ago), but I can guarantee you it is not processing well over a trillion dollars of transactions in a number of different channels every day. The biggest banks are. We’re not going to be bringing in neural nets and AI until it’s been broken and broken and broken and finally proven to be reliable. That’s not right now. Heck, we’re just now taking baby steps into the cloud.

169
KingKenrod  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:57:29pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

The latest *cough* masterpiece from master MAGA propagandist Jon McNaughton.

They let him keep his cap?

170
KingKenrod  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:58:18pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of nutjob propagandists: Any word on Ben Garrisons condition?

He still can’t paint.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:58:28pm

re: #169 KingKenrod

McNaughton’s version of putting a big Ben Garrison label on it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 5:59:29pm

re: #169 KingKenrod

They let him keep his cap?

It’s surgically attached to his scalp.

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:01:24pm

re: #172 The Pie Overlord!

It’s surgically attached to his scalp.

Glued on with ivermectin paste

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darthstar  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:02:24pm

Today on our local beach…and it’s reading Edward Albee’s “Seascape”…

Things get weird around here around halloween…I bought eggs the other day from a woman riding a rooster.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:11:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:13:18pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:17:31pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

178
jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:27:03pm

Manchin and the Republicans don’t care about child poverty, they care about keeping taxes low for their donors.

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A Cranky One  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:30:41pm

Hmmm.. should I get this vacation home?

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JC1  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:33:10pm

re: #168 mmmirele

The difference between a bank and Facebook is *reliability*. When you’re playing with Other People’s Money, people tend to come completely unglued if they can’t virtually fondle it at any time, day or night. Facebook has stresses on it (see people losing their shit when FB was down a few weeks ago), but I can guarantee you it is not processing well over a trillion dollars of transactions in a number of different channels every day. The biggest banks are. We’re not going to be bringing in neural nets and AI until it’s been broken and broken and broken and finally proven to be reliable. That’s not right now. Heck, we’re just now taking baby steps into the cloud.

Neural nets are used in some image recognition software for checks. But, your point is well taken that the banking industry has stricter rules and requirements than FB. 95% accurate is not good enough for a bank, but would go a long way to getting rid of toxic content. My point is that image recognition and natural language processing AI have made major advances in the past few years. If FB decided that they actually want to eliminate toxic content, they could do so quite well with AI that they have currently available.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:34:46pm

re: #60 jaunte

Proud Boys are more interested in trolling than they are actually doing things that appeal to average women.

Trolling from a position of entitlement is all they know.

182
jaunte  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:36:52pm

re: #179 A Cranky One

It’s weird when people who can spend that kind of money on a house blow right by any idea of architecture and just put up a convention center.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:36:55pm

re: #50 JC1

How familiar are you with deep neural network models and the progress made in the past few years? Facebook is actually driving much of the cutting edge AI research with their PyTorch library; one of the few beneficial things they’re doing.

I know there is a major lawsuit going on in the chess programming community between open source Stockfish and Chess Base. Stockfish alleges Chess Base stole it’s neural network coding.

The Stockfish project strongly believes in free and open-source software and data. Collaboration is what made this engine the strongest chess engine in the world. We license our software using the GNU General Public License, Version 3 (GPL) with the intent to guarantee all chess enthusiasts the freedom to use, share and change all versions of the program.

Unfortunately, not everybody shares this vision of openness. We have come to realize that ChessBase concealed from their customers Stockfish as the true origin of key parts of their products (see also earlier blog posts by us and the joint Lichess, Leela Chess Zero, and Stockfish teams). Indeed, few customers know they obtained a modified version of Stockfish when they paid for Fat Fritz 2 or Houdini 6 - both Stockfish derivatives - and they thus have good reason to be upset. ChessBase repeatedly violated central obligations of the GPL, which ensures that the user of the software is informed of their rights. These rights are explicit in the license and include access to the corresponding sources, and the right to reproduce, modify and distribute GPLed programs royalty-free.

stockfishchess.org

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:38:20pm

re: #178 jaunte

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Manchin and the Republicans don’t care about child poverty, they care about keeping taxes low for their donors.

As I keep on saying, as long as there are 50 Republicans in the Senate who vote in lockstep with McConnell, Biden’s hands are totally tied. He cannot force Manchin or Sinema to agree to anything they are truly adamantly opposed to. Remember, there is no public option in the ACA because the Democrats dropped it to appease Lieberman. Biden is in a much more precarious position than Obama was during his first 2 years. There aren’t 2 Republicans who are willing to switch parties and that’s what Biden needs in order to truly get agreement on a real package designed to help Americans.

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calochortus  Oct 17, 2021 • 6:51:46pm

re: #157 Dread Pirate Ron

There’s green shit on my radar. What does it mean?

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Be afraid. Be very afraid.
It’s sprinkling on the peninsula.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 18, 2021 • 4:08:19am

re: #175 Dread Pirate Ron

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So payback from when they did it to them?


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