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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:24:14pm
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retired cynic  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:25:11pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

When they show you who they are (and what they are doing), believe them.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:29:43pm

They are implementing Coup 2 right now with gerrymandering, voter restrictions, voter ID, restricting polling places and I would not be surprised thanks to Lindell that they have the software that can rig machines as well.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:30:58pm

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:35:49pm

Caviezel is not the Messiah. He just played one on the big screen.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:36:22pm

re: #36 Dread Pirate Ron

That was my rant back a few months. the data is useless on anything less than weekly statistics and I don’t trust any Republican state to have enough ethics be honest. I may have a somewhat flexible morality but at least I have ethics.

Apparently our governor put the kibosh on county reporting again for counties under twenty thousand (the previous claim was that would violate state privacy law), so Panhandle Public Health District is reporting Scotts Bluff County, north Panhandle, and south Panhandle.

pphd.org

We’re up to a blistering 38% vaccinated here. Our case rate/100,000 over the last seven days has been 417.3.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:46:29pm

re: #3 JOE 🥓

They are implementing Coup 2 right now with gerrymandering, voter restrictions, voter ID, restricting polling places and I would not be surprised thanks to Lindell that they have the software that can rig machines as well.

Mike Pillow is the biggest clown show in this whole clown show. If they have any such thing, it’s not thanks to him.

He’s got a log dump of thousands of random IP addresses with no context that he says is the Chinese changing votes. The linux file server sitting next to me receives over 20k break in attempts from all over the world. Every. Single. Day. They never get in. I’m certain every internet exposed server gets the same shit. The only reason I didn’t have this issue at my old office, is that I blocked almost the entire internet outside of IPs registered to owners in the US, Canada, and the UK.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:53:35pm

re: #7 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Mike Pillow is the biggest clown show in this whole clown show. If they have any such thing, it’s not thanks to him.

Crackhead Mike’s pal Tina Peters let Ron Q Watkins download the election software. They have it.

denverpost.com

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Oct 25, 2021 • 9:58:02pm

re: #5 DodgerFan1988

“Are you a henchman in Lucifer’s army?”

“No I only go as far as lackey.”

The answer to his questioning… probably the fact that Kirk Acevedo was in Band of Brothers, Fringe, The Walking Dead, Agents of SHIELD, and Arrow while Jimmy boy was in Pay It Forward and up Mel Gibson’s ass after he decided the SSPX was too liberal and didn’t hate the jews enough.

Oh and I just found out they are making a fucking sequel to that abomination too, so that might be why he is crawling out from behind a rock in more ways than one.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2021 • 10:01:41pm

Considering how difficult it is to get my Smart car serviced at Westminster Mercedes-Benz (sorry, not until January), I decided to punch up the Mercedes dealer in Regina, Saskatchewan.

They can do it right away (yay!), but getting across the Canadian border and providing all the documentation in the format they require (plus a Covid-19 test not more than 72 hours before) makes it pretty much impossible for us (boo).

I guess I’ll try the Mercedes dealer in La Vista (Omaha) and see what they can do. (Canada is going to miss out on all our tourist bux I guess.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 25, 2021 • 10:08:24pm

re: #8 JOE 🥓

Crackhead Mike’s pal Tina Peters let Ron Q Watkins download the election software. They have it.

denverpost.com

She claims she’s going to appeal to the state Supreme Court. In the meantime, she’s under local, state, and federal criminal investigation for her part in compromising Mesa County’s election system.

For her part, she calls it a “power grab” by politicians in Denver taking local control away.

The person appointed by the county to oversee the next election is the former Republican Secretary of State.

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mmmirele  Oct 25, 2021 • 10:21:42pm

On a completely different subject, the British Museum has an exhibition of a remarkable collection of ink brush drawings (not woodblock prints, DRAWINGS) by the great master of Japanese woodblock prints Hokusai Katsushika. Basically, it is 103 drawings in a wooden box that was intended for a book never published that would have been called “The Great Picture Book of Everything.”

The Great Picture Book of Everything; Hokusai’s Unpublished Illustrations | #CuratorsCorner S6 Ep8

One thing people forget about Hokusai’s prints is that he was the draughtsman, but there was artistry in cutting the multiple woodblocks for the prints, artistry in mixing the colors, artistry in applying the color to the blocks and then artistry in printing. The thing about these drawings is they show that Hokusai was a superb artist even in just pen and ink.

The exhibition is through 30 January 2022. In London.

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stpaulbear  Oct 25, 2021 • 11:54:52pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Considering how difficult it is to get my Smart car serviced at Westminster Mercedes-Benz (sorry, not until January), I decided to punch up the Mercedes dealer in Regina, Saskatchewan.

They can do it right away (yay!), but getting across the Canadian border and providing all the documentation in the format they require (plus a Covid-19 test not more than 72 hours before) makes it pretty much impossible for us (boo).

I guess I’ll try the Mercedes dealer in La Vista (Omaha) and see what they can do. (Canada is going to miss out on all our tourist bux I guess.)

There are tons of smart cars in the Twin Cities. Probably a good choice of mechanics familiar with them. Probably a Mercedes shop in Rochester MN given that the Mayo Clinic is there. For fun you can drive up to Mineopa State Park and visit their bison herd.

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Cheechako  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:11:58am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:35:57am

So the folks who brought us Pizzagate, Lizard People and Jewish Space Lasers are going to insist that the latest info on the Jan 6th perpetrators is all part of an elaborate hoax nd conspiracy theory.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:47:23am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:14:14am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:28:27am

Why The Hell Haven’t You Deleted Facebook Yet? (Five Dollar Feminist at Wonkette)

BREAKING! ACHTUNG! Facebook is a Doomsday Machine that will kill us all.

Okay, that’s not really news in the year 2021. But seriously, why haven’t you deleted that filthy hell app yet?

In case you’re still swimming in the blue sewer, every major news outlet in the country got its hands on another tranche of leaked Facebook documents this weekend from whistleblower Frances Haugen, and, spoiler alert, it’s really, really bad. Turns out, the company consistently prioritized its own profits over the safety of its users and was delighted to monetize content that it knew was harmful to them. All while touting the world-spanning benefits of its “community” and publicly disclaiming responsibility for the poison it was pumping out into the world.

The Atlantic has a picture of the internal blowback at the company on January 7 after the Capitol had been overrun by people who coordinated their efforts on Facebook.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:34:22am

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Why The Hell Haven’t You Deleted Facebook Yet? (Five Dollar Feminist at Wonkette)

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I do not and never have used it as a source of news.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:42:14am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not and never have used it as a source of news.

I have never used it.

When several years ago it was reported that Facebook was running psychology experiments on its users without any sort of informed consent, ethics oversight, or reporting, at that point the only things I could think of that would be beneficial is the break-up of their monopoly and the jailing of their officers.

The psychology experiment article floated in the news for a day or two, then in came the excuses for Facebook (I need it to keep in contact with ____, look at the positive good they did for _____, &c).

Its users are too invested in it to give it up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:44:37am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have never used it.

Its users are too invested in it to give it up.

again, I use it to keep in touch with far-flung family & friends and to post local events, gigs & sessions.

I also belong to some hobby & interest-related groups.

People who go overboard with political posts or Covid posts get blocked.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:49:21am

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, I use it to keep in touch with far-flung family & friends and to post local events, gigs & sessions.

I also belong to some hobby & interest-related groups.

People who go overboard with political posts or Covid posts get blocked.

I don’t know. When their own employees quit because they say it is immoral to support an immoral corporation, that gives me pause.

From The Atlantic article linked above:

One argument goes something like this: Facebook’s algorithms aren’t magic, its ad targeting isn’t even that good, and most people aren’t that stupid.

All of this may be true, but that shouldn’t be reassuring. An algorithm may just be a big dumb means to an end, a clunky way of maneuvering a massive, dynamic network toward a desired outcome. But Facebook’s enormous size gives it tremendous, unstable power. Facebook takes whole populations of people, pushes them toward radicalism, and then steers the radicalized toward one another.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:51:19am

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t know. When their own employees quit because they say it is immoral to support an immoral corporation, that gives me pause.

From The Atlantic article linked above:

If people are dumb enough to use it as a news source, then the company is just filling a market niche…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:01:28am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If people are dumb enough to use it as a news source, then the company is just filling a market niche…

As the Facebook Papers show, the company intentionally steers otherwise non-political people to extremist content, including the January 6 revolt and Covid disinformation. Facebook’s own people say Zuck will not allow removal of information killing people by virus because that drives down revenues. Never get between a libertarian and his money.

The Washington Post ran an experiment by putting up a dummy account of a woman in North Carolina who’s bio said she was a mother, a Christian, and a Trump supporter. They otherwise did not post anything to the account.

The Facebook algorithm went from posting innocuous stuff to Qanon to the dummy account within two days.

Facebook employees have noted the most dangerous part of Facebook is its groups (any groups). They note the posts which get the most engagement on the site are the ones which get lots of “angry” emojis, and those are the ones most heavily promoted across the site.

Facebook itself has constantly promoted the false dichotomy of open free speech or oppressive government regulations.

The company promotes genocide in multiple countries. How do you think they should be treated? Promoting genocide is a universal jurisdiction crime; it is also against US law.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:03:34am

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Why The Hell Haven’t You Deleted Facebook Yet? (Five Dollar Feminist at Wonkette)

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Can I just point out that the reason 17 newspaper chains are willing to work on this story as a consortium… is because Faceborg has utterly demolished the newspaper business. The papers have a STRONG motivation to push this story as far as they can, to do as much damage as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:06:48am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

you are preaching to the choir here.

I have been aware of how these algorithms work and I believe they contributed to my ex-GF being herded down the CT rabbit hole last year to the point that we lost the ability to discuss politics or current events.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:08:14am

re: #25 sagehen

Can I just point out that the reason 17 newspaper chains are willing to work on this story as a consortium… is because Faceborg has utterly demolished the newspaper business. The papers have a STRONG motivation to push this story as far as they can, to do as much damage as possible.

While at the same time, conventional print and broadcast media are firing investigative reporters and hiring interns & students to mine the Internet for content to publish…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:08:54am

Well, the booster shot is already taking effect and I’m starting to feel like crap, so I’m going to mosey away.re: #25 sagehen

Can I just point out that the reason 17 newspaper chains are willing to work on this story as a consortium… is because Faceborg has utterly demolished the newspaper business. The papers have a STRONG motivation to push this story as far as they can, to do as much damage as possible.

Maybe what the newspaper industry missed here is they didn’t start a rating system for hawt chicks.

Aside from payback, the story is newsworthy. The millions of dead in Burma (Rohingya), India (Muslims), victims of Covid-19 (USA), lie partly at the feet of Facebook. Millions dead is a news story.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:09:45am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes we know we must all bow to your superior morality, only you are ever correct on all matters. The rest of us are just poor folk, either evil or dupes or both.

< rolls eyes >

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:13:07am

re: #29 William Lewis

Yes we know we must all bow to your superior morality, only you are ever correct on all matters. The rest of us are just poor folk, either evil or dupes or both.

< rolls eyes >

He has a point, Facebook has turned into a monster. I am still on it to stay in touch with friends and family. When those contacts migrate to other sites (as with my children, whom I contact through other media) then I will probably move on as well.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:16:15am

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, I use it to keep in touch with far-flung family & friends and to post local events, gigs & sessions.

I also belong to some hobby & interest-related groups.

People who go overboard with political posts or Covid posts get blocked.

I used to belong to a bunch of YahooGroups email lists and LiveJournal communities that served that purpose. Until the Borg groups pulled so much of the user base those channels couldn’t continue to support themselves. Like Walmart putting all the locally owned mom-and-pop shops out of business.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:16:45am

re: #29 William Lewis

Yes we know we must all bow to your superior morality, only you are ever correct on all matters. The rest of us are just poor folk, either evil or dupes or both.

< rolls eyes >

That escalated quickly.

Probably a good time for me to sign off.

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:22:35am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Facebook’s algorithms are truly awful, but there are far too many credulous people who believe everything they read or view on the internet. “I saw it on the internet, it must be true!” is still a rallying cry for ignorance.

And sadly, those same individuals really have no idea how to take steps to check the veracity of anything they do read or see. Aside from better education and learning critical thinking I’m not sure what you can do for them. Many of those same folks really want to believe, whether it is true or not (Paging Fox Mulder… Mr. Mulder please pick up the white courtesy phone).

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Nojay UK  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:27:06am

Facebook — the folks who say “I’m smart! I won’t be fooled by what Facebook shows me in recommendations and adverts, I just use it for social things” are, well, not being smart. Human beings are easily duped, easily distracted and convinced by the most innocuous-looking statements and phrases especially if they’re mixed in with Granny’s birthday party planning and Uncle Joe’s vacation pictures. If you believe those postings (and who doesn’t? Don’t you love your Granny?) then you click on the link to RealPatriotNews that’s inserted between the family news posts and you give it at least some credence because you’ve just been reading about Granny and Uncle Joe.

But you’re smart, really smart, so you’ll stick with Facebook and totally ignore all the interstitial sewage piped into your eyeballs. Honest.

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:29:28am

re: #34 Nojay UK

The folks who say “I’m smart” aren’t.

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:30:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:32:55am

re: #33 The Squire of Logos

Facebook’s algorithms are truly awful, but there are far too many credulous people who believe everything they read or view on the internet. “I saw it on the internet, it must be true!” is still a rallying cry for ignorance.

First of all, that applies to almost any medium (my mom insisted that the only reason she read the National Enquirer was so that she would know what the other ladies at the hairdresser’s were talking about).

I recall some years ago seeing a headline on my ex-GF’s FB thread: “Great Barrier Reef Declared Dead”.

Even a cursory reading of the article indicated that the GBR was far from dead, but that began to make me aware of what a fucking useless source of information FB was.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:33:43am

One thing that has irked me for quite some time is how Facebook has taken over the genealogy world, at least in the English speaking corners.

Facebook a few years ago became the place for genealogy groups. Many local genealogy societies had their own webpages. Now, Ancestry came in and bought up some of the major genealogy websites. But the local genealogy groups pretty much migrated their online existence to Facebook.

And genealogy is mostly done by old folk… and of course Facebook specializes in capturing old folk and feeding them whatever in the guise of nostalgia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:33:54am

re: #34 Nojay UK

But you’re smart, really smart, so you’ll stick with Facebook and totally ignore all the interstitial sewage piped into your eyeballs. Honest.

The sewage is everywhere, not just Facebook. It is a sewage stew out there…

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The Squire of Logos  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:37:00am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The sewage is everywhere, not just Facebook. It is a sewage stew out there…

Agreed.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:37:49am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has a point, Facebook has turned into a monster. I am still on it to stay in touch with friends and family. When those contacts migrate to other sites (as with my children, whom I contact through other media) then I will probably move on as well.

The problem is that he uses that point as a cudgel instead. While I get that people need to understand that there is no such thing as a “good” company and that capitalism is inherently amoral and must be regulated to prevent the consequences of that lack of anything other than a drive for profit. Facebook is just another example of this.

Yet in this modern world we can not do without working with these companies - oil, tech, entertainment - but we can remember that when we do we are dancing with the devil by the pale moonlight and we will pay the consequences sooner or later.

But that is the real world: shades of grey.

For me the trade off remains that if I had not had _any_ Facebook account, I would not have reconnected with my better half after 36 years. According to him, I should not have done that. Sorry but I seem to recall a saying about Sith & absolutes…

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:38:01am
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:40:51am

I’ve deleted the actual Facebook app and the Messenger app from my phone a while ago. (Getting at messages via Chrome or Vivaldi on my phone is difficult though so I might be forced to reinstall messenger much to my displeasure).

I nuked my Instagram account a long time ago because I never used it. I still go to FB through a browser, with tracking and ad blockers up the wiz-way. I’m capable of ignoring the 2 or 3 random wingnut friends from childhood that I still am connected with for whatever reason when they get wingnutty. I never even see anything that looks like news, fake or otherwise unless a friend shares something and I generally ignore that too because the only reason I’m there is to have a way to connect to a handful of people I unfortunately have no other way to and don’t feel the need to rant to (or at) them about how evil Facebook is and they should find some other way to do this.

This reason right here, is the reason almost everyone who doesn’t want to use it, but must, are still there.

And anywhere else they would go, would be just as bad for other reasons. Almost every competing social media network was formed by wingnuts or other libertarian tech-bros under some “free speech” absolutism nonsense that just code for “you can say whatever racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, religious bigoted, hate speech bullshit you want here or bully and harass women, LGBTQ+, and people of color here and we wont delete your account.”

I opened a mewe account last year, almost immediately the founder blasted a message to everyone on the site about how it’s a free speech safe zone and we wont ban your politics. Blah blah FreeDUMB.

I knew exactly what I was getting into at that point, and shut the account down. It was just another gab or parler.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:52:30am

re: #43 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

I keep my Facebook Messenger on my phone, because I use it to communicate with my Pokémon Go group. Otherwise, I haven’t messaged anyone on Facebook or touched the website itself in over a year. My parents get their fix of the grandkids through text messages from my wife and from FaceTime calls between visits.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 4:02:07am

re: #41 William Lewis

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 26, 2021 • 4:08:12am

re: #29 William Lewis

Yes we know we must all bow to your superior morality, only you are ever correct on all matters. The rest of us are just poor folk, either evil or dupes or both.

< rolls eyes >

Paid poster is going to post.

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William Lewis  Oct 26, 2021 • 4:10:33am

re: #45 Dopamine Fish

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 4:13:13am

re: #47 William Lewis

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 4:14:33am

Why we can’t have nice things, part 74:

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Oct 26, 2021 • 4:15:40am

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One thing that has irked me for quite some time is how Facebook has taken over the genealogy world, at least in the English speaking corners.

Facebook a few years ago became the place for genealogy groups. Many local genealogy societies had their own webpages. Now, Ancestry came in and bought up some of the major genealogy websites. But the local genealogy groups pretty much migrated their online existence to Facebook.

This is a problem with just about every interest under the sun, not just genealogy groups. They had their own websites and own discussion forums, now it’s easier and “cheaper” to do it on Facebook so they all do. Reddit and Discord are competitors in this case, but so many people already have FB accounts it becomes a no-brainer for a lot of them to just move there.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 26, 2021 • 4:39:25am
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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 26, 2021 • 5:11:19am

Looking through my Facebook “sponsored content”

Motley Fool
Washington Post
Red Mountain Theater

I do carefully curate what I see though.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2021 • 5:51:41am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If people are dumb enough to use it as a news source, then the company is just filling a market niche…

Pablo Escobar was just filling a market niche.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:01:01am

Ever since this happened last month:

There’s been a low level simmer among the B5 fandom.

Now, given the enormity of today’s entertainment landscape, and with the MCU dominance, the continual profit-harvesting from Star Wars, and the now never-ending supply of short-season series on every possible digital outlet, I’m not sure a B5 series on the CW network can make much of a splash.

With Warner being merged with Discovery, there will likely be a new streaming service (to replace Discovery’s already existing service, which is no where near as popular with the major streaming outlet.)

I presume that if the merger creates such a new streaming service, the real home of any new B5 series will be such a service.

Because CW is the death of shows. CW is hardly watched by anybody. I’ve never even tuned in a CW station (back when I had a TV.) These days the only show it airs that can entice me is Penn and Teller and I can find their shows available online.

But what I find downright silly are all the whiners doomsaying about how “woke” this series will be.

AS IF the originator and apparent future show runner, JMS, somehow did not create the most “woke” series in broadcast SciFi already.

B5 explicitly was anti-fascist. It also had subplots of homosexuality, unusual sexual practices, non-gendered identities, socialism vs. capitalism, racism, etc.

B5 was an ideological show from the start.

If JMS can pull off a reboot, I fully expect him to explore all sorts of issues that will make the throwbacks very unhappy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:09:38am

JMS posted this today, which suggests he at least can answer a few of the bigger production questions:

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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:17:38am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:37:31am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:38:15am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:40:19am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:41:41am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:44:43am

re: #54 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ever since this happened last month:

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There’s been a low level simmer among the B5 fandom.

Now, given the enormity of today’s entertainment landscape, and with the MCU dominance, the continual profit-harvesting from Star Wars, and the now never-ending supply of short-season series on every possible digital outlet, I’m not sure a B5 series on the CW network can make much of a splash.

With Warner being merged with Discovery, there will likely be a new streaming service (to replace Discovery’s already existing service, which is no where near as popular with the major streaming outlet.)

I presume that if the merger creates such a new streaming service, the real home of any new B5 series will be such a service.

Because CW is the death of shows. CW is hardly watched by anybody. I’ve never even tuned in a CW station (back when I had a TV.) These days the only show it airs that can entice me is Penn and Teller and I can find their shows available online.

But what I find downright silly are all the whiners doomsaying about how “woke” this series will be.

AS IF the originator and apparent future show runner, JMS, somehow did not create the most “woke” series in broadcast SciFi already.

B5 explicitly was anti-fascist. It also had subplots of homosexuality, unusual sexual practices, non-gendered identities, socialism vs. capitalism, racism, etc.

B5 was an ideological show from the start.

If JMS can pull off a reboot, I fully expect him to explore all sorts of issues that will make the throwbacks very unhappy.

They just need to imply that they are part of the MCU in the future.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:44:45am

As others pointed out, even the QT of Haberman only points to an article published that day, with no other support for the issue supposedly being covered at all previously.

Only the thinnest of skins allowed it seems.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:45:44am

re: #56 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

No teasing. I’m on my liquid diet for the next 24 hours, starting on the super-flush liquids layer this evening.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:46:39am

re: #59 Belafon

The Brazilian Senate will vote on a report charging Bolsonaro with crimes against humanity. vox.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:49:06am

re: #64 No Malarkey!

The Brazilian Senate will vote on a report charging Bolsonaro with crimes against humanity. vox.com

We couldn’t be that lucky. Could we?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:50:35am

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:52:11am

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

We couldn’t be that lucky. Could we?

The ICC would have to decide whether or not to indict him. It has no jurisdiction in the U.S. against the criminal anti-vaxxers who have killed so many here.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:53:56am

I looked through my Facebook feed this morning and the first thing I see is “Your Memories!” a picture of a pie that I baked 3 years ago. Scrolling down, there is a post by an LGF friend, an ad for duct cleaning, and then a bunch of posts from my 70-yr-old cousin who uses FB to post videos of himself playing the guitar and relaxing with friends and family and dog. No mention of politics but I think he is a Democrat. Lots of “sponsored” posts from liberal groups which I just scroll past (FB wants to encourage those “angry” emojis I see!)

My family uses WhatsApp to stay in touch & share photos and I also use Instagram to post pictures of baked goods which is why they also show up on FB.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 6:58:09am

I see that I am baking the same pies over and over again, I rarely try new recipes any more. But we love the old favorites!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:09:09am

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, the booster shot is already taking effect and I’m starting to feel like crap, so I’m going to mosey away.

Maybe what the newspaper industry missed here is they didn’t start a rating system for hawt chicks.

Aside from payback, the story is newsworthy. The millions of dead in Burma (Rohingya), India (Muslims), victims of Covid-19 (USA), lie partly at the feet of Facebook. Millions dead is a news story.

So far the only side effect I have had was being tired and a good nights sleep took care of that. Now the upper arm on the other hand is still a bit tender at the injection site. Ended up sleeping on my right side because of it.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:10:36am

Well we got a candidate here to challenge Sheriff No-Masker & Antivaxxer.

Seems this guy actually doesn’t want gangs in the Sheriff’s Department and he’s got a problem with deputies being buddies with Andy Ngo and the Proud Boys!

rhamboforsheriff.com

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:10:59am

The King of the B-Movies is back!

Black Friday - Official Trailer

Starring Bruce Campbell and Michael Jai White.

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darthstar  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:20:40am

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:25:38am

re: #69 The Pie Overlord!

I see that I am baking the same pies over and over again, I rarely try new recipes any more. But we love the old favorites!

Do you ever make rhubarb pie? That’s my favorite although it’s almost impossible to buy rhubarb where I live. My Mom brought some from Canada when she visited on the summer.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:34:17am

re: #74 Patricia Kayden

Do you ever make rhubarb pie? That’s my favorite although it’s almost impossible to buy rhubarb where I live. My Mom brought some from Canada when she visited on the summer.

I have never made or even tasted rhubarb. The closest I ever got to rhubarb was as a young newlywed 50 years ago, my neighbor told me that she sent her husband to the store to buy celery and he came home saying, “they were out of green celery but I got pink celery!” (waving a bunch of rhubarb) She then asked did I know how to prepare rhubarb and I was like I have never seen that before.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:38:53am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:39:48am
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darthstar  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:40:06am

Good point.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:45:22am

re: #74 Patricia Kayden

Do you ever make rhubarb pie? That’s my favorite although it’s almost impossible to buy rhubarb where I live. My Mom brought some from Canada when she visited on the summer.

Grandma Bacon would make a strawberry rhubarb pie!

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:47:07am

re: #76 Belafon

Never ceases to amaze me how the California Republican Party gets Ass-Holeyer with each succeeding day.

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wrenchwench  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:47:47am

re: #79 JOE 🥓

Grandma Bacon would make a strawberry rhubarb pie!

Mr. w wants no strawberries in his rhubarb.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 7:51:17am

I’d rather see this in October instead of Christmas stuff…

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:00:21am

re: #56 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:01:24am

what the actual fuck

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A Mom Anon  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:08:07am

re: #84 The Pie Overlord!

Since people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccines and they can’t get enough people to believe that shit, their new tactic is to say within 5 to 15 yrs the only people left alive will be the ones who didn’t get vaccinated. And we will be bleeding out of our eyes, our insides will liquify, etc. Their lies only work on a limited number of people so they gotta change their stories.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:08:49am

Wow, Natasha Sinema sure knows what to do when she ignores a constituent!

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:10:07am

Notice something missing from the headline and the Tweets? Don’t worry…it’s mostly missing from the article itself too. Zero mention of just how heavily Facebook execs, from the top down, helped tailor and even cheat the algorithm to privilege and push extreme right-wing content as a matter of policy. Just paeans to ‘extremism’ and ‘conspiracy theory’ while leaving it mostly an implication that it’s a spectrum-wide problem .You know, both sides, same thing.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:12:02am

re: #60 Belafon

Odd that the Marines now consider orders optional.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:13:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:15:29am

re: #75 The Pie Overlord!

I have never made or even tasted rhubarb. The closest I ever got to rhubarb was as a young newlywed 50 years ago, my neighbor told me that she sent her husband to the store to buy celery and he came home saying, “they were out of green celery but I got pink celery!” (waving a bunch of rhubarb) She then asked did I know how to prepare rhubarb and I was like I have never seen that before.

Strawberry Rhubarb pie was a favorite of mine when I was a kid.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:17:11am

The fix is in. Rittenhouse is gonna walk, the judge is making it extremely clear.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:19:45am

re: #87 Citizen K

Notice something missing from the headline and the Tweets? Don’t worry…it’s mostly missing from the article itself too. Zero mention of just how heavily Facebook execs, from the top down, helped tailor and even cheat the algorithm to privilege and push extreme right-wing content as a matter of policy. Just paeans to ‘extremism’ and ‘conspiracy theory’ while leaving it mostly an implication that it’s a spectrum-wide problem .You know, both sides, same thing.

Get someone angry on Facebook, they rant on Facebook. This causes other people to comment on the rant and sometimes post their own rants on their own pages (i.e. MORE eyeballs for FB). Lather, rinse, repeat.

FB doesn’t care about keeping people safe. They care about making money. And anger translates to more page views for them.

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A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:22:37am

The Dystopian Hellscape of the Charmin Bears Commercials - Popdust

popdust.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:25:19am

re: #91 Citizen K

The fix is in. Rittenhouse is gonna walk, the judge is making it extremely clear.

If anything, he will just be fined for the gun charges. But his terrorist proud boy buddies will foot the bill for that. Such BS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:25:57am

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Pablo Escobar was just filling a market niche.

That he was, and had the government regulated it, the damage would have been considerably less, not to mention the millions in revenues…

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:27:39am

re: #94 GlutenFreeJesus

If anything, he will just be fined for the gun charges. But his terrorist proud boy buddies will foot the bill for that. Such BS.

And it sends such a lovely message of ‘protest for your rights, and it’s open season on your asses, and we’ll get away with it too!!’ Because they just straight up own the justice system apparently.

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A Cranky One  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:29:10am

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:32:08am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If people are dumb enough to use it as a news source, then the company is just filling a market niche…

When the news comes from NYTimes or the Atlantic or Washington Post, I will often read the article; other places not so much especially since many are behind a paywall and I’m not going to subscribe to another publication. As I’ve said before, it’s the content from IRL “friends” that is infuriating and they tend to regurgitate disinformation from cable “news” media or other web sites. As long as Faux News, Breitbart, etc can flourish without restriction, we are likely to end up in the same place.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:33:31am

re: #91 Citizen K

The fix is in. Rittenhouse is gonna walk, the judge is making it extremely clear.

So much for that “Equal Justice Under Law” shit…

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Mike Lamb  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:33:44am

re: #91 Citizen K

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The fix is in. Rittenhouse is gonna walk, the judge is making it extremely clear.

Wait…what the fuck?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:34:05am

re: #99 JOE 🥓

So much for that “Equal Justice Under Law” shit…

It never existed to begin with. Since the first whites landed in America, they have tilted the system to their favor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:35:32am

re: #98 Hecuba’s daughter

We need to teach our schoolchildren Modern Media as a subject: how to approach information from various sources and how to assess their point of view and their veracity.

Then there are those people who grew up under regimes where they simply distrust any “official” source, I have seen this among people from Eastern Europe, China, South Africa, etc.

They are much more open to “independent” sources, even if these sources are secretly (or even openly) in the pocket of moneyed interests.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:36:04am

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

It never existed to begin with. Since the first whites landed in America, they have tilted the system to their favor.

“Equal Ju$ti¢e Under Law”…

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:38:40am

re: #103 JOE 🥓

“Equal Ju$ti¢e Under Law”…

And this is the direction they’re planning on going with it:

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:42:45am

re: #104 Dopamine Fish

And this is the direction they’re planning on going with it:

Once again I ask where the hell is Garland?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:42:54am

re: #91 Citizen K

The fix is in. Rittenhouse is gonna walk, the judge is making it extremely clear.

And when the vigilantes come for him, he will be elevated to martyr for the cause of White Rights

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:44:02am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And when the vigilantes come for him, he will be elevated to martyr for the cause of White Rights

Just wait…give that punk a couple years and he’ll be elected to Congress.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:44:30am

re: #107 JOE 🥓

Just wait…give that punk a couple years and he’ll be elected to Congress.

His career is already made…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:44:55am

UK Humanists get Fry to narrate this new short. However, in light of our reality here in the US I find such efforts… naive:

How do we know what’s true? | Narrated by Stephen Fry | #thatshumanism

..

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:45:30am

re: #107 JOE 🥓

Just wait…give that punk a couple years and he’ll be elected to Congress.

Naaah. He’ll be like George Zimmermann.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:46:15am

re: #109 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

UK Humanists get Fry to narrate this new short. However, in light of our reality here in the US I find such efforts… naive:

I seem to recall that “secular humanism” was one of the Religious Right’s major bugaboos back in the 80’s…

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plansbandc  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:46:21am

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

We grew rhubarb. Mom would make rhubarb pie and rhubarb sauce. Tart and delicious. Adding strawberries to the pie cuts the tartness and the two flavor meld nicely.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:46:35am

re: #110 Belafon

Navaho. He’ll be like George Zimmermann.

I’m old enough to know that he may get away with it this time, but he will not learn and make another stupid mistake.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:47:58am

I’d prefer that the term used was “real” and not “true”.

I’m afraid the UK Humanists have painted themselves into a philosophical corner that savvy philosopher-types will pick apart rather easily.

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There’s always a boogeyman. Humanism is generally thought to be the opposite of traditional theism.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:48:01am

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:48:54am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I seem to recall that “secular humanism” was one of the Religious Right’s major bugaboos back in the 80’s…

Oh that started in the late 60s from the Birchers and sure enough the Religious Right picked that shit up as it infected churches in the 70s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:51:54am

re: #116 JOE 🥓

Oh that started in the late 60s from the Birchers and sure enough the Religious Right picked that shit up as it infected churches in the 70s.

That was also when the Campus Crusaders for Christ were going through the residence halls presenting the “America is a Christian nation” argument.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:52:14am

God damn, Wisconsin is such a shithole.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:52:51am

Latest from Rolling Stone

They Joined an Anti-Government Militia — With Their Government Emails

Rolling Stone identified nearly 40 Oath Keeper memberships linked to public-sector work credentials, including domains like nasa.gov

But a review by Rolling Stone identified nearly 40 memberships linked to public-sector work emails, from domains like nasa.gov, dmv.virginia.gov, and city.pittsburgh.pa.us. Rolling Stone then matched these individuals to public-source information — from LinkedIn accounts, government websites, public salary databases, etc. — to compile a list of everyday Americans who appear to have been dues paying members of the notorious right-wing organization.

Think of them as the Oath Keepers next door. Their ranks include more than a handful of law enforcement officers. But, in full, they cut across a broader cross section of society, including employees of the Treasury Department, Los Alamos National Laboratory, the Veterans Administration, as well as local government workers ranging from fire fighters to auto mechanics to public school employees.

rollingstone.com

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:53:26am

re: #99 JOE 🥓

So much for that “Equal Justice Under Law” shit…

Equally “Just Us” Under the Law

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:53:47am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was also when the Campus Crusaders for Christ were going through the residence halls presenting the “America is a Christian nation” argument.

And the KKKampus KKKrusade for KKKrist reserved every meeting room at Pitt to push their shit when I was an undergrad in the 70s.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:55:31am

re: #105 JOE 🥓

Once again I ask where the hell is Garland?

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:56:55am

I know a half dozen guys pulling multiple government checks and every last one of them hates the government.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 8:58:15am

re: #121 JOE 🥓

And the KKKampus KKKrusade for KKKrist reserved every meeting room at Pitt to push their shit when I was an undergrad in the 70s.

They did a lot to put me off Christianity. That and my Catholic upbringing. Was not until much later that I met some quiet, unassuming, sincere Christians who did not preach but simply lived their faith.

Not enough to convert me, but enough to show me what Christianity can be when not practiced by sanctimonious hypocrites.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:00:08am

re: #118 Amory Blaine

God damn, Wisconsin is such a shithole.

The impenetrable state-level bulwark, looking to only get worse to the point of pre-installed supermajority, will likely keep it that way for a long time coming. Statewide Wisconsin offices are still in reach, but the GOP basically will have a fully own fiefdom there otherwise for a generation and a half, minimum.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:00:11am

re: #56 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Good morning!
That. Looks. GOOD.
Under the egg I see potatoes, onions, and… bacon?

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:01:21am

re: #123 Amory Blaine

I know a half dozen guys pulling multiple government checks and every last one of them hates the government.

Oh I got a lot of coworkers in my office who truly hate Biden with a passion. And these were the same folks who would line up to kiss Trump’s ass.

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JC1  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:13:57am

re: #91 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

The fix is in. Rittenhouse is gonna walk, the judge is making it extremely clear.

It’s not actually as bad as the headline.
“…The judge said those terms would be allowed if the defense can produce evidence showing that’s what they were.”

apnews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:15:51am

re: #128 JC1

It’s not actually as bad as the headline.
“…The judge said those terms would be allowed if the defense can produce evidence showing that’s what they were.”

apnews.com

Unless Rittenhouse can produce evidence that the people he shot presented a threat to his life that justified self-defense, then they are most certainly victims

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:19:06am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And when the vigilantes come for him, he will be elevated to martyr for the cause of White Rights

Iirc, the Rittenhouse enablers have made a big deal out of one of the victims being a sex offender, even though the punk would have had no way of knowing this. If the situation were reversed, however, if vigilantes murdered a pedophile preacher, they would be outraged, delivering pious speeches about rule of law and forgiveness and other principles they apply so selectively.
I think they latched onto this because a threat to income producing property is every bit as outrageous for the gentry as a threat to children. It is no accident that health care quack and GOP mega-donor Steve Hoetze names “our businesses” along with “our families” and “our children” as potential victims of rioting BLM mobs. Public property, other private property, and even other potentially innocent victims are excluded, but “our businesses” are specifically named.
This helps illustrate where their true vulnerability lies. I do not recommend sending mobs armed with Molotov cocktails after, for example, their fitness centers, MLM warehouses, and franchise money laundering operations. That would be playing into their hands since those properties are the #1 priority for what they allege to be their effort at self defense. There are other ways though.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:20:43am

re: #128 JC1

Has he ruled out referring to the victims as “the person shot?”

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JC1  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:20:45am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless Rittenhouse can produce evidence that the people he shot presented a threat to his life that justified self-defense, then they are most certainly victims

The quote from the judge is about defense using the terms looters and rioters. The prosecution can’t use the term victims. I think that that’s fairly standard, though IANAL.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:20:53am

In a column for the Sacramento Bee, impeachment adviser Norm Eisen and former federal prosecutor Dennis Aftregut made a case for the California Bar to investigate and possibly disbar the attorney behind the so-called “coup memo” intended to subvert the 2020 presidential election results.

sacbee.com

That’s not enough. Arrest Eastman and charge him with sedition!

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:21:57am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:22:38am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:23:07am

re: #127 JOE 🥓

Oh I got a lot of coworkers in my office who truly hate Biden with a passion. And these were the same folks who would line up to kiss Trump’s ass.

It works the other way round too. I know armed security guards who hate their employers’ fatcat clients with the heat of the sun. I would not be surprised to see a lot of them switch sides when the chips were down.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:23:31am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That he was, and had the government regulated it, the damage would have been considerably less, not to mention the millions in revenues…

I don’t know about that. The pharmaceutical market is heavily regulated yet the Sackler family was able to unleash an opioid epidemic on this nation, kill tens of thousands of Americans, and walk away with billions with no real accountability.

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:24:10am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:32:51am

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:37:39am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

First of all, that applies to almost any medium (my mom insisted that the only reason she read the National Enquirer was so that she would know what the other ladies at the hairdresser’s were talking about).

I recall some years ago seeing a headline on my ex-GF’s FB thread: “Great Barrier Reef Declared Dead”.

Even a cursory reading of the article indicated that the GBR was far from dead, but that began to make me aware of what a fucking useless source of information FB was.

In the spirit of Godwin’s Law, I propose the following Law of the Waffle Light:

“In any discussion of Facebook on LGF, the probability of Wendell invoking the GREAT BARRIER REEF DEAD hoax rises to 100%.”

As a corollary: The likelihood of my pointing out Wendell does this is significantly less, but not nonexistent.

We all have patterns of behavior we reflexively fall into, almost as if scripted. Bad actors at Facebook, Cambridge Analytica, various media and advertising agencies have learned to weaponize and exploit this tendency against us for their benefit through their various algorithms.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:38:07am

Facebook routinely makes exceptions for powerful actors when enforcing content policy, data scientist at the company wrote in a December 2020 presentation.

Facebook staff complained for years about their lobbyists’ power (Politico)

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:43:38am

Truth.

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:44:55am

re: #85 A Mom Anon

Since people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccines and they can’t get enough people to believe that shit, their new tactic is to say within 5 to 15 yrs the only people left alive will be the ones who didn’t get vaccinated. And we will be bleeding out of our eyes, our insides will liquify, etc. Their lies only work on a limited number of people so they gotta change their stories.

I may, in fact, be dead within 5-15 years, cut down before my statistical lifespan is expected to run out. The cause will not be anti-Covid vaccines or their boosters.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:45:27am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:47:19am

It must be Tuesday in ‘Murica

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:47:44am

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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There’s a Dungeons and Dragons version of this that ends, “Charisma is being able to sell a tomato-based fruit salad.” And the response is, “Hey, isn’t a tomato-based fruit salad a salsa?” followed by another poster saying, “Hey guys, I found the bard!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:48:22am

re: #104 Dopamine Fish

And this is the direction they’re planning on going with it:

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For years, gun fanatics have been advising us that if the Jews had been armed in Germany, the Holocaust would never have happened. Au contraire: the Hitler government would have used that violence as a pretext to justify their crimes against the Jewish people whom they would classify as dangerous revolutionaries — as the ISIS of their day, and the rest of the world would have allowed it to proceed in silence.

5 months into the Trump administration, James Hodgkinson, the Bernie fanatic, recognized its danger and tried to use violence against legislators who supported it; the result was a setback to those who opposed the fascism slowly descending on this nation. We have to see if somehow the forces of civilization, law, and justice can ultimately succeed in squelching this evil before it becomes unstoppable.

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darthstar  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:50:20am

re: #91 Citizen K

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The fix is in. Rittenhouse is gonna walk, the judge is making it extremely clear.

The prosecution should use dripping sarcasm when they refer to the victims as ‘rioters’ - including ‘air quotes’ - The first “rioter” Kyle shot from a distance had no criminal background and was pursuing a degree in ____ while also serving his community in the following ways…

Watch his defense object and say, “They’re making the VICTIMS out to be saints!”

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:52:37am
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Jay C  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:53:38am

re: #148 darthstar

The prosecution should use dripping sarcasm when they refer to the victims as ‘rioters’ - including ‘air quotes’ - The first “rioter” Kyle shot from a distance had no criminal background and was pursuing a degree in ____ while also serving his community in the following ways…

Watch his defense object and say, “They’re making the VICTIMS out to be saints!”

Well, at least they would be able to get the term “victims” in….

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:55:08am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 9:56:15am

re: #151 Belafon

“Hey, GOP caucus, does anybody fancy an all-expenses-paid vacation to the Canary Islands?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:01:12am

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

It must be Tuesday in ‘Murica

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It must be a day ending in “y” in America.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:10:24am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:19:35am

re: #154 jaunte

They have the 5 votes on the court to kill same sex marriage. It’s coming down the road after they kill Roe.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:20:46am
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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:21:21am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:21:24am

re: #154 jaunte

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:22:49am

re: #149 jaunte

We hit a half million dead on about 2/21/21, a month after Biden took office.

We’re at about 758 000 right now. As usual, the conservative math doesn’t work.

Also, the fact that so many people have died since Biden took office is more a sign of conservatives own stupidity than anything else. I bet if you look at the demographics of Covid deaths over the past six months or so, the vast majority are white conservatives. Just a hunch.

Also of note: We’re a few days out from hitting 5 Million officially reported Covid deaths worldwide.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:23:42am

re: #155 JOE 🥓

They have the 5 votes on the court to kill same sex marriage. It’s coming down the road after they kill Roe.

Sane Americans would never tolerate that. Killing Roe alone would be the end of any chance of Republicans clinging to power at the national level. Breaking up marriages would require that the court be neutralized. We would not tolerate it.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:24:46am

So if I am correct, congressional staff are paid by tax money. So even if, as Mo Brooks has claimed, he didn’t know about his staff meeting with the insurrectionists, said staff are breaking the law doing electoral stuff on our dime? Could we grab them then as conspirators and see if twisting their arms brings us a new set of evidence that it wasn’t just a few renegade staffers, but the congressman/woman themselves ordering them?

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:26:36am

re: #160 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Sane Americans would never tolerate that. Killing Roe alone would be the end of any chance of Republicans clinging to power at the national level. Breaking up marriages would require that the court be neutralized. We would not tolerate it.

Except we’re seeing just how many non-sane Americans we really do have, and how the power of their vote is magnified enormously at all levels to the point it really doesn’t matter how much we might actually outnumber them, they get to wield all the power and bludgeons they want, because it’s ‘their’ country. Now and forever.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:28:50am

Albama Governor Kay Ivey, who said that the unvaccinated are at blame for the continuing pandemic, has ordered the state to fight for their right to remain unvaccinated. news.yahoo.com

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:29:28am

re: #163 No Malarkey!

Albama Governor Kay Ivey, who said that the unvaccinated are at blame for the continuing pandemic, has ordered the state to fight for their right to remain unvaccinated. news.yahoo.com

“Y’all are the problem, but I support all y’all’s right to continue being the problem, because freedumb.” Ugh, the stupid, it burns.

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:31:31am

re: #163 No Malarkey!

Albama Governor Kay Ivey, who said that the unvaccinated are at blame for the continuing pandemic, has ordered the state to fight for their right to remain unvaccinated. news.yahoo.com

But hey, she saved the state from the vicious scourge of CRT!

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:38:17am
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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:41:20am

Youngkin 2021: Black people are scary.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:47:08am

re: #154 jaunte

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:47:51am

re: #155 JOE 🥓

They have the 5 votes on the court to kill same sex marriage. It’s coming down the road after they kill Roe.

Biden will soon regret not immediately packing the Supreme Court when he first took office. …or at least making a formal effort to.

At this point it seems a lot of political inertia is needed to get such an effort underway and the right wing 40-year long term planning and execution is paying off as we speak.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:49:36am

re: #169 Florida Panhandler

Biden will soon regret not immediately packing the Supreme Court when he first took office. …or at least making a formal effort to.

At this point it seems a lot of political inertia is needed to get such an effort underway and the right wing 40-year long term planning and execution is paying off as we speak.

He cannot pack the court unless Congress expands it first.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:50:57am

New addition!

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:51:44am

re: #169 Florida Panhandler

Biden will soon regret not immediately packing the Supreme Court when he first took office. …or at least making a formal effort to.

At this point it seems a lot of political inertia is needed to get such an effort underway and the right wing 40-year long term planning and execution is paying off as we speak.

I mean…here’s the problem still: How?

How would he be able to ‘pack the Supreme Court’ when we can’t even hold our caucus in the Senate together for far more mundane votes that include simply not defaulting on our fucking debt? Same with changing the filibuster, the ‘nuclear option’ still requiring a majority vote that we barely have on paper, and most certainly don’t have in practice at this point.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:33:07am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

Youngkin 2021: Black people are scary.

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That book won a Pulitzer.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:47:10am

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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jeffreyw  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:59:59am

re: #126 (((Archangel1)))

Good morning!
That. Looks. GOOD.
Under the egg I see potatoes, onions, and… bacon?

pastrami


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