Some More News: Havana Syndrome, Weed Candy, and More Spooky Stories to Not Be Afraid Of

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0:00 - Intro
0:42 - Halloweed Kills
9:12 - Cops and Fentanyl
19:57 - Socialist Microwave Lasers
29:21 - The Great White Nope
33:29 - Secession
38:43 - A.I. Is Going To Kill Us All

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:50:02am

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:52:32am

Sickening.

How Did No One See Kids Left Alone With Brother’s Skeleton in Houston House of Horrors?

As Houston police investigate the house of horrors where three children and a skeleton of a fourth were abandoned found in “deplorable” conditions, one thing is becoming clear: Warning signs were missed.

The siblings, who range in age from 7 to 15, had not been enrolled in school since May 2020. A neighbor found the older boy sleeping in a playground. Another neighbor complained about the persistent foul odor coming from the apartment.

thedailybeast.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:52:56am

Last string. Important news, though, so I thought I should bring it up.
New addition!

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Citizen K  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:55:51am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 26, 2021 • 10:57:44am

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Last string. Important news, though, so I thought I should bring it up.
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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:00:17am

re: #2 JOE 🥓

“Police located the boys’ mother and her boyfriend and questioned the pair, but then released them.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:06:10am

Horrifying thread.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:06:58am

re: #4 Citizen K

“Okay, y’all. How many code words for ‘Black people’ can we come up with?”

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:08:16am

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Last string. Important news, though, so I thought I should bring it up.
New addition!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:10:35am

For fuck sakes. I read “The Bluest Eye” when I was in tenth grade. There are some sections that are very graphic and not an easy read, but I was plenty able to understand and absorb what I was reading and it didn’t cause me any problems.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:16:34am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

“Okay, y’all. How many code words for ‘Black people’ can we come up with?”

“…And president of
The United States of Love”

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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:17:05am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

“Okay, y’all. How many code words for ‘Black people’ can we come up with?”

They will ALWAYS come up with more.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:22:04am
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:25:43am

The problem with having read so much in the internet is when you need to find it again. Does anyone have the image of the newspaper article about how your religious exemption means that you should get the vaccine to take care of your neighbors?

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:28:45am
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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:32:47am

They’re putting fentanyl in cocaine now.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:34:12am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:37:54am

This is a take I actually kind of wondered about. The only problem is, shouldn’t that then apply to the defense’s characterizations of the alleged victims as “rioters” and “looters”? Were the people he allegedly shot convicted of those crimes? If not, then okay, let’s be fair to both sides - NEITHER set of terms should be able to be applied.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:39:17am

re: #16 Amory Blaine

They’re putting fentanyl in cocaine now.

Which doesn’t make any sense at all, since killing your customers is terrible for repeat business.

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sagehen  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:42:20am

re: #18 Dopamine Fish

This is a take I actually kind of wondered about. The only problem is, shouldn’t that then apply to the defense’s characterizations of the alleged victims as “rioters” and “looters”? Were the people he allegedly shot convicted of those crimes? If not, then okay, let’s be fair to both sides - NEITHER set of terms should be able to be applied.

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This take is inaccurate. Victim means someone who has been harmed, even if it isn’t yet adjudicated who harmed them. A dead body with bullet holes in it is ALWAYS a victim, even before any suspects have been identified or defendants brought into a courtroom.

ETA: “So Briscoe, what do we know about the vic?”

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:42:36am

re: #4 Citizen K

The defense can also call the victims and protesters “rioters and looters.”

In a normal world, this would be grounds for a mistrial.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:44:25am

re: #18 Dopamine Fish

This is a take I actually kind of wondered about. The only problem is, shouldn’t that then apply to the defense’s characterizations of the alleged victims as “rioters” and “looters”? Were the people he allegedly shot convicted of those crimes? If not, then okay, let’s be fair to both sides - NEITHER set of terms should be able to be applied.

You clearly don’t understand white privilege. //

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Amory Blaine  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:44:45am

Finally ending another double shift. Brutal.

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steve_davis  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:45:59am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

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For fuck sakes. I read “The Bluest Eye” when I was in tenth grade. There are some sections that are very graphic and not an easy read, but I was plenty able to understand and absorb what I was reading and it didn’t cause me any problems.

fuck’s sake. carry on :-)

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:49:22am
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JOE 🥓  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:49:29am

re: #24 steve_davis

Memories of the local school BORED banning any books Kurt Vonnegut wrote. They were offended by “Breakfast of Champions”. Didn’t stop me from getting my hands on it the minute it was stocked in Waldenbooks (Remember them????).

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:50:29am

Since this extremely unstable guy wasn’t already in a cell, I guess previous tenants did not complain about anything, ever.

A landlord in Kansas City, Missouri has been accused of stabbing a tenant more than 30 times after he was alerted to heat problems by a couple who had asked if they could use a space heater to warm their chilly new rental.

Gordon McBeth, 44, entered a not guilty plea on Monday after Clay County prosecutors charged him with second-degree murder and armed criminal action in the death of 28-year-old Darryl Gilland on Friday afternoon.

According to court documents obtained by the Kansas City Star, McBeth allegedly stabbed Gilland more than 30 times on Friday after Gilland’s girlfriend messaged the landlord alerting him that the heat wasn’t working in their new home.

Samantha Pohlman said that she and Gilland, her boyfriend of five years, had only

New Tenant Killed by Landlord for Complaining About Heating, Cops Say (The Daily Beast)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:52:13am
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sagehen  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:52:42am

When I was in junior high, I wanted to read all the books the newspaper said were controversial, everything somebody was complaining about. The librarian (not the school library; actual city library) tried to tell me I wasn’t old enough and wouldn’t let me check them out. Mom had to go down there and give them, In writing, her permission for me to read anything in the building.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:53:06am

Ran across this today on Ebay, a plastic model Koala from 1959. It is 1:1 scale. Revell normally made planes, cars and ships. I had never heard of these critter models and don’t remember seeing them when I was a kid. Bids start at $99.99 so it’s apparently fairly rare.
Is it just me or does Teddy’s expression seem a little too human and maybe a touch creepy?

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:53:17am

re: #17 Patricia Kayden

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pretty soon, the two currently known only as “rally organizer” and “rally planner” (to protect their id’s) will publicly testify

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:54:40am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

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For fuck sakes. I read “The Bluest Eye” when I was in tenth grade. There are some sections that are very graphic and not an easy read, but I was plenty able to understand and absorb what I was reading and it didn’t cause me any problems.

I think military service is out for this kid, too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:54:52am

re: #14 Belafon

The problem with having read so much in the internet is when you need to find it again. Does anyone have the image of the newspaper article about how your religious exemption means that you should get the vaccine to take care of your neighbors?

Looking for this?

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:57:16am

The vast majority of GOP officeholders will pick party over country every single time, without question. The ones who won’t become ex-officeholders pretty quickly.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 11:58:07am

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

Thanks.

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:00:08pm
“Dr. Deborah Birx, who helped run the coronavirus pandemic response for former President Donald Trump, told congressional investigators earlier this month that Mr. Trump’s White House failed to take steps that could have prevented tens of thousands of deaths,” the New York Times reports.

Said Birx: “I believe if we had fully implemented the mask mandates, the reduction in indoor dining, the getting friends and family to understand the risk of gathering in private homes, and we had increased testing, that we probably could have decreased fatalities into the 30 percent less to 40 percent less range.”

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:05:50pm

re: #36 Dangerman

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If TFG had just sat back and followed the advice of the experts, he would’ve been reelected and hailed as a savior. But being a grifter, he always has to look for an opportunity to run a con.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:13:48pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

Pastor Keith Marshall is right, as far as that goes. Unfortunately as we’ve seen, when the text doesn’t support right wing radicals’ inclinations, they change or ignore it.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:14:47pm

re: #36 Dangerman

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Fuck her. If she was that concerned she could have resigned in protest at best. At worst, she could have vocally and firmly corrected TFG when he started spouting off B.S. She did neither. Dr. Fauci at least tried to push back against his lunatic ravings whenever he could.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:17:05pm
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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:18:03pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:19:41pm

re: #37 No Malarkey!

If TFG had just sat back and followed the advice of the experts, he would’ve been reelected and hailed as a savior. But being a grifter, he always has to look for an opportunity to run a con.

And he would never have attempted a coup, so he’d just be a crime President that pandered to bigots rather than clearly a seditious enemy of our democracy. A lot of people had to die to make it absolutely clear what the loser is.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:20:48pm

re: #36 Dangerman

Good afternoon.

How crazy is it that the Rush movie crew crewmembers took the “prop” guns off set to a range or open area and shot live rounds for “target practice”? (TMZ)

Related in the saddest way possible the words of Dr Birx tell the same story. (As above)

Lives came last.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:22:25pm

re: #42 Punish Domestic Terrorists

And he would never have attempted a coup, so he’d just be a crime President that pandered to bigots rather than clearly a seditious enemy of our democracy. A lot of people had to die to make it absolutely clear what the loser is.

He would’ve never attempted a coup yet. If he had been reelected last year, he would be looking for some way to stay in power in 2024, perhaps by elevating one of his kids to the presidency.

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:22:31pm

re: #39 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Fuck her. If she was that concerned she could have resigned in protest at best. At worst, she could have vocally and firmly corrected TFG when he started spouting off B.S. She did neither. Dr. Fauci at least tried to push back against his lunatic ravings whenever he could.

that was my point 100% enabler / complicit

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:23:05pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:25:34pm

re: #43 Rightwingconspirator

Good afternoon.

How crazy is it that the Rush movie crew crewmembers took the “prop” guns off set to a range or open area and shot live rounds for “target practice”? (TMZ)

Related in the saddest way possible the words of Dr Birx tell the same story. (As above)

Lives came last.

All the way crazy. They couldn’t keep themselves from putting live rounds in prop guns, and just fucked around like nothing matters. Anyone who knew about this is responsible for a woman’s death, and all the right-wing authoritarian excitement at that death.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:26:45pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:33:16pm

re: #37 No Malarkey!

If TFG had just sat back and followed the advice of the experts, he would’ve been reelected and hailed as a savior. But being a grifter, he always has to look for an opportunity to run a con.

If TFG had just sat back and followed the advice of the experts, the same coalition of women, minorities… really everyone except white collar white men, that came out in 2018 would have come out in alternate universe in 2020, as we did in real 2020, to defeat him.

Prove me wrong.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:34:29pm
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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:35:32pm

re: #46 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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”they knew where they signed up” //

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b.d. (The war is over)  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:36:48pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

We kind of, uh, lived through it.

Some of us lived through it, not enough of us though….

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:37:50pm
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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:44:32pm
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) told Real America’s Voice the Capitol riots on January 6 seeking to overturn the election are what America was founded upon.

Said Greene: “If you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants.”

She added: “So there’s a clear difference between January 6th and the Marxist-communist revolution that antifa, BLM, Democrat ground troops waged on the American people in 2020.”

this loon is certifiable

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:45:24pm

re: #54 Dangerman

this loon is certifiable

And digging her own grave.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:45:38pm

re: #51 Dangerman

”they knew where they signed up” //

I’m sure they thought going to a fake university was a good idea after being abused and stunted by Conservative parents who taught them to be afraid of sensible people.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:47:36pm

re: #54 Dangerman

this loon is certifiable

She’s a lying fascist. When people derp about communists and Marxists, they’re telling us that they’re keen for fascism and lie constantly.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:53:41pm

re: #49 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

If TFG had just sat back and followed the advice of the experts, the same coalition of women, minorities… really everyone except white collar white men, that came out in 2018 would have come out in alternate universe in 2020, as we did in real 2020, to defeat him.

Prove me wrong.

I obviously can’t prove it. But Trump lost the electoral college by only about 40k votes, and if he had just let Fauci run the response, resulting in a dramatically lower death rate, the mainstream media would’ve drooled over TFG as a great, life saving hero, and I think would’ve peeled off enough swing votes to win the electoral college.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 12:55:26pm

re: #58 No Malarkey!

I obviously can’t prove it. But Trump lost the electoral college by only about 40k votes, and if he had just let Fauci run the response, resulting in a dramatically lower death rate, the mainstream media would’ve drooled over TFG as a great, life saving hero, and I think would’ve peeled off enough swing votes to win the electoral college.

If not for the Pandemic, he would have won, at least the EC.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:00:04pm

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If not for the Pandemic, he would have won, at least the EC.

And the EC is what matters. with only 43k more votes in Az, Ga and Wi, he would’ve tied Biden in the EC, and the House would’ve reelected him President, no matter how large a popular vote margin Biden had.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:02:03pm

re: #58 No Malarkey!

I obviously can’t prove it. But Trump lost the electoral college by only about 40k votes, and if he had just let Fauci run the response, resulting in a dramatically lower death rate, the mainstream media would’ve drooled over TFG as a great, life saving hero, and I think would’ve peeled off enough swing votes to win the electoral college.

The burden of proof is obviously on the person who asserted that we would have still defeated the madman if he hadn’t refused to do his job.

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gocart mozart  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:02:39pm
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sagehen  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:06:20pm

Let some air out of the tires, the truck will sit lower and it will fit.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:07:26pm

re: #54 Dangerman

this loon is certifiable

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:08:17pm

re: #63 sagehen

Let some air out of the tires, the truck will sit lower and it will fit.

Sure, but why not try the same thing over and over as you destroy the place instead?

If they were moving in, I hope they were told that they were no longer welcome after that stupidity. Stupid people are an ongoing liability to everyone around them.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:09:25pm

re: #61 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The burden of proof is obviously on the person who asserted that we would have still defeated the madman if he hadn’t refused to do his job.

This isn’t a court, its an opinion board, so I don’t have to prove anything; its just my opinion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:09:43pm

re: #60 No Malarkey!

And the EC is what matters. with only 43k more votes in Az, Ga and Wi, he would’ve tied Biden in the EC, and the House would’ve reelected him President, no matter how large a popular vote margin Biden had.

It scares me what a close-run thing that election was despite the record turnout in favor of Biden, and that is what encourages the GOP for 2024

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:09:59pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

Two dimensional thinking.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:10:09pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

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U-HELL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:12:43pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

We had a similar incident with a rental van: we drove into a parking garage with three people in the van, it fit under the clearance bar so we did not worry. But one of the people in the van got out at the larking garage and was not in it when we left and we scraped ceiling all the way out…

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steve_davis  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:13:36pm

funny thing, that. After a couple months playing the hell out of the Epiphone Les Paul with the 8’s on it, I put 10’s on it because I was having intonation issues with the first string and thought what the hell, maybe just put the recommended string gauge back on it. Yep, the intonation improved and my now-calloused left finger tips have no problem pushing up those big bends.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:19:06pm

re: #71 steve_davis

funny thing, that. After a couple months playing the hell out of the Epiphone Les Paul with the 8’s on it, I put 10’s on it because I was having intonation issues with the first string and thought what the hell, maybe just put the recommended string gauge back on it. Yep, the intonation improved and my now-calloused left finger tips have no problem pushing up those big bends.

So you had an Epiphony?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:19:13pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:22:42pm
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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:23:31pm

Charlie Kirk: “We ARE living under fascism.”

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:24:05pm

And yet somehow he is walking around loose.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:24:32pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

These may be the two stupidest people in existence.

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Teukka  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:25:56pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:26:02pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

These may be the two stupidest people in existence.

For a second I thought you were referring to Charlie Kirk and Don Jr.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:26:20pm

re: #63 sagehen

Let some air out of the tires, the truck will sit lower and it will fit.

Or they could let the water fill it up.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:26:31pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

The fact that open sedition along with unrepentant plans for violence from right wing media, police, and Republican politicians and nothing is being done about it in any consistent or effective way indicates the direction we are headed.

I hope currently sleepwalking minorities, gays, women and open liberals in this country are prepared for what happens next during a fascist takeover.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:28:32pm
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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:31:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:31:18pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:32:21pm

re: #81 Florida Panhandler

The fact that open sedition along with unrepentant plans for violence from right wing media, police, and Republican politicians and nothing is being done about it in any consistent or effective way indicates the direction we are headed.

I hope currently sleepwalking minorities, gays, women and open liberals in this country are prepared for what happens next during a fascist takeover.

Wife started her shift at the voter registration table in the projects exactly 2 minutes ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:32:54pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:33:17pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

5 months into the Trump administration, James Hodgkinson, the Bernie fanatic, recognized its danger and tried to use violence against legislators who supported it; the result was a setback to those who opposed the fascism slowly descending on this nation. We have to see if somehow the forces of civilization, law, and justice can ultimately succeed in squelching this evil before it becomes unstoppable.

You’re overstating harm and shifting blame while the actual fascism just keeps getting bigger and the institutions can’t address it because the center refuses to acknowledge it’s fascism. Not only is this a canard, it’s literally the same canard from Weimar Germany: if only the left did nothing offensive then the far right wouldn’t be dangerous.

Kaiserreich Germany bet on magic beans, did some no-no war crimes to white people, and ended up being given surrender terms dictated by the country they went out of their way to fuck up the hardest. Having found out after the fucking around, they doubled down on magic beans and further invested antisemitic magic beans because that allowed them to feel self-pity and revanchism at the same time. The people with money and power who probably knew better convinced themselves that they should bet on further magic beans—Adolf Fucking Hitler—because the alternative was to be less rich and powerful. Assembled together all this magical thinking and refusal to own your shit turned into a death cult led by shit-filled needle jockey with nonce tendencies who concluded his reign trying to arrange the mass destruction of his own side because he was the most committed to magic beans of all.

The current far right is at magic beans o’clock. They’re not fucking raring for an auto-de-fe because they haven’t been appeased correctly, or because they’re comic book evil, but because they’re either sad grey people who don’t want to admit the shit they believed in didn’t work and it’s more fun to hate everyone else than it is to admit you’re not important, or they’re people that have convinced themselves they earned all that shit they stole and the people they fuck over and control deserve it because they have less magic beans. Communism, Drugs, Terror—the global scale fucking around has produced a lot of finding out, and it’s now their duty to deny that anything they did or supported created the consequences we’re all facing. They even found their own nonce-adjacent shit-filled pill head to raise the standard of Magic Beans over the nation.

One leftist took a shot at some politicians…and nothing in American politics changed because the system was already broken and the far right had already built the basis of its eliminationist plans. In the larger “optics” of national discourse it had very little impact because by the time it happened it had already been established within conservative culture that we’re all bloodthirsty maniac communards that are also soft weak oversensitive cowards.

Our institutions are consistently failing to save us…or even prop up their own infrastructure of enforcement…and have been for decades. “The center” has tried respectability politics and it doesn’t have any impact on the long-term descent of the right because they operate inside a bubble of unreality built by very rich authoritarians who basically have milieu control. Joe Biden’s opponent was literally a gibbering maniac, and half of the institution of American political life is now desperate to get in on that gibbering maniac’s policy positions and broader worldview because the alternative is slightly less impunity.

Another notable sliver—which includes a considerable number of Democrats—are willing to shiv legislation that would make things better generally and advance the objectives of the president because they take donations from corporate entities that don’t want regulation or labor rights or to be held to any standard at all…because a more fair world is a world where money gives you less impunity.

Meeting the demand for disavowals of those that speak too frankly, or get out in the street and fuck shit up, has produced no productive results because neither the rightists (mostly operating in bad faith) nor the “center” (50/50 on bad versus good faith) that demand these disavowals want to engage in a dialogue in which vehement speech, protests, and even riots are the end-processes when democracy inadequately addresses the needs of its constituents.

The refusal to acknowledge a problem, followed by shock and resentment that the unaddressed problem produces un-decorous behavior relative to posh norms, is a thing that just keeps happening. AIDS; Police brutality in the 90s; Various addiction epidemics; Health crises relating to failing infrastructure pollution; real problems that went unaddressed, got louder, and were subject to finger-waving about how to properly address the throne just keep recurring. If you’re asking for things to materially be just, you’re told you’re an asshole and assholes don’t get money.

There is an equally deep stratigraphy of unreal panics, also characterized by agitation and unreasonableness, that get attention and care far beyond their urgency. The Cold War, the War on Drugs, and the War on Terror are all expensive boondoggles that were and still are given performative levels of care and umbrage while producing few positive outcomes for most people…but a fucking ton of money and power routed to a few individuals and institutions. But moral panics is general are hustles…unrealities that define interpretation of reality in ways that direct time, attention and care…and give lots of money to cops, priests, conmen, and defense contractors.

“the forces of civilization, justice, and law” have consistently failed since Bill Clinton tried to be the farthest right Democrat on paper—that there is a middle position that Republicans will accept even as their entire enclosed culture announces that they will accept nothing. Respectability and honor haven’t worked since Newt Gingrich was on his first wife: Republicans have rejected their own policies…like Obamacare…because their support is not rooted in material reality that they wish to alter with policy, but in a cultural assertion that liberals and leftists are a different and inferior kind of person that merits no franchise.

The norms that everyone keeps invoking have been broken for thirty years minimum. This is not a marriage that’s suddenly gone bad, it’s one that’s been terrible for years as everyone pretends that things are normal. The actual norm of American politics is now the ratchet in which the reactionary party creates rhetoric to justify their abuse of power while “reasonable” people parse their entirely guileless statements into something nuanced and “unreasonable” people left of center are treated as alarmists and fools.

The people that won the tone arguments…particularly between 2001 and 2003…turned out to be monsters of banality that we are all spattered with the gory excretions of. And I say that as a person who used to make tone arguments because I thought that some kind of appeasement was possible because we all were Americans and accepted the premise of civil liberties and humanist values…and have been stamped in the face with the fact that, no, the people that believe in nationalist magic beans won’t acknowledge that your facts or logic exist.

The loud assholes who sometimes said things that were a touch rude have a pretty good track record on identifying meat grinders compared to their critics that make tone and aesthetic arguments.

It’s also notable that people that make those tone arguments about issues raised by progressives pettifog the significance of the tone and decorum of reactionaries. Maybe somebody that perceives exposed tits and broken windows as more threatening that carrying fucking weapons and talking about extrajudicial executions is fundamentally unserious.

For years, gun fanatics have been advising us that if the Jews had been armed in Germany, the Holocaust would never have happened. Au contraire: the Hitler government would have used that violence as a pretext to justify their crimes against the Jewish people whom they would classify as dangerous revolutionaries — as the ISIS of their day, and the rest of the world would have allowed it to proceed in silence.

So—this is horseshit because the Hitler government did declare the Jewish people were dangerous revolutionaries…by presenting them as world-consuming money-wielding, war-sabotaging conspirators in the manner of the Protocols and the Dolstosslegende; but also as world-consuming communards bent on the destruction of society and normal order because they were all “Judeo-Bolsheviks”; and then again by assigning a collective guilt to all Jews for the accused crimes of specific Jews (be that criticism of Jewish store translating into street harassment of Jews, or Kristallnacht being a “protest” of the shooting of von Rohm). Like, that was the sole pretext of German national socialism: here’s the people making society bad, if we hurt those people society will be doubleplus good.

“If the Jews had guns no Shoah” is febrile Steven Seagal malarkey, but you interpretation is pure self-serving projection to the point that you missed that…

Fascism exists to allow people with power to get away with creating the problems of their society by grubbing up all the resources: at some point, that complete failure of the powerful to do anything but acquire more power becomes so blatant that the only solution is to create a bloody spectacle of scapegoating.

…and that the opponents of fascism were using the exact same strategies to justify killing both peaceful and violent resisters , because the entire point of colonialism is to steal shit from the colonized and then develop pretexts on why the murder, theft, and torture was actually the moral thing to do.

Colonialism and fascism are the same gun, fired inside and outside of the national domicile. The gun the US pointed at the world while doing “anti-Communism” (stealing shit from countries) and “anti-terrorism” (unsuccessfully stealing shit from countries) is the same one that’s been pointed at in-country minorities in the past (stealing their labor, their votes, their lives, their property) is now pointed at the center mass of the nation because the alternative is to acknowledge the scale, blatancy, and incompetent execution of the theft that has occurred.

Half the government is people who in bad or good faith assert that all problems are the product of Not Real Americans that have to be punished and disenfranchised, plus foreigners that need to be punished and subjugated. They’re doing this because they’re not going to give anything back, they’re not going to stop, and they’re not going to acknowledge that they fucked up and don’t know what they’re doing.

If you’re one of the Not Real Americans, the lesson you need to learn is that if you don’t do crimes, crimes will just be invented for you to be guilty of.

The people that want to do summary executions over broken windows and vague feelings of unease, but excuse their own very direct violence as Right and Correct (and Understandable and Nuanced if it’s really embarrassing or bloody) don’t actually need a real inciting event to do what they want to do. Once they feel safe, they’ll just invent the pretext they need, and after the fact make it true through repetition.

You know, that thing Hitler did to justify invading Eastern Europe.

This system isn’t failing because some guys did The Magic Wrong Thing, shit’s been falling apart for decades while “reasonable” people just pretended that insane, violating-the-premise-of-the-nation shit was permissible…mostly because that insane shit was targeted at foreigners and weirdos that the bland cultural base of the nation—white, straight, Christian, largely uninterested in the world because they grew up in a superpower—kind of agreed needed to prove they were Real Americans or Real Friends of America.

American fascism is big and threatening in proportion to the scale of the crimes that it’s covering up, and will probably escalate because there are ongoing crimes—literally killing the planet—that will need further scapegoats.This can not be stopped just by pointed to what institutions should do, or the norms that should be in place…because those institutions and norms were in place during the entire accretion process of cruelty and stealing shit that is the precursor to fascism’s “oops, now we have to cover our crimes.” American fascists want to fuck up their opponents like the USA fucks up its opponents: with flying bombs, black sites, and spraying .232. ammo about indiscriminately. The gun that was pointed at Iraq and Afghanistan (and Iran and Yemen and Syria and Somalia but not Saudi Arabia) is now pointed at California. American fascists want people to prove their lives to literally justify whether they live or not, which is the logical endpoint of a society that thinks that you only matter because of your value-creation utility such that to receive kindness or material help you have to prove the worth of your life.

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steve_davis  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:34:37pm

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So you had an Epiphony?

don’t you dare! any time you call an Epiphone an epiphoney, an angel has his wings pulled off by a sadistic little kid.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:44:30pm

re: #58 No Malarkey!

I obviously can’t prove it. But Trump lost the electoral college by only about 40k votes, and if he had just let Fauci run the response, resulting in a dramatically lower death rate, the mainstream media would’ve drooled over TFG as a great, life saving hero, and I think would’ve peeled off enough swing votes to win the electoral college.

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If not for the Pandemic, he would have won, at least the EC.

All contrary to fact conditions are true because their premises are false. You can no more prove this than I can. (Also, your “DT lets Fauci run things” scenario is about as likely as unicorns landing on the White House lawn.) Which is why I wist you would stop stating your opinion as fact.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:44:46pm

The art in this is great:

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:46:53pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Wife started her shift at the voter registration table in the projects exactly 2 minutes ago.

Voter registration is very good.

What is very bad are Republican election officials and those responsible for election certification by sending actual Electors being placed specifically in their jobs to hand the election over to whoever ends up winning the Republican nomination.

This is what is actually happening right now. “The fix is in” has never been so out in the open before. There is no need to even hide it when most of the Republican Party is for it.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:49:14pm

So, this exists. I wonder where these aliens breathe through that this wouldn’t be entirely fogged up.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:54:09pm

re: #92 Punish Domestic Terrorists

From the reviews:

fluffy v. :
No fog??? It’s looks like London fog it’s so incredibly foggy under this thing. It looks cool. Yes. But that’s all you’re getting here.

joanne k.
Fits well but fogs up when outdoors during bike ride.

William R.
My Cuz said I looked like a Garden Ball ornament.
shopzerouv.com

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:55:50pm

re: #61 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The burden of proof is obviously on the person who asserted that we would have still defeated the madman if he hadn’t refused to do his job.

You mean if he’d come in in 2017 and started acting like an actual president? None of this is subject to proof, but that sounds as far-fetched as anything that’s ever been posted here.

I repeat: ALL CONTRARY TO FACT CONDITIONS ARE TRUE BECAUSE THEIR PREMISE IS FALSE. So no-one has to prove anything, their statements and mine are equally valid (so is your “DT executes the office of President from day one” notion).

Which is kind of my point. Everyone should stop posting their fantasies as fact.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:58:20pm

We’re reaching the point where anti-vax loonies will only be killing themselves, babies, and toddlers. We should note every death of any child that they do manage to kill, and never let them forget.

A smaller dose of Pfizer-BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine cleared its first regulatory hurdle Tuesday for use in young children, after a Food and Drug Administration advisory committee voted to recommend it for emergency use authorization for those ages 5 to 11.

The 17-0 vote, with one abstention, will now go to the FDA, which is expected to make a final ruling in the coming days. If authorized, the move would make nearly the entire U.S. population eligible for a Covid shot. Only children ages 4 and younger would remain ineligible.

FDA advisory panel OKs Pfizer vaccine for kids 5 to 11 (NBC News)

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2021 • 1:58:42pm

re: #91 Florida Panhandler

Voter registration is very good.

What is very bad are Republican election officials and those responsible for election certification by sending actual Electors being placed specifically in their jobs to hand the election over to whoever ends up winning the Republican nomination.

This is what is actually happening right now. “The fix is in” has never been so out in the open before. There is no need to even hide it when most of the Republican Party is for it.

If we can’t get our people to show up at the polls, they sure as hell won’t show up for the counter-revolution.

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:02:17pm

re: #61 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The burden of proof is obviously on the person who asserted that we would have still defeated the madman if he hadn’t refused to do his job.

imo it would go from
- “he decisively shot himself in the foot leaving him no serious chance”
instead to
- “he would have had a more than credible decent chance”

* notwithstanding the closeness of the 40k odd votes

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:04:16pm

re: #63 sagehen

Let some air out of the tires, the truck will sit lower and it will fit.

back straight out never occurred to them?

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Dangerman  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:06:30pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

These may be the two stupidest people in existence.

there’s definitely a US Open contest going

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Decatur Deb  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:16:42pm

re: #99 Dangerman

there’s definitely a US Open contest going

My state reps have a real good chance in the regionals.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Oct 26, 2021 • 2:34:52pm

re: #81 Florida Panhandler

The fact that open sedition along with unrepentant plans for violence from right wing media, police, and Republican politicians and nothing is being done about it in any consistent or effective way indicates the direction we are headed.

I hope currently sleepwalking minorities, gays, women and open liberals in this country are prepared for what happens next during a fascist takeover.

It’s been what? 48 hours since Rolling Stone broke the story about the congressional conspirators. I say we give the DOJ at least until the weekend before we despair completely.

(No, I don’t think I know what has been going on inside the DOJ. But I expect there might be a long process putting together a case as complicated and politically fraught as this one.)

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 26, 2021 • 3:07:08pm

re: #87 The Ghost of a Flea

…Respectability and honor haven’t worked since Newt Gingrich was on his first wife: Republicans have rejected their own policies…like Obamacare…because their support is not rooted in material reality that they wish to alter with policy, but in a cultural assertion that liberals and leftists are a different and inferior kind of person that merits no franchise…

Would that I had more than 1 upding to give.


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