Cornish Hen (Ft. John Scofield & MonoNeon) | Scary Goldings

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John Scofield is, and has always been, a madman, and that’s all I have to say about this insane groove.

The Scary Goldings crew are BACK with an insane lineup featuring JOHN SCOFIELD and MONONEON

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Cornish Hen is an original song by Scary Goldings ft. John Scofield.

MUSICIAN CREDITS
Guitar: John Scofield
Drums: Lemar Carter
Bass: MonoNeon
Organ: Larry Goldings
Keys: Jack Conte
Guitar: Ryan Lerman

AUDIO CREDITS
Recording Engineer: Caleb Parker
Assistant Engineer: Franky Fox
Mix: Craig Polasko
Master: Eric Boulanger

VIDEO CREDITS
DP: Merlin Showalter
Editor: Adam Kritzberg

Recorded Live at Valentine Studios in Los Angeles, CA.

#ScaryGoldings #Funk #JohnScofield #MonoNeon #CornishHen #ScaryGoldingsIV

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495 comments
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No Malarkey!  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:04:51pm

Truer words were never written.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:05:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:06:59pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:08:31pm

And this is why Kevin McCarty is mad.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:11:37pm

McCarthy: “The government alone in full control of every education!!!”

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:12:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:15:55pm

re: #1 No Malarkey!

Cherie Jacobus blocked me years ago when I responded to something she posted, trying to warn her about what was coming, as I did a lot back in the day.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:17:50pm

In case you see a wingnut tweeting this photo & blaming Joe Biden, it is from western Canada, which is having some floods:

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:22:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:23:57pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:26:34pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:27:20pm
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mmmirele  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:27:47pm

The Josh Duggar child sexual abuse material (CSAM) trial is now within 2 weeks of its start date. This is a federal case. There was a hearing today on whether two witnesses would be admitted who would speak to Josh’s propensity to sexually molesting children. The judge took this under advisement and will hold a separate hearing on Monday, November 29. Jury selection in the trial is expected to start on Tuesday, November 30.

nwahomepage.com

This is a completely disgusting case and could have been avoided had Josh Duggar’s parents, Jim Bob and Michelle, turned him in for molesting four of his younger sisters back in the ’00s.

Oh yeah, Josh and his wife Anna (I am awful I wanted to call her Joshleen) named their most recent child (born late last month) Madyson Lily Duggar. Of all the “M” names to pick! Remember, Josh Duggar’s slide into irrelevance started when he was part of the Ashley *Madison* hack.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:28:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:29:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:31:13pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:32:15pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:33:43pm
Kevin McCarthy just slammed the child tax credit, saying the $300 per kid per month will worsen the labor shortage

Kevin McCarthy’s theory of labor relations is based on starving the desperate peasants.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:34:23pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:35:45pm

Why does McCarthy get to speak for like an hour?

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:36:38pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:37:12pm

re: #20 The Pie Overlord!

Why does McCarthy get to speak for like an hour?

Has to talk until he says something smart. Could take a while.

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plansbandc  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:38:30pm

Got pretty wiped out from the booster. Tired, achy, and slight fever. Pretty much slept all day.

Still, very happy to get it and the flu shot. A little pain is worth it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:39:15pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are soccer players that put less effort feigning injury than these people.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:41:49pm

re: #23 plansbandc

Getting my booster shot tomorrow. The guidance I got from CVS is to drink a lot of water one hour before the shot to lessen side effects.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:41:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:42:27pm
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Belafon  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:44:08pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if McCarthy will mention this:

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:44:14pm

re: #23 plansbandc

Got pretty wiped out from the booster. Tired, achy, and slight fever. Pretty much slept all day.

Still, very happy to get it and the flu shot. A little pain is worth it.

Got my Moderna booster early today. No side effects so far — especially given exhaustion is my normal state.

Re McCathy: Did the Democrats pull a similar stunt when the Republicans passed their tax cut for the rich? Other than delaying the vote and providing video snippets for Faux does this harangue accomplish anything worthwhile for the base, or is just something to extract more money from the rubes and the donors?

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:45:05pm

I could see Clancy Brown doing this role in the movie:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:45:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:48:01pm
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Belafon  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:50:03pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Democrat should motion that all filibusters should have to look like this one.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:52:00pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:52:19pm

Is McCarthy claiming he gets “an extra minute” every time he gets booed or somebody coughs?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:52:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:54:11pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 6:59:09pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:00:11pm
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Florida Panhandler  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:03:24pm

re: #4 jaunte

And this is why Kevin McCarty is mad.

And Republicans will campaign on all the local benefits of this bill even while voting against it.

This is because they are lying evil bastards. They are the 4Chan Party.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:07:21pm

The kitchen sink speech.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:08:48pm

I think we deserve a 90 minute Democratic response speech before voting.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:11:45pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:14:46pm

re: #39 jaunte

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:14:48pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is McCarthy getting unlimited time? Is there some special rule for the party leaders in the House?

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Jay C  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:14:48pm

re: #42 Dread Pirate Ron

I think we deserve a 90 minute Democratic response speech before voting.

Myself, I’d prefer something more like the chair recognizing one D Rep, who would get up and say:

”Madam Speaker, I move that the Honorable Minority Leader be formally enjoined to go fuck himself, and that this House immediately move to vote on [the BBB]…”

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Dangerman  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:17:30pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:19:22pm

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:30:58pm

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:33:28pm

re: #23 plansbandc

Got pretty wiped out from the booster. Tired, achy, and slight fever. Pretty much slept all day.

Still, very happy to get it and the flu shot. A little pain is worth it.

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

Getting my booster shot tomorrow. The guidance I got from CVS is to drink a lot of water one hour before the shot to lessen side effects.

Got mine (Moderna) yesterday, no effect today but a little injection site stiffness.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:33:45pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:35:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:38:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:38:39pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:40:35pm
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Jay C  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:40:47pm

re: #52 jaunte

He still blathering on?
I know the House has different rules about filibustering, but isn’t there some rule or other that Reps have to eventually sit down and shut up?

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:42:01pm

re: #56 Jay C

I think in this case he gets as much rope as he wants.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:42:24pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:46:07pm

That boy keeps crying wolf. He ain’t right.

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darthstar  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:54:44pm

Just noticed I’m still on parole at Facebook for the following post

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:55:31pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Sigh, the loss of film

I know that the UK spinoff from Kodak, called Kodak_____ (I forget the rest of the name and am too lazy to google it right now) still makes some films, but only a small selection of the old product line.

Few new photographers today even had experience with film. Or why film is still preferable to digital in some instances.

Sort of like kids today never having experienced cathode ray tubes. I learned as a kid how magnets can affect TV images, or how the TV image was composed of tiny little dots or bars (Sony). Holding up a magnet or magnifying glass to the front of a CRT teaches one about how the real world works.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:57:17pm

re: #60 darthstar

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:57:31pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:57:33pm

re: #60 darthstar

Clearly it was the “Canadians” part, eh?

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:57:58pm

Canadians are deceptively strict.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2021 • 7:59:18pm

re: #57 jaunte

I think in this case he gets as much rope as he wants.

Keep him at it until his knees buckle.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:01:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:01:52pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:05:54pm

Watching Kevin McCarthy waving his arms while listening to Tears for Fears sing SHOUT and it really improves the act.

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ipsos  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:07:47pm

re: #61 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Maybe it’s just being here in Rochester, but there’s still a pretty active film-based photography community locally. I go on photo walks now and then and it tends to be half film, half digital. Some of the most avid film fans are the youngest, too!

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:07:58pm
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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:12:12pm

re: #23 plansbandc

Got pretty wiped out from the booster. Tired, achy, and slight fever. Pretty much slept all day.

Still, very happy to get it and the flu shot. A little pain is worth it.

We got our boosters today, along with seasonal flu shots. She Who Must Be Obeyed had Pfizers, got another Pfizer, while I had Modernas and got a Pfizer, which was all CVS was giving. Arms are hurting, but so far nothing else.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:25:54pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:27:09pm

re: #70 ipsos

Maybe it’s just being here in Rochester, but there’s still a pretty active film-based photography community locally. I go on photo walks now and then and it tends to be half film, half digital. Some of the most avid film fans are the youngest, too!

Film is back to stay.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:28:51pm

Still talking, I see. Back to Foundation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:30:46pm

re: #74 Rightwingconspirator

Film is back to stay.

There will always be hobbyists. But supplies will always be difficult to find going forward.

Sure, if you live in a major urban area you might find a local camera store stock a few film supplies, but developing and printing one’s one silver photography requires lots of stuff. A darkroom is needed, and even if one converts a bathroom there is still a ton of stuff needed.

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austin_blue  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:30:53pm

re: #70 ipsos

Maybe it’s just being here in Rochester, but there’s still a pretty active film-based photography community locally. I go on photo walks now and then and it tends to be half film, half digital. Some of the most avid film fans are the youngest, too!

She Who Must Be Obeyed did grad school at Eastman, studying w/ Eileen Malone.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:32:47pm

re: #61 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It aint over thank goodness. Film has had a significant cinema come back. And still to just a bit

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:40:43pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:41:49pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:51:43pm

So I slipped into a coma there for a moment, is McCarthy still filibustering?

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:52:44pm

sitz•fleisch
/ˈsitsˌflīSH/
nouninformal•US
noun: sitzfleisch

a person’s buttocks.
“the bedspring tattooed waffles all over my Sitzfleisch”
power to endure or to persevere in an activity; staying power.
“I was given tasks which required lots of Sitzfleisch, but didn’t offer much excitement”

Origin
from German, from sitzen ‘sit’ + Fleisch ‘flesh’.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 8:53:51pm
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ipsos  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:10:06pm

re: #76 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There will always be hobbyists. But supplies will always be difficult to find going forward.

Sure, if you live in a major urban area you might find a local camera store stock a few film supplies, but developing and printing one’s one silver photography requires lots of stuff. A darkroom is needed, and even if one converts a bathroom there is still a ton of stuff needed.

Even here in Kodakville, it’s a challenge. The best local camera store in town is on the verge of selling off its building, with the site about to become a Taco Bell.

It’s worrisome, but we’re all hoping they find a way to survive.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:18:36pm

Clintoncare, boo.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:24:35pm

re: #85 Dread Pirate Ron

Clintoncare, boo.

I’d say we’d reached the “slinging shit against the wall” stage of this speech, but I’m not sure we ever left it.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:28:25pm

re: #76 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There will always be hobbyists. But supplies will always be difficult to find going forward.

Sure, if you live in a major urban area you might find a local camera store stock a few film supplies, but developing and printing one’s one silver photography requires lots of stuff. A darkroom is needed, and even if one converts a bathroom there is still a ton of stuff needed.

Imagine if you were still using cement as your medium.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:30:40pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:31:33pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:36:06pm
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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:37:18pm

re: #76 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There will always be hobbyists. But supplies will always be difficult to find going forward.

Sure, if you live in a major urban area you might find a local camera store stock a few film supplies, but developing and printing one’s one silver photography requires lots of stuff. A darkroom is needed, and even if one converts a bathroom there is still a ton of stuff needed.

freestylephoto.biz sells everything you need and it’s not too expensive.

A daylight safe tank and changing bag.
Basic chemicals. Diafine is great for home development.
Scanner to scan 35mm into your computer to adjust like digital.

No need for a dark room with that kind of hybrid system. I’ve done it. I find my digital Leica to be far more fun and easy to deal with.

Now - IF you’re serious about old school printing, then, yes, you need an enlarger and a darkroom. But usually by then you see people getting into serious retro too - wet glass plates, daguerreotype, platinum prints, etc.

If I were rich, I’d own an 8x10 camera, a Cooke Triple lens and do contact prints for art galleries. I’m not _that_ rich though so I only use a Leica.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:38:21pm

re: #90 jaunte

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Qevin’s gonna keep going, figuring “I totally got them right where I want them,” then respond to the news that the vote’s been rescheduled with “WHY DIDN’T ANYONE STOP ME!?!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:38:31pm

What are the rules on this: does he have to keep talking all night to preserve this “filibuster” or can he leave the floor and then resume this nonsense in the morning?

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:39:23pm

New seat-fillers subbing in.

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ipsos  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:48:47pm

Who’s the maskless woman sitting to McCarthy’s left two rows back? And why isn’t anyone on the floor enforcing the mask rules?

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:50:31pm

I’m just waiting to see how the legacy media portray tonight as a “win” for the GQP.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 18, 2021 • 9:54:19pm

re: #30 Belafon

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 10:04:25pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

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It’s a bit like going after a German immigrant because he was in the Hitler Youth as a boy, blatantly ignoring that after 1936 membership was compulsory until age 18, when you were then drafted into the military.

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2021 • 10:08:46pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

Like they blame George Soros.

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2021 • 10:09:59pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

It’s a bit like going after a German immigrant because he was in the Hitler Youth as a boy, blatantly ignoring that after 1936 membership was compulsory until age 18, when you were then drafted into the military.

Some tried to pull that one with Pope Benedict, IIRC.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 10:20:49pm

re: #100 TedStriker

Some tried to pull that one with Pope Benedict, IIRC.

Yep, but his issue was that he was selected by Mother Church as an effort to hold back growing demands for reform and liberalization.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 18, 2021 • 10:46:27pm

So the vote is put off to tomorrow. I wonder whether McCarthy will let it happen, or do we get to find out his actual bladder capacity before the it’s held?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 18, 2021 • 10:54:49pm

CNN - The House has rescheduled its vote on Biden’s economic bill after Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy delayed proceedings with a 4-hour speech

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 10:55:27pm

re: #102 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

So the vote is put off to tomorrow. I wonder whether McCarthy will let it happen, or do we get to find out his actual bladder capacity before the it’s held?

He’s still going? Fuck’s sake, SOMEBODY BANG THE FUCKIN’ GONG!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:13:31pm

Amazon’s ‘Wheel of Time’ is twisted.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:20:36pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

He’s still going? Fuck’s sake, SOMEBODY BANG THE FUCKIN’ GONG!

It would be impressive if he did this shit in heels. Anyone check the low=angle CSPAN?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:23:04pm

Just got up to follow the eclipse. It’s noticeable, but the sky is still painfully bright.

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:23:35pm

re: #76 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There will always be hobbyists. But supplies will always be difficult to find going forward.

Sure, if you live in a major urban area you might find a local camera store stock a few film supplies, but developing and printing one’s one silver photography requires lots of stuff. A darkroom is needed, and even if one converts a bathroom there is still a ton of stuff needed.

Digital will never equal the texture of film, but it’s getting better. Yet, it’s a lot easier and cheaper to use. I had a darkroom when I was younger, and I loved working in it. But I can make photos of near-equal quality at a fraction of the cost and time with digital, so it’s a no-brainer to me.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:44:15pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Just got up to follow the eclipse. It’s noticeable, but the sky is still painfully bright.

Heavy cloud cover here. Ah well.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:49:43pm

re: #108 The GOP is a terrorist organization

Digital will never equal the texture of film, but it’s getting better. Yet, it’s a lot easier and cheaper to use. I had a darkroom when I was younger, and I loved working in it. But I can make photos of near-equal quality at a fraction of the cost and time with digital, so it’s a no-brainer to me.

I gave up on silver more than 10 years ago, 50 years after I bought my first good camera. I bought a used digital a couple weeks ago. The lens from my old Canonflex R and all my other glass will adapt to the T6i, but at some cost of resolution. I’m skulking the auction sites for great ancient lenses that will adapt without “correcting” adapters.

Digital is an entirely new world to learn.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:55:50pm

re: #108 The GOP is a terrorist organization

Digital will never equal the texture of film, but it’s getting better. Yet, it’s a lot easier and cheaper to use. I had a darkroom when I was younger, and I loved working in it. But I can make photos of near-equal quality at a fraction of the cost and time with digital, so it’s a no-brainer to me.

I owned a film Leica (IIIf & CL) in the past and was a film bigot for a very long time. I have a digital Leica ( M Type 240) now doing 25mp. I doubt anyone can tell which was taken on which. Back when I bought my first 6mp digital? Or even my 12mp Olympus? Yeah, especially with certain artifacts and in the greyscale conversion. Now though? The difference is more that of difference between oil paint and film - different art forms for achieving similar but not the same goals. As I mentioned above if I were rich (and I do mean rich because the material costs are so high) I’d be happy to buy an 8x10 view camera and do artsy-fartsy contact prints like Weston or Adams. But I know St Ansel would have snarfed the first Nikon D1 and never looked back (given his experimentation and use of any camera he could get his hands on).

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:55:59pm

McCarthy is still babbling. He’s going to go through tomorrow.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2021 • 11:59:06pm

re: #112 Dread Pirate Ron

McCarthy is still babbling. He’s going to go through tomorrow.

See, Joe, Kristen? THIS is how you filibuster, not that lame-ass “I’m filibustering” email business.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:10:54am

re: #111 William Lewis

Still have a couple 4x5s, a Calumet and a Brand 17. It’s totally impossible to feed them. Some day there will be 6x6 backs under $10,000, but no day soon.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:14:12am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

Still have a couple 4x5s, a Calumet and a Brand 17. It’s totally impossible to feed them. Some day there will be 6x6 backs under $10,000, but no day soon.

I have an old Century Graphic 4x5 that I hacked the front standard into proper movements though still none in the back. But sheet film is expensive and a real pain to develop these days. I miss it though because the glass I have for it is glorious.

The east german 5x7 is more of a piece of art than anything.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:20:07am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

re: #115 William Lewis

Yes, sheet film looks to be quite expensive, at least on the B&H website.

I don’t have any way of developing film anymore. Used to have access to a lab.

My favorite size is 6x7cm (roll film) like on the Pentax 67. Miss those cameras.

Sheet film looks gorgeous, but I find that handling them is too much for me.

Camera movements are the key to so much, and almost no one who has never used a view camera really knows what they are about.

If only a camera corporation could make an affordable digital back for view cameras. Making a large digital sensor is inherently very expensive as the reject rate at the fabrication stage of the chip will be high.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:23:04am

re: #115 William Lewis

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:23:37am

So Amazon dropped the first three episodes of Wheel of Time.

I’ll go check it out and see if I like it. Bet I’ll be put off by it, but there is a chance I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

I’m kind of done with the whole fantasy genre. Peter Jackson set a high bar for a fantasy adaptation. Too much of the lesser fantasy shows are very juvenile (see the no end of cheap fantasy shows on American cable channels the past 3 decades), often being nothing but a pretense for unbridled teenage erotic angst.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:25:16am

re: #117 Decatur Deb

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:30:20am

re: #118 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I didn’t care for the books - only three maybe four in the hands of a better author and a competent editor could have told the story much better. As a result I don’t expect that I am the “prime” audience for it, if you’ll pardon the expression…

Now season 6 of The Expanse and Star Trek: Prodigy are more my speed.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:33:15am

re: #119 William Lewis

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:33:59am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:36:12am

Moon is about 2/3 occulted in our clear sky.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:38:24am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

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Cheechako  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:51:30am

Any bets if McCarthy can keep on talking to 0800 when the bill is scheduled to be voted on? Only 4 hours to go. On the other hand, he’s so pissed at Nancy he’ll probably keep on going for at least 6 more hours.

Who is to McCarthy’s left spitting chew into a can?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:52:14am

em>re: #125 Cheechako

Any bets if McCarthy can keep on talking to 0800 when the bill is scheduled to be voted on? Only 4 hours to go. On the other hand, he’s so pissed at Nancy he’ll probably keep on going for at least 6 more hours.

Who is to McCarthy’s left spitting chew into a can?

MTG?

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Cheechako  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:52:58am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

MTG?

I think it’s Hawthorn.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:54:40am

re: #127 Cheechako

I think it’s Hawthorn.

A couple decades ago that joke would have been obvious.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:57:51am

About 1/10 of the moon is still illuminated.

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Cheechako  Nov 19, 2021 • 12:58:21am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

A couple decades ago that joke would have been obvious.

I know. Didn’t want to bite.

It may be Hawley.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:03:10am

Eclipse is about at max, and we got a bonus meteor—probably a Leonid.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:07:56am

WLIII—I think I’ve still got an email for you somewhere. I don’t want to plug a commercial site on LGF.

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Cheechako  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:09:20am

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Spitting snow here. No eclipse.

McCarthy’s going to set a new record for lies and just plain bullshit in one speech on the House floor. Making TFG look like an armature.

I’m giving up for the night.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:17:21am

re: #133 Cheechako

Wife got up to make waffles, but I still might catch a couple hours. It’s 3:15 here

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:25:35am

re: #30 Belafon

Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) presses Biden’s pick for currency comptroller Saule Omarova about “you used to be a member of a group called The Young Communists.”

Omarova explains, because she was born in the Soviet Union, she was part of school youth programs mandated for students.

People used the same argument that former Pope Benedict XVI was a member of a Nazi Organization: he was in the Hitler Youth.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:33:07am

Is he still talking at 4:30 am?

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:33:48am

re: #136 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is he still talking at 4:30 am?

He is. Babbling like a loon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 1:39:55am

re: #137 Targetpractice

He is. Babbling like a loon.

Total Eclipse of the McCarthy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 2:07:55am

In Honor of World Philosophy Day:

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 2:57:54am

re: #132 Decatur Deb

WLIII—I think I’ve still got an email for you somewhere. I don’t want to plug a commercial site on LGF.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:00:52am

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Eclipse is about at max, and we got a bonus meteor—probably a Leonid.

The eclipse was visible here for a while through the prairie fire haze, but now it’s overcast so we’ve got nuthin’.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:01:07am

So we were all looking forward to the new season of ST Discovery but now Paramount Plus has pulled the plug and it will not be appearing on Netflix until next year.

Puck Faramount

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:02:17am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The eclipse was visible here for a while through the prairie fire haze, but now it’s overcast so we’ve got nuthin’.

Wrong part of the world and it was overcast in any case.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:07:32am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So we were all looking forward to the new season of ST Discovery but now Paramount Plus has pulled the plug and it will not be appearing on Netflix until next year.

Puck Faramount

So…piracy?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:08:16am

re: #144 Targetpractice

So…piracy?

or join Paramount +

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:12:52am

Pastor Defends Church Event That Led to Covid Outbreak: I Did What God Wanted (Friendly Atheist)

Three people died. He justifies it because “one young woman was saved.”

His church defied a local health order in Nova Scotia on large gatherings.

A woman in Amherst, N.S., has died of COVID-19 following an outbreak at the group home where she lived. Her death is one of three now linked to a recent religious gathering that failed to follow public health guidelines.

Victoria Harrison, known to family and friends as Vicki, died Nov. 10, one week after testing positive for COVID-19, her niece Nancy Trenholm told CBC News.

“We’re mad, we’re frustrated,” said Trenholm.

Harrison was fully vaccinated against COVID-19, but Trenholm said her 64-year-old aunt was not in good health. Trenholm said she’s angry with people who have chosen to not get vaccinated, who account for more than 85 per cent of cases in Nova Scotia over the past six months.

Resident of Amherst, N.S., group home dies of COVID-19 (CBC)

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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:22:38am

re: #78 Rightwingconspirator

It aint over thank goodness. Film has had a significant cinema come back. And still to just a bit

There’s just no point anymore. Even a 500 dollar Pentax generates more resolution now than a 35mm piece of film, and post processing RAW will get you easier, better results than hours in a darkroom.

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:30:02am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pastor Defends Church Event That Led to Covid Outbreak: I Did What God Wanted (Friendly Atheist)

Three people died. He justifies it because “one young woman was saved.”

His church defied a local health order in Nova Scotia on large gatherings.

Resident of Amherst, N.S., group home dies of COVID-19 (CBC)

Yet another pastor about to cry “God’s Will!” when it was his own ignorance, stupidity and greed that created the conditions that caused that woman’s death.
He doesn’t worship God, he worships mammon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:33:09am

re: #148 The Squire of Logos

Yet another pastor about to cry “God’s Will!” when it was his own ignorance, stupidity and greed that created the conditions that caused that woman’s death.
He doesn’t worship God, he worships mammon.

The church yanked the sermon off social media three days after the assertion that “it’s all good because we ‘saved’ a young woman.”

I’m not sure why anyone who is not “saved” in the Evangelical sense would go to a three-day Christian event in the first place, and they didn’t name or show who she is.

Pulling down the video to my mind goes to consciousness of guilt. Most Christian apologists on YouTube and such just block comments.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:37:35am

re: #148 The Squire of Logos

Yet another pastor about to cry “God’s Will!” when it was his own ignorance, stupidity and greed that created the conditions that caused that woman’s death.
He doesn’t worship God, he worships mammon.

Ways To Apologize Without Saying Sorry (The Onion, October 1, 2021)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:47:08am

re: #148 The Squire of Logos

Yet another pastor about to cry “God’s Will!” when it was his own ignorance, stupidity and greed that created the conditions that caused that woman’s death.
He doesn’t worship God, he worships mammon.

They have a Divine License to interpret and implement His Divine Will here on earth.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:52:44am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:55:28am

More interesting ways to remove Democrats from office:

A Democratic single mother on the Omaha Public School board lived in a rented house.

The city cited too many code violations by the landlord and prohibited him from renting it.

In Omaha’s eviction court, an appeal by the renter was rejected, and she was made homeless along with her two children. She is now living out of a car, which is not legal for holding office. She was forced off the school board.

The board will now meet to appoint her Republican replacement.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 3:56:57am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not sure why anyone who is not “saved” in the Evangelical sense would go to a three-day Christian event in the first place, and they didn’t name or show who she is.

Honestly speaking, there are a lot of hurting people in the world, and Christianity - or religion in general, really - tries to offer some hope that pain is temporary and that there’s something better in our future. Regardless of whether that’s actually true or not, some people who are in a really bad place find appeal in that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:00:19am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I assume that the pastor can produce a Divine Certificate of Salvation to substantiate his claims…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:02:12am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:03:46am

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

Honestly speaking, there are a lot of hurting people in the world, and Christianity - or religion in general, really - tries to offer some hope that pain is temporary and that there’s something better in our future. Regardless of whether that’s actually true or not, some people who are in a really bad place find appeal in that.

And they do it by defying the law and killing people in their communities.

It’s amazing how many “prayer warriors” fail over at Sorry Antivaxxer. It’s almost as if Christians lie or something.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:07:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:08:04am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

BREAKING: 102 missing children at Nebraska’s Genoa Indian School, just one of 367 Indian boarding schools in the United States.The graves have yet to be found. Demand Congress pass the bill for a Truth Commission on this genocidal history in our country.

“Have you no heart for the white people traumatized by reports like this?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:10:09am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It would be really cool if all the Republicans who’ve been inventing things for people to get angry about would knock it off before someone gets murdered, which is 100% where we’re headed.

If we add a list of all the Republicans who would conduct or at least condone illegal activity to promote their cause together with the ones who actively embrace or at least condone violence as a means to that end, I suspect we will have a majority…

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:12:35am

re: #152 Shropshire Slasher

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With a baseball bat

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:17:26am

Austria to go into full lockdown as Covid surges (BBC, ten minutes ago)

Days after Austria imposed a lockdown on the unvaccinated, it has announced a full national Covid-19 lockdown starting on Monday.

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said it would last a maximum of 20 days and there would be a legal requirement to get vaccinated from 1 February 2022.

He was responding to record case numbers and one of the lowest vaccination levels in Western Europe.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:19:34am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Austria to go into full lockdown as Covid surges (BBC, ten minutes ago)

and now people are complaining about the long lines outside the vaccination buses…

Germany will also be tightening restrictions soon.

But for that, they will be legalizing weed soon.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:24:50am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pastor Defends Church Event That Led to Covid Outbreak: I Did What God Wanted (Friendly Atheist)

Three people died. He justifies it because “one young woman was saved.”

Three people died but one young woman got caught up in all of the singing and crying and testifying and other emotional shit that happens at these events and exclaimed, “Jesus take me!”

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Nojay UK  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:30:25am

re: #164 darthstar

Three people died but one young woman got caught up in all of the singing and crying and testifying and other emotional shit that happens at these events and exclaimed, “Jesus take me!”

I am reminded of a science-fiction short story wherein explorers from Earth discover a planet that used to have intelligent life until quite recently. Decoding some of the records of this vanished race they found out the aliens had conclusively and scientifically proven the existence of life after death and then built millions of suicide booths to kill themselves.

The explorers very carefully avoided decoding the proof the aliens left behind.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:36:09am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pastor Defends Church Event That Led to Covid Outbreak: I Did What God Wanted (Friendly Atheist)

Three people died. He justifies it because “one young woman was saved.”

His church defied a local health order in Nova Scotia on large gatherings.

Resident of Amherst, N.S., group home dies of COVID-19 (CBC)

Takes a lot of nerve to presume to know what God wants

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:38:21am

re: #166 Dangerman

Takes a lot of nerve to presume to know what God wants

First lesson at Televangelist School: “How to cover your ass by declaring it was all God’s Divine Will”.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:39:50am

‘cept it’s not ‘all at once”

and the US population is about three times what it was in 1932.
we probably needed spent more

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:47:19am

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:49:24am
Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) told his colleagues this week top party donors were “furious” with the number of Republicans — including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell — who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill, Axios reports.

The donors complained to Scott it was foolish for any member of their party to help deliver a win to President Biden.

the problem with the R’s in a nutshell
they have lost the meaning of governing (yes they had it once)

they blew right past “ideological narcissism” - which wouldnt have been a great place to stop - the belief that no decent, honest, and caring person could possibly come to a different conclusion on public policy issues than WE, who after all are a paragon of virtue, tolerance, caring, and wisdom.

even that would require recognition that people exist.
they no longer see see public service or constituents or the country.

they have settled on a degenerative, brutal struggle for power because they only see ‘winning’ and ‘losing’

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:49:38am

Spit your Coffee…..

HOW TO FUNK IN TWO MINUTES

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:50:50am

re: #169 darthstar

Yes, I remember when it was Barbara Bachmann, Sarah and Sharon Angle were the Three She-stooges of the GOP but they are all luminaries compared to Lauren Bobert, MTG and Michelle Fiore

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 4:52:01am

re: #168 Dangerman

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and the US population is about three times what it was in 1932.
we probably needed spent more

WW2 got us out of the Great Depression, so yeah, we needed more.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:00:38am

Acting funny, but I don’t know why….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:00:43am

re: #173 Belafon

WW2 got us out of the Great Depression, so yeah, we needed more.

My dad was working three-day weeks at the US Steel Gary plant and barely getting by until the War. He was old enough to be drafter (born 1918) but had flat feet, three kids (at the time) and a job rolling steel plate.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:03:57am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:04:13am

re: #174 darthstar

Acting funny, but I don’t know why….

Wylde Thynge, thou makest my hearte to sing.
Wylde Thynge, thou dost make everything…
groovye.
Wylde thing, methinks thou dost smite me.
But I would behoove to ascertain with surety…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:06:08am
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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:07:38am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Good ear worm for 5am. Going to try to go back to sleep now with that in my head. Thanks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:09:57am

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Used to have a copy of “Boys Like Sex in the Morning” on cassette…probably still do somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:12:02am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Used to have a copy of “Boys Like Sex in the Morning” on cassette…probably still do somewhere.

I have several Uncle Bonsai albums on LP.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:13:18am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Used to have a copy of “Boys Like Sex in the Morning” on cassette…probably still do somewhere.

(3:26)

Boys Want Sex in the Morning

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:14:30am

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have several Uncle Bonsai albums on LP.

I left my entire LP collection in the ‘States when I emigrated to Europe in 1988, that is about when CD’s were starting to come out and I figured I would just start from scratch, so to speak, as most of my collection was in pretty dismal shape anyways from owning cheap turntables with shitty needles.

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:14:47am

Good morning Lizards:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:16:51am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I left my entire LP collection in the ‘States when I emigrated to Europe in 1988, that is about when CD’s were starting to come out and I figured I would just start from scratch, so to speak, as most of my collection was in pretty dismal shape anyways from owning cheap turntables with shitty needles.

The first CD I bought was Abba “Gold” in 1984. That was fookin’ expensive back then.

I had a Radio Shack CD player I also bought which cost about $800, which would play one CD and was programmable!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:18:49am

re: #140 William Lewis

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:22:30am

When I was transferred from Spain to Florida, the only thing missing in my household shipment was an $800 Audio-Techinca cartridge for my Pioneer turntable. When the turntable was unpacked, the cartridge was missing.

The insurance company had some difficulty believing that was the case, but they eventually paid me for the missing cartridge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:24:02am

re: #184 b.d. (The war is over)

McCarthy’s stunt last night is actually a strong argument for the talking filibuster. You can delay legislation as long as - but no longer - than you are willing to hold the floor. It’s self-limiting. And you start seeming stupid.

except that to his party, he seems like a hero on a last-ditch attempt to save America from socialist self-immolation.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:24:36am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except that to his party, he seems like a hero on a last-ditch attempt to save America from socialist self-immolation.

Kind of like filibustering the Civil Rights Act.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:25:53am
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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:26:17am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except that to his party, he seems like a hero on a last-ditch attempt to save America from socialist self-immolation.

that won’t last the day, he better fundraise quick!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:27:08am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The first CD I bought was Abba “Gold” in 1984. That was fookin’ expensive back then.

I had a Radio Shack CD player I also bought which cost about $800, which would play one CD and was programmable!

I got a Radio Shack stereo record player for Christmas of 1972. Cost my folks a whopping $159.99.
I immediately ran out with my Christmas money and bought Living in the Past by Jethro Tull, Close to the Edge by Yes and Trilogy by Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:27:30am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:28:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:28:18am

re: #193 Belafon

as opposed to the Great American Brainbake Show

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:28:44am

Good news, good things take forever to happen in that town.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:29:16am

Good news if it ACTUALLY happens.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:30:42am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:42:02am

re: #103 Dread Pirate Ron

Eight and a half hour speech!! McCarthy is pure evil. He had little to say about the January 6th insurrection though.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:45:29am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I got a Radio Shack stereo record player for Christmas of 1972. Cost my folks a whopping $159.99.
I immediately ran out with my Christmas money and bought Living in the Past by Jethro Tull, Close to the Edge by Yes and Trilogy by Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

Back in 1972, I was banned from listening to popular music by my grandparents.

My mother took me to see an Abrams Planetarium production of Issac Asimov’s “The Last Question,” and one of the pieces of music they used was “Roundabout.”

I managed to get my hands on my two first “popular music” LP’s after that: Fragile and We’re an American Band.

After that, my mother helped me undermine my grandparent’s restrictions on records, helping me buy Cheech & Chong and George Carlin albums, along with all sorts of music including more Yes albums (and my mother hates Yes).

If it wasn’t for that Michigan State University production, who knows how my music taste would have turned out? /s

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:45:47am

re: #199 Patricia Kayden

Eight and a half hour speech!! McCarthy is pure evil. He had little to say about the January 6th insurrection though.

TBF He is no more evil than the rest of his caucus, except Kinzinger and Cheney, and maybe the few who voted for impeachment or BIF.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:46:51am

Duterte’s spiritual adviser Quiboloy charged with sex trafficking in US (CNN)

Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, November 19) — United States prosecutors have filed sex trafficking charges against Apollo Quiboloy, megachurch leader and President Rodrigo Duterte’s spiritual adviser, for coercing underaged girls and young women to have sex with him under threats of “eternal damnation.”

The US Department of Justice on Thursday announced the indictment of Quiboloy as the founder of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, The Name Above Every Name (KOJC). The “international administrator” of KOJC in the US Teresita Tolibas Dandan and one-time top administrator Helen Panilag were also charged.

The top three church officials remain at-large. The US Justice department said in a statement that the defendants are believed to be in Davao City, the turf of the Duterte family.

US officials also arrested Felina Salinas, Maria de Leon, and Bettina Padilla Roces on Thursday and the three were expected to make their initial appearances on the same day in United States District Court in Los Angeles and Honolulu.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:46:54am

Stupid fascist.

“No more ‘Happy Hanukkah,’ only ‘Merry Christmas,’” racist livestreamer Baked Alaska allegedly said as he tore down a Jewish group’s signage.

The Ugly New Charges Against Jan. 6 Rioter ‘Baked Alaska’ (The Daily Beast)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:47:18am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My buddy’s Christian parents banned the Beatles (for being Bigger than Jesus) but not the Rolling Stones, I always found it ironic to sit upstairs with him in his room and listen to Their Satanic Majesties Request.

But I do remember lying to my mother about the title of the Album I had just brought back, The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys, “Uh, it’s called Traffic Jam

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:51:03am

re: #203 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Stupid fascist.

“No more ‘Happy Hanukkah,’ only ‘Merry Christmas,’” racist livestreamer Baked Alaska allegedly said as he tore down a Jewish group’s signage.

“Punch a Fascist” takes on another meaning when you realize that these people openly embrace violence as a means of implementing their agenda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:56:18am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:56:37am
The live-action remake of the beloved anime series, starring John Cho, doesn’t seem to understand what made the original so great.

The OG Cowboy Bebop blasted its premise across its infectious theme: “The work, which becomes a new genre itself, will be called Cowboy Bebop.” And the anime series’ conceit consisted of wrapping popular genre motifs in a 26-minute package. One week, it was a mechanized Space Warrior’s delight; the next, an achingly personal drama, blaxploitation romp, gun-slinging Western, or certified kung-fu flick. The dark, universe-spanning neo-noir followed a trio of bounty hunters—Spike, Jet and Faye—as they hurtle toward their next big score while attempting to outrun their pasts on their spaceship, The Bebop. Its crisp animation, crackling soundtrack, stylized aesthetic and unpredictable world endeared it to fans across the West, making Cowboy Bebop one of the most popular animes of all time.

In the minds of most anime fans, a live-action remake simply cannot recreate the spirit of the medium. Between the by-the-panel approach of the Rurouni Kenshin Netflix films or the very strange, very bad Dragon Ball and Ghost in the Shell remakes, no adaptation can seem to get the formula right. Unfortunately for Cowboy Bebop, fans will continue their search for an adequate remix. André Nemec’s new Netflix series, which stretches each episode to 40-plus minutes, doesn’t really know what to do with more resources and time. Its performances signal that the cast doesn’t appear to grasp the pull of the source material, opting instead for lame slapstick humor and cornball lines (the script is woefully deficient). Cowboy Bebop gets some of the style parts right: the show’s kung-fu scenes, snappy scene-setting, and over-the-top imagery can prove compelling. But where it falters, fatally, is in its misunderstanding of the kind of show Cowboy Bebop is. This isn’t just an issue of translation from one creative medium to another, but rather a complete misreading, transforming a gripping space saga into something utterly childish.

What centered its universe and plot was an overwhelming sense of melancholy. No matter how loudly their ship’s machine guns rang out, how many sly grins Spike would crack at women and nemeses alike, the original was never a show that felt like everything would work out. These characters have been through the wringer, and they acted like it. The series takes place in 2071, 50 years after a catastrophe leaves Earth uninhabitable and the reality of human uprootedness permeates every seam. Ships guided by lonely pilots careen through space, pining for their next meal, a casino to gamble away their last Woolong or bar fight with a stranger, if only to feel some sense of connection. Spike’s exile from his last gang, the mystery behind Jet’s cybernetic arm and police force past, and Faye’s strange post-cryogenic amnesia have left them both physically and psychologically scarred—unable to truly relate with others because they know how finite the world is.

More at Netflix’s ‘Cowboy Bebop’ Is a Flaming Pile of Space Trash (The Daily Beast - Paywalled)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:59:20am

The very first “popular” song I ever heard.

(8:31)

Roundabout (2003 Remaster)

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jeffreyw  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:59:37am

Good morning!

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 5:59:48am

re: #199 Patricia Kayden

Eight and a half hour speech!! McCarthy is pure evil. He had little to say about the January 6th insurrection though.

Pelosi did 8 hours in stilettos

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:01:16am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Back in 1972, I was banned from listening to popular music by my grandparents.

My mother took me to see an Abrams Planetarium production of Issac Asimov’s “The Last Question,” and one of the pieces of music they used was “Roundabout.”

I managed to get my hands on my two first “popular music” LP’s after that: Fragile and We’re and American Band.

After that, my mother helped me undermine my grandparent’s restrictions on records, helping me buy Cheech & Chong and George Carlin albums, along with all sorts of music including more Yes albums (and my mother hates Yes).

If it wasn’t for that Michigan State University production, who knows how my music taste would have turned out? /s

I didn’t listen to popular music by my grandparents either

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Semper Fi  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:01:20am

re: #170 Dangerman

the problem with the R’s in a nutshell
they have lost the meaning of governing (yes they had it once)

they blew right past “ideological narcissism” - which wouldnt have been a great place to stop - the belief that no decent, honest, and caring person could possibly come to a different conclusion on public policy issues than WE, who after all are a paragon of virtue, tolerance, caring, and wisdom.

even that would require recognition that people exist.
they no longer see see public service or constituents or the country.

they have settled on a degenerative, brutal struggle for power because they only see ‘winning’ and ‘losing’

I would like to upping this again and again and…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:03:05am

re: #211 Dangerman

I didn’t listen to popular music by my grandparents either

I lived with my grandparents for many years while my mother was attending college.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:05:58am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:07:29am

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Bill Pascrell (D-NJ): Yeah, I did.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:09:13am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:09:27am

For those who are getting vaccinated, this is sensible next step. For the antivaxxers, they see this as proof vaccines don’t work, even though most vaccines usually get boosters because immunity wanes over time.

I plan on getting the booster when I’m at my six month point.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:10:51am

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I lived with my grandparents for many years while my mother was attending college.

I know, I wasn’t making light of your past
I was just playing with the words

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:11:10am

Time for me to stagger off to bed.

Rick Wakeman of Yes played the grand piano part of Cat Stevens’s hit “Morning Has Broken.” In this performance, Rick Wakeman plays the song solo. (2:33)

Rick Wakeman - Morning Has Broken

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:11:48am

motion to recommit fails

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Ming5000  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:12:01am

Biden is exceeding any FDR comparisons that I didn’t even think to think in the first place.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:12:29am

vote on final passage begins

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:12:51am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it will be reported as though he said something profound or important.

No. What McCarthy did was stall and lie and dissemble, and know that he’s got an audience of know nothings at Fox who will lap up every grievance and bogus claim all while benefiting from the programs they despise. These same GOPers will then go back to their districts to claim that they got those benefits for their residents.

They’re doing it with the infrastructure bill they opposed. They’ll do it here too.

And that means nothing to the media, because both siderism is their ongoing narrative.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:13:10am

re: #217 lawhawk

For those who are getting vaccinated, this is sensible next step. For the antivaxxers, they see this as proof vaccines don’t work, even though most vaccines usually get boosters because immunity wanes over time.

I plan on getting the booster when I’m at my six month point.

The myth that vaccinations are supposed to work for life is largely based on the fact that most of what we’re being vaccinated against are diseases that primarily affect children. By the time we’re adults, we don’t need the extremely high immune response of a fresh vaccination, because the disease has a low probability of affecting us by that point. This is more akin to the seasonal flu, which we DO have a vaccine for, every single year (mostly due to its rapid mutation rate). And there are periodic vaccinations that are supposed to be administered for other things, such as tetanus, on a less frequent basis.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:15:09am

More lazy reporting and lazy headlines, as though context doesn’t matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:17:14am
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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:18:20am

re: #224 Dopamine Fish

The myth that vaccinations are supposed to work for life is largely based on the fact that most of what we’re being vaccinated against are diseases that primarily affect children. By the time we’re adults, we don’t need the extremely high immune response of a fresh vaccination, because the disease has a low probability of affecting us by that point. This is more akin to the seasonal flu, which we DO have a vaccine for, every single year (mostly due to its rapid mutation rate). And there are periodic vaccinations that are supposed to be administered for other things, such as tetanus, on a less frequent basis.

Science, howzzat work?

I’m just an NFL quarterback with “reasons” I won’t even say out loud

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:18:25am

It takes about two years to fully spread through a country it seems:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:18:57am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:20:43am

re: #224 Dopamine Fish

The myth that vaccinations are supposed to work for life is largely based on the fact that most of what we’re being vaccinated against are diseases that primarily affect children. By the time we’re adults, we don’t need the extremely high immune response of a fresh vaccination, because the disease has a low probability of affecting us by that point. This is more akin to the seasonal flu, which we DO have a vaccine for, every single year (mostly due to its rapid mutation rate). And there are periodic vaccinations that are supposed to be administered for other things, such as tetanus, on a less frequent basis.

Plus what’s been learned since is contracting the disease or getting the vaccines wanes over the years, and measles seems to have the ability to wipe out all immunity to any diseases.

I am never going to forget going through my second case of mumps in 2012, or my second case of scarlet fever in 2008.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:20:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:20:45am

re: #207 Punish Domestic Terrorists

More at Netflix’s ‘Cowboy Bebop’ Is a Flaming Pile of Space Trash (The Daily Beast - Paywalled)

I sat down and watched the first episode of the original CB with my anime-fan daughter. It is quaint and entertaining in its own right but I am not about to waste time on a live-action remake.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:21:40am

The same David brooks (ass) finds an acorn

David Brooks: “Presidents are judged by history, not the distraction and exhaustion of the moment. Did the person in the Oval Office address the core problem of the moment? The Biden administration passes that test. Sure, there have been failures — the shameful Afghanistan withdrawal, failing to renounce the excesses of the cultural left. But this administration will be judged by whether it reduced inequality, spread opportunity, created the material basis for greater national unity.”

“It is doing that

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:21:44am

The XV group founded in 1946 by 15 photographers Left to right and from bottom to top: Robert Doisneau (lying down), Lucien Lorelle, Willy Ronis, Pierre Jehan, Marcel Bovis (in the 1st row); Pierre Auradon,Marcel Amson,Emmanuel Sougez,Séeberger,André Gaban Mrs. Séeberger takes the picture.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:21:56am

re: #214 Belafon

Russia on Friday confirmed 37,156 Covid-19 infections and a new record of 1,254 deaths

which means multiply by a factor of three for the real figures…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:23:59am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:24:25am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus what’s been learned since is contracting the disease or getting the vaccines wanes over the years, and measles seems to have the ability to wipe out all immunity to any diseases.

I am never going to forget going through my second case of mumps in 2012, or my second case of scarlet fever in 2008.

Similarly, shingles is a disease adults can get when the immune response to the chicken pox virus has faded. Which is why there’s a vaccine for it that’s administered to adults. I had chicken pox as a kid, as the kid’s vaccine was then extremely new. I’ll probably be making sure to get the shingles vaccine when I get to be of the age when it is recommended (the US FDA currently recommends it for adults aged 60+).

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:26:32am

re: #223 lawhawk

And it will be reported as though he said something profound or important.

No. What McCarthy did was stall and lie and dissemble, and know that he’s got an audience of know nothings at Fox who will lap up every grievance and bogus claim all while benefiting from the programs they despise. These same GOPers will then go back to their districts to claim that they got those benefits for their residents.

They’re doing it with the infrastructure bill they opposed. They’ll do it here too.

And that means nothing to the media, because both siderism is their ongoing narrative.

That Rick Scott quote I posted above implies tfg trying to get rid of both McCarthy and McConnell and replace them with boot licking death cult acolytes who the Dear Leader endorses…… and in the case of the House speakership, that could mean…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:27:20am

re: #237 Dopamine Fish

Similarly, shingles is a disease adults can get when the immune response to the chicken pox virus has faded. Which is why there’s a vaccine for it that’s administered to adults. I had chicken pox as a kid, as the kid’s vaccine was then extremely new. I’ll probably be making sure to get the shingles vaccine when I get to be of the age when it is recommended (the US FDA currently recommends it for adults aged 60+).

I just had my 2nd shingles shot yesterday. Yes, you need two. Hurts like hell, but no regrets. My dad got shingles, I’ve never seen him suffer or complain until he got shingles. Recommended for those 50 plus. Dr. said they believe the two shots are good until death.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:28:14am

re: #233 Dangerman

The same David brooks (ass) finds an acorn

And still manages to disparage President Biden in the same paragraph.

Sure, there have been failures — the shameful Afghanistan withdrawal, failing to renounce the excesses of the cultural left.

Which party again wanted to invade Afghanistan and which party left Biden with an untenable position there when he took office?

Also, which “excesses” of the cultural left? Equal treatment under the law for everyone, even if they’re afflicted with Teh Geyh or Wimmenz?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:30:23am

re: #237 Dopamine Fish

Similarly, shingles is a disease adults can get when the immune response to the chicken pox virus has faded. Which is why there’s a vaccine for it that’s administered to adults. I had chicken pox as a kid, as the kid’s vaccine was then extremely new. I’ll probably be making sure to get the shingles vaccine when I get to be of the age when it is recommended (the US FDA currently recommends it for adults aged 60+).

I’ve had both of my shingles shots. Both times the shot totally wasted my ass. Muscle aches, lethargy/loss of appetite and a slight fever. The J&J and Moderna booster? A sore arm for a couple of days.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:31:00am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And still manages to disparage President Biden in the same paragraph.

Which party again wanted to invade Afghanistan and which party left Biden with an untenable position there when he took office?

Also, which “excesses” of the cultural left? Equal treatment under the law for everyone, even if they’re afflicted with Teh Geyh or Wimmenz?

I left it intact
I knew you’d catch it if you were still up

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:31:07am

re: #54 Charles Johnson

We are starting to get this instead…

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:32:33am

re: #241 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I thought the shingles vaccine was for 50+. I’m definitely getting it first chance I get. No way I want to get shingles after the horrible case of CP I got as a late teenager.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:33:55am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:34:16am

So, for reasons that I wont get into at this time, I was up at 4am last night, which means I got to catch the lunar eclipse here in northern NJ. It was quite spectacular and was glad to have caught it, even though I didn’t get as much sleep as I would have liked.

No photos as I didn’t have a camera handy.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:36:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:38:42am

PDF of House resolution regarding “Magic Minute” speeches

tl/dr: allows the majority and minority leaders to speak for as long as they wish at the end of a debate on the floor.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:40:17am

McMichael’s attorney tried to reach a plea agreement with the prosecution late yesterday after he got eviscerated on cross examination. The prosecutor declined.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:40:35am

re: #244 lawhawk

I thought the shingles vaccine was for 50+. I’m definitely getting it first chance I get. No way I want to get shingles after the horrible case of CP I got as a late teenager.

It is. I’m 60.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:41:16am

re: #239 I Would Prefer Not To

I just had my 2nd shingles shot yesterday. Yes, you need two. Hurts like hell, but no regrets. My dad got shingles, I’ve never seen him suffer or complain until he got shingles. Recommended for those 50 plus. Dr. said they believe the two shots are good until death.

My wife and I got ours a couple years ago after they first came out. I was sick as hell for several days (same as with the Moderna vaccines and booster).

Still, I’d rather have a few days of miserable from vaccines than a lifetime of regret from disease.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:42:02am

220-209
BBB passes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:42:43am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

220-209
BBB passes

how many on each side crossed over?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:45:13am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

how many on each side crossed over?

one D voted no, don’t know about the Republicans

ETA: 4 Republicans did not vote at all

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:46:46am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

one D voted no, don’t know about the Republicans

ETA: 4 Republicans did not vote at all

oops, some late R “nay” votes trickling in. Just one NV left

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:47:24am

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

PDF of House resolution regarding “Magic Minute” speeches

tl/dr: allows the majority and minority leaders to speak for as long as they wish at the end of a debate on the floor.

McCarthy beat Pelosi’s previous record-setting “Magic Minute” speech from 2018.

Pelosi invokes rarely-used ‘magic minute’ to oppose budget deal, elevate Dreamers (Think Progress, February 7, 2018)

With a rare “both-sides” argument from me, if I’m going to fault McCarthy for this, I would have to fault Pelosi as well.

UPDATE: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has set a new record for the longest continuous speech since at least 1909 in the House of Representatives. She held the floor uninterrupted from 10 a.m. this morning until shortly after 6 p.m — more than eight hours.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) delivered a multi-hour address to her congressional colleagues on Wednesday, in an effort to oppose a two-year bipartisan budget deal struck by Senate leaders hours earlier. The bill notably excluded any mention of or protections for hundreds of thousands of “Dreamers,” undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children.

Beginning at 10:04 a.m. Eastern Time, the senior Democratic House leader used a special privilege called the “magic minute,” which is afforded to party leaders in the House of Representatives and allows them to speak at length without having to filibuster. For more than eight hours, Pelosi stood and read the stories of various Dreamers and recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

(more)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:48:08am

Democrats applauding and chanting “Nancy, Nancy, Nancy”

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:51:25am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pelosi did it for principled reasons and in the light of day.
McCarthy just lied about every aspect of the bill, and did it in the dead of night hoping to delay long enough to get the vote done overnight (they waited until morning).

Once again, McCarthy shows he is an awful tactician and Pelosi schools him at every turn. It’s also good to have facts and reality on your side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:51:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:53:34am

voting now on tabling a motion to reconsider the final vote

ridiculous theater

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:55:25am

On this day in 1969, the Apollo 12 landed on the moon and I landed on earth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:55:59am
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:56:13am

re: #209 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

Someone should warn them about the price of turkey.
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:56:48am

re: #261 Belafon

On this day in 1969, the Apollo 12 landed on the moon and I landed on earth.

Many happy returns!

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:57:55am

re: #261 Belafon

On this day in 1969, the Apollo 12 landed on the moon and I landed on earth.

Well, at least you are real……

//

Happy Birthday!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:59:11am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2021 • 6:59:59am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been sick so I haven’t been keeping up. Glad it passed. Now it goes to the senate to die I guess? I am not at my best so I honestly don’t know.

Whatever this bug is, it’s horrible. Gastrointestinal issues, no appetite and when I get up and move around at all I get out of breath. I had a cough for a couple of days but that is gone. Now I just feel weak and unable to even walk across a room. I’m afraid to go to the doctor because my insurance is awful. I’m supposed to be researching new ACA insurance but I can’t even get to my computer and sit up to do this. I was ok besides the cough until yesterday. I took Cleo out and by the time I got back inside I was out of breath and my heart was pounding. My only choice is a Teladoc appointment which is free, but I am not comfortable with over the phone diagnosis on this one.

I’m scared.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:00:31am

When Pelosi schedules votes for major legislation, it’s because she knows she has the votes. She can count. Don’t bet against her. Ever.

She’s one of the most effective speakers in history.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:00:59am

re: #258 lawhawk

Pelosi did it for principled reasons and in the light of day.
McCarthy just lied about every aspect of the bill, and did it in the dead of night hoping to delay long enough to get the vote done overnight (they waited until morning).

Once again, McCarthy shows he is an awful tactician and Pelosi schools him at every turn. It’s also good to have facts and reality on your side.

I’m just arguing against the claim the magic minute speech filibuster is some sort of nefarious GOP plot.

I realise that McCarthy’s speech included all sorts of disingenuous crap having nothing to do with the bill is pretty low, but not the process itself.

I really need to exit stage close browser now. Catch y’all later.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:00:59am

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:02:02am

re: #261 Belafon

On this day in 1969, the Apollo 12 landed on the moon and I landed on earth.

Happy landing day!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:02:28am

re: #261 Belafon

On this day in 1969, the Apollo 12 landed on the moon and I landed on earth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:04:04am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Joe Biden will receive a routine colonoscopy today while he is undergoing a physical at Walter Reed. The process, which requires anesthesia, means that he will temporarily transfer power to Kamala Harris, who will briefly become the 1st woman President.

Will Trump make jokes about it?

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:07:05am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:08:59am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:09:40am
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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:09:57am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like how Nancy makes them all come in first thing in the morning. No dead of night voting. Screw McCarthy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:10:33am
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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:11:27am

re: #276 Belafon

He’s not as white as Aaron Rodgers…he may get penalized.

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Semper Fi  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:13:02am

re: #267 A Mom Anon

I’ve been sick so I haven’t been keeping up. Glad it passed. Now it goes to the senate to die I guess? I am not at my best so I honestly don’t know.

Whatever this bug is, it’s horrible. Gastrointestinal issues, no appetite and when I get up and move around at all I get out of breath. I had a cough for a couple of days but that is gone. Now I just feel weak and unable to even walk across a room. I’m afraid to go to the doctor because my insurance is awful. I’m supposed to be researching new ACA insurance but I can’t even get to my computer and sit up to do this. I was ok besides the cough until yesterday. I took Cleo out and by the time I got back inside I was out of breath and my heart was pounding. My only choice is a Teladoc appointment which is free, but I am not comfortable with over the phone diagnosis on this one.

I’m scared.

You didn’t mention fever…how’s that going?
Go after this thing, Mom.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:13:18am

Person, woman, man, camera, TV

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:20:12am
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Semper Fi  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:20:59am

re: #276 Belafon

Fake vaccine cards? Reminds me of my brother when seat belt law was passed. He’d grab the belt and pull it across him, to feign wearing it, but wouldn’t snap it together.
Now, years later and luckily still alive, he snaps it together.
I guess that initial ‘objection’ is so important to some.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:24:57am

re: #258 lawhawk

Pelosi did it for principled reasons and in the light of day.
McCarthy just lied about every aspect of the bill, and did it in the dead of night hoping to delay long enough to get the vote done overnight (they waited until morning).

Once again, McCarthy shows he is an awful tactician and Pelosi schools him at every turn. It’s also good to have facts and reality on your side.

And again 4 inch stilettos vs wing tips (assumed)

At least she didn’t have to do it backwards like ginger rogers

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Thanos  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:25:03am

Scofield is masterful! This is not his best but his tribute to Mayfield stays in heavy rotation at my house.

Curtis Knew

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:25:52am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tfg was too embarrassed to have the world know he was having the procedure

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:27:15am

re: #283 Semper Fi

Fake vaccine cards? Reminds me of my brother when seat belt law was passed. He’d grab the belt and pull it across him, to feign wearing it, but wouldn’t snap it together.
Now, years later and luckily still alive, he snaps it together.
I guess that initial ‘objection’ is so important to some.

Some people are just hard-core contrarian.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:28:37am

re: #286 Dangerman

Tfg was too embarrassed to have the world know he was having the procedure

and did it without anesthetic because he did not want to hand over the reins of power to Mike Pence

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:31:22am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:32:29am

re: #279 darthstar

He’s not as white as Aaron Rodgers…he may get penalized.

He’s on Tom Bradys team. He’ll probably skate.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:32:30am

re: #280 Semper Fi

It’s weird. No fever, but there are chills and sweats like a fever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:33:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:37:30am

re: #291 A Mom Anon

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:40:01am

re: #291 A Mom Anon

It’s weird. No fever, but there are chills and sweats like a fever.

My spouse had exactly the same reaction.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:42:17am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:46:26am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:48:11am

re: #294 Scottish Dragon

Do you all have any idea what this crap is? My big worry is just being out of breath from doing anything. If not for that, and being just tired, I would feel pretty normal.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 7:51:15am

re: #297 A Mom Anon

Do you all have any idea what this crap is? My big worry is just being out of breath from doing anything. If not for that, and being just tired, I would feel pretty normal.

She was ok by the next morning but she felt feverish and awful for about 12 hours.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:02:05am

re: #291 A Mom Anon

It’s weird. No fever, but there are chills and sweats like a fever.

Nausea.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:03:57am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my go to: electoral-vote.com

However, the Democrats have the stronger side of the argument, though with their usual bad luck that their side is much more complicated and so is harder to explain to voters. The bill, as currently written, has $80 billion in it for the IRS to more aggressively enforce the tax code. However, the CBO disagrees with the White House as to how much additional revenue that will generate. The CBO thinks that tax cheats will find new and innovative ways to cheat, with the result being that the $80 billion will return $207 billion in additional tax revenue. The White House thinks that the additional revenue will be more like $400 billion.

That’s a difference of nearly $200 billion, and while the White House is likely too optimistic, the CBO is likely too pessimistic. Further, and rather significantly, the CBO included the $80 billion outlay in its figuring but did not include the $207 billion in new revenue. That means that even if the CBO’s more pessimistic figure is correct, the actual amount added to the deficit would be $160 billion… over 10 years. $16 billion per year is pretty much a rounding error when it comes to the federal budget and, again, it could end up being less than that. By way of comparison, the CBO estimated that the Republicans’ tax cut would add roughly $146 billion per year to the deficit (a figure that has proven to be low, thus far). So, Democrats are in a position to respond to Republican complaints about creeping socialism by asking “Oh, you mean our bill that added about 10% as much to the deficit as your tax cut?

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:04:08am

re: #299 Belafon

Nausea.

I had those symptoms the last time my headache turned into a migraine. Then I dry heaved and they went away.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:04:36am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:05:49am

re: #261 Belafon

On this day in 1969, the Apollo 12 landed on the moon and I landed on earth.

Happy B’Day!! Hope you have a good one!

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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:07:47am

re: #298 Scottish Dragon

I’m on day two of this. Hubby is on day four, all he’s got now is feeling tired and shortness of breath. He’s able to eat and stuff, I am still not quite there.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:09:00am

re: #299 Belafon

I had it yesterday, today no appetite but the nausea so far is gone.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:09:35am

re: #303 Patricia Kayden

Happy B’Day!! Hope you have a good one!

It’s a day. Gonna be busy all day, even though I took it off, and it looks like I’m going to have to get a new AC system. It’s 9 years old, but the company i originally bought it from went bankrupt about 5 years ago.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:10:04am

re: #261 Belafon

Happy Birthday!

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:13:16am

Another historical fact: my birth day is after the fist successful transmission of a message proving the internet could work, but just before the fist permanent connection was established.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:13:28am

This is fine, nothing to see here, move along.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:13:51am

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s on Tom Bradys team. He’ll probably skate.

Nah. The league office and Brown have had numerous run ins. If there are grounds to do it, he’ll be suspended without a second thought.

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:15:20am

re: #297 A Mom Anon

Do you all have any idea what this crap is? My big worry is just being out of breath from doing anything. If not for that, and being just tired, I would feel pretty normal.

OK: First, the usual DISCLAIMER about relying on random (even if well-meaning and sympathetic) Internet acquaintances for medical advice…

If the bronchial symptoms have abated, what it sounds like (to my medically untutored mind) is what used to be called a “stomach flu” - though I’m sure that there is some fancy Latinate term an MD would use - the lack of bronchial suffering and the negative COVID tests seem positive on that count, but it definitely sounds like the Family Anon have all got the same sort of “bug”. Which, if COVID is ruled out, means (IMWAGO) some sort of intestinal flu (?).
Though the “out of breath” issue seems anomalous. If you can’t make it to a doctor in person, telemedicine might be the best alternative for now: they will be able to give you a better analysis than I (Duh!!!!)
{{{Mon Anon}}}

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:32:18am

re: #217 lawhawk

For those who are getting vaccinated, this is sensible next step. For the antivaxxers, they see this as proof vaccines don’t work, even though most vaccines usually get boosters because immunity wanes over time.

I plan on getting the booster when I’m at my six month point.

It is becoming increasingly clear that there is no way to escape getting covid if you are an idiot who will not get vaccinated. This will be circulating round and round in waves until everyone is exposed at some time in their life, the question is “Do you fell lucky, punk?” and the answer is the same - what happens is up to you. Get fully vaccinated, whatever the guidance based on the best evidence is.

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gwangung  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:40:44am

re: #312 BlueSpotinAL

It is becoming increasingly clear that there is no way to escape getting covid if you are an idiot who will not get vaccinated. This will be circulating round and round in waves until everyone is exposed at some time in their life, the question is “Do you fell lucky, punk?” and the answer is the same - what happens is up to you. Get fully vaccinated, whatever the guidance based on the best evidence is.

I think it’s under appreciated that you can get re-infected by covid. Having the bug will not stop you from getting it again 12 or so months down the line. We’ve seen re-infections out in the wild, and we see re-infection for coronaviruses in general.

“Natural immunity” isn’t going to save them….

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:47:01am

Fact check: true

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:47:11am

re: #313 gwangung

I think it’s under appreciated that you can get re-infected by covid. Having the bug will not stop you from getting it again 12 or so months down the line. We’ve seen re-infections out in the wild, and we see re-infection for coronaviruses in general.

“Natural immunity” isn’t going to save them….

plus the ‘long haul’ possibilities and the organ damage risks….

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plansbandc  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:47:14am

re: #261 Belafon

Happy Birthday!

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:48:22am

re: #313 gwangung

I think it’s under appreciated that you can get re-infected by covid. Having the bug will not stop you from getting it again 12 or so months down the line. We’ve seen re-infections out in the wild, and we see re-infection for coronaviruses in general.

“Natural immunity” isn’t going to save them….

Add to that the fact that how serious your first case is says nothing about how serious it will be the next time. Could be nothing, could kill you.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:49:10am

And happy birthday to Belafon!

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:49:40am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:50:38am

re: #313 gwangung

I think it’s under appreciated that you can get re-infected by covid. Having the bug will not stop you from getting it again 12 or so months down the line. We’ve seen re-infections out in the wild, and we see re-infection for coronaviruses in general.

“Natural immunity” isn’t going to save them….

Again, it goes back to people thinking that once they’ve had the disease, they’re immune for life. The media haven’t really reported on reinfections, but it seems obvious to me, on the face of it, that there is an appreciably large subset of the unvaccinated community that got sick in 2020 from the original variant, and is now getting sick again in 2021 from the Delta variant. I would love to see some statistics on this, because I’m guessing it’s not insignificant.

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gwangung  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:56:12am

re: #315 Dangerman

re: #317 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

re: #320 Dopamine Fish

Yup, yup, yup.

It’s not a complete crap shoot; B-cell and T-cell response is going to help the body, but they’re no guarantee against serious illness. And you will still spread.

And the long-covid is completely unknown…a re-infection could still lead to long covid.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 8:56:23am

re: #320 Dopamine Fish

Again, it goes back to people thinking that once they’ve had the disease, they’re immune for life. The media haven’t really reported on reinfections, but it seems obvious to me, on the face of it, that there is an appreciably large subset of the unvaccinated community that got sick in 2020 from the original variant, and is now getting sick again in 2021 from the Delta variant. I would love to see some statistics on this, because I’m guessing it’s not insignificant.

people think they’re smarter that the professionals

Some diseases, like the measles, infect us once and usually grant us immunity for life. For others, like the flu, we have to get vaccinated year after year.

So why do we develop lifelong immunity to some diseases but not others? And where does the novel coronavirus fit into all this?

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:01:19am

re: #319 Scottish Dragon

And this:

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:02:37am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:02:48am

When we were at Johnson Space Venter a few years ago, we took this of me pointing at the date:

To the moon and back
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:03:40am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:05:25am

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Manchin: With all deliberate speed.

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JC1  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:06:46am

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s on Tom Bradys team. He’ll probably skate.

It’s also just an accusation by a former employee who has a beef with Brown.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:12:06am

re: #238 Dangerman

That Rick Scott quote I posted above implies tfg trying to get rid of both McCarthy and McConnell and replace them with boot licking death cult acolytes who the Dear Leader endorses…… and in the case of the House speakership, that could mean…

I just read an article that if the repubs take back the house, Greene and Bobert are going to get choice committee assignments.

Fabulous.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:16:18am

Disgusting.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:18:48am

Florida has recorded at least 3,676,634 confirmed COVID cases and 60,846 deaths.

miamiherald.com

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:19:01am

re: #325 Belafon

When we were at Johnson Space Venter a few years ago, we took this of me pointing at the date:

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Nice shirt

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:19:15am

re: #325 Belafon

When we were at Johnson Space Venter a few years ago, we took this of me pointing at the date:

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who’s gonna say it…..??

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:20:16am

re: #329 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I just read an article that if the repubs take back the house, Greene and Bobert are going to get choice committee assignments.

Fabulous.

seniority be damned; tantrum your way to the top

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A Cranky One  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:20:48am

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ipsos  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:23:10am

re: #325 Belafon

Happy birthday!

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:25:15am

re: #325 Belafon

Happy birthday! I was sitting on the den floor at the time, (in the now-antiquated role of channel changer) watching the landing coverage.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:28:10am

re: #237 Dopamine Fish

Similarly, shingles is a disease adults can get when the immune response to the chicken pox virus has faded. Which is why there’s a vaccine for it that’s administered to adults. I had chicken pox as a kid, as the kid’s vaccine was then extremely new. I’ll probably be making sure to get the shingles vaccine when I get to be of the age when it is recommended (the US FDA currently recommends it for adults aged 60+).

If you had chicken pox, the virus lies inactive in your body and can be triggered by stress or a weakened immune system. Apparently if you had the chicken pox vaccine, your odds of getting shingles are significantly reduced by 78%, but it’s still possible.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:42:36am
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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:46:25am

re: #339 HRH Stanley Sea

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Now we have proof Kamala can be in charge and the world does not end! //

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:46:36am

re: #258 lawhawk

Pelosi did it for principled reasons and in the light of day.
McCarthy just lied about every aspect of the bill, and did it in the dead of night hoping to delay long enough to get the vote done overnight (they waited until morning).

Once again, McCarthy shows he is an awful tactician and Pelosi schools him at every turn. It’s also good to have facts and reality on your side.

McCarthy is handicapped: he is the House leader of a party led by a vindictive racist, whose only goals are demeaning the poor and people of color, enriching the wealthy, and promoting alternative “facts”, that have no relationship to the truth. To retain power, McCarthy must kowtow to that leader and so is unable to use his position to espouse ideas and programs that help our nation.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:47:17am

re: #261 Belafon

A very Happy Birthday on BBB day!

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:52:30am

re: #340 Rightwingconspirator

Now we have proof Kamala can be in charge and the world does not end! //

But there’s totally a rift between them, don’t ya know.///

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:53:47am

re: #261 Belafon

The moon landing is one of my earliest memories. We were camping near Salt Lake City and my parents rented a motel room for the night so we could watch the landing on TV. I was sitting in my mother’s lap looking at the bw TV screen and she told me “That’s the man on the moon”. I was just 2 years old.

Happy Birthday!

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:54:54am

re: #324 jaunte

This is what Klain was responding to…someone shitting on the medical savings.

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2021 • 9:59:20am

re: #340 Rightwingconspirator

Now we have proof Kamala can be in charge and the world does not end! //

And how do we KNOW that?
Who knows what she might have done in her hour in charge: sell the country to George Soros/the Illuminati/(((the International Rootless-Cosmopolitan Conspiracy)))????

// but I’m sure some idiot CT will pop up to posit just that before too long.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:00:04am

re: #309 Dopamine Fish

NEW: Wisconsin Republicans are staging an all-out assault on the state’s election systems, trying to oust, eliminate and bypass the bipartisan WI elections commission and threatening jail for its commissioners so they can take total control for themselves.

The GOP is well on its way to being a position to simply disqualify any election results it disagrees with in states that it controls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:01:55am
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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:02:46am

lol, never change wingnuts!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:03:22am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

is this supposed to be satirical political commentary? It is simply the sound of a sad old man feeling threatened.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:04:28am

re: #349 b.d. (The war is over)

lol, never change wingnuts!

People come and people go, but the crazy always remains the same.

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JC1  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:04:54am

Jury reportedly reached a verdict in the Rittenhouse trial. Should be read shortly.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:05:04am

re: #345 darthstar

This is what Klein was responding to…someone shitting on the medical savings.

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really?
$20B over 10 years? that’s an effing rounding error

and ‘guessed’??? ffs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:05:33am

re: #349 b.d. (The war is over)

Democrats blurred out the presidential seal in a video with Kamala Harris to avoid misusing it in material that was not official government business. The rule-following move was rewarded with new conspiracy theories about how Biden isn’t really president!

If they had not blurred it out, there would have been theories as well that Biden is no longer President, that he has been replaced by a lizard android and Kamala the Chameleon Lady is now running America from the comfort of her favorite stick.

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:05:36am

re: #346 Jay C

And how do we KNOW that?
Who knows what she might have done in her hour in charge: sell the country to George Soros/the Illuminati/(((the International Rootless-Cosmopolitan Conspiracy)))????

// but I’m sure some idiot CT will pop up to posit just that before too long.

hell half of them probably still dont know it happened

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:06:23am

And yet Trump still uses the Presidential Seal and no one seems to give a shit.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:06:27am
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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:07:39am

re: #352 JC1

Jury reportedly reached a verdict in the Rittenhouse trial. Should be read shortly.

Just turned it on…the judge looks as nervous as Rittenhouse does.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:08:53am

It’s good to see Rittenhouse finally looking scared. Fuck that little motherfucker.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:10:04am

re: #359 darthstar

It’s good to see Rittenhouse finally looking scared. Fuck that little motherfucker.

Hope his fear is justified but sadly it’s not likely to be.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:10:22am

re: #360 Hecuba’s daughter

Hope his fear is justified but sadly it’s not likely to be.

Let this be one time where we’re all pleasantly surprised.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:10:40am

re: #359 darthstar

It’s good to see Rittenhouse finally looking scared. Fuck that little motherfucker.

We have come a ways from Emmet Till and lynch mobs but we still have incidents like this and the Ahmaud Arbery killing.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:11:42am

Waiting for the verdict like…

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:12:40am

Rittenhouse verdict coming down…

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:13:23am

bloomberg / bernstein

“Could the whole thing still fall apart? Sure. The House shouldn’t be a problem; after having voted yes on Friday (and in preliminary votes even earlier) there’s little incentive to kill the bill when it returns. But all it takes is a single Democratic senator to bring everything down. Still, it does seem unlikely that events would have reached this stage without some confidence that Manchin and Sinema would be on board, and one would imagine that those senators would have given more of an indication long before now if they intended to oppose final passage. Which gets back to the point about shared incentives: Even as both Manchin and Sinema have strong electoral incentives to establish themselves as clearly more moderate than the party, they also have incentives for the party to thrive overall.”

“So it sure looks likely that some version of Build Back Better, modified by the Senate, will wind up passing. And if that happens, this will have been (for better or worse) one of the most productive Congresses in a long time. With one year remaining to do more.”

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:13:50am

Fuck…not guilty.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:09am

re: #366 darthstar

Fuck…not guilty.

I mean, we all knew it was coming.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:20am

re: #366 darthstar

Fuck…not guilty.

was not expecting a guilty verdict

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Dangerman  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:30am

desantis learning that ETTD and it may not have been worth sacrificing all those people

“In a matter of months, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has gone from being a shining example in Donald Trump’s eyes of a MAGA leader molded in his image to an average politician who forgot his roots as he rose to Republican stardom,” CNN reports.

“People close to both men first noticed the palpable shift in Trump’s posture toward DeSantis earlier this year as enthusiasm for the Florida governor swelled among donors and GOP operatives who praised his laissez-faire response to the Covid-19 pandemic. The more DeSantis’ popularity soared, the more obsessed Trump became with receiving credit for his political celebrity.”

what a petty little man

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:37am

Fuck it!

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ipsos  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:41am

Well, that was a fucking travesty.

Exactly as expected.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:43am

re: #366 darthstar

Fuck…not guilty.

Good to know it’s legal to kill people in America now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:43am

re: #362 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have come a ways from Emmet Till and lynch mobs but we still have incidents like this and the Ahmaud Arbery killing.

The issue is not evil people committing evil actions but whether the police and legal system are complicit in that evil.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:14:49am

Not guilty

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:15:37am

I am utterly disgusted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:15:48am

Let me guess: Fox already has Rittenhouse booked for tonight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:15:53am

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

The issue is not evil people committing evil actions but whether the police and legal system are complicit in that evil.

They were certainly complicit in lynchings and racial murders back then, too…and STILL ARE

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:15:59am

All counts not guilty

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:16:21am

re: #376 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me guess: Fox already has Rittenhouse booked for tonight.

Already has a slot lined up for his news show

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:16:29am

Man, I hope the Prosecutors appeal this bullshit.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:16:31am

Welcome to America, where apparently you’re free to go be a vigilante and nobody will care, as long as you’re white.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:17:04am

re: #381 Dopamine Fish

Welcome to America, where apparently you’re free to go be a vigilante and nobody will care, as long as you’re white.

George Zimmerman liked this post.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:17:09am

May his future be as rewarding as George Zimmerman’s.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:17:14am

The only thing I have to say about the verdict is that little Kyle learned nothing and will get in trouble again. Probably very soon. Fuck him.

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danarchy  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:17:23am

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, I hope the Prosecutors appeal this bullshit.

You can not appeal a not guilty verdict unless there is evidence of jury tampering or if the judge had taken a bribe.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:17:38am

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, I hope the Prosecutors appeal this bullshit.

There is no legal option for them to appeal any of this.

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nines09  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:17:41am

Justice dies in courts such as that.
Insane.
Maybe they could book him for littering spent cartridges and victims blood in the street.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:17:55am

re: #385 danarchy

You can not appeal a not guilty verdict unless there is evidence of jury tampering or if the judge had taken a bribe.

That’s fucked up. That Judge was biased as all hell.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:18:02am

re: #382 Eclectic Cyborg

That POS hasn’t profited from his crime, and I hope Rittenhouse takes the same trip down the toilet.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:18:47am

re: #349 b.d. (The war is over)

lol, never change wingnuts!

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Reading through the replies, even Democrats can’t quite grasp it. I see many people that wouldn’t understand

Are you sure?
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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:19:01am

re: #385 danarchy

You can not appeal a not guilty verdict unless there is evidence of jury tampering or if the judge had taken a bribe.

Does a case of free MyPillows and some signed Ricky Schroder memorabilia count as a bribe?

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:19:37am

re: #366 darthstar

Fuck…not guilty.

The white guy gets away with shooting a person in the back. Again. While “hunting” on a city street.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:19:40am

White vigilantes rejoice

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Semper Fi  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:19:43am

I’m sure the gunnies like this message:

“Don’t mess with the guy who is carrying a gun.”

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:20:35am

re: #394 Semper Fi

I’m sure the gunnies like this message:

“Don’t mess with the guy who is carrying a gun.”

It’s effectively become open season for the open-carry assholes. They can shoot anybody now with impunity, as long as they can make a reasonable case that they had a good reason to do it. Video evidence be damned.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:20:40am

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, I hope the Prosecutors appeal this bullshit.

That as well as the Feds now stepping in. Criminal Civil Rights charges should be leveled against this little fuck.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:20:40am

re: #386 Hecuba’s daughter

There is no legal option for them to appeal any of this.

Feds can file gun charges for his straw gun purchase

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:21:11am

GAG.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:21:30am

re: #396 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

That as well as the Feds now stepping in. Criminal Civil Rights charges should be leveled against this little fuck.

Real unlikely from what I understand. I believe federal firearms charges can be brought, though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:23:29am

I feel terrible for the families of the victims.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:24:28am

re: #399 Scottish Dragon

Real unlikely from what I understand. I believe federal firearms charges can be brought, though.

I’ll take anything that’ll land that little fuck behind bars.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:24:32am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel terrible for the families of the victims people who were affected.

FTFY

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:24:40am

Let’s not forget that the jury consultant who got OJ his acquittal worked this case. If you have the financial resources, you can buy a jury.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:25:47am

re: #403 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s not forget that the jury consultant who got OJ his acquittal worked this case. If you have the financial resources, you can buy a jury.

OJ was also acquitted because the Prosecution fucked up the case.

Oh and Mark Fuhrman.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:26:42am

re: #394 Semper Fi

I’m sure the gunnies like this message:

“Don’t mess with the guy who is carrying a gun.”

Bingo, it’s open season now. Rittenhouse will soon be a political leader on the right.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:27:06am
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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:28:52am

I’ve said this before, Wisconsin is full of terrible people.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:29:11am

No surprise. This is why I am an armed leftist.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:30:35am

re: #407 Amory Blaine

I’ve said this before, Wisconsin is full of terrible people.

Joseph McCarthy, Ron Johnson, and Scott Walker are perfect examples.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:31:01am

re: #409 Hecuba’s daughter

Cream rises to the top.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:31:08am

re: #408 William Lewis

No surprise. This is why I am an armed leftist.

Endorse.

These ppl absolutely think they should be able to kill us in the streets. Welcome to ‘Bleeding Kansas’ 2.0

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:31:59am

I am just sickened.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:32:15am

I remember all sorts of predictions of federal charges against Zimmerman after he was acquitted. Nothing came of them other than a lot of disappointment and further bitterness. The lesson of the day is that money can buy you a verdict.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:32:49am

re: #413 Targetpractice

Yeah I don’t see a lot of win with straw purchase charges.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:33:00am

re: #372 Eclectic Cyborg

Good to know it’s legal to kill people in America now.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:33:33am

re: #414 Amory Blaine

Yeah I don’t see a lot of win with straw purchase charges.

Realistically, if the feds do bring any charges, I expect a plea bargain down to a fine at most.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:33:38am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

Much as I hate to admit it, he’s got a point.

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Thanos  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:34:21am

re: #413 Targetpractice

…and when it can’t buy you a verdict it can keep you from hard time:

nytimes.com

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:34:29am

re: #413 Targetpractice

I remember all sorts of predictions of federal charges against Zimmerman after he was acquitted. Nothing came of them other than a lot of disappointment and further bitterness. The lesson of the day is that money can buy you a verdict.

Zimmerman had a legal weapon and civil rights charges have a super high burden.

Rittenhouse crossed state lines to obtain a weapon from a straw buyer that he could not legally purchase. That’s a federal crime.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:35:30am

re: #406 Scottish Dragon

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Make sure white people show up to do the carrying.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:35:46am

So’s insurrection.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:35:46am

re: #419 Scottish Dragon

Zimmerman had a legal weapon and civil rights charges have a super high burden.

Rittenhouse crossed state lines to obtain a weapon from a straw buyer that he could not legally purchase. That’s a federal crime.

And like I said, the most he’ll face is a fine, if the feds bother to bring charges at all.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:38:50am

“A jury of his peers”

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:39:02am

The next Rittenhouse will be charging into the crowd shouting ‘SELF DEFENSE’ with guns a-blazing.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:39:51am

re: #422 Targetpractice

And like I said, the most he’ll face is a fine, if the feds bother to bring charges at all.

Unclear if anyone will bother.

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:40:09am

re: #422 Targetpractice

And like I said, the most he’ll face is a fine, if the feds bother to bring charges at all.

He’ll be Matt Gaetz’ guest at the SOTU in January.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:40:17am
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DodgerFan1988  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:40:52am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:40:54am

re: #424 darthstar

The next Rittenhouse will be charging into the crowd shouting ‘SELF DEFENSE’ with guns a-blazing.

I mean, the very term “self-defense” is basically meaningless now. When I took taekwondo classes, I was always taught that I WOULD be arrested if I hit anybody in public, because as a tall man, I was expected not to feel threatened enough to use force by anybody unless they had a weapon. But now, who cares? As long as I can cry on cue and explain how scared I was when I hit the other guy, I can get away with murder! LITERALLY!

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:41:22am

re: #413 Targetpractice

I remember all sorts of predictions of federal charges against Zimmerman after he was acquitted. Nothing came of them other than a lot of disappointment and further bitterness. The lesson of the day is that money can buy you a verdict.

I don’t think it had anything to do with money. That judge was driven by ideology.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:41:43am

re: #408 William Lewis

No surprise. This is why I am an armed leftist.

And why I just purchased 300 more round of ammo

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:42:22am

re: #424 darthstar

The next Rittenhouse will be charging into the crowd shouting ‘SELF DEFENSE’ with guns a-blazing.

I think more and more lib and left leaning folks are going to start arming. This sort of thing will make it inevitable.

I’ve been ambivalent about getting a CCW but this is pushing me hard towards getting one. I’m not going to be a target for a punk, and I’ve already been stalked and threatened.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:44:37am

re: #428 DodgerFan1988

Yep, the prosecution did it’s ultimate job.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:45:56am

re: #424 darthstar

The next Rittenhouse will be charging into the crowd shouting ‘SELF DEFENSE’ with guns a-blazing.

The next Rittenhouse will be escorted by local police in order to murder people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:47:34am

re: #408 William Lewis

No surprise. This is why I am an armed leftist.

As I much as it pains to me to say it, I feel I’m at the point where I should probably get a gun for my safety.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:47:46am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:48:28am

re: #436 The Pie Overlord!

Begun, the Race Wars have.

(And yes, I know it’s actually been raging for a long time)

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:48:41am

I think we need pie…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:50:07am

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

My initial comment was meant to be sarcasm/satire. Obviously most of us would (theoretically anyway) face a considerable penalty if we actually shot someone in the street.

My concern is next time there is a major racial protest, will white vigilantes feel more emboldened because of this ruling?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:50:42am

re: #437 Dopamine Fish

Begun, the Race Wars have.

(And yes, I know it’s actually been raging for a long time)

Before abandoning hope, let’s see what happens in the Ahmaud Arbery case where the judge isn’t a defense attorney.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:50:56am

re: #435 Eclectic Cyborg

As I much as it pains to me to say it, I feel I’m at the point where I should probably get a gun for my safety.

Do it but find an instructor and learn to carry responsibly. If you have questions feel free to ask.

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wrenchwench  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:51:13am

re: #342 Hecuba’s daughter

A very Happy Birthday on BBB day!

Beard Back Better day.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:51:16am

re: #435 Eclectic Cyborg

As I much as it pains to me to say it, I feel I’m at the point where I should probably get a gun for my safety.

Huge decision. Make sure you are comfortable with that and get training.

The statistic that gun owners are more likely to die from their own weapon is very real. It’s why I have put off getting a handgun. (I own a lot of rifles TBF)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:51:39am

ASSHOLES UNITE

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:52:20am

re: #441 William Lewis

Do it but find an instructor and learn to carry responsibly. If you have questions feel free to ask.

Thank you for the offer, but I’ve owned guns before. I’ve got it covered.

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Mattand  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:53:01am

This might be what finally pushes me to buy a gun and get training. This really codifies the idea that white people can shoot whoever they want.

I can only imagine how many cops are genuinely okay with this outcome.

What’s stopped me at this point is I’m assuming that most gun ranges are owned by populated with 2nd Amendment MAGAts who I eventually will say something to and most likely get shot by.

I’ve been doing half-assed searches in Google for “liberal gun ranges” with little success.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:53:10am

re: #431 Eventual Carrion

And why I just purchased 300 more round of ammo

I don’t have the money this paycheck but I can see I’ll be rearranging the budget priorities for the next couple of months. I see an AK and a couple of 640 round spam cans in my future.

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EPR-radar  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:53:50am

re: #436 The Pie Overlord!

As expected, Rittenhouse will be a 21st century Horst Wessel, without the martyrdom.

449
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:54:21am

Genuine anti-fascists have been holding back a lot. The gates are open.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:54:54am

re: #445 Eclectic Cyborg

Thank you for the offer, but I’ve owned guns before. I’ve got it covered.

Didn’t remember and always prefer safety. < thumbs up >

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:57:26am

re: #449 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Genuine anti-fascists have been holding back a lot. The gates are open.

No it isn’t. Only those killing others to support white supremacy have a blank check.

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William Lewis  Nov 19, 2021 • 10:57:58am

re: #446 Mattand

Around here are publicly owned ranges; 20-mile drive but it’s open to everyone.

The other option is if any of your friends have a few acres of land that you can use.

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aatharuv  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:00:45am

I was about to comment that Joe Walsh has basically come over to the right side (at least for non-economic issues) most of the time after seeing this:

but then I saw this

But what do I know? In this bizarro land, going across state lines with guns that he shouldn’t have, to act as a “medic” and telling people he wanted to shoot looters is sufficient to let you claim you shot in self-defense.

(Edit: as was pointed out in the replies, he had been given the gun after entering Kenosha.)

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:01:08am

They’re going to be found not guilty because that’s the kind of country we’re in now.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:01:54am

re: #454 DodgerFan1988

They’re going to be found not guilty because that’s the kind of country we’re in now.

Interesting that they asked for a plea deal, though. Perhaps that case isn’t quite as dismal as the Rittenhouse farce.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:02:23am

re: #454 DodgerFan1988

They’re going to be found not guilty because that’s the kind of country we’re in now.

Prosecutors wouldn’t reject a request for a plea deal unless they thought they had a good chance of getting a conviction, no?

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:02:54am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:03:15am

re: #446 Mattand

This might be what finally pushes me to buy a gun and get training. This really codifies the idea that white people can shoot whoever they want.

I can only imagine how many cops are genuinely okay with this outcome.

What’s stopped me at this point is I’m assuming that most gun ranges are owned by populated with 2nd Amendment MAGAts who I eventually will say something to and most likely get shot by.

I’ve been doing half-assed searches in Google for “liberal gun ranges” with little success.

Find a pink pistols or left gun group in your area.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:04:18am

re: #432 Scottish Dragon

I think more and more lib and left leaning folks are going to start arming. This sort of thing will make it inevitable.

I’ve been ambivalent about getting a CCW but this is pushing me hard towards getting one. I’m not going to be a target for a punk, and I’ve already been stalked and threatened.

If they’re starting, they’re much too late.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:04:50am

re: #456 Eclectic Cyborg

Prosecutors wouldn’t reject a request for a plea deal unless they thought they had a good chance of getting a conviction, no?

Of course.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:05:52am

re: #453 aatharuv

I was about to comment that Joe Walsh has basically come over to the right side (at least for non-economic issues) most of the time after seeing this:

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But what do I know? In this bizarro land, going across state lines with guns that he shouldn’t have, to act as a “medic” and telling people he wanted to shoot looters is sufficient to let you claim you shot in self-defense.

He didn’t carry a gun across state lines; someone gave it to him while he was there. Did he actually tell people that he wanted to shoot looters? I haven’t heard that specific claim.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:06:05am

re: #452 William Lewis

Around here are publicly owned ranges; 20-mile drive but it’s open to everyone.

The other option is if any of your friends have a few acres of land that you can use.

That’s were I am lucky. There is ~400 acre of farm and woods behind my dads place. And 140 acre of land on the property that I was born on and it is still in the family (aunt and uncle own it now). I have plenty of room for practice.

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plansbandc  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:06:32am

re: #372 Eclectic Cyborg

If you’re white.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:06:51am

re: #453 aatharuv

I was about to comment that Joe Walsh has basically come over to the right side (at least for non-economic issues) most of the time after seeing this:

But what do I know? In this bizarro land, going across state lines with guns that he shouldn’t have had to act as a medic and telling people he wanted to shoot looters counts as self-defense.

It is probably the “correct” verdict under the law. And therein lies the problem. At the end of the day, the takeaway is this: In most of the US, as long as you are the one left standing when the smoke clears, you walk.

TL;DR version: Dead men tell no tales.

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EPR-radar  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:07:08am

re: #455 Dopamine Fish

Interesting that they asked for a plea deal, though. Perhaps that case isn’t quite as dismal as the Rittenhouse farce.

IMO an acquittal in the Arbery case would be as bad (or perhaps even worse) than an acquittal in the Chauvin case would have been.

Legally (but not morally), the Rittenhouse case was a much closer call. Especially with the exclusion of the evidence about Rittenhouse’s attitudes and motives from the trial.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:07:10am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:09:53am

re: #451 Hecuba’s daughter

No it isn’t. Only those killing others to support white supremacy have a blank check.

I DIDN’T SAY A GODDAMN THING ABOUT A BLANK CHECK FOR KILLING. Antifascists wouldn’t cash it if I did. There is going to be pushback though, its nature will be a surprise to many, and it is about time.

Btw, I don’t know what your problem with me really is, but I am fed up with your constant sniping, your fake moralizing judgement, and your chickenshit pedantry.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:11:37am

re: #461 Hecuba’s daughter

He didn’t carry a gun across state lines; someone gave it to him while he was there. Did he actually tell people that he wanted to shoot looters? I haven’t heard that specific claim.

Yes he did.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:11:40am
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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:11:54am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:12:25am

Take it private people. We just went through this crap earlier this week. If you got a beef with someone, do it in private. That’s why Charles gave us the option.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:13:18am

Okay, folks. I know this verdict has a lot of us really distraught. For good reason; this is, in many ways, a complete validation of the right-wing fever dream of what they call a “good guy with a gun”. If you feel yourself getting heated about it, take a step back. The last thing we need is to fight here and now.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:14:49am

re: #467 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Oh dear. Lets calm down everyone. Tempers are hot right now and I’ve said things on here once or twice that Charles had to admonish me about a few years back.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:15:15am

re: #472 Dopamine Fish

Okay, folks. I know this verdict has a lot of us really distraught. For good reason; this is, in many ways, a complete validation of the right-wing fever dream of what they call a “good guy with a gun”. If you feel yourself getting heated about it, take a step back. The last thing we need is to fight here and now.

This right here

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A Cranky One  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:16:12am

re: #446 Mattand

This might be what finally pushes me to buy a gun and get training. This really codifies the idea that white people can shoot whoever they want.

I can only imagine how many cops are genuinely okay with this outcome.

What’s stopped me at this point is I’m assuming that most gun ranges are owned by populated with 2nd Amendment MAGAts who I eventually will say something to and most likely get shot by.

I’ve been doing half-assed searches in Google for “liberal gun ranges” with little success.

My grandparents taught me to hunt. Decided shooting rabbits and squirrels wasn’t for me (my grandparents ate everything they killed).

Was in my mid 60s before I owned a gun. But felt the danger from the RWNJs was not to be ignored.

Bought a short barrelled 12 gauge pump action for self/home protection. Didn’t want a pistol in the house.

Not happy about a firearm in the house or about feeling it was necessary to have one. But let’s face it, they’re a lot of scary people out there who are armed to the teeth.

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aatharuv  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:16:31am

re: #461 Hecuba’s daughter

He didn’t carry a gun across state lines; someone gave it to him while he was there. Did he actually tell people that he wanted to shoot looters? I haven’t heard that specific claim.

Thanks for the correction on the first

On the second, he did a couple of weeks previous to the Kenosha shooting, but the jury wasn’t allowed to see that:

Kyle Rittenhouse was recorded weeks before the Kenosha shooting saying he wished he ‘had my f—-ing AR’ to shoot at people leaving CVS, prosecutors say

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:18:08am

re: #472 Dopamine Fish

Okay, folks. I know this verdict has a lot of us really distraught. For good reason; this is, in many ways, a complete validation of the right-wing fever dream of what they call a “good guy with a gun”. If you feel yourself getting heated about it, take a step back. The last thing we need is to fight here and now.

“Good guys with guns” are asking to be shot.
cnn.com

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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:18:38am

re: #341 Hecuba’s daughter

“McCarthy is handicapped.” Really, that said it all. :-)

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:20:17am

Peace to us all, give us the strength of calm for things we cannot change.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:21:34am
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Semper Fi  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:22:15am

Don’t mind me if I’m thinking out-of-school but isn’t there a consideration the cops go by called Reasonable and Proper? I think a similar consideration should be applied to carrying a gun. Is it Reasonable and Proper to carry a gun while walking down the middle of the street headed in the general direction of a crowded disturbance?

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:24:18am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:25:02am

re: #467 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:25:30am

Nobody should be surprised. But we should be pissed the fuck off.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:26:15am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:29:24am
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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:30:21am

re: #484 GlutenFreeJesus

Nobody should be surprised. But we should be pissed the fuck off.

We should be surpissed.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:31:59am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:33:03am

I come out of a meeting to this utter bullshit.

Fuck Republicans.

Fuck Fox.

Fuck all of them.

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The GOP is a terrorist organization  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:37:06am

Maybe someone addressed this here and I missed it, but why didn’t the prosecution request the judge recuse himself after he demonstrated a clear bias in favor of the defense? From not allowing the shooting victims to be described that way to disallowing video of Rittenhouse saying he was there to shoot some rioters, these and other actions made this trial a farce.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:40:13am

re: #483 Hecuba’s daughter

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I expect that some nutcase somewhere is going to shoot up some RWers. Our response will have to be to disavow this. Other methods of pushback should be on the table though. We shall see.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:40:25am

When you ask a judge to recuse, when you accuse him of bias, he’s the one who decides whether or not he should.

If you’re the defendant trying to set up for a later appeal, it’s worth it. If you’re the prosecutor, you’re just pissing him off and it’ll get worse for you.

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A Cranky One  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:42:27am

re: #480 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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Re the earlier discussions about film vs digital, I spent many hours in the darkroom. It was owned by the guy teaching me. One of his primary interests was creating archival quality prints and even back then he was complaining about the archival quality papers disappearing.

When going through my mom’s estate, we found many very old photos of previous generations and family as kids. One of my brothers (who definitely qualifies as a guru) was able to digitize and fix damaged photos. So that history was saved.

But here is the dilemma:

We had prints that were over 100 years old. I’d consider those an archival storage medium.

How archival is digital? Formats change, readers change. Will we have 100 year old photos available in the future?

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:42:45am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 19, 2021 • 11:48:50am

re: #493 A Cranky One

Re the earlier discussions about film vs digital, I spent many hours in the darkroom. It was owned by the guy teaching me. One of his primary interests was creating archival quality prints and even back then he was complaining about the archival quality papers disappearing.

When going through my mom’s estate, we found many very old photos of previous generations and family as kids. One of my brothers (who definitely qualifies as a guru) was able to digitize and fix damaged photos. So that history was saved.

But here is the dilemma:

We had prints that were over 100 years old. I’d consider those an archival storage medium.

How archival is digital? Formats change, readers change. Will we have 100 year old photos available in the future?

That depends on whether we remain a technological society or not. Post-collapse hunter-gatherers are not going to have Internet or even PCs, but if we keep the lights on, the data can be available forever.


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