Jury Finds All 3 Men Guilty of Murder in Ahmaud Arbery’s Death

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Our justice system has failed recently in spectacular, dispiriting ways, but today there was real justice for the three white men who hunted down and murdered Ahmaud Arbery in February 2020.

BRUNSWICK, Ga. — The three men who chased and killed Ahmaud Arbery in coastal Georgia last year were convicted of murder Wednesday, in a case that once went 74 days without arrests and that many saw as a test of racial bias in the justice system.

The decision was read to the court shortly after 1:30 p.m., following less than two days of deliberations. Members of Arbery’s family cried out with joy.

Travis McMichael, his father, Greg McMichael, and their neighbor William “Roddie” Bryan were all convicted of felony murder in the shooting of Arbery, a 25-year-old Black man — meaning they committed felonies that caused his death. They were also found guilty of aggravated assault, false imprisonment and attempt to falsely imprison. But Bryan and the elder McMichael were acquitted of malice murder, which involves intent to kill. Each defendant now faces a potential penalty of life in prison without parole.

All men still face federal hate crime charges.

This was another case in which the right wing tried like hell to smear the victim and taint the jury. They failed — this time.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 24, 2021 • 11:50:00am

Finally some good news.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 11:52:01am

As I noted downstairs, the one thing we have to remember on this day is that, if it hadn’t been for the accomplice’s attorney having his head up his ass and thinking that leaking the video of that day would bolster his client’s defense, the state of Georgia would have let all three walk on claims of “self-defense.”

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 11:52:39am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

Finally some good news.

Hell, this is great news!

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darthstar  Nov 24, 2021 • 11:54:53am

Georgia penalties:
Malice Murder - mandatory life sentence
Felony Murder - mandatory life sentence
Felony may get parole option but in both cases there’s a 30 year minimum before parole eligibility.

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gocart mozart  Nov 24, 2021 • 11:59:29am
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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 11:59:31am

re: #4 darthstar

Georgia penalties:
Malice Murder - mandatory life sentence
Felony Murder - mandatory life sentence
Felony may get parole option but in both cases there’s a 30 year minimum before parole eligibility.

IOW, they’re gonna die in prison. I think austin is right downstairs, they’ll likely plead to the fed charges so that they can be housed in Club Fed instead of general population back home.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 24, 2021 • 11:59:59am
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darthstar  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:02:59pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

IOW, they’re gonna die in prison. I think austin is right downstairs, they’ll likely plead to the fed charges so that they can be housed in Club Fed instead of general population back home.

Fuck ‘em. Feds can drop the charges.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:14:51pm
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Belafon  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:20:35pm

Stairs and ladder are the same word in Spanish. I wonder why we have two different words.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:22:47pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

As I noted downstairs, the one thing we have to remember on this day is that, if it hadn’t been for the accomplice’s attorney having his head up his ass and thinking that leaking the video of that day would bolster his client’s defense, the state of Georgia would have let all three walk on claims of “self-defense.”

There is no way any of us can know this, and the pessimists around here don’t have a great track record anyway. But you have to find some way to rain on everyone’s parade, don’t you? We might be tempted to be happy about a good outcome or something.

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mmmirele  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:24:49pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

IOW, they’re gonna die in prison. I think austin is right downstairs, they’ll likely plead to the fed charges so that they can be housed in Club Fed instead of general population back home.

It’s possible the Feds may not bring charges in the name of judicial economy. Hard to say.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:25:38pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:26:07pm

re: #12 mmmirele

It’s possible the Feds may not bring charges in the name of judicial economy. Hard to say.

They’re pretty busy with the insurrection defendants at the moment.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:26:43pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:26:57pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Who among us doesn’t keep an address book?

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retired cynic  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:27:24pm

What Was the Iran-Contra Affair? A Political Scandal That Engulfed the Reagan White House
We’re still living with the consequences of this ’80s scandal.
by Zeb Larson, good old teenvogue.com

Not real long, but lays it out clearly for those who weren’t screaming at the time. Like me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:29:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:31:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:34:06pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:34:48pm

re: #11 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

There is no way any of us can know this, and the pessimists around here don’t have a great track record anyway. But you have to find some way to rain on everyone’s parade, don’t you? We might be tempted to be happy about a good outcome or something.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:36:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:37:09pm

jeebus

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gocart mozart  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:38:01pm
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gwangung  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:39:33pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

I think I might excuse the first prosecutor; they did the right thing.

I have nothing but contempt for the other two.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:42:40pm

re: #25 gwangung

I think I might excuse the first prosecutor; they did the right thing.

I have nothing but contempt for the other two.

She actually has been indicted for criminal charges in the case, in part because she stopped law enforcement from arresting the perps.

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gwangung  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:43:37pm

re: #26 No Malarkey!

She actually has been indicted for criminal charges in the case, in part because she stopped law enforcement from arresting the perps.

Ugh. Then I take that back. The entire office needs to be cleared out.

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gocart mozart  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:44:18pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:44:54pm

re: #26 No Malarkey!

She actually has been indicted for criminal charges in the case, in part because she stopped law enforcement from arresting the perps.

Yeah, the only real heroes in this story are the prosecutors who saw this through from the moment charges were filed to today. Before that video went public, the state of Georgia was satisfied with the claims of “self-defense” and was prepared to declare that Arbery was at fault for his own death.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:45:50pm

the ratio, lol!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:47:06pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:49:06pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a set of those, because I inherited my mother’s kitchen. They are terrific.

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BigPapa  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:50:25pm

I desire a La Creuset.

I have a fance Staub cast iron and I use it all the time. Doesn’t cook any better than a $25 cast iron but it’s pretty blue and it’s enameled so you don’t have to worry about rust or seasoning. If you cook a lot like I do the good stuff is worth having.

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steve_davis  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:53:10pm

re: #10 Belafon

Stairs and ladder are the same word in Spanish. I wonder why we have two different words.

because english is a mixture of old danish, old french, latin, and old english. we have an enormous word hoard to draw on. and yes, I have a 250 dollar clay casserole pot in my kitchen. It costs that because I can cook on the stove with it and then shove it in the oven with no issues. the idea that spending 300 bucks on cookware is somehow outrageous is an indication that someone doesn’t spend much time in a kitchen.

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Belafon  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:54:51pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

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Isn’t the normal homicide conviction rate in the US around 40%?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:56:03pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:57:12pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I RTFA earlier and apparently the “crime” is not the expensive cookware, it’s that she bought them in France when her boss is promoting “buy American.” Apparently we’re supposed to believe that if she’d dropped the same amount of money in an American store, they would have been cool with it and even supportive of her decision.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:57:13pm

Baker got his pardon after his family held a fundraiser ($21,500) for Bevin

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 12:58:44pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

I RTFA earlier and apparently the “crime” is not the expensive cookware, it’s that she bought them in France when her boss is promoting “buy American.” Apparently we’re supposed to believe that if she’d dropped the same amount of money in an American store, they would have been cool with it and even supportive of her decision.

hahahahahahahaahaaaaa

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Charles Johnson  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:03:28pm

I’ve never heard of this piece of garbage.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:05:46pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

I’ve never heard of this piece of garbage.

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Mold. They spread like mold. Apparently someone somewhere said the word “accident” about the murderous truck killings and these guys exploded in fake outrage causing it to briefly trend.

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William Lewis  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:06:37pm

re: #32 retired cynic

I have a set of those, because I inherited my mother’s kitchen. They are terrific.

My ex has the Le Creuset. I have the cast iron. Honestly, I feel I got the better of the deal but that has a lot to do with our cooking styles.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:09:03pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:09:03pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

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Eppur si muove.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:09:43pm

eeeeewwwwwww

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Belafon  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:10:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:11:22pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

I’ve never heard of this piece of garbage.

Texas “comedian”

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No Malarkey!  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:19:20pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Yeah, the only real heroes in this story are the prosecutors who saw this through from the moment charges were filed to today. Before that video went public, the state of Georgia was satisfied with the claims of “self-defense” and was prepared to declare that Arbery was at fault for his own death.

It was very suspicious of him to try to escape armed white men chasing him in pickup trucks with a confederate license plate./

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Belafon  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:19:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:19:43pm
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No Malarkey!  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:21:11pm

re: #39 nines09

Look at this brain. A Star!

James D. Beeks, 49, stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 as an “affiliate of the Oath Keepers,” investigators said.

Very in character of Judas to commit treason.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:21:40pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seriously. VP Harris could have toured an American factory making cookware and then dropped a grand at the nearest outlet selling them and they would still find a reason to whine.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:21:46pm

re: #45 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Eppur si muove.

I’m thrilled that you’ve a way more optimistic view of the justice system in Georgia than…well, most everybody else. I would think that three DAs putting their thumbs on the scale, such that one of them is now facing criminal charges for doing so, would be evidence enough that the state did not want to prosecute these men and would have avoided doing so except for the actions of one dumbass.

I sort of thought we figured out this lesson when folks saw the initial press release in the Floyd murder that presented the murder of a man by a cop in broad daylight as a “medical incident” until the video was publicized.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:26:23pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

I’m thrilled that you’ve a way more optimistic view of the justice system in Georgia than…well, most everybody else. I would think that three DAs putting their thumbs on the scale, such that one of them is now facing criminal charges for doing so, would be evidence enough that the state did not want to prosecute these men and would have avoided doing so except for the actions of one dumbass.

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I sort of thought we figured out this lesson when folks saw the initial press release in the Floyd murder that presented the murder of a man by a cop in broad daylight as a “medical incident” until the video was publicized.

The last time I looked, both of the cases had ended in convictions. Why do you have to keep thinking of reasons that shouldn’t have happened?

ETA: When the case is one person’s word against another’s with no other evidence, it doesn’t matter who they are, the benefit of the doubt should always go to the accused. That’s what “beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty” means. Just another reason it was so hard to convict cops in the times before we all carried cameras.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:26:58pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:30:06pm

re: #55 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

The last time I looked, both of the cases had ended in convictions. Why do you have to keep thinking of reasons that shouldn’t have happened?

…what?

Where did I say that shouldn’t have happened? I said it wouldn’t have happened if not for the actions of an attorney thinking he was helping his client’s case by leaking the video the state was concealing to the public. And all the evidence so far indicates that that is exactly what the state of Georgia was prepared to allow happen.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:30:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:32:11pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:33:51pm

re: #58 No Malarkey!

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First day on the job and she has a gun pointed at her head by an irate customer mad that his shitty pizza was not instantly available.

But her boss will still expect her to either work the rest of her shifts this week or find somebody to cover for her.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:33:55pm

And here’s how this might have gone if TFG was still around:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:34:53pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

First day on the job and she has a gun pointed at her head by an irate customer mad that his shitty pizza was not instantly available.

But her boss will still expect her to either work the rest of her shifts this week or find somebody to cover for her.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:37:18pm

re: #61 Eclectic Cyborg

Random capitalization…. check
Small vocabulary… check
Multiple Misspellings… Nope you missed that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:37:51pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hell, any pizza place SHOULD take at least 10 minutes to get you a pie…if not a bit longer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:38:13pm

re: #63 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Random capitalization…. check
Small vocabulary… check
Multiple Misspellings… Nope you missed that.

I’m a bit rusty, okay? My bad.

:P

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:38:21pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

The asshole who did this deserves that AK in his, well, asshole. This has to stop.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:40:08pm

I have some half-formed ideas of what I might do if some kid reached into his backpack and pulled out a pistol and started firing. None of them at all realistic, though.

Sorry, context: I’m often in confined spaces with large groups of 18-21 yos.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:41:24pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

Hell, any pizza place SHOULD take at least 10 minutes to get you a pie…if not a bit longer.

At Little Caesar’s, they have the “hot and ready” pizzas that are supposed to be just walk in and get one (basically, plain cheese or pepperoni that they keep in the warmer up to a certain point in the night). My guess is, he came in at slam time or shortly after, and they didn’t have enough backfill in the hot and ready queue.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:41:33pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good on her, but the cynic in me knows that her manager’s pissed because now they have to have somebody cover those shifts.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:43:01pm

Holy shit, I’m crying. This was up here, too.

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BigPapa  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:47:03pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

Oh, my heart is full.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:51:30pm
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Florida Panhandler  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:53:55pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

Holy shit, I’m crying. This was up here, too.

Just trying to work out in my brain how you could have worked in Butthole surfers. dead Kennedys would have been a great one to let them know you’re a Q-nut.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 1:56:21pm

re: #73 Florida Panhandler

Just trying to work out in my brain how you could have worked in Butthole surfers. dead Kennedys would have been a great one to let them know you’re a Q-nut.

Yeah, someone mentioned Dead Kennedys in the comments and I slapped my forehead for not thinking of it myself.

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gocart mozart  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:06:51pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:08:51pm

It’s so adorable that Vance thinks he still has a chance. That he keeps trying to split the difference between “Full Metal Wingnut” and “Family Friend Fascism.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:08:53pm
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Romantic Heretic  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:09:21pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

You would think a Russian troll, or a troll who buys the Russian’s bullshit, would use something other than ‘Son of’ in his Twitter handle.

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darthstar  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:09:36pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

Leak ‘em all.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:11:30pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course, now we’re at the point that any evidence of racist or sexist stuff on the outtakes will only give him more cred with his craptastic base.

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BigPapa  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:12:13pm

re: #79 darthstar

Leak ‘em all.

Yeah, not sure I want to see that tape.

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nines09  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:15:10pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

Criminal enterprise wherever they are. No bottom. Parasites.Ticks. Blood suckers.

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A Cranky One  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:18:09pm

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:19:01pm

re: #52 No Malarkey!

Takes method acting a bit far, don’t you think? //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:22:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:27:12pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:28:26pm
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darthstar  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:30:08pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:32:01pm
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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:38:55pm

Happy Pre-Thanksgiving!

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A Cranky One  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:40:31pm

re: #90 prairiefire

Happy Pre-Thanksgiving!

I’m still thawing.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:42:20pm

Ha! We ordered catering, doncha know, quite posh for 5!

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Belafon  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:47:35pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:47:37pm

I wish I could meet Alexandra Petri to ask her how she got so goddamned funny.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:49:12pm

re: #92 prairiefire

This is the first year I can’t cook. Physically can’t. So hubby is disappointed and decided to make sloppy Joe’s for him and the kid. We’ll do bird related dinner when I can stand without getting out of breath and feeling so weak.

I’m just so sad. Cleo needs a bath, my house is just gross, and I can barely make it to the kitchen without getting weak and tired. I can’t afford the ER, my doctors office is closed for the week, and I am so tired of shit going wrong. So tired.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:50:40pm

re: #90 prairiefire

Happy Pre-Thanksgiving!

It is Vodka O’clock yet?

/

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:51:27pm

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

It is Vodka O’clock yet?

/

I have a bottle of Aviation gin that says yes.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:52:00pm

(A Mom Anon). Very sorry. I imagine you’ve already tried over the counter stuff. Don’t push yourself. Don’t look at the clutter. Huuuugs

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BigPapa  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:53:46pm

This will be my first totally dry holiday. Walked through Costco wine section last night… I had a moment.

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darthstar  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:54:48pm

re: #92 prairiefire

Ha! We ordered catering, doncha know, quite posh for 5!

We fly to Palm Springs in the morning - no time to cook. Told my brother and sister in law to order from Bristol Farms market - they finally did and found out BF had 500 TG orders already. So they have a 10am pick up tomorrow and I’ll bet it still takes them 2 hours.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:56:09pm

re: #97 Dopamine Fish

I have a bottle of Aviation gin that says yes.

I have a liter of Monopolowa (real potato Wodka) which will soon be a Cranberry Cordial for then X-mas season.

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gocart mozart  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:56:11pm
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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:56:54pm

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:57:55pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

Is that Cujo on the right?

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:58:03pm

re: #100 darthstar

If that’s the right winger, he can wait his turn in line!

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 2:58:17pm

re: #101 austin_blue

I have a liter of Monopolowa (real potato Wodka) which will soon be a Cranberry Cordial for then X-mas season.

We are spending part of tomorrow with Mrs. Fish’s family. We stocked up in advance, knowing we will hear many things we will want to un-hear by the end of the event. Events transpired that resulted in some of it being opened for consumption a little early.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:00:41pm

The so-called critics are complaining about VP Harris buying LeCreuset. I got myself the big 7.25 quart Dutch Oven a little while ago. I love it.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:00:52pm

Samuel Smith Winter Wellcome

One of the best ales ever.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:01:30pm

re: #106 Dopamine Fish

We are spending part of tomorrow with Mrs. Fish’s family. We stocked up in advance, knowing we will hear many things we will want to un-hear by the end of the event. Events transpired that resulted in some of it being opened for consumption a little early.

Get a can of aerosol Thorazine and just give ‘em a little spritz if they act up. Easy Peasy!

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A Cranky One  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:01:34pm

re: #95 A Mom Anon

This is the first year I can’t cook. Physically can’t. So hubby is disappointed and decided to make sloppy Joe’s for him and the kid. We’ll do bird related dinner when I can stand without getting out of breath and feeling so weak.

I’m just so sad. Cleo needs a bath, my house is just gross, and I can barely make it to the kitchen without getting weak and tired. I can’t afford the ER, my doctors office is closed for the week, and I am so tired of shit going wrong. So tired.

Life sucks sometimes.

Keep in mind that holiday traditions aren’t necessary for the spirit of the holiday. My kids and grandkids always see the extended family on their mom’s side. So we started a tradition of all my kids/grandkids getting together at one daughter’s home and having pizza the day after Thanksgiving.

It’s such a joy to see all my kids and grandkids together, interacting and enjoying family. Don’t get many opportunities to do that.

And the best part is we aren’t concerned or stressed about a dinner. After all: pizza!

Oh and my spouse has a magnet on the fridge that says “a clean house is a sign of a wasted life”.

;-)

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:02:07pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

The so-called critics are complaining about VP Harris buying LeCreuset. I got myself the big 7.25 quart Dutch Oven a little while ago. I love it.

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I adore mine. I was telling my daughter she could put my ashes in the Dutch Oven, but she’ll probably need to use it.

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BigPapa  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:02:09pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

That buggah is beautiful.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:02:36pm

re: #103 prairiefire

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:04:22pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

The so-called critics are complaining about VP Harris buying LeCreuset. I got myself the big 7.25 quart Dutch Oven a little while ago. I love it.

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We have two LeCreuset pots. They are great. My only complaint is that the black thingy in the center of the lid comes loose for both, so we’re constantly rescrewing it in.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:04:29pm

{{{A Mom Anon}}}

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:05:55pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:06:35pm

re: #114 Barefoot Grin

You can get knob replacements (steel) from amazon.

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A Cranky One  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:07:02pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

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Belafon  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:09:37pm
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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:09:37pm

re: #107 PhillyPretzel

The so-called critics are complaining about VP Harris buying LeCreuset. I got myself the big 7.25 quart Dutch Oven a little while ago. I love it.

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I’ve got 16 pieces of Le Creuset, not counting the lids, anywhere from 10 to 40 years old.

It lasts pretty much forever and cooks a treat. As far as value is concerned, you have to amortize the costs to determine the value over time, and include the cost of the food that the cookware *doesn’t* ruin. When you look at it that way, Le Creuset is dead cheap.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:10:10pm

This is seriously the kindest and most amazing group of humans. I am thankful for all of you. Even when I don’t agree and we fuss and fight with each other. I wish I lived closer to you. All of you. I just don’t know what to say to convey how much your kindness, your love, your support and just giving a damn means.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:12:44pm

re: #120 austin_blue

Exactly. If you buy the good stuff it will last and you will not have to replace pots and pans all the time. I also have All-Clad, Calphalon, and Lodge.

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:15:46pm

re: #121 A Mom Anon

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:20:20pm

re: #114 Barefoot Grin

We have two LeCreuset pots. They are great. My only complaint is that the black thingy in the center of the lid comes loose for both, so we’re constantly rescrewing it in.

Get a couple of lock washers

zoro.com

and you’ll never have that problem again.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:20:26pm

re: #122 PhillyPretzel

I just don’t really want to cook much anymore. With the kids out of the house, I don’t care. I’m taking a break in my 25 year career of being a short order cook.

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darthstar  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:21:32pm

re: #105 prairiefire

If that’s the right winger, he can wait his turn in line!

They’re all right wingers…this one at least knows how to behave around liberals.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:23:05pm

re: #122 PhillyPretzel

When we first got married, my in-laws got me a set of Wolfgang Puck cookware. Stainless, copper bottoms, sturdy and will outlast me for sure. I love them even if they can be hard to clean sometimes. Barkeepers Friend is my buddy when cleaning them. Since my family is so small now, I only use the deep frying pan, the Dutch oven and colander, and the three saucepans. Worth whatever they paid for them.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:27:47pm

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:30:55pm

re: #127 A Mom Anon

When we first got married, my in-laws got me a set of Wolfgang Puck cookware. Stainless, copper bottoms, sturdy and will outlast me for sure. I love them even if they can be hard to clean sometimes. Barkeepers Friend is my buddy when cleaning them. Since my family is so small now, I only use the deep frying pan, the Dutch oven and colander, and the three saucepans. Worth whatever they paid for them.

Well, we looked at a Volvo because they are high quality, durable vehicles, but the Yugo was such a damn good value, we couldn’t resist!

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:30:59pm

re: #99 BigPapa

This will be my first totally dry holiday. Walked through Costco wine section last night… I had a moment.

IIRC, a couple of years ago you posted a turkey recipe.

If it was you, want to thank you as that resulted in a well done moist meat bird.

I’ve used it ever since.

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BigPapa  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:33:35pm

re: #130 BeenHereAwhile

Awesome! I’m pro-moist turkey every holiday season.

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A Cranky One  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:33:39pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:35:09pm

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

It is Vodka O’clock yet?

/

Lets see a bottle of Stolichnaya, a bottle Crown Royal, a 18 pack of 16 oz Natural Ice and weed. This old bird aint leaving the house until Monday at the earliest.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:35:22pm

re: #123 Renaissance_Man

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gocart mozart  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:35:46pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:38:37pm

re: #95 A Mom Anon

This is the first year I can’t cook. Physically can’t. So hubby is disappointed and decided to make sloppy Joe’s for him and the kid. We’ll do bird related dinner when I can stand without getting out of breath and feeling so weak.

I’m just so sad. Cleo needs a bath, my house is just gross, and I can barely make it to the kitchen without getting weak and tired. I can’t afford the ER, my doctors office is closed for the week, and I am so tired of shit going wrong. So tired.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:40:44pm

It takes all three of us to handle the petite little lady in the right hand corner.

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Cheechako  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:42:08pm

Don’t forget:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:42:55pm

re: #95 A Mom Anon

This is the first year I can’t cook. Physically can’t. So hubby is disappointed and decided to make sloppy Joe’s for him and the kid. We’ll do bird related dinner when I can stand without getting out of breath and feeling so weak.

I’m just so sad. Cleo needs a bath, my house is just gross, and I can barely make it to the kitchen without getting weak and tired. I can’t afford the ER, my doctors office is closed for the week, and I am so tired of shit going wrong. So tired.

I’m sorry you’re feeling so poorly. I hope your kid appreciates Dad making the sloppy Joes though.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:45:36pm

I used to sell cast iron out of my bike shop, because my husband used to recondition and find the provenance on lots of cast iron. I learned a few things.

The only serious downside to the ceramic covered LeCreuset wares is for people who want to bake bread in a preheated hunk of iron. I talked with a woman who liked to toss a proofed dough-being into a hot dutch oven, and she cracked the ceramic right out of her LeCreuset.

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A Cranky One  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:45:47pm

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gocart mozart  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:47:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:47:38pm

re: #111 prairiefire

I adore mine. I was telling my daughter she could put my ashes in the Dutch Oven, but she’ll probably need to use it.

VP Harris might not even have bought it for herself, but as a gift for someone.

This “ohmygawdallthismoneyonFrenchcookware” seems an awful lot like wingnut outrage over Rep. Ocasio-Cortez and her “ohmygawdallthismoneyaSocialistspendingonclothes.”

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:48:09pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He’s ok with anything you set in front of him, mostly. He’s out with friends tonight, having dinner and seeing live music, he’s got amazing friends who adore him, which is definitely something to be thankful for. ❤️

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:48:14pm

re: #135 gocart mozart

Funhouse
@BackAftaThis
Snoop buys a nail gun. Definitely on the Mount Rushmore of ‘The Wire’ scenes, if not #1.

The guy at the box store quickly figured out - he best go with the flow.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:53:33pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They of the goldgilt toilets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:54:26pm

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

It is Vodka O’clock yet?

/

No, it’s Rum O’clock.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:56:10pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

I used to sell cast iron out of my bike shop, because my husband used to recondition and find the provenance on lots of cast iron. I learned a few things.

The only serious downside to the ceramic covered LeCreuset wares is for people who want to bake bread in a preheated hunk of iron. I talked with a woman who liked to toss a proofed dough-being into a hot dutch oven, and she cracked the ceramic right out of her LeCreuset.

I don’t bake with Le Creuset, fortunately. That’s why Dog made Lodge cast-iron.

Also, for frying chicken, Lodge is killer bee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:56:46pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 3:59:00pm

re: #148 austin_blue

I don’t bake with Le Creuset, fortunately. That’s why Dog made Lodge cast-iron.

Also, for frying chicken, Lodge is killer bee.

I think Lodge is the only American mfg. left, but I don’t know whether they still make them here. Mr. w is a fan of Erie, being from that area himself, and their descendant, Griswold.

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Dangerman  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:00:22pm

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No, it’s Rum O’clock.

Malbec o’clock around here

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:00:55pm

re: #109 austin_blue

Get a can of aerosol Thorazine and just give ‘em a little spritz if they act up. Easy Peasy!

It has been decades since I was with any of my family for holidays as I’m permanently disinvited.

My wife was disinvited by her family in Missouri after we went to a funeral of one of her step-brothers.

All holidays are just her and me.

That means tomorrow’s ham is all for us, along with all the rye bread she made today.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:02:35pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mmm, fresh bread.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:02:37pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

I think Lodge is the only American mfg. left, but I don’t know whether they still make them here. Mr. w is a fan of Erie, being from that area himself, and their descendant, Griswold.

Erie was last made in 1907, Griswold in 1957.

These interwebs are amazing!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:04:29pm

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No, it’s Rum O’clock.

Fine. Just tell me when it’s Zero Vodka Thirty.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:05:25pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

I think Lodge is the only American mfg. left, but I don’t know whether they still make them here. Mr. w is a fan of Erie, being from that area himself, and their descendant, Griswold.

A few years ago Lodge was still making their better stuff in South Pittsburg (no ‘h’) Tennessee. Had a great outlet store.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:05:36pm

The students in question who viewed it have been sentenced to hard labour.

News of the video got around the school and one of the students turned them all in.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:05:54pm

re: #154 austin_blue

Erie was last made in 1907, Griswold in 1957.

These interwebs are amazing!

Mr. w would use ebay to set prices, as they were the competition, but he never sold on the internet. He loved doing research on line.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:05:59pm

I just connected my new flat RJ45 cable and both adapters are working. I think there might have been something wrong with the old cable.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:06:33pm

I have a Crock Pot braise pot and a Lodge cast iron skillet. My only complaint is that they are heavy!

I find I am using an All-Clad skillet instead of the Lodge because it is so much easier to work with.

I don’t own a Le Creuset product but I have had some in my Wish List for about forever. I’ll have to check the Black Friday sales.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:06:34pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My middle brother can expertly turn me inside out with rage, but we’re fine as long as we aren’t living under the same roof.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:07:09pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

A few years ago Lodge was still making their better stuff in South Pittsburg (no ‘h’) Tennessee. Had a great outlet store.

Lodge is still there.

In fact, they are adding a new foundry at that location.

Also, a quick Google search gets this:

Finex, Lancaster, Lodge, Smithey, Stargazer, and The Field Company’s pans are made in the USA. Though Lodge produces the most affordable skillets on the list, each of the other manufacturers has a unique take on making cast iron cookware.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:07:21pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

A few years ago Lodge was still making their better stuff in South Pittsburg (no ‘h’) Tennessee. Had a great outlet store.

Birmingham Stove and Range was one of my favorites. Nice handle designs.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:09:45pm

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

I have a Crock Pot braise pot and a Lodge cast iron skillet. My only complaint is that they are heavy!

I find I am using an All-Clad skillet instead of the Lodge because it is so much easier to work with.

I don’t own a Le Creuset product but I have had some in my Wish List for about forever. I’ll have to check the Black Friday sales.

I used ‘exercise’ as a selling feature more than once. Hey, it was a bike shop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:12:30pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:13:20pm

On our leaf-peeping trailer trip, we stopped at the Trader Joe in Huntsville. Enjoying a Venetian Six-Buck Chuck.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:14:00pm

Well at the serious risk of being shunned, I gave all the cast iron Becky had away to my brother. Never liked cooking with it and it was taking up cabinet space. He was more than happy to take it off my hands. Some of it was in need of serious cleaning and seasoning when it went out the door.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:14:56pm

re: #53 A Mom Anon

Seriously. VP Harris could have toured an American factory making cookware and then dropped a grand at the nearest outlet selling them and they would still find a reason to whine.

If I’m in France & have the money, I’m buying all the cookware. Come on!!

Got Moderna booster Tues am. Like the 1st two, zero effect. Nada. Praise dog.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:16:19pm

re: #167 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well at the serious risk of being shunned, I gave all the cast iron Becky had away to my brother. Never liked cooking with it and it was taking up cabinet space. He was more than happy to take it off my hands. Some of it was in need of serious cleaning and seasoning when it went out the door.

It’s always better to pass it on than to leave it under the porch. Good job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:16:22pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:18:46pm

I did go for a jog. I’ll feel it tomorrow.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:18:52pm

re: #124 austin_blue

Get a couple of lock washers

zoro.com

and you’ll never have that problem again.

Thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:19:54pm
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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:20:06pm

re: #167 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well at the serious risk of being shunned, I gave all the cast iron Becky had away to my brother. Never liked cooking with it and it was taking up cabinet space. He was more than happy to take it off my hands. Some of it was in need of serious cleaning and seasoning when it went out the door.

One of the disadvantages of cast iron is that it needs to be *used*.

If it sits in a cabinet for six months, the seasoning begins to get really nasty, and the cookware needs to be scoured and re-seasoned. This is much more common in warmer climates. It’s a pain in the ass. The seasoning gets sticky and stinks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:21:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:21:17pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

I did go for a jog. I’ll feel it tomorrow.

Progress, nonetheless.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:21:38pm

re: #174 austin_blue

One of the disadvantages of cast iron is that it needs to be *used*.

If it sits in a cabinet for six months, the seasoning begins to get really nasty, and the cookware needs to be scoured and re-seasoned. This is much more common in warmer climates. It’s a pain in the ass. The seasoning gets sticky and stinks.

Season with mineral oil for storage. Or all the time. It doesn’t go rancid.

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jeffreyw  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:23:33pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

I think Lodge is the only American mfg. left, but I don’t know whether they still make them here. Mr. w is a fan of Erie, being from that area himself, and their descendant, Griswold.

fieldcompany.com Big sale buy 2 get 1 free

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:23:38pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:24:18pm
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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:24:34pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

Season with mineral oil for storage. Or all the time. It doesn’t go rancid.

I’ve heard that, but I’ve got to tell you, cooking on petroleum jelly has never been high on my list.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:24:43pm

re: #174 austin_blue

One of the disadvantages of cast iron is that it needs to be *used*.

If it sits in a cabinet for six months, the seasoning begins to get really nasty, and the cookware needs to be scoured and re-seasoned. This is much more common in warmer climates. It’s a pain in the ass. The seasoning gets sticky and stinks.

Yep. Like I said, some of that stuff was in need of some serious TLC.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:25:15pm

re: #178 jeffreyw

fieldcompany.com Big sale buy 2 get 1 free

Nice, thanks!

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:26:17pm

I’m not dry this holiday season, but I have taken a liking to some Portuguese wines that are 11% and under. Pavao Vinho Verde and Casal Garcia Vinho Verde. Most people prefer these chilled for summer, but I like them right now at our chilled room temp.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:27:40pm

re: #181 austin_blue

I’ve heard that, but I’ve got to tell you, cooking on petroleum jelly has never been high on my list.

It lacks the mid-century cachet of polytetrafluoroethylene.
en.wikipedia.org

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mmmirele  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:28:31pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

So much wrong with Candace’s thinking. With so many high schoolers taking AP courses to boost their GPAs, a 4.3 is very good, but it’s not super. And there are other factors involved.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:28:33pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The students in question who viewed it have been sentenced to hard labour.

News of the video got around the school and one of the students turned them all in.

No doubt many future Trump Youth dream of turning in teachers and students discussing CRT come 2024.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:30:52pm

re: #174 austin_blue

Gosh, I hate that smell. I don’t use it enough to warrant, although I did have a excellent ci wok on a stand over an open flame gas stove. Loved the flash cooking.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:32:09pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

It lacks the mid-century cachet of polytetrafluoroethylene.
en.wikipedia.org

I love science.

[…]An early use was in the Manhattan Project as a material to coat valves and seals in the pipes holding highly reactive uranium hexafluoride at the vast K-25 uranium enrichment plant in Oak Ridge, Tennessee.[8]

In 1954, Collette Grégoire, the wife of French engineer Marc Grégoire, urged him to try the material he had been using on fishing tackle on her cooking pans. He subsequently created the first PTFE-coated, non-stick pans under the brand name Tefal (combining “Tef” from “Teflon” and “al” from aluminium).[9] In the United States, Marion A. Trozzolo, who had been using the substance on scientific utensils, marketed the first US-made PTFE-coated pan, “The Happy Pan”, in 1961.

[…]

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:32:13pm

I wonder how the Warmbier family feels about this.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:32:52pm

re: #184 Barefoot Grin

I’m not dry this holiday season, but I have taken a liking to some Portuguese wines that are 11% and under. Pavao Vinho Verde and Casal Garcia Vinho Verde. Most people prefer these chilled for summer, but I like them right now at our chilled room temp.

Vinho Verde’s are delicious summertime wines.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:33:18pm

Back when dinosaurs roamed Pittsburgh (with an ‘h’), poor kids swallowed a glob of Vaseline for a sore throat. If it was accompanied by head congestion, we pulled out the big gun—oral Vick’s Vapo-Rub.

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gwangung  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:33:27pm

re: #186 mmmirele

So much wrong with Candace’s thinking. With so many high schoolers taking AP courses to boost their GPAs, a 4.3 is very good, but it’s not super. And there are other factors involved.

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Biggest factor is that colleges are giving way more money for financial need, because college is so damn expensive.

And did you note that the kid got into one or two of the selective colleges? That means she’s competitive with the student body, but not a slam dunk—-NOBODY is. And that her family makes at least six figures, because a family that doesn’t is going to get financial aid to make up for it.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:34:17pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

It lacks the mid-century cachet of polytetrafluoroethylene.
en.wikipedia.org

I will not cook on Teflon either. That shit’ll kill ya!

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:35:45pm

re: #194 austin_blue

I will not cook on Teflon either. That shit’ll kill ya!

Teflon: Breakfast of champions. Been using it for decades. Guess you’ll have to ask Mrs. Fish how fucked up it’s left me.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:36:25pm

re: #191 austin_blue

Vinho Verde’s are delicious summertime wines.

I only learned of them a couple of years ago. I used to be able to get Picpoul, which I guess is a French version, for about $6 ten years ago, but now it’s about $13 here. But these remain cheap and low alcohol. I think they’re refreshing in deep autumn too.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:38:37pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:39:33pm

re: #194 austin_blue

I will not cook on Teflon either. That shit’ll kill ya!

I’m 77, it better pick up the pace. We were the kids that used mercury for silly-putty and chewed roofing tar for poor-kid chewing gum.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:39:55pm

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Back when dinosaurs roamed Pittsburgh (with an ‘h’), poor kids swallowed a glob of Vaseline for a sore throat. If it was accompanied by head congestion, we pulled out the big gun—oral Vick’s Vapo-Rub.

Vick’s was also great to rub under you nose if you were doing an autopsy on a floater.

Or so I’ve seen in the movies.

I just remember having my chest slathered with that shit when I was a kid. Made me tear up and swoon.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:41:26pm

re: #197 The Pie Overlord!

Who are you? What have you sacrificed?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:41:43pm

OK what pie? Can’t do both, there are only 2 of us.
Lemon Meringue
Chocolate Cream

202
Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:42:04pm

re: #197 The Pie Overlord!

Damned for All Time.

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:43:24pm

re: #201 The Pie Overlord!

OK what pie? Can’t do both, there are only 2 of us.
Lemon Meringue
Chocolate Cream

Pecan!

204
PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:43:39pm

re: #201 The Pie Overlord!

Indulge. Chocolate Cream.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:44:02pm

re: #202 Decatur Deb

Damned for All Time.

Ok, now I’ve got to play it!

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austin_blue  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:44:46pm

re: #203 austin_blue

Pecan!

Okay, lemon meringue. It’ll cut the fat from the rest of the meal.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:44:58pm

re: #201 The Pie Overlord!

OK what pie? Can’t do both, there are only 2 of us.
Lemon Meringue
Chocolate Cream

Both. I’ll be right over to leave you with the Lemon Meringue.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:45:46pm

re: #201 The Pie Overlord!

OK what pie? Can’t do both, there are only 2 of us.
Lemon Meringue
Chocolate Cream

Wife is doing lemon meringue tomorrow—our tiny tree produced 3 dozen large lemons this year. It’s his favorite when Grandson1 comes.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:47:20pm

All of this takes me back to our family stereo and me with big headphones listening to:
Godspell, Jesus Christ Superstar, The Carpenters, Carole King Tapestry, Tommy by the Who, Rolling Stones Greatest Hits, the Beatles Blue and Red Greatest Hits albums.

But I knew those Godspell and JCS albums inside and out.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:47:33pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:47:52pm

re: #197 The Pie Overlord!

Makes sense. Traitor playing a traitor.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:49:03pm

re: #210 The Pie Overlord!

Strong uncle Rico vibes.

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EPR-radar  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:49:40pm

re: #186 mmmirele

Academic full ride scholarships for undergraduates are very rare birds, compared to full rides for other reasons (athletics, connections, financial etc.). So Klandace is clueless on this subject (just like all the other things she is clueless about).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:49:45pm

re: #201 The Pie Overlord!

OK what pie? Can’t do both, there are only 2 of us.
Lemon Meringue
Chocolate Cream

My wife says chocolate cream, because she’s allergic to citrus fruit and she wants to come over to sample your pie.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:50:07pm

re: #210 The Pie Overlord!

Well, Borghlum did have a talent for chiseling shitheads into the sides of rocks.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:51:42pm

Some more good news.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:51:59pm

re: #209 Barefoot Grin

Me as well!

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:52:22pm

re: #216 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Some more good news.

Hey, I nailed it! Obstruction of justice!

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nines09  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:53:54pm

re: #198 Decatur Deb

We chewed pitch too.
“What’s that?”
Blackjack chewing gum. Want some?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:56:30pm

re: #219 nines09

We chewed pitch too.
“What’s that?”
Blackjack chewing gum. Want some?

For brighter, whiter teeth.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:57:07pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

Academic full ride scholarships for undergraduates are very rare birds, compared to full rides for other reasons (athletics, connections etc.). So Klandace is clueless on this subject (just like all the other things she is clueless about).

All of the top schools were very hard to get into this past year, or so the parent gossip goes.
I know of only 1 kid who got a full ride based on merit and economic hardship.

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plansbandc  Nov 24, 2021 • 4:58:36pm

re: #209 Barefoot Grin

Used to pull the booklet out and sing to Jesus Christ Superstar with my friends. It was definitely a thing back then.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:00:21pm

re: #222 plansbandc

Used to pull the booklet out and sing to Jesus Christ Superstar with my friends. It was definitely a thing back then.

Yvonne Elliman’s voice still makes my hair stand on end.

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nines09  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:00:21pm

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Find loose fillings!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:00:49pm

re: #190 Barefoot Grin

I wonder how the Warmbier family feels about this.

see that mini Mt Rushmore on the floor at lower left? tfg has his face carved on it.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:01:06pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:03:46pm

re: #221 prairiefire

All of the top schools were very hard to get into this past year, or so the parent gossip goes.
I know of only 1 kid who got a full ride based on merit and economic hardship.

Not great news here. My kid would probably ordinarily get a good deal with marks and credentials far better than what Candice claimed. But you’re right that the competition is rough. I wonder if there were “early acceptance” kids who took a year off to wait out covid and are now entering. I have no idea.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:03:59pm

re: #168 HRH Stanley Sea

Hell if I could afford a trip to France, you’re damn skippy I’d buy some kick ass cookware and ship it home.

Glad you got your booster too! Woot!!

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EPR-radar  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:04:33pm

re: #221 prairiefire

All of the top schools were very hard to get into this past year, or so the parent gossip goes.
I know of only 1 kid who got a full ride based on merit and economic hardship.

That’s been true for a very long time. When they say “selective” admissions, they damn well mean it.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:07:06pm

There is yet another cyclic austerity movement—“Buy Nothing”.
wsj.com

If I ever post that Wife has died, sell AMZ.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:08:00pm

Wow
That is a poorly thought out graphic

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:09:10pm

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Wow
That is a poorly thought out graphic

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Are the Rays Saudi owned?

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:11:57pm

re: #230 Decatur Deb

There is yet another cyclic austerity movement—“Buy Nothing”.
wsj.com

If I ever post that Wife has died, sell AMZ.

Anything that doesn’t work or causes major societal problems if everyone does it is bad unless that is widely acknowledged and it’s specifically targeted at a small group of people in need.

Same shit as people who refuse to buy anything new.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:12:35pm

re: #232 Barefoot Grin

Are the Rays Saudi owned?

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:13:50pm

re: #221 prairiefire

All of the top schools were very hard to get into this past year, or so the parent gossip goes.
I know of only 1 kid who got a full ride based on merit and economic hardship.

There was a news story about that a while back. All of last year’s high school graduates took a gap year because of the pandemic, so there were two classes competing this fall, thus twice the competition.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:14:42pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:14:58pm

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

According to South Park’s 22.3 year rule, it will be officially OK to joke about 9/11 on 12/29/2023.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:15:03pm

This is the first day I ever spent ‘on call’. That’s what’s on the calendar at work. If they call, you’re expected to show up in an hour at your usual rate. For me that’s a day ending in y, which is good, because that’s how it’s paid. Not at all. Just written on the calendar. Mr. w says, ‘wow, your union is really dropping the ball.’ I say, ‘That was the old job. No union here.’ He says, ‘Don’t agonize, organize.’

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:17:02pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

This is the first day I ever spent ‘on call’. That’s what’s on the calendar at work. If they call, you’re expected to show up in an hour at your usual rate. For me that’s a day ending in y, which is good, because that’s how it’s paid. Not at all. Just written on the calendar. Mr. w says, ‘wow, your union is really dropping the ball.’ I say, ‘That was the old job. No union here.’ He says, ‘Don’t agonize, organize.’

You got an hour? Oh, that’s nice. We get 15 minutes. I think there’s someone else here who works for a bank who gets even less.

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wrenchwench  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:17:05pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

I just had an, ‘I miss Joe Bacon’ moment.

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EPR-radar  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:17:59pm

re: #240 wrenchwench

I just had an, ‘I miss Joe Bacon’ moment.

That was a shame.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:19:04pm

re: #239 Dopamine Fish

You got an hour? Oh, that’s nice. We get 15 minutes. I think there’s someone else here who works for a bank who gets even less.

If you’re not paid to be in On Call status, someone is bumping into labor violations.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:19:24pm

There’s this weird “the West keeps spreading lies about North Korea” thing going on as if the torture and terror weren’t already well documented. It is centered on a Radio Free Asia report of someone bringing thumbdrives with Squid Games loaded and selling them to high school kids.

Yes, I understand that Radio Free Asia is meant to broadcast “democratic” values to Asian populations, and I understand the irony in our times. And it might seem odd that a show that criticizes the capitalist system would be at odds in NK. But there is a long order that no one can own anything that might allow access to outside information, so that part is true. Also the part about the fate of those who break the rules. So, I guess I have to give the reluctant middle finger to the NK apologists.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:19:36pm

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Wow
That is a poorly thought out graphic

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Did you know there is an entire population of fully grown-ass adults who were not even born when 9/11 happened?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:19:54pm

re: #232 Barefoot Grin

Are the Rays Saudi owned?

Their principal shareholder (48%) is Wall Street investor Stuart Sternberg, a jew from Canarsie

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Decatur Deb  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:20:22pm

re: #242 Decatur Deb

Edited to include “NOT”. Little thing.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:20:52pm

re: #242 Decatur Deb

If you’re paid to be in On Call status, someone is bumping into labor violations.

It’s one of the things I miss about being a contractor. As an employee, I’m NOT paid for being on call. Some of our contractors were paid full rates and overtime for every hour they had to be available on call, which resulted in some weird scheduling when they were asked to limit billing. They wound up handing off on-call shifts to those of us who were “only” paid for the hours actually worked.

248
Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:21:00pm

re: #245 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Their principal shareholder (48%) is Wall Street investor Stuart Sternberg, a jew from Canarsie

I didn’t think so. I don’t find it problematic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:21:06pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:24:54pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cool! Another connection to New Hampshire where modern Thanksgiving was reinvented by Sarah Hale, who also invented women’s issues magazines in the mid-19th century.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:25:44pm

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:27:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:29:28pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yeah, I think the issue is acting in an insurrection while attempting to also enter the government’s employ. Problematic.

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EPR-radar  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:29:36pm

re: #251 The Pie Overlord!

Refrigerators do not have “marinating drawers”. Even I know that.

255
PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:29:41pm

re: #251 The Pie Overlord!

From Cooks Illustrated: How to Brine a Turkey
cooksillustrated.com

If the link does not work go to Cooks Illustrated’s website.

They use a food service type container.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:30:35pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it was a black kid from Chicago that pepper-sprayed a cop, she’s be calling for the death penalty.

Awesome how their fawning over law enforcement is totally conditional.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:33:19pm

We’re having steak tomorrow. Finally got tired of throwing out turkey meat from the freezer several months later. We just didn’t eat much as a family afterwards and this year one of our kids is gone and the other eats little but will eat steak.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:35:18pm

re: #244 The Pie Overlord!

Did you know there is an entire population of fully grown-ass adults who were not even born when 9/11 happened?

I do know that for the last 20 years pretty much the entire nation spends around a week every September reliving 9/11.
So, I’m not sure that is much of an excuse.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:37:42pm

re: #257 Barefoot Grin

I bought an extra Beef Pot Pie from DiBruno’s so that is what I will be having for tomorrow.

260
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:40:23pm

It will be interesting to see what happens when Rittenhouse gets to Washington as an intern. He is manifestly unqualified for the job and will have no duties other than staying out of trouble, but his ability to manage even that is in serious doubt. The two most likely candidates, Boebert and Cawthorn, have got to be total shits to work for, too. A natural bully like Rittenhouse would reflexively see a woman or a man in a wheelchair as a target. Combine that with his artificially inflated arrogance and you could have a Repug own goal of historic dimensions.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:40:45pm

re: #255 PhillyPretzel

From Cooks Illustrated: How to Brine a Turkey
cooksillustrated.com

If the link does not work go to Cooks Illustrated’s website.

They use a food service type container.

DO NOT BRINE a kosher turkey. They are already brined as part of the koshering process. You gain nothing by re-brining, except possibly high blood pressure.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:41:45pm

re: #243 Barefoot Grin

I don’t have to give a “reluctant” middle finger to North Korean apologists, I’m fine with an enthusiastic one.

And boy are the apologists all over Twitter.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:42:04pm

re: #261 The Pie Overlord!

That is exactly what they say when using a Kosher bird. The meat is too salty and to mushy.

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jaunte  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:42:53pm

Thread:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:44:43pm

re: #254 EPR-radar

Refrigerators do not have “marinating drawers”. Even I know that.

That depends on how long stuff has been in them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:47:12pm

re: #264 jaunte

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:47:20pm

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That depends on how long stuff has been in them.

At that point, is it food, or Darwinism?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:47:24pm
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jaunte  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:48:42pm

“…Governor Wise of Virginia answered letters from Hale by telling her he wanted nothing to do with “this theatrical national claptrap of Thanksgiving, which has aided other causes in setting thousands of pulpits to preaching ‘Christian politics.’” Wise’s statement directly referred to anti-slavery politics.
atlasobscura.com

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Semper Fi  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:49:03pm

re: #95 A Mom Anon

This is the first year I can’t cook. Physically can’t. So hubby is disappointed and decided to make sloppy Joe’s for him and the kid. We’ll do bird related dinner when I can stand without getting out of breath and feeling so weak.

I’m just so sad. Cleo needs a bath, my house is just gross, and I can barely make it to the kitchen without getting weak and tired. I can’t afford the ER, my doctors office is closed for the week, and I am so tired of shit going wrong. So tired.

Mom, your description of how you feel is a bit familiar to me. A few years ago I found it very tiring to walk even a short distance. I’d stop to rest a couple times between my parked car and the store or just walking to the curb for my mail…out of breath and a discomfort in my upper chest similar to acid reflux. Turns out I had a completely blocked coronary artery. A stent was inserted after the doc was finally able to open it up after much poking. I’m for ER and feel continued life is worth it. Your husband and son (you wrote about) need you.

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Belafon  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:54:50pm

re: #186 mmmirele

So much wrong with Candace’s thinking. With so many high schoolers taking AP courses to boost their GPAs, a 4.3 is very good, but it’s not super. And there are other factors involved.

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Number 1 in my son’s high school class had a 5.0.

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Dangerman  Nov 24, 2021 • 5:59:46pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

There is no right not to be arrested
Or indicted
Or charged
Or to stand trial
Or be sued

If you are found not guilty, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have been tried

That would be asinine

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:00:44pm
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Dave In Austin  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:00:55pm

Chris Hays espousing E-Bikes tonight

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Dangerman  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:01:07pm

re: #254 EPR-radar

Refrigerators do not have “marinating drawers”. Even I know that.

My drawers are marinating right now

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Dangerman  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:02:38pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ffs
one more or less “just” outcome doesn’t mean they all are

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:07:09pm

dad joke:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:08:13pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:08:24pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol. Cute. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:10:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:11:39pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:11:58pm

re: #269 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And even then they didn’t sell as well as the cakeless rum cake.

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:16:31pm

re: #235 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

There was a news story about that a while back. All of last year’s high school graduates took a gap year because of the pandemic, so there were two classes competing this fall, thus twice the competition.

That makes so much sense, thanks, lizards. After my son scored a 34, ahem, a 34, then we received a nice offer from a private U.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:17:11pm

re: #275 Dangerman

My drawers are marinating right now

Please, change your pants.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:17:43pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:18:48pm

re: #251 The Pie Overlord!

I’m hoping that’s a joke.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 24, 2021 • 6:19:46pm

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