The Bob Cesca Podcast: Three Seashells

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Three Seashells — [Explicit Language] We’re back from Thanksgiving Break. Rocky Mountain Mike sits in for Buzz today. Mike’s newly adopted dog. Mike Flynn on tape saying QAnon is bullshit. Here comes Omicron. Gutfeld says Omicron is good news for natural immunity. Jim Cramer calls for national vaccine mandate. Republicans can’t stop accidentally complimenting Joe Biden. Republicans cynically exploiting short-term memory. MGM has to turn over Celebrity Apprentice tapes. With Christmas music by Bob Malone and Cookie. And more!

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 1:54:45pm

Also in the article, a note for editors: don’t rely on spellcheck:

“…Black people are the most murderous group in America by rate,” Ms Owens said.
That has been disputed by FBI figures from 2017 showing how most homicides in the US are interracial. Nor does the claim consider the fact that Black Americans are incinerated at higher rates than their white counterparts.”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 1:54:51pm

Sicilian dude is so frickin’ amazing.

Footprints - Alex Stornello - Matteo Mancuso Guest Solo

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2021 • 1:55:32pm

Never a bad day for a Demolition Man reference.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 1:59:56pm

Is the podcast audio player showing for everyone? I’ve been trying the native HTML5 audio tag, instead of a Javascript library I was using. Supposedly all the major browsers now support it.

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BigPapa  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:00:40pm

Played for me. I’m on Chrome.

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KingKenrod  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:02:43pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Is the podcast audio player showing for everyone? I’ve been trying the native HTML5 audio tag, instead of a Javascript library I was using. Supposedly all the major browsers now support it.

Shows up and works fine for me, on Chrome.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:03:06pm

Works on Firefox.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:04:29pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Is the podcast audio player showing for everyone? I’ve been trying the native HTML5 audio tag, instead of a Javascript library I was using. Supposedly all the major browsers now support it.

Played for me on a Win 10 box using the latest Firefox .

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:04:46pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:05:40pm

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:08:00pm

CL’d on the last thread.

(Saying that makes me miss her).

Due to my health issues and concerns about my immunocomprised daughter and my granddaughter, I’ve hardly left the house in the last year and a half and always mask.

But Mrs Cranky has been going stir crazy and really needed to get out.

So for the first time in forever months, we went to a restaurant for lunch. On the plus side, masks were required unless you were eating, the quests were seated at least 10 feet apart and there were clear plastic partitions between tables to provide improved isolation.

The restaurant was an interesting place. They have an IPA (and actually grow their own hops), most vegetables are grown there, they cure their own meats, etc.

Exceptions were noted on the menu.

On one hand, it felt great to be out, enjoying a good meal, pretending like life is returning to normal.

While being very aware that it isn’t. Sigh.

The things we do for love.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:09:04pm

LOLOLOL. Cat Fight!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:09:09pm
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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:10:02pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Played for me on Firefox on an Android S10.

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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:11:36pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Is the podcast audio player showing for everyone? I’ve been trying the native HTML5 audio tag, instead of a Javascript library I was using. Supposedly all the major browsers now support it.

yes, it does for me. Both Edge and Chrome.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:13:08pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Coming up for me on MS Edge.

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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:16:49pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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I like vegetarian, especially fond of ovo lacto dishes or even with fish.

But vegan is quackery in my mind; too many supplements needed to be healthy on it. And as you note, the substitutes are horrific.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:19:36pm

re: #14 A Cranky One

Played for me on Firefox on an Android S10.

Edge on Android, seems OK.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:20:33pm

re: #10 Punish Domestic Terrorists

TBF: If he were a billionaire* genius**, especially one with no ethics***, what better way of maintaining and increasing wealth than having marks pay for all his expenses? The wealthy have figured out how to get the rest of us to pay taxes to support our nation while their lobbyists design tax laws that guarantee them the ability to avoid taxation.

IANAL but there was discussion downstairs about the RNC paying for Trump’s legal expenses. Is there some mechanism involved so that the client is not obligated to pay taxes on the contributions others have made to provide them legal assistance? After all, is Rittenhouse obligated to pay anything on the money that funded his legal team?

* which he isn’t
** depends on the definition of genius — being a brilliant conman?
*** which he definitely is.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:21:02pm

re: #17 William Lewis

I like vegetarian, especially fond of ovo lacto dishes or even with fish.

But vegan is quackery in my mind; too many supplements needed to be healthy on it. And as you note, the substitutes are horrific.

If veganism didn’t exist, you’d have no way to feel superior to others!
///

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:21:48pm

re: #8 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hey, I know I’ve posted some humor about chihuahuas. Grew up with them, so my family members often share things they’ve seen.

Just wanted to let you know I’ve got nothing against chihuahuas. We’ll, other than they’re crazy. 😉

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:24:27pm

The HTML5 code for that audio player is really simple.

<audio controls width="100%" height="40" preload="auto">
  <source src="some_audio_file.mp3" type="audio/mp3">
</audio>
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:27:08pm

re: #21 A Cranky One

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I’ve posted jabs at them as well. Hell, I call Minnie a land piranha, neurotic and psychotic all the time. Because, well she is is.

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Nojay UK  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:28:47pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Long time back I tried some vegan cheese, grilling it on bread. It turned black and crispy and then caught on fire. I ditched the rest.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:32:59pm

Good news.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:34:01pm

re: #17 William Lewis

I like vegetarian, especially fond of ovo lacto dishes or even with fish.

But vegan is quackery in my mind; too many supplements needed to be healthy on it. And as you note, the substitutes are horrific.

something that’s always sat funny with me regarding any adopted food regimen or diet is trying to reproduce foods you’ve otherwise decided not to eat

i get the moral, religious or ethical reasoning behind food choices (as opposed to strictly health)

and there are legitimate substitutes for things

but why cant I simulate X if i can make it with these ingredients instead of those - yeah sometimes it works, other times i dont see the point in trying

meanwhile i have a kick ass vegan mac and cheese recipe (from the low cholesterol days before atorvastatin). it’s got not dairy at all and it’s not really cheese - but it’s creamy and tasty

shallot, potatoes, carrots, onion, water, cashews, salt, garlic, earth balance, mustard, lemon juice, pepper

i think im just rambling here

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:38:01pm
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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:39:52pm

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

TBF: If he were a billionaire* genius**, especially one with no ethics***, what better way of maintaining and increasing wealth than having marks pay for all his expenses? The wealthy have figured out how to get the rest of us to pay taxes to support our nation while their lobbyists design tax laws that guarantee them the ability to avoid taxation.

IANAL but there was discussion downstairs about the RNC paying for Trump’s legal expenses. Is there some mechanism involved so that the client is not obligated to pay taxes on the contributions others have made to provide them legal assistance? After all, is Rittenhouse obligated to pay anything on the money that funded his legal team?

* which he isn’t
** depends on the definition of genius — being a brilliant conman?
*** which he definitely is.

in general if you pay the expenses of another person, it’s income to them.
the same as if you gave them the money and they paid the bill themselves

i dont know if the kid’s situation is different from tfgs
may depend on who actually raised that money
and whether any of those lawyers were working pro bono (trumps arent)

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:41:09pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

The HTML5 code for that audio player is really simple.

<audio controls width="100%" height="40" preload="auto"> <source src="some_audio_file.mp3" type="audio/mp3">audio>

i think i’ve already heard “some_audio_file.mp3”

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BigPapa  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:43:31pm

What’s the best temp for roasting red potatotes? I tried 375 with them small and they got steamed but little caramelization. Don’t know if I should try lower/longer of just more air space between.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:46:03pm

Someone’s happy I’m home.


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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:47:58pm

re: #12 Dave In Austin

LOLOLOL. Cat Fight!

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Arm them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:49:07pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

It works for me, even with my ancient iMac.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:49:20pm

re: #30 BigPapa

What’s the best temp for roasting red potatotes? I tried 375 with them small and they got steamed but little caramelization. Don’t know if I should try lower/longer of just more air space between.

Go hot. 425. Also boil them for about 5 minutes first, then toss in a little oil, then throw on a sheet pan in the oven. Shake ‘em around after 6-8 minutes, pull out after about 15.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:50:47pm

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:51:01pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I seez it.

Arghhh… quick edit:

I seez it on Opera for iMac.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:51:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:53:51pm
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BigPapa  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:54:33pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, that’s socialism.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:56:29pm

Face palm.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:57:47pm
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BigPapa  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:59:33pm

Hawaii has 79 cases today. In the entire state.

On Hawaii Island, 2 cases.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2021 • 2:59:53pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

“But Biden’s not talking about what’s in the infrastructure bill.”

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:02:49pm
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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:02:56pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:04:23pm

re: #46 Dangerman

So did just about every elite, it seems, and most of them were not banging children.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:04:49pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:07:40pm

re: #47 Punish Domestic Terrorists

So did just about every elite, it seems, and most of them were not banging children.

We hope.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:12:14pm

The zombie apocalypse has started. I know zombie eyes when I see them.

While the car was moving, Stilwell “reached forward and proceeded to choke the victim from behind,” according to a sheriff’s deputy. As seen above, Stilwell initially choked Hassey with two hands before wrapping an arm around his throat.

As Hassey sought to pull over the car, Stilwell “managed to crawl forward onto the center console…and bite the victim deeply on the neck drawing blood.” She then scratched Hassey across the chest, “causing a large red in color mark with traces of blood visible.”

Probation In Choke, Chomp Of Uber Driver (TSG)

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:15:15pm

Oh to live the simple faithful life of the Mennonites. Country living and the good feeling you get when you help others. The Lord does work in mysterious ways. Yes. Very mysterious.
45 minutes from me.

Human trafficking lawsuit alleges Pa. Mennonite Church subjected boys, young men to forced labor

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:18:25pm

re: #50 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That’s one angry, disturbed looking person.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:21:47pm

re: #44 Belafon

“But Biden’s not talking about what’s in the infrastructure bill.”

Today, a friend and I took our weekly hour walk through the neighborhood and chatted as usual about all types of issues, including politics. What upsets her most of all is that voting rights are not #1 on the agenda — more important than BBB. She feels that the failure to make this the sole priority will lead to disaster in 2022 - that BBB can be deferred but voting cannot. Obviously, since BBB doesn’t require any changes to Senate procedures to get adopted, it should be a simpler task. Of course both BBB and voting rights require the agreement of Manchin and Sinema, and they both seem locked in against changes to the filibuster. I cannot really disagree with her concern, because if we don’t deal with voting, we will have decades in the wilderness with GOP voter suppression, disenfranchisement, and gerrymandering.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:22:32pm

re: #51 nines09

Residents also faced consequences when they “acted against the Bible” including having their food and water withheld or restricted to just rice and beans or being forced to do manual labor like dragging chains or breaking boulders with a small hammer, the lawsuit alleges.

According to the men, residents would be physically restrained by supervisors who would hold the boys down and hog tie them using zip-ties.

Supervisors would verbally abuse the boys by telling them that if they tried to leave the facility they would be excommunicated from the church or excommunicate them from their families, the lawsuit alleges.

Awful.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:22:37pm

re: #52 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That’s one angry, disturbed looking person.

She looks a bit like Sheldon

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:26:53pm

re: #50 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The zombie apocalypse has started. I know zombie eyes when I see them.

Probation In Choke, Chomp Of Uber Driver (TSG)

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How did she get only probation? Was this the same judge who thought probation was the appropriate sentence for a man who raped 4 teenage girls?

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:28:29pm

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

How did she get only probation? Was this the same judge who thought probation was the appropriate sentence for a man who raped 4 teenage girls?

Skin tone.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:30:11pm

She told Dad!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:30:38pm

re: #57 darthstar

Skin tone.

In this case, both the attacker and victim are white.

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gocart mozart  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:32:42pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:35:09pm
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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:37:20pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

Today, a friend and I took our weekly hour walk through the neighborhood and chatted as usual about all types of issues, including politics. What upsets her most of all is that voting rights are not #1 on the agenda — more important than BBB. She feels that the failure to make this the sole priority will lead to disaster in 2022 - that BBB can be deferred but voting cannot. Obviously, since BBB doesn’t require any changes to Senate procedures to get adopted, it should be a simpler task. Of course both BBB and voting rights require the agreement of Manchin and Sinema, and they both seem locked in against changes to the filibuster. I cannot really disagree with her concern, because if we don’t deal with voting, we will have decades in the wilderness with GOP voter suppression, disenfranchisement, and gerrymandering.

re manchin and sinema - electoral-vote.com

A recent piece from David Smith, who is the lead Washington correspondent for The Guardian, suggests an explanation for the senators’ behavior: It’s all about the Benjamins. Specifically, the senators are raking in the bucks for their campaign war chests, a development largely fueled by the generous support of right-wing donors. Through Q3 of this year, Manchin had collected $3.3 million in donations, as compared to $230,000 over the same timeframe last year. Sinema’s haul as of Q3 2021 is $2.6 million, which is a far sight better than the $1 million she brought in during the first three quarters of 2020.

This is not definitive, but it’s certainly enough that plenty of Washington watchdogs are tossing out the c-word (corruption). The famously corrupt 19th century politician Simon Cameron once declared that “An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.” Given this month’s to-do list, we should get some pretty good evidence as to whether Manchin and Sinema have been bought, and will stay bought.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:43:49pm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:46:26pm
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BigPapa  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:50:12pm

Cuomo is out now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:52:12pm

re: #65 BigPapa

Indefinite suspension looks like. Not terminated (yet)

CNN said Tuesday that it has suspended Chris Cuomo “indefinitely” after new documents released this week indicated that the anchor was more intimately involved than previously known in helping his brother, former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, craft a defense amid a flurry of sexual misconduct allegations.

“The New York Attorney General’s office released transcripts and exhibits Monday that shed new light on Chris Cuomo’s involvement in his brother’s defense,” a CNN spokesperson said Tuesday evening. “The documents, which we were not privy to before their public release, raise serious questions.”

“When Chris admitted to us that he had offered advice to his brother’s staff, he broke our rules and we acknowledged that publicly,” the spokesperson continued. “But we also appreciated the unique position he was in and understood his need to put family first and job second.”

“However, these documents point to a greater level of involvement in his brother’s efforts than we previously knew,” the spokesperson added. “As a result, we have suspended Chris indefinitely, pending further evaluation.”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:59:20pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

Indefinite suspension looks like. Not terminated (yet)

I don’t think he’ll be back, but I didn’t think Toobin would ever be back either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 3:59:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:03:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:05:58pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:07:24pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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steve_davis  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:12:48pm

Here’s a master combining perfect tone and perfect solos:

Tattoo’d Lady

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:14:49pm

re: #20 Sherlock Hound

If veganism didn’t exist, you’d have no way to feel superior to others!
///

Almost all of the nutjob beliefs from Flat Earthers to QAnon are all about ‘heroism’. They believe they are among the few smart enough to see the evil and the fewer brave enough to stand against it.

Beats being ordinary, I guess.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:15:36pm

More High School carnage: upnorthlive.com

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steve_davis  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:15:37pm

“So for the first time in forever months, we went to a restaurant for lunch. On the plus side, masks were required unless you were eating, the quests were seated at least 10 feet apart and there were clear plastic partitions between tables to provide improved isolation.”

Because you don’t want the quest for fire to bleed into the quest to Mount Doom! :-)

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:17:09pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was in Vons in Fullerton, Ca, and a muzak version of I Can’t Get No Satisfaction played on the PA.

I was going to start the comment with, ‘I’ll never forget when…’, but I don’t remember when that was. Mid 70s, I’m pretty sure.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:21:35pm

re: #73 Romantic Heretic

Almost all of the nutjob beliefs from veganism to QAnon are all about ‘heroism’. They believe they are among the few smart enough to see the evil and the fewer brave enough to stand against it.

Beats being ordinary, I guess.

How is veganism a nutjob belief? It may be eccentric, but favoring a plant-based diet doesn’t seem as though it’s designed to cause widespread harm to society, especially given the problems of climate change and overfishing, which may require radical changes to our eating habits.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:22:31pm

re: #48 jaunte

Why?

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood!

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:23:56pm

re: #72 steve_davis

Here’s a master combining perfect tone and perfect solos:

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When I was in high school, a classmate had a serious crush on my best friend. When he finally accepted the fact that she had no interest in him, he took a vow of poverty and became a Buddhist, or something, and gave me his album collection, except for the one you posted, and 2 Yes albums.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:26:55pm

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Sorry for that. I went back and changed it.

However, I have had vegans, metaphorically, piss on me for not being vegan. Which makes them, not the belief, fall into the nutjob category.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:27:19pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

I was in Vons in Fullerton, Ca, and a muzak version of I Can’t Get No Satisfaction played on the PA.

I was going to start the comment with, ‘I’ll never forget when…’, but I don’t remember when that was. Mid 70s, I’m pretty sure.

MrBWS just said that the area Kroger store is playing music from when we were in high school.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:28:50pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

I was in Vons in Fullerton, Ca, and a muzak version of I Can’t Get No Satisfaction played on the PA.

I was going to start the comment with, ‘I’ll never forget when…’, but I don’t remember when that was. Mid 70s, I’m pretty sure.

oh, and Satisfaction was released in 1965.

dammit…I am really old…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:30:17pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:31:10pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dogs and Cats know good people.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:33:44pm

LOL

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) predicted “chaos” if Republicans retake the majority.

“My father was superintendent of a mental institution, so I think about things like this,” Cohen said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:34:46pm

more with that saying the quiet part out loud: consumption taxes are great! Screw the poors…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:35:36pm

re: #80 Romantic Heretic

Sorry for that. I went back and changed it.

However, I have had vegans, metaphorically, piss on me for not being vegan. Which makes them, not the belief, fall into the nutjob category.

Same with me.

Vegans have starved their children and carnivorous pets like cats (children should not be raised on a vegan diet).

They have to “recruit you to their lifestyle” (unlike Teh Geyh, veganism is a choice).

While it’s anecdotal, I have never yet met a vegan who doesn’t tell you within the first few minutes (forcefully) that they are vegan, and you’re a terrible person if you are not.

Some claims made by vegans are entirely false, such as the whole world can be vegan (there is not enough arable land for that) or that would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions (false, all agriculture, even gardens, release greenhouse gasses from turning the soil to grow crops and vegetables).

There might be vegans around here. If someone got belligerent about it, well, there’s a lot of canyons and crevasses in the Sandhills where you might never be found… .

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS just said that the area Kroger store is playing music from when we were in high school.

I’ve mentioned that to my wife before. The concerning thing would be when they play music I am unfamiliar with from those kids these days. /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:37:37pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:38:10pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Same with me.

While its anecdotal, I have never yet met a vegan who doesn’t tell you within the first few minutes (forcefully) that they are vegan, and you’re a terrible person if you are not.

Isn’t this extremely dumb in a thread where someone has implied for the 1st time that she’s a vegan?

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:38:28pm

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

A lot of vegans harass disabled people on Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:39:54pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

more with that saying the quiet part out loud: consumption taxes are great! Screw the poors…

That’s the thing my state senator is pushing here as promulgated by the libertarian Heartland Institute. It is one of the things I want to go after him about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:40:08pm
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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:41:07pm

re: #65 BigPapa

Cuomo is out now.

Wow…you can take out two Cuomos with one dick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:41:21pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s the thing my state senator is pushing here as promulgated by the libertarian Heartland Institute. It is one of the things I want to go after him about.

apparently this “Tax Foundation” think tank is taking credit for the wonderful tax reform in your state.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:41:33pm

re: #89 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Isn’t this extremely dumb in a thread where someone has implied for the 1st time that she’s a vegan?

I wasn’t aware anyone here implied she was a vegan. I was going off the linked threads from Mr. Johnson’s tweet about vegan cheese tasting awful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:42:24pm
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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:44:06pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Income tax is progressive. Consumption taxes invariably end up being regressive because the poorest folks end up spending a greater portion of their income on things that are caught up in the consumption taxes.

It’s another scam by right wingers to shift burdens to those least able to afford them.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:45:11pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I wasn’t aware anyone here implied she was a vegan. I was going off the linked threads from Mr. Johnson’s tweet about vegan cheese tasting awful.

That’s good. It looked like this thread was getting stupid after someone took offense at vegans being called nutjobs.

Obviously only the vegans who get in people’s faces have made you aware that they’re vegan.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:45:11pm

re: #89 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Isn’t this extremely dumb in a thread where someone has implied for the 1st time that she’s a vegan?

I am not a vegan but one of my nephews is. I have my own idiosyncrasies in eating — my BIL always complains that he cannot keep track of food on my “never touch” list, except that he knows that I refuse red meat. Why do I object to green olives but love black olives? What’s my problem with cucumber? It’s a mystery!

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:48:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:48:40pm
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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:50:09pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

“narrowly recommends” - just say recommends…fuckers are dying because they won’t get vaccinated. Don’t kill more fuckers by giving them an excuse to refuse medication.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:50:18pm

Know nothing hack Dr. Oz is running for the US Senate. Name recognition will get him only so far, and I don’t care what party he’s running as, but his opponents should go to town on all of his snake oil pitches and scams. He isn’t qualified and has repeatedly put junk science and woo ahead of facts and reality.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:50:37pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS just said that the area Kroger store is playing music from when we were in high school.

I went to the area Kroger-owned store I used to work at to get boostered. I was going to go to the outside walk-up window they have, but the sign said it was closed due to being short-staffed. So I went in and got in line, and waited about half an hour, and when it was my turn, I said ‘Moderna booster, please’. He told me they weren’t doing any injections because they were short-staffed. They have always been short-staffed. I started working there before the pandemic, and they were short-staffed.

So I rode my bike to the other place listed within a mile of my zip code that was doing vaxxes (by appointment). It was a dental office. The receptionist asked me whether I had an appointment. I said no, I’d like to make one. She asked whether for dental attention or a vax. When I said the latter, she asked whether I would like that right now. Within 10 minutes, I was in a room with a chair, a dentist, and a needle.

I said, ‘Hurts half as much, right?’ He said, ‘Well, it is half the dose…’ Then, ‘Ready? On three. One, two, three.’ That’s gotta be the worst way to give a shot. And it hurt. I told him it hurt twice as much, and he said, ‘All I have left is these big needles. They gotta send me some more smaller needles.’ That may have been a good thing I have a mask on moment.

My arm hurt until I got out the door. By the time I was riding my bike, I forgot about it. I am boosted.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:51:51pm

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:51:52pm

re: #102 darthstar

“narrowly recommends” - just say recommends…fuckers are dying because they won’t get vaccinated. Don’t kill more fuckers by giving them an excuse to refuse medication.

They should make sure that the people who get this first are those who were vaccinated and saw breakthrough cases.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:51:57pm

re: #103 lawhawk

Know nothing hack Dr. Oz is running for the US Senate. Name recognition will get him only so far, and I don’t care what party he’s running as, but his opponents should go to town on all of his snake oil pitches and scams. He isn’t qualified and has repeatedly put junk science and woo ahead of facts and reality.

Crap Words From Dr. Oz’s Senate Announcement, Or Crap Medical Advice He Gave On His Show? A QUIZ! (Wonkette)

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:53:00pm

re: #103 lawhawk

And from what I have read he is going to be running in PA. Does he live in PA? I do know if you are running for an office in PA (or representing PA nationally) you must have a residence in PA.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:53:28pm

re: #106 lawhawk

They should make sure that the people who get this first are those who were vaccinated and saw breakthrough cases.

When it comes to saving lives, save all you can…even the dumbfucks.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:54:46pm

re: #105 darthstar

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Wow, somebody finally came up with a joke for that punchline. A good one.

Edited because they shouldn’t put the period right next to the comma

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:56:22pm

re: #97 lawhawk

Income tax is progressive. Consumption taxes invariably end up being regressive because the poorest folks end up spending a greater portion of their income on things that are caught up in the consumption taxes.

It’s another scam by right wingers to shift burdens to those least able to afford them.

What’s most annoying is the failure to consider the “other” income tax — namely FICA taxes — which also are regressive. It’s unfair to look at federal tax burden by income and ignore that tax. When it comes to states, though, most use sales taxes as the primary tax. The Illinois income tax is a flat 5% with a low personal exemption; efforts to make it progressive, led by our billionaire governor, failed because lobbyists persuaded voters that average people would bear the burden. Retirement income is excluded from income (pensions, social security, IRA/401(k) withdrawals), so a boost to us elderly.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:57:22pm

re: #108 PhillyPretzel

And from what I have read he is going to be running in PA. Does he live in PA? I do know if you are running for an office in PA (or representing PA nationally) you must have a residence in PA.

He lives in Montgomery County, Penna., having moved there recently from New Jersey.

He is also a dual citizen of the USA and Turkey.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:58:08pm

re: #109 darthstar

When it comes to saving lives, save all you can…even the dumbfucks.

Congratulations, the cruel stupidity of most of these dumbfucks hasn’t made you into a monster who wants them dead. I’m not so sure about myself. The Trump era left a mark on me.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:58:39pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thanks. I just read that in his bio on Wiki. Montgomery Co is going from R to D in recent elections.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:59:06pm

re: #114 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I just read that in his bio on Wiki. Montgomery Co is going from R to D in recent elections.

I cheated and used Wikipedia myself.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:59:34pm
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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2021 • 4:59:40pm

re: #103 lawhawk

Know nothing hack Dr. Oz is running for the US Senate. Name recognition will get him only so far, and I don’t care what party he’s running as, but his opponents should go to town on all of his snake oil pitches and scams. He isn’t qualified and has repeatedly put junk science and woo ahead of facts and reality.

Oh, to be able to go to his rallies with a bull horn and a recording of a duck quacking… ;)

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mmmirele  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:00:20pm

I *escaped* from work…

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:01:21pm

re: #113 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Congratulations, the cruel stupidity of most of these dumbfucks hasn’t made you into a monster who wants them dead. I’m not so sure about myself. The Trump era left a mark on me.

I don’t want them dead. I’m far too vindictive to wish that escape onto them. I want them to suffer. I want them answering calls from collections agencies for the next ten years for their medical bills while trying to get up the strength to slam the phone because they’re too weak from the Covid they gave themselves. I want them getting physically ill when they see a Trump flag or MAGA hat on their friends. I want them to change and become better people…then they can recover financially. Until then, fuck them….hard.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:02:12pm

Jeffery Clark getting the next contempt of Congress charge. Fuck that piece of shit.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:02:50pm

Repubs in disarray.

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:03:42pm

re: #103 lawhawk

Here’s all you need to know about Oz.
Washington’s fault? Then that would mean Trump, no?
Per Philly Inquirer cut and paste.

“COVID has shown us that our system is broken,” Oz said in the video. “We lost too many lives, too many jobs and too many opportunities because Washington, D.C. got it wrong. It took away our freedom without making us safer and tried to kill our spirit and our dignity.”

A longtime New Jersey resident who grew up in Wilmington, Del., he earned his medical and business degrees at the University of Pennsylvania after graduating from Harvard University. Oz registered to vote last December in Bryn Athyn, Montgomery County. He is living there while renting his in-laws’ home, according to a campaign aide.

“There’s carpetbagging, then there is this guy trying to buy a U.S. Senate seat in a state he doesn’t live in, doesn’t know, and can’t fight for effectively,” said a spokesman for a Super PAC supporting another GOP candidate, Montgomery County developer Jeff Bartos. “Oz doesn’t know the first thing about conservative Pennsylvania values and primary voters are about to find out how out of touch he is.”

While new to elective politics, Oz he has interviewed Trump and was named to the former president’s council of sports, fitness, and nutrition. He has hired a team of political veterans that include the agency that created the former president’s television ads and was scheduled to appear Tuesday night on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show to discuss his candidacy. Oz has long known Trump, his aide said.

Parasite.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:05:08pm

re: #121 jaunte

Evil stupidity like Greene’s cannot tolerate being criticized. So every ‘moderate’ Republican faces the choice between groveling to the New Party Leaders or being primaried by a True Believing Pinhead.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:06:57pm

re: #122 nines09

Dr. Oz is running for office as a Trump crotch louse. Other parasites will copy this behavior.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:07:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:07:28pm

As a staunch right wing patriarchal shithead, it must really sting McCarthy for him to be so disrespected by a woman.

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mmmirele  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:07:54pm

re: #51 nines09

Oh to live the simple faithful life of the Mennonites. Country living and the good feeling you get when you help others. The Lord does work in mysterious ways. Yes. Very mysterious.
45 minutes from me.

Human trafficking lawsuit alleges Pa. Mennonite Church subjected boys, young men to forced labor

A *huge* part of that is due to our *thing* of letting parents nearly completely control their children until they are 18 or get emancipated. This allows parents to send kids off to these shitty schools, which are all over the country, where the kids are tortured and treated like slaves and it’s perfectly legal if they’re minors and their parents signed them in.

It’s NOT legal if they were over 18 and if they were not prisoners. Yay 13th amendment, separating out the prisoners from the benefits of emancipation. //// Given this is a lawsuit, I suspect the current plaintiffs were underage when they were forced to labor.

There are some things that just cause me to completely lose my shit, and abuse of children is at the top of the list. There’s too much LEGAL child abuse in this country because we have this whole “parents own their kids” thing and “spare the rod and spoil the child.” /sorry not sorry for the rant.

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:08:19pm

re: #124 EPR-radar

Trump supported Sean Parnell as the chosen in Pennsylvania and then he got caught beating his wife.
Imagine that.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:08:33pm

re: #125 Dread Pirate Ron

“All I can say to Marjorie Taylor Greene is ‘bless her fucking heart.”

Assumes organ not in evidence.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:08:48pm

re: #122 nines09

I agree with you and as I stated little bit upstream Montgomery Co is going from R to D. Bryn Athyn is also home to the Bryn Athyn Cathedral which is a Swedenborg Church.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:09:17pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:09:18pm

re: #125 Dread Pirate Ron

The “normal” GOP members of Congress are already enablers of the bigoted, radical and dangerous Republicans. Now the demand from the ultra hard right to the moderates has changed to enablement + absolute subservience.

100% as expected, of course.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:09:38pm

Trump may end up as Speaker if the GOP wins the House in the midterms. I honestly thought it was so stupid as to be impossible, but that seems to be what the evil freshmen have been sent to set up.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:10:08pm

re: #125 Dread Pirate Ron

Bless her fucking heart…awesome.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:11:16pm

re: #127 mmmirele

Part of that is due to our *thing* of letting parents nearly completely control their children until they are 18 or get emancipated. This allows parents to send kids off to these shitty schools, which are all over the country, where the kids are tortured and treated like slaves and it’s perfectly legal if they’re minors and their parents signed them in.

It’s NOT legal if they were over 18 and if they were not prisoners. Yay 13th amendment, separating out the prisoners from the benefits of emancipation. //// Given this is a lawsuit, I suspect the current plaintiffs were underage when they were forced to labor.

There are some things that just cause me to completely lose my shit, and abuse of children is at the top of the list. There’s too much LEGAL child abuse in this country because we have this whole “parents own their kids” thing and “spare the rod and spoil the child.” /sorry not sorry for the rant.

Quoted because I used to be a kid.

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:12:55pm

re: #127 mmmirele

No “society” is immune from this. Amish and Mennonite communities are often held up as models of a religious upbringing. Their society is very close knit and closed.
Not much leaks out.
That particular “school” may not even be licensed I’ve read.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:14:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:15:00pm

A forty-two year-old bodybuilder from the United Kingdom has died of Covid-19. His twin sister allowed The Guardian to print his story of how he fell for the propaganda from Faceplant “friends” over that of health and government officials.

As he fell into the antivax rabbit hole, he then started making trips to Florida to promote those views as well.

The life and tragic death of John Eyers - a fitness fanatic who refused the vaccine (today)

He did triathlons, bodybuilding and mountain climbing and became sceptical of the Covid jab. Then, at 42, he contracted the virus

The only thing tragic about it is the propagandists who spread this nonsense. The outcome was entirely predictable.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:15:27pm
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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:16:04pm

I’m having a disagreement with my neighbor over something minor…I wonder if Kevin McCarthy would make a good arbitrator…

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:16:10pm

re: #130 PhillyPretzel

Yes but that is only his relatives house he is renting. I suspect it won’t be for long. He may be saner than a few other GOP Cult members that are running. The Pennsylvania legislature is full of Trump ass kissing fascists.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:16:19pm

re: #105 darthstar

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:16:57pm

re: #141 nines09

Unfortunately you are right.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:17:39pm

re: #137 Dread Pirate Ron

There’s a category error in these tweets. Ilhan Omar doesn’t have GOP ‘colleagues’. For her, Congressional Republicans are enemies, differing only by how overt their hostility is.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:20:08pm

re: #122 nines09

Here’s all you need to know about Oz.

This is what you need to know about Mehmet Oz, MD.

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:21:37pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“He was very active in the Flat Earth Society and thought that the CV19 vaccine was a plot by aliens and rich communists.
Poignantly, his life was cut short immediately after he announced that red traffic lights were the instrument of the Devil and he would no longer obey them. A fully loaded semi truck hit him as he left his interview and ran a red light.”

re: #145 Eric The Fruit Bat
Yes. He’s a parasite.
And worse.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:23:37pm

re: #135 wrenchwench

Quoted because I used to be a kid.

My parents were firmly in the “We own your ass until you’re eighteen and working and supporting yourself independently, or 21 if you can’t get hired anywhere, and while you’re looking for a job, we’re going to put so many conditions and demands on you to make it impossible to accept offers and sabotage any efforts to gain independence, and when you reach 21, we’re gonna kick your worthless ass out on the street anyway” camp.

“And, you by God better respect our authority over you and never, ever think about asserting your rights to us.”

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:24:46pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:25:57pm

re: #145 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is what you need to know about Mehmet Oz, MD.

It was the Mercola bit that had me believing that he was an anti-vaxxer. (Joseph Mercola is a well-known leader of the anti-vaccine community.) So it appears that he may not genuinely believe all the crazy shit he’s put on his show, but he has absolutely no qualms with giving it a platform and encourage people to “just ask questions”, which is even worse, in my opinion, than believing in it himself.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:26:15pm

re: #147 A Three Hour Tour

Are they still with us? Are you in communication with them?

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b.d. (The war is over)  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:26:30pm

re: #145 Eric The Fruit Bat

This is what you need to know about Mehmet Oz, MD.

That sure is a lot of words.

Once the Pennsylvania GOP finds out that Oz is a Muslim they will begging the wife beater to get back in the race.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:27:09pm
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steve_davis  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:27:13pm

Baby girl snoring through what I now refer to as the toot kazoo, ‘cause it sounds like a little pitch pipe on the inhale and a little kazoo on the exhale.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:27:34pm

re: #100 A Cranky One

I so wanted to steal this, but that ain’t what Superdog is about

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:28:50pm

re: #148 jaunte

Look at that piece of shit and his idiot-grifter wife…he’s not a loss to this planet.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:29:10pm

Imply, infer, who cares, he’s on a roll.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:30:19pm

re: #155 darthstar

I wonder how many examples it will take to convince his flock.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:32:13pm

re: #153 steve_davis

Baby girl snoring through what I now refer to as the toot kazoo, ‘cause it sounds like a little pitch pipe on the inhale and a little kazoo on the exhale.

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Cut how she lays right on your leg.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:37:20pm

niterz, lizardz!

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:47:38pm

HAPPY HANUKKAH! 3rd LIGHT

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:49:12pm

re: #150 wrenchwench

Are they still with us? Are you in communication with them?

Mom died in 1996 in an accident on a trip to the Grand Canyon that also took out her father, and injured her two sisters and my father, but they recovered.

My father passed away in 2015. I have a racist stepmother who would’ve fit in better with Dad’s family than Mom did. I don’t have anything to do with her, either.

I escaped by getting married at 23 and moving at 25 to Texas for several years, then relocating 6-8 hours away from them at 29. Eventually, we moved to New Mexico when I was 38.

My youngest brother escaped to Southwestern Virginia, then Indiana, then out here to New Mexico.

Our middle brother - who I often describe as a cross between Earl Hickey from “My Name is Earl” and Michael Kelso from “That 70’s Show” - never really escaped and I wouldn’t wish his life on anyone. He has to deal with our stepmother on a regular basis.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:50:00pm

re: #147 A Three Hour Tour

I was in a Twitter conversation with a woman who bragged about her relationship with her kids, “WE NOT FRIENDS”.

I mentioned, in thirty years, her kids will tell HER, “WE NOT FRIENDS”.

It’s only appropriate.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:51:34pm

re: #161 A Three Hour Tour

Mom died in 1996 in an accident on a trip to the Grand Canyon that also took out her father, and injured her two sisters and my father, but they recovered.

My father passed away in 2015. I have a racist stepmother who would’ve fit in better with Dad’s family than Mom did. I don’t have anything to do with her, either.

I escaped by getting married at 23 and moving at 25 to Texas for several years, then relocating 6-8 hours away from them at 29. Eventually, we moved to New Mexico when I was 38.

My youngest brother escaped to Southwestern Virginia, then Indiana, then out here to New Mexico.

Our middle brother - who I often describe as a cross between Earl Hickey from “My Name is Earl” and Michael Kelso from “That 70’s Show” - never really escaped and I wouldn’t wish his life on anyone. He has to deal with our stepmother on a regular basis.

Good for you. Sorry we can’t save ‘em all.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:53:59pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:57:22pm

re: #148 jaunte

There’s been a lot of tone policing against people going onto the social media accounts to tell people who follow antivaxxers why they really died.

That usually results in the account being wiped of all content (or the page being set to private), partly because those comments debunk the conservative faith, and partly because antivax posts interfere with the GoFundMe account which is almost inevitable.

If Faceborg and Twitler won’t kick off the antivaxxers, then “crowdsourcing” forcing that account to shut down to remove the propaganda might be the only way to do it.

Daystar Television has now wiped their Faceplant account clean after they were relentlessly hammered for lying to their readers about how their leader died.

That reminds me of the National Religious Broadcasters firing their spokesman Daniel Darling for saying he wanted his listeners to get vaccinated.

Daniel Darling, an evangelical author and the spokesman for NRB (National Religious Broadcasters), spoke out this month about his decision to get the COVID-19 vaccine in an op-ed in USA Today and a segment on MSNBC.

As of Friday, his remarks cost him his job with the ministry.

Darling was fired from NRB this week when he refused to sign a statement saying his pro-vaccine messaging amounted to insubordination, a source told CT on his behalf.

In a statement, Darling said he was “sad and disappointed that [his] time at NRB has come to a close.”

(more at Christianity Today, August 27, 2021)

Daniel Darling Fired from NRB After Pro-Vaccine Remarks

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:59:40pm

re: #121 jaunte

Tomorrow’s NYT article.
“Why Greene walking out on McCarthy is bad for Biden and the Democrats.”

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 5:59:54pm

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Your job or your life”

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:01:39pm

re: #162 Sherlock Hound

I was in a Twitter conversation with a woman who bragged about her relationship with her kids, “WE NOT FRIENDS”.

I mentioned, in thirty years, her kids will tell HER, “WE NOT FRIENDS”.

It’s only appropriate.

I heard from one of my brothers, when I was still in contact with the middle one, that our childhood barber was shitting upon me for not attending Dad’s funeral. My youngest brother flew out from here as my representative, because I was just not up to dealing with the funeral, reconciling past traumatic experiences, and putting on a pleasant facade in front of a stepfamily who had very much rubbed me the wrong way on previous holiday visits.

Dad had tried to make amends after Mom died, but it was much too late. The damage was done long ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:04:26pm

re: #170 A Three Hour Tour

I heard from one of my brother’s, when I was still in contact with the middle one, that our childhood barber was shitting upon me for not attending Dad’s funeral. My youngest brother flew out from here as my representative, because I was just not up to dealing with the funeral, reconciling last traumatic experiences, and putting on a pleasant facade in front of a stepfamily who had very much rubbed me the wrong way on previous holiday visits.

Dad had tried to make amends after Mom died, but it was much too late. The damage was done long ago.

One nice thing about being disowned by all your Christian relatives is they won’t invite you to funerals or bash you for not attending.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:07:04pm

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One nice thing about being disowned by all your Christian relatives is they won’t invite you to funerals or bash you for not attending.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:10:54pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:13:48pm

re: #35 A Cranky One

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😂 😂 I’m deceased!!

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:16:33pm

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

“Siri, what’s your trigger sound for…Lee Greenwood?” ///

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:24:11pm

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:24:47pm

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How is what they did to Darling not cancel culture?

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:28:57pm

re: #177 Patricia Kayden

How is what they did to Darling not cancel culture?

“It’s not cancel culture when Conservative Christians cancel you.”
” But … “
“It just isn’t, okay?”
” But why? “
“Because shut up, that’s why? D’you wanna go to Hell for disbelievin’ your betters?”

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:37:13pm

Rep. Debbie Dingell’s Michigan office was vandalized, with a bunch of her husband’s memorabilia destroyed.

dailykos.com

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:37:53pm

re: #179 Belafon

Rep. Debbie Dingell’s Michigan office was vandalized, with a bunch of her husband’s memorabilia destroyed.

dailykos.com

Fucking Republican brownshirts.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:40:16pm

re: #177 Patricia Kayden

How is what they did to Darling not cancel culture?

Well, the thing I always remind myself is that conservatives places hierarchy as paramount, so meaning is conditional on position.

Cancel culture is when someone they deem of lesser position engages in criticizing or shaming someone they should not—demanding or extract consequences, even if that only amounts to embarrassment—because it is not part of their role in their lesser position to be saying such things.

When someone in a higher position uses criticism and shame to bring someone lesser to heel, that’s the natural order of the world…and conservatives are axiomatically within the upper half of the pyramid.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:40:29pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:44:32pm

re: #133 Barefoot Grin

Trump may end up as Speaker if the GOP wins the House in the midterms. I honestly thought it was so stupid as to be impossible, but that seems to be what the evil freshmen have been sent to set up.

“Stupid as to be impossible” is the new GOP motto which pretty much sums up the entire four years of Trump’s regime.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:52:31pm

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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:55:16pm

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2021 • 6:56:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:01:46pm
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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:05:45pm

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

our loss of global standing

We haven’t looked good since Richard Shelby, Steve Daines, John Thune, John Kennedy, Jerry Moran, John Hoeven and Kay Granger went to Moscow to kiss Putin’s ring.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:06:25pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:07:33pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:07:37pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:10:18pm
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jaunte  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:13:51pm

Tucson officer fired after fatally shooting [61 yr old] man in motorized wheelchair 9 times from behind.
azcentral.com

Do not watch video. This was an execution.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:14:01pm

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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This is backwards talk for “we want to seem tough on illegal immigration, but we’re having serious (but quiet) talks about how we can still get illegal immigrants here to do the dirty, difficult, dangerous work on our farms and meat plants that no one else wants to do.”

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:24:00pm

re: #193 jaunte

You’re correct. “To protect and serve” my ass.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:24:43pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:26:52pm

re: #193 jaunte

Tucson officer fired after fatally shooting [61 yr old] man in motorized wheelchair 9 times from behind.
azcentral.com

Do not watch video. This was an execution.

re: #195 A Cranky One

You’re correct. “To protect and serve” my ass.

He was off duty, working security for Walmart

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:27:02pm

re: #193 jaunte

Tucson officer fired after fatally shooting [61 yr old] man in motorized wheelchair 9 times from behind.
azcentral.com

Do not watch video. This was an execution.

A disabled man in a wheelchair with a knife is like a flying guillotine.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:30:59pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I appreciate any clarification.

But shooting someone in the back when there was no deadly threat is impossible to justify.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:34:14pm

re: #193 jaunte

Tucson officer fired after fatally shooting [61 yr old] man in motorized wheelchair 9 times from behind.
azcentral.com

Do not watch video. This was an execution.

Firing should be just the first step; he should be charged with homicide.

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Semper Fi  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:35:27pm

Incompetent cops are everywhere.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:40:58pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I posted this to Facebook with that video:

Did you hear about the shooting at the school in Michigan today? Did you blow it off?

Do you remember going through that when you were a kid? Because I don’t. We didn’t have to, because people didn’t think guns were toys and playthings and status symbols and things to be used as threats on our neighbors and classmates and how you ended an argument.

Watch the video in the attached tweet of the shooter trying to con the kids into coming out. Luckily the kids didn’t buy it, but why should they even have to consider this? They shouldn’t have to worry about guns being in their school. They shouldn’t have to worry if they have barricaded the door enough and if the shooter will pass their room by or shoot into it, or if that person on the outside is actually a cop or the shooter.

Why are we in a world where kids have to deal with this? This wasn’t the way it worked when I was a kid, and the classrooms in my elementary school opened to the outside, and my high school was a set of buildings on a campus, not one big building like they are now. Why are they having to deal with this when other forms of crime are at half the level they were when we were kids?

Why? Because way too many adults are selfish and can only think about themselves. “My guns! You will not take away my guns. And if you try, you will find out what being on the wrong end of one means.” And the kids are hearing that, and coming to believe that’s how you end an argument, or a breakup, or to prove you’re better than someone else.

It’s time we treat guns the way we used to. Back when they were for hunting. Back to when you didn’t settle an argument with one (when they tried that in the Wild West, sheriffs like Wyatt Earp banned guns from their towns). My grandfather kept his in a display case, and we didn’t really worry about it being misused because he took them seriously and you didn’t cross him. Yes, people kept guns in their trucks, but they didn’t walk into a store with them. They weren’t toys.

And you know what adults do? They realize that they can’t have everything they want, especially if it costs others. There are far too many toy guns, guns that are playthings, like the AR-15 and similar guns, that aren’t guns you take seriously, they’re guns you buy to to threaten others with, to play a game where you get to be king and others live in fear. And we had those before, and like Tommy guns, we need to remove them from society (like the NRA at the time agreed with).

This is how adults are supposed to act. They’re not supposed to be so selfish that kids die.

facebook.com

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:41:17pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:43:04pm

re: #201 Semper Fi

Incompetent cops are everywhere.

If you do David Grossman’s police training, this is exactly what you should do.

It’s not that cops are fucking up on an individual basis, it’s that there both a culture and an infrastructure that sustains this. Each cop punished does not change the larger system because, internally, this is seen as normal and good. It’s the equivalent of the Catholic Church’s scandals: the perps live inside a world where it’s perfectly reasonable to be shocked and offended at the implication that the same thing happening over and over represents a problem…it’s not the right of anyone outside the group to judge.

As I’ve been saying for awhile, America’s been cloaking a discussion in the norms of “who is allowed to kill whom, when, with how much impunity” as a matter of the 2nd Amendment, an article that contains very little about use of lethal force. This is just the leading edge.

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nines09  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:44:59pm

re: #193 jaunte

Then they cuff a dead man.
It’s called murder.
That cop committed murder.
Normal day in America.
Shooting a man in a wheelchair in the back because he “pulled” a knife. On someone else.
Fired?
Lock his murdering ass up.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:49:14pm

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:54:11pm

Lock the father up too:

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2021 • 7:55:54pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2021 • 8:02:57pm
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retired cynic  Nov 30, 2021 • 8:06:48pm

What Happens to Democracy When Local Journalism Dries Up?
The end result is disastrous.
Margaret Brennan
washingtonpost.com

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mmmirele  Nov 30, 2021 • 8:29:24pm

I don’t have a link for this, just reports from Reddit, but a few things came out of the voir dire in Josh Duggar’s child sexual abuse material possession trial today:

1) According to an in person witness, 52 of the 60 potential jurors showed up for voir dire. Given the way voir dire was going (not well, apparently a Duggar in law was summoned, among other things), I suspect the marshals will be out rousting the missing eight into the courtroom. Also, the judge was questioning potential jurors in chambers, hmmm.

2) Jill Duggar Dillon, who married a guy named Derrick who was an accountant at Mall*Wart HQ, who then sponged off the largesse of his TV family until he bashed a transgender teen and got kicked off the TV show, well, Jill was announced as one of the witnesses in the trial. Jill was one of the Duggar daughters who was molested by Josh as a girl.

3) Also, a woman named Bobye Holt, who it is alleged knew that Josh was molesting his sisters from age 12, she is another of the named witneses. The witnesses were listed in open court after (I think) it became clear that Arkansas family trees are more like bushes. (Hello, both sides of my family, great grandparent generation, moved from Arkansas to Oklahoma around the turn of the 20th century. Both sides. In the same county. And why yes, there was a discussion about Mom and Dad being cousins in 1959. Probably not but hard to say.)

4) Jill Duggar also apparently has ditched the crunchy curly dark hair so beloved of her father, Jim Bob, and dyed her hair blonde. I have not found a picture, but this is not an unknown thing in these trials involving religious types. One of Warren Jeffs’ “wives” (escapee), she dyed her hair blond and wore a shocking red dress to court when she testified. That’s because Warren taught that red was a color reserved for Jesus and banned it. So I could see Jill dyeing her hair.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 30, 2021 • 8:45:51pm

No racism to see here, folks. Move along, move along.

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mmmirele  Nov 30, 2021 • 8:55:14pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Same with me.

Vegans have starved their children and carnivorous pets like cats (children should not be raised on a vegan diet).

Children need protein to build their growing bodies. And now I will shout for everyone in the back:

CATS ARE OBLIGATE CARNIVORES AND MUST HAVE MEAT IN THEIR DIET. A VEGAN DIET WILL KILL YOUR CAT.

But we all knew that already, right? I certainly know it every time I walk downstairs and that obligate carnivore who runs my household is alternately meowing/purring up a storm, hoping for meat.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 8:56:21pm
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JC1  Nov 30, 2021 • 9:08:41pm

re: #166 Dangerman

It’s the economy stupid.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2021 • 9:11:00pm
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sagehen  Nov 30, 2021 • 9:18:07pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 9:23:50pm

re: #214 Dread Pirate Ron

A NYTimes column discussed women, such as Savita Halappanavar, who died because abortions were illegal and doctors were afraid to perform abortions until the fetus had died, at which time it was too late to save the mother. The article also mentioned a Texas woman who was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy; apparently due to the draconian law that SCOTUS refuses to overturn, doctors were concerned about their potential legal liability and recommended the patient leave the state; she went to New Mexico where fortunately the surgery was successful. Like almost every Texas Republican, Cornyn has expressed no opposition to the Texas law. But unless something remarkable happens, such as 2 GOP justices departing the court and replaced by Biden, it is likely that sometime in 2022 abortion will be outlawed in over two dozen states.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2021 • 9:30:17pm

re: #214 Dread Pirate Ron

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Does anybody wanna take a sec to point out to John that we’re also on an international short list of countries that do not guarantee paid maternity and sick leave? Or that we’re virtually the only nation in the “West” that does not have universal health care? Both items that, if the US got in line with the rest of the world, would increase access to resources that would lead to fewer unwanted/dangerous pregnancies?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2021 • 9:38:42pm

re: #193 jaunte

Who was threatened by this wheelchair bound man even if he had a knife? If he shoplifted, then just arrest him. No need to straight up execute him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 30, 2021 • 9:46:19pm

re: #216 Dave In Austin

re: #217 sagehen

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:05:00pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:14:06pm

So I see history continues to repeat itself, as Qevin finds himself on the same course as John of Orange did, watching his caucus slowly become crazier and more bloodthirsty as he quietly hopes he can keep the whole damned clown car together long enough to become Speaker.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:14:17pm

re: #221 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Gotta do something with all that fish jizz in our drinking water.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:15:21pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:30:33pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

So I see history continues to repeat itself, as Qevin finds himself on the same course as John of Orange did, watching his caucus slowly become crazier and more bloodthirsty as he quietly hopes he can keep the whole damned clown car together long enough to become Speaker.

Didn’t Paul Ryan encounter the same problems when he took over Boehner’s caucus? With the additional handicap of a demented President? Didn’t he ultimately find that being Speaker was not worth it?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:35:23pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:37:59pm

re: #226 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t Paul Ryan encounter the same problems when he took over Boehner’s caucus? With the additional handicap of a demented President? Didn’t he ultimately find that being Speaker was not worth it?

Yep. What’s even funnier is that Qevin dropped out of the running for the Speakership when Boehner called it quits because the “Freedom Party” and their unofficial partners in the future MAGAt caucus thought he was too much like Boehner and wanted somebody “more conservative” (trans: crazier). Which was why Ryan had to be begged to take the job.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2021 • 10:44:17pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 11:06:52pm
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Moe Avattar  Nov 30, 2021 • 11:20:42pm

re: #20 Sherlock Hound

If veganism didn’t exist, you’d have no way to feel superior to others!
///

There are plenty of other ways to feel superior to others! You could do CrossFit, or brag about not owning a television, or loudly refuse to use Facebook…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2021 • 11:21:58pm

re: #231 Moe Avattar

Getting mad at vegans works pretty good, I hear.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 30, 2021 • 11:28:48pm

What sort of demented soul uses Central Time?

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 12:49:32am

William Hartmann is an antivaxxer who just died from Covid. You may also remember that he tried to block the certification of the votes in Wayne County, Michigan because he was none to happy about black people voting for Joe Biden. He remained a prominent advocate of the Big Lie until he fell ill. sorryantivaxxer.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 1:49:15am

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

* which he isn’t
** depends on the definition of genius — being a brilliant conman?
*** which he definitely is.

He also plays the media and press like a fiddle, they love him and go out of their way to coddle him, even when they seem to be criticizing him, it is not in any way that hurt his authority.

It took a quarter million Covid deaths to get him out of office, and even then a large part of the media is still coddling and even encouraging his claims that he did not lose.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 1:50:40am

re: #26 Dangerman

and there are legitimate substitutes for things

but why cant I simulate X if i can make it with these ingredients instead of those - yeah sometimes it works, other times i dont see the point in trying

I “cheat” and soak my soy granulate in beef broth to use in chili or spaghetti sauce. Nearly impossible to tell the difference between that and ground beef.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 1, 2021 • 2:08:26am

re: #233 Dread Pirate Ron

What sort of demented soul uses Central Time?

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Why Texas of course….. You would have to ask?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 2:16:13am

re: #99 Hecuba’s daughter

I am not a vegan but one of my nephews is. I have my own idiosyncrasies in eating — my BIL always complains that he cannot keep track of food on my “never touch” list, except that he knows that I refuse red meat. Why do I object to green olives but love black olives? What’s my problem with cucumber? It’s a mystery!

I have have a number of prejudicial preferences (black over green olives) but the only things I refuse to eat outright would be organ meats, blood sausages or other offal.

There are plenty of foods I will not eat if prepared in a way that ruins them (canned green beans, for example) but my “absolutely will not eat” list is rather small.

I am also wary of any sort of pre-prepared spaghetti or pizza sauce, I have had severe allergic reactions to a couple of them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 1, 2021 • 2:21:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 2:36:02am

re: #193 jaunte

Tucson officer fired after fatally shooting [61 yr old] man in motorized wheelchair 9 times from behind.
azcentral.com

Do not watch video. This was an execution.

Jeez, all he had to do was hit the tires.

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BigPapa  Dec 1, 2021 • 2:37:49am

Me noticing all the pro vax advocates and scientists dying from COVID:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 2:39:58am

re: #216 Dave In Austin

We need legislation to ban masturbation. 👇
“Yes, it’s certainly as alive as any…cells…it can have a life of its own outside the body, each sperm is…an independent single-celled organism - like a living amoeba… differing in locomotion & lifestyle.”

mine have an audible heartbeat after six weeks…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 2:41:39am

re: #232 The Ghost of a Flea

Getting mad at vegans works pretty good, I hear.

yes, it has caused many of them to rethink their attitudes about bacon cheeseburgers…

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 3:31:04am

re: #227 Dread Pirate Ron

Hey Ted, that’s not how the Bible works, my friend. Here’s a hint: “But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 3:43:55am

re: #244 Dopamine Fish

Hey Ted, that’s not how the Bible works, my friend. Here’s a hint: “But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’”

The Free Market demands sacrifice. We exist in order to serve it.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 3:48:23am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Free Market demands sacrifice. We exist in order to serve it.

You can’t serve both God (the Christian God depicted in the Bible, anyway, not the god these yokels worship) and Capitalism. But what am I saying? I’m preaching to the choir here, and if I were to even merely suggest such to one of these right-wing Christofascists, they’d call me a heretic.

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jeffreyw  Dec 1, 2021 • 3:48:54am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 3:54:01am

The Fundamentalists are as selective in reading Adam Smith as they are reading the Bible.

Smith is clear that government has a role in ensuring that markets work to the benefit of everyone: producers as well as consumers, employers as well as employees, borrowers as well as lenders, etc…

An unregulated market is naturally going to skew to the interests of those with the most money concentrated in the fewest hands.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 1, 2021 • 4:08:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 4:21:10am

re: #249 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

not gonna watch a 15-minute video. Can you give us the summary / moral of story?

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dat_said  Dec 1, 2021 • 4:21:26am

re: #233 Dread Pirate Ron

What sort of demented soul uses Central Time?

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I’m wondering why they estimated the airtimes instead of calculating them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 4:23:51am

re: #251 dat_said

I’m wondering why they estimated the airtimes instead of calculating them.

assuming they are subject to change…

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dat_said  Dec 1, 2021 • 4:28:36am

re: #252 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

assuming they are subject to change…

They should have then written “based on estimated US EST” rather than “estimated from US EST”. And, yes, I’m needlessly parsing words.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 4:34:18am

A couple of milestones on the JHU Covid website. U.S. deaths have passed 780,000, and 60% of the population is fully vaccinated. coronavirus.jhu.edu

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 4:59:02am

The price dropped over Thanksgiving:

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:04:02am

re: #121 jaunte

Repubs in disarray.

The ground state of modern Republicans /Libertarianism is tribal warlord chaos. They are devolving into this before our eyes and it is merely normal expectations by the mainstream press and by today’s Republican voters.

Democrats are expected to adhere to the tenants of proper civilization, hence any internal conflict is “disarray.”

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William Lewis  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:06:31am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not gonna watch a 15-minute video. Can you give us the summary / moral of story?

Basically Kepler wrote a defense of the Heliocentric system in the form of a story about a dream about a boy. The metaphors he used came across as “magic” to some readers leading to his mother being tried as a witch. The footnotes of the story which he was never able to afford to get published show an understanding of the laws Newton would later be famous for writing. Lots of snide remarks about the people of the time. The end.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:08:42am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:15:18am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #257 William Lewis

The 17 century was a time of a great deal of local strife over religious fervor. Witches were an easy target.

Kepler was a man of his times but also well ahead of his time.

Tibees (video maker) is one of the more thoughtful presenters on math and physics. She stop pursuing a Ph.D. (she did a lot of videos over that) and appears to instead following a path of educating the masses about science and math.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:25:48am

Nothing will damage him. This will just cement in the minds of his supporters that covid is no big deal (conveniently forgetting his trip to the hospital).

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:29:29am

From CNBC:

“White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters Trump was tested for Covid-19 on Air Force One as he traveled to the debate hall in Nashville, Tennessee.”

[I will never lie to you.]

cnbc.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:32:19am

re: #255 Belafon

Feels a little weird to see gas drop 30-40 cents in five days and not see any headlines or even social media chatter about that?

Sort of like how Trump never mentioned it when the stock market fell…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:34:41am

re: #257 William Lewis

Basically Kepler wrote a defense of the Heliocentric system in the form of a story about a dream about a boy. The metaphors he used came across as “magic” to some readers leading to his mother being tried as a witch. The footnotes of the story which he was never able to afford to get published show an understanding of the laws Newton would later be famous for writing. Lots of snide remarks about the people of the time. The end.

Thank you. There was more at stake to Heliocentricism than just the relative positions of the celestial bodies: it threatened to throw an entire ideology and system of society & governance into question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:37:21am

re: #260 Barefoot Grin

Nothing will damage him. This will just cement in the minds of his supporters that covid is no big deal (conveniently forgetting his trip to the hospital).

I really have no interest in hearing any further revelations about him and his misdeeds unless they are presented as part of formal charges before a criminal court of justice.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:43:25am

re: #260 Barefoot Grin

Nothing will damage him. This will just cement in the minds of his supporters that covid is no big deal (conveniently forgetting his trip to the hospital).

Thank dog he didn’t infect and kill Joe Biden.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:44:25am

re: #265 No Malarkey!

Thank dog he didn’t infect and kill Joe Biden.

I suspect he was somewhat disappointed that he failed…

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:46:14am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect he was somewhat disappointed that he failed…

He would’ve tweeted that it proved that Biden wasn’t man enough for the job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:47:17am

re: #267 No Malarkey!

He would’ve tweeted that it proved that Biden wasn’t man enough for the job.

And the Fundamentalists would have called it God’s Divine Will and Providence…

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:50:49am

Today is the day that the Supreme Court hears oral argument in the case that will end the constitutional right to abortion. Frankly, I hope they explicitly reverse Roe, rather than gut it while pretending its still good law. That is the slap in the face the country needs to wake up to the fascist threat to democracy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:54:29am

re: #269 No Malarkey!

Today is the day that the Supreme Court hears oral argument in the case that will end the constitutional right to abortion. Frankly, I hope they explicitly reverse Roe, rather than gut it while pretending its still good law. That is the slap in the face the country needs to wake up to the fascist threat to democracy.

They will find some way of leaving it stand while making it moot and unenforceable…for the very reason you mentioned.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:57:31am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will find some way of leaving it stand while making it moot and unenforceable…for the very reason you mentioned.

That would certainly be Rogers’ preference. I’m hoping the 5 reactionary Justices won’t be satisfied with anything less than full reversal of Roe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:58:59am

re: #271 No Malarkey!

That would certainly be Rogers’ preference. I’m hoping the 5 reactionary Justices won’t be satisfied with anything less than full reversal of Roe.

They are not idealists, just bastards…

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 1, 2021 • 5:59:02am

re: #231 Moe Avattar

There are plenty of other ways to feel superior to others! You could do CrossFit, or brag about not owning a television, or loudly refuse to use Facebook…

And there are no snobs like food snobs! (“I’m so pure I grind coffee beans with my teeth!”)

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:00:12am
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William Lewis  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:00:19am

re: #269 No Malarkey!

Today is the day that the Supreme Court hears oral argument in the case that will end the constitutional right to abortion. Frankly, I hope they explicitly reverse Roe, rather than gut it while pretending its still good law. That is the slap in the face the country needs to wake up to the fascist threat to democracy.

Eh, presumes that even that would get the kiddies out for a midterm election. History says they won’t and will blame the Democratic party for the loss.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:01:15am

re: #273 Sherlock Hound

And there are no snobs like food snobs! (“I’m so pure I grind coffee beans with my teeth!”)

…only after they have been hand-picked by nude Peruvian virgins and then passed through the intestines of a Bolivian civet cat

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:09:31am

re: #275 William Lewis

Eh, presumes that even that would get the kiddies out for a midterm election. History says they won’t and will blame the Democratic party for the loss.

History hasn’t seen a constitutional right stripped from more than half the population before, so we’ll see. The GOP silence over Texas ending abortion rights indicates they are worried.

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:11:06am

re: #260 Barefoot Grin

Nothing will damage him. This will just cement in the minds of his supporters that covid is no big deal (conveniently forgetting his trip to the hospital).

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I’m old enough to remember when MAGAts were passing around conspiracy theories that the Biden campaign and the debate mods had collaborated to somehow secretly infect Trump with COVID at the debate.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:13:51am

re: #155 darthstar

His wife is still touting ivermectin, and the only thing is that she’s standing by his side… six feet taller than he is.

Hell is too kind for these people.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:16:19am

re: #274 Belafon

Distribution of where those shots are matters.

Even in high vaccination states like NY, there is a wide distribution of counties with high vaccination rates, and those with low rates.

Northern NY counties have far lower vaccination rates than NYC. That’s due in no small part to the vaccination mandates imposed by NYC. Mandates work. Cases will soar in the low vaccination areas of states, even in states with high overall vaccinations.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:21:07am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are not idealists, just bastards…

This article agrees that Rogers, Kavanaugh and Barrett may look for a compromise short of total reversal of Roe, perhaps allowing states to ban abortion after the first trimester, when the vast majority of abortions occur. The irony of that is that people who get late abortions mostly wanted their babies, but a serious health threat to the mother arises, or there are defects in the fetus leaving it nonviable or severely disabled. slate.com

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:23:34am

re: #281 No Malarkey!

They’ll invalidate SB 8 in Texas, and uphold the Mississippi law, enabling restrictions down to 16 weeks. And the Court will be cheered for this, even as womens rights are restricted due to the imposition of a religious belief about conception and life that is not grounded in fact or science.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:26:35am

re: #282 lawhawk

They’ll invalidate SB 8 in Texas, and uphold the Mississippi law, enabling restrictions down to 16 weeks. And the Court will be cheered for this, even as womens rights are restricted due to the imposition of a religious belief about conception and life that is not grounded in fact or science.

The only silver lining to that is that the forced birth zealots will be outraged at the betrayal by their hand picked Justices not protecting life from the moment of conception.

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gocart mozart  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:26:59am
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gocart mozart  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:27:34am
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mmmirele  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:27:35am

re: #233 Dread Pirate Ron

What sort of demented soul uses Central Time?

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Every g-d server in the enterprise, because the important data centers are in Central Time. Which makes it FUNNNN to document for an incident (where accurate timing is important) because we report on Eastern Time.

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gocart mozart  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:28:10am


Case in point:

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:29:30am

re: #284 gocart mozart

Bo was a one of a kind athlete.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:30:47am

So, latest book to come out by a former Trumpworld sycophantic suckup notes that Trump was already sick with covid three days before the debate with Biden, and he was going to hide this fact, knowing that he may well give covid to Biden and Biden’s family.

They were going to knowingly infect everyone around them in hopes he could incapacitate or kill his political rivals.

These people are beyond redemption. They are sociopaths who belong in prison. Trump was a typhoid Mary. He was knowingly spreading covid19 to everyone he came in contact with. He nearly died himself. He nearly killed Christie.

And these people are still sucking up to Trump, even after all the crimes and malfeasance. Trump certainly knew how to pick his suckups. Craven cowards who are sociopaths themselves. They don’t know right from wrong. They don’t care about anyone but themselves, and even then, they’re going to ignore facts and reality and buy into Trump’s blustering bulkshit because they don’t want to appear weak in front of the bully Trump.

Trump is a bully’s bully. He made Christie look like a wimp.

And all of them have a body count - hundreds of thousands of Americans are dead because of Trump and his covid19 policies and response. The media continues to enable Trumpworld figures to try and rehab their image when the only thing they should all be remembered for is enabling the worst mass killing in US history and violating more federal laws than any admin in history.

The DOJ and justice in America is ill-prepared to deal with crimes of this scope and scale. It certainly can’t handle the political aspects of the crimes involved. And that means future elections are in grave peril as well.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:33:52am

Biden is on pace to create more jobs in his first year than Trump did in his first three. Biden’s economic plan helps to create more wealth spread across a far greater number of Americans than Trump’s tax scam could. This means economic growth at a higher rate because more people have more available income to spend.

This is all a good thing, which means that the usual suspects will caterwaul about inflation and higher costs for certain goods/services, all while ignoring all the shortages due to Trump’s failed covid19 response.

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gocart mozart  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:34:39am

Found this YouTube channel last night. It seems there was a regular feature in a British paper where rock stars would give their opinions on new pop songs. Pretty cool, too bad it’s just some guy reading the printed piece rather than there own voice. Here’s a few.

Jimi Hendrix Reviews the Singles of June, 1967


John Lennon Reviews the Singles of December, 1965


This is the best one

Syd Barrett Reviews the Singles of July, 1967

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:34:42am

re: #247 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:34:47am

re: #282 lawhawk

They’ll invalidate SB 8 in Texas, and uphold the Mississippi law, enabling restrictions down to 16 weeks. And the Court will be cheered for this, even as womens rights are restricted due to the imposition of a religious belief about conception and life that is not grounded in fact or science.

Totally upending the careful compromise that the Burger court reached in putting the original cut-off at 23 weeks, where medical science said (and still says) that most fetuses are considered “viable” and thus can survive outside the womb. But you can be sure that there will be quickly be voices aplenty in the legacy media praising such a move and insisting that pro-choice folks accept this new “compromise” because the alternative was allowing total bans.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:37:54am

re: #290 lawhawk
Thanks President Biden!! Let’s Go Brandon!!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:38:14am

re: #284 gocart mozart

I remember seeing that on a highlight reel. Mr. T was pumped. It’s a shame Bo had that hip injury. He could have been a great in both sports. I was rooting for the Brewers this post season tbh. Really like the talent they’ve assembled in a competitive division.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:39:30am

re: #293 Targetpractice

Totally upending the careful compromise that the Burger court reached in putting the original cut-off at 23 weeks, where medical science said (and still says) that most fetuses are considered “viable” and thus can survive outside the womb. But you can be sure that there will be quickly be voices aplenty in the legacy media praising such a move and insisting that pro-choice folks accept this new “compromise” because the alternative was allowing total bans.

That’s exactly where this is headed, and the talking heads and pundits at the NYT, WaPo, and elsewhere will claim that this is a good deal for all, even as it essentially means a de facto ban on abortion in these states.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:40:41am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:43:21am

re: #296 lawhawk

That’s exactly where this is headed, and the talking heads and pundits at the NYT, WaPo, and elsewhere will claim that this is a good deal for all, even as it essentially means a de facto ban on abortion in these states.

Not really, if abortion is still constitutionally protected in the first trimester when most abortions occur. It will be a huge burden on women who develop life threatening complications late in pregnancy, or find out their babies are nonviable or severely disabled. Women will die once states can ban late term abortions, as we have seen in other countries.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:46:17am

Short thread

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:46:30am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:47:48am

re: #300 No Malarkey!

Typhoid Donald. Really there’s no depths of scum that he didn’t sink to. Who knows what else is out there that isn’t known right now.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:51:06am
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Dangerman  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:53:45am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:54:19am

re: #302 No Malarkey!

I have hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Haven’t felt any heart problems since my vaccine. In fact, I’ve gotten into electric biking a little bit and the gym.

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:55:13am

re: #296 lawhawk

That’s exactly where this is headed, and the talking heads and pundits at the NYT, WaPo, and elsewhere will claim that this is a good deal for all, even as it essentially means a de facto ban on abortion in these states.

Yep. The line will be as it always is: “It must be a good compromise because nobody’s happy.” That cutting 7 weeks from the cut-off should be seen as “good enough” if it means that abortion remains legal. And there will be all sorts of finger-wagging about how women ought to know they’re pregnant and have made up their minds by 16 weeks, that they don’t need those additional 7 weeks to decide if they want to keep a “baby” or not.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:55:59am

re: #303 Dangerman

Gah that guy and Dr. Ronny. Lot of unethical behavior to protect the delusion that Trump was a medical marvel of physical fitness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:57:53am

re: #306 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Gah that guy and Dr. Ronny. Lot of unethical behavior to protect the delusion that Trump was a medical marvel of physical fitness.

Unfortunately, they will probably escape any sort of consequences for this.

I really want to see charges brought against Trump: he will not last more than about 40 seconds on the stand without contradicting himself or other sworn testimony.

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Dangerman  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:58:10am

re: #277 No Malarkey!

History hasn’t seen a constitutional right stripped from more than half the population before, so we’ll see. The GOP silence over Texas ending abortion rights indicates they are worried.

“Afghanistan”* vs abortion rights is not a 2022 winner for the Rs

*bananastan

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:58:35am

Another thing that helps us to remember how much of a sociopath Trump is is that he and his handlers were bitching up to just before the debate about the set-up of the stage and went fucking ballistic at the suggestion of having plexiglass separating the two.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 6:59:39am

re: #304 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I have hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Haven’t felt any heart problems since my vaccine. In fact, I’ve gotten into electric biking a little bit and the gym.

That abstract will convince a lot of people not to get vaccinated, and many of them will die as a result.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:00:12am

re: #309 Targetpractice

Another thing that helps us to remember how much of a sociopath Trump is is that he and his handlers were bitching up to just before the debate about the set-up of the stage and went fucking ballistic at the suggestion of having plexiglass separating the two.

I do. God they’re such scummy people even for right wingers.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:00:34am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unfortunately, they will probably escape any sort of consequences for this.

I really want to see charges brought against Trump: he will not last more than about 40 seconds on the stand without contradicting himself or other sworn testimony.

No responsible attorney defending him would allow him to testify.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:01:01am

re: #310 No Malarkey!

That abstract will convince a lot of people not to get vaccinated, and many of them will die as a result.

Yeah I’m worried about that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:02:49am

re: #313 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I’m worried about that.

Surprised that my woo-woo ex SiL has not posted that one yet, she was posting something similar last week about athletes suddenly collapsing and dying and whether it was linked to vaccines.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:04:43am

You can now get a Secret Jewish Space Laser Corp patch, and half of profits go to defeat insane QAnon candidates.

dissentpins.com

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:05:51am

re: #310 No Malarkey!

That abstract will convince a lot of people not to get vaccinated, and many of them will die as a result.

The abstract will be used by people who won’t get the shot as another excuse to not get it.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:06:38am
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Dangerman  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:08:19am

re: #296 lawhawk

That’s exactly where this is headed, and the talking heads and pundits at the NYT, WaPo, and elsewhere will claim that this is a good deal for all, even as it essentially means a de facto ban on abortion in these states.

Imo moving to 15 weeks won’t please either side while yeah the talking heads spin it as you say

What it might do is save the Republicans from a devastating midterm

Who says chief justice of the supreme court Roberts isn’t a political animal?

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:11:32am

re: #318 Dangerman

Imo moving to 15 weeks won’t please either side while yeah the talking heads spin it as you say

What it might do is save the Republicans from a devastating midterm

Who says chief justice of the supreme court Roberts isn’t a political animal?

Ayep, much like he saved the GQP from the fury of killing the ACA outright in favor of knee-capping it by making the Medicaid expansion optional, he’ll save them again from voter fury by only hobbling RvW.

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Mattand  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:12:37am

On brighter medical news: scheduled my booster for next week.

So COVID will not stop me from showing you my TED talk on how green bean consumption had a direct correlation on the outcome of the Battle of Chancellorsville.

I envy you people.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:12:40am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:12:51am

Another mass shooting last night, this time in Georgia. news.yahoo.com

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Dangerman  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:13:10am

re: #316 Belafon

The abstract will be used by people who won’t get the shot as another excuse to not get it.

Ivermectin and hydroxycloroquin kill.
Someone proves that almost every day

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:13:38am
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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:15:20am

Oz is a Republican quack, even if he thinks you should get the vaccine:

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:15:59am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:21:17am

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:23:26am

re: #324 Belafon

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Wasn’t the Moderna CEO just saying the other day that he figured the existing vaccines would be nowhere near as effective and they’d have a new vaccine specifically for Omicron “soon”?

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:28:02am

Another sentencing for nonviolent picketing on January 6.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:29:44am

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:34:21am

A belated good morning from Southern Idaho.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:34:38am
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:40:05am

re: #328 Targetpractice

Wasn’t the Moderna CEO just saying the other day that he figured the existing vaccines would be nowhere near as effective and they’d have a new vaccine specifically for Omicron “soon”?

AstraZenica have said the opposite about their vaccine. My 2 doses were Moderna, but my 3rd will not be based on what’s being said.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:42:05am

re: #328 Targetpractice

Wasn’t the Moderna CEO just saying the other day that he figured the existing vaccines would be nowhere near as effective and they’d have a new vaccine specifically for Omicron “soon”?

Beware of early results. Often more a product of impatience than careful lab work.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:48:46am

re: #328 Targetpractice

Wasn’t the Moderna CEO just saying the other day that he figured the existing vaccines would be nowhere near as effective and they’d have a new vaccine specifically for Omicron “soon”?

I think the Pfizer and Moderna CEOs have said nearly those words after every variant.

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nines09  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:51:14am

The Dr. Oz Show’ taken off the air in Philadelphia, New York City due to Pennsylvania Senate run.
Per Philly Inquirer;

TV host Mehmet Oz is officially running for Pennsylvania’s open U.S. Senate seat, and as a result, his long-running talk show will no longer air — at least in Philadelphia.

Fox made the decision Tuesday to remove The Dr. Oz Show from the airwaves in the Philadelphia and New York City markets, according to a spokesperson. It’s unclear what will replace it in the 2 p.m. timeslot on Fox 29.

The move comes as questions remain about the future of Oz’s show. During an interview on Fox News Tuesday night, host Sean Hannity alluded to Oz’s show ending by noting the host stands to take a big hit financially. But Oz hasn’t addressed whether his show will continue to air directly, and Sony Pictures Television is currently evaluating options on how to move forward, according to a spokesperson. The website for his show currently redirects to his campaign website.

The Dr. Oz Show premiered in 2009, thanks in large part to the celebrity doctor’s appearances on Oprah Winfrey’s show. Over the years, Oz has been criticized for promoting questionable diet pills and unscientific medical advice. In 2020, he made regular appearances on Fox News and promoted the antimalaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a way to treat COVID-19, despite the lack of scientific evidence.

And here comes the “He could have stayed in TV and made millions but he’s out here fighting to throw back the socialist agenda.”
Saint Oz.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:56:02am

And here comes the “He could have stayed in TV and made millions but he’s out here fighting to throw back the socialist agenda.”

But he already HAS made millions.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 1, 2021 • 7:59:23am

re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg

And here comes the “He could have stayed in TV and made millions but he’s out here fighting to throw back the socialist agenda.”

But he already HAS made millions.

Now it’s time to pull up that ladder.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:00:08am

Thread following the arguments in SCOTUS on Dobbs. Kavanaugh question indicates that merely because the Court will reverse Roe doesn’t mean that it is banning abortion nationwide.

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nines09  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:01:17am

re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg

Everything is never enough.
And he will self fund his Senate run too.
The dolts worshipped the fact Trump took no Presidential salary. Ignored the fact that he cost taxpayers millions with his golf and rallies.
You’re asking amoeba to rationalize.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:01:37am

re: #339 No Malarkey!

Thread following the arguments in SCOTUS on Dobbs. Kavanaugh question indicates that merely because the Court will reverse Roe doesn’t mean that it is banning abortion nationwide.

Of course not, the goal is to allow Red states to ban it while letting blue states allow it, just like it was before Roe.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:01:49am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:02:12am

re: #339 No Malarkey!

Thread following the arguments in SCOTUS on Dobbs. Kavanaugh question indicates that merely because the Court will reverse Roe doesn’t mean that it is banning abortion nationwide.

No, they just want to make it so the religious fundamentalists can do whatever the fuck they want in the places they control, and turn their states into fucking Gilead if they really want to, while the sane majority in the rest of the country are powerless to help.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:02:32am

re: #340 nines09

Everything is never enough.
And he will self fund his Senate run too.
The dolts worshipped the fact Trump took no Presidential salary. Ignored the fact that he cost taxpayers millions with his golf and rallies.
You’re asking amoeba to rationalize.

Sorry, not buying this. He’ll start grifting as bad as Trump did and let his fans foot the bill.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:03:02am

re: #322 No Malarkey!

Another mass shooting last night, this time in Georgia. news.yahoo.com

Sucks that one of the responding officers was killed. Biggest fear about these kinds of cases is that a suspect is a skilled shooter and not just a gun humper who has guns for show. They’re far more dangerous than some rando who thinks the size of the gun is what makes the difference. From the article this guy had a pistol.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:03:54am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

Sorry, not buying this. He’ll start grifting as bad as Trump did and let his fans foot the bill.

I’m self-funding. 800% matching donation!

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:04:08am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:05:07am

re: #347 jaunte

Isn’t she a mom?

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:05:11am

re: #347 jaunte

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OMFG

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nines09  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:06:10am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

Buying what? He’s a fraud. He will dupe the same idiots who watch his show. He will do as every well off candidate does and spend some of his money. He will play the same outsider game every single worthless grifting bag of offal does in the Cult. He will be supported by the Republicans as one more malleable stooge to rubber stamp the policy of fascism.

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:06:25am

If a nine year old can give up her baby when it’s born, how does that affect her life at all?

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:07:17am
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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:09:10am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:10:31am

re: #353 jaunte

Forget it, Harry, they’re born-again believers.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:11:07am

COVID is killing some of the people who think they made it past the crisis.
Severe Covid infection doubles chances of dying in following year, study finds (The Guardian)

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:11:28am

re: #353 jaunte

We already knew that Alito, Gorsuch and Thomas are votes to reverse, rather than merely gut Roe. I strongly suspect Barrett and Kavanaugh will join them, rather than accept some compromise Roberts attempts to fabricate.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:13:06am

re: #355 Punish Domestic Terrorists

COVID is killing some of the people who think they made it past the crisis.
Severe Covid infection doubles chances of dying in following year, study finds (The Guardian)

Like this guy, who had severe Covid in June 2020 and recently died of the complications. sorryantivaxxer.com

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:14:16am

dobbs-v-jackson-womens-health-organization-oral-argument
c-span.org

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:14:35am

re: #357 No Malarkey!

Here’s the sub-headline:

Research suggests serious bouts of illness with coronavirus may significantly damage long-term health

File this under, “NO SHIT, SHERLOCK.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:14:49am

re: #347 jaunte

Barrett apparently has no problem with the words “force a woman”.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:15:32am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Barrett apparently has no problem with the words “force a woman”.

Under his eye.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:16:48am

I hate how everyone is obsessed with only one side of the abortion situation.

If you are going to try and force women to carry more pregnancies to term then HOW ABOUT SOME HELP FOR THE FUCKING KID after it’s born??

But no, as soon as the pregnancy is over, the right wing immediately brands the mother a lazy welfare queen if she dares to apply for assistance and goes on with their day.

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:17:07am

5 of 9 SCOTUS judges were nominated by presidents who LOST the popular vote.
Not a legitimate court.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:17:47am

re: #363 jaunte

5 of 9 SCOTUS judges were nominated by presidents who LOST the popular vote.
Not a legitimate court.

Yay for the Electoral College.

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A Cranky One  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:18:10am

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:19:16am

re: #357 No Malarkey!

Like this guy, who had severe Covid in June 2020 and recently died of the complications. sorryantivaxxer.com

They all sound like teenagers. He killed himself with a virus while going on about “kicking its ass.”

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:19:37am

re: #363 jaunte

5 of 9 SCOTUS judges were nominated by presidents who LOST the popular vote.
Not a legitimate court.

No, but we have to deal with it as-is because, like it or not, it was put in place by the rules that we have. We also have to get to a point where we can change the fucking rules, because it’s not fair that a vocal minority gets to de facto rule this country simply because they said so.

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:19:58am

The dishonesty here is off the charts.

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:21:38am

re: #367 Dopamine Fish

Roberts knows he’s on thin ice here, preparing to make half the population officially less than human. The rest don’t care.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:22:34am

re: #357 No Malarkey!

Like this guy, who had severe Covid in June 2020 and recently died of the complications. sorryantivaxxer.com

Just waiting for my lungs to get back in shape now that I’m not coughing up blood. His lungs were so scarred from his first bout with Covid-19 he spent the rest of his life on high flow oxygen - even during his home stays. Walked from the couch to the refrigerator and back…KICKING COVID’S ASS! Right…

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:23:05am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:23:46am

re: #369 jaunte

Roberts knows he’s on thin ice here, preparing to make half the population officially less than human. The rest don’t care.

No sympathy for that prick.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:24:34am

Ooof.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:26:17am

re: #373 Rightwingconspirator

Ooof.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:26:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:27:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:28:24am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:29:31am

re: #376 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was one, military conscription. I doubt you will ever see another draft, even though registration is still required.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:30:53am

They are going to reverse Roe.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:35:19am

Reminder: We all knew the currently stacked Supreme Court was going to undo as much of abortion rights as they could. That is literally the only reason they were appointed, unfairly, over the objections of the majority of voters in the country. The Republicans played by the technicalities of the rules, they got what they wanted, and this is the inevitable result.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:37:02am

re: #379 No Malarkey!

They are going to reverse Roe.

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I look forward to Biden’s four new SCOTUS appointees.

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Dangerman  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:37:18am

re: #379 No Malarkey!

They are going to reverse Roe.

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those cases were decided morally and constitutionally wrong and were subsequently corrected

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:37:55am

re: #380 Dopamine Fish

Reminder: We all knew the currently stacked Supreme Court was going to undo as much of abortion rights as they could. That is literally the only reason they were appointed, unfairly, over the objections of the majority of voters in the country. The Republicans played by the technicalities of the rules, they got what they wanted, and this is the inevitable result.

If they do this, we’re going to see how many people are still OK with the radicalized Republican party after a coup attempt and the enslavement of American woman. That number is going to be utterly disgusting.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:38:05am

re: #382 Dangerman

those cases were decided morally and constitutionally wrong and were subsequently corrected

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:39:17am

re: #382 Dangerman

those cases were decided morally and constitutionally wrong and were subsequently corrected

Right-wing authoritarians think it’s morally wrong for women to control their own bodies.

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:39:29am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:39:45am
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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:40:07am

So we decided to go up and already put the third bathroom in upstairs…still got a ways to go.
(From KING5 News in Seattle after a recent wind storm)

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:40:12am

re: #380 Dopamine Fish

Reminder: We all knew the currently stacked Supreme Court was going to undo as much of abortion rights as they could. That is literally the only reason they were appointed, unfairly, over the objections of the majority of voters in the country. The Republicans played by the technicalities of the rules, they got what they wanted, and this is the inevitable result.

This is exactly why I can’t watch the play by play. Seen this one debated all my life, all I can do is await a result, hope for the best.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:40:29am

re: #329 No Malarkey!

Another sentencing for nonviolent picketing on January 6.

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Humble Pie-30 Days In The Hole

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JC1  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:42:59am

re: #318 Dangerman

Imo moving to 15 weeks won’t please either side while yeah the talking heads spin it as you say

What it might do is save the Republicans from a devastating midterm

Who says chief justice of the supreme court Roberts isn’t a political animal?

Roberts isn’t enough. One of the Trump appointees would have to join him, assuming that Alito or Thomas wouldn’t.

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:45:17am

The MAGAt 6 seem to be on the same page about overturning, but are now trying to find some loophole to say that they didn’t really rule to overturn but simply to “fix a mistake.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:45:34am

re: #391 JC1

Roberts isn’t enough. One of the Trump appointees would have to join him, assuming that Alito or Thomas wouldn’t.

Bingo. It’s a 6-3 court with Roberts counted on the Conservative side.

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JC1  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:45:48am

re: #324 Belafon

I hope this pans out, but if I’m reading that thread correctly, the sample size was 4 positive cases. That’s completely meaningless.

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:47:09am
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A Cranky One  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:47:18am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:57:31am

re: #395 jaunte

Justice Thomas has certainly found a strange time to suddenly get chatty on the bench after all these years.

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:58:34am

re: #381 darthstar

I look forward to Biden’s four new SCOTUS appointees.

The next Republican President will pack the court no matter how much of a majority they have. They can have all of the Justice chairs filled and still pack the court with 5 more younger Justices who will toe the line with every hard right wing policy ready to be implemented. Enough is never enough for their mindset. More and more power is all that matters.

Biden and the rest of us will rue the fact he didn’t try to pack the court during his first month in office.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:58:58am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

Justice Thomas has certainly found a strange time to suddenly get chatty on the bench after all these years.

Enslaving women is a topic that excites him.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:59:15am

Kavanaugh has made it crystal clear that he thinks you have to choose between the interests of the woman and the interests of the fetus, and he is going to reverse Roe to allow the states to make that choice. Does anyone think Barrett and Gorsuch won’t join him, Alito, and Thomas in reversing Roe?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 1, 2021 • 8:59:35am
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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:00:24am

re: #400 No Malarkey!

Kavanaugh needs a beer.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:02:22am

Okay…time to walk the dogs…remember, spelling counts.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:03:06am

The argument is over. Now we just wait for their decision. I’ll be very surprised based on the questioning if they don’t reverse Roe.

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:03:09am

re: #400 No Malarkey!

Kavanaugh has made it crystal clear that he thinks you have to choose between the interests of the woman and the interests of the fetus, and he is going reverse Roe to allow the states to make that choice. Does anyone think Barrett and Gorsuch won’t join him, Alito, and Thomas in reversing Roe?

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Hell, some of this questioning makes it clear that if they can find a way to swing it, they’ll blow past overturning Roe and Casey to outright establishing “fetal personhood.”

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:04:23am

re: #403 darthstar

Okay…time to walk the dogs…remember, spelling counts.

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When I first saw Children of the Corn it was on a rental Beta tape with a creepy flutter in the audio that made the movie so much better. Malachai!

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:04:52am

re: #405 Targetpractice

Hell, some of this questioning makes it clear that if they can find a way to swing it, they’ll blow past overturning Roe and Casey to outright establishing “fetal personhood.”

Alito might, but Kavanaugh’s questions made it clear he wouldn’t. That will have to wait until Trump can appoint some more Justices.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:05:28am

re: #353 jaunte

Let’s also note that exposures to covid19 have increased miscarriages significantly. Abbott should be sued under his own idiotic SB8 for hundreds of miscarriages and premature terminations of pregnancies in Texas.

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:05:44am

re: #400 No Malarkey!

It’s not a choice when states like Texas place bounties on women if they leave the state to get an abortion. The concept of “voting with your feet” goes right out the window and in its place is interstate authoritarianism and bounty hunters just like early American slavery.

Could make a very cynical case for violation of Federal authority over interstate commerce though.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:07:51am

re: #409 Florida Panhandler

It’s not a choice when states like Texas place bounties on women if they leave the state to get an abortion. The concept of “voting with your feet” goes right out the window and in its place is interstate authoritarianism and bounty hunters just like early American slavery.

Could make a very cynical case for violation of Federal authority over interstate commerce though.

Anyway, the good news is that Roe will be reversed before the midterm elections, rather than after. If anything can save the Democratic majority in Congress, it will be the backlash to that.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:10:37am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

Justice Thomas has certainly found a strange time to suddenly get chatty on the bench after all these years.

Ginny’s been making bank for a long time to ensure he would chat up a storm about overturning Roe.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:13:01am

re: #411 Teddy’s Person

Ginny’s been making bank for a long time to ensure he would chat up a storm about overturning Roe.

Thomas has actually been asking questions this term. I guess he didn’t want that to be the story with this case.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:14:10am

re: #412 No Malarkey!

Thomas has actually been asking questions this term. I guess he didn’t want that to be the story with this case.

The Supreme Court finally became a safe space for Clarence.

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mmmirele  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:19:27am

re: #298 No Malarkey!

Not really, if abortion is still constitutionally protected in the first trimester when most abortions occur. It will be a huge burden on women who develop life threatening complications late in pregnancy, or find out their babies are nonviable or severely disabled. Women will die once states can ban late term abortions, as we have seen in other countries.

And at that point it’s going to be hard to restrain me from dropping off symbolic body bags representing real women’s lives in front of Justice Handmaid’s Tale’s house. And that’s only because the Supreme Court has restrictions on protests in front of their building.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:22:20am

re: #374 No Malarkey!

There is no neutral. You either decide women have a right to an abortion or you don’t.

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A Cranky One  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:23:10am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:23:24am

So when do we get a decision on this? Right before Christmas?

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:23:56am

re: #381 darthstar

I look forward to Biden’s four new SCOTUS appointees.

When Manchin and Sinema are made irrelevant.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:26:11am

The happenings at the Supreme Court today are not surprising to anyone paying attention, like the good folks here at LGF, but it still feels like being smacked upside the head by a two by four.

I think I’ll start a think tank whose sole purpose is overturning Marbury v. Madison.

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:31:17am

Based upon what we heard, I’d say we’ve a 5-3-1 split of the SCOTUS bench: 5 in favor of overturning Roe and Casey, 3 against, and 1 trying desperately to push a “compromise” that his colleagues have no interest in entertaining.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:33:31am

re: #405 Targetpractice

Hell, some of this questioning makes it clear that if they can find a way to swing it, they’ll blow past overturning Roe and Casey to outright establishing “fetal personhood.”

Then fetus life insurance policies will bankrupt the insurance industry. Per some findings only 30% of conceptions result in live birth.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:35:29am

re: #421 Eventual Carrion

Then fetus life insurance policies will bankrupt the insurance industry. Per some findings only 30% of conceptions result in live birth.

The policies would be priced based on that data, so it would be extremely expensive.

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jaunte  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:37:22am
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Citizen K  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:40:45am

So while the writing’s been on the wall for years, it’s fully apparent now that we have a Supreme Court all too willing to relegate women to the legal status of ‘incubator’ and transfer all their legal rights and personhood to their unborn child for the term, and will only consider restoring them upon natural, live birth.

And there’s nothing we can fucking do to stop it. We can try and put a band-aid on it later, or hope blithely for a chance to undo it in a later court, but with the pattern that our electorate has given us for decades, I’m hesitant to hold out hope for regaining a majority in the SCOTUS for at least another gen and a half.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:42:12am

re: #415 Belafon

There is no neutral. You either decide women have a right to an abortion or you don’t.

Kavanaugh has decided they don’t, that much is clear. He would leave it up to the states to decide if they can get a legal abortion or not.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:43:40am

re: #417 Eclectic Cyborg

So when do we get a decision on this? Right before Christmas?

Sometime next year. The abortion clinics in states with trigger laws might as well start making plans to close now.

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:43:57am

re: #424 Citizen K

So while the writing’s been on the wall for years, it’s fully apparent now that we have a Supreme Court all too willing to relegate women to the legal status of ‘incubator’ and transfer all their legal rights and personhood to their unborn child for the term, and will only consider restoring them upon natural, live birth.

And there’s nothing we can fucking do to stop it. We can try and put a band-aid on it later, or hope blithely for a chance to undo it in a later court, but with the pattern that our electorate has given us for decades, I’m hesitant to hold out hope for regaining a majority in the SCOTUS for at least another gen and a half.

Alito was the most blatant in this view, but it was a clear undercurrent in the questions asked by his fellow wingnuts. They are trying so damned hard to find some way to argue for fetal “personhood” without saying it out loud. Right now, it looks like they’re planning on going with the “bad ruling” bit and expecting future courts to just swear off any future rulings on the subject.

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Citizen K  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:44:31am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:46:13am

re: #420 Targetpractice

Based upon what we heard, I’d say we’ve a 5-3-1 split of the SCOTUS bench: 5 in favor of overturning Roe and Casey, 3 against, and 1 trying desperately to push a “compromise” that his colleagues have no interest in entertaining.

There is no basis for a compromise. If previability isn’t the line at which a woman can choose, what is? An arbitrary date Roberts pulls out of a hat?

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:48:09am

re: #425 No Malarkey!

Kavanaugh has decided they don’t, that much is clear. He would leave it up to the states to decide if they can get a legal abortion or not.

He and the rest of the GOP have decided that they’ll leave it up to the rich to decide if they want to get abortions, and everyone else will have to scramble to figure out how at a far greater cost.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:48:23am

I don’t think this is exclusive to Judge Beer.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:48:33am

re: #429 No Malarkey!

There is no basis for a compromise. If previability isn’t the line at which a woman can choose, what is? An arbitrary date Rogers pulls out of a hat?

Do you mean Roberts?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:51:30am

If this bullshit doesn’t motivate democratic voters for next year’s midterms……

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:53:14am

The problem is even IF Roberts joins the more Liberal side, you’d still need ANOTHER justice to do the same to get a ruling upholding Roe.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:58:52am

re: #432 Belafon

Do you mean Roberts?

Either Mr. Rogers or Steve Rogers would be a lot better on the court.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:59:04am

re: #430 lawhawk

He and the rest of the GOP have decided that they’ll leave it up to the rich to decide if they want to get abortions, and everyone else will have to scramble to figure out how at a far greater cost.

And far greater risk to their health.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 9:59:55am

re: #432 Belafon

Do you mean Roberts?

Yes, my typo.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:00:31am

re: #433 GlutenFreeJesus

If this bullshit doesn’t motivate democratic voters for next year’s midterms……

This and the coup attempts, but Americans may now be too stupid to deal with the menace that threatens our nation.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:02:23am

re: #435 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Either Mr. Rogers or Steve Rogers would be a lot better on the court.

Steve Rogers wouldn’t allow Kavanaugh or Alito in the courtroom.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:02:36am

re: #438 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This and the coup attempts, but Americans may now be too stupid to deal with the menace that threatens our nation.

I believe this ruling will galvanize a generation of voters. If this doesn’t, then all hail King Donald of Orange, first of his name.

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Belafon  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:03:27am

re: #438 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This and the coup attempts, but Americans may now be too stupid to deal with the menace that threatens our nation.

80Million of them voted against Trump. We have a serious fight with all of the gerrymandering and stuff, but this will seriously motivate women.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:05:49am

re: #428 Citizen K

We have the highest maternal mortality rate among developed nations, and it’s about to go higher.

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Citizen K  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:10:30am

re: #441 Belafon

80Million of them voted against Trump. We have a serious fight with all of the gerrymandering and stuff, but this will seriously motivate women.

Thing is, 74mil+ voted FOR Trump. And we’re seeing just how fickle any kind of support that we can get can be, especially when the media has calcified their narrative so hard and so thoroughly to ‘Biden is the greatest historical failure in the history of ever, why don’t you hate him enough yet?!’ And unless this is the thing that breaks through their haze of GOP slobbering, we’re still going to run into the issue of the margins. Remember, a rather sizable majority of white women vote for exactly this shit, exactly what Trump offered, exactly what the Supremes are dishing out right now. And as made so painfully, painfully clear, the only hopes Dems have are pushing inroads and peeling off enough white votes to make up for the GOP’s structural and institutional advantages.

I hope there’s enough. But I’ve long stopped discounting the power of the overwhelming narrative and reflexive racism to hope too much.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:10:50am

Boys still know how to walk, even after six days without me.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:11:51am

I am at the doctors office right now for some blood tests and just about feeling run down. Across from me is a woman with no mask(sign on the door says you have to have one) with a smirk on her face and her legs spread wide open while wearing tight leggings. If I felt better I would throw shit at her. She’s chewing her nails and coughing. She’s been in and out the door now three times. I hope she leaves. Fucking asshole.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:12:39am

The pandemic seems to be over at my apartment complex. They’re no longer calling to ask about symptoms before sending maintenance over, and maintenance doesn’t wear masks anymore.

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darthstar  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:13:31am

re: #445 A Mom Anon

Sounds like she needs two masks.

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Targetpractice  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:16:01am

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is even IF Roberts joins the more Liberal side, you’d still need ANOTHER justice to do the same to get a ruling upholding Roe.

I can’t imagine that Roberts would join with his liberal colleagues unless they were willing to agree to his “compromise.” And since that’s unlikely to happen, what we’re likely going to get is a majority opinion overturning, a minority opinion basically saying that it’s all politics, and one lone voice going “But I thought we could all agree with my cool idea!”

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sagehen  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:16:05am

re: #398 Florida Panhandler

Biden and the rest of us will rue the fact he didn’t try to pack the court during his first month in office.

a 50-50 Senate doesn’t allow Biden to do most of the things he and his supporters would like. Stop blaming him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:19:13am

re: #435 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Either Mr. Rogers or Steve Rogers would be a lot better on the court.

Just please not Aaron Rodgers.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:21:30am

re: #447 darthstar

She’s gross. She’s back inside again. I’m certain the staff is avoiding confrontation and it looks like we’re the last two appointments of the day, the office closes at 2:30. With her stupid Coach purse and 200 dollar sneakers. I hate people like her. Hate them. She just got called back to see the doctor, so I don’t have to see her stupid face for awhile.

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Dangerman  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:21:42am

re: #449 sagehen

a 50-50 Senate doesn’t allow Biden to do most of the things he and his supporters would like. Stop blaming him.

Neither would a 58 majority

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sagehen  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:22:36am

re: #416 A Cranky One

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March 28, 2018
Wall Street Journal

“An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated Benjamin Netanyahu said Moses brought water from Iraq. He said the water was brought from a rock.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:24:28am

Possible troubles in Elon-land:

SpaceX employees received a nightmare email over the holiday weekend from CEO Elon Musk, warning them of a brewing crisis with its Raptor engine production that, if unsolved, could result in the company’s bankruptcy. The email, obtained by SpaceExplored, CNBC, and The Verge, urged employees to work over the weekend in a desperate attempt to increase production of the engine meant to power its next-generation Starship launch vehicle.

“Unfortunately, the Raptor production crisis is much worse than it seemed a few weeks ago,” Musk reportedly wrote. “As we have dug into the issues following exiting prior senior management, they have unfortunately turned out to be far more severe than was reported. There is no way to sugarcoat this.”

SpaceX did not immediately respond to Gizmodo’s request for comment but Musk did Tweet about the report Tuesday afternoon.

“The magnitude of the Starship program is not widely appreciated” Musk tweeted. “It is designed to extend life to Mars (and the moon), which requires ~1000 times more payload to orbit than all current Earth rockets combined.” Though Musk did not confirm or deny the email’s veracity he spoke to its content saying that, while he did not believe bankruptcy was likely, it wasn’t impossible either. The CEO went on to apparently quote Intel founder and former CEO Andrew Grove, writing “only the paranoid survive.”

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Citizen K  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:25:22am

re: #449 sagehen

a 50-50 Senate doesn’t allow Biden to do most of the things he and his supporters would like. Stop blaming him.

Like, even under the the most ideal situation possible with a 50-50 Senate, we’d run into a lot of roadblocks, especially with how the media has gone out of its way to hang every failure of the current administration, real, exaggerated, and wholly imagined, as The Worst Thing Ever and Proof That Dems Are The Worst At Gov’t Ever. And I don’t need to say that we don’t even have close to the ideal situation under that 50-50 count. I can’t imagine how brutal the media and the polls would be if Biden and Dems tried and failed in an attempt to expand the court.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:27:38am

re: #448 Targetpractice

I can’t imagine that Roberts would join with his liberal colleagues unless they were willing to agree to his “compromise.” And since that’s unlikely to happen, what we’re likely going to get is a majority opinion overturning, a minority opinion basically saying that it’s all politics, and one lone voice going “But I thought we could all agree with my cool idea!”

I guess its theoretically possible that Roberts could cobble together a coalition of the three liberals, him and Barrett to maintain a right to choose during the first trimester when most abortions are done anyway. It might seem to Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor a better option than abortion being banned entirely in half the country. It seems unlikely though. I don’t know why Amy (“women can just abandon the baby when its born, so what’s the big deal?”) Barrett would go for that.

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nines09  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:29:04am

re: #446 Punish Domestic Terrorists

My freezer came last Saturday. The delivery text told me they care for their employees and I should wear a mask when they arrive.
I did.
They did not.
Poof!
There goes your tip.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:31:05am

re: #455 Citizen K

Like, even under the the most ideal situation possible with a 50-50 Senate, we’d run into a lot of roadblocks, especially with how the media has gone out of its way to hang every failure of the current administration, real, exaggerated, and wholly imagined, as The Worst Thing Ever and Proof That Dems Are The Worst At Gov’t Ever. And I don’t need to say that we don’t even have close to the ideal situation under that 50-50 count. I can’t imagine how brutal the media and the polls would be if Biden and Dems tried and failed in an attempt to expand the court.

Expanding the Court is a nonstarter right now. We would have to see a backlash so massive that the Democrats expand their majorities in both the House and the Senate, and even then it seems unlikely.

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mmmirele  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:32:14am

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jeff Durbin is an awful person. He really does want to execute women who have abortions. He wants Arizona’s pre-Roe law to come back into force and more. He harasses women at the Tempe Planned Parenthood. /signed, I’ve met him, he’s said this stuff to me. His cult is in my neighborhood.

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sagehen  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:32:36am

re: #441 Belafon

80Million of them voted against Trump. We have a serious fight with all of the gerrymandering and stuff, but this will seriously motivate women.

when red-red-red South Dakota tried to outlaw abortion via ballot measure, it failed miserably. Republican women might just think this is more important than their tax rates.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:33:58am

Maybe she didn’t resemble Ivanka enough.

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sagehen  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:35:59am

re: #452 Dangerman

Neither would a 58 majority

Sure it would. A 58 majority would mean they could overturn the filibuster, even over Manchin and Sinema’s objections..

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:37:55am

Andy Borowitz

Dr. Oz Hopes to Replace Rand Paul as Biggest Quack in Senate

“In the many times he’s grilled Dr. Fauci, has he ever asked him about the health benefits of magic coffee beans or umckaloabo-root extract?” Oz said. “I think America deserves a senator who will ask those tough questions.”

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No Malarkey!  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:42:16am
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Ming5000  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:57:12am

re: #104 wrenchwench

LOL. This got me:

I said, ‘Hurts half as much, right?’ He said, ‘Well, it is half the dose…’ Then, ‘Ready? On three. One, two, three.’ That’s gotta be the worst way to give a shot. And it hurt. I told him it hurt twice as much, and he said, ‘All I have left is these big needles. They gotta send me some more smaller needles.’ That may have been a good thing I have a mask on moment.

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lawhawk  Dec 1, 2021 • 10:58:38am

re: #439 Belafon

Hail Hydra!

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wrenchwench  Dec 1, 2021 • 11:02:52am

re: #465 Ming5000

LOL. This got me:

Got you? It got me. My arm started hurting again after I got home yesterday.I slept OK, but my back feels funny because I couldn’t sleep on my usual side. Arm is starting to feel better.


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