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aatharuv  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:24:11am

From the previous thread:
re: #276 jaunte

A state level EC is still a bad idea — the Republicans would immediately rejigger county boundaries to give maximum benefits to any Republican candidate.

Edit:
And they would do this for _every_ state wide election. The benefit of winner take all is that for state wide elections Democrats can win regardless of the gerrymandered boundaries. Would Democrats have one state wide elections in:
Kentucky, Georgia, Michigan, or Arizona, with Republicans in control of state legislatures?

Edit 2:
It’s the Republicans who always want to end direct elections for the Senate. That’s why. Don’t forget that the progressive Lincoln _won_ the popular vote in the Senate race against Douglas — it was the state legislature that voted to send Douglas against the wishes of the people.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:35:06am
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Belafon  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:35:12am

re: #1 aatharuv

From the previous thread:

A state level EC is still a bad idea — the Republicans would immediately rejigger county boundaries to give maximum benefits to any Republican candidate.

Edit:
And they would do this for _every_ state wide election. The benefit of winner take all is that for state wide elections Democrats can win regardless of the gerrymandered boundaries. Would Democrats have one state wide elections in:
Kentucky, Georgia, Michigan, or Arizona, with Republicans in control of state legislatures?

Edit 2:
It’s the Republicans who always want to end direct elections for the Senate. That’s why. Don’t forget that the progressive Lincoln _won_ the popular vote in the Senate race against Douglas — it was the state legislature that voted to send Douglas against the wishes of the people.

They’re not going to redraw county boundaries. That would be a nightmare. At least here in Texas, counties are a state governing level with their own authority, resources, and relationship with the state government.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:38:07am
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aatharuv  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:42:28am

re: #279 Belafon

There is no way, no way, they would be able to shift county boundaries.

re: #3 Belafon

They’re not going to redraw county boundaries. That would be a nightmare. At least here in Texas, counties are a state governing level with their own authority, resources, and relationship with the state government.

The powers of counties vary — their power is purely an internal detail of a state’s government. The only federal government involvement that I can think of are
- a judicial rulings that state legislative seats need to be equal by population — no state Senate’s with equal numbers of seats per county.
- Administrative definitions of first level divisions of states for Census, and other administrative purposes

Alaska has county equivalents called boroughs, but most of the state (by land area) is not part of a formal borough. Hawaii has one school district for the entire state crossing all county boundaries, and one county which is governed by its state department of health (the only remaining colony for those with leprosy).

I believe that in Massachusetts, they’re vestigial, except for the courts, but I haven’t lived there in a very long time and don’t remember the details.

Say Foo county is at the urban/rural cutoff area — convert it into one 100% Urban county, and another 40% Urban 60% rural county. (They might want to make the Urban numbers lower to stave off Urbanization that’ll flip it back blue.

Depending on what the state’s constitutional amendment procedure is, it might not even need a governor to sign off on it, or if there’s already a Republican governor, it’s all the more easier.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:46:55am

From last thread re: Nutcake with shotgun in front of UN
re: #268 No Malarkey!

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The UN has been targeted before, with considerably more firepower.

NYT 12 December 1964:
Bazooka Fired at U.N. as Cuban Speaks; Launched in Queens, Missile Explodes in East River

United Nations Headquarters was fired upon yesterday with a 3.5-inch bazooka from across the East River. The attack coincided with a demonstration by anti‐Communist Cubans at the front entrance against the presence of Maj. Ernesto Che Guevara of Cuba.

A single shell from the bazooka, a portable rocket launcher used by, the Army, arced across the river from Queens and fell harmlessly about 200 yards from shore. The blast sent up a geyser of water and rattled windows in the headquarters just as Major Guevara, Havana’s Minister of Industry, was denouncing the United States.

Shortly before, a hysterical woman brandishing a hunting knife with a seven‐inch blade detached herself from 50 antiGuevara pickets and tried to force her way into the front entrance. The police subdued the leather‐jacketed woman, and later quoted her as saying she intended to assassinate Major Guevara.

And a week and half later…..
Three Castro Foes Arrested in Firing Of Bazooka at U.N

Three Cubans, understood to be opponents of the regime of Premier Fidel Castro, were arrested last night in the Dee. 11 firing of a bazooka shell toward the United Nations Headquarters.

Chief of Detectives Philip J. Walsh said eactt of the three was charged with endangering life maliciously by placing an explosive near a building, and with attempting to damage a building or a vessel, both of which are felonies. They were further charged with conspiracy, a misdemeanor..

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:47:55am
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mmmirele  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:50:48am

I finally read through the article about Black Oxygen Organics, and the company’s downfall wasn’t Health Canada, the FDA, anti-MLM people but…their payment processor. Visa and MasterCard hate chargebacks with the heat of a billion suns, and given that a lot of people in the US had ordered the dirt and hadn’t gotten it, their payment processor decided NOPE.

According to BOO President Carlo Garibaldi, they had weathered the FTC complaints, the FDA seizures, the Health Canada recalls and the online mob. But the “fatal blow” came when their online merchant dropped them as clients.

With no actual product in stock for the last two months, sellers had been urging customers to “preorder” BOO. Now, the throng of customers responding to the nonconsumable “reformulation” by asking for their money back had spooked their payment processor.

nbcnews.com

This is the same thing that happened to Jim Bakker’s scam last year after he ran into trouble for selling colloidal silver for Covid. He got cut off from credit processing and now you can only buy his “buckets of slop” with a check.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2021 • 11:56:57am
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Citizen K  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:00:10pm
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jaunte  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:08:57pm
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retired cynic  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:11:59pm

Divine Synchronicity?

RIVER DANCE - Chinese Style

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mmmirele  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:14:33pm
Utah Makes Welfare So Hard to Get, Some Feel They Must Join the LDS Church to Get Aid
Utah’s safety net for the poor is so intertwined with the LDS Church that individual bishops often decide who receives assistance. Some deny help unless a person goes to services or gets baptized.

propublica.org

My only comment on this is that I had multiple friends who fell on hard times when I lived in Utah. Since they were Mormon, they went to their bishop to try and get assistance from the Bishop’s Storehouse. I heard more than one story about how awful it was to have the Relief Society president go through their cupboards to see if they were worthy.

Oh, and if you got assistance, you were still expected to tithe, and to volunteer to work in the church. Blergh. This article is NO surprise.

ETA: The largest church in Utah is sitting on at least $38 billion under management at Ensign Peak, and according to the Wall Street Journal, has in excess of $100 billion in assets. That there are poor and homeless in areas where the church formerly known as Mormon is dominant is shameful.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:17:44pm

re: #3 Belafon

They’re not going to redraw county boundaries. That would be a nightmare. At least here in Texas, counties are a state governing level with their own authority, resources, and relationship with the state government.

You can’t distribute electoral votes by county anyway, because counties vary wildly in population, unless you are going to award fractions of electoral votes, which would be a nightmare. You would do it by congressional district, like Maine and Nebraska do, and congressional district boundaries are most definitely gerrymandered.

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darthstar  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:25:43pm

Decided to make room for a rolling workbench my neighbor is giving me. First thing I had to do was move a forty year old wooden bench out of the garage by myself. Will put it on nextdoor… Some reassembly required…

I was even able to move the couch my wife says will one day reupholster that was blocking the door all the way inside. It’s a nice couch, mid-century… But the cushions are totally shot.

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aatharuv  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:29:09pm

re: #13 mmmirele

propublica.org

My only comment on this is that I had multiple friends who fell on hard times when I lived in Utah. Since they were Mormon, they went to their bishop to try and get assistance from the Bishop’s Storehouse. I heard more than one story about how awful it was to have the Relief Society president go through their cupboards to see if they were worthy.

Oh, and if you got assistance, you were still expected to tithe, and to volunteer to work in the church. Blergh. This article is NO surprise.

ETA: The largest church in Utah is sitting on at least $38 billion under management at Ensign Peak, and according to the Wall Street Journal, has in excess of $100 billion in assets. That there are poor and homeless in areas where the church formerly known as Mormon is dominant is shameful.

From the article above:

State employees then explicitly recommended to Bellamy that she ask for welfare from the church instead, she and her family members said in interviews.

*snipped*
Although maintaining a safety net for the poor is the government’s job, welfare in Utah has become so entangled with the state’s dominant religion that the agency in charge of public assistance here counts a percentage of the welfare provided by the LDS Church toward the state’s own welfare spending, according to a memorandum of understanding between the church and the state obtained by ProPublica.

Wow. It’s like they forgot about the separation of Church and State.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:32:59pm

re: #12 retired cynic

Divine Synchronicity?

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Celtic culture well-appropriated. I’d like to talk to the manager.

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:35:26pm

Anyone shocked at this:

Researchers at the U.K.’s Newcastle University have found that as many as seven in 10 cryptocurrency trades on popular exchanges worldwide may involve people purchasing from themselves to inflate prices artificially. The researchers studied trades of the four most popular cryptocurrencies—bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, and Ripple—on 29 cryptocurrency exchanges from July to November 2019. The researchers uncovered large volumes of “wash trading,” in which investors sell and buy the same asset to create artificial interest in an investment, which generally distorts prices. They said such wash trading appeared to account for more than 70% of total trading volume on unregulated exchanges.

newscientist.com

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Decatur Deb  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:37:18pm

Just finished putting up the outdoor decorations—new LED strings. There were tons of warnings about electrical safety, not one word about fire ants. More regional bias, folks.

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mmmirele  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:39:41pm

re: #16 aatharuv

From the article above:

Wow. It’s like they forgot about the separation of Church and State.

It’s Utah…what separation of church and state?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:43:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:43:04pm

re: #16 aatharuv

From the article above:

Wow. It’s like they forgot about the separation of Church and State.

Or that they just don’t care about the separation of Church and State.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:44:00pm

re: #21 Dread Pirate Ron

All the science fiction I’ve seen and read leads me to believe this will not end well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:45:31pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

All the science fiction I’ve seen and read leads me to believe this will not end well.

/

Apparently, no matter what people with real life experience say…
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jeffreyw  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:47:07pm

jay bird finds the lack of peanuts concerning

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:50:19pm

re: #25 jeffreyw

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demands to speak with the manager…

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aatharuv  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:50:45pm

re: #20 mmmirele

It’s Utah…what separation of church and state?

Never been to Utah, the one time I could have gone there was when the airline tried to rebook me on a work trip to DC via a stop in SLC with no confirmed onward flight — I held out for rebooking to another East Coast airport and doing my first ever drive in either the dark or in snow instead, since well I had to be in DC for work ASAP.

It’s one thing to intellectually know they have crazy liquor laws, and it’s another thing to hear that the state is an adjunct of the church. Utah has a rep at being much better than the other red states at controlling poverty and homelessness, but that’s obviously even more than I thought due to the State working hand-in-hand with the Church.

*And yes, I know how many states have outsourced basic state services especially adoption agencies to private individuals.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:51:54pm

re: #12 retired cynic

Divine Synchronicity?

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Riverdance vs American Jazz Tap Dance, Dance-off

Riverdance Trading Taps

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No Malarkey!  Dec 2, 2021 • 12:55:41pm

Yet another talk radio host from Tennessee is dead of Covid. He didn’t learn a damn thing from the death of Phil Valentine. sorryantivaxxer.com

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:03:18pm

A Mom Anon:

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nines09  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:06:13pm

re: #25 jeffreyw

“SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES JEFF?!!??!!??? HUH?HUH?HUH?!!?!”

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jeffreyw  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:08:20pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

demands to speak with the manager…

Managment Is Supportive of Our Long-Time Customers
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:11:14pm

re: #29 No Malarkey!

Yet another talk radio host from Tennessee is dead of Covid. He didn’t learn a damn thing from the death of Phil Valentine. sorryantivaxxer.com

I have no sympathy for these people anymore. NONE.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:11:31pm
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Scottish Dragon  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:13:34pm

Oh my God I forgot this

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No Malarkey!  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:13:46pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

I have no sympathy for these people anymore. NONE.

One can only hope that some of his listeners will learn from the death of him and his wife. If not, well that means even fewer GOP voters come November.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:20:30pm

re: #30 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:39:19pm

Mohr Summer!!!

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:40:41pm

re: #37 A Mom Anon

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:41:57pm

re: #37 A Mom Anon

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Decatur Deb  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:42:00pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mohr Summer!!!

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Child has a knowing grin.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:42:24pm

Somebody trying to “citizen’s arrest” me at my house would likely not survive the experience.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:42:28pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:45:17pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:47:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:51:58pm

MrBWS’s daughter got her first dose today. She knows if she ever wants to see us again, she needs to be fully vaxxed, no excuses. (She tried to claim she was allergic to the flu shot, which I flat out told her was bullshit…a reaction does not mean allergic; also, she doesn’t have a problem scarfing deviled eggs…)

MrBWS also got a phone call this morning from the wife of his best friend since high school. Friend has been in the hospital for four weeks, is on a ventilator, and it’s not looking good.

dammit

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HRH Stanley Sea  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:54:00pm

re: #15 darthstar

Definitely re-do the sofa. In the same color.

Want.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 1:56:33pm

Something for Ace-o-Aces:

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:07:10pm

TFG couldn’t beat up an egg white.

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A Cranky One  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:09:02pm

re: #37 A Mom Anon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:10:35pm
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sagehen  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:11:29pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mohr Summer!!!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:12:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:12:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:13:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:14:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:16:59pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:18:18pm

We have a border with South Africa?

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sagehen  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:19:13pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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um…. 1973 was the Yom Kippur War. The Six-Day War was 1967.

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William Lewis  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:20:01pm

Kurstin x Grohl: The Hanukkah Sessions 2021: Night Five (Featuring Violet Grohl)

Kurstin x Grohl: The Hanukkah Sessions 2021: Night Five (Featuring Violet Grohl)

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BeachDem  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:23:01pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dear Ms. Fitch:

Bull to the shit.

(from 2018)

(Reuters Health) - - Women who want an abortion but are denied one are more likely to spend years living in poverty than women who have abortions, a new study suggests.

Carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term quadrupled the odds that a new mother and her child would live below the federal poverty line, researchers reported in the American Journal of Public Health…

The single most common reason women cite for wanting an abortion is because they cannot afford to raise a child, Foster said.


For women denied abortions, public-assistance programs failed to make up for the cost of a new baby and to pull households out of poverty, the study found.

reuters.com

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EPR-radar  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:24:21pm

re: #61 BeachDem

Anti-choicers lie all the time, just like every other major group in the GOP “big tent” of resentful degenerates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:26:13pm
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Dangerman  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:31:45pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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if exercising rights required ‘reasons’, the 2A would be in deep shit

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:33:21pm

re: #59 sagehen

um…. 1973 was the Yom Kippur War. The Six-Day War was 1967.

Right, I just noted that too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:33:50pm

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

We have a border with South Africa?

I swear I thought that was a damn parody tweet at first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:39:31pm

CR to keep the government going past Friday

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:40:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:41:14pm
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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:44:00pm

re: #40 Hecuba’s daughter

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:44:56pm
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jaunte  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:51:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:54:02pm
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nines09  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:56:24pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

David Simon doesn’t throw shade. He drops the building on them.

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EPR-radar  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:56:45pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s an amusing gotcha, but a secular concern for the value of human life can be substituted for “sanctity” to evade it.

Which is why my go-to argument these days in the abortion wars is that I will not listen to lies from death cultists pretending they care about human life. Yes, it is a logically invalid ad hominem argument, but politically it is 100% valid.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2021 • 2:58:31pm

Apparently
beauty pageant winner —> home ec major —> PR flack —> political operative —> Senator
is not a career path that delivers the best results for the nation.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2021 • 3:01:07pm
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EPR-radar  Dec 2, 2021 • 3:02:06pm

re: #78 jaunte

Apparently
beauty pageant winner —> home ec major —> PR flack —> political operative —> Senator
is not a career path that delivers the best results for the nation.

Anything that ends up with Senator (R) or Representative (R) is a failure for the nation. The paths taken to reach these deplorable outcomes are remarkably irrelevant.

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BeachDem  Dec 2, 2021 • 3:11:28pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

It’s an amusing gotcha, but a secular concern for the value of human life can be substituted for “sanctity” to evade it.

Which is why my go-to argument these days in the abortion wars is that I will not listen to lies from death cultists pretending they care about human life. Yes, it is a logically invalid ad hominem argument, but politically it is 100% valid.

My argument is:


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