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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2021 • 7:49:29pm

As I have done before, I want to share Sen. Chris Murphy’s email newsletter: this one about Ireland, Northern Ireland, the UK and Brexit. It is very long, so behind the tag.

My ancestors fled Ireland during the Great Famine and quickly discovered a proud Irish-American community in a state called Connecticut. First in Willimantic and Norwich, and then spread across the state, my family’s roots in Connecticut are long and deep, dating back to the Civil War era. But those roots begin in Ireland, and now, as an Irish-American with a seat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, I feel an obligation to be a voice for Irish-Americans and the U.S.-Ireland alliance.

That is why I took a three-day diplomatic trip to Belfast and London just before Thanksgiving, to speak for Irish-Americans at a critical moment on the Irish isle. What follows is a behind-the-scenes account of the trip. It’s a long read, but I hope it’s worth your time.

The Northern Ireland Protocol, Explained

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:00:28pm

I have an iPhone 11 pro? Wide angle, Etc. I haven’t seen a reason to upgrade beyond that, but I upgraded from a 7, so….

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:07:36pm

re: #2 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I use an iPhone 8, and it does what I need, so I haven’t upgraded. Money is an object.

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A Cranky One  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:14:55pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:15:22pm

re: #3 retired cynic

I use an iPhone 8, and it does what I need, so I haven’t upgraded. Money is an object.

Perzactly, the 7 was becoming soooooo laggy, I upgraded. Upgrading a 10? I don’t see it.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:27:40pm

At 4:34 my apartment complex sent out a personalized email about noise complaints, and the need to keep it down.

At 4:47, they sent out a note to clarify that the initial email was to all residents, once they realized what they’d done by personalizing the emails, probably because they’d started hearing back from people.

I read the 4:47 one first, working my way down my emails, so it went better for me than it will have for some other residents.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:39:19pm

re: #121 plansbandc

The new Annie is fabulous.

Am sorry I didn’t get to watch it live, but it’s on Peacock.

My father taught me to love musicals.

I’ll have to tell my wife you said that. She was reading that people were panning it.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:39:52pm

Utah crushed Oregon, 38-10, and the game wasn’t that close.

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gwangung  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:41:15pm

re: #7 Belafon

I’ll have to tell my wife you said that. She was reading that people were panning it.

Like….some of my musical theatre friends….

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:42:34pm

re: #2 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I have an iPhone 11 pro? Wide angle, Etc. I haven’t seen a reason to upgrade beyond that, but I upgraded from a 7, so….

My iPhone 6+ is still hanging in there.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:45:17pm

Ok, I made it through 15 seconds of the Princess Superstar video. I did find out that she had two top ten British hits back in the 2000s even though she’s an American rapper.

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mmmirele  Dec 3, 2021 • 8:53:50pm

With regards to the Crumbley parents withdrawing $4,000 via an ATM: Just going to point out that under normal circumstances, you can’t take out more than a few hundred dollars a day via the ATM. That’s actually for your protection, in case your card gets stolen, your account can’t be cleaned out.

You CAN get the limit raised by calling in. I did it once in front of an ATM in Pensacola because I needed about twice as much as my daily limit. I had a specific number in mind and I was at the ATM. The banker raised the daily limit temporarily so I could get the cash.

For the average demand deposit account holder, $4,000 is around 10 times as much as the standard daily limit. If I needed that kind of money, I would have gone into the branch, but obviously since they were in their area, this would have attracted attention in the branch. They probably thought it was easier to call and ask the banker to raise their daily limit to $4K. (Or asked what they could raise their limit to, and took that amount???) If they bank with my evil too big to fail employer, it’s entirely likely that the banker didn’t even recognize their name because none of our phone bankers are located in MIchigan.

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:04:06pm

re: #12 mmmirele

I have a daily max on my card of $500. ATM, groceries, whatever. When I bought my Leica I had to have the branch manager approve a one time limit raise to $3000 (more than needed but they prefer that in case I needed to do anything else that day) for that transaction.

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plansbandc  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:12:12pm

re: #7 Belafon

No! Well worth watching. Way better than the original movie, and a fun take on the original play.

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austin_blue  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:25:15pm

Off to bed. Be well, all, and be nice to each other.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:28:07pm

re: #15 austin_blue

Off to bed. Be well, all, and be nice to each other.

You’re asking a lot.

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Belafon  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:28:54pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:40:14pm

I like these kinds of adventure but in my case it’s on a much smaller scale/budget.

YouTube

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:43:42pm

re: #17 Belafon

No one good to root for here:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:47:51pm

Boring extremely local news about my hand physical therapy update: Hammered dulcimer edition. I have not attempted to play my dulcimer since January.

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Now my hands feel like they’ve been run over with a truck and my fingers work about as well as noodles.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2021 • 9:54:09pm

re: #17 Belafon

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Qevin’s finding himself in the same spot that John of Orange was in ‘09: Desperate to become Speaker, but the only viable path towards that requires keeping the crazies on his side.

Only thing that makes this go-around worse? McCain admitted he lost and didn’t sit around like a malignant tumor, causing hate and discontent within the party ranks by demanding fealty to himself if you wanted to win.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:30:13pm

re: #21 Targetpractice

Qevin’s finding himself in the same spot that John of Orange was in ‘09: Desperate to become Speaker, but the only viable path towards that requires keeping the crazies on his side.

Only thing that makes this go-around worse? McCain admitted he lost and didn’t sit around like a malignant tumor, causing hate and discontent within the party ranks by demanding fealty to himself if you wanted to win.

And the crazies now are far worse than those that Boehner faced. Gosar (why do I always think of Zuul on hearing that name ///?), MTG, Boebert, Cawthorn — aren’t they far worse than those under Boehner?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:42:32pm

So, I’m seeing that James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of the kid who shot up his school on Tuesday, are on the lam. Apparently, their vehicle has been found abandoned in Detroit, in the Islandview neighborhood.

Needless to say, Five-O is looking for them and there’s a $10K bounty for information leading to their arrest.

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RinaX  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:46:47pm

Apparently they got them.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:48:51pm

re: #22 Hecuba’s daughter

And the crazies now are far worse than those that Boehner faced. Gosar (why do I always think of Zuul on hearing that name ///?), MTG, Boebert, Cawthorn — aren’t they far worse than those under Boehner?

Yeah, it’s an all-around worse situation for Qevin because the crazies are not only crazier, but any “moderates” he might have hoped to throw their support behind him are keeping a low profile for fear of being the next target of the MAGAts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:49:06pm

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m seeing that James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of the kid who shot up his school on Tuesday, are on the lam. Apparently, their vehicle has been found abandoned in Detroit, in the Islandview neighborhood.

Needless to say, Five-O is looking for them and there’s a $10K bounty for information leading to their arrest.

Near Belle Isle. Crossing the border at a legal crossing point would be incredibly stupid (since either Customs and Border Protection leaving the USA or Border Services entering Canada are probably stopping everything). I imagine the Blue Water Bridge in Port Huron/Sarnia is also being watched.

Would they be dumb enough to try an illegal crossing over the Detroit River (maybe steal a boat or something)?

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:51:48pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:52:03pm

re: #24 RinaX

Apparently they got them.

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Looks like their “great escape” didn’t pan out.

Good.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:54:25pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Near Belle Isle. Crossing the border at a legal crossing point would be incredibly stupid (since either Customs and Border Protection leaving the USA or Border Services entering Canada are probably stopping everything). I imagine the Blue Water Bridge in Port Huron/Sarnia is also being watched.

Would they be dumb enough to try an illegal crossing over the Detroit River (maybe steal a boat or something)?

They’ve been taken into custody by Detroit Police.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:57:53pm

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

They’ve been taken into custody by Detroit Police.

Bugger and baggage bagged.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2021 • 10:58:49pm

Looks like they were hiding out in what seems to be an abandoned warehouse:

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RinaX  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:00:37pm

I hope they’re denied bond on Monday.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:03:11pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:07:02pm

re: #32 RinaX

I hope they’re denied bond on Monday.

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Hopefully - after all, they’ve clearly proven they’re a flight risk.

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EPR-radar  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:11:17pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Hopefully - after all, they’ve clearly proven they’re a flight risk.

If they do get out on bail, that would be one hell of an example of privilege.

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:11:40pm

re: #24 RinaX

Apparently they got them.

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Of course they’re in custody; they’re white. Could well have been armed, they were safe.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:13:04pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Hopefully - after all, they’ve clearly proven they’re a flight risk.

But are they a danger to the community? They didn’t hurt anyone. /s

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:15:11pm

Heh. News of the reward made it on the BBC website: bbc.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:20:21pm

And with each one, a wave of Covid-19 for the holidays.

Happy hours, holiday parties, and office gossip are back. For remote workers, the FOMO is real. (Careers Insider via Twitter Events)

Much is written about the professional opportunities remote employees miss by not working in person. But less is said about how they lose out on fun, social ties, and connections. As more people go back to work in person, some remote workers feel they’re missing out. Here’s how to deal with it.

That means 80% aren’t.

Twelve tweet thread. They are getting dragged badly. Everything from people saying no thanks to Covid-19, no one misses office parties, to “this is capitalist propaganda.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:38:55pm

Nick Caraway at Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon

The Source of Our Fears (December 3, 2021)

The funny thing about fear is that it is all a part of the same conversation. Women are afraid that their rights will be taken away after 48 years and that is the big news item of the day. Protesters from the summer and before were finally standing up to rogue law enforcement forcing people of color to live in fear of their lives when they encounter law enforcement. The fear I’m thinking of today is a lot closer to home.

It’s sad when you see that fear first hand. It’s heartbreaking when you see it in your own children. Our daughter’s school had a couple of days of bomb threats this week. Social media is doing what it does and managed to spread all kinds of rumors about what might happen. So, more than half the school decided to stay home yesterday. The principal said those absences would be excused. She obviously understood the impulse.

My wife and I sat there as our daughter cried when we discussed her coming to school today. We left it up to her. Forcing her to go seemed somehow cruel. Yet, she talked a long time about the guilt of avoiding a possible event. It didn’t make sense and yet it made perfect sense. She decided to go and yet the fear she is feeling is unavoidable. We can only hope it dissipates before it becomes a permanent thing.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:42:40pm

Yup. One guy in a business is worth all this money. I’m sure whatever success the business is having had nothing to do with any of its employees beneath him.

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Targetpractice  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:44:52pm

Their lawyer’s probably already trying to work a deal with the prosecutor’s office, trying to avoid a request for remand by offering to have their clients post bail, surrender their passports, and agree to either ankle bracelets or home arrest.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:48:45pm

Trafalgar Square clearly attempting to claim this years Charlie Brown Christmas Tree Large Public Display Award

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ckkatz  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:49:59pm

From a couple of threads ago:

re: #233 Decatur Deb

The photo that accompanied that article was not a mortar, it was for something breech-loaded, though that could be another problem.

Give Decatur Deb a cigar!

The shell is most likely from a 6lb’er World War Two British Anti-tank _gun_. Aka the 57mm gun in the US. It was a highly popular antitank gun in the early stages of World War 2. And, no it was not from a mortar.

Ordnance QF 6-pounder
en.wikipedia.org

The Brits also had a 2” mortar (51mm) but not a 6lb mortar.
Two-inch mortar
en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:52:28pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yup. One guy in a business is worth all this money. I’m sure whatever success the business is having had nothing to do with any of its employees beneath him.

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William Lewis  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:58:35pm

The more things change…
HMS Defender
USS Laboon
HNLMS Evartson

Off Crimea with a Russian Project 22160 patrol ship keeping watch.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 3, 2021 • 11:58:43pm

(2:19)

Best Charlie Freak-out

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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:01:45am

A whole bunch of wingnuts have been trying to go after Elizabeth Spiers (@espiers) on twitter because of her NYTimes Opinion article. And I think that the wingnuts have not been doing too well.

One of her tweets on Ben Shapiro today:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:04:52am
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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:08:57am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:11:20am

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

Glad to hear that the Crumbley’s have been caught. Apparently thinking through things is not their strong point.

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:14:06am
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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:16:21am

And… now that I have finally caught up, it’s time to head to bed. G’night all!
Let me leave you with a ‘Dad’ joke:

Did you hear about the town that legalized weed but banned alcohol?

The residents were left high and dry.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:17:11am
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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:17:22am

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yup. One guy in a business is worth all this money. I’m sure whatever success the business is having had nothing to do with any of its employees beneath him.

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Reading the article shows just how greedy this bastard is. Not only is he already a major source of controversy in Japanese business circles since he’s paid way in excess of his peers, but that $17M doesn’t include all the money he’s made steering the company’s money into his pockets by raising the value of his personal investments.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:23:25am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Something about how to grab an otter, I think.

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sagehen  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:23:49am

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Trafalgar Square clearly attempting to claim this years Charlie Brown Christmas Tree Large Public Display Award

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Queen Victoria would not be amused.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:25:03am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:29:46am

All cryptocurrencies are crashing.

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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:34:03am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Interesting tweet on ‘polywork’, thanks for posting it!

I guess that I have never seen anyone successfully manage 5 different careers simultaneously. Maybe that is my failure.

The closest I have seen to it was a couple of grifters pretending to be technical consultants. But even with them, their job was grifting, not the other stuff they claimed that they were doing.

On the other hand, some of the consultants I have met were impressive and highly productive sme’s (subject matter experts). But they had very clear boundaries on what they claimed they could do.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:35:47am

And they can have her.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:35:51am

re: #51 ckkatz

Glad to hear that the Crumbley’s have been caught. Apparently thinking through things is not their strong point.

Seems to me like they outright panicked and ran, and didn’t really think anything through beyond some vague notions. They were just making it up as they went along.

They might’ve had some thought they could hide out in that abandoned warehouse for a few days until the heat was lower and then try to hoof it to Canada (or elsewhere), probably not realizing that would fail just as miserably.

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:36:07am

This is the heart of everything Russia does or says about either country (and Belarus, when and if it comes to that). For the Kremlin, they’re not real countries with sovereignty and independence; they’re errant livestock that have been temporarily detached from Russian control, and need to be returned by the West to their proper owners.

But the United States is the imperialist, see.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:38:44am

So, from the Crumbley press conference. Found in a room of a commercial building after car siting called in by citizen. Surrendered without problems. Handed over to Oakland County/Oxford PD, who were present at the time of apprehension. Investigation ongoing apparently looking into if someone purposefully gave them access to the building, and if charges may follow.

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:42:49am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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A quick check seems to indicate that “polywork” is a shorter term than “Millenials fucking refuse to be cubicle rats anymore.”

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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:44:28am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

All cryptocurrencies are crashing.

From Nov 16, 2021:

The crash comes less than a week after bitcoin hit a new record high, jumping just above $69,000. This came as part of a wider rally following a market crash earlier this year, a response to an intensifying regulatory crackdown in China and growing concerns over bitcoin’s environmental impact. The crash wiped many of the gains made throughout the pandemic, when the volatile market thrived due to numerous factors including an influx of retail investors, more options to trade digital currencies and the popularity of meme stocks and tokens driven by online forums on sites like Reddit and celebrity endorsement.

What We Don’t Know

It’s not clear why the cryptocurrency market is crashing, though there are several factors that could contribute. Chinese authorities renewed efforts to crackdown on cryptocurrency mining Tuesday, slamming the energy consumption and carbon footprint of the process. China’s earlier crackdown on mining saw cryptocurrency miners flee the country en masse, many of whom landed in the U.S. Another possible reason could be responses to President Joe Biden’s infrastructure bill, which includes provisions for potentially regulating and taxing cryptocurrency.

Hundreds Of Billions Lost As Major Cryptocurrencies—Including Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, Cardano—Tumble In Crypto Crash

forbes.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:47:09am

Wingnuts outraged at the “Jeopardy” champion.

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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:53:19am

Another thought on the cryptocurrency crashes, although I don’t yet have any hard data…

Cryptocurrencies are very useful for money laundering. Iirc, tfg was, and likely still is, involved in money laundering.

I wonder if the Biden Administration is beginning to plug up the regulatory holes created by tfg and his co-conspirators. As well as reimposing and enforcing financial sanctions on tfg’s foreign friends.

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2021 • 12:59:03am

re: #68 ckkatz

Another thought on the cryptocurrency crashes, although I don’t yet have any hard data…

Cryptocurrencies are very useful for money laundering. Iirc, tfg was, and likely still is, involved in money laundering.

I wonder if the Biden Administration is beginning to plug up the regulatory holes created by tfg and his co-conspirators. As well as reimposing and enforcing financial sanctions on tfg’s foreign friends.

Cryptocurrency is also swimming in bullshit self-dealing. I read from some analyst that the estimate is 70% of crypto transactions on the scummier (i.e. most of them) trading sites are between wallets and accounts controlled by the same party to run the prices up.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2021 • 1:05:37am

Off to do some stuff. Back later.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 1:10:32am
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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2021 • 1:25:08am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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*sigh*

This “advice” is on the same level as the assholes who tell you that becoming a millionaire is easy because all you gotta do is stop eating avocado toast, start saving money, and get your parents to loan you a few hundred thousand dollars in starter funds.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 1:51:18am

re: #72 Targetpractice

*sigh*

This “advice” is on the same level as the assholes who tell you that becoming a millionaire is easy because all you gotta do is stop eating avocado toast, start saving money, and get your parents to loan you a few hundred thousand dollars in starter funds.

Having one child in the Eighties was expensive as all get-out (no hospital, he was born at home).

We did use cloth diapers (a diaper service in Norfolk), but diaper services aren’t available except in large cities.

But the rest of that? “Toxic healthcare system?” Feed your child table scraps? Apparently your child is supposed to breastfeed until they move out to college? Daycare just falls off the money tree?

I really hope that woman gets a whole box of cluebats before she decides to have a child.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 1:53:41am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:01:57am

Meanwhile in the pro-natal camp:

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:14:13am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Having one child in the Eighties was expensive as all get-out (no hospital, he was born at home).

We did use cloth diapers (a diaper service in Norfolk), but diaper services aren’t available except in large cities.

But the rest of that? “Toxic healthcare system?” Feed your child table scraps? Apparently your child is supposed to breastfeed until they move out to college? Daycare just falls off the money tree?

I really hope that woman gets a whole box of cluebats before she decides to have a child.

It’s all in the phrase used: “babies are expensive.” Like I said, the whole argument reeks of privilege, of the kid who grew up with money unable to comprehend why people around them aren’t able to be “thrifty” by just giving up a “luxury.”

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:15:52am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Meanwhile in the pro-natal camp:

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I want a federal insurance settlement to cover the failure of my unicorn farm, which went bankrupt due to the unexpected nonexistence of all of the unicorns. That’s a lot of money, dammit!

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Dangerman  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:23:52am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Hopefully - after all, they’ve clearly proven they’re a flight risk.

Nah
They were just sightseeing
You know…tourists

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Dangerman  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:36:20am

From the overstate the fucking obvious files

Wapo oped

It’s time to say it: The conservatives on the Supreme Court lied to us all

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jeffreyw  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:36:57am

Good morning!

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:37:09am

For those interested, the longest game in world chess championship history was played, resulting in the first win in a championship chess match in years. fivethirtyeight.com

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:38:29am

re: #79 Dangerman

From the overstate the fucking obvious files

Wapo oped

When absolutely everyone knew they were lying, except possibly Susan Collins (naw, she was lying as well) does it count as lies?

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:42:46am

re: #78 Dangerman

Nah
They were just sightseeing
You know…tourists

The cops just “intuitively” knew they were decent folks and wouldn’t blow town. I can’t imagine what sort of cop “intuition” led to that sort of conclusion; it’s a mystery, white? Er, right?

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Targetpractice  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:45:50am

re: #79 Dangerman

From the overstate the fucking obvious files

Wapo oped

What’s this “It’s time” business? Everybody knew they were lying as they sat before Congress. If you truly went through those confirmation hearings genuinely believing they were honest about their belief that RvW was “settled law,” then I’ve got some oceanfront property in Nevada I’m selling for cheap.

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Belafon  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:46:26am

re: #77 ericblair

I want a federal insurance settlement to cover the failure of my unicorn farm, which went bankrupt due to the unexpected nonexistence of all of the unicorns. That’s a lot of money, dammit!

Think about all of the future animals that will never be born because of how many we kill with our cars.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:47:00am

re: #83 ericblair

The cops just “intuitively” knew they were decent folks and wouldn’t blow town. I can’t imagine what sort of cop “intuition” led to that sort of conclusion; it’s a mystery, white? Er, right?

The district attorney claimed they were under surveillance at home. If that is true, how did they manage to dodge it? If that is true, it seems like one or more cops let them go. (It’s irresponsible not to speculate.)

And the idea people had they might commit suicide? If they were going to do that, why not just do it at home rather than leading a bunch of cops and federal marshals on a chase through southeast Michigan?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:53:22am

NBC News:

Wisconsin’s Democratic governor vetoes five GOP abortion bills

The five bills either were based on fantasy (reversing medicine-based abortion) or non-existent issues (abortion based on ethnicity, sex, or disability).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:54:16am

re: #85 Belafon

Think about all of the future animals that will never be born because of how many we kill with our cars.

I am a future deer murderer with my Smart.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:54:29am

re: #84 Targetpractice

What’s this “It’s time” business? Everybody knew they were lying as they sat before Congress. If you truly went through those confirmation hearings genuinely believing they were honest about their belief that RvW was “settled law,” then I’ve got some oceanfront property in Nevada I’m selling for cheap.

It was Kabuki. Everyone knew they were being placed on the Court to reverse Roe, but they had to pretend otherwise. There will be no consequences for the Justices.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:56:17am

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m seeing that James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of the kid who shot up his school on Tuesday, are on the lam. Apparently, their vehicle has been found abandoned in Detroit, in the Islandview neighborhood.

Needless to say, Five-O is looking for them and there’s a $10K bounty for information leading to their arrest.

Same money, easier and safer to hunt down abortion whores.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:58:11am

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

No one good to root for here:

It’s a mixed blessing: in districts where there is a contest, then the GOP can be shooting itself in the foot. In safe red districts, they are guaranteeing that we will have even more crayzee and potentially dangerous and even violent representatives.

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BigPapa  Dec 4, 2021 • 2:59:55am

Wow, what a wormhole this is:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:00:45am

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“I miss waking up an hour earlier, dragging myself out into the cold and through rush hour traffic to have the odd chance to spend an hour eating cake and socializing with a lot of people I sort of like but aren’t really my friends or social circle (unless I have no other one)”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:01:41am

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yup. One guy in a business is worth all this money. I’m sure whatever success the business is having had nothing to do with any of its employees beneath him.

“But we need to pay these salaries to attract the best people!”

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:02:44am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The district attorney claimed they were under surveillance at home. If that is true, how did they manage to dodge it? If that is true, it seems like one or more cops let them go. (It’s irresponsible not to speculate.)

And the idea people had they might commit suicide? If they were going to do that, why not just do it at home rather than leading a bunch of cops and federal marshals on a chase through southeast Michigan?

Starting with the bone headed purchase on Black Friday, the Crumbleys made a series of massively stupid decisions that devastated a community and ensured their son will spend decades in prison, and may land them in prison for the rest of their lives as well, something inconceivable to them last week in their cushy, privileged lives. I wonder if they have any other kids, because if so, they are now effectively orphaned. All due to a poisonous white supremacist ideology mainstreamed by the NRA that whites have to prepare for an inevitable race war.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:03:33am

re: #51 ckkatz

Glad to hear that the Crumbley’s have been caught. Apparently thinking through things is not their strong point.

and thinking they will be released on any amount of bail after a stunt like that is also a sign of how they tick…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:04:43am

Spokesliar for Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts, Taylor Gage, had his final day working for the governor yesterday.

Monday he starts work as the head of the Nebraska GOP.

omaha.com

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:07:03am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and thinking they will be released on any amount of bail after a stunt like that is also a sign of how they tick…

Somehow, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:07:05am

re: #63 ericblair

Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova argued on state TV that Georgia and Ukraine shouldn’t be allowed to join NATO, because Moscow does not consider them to be sovereign countries.

This is not a New Cold War, Russia is not trying to implement a worldwide ideology, but they are aiming to restore the Russian Empire in its old form one way or another.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:08:41am

re: #95 No Malarkey!

Starting with the bone headed purchase on Black Friday, the Crumbleys made a series of massively stupid decisions that devastated a community and ensured their son will spend decades in prison, and may land them in prison for the rest of their lives as well, something inconceivable to them last week in their cushy, privileged lives. I wonder if they have any other kids, because if so, they are now effectively orphaned. All due to a poisonous white supremacist ideology mainstreamed by the NRA that whites have to prepare for an inevitable race war.

I recall they do have an adult son, because I saw a quote from him about his brother. I don’t know if they have any other children.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:10:28am

re: #68 ckkatz

Another thought on the cryptocurrency crashes, although I don’t yet have any hard data…

Cryptocurrencies are very useful for money laundering. Iirc, tfg was, and likely still is, involved in money laundering.

I wonder if the Biden Administration is beginning to plug up the regulatory holes created by tfg and his co-conspirators. As well as reimposing and enforcing financial sanctions on tfg’s foreign friends.

China cracked down on them a while back as well

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:15:50am

190K updings! Thank you all again, time for a breather while I claw my way up to 200K and then set up a new base camp in preparation for the ascent to the summit of 250, at which point my task here will be complete and I can go into retirement in stalker mode.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:19:40am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:19:58am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

190K updings! Thank you all again, time for a breather while I claw my way up to 200K and then set up a new base camp in preparation for the ascent to the summit of 250, at which point my task here will be complete and I can go into retirement in stalker mode.

Congradumalashuns!

Does that mean I should bow out because I have 273,128 points, or can I cash them in at the LGF store for a new waffle iron?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:23:56am

re: #103 No Malarkey!

Who the heck is selling those?

I would think any self-respecting Christian would find that offensive as hell.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:24:59am

re: #103 No Malarkey!

Maybe someone should retweet that to @NuclearTakes

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:25:05am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who the heck is selling those?

I would think any self-respecting Christian would find that offensive as hell.

Except for members of the Cult of MAGA

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:25:56am

re: #107 No Malarkey!

Except for members of the Cult of MAGA

Putting the Trump back in Trumpmas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:27:09am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Congradumalashuns!

Does that mean I should bow out because I have 273,128 points, or can I cash them in at the LGF store for a new waffle iron?

you joined after I did and already have me in the dust.

(I ought to be jealous and out to undermine you)

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William Lewis  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:28:13am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who the heck is selling those?

I would think any self-respecting Christian would find that offensive as hell.

They are despicable. Unsurprising, mind, but still despicable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:29:24am

re: #110 William Lewis

They are despicable. Unsurprising, mind, but still despicable.

unless they are meant highly ironically

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:29:55am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:30:06am

re: #103 No Malarkey!

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to discover that a good many of the Trumpites likely believe that Trump is, in fact, the Second Coming of Christ.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:31:14am

re: #113 Dr Lizardo

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to discover that a good many of the Trumpites likely believe that Trump is, in fact, the Second Coming of Christ.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:33:48am

re: #110 William Lewis

They are despicable. Unsurprising, mind, but still despicable.

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William Lewis  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:34:28am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

unless they are meant highly ironically

I suppose in theory that they could be but I’ll stick with Ockham’s razor on this one.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:34:41am

re: #13 William Lewis

I have a daily max on my card of $500. ATM, groceries, whatever. When I bought my Leica I had to have the branch manager approve a one time limit raise to $3000 (more than needed but they prefer that in case I needed to do anything else that day) for that transaction.

They didn’t used to be so accommodating. A number of years ago I was buying a computer. I was in the store trying to check out. Nope. Too much to use a debit card.

I called the bank. Nope. I called the fraud department. Nope. I had to go to the branch, which was like 1000 yards away, and take out $3000 cash to go buy the computer. Suffice it to say that I was pretty unhappy. I’m sure they’ve changed what they do since.

And thanks to everyone who answered my question about the iPhone.i posted it last night and promptly fell asleep. It has been quite a week.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:35:48am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you joined after I did and already have me in the dust.

(I ought to be jealous and out to undermine you)

See back at 10,000, I got the sekrit automated upfist bot.

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ericblair  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:40:21am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is not a New Cold War, Russia is not trying to implement a worldwide ideology, but they are aiming to restore the Russian Empire in its old form one way or another.

I guess you’d have to decide whether a cold war has to be ideological or not, and how ideological the later-era Soviet Union was. Lenin’s USSR was definitely ideological and committed to international communism, but by the end of Stalin’s rule it sure looked like good old Russian imperialism with a red coat of paint. The ideology made it an easier sell abroad, though, rather than the current naked authoritarian kleptocracy.

It was amusing to watch the non-celebration of the October Revolution in 2018. Because of the needs of the various internal power factions, the revolution was both the great victory of the working class and birth of the Soviet Union (to Communists and old folks), but also a huge disaster and a crime (to the Orthodox Church and raving monarchists), as well as the grand-daddy of all Color Revolutions which of course are very very bad (the government).

Usually the Kremlin can just say whatever they needed to say to whatever audience was there, but for the hundredth anniversary they couldn’t square the circle for the whole population, so it turned into the ceremonial equivalent of an embarrassed throat-clearing before getting back to fetishizing the Second World War.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:53:31am

re: #113 Dr Lizardo

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to discover that a good many of the Trumpites likely believe that Trump is, in fact, the Second Coming of Christ.

They believe that he has endured suffering worse than anyone since Jesus Christ.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:59:21am

Speculating irresponsibly on the plumber who found scads of money stashed in a wall in Joel Olsteen’s church:

Several people have commented that some person might have been skimming when counting the collection plate, and wondering why there were so many cheques, when a cheque (especially one with an expired date) would be tough to cash.

Joel Olsteen reported some time ago there was a robbery from the church office safe in March of 2014, about $200,000 in cash, and $400,000 in cheques. The cash was never recovered.

So what if the robber was actually Joel Olsteen? I imagine there aren’t many people who have the combination to that safe, and it was not reported as forced open. Then the money was stashed behind the wall, and just found by a random plumber working in the church.

122
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 4, 2021 • 3:59:58am

re: #119 ericblair

Usually the Kremlin can just say whatever they needed to say to whatever audience was there, but for the hundredth anniversary they couldn’t square the circle for the whole population, so it turned into the ceremonial equivalent of an embarrassed throat-clearing before getting back to fetishizing the Second World War.

I wouldn’t call it fetishizing the Second World War, but there is a lot of historical equivocating going on.

The Romanov Dynasty was corrupt, inept, inbred and ultimately a disaster for the Russian people. There was no way to remove them without a massive, violent upheaval. History has seen this pattern over and over again.

And on the one hand, WW2 was primarily a war between the Red and the Brown Dictators, The Eastern Front made up the major and most decisive theater of operations. Stalin and Hitler were both inhumane barbarian bastards.

On the other hand, the people of the USSR endured unparalleled suffering and offered up heroic sacrifices to maintain their independence (although not necessarily their freedom) that are worthy of recognition.

Keep in mind that anybody born in Germany after 1915 was not an adult when the National Socialists came to power and cannot be taken fully to task for their actions, in a sense, they are also victims of fascism.

These are all historical nuances (like the distinction between independence and freedom) that are hard to package in a slogan or a parade banner.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:04:20am

Christian adoption agency sues Biden admin to keep kids out of loving gay homes (LGBTQ Nation, December 3, 2021)

Ya take federal money, ya follow federal law. On the other hand, I imagine Amy Bony Carrot would have no trouble squaring the United Methodist position with her statements in court that women should just give up children for adoption rather than abort, because lots of loving people want babeez.

A foster agency in Tennessee is suing the Biden administration, saying that its religious freedom is being violated because they don’t want to place children with LGBTQ parents.

The Holston United Methodist Home for Children filed a lawsuit yesterday in federal court against the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), alleging that the Department’s rules that ban discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in foster programs that get federal money violates their rights.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:13:26am

Anti-LGBT+ is on the march in every state

Minnesota principal ousted over LGBT flag controversy, lawsuit claims (Park Rapid, Minn. Enterprise, December 1, 2021)

According to the lawsuit, a small group of “anti-LGBTQ middle-school staff, parents, students, and local clergy” pressured the school to remove the flag, which is a symbol of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender pride. In response to the push to remove the flag, Thomas began distributing rainbow stickers at the school.

The school eventually removed the flag in August 2021, after Thomas was forced from her position, the complaint said. She had been principal for 16 years.

Thomas claims the Marshall School District targeted her with an investigation, placed her on administrative leave, suspended her without pay and eventually drove her to quit after the district removed her as principal and placed her in a “demeaning” special projects position. She also claims school staff hostile to LGBT causes played a role in her removal and that Marshall Public Schools Superintendent Jeremy Williams told her he could “make this all go away” if she stepped down.

(more)

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steve_davis  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:19:19am

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

Looks like they were hiding out in what seems to be an abandoned warehouse:

Pro tip: get a car cover. Then you can hide your vehicle in plain sight.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:31:58am

re: #125 steve_davis

Pro tip: get a car cover. Then you can hide your vehicle in plain sight.

These two never imagined that they would become fugitives from the law. After all, they are good white republicans.

127
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:32:01am

re: #63 ericblair

This is the heart of everything Russia does or says about either country (and Belarus, when and if it comes to that). For the Kremlin, they’re not real countries with sovereignty and independence; they’re errant livestock that have been temporarily detached from Russian control, and need to be returned by the West to their proper owners.

But the United States is the imperialist, see.

Has Russia asked the UN to pass and help enforce the Fugitive State Laws yet?

128
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:34:34am

re: #66 ckkatz

From Nov 16, 2021:

Hundreds Of Billions Lost As Major Cryptocurrencies—Including Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, Cardano—Tumble In Crypto Crash

forbes.com

I wonder if that last surge was one final pump and dump by some who decided they were going to bail while they could and before the façade fell down in the face of further scrutiny and probable government regulation and oversight.

129
steve_davis  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:35:42am

re: #81 No Malarkey!

For those interested, the longest game in world chess championship history was played, resulting in the first win in a championship chess match in years. fivethirtyeight.com

Yep. Watched it until I was fairly confident it was a draw, then came back to find Judit Polgar (best woman player of all time) talking about how Ian had let his position come slightly unglued and was fighting for his life.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:36:58am

5:38 AM … off to bed.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:40:11am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The district attorney claimed they were under surveillance at home. If that is true, how did they manage to dodge it? If that is true, it seems like one or more cops let them go. (It’s irresponsible not to speculate.)

And the idea people had they might commit suicide? If they were going to do that, why not just do it at home rather than leading a bunch of cops and federal marshals on a chase through southeast Michigan?

That they fled makes me really wonder about the little murderer’s upbringing. That his parents were willing to simply cut and run when *they* came under direct scrutiny and being charged begs the question of what sort of responsibility they hold for things beyond their own particular ambitions and how much of that attitude was passed to the son.

In addition, I wonder if the son was brought up in an uncaring home and treated as a liability that was limiting his parents. Which led probably to child raising by throwing toys and distractions in his general direction as long - which cumulated in a gun.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:44:00am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I miss waking up an hour earlier, dragging myself out into the cold and through rush hour traffic to have the odd chance to spend an hour eating cake and socializing with a lot of people I sort of like but aren’t really my friends or social circle (unless I have no other one)”

Something I never said to myself once I was laid off and eventually decided to sort of retire out of the IT field. (Since I could financially afford to do so.)

I do miss some of the people. I don’t miss the commute. Or the daily work grind. Or the corporate BS. If I want coding/IT stuff to do I can do script work and such on the side to fulfill my “solve puzzles” desire.

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steve_davis  Dec 4, 2021 • 4:49:11am

re: #117 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They didn’t used to be so accommodating. A number of years ago I was buying a computer. I was in the store trying to check out. Nope. Too much to use a debit card.

I called the bank. Nope. I called the fraud department. Nope. I had to go to the branch, which was like 1000 yards away, and take out $3000 cash to go buy the computer. Suffice it to say that I was pretty unhappy. I’m sure they’ve changed what they do since.

And thanks to everyone who answered my question about the iPhone.i posted it last night and promptly fell asleep. It has been quite a week.

I have a limit on my card of 40 bucks. If I try to get more than that, the machine spits my card back out at me. Hours later I’ll get a text message indicating someone was trying to take more money out of my account than is typical, but if it was me, I can go ahead with the transaction. Yes, thank you, I’ve been sitting in the atm drive through all this time waiting for that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 4, 2021 • 5:01:59am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Speculating irresponsibly on the plumber who found scads of money stashed in a wall in Joel Olsteen’s church:

Several people have commented that some person might have been skimming when counting the collection plate, and wondering why there were so many cheques, when a cheque (especially one with an expired date) would be tough to cash.

Joel Olsteen reported some time ago there was a robbery from the church office safe in March of 2014, about $200,000 in cash, and $400,000 in cheques. The cash was never recovered.

So what if the robber was actually Joel Olsteen? I imagine there aren’t many people who have the combination to that safe, and it was not reported as forced open. Then the money was stashed behind the wall, and just found by a random plumber working in the church.

Was there an insurance claim?

That said, I’m not imagining ol’ Joel willingly sitting on a bunch of money. You can’t spend what’s in the wall.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 5:10:59am

re: #133 steve_davis

I have a limit on my card of 40 bucks. If I try to get more than that, the machine spits my card back out at me. Hours later I’ll get a text message indicating someone was trying to take more money out of my account than is typical, but if it was me, I can go ahead with the transaction. Yes, thank you, I’ve been sitting in the atm drive through all this time waiting for that.

$40? That is incredibly low.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 4, 2021 • 5:11:26am

re: #134 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was there an insurance claim?

That said, I’m not imagining ol’ Joel willingly sitting on a bunch of money. You can’t spend what’s in the wall.

I bet there was.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Dec 4, 2021 • 6:56:25am

re: #80 jeffreyw

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